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Witness of the era. Oleg Poptsov: “In 90-s we made a madness, we made a revolution”

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Witness of the era. Oleg Poptsov: “In 90-s we made a madness, we made a revolution”Oleg Poptsov, the first head of the Rossiya channel created in 1990, once was a member of the inner circle of Yeltsin and Gaidar. He knows all the major milestones, facts and circumstances of that troubled time - the collapse of the USSR and the emergence of a new Russian state.


- Oleg Maksimovich, in the first post-Soviet years you were close with the highest authority of the country. How do you evaluate that period in the life of our state?

- Often used phrase - "hope dies last." What is she in my understanding? The man is very hard to say goodbye to hope. Unfulfilled hopes greatly hurt him. The 90 were years of just such unfulfilled hopes.

Those years were accompanied by a breakthrough in an imperious environment of an incredible number of non-professionals. And devoid of any moral, ethical and even aesthetic restrictions.

Many democrats of that time still remember my words, said after leaving the meeting of the I Congress of Deputies: “I have never seen such a large number of non-professionals gathered in one hall”.

They made a depressing impression. These people have never been in power. They did not have the skills, the skills of this business, no understanding of what laws are and how to write them.

My colleague on the Peasant Party, its leader, Yuri Chernichenko, had at one time argued with me: well, they used to be professionals, but they didn’t do a damn thing - they didn’t take off even a breakthrough. So let them, they say, now non-professionals will try!

- But then, long-time opponents will object to you, then democracy was established in the country ...

- Yeltsin was never a democrat, this is wrongly attributed to him. He was forced to join the democratic movement, for he really wanted to be a great power. As a person who understood Yeltsin very well, it was easy for me to understand all his “unpredictability”, fed by fantasies about Charles de Gaulle. It was the latter who was considered to be such an unpredictable president in the world, and Yeltsin enjoyed it very much in his time.

So about the democracy of Yeltsin ... He reluctantly went to this democratic front, starting with membership in the "Interregional Group". Sakharov died, and the Democrats urgently needed a new leader. Therefore, with some joy, they accepted into their ranks the disgraced, rebellious Yeltsin.

The same simply had no team. He could not rely on someone from Gorbachev’s entourage - in view of the serious contact with Gorbachev. And even mutual hostility, which passed into its extreme state - hatred.

There was practically no one to take with him from the capital's office - after, as one might say, he had defiantly betrayed him, the former Moscow party leader, the apparatus.

I was present at that “historical” party plenum of the 1987, where, in front of Gorbachev, Yeltsin publicly denounced this apparatus. All this was unbearable even for the general secretary to see, and he could not stand it, said irritably: “Enough!”

Your humble servant has closely acquainted you with the young reformers Gaidar, Burbulis and other Yeltsin. With Gaidar at the end of 80, we were tied up with work in the “green movement”, created largely thanks to the magazine “Rural Youth”, in which I was the chief editor.

Then one day Yeltsin, turning to me, asked: well, they say, how is this, Gaidar? I answered about the following: as a preacher, propagandist, popularizer of ideas is extremely talented. Formed, erudite, especially in economic matters. But as an organizer - zero.

“And now the moment came when the young reformers changed the previous Russian government of Silayev ...”
- Yeltsin then invited Gaidar to himself, talked with him and offered him the post of acting prime minister.
Upon his return from the Kremlin, he met me in his office with the following words: “Oleg, you know, now was with Boris Nikolayevich ... The conversation lasted 25 minutes. And he offered me the post of prime minister ... Oleg, it's not serious. "


So Yeltsin, leaning on these young reformers, began to build a "new Russia". By his character, he was absolutely Russian, with all, as they say in such cases, the attendant pros and cons.

But he didn’t have an understanding of economics at all, and he, as if spellbound, listened when Chubais and Gaidar spoke.

35-year-olds have reached the pinnacle of power, which cannot be allowed in Russia. After all, we have life experience for being in power - traditionally the defining criterion and, if you will, the motive. Russian man is so arranged.

In general, Yeltsin’s efforts in the field of personnel renewal were only enough to fill this federal-government "capacity".

Forces on personnel changes in the field is not left, there were still all those who led, managed in Soviet times. And their average age was not 35 or even 40 years, but at best 55. Naturally, the province grumbled: "Are we going to listen to these boys ?!"

That is why reforms were so hard. And this is why they did not have allies. But not only therefore, of course.

Of those who carried out these reforms, the most gifted was Anatoly Chubais. Strong organizer. But at the same time - neo-Bolshevik, professing the principle: "He who is not with us is against us." He and all his associates in the government were, in fact, managers, and the “management” of the whole country began with their efforts.

Well, what is a manager in our conditions? Specialist in sales organization. But after all, in order to organize the sale of something, it is necessary to produce this “something”. And the young reformers had nothing to do with the production.

Gaidar first appeared in the factory floor, when he began to act as prime minister. All these guys with PhDs who came from scientific laboratories did not have any knowledge of the Russian mentality at all. First of all, because of youth.

At one time, Vitaly Ignatenko told me: “You understand what's the matter: people with higher education came to power, but without secondary education.” All right

In December, at the Congress of People’s Deputies, 92 conducted rating votes on the premier’s candidacy. And when Yeltsin was asked sharp, impartial questions about his pet Gaidar, the president suddenly said: "But he's smart."

It was a terrible scene, because the hall burst out laughing. I then involuntarily thought: “God, where have I gone. Well, yes, Gaidar is really not stupid. But in the mouth of the president this is more than a naive assessment. Anyway, what to say: but look, what a beautiful tie he has. ”

I repeat, Yeltsin was fascinated by the speech of Gaidar and Chubais. He believed them. In the end, because of this blind faith, the economy of a gigantic country was destroyed. And the collapse of the economy, in turn, spawned widespread, total disbelief.

- Your relations with Yeltsin and Gaydarovtsy, apparently, began to deteriorate in the middle of 90-x. What caused these "stylistic differences"?

- Those that I just said - a significant difference in worldview. They were offended when I began to criticize them on RTR. They could not forgive me for this.

At one of the meetings with the press, Yeltsin asked me: “Why do you, my television, criticize me?” I then answered him: “Boris Nikolayevich, when the authorities make obvious mistakes, their assessment by the allies and opponents is the same. And the mistakes are really obvious. ”

Years later, I told Gaidar and his closest supporters: “Guys, understand, the energy of repentance in Russia is enormous energy. If you say: fellow citizens, we have made a lot of mistakes, we admit it, but believe in the sincerity of our ideas, give us a chance to embody our intentions - then people will look at you completely differently. ”

Before Yeltsin’s last address to the people, Yeltsin had a rating of 5 – 6%. But when he said, “Forgive me,” overnight, this rating went up to 28 – 30%. For a Russian person repentance is a great thing.

And what did Gaidar say about this? If, say, we admit our mistakes, then we will show weakness, the Communists will take advantage of this and come to power.

I tried to object to him: “This is not a weakness, Egor! On the contrary, you show strength. Communists will never come to power. They are bad politicians. Although you, frankly, the policy is very bad. Today you are cursing and cursing the Soviet government, but soon they will curse and curse you in the same way. ”

Recently I saw Chubais in the Posner program. They argued about the results of privatization. They brought a lot of all sorts of different arguments "for" and "against." And finally, Chubais could not stand it and said something like: “Come on, this is not the point. Unfair she was - that's the main problem! "

Wow, the man saw the light in two decades! Section, razul country and for once saw the light! Of course, this privatization was a cruel blow, a backlash. Its consequences have just led to the fact that the once proclaimed democracy collapsed.

Because democratic reforms merged with economic reforms, and the latter failed miserably. But, after all, the people do not divide and are absolutely not obliged to divide: where is democracy, and where is robber privatization. “Fuck you with your democracy!” Says the people. And he is right in his own way.

In 90, we made a frenzy, we made a revolution. After all, how does a revolution differ from evolution? The first completely neglects the past. Evolution is a relay race. And if private property was destroyed in 1917, then state property was destroyed in 90. The cases are very similar. Consequently, the results are almost the same.

Why do we live like this, why do we have little work? Our society has not stood the test of individualism.

It has always been collective. The Soviet system was based on collectivity. The Bolsheviks were by no means stupid when they appealed to conciliarism, to Minin and Pozharsky, the people's militia.

After all, this collectivity-catholicity is inherent in the Russian person organically. Therefore, the Bolsheviks won with the collective farms and with other undertakings. The fists were reputed to be the most capable business executives, but were programmed for capitalist individualism, and they were swept away.

“A little more than half a century later, they dared collectivity with collegiality ...”

- Yes it is. But everything is relative and everything has its price. Individualism at its best is the revelation of the possibilities of the individual. And the summation, the aggregate of the “revealed” personalities, in theory, should contribute to the breakthrough of society on the path of development.

But when it is not prepared for this, and every person lives according to the principle “my hut is on the edge, mine is the main thing,” everything in the state is derailed. Therefore, our capitalism is gangster, thieving, and has nothing to do with classical capitalism.

And at the same time, his advocates, like 20 years ago, continue the same song: private property is more efficient, more useful than state property, it fully justifies itself, gives impulses to development, and so on.

Nothing like this! With all its flaws, only state property has contributed to and promotes economic development in our country even now, and now it does.

“But what about America?” - ask. Well, in America, the state and society were built not twenty years, but “several” more.

In the US, there is a unifying idea, very simple and understandable to everyone: America is above all. You are driving through the American desert and see: in the middle of it is a small house and an American flag flying above it. This is the incarnated unifying idea.

We did not have such a stronghold, and everything collapsed.

Having destroyed the previous society, we parted ways with the idea of ​​uniting people. Disunity is incredible. Even the “irreconcilable opposition” of the former Democrats under the rule of the authorities is not able to unite, hopelessly getting sick of our homegrown individualism.

This factor, in my opinion, played the most crucial role in the transformation of our state in the 90-s.

- You touched the gangster nature of our early capitalism. How important is this aspect to the characteristics of that era?

- He is dominant, decisive. Primary capital accumulation is connected, as is well known, with the criminalization of society. With this simple thought, I somehow turned to Yeltsin. Was, if I'm not mistaken, 92-th year.

I suggested: we must immediately create a commission under the leadership of the president to combat corruption and criminality. He said that if we do not do this, the country will be on the verge of a catastrophe, because in the background of each political party there will be a criminal world.

So it happened. Why did the Bolsheviks take power? Because they formed their cells in the underground, which provided them with better organization. The criminals are all underground and organized brilliantly.

Democrats naively believed that democracy is their property. But democracy is a habitat, it belongs to everyone. And the best will always be able to take advantage of its opportunities the most organized.

It is useful to recall another mantra of young reformers: “Our support will be the middle class”. When Gaidar was told: “Egor, we have a middle class — these are teachers, doctors, engineers of the military-industrial complex and other industries,” he replied grimly and grimaced, “This is not the middle class, these are dependents. The middle class is a small business. ”

That's just the formation of a new class need a minimum of 10 – 15 years, and the creation of a criminal community - a maximum of 6 months.

- Today, sometimes the hosanna is sometimes sung by “free 90” ...

- Are you talking about the theses of Mr. Jurgens, neoliberalism, chatter about removing the state from managing the economy?

The crisis in this regard explained everything and showed. The Communists increased the rating because of this crisis. For it became clear to everyone that the withdrawal of the state from the economy leads to a catastrophe of the system. In the same America - everywhere state. It helped and helps private business.

By the way, what have we done this business? The owners of plants, factories and ships - what did they do? Immediately all the money brought abroad. And turned to the state for new money. State allocated. And they again transferred them abroad and placed them at interest. This is how gangster capitalism works in Russia.

It is therefore not surprising that, according to a sociological survey conducted by the RAS staff, only 9 percent of the country's population believes in the possibility of the country's development without state intervention in this development. The 91 percentage considers such elimination or withdrawal as erroneous.
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  1. AVV
    AVV 3 October 2013 13: 04
    +3
    Dermocrats, almost derailed the country! And Ukraine, that period of the Soviet Union did not teach anything !!!
    1. Mitek
      Mitek 3 October 2013 16: 02
      +8
      Quote: AVV
      Dermocrats, almost derailed the country! And Ukraine, that period of the Soviet Union did not teach anything !!!

      The whole history of the country was in the hands of one or two people .. If there were an officer who did not want collapse, or if he knew what would follow this whole thing ... History would go a different way. Of course, the subjunctive mood is a complicated thing, but it’s difficult to think of worse than the reign of the drunken nits and his mosquitoes.
      1. rinat1955
        rinat1955 3 October 2013 19: 06
        +5
        Ha ... there aren’t such officers, a month and a half ago the topic was dealt with about the GKChP, so in the comments a warrior blurted out, as I remember right now, here I’m a paratrooper, I’m crazy that I can defend my homeland without orders.
        You, modern warriors, special forces and others like them, to the Egyptian military as to the moon
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 3 October 2013 16: 25
      11
      One of the creators of the current oligarch-corruption Russia, Oleg Poptsov repented: "In the 90s, we allowed insanity, we made a revolution."
      As they say better late than never.
      But how can the situation in the state be rectified now, how can the consequences of the crimes of Yeltsin, Gaidar, Chubais and their accomplices be rectified, how, in particular, can one return to "state management of the economy"?
      The crisis on this subject explained and showed everything. ... For it became clear to everyone that the removal of the state from the economy leads to a disaster for the system. (from article)

      And the current leaders of Russia, Putin and Medvedev, still sing the mantras of the young reformers, which the state owner is inefficient and must be replaced by a private, in all sectors of the economy and not only sing, but continue to sell state property in private hands, although 91% of the population consider this elimination or self-removal to be erroneous.
      1. mark7
        mark7 3 October 2013 19: 39
        +3
        Quote: vladimirZ
        That's just how now to fix the situation in the state,

        Unfortunately, our grandfathers could no longer fix millions of lives for indiscriminate sovereignty, so it will not work bloodlessly, but it’s a pity that all this EBN quarreled with a hunchback and climbed into a tank, I thought that the country should be managed like a collective farm in the Urals
        1. 225chay
          225chay 4 October 2013 08: 11
          +2
          Quote: mark7
          EBN had a fight with a hunchback and climbed onto a tank, I thought that the country should be controlled like a collective farm in the Urals

          This and even a small collective farmer could not lead, would have collapsed overnight. In essence, a destroyer!
      2. luka095
        luka095 4 October 2013 02: 16
        +3
        This is not like repentance. To listen to him, he gave smart, prophetic advice to Yeltsin, but they were not heeded ... Therefore, nothing happened with the reforms. And if you had listened to him, Poptsov, everything would have turned out ... And these tales are told by a man who made a lot of efforts to provide information for all these "reforms".
        Thanks to Andrey Efremov for this material. Article "plus". Although it was possible to have a sharper conversation with Poptsov. And then right before our eyes, so to speak, they are rewriting history ...
        1. BBM
          BBM 4 October 2013 04: 48
          -1
          Quote: luka095
          To listen to him, he gave smart, prophetic advice to Yeltsin, but they did not heed ... Therefore, nothing happened with the reforms. And if you had listened to him, Poptsov, everything would have turned out ... And these tales are told by a man who made a lot of efforts to provide information for all these "reforms

          100%. outright nonsense. Such articles do not belong on this site.
    3. Homo
      Homo 3 October 2013 17: 19
      +1
      Quote: AVV
      Dermocrats, almost derailed the country! And Ukraine, that period of the Soviet Union did not teach anything !!!

      The clever one, having seen the step on the rake, will understand everything, and the d.u.s.
    4. Airman
      Airman 3 October 2013 23: 37
      +4
      It was not we who made the revolution, but Muscovites who supported EBaNatik, and you can’t blame everything on the people, because they did not ask him, and ... they supported the referendum on dissolution of the USSR.
    5. 225chay
      225chay 4 October 2013 08: 08
      0
      Quote: AVV
      Dermocrats, almost derailed the country! And Ukraine, that period of the Soviet Union did not teach anything !!!

      All the "figures" listed in this article are the destroyers of the country ...
      and what they understood or not really does not matter.
      On good terms, the criminal article "for treason" and "collapse of the state" with execution should be used.
  2. riding
    riding 3 October 2013 15: 22
    19
    In Stalin's time, many 35–40 year olds came to power. And they did a good job, and they were directly responsible.
    Under Yeltsin, it was not that Gaidar was young, but a high percentage of people in power who betrayed both the people and the country. And Yeltsin will remain a villain in history.
    1. Witch
      Witch 3 October 2013 15: 48
      +4
      I can not agree with you in full.
      The key in your opinion is "and the responsibility was borne directly." All the troubles are that the state has withdrawn itself and does not punish those responsible. Impunity brings a new, wider round and so on ad infinitum.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 3 October 2013 16: 25
        +3
        Quote: Witch
        . Impunity brings an ever new, wider round and so on to infinity.

        There is a good saying "Impunity breeds lawlessness" I do not remember who it belongs to, but what they did to the country characterizes exactly.
    2. Witch
      Witch 3 October 2013 15: 58
      0
      I can not agree with you in full.
      The key in your opinion is "and the responsibility was borne directly." All the troubles are that the state has withdrawn itself and does not punish those responsible. Impunity brings a new, wider round and so on ad infinitum.
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 3 October 2013 15: 23
    +8
    I still have two Volgas, one I drive, and the other is in reserve, in the garage. Thanks to Chubais good
    1. DJEIN8
      DJEIN8 3 October 2013 20: 45
      +1
      Uncle Lee 15:23
      It is a pity that there is no way to measure the number of ... ESTONIES ... and the like
      one, grateful to the Chubais and the like, for the presence of two "Volgas" in the garage and
      to the material assets that had fallen to them with the complete loss of HUMAN CONTENT.
      .....
    2. Airman
      Airman 3 October 2013 23: 43
      +1
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      I still have two Volgas, one I drive, and the other is in reserve, in the garage. Thanks to Chubais good

      Vladimir, your "humor" is clearly not understood. I also have 3 Volga, but for now, like a relic, lie in a box. And the parents were left with a bunch of USSR loan bonds that were never repaid.
  4. Denga
    Denga 3 October 2013 15: 34
    +8
    Well, it took only a couple of decades for an adult to "see clearly"
    1. DJEIN8
      DJEIN8 3 October 2013 20: 25
      +4
      Denja 15:34
      Who do you call a man, one of the scum who brewed all this abomination
      under no matter what name ... ???
      This vile, inhuman abomination is not and will not be forgiveness, such no time
      ago ... Let him shut up his repentance you know where .........
      To mutilate the lives of tens of millions, and after that still open your pass.
      I introduced this drunk, who was thinking only about himself, to Gaidar, thereby starting
      this is nothing ... and now .....
      I do not know who created MANKIND, but he did not do the most important thing ....
      So that those whom he tried to make ICE with the absence of HUMAN
      QUALITIES would die, as in the absence of a HEART ........
      ONLY with SUCH DEPENDENCE one could hope for ... LIFE on Earth and not
      to the horror that the planet and all the rest on it were doomed to
      in stock...
  5. avt
    avt 3 October 2013 15: 36
    10
    request Well, h ... Lee! Why did this failed "engineer of human souls" crawl out? Again, he wanted to excite the minds and burn hearts with a verb ?? ??? How did these Shvonder-intellectuals get am Messiahs are fucking, only they can sing songs sorely belching with gluttony about the fact that “hard years pass in the struggle for the freedom of the country, others come for them, they will also be difficult.”
  6. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 3 October 2013 15: 38
    0
    muddy time was ..
    1. sub307
      sub307 3 October 2013 15: 42
      +3
      Yes, and this day, "visibility" has increased a little.
  7. Jarilo
    Jarilo 3 October 2013 15: 51
    +3
    This word is so long in use that we do not give it the meaning that was originally:
    Democracy (dr. Greek δημοκρατία - “power of the people”, from δῆμος - “people” and κράτος - “power”).
    In market conditions, when everything is sold and bought, the real power of those who have concentrated capital. In the time of Yeltsin, these were oligarchs, i.e. power of the oligarchs - oligocracy. Now the bureaucracy has capital, i.e. Bureaucracy. And for the people, shows with producers - bureaucrats and directors - watered by technologists.
    1. polly
      polly 3 October 2013 16: 01
      +4
      Hence the simple and understandable definition of democracy: democracy is not the power of the people, democracy is when the democrats are in power! smile
      1. Jarilo
        Jarilo 3 October 2013 16: 08
        +2
        Sovereigns of the people?
      2. Airman
        Airman 3 October 2013 23: 47
        +1
        Quote: polly
        Hence the simple and understandable definition of democracy: democracy is not the power of the people, democracy is when the democrats are in power! smile

        The last word should be written like that - DEMOKR.ATY.
    2. Proud.
      Proud. 3 October 2013 16: 54
      +5
      Quote: Jarilo
      This word is so long in use that we do not give it the meaning that was originally

      Exactly cunning, this concept is Democracy. People in Rome were divided into DEMOS and OHLOS. DEMOS-free Citizens who have the right to elect and be elected, as well as to have weapons. OHLOS- (for example, ancient Rome) slaves, not free people, without the right to vote, without the right to have and bear arms. To choose us (ordinary, free Citizens, we have the right), and to be elected .., a big question. We do not have the right to carry weapons. For these two signs, we not DEMOS, but ... So it turns out that we have OCHLOCRACY (Almost a joke).
  8. patriot2
    patriot2 3 October 2013 15: 52
    +3
    I heard another "major economist", so he said that in Russia there will be enough national wealth (mineral resources, forests and factories? With factories?) For another 50 years !?
    Here, squanders inherited from mother nature and that created by generations ...
    Where is the real ruler of Russia ???
  9. olegst
    olegst 3 October 2013 15: 52
    +4
    "In the 90s, we allowed insanity, we made a revolution," the emphasis is not true, the object and subject were rearranged: In the 90s, we committed insanity and made a revolution. " But essentially all is true. The homeland should give an assessment to its heroes and scoundrels, at least posthumously, placing them on opposite sides.
  10. olegst
    olegst 3 October 2013 15: 52
    0
    "In the 90s, we allowed insanity, we made a revolution," the emphasis is not true, the object and subject were rearranged: In the 90s, we committed insanity and made a revolution. " But essentially all is true. The homeland should give an assessment to its heroes and scoundrels, at least posthumously, placing them on opposite sides.
  11. Strashila
    Strashila 3 October 2013 15: 57
    11
    Yes, not the revolution you committed, but treason.
  12. nemec55
    nemec55 3 October 2013 16: 01
    +2
    In short, an article about creeping reptiles and minus it not for the content but for these parasites.
  13. polly
    polly 3 October 2013 16: 03
    +4
    Oh, weathervanes, you political weathervanes! Now it’s easy to disown alcoholics, it’s even profitable, but when, during the euphoria of the reign of the beautiful-faced EBN, Goryacheva opposed her, because she almost ate her!
    1. polly
      polly 3 October 2013 16: 38
      +2
      Many, like Mr. Poptsov, now it turns out, were "disagreeing", and when they were on the wave - that's all oh, hey, that's why their name is - a weather vane! And I on my own skin, as they say, experienced the popular love of such incomprehensible, at first, I was almost beaten in line at the store, just because the loud aunt, fans of EBN, said: "Do you know what a market economy is? Have you read his election platform?" And then, when the cock pecked in the ass, one of these passionaries called me: "Let's go to a rally against Yeltsin and the government!" fool
      My answer was easy to predict! Now everyone understood everything, they were mistaken, and it’s true not to be hanged by the deceived ... It would be better, but my country would stand!
      1. dmb
        dmb 3 October 2013 20: 02
        +4
        Most importantly, the "repentant" Poptsov is not at all going to return to the treasury everything that he stole with the help of his then benefactors. So that all his confessions are made in case if tomorrow all the same to him and other trash like Burbulis, Shumeiko, Rybkin, Shakhrai remember all that. what they did to the country.
      2. BBM
        BBM 4 October 2013 04: 57
        0
        By the way, the majority, now online, are the same weathervanes. look for fashion you know. Where the wind has changed there too.
  14. andrei332809
    andrei332809 3 October 2013 16: 11
    +3
    they messed up, messed up, and now they’re getting rid of it, it’s not me, I said correctly, but they didn’t listen to me. okay, contemporaries about these "democrats" have made their own opinion, I think, and the court of history will not be favorable to them.
    my personal opinion is scoundrels and cowards.
    1. corn
      corn 4 October 2013 03: 31
      0
      "messed up, screwed up"
      And we all stood aside.
      Do not take personally to your account, I do not know.
      Sincerely.
    2. 225chay
      225chay 4 October 2013 08: 28
      +1
      Quote: andrei332809
      the opinion was, I think, and the court of history will not be favorable to them.
      my personal opinion is scoundrels and cowards.

      Scum and villains - this is the softest thing that you can stick to them. Traitors are traitors, enemies of the Russian people!
  15. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 3 October 2013 16: 12
    +3
    Quote: Strashila
    Yes, not the revolution you committed, but treason.

    I completely agree. Those who did not think about their homeland came to power, but thought about how to grab as much as possible and hold on to power in order to still snatch.
  16. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 3 October 2013 16: 12
    +2
    from the Don.
    Having removed their head, they do not cry through their hair!
  17. avt
    avt 3 October 2013 16: 24
    +4
    Quote: borisjdin1957
    Having removed their head, they do not cry through their hair!

    He's not crying! His passion is like hunting back to television to steer! He was given a third button under the butt with a knee, he wrote the Chronicle of the Times of Tsar Boris with frustration, he began to see laughing And now he’s driving a sting - but how lucky, Shahrai has settled down near Naryshkin, and this one also wants to steer.
  18. Russ69
    Russ69 3 October 2013 16: 39
    +3
    They began to consider themselves guilty of something, but the desire to steer further did not diminish nifig. Apparently they feel a little guilty about themselves, I still want to ...
  19. Very old
    Very old 3 October 2013 16: 50
    +3
    I'll start in order:
    1. "Yeltsin was never a democrat" - He was. Once he came to us, sitting in a prominent place, banging his fist on the table: I will teach you to love communism, tram-tararam
    2. "Chubais-Neo-Bolshevik"
    I call such hoopoes (for myself): DEMO Bolshevik, they have, you see the principle: who is not with us, etc.
    3. The author: "the essence is the Gaidars and Chubais are the destroyers of the economy of a giant country" Here in this statement of the author - both the salt of truth and our bitterness
    4. The author: "Chubais has seen his sight ..." Dear author, have you looked into his shameless eyes for a long time? And on whose conscience Sayano-Shushenskaya? Volga has always been one for all. Volga-mother. We don't need two


    5. "The gangster character of our early capitalism ..."
    In our country (sorry, in the state is not the same thing) it will always be like that. There are no laws. Those that are, are not executed, because there are laws for some categories of citizens, there are for others. And then even zilch
    Further into the forest, more and more firewood. "You'd better cut wood for coffins ..."
  20. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 3 October 2013 17: 16
    +3
    The crimes of the Yeltsin team will be rightly condemned by history. This is unconditional. What Chubais, Gaidar and the company did to the Russian people will be condemned at their true worth. But this is not easier for the people. Thrown into the swamp of reforms by the young "reformers", the people are still sitting in this swamp. It is surprising that after so many years of the destruction of the Russian economy, Chubais is once again allowed in state funds, squandering them without creating anything worthwhile! We poor Russians ...
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 3 October 2013 19: 24
      +3
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      It is surprising that after so many years of the destruction of the Russian economy, Chubais is once again allowed in state funds, squandering them without creating anything worthwhile! We poor Russians ...
  21. Alex66
    Alex66 3 October 2013 17: 17
    +1
    “Guys, understand, the energy of repentance in Russia is a tremendous energy. If you say: fellow citizens, we have made many mistakes, admit it, but believe in the sincerity of our ideas, give us a chance to realize our ideas, then people will look at you completely differently. ”
    If Putin had repented (This trick would not work with DAMA) and would have taken several correct steps, which were written about at the forum, his rating would have taken off and the people would have followed him.
  22. Altona
    Altona 3 October 2013 18: 04
    +3
    Yeltsin, of course, was a great charisma, but he did not personify the state, there was no sovereignty in his actions, current sovereignty also does not ... So, Putin skips something, and the fact that his opponents in the West do not catch mice as politicians and he has some Soviet school ... Only Stalin was a full-fledged monarch, he personified the state completely and completely, which is why he has so many fans and will have them for another 100 years to come ... Stalin was not a professional either, but he grew up , constantly improved, worked not only with the retinue, but almost with the lower classes, and did not consider it shameful to communicate with anyone on the matter ... These are the features that people notice ...
  23. alekseyal
    alekseyal 3 October 2013 18: 49
    +4
    Yeltsin in his quest for power was the destroyer of the USSR. The Americans just used it, he was a puppet in the hands of the United States. Although he sometimes did squiggles (March-throw to Pristina).
    Unlike him, Gorbachev was not just a traitor, he was a recruited US agent. They led him from his youth, clearing his way to power.
    Gorbachev simply played a giveaway with Yeltsin, the play played by American directors in August 1991 ended in the death of the USSR.
    Gorbachev must be tried for treason. But the fifth column and the American agents in power still do not allow this to be done.
    About the trial of Gorbachev.
    http://nstarikov.ru/blog/29882
    1. konvalval
      konvalval 3 October 2013 22: 54
      0
      That's right for this he was awarded the Nobel Prize, and the EBN has nothing to do with the march-throw to Pristina.
  24. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 3 October 2013 18: 51
    +5
    Poptsov needs to be corrected. They committed not a revolution, but a counter-revolution, which was "preparing" from the day Gorbachev came to power. An artificial shortage was created in everything. Every year the shops are more deserted, but in the dumps in the forest (I saw myself) carcass, green smoked sausage and other products. Warehouses are overstocked, food is spoiling, one or two cars are delivered to the city, queues for everything, even for something that was a little earlier in abundance. The inaction of the authorities at almost all levels led the people to artificial poverty in the presence of money, especially in the late eighties. Gorbachev's continuous talking shop and lack of leadership skills (possibly direct destruction) led to disasters (Chernoble, explosion of trains with children, death of motor ships) Perestroika was popularly called "catastrophe". "Hostile" or foolishly hostile events in Georgia, Azerbaijan, Lithuania pushed the republics away from the Union. In foreign policy, the allies surrendered and began flirting with our potential opponents (to please the United States, the most modern missiles and other weapons were "cut". Such power gradually became alien to the people. And when the putsch came directly to Moscow, there was almost no one to defend such power, and those who defended those were simply shot by snipers from skyscrapers and other militants.The army did not act either, with the exception of some scum (with whom Gaidar urgently paid off after the putsch), although some still found a just and inglorious end in Chechnya.
    Although you, to be honest, politicians are very bad. Today you are reproaching and cursing the Soviet regime, but soon they will curse and curse you in the same way.

    Correctly stated in the article about the "young reformers" they not only did not understand what they were doing, but also deliberately destroyed the country together with the chronic alcoholic EBN, throwing the country for the sake of their pride into the "stone age". Some are still "reforming", destroying energy and nanotechnology.
    1. 225chay
      225chay 4 October 2013 08: 36
      0
      Quote: vlad.svargin
      Artificially created a deficit in everything. In stores, every year everything is deserted, but at dumps in the forest (I saw it myself), carcass, green smoked sausage and other products. Warehouses are overstocked, products are spoiled, one or two cars are being delivered to the city, lines for everything, even for what was a little earlier


      Sabotage, economic sabotage ...
  25. bubla5
    bubla5 3 October 2013 19: 26
    +1
    You can say one-Yeltsin prostitutes
    1. mark7
      mark7 3 October 2013 19: 55
      0
      Quote: bubla5
      You can say one-Yeltsin prostitutes

      Difficult to put it more accurately +++
  26. alone
    alone 3 October 2013 19: 42
    +2
    Those years were accompanied by a breakthrough in an imperious environment of an incredible number of non-professionals. And devoid of any moral, ethical and even aesthetic restrictions.


    and why is this gentleman talking about it now? what prevented him from saying this then?

    Your humble servant has closely acquainted you with the young reformers Gaidar, Burbulis and other Yeltsin. With Gaidar at the end of 80, we were tied up with work in the “green movement”, created largely thanks to the magazine “Rural Youth”, in which I was the chief editor.


    everything turns out interestingly! he himself brought these ignoramuses with EBN-e. and now he is still outraged that there were non-professionals in power at that time.
  27. olviko
    olviko 3 October 2013 19: 55
    +4
    "That is why our capitalism is gangster, thieving, having nothing to do with classical capitalism."

    It seems to me that Poptsov is disingenuous, but he did not fight, now he is making excuses. Where did he see not gangster capitalism? maybe in the USA? So that's a lie. American, like any other, capitalism allows humiliatingly low wages for some at the expense of the wild, incommensurate with any common sense income of others, and these incomes are in no way explained by their contribution to the common cause, but depend only on the place of the rich on the ladder of power. They set these incomes for themselves. What is not robbery in its purest form! And how these pure capitalists robbed Russia, that during the Civil War, that in the 90s. Here is the revelation of a "friend," Bill. "Clinton at the Chiefs of Staff:" I congratulate you on the fact that in the person of Russia we have received an appendage of raw materials, not an atom-destroyed state that would not be easy to create. This is Yeltsin's enormous merits, during the four years of his power, we and our allies received various strategic raw materials worth 15 billion dollars, hundreds of tons of gold, precious stones, etc. For non-existent projects, over 20 thousand tons were sold to us for negligible amounts copper, almost 50 thousand tons of aluminum, 2 thousand tons of cesium, beryllium, strontium, etc. Our task, together with the Kremlin, is to try in every possible way to prevent the communists from coming to power. With the help of our friends, create such preconditions that all conceivable and inconceivable obstacles for the left parties would be set in the parliamentary race. Pay special attention to the presidential elections. The current leadership of the country suits us in all respects ... By ensuring that Yeltsin takes the presidency for a second term, we will thereby create a testing ground from which we will never leave. "
    Oleg Poptsov, the first director of the Rossiya television channel, created in 1990, once belonged to the inner circle of Yeltsin and Gaidar. I think there are few people in Russia who are ready to give a hand to one or the other, whether they are alive. Well, you can congratulate Poptsov and people like him in a very decent company. .
    1. krpmlws
      krpmlws 3 October 2013 22: 35
      0
      Probably under gangster capitalism, Poptsov means criminal. Back in the early 90s, a series of Govorukhin's docfilms "Criminal Russia" was released, in which he warned that Russia was completely immersed in crime.
  28. VadimSt
    VadimSt 3 October 2013 20: 57
    -1
    + Indeed, the article of repentance, although it was late for 20 years!
  29. pensioner
    pensioner 3 October 2013 22: 40
    +2
    I didn't read the article. The sight of these puppeteers makes me sick. Smart guy fu ev. How could I be a supporter of "democratization" in those days fool ! How I was blind !! fool fool Choke this popsev into the lungs if you happen to meet him. am So omit the country! When we disentangle ...
  30. KOH
    KOH 4 October 2013 05: 47
    0
    Quote: Povshnik
    It was not we who made the revolution, but Muscovites who supported EBaNatik, and you can’t blame everything on the people, because they did not ask him, and ... they supported the referendum on dissolution of the USSR.


    I fully support !!! Who asked us? We watched this "show" on TV as a bunch of e ... natiks, led by the main E ... natik, were destroying the country, if the same Muscovites knew what would follow, I think they would have it under the same tank and put ...
  31. koksalek
    koksalek 4 October 2013 07: 48
    0
    All of them individually taken and speak beautifully and do everything exceptionally correctly, it’s all the people’s fault, he ruined the country, he got loans to pocket them, he transferred all the money over the hill and there he arranged a second homeland for himself and his relatives. And these high-ranking officials have nothing to do with it, they say that they are all their own like us!