The President of Ukraine launched the STUGNA-P missiles. One of them fell into the lake.

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The President of Ukraine launched the STUGNA-P missiles. One of them fell into the lake.President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych October 1 took part in demonstration and tactical exercises of the Armed Forces, which took place at the Yavoriv training ground in the Lviv region. The head of state launched the STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missiles. One of them, as reported by Segodnya, landed in a lake, and a fragment of the second flew over the head of the president.

One of the fired rockets hit the Zavadovsky reservoir in the village of Grushev and killed a lot of fish. At this time, according to Comments.ua, on the shore of the lake there were six tents with tourists. According to eyewitnesses, the shock wave was of such strength that it almost knocked down the tent.

“A shot whistled from the side of the landfill, there in the 100 area there were fishermen sitting - about ten people - and a shell exploded somewhere in the water. A column of water rose 70 - 80 meters after that, the whole lake was smoke-filled. blew off, "one of the witnesses to the incident told 24. Representatives of the fisheries and law enforcement officers arrived at the place of emergency.

During the exercise, Yanukovych himself could have suffered: as Galinfo reports, during the shooting of ammunition over the commander’s parade ground, where the head of state was located, a missile fragment flew by. According to the military, such cases are not uncommon and do not pose a threat to people's lives.

During the briefing, Yanukovych shared his impressions of the teachings: "Professionals have seen the shortcomings and draw conclusions. I will not say what these are the shortcomings." And on his official website, the president promised "from year to year to increase funding for training so that the military would be able to both qualitatively prepare and make good use of the capabilities of our weapons, the capabilities of our army."

Ukrainian military incident with a rocket falling into the lake does not comment.
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  1. +12
    2 October 2013 12: 11
    The head of state launched STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missiles.
    - and as a result we got what usually happens at such "generals" shows, well at least people were not hurt. "Boots must be sharpened by the BOOTMAN ..."
    1. 0
      2 October 2013 12: 21
      Quote: svp67
      The head of state launched STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missiles.
      - and as a result we got what usually happens at such "generals" shows, well at least people were not hurt. "Boots must be sharpened by the BOOTMAN ..."


      If the boots are a shoemaker, then the gopnik ....?
    2. Airman
      +45
      2 October 2013 12: 22
      It is strange that the ATGM lifted a column of water by 70-80 meters, I doubt that 152 mm high will raise such a column. And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR? The article is clearly custom-made in order to defame Ukrainians. Article minus.
      1. +11
        2 October 2013 12: 40
        Quote: Povshnik
        It’s strange that the ATGM raised a column of water by 70-80 meters,

        I thought about that too.
        Quote: Povshnik
        And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR?

        This is even more surprising, fishermen, campers tents. What kind of landfill is there? Km per km?
        1. +8
          2 October 2013 12: 49
          Quote: Airman, Vladimir
          It is strange that ATGM lifted a column of water on 70-80 metro

          Well, you cling to the little things? Give people a fantasy!
          Quote: Vladimirets
          fishermen, camping tents.

          And it is no less strange that someone “knocked out the glass, blew off the roof”. Fear has big eyes, and that explains everything!
          1. +3
            2 October 2013 15: 33
            Well yet about the tsunami on the lake did not write. And so fear has big eyes ...
            1. kalinka
              0
              3 October 2013 01: 25
              It’s good that this gamer wassat did not give a bonus game to play !!! laughing wink
          2. +3
            2 October 2013 18: 20
            Yeah, the glass in the tents pobybival)))
            1. +1
              2 October 2013 20: 02
              Quote: smirnov
              Yeah, the glass in the tents

              The glasses were knocked out of the witnesses' glasses and their roof was torn down.
              To be honest, then near that body of water, with a length of 3 km, two rural settlements are located. And in the news, we are talking about country houses, which are made, most likely, of anything. Therefore, there is nothing surprising.
          3. 0
            2 October 2013 21: 04
            It’s just that someone quietly decided to get compensation for the damage suffered (broken glass, broken private animals, i.e. fish, and so on)
        2. +2
          2 October 2013 12: 53
          Why are you surprised. Ukraine has long been a "triumph of freedom and democracy" In fact, everyone does what he wants. And the military is there somewhere in the backyard. Affected by many years of educational work to democratize the minds of ordinary Ukrainians and the complete annihilation of respect and duty to the state. To put it simply, they have lost all fear. And they laugh at the rocket in vain. It happens that all the armies of the world.
        3. +3
          2 October 2013 13: 26
          This was a training ground in Soviet times, and now go and see a resort there, they are renting land to vacationers. Nothing personal just business wassat
          1. +8
            2 October 2013 15: 35
            Land for sale in a minefield for summer cottage construction. garden partnership "Good luck to you".
            1. +3
              2 October 2013 16: 26
              Quote: Zerstorer
              garden partnership "Good luck to you".

              SNT "The Last Way".
            2. kalinka
              -1
              3 October 2013 01: 29
              ... under the patronage of the president wink laughing
          2. LINX
            +1
            2 October 2013 19: 29
            Landing was carried out at the training ground, front-line aviation dropped bombs, shot from the city.

            and you are being led that ATGM flew off and the landfill ...
        4. kalinka
          +1
          3 October 2013 01: 22
          Quote: Vladimirets
          “A shot whistled from the side of the landfill, there were fishermen sitting about 100 meters there - about ten people - and somewhere near them a shell exploded in the water.

          The landfill - MYSTERIZED !!!. bully ..This is not a training ground, if fishermen are not placed around the perimeter ... Well, for sure !!!! laughing
      2. 0
        2 October 2013 16: 30
        I think the same thing is nonsense.
      3. +4
        2 October 2013 17: 42
        Quote: Povshnik
        And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR? The article is clearly custom

        Perhaps also custom ...
        But, I remember how a rocket either from "Tochka" or from "Luna" got stuck in the elevator car of a residential building near Kiev.
        And then the Ukrainian military denied the same possibility of such a "hit" despite the most real evidence.
        Or the well-known case of the Tu-154 over the Black Sea.
        Fair? the tankman Kuzmuk really resigned, but there were speculations that the rocket was supposedly not Ukrainian. request
        Touched by the Ukrainian prosecutor, to the reporter's question: "If not a Ukrainian, there were many of them there?" lol,
        babble rang out: "there is no evidence that it is the Ukrainian rocket"
        It is true that in Russia there is "dumb" evidence, for example, of Feldmebel's guilt.
        But that's another story... smile
      4. +1
        2 October 2013 20: 11
        Quote: Povshnik
        It is strange that the ATGM raised a column of water by 70-80 meters, I doubt that a 152 mm high explosive will raise such a column. And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR?

        How? Yes, it’s very simple: they came for fishing, they brought dynamite with them so that they would not be able to finish fishing rods. Only decent people got attached to fishing, the cord was set on fire, and on the other side do not understand who started pampering with missiles. Well, by chance, the explosion of a dynamite checker with a rocket fall coincided, and what's so strange? wassat
      5. 0
        2 October 2013 20: 16
        Quote: Povshnik
        It is strange that the ATGM lifted a column of water by 70-80 meters, I doubt that 152 mm high will raise such a column. And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR? The article is clearly custom-made in order to defame Ukrainians. Article minus.

        in fact, this edition is "Foreign Agent", so nothing good will come from them
        it is strange that such garbage is posted here
      6. Airman
        0
        4 October 2013 09: 53
        Quote: Povshnik
        It is strange that the ATGM lifted a column of water by 70-80 meters, I doubt that 152 mm high will raise such a column. And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR? The article is clearly custom-made in order to defame Ukrainians. Article minus.

        9 people put a minus comment, which means they believed that the water column could be 70-80 meters, or there could be fishermen on the landfill. But the news turned out to be a "duck", the Ukrainians have already denied it.
      7. 0
        7 October 2013 14: 45
        the article wasn’t custom-made nonsense, the news from the video went through various channels. the fishermen could well have turned up; more than once mushroom pickers have been chased away from the regimental shooting range, so I’m not surprised.
        and about a column of water 70-80m fishermen lied, most likely 7-8m
    3. +15
      2 October 2013 12: 53
      The article is delusional.
      1) A water column of 7-80 meters - did the 250 kg chtoli bomb drop?
      2) A splinter flew over the president’s head - that is, it fell into the lake, but one splinter flew a couple of kilometers ago against all the laws of physics?
      3) The shock wave tore the tents and knocked out the glass - how many kg is there?

      As a result, the article is fake.
      1. +7
        2 October 2013 13: 04
        Quote: Sith Lord
        The article is delusional.

        But if you want, you can explain everything.
        Quote: Sith Lord
        1) A water column of 7-80 meters - did the 250 kg chtoli bomb drop?

        This is a NEW rocket, it can do anything.
        Quote: Sith Lord
        2) A splinter flew over the president’s head - that is, it fell into the lake, but one splinter flew a couple of kilometers ago against all the laws of physics?

        see point 1.
        Quote: Sith Lord
        3) The shock wave tore the tents and knocked out the glass - how many kg is there?

        see item 1 and item 2.
        smile
      2. +2
        2 October 2013 13: 09
        As in Crimea: "Everything is in smoke - nothing is visible"!
      3. +1
        2 October 2013 20: 13
        the one who wrote the article would be better off doing useful work.
    4. waisson
      0
      2 October 2013 18: 50
      Yes, while fishing, they were putting a pike on Putin’s hook, and so they decided to break the fishing record between the presidents in one fell swoop, but generally thank God there was no window dressing without victims
    5. +1
      2 October 2013 19: 22
      It feels like a read that the couples to relax and the training ground in Ukraine are one and the same)))
    6. 0
      2 October 2013 20: 14
      In Ukraine, either in a pond or by plane!
    7. 0
      3 October 2013 05: 44
      That's how ducks are born fellow And I thought that it was from eggs. What is the power of ATGM? What debris can fly to the backside? And what kind of fishermen can be at the training ground? The author is a purely civilian person, never, even on TV, having seen what ATGM is laughing Article minus with two minuses ..
  2. -3
    2 October 2013 12: 11
    Funny, Ukraine is still launching something
    1. +2
      2 October 2013 12: 20
      Quote: arb0905
      Funny, Ukraine is still launching something

      Unfortunately this is not the first mistake. That 9-storey building will strike a rocket, then the plane by mistake, and most importantly no recognition of their mistakes. The Ukrainian military has a very strange guilt!
      To recall at least the tragedy in Sknilovo, all the switchmen sat down.
      1. +2
        2 October 2013 12: 54
        This is Lviv drama ... sad
        1. +3
          2 October 2013 13: 58
          Quote: Mujahiddin777
          This is Lviv drama

          This is not drama - this is tragedy!
          1. +1
            2 October 2013 15: 16
            Be that as it may, people died!
  3. +2
    2 October 2013 12: 12
    Which country, such acts of terrorism.
  4. +4
    2 October 2013 12: 12
    poacher he however wassat
  5. +2
    2 October 2013 12: 13
    Aw, what’s over your head? Armor scared?
  6. +6
    2 October 2013 12: 15
    The water column rose to 70 - 80 meters, after which the whole lake was filled with smoke. Knocked out the glass, blew the roof off "
    what is it so shot from the howitzer))))
    1. +2
      2 October 2013 13: 53
      Quote: Kars
      what is it so shot from the howitzer))))

      No, it won't be enough. If you look at the archival footage of the war, then this can only be done by a fairly large bomb or detonation of the ship's ammunition. 70-80 meters is an indicator. Some kind of very harsh ATGM was developed ... by journalists. The size of a "Bulava" ... (in general, the action is similar to it: fragments, bangs, smoke) wassat
    2. 0
      2 October 2013 20: 15
      mine carried out aerial bombardment))
  7. +2
    2 October 2013 12: 17
    Of course, if trustworthy startups trust, then it will not be ... fool
  8. +7
    2 October 2013 12: 19
    Don’t let the fool, even to steer the state, to shoot from ATGMs, the result is the same ....
    1. 0
      2 October 2013 16: 37
      Yes fake it. Why just threw him into the news feed, I do not understand.
      1. 0
        2 October 2013 20: 16
        wink Well, why? Ukraine is eager for the EU)) it is necessary to imagine Yanukovych in the eyes of people a moron))
    2. +2
      2 October 2013 20: 28
      two posts of approximately the same content ... your plus, my minus ... where is the logic? request
      1. +1
        2 October 2013 20: 31
        there is no LOGIC dear Eugene! if there was logic, this article would not have gotten here at all))) let it be minus))
  9. +2
    2 October 2013 12: 19
    Guided missiles of the Stugna-P complex were created on the basis of the Stugna missiles, designed to be launched through the cannon barrel of a tank. These missiles are produced in calibers of 100 and 125 millimeters. The new missile can penetrate armor up to 800 millimeters thick.


    “Stugna” is an anti-tank guided missile designed for effective firing by a T-55 tank and an M12 anti-tank gun against stationary and moving armored objects with spaced, combined or monolithic armor, including equipped with dynamic protection, as well as against small-sized targets: bunkers, Bunker, a tank in the trench, a hovering helicopter, etc.

    “Stugna” was copied with minor modifications by the Kiev design bureau “Luch” from the Soviet complex “Kastet”, developed in the late 1970s at the Tula Instrument Design Bureau


    That is, again the "Soviet past"
    1. +3
      2 October 2013 12: 55
      but where else can I get it. Now they will begin to rivet the NATO counterparts. It is very interesting that they will succeed. And something should happen. The hybrid of NATO technology and bright brains of the Soviet school ...
    2. +1
      2 October 2013 20: 17
      and how could this thing raise a column of water 80m?
  10. apostol88
    +10
    2 October 2013 12: 20
    Article is complete nonsense !!! negative
  11. +15
    2 October 2013 12: 24
    Ukrainian military incident with a rocket falling into the lake does not comment.

    And they have no time. The fish are still being harvested ...
  12. specialist636
    +8
    2 October 2013 12: 26
    "According to the military, such cases are not uncommon and do not pose a threat to people's lives." Do they not consider Yanukovych a person?)))))))))) A fragment of a rocket flew by and nothing, ok)))))))
  13. +5
    2 October 2013 12: 27
    (+) What is not a day, then pearl:

    "Professionals have seen the flaws and will draw conclusions. I will not say what these flaws are."


    Dundukovich, in his stupid remarks, soon outstrips Bush (the younger)
    1. +12
      2 October 2013 13: 09
      The reference president should have a firm hand and a strong forehead:
      so hit your own, so that the EU is afraid hi
      1. +1
        2 October 2013 13: 46
        !!!!!!!!!!!! +++++++++ good hi laughing
  14. avt
    +6
    2 October 2013 12: 35
    “During the exercise, Yanukovych himself could have suffered: as Galinfo reports, during the shooting of ammunition over the commander's parade ground, where the head of state was, a missile fragment flew by. According to the military, such cases are not uncommon and do not pose a threat to people's lives. "==== He does not take care of himself, so after the wreath he should be more careful like that ...
    1. Gur
      +1
      2 October 2013 12: 40
      Absolutely right, then a wreath or a rocket, what's next ...
    2. maxvet
      +1
      2 October 2013 16: 31
      And chicken eggs, the guarantor does not protect himself ...
  15. uncapital
    +8
    2 October 2013 12: 36
    I didn't believe a single word from this duck. The case when the rule: "There is no smoke without fire" does not work. Well, how can there be practice shooting on the territory of the range, while there are civilians in the immediate vicinity ??? And here's another: what did he "shoot" so that on the lake almost a tsunami formed and the blast wave demolished the tents? Only "Tochka" comes to mind, but it was written in Russian in white "rocket" STUGNA-P ". Brad negative
    1. +6
      2 October 2013 12: 59
      Quote: non-captain
      Russian in white "rocket" STUGNA-P

      Eh, well, you don't understand a thing. After all, that "Stugna-P" is several times more powerful than the Russian Satan. recourse wassat laughing
      1. maxvet
        +1
        2 October 2013 16: 33
        Quote: Hedgehog
        Russian Satan

        it seems Satan was developed and produced on YuzhMash, and this is Dnepropetrovsk
        i.e. Ukraine
        1. 0
          2 October 2013 20: 06
          Quote: maxvet
          it seems Satan was developed and produced in SouthMash

          Exactly, but it is only in Russia today.
    2. 0
      2 October 2013 20: 21
      Quote: non-captain
      but it was written in Russian in white "rocket" STUGNA-P


      Well, the author, having read the word rocket, thought that this is a very huge thing
  16. +7
    2 October 2013 12: 38
    This is where Yanukovych was aiming if he hit the lake? Probably just wanted some fish. Now he will boast, they say he was fishing, he caught so many fish that he did not fit into the car.
    1. +2
      2 October 2013 12: 56
      from the Don.
      Has the GDP decided to outdo?
  17. +7
    2 October 2013 12: 39
    It’s good that they did not test the intercontinental missile .. laughing
    1. MG42
      +5
      2 October 2013 18: 49
      There are no ICBMs left in Ukraine ..
      IN OCTOBER 1993, THE FIRST Rocket Mine of Strategic Missile Forces Strategic Missiles was solemnly blown up. THIS EVENT WAS PASSED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT CONCLUDED BY UKRAINE WITH RUSSIA AND THE USA. US SENATOR RICHARD LUGART SPECIALLY ARRIVED AT THIS EVENT
      In 1996 Ukraine has lost its nuclear status ..
  18. +1
    2 October 2013 12: 41
    Kind! If the "hero" of the article is almost a copy of the installation in the picture, then raising a pole of 80 meters is complete nonsense! If we take into account the physics of the process of shooting into a water obstacle, it becomes clear - the article is an oil painting. And the fact that it was not possible to work according to the goals is not surprising, understanding the problems of the Ukrainian industry ... and Ukraine as a whole.
  19. Roman_Romanich
    +4
    2 October 2013 12: 41
    Either the plane was shot down by mistake, then they almost killed their own shrapnel, the clowns in one word!
    1. maxvet
      +2
      2 October 2013 16: 34
      are you sure that the president wasn’t mistakenly shattered? wink
  20. +1
    2 October 2013 12: 43
    One of the fired missiles hit the Zavadovsky reservoir in the village of Grushev and killed a lot of fish.

    Hmm - SNIPER, however! ...
  21. MG42
    +6
    2 October 2013 12: 48
    Let's remember the past 2000. >>

    The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine admitted that the military are guilty
    in the tragedy that happened in the city of Brovary near Kiev. There, April 20
    at 15.07, for an unknown reason then, an explosion occurred in a residential building. Three
    its inhabitants were killed and three were injured. Just that day, a little earlier,
    90 kilometers from Brovary at the training ground, the military launched a tactical
    Earth-to-Earth missile.

    Brick house in Brovary from the ninth to the second floor as if
    pierced by a giant crowbar. A circular hole with a clear
    noticeable marks that resembled four fingerprints
    stabilizers. This picture was observed by rescuers who arrived at
    urgent call. However, at first the explanation seemed more likely
    that such destruction was caused by an explosive device of directional action,
    but not a rocket. The press service of the Ministry of Defense issued an urgent refutation,
    where any connection between the exercises in Goncharovsk and the destruction was rejected
    at home in Brovary. The military claimed that the missile hit the target in thirty
    kilometers from the launch site, dodging the target by only 8 meters. It was
    launch of the Tochka-U tactical missile, maximum combat range
    part of which, according to the directories, is 120 kilometers.

    However, late on Sunday night on the channel
    "1 + 1" the head of the missile forces and artillery of the Ukrainian Army General
    Volodymyr Tereshchenko admitted that the “Point” hit the house in Brovary.


    http://www.day.kiev.ua/ru/article/podrobnosti/minoborony-priznalo-chto-v-dom-v-b

    rovarah-popala-ih-tochka
    1. MG42
      +5
      2 October 2013 18: 29
      Already minus the news, that was not this? lol

      But the Minister of Defense also rewarded missile launchers for hours when they fired, only bad luck was that a missile hit a residential building ..

      As for this clown, Yanukovych, he loses consciousness from getting a chicken egg in him laughing this is how the president went to Ukraine >> really 2 trips to the zone didn’t temper the character ..

      And here I started to suppress the fish with ATGM .. fool
      1. +1
        2 October 2013 19: 56
        It's just that in small countries there is not enough territory for landfills. In Germany, silencers are put on howitzers, and in Ukraine they shoot at tourists.
  22. 0
    2 October 2013 12: 57
    Attempted murder, not !?)
  23. +1
    2 October 2013 13: 03
    Playing "toy soldiers" for an adult requires acquired skills, skill and technical readiness.
    Ambition is more expensive here. bully
    1. +4
      2 October 2013 13: 11
      quote-The Head of State launched STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missiles.


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  24. +9
    2 October 2013 13: 14
    a second fragment flew over the president’s head.
    Even if it hit the head, a chance to collide with the brain = 0
    1. +1
      2 October 2013 14: 22
      So much for the day "picked up" NEGATIVE from the news, and you at least amused! You +!
      1. kalinka
        0
        3 October 2013 01: 36
        100% The people had fun from the heart !!! ... lol laughing
  25. Akim
    +7
    2 October 2013 13: 22
    Well, if you don’t remember that the reservoir at the Yavorsky training ground is generally located on the other side of the directissa ...
    1. maxvet
      +3
      2 October 2013 16: 39
      Dear Akim, directors, directions, charge power, water column! But who cares?! When it comes to infa that the Ukrainian defense industry has gone into a puddle.
      1. Akim
        +5
        2 October 2013 16: 45
        Quote: maxvet
        who cares? When infa is served that the Ukrainian defense industry has gone into a puddle.

        Then, in order to heighten the tension, it was necessary to write that the shard drove Fedorovich in the forehead and rebounded. wassat
        1. maxvet
          +2
          2 October 2013 16: 51
          So you doubt that soon they will not release a video where the splinter is re-shelling from the guarantor's forehead ... wink
          1. Akim
            +5
            2 October 2013 16: 56
            Quote: maxvet
            that soon they will not release a video where the splinter is re-shelling from the guarantor's forehead ...

            This means that he will receive the status of "Participant of military operations" soldier
            1. maxvet
              0
              2 October 2013 17: 00
              Quote: Akim
              This means that he will receive the status of "Participant of military operations"

              rather a veteran
              1. Akim
                0
                2 October 2013 17: 09
                Quote: maxvet
                rather a veteran

                This is our former speaker Litvin who loves to collect statuses.
              2. Felix200970
                +1
                2 October 2013 17: 35
                Guys don't mess up. And tomorrow the army general of Ukraine will be assigned and the length of service at the rate of three days will be counted laughing
  26. +9
    2 October 2013 13: 23
    Ukrainian army is the most merciless army in the world laughing Either a civilian plane will be shot down, then it will launch a rocket into a residential building, then it will jam the fish with anti-tank missiles, then they will almost kill their own president laughing
  27. Grigorich 1962
    +2
    2 October 2013 13: 26
    I'm not surprised by this information ...... if you remember what "incidents" happened before with military equipment in the valiant Ukraine
  28. +1
    2 October 2013 13: 40
    They made us ... laughing wassat
  29. Algor73
    0
    2 October 2013 13: 41
    If 15 percent of the article is true, then this is very good. But the most important thing is not that I am interested in why a person without skills will go to a place where he does not understand anything? This is a weapon!
    let him be the President. This "boyarschina" is already tired.
    1. +3
      2 October 2013 13: 47
      Quote: Algor73
      , I’m interested in why a person without skills will go to a place where he knows nothing? This is a weapon!

      Do you think Putin’s only prerogative is to fly the Su-27 and head flocks of geese on a hangplane?
      1. +7
        2 October 2013 14: 36
        Well, Putin can not only on Su 27 and hang glider, but also like this:
        1. +8
          2 October 2013 14: 55
          Well, Yanukovych, probably the same wanted to "show" himself, and then everything is Putin, yes Putin, then he steers, then flies here, then how beautifully and powerfully it floats!
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      2. Kipish
        +4
        2 October 2013 15: 05
        Notice the runway and the fighters can fly, but this trigger without an incident can not press.
        I hope he is not a small-skinned hunter, he will shoot his leg in Sibe, and then he will fall down, that the damned have arranged everything.
        1. Akim
          0
          2 October 2013 15: 29
          Quote: Kipish
          Notice the runway and the fighters can fly,

          Yeah. In place of the co-pilot. Don’t tell Putin about supreme quality, otherwise 10 years have already passed - children probably think that he is superman. And Yanyk would not fit in the cockpit. Remember how he got out of "Victory" in three deaths?
          1. maxvet
            +1
            2 October 2013 16: 42
            Quote: Akim
            Do not talk to Putin about the quality

            the main thing is not to remember how he went on a grant. although the excuses of the VAZ I personally roll
      3. +1
        2 October 2013 15: 07
        Well, at least he had enough mind to not climb at the helm. laughing
        1. +1
          2 October 2013 16: 09
          Quote: Prapor-527
          the mind was not enough for the helm

          Yes, Lana, it was his pilot who did not take it with him, because Sparka would not take off due to overload.
      4. +2
        2 October 2013 17: 30
        Quote: Kars
        Do you only have Putin’s prerogative to fly the Su-27 and head flocks of geese on the hang glider?

        He is also a submariner. belay - so take care of your boat.
    2. Felix200970
      +2
      2 October 2013 17: 55
      Quote: Algor73
      If 15 percent of the article is true, then this is very good.

      The truth is that Yanukovych was at the Yavoriv training ground. Everything else is nonsense zhurnalyug who have a Makarov pistol of the ninth caliber. At least they would have asked where the ATGM directrix is ​​located on the training ground and what is the clear space there. The range of the first category allows you to conduct divisional exercises with live firing, and here they write some nonsense. Not an ATGM turned out, but a ballistic missile foolTo whom it is interesting I give a link to the polygon map http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=50.023623&lon=23.766174&z=11&m=b and to Wikipedia http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D1%F2%F3 % E3% ED% E0-% CF _ (% CF% D2% D0% CA)
  30. +1
    2 October 2013 13: 43
    Shameful. You have to think with your head. fool
  31. Wlad59
    +3
    2 October 2013 14: 35
    "... The fishermen said that the explosion raised such a high column of water that the locals rushed to flee in panic. Now dead fish are scattered on the shore of the lake in Grushiva, and windows are broken in hunting and summer cottages ..." what yellowness dropped Military Review. No, I certainly understand, if the task is set to "justify" Yanukovych, all means are good, but to write such a joke !!! 1. Gruschiv (located on the border with Poland) is separated from the landfill by a Dense forest, 5-7 km wide. (I can imagine how a laser-guided anti-tank missile winds between trees so as not to crash into a tree trunk) 2. The flight range of STUGNA-P anti-tank guided missiles is 5000 m. (5 km.) - fired from a range, the missile is just would not have reached the lake !!! 3. Rocket weight, 15 kg. - from where "... A column of water rose 70 - 80 meters, after that the whole lake was smoky. The windows were broken, the roof was blown off," said one of the witnesses of the incident. "
    1. +2
      2 October 2013 15: 32
      Duc military review of what wrong-infa from your local means of disinformation wink , and the topic of the military may well be covered at a MILITARY REVIEW.
      1. Wlad59
        0
        2 October 2013 19: 47
        Is there an EDITOR on the "military review"? And if there is, then why does he receive a salary ???
    2. +1
      2 October 2013 16: 11
      Quote: wlad59
      oh my god, to what yellowness the Military Review descended.

      The source http://www.utro.ru/ All questions there!
    3. +1
      2 October 2013 18: 18
      Quote: wlad59
      2. Range of flight of anti-tank guided missiles "STUGNA-P" - 5000 m. (5 km.) - fired from the range, the missile simply would not have reached the lake !!!

      You confuse the range of destruction by the complex (guaranteed CONTROLLED missile flight to the target with the conditions of counteraction), with the range of the missile in the "BOLVANK" mode.

      Quote: wlad59
      3. Rocket weight, 15 kg. - from where "... A column of water rose 70 - 80 meters, after that the whole lake was smoky. The windows were broken, the roof was blown off," said one of the witnesses of the incident. "

      Well, it's fishermen, they have fish more than 10 kilograms - already a monster.
    4. 0
      3 October 2013 09: 54
      Quote: wlad59
      2. Range of flight of anti-tank guided missiles "STUGNA-P" - 5000 m. (5 km.) - fired from the range, the missile simply would not have reached the lake !!!

      No need to make waves in the basin! wink
      In an uncontrolled emergency mode, (roughly speaking, along a ballistic trajectory) ATGM can fly much more.
      I remember how at the Esztergomskom (Hungary) 9m112 ATGM range flew as far behind rather high hills and fell as much beyond the border of the landfill, covering much more than 5 km.
      For a long time, they searched for the remains of a secret shell for a long time ...
  32. +4
    2 October 2013 14: 38
    I have 35 experience in the army. But I did not understand what happened at the training ground. Polygon, this is a regime zone. No ammunition should fly out of this zone. It is completely unclear how the damaging element could get into the sector where people are located. Here, something is wrong ...
    1. Wlad59
      +2
      2 October 2013 14: 40
      What's not clear here ??? This is the "most common" duck!
  33. +3
    2 October 2013 14: 38
    It is a pity that Yanuka did not beat ((((
  34. +1
    2 October 2013 15: 10
    wlad59UA
    ... (I can imagine how a laser-guided anti-tank missile winds between trees so as not to crash into a tree trunk) ...

    And what, trees grow so densely, or for Ukrainian laser-guided anti-tank missiles - is a tree trunk an insurmountable obstacle?
    1. Wlad59
      0
      2 October 2013 19: 57
      Are you kidding me ??? The landfill is surrounded by FOREST (the real one), and the width of the forest strip is not 50 and not 100 meters. A few km. In addition, an anti-tank missile does not fly along a ballistic trajectory, but along a lay one. Those. in your opinion it turns out that the rocket flew several kilometers. through the forest (without hitting a single tree) and calmly flew further on ???
  35. +2
    2 October 2013 15: 23
    Yes, Yanukovych wanted to show that he is the same MACHO as Putin, but where there is ... After such a "shooting" I would not even entrust him with a slingshot!
  36. +4
    2 October 2013 15: 40
    What a relief for NATO friends that Ukraine has no intercontinental missiles wassat fool
  37. sergo1979
    +1
    2 October 2013 15: 45
    complete nonsense and nonsense from beginning to end - a wave of 70-80 meters, Yanukovych launched scared fishermen --- nonsense
  38. smiths xnumx
    +3
    2 October 2013 15: 46
    "Hetman Doroshenko became especially famous in this disgusting thirtieth birthday ... he offered to annex Ukraine to Turkey, and when even the nearest foreman could not resist and asked:
    "- Daddy, you sho, zihav gluzdu?! ..", - he explained:
    "- If you join Ukraine to a consanguineous, one-believing, single-lingual Russia, then very soon it will completely merge with it - and will not need either a separate hetman or a separate foreman. - then it will forever remain separate and will always need independent rulers ... "
    So, our current rulers (Wasserman continues) are acting according to the recipe of Hetman Doroshenko ... "
    http://archive.censor.net.ua/go/offers--ResourceType--forum
    1. 0
      2 October 2013 20: 27
      exactly so, blacksmiths. I read the comments and remembered this speech by Anatoly Alexandrovich.
  39. Akim
    +3
    2 October 2013 15: 48
    Of course, it’s probably nice to mock the neighbors? To make it seem like his g ... smells. And let’s say for the first time I saw at our exercises that they put a cape on the tank.
    1. maxvet
      0
      2 October 2013 16: 58
      As a non-specialist, Akim, please explain to me what is in the cloak that you first saw it? (Without any banter, it’s just interesting)
      1. Akim
        0
        2 October 2013 17: 15
        Quote: maxvet
        please explain what is in the cloak,

        Not what is in it, but the very presence. Previously, camouflage was limited only to branches. In general, you need to look more clearly. The fragment in the video is hard to judge. For example, at CIT, I saw a new camouflage network. There were still quad bikes and someone saw a buggy.
        1. +1
          2 October 2013 18: 03
          Quote: Akim
          There were still quad bikes and someone saw a buggy.

          This is a new type of armored personnel carrier, where the thickness of the armor tends to zero.
          1. Akim
            0
            2 October 2013 18: 09
            Quote: Genry
            This is a new type of armored personnel carrier,

            These are cars from the razvedroda 80th airmobile so far. They say that a large order for them for the army and the police will go to Kiev motorcycle next year,
  40. 128mgb
    +1
    2 October 2013 15: 57
    Quote: Kars

    Do you think Putin’s only prerogative is to fly the Su-27 and head flocks of geese on a hangplane?

    Well, that kind of thing worked out. And the geese are alive and rockets, that is, the plane is intact.
    1. Akim
      +2
      2 October 2013 16: 05
      Quote: 128mgb
      And the geese are alive and rockets, that is, the plane is intact.

      The third time the flock rose after the FSB uncles threatened the cranes: “We have your children.” am
      1. +3
        2 October 2013 16: 24
        Guys guess sho stick in my pants? laughing

        That didn’t guess - tennis ball !!!!
      2. maxvet
        +3
        2 October 2013 16: 45
        Oh, what a terrible FSB- the cranes threatened, and the geese flew lol
        1. Akim
          +2
          2 October 2013 16: 52
          Quote: maxvet
          They threatened the cranes, and the geese flew

          I'm certainly not an ornithologist, but I can distinguish a crane about a goose.
          1. maxvet
            +1
            2 October 2013 16: 56
            it means there in any way the FSB officer decided to penetrate the beyond the border, decided to mow under the crane ... wassat
          2. MG42
            +3
            2 October 2013 18: 43
            Yanukovych wouldn’t be able to fly .. Born to crawl can’t fly ..
      3. +1
        2 October 2013 17: 46
        Quote: Akim
        how the FSB uncles threatened the cranes: - We have your children.

        It's five !!! laughing
  41. Kowalsky
    +1
    2 October 2013 16: 23
    The prosecutor's office is now checking whether there was any explosion at all, and who is to blame if it was blown up in the wrong place. Much more interesting is why journalists were banned from filming Yanukovych's helicopter. It's funny, I saw this bird a couple of times flying over the house when the "guarantor" was in Donetsk. Apparently now the SBU will come to me :)
    1. Captain Vrungel
      0
      2 October 2013 17: 28
      And why did everyone decide to discuss the TTD ATGM. Maybe someone quietly launched a tactical assault on the guarantor, but did it, but got into the lake and drowned out the fish. So that each missile is aimed, Ukraine strictly fulfills. On the ground. In heaven, And at sea.
  42. Jib
    Jib
    0
    2 October 2013 16: 32
    Article FUFLO. Although, if this POTS Yanyk hit the head with a rocket, not many would regret it.
    The military, in a comment to Radio Liberty, suggest that the poachers used the moment of the exercise and jammed the fish.

    Yesterday residents of Grushev in the Lviv region announced the explosion of a shell from a landfill near their village. Nadezhda Smolin, a resident of Grusheva, located 17 km from the landfill, told Radio Liberty that she saw an explosion in a lake half a kilometer from her house during an exercise. The woman assumes it was a shell.

    There were fishermen on the shore who were not injured, but a powerful explosion drowned out the fish in the lake. Nadezhda Smolin says that because of the strong shooting at the firing range in her house, glass windows shook.

    “Fortunately, that shell hit the lake, not the village. Fortunately, everything turned out like this, we already thought that the war had begun. (We probably thought that the Russians were coming) One explosion was especially powerful,” the woman said.

    The first shot at the exercises was made by the President himself. (It can be assumed that he missed, and what he thumped from. Flew across the 17km into the lake. The locals shouted as always, - Glory to the Heroes, the guarantor of independence, - glory forever.).

    Assessing the course of the exercises, Yanukovych said that certain mistakes were made, which professionals know about, and these errors will be corrected. (Next time he will not miss). soldier good
  43. 0
    2 October 2013 16: 34
    "The windows were broken, the roof was blown off," one of the witnesses of the incident told 24 TV channel.
    This is probably when you get into the Ukrainian tank!
  44. rocketman
    +2
    2 October 2013 17: 08
    Bullshit, of course, is complete.
    I'll tell you something else, so to speak, as a version - at the same time, as LOCAL residents showed (and this is documented), a Polish An-300 (forest patrol) flew 2 meters into Ukrainian territory near Grushev. Nobody saw it, but they saw it. Neither the air defense officers nor the border guards saw. The question is - what did the locals smoke and what mushrooms did they collect? Likewise, the fishermen - initially the information was about only two fishermen who saw that something fell into the lake. By the way, it is located 20 km from the landfill. That's all. And then, to the ambassador of a couple of bottles, everything is like fishing: "I pull-pull, and there - in-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-t, such a fish is a miracle catfish in a hundred kilograms, and behind him a three-ton rocket yes how it bangs that all the tents are blown away and the windows are broken! "
    - so there are no glasses in the tents ?!
    - how not ?! Here are broken bottles!
    etc. that everyone can write to the best of their imagination. Maybe this is the An-2 Polish UR launched all the foul fish. Or maybe the guys just dabbled in dynamite, and when the police arrived, they said that a huge rocket fell into the lake ...
    1. Akim
      +1
      2 October 2013 17: 21
      Quote: rocketman
      . Nobody saw this, but they saw. Neither air defense officers nor border guards saw it. The question is what the locals smoked and what mushrooms did they collect?

      In my youth, when the gym was painted, I sniffed paints and could not cross the border. Apparently a 70-meter column of water (two ten-story buildings) from the same opera.
      1. +1
        2 October 2013 18: 14
        Does your president like to paint? laughing
        1. Akim
          0
          2 October 2013 18: 31
          Quote: leon-iv
          Does your president like to paint?

          I don’t know, he has a troubled past. In general, I talked about fishermen.
  45. +2
    2 October 2013 18: 07
    Well, sho you got used to it? Hai flap to show off.
  46. +2
    2 October 2013 18: 18
    This is svidomye news about the beloved by all the people of Hetman. It has nothing to do with real life and real events, just like Ukraine itself in the last 20 years.
    There is already a tip from Kosatka at 16:32 "The Russians are coming!" For all such destruction in Nezalezhnaya. soldier
    1. -1
      2 October 2013 20: 48
      By the way, Kiev became a decent European city only in the second half of the 19th century, as one of the cities of the Russian empire. Kazan is becoming very beautiful, modern and industrial in Russia. that's just one trouble for the Russian kosh. this is to say that the Russians should not allow any crooks from frantic and reckless, scented and plagued-Muslim crooks from the former to roam their land. I ask you not to write me in skinheads. I am Russian, but, unfortunately, I do not live in Russia.
  47. -1
    2 October 2013 18: 47
    It would be better to buy these "STUGNA-P" from Ukraine and send it to Syrian militants as a gift from the US Congress through third companies to "establish democracy" .. bully
    1. 0
      2 October 2013 20: 59
      Quote: MIKHAN
      It would be better to buy these "STUGNA-P" from Ukraine and send it to Syrian militants as a gift from the US Congress through third companies to "establish democracy" ..

      Meehan! Believe me, the rockets are excellent! It's just that whatever our prezik would take in his "skillful" hands turns into a piece of shit ... He even gave a wreath in his face because of his inept handling ... laughing
  48. 0
    2 October 2013 19: 23
    It’s good that no planes flew nearby.
  49. Akim
    0
    2 October 2013 20: 19
    According to the news broadcast. Apparently, something thumped from the plane. The military deny, but I don’t believe them. But this is not Yanyk with a superPTUR at a distance of 20 km and a high-explosive bomb power.
  50. 0
    2 October 2013 20: 33
    Quote: Akim
    According to the news broadcast. Apparently, something thumped from the plane. The military deny, but I don’t believe them. But this is not Yanyk with a superPTUR at a distance of 20 km and a high-explosive bomb power.

    Maybe TNT mixed with fat ...? did not calculate the ingredient ... Clearly secret development!
  51. 0
    2 October 2013 22: 01
    Boy! Why did they kill the rocket? They did it from STUGNA! What more is being used in the country! Both in the Rada and for missiles...
  52. put
    put
    0
    2 October 2013 22: 08
    In 1977, exercises were held at this training ground in which observers from NATO were present for the first time.
    I had a chance to ride around the headmistresses in an armored personnel carrier. There are plenty of places. It probably happened with the rocket. Just not anti-tank, but some kind of secret development. The story about the fate of the President is a cover from any stupid questions.
  53. 0
    3 October 2013 08: 37
    This is an advertisement for a Ukrainian rocket!!! Despite its small size, it has such a powerful warhead that the fountain hit the lake 70-80 m away and broke windows and tore off the roofs of tents! laughing
  54. a boat
    -1
    3 October 2013 17: 53
    Quote: Povshnik
    It is strange that the ATGM lifted a column of water by 70-80 meters, I doubt that 152 mm high will raise such a column. And how could fishermen end up in the SECTOR? The article is clearly custom-made in order to defame Ukrainians. Article minus.

    I agree with you 100% in the article, minus definitely! The logic is simply 0, although there are specialists who add to the article!

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