South Korea plays muscles

South Korea decided to show the whole world, and especially its northern neighbor, with whom there have been many disagreements lately, its increasing military power.

At the same time, the “muscle game” was timed to coincide with the 65 anniversary of the South Korean Armed Forces Day, in honor of which the largest military parade took place in the last 10 years.

According to representatives of the country's military department, the parade was the most ambitious in ten years and is designed to demonstrate that the threat from the DPRK is minimal due to the buildup of the country's military potential.

According to the authorities, 11 of thousands of military personnel took part in the parade, 190 types of military equipment were involved, as well as 120 aircraft and helicopters. Not without a demonstration of new products. Thus, domestic-made cruise missiles were shown, capable of striking at key targets in the territory of the DPRK.

Among the distinguished guests of the parade are the visiting US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel and the chairman of the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, who is visiting South Korea.

During her ceremonial performance before the participants and spectators of the parade at the airbase in the town of Seongnam, Korean President Park Geun-hye stressed that the creation of a powerful anti-missile defense of the South and opportunities for a preemptive strike would help to contain threats from North Korea weapon. According to her, the situation on the Korean Peninsula now remains very tense.

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[svp67]

Well, well, everything is natural, the main thing is that the generals of the Republic of Kazakhstan do not have a desire to try these "muscles" of theirs in the real case, otherwise there will be trouble ...

[bask]

South Korea plays muscles

There is something to play South Korea. The economic, technological and military potential is huge.
But S.Korea is not a bastard. She can give it in the teeth, it will not seem a little to anyone. (Moreover, China is behind her).
Play muscles of South Korea and this-ALL !!!!!

[Black Colonel]

I don’t know about help from China. On the North Korean Russian-language website http://juche-songun.livejournal.com/ about the Korean War of 1950-1953, there is not a word about military assistance either from China or from the USSR. The technological lag of the DPRK from the Republic of Kazakhstan, of course, is enormous. But according to the military potential, the southerners alone can not cope with the northerners.

[nerd.su]

Quote: Black Colonel

I don’t know about help from China. On the North Korean Russian-language website http://juche-songun.livejournal.com/ about the Korean War of 1950-1953, there is not a word about military assistance either from China or from the USSR.

So this is a magazine about modern DPRK, even more about TPK and its leaders. The CPSU, too, didn’t very much like to remember the land-lease
And so that you are not very upset by the lack of references in the Korean magazine, here is a link to the recollections of one of the employees of the Soviet defense industry. I immediately give a link to the chapter on the war in Korea, but the whole book is no less interesting.
http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/matskevich_vv/06.html

And China will now support the North Koreans. For he does not need a united Korea, no matter who wins.

[Zymran]

Quote: bot.su

And so that you are not very upset by the lack of references in the Korean magazine, here is a link to the recollections of one of the employees of the Soviet defense industry. I immediately give a link to the chapter on the war in Korea, but the whole book is no less interesting.
http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/matskevich_vv/06.html

Quickly read, the information is very interesting, but this is surprising

AIC’s latest electronic sights with the AN / APG-30AN / APG-30 electronic rangefinder made it possible to fire with very high accuracy, and not from 50-150 meters, but from 2500 meters.

The weapons of Saber are 12.7 machine guns, it is impossible to shoot from them at 2.5 kilometers.

[nerd.su]

Quote: Zymran

The weapons of Saber are 12.7 machine guns, it is impossible to shoot from them at 2.5 kilometers.

But the sight could be installed not only on Saber, as I understand it. This scope was suitable for firing machine guns, cannons and for bombing.
And even if only on Saber, the pilot still needs time to aim, and at cruising speed, the Saber overcomes 2,5 km in 10 seconds.

Incidentally, I indicated a slightly different chapter. There, directly about the author’s participation in the events in Korea later in the text, and this introduction, so to speak ... I have long read, I forgot a little

[Zymran]

Your truth.

[Quiet]

Play muscles of South Korea and this-ALL !!!!!

Such "muscles" in a sparrow's legs !!!

[Hektor]

Than ??? Tanks of the sample of the 70s, with modernization to the level of the 80s? Air defense systems S-75 and S-125? Or maybe AKMSami ??? Well, yes they have a bomb ... IIIii ??? 2 pieces were thrown at Japan, but the result?

[v53993]

the main thing is that the generals of the Republic of Kazakhstan do not have a desire to try these "muscles" in this case, otherwise there will be trouble ...

... muscle trouble. Muscles are nothing without spirit. When there is not enough spirit, they play with muscles.

[svp67]

According to authorities, the parade was attended by 11 thousand military personnel, 190 types of military equipment, as well as 120 aircraft and helicopters, were involved.

And interestingly our "eighties" participated?

[Kars]

Quote: svp67

And interestingly our "eighties" participated?

Not along the way. Like the Black Panthers, just theirs.

[Jogan-xnumx]

Not along the way. Like the Black Panthers, just theirs.

Thanks for the video. The parade is like a parade, nothing particularly impressive. Only now with what a fright there the UN peacekeepers suddenly lurked ???

[svp67]

Quote: Jogan-64

Thanks for the video.

Join

[fklj]

Pug, playing muscle on a leash. And if the United States is released from the leash?

[Kibalchish]

South Korea pug? Are you in your mind This is a highly developed state with a powerful economy and fleet almost equal to the surface group of the Pacific Fleet. And if the South Caucasus defeats the northern, but our borders will have a strong and unfriendly state.
SK has claims to Russia, but saved them until the victory over the North.

[Arabist]

Yes, no one in the DPRK does not stick up; there is no point in anyone. And what are Kazakhstan’s claims to Russia?

[soldier's grandson]

but what is there to get into this DPRK, what do they have there?

[Arabist]

Slave And what, among Korean women and Japanese women there are very beautiful girls.

[fklj]

Quote: Kibalchish

And if the South Caucasus defeats the north / saved them until the victory over the North.

Are you in your own way?
Refuse America to support the South Caucasus, it will immediately begin to be friends with its northern brother. Maybe unite.

The fact that the UK is not a banana republic is known to all. But do not exaggerate its military power.

[vahatak]

And if Korea unites peacefully, then it will be the freshest player in the East, who will threaten all neighbors.

[clidon]

In the near future this is out of the question. Northerners will not go for it with any sauce. The ideas of Juche and the Sungun do not allow.

[vahatak]

When the food runs out, these Juche ideas can easily be sold for a bowl of rice, and when the southerners show them the mobile phones too, they will sell them nuclear weapons.
If it’s serious, then I have doubts that the southerners are waiting for the northerners to bring the BOMB to mind, and then buy them together with BAT.

[nerd.su]

Quote: vahatak

When the food runs out, these Juche ideas are easily sold for a bowl of rice,

Koreans have a different mentality than you. They don’t trade ideas.

[vahatak]

I did not say anything about you in my opinion. But Juche is not the idea of ​​Koreans, but the invention of a handful of parasites.

[nerd.su]

Quote: vahatak

I didn’t say anything about you in my opinion

Well, I didn’t mean you personally. But rather, the inhabitants of the region, who consider trade a very prestigious profession ...

Quote: vahatak

But Juche is not the idea of ​​Koreans, but the invention of a handful of parasites.

And democracy is an invention of a handful of corrupt officials. It is not known which is better.

[vahatak]

1. I can also rant about the mentality of your people, but education makes you restrain your emotions.
2. Why should I oppose Juche and democracy? These are different things.
3. Democracy in general was "invented" by Plato and Aristotle. At least they have identified its general characteristics. Do you think they are corrupt?
4. Even if democracy is not better than Juche (it sounds funny, but suppose), this does not justify the obvious failures of the North Korean leadership in the economy.

[nerd.su]

1. Oh, well, yes, here you are right, with our education it’s bad ...
2. Firstly, you understood, secondly, if these were the essence of the same thing, they would not have to be opposed.
3. Corruption is a Latin word. The President of Gabon, on the occasion of one of the African-Russian-French scandals, made a special statement, beginning with the words: "There is no such word as corruption in any of our dialects, you created it."
Hence the conclusion - everything in the world is relative. And Aristotle, from a modern point of view, may turn out to be a corrupt official, and democracy in those days was possible, because the ancient Greeks did not know such a word - "corruption".
4. So democracy is not better than Juche, and the failures of the North Korean leadership in the economy, if realities are not biased, may not exist. There is a bias in the emphasis on the DPRK economy, called the Songun. But if not for the Songun, then North Korea would not exist long ago.

[vahatak]

Democracy and Juche cannot be compared and opposed because democracy is just a form of government with many options (now in the West it has been cultured and revered as a deity, which personally makes me laugh), and Juche is the national ideology of one particular state . The contrast in the case of the two Koreas is also wrong because the South Caucasus owes its economic prosperity to the military dictatorship of Park Jung-hee. Apparently, I have no illusions about democracy, which some people consider as a panacea, but still Juche is too radical an ideology. And the fact that the DPRK may not exist, so I will not regret; one people must have one state. It is obvious that the South Caucasus is a more successful state than the North Caucasus, which means that South should unite Korea.
PS if the issue of unification were discussed in 1960, when the North was ahead of the South in everything that is possible, I would speak in favor of the North.

[nerd.su]

Quote: vahatak

Democracy and Juche cannot be compared and contrasted because democracy is just a form of government with many options (now in the West it has been cultured and revered as a deity, which personally makes me laugh)

Well, you yourself say that this is an ideology - "now in the West it has been elevated to a cult and is revered as a deity." So how does it differ from the Juche idea then? So that Juche is a purely Korean ideology? But, nevertheless, this is socialism.

Quote: vahatak

And the fact that the DPRK may not exist, so I will not regret

So the leadership of the DPRK to the waist that they think about it. It acts formally in the interests of its people, remembering its interests. The unification of Korea is now not beneficial to the North Koreans. And not only to the government, but also to the people. They very quickly feel themselves in the position of servants of the rich from the south. And it will not be easy for them to break through to the top. And if you are on the successful side, that is today for some, and tomorrow for those who have more money, then I am on the side of principle. And though not everything is good in the DPRK now, I believe that socialism will triumph.

[vahatak]

Democracy is a form of government, not ideology.
And when evaluating success, one must keep in mind not only the present, but also the prospects. In 1960, the UK had prospects, but Kim Il Sung himself buried them with his Juche, and today only the South has prospects. At the expense of the victory of socialism - you have complete freedom to believe, but not socialism and capitalism are fighting in Korea, but common sense (SC) and outdated prejudices (SC).

[nerd.su]

Quote: vahatak

but in Korea it’s not socialism and capitalism that are fighting, but common sense (SC) and outdated prejudices (SC).

Time will tell. No one bothers to correct the Juche idea in the Chinese way ...

[clidon]

They were already running out of food in the late 90s and survived nothing "a difficult trip". Not all, of course, but survived.

[DEfindER]

Quote: Kibalchish

This is a highly developed state with a powerful economy and fleet almost equal to the surface group of the Pacific Fleet.

And what's the point in this economy if it completely belongs to the mattresses who get superprofits from it, leaving the people of the UK a miserable handout, because with so many world brands on such a piece of land (one Samsung is worth it) they should be the richest, which is not observed at all .. Those who financed the UK at the very beginning will never let this golden ship into free sailing?
The same can be said about the army of the South Caucasus, which is a division of the US Army ..

[Zymran]

Bugaga three times. According to the index of human development, South Korea occupies 12 place in the world.

[DEfindER]

Quote: Zymran

According to the human development index, South Korea ranks 12th in the world.

That's it, to feed themselves they have to tear it up so that the potential is revealed .. damn the phrase did not work out very well)) but I think the meaning is clear ..

[clidon]

You also say that the Japanese economy belongs to the United States. ) Koreans live well, with such a population (one third of Russia), a country poor in natural resources, with such a huge and expensive army. They just have enough products of Korean concerns to live well and still help the northerners.

[DEfindER]

Quote: clidon

You also say that the Japanese economy belongs to the United States.

I will say it. The Japanese government has a department of the US State Department through which all the decisions of the Japanese leadership go through, without the approval of the Amers, the Yapis cannot take a step, and what you want is a lost and occupied country.

Quote: clidon

Koreans live well with such a population

With their labor costs, factories are crammed there, their living standards are incomparably low, for similar work somewhere in Europe or the United States, payment would be 10 times higher ..

[clidon]

It's funny. That is, when the Japanese bought up their assets from the Americans in the early 80s and the horror of "Asian expansion" swept across the United States, was it all with the approval of the State Department? You have a very superficial understanding of the state of Japanese-American affairs.
By the way, what is the name of that department in the Japanese government?

for similar work somewhere in Europe or the United States, payment would be 10 times higher ..

These are just your words.

[vahatak]

Quote: DEfindER

And what's the point in this economy if it is wholly owned by mattresses,

Samaung belongs to the mattresses ??????????????????

[DEfindER]

Quote: vahatak

Samaung belongs to the mattresses ??????????????????

Samsung is subordinate to the government of the UK, and the government of the UK to the mattresses, so there is no direct, but influence, because why do you think Apple’s main competitor, Samsung produces all the electronics for them, but it could stupidly curtail the production of chips for Apple and ruin it in an instant ..

[vahatak]

in capitalist countries, government is subordinate to corporations, and not vice versa. and even if Samsung or other companies report to someone, this does not mean that they belong.

[nerd.su]

Quote: Kibalchish

if SK defeats the north

Are you in your mind It's all the same that Sparta will be captured by some kind of Corinth without anyone else's help.

[vahatak]

I don’t know about the capture, but some Thebes Sparta won.

[DEfindER]

Quote: fklj

Pug, playing muscle on a leash.

It’s also not clear to me, but why is the army in South Korea at all? Aggression of the North is like declaring war on the United States. The army of the South Caucasus is subordinate to the US army, and will not take a single step without the permission of Washington ..
And it seems I realized that there would be someone to buy Amer’s weapons .. Well, or in the case of a war with the DPRK, be a cannon fodder ..

[fklj]

The fate of such vassals, to obey the owner and go to cannon fodder, instead of him.

[APASUS]

Apart from irritation from his neighbor, this will lead to nothing.
Of course, it is necessary to solve the Korean problem, but not under the leadership of the United States. The Koreans must show centuries of wisdom, although in the modern world I will not be surprised at anything.

[Ihrek]

Keeping the Korean Peninsula in control is beneficial to America.

[Stiletto]

South Korea is "flexing its muscles" because it plays a point.

[bask]

Quote: Stiletto

South Korea is "flexing its muscles" because it plays a point.

Basically, the DA will be remembered yet. How troops were sent to them by S. Korea. If it weren’t for the intervention of SUSH, there wouldn’t be now. Yu. Korea.
And they are not fools to step on the same rake.
They will play and calm down. There is no oil in S. Korea.

[kris]

Quote: Jamal

Keeping the Korean Peninsula in control is beneficial to America.

War does not need pin dosam in the first place. If South Korea pressures north, the Yankees will have no reason to keep troops near China.

[Alexey M]

People’s Korean fun, then some will play something over others. It would be better to send all the advisers and grind all the differences and live a big and friendly family.

[Alex Danilov]

Ahah. This will happen after the USSR is restored.

[alone]

then this will happen very, very soon.

[Samminosh]

The military power of the DPRK is not suitable for the southern neighbor.
The technological difference still affects, and the difference in the military budget is twenty times too.
And a mobilization resource.
Nuclear technology level of the 60s is not to overcome.

[DEfindER]

Quote: Samminosh

The military power of the DPRK is not suitable for the southern neighbor.

Where such confidence? Is there intelligence information?

Quote: Samminosh

the military budget difference is twenty times

The South Caucasus has to buy weapons with huge markups, while the DPRK itself produces without markups; moreover, the DPRK’s budget cannot be measured in dollars.

Quote: Samminosh

Technological difference still affects

The difference may be, but not at all critical. In DPRK, electronics and the auto industry are quite developed: for example, a car for workers - Kukushka-premium

[DPN]

Thank you, for the photo it seems that they did not learn badly from the Union, without oil they are still developing. they have cohesion as we have during the Second World War, so that nothing breaks off in South Korea. They wanted to show off before the Minister of State.

[alone]

Quote: DEfindER

The South Caucasus has to buy weapons with huge markups, while the DPRK itself produces without markups; moreover, the DPRK’s budget cannot be measured in dollars.

Well, of course, I understand the solidarity about North Korea, but the armament produced by North Korea is not good in comparison with the South Caucasus. Let’s reason, casting aside sympathy.

[soldier's grandson]

DPRK sells modernized SCADAS and that’s it, look at their parade they HADS on studentbackers carry people there about the Internet and didn’t hear anything, the electronics that they buy from the sale of rockets are glued labels on it so that people think that they produce it

[Alex Danilov]

Rather, it’s the military power of the YuK-D not suitable for the DPRK. Yes, gentlemen, taking and detonating the YuK-yao + hydrogen is at the very edge of the abyss itself. Then it’s not only the YUK that will be the hone — in general, all of Korea. .

[smiths xnumx]

Well, there is nothing to oppose the KPA of South Korea, except for the number and nuclear weapons:
Ground troops
3500 medium and main battle tanks (about 1000 type 59 is a Chinese clone of T-54, according to some information, removed from service; about 2000 T-55, about 1000 T-62 and its licensed copy "Cheonmaho", 200/300 of the most modern Songun- 915, armed with a 125-mm cannon, and 2 ATGMs, there are also T-35-85, IS-2 at the storage bases, some of which are used as fixed firing points at the DMZ);

over 560 light tanks (PT-76 and own production M-1985),

about 200 BMP-1 and reconnaissance vehicles based on its BRM-1K;
more than 2500 armored personnel carriers (about 1000 BTR-60 / BTR-40 / BTR-152, 30 BTR-80A, a certain number of wheeled BTR M-2010 with a wheel arrangement of 6x6, 8x8, tracked BTR VTT-323, an analogue of the Chinese YW-531, and its further development is M-2012),

more than 10400 artillery pieces (including 3500 towed and 4400 self-propelled ones, including 170-mm "Koksan" and M-1985),
over 7500 mortars,
more than 5500 MLRS (107-240 mm),

about 2000 ATGM installations ("Bumblebee", "baby", Competition "- the last two are produced under license),
34 installations of tactical missiles,
30 installations of tactical missiles,
11000 anti-aircraft gun mounts (of which there are about 3000 in stationary positions), there is a number of ZSU-57-2 and ZSU-23-4 "Shilka", as well as the 57-mm M-2012 and 30-mm ZSU M- 1992, there are also 37-mm ZSU of our own design M-1992 and 14,5-mm ZPU
about 10000 MANPADS (Strela 2M and Igla-1, produced in the DPRK under license and Strela-3)

[Zhaman-Urus]

Plus, a mobilization reserve of a couple of million bayonets, and mountainous areas pitted over 60 years of preparation for war. There will be no winner there except the mattresses, and the South Koreans have something to lose so that they will never be the first to turn up.

[studentmati]

Quote: Zhaman-Urus

There will be no winner except mattresses,

Nonsense! Even if mattresses occupy a large part of the territory after long and merciless bombing, this does not mean that the spirit of the people of the DPRK will be broken! So the response of the partisans will be many times stronger!
Strength of mind, not weapons, is the first to win in a war!

[bask]

Quote: Kuznetsov 1977

Well, there’s nothing to oppose the KPA of South Korea,

There is something. S. Korean special forces. The service life of 10 years.
The DPRK special forces are among the most combat-ready special forces in the world, with a strength of about 120 and thousands.

[studentmati]

Quote: bask

There is something. S. Korean special forces. The service life of 10 years.
The DPRK special forces are among the most combat-ready special forces in the world, with a strength of about 120 and thousands.

And if you consider that each fighter is highly specialized, then the probability of completing the task tends to 100%.

[Altona]

South Korea will not be drawn into a large-scale military conflict without a positive image and appropriate international support, but you can measure as many with batons as you like ... Everyone does it ...

[gameover65]

South Korea will not be drawn into large-scale military conflict without a positive image and relevant international support

and what does it mean without international support? Does anyone believe that the militant impulses of the South Koreans can support the countries of South America, Africa, China, India and Russia?
maybe you should call everything by their names and say without the support of the usa?

[Altona]

Well, this means ... the DPRK will have to be exposed as the aggressor, the "Dobra" countries will pass the appropriate resolutions and then something will probably happen ... But we must not forget that the DPRK will stand behind the DPRK and it will play its game, since the DPRK is still under the patronage of the PRC ...

[smiths xnumx]

It is unlikely that China will stand up for North Korea, even the grandfather of Eun-Kim Il Sung in the 60s withdrew all its supporters from the leadership. As for current relations, China does not sell DPRK modern weapons, as the latter does not ask. The refusal to sell J-10 fighter jets even caused Kim Jong Il to cut his visit to China by one day in 2010.

According to a senior source in North Korea, North Korean leader Kim Jong Il, when he visited China in early May 2010, made a corresponding request to Chinese President Hu Jintao. Observers believe that the refusal was the reason why Kim Jong Il shortened his visit by one day.

http://aviarus.blogspot.ru/2010/06/j10-for-northkorea.html

[Russian_Prapor]

South Korea plays muscles As in a joke: the Hedgehog is standing on the edge of the field and screaming at all he can: I am strong! I'm strong! A bear passed by and, well, he gave a hedgehog a paw, for the sake of laughter. The hedgehog flew to the other end of the field, got up and said: I am strong ... but light.

[smiths xnumx]

Air force
Fighters - 494
40 MiG-29 (35 MiG-29, 5 MiG-29UB - the first export modifications 9-12 and 9-13);

56 MiG-23 (P, PL, UB);
about 150 MiG-21 (LSI, PPS, U);

about 40 Chengdu F-7, a Chinese copy of the MiG-21;

98 Shenyang F-6-Chinese copy of the MiG-19;
100 Shenyang F-5 is a Chinese copy of the MiG-17.
Attack aircraft - about 174 aircraft
about 80 Harbin H-5 is a Chinese copy of the IL-28, which made its first flight in 1948. Perhaps they are used as a carrier of nuclear weapons;
36 Su-25 (32 Su-25K, 4 Su-25UPK)

40 Nanchang A-5, modernized by the Chinese MiG-19, designed to strike at ground targets.
18 Su-7.

Training and combat training aircraft (some of the aircraft can be adapted to strike at ground targets) - about 357 aircraft.
12 Czechoslovak Aero L-39;
135 Shenyang FT-5-Chinese combat training copy of the MiG-17,
30 MIG-15
180 Nanchang CJ-6 is a Chinese copy of the Soviet piston UTS Yak-18.
There is 1 AWACS aircraft, created on the basis of the An-24 with the radar of the MiG-29 fighter.
Helicopters: about 314
Combat-about 20 Mi-24
about 87 American MD 500D "Defender", some of which are armed with 4 ATGM "Baby"

4 Mi-26,
15 Mi-8T, there is also about 10 Mi-14PL anti-submarine modification Mi-8,
48 Harbin Z-5, a Chinese copy of the Mi-4, a part of which is also possible
about 140 Mi-2s, some of which may also carry weapons.

[i_vam_ne_hvoratj]

Dear colleagues, dear author. I, frankly, did not understand what the words "South Korea is flexing" mean. Has the President of the Republic of Korea done something reprehensible by demonstrating to her fellow citizens confidence in the inviolability of her country's borders ??? Then why don't you, dear author of the article, throw a stone anywhere. In any country, not excluding the Russian Federation, North Korea, China, the United States, parades serve for this. Another question is the artificial division of one nation into two parts. I am more than sure that this will happen and the country will be united. There are two nuances. Who can initiate it. I am more than sure that this will be the result of the work of the PRC (Regional Superpower with a related mentality and serious influence). We (unfortunately) and the USA (to a part), I think, will not be alive at this holiday. If we do, then as extras. And the second thing. If the merger takes place with an orientation towards the north of Korea, it will not be the best option ...

[Black Colonel]

With the current mentality of the DPRK leadership, the unification of the Koreas is hardly possible. My opinion.

[Chicot 1]

Well, they held a parade, and okay ... Everyone is holding them. And this one was a bit richer, because it was dedicated to the anniversary of the creation of their armed forces ...

[smiths xnumx]

Air Defense of the DPRK
S-75, about 40 divisions, 140 launchers

S-125, 232 batteries of 128 PU, some of them upgraded, PU installed on the KrAZ wheeled chassis, some are in underground shelters and rises if necessary;
North Korean version of the PU S-125 on the KrAZ chassis

scheme of underground shelters air defense systems S-125

S-200, 24-40 PU

KN-06- North Korean version of either S-300 or its Chinese copy of HQ-9 with PAR, unknown quantity but not less than 8;
Radar with FAR SAM KN-06

PU SAM KN-06

an unknown number of Strela-10 self-propelled air defense systems,
There is information about the presence in the DPRK of the Krug-M1, Kub M1, Buk M1 air defense systems, but it is unclear how much they correspond to reality.
About 11 anti-aircraft guns and anti-aircraft guns, caliber 000-14,5 mm (about 130 500-mm KS-100, about 19 400-mm KS-85, about 12 1000-mm 37-K, about 61 ZU-1500)

[alone]

Well, we can say that North Korean anti-aircraft defense is old.

[Apollo]

Quote: lonely

Air defense of North Korea junk.

but modernized.

[studentmati]

Quote: Apollon

Quote: lonely
Air defense of North Korea junk.

but modernized.

And most importantly, combat-ready, thanks to fighting spirit!

[smiths xnumx]

Dear Omar, I do not argue about junk, but there are a few points
1. The territory of the DPRK is extremely small, only 120 540 km², which allows you to completely cover it with available air defense systems
2. Koreans from the time of the Korean War, understand that they will have to act in the conditions of superiority of the enemy in the air, therefore for a long time (about 60 years), they prepared for this: they dug underground shelters, which allowed them to hide most of the industry, primarily defense , management and communication facilities underground. In addition, most of the country is covered in mountains, which does not allow enemy aircraft to strike from high altitudes, and for medium and low altitudes, North Koreans have a large number of air defense systems and MANPADS that allow for ambush operations.
3. Quite a high level of training of air defense troops (soldiers have been in military service for 10 years)
4. Attempts to independently upgrade existing air defense systems. An example of a self-propelled air defense system KN-06 and a self-propelled version of the S-125 air defense system I have already cited above. A similar option exists for the S-75. In addition, the North Koreans are actively modernizing the existing ZA installations and creating their own very original developments.
30-mm SPAAG based on "Shilka", which are installed in order to increase the firing range
2 allegedly shipborne 30-mm guns AK-230

30-mm 4-barreled anti-aircraft gun based on ZPU-4, controlled by the ship's radar MR-104

37 mm ZSU based on the North Korean BTR M-1992

57-mm twin anti-aircraft guns based on the S-60

57-mm ZSU M-2012 based on this weapon, similar to ZSU-57-2

[bulvas]

and the tank in the photo is beautiful.
Korean designers have made good progress since the first Daewoo and Nexia

what is it on his tracks? galoshes so as not to spoil the asphalt?

[smiths xnumx]

North Korean Navy
3 frigates with anti-ship missiles:
1 Soho-class frigate - the world's largest catamaran-type ship, armed with 4 P-15 anti-ship missiles,
2 frigates of the "Najin" type - created on the basis of the Soviet TFR type of the 50-40s, armed with 2 anti-ship missile launchers P-15, perhaps one has already been removed from service;

6 SKR (4 types "Sarivon", created on the basis of the Soviet minesweeper "Tral" of the 40s, one carries missile armament, 2 types of "Tral" were transferred to the USSR in the 50s, one as part of the MCHPV)

Submarines- about 70
4 Soviet submarines of project 613- may be used as training or already withdrawn from service,
23 Chinese and domestic submarines of project 033 (Soviet project 633 "Romeo" of the 50s),
29 small submarines of the Sang-O project,
over 20 ultra-small submarines,

34 missile boats (10 project 205 “Wasp”, 4 class “Huangfeng”, 10 “Sozhu”, 12 project 183 “Komar”; the armament of the boats are PKR P-15 Termit or Chinese CSS-N-1 SCRUBBRUSH), 150 torpedo boats boats (about half - of domestic construction),

fire support boats (including 62 CHAHO class),
56 large (6 “Hainan”, 12 “Daejeon”, 13 “Shanghai-2”, 6 “Jeonju”, 19 “SO-1”) and more than 100 small patrol boats,
10 small landing ships of “Hante” (capable of transporting 3-4 light tanks),
up to 120 landing boats (including about 100 Nampo, created on the basis of the Soviet P-6 torpedo boat, having a speed of up to 40 knots and a range of up to 335 km and capable of carrying up to 30 fully equipped paratroopers),
up to 130 hovercraft
24 minesweeper "Yukto-1/2",
8 floating bases of very small submarines,
submarine rescue boat,
4 hydrographic vessels.

[tennis]

Quote: Kibalchish

South Korea pug? Are you in your mind This is a highly developed state with a powerful economy and fleet almost equal to the surface group of the Pacific Fleet.

Powerful, powerful ... as long as the United States takes care of them. Otherwise, one of them will remain from their power. Is that northern phones thrown.

[vahatak]

And weakly do the same phones?

[DPN]

Let’s take a shot for the northerners in chervonets and southerners. P **** Ts will come, as in Vietnam.

[Watchman]

Without the United States, Kazakhstan will not do anything.

[tennis]

Quote: vahatak

And weakly do the same phones?

And that you have such a phone? Here is the lucky one !!! and probably knows how to shoot, like bursts or single?

[soldier's grandson]

Quote: tennis

Quote: Kibalchish

South Korea pug? Are you in your mind This is a highly developed state with a powerful economy and fleet almost equal to the surface group of the Pacific Fleet.

Powerful, powerful ... as long as the United States takes care of them. Otherwise, one of them will remain from their power. Is that northern phones thrown.

the northerners have such a powerful female army that they can only throw gaskets

[Agent 008]

What a parade this is - without a military band! They're coming as if they were burying someone ...

[Day 11]

In general, you’re all in vain striving over the DPRK army! Yes, they don’t know what technique, but the moral and political level of the personnel is super-high! Just do not say that it was the same with us in the USSR. Here it is much higher ( another mentality). They have one divisions Special Forces troops ---... Shhhh! This is a military secret (they will get it here). And if without jokes, they will tear up the puppet army in a month!

[soldier's grandson]

Quote: Den 11

In general, you’re all in vain striving over the DPRK army! Yes, they don’t know what technique, but the moral and political level of the personnel is super-high! Just do not say that it was the same with us in the USSR. Here it is much higher ( another mentality). They have one divisions Special Forces troops ---... Shhhh! This is a military secret (they will get it here). And if without jokes, they will tear up the puppet army in a month!

or scatter abroad

[Day 11]

But for this, political officers are needed in the army!

[Day 11]

Here are serious men

[studentmati]

Quote: Den 11

Here are serious men

Hi Denis! Once again, I support the theme that the people of the DPRK and its army, which is almost identical, in their fighting spirit are many times superior to any enemy!

[Alex 241]

Hello men, Koreans even took off their TOP GAN, called TAKE IN SKY, who are interested in the link here http://filmix.net/55925-vozvraschenie-na-bazu-vzveysya-v-nebo-r2b-return-2-base-
al-too-bi-riteon-too-beiseu-2012.html

[studentmati]

[quote = alex 241] Hello men, Koreans even took off their TOP GAN, called RISE INTO THE SKY
Hi Sasha!
Well done, what else to say? Skillfully apply modern propaganda technologies!

[Alex 241]

By the way, look Sash, the only thing for me is they all look alike, the problem is to figure it out well, humor and patriotism are all there.

[Day 11]

Great Sasha, have you watched the film "Order No. 027"?

[Alex 241]

Hi Denis, I don’t remember how much. I’ll look at the trailer.

[Selevc]

Cheap computer graphics !!! For fans of "fighting" in cinemas :))))))))) South Korean branch of Hollywood fairy tales :)))))))

[Day 11]

Cool Sanya! If you take garlic --- the DPRK army will break the puppets, without options. And the Yankees will already fall into trouble. It’s possible to connect diplomacy and undercover games, but NO!

[Alex 241]

Denis has no doubt. The only thing they have is a big failure in high-tech weapons.

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

Denis has no doubt. The only thing they have is a big failure in high-tech weapons.

If there is such a failure, then it is not so terrible. Given that, to put it mildly, Russian high-tech weapons are mainly built on the elemental base of a potential enemy.

[Alex 241]

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[smiths xnumx]

No men, unfortunately now on one high spirit and patriotism, which cannot be taken away from the North Koreans. Remember the Korean War, the KPA, having material superiority, defeated the South Koreans. And when the Americans entered the game, only the help of China (people's volunteers) and the USSR (64 IAC) saved the DPRK from complete defeat. Now the roles have changed ... The South Koreans have technological and material superiority. Therefore, the North Korean "blitzkrieg" is unfortunately doomed ...

[Alex 241]

Rum if they will "destroy" the DPRK, then according to the Russian scenario. Political technologies.

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

Rum if they will "destroy" the DPRK, then according to the Russian scenario. Political technologies.

Unfortunately, the question is not "if", but the question "when"? As for the script, I agree: the first violin will be for political technologies.

[Alex 241]

The main thing is to throw in the democratic idea, then rebuild, deepen, and develop. We have passed.

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

The main thing is to throw in a democratic idea-

Throwing in a "democratic" idea is possible only with the tacit consent of the "wolves".

[Alex 241]

Hu from Kim ?, available. This is his study abroad.
It was previously thought that Kim sent his youngest son to study in Switzerland in 1998. It is known that Eun attended a school in Bern in 1998-2000 under the name Pak Un and was listed in school documents as the son of an employee of the DPRK Embassy in Switzerland. However, Swiss journalists from the Le Matin Dimanche and Sonntags Zeitung newspapers, after reviewing the police archives, concluded that this was the second trip of the future North Korean leader to Switzerland. The first time his father sent him to the country of cheese, watches and banks back in 1991, when he was 8 or 9 years old. True, where he studied in the “early” Swiss period, Independent writes, so far it has not been possible to establish. Yes and Raisa Maximovna is.

[studentmati]

To be honest, it’s disgusting to look at Una, sheer hypocrisy and there is no ideology in the eyes.

[Alex 241]

Sanya guess at once what is more: Korean or European?

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

Sanya guess at once what is more: Korean or European?

Big Mac in kind.

[bask]

Quote: Alex 241

give it at once what is more in it: Korean or European?

Kazakh, I have a neighbor spilled Eun.

[nerd.su]

Quote: Alex 241

Yes, and Raisa Maximovna is.

And when was it with us Gorbachev shot from mortars those who did not cry for Chernenko?

[Day 11]

There is no Zyoma, a blitzkrieg is quite possible. If you neutralize the Yankees. And there are enough moves (mothballed) there. Zyoma, have you heard about the raid of SK-saboteurs into the occupied territory? Read, do you like this (I also). then!

[smiths xnumx]

Americans say: Colonel David Hackworth "Second Korean War":
"... Pyongyang still managed to create one of the most powerful armies in the world. The North Koreans have outdated weapons and military equipment, but their morale is exceptionally high: they are able to fight, receiving a few grains of rice a day, and only surrender then, when they throw a sack over them and tie it up. These are well-trained soldiers accustomed to iron discipline. In battle, their fundamental principles are camouflage, accurate shooting, fire and maneuver. They require small logistics support units. They work well in the dark, although they don't have sophisticated night vision equipment I recently visited the demilitarized zone and noticed that the soldiers on the other side were wearing shabby uniforms with cracked belts, but they had big, rough and calloused hands from constant karate practice. at me, they literally trembled with hatred, like fighting dogs. to clips with cartridges. One soldier who fought against both the Japanese and the North Koreans told me, “Japanese kittens against North Koreans. The latter were the most vile kami I have ever had to deal with. "

http://voenoboz.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=302:2011-06-11-1

0-14-41&catid=55:-8-595&Itemid=37

[Day 11]

And yet, men, there is no total escape there. It is enough to talk to the hard workers from S. Korea, who work for us in the Far East. No glorification of the Great Leader --- they just say that they believe in him. When they mention the Yankees or this rat Lee Myung-bak (I don’t know about the current woman, probably the same thing) -they start to boil! Read the DV forums.

[voliador]

They’ll be afraid to speak out against North Korea alone - for the southerners face no chance. 60 years ago, they resisted only thanks to the shamers.

[voliador]

Well, the normal name of the scrambled letter п banyat -?

[voliador]

And here censorship puts pressure on the throat - the word "zassut" turns out to be obscene. It looks like in admins someone with "crusts" has now sat down. Maybe "sat down" - also not politically correct already?

[Apollo]

Quote: voliador

And here censorship puts pressure on the throat - the word "zat ... ut" turns out to be obscene. It looks like in admins someone with "crusts" has now sat down. Maybe "sat down" - also not politically correct already?

Do not clog up the language, if you are not comfortable write on the plow forums, you see the freedom of choice.

[voliador]

To the admin: it is called "I am watching, and mine is scary." You were better off replacing the statements that set people against each other, or, simply put, troll. And the mood of people cannot be changed by substitution.

[voliador]

However, I cannot be surprised, because the slogan "it is better to overdo it than not to miss it" is now more relevant than ever. And what if they put on a hat "from above" ?!

[Druid]

South Korea is twice as large as North Korea in terms of population - 48,9 million. against 24,7 million, well, think about the DPRK GDP of 32,7 billion US dollars, the South Korean GDP of 1,6 trillion. dollars, but on the territory of the DPRK surpasses South Korea 120,5 thousand square kilometers against 99,3 thousand square kilometers.
We work with South Koreans, their engineer arrived, around a couple of days, then on my misfortune we treated him with dogwood and rushed just the "crisis" was on the Korean Peninsula. I ask him, they say, you don’t worry, he just waved his hand like Vanya, saying X ... nya, they are doing it, then they will crawl to ask for food again, I ask about the unification of Korea, he’s on X ... we make ends meet, we also have these on the neck, we all saw the unification of Germany. I ask, they say, well, but if there is a war, he answers calmly - we will destroy them, they are fanatics (about the DPRK army).

[FAO_48E]

Quote: smiths xnumx

Americans Speak: Colonel David Hackworth "Second Korean War ...
http://voenoboz.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=302:2011-06-11-1
0-14-41&catid=55:-8-595&Itemid=37

I apologize terribly, but the whole article that allegedly wrote to David Hackworth and the link to which you bring is a lime tree from the very beginning to the end. Check the publication date: June 11, 2011. The problem is that, firstly, at that time Col. David H. Hackworth was almost 6 years old in the other world: he died on May 5, 2005. Secondly, the article all the time mentions General Gary E. Luck. General Luck did indeed command the United Nations-South Korean Command (United Nations Command (Korea) / Combined Forces Command / United States Forces Korea). Only now he commanded them from June 15, 1993. on July 9, 1996, after which he resigned directly. The third, and probably the most interesting, in his book “Hazardous Duty” (Dangerous Service), Comrade Hackworth really shares his thoughts on the possibility of a second Korean war ... only he writes exactly the exact opposite - that the whole so-called . the North Korean threat to South Korea from the North is completely contrived, because with the confrontation with the South the North has no chance.