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Ukraine will spend on the space program 323 million dollars

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President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych on Monday approved a five-year state-wide targeted scientific and technical space program of Ukraine, for the implementation of which it is envisaged to provide 2,58 billion hryvnia or 323 million dollars.


2,58 billion UAH (323 million dollars) will be allocated from the state budget of Ukraine from 1,12 billion hryvnia (140 million dollars) provided for the implementation of the program, said Yanukovych on Monday, ITAR-TASS reports.

At the same time, the program is also planned to be implemented through investments and other sources, including using the mechanisms of public-private partnership.

As stated in the text of the resolution, the goal of the program is to increase the effectiveness of the use of space potential for solving urgent problems of the socio-economic, cultural, informational, scientific and educational development of society, ensuring national security and defense and protecting Ukraine’s geopolitical interests.

The document proposes, in particular, to carry out remote sensing of the Earth from space, develop space telecommunication and navigation systems, conduct scientific research, create space complexes, etc. The program is scheduled to launch the first Ukrainian telecommunications satellite "Swan".

At the beginning of 2012, the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine approved an action plan for the implementation of state policy in the field of space activities for the period up to 2032.

Among other things, the concept provides for the implementation of space experiments at international space stations, including with the participation of domestic research cosmonauts as part of international crews.

According to the program, Ukraine will take part in the study of the Moon, using domestic spacecraft.

The creation of a space rocket complex with a Cyclone-4 rocket carrier, a space rocket complex with a rocket carrier with environmentally friendly fuel Mayak, and an aerospace complex Air Launch are envisaged. The implementation of the concept involves four stages - from 2011 to 2032 of the year.
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  1. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 2 October 2013 11: 42 New
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    Ukraine will take part in the exploration of the moon using domestic spacecraft.

    Ya cried))))))
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 2 October 2013 11: 45 New
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      The rocket industry in Ukraine was strong once, but they will not be allowed to develop this direction primarily by Europeans ... they have their own space program. Ukraine could successfully integrate with the Russian space program ...
      1. Rattenfanger
        Rattenfanger 2 October 2013 11: 50 New
        +8
        "In Ukraine" rocket science was not. Never. Rocket building was in the USSR as a whole and in the USSR in particular.
        1. apostol88
          apostol88 2 October 2013 12: 16 New
          -8
          Well then, in Russia there was no rocket science. hi
          1. Rattenfanger
            Rattenfanger 2 October 2013 12: 53 New
            +2
            In Russia it is now. At the very least, but there is.
          2. seller trucks
            seller trucks 2 October 2013 12: 59 New
            -1
            Quote: apostol88
            Well then, in Russia there was no rocket science.


            Yes, hello, the development of the so-called "Ukrainian rocket science" depends entirely on the desire of Russia, and not the pathetic attempts of Yanyk, take for example the products of Yuzhmash: Dnipro and Zenit, what is the most important thing in them? right, engines, manufactured by Energomash (Russia), but without an engine? that's right, they won’t fly anywhere, so better let the collars do
            1. apostol88
              apostol88 2 October 2013 14: 08 New
              +1
              Cyclone 4 is being completed, and engines are being assembled in Ukraine! Alcantara Cosmodrome at the very least, but building up. And also Europeans put a Ukrainian marching engine on Vega! And it seems that the Indians also made an order to create an engine.hi
              1. seller trucks
                seller trucks 2 October 2013 14: 40 New
                +2
                Quote: apostol88
                4 cyclone is being completed, and engines in Ukraine are being assembled!


                lol these are those on poisonous heptyl, Duc, this is the legacy of the "totalitarian" past. considered a dead end development branch in rocket science and harmful.

                Heptyl is a rocket fuel based on asymmetric dimethylhydrazine (UDMH) - a highly toxic substance of 1 hazard class. World Health Organization UDMH is listed as a highly hazardous chemical. Heptyl has a general toxic and skin irritating effect on the human body. In the body, heptyl is distributed evenly, affecting the liver, central nervous, cardiovascular and hematopoietic systems. Its characteristic properties: volatile, dissolves in water in any ratio, is capable of accumulating in the body, is easily oxidized, thus forming more dangerous compounds.
                1. apostol88
                  apostol88 2 October 2013 15: 26 New
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                  Improved environmental friendliness. Since Cyclone-4 uses highly toxic fuel components, there is a need to minimize environmental risks. In the new refueling system under development, fuel for all stages enters the launch vehicle from the lower end of the 1st stage on the launch pad, which helps to neutralize toxic rocket fuel vapors. So do not worry about side effects. wassat
                  1. seller trucks
                    seller trucks 2 October 2013 15: 49 New
                    +1
                    Quote: apostol88
                    Improved environmental friendliness.


                    a side effect will be when this “cyclops” swings into the ocean, missiles unfinished
                    1. apostol88
                      apostol88 2 October 2013 16: 05 New
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                      But you are "Completed." Can you tell me what Proton works on? am
                      1. seller trucks
                        seller trucks 2 October 2013 16: 17 New
                        +3
                        Quote: apostol88
                        But you are "Completed." Can you tell me what Proton works on?


                        predictable question, "we" in anticipation of the "Angara" with oxygen-kerosene engines, and you? lol

                        the whole world, held his breath: the first Ukrainian on Mysyats
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                      3. apostol88
                        apostol88 2 October 2013 16: 28 New
                        -1
                        While the Mayak launch vehicle is being developed, the fuel in them is also Oxygen + kerosene. yes
                        But somehow the first Russian was not there yet! laughing
                      4. seller trucks
                        seller trucks 2 October 2013 16: 45 New
                        +2
                        Quote: apostol88
                        While the Mayak launch vehicle is being developed, the fuel in them is also Oxygen + kerosene.


                        is it like with the BTR-4 and the "Bastion"? well then, I'm just choking with pride for you good

                        Quote: apostol88
                        But somehow the first Russian was not there yet!


                        Yes, I strongly doubt that there was anyone at all. you don’t be offended just listening to such a heresy from the country - a bankrupt is at least ridiculous. Azarov, today drenched the bark, asking for money from the EU.

                        http://www.nr2.ru/kiev/463091.html

                        He also talks about space
                      5. apostol88
                        apostol88 2 October 2013 16: 58 New
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                        Started for rockets, finished with armored vehicles. what
                        Btr 4 normal car, what the Iraqis are twisting their nose, it is most likely America or Russia connected. Whether it is Russia that wrote off the debt.
                        And about the Bastion, then the tanks are going. smile Well, when we become bankrupt then rejoice, but not now. hi
                      6. seller trucks
                        seller trucks 2 October 2013 17: 07 New
                        +3
                        Quote: apostol88
                        BTR 4 norms machine, what the Iraqis nose twist,


                        then yes, but this is very secret information, damned Mos .... Iraqis persuaded, to be friends against Ukraine.

                        Quote: apostol88
                        And about the Bastion, then the tanks are going


                        don’t tell my slippers, 2 of the tank for 2 of the year, are you taking accessories from the Moon?
                      7. apostol88
                        apostol88 2 October 2013 17: 34 New
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                        2 ready + 3 on the final assembly will be ready in the next month, and 15 in the line should be in time before the end of the year.
                      8. seller trucks
                        seller trucks 2 October 2013 17: 50 New
                        +2
                        Quote: apostol88
                        2 ready + 3 on the final assembly will be ready in the next month, and 15 in the line should be in time before the end of the year.


                        how many tanks of the Ministry of Defense of Thailand were transferred over the 2 of the year?
                      9. apostol88
                        apostol88 2 October 2013 18: 16 New
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                        0___________
  • zennon
    zennon 2 October 2013 19: 40 New
    +2
    and engines in Ukraine are collecting!

    They are assembling for Zenit and engines of the second stage, and according to the assignment of NPO Energomash, the city of Khimki. RD-171 engines for the first stage are being made in Khimki. Yes and not only engines. An acceleration unit, for example. In general, there are 60 percent of components from Russia. the start is almost bankrupt. The Boeing refused it after the catastrophe of the Zenit-3SL launch vehicle with the Intelsat-27 (IS-27) communications satellite, made by Boeing from a sea launch half a year ago.
  • AVV
    AVV 2 October 2013 14: 33 New
    +2
    After joining Europe, the Europeans will begin to systematically destroy the Soviet backlog, scientific, industrial, defense, they will make an agricultural appendage of Europe from the country, a territory where you can fuse anything you like, starting from production waste and ending with consumer goods !!! And competitors don’t needed! Here is the alignment, Mr. Yanukovych! You will not be full of fat alone!
  • Airman
    Airman 2 October 2013 11: 55 New
    +2
    Ukraine will take part in the exploration of the moon using domestic spacecraft.
    And where are they going to build a spaceport? After all, the stages of the launch vehicle will fall on the territory of other states, or will they agree with the Kazakhs about Baikonur?
  • gladiatorakz
    gladiatorakz 2 October 2013 12: 01 New
    -4
    Quote: Rattenfanger
    Ya cried))))))

    What language is it written, crybaby? laughing
    1. Rattenfanger
      Rattenfanger 2 October 2013 12: 26 New
      -1
      In the Albanian. More questions?
      1. gladiatorakz
        gladiatorakz 2 October 2013 12: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: Rattenfanger
        In the Albanian. More questions?

        Question: how is the map of Russia consistent with the Albanian?
        1. Rattenfanger
          Rattenfanger 2 October 2013 12: 52 New
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          Bgggg))) At the window dress the blocks constantly fell out with his head to break, huh?)))
          Counter-question: where were the map of Russia and the Albantian ezig related?)
          1. gladiatorakz
            gladiatorakz 2 October 2013 13: 07 New
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            Quote: Rattenfanger
            Bgggg))) At the window dress the blocks constantly fell out with his head to break, huh?)))
            Counter-question: where were the map of Russia and the Albantian ezig related?)

            1. The head is trying to work as intended. I broke objects (mainly) with my hands and feet.
            2.On the profile picture - Russia, and in the comments - Olbantsky! Inconsistent. From paragraph 2. it follows: 2.1. Feel free to use the Russian language - use a distorted parody. 2.2. Behind the map of Russia without experiencing due respect for it and its culture. 2.3. Commentator's age is up to 10-12 years. Owing to this and the absence of the Fatherland belt, I did not manage to realize the relationship between the Russian language, its culture and Patriotism. Well, and accordingly, neglect of the Brothers Ukrainians.
            laughing Something like this.
            1. zmey_gadukin
              zmey_gadukin 2 October 2013 13: 11 New
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              Quote: gladiatorakz
              1. The head is trying to work as intended. I broke objects (mainly) with my hands and feet. 2. On the profile picture - Russia, and in the comments - Olbansky! Inconsistent. From paragraph 2. it follows: 2.1. Feel free to use the Russian language - use a distorted parody. 2.2. Behind the map of Russia without experiencing due respect for it and its culture. 2.3. Commentator's age is up to 10-12 years. Owing to this and the absence of the Fatherland belt, I did not manage to realize the relationship between the Russian language, its culture and Patriotism. Well, and accordingly, neglect of the Brothers Ukrainians. Something like this.



              Uryl)))
            2. Rattenfanger
              Rattenfanger 2 October 2013 13: 52 New
              +4
              Apparently, the main purpose of the head, in your opinion, is "I eat in it." I’ll explain: to correlate the map of Russia and the use of the widespread on the open spaces of Tyrnet (where you are now trying to assert itself as the defender of the Great and Mighty in particular and the entire Russian Culture as a whole) of the “Albantian mission”, and draw conclusions based on this about the constraint of the Russian language, culture and the absence of patriotism is possible only in a state of chronic alcohol intoxication. Or having a system of logical thinking that is fundamentally different from the place to be among homo at least at times sapiens. My opinion, and not necessarily true.
              Although ... there may be another option. How is Goblin? "This is a sacred oak grove. After death, the souls of ensigns and senior commandos get here" (c) But not a fact.
              The presence-indispensable- of emoticons in your messages and an attempt to accurately determine the age of the interlocutor within 10-12 years suggests thoughts of the early puberty of my opponent (you, therefore).
              Z.Y. And about the "fatherly belt" is, perhaps, to Freud.)
              1. gladiatorakz
                gladiatorakz 2 October 2013 20: 15 New
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                Quote: Rattenfanger
                I’ll explain: to correlate the map of Russia and the use of the widespread on the open spaces of Tyrnet (where you are now trying to assert itself as the defender of the Great and Mighty in particular and the entire Russian Culture as a whole) of the “Albantian mission”, and draw conclusions based on this about the constraint of the Russian language, culture and the absence of patriotism is possible only in a state of chronic alcohol intoxication. Or having a system of logical thinking that is fundamentally different from the place to be among homo at least at times sapiens. My opinion, and not necessarily true.

                Well, you have porridge. He interfered, he did not understand what. That is, the question of the purpose of vandalism over one’s own language, really Great and Mighty, is a way of self-affirmation? And what is the superiority of the Albantian quiz over Russian can a person ask only in a state of chronic alcohol intoxication? Indeed, my logic is completely different from yours.
                The opinion is not yours. You still need to grow up to your own. They told you that it’s cool to vigorously and forgetting to apply where you eat, you joyfully spoil the culture of your people. Well, at the same time, Ukraine too. Because a man who does not respect himself despises everyone around him because of his weakness. And he has no brothers.
  • DEMENTIY
    DEMENTIY 2 October 2013 12: 18 New
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    Ya cry ...

    Are you laughing? But in vain! Yanyk said - Yanyk did it! Tremble the world community - our moon!
    I didn’t get in a hurry - I ran to buy a plot on the Moon.
    1. MG42
      MG42 2 October 2013 12: 20 New
      +4
      This clown said a lot of things before the election, you can get his election program and laugh ..
      1. koosss
        koosss 2 October 2013 13: 40 New
        +3
        Ukraine with its problems now only invests in space programs yes
        1. MG42
          MG42 2 October 2013 13: 44 New
          +6
          Quote: koosss
          Ukraine with its problems now only invests in space programs

          Yes, it’s a complete bullshit, as with the “Vitina thousand” there is still no money to pay people money for the debts of the Sberbank of the USSR, space is a game for the European public on the eve of the signing of the association agreement they say we are a great space power .. bully
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 2 October 2013 15: 06 New
    +2
    Quote: Article
    Ukraine will take part in the exploration of the moon using domestic spacecraft.

    A strategic supply of fat will be used for their production! laughing
    But seriously, how, from what and with the help of whom is Yanukovych going to do all this ?? request Will suck from a finger, or will it pull us again?
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 2 October 2013 19: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: GSH-18
      Will suck from a finger, or will it pull us again?

      Will sell a batch of bacon to Iran. laughing
  • domokl
    domokl 3 October 2013 05: 48 New
    0
    laughing And why is not the money laid in the exploration of the Mariana Trench? Antarctica? Mars?
    , destroyed the most powerful space industry, and now allocate money for joint projects ...
  • svp67
    svp67 2 October 2013 11: 45 New
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    ... the air-space complex "Air Launch".

    I can only say one thing - God help you. I will be very glad if you succeed ...
    1. MG42
      MG42 2 October 2013 12: 14 New
      +6
      Quote: svp67
      I will be very glad if you succeed ...

      That's it IF, there is no money = a hole in the budget, dog cold = heating in Ukrainian cities did not turn on everything is freezing, only partially in Kiev and Vinnitsa ..
    2. seller trucks
      seller trucks 2 October 2013 12: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      I will be very glad if you succeed ...


      certainly will happen only not in this life:

      Yuzhmash plant in Italy was offered to make dog collars good
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-118582.html

      every cricket know your six
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 2 October 2013 15: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      ... the air-space complex "Air Launch".

      And, well, if so, then by the 32nd year we can cheh thread and bungled. If the cut takes place without fanaticism.
      Quote article: * It is planned to create a space rocket complex with a Cyclone-4 launch vehicle, a space rocket complex with an environmentally friendly fuel carrier *
      ETOGES is nothing but in fat ?! lol
      I apologize for the irony, good luck in this not simple matter. yes
      1. Cat
        Cat 2 October 2013 15: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: GSH-18
        Quote article: * It is planned to create a space rocket complex with a Cyclone-4 launch vehicle, a space rocket complex with a launch vehicle with environmentally friendly fuel *
        ETOGES is nothing but in fat ?!

        It just means: the damage to nature from this carrier will be exactly the same as that from the one with "environmentally dirty" fuel - but you will have to pay several times more =)
  • Altona
    Altona 2 October 2013 11: 53 New
    +1
    Broadcast what will be these spacecraft? On a space mov? lol
  • seller trucks
    seller trucks 2 October 2013 12: 01 New
    +5
    President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych on Monday approved a five-year state-wide targeted scientific and technical space program of Ukraine, for the implementation of which it is envisaged to provide 2,58 billion hryvnia or 323 million dollars.


    after the statements of Dundukovich about saving Europe from Ukraine by the crisis, I would have thought hard about the sanity of this.
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 2 October 2013 12: 03 New
    +3
    I heard about three cosmic powers: the USSR, the USA and China, the USSR collapsed, the USA die, China remains and, apparently, Great and Mighty Ukraine, it sets off to "plow the expanses of the universe."
    1. avt
      avt 2 October 2013 12: 32 New
      +4
      Quote: Standard Oil
      Mighty Ukraine, will go "to plow the expanses of the universe."

      It will be cooler. In the future, astral troops will be created. The astral commander is already there. laughing
      Quote: Altona
      Broadcast what will be these spacecraft? On a space mov?

      Well, they’ll quickly solve it, there is experience - Zaporozhye, Ukraine logbook is choven. laughing
  • Garik
    Garik 2 October 2013 12: 13 New
    +3
    It would be better if the money was sent for the reconstruction of the Chernihiv-Kiev road laughing and in Kiev itself it would not hurt to patch up))) The Black Sea resorts are also in decline. Another cut what else can you say only this time also made laugh))
  • arb0905
    arb0905 2 October 2013 12: 18 New
    +5
    To save fuel, the lunar rover will be on muscular traction
  • Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 2 October 2013 12: 19 New
    0
    ... for the implementation of which 2,58 billion hryvnias or 323 million dollars are provided.

    Fresh tradition ... laughing To begin with, God forbid that at least 0,58 billion is reached the program. You shouldn’t count on 2 right away, because they will go to stopudovo under the “cut”. The rest - who knows, who knows ... The armored personnel carriers for Iraq still can’t get to him. lol
  • Akim
    Akim 2 October 2013 12: 26 New
    +1
    This unfortunate Swan has been launched for three years. In fact, Ukraine now has only one device in orbit - Sich-2.
    1. apostol88
      apostol88 2 October 2013 14: 17 New
      +1
      Covered already! crying According to the message of the State Space Agency of Ukraine on December 12, 2012, communication with the Sich-2 spacecraft was cut off. The commission established on this fact established "the impossibility of further use of the Sich-2 spacecraft in connection with the final loss of energy supply."
  • gladiatorakz
    gladiatorakz 2 October 2013 12: 31 New
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    Well done, that there is a support and development program. The main thing is that it works. The information is positive.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 2 October 2013 13: 14 New
    +2
    with environmentally friendly fuel "Mayak"
    Dung chtoli? Well then, all strategic reserves of this fuel will go to the Ukrainian space program.
    But seriously, I do not believe in the success of the space program of Ukraine. Too expensive industry. So expensive that not every financially prosperous country can afford to develop space exploration. And about Ukraine there is nothing to say. Only in cooperation with someone will they be able to achieve anything.
  • zmey_gadukin
    zmey_gadukin 2 October 2013 13: 25 New
    +4
    It would be better to spend on the development of electronics, computer science, programming, as well as biology and bioengineering.
    The fastest growing areas ... and space is not for Ukraine. For now, anyway.
  • starhina01
    starhina01 2 October 2013 14: 29 New
    +2
    I believe that for Ukraine there are many areas in which it could invest money with the greatest benefit for its development. But the space program will hit the budget hard and won't solve a huge bunch of boiling problems. MONEY FOR THE WIND. hi
  • leon-iv
    leon-iv 2 October 2013 14: 40 New
    0
    loll and even double face palm. Although mriy credible.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 2 October 2013 19: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: leon-iv
      loll and even double face palm. Although mriy credible.

      Translate. what
  • HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 2 October 2013 15: 11 New
    +3
    According to the program, Ukraine will take part in the study of the moon using domestic spacecraft. It is planned to create a space rocket complex with a Cyclone-4 rocket carrier, a space rocket complex with a Mayak environmentally friendly fuel carrier, and an Air Launch aviation space complex.
    Is it all for 323 million dollars? If everything works out, then I applaud while standing, and we can safely say that corruption is negative there (it does not steal, but also pays out of pocket)
  • smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 2 October 2013 15: 57 New
    +5
    So:
    What is planned:
    launch the first Ukrainian telecommunications satellite "Swan"
    to carry out remote sensing of the Earth from space
    to develop space telecommunication and navigation systems
    conduct research
    create space complexes
    etc.
    until 2032:
    space experiments at international space stations, including with the participation of domestic astronauts-researchers as part of international crews
    take part in the exploration of the moon using domestic spacecraft
    Provides for the creation of:
    space rocket complex with the Cyclone-4 launch vehicle
    space rocket complex with a launcher with clean fuel "Mayak"
    Aviation and space complex "Air Launch"
    at the same time, the government allocates everything about everything until 2017:
    from the state budget - 1,12 billion UAH / 140 million dollars /
    for reference :
    In 2013, the commercial production cost of the Proton-M launch vehicle was $ 40 million.
    The cost of one Proton launch from the Baikonur Cosmodrome is estimated at $ 80-100 million.
    Total: 40 + 80 = $ 120 million
    I remind you that before 2017, the Ukrainian Government allocated as much as $ 140 million
    No, do not fly ukrokosmonavtam! Or fly but only on one Proton without a return ticket.
  • Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 2 October 2013 15: 59 New
    +2
    But it’s great when a person has a dream! Though delusional, unrealizable ... But to think about the well-being of your people is not at all interesting and boring. Another thing is cosmos, so far and unattainable. You can always dream ... what
  • rocketman
    rocketman 2 October 2013 16: 58 New
    +2
    Quote: koosss
    Ukraine with its problems now only invests in space programs

    And what are such problems in Ukraine that it is impossible to invest in space? And who can? Or maybe the country wants (and can) stop being an agricultural appendage?
    Quote: starhina01
    I believe that for Ukraine there are many areas in which it could invest money with the greatest benefit for its development. But the space program will hit the budget hard and won't solve a huge bunch of boiling problems. MONEY FOR THE WIND.

    Well, everyone asserts that there are problems in Ukraine, but they don’t say which ones. And you can’t go into space.
    It is very reminiscent of the behavior of the Americans, who claim that in Russia there is no democracy, and Assad must leave. It doesn’t matter why, well, there is no democracy and Assad must leave, and that’s all! By the way, under Stalin and Khrushchev, the country and the people didn’t show off either, but Yuri Gagarin flew into space and the machines flew to the moon. based on your logic, it was necessary not to spend money on outer space, but on the pupil and pants for the people. That is, everything is taken away and divided. You, dear ones, have the logic of the Sharikovs. Think about it. I have the honor.
    1. Omskgasmyas
      Omskgasmyas 2 October 2013 18: 39 New
      -1
      Not so long ago, Russia was a raw materials appendage of Ukraine. Ukraine proudly abandoned Russian raw materials and fuel and stopped most of its plants. those who are independent think that it was better to be an asshole of an elephant (with an EU appendage) than a fly's head (TS). Everyone chooses his own path, but not everyone realizes where he will lead.
  • Sharingan
    Sharingan 2 October 2013 18: 44 New
    -1
    Russian cheers-patriots often write that Ukrainians are brotherly people. Instead of supporting and rejoicing for the brothers, some kind of stupid jokes and insults begin. And then they make surprised faces - "but they don’t like us and they climb into Europe." So, let's Ukrainians, do what you should, want in Europe - go to Europe, it’s better than similar Russian “brothers”.
    1. SAG
      SAG 3 October 2013 02: 49 New
      0
      Although I, as you put it, a patriot, I completely agree!
  • Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 2 October 2013 19: 38 New
    +3
    Quote: Sharingan
    Instead of supporting and rejoicing for the brothers, some kind of stupid jokes and insults begin.

    Yes, because in our hearts they have already been released by and large, the government is already training in protective measures against the EU. Only without jerking type thanks allowed. And here is a conversation about Yanyk’s desire to master space in one flight (post of the forum member Kuznetsov 1977).
  • Sour
    Sour 2 October 2013 22: 38 New
    0
    Given the fact that Ukraine has an unbearable state debt, and a negative foreign exchange balance, Ukraine spends other people's money on space, not its own.
    There is nothing at all there.
  • Cristall
    Cristall 3 October 2013 11: 07 New
    +2
    In general, you can’t post topics about Ukraine in this format. You need standard ones - everything is bad and worse ...
    So at least the comments are appropriate. And so not a single worthwhile comment about opportunities other than emotional outbursts.
    And of course it’s strange - Ukraine is a poor country - but it is engaged in space ...
    sometimes it’s so annoying to read Russian posts - as if they decided to put us in a word to the level of Guatemala's scientific development.
    I personally have never filled a post of relevant content anywhere in the direction of Russia. Even when everything was bad and all this was true.