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The President of Ukraine launched the STUGNA-P missiles. One of them fell into the lake

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The President of Ukraine launched the STUGNA-P missiles. One of them fell into the lakePresident of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych October 1 took part in demonstration and tactical exercises of the Armed Forces, which took place at the Yavoriv training ground in the Lviv region. The head of state launched the STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missiles. One of them, as reported by Segodnya, landed in a lake, and a fragment of the second flew over the head of the president.


One of the fired rockets hit the Zavadovsky reservoir in the village of Grushev and killed a lot of fish. At this time, according to Comments.ua, on the shore of the lake there were six tents with tourists. According to eyewitnesses, the shock wave was of such strength that it almost knocked down the tent.

“A shot whistled from the side of the landfill, there in the 100 area there were fishermen sitting - about ten people - and a shell exploded somewhere in the water. A column of water rose 70 - 80 meters after that, the whole lake was smoke-filled. blew off, "one of the witnesses to the incident told 24. Representatives of the fisheries and law enforcement officers arrived at the place of emergency.

During the exercise, Yanukovych himself could have suffered: as Galinfo reports, during the shooting of ammunition over the commander’s parade ground, where the head of state was located, a missile fragment flew by. According to the military, such cases are not uncommon and do not pose a threat to people's lives.

During the briefing, Yanukovych shared his impressions of the teachings: "Professionals have seen the shortcomings and draw conclusions. I will not say what these are the shortcomings." And on his official website, the president promised "from year to year to increase funding for training so that the military would be able to both qualitatively prepare and make good use of the capabilities of our weapons, the capabilities of our army."

Ukrainian military incident with a rocket falling into the lake does not comment.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 2 October 2013 12: 11 New
    12
    The head of state launched the STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missiles.
    - and as a result we got what usually happens at such "general" shows, well, at least people have not suffered. "The Shoemaker must sharpen the boots ..."
    1. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 2 October 2013 12: 21 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      The head of state launched the STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missiles.
      - and as a result we got what usually happens at such "general" shows, well, at least people have not suffered. "The Shoemaker must sharpen the boots ..."


      If the boots are a shoemaker, then the gopnik ....?
    2. Airman
      Airman 2 October 2013 12: 22 New
      45
      It is strange that the ATGM lifted a column of water by 70-80 meters, I doubt that 152 mm high will raise such a column. And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR? The article is clearly custom-made in order to defame Ukrainians. Article minus.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 2 October 2013 12: 40 New
        11
        Quote: Povshnik
        It’s strange that the ATGM raised a column of water by 70-80 meters,

        I thought about that too.
        Quote: Povshnik
        And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR?

        This is even more surprising, fishermen, campers tents. What kind of landfill is there? Km per km?
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 2 October 2013 12: 49 New
          +8
          Quote: Airman, Vladimir
          It is strange that ATGM lifted a column of water on 70-80 metro

          Well, you cling to the little things? Give people a fantasy!
          Quote: Vladimirets
          fishermen, camping tents.

          And it’s no less strange that it “knocked out glass, tore off the roof” from someone. Fear has big eyes, and that explains everything!
          1. Zerstorer
            Zerstorer 2 October 2013 15: 33 New
            +3
            Well yet about the tsunami on the lake did not write. And so fear has big eyes ...
            1. kalinka
              kalinka 3 October 2013 01: 25 New
              0
              It’s good that this gamer wassat did not give a bonus game to play !!! laughing wink
          2. smirnov
            smirnov 2 October 2013 18: 20 New
            +3
            Yeah, the glass in the tents pobybival)))
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 2 October 2013 20: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: smirnov
              Yeah, the glass in the tents

              The glasses were knocked out of the witnesses' glasses and their roof was torn down.
              To be honest, then near that body of water, with a length of 3 km, two rural settlements are located. And in the news, we are talking about country houses, which are made, most likely, of anything. Therefore, there is nothing surprising.
          3. papas-57
            papas-57 2 October 2013 21: 04 New
            0
            It’s just that someone quietly decided to get compensation for the damage suffered (broken glass, broken private animals, i.e. fish, and so on)
        2. shark
          shark 2 October 2013 12: 53 New
          +2
          Why are you surprised. Ukraine has long had a "triumph of freedom and democracy" In fact, everyone does what he wants. And the military is found somewhere in the backyards. It affects many years of educational work on the democratization of the minds of ordinary Ukrainians and the complete annihilation of respect and duty to the state. Simply put, they completely lost their fear .. And they laugh in vain at the missile. It happens to all the armies of the world. As they say, no one is insured.
        3. Maks-80
          Maks-80 2 October 2013 13: 26 New
          +3
          This was a training ground in Soviet times, and now go and see a resort there, they are renting land to vacationers. Nothing personal just business wassat
          1. Zerstorer
            Zerstorer 2 October 2013 15: 35 New
            +8
            Sold land plots of a minefield for cottage construction. garden partnership "Good luck to you."
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 2 October 2013 16: 26 New
              +3
              Quote: Zerstorer
              garden partnership "Good luck to you."

              SNT "The Last Way".
            2. kalinka
              kalinka 3 October 2013 01: 29 New
              -1
              ... under the patronage of the president wink laughing
          2. LINX
            LINX 2 October 2013 19: 29 New
            +1
            Landing was carried out at the training ground, front-line aviation dropped bombs, shot from the city.

            and you are being led that ATGM flew off and the landfill ...
        4. kalinka
          kalinka 3 October 2013 01: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          “A shot fired from the landfill, there fishermen are sitting around 100 meters - about ten people - and somewhere near them a shell exploded in the water.

          The landfill - MYSTERIZED !!!. bully ..This is not a training ground, if fishermen are not placed around the perimeter ... Well, for sure !!!! laughing
      2. 31231
        31231 2 October 2013 16: 30 New
        0
        I think the same thing is nonsense.
      3. Alekseev
        Alekseev 2 October 2013 17: 42 New
        +4
        Quote: Povshnik
        And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR? The article is clearly custom

        Perhaps also custom ...
        But, I recall how a rocket either from the "Point", or from the "Moon" was stuck in the elevator car of an apartment building near Kiev.
        And then the Ukrainian military also denied the possibility of such a “hit” despite the most real evidence.
        Or the well-known case of the Tu-154 over the Black Sea.
        Fair? the tankman Kuzmuk really resigned, but there were speculations that the rocket was supposedly not Ukrainian. request
        The Ukrainian prosecutor touched, to the reporter’s question: “If not Ukrainian, how many were there?” lol,
        there was a babble: "dumb evidence, what exactly is a Ukrainian rocket?"
        True, in Russia there is "dumb" evidence, for example, Feldmebel's guilt.
        But that's another story... smile
      4. Revolver
        Revolver 2 October 2013 20: 11 New
        +1
        Quote: Povshnik
        It is strange that the ATGM raised a column of water by 70-80 meters, I doubt that a 152 mm high explosive will raise such a column. And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR?

        How? Yes, it’s very simple: they came for fishing, they brought dynamite with them so that they would not be able to finish fishing rods. Only decent people got attached to fishing, the cord was set on fire, and on the other side do not understand who started pampering with missiles. Well, by chance, the explosion of a dynamite checker with a rocket fall coincided, and what's so strange? wassat
      5. Andrey Skokovsky
        Andrey Skokovsky 2 October 2013 20: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Povshnik
        It is strange that the ATGM lifted a column of water by 70-80 meters, I doubt that 152 mm high will raise such a column. And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR? The article is clearly custom-made in order to defame Ukrainians. Article minus.

        in fact, this edition of "Foreign Agent", so that nothing good can come of them
        it is strange that such garbage is posted here
      6. Airman
        Airman 4 October 2013 09: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Povshnik
        It is strange that the ATGM lifted a column of water by 70-80 meters, I doubt that 152 mm high will raise such a column. And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR? The article is clearly custom-made in order to defame Ukrainians. Article minus.

        9 people put a minus to the comment, which means they believed that the column of water could be 70-80 meters, or there could be fishermen at the training ground. But the news turned out to be a "duck", the Ukrainians have already refuted it.
      7. ildar335
        ildar335 7 October 2013 14: 45 New
        0
        the article wasn’t custom-made nonsense, the news from the video went through various channels. the fishermen could well have turned up; more than once mushroom pickers have been chased away from the regimental shooting range, so I’m not surprised.
        and about a column of water 70-80m fishermen lied, most likely 7-8m
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 2 October 2013 12: 53 New
      15
      The article is delusional.
      1) A water column of 7-80 meters - did the 250 kg chtoli bomb drop?
      2) A splinter flew over the president’s head - that is, it fell into the lake, but one splinter flew a couple of kilometers ago against all the laws of physics?
      3) The shock wave tore the tents and knocked out the glass - how many kg is there?

      As a result, the article is fake.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 2 October 2013 13: 04 New
        +7
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        The article is delusional.

        But if you want, you can explain everything.
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        1) A water column of 7-80 meters - did the 250 kg chtoli bomb drop?

        This is a NEW rocket, it can do anything.
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        2) A splinter flew over the president’s head - that is, it fell into the lake, but one splinter flew a couple of kilometers ago against all the laws of physics?

        see point 1.
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        3) The shock wave tore the tents and knocked out the glass - how many kg is there?

        see item 1 and item 2.
        smile
      2. individual
        individual 2 October 2013 13: 09 New
        +2
        Like in Crimea: "Everything is in the smoke - nothing is visible"!
      3. alone
        alone 2 October 2013 20: 13 New
        +1
        the one who wrote the article would be better off doing useful work.
    4. waisson
      waisson 2 October 2013 18: 50 New
      0
      Yes, while fishing, they were putting a pike on Putin’s hook, and so they decided to break the fishing record between the presidents in one fell swoop, but generally thank God there was no window dressing without victims
    5. T-100
      T-100 2 October 2013 19: 22 New
      +1
      It feels like a read that the couples to relax and the training ground in Ukraine are one and the same)))
    6. starshina78
      starshina78 2 October 2013 20: 14 New
      0
      In Ukraine, either in a pond or by plane!
    7. domokl
      domokl 3 October 2013 05: 44 New
      0
      That's how ducks are born fellow And I thought that it was from eggs. What is the power of ATGM? What debris can fly to the backside? And what kind of fishermen can be at the training ground? The author is a purely civilian person, never, even on TV, having seen what ATGM is laughing Article minus with two minuses ..
  2. arb0905
    arb0905 2 October 2013 12: 11 New
    -3
    Funny, Ukraine is still launching something
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 2 October 2013 12: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: arb0905
      Funny, Ukraine is still launching something

      Unfortunately this is not the first mistake. That 9-storey building will strike a rocket, then the plane by mistake, and most importantly no recognition of their mistakes. The Ukrainian military has a very strange guilt!
      To recall at least the tragedy in Sknilovo, all the switchmen sat down.
      1. Mujahiddin777
        Mujahiddin777 2 October 2013 12: 54 New
        +2
        This is Lviv drama ... sad
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 2 October 2013 13: 58 New
          +3
          Quote: Mujahiddin777
          This is Lviv drama

          This is not drama - this is tragedy!
          1. Mujahiddin777
            Mujahiddin777 2 October 2013 15: 16 New
            +1
            Be that as it may, people died!
  3. komsomolets
    komsomolets 2 October 2013 12: 12 New
    +2
    Which country, such acts of terrorism.
  4. PavelOPG
    PavelOPG 2 October 2013 12: 12 New
    +4
    poacher he however wassat
  5. DEMENTIY
    DEMENTIY 2 October 2013 12: 13 New
    +2
    Aw, what’s over your head? Armor scared?
  6. Kars
    Kars 2 October 2013 12: 15 New
    +6
    A column of water rose about 70 - 80 meters, after which the whole lake was smoky. Glass was broken, the roof was torn off "
    what is it so shot from the howitzer))))
    1. Bronis
      Bronis 2 October 2013 13: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: Kars
      what is it so shot from the howitzer))))

      No, it will not be enough. If you look at archival footage of the times of the war, then this can only be done by a rather large bomb or detonation of the ship’s ammunition. 70-80 meters is an indicator. Some well, very harsh ATGM was developed by ... journalists. The size of a "mace" ... (in general, it looks like it: splinters, broads, smoke) wassat
    2. alone
      alone 2 October 2013 20: 15 New
      0
      mine carried out aerial bombardment))
  7. Altona
    Altona 2 October 2013 12: 17 New
    +2
    Of course, if trustworthy startups trust, then it will not be ... fool
  8. Russ69
    Russ69 2 October 2013 12: 19 New
    +7
    Don’t let the fool, even to steer the state, to shoot from ATGMs, the result is the same ....
    1. 31231
      31231 2 October 2013 16: 37 New
      0
      Yes fake it. Why just threw him into the news feed, I do not understand.
      1. alone
        alone 2 October 2013 20: 16 New
        0
        wink Well, why? Ukraine is eager for the EU)) it is necessary to imagine Yanukovych in the eyes of people a moron))
    2. Altona
      Altona 2 October 2013 20: 28 New
      +2
      two posts of approximately the same content ... your plus, my minus ... where is the logic? request
      1. alone
        alone 2 October 2013 20: 31 New
        +1
        there is no LOGIC dear Eugene! if there was logic, this article would not have gotten here at all))) let it be minus))
  9. svp67
    svp67 2 October 2013 12: 19 New
    +2
    Guided missiles of the Stugna-P complex were created on the basis of the Stugna missiles designed to be launched through the cannon barrel of the tank. Such missiles are produced in calibers of 100 and 125 millimeters. The new rocket allows penetrating armor up to 800 millimeters thick.


    “Stugna” is an anti-tank guided missile designed for effective firing by a T-55 tank and an M12 anti-tank gun against stationary and moving armored objects with spaced, combined or monolithic armor, including equipped with dynamic protection, as well as against small-sized targets: bunkers, Bunker, a tank in the trench, a hovering helicopter, etc.

    “Stugna” was copied with minor modifications by the Kiev design bureau “Luch” from the Soviet complex “Kastet”, developed in the late 1970s at the Tula Instrument Design Bureau


    That is, again, the "Soviet past"
    1. shark
      shark 2 October 2013 12: 55 New
      +3
      but where else can I get it. Now they will begin to rivet the NATO counterparts. It is very interesting that they will succeed. And something should happen. The hybrid of NATO technology and bright brains of the Soviet school ...
    2. alone
      alone 2 October 2013 20: 17 New
      +1
      and how could this thing raise a column of water 80m?
  10. apostol88
    apostol88 2 October 2013 12: 20 New
    10
    Article is complete nonsense !!! negative
  11. pensioner
    pensioner 2 October 2013 12: 24 New
    15
    Ukrainian military incident with a rocket falling into the lake does not comment.

    And they have no time. The fish are still being harvested ...
  12. specialist636
    specialist636 2 October 2013 12: 26 New
    +8
    "According to the military, such cases are not uncommon and pose no threat to people's lives." They don’t consider Yanukovych as a person?))))))))))) A fragment of a rocket flew by and nothing, normal))))))))
  13. seller trucks
    seller trucks 2 October 2013 12: 27 New
    +5
    (+) What is not a day, then pearl:

    "Professionals have seen the flaws and draw conclusions. I will not say what the flaws are."


    Dundukovich, in his stupid remarks, soon outstrips Bush (the younger)
    1. Mhpv
      Mhpv 2 October 2013 13: 09 New
      12
      The reference president should have a firm hand and a strong forehead:
      so hit your own, so that the EU is afraid hi
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 2 October 2013 13: 46 New
        +1
        !!!!!!!!!!!! +++++++++ good hi laughing
  14. avt
    avt 2 October 2013 12: 35 New
    +6
    ,, During the exercises, Yanukovych himself could suffer: according to Galinfo, during the shooting of ammunition over the commander’s square, where the head of state was, a fragment of a rocket flew over. According to the military, such cases are not uncommon and do not pose a threat to people's lives. "==== He doesn’t take care of himself, but after the wreath we should be more careful like that ...
    1. Gur
      Gur 2 October 2013 12: 40 New
      +1
      Absolutely right, then a wreath or a rocket, what's next ...
    2. maxvet
      maxvet 2 October 2013 16: 31 New
      +1
      And chicken eggs, the guarantor does not protect himself ...
  15. uncapital
    uncapital 2 October 2013 12: 36 New
    +8
    I did not believe a single word from this duck. The case when the rule: "No smoke without fire" does not work. Well, how can practice firing take place on the site, while in the immediate vicinity are civilians ??? And one more thing: why did he “shoot” so much that a tsunami formed on the lake and blown up tents? Only the “Point” comes to mind, but it was written in Russian in white “rocket STUGNA-P.” Brad negative
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 2 October 2013 12: 59 New
      +6
      Quote: non-captain
      Russian in white "rocket" STUGNA-P

      Eh, well, you don’t understand anything. After all, that “Stugna-P” in its power surpasses the Russian Satan several times. recourse wassat laughing
      1. maxvet
        maxvet 2 October 2013 16: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Hedgehog
        Russian Satan

        it seems Satan was developed and produced on YuzhMash, and this is Dnepropetrovsk
        i.e. Ukraine
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 2 October 2013 20: 06 New
          0
          Quote: maxvet
          it seems Satan was developed and produced in SouthMash

          Exactly, but it is only in Russia today.
    2. alone
      alone 2 October 2013 20: 21 New
      0
      Quote: non-captain
      but it was written in Russian in white "rocket" STUGNA-P


      Well, the author, having read the word rocket, thought that this is a very huge thing
  16. major071
    major071 2 October 2013 12: 38 New
    +7
    This is where Yanukovych was aiming if he hit the lake? Probably just wanted some fish. Now he will boast, they say he was fishing, he caught so many fish that he did not fit into the car.
    1. borisjdin1957
      borisjdin1957 2 October 2013 12: 56 New
      +2
      from the Don.
      Has the GDP decided to outdo?
  17. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 2 October 2013 12: 39 New
    +7
    It’s good that they did not test the intercontinental missile .. laughing
    1. MG42
      MG42 2 October 2013 18: 49 New
      +5
      There are no ICBMs left in Ukraine ..
      IN OCTOBER 1993, THE FIRST Rocket Mine of Strategic Missile Forces Strategic Missiles was solemnly blown up. THIS EVENT WAS PASSED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT CONCLUDED BY UKRAINE WITH RUSSIA AND THE USA. US SENATOR RICHARD LUGART SPECIALLY ARRIVED AT THIS EVENT
      In 1996 Ukraine has lost its nuclear status ..
  18. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 2 October 2013 12: 41 New
    +1
    Kind! If the "hero" of the article is almost a copy of the installation in the figure, then raising a pillar of 80 meters is complete nonsense! If we take into account the physics of the process of shooting at a water obstacle, it becomes clear - in the article is an oil painting. And the fact that it turned out not to work for goals was nothing surprising, understanding the problems of Ukrainian industry ... and Ukraine as a whole.
  19. Roman_Romanich
    Roman_Romanich 2 October 2013 12: 41 New
    +4
    Either the plane was shot down by mistake, then they almost killed their own shrapnel, the clowns in one word!
    1. maxvet
      maxvet 2 October 2013 16: 34 New
      +2
      are you sure that the president wasn’t mistakenly shattered? wink
  20. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 2 October 2013 12: 43 New
    +1
    One of the fired missiles hit the Zavadovsky reservoir in the village of Grushev and killed a lot of fish.

    Hmm - SNIPER, however! ...
  21. MG42
    MG42 2 October 2013 12: 48 New
    +6
    Recall the past 2000 >>

    The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine admitted that the military are guilty
    in the tragedy that happened in the city of Brovary near Kiev. There, April 20
    at 15.07, for an unknown reason then, an explosion occurred in a residential building. Three
    its inhabitants were killed and three were injured. Just that day, a little earlier,
    90 kilometers from Brovary at the training ground, the military launched a tactical
    Earth-to-Earth missile.

    Brick house in Brovary from the ninth to the second floor as if
    pierced by a giant crowbar. A circular hole with a clear
    noticeable marks that resembled four fingerprints
    stabilizers. This picture was observed by rescuers who arrived at
    urgent call. However, at first the explanation seemed more likely
    that such destruction was caused by an explosive device of directional action,
    but not a rocket. The press service of the Ministry of Defense issued an urgent refutation,
    where any connection between the exercises in Goncharovsk and the destruction was rejected
    at home in Brovary. The military claimed that the missile hit the target in thirty
    kilometers from the launch site, dodging the target by only 8 meters. It was
    launch of the Tochka-U tactical missile, maximum combat range
    part of which, according to the directories, is 120 kilometers.

    However, late on Sunday night on the channel
    "1 + 1" the head of the missile forces and artillery of the Ukrainian Army General
    Volodymyr Tereshchenko admitted that the “Point” hit the house in Brovary.


    http://www.day.kiev.ua/ru/article/podrobnosti/minoborony-priznalo-chto-v-dom-v-b

    rovarah-popala-ih-tochka
    1. MG42
      MG42 2 October 2013 18: 29 New
      +5
      Already minus the news, that was not this? lol

      But the Minister of Defense also rewarded missile launchers for hours when they fired, only bad luck was that a missile hit a residential building ..

      As for this clown, Yanukovych, he loses consciousness from getting a chicken egg in him laughing this is how the president got to Ukraine >> could it be that 2 walkers in the zone did not temper character ..

      And here I started to suppress the fish with ATGM .. fool
      1. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 2 October 2013 19: 56 New
        +1
        It's just that in small countries there is not enough territory for landfills. In Germany, silencers are put on howitzers, and in Ukraine they shoot at tourists.
  22. makst83
    makst83 2 October 2013 12: 57 New
    0
    Attempted murder, not !?)
  23. individual
    individual 2 October 2013 13: 03 New
    +1
    The game of "soldiers" in an adult requires acquired skills, ability and technical readiness.
    Ambition is more expensive here. bully
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 2 October 2013 13: 11 New
      +4
      Quote-The head of state launched the STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missiles.


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  24. a52333
    a52333 2 October 2013 13: 14 New
    +9
    a second fragment flew over the president’s head.
    Even if it hit the head, a chance to collide with the brain = 0
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 2 October 2013 14: 22 New
      +1
      So much for the day "picked up" NEGATIVE from the news, and you at least cheered! To you +!
      1. kalinka
        kalinka 3 October 2013 01: 36 New
        0
        100% The people had fun from the heart !!! ... lol laughing
  25. Akim
    Akim 2 October 2013 13: 22 New
    +7
    Well, if you don’t remember that the reservoir at the Yavorsky training ground is generally located on the other side of the directissa ...
    1. maxvet
      maxvet 2 October 2013 16: 39 New
      +3
      Dear Akim, directors, directions, charge power, water column! But who cares?! When it comes to infa that the Ukrainian defense industry has gone into a puddle.
      1. Akim
        Akim 2 October 2013 16: 45 New
        +5
        Quote: maxvet
        who cares? When infa is served that the Ukrainian defense industry has gone into a puddle.

        Then, in order to heighten the tension, it was necessary to write that the shard drove Fedorovich in the forehead and rebounded. wassat
        1. maxvet
          maxvet 2 October 2013 16: 51 New
          +2
          So you doubt that soon they will not release a video where the splinter is re-shelling from the guarantor's forehead ... wink
          1. Akim
            Akim 2 October 2013 16: 56 New
            +5
            Quote: maxvet
            that soon they will not release a video where the splinter is re-shelling from the guarantor's forehead ...

            So he will receive the status of "Participant in hostilities" soldier
            1. maxvet
              maxvet 2 October 2013 17: 00 New
              0
              Quote: Akim
              So he will receive the status of "Participant in hostilities"

              rather a veteran
              1. Akim
                Akim 2 October 2013 17: 09 New
                0
                Quote: maxvet
                rather a veteran

                This is our former speaker Litvin who loves to collect statuses.
              2. Felix200970
                Felix200970 2 October 2013 17: 35 New
                +1
                Guys don't mess up. And tomorrow the army general of Ukraine will be assigned and the length of service at the rate of three days will be counted laughing
  26. Maks-80
    Maks-80 2 October 2013 13: 23 New
    +9
    Ukrainian army is the most merciless army in the world laughing Either a civilian plane will be shot down, then it will launch a rocket into a residential building, then it will jam the fish with anti-tank missiles, then they will almost kill their own president laughing
  27. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 2 October 2013 13: 26 New
    +2
    I am not surprised at this information ...... if you recall what "incidents" occurred before with military equipment in valiant Ukraine
  28. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 2 October 2013 13: 40 New
    +1
    They made us ... laughing wassat
  29. Algor73
    Algor73 2 October 2013 13: 41 New
    0
    If 15 percent of the article is true, then this is very good. But the most important thing is not that I am interested in why a person without skills will go to a place where he does not understand anything? This is a weapon!
    let him and the President. This "boyarschina" is already tired.
    1. Kars
      Kars 2 October 2013 13: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: Algor73
      , I’m interested in why a person without skills will go to a place where he knows nothing? This is a weapon!

      Do you think Putin’s only prerogative is to fly the Su-27 and head flocks of geese on a hangplane?
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 2 October 2013 14: 36 New
        +7
        Well, Putin can not only on Su 27 and hang glider, but also like this:
        1. ia-ai00
          ia-ai00 2 October 2013 14: 55 New
          +8
          Well, Yanukovych, probably wanted to "show" himself the same thing, otherwise Putin, yes Putin, then he steers, then he flies here, now, how beautifully and powerfully he swims!
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      2. Kipish
        Kipish 2 October 2013 15: 05 New
        +4
        Notice the runway and the fighters can fly, but this trigger without an incident can not press.
        I hope he is not a small-skinned hunter, he will shoot his leg in Sibe, and then he will fall down, that the damned have arranged everything.
        1. Akim
          Akim 2 October 2013 15: 29 New
          0
          Quote: Kipish
          Notice the runway and the fighters can fly,

          Yeah. In place of the co-pilot. Don’t tell Putin over-quality, otherwise 10 years have already passed - the children probably think that he is superman. And Yanyk would not fit in the cockpit. Remember how he crawled out of "Victory" into three deaths?
          1. maxvet
            maxvet 2 October 2013 16: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: Akim
            Do not talk to Putin about the quality

            the main thing is not to remember how he went on a grant. although the excuses of the VAZ I personally roll
      3. Prapor-527
        Prapor-527 2 October 2013 15: 07 New
        +1
        Well, at least he had enough mind to not climb at the helm. laughing
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 2 October 2013 16: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Prapor-527
          the mind was not enough for the helm

          Yes, Lana, it was his pilot who did not take it with him, because Sparka would not take off due to overload.
      4. lelikas
        lelikas 2 October 2013 17: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: Kars
        Do you only have Putin’s prerogative to fly the Su-27 and head flocks of geese on the hang glider?

        He is also a submariner. belay - so take care of your boat.
    2. Felix200970
      Felix200970 2 October 2013 17: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: Algor73
      If 15 percent of the article is true, then this is very good.

      The truth is that Yanukovych was at the Yavoriv training ground. Everything else is nonsense zhurnalyug who have a Makarov pistol of the ninth caliber. At least they would have asked where the ATGM directrix is ​​located on the training ground and what is the clear space there. The range of the first category allows you to conduct divisional exercises with live firing, and here they write some nonsense. Not an ATGM turned out, but a ballistic missile foolTo whom it is interesting I give a link to the polygon map http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=50.023623&lon=23.766174&z=11&m=b and to Wikipedia http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D1%F2%F3 % E3% ED% E0-% CF _ (% CF% D2% D0% CA)
  30. Ihrek
    Ihrek 2 October 2013 13: 43 New
    +1
    Shameful. You have to think with your head. fool
  31. wlad59
    wlad59 2 October 2013 14: 35 New
    +3
    "... The fishermen said that the explosion raised such a tall column of water that the locals rushed in a panic. Now dead fish are scattered on the lake in Grushiva, and glass was shattered in the hunting and summer cottages ..." - my God, what yellowness went down Military Review. No, of course I understand, if the task is to “crap” Yanukovych, all means are good, but to write such a NUCLEAR !!! 1. Grushiv (located on the border with Poland) is separated from the landfill by a DENSE forest, 5-7 km wide. (I can imagine how a laser-guided anti-tank missile winds between trees so as not to crash into a tree trunk) 2. The STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missiles have a flight range of 5000 m (5 km) - a missile launched from the firing range I wouldn’t fly to the lake !!! 3. The mass of the rocket, 15 kg. - from where "... A column of water rose about 70 - 80 meters, after that the whole lake was smoky. Glass was knocked out, the roof was torn off," one of the witnesses of the incident said.
    1. Locksmith
      Locksmith 2 October 2013 15: 32 New
      +2
      Duc military review of what wrong-infa from your local means of disinformation wink , and the topic of the military may well be covered at a MILITARY REVIEW.
      1. wlad59
        wlad59 2 October 2013 19: 47 New
        0
        But is there an EDITOR on "military review"? And if there is, then for what he receives a salary ???
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 2 October 2013 16: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: wlad59
      oh my god, to what yellowness the Military Review descended.

      The source http://www.utro.ru/ All questions there!
    3. Genry
      Genry 2 October 2013 18: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: wlad59
      2. The flight range of the STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missiles is 5000 m (5 km) - fired from the firing range, the rocket simply would not have reached the lake !!!

      You confuse the range of destruction of the complex (guaranteed CONTROLLED flight of the missile at the target with the countermeasures), with the range of the missile in the "EVOLUTION" mode.

      Quote: wlad59
      3. The mass of the rocket, 15 kg. - from where "... A column of water rose about 70 - 80 meters, after that the whole lake was smoky. Glass was knocked out, the roof was torn off," one of the witnesses of the incident said.

      Well, it's fishermen, they have fish more than 10 kilograms - already a monster.
    4. Alekseev
      Alekseev 3 October 2013 09: 54 New
      0
      Quote: wlad59
      2. The flight range of the STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missiles is 5000 m (5 km) - fired from the firing range, the rocket simply would not have reached the lake !!!

      No need to make waves in the basin! wink
      In an uncontrolled emergency mode, (roughly speaking, along a ballistic trajectory) ATGM can fly much more.
      I remember how at the Esztergomskom (Hungary) 9m112 ATGM range flew as far behind rather high hills and fell as much beyond the border of the landfill, covering much more than 5 km.
      For a long time, they searched for the remains of a secret shell for a long time ...
  32. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 2 October 2013 14: 38 New
    +4
    I have 35 experience in the army. But I did not understand what happened at the training ground. Polygon, this is a regime zone. No ammunition should fly out of this zone. It is completely unclear how the damaging element could get into the sector where people are located. Here, something is wrong ...
    1. wlad59
      wlad59 2 October 2013 14: 40 New
      +2
      What is not clear here ??? This is the “most ordinary” duck!
  33. leon-iv
    leon-iv 2 October 2013 14: 38 New
    +3
    It is a pity that Yanuka did not beat ((((
  34. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 2 October 2013 15: 10 New
    +1
    wlad59 UA
    ... (I can imagine how a laser-guided anti-tank missile winds between trees so as not to crash into a tree trunk) ...

    And what, trees grow so densely, or for Ukrainian laser-guided anti-tank missiles - is a tree trunk an insurmountable obstacle?
    1. wlad59
      wlad59 2 October 2013 19: 57 New
      0
      Are you kidding me ??? The landfill is surrounded by FOREST (the real one), and the width of the forest strip is not 50 and not 100 meters. A few km. In addition, an anti-tank missile does not fly along a ballistic trajectory, but along a lay one. Those. in your opinion it turns out that the rocket flew several kilometers. through the forest (without hitting a single tree) and calmly flew further on ???
  35. Agent 008
    Agent 008 2 October 2013 15: 23 New
    +2
    Yes, Yanukovych wanted to show that he is the same MACHO as Putin, but where there ... After such a "shooting" I would not even have trusted him with a slingshot!
  36. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 2 October 2013 15: 40 New
    +4
    What a relief for NATO friends that Ukraine has no intercontinental missiles wassat fool
  37. sergo1979
    sergo1979 2 October 2013 15: 45 New
    +1
    complete nonsense and nonsense from beginning to end - a wave of 70-80 meters, Yanukovych launched scared fishermen --- nonsense
  38. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 2 October 2013 15: 46 New
    +3
    "Hetman Doroshenko became especially famous in this heinous thirty years ... he proposed to annex Ukraine to Turkey, and when even the nearest foreman could not stand it and asked:
    "- Old Man, you sho, zihav from the middle?! ..", - he explained:
    "- If you join Ukraine to a single-blooded, single-faith, single-language Russia, then very soon it will completely merge with it - and will not need either a separate hetman or a separate foreman. But, if you join it to a foreign, inverted, foreign-speaking Turkey - then it will always remain separate and will always need independent rulers ... "
    So, our current rulers (continues Wasserman) are acting according to the recipe of Hetman Doroshenko ... "
    http://archive.censor.net.ua/go/offers--ResourceType--forum
    1. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 2 October 2013 20: 27 New
      0
      exactly so, blacksmiths. I read the comments and remembered this speech by Anatoly Alexandrovich.
  39. Akim
    Akim 2 October 2013 15: 48 New
    +3
    Of course, it’s probably nice to mock the neighbors? To make it seem like his g ... smells. And let’s say for the first time I saw at our exercises that they put a cape on the tank.
    1. maxvet
      maxvet 2 October 2013 16: 58 New
      0
      As a non-specialist, Akim, please explain to me what is in the cloak that you first saw it? (Without any banter, it’s just interesting)
      1. Akim
        Akim 2 October 2013 17: 15 New
        0
        Quote: maxvet
        please explain what is in the cloak,

        Not what is in it, but the very presence. Previously, camouflage was limited only to branches. In general, you need to look more clearly. The fragment in the video is hard to judge. For example, at CIT, I saw a new camouflage network. There were still quad bikes and someone saw a buggy.
        1. Genry
          Genry 2 October 2013 18: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: Akim
          There were still quad bikes and someone saw a buggy.

          This is a new type of armored personnel carrier, where the thickness of the armor tends to zero.
          1. Akim
            Akim 2 October 2013 18: 09 New
            0
            Quote: Genry
            This is a new type of armored personnel carrier,

            These are cars from the razvedroda 80th airmobile so far. They say that a large order for them for the army and the police will go to Kiev motorcycle next year,
  40. 128mgb
    128mgb 2 October 2013 15: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: Kars

    Do you think Putin’s only prerogative is to fly the Su-27 and head flocks of geese on a hangplane?

    Well, that kind of thing worked out. And the geese are alive and rockets, that is, the plane is intact.
    1. Akim
      Akim 2 October 2013 16: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: 128mgb
      And the geese are alive and rockets, that is, the plane is intact.

      The third time the flock rose after the FSB uncles threatened the cranes: “We have your children.” am
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 2 October 2013 16: 24 New
        +3
        Guys guess sho stick in my pants? laughing

        That didn’t guess - tennis ball !!!!
      2. maxvet
        maxvet 2 October 2013 16: 45 New
        +3
        Oh, what a terrible FSB- the cranes threatened, and the geese flew lol
        1. Akim
          Akim 2 October 2013 16: 52 New
          +2
          Quote: maxvet
          They threatened the cranes, and the geese flew

          I'm certainly not an ornithologist, but I can distinguish a crane about a goose.
          1. maxvet
            maxvet 2 October 2013 16: 56 New
            +1
            it means there in any way the FSB officer decided to penetrate the beyond the border, decided to mow under the crane ... wassat
          2. MG42
            MG42 2 October 2013 18: 43 New
            +3
            Yanukovych wouldn’t be able to fly .. Born to crawl can’t fly ..
      3. lelikas
        lelikas 2 October 2013 17: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: Akim
        how the FSB uncles threatened the cranes: - We have your children.

        It's five !!! laughing
  41. Kowalsky
    Kowalsky 2 October 2013 16: 23 New
    +1
    The prosecutor’s office is now checking to see if there was any kind of explosion at all, and who is to blame if it was blown up in the wrong place. Much more interesting is why journalists were banned from filming a Yanukovych helicopter. Funny, I saw this bird flying over the house a couple of times when the “guarantor” was in Donetsk. Apparently now the SBU will come to me :)
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 2 October 2013 17: 28 New
      0
      And why did everyone decide to discuss the TTD ATGM. Maybe someone quietly launched a tactical assault on the guarantor, but did it, but got into the lake and drowned out the fish. So that each missile is aimed, Ukraine strictly fulfills. On the ground. In heaven, And at sea.
  42. Kosatka
    Kosatka 2 October 2013 16: 32 New
    0
    Article FUFLO. Although, if this POTS Yanyk hit the head with a rocket, not many would regret it.
    The military in a commentary on Radio Liberty suggests that poachers used the moment of training and jammed fish.

    Yesterday, residents of Grushev in the Lviv region announced the explosion of a shell from a range near their village. A resident of Grushev, located 17 km from the training ground, Nadezhda Smolin told Radio Liberty that she saw how an explosion occurred in the lake during the exercise, half a kilometer from her house. The woman suggests that it was a shell.

    There were fishermen on the shore who were not injured, but a powerful explosion drowned out the fish in the lake. Nadezhda Smolin says that because of the strong shooting at the firing range in her house, glass windows shook.

    “Fortunately, that shell hit the lake, not the village. Fortunately, it all worked out that way, we already thought the war had begun. (Probably thought the Russians were coming) One explosion was especially powerful,” the woman said.

    The first shot at the exercises was made by the President himself. (It can be assumed that he missed, and what he thumped from. Flew across the 17km into the lake. The locals shouted as always, - Glory to the Heroes, the guarantor of independence, - glory forever.).

    Assessing the course of the exercises, Yanukovych said that certain mistakes were made, which professionals know about, and these errors will be corrected. (Next time he will not miss). soldier good
  43. Old warrant officer
    Old warrant officer 2 October 2013 16: 34 New
    0
    “Glass was knocked out, the roof was torn down,” one of the witnesses of the incident told TV channel 24.
    This is probably when you get into the Ukrainian tank!
  44. rocketman
    rocketman 2 October 2013 17: 08 New
    +2
    Bullshit, of course, is complete.
    I’ll tell you something else, so to speak, as a version - at the same time, as LOCAL residents showed (and this is documented), in the Grushev region, the Polish An-300 (log patrol) flew 2 meters to Ukrainian territory. Nobody saw this, but they saw. Neither air defense officers nor border guards saw it. The question is what the locals smoked and what mushrooms did they collect? So are the fishermen - initially the information went only about two fishermen who saw that something fell into the lake. By the way, it is located 20 km from the landfill. That's all. And then, to the ambassador of a couple of bottles, it’s like fishing: "I pull-pull, and there - in-oh-o-o-o-o-o-o-t such a fish a miracle catfish a hundred kilograms, and behind it a three-ton rocket yes "how dumb that all the tents were blown off and the glass was broken!"
    - so there are no glasses in the tents ?!
    - how not ?! Here are broken bottles!
    etc. that everyone can write to the best of their imagination. Maybe this is the An-2 Polish UR launched all the foul fish. Or maybe the guys just dabbled in dynamite, and when the police arrived, they said that a huge rocket fell into the lake ...
    1. Akim
      Akim 2 October 2013 17: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: rocketman
      . Nobody saw this, but they saw. Neither air defense officers nor border guards saw it. The question is what the locals smoked and what mushrooms did they collect?

      In my youth, when the gym was painted, I sniffed paints and could not cross the border. Apparently a 70-meter column of water (two ten-story buildings) from the same opera.
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 2 October 2013 18: 14 New
        +1
        Does your president like to paint? laughing
        1. Akim
          Akim 2 October 2013 18: 31 New
          0
          Quote: leon-iv
          Does your president like to paint?

          I don’t know, he has a troubled past. In general, I talked about fishermen.
  45. konvalval
    konvalval 2 October 2013 18: 07 New
    +2
    Well, sho you got used to it? Hai flap to show off.
  46. Omskgasmyas
    Omskgasmyas 2 October 2013 18: 18 New
    +2
    This is svidomye news about the beloved by all the people of Hetman. It has nothing to do with real life and real events, just like Ukraine itself in the last 20 years.
    There is already a hint from Kosatka in 16: 32 "Russians are coming!" To all such destruction. soldier
    1. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 2 October 2013 20: 48 New
      -1
      By the way, Kiev became a decent European city only in the second half of the 19th century, as one of the cities of the Russian empire. Kazan is becoming very beautiful, modern and industrial in Russia. that's just one trouble for the Russian kosh. this is to say that the Russians should not allow any crooks from frantic and reckless, scented and plagued-Muslim crooks from the former to roam their land. I ask you not to write me in skinheads. I am Russian, but, unfortunately, I do not live in Russia.
  47. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 2 October 2013 18: 47 New
    -1
    It would be nice to buy these "STUGNA-P" from Ukraine and send it to third-party companies to the Syrian militants as a gift from the US Congress to "establish democracy" .. bully
    1. morpex
      morpex 2 October 2013 20: 59 New
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      It would be nice to buy these "STUGNA-P" from Ukraine and send it to third-party companies to the Syrian militants as a gift from the US Congress to "establish democracy" ..

      Meehan! Believe me, the rockets are excellent! It’s just that everything that our przvik wouldn’t take would turn into a poop ... Even a wreath would give him a muzzle because of his inept handling ... laughing
  48. Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 2 October 2013 19: 23 New
    0
    It’s good that no planes flew nearby.
  49. Akim
    Akim 2 October 2013 20: 19 New
    0
    According to the news broadcast. Apparently, something thumped from the plane. The military deny, but I don’t believe them. But this is not Yanyk with a superPTUR at a distance of 20 km and a high-explosive bomb power.
  50. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 2 October 2013 20: 33 New
    0
    Quote: Akim
    According to the news broadcast. Apparently, something thumped from the plane. The military deny, but I don’t believe them. But this is not Yanyk with a superPTUR at a distance of 20 km and a high-explosive bomb power.

    Maybe TNT mixed with fat ...? did not calculate the ingredient ... Clearly secret development!