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Putin made a decision that was made twice before him in Russian history: in 37 and after Stalin’s death

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Putin made a decision that was made twice before him in Russian history: in 37 and after Stalin’s death
Economist Mikhail Khazin - on the struggle of the Rothschilds and the International Monetary Fund in the Russian open spaces.



Last week, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev put the question squarely: either the economic model is changing in the country - or we are heading for it. The same was said at the Sochi investment forum by the Minister of Economic Development Alexei Ulyukayev. According to the well-known economist, the president of the consulting company Neocon, Mikhail Khazin (he visited Yekaterinburg with a public lecture), Medvedev’s speech is only a pale manifestation of the war of Russian elite groups, behind which are much more powerful forces. What unites Putin, Obama and the Rothschilds? And who is patronizing Medvedev and Ulyukayev?

- Mikhail Leonidovich, at the end of last week, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev published an article about Russia's economic choice. Its general meaning is that the state should become compact and efficient, create an attractive investment climate (this also implies judicial reform), together with the society, control monopolies, support business, education and innovation, growth points in the regions, but it’s pointless to help uncompetitive industries. reductions, retraining, finding a new job, moving, otherwise we will be in the abyss. But after all, all these initiatives will lead to numerous conflicts. Is the Medvedev government ready for them?


“First of all, I don’t read Medvedev’s articles.” There is no time to read meaningless texts. Secondly, it is really strange. Vladimir Putin declares that it is necessary to maintain the standard of living and carry out the May decrees, and his prime minister in the "blue eye" at the Sochi forum claims that there is nothing to hold on to support jobs. What's happening? I explain. Need a little look back two decades.

In the world until some time there was only one financial elite. And all of our statesmen who emerged in 1991 year, lined up for this elite. Just because there was no one to line up. And we didn’t have people of the scale of Lenin or Stalin. And then there is a crisis. Because of which? His reason was described by Adam Smith, who said that in order to deepen the division of labor, it is necessary to expand the market. The first powerful expansion was in the First World War, then in the Second. In the period of the collapse of the USSR, there was another expansion. And now everything - the expansion of the market can not be. How to save the situation? Need to stimulate demand. How? Give money to the public. But today, and so issued a lot of loans. So, you need to change the financial system, introduce a new currency and lend to it. And in the year 2011 [International Monetary Fund - Ed.] It is decided that the Central Bank of central banks will be created, which will give money in a special currency and optimize the global monetary system. And if all politicians are on the content of the financial elite, then it is impossible to refuse such a decision.

What to do [for those who are against the intentions of the IMF - Ed.]? It is necessary to make the IMF unable to function. And then the head of the IMF, Dominic Stros-Kahn, is "taken under the white ruchenki", accusing him of raping a maid from Guinea. He leaves his post. My acquaintances working in the presidential administration once called me and asked: “What does the Stros-Kan case mean?” I say: what about that? You know, they say, before the Stros Kahn affair, the creation of the Central Bank of Central Banks passed through all the international meetings of the heads of state: G8, G20, and so on. And after his arrest, she suddenly disappeared. I say: why are you surprised? As a result, now this topic is not.

After the Stros-Kahn case, the issue (namely, as I said, is the only salvation in a crisis, when the structure of transnational companies is economically unprofitable, and it is no longer possible to expand the markets) was in the hands of [Obamovsky - ed.] White House in Washington. And no one else roars. Because everyone understands that if someone is against it, then immediately there will be some kind of maid.

And this is where the elite split. The first group [of Obama - Ed.] Is in favor of reformatting the entire financial system: make several independent currency centers based on the dollar, euro, yuan, rupee and ruble (the latter is based on the basis of a strongly expanded Customs Union).

Another group [IMF group - ed.] Believes that it is necessary to keep everything as it is and to seize the Federal Reserve System back (the emission center of America - ed.). She began to move to the post of Fed Larry Summers. In the 90-ies, this figure gave advice to Chubais how to carry out reforms in Russia. The personality is colorful. Stamp on it nowhere to put. Even in the USA it is called kleptomania. Obama and his group did not want this, and they were told: if you interfere, we will arrange a crisis for you in 2014. But last week, the issue with Summers was resolved. He withdrew his candidacy. And literally the next day after this, Putin gives his speech at Valdai, in which he says that Russia needs a new identity, homosexuality is not our profile and much more. Do you understand how the wind blows?


- How does the conflict in the world elite affect the Russian power groups?


- Simultaneously with these processes and after the Stros Kahn affair, our Russian elite also split into two parts. One of them decided that it was necessary to develop an independent financial center, and the other that it was necessary to remain in a subordinate position under the IMF and all attempts to crush independence with an iron fist. The coordinator of the first group is Rothschild, and the second, of course, the IMF. Those whom we call “political eruptions” “family” or “liberals” are friends with the IMF. And those who are called “patriots” and “siloviki” are friends with the Rothschilds.

The Rothschilds began to radically change their policies. For example, they "threw" their former partners - Vekselberg, Friedman, and so on. And they sold the real asset of TNK-BP to Igor Sechin, who had previously been created in the Western press as a “bloody gebni”. What did Vekselberg say? "While I am the head of TNK-BP, I am a respected person in the world, and if I sell it, then I become just a rich Jew." From the point of view of the Rothschild, this deal was completely nonsense. What did they get for selling real assets? Papers that they almost themselves and print. But in reality it is a strategic alliance. They (the Rothschilds - ed.) Have shown who they will be friends with in Russia.

- That is, the Rothschilds are now behind the departure from the global dollar system and the creation of currency areas?

- They even moved their headquarters from London to Hong Kong.

- How did the conflict of the Russian groups develop?

- There is a split inside the elite. One of the groups that Voloshin oversees has begun the process of depriving Putin’s legitimacy of power, the so-called “Swamp Process”. His goal was not to allow Putin to come to the Kremlin with a mandate from the people and thus with the right to clean the elite. The first two terms he was with a mandate from the elite. But he could not clean anyone, as a hired general director cannot change the composition of the board of directors.

Further problems began to create the Customs Union. Initially, he was supervised by Sergei Glazyev, but he was expelled from the post of responsible secretary of the Commission of the Customs Union. And in fact, Viktor Khristenko is appointed in his place, together with Igor Shuvalov they begin to slow down the development of the Customs Union. And Glazyev is appointed to the post of presidential adviser and at the same time a member of the national banking council. This happens in August last year. After that, the “liberal” team decides that the post of chairman of the Central Bank is their private property. They want to promote Alexey Ulyukayev to this position. But they fail. The IMF begins to sound the alarm, declaring that Ulyukaev is the best candidate for this post. And at this moment is the name of Glazyev. And who called her, remember? The Guardian newspaper. This is the same newspaper that published Snowden and is closely friends with Assange. This is the Rothschild newspaper. The “liberals” get hysterical, they run to Putin and explain that Glazyev “breaks fire” in relations with the IMF and will be able to hinder the planned economic growth. What's next? After Putin declares Nabiullin the head of the Central Bank (and not Ulyukaev - ed.), A crisis occurs in Cyprus, and it becomes clear that an economic recession is starting in Russia.

- What will happen next?

- Two scenarios are possible. The first is to preserve the current monetary system and write off financial obligations through the war. It was the supporters of this scenario who wanted to strike at Syria in the hope that then Iran would strike at Israel, a new fight would begin, and while it was happening, it would be possible to write off a lot.

The other team, for which Obama plays, believes that in no case can you strike a blow, and you need to create new currency areas. But now Obama has a difficult situation. He would not want the US to lose the lead. But if you read Obama’s last speech at the UN, there he says bluntly: “Guys, we no longer have the strength to keep the situation under control. If you do not help us, then we will leave world positions and it will be worse for you. ”

- What happens to the economy in our country?

- In our country, the economic crisis is subjective. We are in a state of decline. Since the beginning of the year, GDP has fallen somewhere by 2-2,5%, by the end of the year this figure will be 3-3,5%. The government tried to find a way out of the ruble devaluation. By the way, did you notice how quickly gasoline prices rose? It would seem like so? We produce oil, process it into gasoline, and prices are rising. Because all our oil industry is credited there, in the West. And the balance sheets of our corporations are handed over there in dollars, so revenues in dollars should not fall. But the fact is that the ruble devaluation has grown. Their goal was to devalue the ruble enough to stop the recession. They devalued 15% - the recession did not stop. According to my calculations, to stop the decline, you need to devalue the ruble by 40%. It's impossible. Such a devaluation would mean a default of the banking system and the largest corporations, including the state. Therefore, they stopped the devaluation and began to sequester the budget, that is, to reduce its costs. The "liberals" have no choice. Both Medvedev and Ulyukaev have become, I apologize for the expression, to carry some kind of blizzard and scare everyone: guys, soon everyone will be very ill. At the same time they say that there is no economic downturn. But everyone will be bad ... Strange position.

- What would be your way out?

- We officially import 300-320 billion dollars a year, but in reality, somewhere more - 400. Imagine that we are beginning to engage in import substitution. Over 10 years we can replace by 200 billions. That is, we can easily ensure economic growth somewhere in 5-7%. And to do import substitution is not very difficult. Kazakhstan started a similar program four years ago. And she is quite successful. Although they have a problem with engineering staff, but the program is on. We have no problems with the engineers, but nothing happens.

There is one subtlety. The people who run the government and the Central Bank, the sun rises in Washington and they can not afford to take away these 200 billion from their best friends. Therefore, while they are in power, nothing will change.

- And then what will happen to the social sphere? What do Medvedev's statements mean? How far can the state go to get rid of social networks?

- It can not be sold to the public. As long as possible, Putin will keep the situation. At the same time, in the USA and the EU there are no chances to keep our social sphere, and we have in the form of an import substitution resource. Why did Putin criticize the government in April for not fulfilling his decrees? Putin says: why didn't you do it? And Surkov replies: “How is it not performed? There all the points are fulfilled. ” Putin says: “What about the content?” To which does Surkov respond: “What is the content? 15 hasn’t had any content. ” Everyone knows the fate of Surkov. But this process is not over.

Everyone knows that August is a tough month. What happened in August of this year? This August turned out to be much more difficult from the point of view of the Russian elite than August 1998 of the year. In August of that year, the elite did not suffer. This year, Putin made a decision that was taken before him in stories Russia twice. In the 37 year, it cost not only posts, but even the lives of more than half of the elite. In 1950-x it cost the post of Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee Georgy Malenkov. Putin made the decision that when opening criminal cases against officials, it is no longer necessary to coordinate with higher-level administrations. This is a declaration of war. Literally a week and a half, the head of the personnel department of the presidential administration, Lieutenant-General Vladimir Kikot died suddenly. More than this, I can not comment.

Further the story with "Uralkali". Voloshin’s support group - Shuvalov, Dvorkovich and other riffraff - aggressively attacks Belarus. They at some point say "shit!", And they fall silent. And then it turns out that not only Baumgertner, whom no one knows, but also Kerimov and Voloshin, was invited to Belarus. Does anyone have any doubts what would happen to them if they went to Belarus? So if someone has close ties with companies that are “covered” by Chubais or Voloshin, I strongly recommend you look for another “roof”.
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  1. Vadim-Skeptic
    Vadim-Skeptic 2 October 2013 07: 24
    11
    As he said, everything became clear. Now let’s heal ... The Rothschilds are for Putin. It remains to clean the horde of officials fed by the Rothschilds and the IMF. hi
    1. domokl
      domokl 2 October 2013 08: 03
      75
      You’re ironic in vain. The alignment in world politics is about the same as described. But we’ll live ... During the civil war (even if no one in the economy lives calmly and, first of all, ordinary people suffer.
      So we will like great-grandfathers think that grandchildren and great-grandchildren will heal.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 2 October 2013 09: 07
        +6
        Well, let's say that this is the situation.
        And what will give America, as I understand it, since Obama is a "galley slave" to the Rothschilds, the emergence of various currency centers? How will this get rid of the colossal national debt and how will it reduce costs?
        The only thing that can save America now is a new industrialization. But what does American industrialization and the creation of various currency centers have to do with it? I don’t see the connection, maybe someone will explain?
        1. from Kiev
          from Kiev 2 October 2013 11: 00
          20
          The entire gescheft of Rothschild's "money changers" is a gain from global exchange transactions between world currency centers ie maintenance and / or determination of courses. The more currency centers there are, the wider the possibilities of "krutezha" (divide and conquer). Something like this.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 2 October 2013 11: 16
            +9
            Quote: from Kiev
            The more currency centers there are, the wider the possibilities of "krutezha" (divide and conquer). Something like this.

            It’s easier to catch fish in troubled waters ... There will be a brother in one currency, a matchmaker in another, and a third will sit down. Nationalization of the Central Bank, and a return to the gold supply of national currency. Only so.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 2 October 2013 14: 09
              0
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Nationalization of the Central Bank, and a return to the gold supply of national currency. Only so.

              You cannot make the Bank of Russia the Bank of Russia - it is already the BANK of RUSSIA (federal government body).

              The pegging of the ruble to gold, in the absence of the same peg for other currencies, will only worsen the situation - countries that do not peg their currencies to gold will continue to manipulate them in their interests, and the Russian Federation will not be able to do this.
              1. Andrey57
                Andrey57 2 October 2013 16: 12
                32
                Why, dear, did you decide that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is a federal authority? The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is generally independent of both the government and the president. Nobody can even fire the head of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. In addition, according to the law on the Central Bank, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation does not even have the right to lend to the Russian economy. So you are greatly mistaken about the fact that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation works for the good of Russia. And if you are not too lazy to read the text of the law itself, then you will make for yourself a bunch of "pleasant discoveries" about the real essence of the activities of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. It is not for nothing that this law was written not under the control of the mattress "advisers" of the redhead, but by themselves.
                1. New Russia
                  New Russia 2 October 2013 16: 32
                  0
                  What will change the status of the Central Bank? How will this affect corruption, migration, the collapse of education?
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 2 October 2013 17: 43
                    12
                    Quote: New Russia
                    What will change the status of the Central Bank?

                    In order not to repeat other people's quotes, I will send you to the primary source - N. Starikov "Nationalization of the Ruble".
                    Quote: New Russia
                    How will this affect corruption, migration, the collapse of education?

                    Do you think that if your salary card is with me, will this affect the level and conditions of your life? If you think not, then send a card, I agree to control your expenses. laughing
                    1. New Russia
                      New Russia 2 October 2013 18: 01
                      -13 qualifying.
                      "N.Starikov" Nationalization of the Ruble. " Read the whole book? :)
                      "Do you think that if your salary card is with me, it will affect the level and conditions of your life?" And what is the significance of a salary card to corruption, migration and the quality of education?) In the 1990s, we had the 3rd largest education in the world in terms of quality, inherited from the USSR. Why did it drop to 56th place under Putin? :)
                      1. Arabist
                        Arabist 2 October 2013 18: 06
                        14
                        Have you tried to study on your own? You read the comments of some (and sometimes yours) and you see not people with Soviet education and even higher education, but a crowd of primitive obscurantists. The intellectual level generally leaves much to be desired.
                      2. alone
                        alone 2 October 2013 21: 49
                        +4
                        Quote: Arabist
                        and a crowd of primitive obscurantists. The intellectual level generally leaves much to be desired.


                        one in another topic wrote that, Russia has a lot of natural resources, and Russians have a high IQ, I wrote to him that not everyone has such a high IQ.)) now they are minus. Some comments I have to think about that, in general, these people went to school or not?
                      3. Arabist
                        Arabist 2 October 2013 21: 56
                        +2
                        Lonely, I do not know what to answer you. Sometimes I am speechless, laugh, shake my head in dismay, and I don’t even know what to think. I used to believe in education, I thought that everyone exaggerates. Now I'm starting to understand how stupid the average person is. But at least half of them are even dumber. Excuse me, did you read Sebastian Brant's Fools' Ship?
                      4. alone
                        alone 2 October 2013 22: 24
                        0
                        I didn’t have to, but I think I’ll have to read it. You intrigued me))
                      5. Setrac
                        Setrac 3 October 2013 03: 57
                        +6
                        Quote: Arabist
                        I used to believe in education, I thought that everyone exaggerates. Now I'm starting to understand how stupid the average person is. But at least half of them are even dumber. Excuse me, did you read Sebastian Brant's Fools' Ship?

                        This is an age, getting old. You used to be young and stupid and those around you seemed damn smart people, then with age you wiser and now youth seems stupid to you, but you forget how you were at their age.
                2. DJEIN8
                  DJEIN8 2 October 2013 20: 36
                  0
                  "New Russia" (You DO NOT take on a lot ") 18:01
                  Turn on your brains, if any ... Stop PR ... FIND A PLACE ...
                  Fed up already.......
                  Because before Putin "WORKED WELL" ......... still not
                  rake ......
                3. New Russia
                  New Russia 2 October 2013 20: 47
                  -9
                  :) You’ll talk to your wife like that :) I repeat for smart :)
                  "Because before Putin" WORKED WELL "......... they still won't rake ......"
                  "In the 1990s, we had the 3rd highest quality education in the world, inherited from the USSR. Why did it drop to 56th place under Putin? :)" It was Putin who did a good job with education :)
                  "Turn on your brains, if you have them ..." I have that, so after Putin forgot all his promises, I got tired of waiting for something, I also got sick with nonsense, Deputy PZHIV Fedorova, so it's just funny to me how you act out of yourself smart guy :)
                4. 31231
                  31231 2 October 2013 21: 32
                  +3
                  In the 1990s, we had the 3rd highest quality education in the world.


                  Yes, and the youth drank too much and addicted.

                  I agree that paid education is now useless. Plus, the value of technical education has fallen.
                5. New Russia
                  New Russia 2 October 2013 21: 38
                  0
                  "Yes, and young people were drunk and addicted." She is still in many places ... It's a matter of general hopelessness, plus slop and debauchery from the media. Plus criminal orders are ingrained in society and in schools
                6. 31231
                  31231 2 October 2013 22: 24
                  0
                  The only thing that I whipped up was serious about drug addiction.
                  http://ria.ru/beznarko_danger/20130814/837730129.html
              2. alone
                alone 2 October 2013 22: 26
                +6
                Quote: 31231
                I agree that paid education is now useless. Plus, the value of technical education has fallen.


                divorced all over the former union of lawyers and managers of different spills. Now it is more difficult to find a smart mechanic of the 6th category
            2. Setrac
              Setrac 3 October 2013 04: 02
              +1
              Quote: New Russia
              so it’s just funny to me how you make yourself a wise guy

              This is written by a person who has not yet learned how to use the "quote" button, are you blonde? Half of your cons for the mess in your posts. What kind of order in our country can those like you bring if you cannot put things in order in your head?
        2. pavlo
          pavlo 2 October 2013 23: 03
          0
          It did not fall under Putin !!! Much earlier !!!
        3. New Russia
          New Russia 2 October 2013 23: 07
          +1
          If you have other data, give the link, otherwise I thought that it fell under Fursenko and Livanov ...
        4. 31231
          31231 2 October 2013 23: 26
          +4
          Personally, my opinion is, it began to fall when education started money from private and legal entities. persons to take for training.
          I can give an example on myself. Occupational safety certification classes and industrial safety visited once. Since in the afternoon all in work.
          Nevertheless, a protocol was drawn up and a certificate was issued. For trained for a fee.
        5. New Russia
          New Russia 2 October 2013 23: 41
          0
          Hmm ... :)
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 3 October 2013 00: 25
        0
        Quote: New Russia
        that it fell under Fursenko and Livanov ...

        It only fell with them, they began to cut it earlier. Try to see the root cause, not the effect.
        Quote: New Russia
        And what does the salary card have to corruption, migration and the quality of education?)

        I do not make Putin an idol, but still when you are limited in means, it is much more difficult to deal with the flaws you have listed. But still read the book, there is a lot of cognitive.
  2. Setrac
    Setrac 3 October 2013 03: 52
    +1
    Quote: New Russia
    In the 1990s, we had the 3rd highest quality education in the world, inherited from the USSR. Why, then, under Putin did it fall to 56th place? :)

    Because in the 1990s, under the leadership of Yeltsin, we went in the "necessary" direction to the West and the West put us high in their ratings, Putin is leading our country in the "unnecessary" West direction, and therefore we "fell" in the Western ratings. Here the question is pertinent, what is the rating with the indicated places?
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 2 October 2013 18: 32
    +4
    Quote: New Russia
    What will change the status of the Central Bank? How will this affect corruption, migration, the collapse of education?

    They do not want to change the status, but they’ll take the money machine in their hands - they promised before the ass, and there is no money to fulfill the promise (not common fund print the stabilization fund laughing )
  • ioann1
    ioann1 3 October 2013 16: 17
    +2


    The Central Bank now does not obey the government, but it is in our power to make the country a sovereign state, and the Central Bank to help the country's economy, rather than suck all the juices out of it and send it to the United States.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 3 October 2013 20: 10
      +1
      Quote: ioann1
      Central Bank now does not obey the government
      Only in terms of functions and powers - this provision stems from the main function.

      but it is in our power to make the country a sovereign state
      The Russian Federation is a sovereign state, which is prescribed in the Constitution.
      Refusal of a part of sovereignty (accession to the WTO for example) is an unconstitutional act exclusively of the president.

      and the Central Bank will help the country's economy, and not suck out all the juices from it and send it to the United States.
      Before you drive the blizzard, read the legislation.
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 2 October 2013 18: 27
    +1
    Quote: Andrey57
    Why, dear, have you decided that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is a federal authority?
    Since it is spelled out in the Federal Law on the Central Bank and in the Constitution.

    "FUNCTIONS AND AUTHORITYprovided for by the Constitution of the Russian Federation and this Federal Law, the Bank of Russia shall independently FROM OTHER FEDERAL AUTHORITIES state power ... "

    To be independent FROM OTHERS Monkeys can only be a monkey.

    The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is generally independent of both the government and the president
    The court in the Russian Federation is also formally independent - will we also nationalize it? laughing

    The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is not independent "in general", but only in terms of exercising its functions and powers.

    Nobody can even fire the head of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation
    Maybe - Article 14 of the Federal Law on the Central Bank (at the same time, pay attention to who appoints it)

    In addition, according to the law on the Central Bank, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation does not even have the right to create the economy of the Russian Federation
    Not the economy, but the government (in order to finance the budget deficit) - Article 22.

    It is not for nothing that this law was written not under the control of the mattress "advisers" of the redhead, but by themselves.
    Evidence, please.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 2 October 2013 19: 08
      +1
      You know the constitution too well to decide to argue with you :)
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 2 October 2013 20: 05
        +3
        Quote: New Russia
        You know the constitution too well to decide to argue with you :)

        Access to the Constitution is free for all, but laziness does not allow mother to read winked
      2. bask
        bask 2 October 2013 23: 44
        +7

        Putin made a decision that was made twice before him in Russian history: in 37 and after Stalin’s death

        Different decisions are made, and the result is always the same.
      3. ioann1
        ioann1 3 October 2013 16: 57
        +1
        New Russia, he knows the Constitution well and very skillfully manipulates your consciousness. It is enough to pick up the Basic Law (Constitution of the Russian Federation) and read it. And the way the Constitution was written is enough to raise the archives. In those days (90s), Americans believed that victory was in their pocket and forever and were not very worried about the fact that the archives would be available in the future. And the more so that we will talk about it with you. And there are many interesting things. The Americans were wrong, in a fit of "dizziness with success", but so be it
    2. bif
      bif 2 October 2013 20: 33
      +8
      Evidence kindly
      "... The true architect of perestroika was Alexander Yakovlev, since 1985, the secretary of the CPSU Central Committee for ideology, who studied in the 50s in Washington and has since become a champion of neoliberalism, which he confessed to me at a symposium that took place in Vienna November 9, 2004. People like Yegor Gaidar, Grigory Yavlinsky, Boris Nemtsov, Viktor Chernomyrdin, German Gref and Anatoly Chubais belonged to the same group. With the help of these people, Yakovlev created a fifth column in the USSR, which to this day presses on secret Boris Yeltsin was also an American man, recruited directly in September 1989 by the American Congress when he visited the United States at the invitation of the Esalen Institute, which has been running the Soviet-American exchange program since 1979. With their help, he was able to come to power in 1991. . "http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/analysis/view/84000/
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 2 October 2013 21: 04
        +7
        Quote: bif

        1 This is not proof, but at best an opinion.

        2 The fact that the social system was thrown from the inside, and what this group of guys did that got to power, is obvious for everyone who is able to think logically and compare facts.

        3 People like you refuse to understand the obvious thing: in order for a thief to steal, it is completely unnecessary for this thief to bribe or force to commit theft.

        The collapse of the USSR - a consequence, brought down specifically the socialist system. An "orange revolution" took place (most were convinced of the need to change the social model to a capital model), but they did it not at the behest of the West or being bribed / recruited, but at their own request in order to usurp power and the national property.
        The West acted precisely as a consultant and no more, for which he received his percentage.

        Everything done was done in the interests of the group that carried out the dismantling of the Union, and this group has not gone anywhere - it is in power, it is the Power.

        Try to find conceptual differences in the actions of the current Government and organized crime groups of the 90s.
        1. bif
          bif 2 October 2013 23: 48
          +4
          Quote: Yarosvet
          This is not proof, but at best an opinion.
          Young man, your constant (not the first time) citing extracts from the constitution and financial illiteracy does not stand up to criticism at all. Just if you could think logically and compare facts, then you would not need proof. I don’t want to offend anyone, so I’ll explain that some time ago my relative, studying in the 3rd year of the Academy of Budget and Treasury under the Ministry of Finance (ABK), being a completely apolitical teenager, said: "Our Central Bank is generally the Fed's shop." The facts for "comparison" above the roof - from the production sharing agreement and "Vouchers" to the structure and functioning of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. As for the
          Quote: Yarosvet
          The West acted precisely as a consultant and no more
          on the ruins of the USSR under Yeltsin, a legislative and economic basis was laid for the creation of a state with external control, for "milking" and gradual ruin. To implement the plan and its implementation in the Kremlin, the main posts were exactly bribed / recruited, surrounded by Yeltsin there were more than 50 consultants (from the CIA) ...

          People like you refuse to understand the obvious thing: in order for a thief to steal, it is completely unnecessary to bribe this thief or make him commit a theft... on the contrary, it is you who refuse to understand the obvious that a thief, 1. this is a person who is looking for IMMEDIATE benefits, and does not pursue long-term global goals to ruin an entire country; 2. Even if we assume the negligible probability that only thieves have gathered in the Kremlin, then you, as a sane person, do not ask the question - Who has gathered all these "just thieves" in one place and cultivates?
          Lastly, one notable surname slipped through the article, the activities of this "gray cardinal" will explain everything.
          "In November 2006, Alexander Voloshin visited the United States. According to American experts, he met with high-ranking officials of the White House and the CIA to discuss with them the candidacy of a successor to the Russian president." http://to-name.ru/biography/aleksandr-voloshin.htm
        2. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 3 October 2013 14: 36
          0
          Quote: bif
          ... think logically and compare facts ...
          And this phrase is written by a person talking about my financial illiteracy ...

          Darling, in this context, the concept fact identical to the concept evidence.
          ... The Central Bank is generally the Fed's bench ...
          Yeah - outwardly, since the Central Bank tied to the dollar to fulfill its main function - this is convenient due to the fact that the dollar is RECOGNIZED equivalent to value and essentially performs the functions that gold previously performed.
          But tell me at least one piece of legislation that would OBLIGATED doing so.
          ... facts to compare above the roof ...
          Do you understand what PSA is? Read 225-FZ?
          Is voucherization a fact of what, the desire of the Amers to transfer Russian assets to a group of children affiliated with the Russian Authority, or the desire of the Authority to take personal good into personal possession ?.
          What confuses you in the functioning of the Central Bank?
          ... creating a state with external governance ...
          What is it expressed in?
          ... there were over 50 consultants ...
          Where is the evidence of the availability and number of consultants? Why exactly Were?
          ... does not pursue long-term global goals ...
          1 It is not necessary to translate the analogy into the category of identity and draw conclusions based on the resulting chimera.
          2 Do not confuse a thief with a popping purse with a pretzel of Madoff level or higher.

          Uncontrollability breeds violations: if you are the manager and you have a chance to become the owner of the managed, then in the absence of control you will try to realize this chance.
          They brought down the social system - the social system is a set of laws and rules, without changing which it is impossible to make the general private.
          To destroy the system, it is necessary first of all to discredit it - hence the artificial shortage, the advertisement of the Western way of life and the incitement of nationalism with separatism - the collapse of the Union resulted in the latter STATES.
          In the end ... the candidacy of a successor ...
          I don’t even doubt it, but it never says that the Americans are controlling someone: the guys are doing one thing acting in the same way as organized crime groups, who are doing the same thing, but they periodically bite, trying to bite each other and defend their territory - at the same time, the suckers living in the territory controlled by the organized crime group do not care until the suckers raise a buoy (hence the obvious successes in the foreign policy of the Russian Federation, and a complete failure in the domestic one).
  • ioann1
    ioann1 3 October 2013 16: 50
    0
    Yarosvet
    (It is not for nothing that this law was written not under the control of the mattress "advisers" of the redhead, but by themselves.) Proofs, please.
    Do not cast a shadow on the wattle fence ...
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 2 October 2013 17: 33
    +5
    Quote: Yarosvet
    You cannot make the Bank of Russia the Bank of Russia - it is already the BANK of RUSSIA (federal government body).

    Do you know that the Bank of Russia is the name of an organization which in fact does not belong to the state?
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 2 October 2013 18: 41
      +2
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Do you know that the Bank of Russia is the name of an organization which in fact does not belong to the state?
      No, not in the know, but I think that you will enlighten me on this subject laughing
      1. bif
        bif 3 October 2013 01: 23
        0
        Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation http://fct-altai.ru/?p=2059
        Enlighten, "ignorance is darkness .."
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 3 October 2013 14: 46
          0
          Quote: bif
          Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation http://fct-altai.ru/?p=2059
          Enlighten, "ignorance is darkness .."

          You yourself read, only carefully and completely hi
          1. bif
            bif 3 October 2013 21: 23
            +1
            As can be seen from the above analysis of the legislation on the Central Bank of Russia, the ratification of the Bialowieza Agreements changed the credit and financial system of Russia so that the country became a UK / US colony.

            And therefore, US President George W. Bush, evaluating the ratification of the Bialowieza Accords in his speech 25 December 1991, had every reason to say: "These events are clearly in our interests"


            Further discussion of this issue with you once again confirms the words of Mark Twain.
          2. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 4 October 2013 13: 01
            +1
            I agree with Clemens, but nevertheless I will make my last attempt to argue with you and explain what.

            Quote: bif
            [i] As can be seen from the above analysis
            This is not an analysis, but an agitation in which they modestly kept silent about the fact that the ruble of the USSR WERE NOT FREE CONVERT AND A CURRENCY FOR DOMESTIC USE, as a result of which no fluctuations in the global financial market could affect it - that is why the principles and bodies for calculating the adequacy of the money supply were different.

            If in modern conditions, when the ruble is freely convertible, and the Constitution does not contain an article on the maximum allowable budget deficit, the functions of the Central Bank and professional economists are transferred to professional liars, such as Fedorov, or to the government headed by an iPhone, you will get inflation as in Zimbabwe.


            And my advice to you is to consider at least a school course in economics before discussing such topics.
  • AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 6 October 2013 15: 35
    +1
    Quote: Yarosvet
    You cannot make the Bank of Russia the Bank of Russia - it is already the BANK of RUSSIA (federal government body).


    SOMETHING REQUIRES UPDATE:
    Who does the Central Bank obey or why does the ruble not belong to Russia?
    The Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia) is the main bank of the first level, on which the entire economy of the country depends. It is this bank that deals with the issue of the ruble, it is this bank that sets the lending rate and foreign exchange rates against the ruble, it is this bank that controls the activities of credit organizations, issues and withdraws licenses from them for banking operations, this bank holds the country's foreign exchange reserves and many other powers and functions are vested in the central bank of the Russian Federation.

    1. The Central Bank is a legal entity independent of the state;
    2. Only the Central Bank of the Russian Federation has the exclusive right to issue cash and organize cash circulation;
    3. Without the permission of the Bank of Russia, the state cannot dispose of the property, and even more so the country's foreign exchange reserves;
    4. The state is not liable for the obligations of the Bank of Russia, and the Bank of Russia - for the obligations of the state;

    5. The mutual relationship of currencies is regulated by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation regardless of the government of the Russian Federation;
    6. The Bank of Russia has the right to apply for the protection of its interests to international courts, courts of foreign states and arbitration courts;
    7. The Bank of Russia in the financial sector can give directions, regulations and instructions on what needs to be done, both for state governing bodies, and for legal entities and individuals, and everyone must comply with them implicitly;
    8. The Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to the Government of the Russian Federation, but it is allowed to lend to the economies of other countries;
    9. The Bank of Russia is absolutely not obliged to comply with the orders of the president, the State Duma, the Ministry of Finance and any other government bodies.
    10. The Chairman of the Bank of Russia is almost impossible to dismiss until his term of office has expired, even if he does poor work or simply refuses to comply with government orders.
    11.MVF (International Monetary Fund) - the only structure whose instructions must be followed by the Central Bank.

    OUTSIDE TIP: PLEASE READ CAREFULLY "Federal Law" On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia) "
    Much will become clearer What Yeltsin and his ilk did in their time
    And how is it for you: The public administration system of Russia does not obey Putin.
    The power system in the Russian Federation is built and controlled by the United States, so officials openly do not comply with Putin’s instructions. The Central Bank is one of the levers of governing Russia.
  • Nick
    Nick 2 October 2013 19: 20
    +1
    Quote: from Kiev
    The entire gescheft of Rothschild's "money changers" is a gain from global exchange transactions between world currency centers ie maintenance and / or determination of rates. The more currency centers there are, the wider the possibilities of "krutezha"

    It is possible that this too ...
  • Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 2 October 2013 21: 52
    0
    Quote: from Kiev
    The entire gesheft of Rothschild's "money changers" is a gain from global exchange


    People just sat down and considered how the "central bank of central banks" would end for them, the seams fell apart ... that's the whole deal.
  • Midshipman
    Midshipman 2 October 2013 11: 01
    13
    Duc writes the same Khazin, that markets do not grow, which will give industrialization in addition to the crisis of overproduction. Various currency centers will allow the Rothschilds to jump off the dollar and then the dollar public debt will become an exclusively headache for the American people. Those. The IMF wants to write off debts due to chaos all over the world, and Rothschild due to chaos only in America. Here is my IMHO
    1. Midshipman
      Midshipman 2 October 2013 11: 53
      +7
      It seems that the ruin of "the Babylonian harlot who sits on the waters of many"
  • tungus
    tungus 2 October 2013 12: 06
    25
    Industrialization cannot save America. The problem of the current crisis is not a lack of production capacity, but a drop in demand. Well, the Americans will transfer factories from China to themselves (although how can this really be done?), And so what? Who should sell products that will in any case be more expensive than Chinese? Expanding sales markets is simply impossible due to the fact that the whole world is already overstocked in full. This is the problem. And it is also not possible to stimulate demand in existing markets, because the population of developed rich countries is borrowed and works only to repay loans. Plus, huge debts of all developed countries, as a result of which there is a drop in the living standards of the population of these countries, and again a drop in demand.
    The emergence of various currency centers will be able to cancel the dollar dominance. Countries will leave the dollar, and the dollar will devalue. Debts will depreciate. And it will become possible to increase consumption again, but in other currencies. Indeed, if tomorrow your loan, for which you paid half the monthly salary, depreciates 10 times, and the salary remains the same, you will again start buying something and taking new loans. This is the meaning of abandoning the dollar as a global currency. But this automatically leads to the weakening of the United States and its reduction to the level of a regional power, because many people oppose this.
    But you need to understand that the transition from the dollar to other currencies is a temporary measure. In the end, everything will again come to the same crisis. With today's social model, it cannot be otherwise. And even a global war will not change anything. It will only relieve debt for a while, but then everything will return to square one.
    The way out is to change the system. An alternative to capitalism-socialism. There are no others.
    1. Denis_Rossiya
      Denis_Rossiya 2 October 2013 17: 17
      +5
      The fact of the matter is that too many rich moneybags do not want to change anything .... and war is only another way for them to earn extra money (although money is no longer important for them ..... let's say get additional influence) and there are much more supporters of change, opponents of war. It will not work in Syria .... so there are a bunch of other problematic regions in which they can kindle a local conflict first, throw it over to neighbors and further along the chain. And the result is known ..... the winners are not judged .... and do what you want.
    2. dzen123
      dzen123 2 October 2013 19: 27
      0
      Quote: tungus
      Exit-change system


      As long as the basis of the system is "percentage" - the system will lead to the same result. It does not matter whether capitalism or socialism - the use of "interest" after a certain time leads to a reboot of the system. The simplest and most accessible, to which humanity has "gotten" in the matter of rebooting the system, is the reduction in the number of consumers in the necessary sales markets with the accompanying breakdown of old economic relations and production systems. Those. WAR. Then the sales markets are freed from unnecessary "competitors", the number of consumers begins to grow, the "percentage" stimulates consumption, and ... behold, the system is rebooted.

      On the other hand, it is thanks to the introduction of "interest" into the economic system of the world that we have received today's technical development. Why do we need an LED light bulb if the torch also shines, right? wink
    3. varov14
      varov14 2 October 2013 19: 48
      +3
      "It is simply impossible to expand sales markets due to the fact that the whole world is already overstocked in full." --- The world is not overstocked, the world is essentially a beggar. Do we live like Americans, and the Chinese, India, I'm not talking about Africa. Sometimes people are shown on TV, it's scary to watch - skin and bones, there is nothing to eat and go about in rags. Until overstocked as before the moon. Yes, it is not possible due to limited resources. What is overstocked so it is not provided with anything green candy wrappers.
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 2 October 2013 15: 00
    +3
    It will give America a chance. Small ... but now she doesn't have that either. America's existence in general is now a matter of pure inertia. A gutter for the release of toxic waste streams from the financial world, an ocean of "bad debts" - that's what SGA is now.
    Financiers drew money and ... left it to themselves. They stole all the gold, the industry was taken out, and America will pay for all the questions! But she cannot pay. War sounds great, but not when it’s crystal clear to everyone what this war is for. It will not be possible to achieve debt relief simply. Only if you level the geopolitical enemy to a state of dust. But the geopolitical adversary .... we.
    And okay, we ... Imagine a war in which the Russian army is fighting, but provides us with weapons, equipment and everything else ... China. A Russian soldier, equipped with a gun to his ears ... I somehow don’t see any opponents at all, even the Hitlerites look ridiculous against that ... No, you can’t catch such an enemy, certainly not a fagot, there are some things there.
    So the only chance is to slide on the last brake pad. Create new currency zones, give new production to financial bandits ... slowly restructure debts without major shocks. Or...
  • 123dv
    123dv 2 October 2013 15: 44
    +1
    Quote: alicante11
    The only thing that can save America right now is
    .....
    This is a BIG war, where all creditors will be firmly cleared, debts written off, and everything can be started from scratch.
    The only disagreement is that hotheads demand the start of a massacre immediately, fearing a dynamic strengthening of the defense capabilities of Russia, China and India ...
    A moderate wing suggests waiting for the end of the Pentagon's rearmament programs and postpones the battle until the mid-twenties.
  • Igor39
    Igor39 2 October 2013 16: 18
    0
    Everyone understands what is sneaking up and guess what it will be and when approximately laughing
  • SAG
    SAG 2 October 2013 17: 04
    +1
    Yes, in America at the moment of choice, the cat was crying ... either abruptly into the abyss of chaos, or slowly sliding into the pit (which is almost the same thing). All that they have been doing for the past 15 years is to drag out time through numerous wars and endless emission!
    Therefore, the answer to your question is simple ... America will give it a slow slide into the pit. And you can get rid of debt (more than 50 trillion) only in conditions of global war, but lobbyists in the person of McCain are already doing this.
    Chess is called Zugzwang.
  • Nick
    Nick 2 October 2013 19: 18
    +3
    Quote: alicante11
    What does American industrialization and the creation of various currency centers have to do with it? I don’t see the connection, maybe someone will explain?

    In my opinion, the positive thing for the global economy is that if there are several world currencies, you can diversify the risks associated with the collapse of one of them. Remember how the dual-currency basket appeared with the advent of the euro ... With four, five strong currencies, the stability of the global financial system increases significantly and the financial risks of IMHO are reduced ...
  • vjhbc
    vjhbc 2 October 2013 19: 32
    +2
    the connection is simple in order to create several centers and to write off debt, a global war is needed, and a global war needs strong opponents of approximately equal strength, so they will now pull Russia and restrain China so that Russia will now have a period of best-favored development of the defense industry and as soon as Russia rearmament and this is where 30-40 years so immediately and the massacre will begin where all debts will be written off and several centers formed
    Quote: alicante11
    Well, let's say that this is the situation.
    And what will give America, as I understand it, since Obama is a "galley slave" to the Rothschilds, the emergence of various currency centers? How will this get rid of the colossal national debt and how will it reduce costs?
    The only thing that can save America now is a new industrialization. But what does American industrialization and the creation of various currency centers have to do with it? I don’t see the connection, maybe someone will explain?
  • a52333
    a52333 2 October 2013 19: 55
    +3
    One more thing is not clear to me: if in the opinion of Hazin Obama and VVP are Rothschild people, where do the contradictions come from. Would kiss Now "on the gums" on the ashes of Damascus! And if the LADY is a Rockefeller man, then how did the GDP allow the opponent to steer? Well, there's a caveat that the split happened after Strauss Kahn. Then why did the LADY give the post to VVP without a fight in half a year after the "split"? Unclear. request
    1. 31231
      31231 2 October 2013 20: 12
      +3
      It's just that Khazin simplifies everything. "You are from the Capulets and you are from Montequia."
      Cheap labels of secret conspiracies and alliances.
      1. a52333
        a52333 2 October 2013 20: 21
        +2
        Maybe there can be. But something, your will, but annoying: here is simplification, here is self-PR:
        My acquaintances working in the presidential administration once called me and asked: “What does the Stros-Kahn case mean?”
        laughing RZHUNIMAGU! He really believes readers for suckers? Do you believe in this nonsense?
        1. 31231
          31231 2 October 2013 21: 35
          +2
          Me not. For I value a person by deeds, and not by chatter.
  • timer
    timer 2 October 2013 23: 11
    +3
    Firstly, I was very hurt in the article that supposedly Russia is a herd of sheep, who definitely need a world shepherd in the form of, for example, the Rothschilds?! I think that we need to give a shit about these shepherds from a high bell tower! Stalin raised Russia without any world shepherds, relying on the support of only his people.
    As for the Rothschilds, these fucking speculators are counting on the differences in exchange rates between the currency centers. They will be chocolate-covered and have dollar billions, and have new currencies. That's the point.
    As a result, the world’s shepherds are unnecessary for the Russian people and Russia — let them go to hell. And you need to remove the liberal-shit-democratic reptile (fifth column) from the power in the country and start real projects to revive the nation and the state!
  • shinobi
    shinobi 8 October 2013 08: 04
    0
    But it won’t give anything. It’s not provided for in the plan. Even in the last century, someone smart predicted that America would be merged in this way. When a world center loses one system, this is death.
  • Botanologist
    Botanologist 2 October 2013 14: 09
    +4
    Article plus. Could - and put ten pluses. For the first time, such specifics rained down from an economist close to the Kremlin. Apparently, the situation actually escalated so much that the end of the dollar - IMF delirium is close.
    1. Andrey57
      Andrey57 2 October 2013 16: 19
      +3
      Mikhail Khazin is not at all an "economist close to the Kremlin," if he were, Ayfonchik's verbal diarrhea would not have poured from TV screens, and Glazyev would still have successfully steered the process of creating the Customs Union. The fact of the matter is that VVP does not "hear" it.
      1. New Russia
        New Russia 2 October 2013 16: 33
        -1
        Poor little silly GDP nominated the mentally retarded in the government, let's open his eyes :)
        1. ksan
          ksan 6 October 2013 15: 00
          +1
          New Russia RU October 2, 2013 16:33 ↑

          Poor little silly GDP nominated the mentally retarded in the government, let's open his eyes :)
          You have closed your eyes or look in the other direction. In my opinion, only a blind person does not see that in Russia there is a "struggle of clans", "statesmen" (conventionally) and "liberals" (also conventionally) and I deeply doubt that it is possible overnight, bloodlessly remove "liberals" from power. Too many THEM have crept into power in the 90s.
    2. ksan
      ksan 6 October 2013 14: 47
      0
      Botanologist (1) RU October 2, 2013 14:09 ↑

      Article plus. Could - and put ten pluses. For the first time, such specifics rained down from an economist close to the Kremlin
      Khazin is not "close to the Kremlin", this is his self-promotion and show-off. Although there is a grain of truth in his "conclusions", any truth can be turned out so that it turns out to be a lie
  • Sotnik77s
    Sotnik77s 2 October 2013 15: 15
    +4
    It’s a pity that it’s just wonderful at that time, I don’t have to live either for you .... when it will be as long as we live and dream, but I want it right now !!!!
  • Vittt
    Vittt 2 October 2013 20: 16
    +3
    It’s really funny to watch you - who is prettier than our Rothschilds or their Rockefellers? When you make friends with your conscience, common sense and wife, you’ll come up with something. But now it’s a very important point, from your allies (Belarusians) it’s clear that DAM and GDP will lead you somewhat to the haifa of Washington province. At the moment! how the weather vane of your wonderful politicians can turn ANYWHERE, I can only say with relief that it’s good that I’m not in Russia (viva Lukash!) When will you stop chewing snot, brothers?
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 3 October 2013 00: 07
      +1
      How about the "Chinese investors" who frequent Batka? Make sure the squint-eyed people don't buy you for the smell. They love it.
    2. ksan
      ksan 6 October 2013 15: 12
      0
      But now a very important point, from the side of your allies (Belarusians) it is clear that DAM and GDP will lead you somewhat to the haifa of Washington province
      And why is the "correct" Belarusian government cheerfully stomping with them in the same direction ??
      Since the weather vane of your wonderful politicians can turn ANYWHERE, I can only say with relief that it’s good that I’m not in Russia (viva Lukash!)
      You can't even imagine how "in Russia" and "viva Lukash!" just a slogan at a rally. Perhaps Belarus can go to the "other" side from Russia ?? The choice is not great either with Russia or Geyropa, there is no third choice.
      When do you stop chewing snot, brothers?
      And this is you "brother" what did you say ?? I want one more revolution ??
  • Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 2 October 2013 21: 50
    -1
    Quote: domokl
    You are ironic in vain. The alignment in world politics is approximately the same as described.


    On the contrary, everything does the right thing. The gloom of the spirit is worse than the civil war.

    Quote: domokl
    So we will like great-grandfathers think that grandchildren and great-grandchildren will heal.


    Your pissimism is incomprehensible. With this attitude, only the shroud is dressed and crawl in the cemetery.
  • michajlo
    michajlo 3 October 2013 21: 31
    0
    Good evening everyone!

    The author of the article is generally RIGHT, the details may be different and other ways of other groups, however, our WORLD (I mean the WHOLE planet Earth) after Stalin's death is led by "FINANCIAL PIGS" of a mostly Jewish family.

    Why does seditious thought visit me:
    - Or maybe instead of substitutions and "popular elections" of all kinds of "doll-presidents and doll-prime ministers"
    - Should we JUST help "finish the life path" of this whole world ROSTOVSHITSKAYA FALL OF Jewish origin?

    Let the fellow citizens of the USSR of Jewish nationality not be offended at me, this is alas a real fact, and I do not intend to dump all the Jews in one pile. Personally, I knew during the Soviet era among Jews and other nationalities a lot of decent and good people.
    After the collapse of the USSR, I mainly see only the Jewish bastard, but in the same way there were a lot of Ukrainian and Russian and other other bastards.
  • tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 2 October 2013 08: 10
    29
    This is a declaration of war. Literally a week and a half later, the head of the personnel department of the presidential administration, Lieutenant General of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Vladimir Kikot, suddenly died. I can’t comment on this anymore. Judging by the last line, Mikhail Khazin knows a lot, but they shut him up. Apparently we still don’t know much.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 2 October 2013 08: 30
      +6
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Apparently we still don’t know much.

      Gold words. smile
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 2 October 2013 09: 39
        13
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Gold words.

        Yuri Benediktovich! laughing
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 2 October 2013 09: 03
      +7
      Judging by the last line, Mikhail Khazin knows a lot, but they shut him up. Apparently we still don’t know much.


      In order to shut him up forever what he said is enough. So it was possible not to shut up thoughtfully. IMHO.
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 2 October 2013 14: 20
        0
        Quote: alicante11
        So it was possible not to shut up thoughtfully. IMHO.


        Long lives, used to already request
    3. varov14
      varov14 2 October 2013 20: 00
      +1
      The best war is a controlled "headquarters fire" - one of the elite parts can disappear within a few days. Plan and implement competently.
    4. ksan
      ksan 6 October 2013 15: 31
      +1
      I can’t comment on this anymore. Judging by the last line, Mikhail Khazin knows a lot, but they shut him up. Apparently we don’t know much yet.
      Or maybe it assumes "importance" fellow And what can he know as well as we, even if this death is not natural (from illness)
  • Very old
    Very old 2 October 2013 08: 41
    19
    Take your time, Vadim, remain a Skeptic. Ivan No. 4, Pyotr Alekseevich, Vl. Ilyich, and even Koba Vissarionovich broke their teeth about the "horde of officials". "The monster bastard, one hundred percent and LAYA" (I can not vouch for the accuracy of the quote) Add here the customs of our homespun capitalism, the general decline of faith in any government Do not throw your hats into the sky, it's too early
    1. Vadim-Skeptic
      Vadim-Skeptic 2 October 2013 08: 58
      23
      Not hats should be thrown, but "croutons" under the members - in 37, Comrade. Stalin began administrative reform, but did not complete it. As a result, Khrushchev debunked the personality cult. Brezhnev did not "tighten the screws" - the patrician officials relaxed ... Now we have what we have, that is, the people. smile
      1. Very old
        Very old 2 October 2013 11: 09
        +2
        Do you call the destruction of half of the command staff a reform? (Although I am more for Koba than against). Nikita was a clever fool, Lenya was limp, malleable and everyone (THEM) suited. But those with rich historical experience do not want to learn from past mistakes. All reforms are invented . Unnecessary, and often worthless
        1. Airman
          Airman 2 October 2013 11: 33
          +5
          Quote: Old very
          Do you call the destruction of half of the command staff a reform? (Although I am more for Koba than against). Nikita was a clever fool, Lenya was limp, malleable and everyone (THEM) suited. But those with rich historical experience do not want to learn from past mistakes. All reforms are invented . Unnecessary, and often worthless

          The reforms they need, and worthless to the people!
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          1. Very old
            Very old 2 October 2013 12: 00
            +7
            Vadim, well, please do not go too far. I mainly agree with you. 37th? Both Korolev and Ak. Likhachev were pressed. Why did you remember them? Yes, because THESE TWO did not become embittered, did not take offense at home - that’s important
        3. Vadim-Skeptic
          Vadim-Skeptic 2 October 2013 11: 58
          +3
          It is not clear why, as soon as it comes to the "repressions" of 37, only the command staff are remembered? There were no officials in other industries or were they not "pressed"?
          In 70 years, liberals will also talk about "bloody repression of the bloody executioner and tyrant" Putin. But in reality he cannot do anything or does not want to ...
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 2 October 2013 16: 54
            -1
            "In 70 years, liberals will also talk about" bloody repressions of the bloody executioner and tyrant "Putin. But in reality he cannot do anything or does not want to ..."
            They won’t, they will erect a monument to him, because everything is in his government and in the Duma.
        4. yastr
          yastr 2 October 2013 14: 15
          10
          This is not true. No half of the command staff was destroyed. And Nikita is a stupid destroyer of the USSR.
          1. Very old
            Very old 2 October 2013 17: 45
            +2
            At the forum, I gave my word not to put "-" on anyone. You too. But, Sergei, what about the DOCUMENTS? Did you personally communicate with the "stupid" one? Did you live at that time? Do you know a lot about Soso Dzhugashvili or Brovast?
      2. Dima67
        Dima67 2 October 2013 11: 41
        +3
        Or so. We have what they have us, that is, the people.
  • artemiy
    artemiy 2 October 2013 09: 09
    +5
    I did not expect from the Rothschilds! The right choice for Russia and China must be held on!
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 2 October 2013 10: 51
      +7
      Quote: artemiy
      was a Jew from the Rothschilds! The right choice for Russia and China must be held on!

      The Rothschilds always hold on only to their grandmothers and more, not at all for that. In this, the meaning of the life of their clan
      The Rothschilds felt that to the dolin Tryndets IHMO.
      Russia is a great camp, it’s enough to dance to other people's Jewish pipes. Only an independent foreign and domestic policy.
      Why dad Lukashenko is not who does not command?
    2. 31231
      31231 2 October 2013 10: 57
      +4
      The fact that the Rothschild family does not already put on America is understandable. But why do they think that China and Russia are under Rothschild influence ?! It seems to me that Khazin has wound too much. In business, everyone thinks of profit. So, Russia and China are only working with the Rothschilds, and are not trying to drive each other into dependence.
    3. atomic
      atomic 2 October 2013 12: 48
      +1
      The approximate fortune of the Rodschilds is three and a half trillion !!! Dollars. They do not hold on to Russia and China, they control them.
      1. 31231
        31231 2 October 2013 20: 40
        +2
        About RoDschilds from Forbes infa ?!
        Abramovich has 12,1 lard bucks and no one believes that he rules London.
      2. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 3 October 2013 16: 32
        0
        Quote: atomic
        The approximate fortune of the Rodschilds is three and a half trillion !!! Dollars. They do not hold on to Russia and China, they control them.


        yeah, if you add all the moneybags of America, it’s just going to turn out to be a US government debt (67 tril), well, it’s clear where all the printed papers go to the people of the United States, then to prevent this disgrace))
        (a joke, of course, it’s unlikely that in the open info they will be laid out counting their secret conceals and besides, they probably don’t have much cash (well, Kama need these unpaid green pieces of paper in such a quantity)) everything is in precious metals, stones and assets for managing the world capital)!
        I’ve always suspected that the US state machine specifically puts people on the debt needle and controls them, but the local Alegorhat managed to put the state itself on the same needle and turn it as a huge boss wants it to be a vivid example)) direct forward attacks are a kind of mutual responsibility in which the goss car was created specifically for the pocket of the alegarchy, but the state is to blame for everything before the people, because it is precisely it drives them into a debt hole and fat cats in this case innocently remain in the shadows reaping the loot! because the meaning of America’s life is precisely in this that the poem consists of not touching them, but the state can be done in principle !!
  • user
    user 2 October 2013 09: 25
    +2
    Again the war is running short. May God grant Russia to stay away or at least participate at the level of regional conflict
    1. Andrey57
      Andrey57 2 October 2013 16: 33
      +1
      This is unlikely to work, they will not give us such an opportunity - for more than a thousand years they have been hacked for the destruction of Russia, and then they suddenly step aside and offer us to catch our breath for now. All the mouse fuss is directed at the further troubles of Russia, either in the form of the 3rd World War, or in the form of hordes of jihadists and bandits of all stripes, or in the form of an internal "swamp" scum that will ruin the country into one more heap of debris And ideally, everything three options, with the indispensable participation of Russia in the leading role.
  • Toporkoff
    Toporkoff 2 October 2013 10: 02
    +2
    Now we’ll definitely heal! Smear with iodine and heal!
  • ShturmKGB
    ShturmKGB 2 October 2013 16: 29
    +2
    Gather all these liberals, tie them with a rope, and into the hole ... but do not need a heavy stone, let them swim in the hole, like r ... but ...
  • cdrt
    cdrt 2 October 2013 19: 02
    +5
    Lord ... conspiracy theory again.
    Here I read the article, read it. Everyone was looking for at least one FACT, confirming the speculations of the "analytega" (not the facts that he mentions - they do not prove the existence of a CONNECTION between themselves, but those that really prove this connectedness of events).
    I did not find a single one.

    I can offer an alternative theory laughing
    Aliens from the closest star system are behind Putin / Rothschilds, and aliens from the lost planet, located between Mars and Jupiter, are behind Medvedev / IMF.
    And further down the text. We can only add that it was these aliens who began to use psychological weapons and fast food during the struggle. laughingthat penetrates us through television: propaganda of homosexuality and consumer society laughing on TV

    By the degree of evidence - no worse than written. The same bullshit.

    Well ... by the ease of unconfirmed statements, there is a firm belief that the author is from St. Petersburg intellectuals (aka alcoholics) laughing
  • stroporez
    stroporez 2 October 2013 21: 02
    0
    Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
    It remains to clean the horde of officials fed by the Rothschilds and the IMF
    ---- alas, do not wash the black dog ......
  • Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 2 October 2013 21: 48
    0
    Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
    As he said, everything became clear. Now let’s heal ... The Rothschilds are for Putin. It remains to clean the horde of officials fed by the Rothschilds and the IMF. hi


    Ay handsome author. He gave such an interesting interpretation. There is something to think about.
  • pavlo
    pavlo 2 October 2013 22: 49
    +1
    But the Greenpeace workers again, at the direction of garbage, started to see something in Fukushima and the Gulf of Mexico;
    GOVERNING AMONG AUTHORITIES


    .... Today, few people remember how Gorbachev, having become Secretary General of the Central Committee of the CPSU in 1985, proposed to exclude from its Charter the provision on the dictatorship of the proletariat, since "at present the struggle for the environment seems more urgent to us." Following this, from the highest favor of Gorbachev, “green” cells began to appear in the USSR, like mushrooms after rain. Cells that were clones of the infamous Greenpeace society in the West. So what? According to academician Zhores Alferov and other Russian patriotic scientists, homegrown "greens" skillfully guided by the "Greenpeace", using "weapons of mass oppression of consciousness" - falsification and fraud, aroused fear among the population of the Soviet Union of massive salmonella infection. As a result, in 1987 Ptitseprom collapsed, and the country began to fill up with overseas Bush’s legs.


    ---------------------- ----------------------

    Immediately after the production of poultry meat was reduced to zero in the USSR, the "green" brought a nitrate horror story into orbit, due to which vegetables and fruits grown by collective farmers were taken to landfills, and the counters were filled with products from Holland, Belgium, France (where the volume of nitrates per unit area is 6 times the Soviet figure!). Even hay for cattle was delivered from ... Argentina!

    As a result, agriculture ordered to live long, and foreign farmers began to supply food in the USSR. And all the "green" immediately disappeared. It is understandable: the Moor did his job ...

    Meanwhile, the carnival of the absurd continued. In 1989, Bilderberg, for fun and fun, launched a hydrogen sulfide horror story especially for us.

    During the next visit of the Gorbachev spouses to the USA, Mr. Brzezinski, a sworn friend of the Soviet Union, whispered to Raisa Maximovna that, they say, the Black Sea could ... erupt at any time due to hydrogen sulfide fumes. And what do you think? Mikhalsergeich, speaking at the international forum of ecologists, began to frighten the world community with the Black Sea fire!

    However, when billions of dollars are at stake, the Anglo-Saxon instinct for blood is dulled by the permanent members of the Bilderberg. As soon as the “bilderbergs” -English tried to protect their beef producers by raising the issue of revising agricultural export taxes in their favor, immediately the “bilderbergs” -tellers released the genie from the bottle. Mad cow disease is called. They burned British cows, removed tax issues, and rabies ... And rabies eventually disappeared by itself, where did it go!
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 3 October 2013 15: 00
    +1
    Putin came to the Kremlin with a mandate from the people and thereby with the right to cleanse the elite. The first two terms he was with a mandate from the elite. But he could not clean anyone, as a hired general director cannot change the composition of the board of directors.
    - This is not news, it was clear for a long time, but still hoped that Putin would get rid of custody - if not.

    This year, Putin made a decision that had been made twice before in Russian history. In the 37th year, it was worth not only the posts, but even the lives of more than half of the elite. In the 1950s, it cost the post of Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee Georgy Malenkov. Putin made the decision that when opening criminal cases, officials no longer needed approval from higher administrations.
    - I hope that this is really his decision and he will not be blown away and will bring the matter to the end, Volodya will not have another chance, do not hope. Only it is necessary to clean up not only officials - the "elites" need to be changed. Designate values. Clearly identify the scoundrels and thieves, and of course, identify the real heroes of this country, so that there would be someone to look up to. Material values ​​need to be declared secondary, then people can justify their actions to "clean up the elites" and all sorts of scoundrels, relying on true, spiritual values.
    1. ksan
      ksan 6 October 2013 17: 13
      -1
      Ruslan_F38 (1) SU October 3, 2013 15:00 ↑ - I hope that this is really his decision and he will not be blown away and will bring the matter to the end, Volodya will not have another chance, do not hope. Only it is necessary to clean up not only officials - the "elites" need to be changed. Designate values. Clearly identify the scoundrels and thieves, and of course, identify the real heroes of this country, so that there would be someone to look up to.
      I think Ruslan that Putin "will not be blown away", but will he "bloodlessly" replace "liberals" with "nationally oriented elites" and achieve (with OUR help) a path for Russia in which only national interests and true spiritual values ​​are. I hope that it will work out, he is a strong-willed man, and the "Hunchback's laurels" do not appeal to him hi
  • Captain oh
    Captain oh 3 October 2013 18: 06
    0
    Well, who is he to scold our government? First, let him achieve something and then speak!
  • redwolf_13
    redwolf_13 2 October 2013 07: 27
    24
    The masks were dropped, the adherents of liberal values ​​showed their faces. Well, let's see the next scene: "The king saves the country from the boyars"
    1. Very old
      Very old 2 October 2013 08: 44
      +5
      Well, the oprichnina is already there. In the role of Kurbsky he is the best calico friend. And where is the chopping block?
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 2 October 2013 16: 32
      0
      so if you really need to save from the boyars, then you need to save, and chop heads ...
  • Valery Neonov
    2 October 2013 07: 29
    28
    hi So, after all, the war between clans will only affect ordinary people to the fullest ... So what is needed is quiet GDP to film the entire government under the wording of a serious illness ...well, etc. winked
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 2 October 2013 08: 01
      11
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      So after all, the war between clans only on the common people and will be reflected in full ...

      - The boyars are fighting - the forelocks are cracking at the lads. Boys, forelocks prepared? laughing
      1. ale-x
        ale-x 2 October 2013 08: 38
        +5
        Who is extreme to the hairdresser?
        1. kartalovkolya
          kartalovkolya 3 October 2013 09: 47
          0
          On this occasion, a bearded joke was recalled: a convict escaped (shaved baldly), followed by a pursuit to meet him bald gentleman - what happened from whom you run away? the answer is, they’ll catch bald, they will remove skins from bald heads to drums. The bald run, and after confusing the chase, they caught up with him at a dead end, to him, and he drew the knife and bald himself and sentence, fuck you, not the drum! Does this not remind you of the good gentlemen?
    2. domokl
      domokl 2 October 2013 08: 08
      +4
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      So we need to quietly remove the entire government GDP under the wording in connection with a serious illness ... well, etc.

      It’s interesting, what’s stopping Putin from getting sick in this case? You don’t understand the main thing, Putin is the same puppet as the others. Just as he once sang in a song, On a thread, on a thread ... I don’t want to go ... From now on I'm alive...
      1. Valery Neonov
        2 October 2013 08: 15
        +1
        How much in the world ..... what can not be assumed. hi
      2. varov14
        varov14 2 October 2013 20: 32
        0
        Sorry not for South America - a military coup is not in our tradition. Once, in 25, they tried - they hung up. And there are no young "lieutenants" and never were.
      3. ksan
        ksan 6 October 2013 17: 28
        0
        domokl RU 2 October 2013 08: 08 ↑

        Quote: Valery Neon
        So you need to quietly remove the entire government’s GDP under the wording in connection with a serious illness ... well, etc. I wonder what’s stopping Putin from getting sick in this case? You don’t understand the main thing, Putin is the same puppet
        Putin puppet ???? laughing You yourself thought what you said ?? But about "getting sick yourself" I think the option is not excluded, Nikita Sergeevich is an example of this.
    3. 31231
      31231 2 October 2013 11: 04
      +3
      Everyone is not needed right away. To put on one horse (Rothschilds) is stupid. We also need to work with the IMF. But instead of Medved, appointing Sechin would be beautiful. Wait and see.
      I have said here more than once or twice that all the talk about the crisis in the economy comes from the Medved-Dvorkovichs.
    4. matross
      matross 2 October 2013 11: 55
      +3
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      So we need to quietly remove the entire government GDP

      This is already being done. Through the State Duma. The Communist Party submits for consideration the issue of resignation on the 20 of October. Let's see how it goes ...
  • pinecone
    pinecone 2 October 2013 07: 33
    +7
    Economist Mikhail Khazin - on the struggle of the Rothschilds and the International Monetary Fund in Russian open spaces.

    Reminiscent of "Battle for Africa". It's sad.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 2 October 2013 08: 32
      +6
      Quote: pinecone
      Reminiscent of "Battle for Africa". It's sad.

      For supranational elites, the whole world is Africa, so there is nothing new here.
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 2 October 2013 07: 40
    10
    The cold war continues. Give GOD her not to go into the hot phase.
    VICTORIES OF RUSSIA!
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 2 October 2013 07: 40
    13
    Well, what is Khazin carrying? what recession? There are "cool" specialists here on the forum, they authoritatively declare to us that everything in the country is just fine, that all who are dissatisfied are provocateurs and American spies. Well, what Khazin can know, here they know everything about everyone, about the economy and about politics, and they will teach us unreasonable how to love the Motherland.
    1. nbw
      nbw 2 October 2013 09: 21
      +8
      Order of PetrosyanBravo, what a subtle and sparkling humor!
    2. klimpopov
      klimpopov 2 October 2013 10: 11
      +1
      Joked !!!
  • George
    George 2 October 2013 07: 41
    10
    Hello all.
    So if someone has close ties with companies that are “covered” by Chubais or Voloshin, I strongly recommend looking for another “roof” for yourself.

    Why look, how many "krytok" miss them. Straight exhausted all in anticipation.
    Especially for roofers.
    GDP has made a decision, the matter is small, its implementation.
  • Hleb
    Hleb 2 October 2013 07: 42
    +7
    I tried for a day to find at least some explanation for Medvedev’s words:The prime minister explained that citizens need to get used to changing not only work, but also their profession and place of residence - thus, in fact, turning into a “mobile workforce” but for my head this is too serious a topic ...)
    by the way, give a link to read about it-
    Putin made the decision that when opening criminal cases, officials no longer needed coordination with higher administrations
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 2 October 2013 12: 40
      +6
      Quote: Gleb
      by the way, give a link to read about it

      Gleb, good afternoon! The employees of the office could not collect dirt on a bureaucrat of the rank of the mountains of the head without good from above. This is an unwritten but strictly enforced rule. Now the owner gave the command "fas!" Only those who cross will be sifted through the sieve of the law, the rest will be scared (should! As planned) and become more modest in desires (like Yesenin's). This is a method of fighting the pro-Washington elite.
      DAMA finally discredits itself with such statements. It would be better to go to lectures to students on dead Roman law, there would be less harm.
    2. ksan
      ksan 6 October 2013 17: 38
      0
      Gleb (1) RU October 2, 2013 07:42

      I tried to find at least some explanation for Medvedev’s words for a day: the Prime Minister explained that citizens need to get used to changing not only work, but also their profession and place of residence - thus, in fact, turning into a “mobile workforce”, but for my head this is too serious a topic ...)
      Gleb don't even try to understand smile Dmitry Anatolyevich has already said so much that trying to comprehend it is useless fool Most likely this is an "innovative" "thinking" or another "startup" for the "residents" of Skolkovo. wassat
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 2 October 2013 07: 44
    23
    - Firstly, I do not read Medvedev's articles. No time to read meaningless texts.

    Quite right, his texts and speeches are not only meaningless, they often cause confusion, and even more often - irritation. He is only nasty to the people with his actions, while FIRM, like a capricious "boy", it is obvious to everyone that the results of his "creations" are harmful, but he will "stomp his foot" and insist on his own. Well, the fact that he awarded the humpbacked traitor to Russia, so he himself is the same traitor, and none of his "ideas" brought to life did not benefit Russia.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 2 October 2013 07: 50
      13
      I agree about Medvedev's speeches, only Khazin is disingenuous. so that the analyst, economist does not read the texts of the prime minister, former president, Putin's right hand ...? just decided to show my attitude towards him
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 2 October 2013 08: 04
        +7
        Quote: Gleb
        I agree about Medvedev's speeches, only Khazin is disingenuous. so that the analyst, economist does not read the texts of the prime minister, former president, Putin's right hand ...? just decided to show my attitude towards him

        ash stump, he really can not afford to particularly observe political correctness in making assessments, tea, just an economist-consultant, not the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
    2. servo777
      servo777 2 October 2013 13: 18
      +2
      But still I read and gave a detailed rebuke!
      http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_29377/
  • FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 2 October 2013 07: 44
    12
    Apparently, there is some invisible reason why YET Putin cannot expel and put Chubys and Co. liberals on the bunks.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 2 October 2013 08: 34
      +2
      Quote: FC Skif
      Apparently, there is some invisible reason why YET Putin cannot expel and put Chubys and Co. liberals on the bunks.

      They brought him to power and he, so far, does not have sufficient strength to turn his back on them.
      1. alebor
        alebor 2 October 2013 10: 29
        +6
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: FC Skif
        Apparently, there is some invisible reason why YET Putin cannot expel and put Chubys and Co. liberals on the bunks.

        They brought him to power and he, so far, does not have sufficient strength to turn his back on them.

        Or maybe there is no such desire? Our people love the old Russian folk tale about "The Good Tsar and the Evil Boyars".
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 2 October 2013 11: 32
          +4
          Quote: alebor
          Or maybe there is no such desire? Our people love the old Russian folk tale about "The Good Tsar and the Evil Boyars".

          Of us, no one knows the internal motive in the Kremlin and the government, so one can only guess.
        2. military
          military 2 October 2013 14: 31
          +3
          Quote: alebor
          Our people love the old Russian folk tale about "The Good Tsar and the Evil Boyars".

          who knows? ... maybe we just heard her next version performed by a famous political scientist?... what
          somehow too "in the vein" she fell ...
        3. plebs
          plebs 2 October 2013 14: 55
          +5
          Or maybe there is no such desire? Our people love the old Russian folk tale about "The Good Tsar and the Evil Boyars".
          Exactly. When the guarantor wanted to steer 6 years instead of 4 lackeys quickly made, then there are levers.
      2. stroporez
        stroporez 2 October 2013 21: 18
        0
        Quote: Vladimirets
        They brought him to power and he, so far, does not have sufficient strength to turn his back on them.
        --------- Or maybe he’s more than lacking strength, but desire ...
    2. Very old
      Very old 2 October 2013 08: 49
      +3
      The whole reason - he refused to play by the rules of the "family".
    3. olviko
      olviko 2 October 2013 09: 31
      +9
      In my opinion, the reason is very visible, whoever offends this very financial elite does not live long. An example is Gaddafi, who wanted to introduce a gold dinar instead of a dollar. Putin, of course, understands that this is a matter of life and death, one must slowly get rid of the environment in which he works, and they can get rid of him, here's how to get it.
    4. vkrav
      vkrav 2 October 2013 11: 43
      +4
      Specifically, about Chubais - no one even hides that he is the holder of the Jewish common fund ... everything else - and the rest - is the consequence ... So the reason is quite visible laughing
  • Bigriver
    Bigriver 2 October 2013 07: 49
    +5
    Close to the topic and contributes to the digestion of what Khazin saidsmile
    About the funeral of neoliberalism and the Rothschilds and Rockefellers.
    Interview with Andrei Fursov.
    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26085.5/2988035/
    Hazinu +!
  • Predator-74
    Predator-74 2 October 2013 07: 52
    15
    In this case, it is better to choose the lesser of two evils. Good luck to Vladimir Vladimirovich on this difficult path !!!
  • alexng
    alexng 2 October 2013 08: 02
    14
    It's just that the time has come and the strength has appeared to resist the mobs. As long as everything goes quiet. Let's see what will happen next. The process of "divide and rule" began, but against the liberal financial elite. So all sorts of contradictions in approaches come out. The main thing is that this process does not stop halfway. It seems that Chubais and Voloshin, as well as their associates, are waiting for a firebox or even something worse ... We are waiting for Medvedev to be sent to the landfill - everything has gone wrong. AI PADLA.
    1. Witch
      Witch 2 October 2013 10: 27
      +2
      Um, I’m not surprised that by the end of November Russia will have a new prime minister with a surname .... Shoigu ...
      1. virm
        virm 2 October 2013 11: 43
        +5
        Shoigu - direct participant assault Supreme Council in 1993. As the head of the Ministry of Emergencies, he gave out 1000 assault rifles.
        1. ia-ai00
          ia-ai00 2 October 2013 14: 35
          0
          Perhaps now he would send these STOLVES towards EBN.
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          2. New Russia
            New Russia 2 October 2013 14: 42
            +4
            Why? He received for this gesheft and ranks.
            1. ia-ai00
              ia-ai00 2 October 2013 19: 17
              +1
              Or maybe he realized that Boris was wrong ?!
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 2 October 2013 12: 56
        +3
        Quote: Witch
        I won’t be surprised that by the end of November Russia will have a new prime minister with a surname .... Shoigu ...

        Kozhugetovich was put on the breakthrough site. Will not cope with the rearmament of the Army - we are freaking out. This is firstly, and secondly, an economist is needed for the post of prime minister in order to understand the essence of what is happening, to understand and calculate moves 1 steps forward and for the future. There are many advisers, "defendants", touch what, you will not find a single one: everyone stood nearby, advised. There was one (Zubkov), but I don't know what the situation is now.
      3. Mairos
        Mairos 2 October 2013 13: 00
        +4
        Rather, Glazyev or Sechin or Ivanov
        1. Dimon-chik-79
          Dimon-chik-79 2 October 2013 14: 01
          +1
          Rather Ivanov
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 3 October 2013 00: 43
            0
            Only not Ivanov. I read yesterday’s interview with him in Gazeta.ru. It is not even a tree. A tree cannot be so offended.
            As for his answers about the theft during the creation of Glonass, I am simply silent.
    2. New Russia
      New Russia 2 October 2013 12: 20
      +7
      "It's just that the time has come and the strength has appeared to resist the rippers. For now everything is quiet. Let's see what happens next. The process of" divide and rule "has begun, but against the liberal financial elite. So all contradictions in approaches will emerge. It seems that Chubais and Voloshin, as well as their associates, are waiting for a firebox or even something worse ... We are waiting for Medvedev to be sent to the landfill - everything has gone to hell AY PADLA. "

      Nothing expects them, they will be transferred to other posts as much as possible. In general, you are not in the trend, MP Fedorov at the beginning of the year said that the liberation from occupation has already begun:) See the liberation from occupation through all zombie channels. He called the beginning of the liberation ... You will not believe the appointment of the liberal Nabiullioni to the Central Bank :) The appointment of Madame Arbidol, in his opinion, is also a step towards freeing up :) So we are already halfway to freedom! :)
  • Alex66
    Alex66 2 October 2013 08: 13
    -5
    It’s clear that the matter is dark, I don’t think that this article reveals a real alignment. It has long been clear that neither Putin nor the government defends the interests of Russia, its citizens.
    It can be seen that there are graters between Putin and the government, but they do not reflect the interests of Russian citizens. Russia has only two allies, the Army and Navy, but apparently they are also no longer Russian. Officers then you should have a conscience !!!
    1. nbw
      nbw 2 October 2013 09: 36
      -3
      In short, everything was gone. I advise you to wrap yourself in a sheet and crawl into the cemetery.
      1. Witch
        Witch 2 October 2013 10: 28
        10
        Quote: nbw
        In short, everything was gone. I advise you to wrap yourself in a sheet and crawl into the cemetery.

        You just have to crawl slowly so as not to cause a panic ...
        1. 31231
          31231 2 October 2013 11: 12
          -4
          Witch  Today, 10:28 ↑ New

          Quote: nbw
          In short, everything was gone. I advise you to wrap yourself in a sheet and crawl into the cemetery.

          Just crawl slowly, so as not to cause panic ..


          Better yet, hang your feet behind a tree and declare yourself a cocoon.
    2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 2 October 2013 09: 48
      +1
      Touch them all at once! Only now whom to put ... request
      1. 31231
        31231 2 October 2013 11: 14
        +4
        Well, all is not necessary. Shoigu and Lavrov will definitely come in handy.
        In general, this is of course a thought, if terrorists slam almost the entire government at once. And the customer will be Qatar or Saudi Arabia.
  • Kiliny
    Kiliny 2 October 2013 08: 16
    10
    The battle for Russia continues! Victory will be ours!!!
  • treskoed
    treskoed 2 October 2013 08: 20
    10
    What are the elites? Scorpions in the bank, guzzle each other for the loot!
  • major071
    major071 2 October 2013 08: 39
    24
    Very interesting article. It’s time for this little one to resign with a big head and cow eyes. During his premiership, I did not hear anything intelligible from him. He speaks in other people's phrases. Puppet - that’s it. I hope the thread will be cut soon.
  • Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 2 October 2013 08: 45
    +5
    Medvedev’s speech is just a pale manifestation of the war of Russian elite groups,

    It is strange that Medvedev found himself on the other side of the barricades, because it was Putin who "created" Medvedev and he owes EVERYTHING to Putin. I do not know if this is betrayal, greed or stupidity.
    1. Valery Neonov
      2 October 2013 09: 03
      +3
      So after all, like Gogol N.V. in "Taras Bulba": "I gave birth to you, I gave birth to you and ...", you know. repeat
    2. user
      user 2 October 2013 09: 32
      10
      Yes, no one created Putin, Medvedev is the result of behind-the-scenes negotiations and agreements that allowed him to come to the presidency for the second time and remain in power between this and the first term.
      It is clear that he did not agree on this with Medvedev.
      And Putin remembers how the neglect of the apparatus and the belief in his unsinkability of Joseph Vissarionovich ended
      1. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt 2 October 2013 10: 16
        14
        I think that Joseph Vissarionovich had no confidence in his unsinkability. He acted harshly, but he himself was ready to die at any moment. I am sure of that.
      2. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 2 October 2013 14: 32
        +1
        Quote: user
        Medvedev is the result of backstage negotiations and agreements that allowed him to come to the presidency for the second time and remain in power between this and the first term.

        Where are the facts confirming this?

        1. ksan
          ksan 6 October 2013 17: 45
          0
          Yarosvet (3) RU October 2, 2013 14:32 ↑

          Quote: user
          Medvedev is the result of backstage negotiations and agreements that allowed him to come to the presidency for the second time and remain in power between this and the first term.

          Where are the facts confirming this?
          What do you think Medvedev is an independent "figure" ?? And talking about "tandem" is at least ridiculous today.
    3. Airman
      Airman 2 October 2013 11: 45
      +3
      Quote: Anatole Klim

      It is strange that Medvedev found himself on the other side of the barricades, because it was Putin who "created" Medvedev and he owes EVERYTHING to Putin. I do not know if this is betrayal, greed or stupidity.

      This is stupidity. When a jester is ascended to the throne, he begins to consider himself a genius, and as he was a fool, he remained so.
    4. olviko
      olviko 2 October 2013 11: 53
      +7
      "after all, it was Putin" who created "Medvedev and he owes EVERYTHING to Putin."

      It may have created, or it may have been imposed, it only pretends to be one team. They will give a choice - either to work with Chubais or Medvedev, so choose from two evils ... In order to send these bandits, Rothschilds and Rockefellers, the corresponding force is needed in three letters and military and economic, and where is it in Russia! Only, only they started to get to their feet, Borka bruised such a mess, Russia will have to disentangle it for a long time.
      1. plebs
        plebs 2 October 2013 15: 02
        +1
        It may have created, or it may have been imposed, it only pretends that one team
        Blessed is he who believes.
    5. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 2 October 2013 14: 30
      +3
      Quote: Anatole Klim
      I do not know that this is betrayal, greed or stupidity.

      Театр
    6. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 4 October 2013 08: 23
      0
      It was created by dad and mom, but who appointed him is a big question!
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 2 October 2013 08: 58
    +9
    A fiction, however ...
    1. hommer
      hommer 2 October 2013 14: 03
      +1
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      A fiction, however ...


      Credit! laughing good
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 2 October 2013 08: 59
    +2
    Anatole Klim (1)
    It is strange that Medvedev found himself on the other side of the barricades, because it was Putin who "created" Medvedev and he owes EVERYTHING to Putin. I do not know if this is betrayal, greed or stupidity.

    And you know how it happens: - the student thinks that HE has surpassed the teacher, felt like a "king", and to accept that the "hat" is not for him, well, I just don't want to ... And if a person is not able to really "evaluate" himself - apparently the third, although if we analyze his "deeds", then neither the first, nor the second, nor the third is excluded.
  • kostik1301
    kostik1301 2 October 2013 09: 13
    +4
    JV Stalin I would decide this whole problem I think that within half a year .... and maybe less .......
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 2 October 2013 09: 33
      +6
      Stalin solved this problem from the middle of the 20's to the end of the 30's, so it's not so simple and fast
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      2. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt 2 October 2013 10: 21
        +5
        Here, who are interested, recommend:
        1. Grishka100watt
          Grishka100watt 2 October 2013 10: 22
          +3
          The second part:
          1. Grishka100watt
            Grishka100watt 2 October 2013 10: 23
            +6
            The third part:
            1. Grishka100watt
              Grishka100watt 2 October 2013 16: 38
              +1
              With those who know the story or have watched the above film, I would like to share an interesting observation.

              Remember how the Trotskyists, using their administrative resources, were able to prohibit the discussion in the party organizations of the materials of the 14th party conference of 1925, obstructed the distribution of the newspaper Pravda and called through propaganda to disobey the decision of the congress? At the congress, let me remind you, theses about the unity of the nation and the construction of an independent industrial state were voiced.

              So, I recently watched a video and caught some historical parallels:
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 2 October 2013 19: 12
                0
                Quote: Grishka100watt
                With those who know the story

                Grisha, are you tired of referring to this starball?

                Here is a film by a prostitute journalist in which Fedorov, at the 40th second, claims that in 2004 he was CANCELED the law "on production sharing agreements":

                But this "canceled", but nevertheless for some reason ACTIVE law:
                1. Grishka100watt
                  Grishka100watt 2 October 2013 19: 33
                  +1
                  Hello.

                  Colleagues, with this character we had a dispute in which he rejected my thesis about economic growth since 1999.
                  That is, I put forward a thesis in which I argued that since 1999 Russia has been experiencing stable economic growth and cited facts from the ROSSTAT website (this site was proposed to me by the character Yaroslav as an authoritative source). I made an excerpt from the statistical materials of the site:


                  The population with cash incomes is below the subsistence level: in 1999 41,6 million people, in 2012 15,6 million people (http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/new_site/population/urov/urov_51g.htm)
                  .

                  The cost of living: in 2000 1210 rubles, in 2013 7095 rubles (http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/new_site/population/urov/urov_41kv.htm).


                  Arrears
                  organizations of employee wages: in 2004 14315 million rubles, in 2012 1560 million rubles (http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/new_site/population/trud/zadol-kg.htm).

                  The average monthly nominal accrued wages of employees of organizations: in 2000 2223,4 rubles, in 2011 23369,2 rubles (http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/new_site/population/trud/zrpl-v.doc).

                  Money supply: in 2005 4353,9 billion
                  rubles, in 2013 27405,4 billion rubles (http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/new_site/finans/fin31.htm).

                  Foreign trade turnover: in 1999, 115,1 billion US dollars, in 2011 845,8 billion US dollars (http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/new_site/vnesh-t/vnt-bl.xls).

                  GDP at constant prices 2003: 1999 10193,4 billion rubles, in 2008 18604,2 billion rubles (http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/new_site/vvp/tab2.xls).

                  The number of unemployed: in 2000 7699,5 thousand people, in 2012 4130,7 thousand people (http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/new_site/population/trud/trud3.xls).


                  To which this character expressed to me that this information is not proof of economic growth.

                  I suggest that witnesses decide whether I should start a dispute with a person who asks questions but does not recognize objective answers?
                  And to warn other visitors to refrain from disputes with this character.
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 2 October 2013 20: 01
                    0
                    Quote: Grishka100watt
                    I put forward a thesis in which I argued that since 1999 Russia has been experiencing stable economic growth and cited facts from the ROSSTAT website (this site was offered to me by the character Yaroslav as an authoritative source)

                    Quote: Grishka100watt
                    [i] Population with cash income below subsistence level
                    The minimum subsistence level
                    Arrears
                    employee wage organizations
                    The average monthly nominal accrued wages of employees of organizations
                    Money supply
                    Foreign trade turnover
                    GDP at constant prices
                    Number of unemployed
                  2. chehywed
                    chehywed 2 October 2013 20: 12
                    +3
                    Quote: Grishka100watt
                    I suggest that witnesses decide whether I should start a dispute with a person who asks questions but does not recognize objective answers?

                    No.
                2. ioann1
                  ioann1 3 October 2013 17: 23
                  +1
                  So, always with the liberals, if something is not for them, then abuse begins. Especially with rubbing all abomination. After such arrivals, the topic is closed!
                3. ksan
                  ksan 6 October 2013 18: 02
                  0
                  Yarosvet (3) RU October 2, 2013 19:12 ↑ And this "canceled", but nevertheless for some reason, the ACTIVE law:
                  This is "international jurisdiction" and Russia cannot accept this law or not. And the fact that you are referring here is an agreement on this treaty (i.e. conditions), which were revised under Putin radically in favor of Russia.
      3. 31231
        31231 2 October 2013 11: 17
        +8
        Absolutely agree. Stalin only before the war became omnipotent. Only some people forget his previous life with the Kamenev, Zinoviev, Trotsky.
        1. Grishka100watt
          Grishka100watt 2 October 2013 11: 36
          +6
          Do not forget. They just don’t know. Unfortunately, for some, the desire to write a daring post is stronger than the desire to study any materials.
        2. ia-ai00
          ia-ai00 2 October 2013 12: 29
          +8
          That's right! My parents lived during Stalin's time, and they never said anything bad about him. But the fact that the KUKU-ruznik mixed him with mud, blamed all the sins of those times on Stalin, although his hands were covered in blood, the indignation of my parents knew no bounds. And the fact that the Crimea Nikitka "gave" to Ukraine was also outraged, even in Soviet times, despite the fact that my father was a Ukrainian. They said: - "How is this, - Gave it? This Land is his property, or what? And the consent of the people who live there he received? So his" generosity "at someone else's expense is still haunted by Russia.
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 2 October 2013 17: 01
            -6
            "That's right! My parents lived during Stalin's time, and they never said anything bad about him."
            Do you compare Putin and Stalin? Stalin was the leader by law, and Putin, according to the law, was a servant of the people who usurped power. Here in the next thread there is news about the revival of Buran, another nonsense of the type of a new aircraft carrier and new ekranoplanes, but the people are being led and ready to wait until the age of 18, and then until 2024, and then it will not be necessary to wait when the migrants become the majority of the population, they have everything according to plan :) Although I am sure that young people are not being fooled by this from TV and from propagandists, so everything will be fine
            1. Arabist
              Arabist 2 October 2013 17: 08
              +4
              You know, Russia, and about Buran you are right in something. That migrants (external) will become the majority of the nonsense population. And young people are all different and think differently. Do not speak for everyone at once.
              1. New Russia
                New Russia 2 October 2013 17: 48
                +1
                "That migrants (external) will become the majority of the population is nonsense" In some cities, they are already at least a third of the population.
                "And young people are all different and think differently. You shouldn't speak for everyone at once." Yes. But of those with whom I studied at the pedagogical college of my like-minded people, 90%. I went to see my teachers, in the corridor I heard conversations of 16 17 year old girls that Putin should be hanged only for what is happening in the Stavropol region ...
                1. Arabist
                  Arabist 2 October 2013 17: 52
                  0
                  What cities are these? Did you try to change your circle of friends? My students do not suffer from this.
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                  2. New Russia
                    New Russia 2 October 2013 18: 04
                    -5
                    Moscow, Petersburg, small cities in the Urals, and in large ones.
                    "Have you tried to change your social circle?" Why? :) My friends are fine with me.
                    "My students don't suffer from this." How do you know? :) Of course no one will shout putler kaput, but that doesn't mean anything :)
                    1. Arabist
                      Arabist 2 October 2013 18: 08
                      +1
                      I would not know would not write. Moscow and St. Petersburg facts? I have been to these cities more than once and believe there is far from 30%.
                      1. New Russia
                        New Russia 2 October 2013 18: 16
                        +1
                        http://vchera.com/news/23586/
                        http://www.dp.ru/a/2011/06/27/K_2050_godu_tret_zhitelej/
                      2. Arabist
                        Arabist 2 October 2013 18: 19
                        +4
                        And is that evidence? You do not throw me newspapers, but the data of the FMS, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the registry office. I didn’t read it in the newspapers, but there’s nothing to talk about the Internet.
                      3. New Russia
                        New Russia 2 October 2013 18: 30
                        -2
                        These are not just newspapers, but reputable newspapers that cite official statistics :)
                      4. Arabist
                        Arabist 2 October 2013 18: 33
                        +4
                        Any newspaper can refer to official statistics without even citing them. And what are they dear? As for statistics, I already wrote that according to official statistics the number of crimes committed in Germany is yours than in Russia.
                      5. Botanologist
                        Botanologist 2 October 2013 22: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: New Russia
                        These are not just newspapers, but reputable newspapers,


                        Who are the respected?
                    2. Botanologist
                      Botanologist 2 October 2013 22: 15
                      +2
                      Quote: Arabist
                      You do not throw me newspapers, but data

                      She doesn’t need to. She is from the Movement Against Illegal Immigration, and reads only what the foreman gives.
                    3. New Russia
                      New Russia 2 October 2013 22: 26
                      0
                      I don’t come from anywhere, and I don’t even know who the ten's manager is
                    4. Botanologist
                      Botanologist 2 October 2013 22: 41
                      +2
                      Quote: New Russia
                      I don’t come from anywhere, and I don’t even know who the ten's manager is


                      This is the oddball who waves his beloved white-black-yellow flag in front of 10 privates. Over the ten's manager there is a centurion. You should at least learn the hierarchy of the organization that forms your worldview.
                    5. New Russia
                      New Russia 2 October 2013 22: 45
                      -1
                      You probably won’t believe it, but my worldview has formed itself :) From nationalists I read only Yekishev’s blog and Kvachkov’s letters
                    6. Botanologist
                      Botanologist 2 October 2013 22: 56
                      +2
                      Quote: New Russia
                      my worldview has formed itself :)


                      You are unique. Typically, a worldview is shaped by tradition, environment and culture. And it is usually written with two "z".
                    7. New Russia
                      New Russia 2 October 2013 23: 01
                      0
                      "You are unique. Usually your worldview is formed by traditions, environment and culture" Well, why is unique :) If you decide to cling to words, my worldview is formed by the traditions of the great power, my disgusting environment and of course Russian culture :)
                    8. Botanologist
                      Botanologist 2 October 2013 23: 27
                      +2
                      Quote: New Russia
                      and of course Russian culture :)


                      So Russian culture is a multiculturalism. And Jews, and Ukrainians, and Azerbaijani Okudzhava, and even Korean Viktor Tsoi. It's even inconvenient to remember Pushkin the arap ... And here you are "a world without blacks and people of color." This is a bit of a non-Russian culture. A little and not even culture, but one of the aspects of the worldview.
                    9. chehywed
                      chehywed 2 October 2013 23: 44
                      +2
                      Quote: New Russia
                      disgusting environment and of course Russian culture :)

                      Botanologist Well, why argue. Kenneth is a man’s name. And Kenneth disgusted Russian culture.
                    10. New Russia
                      New Russia 2 October 2013 23: 53
                      0
                      Cop :) Thank you for enlightening the name, but I still like it :)
                    11. chehywed
                      chehywed 3 October 2013 00: 12
                      +1
                      Quote: New Russia
                      Ment :) Thank you for enlightening

                      Past .. And what do you have in the states called the CIA? Here I am, only in Russia. laughing
                      Yes, I almost forgot. You can buy handcuffs in a sex shop, fur. And then in our strict, it will not be comfortable. wink
                    12. New Russia
                      New Russia 3 October 2013 00: 18
                      0
                      "What do you call CIA officers in your states?" In the states? :) Hmm ...
                    13. chehywed
                      chehywed 3 October 2013 00: 31
                      0
                      Quote: New Russia
                      In the states? :) Hmm ...

                      I had a friend. From Tula. Name was Igor. About the fact that in Tula Kenneth I did not hear much from him. laughing
            2. New Russia
              New Russia 2 October 2013 23: 45
              +2
              "Jews, Ukrainians, Azeri Okudzhava, and even Korean Viktor Tsoi" This is Soviet culture.
              "It's even inconvenient to remember Pushkin the arap ... And here you are," a world without blacks and people of color. "This is a bit of a non-Russian culture." Anyone can be Russian at heart, I myself am not of Aryan appearance, if that. There are peoples who live with us in our country as equals to us, there are those who hate us, like Chechens and Dagestanis. Those who hate us should be treated as they deserve and not make concessions, it's a shame. For some reason, there are no problems with the Tatars. By Russian culture, I meant pre-Christian culture :)
            3. Botanologist
              Botanologist 2 October 2013 23: 53
              +2
              Quote: New Russia
              For some reason, there are no problems with the Tatars.


              You are not very well informed. It has its own jamaat, just in standby mode. Well, of course, they catch him quietly.

              Quote: New Russia
              rather than make concessions, it's a shame


              Do you want to fight? So send your husband to Dagestan. So as not to disgrace.

              Quote: New Russia
              By Russian culture, I meant pre-Christian culture :)


              Well, mother, you are bent. Then what does the dislike for different races? Pre-Christian (pagan) culture was very tolerant of religions and peoples.
            4. New Russia
              New Russia 3 October 2013 00: 06
              -1
              "You are not well informed" There is no escape of Russians from there, there are 30-50 thousand nationalists, but there are no Islamists among them :)
              "I wanted to fight? Well, send your husband to Dagestan. So as not to embarrass yourself." Why go to Dagestan, my husband is "at war" with them here :) Although they were the first to drive. In general, Dagestan should be cut off from Russia, warning that you will say that then the country will disintegrate, I will say, it will not disintegrate if held together by ideology, and the Russian Federation in its current form will disintegrate in any case.
              "The pre-Christian (pagan) culture was very tolerant of religions and peoples."
              Since I live in Adygea, since childhood I respected all nations, until I met with representatives of some of them and began to hear in the news about skirmishes all over Russia, in my childhood there wasn’t
            5. bask
              bask 3 October 2013 00: 13
              +3
              Quote: New Russia
              Dagestan, my husband is "at war" with them here :) Although they were the first to drive. In general, Dagestan

              Well, you are New Russia and light. So keep good
              If in Russia, there is such a young generation.
              So not everything is lost-erupt !!!!
              Madam, I kneel before you !!!! love
            6. New Russia
              New Russia 3 October 2013 00: 20
              +2
              soldier Hah :) Thanks
            7. Botanologist
              Botanologist 3 October 2013 00: 25
              -1
              Quote: bask
              If in Russia, there is such a young generation.
              So not everything is lost-erupt !!!!


              Hope not all. And then we’ll break through for sure, but it’s not clear where. The girl has a clear bias on national soil.
            8. Alex 241
              Alex 241 3 October 2013 00: 25
              +1
              I recognize the hussar laughing good
            9. bask
              bask 3 October 2013 00: 42
              +2
              Quote: Botanologist
              national bias

              Quote: Alex 241
              I recognize the hussar

              A young woman has an analytical male mind. A dispute with men, with life span, is on equal footing.
              And each of us has his own political views.
              If I told my wife to sit on the Internet and pee about politics.
              But I would surely have been on my neck, instead of the Spanish collar. laughing
            10. Alex 241
              Alex 241 3 October 2013 00: 49
              +1
              Quote: bask
              spanish collar
              Cool in your department laughing
            11. bask
              bask 3 October 2013 00: 57
              +2
              Quote: Alex 241
              Cool in your department

              And as you want. The wife of the Terek Cossack, with Chechen roots. Imagine what an explosive mixture.
              I had to invent a cowboy.
              Now, the human soul is calm as a tank. good
            12. studentmati
              studentmati 3 October 2013 00: 59
              +2
              Quote: bask
              I had to invent a cowboy.
              Now, the human soul is calm as a tank.


              Love is a powerful weapon! Double-edged weapons!
            13. Alex 241
              Alex 241 3 October 2013 01: 04
              +1
              Sanya just chose their wives on their own, mine once said: If anything, I will bring cartridges to you.
            14. studentmati
              studentmati 3 October 2013 01: 15
              +1
              Quote: Alex 241
              Sanya just chose their wives on their own, mine once said: If anything, I will bring cartridges to you.


              I remember Sasha was telling.
              And mine, according to the first senser, first gnaws his throat, and only then will he find out who is right, who is wrong, if he wants to. So you have to observe iron calm always and everywhere.
  • Botanologist
    Botanologist 3 October 2013 00: 27
    0
    Quote: New Russia
    and didn’t start to hear in the news about skirmishes all over Russia, in my childhood there wasn’t


    In my ... childhood in Karachay-Cherkessia with ice axes stood against the village. A year like that in 1983. 50 person on each side. But the newspapers, damn it, and did not write!
  • Apollo
    Apollo 2 October 2013 23: 53
    +4
    Quote: New Russia
    and Azerbaijani Okudzhava
    ?! winked

    Bulat Shalvovich was born in Moscow on May 9 1924 in a family of party workers. Father by nationality was Georgian, mother was Armenian.
    http://45parallel.net/bulat_okudzhava/
  • Botanologist
    Botanologist 3 October 2013 00: 23
    0
    Quote: Apollon
    Father by nationality was Georgian, mother was Armenian.


    Well, to blame, for some reason it seemed that he was Azerbaijani.
    So, we are writing - Russian wink
  • 31231
    31231 2 October 2013 21: 12
    +3
    I will give you the same link too. Even Lurka mocks at Delyagin.

    http://lurkmore.to/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BC_%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0
    %D1%88%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2
  • New Russia
    New Russia 2 October 2013 21: 47
    -1
    The link is broken and there about Maxim Kalashnikov, about Delyagin, I myself searched, no
  • 31231
    31231 2 October 2013 22: 27
    0
    Read the article below.
  • New Russia
    New Russia 2 October 2013 22: 35
    0
    "Mikhail Delyagin is a well-known economist and analyst, a former RODINOVET. Academician of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences. Nickname Pupsik (Pupseg). Lukasek, respectively, a quasi-socialist and the founder of the new party" Homeland: Common Sense ", which is actively fooled by people of different stripes." Apparently this is enough for you to understand the whole anti-national essence of Delyagin :)
  • 31231
    31231 2 October 2013 23: 14
    +1
    Suns, and you, I do not lag behind their idols. In the commentary you insert not everything that is written about Delyagin. The most piquant part was removed from the paragraph in a "strange" way. But I will still write the full info from there
    Mikhail Delyagin is a well-known economist and analyst, former Rodinovets. Academician of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences. Nickname Pupsik (Pupseg). Lukasek, respectively, is a quasi-socialist and the founder of the new party, “Motherland: Common Sense,” which is actively digested by different stripes. By the way, Delyagin took the money for the “founding congress” of the “amusing party of nano-techno-pederastists” from Khodorkovsky [pruflink?], And the RZU itself was solemnly unregistered in the Ministry of Justice in March 2011.
  • New Russia
    New Russia 2 October 2013 23: 22
    +1
    "By the way, Delyagin took the money for the" founding congress "of the" amusing party of nano-techno-ferasts "from Khodorkovsky [proof link?]" I did not notice that, congratulations, you spiked me. And yet :) Delyagin took from Khodorkovsky [PRUFLINK?]
  • 31231
    31231 2 October 2013 23: 30
    0
    Read my very first comment
    I will give you the same link too.

    That is, I'm telling you about the yellowing of links. And you eat everything, without even thinking about what is written and by whom.
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 3 October 2013 01: 01
    0
    Quote: New Russia
    The link is broken and there about Maxim Kalashnikov, about Delyagin, I myself searched, no

    I apologize for intervening in a conversation that doesn’t affect me at all, the question just arose, and Maxim Kalashnikov is not the storyteller who wrote, among other things, the beleberd about military operations in the warheads? About 15 years ago, a guy brought one of his books to the camp, so no jokes were needed.
  • Arabist
    Arabist 2 October 2013 17: 59
    +4
    Well, Saddam Hussein was hanged, and Iraq has healed. All envy. Shine Baghdad is the pearl of the East.
    1. 31231
      31231 2 October 2013 20: 55
      +2
      And Libya is panicking. And then, after 91 years, we were panicking, while everything Soviet was not panicking. wink
  • 31231
    31231 2 October 2013 20: 50
    +2
    Yes. But of those with whom I studied in the pedagogical college of my like-minded people, 90%.

    Together, ballots were thrown into the ballot box in the elections ?!
    Why are you young and hot like to yak and take on yourself the laurels of those who express the opinions of someone. They didn’t try to grow up and speak only for themselves ?!
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    2. New Russia
      New Russia 2 October 2013 21: 12
      -1
      Once again :) I talk with everyone with whom I studied, and we talk about politics, among others :) I don’t speak for ALL, I’m talking about what I personally see
  • Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 2 October 2013 13: 15
    +4
    Quote: Poppy
    Stalin solved this problem from the middle of the 20's to the end of the 30's, so it's not so simple and fast

    Putin once said: "This is not 37th now." It’s time to figure it out. In addition, there are other, no less effective means, but for this you need to have a desire, will, and a team. Apparently something is missing. IMHO.
  • artemiy
    artemiy 2 October 2013 09: 20
    10
    Good luck to Putin with the fight against the internal enemy!
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 2 October 2013 23: 07
      +2
      Quote: artemiy
      Good luck to Putin with the fight against the internal enemy!

      Do you offer a guarantor to shoot yourself? Compared to you, M. Leontyev, a great humanist. In one of his articles, he called for a fight for Putin with Putin himself.
  • IRBIS
    IRBIS 2 October 2013 09: 21
    20
    "Firstly, I don't read Medvedev's articles. There is no time to read meaningless texts."
    Gold words! Capacitive and accurate, only for them you can already respect!
    And as for Putin and his actions towards the rest of the "members" of the leadership. There is still hope, but it melts with every new failed case in the field of theft and corruption.
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 2 October 2013 11: 05
      +6
      Yes, you have correctly noted and I would like to add: hopes will collapse when the cases of Serdyukov's "harem" are closed and he himself will remain free!
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 2 October 2013 09: 28
    +5
    Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism, one of the features of which is the concentration of resources. All according to K. Marx.
    "Firstly, I don't read Medvedev's articles. There is no time to read meaningless texts."
    Not taking into account the "deeds" of one of the first leaders of the state is, of course, a wise decision.
    Putin, Medvedev, Chubais, Serdyukov ... are one "team". Some of them are smarter, more cunning, and some .... And to separate the actions of some from the actions of others - wear blinders on your eyes.
  • morpogr
    morpogr 2 October 2013 09: 28
    +6
    Medvedev is a lamb that is being prepared for slaughter, as the last resort says. And while the purges of liberals begin, the authorities have nothing more pleasant for the people when during the crisis the authorities find enemies in the face of the so-hated reformers Chubais, Gozman, Urinson, etc.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 2 October 2013 12: 08
      +5
      And why there was no purge before? :) In 2007, for example, when the liberals were weak and the majority were trusted by Putin? Who created LIVES? :) I remember Putin’s image very well in 2007, when he was presented as a great leader through all channels, who decides everything :) And now he turns out to be nothing :)
      1. atomic
        atomic 2 October 2013 13: 32
        +4
        New Russia, I agree, there’s nothing to add. The impression is that all these Putin, Golubev, Medvedev, Chubais, etc., are not the government of Russia, but a serpentarium, and it’s very close.
      2. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 2 October 2013 14: 39
        +6
        Quote: New Russia
        And why there was no purge before? :) In 2007, for example, when the liberals were weak and the majority were trusted by Putin?

        How why?! The light had to go the evolutionary path - from the main hoist from the knees to the lesser of evils - this is obvious laughing
      3. Botanologist
        Botanologist 2 October 2013 22: 23
        -2
        Quote: New Russia
        In 2007, for example, when the liberals were weak and the majority were trusted by Putin?


        Not so weak, this time.
        The situation in the world was somewhat different, these are two.
        As for "the majority trusted" - but now what, do they not?

        Quote: New Russia
        And now he is unable to do anything :)


        Why so? America overcame, defended Syria. And you "can not do anything" ...

        You generally, a girl, have drawn in your imagination a set of some primitive actions and think that this will help someone fellow
        Not. No one will help. Moreover, the worst thing in the army is initiative. So subject your thoughts to revision - just think about the fact that there are people who cook you like cannon fodder for some kind of skucher, and everything will become clear. Moreover, a nudge will be cheap, and the same patriots will cut you, only of another denomination. And also free. That's your whole DPNish patriotism.
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 2 October 2013 22: 39
          +2
          "So subject your thoughts to revision - just think about the fact that there are people who cook you like cannon fodder for some nix, and everything will become clear. Moreover, the naughty will be cheap, and the same patriots will cut you, only different denominations. And also for free. That's all your DPNishny patriotism. "
          I’m not a member of the Movement Against Illegal Immigration, and I don’t even know much what it is :) And you don’t want to twist your thoughts of revision to understand what you are using to further plunder and destroy the country, having the support of this theft from some part of the people. About Putin's rating http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1212081/
          PS it is not clear who can use me, Navalny? :)
          1. 31231
            31231 2 October 2013 23: 19
            -2
            http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1212081/


            Levada Center in a hurry for echo matzah ?!

            Yeah. Their picture is the most "true".
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 2 October 2013 23: 29
              +3
              I knew that your loyalty to the ideals of the party and government rests on blind faith :) And when Levada called Putin a 66% rating before the election, you certainly believed her :) You only believe what you want
              1. 31231
                31231 2 October 2013 23: 45
                -1
                You know, there are official statistics - elections. And to conduct a survey is not a serious matter. Especially when such "honest" questioners. We came to one of the universities and let's interview.
                And the fact that people work in factories, serve in the service, you can forget about them.
                1. New Russia
                  New Russia 2 October 2013 23: 56
                  +1
                  I agree that Putin's elections were rather honest than not, she herself voted for him on the wave of "anti-orangeism" :) And the elections to the Dumka and the recent elections in September were 100% rigged, and the low turnout says that they do not believe the elections
          2. Botanologist
            Botanologist 2 October 2013 23: 37
            0
            Quote: New Russia
            And you don’t want to twist your revision thoughts in order to understand what you are using to further plunder and destroy the country, having the support of this theft from some part of the people.


            I do not support the government, especially the liberal part of it. But for me this is not a reason to cut someone. And no reason to hate and destroy someone. I just work for the people I respect. And I bring my convictions into their heads as far as I can. First of all, patriotism and pride in Russia. For if you hate this country - nah ..., you have nothing to do here.

            Quote: New Russia
            PS it is not clear who can use me, Navalny? :)


            Use? Yes, anyone. Although I am. Somehow I will come to the polls and offer you the post of agitator for the party of Russian patriots. Some Vasilyev. Or Umalatova lol . And you won’t even know that these patriots have agreed with the local Dagestan brotherhood that they will lobby for the interests of the BIN bank (the bank of the Ingush people). But they will sing like nightingales, they know how.
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 2 October 2013 23: 59
              +1
              "Use? Anyone. Even me. I'll come to the polls one day and offer you the position of agitator for the party of Russian patriots. Some Vasiliev. Or Umalatova" ...
              "For if you hate this country - nah ... you have nothing to do here." I love the country, but I hate the government, I hope there is a difference for you
              1. Botanologist
                Botanologist 3 October 2013 00: 17
                0
                Quote: New Russia
                It won’t work, I don’t go to the polls, I came to the polls - I supported thieves.


                I'm talking about that. There is such a pre-election technology - a decrease in turnout. In professional jargon - "dry the turnout." Do not go.
                You still do not understand that you live in mythical reality? Moreover, these myths are specially developed and introduced into consciousness for a specific purpose. Believe the specialist. The society is atomized by gays, liberals, patriots, beer lovers and pets. Such a society is easy to manage - many ideas and goals reduce resilience. And you, unfortunately, were led like suckers.
                Think turn on the brain! Filter everything you are told. And do not believe that a patriot is sitting somewhere, and tomorrow everyone will be happy. Tomorrow, at best, this patriot will be forced to play other people's games, and he will not even guess about anything.
                Something like this.

                Quote: New Russia
                I love the country, but I hate power, I hope there is a difference for you


                And what are you blaming the country for? Everything is wrong, everything is not that way, the cops are bad, the thieves are good. Have you noticed how the simplest discussion takes you to shitty, in general, matters? So think about why this happens and why your logic starts to fail.
                1. New Russia
                  New Russia 3 October 2013 00: 28
                  +2
                  "Think, turn on your brain! Filter everything that you are told. And do not believe that there is a patriot somewhere, and tomorrow everyone will be happy. Tomorrow, at best, this patriot will be forced to play other people's games, and he even guess what will not happen. " And what do you suggest? If you are against the riot and agree that we cannot change anything in this system
                  "Why are you cursing the country then? It's not like that, it's not like that, the cops are bad, the thieves are good." I scold the system.
                  1. chehywed
                    chehywed 3 October 2013 00: 44
                    -2
                    Quote: New Russia
                    "Think, turn on your brain! Filter everything that you are told. And do not believe that there is a patriot somewhere, and tomorrow everyone will be happy. Tomorrow, at best, this patriot will be forced to play other people's games, and he even guess what will not happen. " And what do you suggest? If you are against the riot and agree that we cannot change anything in this system
                    "Why are you scolding the country then? It's not like that, it's not like that, the cops are bad, the thieves are good." I scold the system

                    What was that ... Kenneth?
          3. Setrac
            Setrac 3 October 2013 05: 19
            0
            Quote: New Russia
            And you don’t want to twist your revision thoughts in order to understand what you are using to further plunder and destroy the country, having the support of this theft from some part of the people.

            Stop counting other people's money, no one is obliged to share with you oil revenues, if you want these incomes - welcome, work beyond the Arctic Circle.
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 2 October 2013 14: 36
      +1
      Quote: morpogr
      In the meantime, the purge of liberals in power will begin

      Whom will they clean themselves? laughing
  • intsurfer
    intsurfer 2 October 2013 09: 29
    +7
    1. On YouTube there is a video of a discussion about Rothschild’s struggle with Rockefeller in the corridors of Russian power.
    2. How can I change only the economic model without changing the rest (courts, political system, etc.) - I do not understand.
  • vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 2 October 2013 09: 39
    +9
    We finally "lived" until the masks were dropped. Two groups "make our economic weather" at the behest of the "world financial elite (God's chosen)"
    What will our "careful Tsar" say? We have too many ("God-chosen") leaders who have crawled into power under the EBN and are pursuing a policy of their "masters" and who do not forget themselves and hang with a heavy weight on our country.
  • drop
    drop 2 October 2013 09: 41
    18
    Yesterday, on a different site and on a different article, I tried to clearly explain that the creation of new jobs in the country is a common task for industrialists. The Minister who speaks about rising unemployment is not the Minister, the Minister who proposes not to modernize production, but to reduce pest specialists. The task is to create new 25 mil. the high-performance jobs that the President spoke about in the election program are doable. Large concerns carry out this Presidential Program, we report on its implementation on a quarterly basis. And here are the Minister’s speeches. Shame and shame.
  • major071
    major071 2 October 2013 09: 51
    +9
    Valery Neonov (1)

    So after all, like Gogol N.V. in "Taras Bulba": "I gave birth to you, I gave birth to you and ...", you know.
    Not wrong! "Than I gave birth to you, so I will kill, and moved back 5 meters."
  • svskor80
    svskor80 2 October 2013 10: 21
    +2
    Conspiracy theories bloom and smell, And Mikhail Khazin revealed all. Well done.
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  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 2 October 2013 10: 25
    +2
    from the Don.
    The less you know, the better you sleep?! But we won’t know what’s happening at the very top. Dosed information comes to us and everyone thinks of it to the best of their ability ....
  • avg
    avg 2 October 2013 10: 28
    +2
    In Russia, in such cases, they say: "A plague on both your houses"
  • 787nkx
    787nkx 2 October 2013 10: 31
    -2
    Imagine that we are starting to engage in import substitution. In 10 years, we will be able to replace 200 billion. That is, we can ensure economic growth somewhere in the 5-7% range without any problems. Moreover, import substitution is not very difficult


    What we will replace with incomprehensible?
  • Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 2 October 2013 10: 36
    12
    There is only one conclusion - our whole elite is selling puppets.

    And we still hope for something. Open your eyes and remove the noodles from the ears.
    And how to understand the phrase "compact state" (this is about Russia!)?
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 2 October 2013 11: 07
      -2
      Quote: Samsebenum
      There is only one conclusion - our whole elite is selling puppets.

      V.Vladimirovich is not a corrupt puppet.
      He is at the very top, above not where, head of state.
      Everything in Russia depends only on his intellectual decisions and his will.
      1. Samsebenaum
        Samsebenaum 2 October 2013 13: 38
        +7
        cosmos111

        Quote: cosmos111
        Everything in Russia depends only on his intellectual decisions and his will.


        This is the trouble.
        I have already seen enough of all kinds of reorganizations in various fields.
        All programs failed miserably.
        The revolutionary experimenter.
        All good things were replaced by Western models.
        Has it gotten better? No!!
        The people imposed an unbearable tribute, through taxes, policies, fines, like Genghis Khan.
        That's all His intellectual decisions.
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 2 October 2013 14: 45
      +4
      Quote: Samsebenum
      There is only one conclusion - our whole elite is selling puppets.

      It’s not necessary at all - a thief does not need to be bribed or forced to start stealing.
    3. plebs
      plebs 2 October 2013 15: 10
      +1
      And how to understand the phrase "compact state" (this is about Russia!)?
      Literally, the size of the Principality of Moscow.
    4. bask
      bask 2 October 2013 16: 55
      +2
      Quote: Samsebenum
      And how to understand the phrase "compact state" (this is about Russia!)?

      Yes, not like Samsebenaume-raving.
      Written in the Kremlin and voiced by DAM.
      He is ZITs Prime, ass, that he will be written and voiced. He is a lightning rod from GDP.
      GDP only ,, good ,, DAM ,, only ,, bad ,,.
  • leon-iv
    leon-iv 2 October 2013 11: 01
    0
    No cheat who minus me there when I talked about devaluation. And that she will help Russia?
    Oh yeah, credit cars will increase the price of a bid and the phone booths will be expensive to change every year. Oh no no no.
  • 3030
    3030 2 October 2013 11: 02
    +3
    Anxious gentlemen, it became very alarming after reading the article ...
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 2 October 2013 11: 09
    +5
    Worry not worry, but things seem to be even shitty than we expected!
    1. 31231
      31231 2 October 2013 12: 19
      -2
      Dada, it's time for you to wrap yourself in a sheet and hang on a poplar. You’ll winter this winter, and there you look and the economy will thaw.
      1. New Russia
        New Russia 2 October 2013 12: 24
        +2
        Hello, you are hoping all :) And you can find out why the economy would thaw?)
        1. 31231
          31231 2 October 2013 14: 59
          0
          Well, judging by the comments, it’s you and Medvedev’s starting to freeze.
      2. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 4 October 2013 08: 35
        -1
        31231-well, what kind you are, a lemon to you in the anus and proctologist of the sapper service! I hope you don’t thaw by spring, otherwise the smell will be ...
  • Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 2 October 2013 11: 12
    +2
    MDA is another kinder surprise. through which the "would-be liberals" throw their little things to us ... and this Ulyukaev's face ... what a damn talkative ... since the Gbachev perestroika, the upper classes have only learned to talk, but they simply do not want to do their job ... you yourself are fed up ..... this kind of parsley turns out .... ps I will not celebrate the new year for the 5th time in a row ..... after I came to the conclusion that the new year brings only troubles and problems. ... and they are directly related to our rulers ... in this we have a strong
  • dmb
    dmb 2 October 2013 11: 25
    +3
    Khazin reminded an old maid. I got confused: "I know, but I won't say the opposite." Who really knows something, he either speaks completely with facts and figures, or is silent. About the prohibition of approvals for landing, this is also strong. Putin told him this over a glass of beer in Valdai, or did he read the Presidential Decree on this subject? Who will tell you to which pre-trial detention center the transfer of Vasilyeva and Serdyukov can be attributed? Everything is much simpler, do not scold Khazin Medvedev, who will need him? The liberals have their own Navalny and Yasin. And then Khazin, as they say, "in trend" and iPhone kicked, and walked around the Guarantor not much, but with respect, and showed his significance, now you can go to the cashier for money. One thing is interesting here, earlier in his criticism he did not particularly personify them, he criticized "power" in general. And here is an opposition. One can assume one thing, the crisis is obvious, and iPhone will soon be held in the "teacher". or which state corporation to run.
  • New Russia
    New Russia 2 October 2013 11: 41
    +9
    “A split is taking place within the elites. One of the groups overseen by Voloshin has begun a process to deprive the legitimacy of Putin’s power, the so-called“ Swamp Process. ”Its purpose was to prevent Putin from coming to the Kremlin with a mandate from the people and thus with the right to cleanse The first two terms he had a mandate from the elite. But he could not cleanse anyone, just as a hired CEO cannot change the composition of the board of directors. "

    I read the comments. It's sad. Many continue to divide power between good Putin and bad Medvedev. I congratulate all of you, the bait "Medvedev is to blame for everything" worked :) Even though both "bad" Golikova, "bad" Nabiullina and the others were appointed by Putin himself, and the main candidate for the prime minister is Kudrin, whom Putin is praised.

    About "patriots" on whom many hope so.

    Rogozin: an idler who does not understand anything judging by his weekly ravings, he ruined and betrayed the only batch of nationalists capable of fighting for power, for which he was awarded a high position in which he immediately forgot about his struggle for the rights of the indigenous population. SON ROGOZINA at the moment, after IzhMasha brought the workers to a salary of 5600 rubles, he is honestly working in the party of crooks and thieves.

    In 1993, Shoigu sided with Yeltsin, handing out assault rifles to him, thereby taking responsibility for the possibility that Yeltsin’s scum would kill people from these assault rifles, for which he was awarded the rank of Major General.

    Minister of Culture Medinsky, there is nothing to say here at all, after he praised the Russophobic abomination causing vomiting, "tired of the sun 2 (with a small letter)" and urged to show it to children so that they know history :)

    "Patriot" Yakunin. Under him, the machinations and theft of money in the Russian Railways reached cosmic proportions, the accident rate is growing every year, and his notorious fur store has become a symbol of his theft and the situation in Russian Railways. Anyone interested can watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKxjJ0ydCgk
    1. 31231
      31231 2 October 2013 12: 24
      -6
      How is your henchman Delyagin doing? Does everything shine (populist) in YouTube? Or began to sharpen drafts and swords?
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      2. New Russia
        New Russia 2 October 2013 12: 34
        +6
        Well, all the same, for the time that I was listening to him, he was not mistaken about the future and predicted the current stagnation back in December. But he doesn’t sharpen drafts simply because he does not call for revolution, but offers to wait until the next time when the recession begins and no one in FIG will even need power from former Putiners :)
        1. 31231
          31231 2 October 2013 15: 03
          +3
          Can I link when he promised a recession ?! I suspect that he has been promising a crisis in the last ten years. Such promisers shout every year about the economic crisis. They will not talk about the country's growing GDP. This is contrary to their opposition ideology.
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 2 October 2013 15: 18
            0
            Well, I don’t know about 10 years, I’ve been listening to him for a year. He predicted stagnation when in December the railway transportation fell sharply. He spoke about the recession in one of the videos, I don’t find something in the text. He also at the beginning of 11 successfully predicted the current decay and the collapse of EdRa
            1. 31231
              31231 2 October 2013 21: 01
              +2
              He predicted stagnation when in December the railway transportation fell sharply.


              In December 2012 ?!
              Can I link to a change in the volume of rail transport in Russia at least in the last three years ?! After all, I hope Delyagin gave a link in his research and forecast, where did he get this information from?
              1. New Russia
                New Russia 2 October 2013 21: 52
                0
                Here is http://world-logistics.net/obem-zheleznodorozhnyx-perevozok-v-rossii-nachal-sniz
                hatsya /
                1. 31231
                  31231 2 October 2013 22: 42
                  -1
                  [quote] Here is http://world-logistics.net/obem-zheleznodorozhnyx-perevozok-v-rossii-nachal-sniz

                  hatsya / [/ quote]
                  I read the article carefully. The author has mixed "people, horses".
                  From the beginning, writes according to Kommersant
                  [quote] Rail transport in Russia began to fall, writes Kommersant. In December 2012, Russian Railways for the first time since the fall of 2009 recorded loading lower than in the same period of the previous year.
                  The total decline amounted to 3,7%, the volumes decreased for almost all cargoes, only supplies of coal, oil and oil products were stable. [/ Quote]

                  And right there according to an official source
                  [quote] Russian Railways published data on loading for 2012. Its volume amounted to 1,27 billion tons - 2,4% more than in 2011. The main drivers of growth were construction cargo (by 14,4%), coal (by 3,9%), oil and oil products (by 3,3%). Against the general positive background, the volumes of loading timber cargo (by 10,8%), non-ferrous ore and sulfur raw materials (by 6,4%), fertilizers (by 3,1%) fell sharply.

                  I guessed why he had such a coitus. But you guessed it?
            2. Setrac
              Setrac 3 October 2013 05: 29
              -1
              Quote: New Russia
              He predicted stagnation when in December the railway transportation fell sharply

              Rail transport decreases every winter and grows again in summer, this is a natural process.
    2. riding
      riding 2 October 2013 14: 52
      0
      That's right, because they are conditionally called patriots, because they have not yet come up with a different name
    3. plebs
      plebs 2 October 2013 15: 22
      +1
      Even despite the fact that both "bad" Golikova and "bad" Nabiullina and the rest were appointed by Putin himself, and the main candidate for the prime minister is Kudrin, whom Putin praised so much
      And he was the prime minister, that is, the direct chief of Serdyukov, in the midst of the fun of the Minister of Defense and Co.
      1. wax
        wax 5 October 2013 16: 20
        0
        plebs
        “In the midst of the fun, Serdyukov was directly led by President Medvedev.
        In this lies the dog of Serdyukov (and Medvedev) future fate.
  • Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 2 October 2013 11: 49
    +6
    I don’t know, guys, but I see this: more than once in history, the appointee suddenly found the meaning of existence and became a prophet. Remember Lenin, led by Jewish-German statesmen, having come to power, he sent them; Stalin, who was not taken seriously by the Bolshevik elites, took the reins in his hands; Khrushchev, the corn buffoon, also raped his own; Brezhnev, who was also not taken seriously by anyone, had been in power for decades. Putin, an assistant with a master's portfolio in his hands, was suddenly appointed to the first position, as an executive officer, seemingly a puppet, but overgrown with the ideas of a statesman, began to move independently. Good luck to him!
  • Lolocat
    Lolocat 2 October 2013 11: 50
    +4
    Well, if our top is a puppet, then who are we?
    About Medvedev is now fashionable. Then who chose him at one time?
    (He was the president after all)
    1. Dima67
      Dima67 2 October 2013 12: 13
      +4
      What do you! This is a classic plot. One is good and all good is connected with it, the other is bad and all bad is brought down on him.
      1. New Russia
        New Russia 2 October 2013 12: 26
        +7
        Art. 80 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the president is responsible for domestic and foreign policy, the prime minister only follows his instructions
        1. Dima67
          Dima67 2 October 2013 12: 52
          +6
          And if the president does not know what his right hand is doing, then what should he do? Or is it like in a children's cartoon about a girl who was not the mistress of her arms and legs?
          1. New Russia
            New Russia 2 October 2013 13: 00
            +4
            He knows everything, he just made Medvedev, stole, made concessions to the West on the WTO, and now he will transfer everything to Medvedev and fire him :)
            1. 31231
              31231 2 October 2013 21: 03
              -1
              Suns, you speak so much for Putin that sometimes it seems to me that someone Alina Kabaeva is hiding behind the nickname New Russia.
              He’s got cowards with a hammer and a sickle ?!
              1. New Russia
                New Russia 2 October 2013 21: 59
                +2
                Oh, nothing but insults have nothing to say? :) I'm talking about Putin, because I express my opinion about who is the reason for everything in Russia, because the topic is this. We are talking about politics, right? :)
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 2 October 2013 13: 46
          +5
          Quote: New Russia
          the president is responsible for domestic and foreign policy, the prime minister only follows his instructions

          In April, Putin has already shown how he implements Presidential Decrees. Now again a song about a white bull. It seems that it pours water on the Swamp mill and believes that for this he will not be anything. This can only happen when a big brother with a full wallet is standing behind him. And in order to express such projects, one must rely on the strength of another camp. Here you’ll think: who benefits from popular unrest? And what have you, as Prime Minister, done to improve the country's economy. There is only one calculation: the Guarantor will answer for everything. Therefore, if the GDP does not send him to the department, he will be personally responsible for all the failures, and this is the rating, this is the election ...
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 2 October 2013 14: 57
            +3
            Quote: BoA KAA
            This can only be when a big brother with a full wallet is standing behind him.

            Not only...
    2. Very old
      Very old 2 October 2013 12: 58
      +1
      Zits-chairman of the Pound. Temporarily not performing any duties. His task was to SIT!
      1. Dima67
        Dima67 2 October 2013 13: 26
        +1
        Well, how will it be, as we see it, we will draw conclusions. God will not betray, the pig will not eat.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 2 October 2013 15: 00
          +4
          Quote: Dima67
          Well, how will it be, as we see it, we will draw conclusions. God will not betray, the pig will not eat.
          1. Dima67
            Dima67 2 October 2013 17: 29
            +2
            Thank. Laughed!
  • major071
    major071 2 October 2013 12: 25
    +7
    Lolocat

    Well, if our top is a puppet, then who are we?
    About Medvedev is now fashionable. Then who chose him at one time?
    (He was the president after all)
    Well, I personally voted for Zhirinovsky, I wanted him to make the whole world laugh as well as us. And there were no more candidates.
    1. fklj
      fklj 2 October 2013 12: 45
      +5
      And there were no more candidates.

      The court jester is not a candidate.
      1. major071
        major071 3 October 2013 10: 36
        +6
        There were all the jesters. All the difference - some are younger, others are older.
  • nod739
    nod739 2 October 2013 12: 27
    +3
    Quote: Samsebenum
    And how to understand the phrase "compact state" (this is about Russia!)?

    under Stalin - at best, they would have sent to Magadan
  • Lolocat
    Lolocat 2 October 2013 13: 13
    +1
    Previous post - Sarcasm)
    I was informed that Medvedev would become president back in 2006, as soon as he began to flicker on the screens.
    Need to do something. Well then what?
  • Normal
    Normal 2 October 2013 13: 18
    0

    And here the elite split. The First Group [Obama - Ed.] stands for the need to reformat the entire financial system: make several independent currency centers based on the dollar, euro, yuan, rupee and the ruble (the latter is based on the basis of the greatly expanded Customs Union).

    Another group [IMF group - ed.] Believes that it is necessary to keep everything as it is and to seize the Federal Reserve back (the emission center of America - ed.). She began to move Larry Summers to the post of Fed ........ But last week, the issue with Summers was resolved. He withdrew his candidacy. And literally the day after that, Putin delivers his speech on Valdai, in which he says that Russia needs a new identity, homosexuality is not our profile and much more. Do you understand where the wind blows from?


    Something I do not understand.
    With mine, with the mind ....
    Tea does not bast bread cabbage soup.
    I make out what's what.

    If you believe Khazin, it turns out that Putin receives instructions from the State Department, and not Bolotnaya at all. Or is it Obama pursuing a policy in the interests of the Eurasian Commonwealth, Putin and the ruble.
    Here is such a fortel from Khazin ..... Minus.
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 2 October 2013 13: 19
    +1
    <<< There is one subtlety. For the people who run the government and the Central Bank, the sun rises in Washington, and they cannot afford to take that 200 billion from their best friends. Therefore, while they are in power, nothing will change. >>>
    It just begs for itself and, it seems, the president has no other way out than to DESTROY all these figures of power!
    <<< So if someone has close ties with companies that are "protected" by Chubais or Voloshin, I strongly recommend looking for another "cover". >>>
    And the "roofers" themselves were WAITING for in places not so remote! If this happens, the president's rating from this may simply go off scale!
  • avia12005
    avia12005 2 October 2013 13: 22
    +1
    Stalin in 1925, 1937 and 9145 was also different
  • Lolocat
    Lolocat 2 October 2013 13: 22
    +2
    [quote = Goldmitro] <<< There is one subtlety. For people who are already EXPECTED in places not so remote!

    Totally agree
    Serdyukov first there.
    1. avia12005
      avia12005 2 October 2013 13: 24
      +1
      It can not be: otherwise the Army of Russia will never sober up drinks