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Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone

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Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone



The Sukhoi company in 2018 will present the first model of an 20 tons unmanned percussion unmanned aerial vehicle, and a five-ton UAV will be created by Sokol already at the turn of 2015-2016, a high-ranking source in the Russian defense industry has said.

“The readiness of the first sample of a drone drone with a mass of 20 tons, on which Sukhoi is working, is scheduled for 2018 year. According to our calculations, the five-ton machine, on which the Falcon is working, should appear "in hardware" at the turn of 2015 - 2016, "said RIA"News»A source in the defense industry.

Earlier, Mikhail Pogosyan, President of the United Aircraft Building Corporation (UAC), reported that Russia is developing an unmanned aerial vehicle of attack weight of about 20 tons based on technical solutions of the fifth-generation fighter T-50.

It should be noted that in September, the head of the Ministry of Defense Sergei Shoigu demanded that the developers of drone unmanned aerial vehicles speed up the work.

The creation of the drone drone in our country by order of the Ministry of Defense involved in the company "Sukhoi", "Transas" from St. Petersburg and Kazan experimental design bureau, "Sokol". The last two 2011s in October won a tender to create two types of UAVs, weighing about a ton and about five tons.

In 2011, according to a leading expert in unmanned aviationDenis Fedutinov, editor-in-chief of the specialized Internet portal Unmanned Aviation, the Sukhoi company received a contract for the development of a heavy shock drone with take-off weight of up to 20 tons.
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 4 October 2013 06: 13 New
    40
    Well, we'll wait.
    wee-wee ... today in 1957 the first artificial satellite of the earth was launched. and made it the USSR. with a holiday!
    1. Orel
      Orel 4 October 2013 07: 03 New
      15
      Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone


      Tired of promises and slogans! When they are presented in hardware, then we will be proud, but for now it’s blah-blah-blah ... By 2018, anything can happen, as the saying goes, "maybe the donkey will already die." Who will then remember what they promised in 2013 ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 4 October 2013 09: 23 New
        10
        Quote: Orel
        Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone

        In the picture Mig for some reason. No.
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 4 October 2013 09: 27 New
          +7
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: Orel
          Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone

          In the picture Mig for some reason. No.


          Poghosyan overlooked ...
          1. Airman
            Airman 4 October 2013 10: 24 New
            +3
            [quote = Geisenberg]
            In the picture Mig for some reason. No.[/ Quote]

            Poghosyan overlooked ... [/ quote]
            Or the development was communized by MiG.
            1. VAF
              VAF 4 October 2013 13: 24 New
              +7
              Quote: Povshnik
              Poghosyan overlooked


              Just the opposite ... EVERYTHING PROVIDED wink don't be great and first after god wassat

              Why "reinvent the wheel" when there is already a practically finished project and layout ... to finalize.,. Attach your label and that's it .... Poghosyan is on horseback again wassat



              Well, these are my thoughts, but now .. "semi-official", so that there would be no "talk" about .. "all pro-salipolymers". well, etc.

              According to Mikhail Poghosyan's statement in August 2009, the design of a new attack unmanned complex was supposed to be the first joint work of the respective divisions of the Sukhoi Design Bureau and MiG (Skat project). wassat

              The media reported on the conclusion of a contract for the implementation of R&D "Okhotnik" with the company "Sukhoi" on July 12, 2011

              In August 2011, the merger of the respective divisions of RSK MiG and Sukhoi to develop a promising strike UAV was confirmed in the media, wink but the official agreement between MiG and Sukhoi was signed only on October 25, 2012. soldier

              The technical specifications for the shock UAV were approved by the Russian Ministry of Defense in the first days of April 2012. good

              On July 6, 2012, the media reported that the Sukhoi company had been selected by the Russian Air Force as the lead developer.
              fellow wink lol

              What was required ... to prove wink

              We are waiting for messages that the great Misha has "grabbed" for himself and the sixth generation wassat
              1. leon-iv
                leon-iv 4 October 2013 13: 27 New
                +6
                We are waiting for messages that the great Misha has "grabbed" for himself and the sixth generation

                You can love Uncle Pogo, you can not love, but you won’t be denied organizational skills and negotiation skills (including bringing the right people both here and abroad). And also sell aircraft.
                1. VAF
                  VAF 4 October 2013 13: 37 New
                  +3
                  Quote: leon-iv
                  but he will not be denied organizational skills and negotiation skills


                  Well, you can say so +! lol ... but only in skills ... "razvodilova" wink (the wisest of the Armenians bred ..... P..syan wassat -aviation joke in our circles lol ).

                  Well, or as in a joke .... who, who .. you look who has a "roof" wassat

                  1. klimpopov
                    klimpopov 4 October 2013 15: 03 New
                    +1
                    In fact, this state of affairs saddens. And with MIG in particular and with the aircraft industry in general. The priority is "cabbage", "loot", national interests do not bother anyone.
                    the wisest of Armenians bred ..... P..syan

                    yes in fact they are all "smart".
                    Although Mikoyan was also an Armenian? So that...
                    Hi Seryozha!
              2. military
                military 4 October 2013 14: 55 New
                0
                Quote: vaf
                We are waiting for messages that the great Misha has "grabbed" for himself and the sixth generation

                however ... under this tune it is quite possible to quietly bury the fifth ... if some jambs are trampled ... as "unclaimed by time and has lost its relevance" ... shrugging his shoulders and shrugging his shoulders ... like, we got a bit, underestimated priorities ... It happens to everyone... wink
        2. Gari
          Gari 4 October 2013 09: 52 New
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          In the picture Mig for some reason.

          It’s also interesting why the MiG.
          Maybe the MiG already has such a drone, at least at the design stage.
          Nobody forbids us to dream.
          1. Gari
            Gari 4 October 2013 10: 00 New
            +2
            But seriously, Sukhoi must do what he has been doing all his glorious history to create the best combat aircraft the best in the world.
            not this assembled obscure constructor.
            Good day to all
        3. denson06
          denson06 4 October 2013 10: 38 New
          0
          Because this is a slightly different creation - "Scat".
        4. velikoros-xnumx
          velikoros-xnumx 4 October 2013 12: 56 New
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: Orel
          Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone

          In the picture Mig for some reason. no

          Hmm, "Sukhoi" again, with all due respect to its products, this is wrong angry
        5. VAF
          VAF 4 October 2013 13: 12 New
          +4
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          In the picture Mig for some reason.


          Probably because RSK MiG in this competition .. "flew" by with its UAV, and the competition was won by OKB Sokol, with its ... Altius-M

          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 4 October 2013 21: 25 New
            0
            Quote: vaf
            OKB Sokol won the competition with its ... Altius-M



            Greetings, dear! drinks
            In my opinion, UAVs of various types are a great benefit. In any case, some next small mess will quickly show what works and what flies at exhibitions.
            But my question is - is anyone developing weapons for these UAVs? Or again NURSY hang belay
      2. Airman
        Airman 4 October 2013 11: 01 New
        0
        [quote = Orel] [quote] “Dry” in 2018 will present a 20-ton impact drone [/ quote]

        The Americans, either from the F-16, or from the F-15 made a drone, (no time to look). Poghosyan felt himself Caesar, and using Caesarean section he decided to make a drone out of the T-50.
      3. bereg
        bereg 4 October 2013 12: 34 New
        +2
        a moment and dry work in place, alone a moment can’t cope at the moment, in the photo the slope on the max layout was presented I don’t remember which
      4. Botanologist
        Botanologist 4 October 2013 21: 19 New
        0
        Quote: Orel
        By 2018, anything can happen, as they say, "maybe the donkey will already die." Who will then remember what they promised in 2013 ...


        If you don’t think today what will happen in the 2018 year, then nothing will happen in the 2018 year.
      5. ZVladimir222
        ZVladimir222 14 January 2018 01: 22 New
        0
        - Well, actually it’s not worth anything new for the general public to imagine how it has always been customary with us: we didn’t have time to take the aircraft into service — rather show off to the parade, show foreign guests. And they look and kumeke: "Yeah, here are the wings are trapezoidal, but two keels. Understandably! And we have been racking our brains for years!"
    2. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 4 October 2013 07: 03 New
      +8
      Wait ... I've been waiting for "Scat" since 2007. Then there was even a full-size layout.

      They lie again.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 4 October 2013 07: 46 New
        +7
        Quote: Kibalchish

        They lie again.

        all these developments from the category of secret, we won’t know anything until we decide to show them and tell everything hi
        1. GREAT RUSSIA
          GREAT RUSSIA 4 October 2013 10: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Kibalchish

          They lie again.

          all these developments from the category of secret, we won’t know anything until we decide to show them and tell everything hi

          That's right, I agree. So it was with the T-50 PAK FA, there were leaks and talk about a 5th generation aircraft, but everyone really knew when the state already showed the plane. So with these developments it will be the same.
      2. DuraLexSedLex.
        DuraLexSedLex. 4 October 2013 10: 01 New
        +2
        Skat is, in my opinion, the development of a MiG. You will not believe BUT HE CAN SHOOT. Really not sarcasm, there is fire control, thrust and so on for a long time in the gland, sales say the tests passed, the radar is not bad either But the jamb is a big PPC - there are no "brains". This is me about the electronic stuffing of management, there is trouble with it. Here is where and where and here the industry lags on the face (((((Own processors, proper level, we can’t do it yet.
      3. little man
        little man 4 October 2013 10: 06 New
        0
        Yeah. It seems that we will never see a UAV. They have been pulling the cat for eggs for a year now. Some promises.
      4. Warrawar
        Warrawar 4 October 2013 11: 52 New
        +4
        Mig just had a layout. A working drone was not even close. Just a copy for exhibitions.
    3. Civil
      Civil 4 October 2013 07: 07 New
      0
      5 years .... it's a failure ...
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 4 October 2013 09: 48 New
        +5
        Quote: Civil
        5 years .... it's a failure ...


        It depends on what you compare it to. Nelson's flagship Victory took six years to build. And in Britain there was an abundance of carpenters of appropriate qualifications.
    4. Mister X
      Mister X 6 December 2016 21: 08 New
      +1
      already at the turn of 2015-2016's
      five-ton UAV will be created by the company "Sokol"

      In 3 weeks, the 2017 year will come.
      The information is clearly outdated.
    5. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 2 February 2018 11: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: andrei332809
      Well, we'll wait.
      wee-wee ... today in 1957 the first artificial satellite of the earth was launched. and made it the USSR. with a holiday!

      Thank you for reminding you of the holiday!
      I would resume the release of the Soviet tear-off calendar, in which every day was a significant date for the achievements of the USSR. At least the youth taught the history of the former country on it, because you won’t find such a thing in textbooks. Yes, and the current authorities mute reproach on how to raise the country's GDP).
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 4 October 2013 06: 36 New
    13
    I have no doubt that they are also working on it at Miga, but Pagosyan took the place of a favorite at the court of their majesty ...
    1. bask
      bask 4 October 2013 06: 54 New
      10
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      I have no doubt that they are also working on it at Mig, but Pagosyan took the place of a favorite at the court

      The MIG prototype (model) of the UAV ,, Scat ,, was created 10 years ago.
      And Poghosyan took the place of the main sawmill of the camp.
      The budget allocated to the aircraft industry.
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 4 October 2013 08: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: bask
        Poghosyan took the place of the main sawmill

        Hi, Andryukh. Do not give in to the provocation of minusers. I, of course, alone can’t cope with them, but as far as I can, I will remove as many sleepers
      2. evil hamster
        evil hamster 4 October 2013 12: 10 New
        +3
        From mock-ups to flight prototypes, there is a "huge distance" (c) - and this is if there is funding. And to the main sawfly of the country, Uncle Pogo, like cancer to the moon. I think so, he will not fit into the first hundred, more worthy candidates from other branches of the people. farms are very much.
    2. Rodriques
      Rodriques 4 October 2013 07: 01 New
      +3
      Poghosyan thief still that request
      1. afire
        afire 4 October 2013 08: 37 New
        +5
        were you standing straight with candles and shining for him when he counted the stolen money?
        adults, and say such crap!
  3. Xmypp
    Xmypp 4 October 2013 06: 45 New
    +1
    Overcome vague doubts. With our bureaucrats and lovers promise.
  4. King
    King 4 October 2013 07: 04 New
    +1
    2018 - isn't it a shame !?
    1. Delink
      Delink 4 October 2013 07: 13 New
      +1
      In Russia, it is never too late. The main thing to voice, and there along the way it will be seen. We all hope for a chance. And there you can put a little in your pocket. Maybe a ride.
    2. Basileus
      Basileus 4 October 2013 07: 33 New
      +1
      Better late than never, right? But a 20-ton drummer - they waved, of course.
  5. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 4 October 2013 07: 20 New
    +4
    In creating drones today, first of all, it is necessary to create software for autonomous flight and task execution. To create the design of the aircraft there are plenty of achievements, but there is practically no software, as I understand it, and here we need to force the work.
    1. a52333
      a52333 4 October 2013 07: 37 New
      0
      Yeah, but all specialists!
      software must be created first
      And it should fly over foreign territory via Glonass, and not by GPS. We just covered our territory.
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 4 October 2013 09: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: a52333
        And it should fly over foreign territory via Glonass, and not by GPS.

        This is also important because GPS is, first of all, for the US Army and, as they say, Americans can easily move the coordinate grid and that's it,
      2. evil hamster
        evil hamster 4 October 2013 12: 12 New
        +2
        Glonas covers the entire globe, and for a long time
    2. Metlik
      Metlik 4 October 2013 10: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: vladsolo56
      software must be created first

      Russian programmers are some of the best in the world. It is a pity that they live in the USA.
    3. Far East
      Far East 4 October 2013 10: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: vladsolo56
      autonomous flight and mission software.

      hi I don’t think it is necessary to drown our electronic engineers so much! unmanned flight has already blown it BURAN operating time remained. and microchips are still doing. Recently a star showed our plant where they grow crystals (nano) and make microcircuits! not in such a call., as we want, but still sho that is. hi
  6. mirag2
    mirag2 4 October 2013 07: 21 New
    +1
    The picture is beautiful ... Yes, something is not very hard to believe.
    I always, when I say that "they will not create", that "will not be", that "Armata" is old, I always hope deep in my soul, that they will "create" and "will be", and "Armata" will be something breakthrough ...
    So you want to make a mistake ...
  7. Humpty
    Humpty 4 October 2013 07: 32 New
    0
    In futurum, you can say anything.
  8. Blad_21617
    Blad_21617 4 October 2013 07: 48 New
    +3
    in modern Russia the word tender scares ... everything is done only through it! how good it was in the Union that all design bureaus capable of building a prototype presented their developments and the state commission chose the best ... and now whoever rolls the dough how much and won and what after that no one knows to build and then they take 10 years each.
  9. Rus_87
    Rus_87 4 October 2013 07: 51 New
    +2
    Again this ubiquitous Poghosyan ... got it already! What, besides Sukhoi, there are no more design bureaus in the country? I won’t be surprised if in a couple of years Sukhoi will start riveting tanks with submarines ...
  10. Rash
    Rash 4 October 2013 07: 52 New
    +4
    Quote: vladsolo56
    In creating drones today, first of all, it is necessary to create software for autonomous flight and task execution. To create the design of the aircraft there are plenty of achievements, but there is practically no software, as I understand it, and here we need to force the work.

    In essence, it is necessary to create a FII (artificial intelligence system), where the components will be:
    . The module of electronic cards with reference to 3D space.
    . The module of location in space and in real time using external sensors (cameras, sensors, gyroscopes).
    . Autopilot module (takeoff, landing, heading, point).
    . Module of preparation and calculation of shooting.
    . Combat mission module (route, combat radius of anchor point, attack objects)
    . And much more.
    1. major071
      major071 4 October 2013 08: 17 New
      +6
      All this has already been developed in the USSR during the creation of Buran. Experience should be. Of course, technology stepped forward, even jumped forward, but the backlog still remained. Everything new is well forgotten old. hi
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 4 October 2013 21: 30 New
        0
        Quote: major071
        All this has already been developed in the USSR when Buran was created.


        All this has even been used in the USSR on UAVs such as Swift, Flight and Wing.
    2. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 4 October 2013 09: 02 New
      +1
      What does the word module mean? is that separate computer units? or I misunderstood
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 4 October 2013 10: 40 New
        +1
        These are separate tasks, which, due to their complexity, will probably short circuit their processors.
  11. taseka
    taseka 4 October 2013 08: 36 New
    +3
    In years through 10, everyone will fight with joysticks from the bunker, including soldiers! And captivity is a server shutdown! hi
  12. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 4 October 2013 08: 45 New
    +7
    They talk about the "Sukhoi", and the picture shows the alleged type of the strike UAV "Skat". And he is a product from "MiG" ... However, disorder. However, this is not important (although, it will come to him). The main thing is what is written under this picture ...

    And here we meet our old friend - Mikhail Poghosyan. He is famous for the fact that he "rules" the design bureau them. Sukhoi, is the "dad" of the most, most, most innovative in the history of our aircraft industry of the airliner with the name of the overseas "Super-Jet-100", and for some reason (for such feats and deeds? !!) The Italian Republic "...
    And this old friend is broadcasting to the whole world, white, that "Sukhoi" is ready to hand over "to the mountain" shock UAV ...
    Allow me - I would like to ask, where is Mikoyan's "Skat", the development of which was already announced at such a decent time that not many will remember the exact dates ...
    But it turns out that we will have to say goodbye to the Skat from the MiG. Such a tendency has recently begun to manifest itself - where Poghosyan appeared with his brainchild, there everyone's analogs suddenly die ... The example of the "SSD-100" and Tu-334 is quite indicative in this regard ... I have no doubt that now Quietly, a PR campaign will begin, the purpose of which will be to mix Skat and KB MiG with dirt. Just as it happened with the Tupolevites and their "334th" car in due time ... And now it will be even easier to do it. By that time, the Tu-334 had already flown, but the Skat had not ...

    In Soviet times, we were taught that the production and marketing of a product under capitalism takes place in conditions of fierce competition. Now I see that under capitalism, goods are promoted in the conditions of cuts and kickbacks ... Or is it an exclusively Russian model? ..
    1. Sharingan
      Sharingan 4 October 2013 09: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: Chicot 1
      About exclusively Russian model? ..

      Of course not. I think that American Pentagon officials are sawing more of our crooks on Boeing and Lockheed, only they call it cultural - lobbying.
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 4 October 2013 15: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: Sharingan
        I think American Pentagon officials are sawing more of our crooks on Boeing and Lockheed, but they call it culturally - lobbying

        In general, I have no doubt. Only (as a rule) in the final of any of the tenders do they have at least two candidates ...
        1. MilaPhone
          MilaPhone 4 October 2013 16: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: Chicot 1
          They talk about the "Sukhoi", and the picture shows the alleged type of the strike UAV "Skat". And he is a product from "MiG" ... However, disorder. However, this is not important (although, it will come to him). The main thing is what is written under this picture ...

          In the original article to which this one refers (see the source in the epilogue) there is no photo of "Skat" of KB "Mikoyan", but the following photo is present, (apparently unmanned AWACS recourse lol ):
          So. what .....
  13. darksoul
    darksoul 4 October 2013 09: 20 New
    +2
    In appearance it resembles foreign analogues. Well done, you should go along the Chinese path especially in those areas where you are hopelessly behind, skomunizdili ..... collected, improved ... pulled up the technology, and then yourself
  14. AlNick
    AlNick 4 October 2013 09: 33 New
    0
    Another PR project.
    Shoigu demands, Poghosyan said to eat.
    And away we go ... over the bumps. Another Super Jet, but now assembled from different pieces on the basis of the T-50.
    All that has been done on the Su-27 platform is a merit of the General Designer of the Design Bureau M.V. Simonova.
    And that Poghosyan is the main thing ahead of everyone on a dashing horse for budget money, pushing elbows off competitors. They didn’t really bring the Super Jet, they grabbed onto the MS-21, now a drone.
    Develop for your loot, and if successful, then add the budget.
    May be..?
    1. evil hamster
      evil hamster 4 October 2013 12: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: AlNick
      And away we go ... over the bumps. Another Super Jet, but now assembled from different pieces on the basis of the T-50.
      Like it's something bad? Unification? - no, have not heard.
      Quote: AlNick
      All that has been done on the Su-27 platform is a merit of the General Designer of the Design Bureau M.V. Simonova.
      Yes, only a couple of points: the T50 is not based on the T10. Poghosyan, unlike some other citizens, didn’t bleed his native design bureau, did not sell the territory for offices, did not build Sukhoyplaz, etc., but continued to earn money building aircraft.
      Quote: AlNick
      They didn’t really bring the Super Jet, they grabbed onto the MS-21, now a drone.
      Firstly, Surzh is brought in, secondly, a separate organization of the GSS is engaged in it, thirdly, ask Yandex what MS21 is and with what side Uncle Pogo is to him, I give hints: Fedorov, Irkut, Yakovlev Design Bureau - let the light of truth be revealed to you. in the latter, that this is interestingly preventing Sukhoi Design Bureau from doing drone?
  15. saag
    saag 4 October 2013 09: 59 New
    0
    and where is the radar?
  16. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 4 October 2013 10: 02 New
    +1
    The people in the picture near the air intake read the MiG logo !!! Author pick a different picture))))
    1. Prapor-527
      Prapor-527 4 October 2013 12: 46 New
      0
      There are no others. Maybe like this. The essence does not change, the concept is one. X-47B codenamed Salty Dog 501 (usa)
  17. air wolf
    air wolf 4 October 2013 10: 06 New
    +1
    And what is the problem of converting old drones into a shock version? I myself saw how they fly. All this has been in the USSR since the 70s
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 4 October 2013 21: 42 New
      0
      Quote: air wolf
      And what is the problem of converting old drones into a shock version? I myself saw how they fly.


      Which ones? Swift walked like a scout with a clear pre-flight mission. Carried AKFU-2A or AFS - non-weak such rolls of film came out after the flight. The wing and flight carried the already advanced cameras and location. The only thing they can be redone for is to put warheads and shoot like a cruise missile. Actually, warheads were included in the kit, and this was provided for in the design (I don’t know about the Wing, but Swift and Flight, for sure).
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 4 October 2013 10: 09 New
    +3
    Pogasyan is now the new Khrushchev from aviation.
    He sowed corn in the north, and this one will crush the entire aircraft industry.
    In my opinion, he’s having too much power, it's time to besiege a little
  19. iwind
    iwind 4 October 2013 10: 36 New
    +1
    Anyway, it’s good that they took it. Of course very it’s bad that you put all the eggs in the basket (dry).
    If only they were not empty promises. Both MO and Sukhoi will turn to face the people, and they won’t keep everything secret, but they will take an example from the Northrop Grumman X-47B, when all the stages of development are visible to people.
  20. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 4 October 2013 10: 45 New
    0
    Good news, pleased. All the same, we must catch up.
  21. Xroft
    Xroft 4 October 2013 10: 52 New
    -1
    So far, nothing is heard about the t-50. They showed it at the MAKS without much fanfare ... as a prototype, no one knows the characteristics of its real ones, although after 2 years it should go into the series ... in the West, they also do not write much about it. And here in 2018 some drones .....
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 4 October 2013 15: 19 New
      0
      Ivan, on the pages of the site it is considered bad manners to voice anything bad about the T-50 and the "fifth generation" (although the same American "f-two-two" are firing on what the world is worth, and deservedly so) ... cons ...
      And you from me "+". For writing what you think is necessary ...
  22. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 4 October 2013 11: 06 New
    +1
    Sukhoi in 2018 will introduce 20-tonnage drone

    Is this good news? No doubt good.
    Will they create a drone? Most likely they will. Maybe at the wrong time and not Su alone ...

    We will not be able to create in one case if our enemy once again ruins our country.

    And what do we see in the comments?
    - another cut!
    - Pogosyan thief!
    - Again deceived!
    - Another PR!
    - Empty promises!
    - Provide us ready-made on a dish, then we will believe.

    ... I have no words.
  23. rudolff
    rudolff 4 October 2013 12: 58 New
    +3
    The very idea of ​​creating such devices is undoubtedly good, they were needed yesterday, but here are the ways to implement it ... I have no doubt that Sukhoi will draw a sketch by the appointed time, blow the model at TsAGI, build prototypes. In the case of a shortage of original ideas, it is possible to roam about the appearance of potential "friends", motivating the similarity with "the inapplicability of the laws of aerodynamics." But "Sukhoi" is not responsible and does not create the "brains" of the aircraft, engines, weapons, and without all this the glider will be just a composite-aluminum dummy. In parallel with the tender for the creation of heavy UAVs, at least it was necessary to announce a tender for the development of automated control systems for UAVs, avionics. This is no less a challenge than building the glider itself. Under this case, it would not be a sin to allocate a couple of three old dryers, moments, one or two Yak-130. And if they were taught to take off, fly, and land in automatic mode, it would make a much greater impression than another "pepelats in the garage"
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  25. Yars
    Yars 24 November 2016 11: 23 New
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    Quote: vaf
    Quote: Povshnik
    Poghosyan overlooked


    Just the opposite ... EVERYTHING PROVIDED wink don't be great and first after god wassat

    Why "reinvent the wheel" when there is already a practically finished project and layout ... to finalize.,. Attach your label and that's it .... Poghosyan is on horseback again wassat


    Well, these are my thoughts, but now .. "semi-official", so that there would be no "talk" about .. "all pro-salipolymers". well, etc.

    According to Mikhail Poghosyan's statement in August 2009, the design of a new attack unmanned complex was supposed to be the first joint work of the respective divisions of the Sukhoi Design Bureau and MiG (Skat project). wassat

    The media reported on the conclusion of a contract for the implementation of R&D "Okhotnik" with the company "Sukhoi" on July 12, 2011

    In August 2011, the merger of the respective divisions of RSK MiG and Sukhoi to develop a promising strike UAV was confirmed in the media, wink but the official agreement between MiG and Sukhoi was signed only on October 25, 2012. soldier

    The terms of reference for an attack UAV was approved by the Russian Ministry of Defense on the first days of April 2012. good

    On July 6, 2012, the media reported that the Sukhoi company had been selected by the Russian Air Force as the lead developer.
    fellow wink lol

    What was required ... to prove wink

    We are waiting for messages that the great Misha has "grabbed" for himself and the sixth generation wassat


    excuse me, are you crawling here? !
  26. CKORPII
    CKORPII 30 November 2016 02: 35 New
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    only hait can and in fact tell you nothing fellow for not leading divodavods fool
  27. Lestat
    Lestat 1 December 2016 07: 18 New
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    News from the past - what does it mean "will be at the turn of 15-16 years"? Already, as it should have been ...
  28. family tree
    family tree 16 December 2016 01: 22 New
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    Nafig picture
    I will not allow to offend pregnant women, but a pregnant aircraft, Danauna, nafig never a predator, even pregnant, damn, in the course of someone f-35s with a thick fuselage does not give rest.
    This, in the aggressor, everything should be fine, because, the ugly will not fly. Will stay in the air, but no fly request
  29. iliya87
    iliya87 20 December 2016 13: 31 New
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    I just want to say "It's high time ... have you been so long?"
  30. General Charnotha
    General Charnotha 14 February 2017 19: 41 New
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    in the picture for some reason a moment is drawn on board and where does it dry ??
  31. General Charnotha
    General Charnotha 14 February 2017 19: 42 New
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    in the picture a moment they write about dry
  32. CKORPII
    CKORPII 19 February 2017 21: 29 New
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    the people are you whining and whining and? Yes, not all at once, but done not so fast as we would like. The main priorities in general, and most importantly in particular winked
  33. Ben84
    Ben84 3 May 2017 15: 11 New
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    And why in the photo of the device with the Mig symbolism ???
  34. saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 29 January 2018 16: 55 New
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    and a five-ton UAV will be created by Sokol at the turn of 2015-2016, a senior source in the Russian military-industrial complex (MIC) said.

    Can someone tell a high-ranking source that the yard is already 2018.
  35. Livonetc
    Livonetc April 20 2018 13: 59 New
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    Quote: saturn.mmm
    and a five-ton UAV will be created by Sokol at the turn of 2015-2016, a senior source in the Russian military-industrial complex (MIC) said.

    Can someone tell a high-ranking source that the yard is already 2018.

    The wording is dumb.
    We do not like transfers.
    Therefore, no one transmits.
    And happiness was so possible.
  36. Seal
    Seal 18 May 2018 12: 53 New
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    Quote: saturn.mmm
    Can someone tell a high-ranking source that the yard is already 2018.

    The article “Dry” in 2018 will present a 20-ton strike drone posted on October 4 2013 year.