Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone

The Sukhoi company in 2018 will present the first model of an 20 tons unmanned percussion unmanned aerial vehicle, and a five-ton UAV will be created by Sokol already at the turn of 2015-2016, a high-ranking source in the Russian defense industry has said.

“The readiness of the first sample of a drone drone with a mass of 20 tons, on which Sukhoi is working, is scheduled for 2018 year. According to our calculations, the five-ton machine, on which the Falcon is working, should appear "in hardware" at the turn of 2015 - 2016, "said RIA"News»A source in the defense industry.

Earlier, Mikhail Pogosyan, President of the United Aircraft Building Corporation (UAC), reported that Russia is developing an unmanned aerial vehicle of attack weight of about 20 tons based on technical solutions of the fifth-generation fighter T-50.

It should be noted that in September, the head of the Ministry of Defense Sergei Shoigu demanded that the developers of drone unmanned aerial vehicles speed up the work.

The creation of strike UAVs in our country by order of the Ministry of Defense is carried out by the companies Sukhoi, Transas from St. Petersburg and the Kazan experimental design bureau, Sokol. The last two in October 2011 won the tender for the creation of two types drones, weighing about a ton and about five tons.

In 2011, according to a leading expert in unmanned aviationDenis Fedutinov, editor-in-chief of the specialized Internet portal Unmanned Aviation, the Sukhoi company received a contract for the development of a heavy shock drone with take-off weight of up to 20 tons.

Comments

[andrei332809]

Well, we'll wait.
wee-wee ... today in 1957 the first artificial satellite of the earth was launched. and made it the USSR. with a holiday!

[Orel]

Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone

Tired of promises and slogans! When they are presented in hardware, then we will be proud, but for now it’s blah-blah-blah ... By 2018, anything can happen, as the saying goes, "maybe the donkey will already die." Who will then remember what they promised in 2013 ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Orel

Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone

In the picture Mig for some reason.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: Orel

Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone

In the picture Mig for some reason.

Poghosyan overlooked ...

[Airman]

[quote = Geisenberg]
In the picture Mig for some reason. [/ Quote]

Poghosyan overlooked ... [/ quote]
Or the development was communized by MiG.

[VAF]

Quote: Povshnik

Poghosyan overlooked

Just the opposite ... EVERYTHING PROVIDED don't be great and first after god

Why "reinvent the wheel" when there is already a practically finished project and layout ... to finalize.,. Attach your label and that's it .... Poghosyan is on horseback again

Well, these are my thoughts, but now .. "semi-official", so that there would be no "talk" about .. "all pro-salipolymers". well, etc.

According to Mikhail Poghosyan's statement in August 2009, the design of a new attack unmanned complex was supposed to be the first joint work of the respective divisions of the Sukhoi Design Bureau and MiG (Skat project).

The media reported on the conclusion of a contract for the implementation of R&D "Okhotnik" with the company "Sukhoi" on July 12, 2011

In August 2011, the merger of the respective divisions of RSK MiG and Sukhoi to develop a promising strike UAV was confirmed in the media, but the official agreement between MiG and Sukhoi was signed only on October 25, 2012.

The technical specifications for the shock UAV were approved by the Russian Ministry of Defense in the first days of April 2012.

On July 6, 2012, the media reported that the Sukhoi company had been selected by the Russian Air Force as the lead developer.


What was required ... to prove

We are waiting for messages that the great Misha has "grabbed" for himself and the sixth generation

[leon-iv]

We are waiting for messages that the great Misha has "grabbed" for himself and the sixth generation

You can love Uncle Pogo, you can not love, but you won’t be denied organizational skills and negotiation skills (including bringing the right people both here and abroad). And also sell aircraft.

[VAF]

Quote: leon-iv

but he will not be denied organizational skills and negotiation skills

Well, you can say so +! ... but only in skills ... "razvodilova" (the wisest of the Armenians bred ..... P..syan -aviation joke in our circles ).

Well, or as in a joke .... who, who .. you look who has a "roof"

[klimpopov]

In fact, this state of affairs saddens. And with MIG in particular and with the aircraft industry in general. The priority is "cabbage", "loot", national interests do not bother anyone.

the wisest of Armenians bred ..... P..syan

yes in fact they are all "smart".
Although Mikoyan was also an Armenian? So that...
Hi Seryozha!

[military]

Quote: vaf

We are waiting for messages that the great Misha has "grabbed" for himself and the sixth generation

however ... under this tune it is quite possible to quietly bury the fifth ... if some jambs are trampled ... as "unclaimed by time and has lost its relevance" ... shrugging his shoulders and shrugging his shoulders ... like, we got a bit, underestimated priorities ... It happens to everyone...

[Gari]

Quote: Ingvar 72

In the picture Mig for some reason.

It’s also interesting why the MiG.
Maybe the MiG already has such a drone, at least at the design stage.
Nobody forbids us to dream.

[Gari]

But seriously, Sukhoi must do what he has been doing all his glorious history to create the best combat aircraft the best in the world.
not this assembled obscure constructor.
Good day to all

[denson06]

Because this is a slightly different creation - "Scat".

[velikoros-xnumx]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: Orel
Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone

In the picture Mig for some reason. no

Hmm, "Sukhoi" again, with all due respect to its products, this is wrong

[VAF]

Quote: Ingvar 72

In the picture Mig for some reason.

Probably because RSK MiG in this competition .. "flew" by with its UAV, and the competition was won by OKB Sokol, with its ... Altius-M

[Botanologist]

Quote: vaf

OKB Sokol won the competition with its ... Altius-M

Greetings, dear!
In my opinion, UAVs of various types are a great benefit. In any case, some next small mess will quickly show what works and what flies at exhibitions.
But my question is - is anyone developing weapons for these UAVs? Or again NURSY hang

[Airman]

[quote = Orel] [quote] “Dry” in 2018 will present a 20-ton impact drone [/ quote]

The Americans, either from the F-16, or from the F-15 made a drone, (no time to look). Poghosyan felt himself Caesar, and using Caesarean section he decided to make a drone out of the T-50.

[coast]

a moment and dry work in place, alone a moment can’t cope at the moment, in the photo the slope on the max layout was presented I don’t remember which

[Botanologist]

Quote: Orel

By 2018, anything can happen, as they say, "maybe the donkey will already die." Who will then remember what they promised in 2013 ...

If you don’t think today what will happen in the 2018 year, then nothing will happen in the 2018 year.

[ZVladimir222]

- Well, actually it’s not worth anything new for the general public to imagine how it has always been customary with us: we didn’t have time to take the aircraft into service — rather show off to the parade, show foreign guests. And they look and kumeke: "Yeah, here are the wings are trapezoidal, but two keels. Understandably! And we have been racking our brains for years!"

[Kibalchish]

Wait ... I've been waiting for "Scat" since 2007. Then there was even a full-size layout.

They lie again.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Kibalchish

They lie again.

all these developments from the category of secret, we won’t know anything until we decide to show them and tell everything

[GREAT RUSSIA]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Kibalchish

They lie again.

all these developments from the category of secret, we won’t know anything until we decide to show them and tell everything

That's right, I agree. So it was with the T-50 PAK FA, there were leaks and talk about a 5th generation aircraft, but everyone really knew when the state already showed the plane. So with these developments it will be the same.

[DuraLexSedLex.]

Skat is, in my opinion, the development of a MiG. You will not believe BUT HE CAN SHOOT. Really not sarcasm, there is fire control, thrust and so on for a long time in the gland, sales say the tests passed, the radar is not bad either But the jamb is a big PPC - there are no "brains". This is me about the electronic stuffing of management, there is trouble with it. Here is where and where and here the industry lags on the face (((((Own processors, proper level, we can’t do it yet.

[little man]

Yeah. It seems that we will never see a UAV. They have been pulling the cat for eggs for a year now. Some promises.

[Warrawar]

Mig just had a layout. A working drone was not even close. Just a copy for exhibitions.

[Civil]

5 years .... it's a failure ...

[Vadivak]

Quote: Civil

5 years .... it's a failure ...

It depends on what you compare it to. Nelson's flagship Victory took six years to build. And in Britain there was an abundance of carpenters of appropriate qualifications.

[Mister X]

already at the turn of 2015-2016's
five-ton UAV will be created by the company "Sokol"

In 3 weeks, the 2017 year will come.
The information is clearly outdated.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: andrei332809

Well, we'll wait.
wee-wee ... today in 1957 the first artificial satellite of the earth was launched. and made it the USSR. with a holiday!

Thank you for reminding you of the holiday!
I would resume the release of the Soviet tear-off calendar, in which every day was a significant date for the achievements of the USSR. At least the youth taught the history of the former country on it, because you won’t find such a thing in textbooks. Yes, and the current authorities mute reproach on how to raise the country's GDP).

[Andrey Yuryevich]

I have no doubt that they are also working on it at Miga, but Pagosyan took the place of a favorite at the court of their majesty ...

[bask]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

I have no doubt that they are also working on it at Mig, but Pagosyan took the place of a favorite at the court

The MIG prototype (model) of the UAV ,, Scat ,, was created 10 years ago.
And Poghosyan took the place of the main sawmill of the camp.
The budget allocated to the aircraft industry.

[andrei332809]

Quote: bask

Poghosyan took the place of the main sawmill

Hi, Andryukh. Do not give in to the provocation of minusers. I, of course, alone can’t cope with them, but as far as I can, I will remove as many sleepers

[evil hamster]

From mock-ups to flight prototypes, there is a "huge distance" (c) - and this is if there is funding. And to the main sawfly of the country, Uncle Pogo, like cancer to the moon. I think so, he will not fit into the first hundred, more worthy candidates from other branches of the people. farms are very much.

[Rodriques]

Poghosyan thief still that

[afire]

were you standing straight with candles and shining for him when he counted the stolen money?
adults, and say such crap!

[xmypp]

Overcome vague doubts. With our bureaucrats and lovers promise.

[King]

2018 - isn't it a shame !?

[Delink]

In Russia, it is never too late. The main thing to voice, and there along the way it will be seen. We all hope for a chance. And there you can put a little in your pocket. Maybe a ride.

[Basileus]

Better late than never, right? But a 20-ton drummer - they waved, of course.

[vladsolo56]

In creating drones today, first of all, it is necessary to create software for autonomous flight and task execution. To create the design of the aircraft there are plenty of achievements, but there is practically no software, as I understand it, and here we need to force the work.

[a52333]

Yeah, but all specialists!

software must be created first

And it should fly over foreign territory via Glonass, and not by GPS. We just covered our territory.

[Mhpv]

Quote: a52333

And it should fly over foreign territory via Glonass, and not by GPS.

This is also important because GPS is, first of all, for the US Army and, as they say, Americans can easily move the coordinate grid and that's it,

[evil hamster]

Glonas covers the entire globe, and for a long time

[Metlik]

Quote: vladsolo56

software must be created first

Russian programmers are some of the best in the world. It is a pity that they live in the USA.

[Far East]

Quote: vladsolo56

autonomous flight and mission software.

I don’t think it is necessary to drown our electronic engineers so much! unmanned flight has already blown it BURAN operating time remained. and microchips are still doing. Recently a star showed our plant where they grow crystals (nano) and make microcircuits! not in such a call., as we want, but still sho that is.

[mirag2]

The picture is beautiful ... Yes, something is not very hard to believe.
I always, when I say that "they will not create", that "will not be", that "Armata" is old, I always hope deep in my soul, that they will "create" and "will be", and "Armata" will be something breakthrough ...
So you want to make a mistake ...

[Humpty]

In futurum, you can say anything.

[Blad_21617]

in modern Russia the word tender scares ... everything is done only through it! how good it was in the Union that all design bureaus capable of building a prototype presented their developments and the state commission chose the best ... and now whoever rolls the dough how much and won and what after that no one knows to build and then they take 10 years each.

[Rus_87]

Again this ubiquitous Poghosyan ... got it already! What, besides Sukhoi, there are no more design bureaus in the country? I won’t be surprised if in a couple of years Sukhoi will start riveting tanks with submarines ...

[Rash]

Quote: vladsolo56

In creating drones today, first of all, it is necessary to create software for autonomous flight and task execution. To create the design of the aircraft there are plenty of achievements, but there is practically no software, as I understand it, and here we need to force the work.

In essence, it is necessary to create a FII (artificial intelligence system), where the components will be:
. The module of electronic cards with reference to 3D space.
. The module of location in space and in real time using external sensors (cameras, sensors, gyroscopes).
. Autopilot module (takeoff, landing, heading, point).
. Module of preparation and calculation of shooting.
. Combat mission module (route, combat radius of anchor point, attack objects)
. And much more.

[major071]

All this has already been developed in the USSR during the creation of Buran. Experience should be. Of course, technology stepped forward, even jumped forward, but the backlog still remained. Everything new is well forgotten old.

[Botanologist]

Quote: major071

All this has already been developed in the USSR when Buran was created.

All this has even been used in the USSR on UAVs such as Swift, Flight and Wing.

[vladsolo56]

What does the word module mean? is that separate computer units? or I misunderstood

[mirag2]

These are separate tasks, which, due to their complexity, will probably short circuit their processors.

[taseka]

In years through 10, everyone will fight with joysticks from the bunker, including soldiers! And captivity is a server shutdown!

[Chicot 1]

They talk about the "Sukhoi", and the picture shows the alleged type of the strike UAV "Skat". And he is a product from "MiG" ... However, disorder. However, this is not important (although, it will come to him). The main thing is what is written under this picture ...

And here we meet our old friend - Mikhail Poghosyan. He is famous for the fact that he "rules" the design bureau them. Sukhoi, is the "dad" of the most, most, most innovative in the history of our aircraft industry of the airliner with the name of the overseas "Super-Jet-100", and for some reason (for such feats and deeds? !!) The Italian Republic "...
And this old friend is broadcasting to the whole world, white, that "Sukhoi" is ready to hand over "to the mountain" shock UAV ...
Allow me - I would like to ask, where is Mikoyan's "Skat", the development of which was already announced at such a decent time that not many will remember the exact dates ...
But it turns out that we will have to say goodbye to the Skat from the MiG. Such a tendency has recently begun to manifest itself - where Poghosyan appeared with his brainchild, there everyone's analogs suddenly die ... The example of the "SSD-100" and Tu-334 is quite indicative in this regard ... I have no doubt that now Quietly, a PR campaign will begin, the purpose of which will be to mix Skat and KB MiG with dirt. Just as it happened with the Tupolevites and their "334th" car in due time ... And now it will be even easier to do it. By that time, the Tu-334 had already flown, but the Skat had not ...

In Soviet times, we were taught that the production and marketing of a product under capitalism takes place in conditions of fierce competition. Now I see that under capitalism, goods are promoted in the conditions of cuts and kickbacks ... Or is it an exclusively Russian model? ..

[sharingan]

Quote: Chicot 1

About exclusively Russian model? ..

Of course not. I think that American Pentagon officials are sawing more of our crooks on Boeing and Lockheed, only they call it cultural - lobbying.

[Chicot 1]

Quote: Sharingan

I think American Pentagon officials are sawing more of our crooks on Boeing and Lockheed, but they call it culturally - lobbying

In general, I have no doubt. Only (as a rule) in the final of any of the tenders do they have at least two candidates ...

[MilaPhone]

Quote: Chicot 1

They talk about the "Sukhoi", and the picture shows the alleged type of the strike UAV "Skat". And he is a product from "MiG" ... However, disorder. However, this is not important (although, it will come to him). The main thing is what is written under this picture ...

In the original article to which this one refers (see the source in the epilogue) there is no photo of "Skat" of KB "Mikoyan", but the following photo is present, (apparently unmanned AWACS ):
So. what .....

[darksoul]

In appearance it resembles foreign analogues. Well done, you should go along the Chinese path especially in those areas where you are hopelessly behind, skomunizdili ..... collected, improved ... pulled up the technology, and then yourself

[AlNick]

Another PR project.
Shoigu demands, Poghosyan said to eat.
And away we go ... over the bumps. Another Super Jet, but now assembled from different pieces on the basis of the T-50.
All that has been done on the Su-27 platform is a merit of the General Designer of the Design Bureau M.V. Simonova.
And that Poghosyan is the main thing ahead of everyone on a dashing horse for budget money, pushing elbows off competitors. They didn’t really bring the Super Jet, they grabbed onto the MS-21, now a drone.
Develop for your loot, and if successful, then add the budget.
May be..?

[evil hamster]

Quote: AlNick

And away we go ... over the bumps. Another Super Jet, but now assembled from different pieces on the basis of the T-50.

Like it's something bad? Unification? - no, have not heard.

Quote: AlNick

All that has been done on the Su-27 platform is a merit of the General Designer of the Design Bureau M.V. Simonova.

Yes, only a couple of points: the T50 is not based on the T10. Poghosyan, unlike some other citizens, didn’t bleed his native design bureau, did not sell the territory for offices, did not build Sukhoyplaz, etc., but continued to earn money building aircraft.

Quote: AlNick

They didn’t really bring the Super Jet, they grabbed onto the MS-21, now a drone.

Firstly, Surzh is brought in, secondly, a separate organization of the GSS is engaged in it, thirdly, ask Yandex what MS21 is and with what side Uncle Pogo is to him, I give hints: Fedorov, Irkut, Yakovlev Design Bureau - let the light of truth be revealed to you. in the latter, that this is interestingly preventing Sukhoi Design Bureau from doing drone?

[saag]

and where is the radar?

[DuraLexSedLex.]

The people in the picture near the air intake read the MiG logo !!! Author pick a different picture))))

[Prapor-527]

There are no others. Maybe like this. The essence does not change, the concept is one. X-47B codenamed Salty Dog 501 (usa)

[air wolf]

And what is the problem of converting old drones into a shock version? I myself saw how they fly. All this has been in the USSR since the 70s

[Botanologist]

Quote: air wolf

And what is the problem of converting old drones into a shock version? I myself saw how they fly.

Which ones? Swift walked like a scout with a clear pre-flight mission. Carried AKFU-2A or AFS - non-weak such rolls of film came out after the flight. The wing and flight carried the already advanced cameras and location. The only thing they can be redone for is to put warheads and shoot like a cruise missile. Actually, warheads were included in the kit, and this was provided for in the design (I don’t know about the Wing, but Swift and Flight, for sure).

[APASUS]

Pogasyan is now the new Khrushchev from aviation.
He sowed corn in the north, and this one will crush the entire aircraft industry.
In my opinion, he’s having too much power, it's time to besiege a little

[iwind]

Anyway, it’s good that they took it. Of course very it’s bad that you put all the eggs in the basket (dry).
If only they were not empty promises. Both MO and Sukhoi will turn to face the people, and they won’t keep everything secret, but they will take an example from the Northrop Grumman X-47B, when all the stages of development are visible to people.

[GREAT RUSSIA]

Good news, pleased. All the same, we must catch up.

[Xroft]

So far, nothing is heard about the t-50. They showed it at the MAKS without much fanfare ... as a prototype, no one knows the characteristics of its real ones, although after 2 years it should go into the series ... in the West, they also do not write much about it. And here in 2018 some drones .....

[Chicot 1]

Ivan, on the pages of the site it is considered bad manners to voice anything bad about the T-50 and the "fifth generation" (although the same American "f-two-two" are firing on what the world is worth, and deservedly so) ... cons ...
And you from me "+". For writing what you think is necessary ...

[Ivan_Ivanov]

Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone

Is this good news? No doubt good.
Will they create a drone? Most likely they will. Maybe at the wrong time and not Su alone ...

We will not be able to create in one case if our enemy once again ruins our country.

And what do we see in the comments?
- another cut!
- Pogosyan thief!
- Again deceived!
- Another PR!
- Empty promises!
- Provide us ready-made on a dish, then we will believe.

... I have no words.

[Yars]

Quote: vaf

Quote: Povshnik

Poghosyan overlooked

Just the opposite ... EVERYTHING PROVIDED don't be great and first after god

Why "reinvent the wheel" when there is already a practically finished project and layout ... to finalize.,. Attach your label and that's it .... Poghosyan is on horseback again


Well, these are my thoughts, but now .. "semi-official", so that there would be no "talk" about .. "all pro-salipolymers". well, etc.

According to Mikhail Poghosyan's statement in August 2009, the design of a new attack unmanned complex was supposed to be the first joint work of the respective divisions of the Sukhoi Design Bureau and MiG (Skat project).

The media reported on the conclusion of a contract for the implementation of R&D "Okhotnik" with the company "Sukhoi" on July 12, 2011

In August 2011, the merger of the respective divisions of RSK MiG and Sukhoi to develop a promising strike UAV was confirmed in the media, but the official agreement between MiG and Sukhoi was signed only on October 25, 2012.

The terms of reference for an attack UAV was approved by the Russian Ministry of Defense on the first days of April 2012.

On July 6, 2012, the media reported that the Sukhoi company had been selected by the Russian Air Force as the lead developer.


What was required ... to prove

We are waiting for messages that the great Misha has "grabbed" for himself and the sixth generation

excuse me, are you crawling here? !

[CKORPII]

only hait can and in fact tell you nothing for not leading divodavods

[Lestat]

News from the past - what does it mean "will be at the turn of 15-16 years"? Already, as it should have been ...

[family tree]

Nafig picture
I will not allow to offend pregnant women, but a pregnant aircraft, Danauna, nafig never a predator, even pregnant, damn, in the course of someone f-35s with a thick fuselage does not give rest.
This, in the aggressor, everything should be fine, because, the ugly will not fly. Will stay in the air, but no fly

[iliya87]

I just want to say "It's high time ... have you been so long?"

[General Charnotha]

in the picture for some reason a moment is drawn on board and where does it dry ??

[General Charnotha]

in the picture a moment they write about dry

[CKORPII]

the people are you whining and whining and? Yes, not all at once, but done not so fast as we would like. The main priorities in general, and most importantly in particular

[Ben84]

And why in the photo of the device with the Mig symbolism ???

[saturn.mmm]

and a five-ton UAV will be created by Sokol at the turn of 2015-2016, a senior source in the Russian military-industrial complex (MIC) said.

Can someone tell a high-ranking source that the yard is already 2018.

[Livonetc]

Quote: saturn.mmm

and a five-ton UAV will be created by Sokol at the turn of 2015-2016, a senior source in the Russian military-industrial complex (MIC) said.

Can someone tell a high-ranking source that the yard is already 2018.

The wording is dumb.
We do not like transfers.
Therefore, no one transmits.
And happiness was so possible.

[Seal]

Quote: saturn.mmm

Can someone tell a high-ranking source that the yard is already 2018.

The article “Dry” in 2018 will present a 20-ton strike drone posted on October 4 2013 year.