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European hyenas. To the 75-flight of the Munich Agreement

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In the political calendar of the Western democracies, from time to time anniversaries of such events appear, which in London, Washington, Paris or Warsaw would prefer not to recall. One of them happened 75 years ago, 30 September 1938, when in Munich the prime ministers of Great Britain and France N. Chamberlain and E. Daladier put their signatures next to the signatures of A. Hitler and B. Mussolini under the agreement that Czechoslovakia gave to the slaughter . The United States supported the Munich deal ...


But still historical the memory of peoples is stronger than anyone's desire to erase, obscure this shameful page of Western diplomacy. Indeed, the Munich conspiracy must not be forgotten - because it was from him that the Second World War grew just a year later.

We turn over some pages of the history of 1938. Hitler decided to destroy Czechoslovakia in the spring of that year. In early April, he informed Mussolini that he intended to stop Germany moving towards the Mediterranean Sea and begin to solve the problems of the Sudetenland, where the majority of the population were ethnic Germans. In the Directive on the Grün Plan of 30 on May 1938, the Führer stated: "My firm decision is the destruction of Czechoslovakia through military action in the foreseeable future." At the direction of the chief of staff of the Supreme Command of the Wehrmacht V. Keitel, given to the commander in chief of the armed forces, the implementation of this directive was to be “ensured at the latest from October 1 to 1938.”

"Stopped" Hitler Neville Chamberlain. Showing literally touching concern that the military action did not cause international complications of the Third Reich, the British Prime Minister assured the interlocutor in his quest for “German-English rapprochement” and readiness at the 15 September meeting of 1938 with the Führer in Berchtesgaden (Germany) for the sake of this, recognize the inclusion of the Sudeto-German regions into Germany Undoubtedly, this untied the hands of Hitler, who could now have absolutely no fear that the desire to expand "living space" at the expense of Czechoslovak territory would be "not so" perceived by Western democracies. It was not by chance that during the re-meeting with Chamberlain in Godesberg, Hitler behaved in a businesslike manner: he demanded that all conditions be created for the occupation of the Sudeten no later than October October 1. And the British prime agreed. As an intermediary at a conference dedicated to solving the Sudeten problem, Great Britain chose the famous “peacemaker” - the Italian duce.

Having met on September 29 in Munich, Hitler, Mussolini, Chamberlain and Daladier, they ordered the government of Czechoslovakia to hand over to Germany about 75% of its territory within ten days. Czechoslovakia was losing a quarter of the population, about half of the heavy industry, powerful fortifications on the border with Germany, the new line of which now actually rested against the outskirts of Prague. The negative attitude to this dictatorship of the country's government was not taken into account, its representatives were not even deigned to be invited to Munich.

Thus, the coercion of Czechoslovakia was committed by the will of the Western democracies. But there was still the Soviet Union, which could have violated the plans of the Munich Four, because it was bound (as, by the way, France) by the 1935 agreement with Czechoslovakia. And although it was written in that agreement that in the event that assistance to the victim of the attack was provided by France (and France, as we see, betrayed Czechoslovakia), Moscow could decide to act unilaterally and still come out in defense of the Czechoslovakians. True, this required one more condition: for the Red Army to defend its contract partner, its troops had to cross Polish territory. But here Poland hastily hurried to the aid of London and Berlin. The Polish Ambassador to Paris, Y. Lukasevich, assured his colleague from the USA, W. Bullitt, that his country would immediately declare war on the Soviet Union if he tried to send troops through Polish territory to the borders of Czechoslovakia.

In Warsaw, they were already anticipating the future dismemberment of their neighbor, since the Poles themselves were eager to profit. Back in May, French Foreign Minister J. Bonnet told the Polish ambassador that the plan "on the division of Czechoslovakia between Germany and Hungary with the transfer of Teshensky Silesia to Poland is not a secret." Naive! .. In the above-mentioned telegram of Hitler addressed to Mussolini (recall - this is the beginning of April), among the immediate goals of Germany was the solution of the “problems” not only of the Sudetenland, but also of the “Polish corridor”. Absorption of the Polish territory, which separated East Prussia from the main territory of the Reich, one way or another would have turned into a war, which happened exactly one year later. But first enticed by the prospect of participation in the section of Czechoslovakia, and after 30 in September of 1938 and the exclusion of the Teshenskaya region (Teshenskaya Silesia) from it, the Poles did not notice the shadow of the imperial eagle with a swastika in its claws advancing from the west.

Europe's hyena, as W. Churchill called Poland non-diplomatically, was one of the first to regret her short-sightedness, becoming another victim of Nazi Germany in the world war that began on September 1 on September 1939. The following were France and the United Kingdom. But didn't they themselves in Munich give this war a green light?

We emphasize the most important features of the Munich Agreement: first, it was the agreed dictate of Germany and England (France and Italy followed in the wake of their partners); secondly, Hungary and Poland were complicit in the collusion and partition of Czechoslovakia: the latter occupied the Teshen region, and Hungary - the southern regions of Slovakia; thirdly, the Soviet Union was isolated. The measures he took in support of Czechoslovakia (concentration of troops on the western borders, diplomatic demarches) were not successful.

Britain and France hoped to pacify Germany at the cost of territorial concessions at the expense of Czechoslovakia, to divert the charge of its aggressive policy from itself. Soviet intelligence reported to Moscow that before the departure from Munich, Chamberlain again met with Hitler, who confidentially told the British prime minister: "We have enough planes to attack the USSR, especially since there is no longer any danger of basing Soviet planes on Czechoslovak airfields."

The Munich deal overnight destroyed with such difficulty the framework of the collective security system in Europe, which was based on the Soviet-French and Soviet-Czechoslovak treaties on mutual assistance. Having absorbed Czechoslovakia, Hitler, seeing perfectly well that no Western state or grouping of states is going to prevent him from territorial division, 3 on April 1939 gave a completely secret directive, which determined the time of the attack on Poland - 1 of September of the same year.

Under these conditions, the Soviet Union had no choice but, avoiding danger, to remain face to face with the possible united front of the Western powers, to go in August 1939 to sign a non-aggression treaty with Germany.

Today, by relieving themselves of the responsibility for “appeasing” Hitler, which resulted in a world conflagration, Western politicians and historians are trying to shift it onto other people's shoulders - to accuse the Soviet Union of provoking the Second World War. In fact, they still cannot forgive the Soviet leadership that, having completed a brilliant diplomatic maneuver, it slipped out of the trap set for the USSR and, thanks to the non-aggression treaty with Germany, avoided the prospect of war with the united forces of the West and left the Anglo-Saxons with the Wehrmacht the French, who, caressing Hitler, so strove to send him east.
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  1. Denis
    Denis 4 October 2013 08: 17 New
    +3
    Warsaw was already looking forward to the future dismemberment of its neighbor, as the Poles themselves sought to profit. Back in May, French Foreign Minister J. Bonnet informed the Polish ambassador that the plan "on the division of Czechoslovakia between Germany and Hungary with the transfer of Teshen Silesia to Poland is not a secret"
    So they were trying to discover such proud and peace-loving people, as well as Yakleia (from the great + talk), so if they grunted, it was aggression, when the USSR took its own, then it’s all right. ran into
  2. alekseyal
    alekseyal 4 October 2013 09: 04 New
    +6
    Britain and the United States brought Hitler to power and then surrendered the countries of Europe to him so that Hitler would attack the USSR. Starikov wrote about this in great detail in the book "Who Made Hitler Attack Stalin"
    1. Dezzed
      Dezzed 4 October 2013 15: 25 New
      -17
      now let him write a book - "Who made Stalin give Germany to develop weapons on the territory of the USSR?"
      1. Djozz
        Djozz 4 October 2013 15: 53 New
        10
        Ash stump, Zionists!
        1. Denis
          Denis 4 October 2013 17: 10 New
          +2
          Quote: Djozz
          Ash stump, Zionists!
          good +!
      2. Denis
        Denis 4 October 2013 17: 08 New
        +2
        Quote: DezzeD
        Now let’s write a book
        A stamp like the sensational child sacrifices or the occupation of Poland-Baltic ...
        Germany was not Nazi at that time and the experience gained was not out of place
      3. smile
        smile 4 October 2013 19: 27 New
        +4
        Dezzed
        Such childish lies will not work here .... :))) And it’s not worth it ... you’re unreasonable to make everyone laugh :))) you couldn’t even correctly repeat the propaganda cliche that you tried to use. Do not dishonor the nation! :))))

        According to the article. To the authors, you were mistaken, the British were not going to pacify anyone - it was not for nothing that they raised a Nazi beast. And France at that time was moving in the wake of English politics ....

        Here are a couple of representative statements by the British ambassador to Germany at that time:
        Neville Henderson. 37 years old.
        "To put it bluntly, Eastern Europe ... is of no vital interest to England. It could even be argued that it is unfair to prevent Germany from completing its unity and preparing for war against the Slavs, provided that these preparations do not harm the British Empire, that they are not simultaneously directed against us."

        Well, everything is clear, the guy blabbed ... :)))

        The same organism broadcasts in the same 38 year.
        "The Czechs are a pig-headed race. And Benes is the most pig-headed in his herd. England is not going to risk a single sailor or pilot for the sake of Czechoslovakia ..."

        Like this. Nobody pacified anyone — the Czechs gave Hitler to strengthen him — he received one weapon as much as Germany produced in a year ... and industry, and reserves .... yes, damn it, the British gave Hitler even a Czech gold reserve. which the Czechs were able to evacuate ... It strikes the second utterance, the use of the word race is annoying ... these words are very typical of the Nazis ...
        1. old man54
          old man54 5 October 2013 19: 01 New
          +1
          Vladimir, I categorically welcome! hi
          Quote: smile
          Do not dishonor the nation! :))))

          good laughing lol
          Quote: smile
          The British were not going to appease anyone - it was not for nothing that they raised a Nazi beast. And France at that time was moving in the wake of English politics ..

          here’s a link to a terribly interesting and definitely worthy of attention doc film investigation! The film is true about Katyn and everything about it, but its first 2 parts are just about this whole situation and about the war in Poland itself, of course! You, Vlvdimir, as I recall, this strange Poland is not indifferent, so it will be interesting for you to watch it, you will tear along with it! fellow
  3. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 4 October 2013 10: 18 New
    +7
    In 1938, in Munich, the West “surrendered” Czechoslovakia to Germany. Czechoslovakia itself was not even represented at the conference, the USSR was simply ignored, despite the fact that it had an agreement with France on guarantees of Czechoslovakia. The Litvinov policy of “collective security” collapsed completely, the USSR found itself in complete isolation just before the outbreak of war in Europe. In Spain, the West has long turned its back on a legitimate government - the war was over.
    Having solved the Sudetenland question, Hitler put an end to the remnants of Czechoslovakia in the spring of 1939, with Poland taking part in the partition of the country (in response, the Slovak brigade would join the Wehrmacht in September 1939) and Hungary (taking Transcarpathian Russia).
    The Czechs, of course, did not resist ...
    Slovakia also took part in the attack on the USSR, the "Sudeten" Czechs served loyally in the Wehrmacht, and Czech factories regularly supplied the Germans with the latest military equipment throughout the war (Czech tank destroyers "Hetzer" alone are worth it - they produced almost 3.000 pieces and how many souls of our tankers they sent to heaven - God knows ...).
    But Benes, apparently, still had a "special" relationship with Stalin (the Czechs even bought a license for the production of SB bombers!) - after the war, he, the only one of the pre-war leaders of the Eastern European state, returned to his post and sat on it almost until his very death (according to the calendar date, the Komsomol king, Knight of the Order of Victory Mihai I "lagged behind" him a little).
    1. corn
      corn 4 October 2013 21: 47 New
      0
      and not only with technology, but if I’m not mistaken, the shoes of Dad’s company, which still exists today, but already in Canada.
      Many people know her under the Cebo brand (Czech factories were nationalized in 1945). He wore low shoes, bought at military stores, and had no complaints about the form of clothing in the late 70s. In the 90s, keeping the uniform was not relevant.
  4. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 4 October 2013 10: 24 New
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    According to the results of the Munich agreement, the state of Poland in October 1938 supported Nazi Germany in territorial claims against Czechoslovakia and annexed part of the Czech and Slovak lands, including the towns of Tesinska Silesia, Orava and Spis. Before the conclusion of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, a little less than a year remained.

    Polish tanks 7TR enter the Czech city of Tesin (Cieszyn). October 1938 of the year

    The Poles replace the Czech name of the city with the Polish name at the city’s railway station in the city of Tesin.

    Polish soldiers pose with the Czechoslovak coat of arms deposed near the telephone and telegraph building they seized during Operation Zaluzhe in the Czech village of Ligotka Kameralna-Polish, Komorní Lhotka-Czech., Located near the town of Teszyn.

    Polish soldiers at the captured Czech checkpoint at the Czechoslovak-German border, at the pedestrian bridge, built in honor of the anniversary of the emperor Franz Josef in the Czech city of Bohumin. The Czechoslovak frontier pillar has not yet been demolished.

    Handshake of Polish Marshal Edward Rydz-Smiglá and German Attache Colonel Bogislaw von Studnitz at the Independence Day parade in Warsaw on November 11 1938 of the year. The photograph is notable for the fact that the Polish parade was especially tied to the capture of Tesinska Silesia a month earlier.

    Polish troops occupy the Czech village of Jorgov during an operation to annex the Czechoslovak lands Spis.

    Brotherhood of soldiers of the Hungarian and Polish occupation forces in captured Czechoslovakia.

    German and Polish border guard on a railway bridge in the Czech city captured by the Poles Bohumin.
    Photos taken
    http://slavanthro.mybb3.ru/viewtopic.php?t=9638
    1. Dezzed
      Dezzed 4 October 2013 15: 36 New
      -10
      Here are the tricks of these Poles.

      Avot is still an interesting photograph!

      I wonder under what circumstances and what is it about the undeveloped fascist and our Soviet officer?

      Let me tell you: German officers in the location of the Soviet military unit. Brest-Litovsk. 22.09.1939/XNUMX/XNUMX.

      there are also some cards hanging in the back. just some kind of mystery!


      http://photochronograph.ru/2013/03/10/napadenie-na-polshu-v-1939-godu/
      1. Denis
        Denis 4 October 2013 17: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: DezzeD
        I wonder under what circumstances and what is it about the undeveloped fascist and our Soviet officer?
        Let me tell you: German officers in the location of the Soviet military unit. Brest-Litovsk. 22.09.1939 of the year
        Historical information
        Since XB. Berestye was an old Russian trading center and a fortress abroad with Polish and Lithuanian possessions. The place where the ancient Berestye was located was located at the intersection of two ancient trade routes. One of them went along the Western Bug from Galician Rus and Volhynia to Poland, the Baltic states and Western Europe, the other - along the Mukhavets, Bolot, Pina, Pripyat, Dnieper and connected Berestye with Kiev, the Black Sea, the Middle East. In connection with the border deployment, the city was often the subject of civil strife and military clashes, passed from hand to hand, was plundered and destroyed more than once.
        It establishes a demarcation line and then still beats, and not just something
        1. Dezzed
          Dezzed 5 October 2013 17: 40 New
          -1
          Now everything is clear! Soviet officer
          Quote: Denis
          Sets the line of demarcation ...


          but do you explain what our officers were doing in the occupation of Polish territory?
      2. Rapier
        Rapier 4 October 2013 18: 06 New
        -12
        As you know, politics is a dirty business!
        From the USSR, and now from Russia, they were always jealous of international events into which the USSR was not invited. At such meetings they hung cliches as a bunch for example and anathematized.

        Rowing the USSR of that time into a peacemaker, well, no matter how it goes. The USSR ended the year when the Spanish Civil War ended, where the Soviets taught the Spaniards how to wage a civil war, until the last Spaniard (Stalin did not agree on the rest).
        Having received in the face, the USSR hit the road from the Perineisky Peninsula, but .... they seized the entire gold reserve of the Spaniards of 510 tons. It was not sickly, they brought them a civil war, death and devastation, and the NKVD hid behind the curtain and gold.
        After such rudeness, no one wanted to deal with Sovdepi, the Czechs preferred a lesser evil in the form of Germans, the Poles completely rejected Usatii’s attempts to let the valiant and legendary pass through their territory. England and France it was on the drum, if only there was no war with them.
        The author forgot about the aggressive campaigns of the Soviet of Deputies a year later, and these were alienations along the entire perimeter of the western borders. Is this not a barbarism of big in relation to small states, a wolf however!
        1. smile
          smile 4 October 2013 20: 05 New
          +6
          Rapier
          The USSR of that time, the top of peacemaking, was simply more peaceful than us. At the same time, we also managed not to violate a single international agreement, unlike the Nazis. the British, etc. Although yes, we were not good at that. that someone conspires behind us and creates coalitions hostile to us and plans to destroy our country ... like, for example, the Anglo-French ... or the Germans, Poles, Finns ... But what, was this to be welcomed? :)))
          In Spain, we, in accordance with the canons of international law, provided assistance to the legitimate, and non-communist government against the fascist rebellion. What have we done wrong? Or are you glad. that even in one country fascism won? :)))
          By the way, it’s very touching to see here the complete unity of the German champion of Nazism and his Jewish brother ... :))) Do you dream, I suppose, to build Buchenwald again? For a couple ... :)))
          In accordance with customs, while Spain could pay for material assistance, she paid for it from Spain's gold reserves. which the SPANISH exported for fear of seizure (remember. the Czechs exported gold to England in the seizure of Czechoslovakia. And the British gave their gold to Hitler ... would you like to?)
          We sent there about three thousand advisers. Many more volunteers from Western countries came.
          Everything else is disgusting to comment, it's just the nonsense of a frantic Russophobe, or an unfinished Nazi ...
          I repeat. under Stalin, we did not violate a single international treaty, and even the meanest British with the Nazis knew that the Russian word could be relied on.
          Poland failed. that they really wanted to capture our lands with Hitler, the British something like that - not in vain did they feed Hitler
          A year later, we simply returned the lands torn away by force that belonged to our country. I understand that it offends you that we were able to strengthen and return the selected from you then. But don’t worry, the story goes in a spiral, we will return it again ... but Germany is alas. it doesn’t shine, the pederasts put you there ... the obvious victim of tolerance ... :))) Congratulations ... :))) And if I suggested to your Jewish colleague REMEMBER about soap ... then I recommend you to use ... :)))
          1. chehywed
            chehywed 5 October 2013 19: 14 New
            +1
            Anecdote.
            Our time. A group of tourists from Israel goes on an excursion to Auschwitz. On the outskirts of a small town, the bus breaks. The driver approaches the nearest house, knocks. The door opens a respectable German ...
            -Sorry, I'm taking a group of tourists from Israel to Auschwitz, and the bus broke down. Help me ...
            - I would love to, but I only have a microwave.
      3. smile
        smile 4 October 2013 19: 43 New
        +4
        Dezzed
        This is a famous photograph and it was taken in a temporary parking lot near Brest. They did not camp there. The Germans came to discuss the order of surrender of the city. At the meeting, it was agreed that at first the Germans would march around the city, leaving for the house, and then, after it, our troops would occupy the Fortress, occupying the territory previously occupied by the Poles. The Germans tried not to drop their faces and persuade ours to a joint parade, but ours refused. So that everything is simple. We just walked on the heels of the Germans, displacing them, and they coordinated with us their actions, in view of that. that there were sufficient serious clashes, for example, near Lviv.
        Everything is clear to everyone, and only a few admirers of the Nazis see riddles here. It is especially surprising to read your comments when you see your markings.
        I hope you do not need to remind you of a phrase from one sensational Israeli video? There. where a normal Jew explains abnormal, if not for the Red Army. then you and your family ... remember next? About a bar of soap? :))) You can see right away how honest you are, and most importantly, a grateful person ... :)))
      4. Shogun23
        Shogun23 5 October 2013 02: 17 New
        0
        Oh what is this? Who on the right is such a mustachioed man talking with Polish Foreign Minister Jozef Beck? Is it not Stalin?
    2. Dezzed
      Dezzed 4 October 2013 15: 43 New
      -13
      one more from there

      German generals, including Heinz Guderian (far right), confer with the battalion commissar Borovensky in Brest.
      1. smiths xnumx
        smiths xnumx 4 October 2013 16: 09 New
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        Those who denounce the Soviet invasion like DezzeD “forget” that the predecessor of the UN League of Nations, which only three months later recognized aggression as the invasion of Soviet troops in Finland, the USSR did not condemn the USSR for bringing troops into Poland in 1939, and through its teeth Churchill recognized the legality of Soviet occupation Union of Western Ukraine and Western Belarus on the Brest Meridian.
        “We preferred the Russian armies to stand in their current positions as friends and allies of Poland, rather than as invaders,” said Sir Winston. “But to protect Russia from the Nazi threat, it was clearly necessary for the Russian armies to stand on this line.” ("The Second World War")
        .
        Those mourners in Poland like you prefer not to remember these words of Churchill. They forget that in the same 1939, Lithuania and Slovakia received their pieces of the Second Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, and the cancellation of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact makes the Lithuanian rights to Vilnius transferred to it by the Soviet Union extremely doubtful. The Ukrainian nobles also keep quiet about the illegality of the pact, since in case of such a thing they will have to say goodbye to the "hotbed of Ukrainians" - Galicia, the city of Lemberg-Lvov and Volynia.

        The Second Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which Vyacheslav Molotov, the People’s Commissar of Foreign Affairs of the USSR, rightly called the "ugly brainchild of the Treaty of Versailles", completely naturally ceased to exist in a hyena-like manner. The state, which became its successor after the Second World War, had completely different borders, basically coinciding with the borders of the Polish kingdom that emerged at the end of the XNUMXth century, after the expulsion of the German population it became mono-ethnic and therefore remains stable, despite all the political changes of recent decades.
        1. Djozz
          Djozz 4 October 2013 17: 03 New
          +2
          The USSR bought from Germany the Vilna region. for 7,, 5 ml. gold dollars. Protocol-agreement of January 10, 1941
        2. Denis
          Denis 4 October 2013 17: 31 New
          +5
          Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
          Second Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
          The first time is history, the second is cheap comedy, and now it's pornography
          monica country, what else can I say ...
        3. Dezzed
          Dezzed 5 October 2013 17: 46 New
          -2
          Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
          The USSR did not condemn the USSR for bringing troops into Poland in 1939, and Churchill gritted his teeth through the teeth of the Soviet Union the Western Ukraine and Western Belarus on the Brest meridian.


          and then suddenly the UN and Churchill became for you a standard of behavior and honor!

          bravo, there’s simply no strength to fend off ...
      2. svp67
        svp67 4 October 2013 22: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: DezzeD
        German generals, including Heinz Guderian (far right), confer with the battalion commissar Borovensky in Brest.

        Yes, it’s more like some kind of clarification on the map ...
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 4 October 2013 22: 15 New
          +5
          German generals, including Heinz Guderian (far right), confer with the battalion commissar of the 29th tank brigade of the Red Army Vladimir Yulianovich Borovitsky (1909-1998) in Brest. During the invasion of Poland, the city of Brest on September 14, 1939 was occupied by the 20th Wehrmacht motorized corps under the command of General Guderian. September 21, Germany and the USSR agreed on a temporary demarcation line between their troops, Brest retreated to the Soviet zone. On September 29, the XNUMXth separate tank brigade of the Red Army entered command in Brest, under the command of Semyon Krivoshein, who had previously received orders to receive the city from the Germans.
          1. svp67
            svp67 4 October 2013 22: 18 New
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            Quote: Alex 241
            Alex 241

            soldier
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 4 October 2013 22: 19 New
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              Greetings Seryozha.
              1. svp67
                svp67 4 October 2013 22: 29 New
                +3
                Quote: Alex 241
                Greetings Seryozha.

                Likewise. Honestly, I don’t know why the "Westerners" are trying to hurt us so much with pictures of our and German soldiers and commanders in 1939 ... Even Churchill recognized the validity of the USSR's actions, this was even when we were not allies, and he never liked us , but nonetheless..
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 4 October 2013 22: 33 New
                  +3
                  Earrings, I want to answer with one famous quote: The dream of reason gives birth to monsters.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 4 October 2013 22: 36 New
                    +4
                    My grandfather took part in the "Polish campaign", and so he recalled that they were greeted with FLOWERS everywhere, as liberators, since the Poles treated Belarusians, Rusyns and Ukrainians very harshly, there were cases of destruction of entire villages ... So everything is natural.
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                    2. old man54
                      old man54 5 October 2013 19: 20 New
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                      Quote: svp67
                      My grandfather took part in the "Polish campaign", and so he recalled that they were greeted with FLOWERS everywhere, as liberators, since the Poles treated Belarusians, Rusyns and Ukrainians very harshly, there were cases of destruction of entire villages ..

                      I put a documentary film above, look, do not be lazy, if you haven’t seen it, you will learn a lot about that time!
                2. Shogun23
                  Shogun23 5 October 2013 02: 28 New
                  +2
                  In such cases, "Westerners" need to show these pictures
                  1. Dezzed
                    Dezzed 5 October 2013 17: 51 New
                    0
                    I, as a "representative" of the "Westerners" will write without flinching, Chamberlain was, in my opinion, a dumbass and a coward.

                    but how do you comment on the sweat. him. and owls. officers?
                3. Shogun23
                  Shogun23 5 October 2013 02: 30 New
                  +1
                  Here they are sitting together at one table.
          2. Dezzed
            Dezzed 5 October 2013 17: 48 New
            0
            Quote: Alex 241
            Brest retreated to the Soviet zone


            What kind of beautiful word is that? how did he "Went away" ?!
            who gave the Poles or the Germans?
      3. smiths xnumx
        smiths xnumx 4 October 2013 22: 29 New
        +4
        Listen to the dear DezzeD, looking at your attempts, sometimes you want to regret that not all individual stupid individuals, the German fascists drove into the gas chambers. You are trying to put an equal sign between the USSR and Nazi Germany, just do not forget that Jews were expected in the USSR and that in Nazi Germany, as well as the Poles. And as regards your photos, I want to say that this is called joint passage of troops.
        Yes. Guderian really wanted to hold a full-fledged joint parade in Brest, but then he agreed to the procedure proposed by the commander of the 29th tank brigade S.M. Krivoshein. by the way a Jew by nationality: “At 16 o’clock, parts of your corps in the marching column, with standards in front, leave the city, my units, also in the marching column, enter the city, stop on the streets where the German regiments pass, and salute the passing parts with their banners . Orchestras perform military marches. ”
        The order for the 20th German division on September 21 says:
        "1. On the occasion of the adoption of Brest-Litovsk by Soviet troops on 22.9.1939/15.00/16.00, preliminarily between 19 and 19 a march will take place at the headquarters building of the XNUMXth Army Corps in front of the commander of XNUMX AK Guderian and the commander of the Soviet troops ... German and Soviet take part in the march units »
        .
        http://nvo.ng.ru/history/2000-06-23/5_newwordhistory.html

        As you can see, very streamlined formulations are used. “Marching”, “in a marching column”, etc. Such reservations cannot be accidental, the fact is that for the military of any country, participation in parades, the order of passage of troops, who and how accepts the parade and other points of this ritual are most strictly prescribed in the Charter. And practically none of the requirements of the Charter in this case is not met. Strictly speaking, it is already clear from the wording of the orders that the incident cannot be called a parade. At best - a joint procession. But was there such a procession?
        1. smiths xnumx
          smiths xnumx 4 October 2013 22: 30 New
          +2
          Well, here's the order for you:
          Brest-Litovsk, 21.9.1939.
          The agreement on the transfer of the city of Brest-Litovk and the further advancement of Russian troops.

          1.) German troops leave Brest-Litovsk 22.9 at 14:00.
          In particular:
          8:00 Approach of the Russian battalion for the adoption of the fortress and land ownership of the city of Brest.

          10:00 Session of the mixed commission consisting of:
          from the Russian side: Captain Gubanov
          com. [Issar] bat. [alona] Panov / Panoff /
          from the German side: Sub. [Colonel] Golm / Holm / (command. [Ant of the city]
          Subp. [Clerk] Sommer / Sommer / (interpreter)

          14:00 Beginning of the passage of the solemn march of Russian and German troops in front of the commanders on both sides with the change of flag in custody. During the change of flag the music of national anthems is played.

          2.) non-transportable German wounded are transferred under the supervision of the Russian army and are sent upon reaching transportability.

          3.) Currently, non-transportable German devices, weapons and ammunition are temporarily abandoned by German units (Nachkommando) and transported as far as possible.

          4.) All reserves remaining after 21.9, 24:00 hours are transferred to the Russian troops.

          5.) vehicles that become damaged due to a breakdown follow after repair to German military units. The pickup groups must notify themselves of the liaison officer at the headquarters of the Russian troops in Brest.

          6.) Transfer of all prisoners and trophies is carried out upon presentation of a certificate of receipt.

          7.) minimization of the field telephone network is carried out 24.9 through units (Nachkommando), only in the afternoon.

          8.) To resolve all still open issues, the above-mentioned mixed commission remains.

          9.) The arrangement is valid only for the territory where the army units are located in the northeastern direction.

          10.) The further offensive of the Russian troops is coordinated by a mixed commission on the basis of command directives on both sides.
          subs. [isal] Nering / Nehring / own. [at hand] subs. [isal] Gubanov own. [at hand]
          from the German side, from the Russian side,
          Colonel, s. [meadows in] G. [staff] captain

          Well, here is his photocopy:

        2. svp67
          svp67 4 October 2013 22: 33 New
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          Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
          As you can see, very streamlined formulations are used. “Marching”, “in a marching column”, etc.
          Yes, I do not know why the words PARADE are embarrassed. Our troops deserved it. Although of course, what the passage of our troops show on documentary filming does not pull on this ...
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 4 October 2013 22: 39 New
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            Joint Wehrmacht and Red Army parade in Brest (1939)
            1. chehywed
              chehywed 5 October 2013 00: 51 New
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              Quote: Alex 241
              Joint Wehrmacht and Red Army parade in Brest (1939)

              The video is interesting ... And where is the joint parade?
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 5 October 2013 00: 55 New
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                Vladimir welcome, on TUBE there is still a video, but under Nazi marches, breaks such spread. The joint parade of the Wehrmacht and the Red Army in Brest (1939) enter in the search.
                1. chehywed
                  chehywed 5 October 2013 01: 05 New
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                  Alexander, mutually. Entered. Not one video pulls on joint parade, well, unless really want see it.
                  1. chehywed
                    chehywed 5 October 2013 01: 26 New
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                    Damn your division. Kidding me ...
            2. Shogun23
              Shogun23 5 October 2013 02: 12 New
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              Cool to the article removed, if you do not know, and do not pay attention to some details, then you might think the truth is a joint parade.
        3. Dezzed
          Dezzed 5 October 2013 17: 55 New
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          Dear, it seems to me that we are all the same on the one side of the barricade.

          you just do not share between the Soviet people and the Communist Party which took power.
          I don’t attack the people, their own honor. But I’m angry with the Communist Party.
        4. old man54
          old man54 5 October 2013 19: 22 New
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          Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
          Listen to the dear DezzeD, looking at your attempts, sometimes you want to regret that not all individual stupid individuals, the German fascists drove into the gas chambers

          good good drinks
    3. svp67
      svp67 4 October 2013 22: 12 New
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      And in addition ...
      1. svp67
        svp67 4 October 2013 22: 53 New
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        Units of the Polish 10-th horse-rifle regiment of the 10-th mechanized brigade are preparing for the solemn parade in front of the regiment commander over the end of Operation Zaluzhie (occupation of Czechoslovak territories).
      2. svp67
        svp67 4 October 2013 22: 55 New
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        Handshakes of Polish and Hungarian officers at a train in occupied Czechoslovakia.
      3. svp67
        svp67 4 October 2013 22: 56 New
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        Wedges of the Hungarian occupation forces of Italian production Fiat-Ansaldo CV-35 enter the streets of the Czechoslovak city of Khust.

        After Slovakia declared independence on March 14, 1939, and Czechoslovakia disintegrated under pressure from Hitler, Hungary received permission from Germany to occupy part of Slovakia - Subcarpathian Rus. On March 15, the Prime Minister of Subcarpathian Russia, Augustin Voloshin, proclaimed the independence of the Carpathian Ukraine, which was not recognized by other states. On March 16, 1939, the Hungarian troops launched an assault on Khust, which took the 24th Hungarian border guards battalion and the 12th scooter battalion, and captured the city.
      4. svp67
        svp67 4 October 2013 22: 58 New
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        The Poles carry the Czechoslovak border pillar torn out of the ground with the Czechoslovak coat of arms destroyed. Teshin.
  5. Selevc
    Selevc 4 October 2013 13: 53 New
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    Well - and why are the Poles and Hungarians better than Hitler's Germany? Themselves as a flock of rats attacked to tear Czechoslovakia to pieces .... And now from whom too much stink? If the USSR is an aggressor - then the aggressors and Poland and Hungary - but for some reason it is not customary to recall this ...
    1. BBM
      BBM 4 October 2013 14: 09 New
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      100% here is an interesting quote from Lurk about this.
      the capture and partition of one of the states described in the book by aggressive neighbors, in theory, was presented by the author as an allusion to the partition of Poland in 1939 by the USSR and Germany, but when Sapkovsky himself arrived in Prague, local fans thanked him for the allegorically described in the book the partition of Czechoslovakia that happened in 1938 by Germany and Poland (but people who know, running across with Pan Andrzej on the phrase “I have brought peace for an entire generation”, identify the reference very accurately).
      1. smile
        smile 4 October 2013 20: 12 New
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        BBM
        And he is a great writer. I just forgot that we liberated OUR lands they had previously seized from the Poles, and did not share them with anyone.
        1. corn
          corn 4 October 2013 22: 02 New
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          Warsaw was also a province of the Russian Empire, you can also recall Alaska and much more in the world, and in modern Russia.
          They took it because the health man was gone, they gave it away, it would be possible to take someone else's, they would take it.
          That's all the excuses, and everything else is from the evil one.
          1. smile
            smile 4 October 2013 22: 31 New
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            corn
            Tell me, are you intentionally telling a lie, or simply do not understand? Silenok in the year 45, we had enough of the European to attach. Moreover, some expressed a desire to join us. So what? Have taken?
            Only the territories inhabited by non-Poles, where they pursued a reorganization policy, were torn away from the aggressive Polish state, which pursued an aggressive policy against us and built grandiose plans to dismember the USSR.
            Baltic States, Finland (also preparing to seize our territory in a coalition war) are the lands bought and partly recaptured from the same Poland and Sweden, as a result of the unleashed but lost wars. There was no smell of statehood there. These wearers arose only at the request of the Entente, who wanted to weaken us.

            Your game of objectivity brings you to direct slander against the USSR and RI. I hope this is not intentional, but due to ignorance of the history of your country.
            1. Shogun23
              Shogun23 5 October 2013 03: 22 New
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              Quote: smile
              Only the territories inhabited by non-Poles, where they pursued a reorganization policy, were torn away from the aggressive Polish state, which pursued an aggressive policy against us and built grandiose plans to dismember the USSR.

              It is worth mentioning here that having torn away some territories, they have joined others, which will be more valuable than western Ukraine and Belarus.
    2. Ka-52
      Ka-52 4 October 2013 14: 15 New
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      So the article says hyenas!
  6. Shogun23
    Shogun23 4 October 2013 15: 06 New
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    When they write in the West that the partition of Czechoslovakia "postponed the war and allowed the democratic countries to prepare for it," then for some reason they do not remember that in '38, Czechoslovakia was quite capable of withstanding the blow of the then German army, firstly due to its line of defense " Benes line ", secondly, for its high-quality weapons. This was quite enough to maintain the independence of Czechoslovakia until the moment when the USSR and France came to their aid, but alas, the Poles, Romanians and Hungarians would not have allowed the Red Army into their territory.

    And as a result, the entire defense line, with all the weapons, as well as most of the Czechoslovak industry passed to the Germans absolutely without a fight, and this allowed Germany to further build up its Armed Forces, but with the help of the strong industrial potential of Czechoslovakia, and adopting their equipment. So who got more from the fact that the war was "delayed" by almost a year? In my opinion, the events of 1939-1940 give an unequivocal answer.
    1. The centurion
      The centurion 4 October 2013 17: 02 New
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      Quote: Shogun23
      When they write in the West that the partition of Czechoslovakia "postponed the war and allowed the democratic countries to prepare for it," then for some reason they do not remember that in '38, Czechoslovakia was quite capable of withstanding the blow of the then German army, firstly due to its line of defense " Benes line ", secondly, for its high-quality weapons. This was quite enough to maintain the independence of Czechoslovakia until the moment when the USSR and France came to their aid, but alas, the Poles, Romanians and Hungarians would not have allowed the Red Army into their territory.


      Do not make innocent lamb from the Czechs. The Czechs themselves are great masters of European divorce. They met Germans in 1938 with flowers. Then the Czechs had more tanks and aircraft than the Wehrmacht, but the Czechs did not render any resistance, they all resignedly gave to the Germans. Then the whole war on them plowed in good faith, every fifth tank or Wehrmacht armored vehicle was of Czechoslovak production. Moreover, the technique was very crappy, especially the T-38. It got to the point that in 1943, German tank generals refused to fight in Czech tanks. Then the Czechs asked the Germans for astronomical amounts for the reconstruction of their plants in order to produce new tanks. The Germans did not have such money. They made a Solomon decision to make less shitty Czech self-propelled guns instead of shitty Czech tanks. This is for the Czechs. It is better to have such enemies than allies. And the Czechs rebelled, and the policemen and other collaborators, only at the very end of the war, so as not to fall under the distribution. One word, the Czechs are a classic European prostitute, and they are very proud of it, calling it their national character. In general, for this long-term prostitution, they did not have anything after the war, and the Slovaks, who fought for the Germans throughout the war, but fussed with the uprising a little earlier, the Allies even unfastened a piece of Hungary. But the coolest Romanians. After the complete defeat of their army in the Yassy-Kishinev operation, they went over to our side and allegedly fought with the Germans. For this, their king, Mihai, even received the Order of Victory, while the Allies of Romania untied Transylvania, which is half of Hungary. While working in Romania and traveling to Hungary, he himself saw how the Hungarians fiercely hate the Romanians for this, because they were quite frank with the Russians. Someday it will fire.
      1. Shogun23
        Shogun23 5 October 2013 02: 11 New
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        And nowhere did I protect Chekhov, the fact that the uprising of 45 was a farce, so everyone understands, moreover, I wrote that Czechoslovakia simply COULD resist the Germans. In general, Czech equipment, both tanks and guns, at the time of 38-39 were among the best, this is evidenced by at least the fact that they are the only trophy vehicles produced for the needs of Germany. And the fact that the Wehrmacht abandoned them in 43 is not surprising, and the Red Army also began to abandon light tanks this year (primarily from Lend-Lease tanks). There, in the Czech Republic, competitors were developed for the project of future "panthers".
        Yes, and self-propelled guns were no longer Czech, but German (primarily "hunters" and "marders")
  7. Shogun23
    Shogun23 4 October 2013 15: 08 New
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    And for Poland, the partition of Czechosloakia was far from the only sin, in the 20s and 30s. And when they reproach the USSR and Russia for anything, it is clear from them that they do not know the history of their country, well, or know "superficially"
  8. Djozz
    Djozz 4 October 2013 16: 00 New
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    Let it seem a rough trace of the expression, but it perfectly suits Western "historians", "Own D.E.R.MO., does not stink!"
  9. crasever
    crasever 4 October 2013 16: 46 New
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    The "old Europeans" of Munich -38 are a little shy, leaving all the propaganda noise to the "victims of the Soviet occupation" of the Young Europeans, who paved the way for the creation of the then EU, albeit by not at all democratic methods ...
  10. omsbon
    omsbon 4 October 2013 16: 58 New
    +4
    The Hyena of Europe, as W. Churchill called Poland non-diplomatically,


    Churchill was able to say accurately and beautifully!
  11. Ulysses
    Ulysses 4 October 2013 18: 11 New
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    Quote: DezzeD
    one more from there

    German generalsincluding Heinz Guderian (far right) consult with battalion commissar Borovensky in Brest.

    I haven’t neigh for a long time. belay laughing
    The battalion commissar explains to the commanding officers of German divisions and corps how to establish political and educational work in the troops ??
    There Goebbels in the far corner with a notebook lurked. wink
    1. Djozz
      Djozz 4 October 2013 18: 26 New
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      You look at the DezzeD checkbox!
    2. corn
      corn 4 October 2013 22: 09 New
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      At the same time, laugh at the handshake of the German colonel and the Polish marshal. The difference in rank is about the same.
  12. chehywed
    chehywed 4 October 2013 23: 03 New
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    Quote: Author Yuri Rubtsov
    Gathering on September 29 in Munich, Hitler, Mussolini, Chamberlain and Daladier ordered the Czechoslovak government to transfer Germany to Germany within ten days about 75% of its territory Czechoslovakia was losing a quarter of the population, about half of the heavy industry, powerful fortifications on the border with Germany, whose new line now actually rested on the outskirts of Prague
    .
    29 – 30 September 1938 there was a historic meeting in Munich. The delegation of Czechoslovakia was not allowed to negotiate, having been invited only to sign the final act. According to him, Czechoslovakia was losing a quarter of the territory and population, at least a third of its industry. Its borders actually remained bare. The only country that vigorously protested against this turn of events was the Soviet Union. But Benesh himself had previously refused his help. For which he paid.
    http://www.belvpo.com/ru/30246.html
    Yura, do not distort.
  13. sergey1972
    sergey1972 5 October 2013 01: 54 New
    +1
    the article is good, but not very deeply, the author told us about Poland and the reasons for the seizure of Czechoslovakia.
    Czechoslovakia was not torn to pieces by Germany to appease Hitler’s appetites, but just so that his appetites would grow and his eyes would fall firmly on the USSR, since Czechoslovakia had a very good economy at that time: factories, factories, etc. mainly worked for the military industry. With the capture of Czechoslovakia, Hitler received an excellent military-industrial complex. Well, and, as you know, the capture of other European countries was also connected not just with the capture of the territory, but with the military-economic goal (not to mention Poland, since its territory was just needed here).
    As for the Polish hyena of Europe, as you know, it was historically hostile to Russia and at that time was a highly militarized state that offered its services to Hitler to jointly capture not only Czechoslovakia, but also hoped and offered Hitler to attack together to the USSR. Under such conditions, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was a great victory for Soviet diplomacy. We won time and delayed the war approaching us, which we did not need, since the USSR was on an economic upswing.