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Iran's foreign policy: At the crossroads ?!

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Iran's foreign policy: At the crossroads ?!



"Iran is now, like Maximilien Robespierre - between tragedy and farce!"
Dmitry Ershov @David_Arius


The end of last week was marked by a sharp "warming" of relations between the US and Iran. The newly elected President of Iran, Hassan Rouhani, attended the UN General Assembly in New York and even 15 minutes talked on the phone with US President Barack Obama. In fact, this is an unprecedented event for the whole history The Islamic Republic of Iran, where until then the United States had not been called the “Big Satan” before. True, at home, Rouhani’s initiatives to begin a dialogue with the United States were not approved by everyone. As a result, Iranian conservatives threw Rouhani's motorcade with boots.

What lies behind such drastic US maneuvers in the Middle East ?! And the essence here is the same. Having suffered a complete fiasco in late August-early September this year with the start of the Great Regional War in the region, the demiurges of these processes took a different path. At one time, Plutarch ascribed to Philip of Macedon (The father of the very Alexander of Macedon) saying that "A donkey loaded with gold will take an impregnable fortress". In the USA now, apparently, this thesis was adopted as a guide to action in the Middle East.

So let's see who and what is needed there.

What does the USA need ?!

The elite of the United States, the one that really "rules", and does not sit in the White House and Congress, you need a big regional war. The reason here is simple and clear, like "2 + 2"! These are economic problems. The external debt of the United States has already gone beyond all reasonable limits, the domestic debt is even longer than the external one, and we should add more "dirty assets", "financial bubbles" and a fully virtual economy, and, most importantly, a dollar that is not secured. Since even almost all of their gold reserves and a part of someone else’s in addition, the United States has long been sold off to a quiet one. There is one way out in this situation - this is war. But the problem is that no one wants to fight, and there is no serious reason. This is the beginning of September this year in the United States understood and changed the strategy.

What does Iran need ?!

Iran is the richest country. The truth is that it is hampered by international isolation and sanctions, which were imposed on Iran by the West, or more precisely, by the United States. This has been done through the UN or through someone else - this is not so important. The fact itself is important - the US is behind the sanctions against Iran.

Accordingly, in Iran, where the economic situation because of the sanctions is very, very sad, they want only one to remove these sanctions. Sanctions - a kind of American "carrot" for Iran, with which you can do a lot. This has been clear for a long time. For example, this is why I, as the 3 of the month, have constantly said that Russia should unilaterally withdraw sanctions from Iran. Then the US "carrot" would simply disappear, Iran would start developing normally, and our country got access to the markets of half of the Middle East and oil for "5 kopecks." But, unfortunately, although they listened, they did not hear.

Well, now US Secretary of State John Kerry declaresThat: "The decision to lift international sanctions against Iran can be made in the coming months. To do this, Tehran needs to cooperate and open facilities for inspections of the country's nuclear program.". What does all this mean and where does Iran’s nuclear program ?!

This means only one thing. The US elite decided to take extreme measures and began to offer Iran a "carrot" in the form of lifting the sanctions. At the same time, I, unlike my good friend and colleague political scientist Lev VershininI still think that Iran is not yet tamed, and in the leadership of this country there are far from “donkeys” who can easily be taken by this very “carrot”.

What is the price issue?

So, back to the Iranian nuclear program. Do you want me to tell you all a terrible-prestrashnuyu secret? Actually, Iran’s nuclear program is of no interest to anyone except Iran itself. This is just a reason. For example, nuclear weapon in large quantities has long been in a country like Israel. Israel is a Zionist state. According to the same Resolution No. 3379 of the UN General Assembly entitled “Elimination of all forms of racial discrimination”Zionism is nothing but a form of racism and racial discrimination. That is, Israel is a racist state that discriminates against the rights of a part of its population. But at the same time, Israel has several hundred nuclear warheads, but something is not heard about the sanctions against Israel. At the same time, Iran is not a racist state, but sanctions have been imposed on it, although Iran still does not have any nuclear weapons.

Another nuclear weapon is in a regime like the Kim Jong Un regime in the DPRK, as well as in Pakistan. Honestly, I am not ready to call Kim Jong-un a sane politician. In my opinion, he, like his dad Kim Jong Il, is sick with his head. And this is incurable. And Pakistan, with its "Taliban" and a bunch of other evil spirits, to call my language a stable state. But here the racist regime of Israel, “frozen” over the whole head of the regime of the DPRK and the unstable regime of Pakistan, has nuclear weapons, but Iran does not. Paradox?! But no!

Iran, in principle, might want to have a nuclear bomb, but Tehran would not have much sense from it. For example, the DPRK, for example, has a nuclear bomb, but what is the use of it in real terms ?! But at the same time, Iran is important in the development of nuclear energy. The country just needs electricity. Hence all the radioactive components. By the way, our RosAtom is engaged in the development of Iran’s nuclear power industry. Literally the other day in "Rosatom" stated on the transfer of Bushehr NPP to Iran. What the hell is a nuclear weapon ?!

The point here is different. The United States and Iran will not negotiate on Iran’s nuclear program, which really doesn’t care not only that the United States, but even Israel and I have already explained above why, but in Syria. The United States will offer "exchange" to Tehran. That is, Iran "surrenders" the regime of Bashar Assad in Syria in exchange for the lifting of sanctions from Iran. Of course, the "tame" Israel is already noisy, but this is a noise to nowhere. With this, Barack Obama in negotiations with the same Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyagu also explicitly stated that: "I do not remove from consideration any options, not excluding military actions. The United States agrees that everything must be done so that Iran does not possess nuclear weapons.".

What does all of this mean?!

So this is only the fact that first on the sidelines of Iran, American diplomats will offer to “exchange” Syria in exchange for the lifting of sanctions. Accordingly, if such agreements are reached, then everyone will know from the media that, in fact, Iran simply does not have a nuclear program. At the same time, the same Benjamin Netanyagu will continue to shout to the whole world that this is not the case, and Iran will have a terrible and terrible teratermoyadern “shaitan pipe” from which almost all the people will die tomorrow. And, you know, what will happen in three or four months after the American Jews in Saudi Saudi money overthrew the regime of Bashar al-Assad ?! So, the "whole world" will hear Netanyagu screaming about the mythical nuclear program of Iran and Iran, everything will start in a new way. With the only difference that having lost the outpost in Syria in the face of Bashar Assad and the SAR Army, as well as the outpost in Lebanon in the face of the Hezbollah movement, Iran will be doomed to be in the "ring" of friends in the face of the radical Islamists of Iraq and Sham and the Kurds (With whom Iran’s leadership is not so good) from the West; Turkey and Azerbaijan from the North; Afghan Taliban (Who in half a year is likely to completely take power in Afghanistan) from the East and the "Monarchy of the Persian Gulf" from the South. For Iran, this will only mean the end.

I just hope that this situation is understood in Tehran. Because in the case of the fall of Damascus, the collapse of Iran itself is inevitable, just as a major regional war in the Middle East is inevitable, with the subsequent radicalization of the entire Middle East and the arrival of all this evil in Central Asia, as well as in the Russian North Caucasus and the Russian Volga region.

PS: In the 20th century, the Zionist Rothschild Jews, through their puppets, Bush and Rockefeller, brought Adolf Hitler to power in Germany. Who is interested to know the real historical facts, then about all this is described in detail in the relevant chapter of my book "The twentieth century: Russia against the backdrop of global betrayal". As we all know, then Adolf Hitler gave a “Holocaust”. As the German philosopher Georg Hegel said, "All the great world-historical events and personalities are repeated twice: the first time as a tragedy, and the second - as a farce". The tragedy has already happened in the 1939 year. Now the farce will repeat ... Although in perspective with the same tragic consequences.
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  1. marder4
    marder4 1 October 2013 08: 38 New
    +3
    I would like to hope that the author is not right and the "big regional war" will not start at our side ...
    1. kostik1301
      kostik1301 1 October 2013 15: 50 New
      +2
      With our authorities, you need to prepare for anything and not just for the Middle East war
    2. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 1 October 2013 23: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: marder4
      I would like to hope that the author is not right and the "big regional war" will not start at our side ...

      I would like the authors, before posting stupid things, at first to grasp what they wrote themselves. I get the impression that only our compatriots have such a wording as "surrender the country." Syria is a package of pasta? Or half a kilogram of potatoes? Iran may be a large country, but in relation to Syria it is just an equal partner. Irna cannot surrender Syria and will never do it. So is Russia. Because each country in this conflict defends its interests, and not the interests of allies or third states. And the US can offer nothing to Iran to change this situation. Moreover, if the United States is struck in Syria, then Iran will get involved in this war without hesitation.

      The warming of relations between the US and Iran is associated with the failure of US policy in the Middle East. Now, when the USA cannot speak from a position of strength, they are forced to get involved in negotiations. Since otherwise, Iran-Iraq-Syria will strike back at US allies in the region and knock the United States out of this region. That just bury the United States as an independent state.
  2. Strashila
    Strashila 1 October 2013 08: 39 New
    +3
    Amer’s normal attempt to buy ... what if it turns out. But Syria can be surrendered only once ... but sanctions can be canceled and can be imposed many times ... there are reasons. Syria is the buffer ... remove it and the enemy will stand on the Iranian border, well, hello there another seasoned spring! ... scenarios tested ... current Iran will not have allies.
    1. alone
      alone 1 October 2013 22: 26 New
      +3
      Syria does not border Iran. Although one could look at a map. And the enemy is already on the border with Iran. Moreover, without Syria
    2. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 1 October 2013 23: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Strashila
      Amer’s normal attempt to buy ... what if it turns out. But Syria can be surrendered only once ... but sanctions can be canceled and can be imposed many times ... there are reasons. Syria is the buffer ... remove it and the enemy will stand on the Iranian border, well, hello there another seasoned spring! ... scenarios tested ... current Iran will not have allies.

      There can be no color revolution in Iran, since there is no such layer as liberals. The youthful performances there are related to local economic problems, and not to political or religious complaints.
      The US is not trying to buy Iran, they want to buy off Iran.
  3. rugor
    rugor 1 October 2013 08: 43 New
    +3
    Iran is a rich country.


    More precisely, it was during the time of Persia

    Raging inflation, low living standards and backward industrial production are unlikely to lead Iran into world economic leaders in the next 10-20 years. Sanctions only laid bare all the country's problems depriving it of "oil medicine"
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 1 October 2013 09: 24 New
      +4
      The realities of today's Iran are the total dissatisfaction of the population with mullococracy, which interfere with everything from the economy to sports, inflation, extremely mediocre work with national minorities (which make up almost 45% of the population), corruption and poverty. Villages in Iran - this is a must see! Shacks, poverty and complete hopelessness. All talk about the greatness and unity of the people and leadership from complete ignorance of the real situation. However, for the sake of objectivity, I add that the prices there are low compared to the CIS countries, although in recent years they have grown significantly. This can be explained by the low purchasing power of the population. The medicine there is not bad, most of the doctors graduated from German universities.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 1 October 2013 11: 48 New
        +8
        Quote: xetai9977
        the total discontent of the population with mullocracy, which interfere with everything from the economy to sports,

        - Are Iranians dissatisfied with "mullocracy"? Yes, I partly confirm that I’m dissatisfied, especially dissatisfied especially with young Iranians, whose testosterone regularly fills molars. In Kazakhstan, they study a lot, regularly roll their bodies to our girls, our girls are already having fun trolling them on the topic “YOU CAN’T! You’ll be fine, I’ll stay with you, but I will inform your mullahs about our affair!” And really, this joke scares them. Are they cruelly executed there? And for such a prank? Be that as it may - they may be unhappy with this, as you put it, mullocracy, but in reality it benefits both Iran and the very young Iranians - they aren’t so spoiled, they don’t have such a filthy low-minded, contemptuous and consumeristic attitude to girls, only from the point of view “if she could blow in the oral way with the elements of beating and extinguishing cigarettes on her body!”, like our guys, and Iranian girls have no so-called behavior "gulls". So the Iranians there are unhappy - let them put their discontent away, let them look at us and look, let them continue to live in the conditions of "mullocracy, because the alternative to this very mullocracy is the so-called" secular-liberal racism "in which we live - EVEN WORSE !!! MUCH WORSE !!!!!

        Quote: xetai9977
        corruption and poverty. Villages in Iran - this is a must see! Shacks, poverty and total futility
        - Have you read the subject carefully? Sanctions, mister good, sanctions. If even a tenth of what was applied to Iran is applied to your country, you will have a famine, and in Iran only a bad economic situation. Do not judge down here, presenting as if Iran with its "mullococracy" is poorly governed - the fault is EXCLUSIVELY US!
        Back in the 90s, when there were no such sanctions yet, I dragged Iranian wallpapers and cool ceramic tiles from Mashhad to Kazakhstan, next to which is not exactly the products of your country - Russian products looked very pale, and Mashhad himself surprised me with his industrial development. Now there is devastation - the magical power of sanctions.
        Putin, remove sanctions unilaterally! The author of the subject is absolutely right.
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 1 October 2013 12: 16 New
          +5
          I carefully read your point of view. Of course, sanctions harm any economy. But apparently, you have not been to Iran since the 90s, and we go there several times a year, and I assure you that they started having problems long before the sanctions. I do not share your beliefs about " mullocracy is better than liberalism. " If by the term "liberalism" you mean depravity and permissiveness, then certainly yes. And if the mullah will tell you what you should do, how to work and when to work, what to do at a certain time, then of course you will not like it. The Iranian economy in the 80s and 90s has not yet eaten the remnants of the prosperity of the Shah's times. Now sellers are insistently asking to pay for the goods in dollars and euros, and the quality of Iranian goods is not much better than Chinese consumer goods. You will not find such villages as in Iran in the CIS. Have they been so degraded during the sanctions? Of course not, since I saw it back in 1993. Do you believe that with the lifting of sanctions Iran will develop by leaps and bounds? I personally am far from certain. No need to read abstruse articles, just talk to people and much will become clear.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 1 October 2013 13: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: xetai9977
            The quality of Iranian goods is not much better than Chinese consumer goods.
            - Excuse me, the quality of Iranian tiles "Taxaram" is not much better than Chinese? laughing Nu-nu, excuse me, you are biased. Due to the disgusting demand caused by the poor economic environment, this company went bankrupt. So the guilt of sanctions is full and comprehensive, and not the way you present it - well, like, "yes, there is a fellow sanctioner here."
            Quote: xetai9977
            If by the term "liberalism" you mean depravity and permissiveness, then certainly yes.

            - These are completely inseparable two twin brothers, one does not exist without the other. Liberalism cannot exist outside of excessive freedom, which is more correctly called corruption and permissiveness.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 1 October 2013 13: 10 New
              +4
              Quote: xetai9977
              And if the mullah will tell you what you should do, how to work and when to work, what to do at a certain time, then of course you will not like it.

              - I agree, I will not like it. I didn’t really like when in the USSR an authorized person (either a history teacher, or a Komsomol leader, the so-called "instructor of the Komsomol district committee," or someone else) also roughly pointed out to me
              Quote: xetai9977
              what should I do, how to work and when to work, what to do at a certain time

              and even what should I think about US policy and the bourgeoisie in general. So what? Now I understand that of the two evils you need to choose the least, and I inform you and the Iranians directly that they misunderstand something - tolerating and, if possible, quietly sabotaging all the mullah pointers is much less evil than what they will have then when the Americans burst in and expelled these mullahs.
              Quote: xetai9977
              Do you believe that with the lifting of sanctions Iran will develop by leaps and bounds?
              - I do not believe, I am sure. In any case, this “Mullah” state, with all its fanaticism, is successfully mastering (of course, for its own survival) the most sophisticated nuclear, missile, unmanned and other military technologies that I don’t see in my country (while the Kazakhs rinse the North Koreans so much, there’s so much sarcasm and HIGH ARCTIM in relation to the North Koreans and personally to Kim Jong-un (by the way, this is a fly in the ointment in SAJ), forgetting that the Kazakhs also want to master Baikonur, but only in contrast to the North Koreans despised by them, the Kazakhs really have a gut into space then nka, Russians laugh so hard. laughing laughing ) So you are likened to us - you are ready to purchase weapons from anyone, that from the Russians, that from the Jews, from the entire line, only the kurpnokaliberny rifle is mastered, which characterizes your level of science and technology is just fine, but how much arrogance and contempt for the Iranians - Wow! laughing laughing
              I’m telling you as a person from the outside — to someone, but not to you, backward neighbors, to criticize Iran. As well as non-Kazakhs to criticize the DPRK. No offense, just a statement of fact.
            2. xetai9977
              xetai9977 1 October 2013 13: 56 New
              +2
              Dear, freedom is never excessive, what you mean is called ANARCHY. As the saying goes, these are two big differences. Well, unfortunately, you have already moved from a normal dialogue to personalities such as a "backward neighbor," which by no means adds arguments in your favor. And to call a spade a spade is in your "arrogance and pride"? Although, as a representative of my people, I have every right to despise the Persians, if only for the fact that the 30 million people do not have schools in their native language. However, like the Arabs, Lurs, Balochis, and Turkmens. All meetings in other languages, even literary evenings, are prohibited.
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 1 October 2013 14: 42 New
                +4
                Quote: xetai9977
                Well, unfortunately, you have already moved from a normal dialogue to personalities such as a "backward neighbor",

                “Well, first of all, before hurtting you somehow, I hurt mine, it’s all for the sake of JUSTICE — you probably noted that.” Ascribed below - no offense, just a statement. In abbreviated form, before criticizing, it would be nice to look in the mirror. That is all I wanted to say.
                Quote: xetai9977
                Dear, freedom is never excessive, what you mean is called ANARCHY

                “To be honest, I don't care what it's called.” It’s all the same the name of what the West is now pushing into our countries and certainly pushing to Iran after the “expulsion of the mullahs” - I called it all for myself “an orgy of the reproductive organs of sexual minorities,” you can call it whatever you like. Despite the fact that I don’t care what all this is called, I don’t care at all that it is being successfully introduced under the watchful eye of Amers, and we are still proud of it.
                Quote: xetai9977
                And to call a spade a spade is in your "arrogance and pride"?
                - in this case, both Kazakh and Azerbaijani are similar to two who were deceived by an evil wizard. Earlier, both Kazakh and Azerbaijani lived poorly, but were able to do a lot of things. Especially Azerbaijani. Let me remind you - the world's first COMPACT (not desktop, but already small, the size of a sewing foot machine) computer released (!) Baku, the machine was called Nairi-K. What is now in Azerbaijan at least at the global level (even without the word "first in the world")? But he wanted to live richly. And the wizard offered them this "wealth" - he stuffed them with pockets of green garbage, but in return they removed a lot of knowledge and skills from their heads. Since then, Kazakh and Azerbaijani have been walking around, picking green garbage from their pockets and madly proud of it. One douses the contempt of Koreans. Another is harassing the southern neighbor. And both call this process of calling neighbors "naming things by their proper names." And they don’t even understand that they have EMPTY in their head! And this garbage will turn into candy wrappers, as in that novel by Bulgakov, exactly at that moment when that evil wizard either dies or disappears, or that wizard’s mood changes and he decides to change the rules of the game. Yeah!

                Quote: xetai9977
                Although, as a representative of my people, I have the right to despise the Persians, if only for the fact that the 30 million people do not have schools in their native language. However, like the Arabs, Lurs, Balochis, and Turkmens. All meetings in other languages, even literary evenings, are prohibited.

                - these are the peculiarities of their domestic policy, it’s not for you to go there. What is sovereignty - have you heard? So you need not to hear, but to watch.
                1. xetai9977
                  xetai9977 1 October 2013 18: 31 New
                  +3
                  The emptiness in the head manifests itself in refusing others to have their own opinion. And to any Azerbaijani and I'm sure any Kazakh is not only violet, but even gray with a brown tint, the opinion of some to teach us whom we should respect and who not. We, like all normal nations, cannot be indifferent to the fate of our brothers.
                  1. aksakal
                    aksakal 1 October 2013 23: 09 New
                    +1
                    Quote: xetai9977
                    The emptiness in the head manifests itself in refusing others to have their own opinion
                    - you defend pluralism of opinions, and I defend pluralism of regimes.
                    There are different modes. Somewhere "mullocracy", somewhere - Juchekratia ", somewhere" bash "must certainly be in gold, and somewhere the dictatorship of" democracy ", somewhere the dominance of" juvenile "... For some reason, you insist on the pluralism of opinions, while denying peoples the right to their own regime, only the dictatorship of “democracy.” Sorry, disagree. May His Majesty “natural selection” choose the optimal regime himself, not the fact that your vaunted “democracy” is more viable than other formations Most likely, even in the near future it will collapse first. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is my IMHO. criticize other regimes, especially in favor of America.
        2. alone
          alone 1 October 2013 22: 28 New
          +3
          ))) Iranians visiting Azerbaijan get drunk vodka until you drop. And everyone scolds their power, which prohibits alcohol.
          1. mirag2
            mirag2 2 October 2013 05: 18 New
            +1
            But is it really good that they get drunk? Somehow recently we also had almost a dry law (under Gorbachev), too, they got drunk and no one praised him for it.
    2. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 1 October 2013 23: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: rugor
      Raging inflation, low living standards and backward industrial production are unlikely to lead Iran into world economic leaders in the next 10-20 years. Sanctions only laid bare all the country's problems depriving it of "oil medicine"

      Inflation is a recent phenomenon. The industry is the most developed in the region. Neither Germany nor France has independent space programs. Iran has both a space project and an atomic one. The country provides for itself all and lives in the sanction regime for the past 40 years.
      In the case of the completion of the nuclear project, Iran will protect itself from Israel and the United States, and this will lead to gigemony in the region. Iran will crush both the Saudis and Turkey. It's a question of time.
  4. Trailer
    Trailer 1 October 2013 08: 43 New
    +2
    Rukhani, of course, a peacemaker, but the population must be listened to. And then the shah forgot about it once! Like there: the higher the fence, the stronger the friendship.
  5. Stiletto
    Stiletto 1 October 2013 09: 09 New
    +5
    If Syria falls, Iran will have almost no chance of remaining. And in Iran it is well understood. In any case, I would very much like to hope so.
  6. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 1 October 2013 09: 14 New
    +2
    The end of last week was marked by a sharp "warming" of relations between the United States and Iran.- which nevertheless did not stop Obama from expressing that “Washington does not exclude military action against Iran because of its nuclear program.” And if Iran “responds” to the proposal of the Amers to “merge” Syria, then it’s the next US victim ( Iran) and will. hi
  7. erased
    erased 1 October 2013 09: 14 New
    +2
    The Rockefellers have never been at the Rothschild's errands. They always worked together or against each other, but in a "peaceful" way. The rest of the author is right. Syria-Iran link can still withstand the pressure of the United States, one at a time they will be broken. And then the turn of Russia will come.
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    2. timer
      timer 1 October 2013 22: 15 New
      +1
      Firstly, I agree, and secondly, Russia needs to work closely with Iran. By the way, if amers cherish al-Qaeda and use it as a battering ram, why don’t we promote Hezbollah to solve Russian interests (Iran supports it)
  8. Sirocco
    Sirocco 1 October 2013 09: 32 New
    0
    Article of Mr. Ershov, super, chewed, and laid out on shelves. Especially amused the theme of Israel.
    But the racist regime of Israel, which was "frozen" all over the DPRK regime and the unstable regime of Pakistan, has nuclear weapons, but Iran does not. Paradox?! Oh no!
    Of course, “tame” Israel is already making noise, but it is noise nowhere.
    At the same time, the same Benjamin Netanyahu will continue to yell to the whole world that this is not so and Iran will almost ready tomorrow have a terrible and terrible tera-thermonuclear “shaitan pipe” from which all people will die.
    . As you look, politics is a mirror image of business, everyone is trying to fuck each other, posing as an attempt to have a partner, for good intentions. lol
  9. avt
    avt 1 October 2013 10: 35 New
    +2
    And in what the author actually saw a crossroads ??? Well, the mullah drove on the ears of the UN, so what? They are guys on their minds, and most importantly, we must not forget that, according to their religious leadership, which Khomeini laid down, for us after the Great Satan, the United States is generally the following. For the time being, this is all peace and friendship in the supply of weapons and the construction of nuclear power plants.
  10. runway
    runway 1 October 2013 10: 38 New
    +3
    Whether Iran recognizes the Holocaust or does not recognize whether it will abandon its nuclear program or not, it does not matter. Iran is next to Syria. So the US geopolitics is built. The ultimate goal of which is world domination. Therefore, at this stage, the main goal will be countries opposing the United States and supporting China, in order to weaken the latter.
  11. Altona
    Altona 1 October 2013 10: 51 New
    +4
    Something they don’t believe in these US promises, they also “promised” NATO not to move and not to produce some weapons, but the promise remained the promise ... Moreover, even the legally executed promises they either do not fulfill or do not ratify , or after a short period of time they withdraw from the contracts ...
  12. uhu189
    uhu189 1 October 2013 10: 59 New
    0
    Since then, the Rockefellers have become Rothschild puppets, where does the author get such knowledge?
    If anyone is interested in analytics on Iran and the Middle East - read the El Murid blog - the situation there is described an order of magnitude higher and more professionally, and the situation in Iran is more realistic and the analysis is confirmed by the course of events
    1. David_Arius
      1 October 2013 11: 11 New
      0
      Murid is inadequate. Any nonsense writes. Here, for example, the analysis in my LiveJournal of his tales - http://david-arius.livejournal.com/429555.html
      1. uhu189
        uhu189 1 October 2013 11: 31 New
        0
        I can’t agree with you, it’s quite adequate, and there is nothing delusional in its texts, and as for Iran and the USA, everything is developing quite in the subject. Unfortunately I can’t see your link yet, LJ is blocked at work
        1. David_Arius
          1 October 2013 22: 50 New
          +1
          Bullshit about Lavrov’s resignation - is that really adequate ?!
          1. uhu189
            uhu189 2 October 2013 10: 22 New
            0
            From my point of view, a completely possible scenario. Thus, they tried to send Yakunin to resign. Do you have your own sources in the presidential apparatus that allow you to judge differently? Or the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers send you accounting reports on completed transactions - what do you make such statements in your articles with such ease? Before scattering diagnoses it might be easier to think a little? I understand that you had a conflict with Musin, and accordingly, El-Murid, but maybe you shouldn’t pour it on the public? Although this is of course your right, it is not for me to judge you ... I will repeat only - the analysis of the situation from El-Murid seems to me quite reasonable and adequate, moreover, the development of the situation in Syria and around relations between Iran and the US Presidential Administration. I cannot agree with your estimates, since they do not take into account many regional factors. Sorry for the bulk.
    2. David_Arius
      1 October 2013 11: 13 New
      0
      As for the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Now the assets of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are combined OFFICIALLY. At the same time, the Rockefellers de facto do not dispose of anything there. About the rest I already wrote above.
  13. 222222
    222222 1 October 2013 12: 20 New
    +2
    Friendship from the United States has not brought anyone to good ... In Iran, this has already passed recently ..
  14. silver_roman
    silver_roman 1 October 2013 14: 06 New
    -1
    What I like most is Israel’s behavior amid Syria’s refusal of chemical weapons and their subsequent elimination. Easy also decided to abandon chemical weapons. Likely soon they will start yelling about their humanity and solidarity. Of course, nobody talks about nuclear weapons in Israel.
    The lousy world outside the window unfolds and only. I am surprised at the endurance of our diplomats, when everyone understands everything, i.e. "hu hu" and how to take it and not to crush some representative of the world in the whole world and democrat the skull.
  15. starch
    starch 1 October 2013 14: 19 New
    +2
    The blogger El-Murid (Anatoly Nesmiyan) sees it all a little differently. Iranian ayatollahs (and they are real power, the president is not the head of state there) are not so stupid as to take such a rash step as surrendering Syria ... http://el-murid.livejournal.com/1330703.html and http: //el-murid.livejournal.com/1330983.html
  16. kaktus
    kaktus 1 October 2013 14: 34 New
    +1
    Iran is a rich country.
    and ancient civilization
  17. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 1 October 2013 15: 18 New
    +1
    Because in the event of the fall of Damascus, the collapse of Iran itself is inevitable, as well as a great regional war in the Middle East with the subsequent radicalization of the entire Middle East and the arrival of all this evil spirits then in Central Asia, as well as in the Russian North Caucasus and the Russian Volga region.

    I hope in Iran there are wise heads to not succumb to the "persuasion of modern Satan." And for our leaders, without looking back at Washington, it’s more reasonable to “remove the Washington carrot”, thereby eliminating the danger of a difficult situation in Central Asia and the Caucasus.
  18. Mhpv
    Mhpv 1 October 2013 16: 32 New
    +1
    If, in 1939, representatives of the British, German or Soviet political elite were told that by the end of the war Iran would be in the sphere of US national interests, that it would be in Iran that one of the first conflicts of the Cold War would occur and that American and Soviet interests would collide here, that the United States would leading positions in foreign trade

    Iran, they probably would not have believed 1. And the Americans themselves would most likely consider these predictions unbelievable. And they had good reason for this.

    US Secretary of State C. Hull in his memoirs recalled: “Before the war, our relations with Iran were never of great importance. Iranian foreign policy focused on Russia and Britain "........

    CyberLenink Science Library: http://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/iran-vo-vneshney-politike-ssha-nakanune-iv-per
    vyy-period-vtoroy-mirovoy-voyny # ixzz2gTNlYfJ5

    Iran is like a cycle of water in nature. hi
    1. vahatak
      vahatak 1 October 2013 19: 15 New
      0
      Actually, the Americans took a leading role in Iran only after the coup of 1952, and before that all British oil was at British Petroleum with all the consequences. And immediately after the war, Soviet troops remained in Iran, who left only 1947 or 1948.
  19. vahatak
    vahatak 1 October 2013 19: 18 New
    -1
    Every day, Americans are faced with even greater difficulties to impose new sanctions against Iran. In the West, the economy is not in the best condition, and trade with Iran is beneficial to many. Iran’s neighbors are also not enthusiastic about the sanctions. That is why Americans have to be softer. Economic interests all the same.
  20. nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 19: 40 New
    -3
    Quote: aksakal
    Quote: xetai9977
    the total discontent of the population with mullocracy, which interfere with everything from the economy to sports,

    - Are Iranians dissatisfied with "mullocracy"? Yes, I partly confirm that I’m dissatisfied, especially dissatisfied especially with young Iranians, whose testosterone regularly fills molars. In Kazakhstan, they study a lot, regularly roll their bodies to our girls, our girls are already having fun trolling them on the topic “YOU CAN’T! You’ll be fine, I’ll stay with you, but I will inform your mullahs about our affair!” And really, this joke scares them. Are they cruelly executed there? And for such a prank? Be that as it may - they may be unhappy with this, as you put it, mullocracy, but in reality it benefits both Iran and the very young Iranians - they aren’t so spoiled, they don’t have such a filthy low-minded, contemptuous and consumeristic attitude to girls, only from the point of view “if she could blow in the oral way with the elements of beating and extinguishing cigarettes on her body!”, like our guys, and Iranian girls have no so-called behavior "gulls". So the Iranians there are unhappy - let them put their discontent away, let them look at us and look, let them continue to live in the conditions of "mullocracy, because the alternative to this very mullocracy is the so-called" secular-liberal racism "in which we live - EVEN WORSE !!! MUCH WORSE !!!!!

    Quote: xetai9977
    corruption and poverty. Villages in Iran - this is a must see! Shacks, poverty and total futility
    - Have you read the subject carefully? Sanctions, mister good, sanctions. If even a tenth of what was applied to Iran is applied to your country, you will have a famine, and in Iran only a bad economic situation. Do not judge down here, presenting as if Iran with its "mullococracy" is poorly governed - the fault is EXCLUSIVELY US!
    Back in the 90s, when there were no such sanctions yet, I dragged Iranian wallpapers and cool ceramic tiles from Mashhad to Kazakhstan, next to which is not exactly the products of your country - Russian products looked very pale, and Mashhad himself surprised me with his industrial development. Now there is devastation - the magical power of sanctions.
    Putin, remove sanctions unilaterally! The author of the subject is absolutely right.

    You (Kazakhs) are definitely sickened by your "famine." Carry paper and tile. Surprise Iranian industry, but you have something to be surprised at - you turned yours into nothing right after gaining statehood. I still have a living memory of the military factory workshop, the walls and floors are marble. State reception from Kiev - "There is no metro for you - a penny will climb into the seam, disassemble everything!" (They fought with dust, as I understood then). And then the Kazakhs create a joint venture with the Turks and bring to the assembly three wallets of the most primitive push-button phones. And the apotheosis is a huge padlock on rusty hinges on the aluminum doors of the case. Do you want an address?
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 1 October 2013 20: 16 New
      0
      Quote: nikcris
      You (Kazakhs) are definitely sick of your "famine"
      - Nobody fucked you with a "famine." Somewhere here, I blamed someone for this?

      Quote: nikcris
      their turned into nothing immediately after gaining statehood.
      - Well, I mentioned this without you in the context of Kazakh criticism of the North Koreans, who at least know something. I didn’t ask you for help, Kazakhs know their sores even without yours, thank you, you can leave your opinion to yourself. And by the way, you can also pick up that slop plant. If it were indecent, they would find application in the market. Slop Ulbinka, Karmet, Tsvetmet and others found application, and this would be found. Even Plant them. Kirova works and AZTM (Alamta Heavy Machine Building Plant) works. And since the castle hung on the doors of that plant - such a plant means, and if he died, then there is a way for him.

      Quote: nikcris
      And now the Kazakhs create a joint venture with the Turks and bring to the assembly three wallets of the most primitive push-button phones
      - Well, in those years, the Russians did not know how. Only disk phones, and then in the Baltic States WEF issued laughing With the departure of the Baltic states, even disk telephones have ceased to be produced - but it is much more attractive to make assessments to Turkish telephones laughing I know that enterprise, there are not so much push-button "primitive" telephones produced, but internal PBXs that call Vesnet. And the Russians at that time didn’t release such products, but what kind of assessments are - wow, well you! laughing
      Do not worry about our plants - just what we worry about is enough.
  21. nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 19: 47 New
    0
    Quote: vahatak
    Actually, the Americans took a leading role in Iran only after the coup of 1952, and before that all British oil was at British Petroleum with all the consequences. And immediately after the war, Soviet troops remained in Iran, who left only 1947 or 1948.

    Persia behaved in relations with Russia and its satellites not far-sighted (partly not adequately), for which she paid a part of sovereignty. The right of Russia to send its troops to Northern Iran theoretically remains to this day
  22. nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 19: 58 New
    +1
    "- in this case, both Kazakh and Azerbaijani resemble the two who were deceived by an evil wizard. Earlier, both Kazakh and Azerbaijani lived poorly, but were able to do a lot of things. Especially Azerbaijani. I remind you - the world's first COMPACT (not desktop, but already small, the size of a sewing foot machine) the computer released (!) Baku, it was called that Nairi-K machine. "

    The incomprehensible Kazakh genius belay
    Nairi is the fruit of the ARMENIAN SPILL. NEVER desktop - I didn’t occupy a frail kitchen. If anything, I made holes on it in toilet rolls as a student.
    I goof off your knowledge. In addition to the rotten famine, you don’t remember anything, you don’t know.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 1 October 2013 20: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: nikcris
      Nairi is the fruit of the ARMENIAN SPILL. NEVER desktop - I didn’t occupy a frail kitchen. If anything, I made holes on it in toilet rolls as a student.
      - As for the Armenian product, I agree, I wanted to give a compliment to Soviet-era Azerbaijan, it didn’t. It means that initially they were not able to do anything since the Soviet times, but they have already learned how to judge the Iranians for “terrible backwardness, extremely low standard of living”. About
      Quote: nikcris
      NEVER desktop
      - you would have learned to read first. Especially for you -

      Quote: aksakal
      COMPACT (not desktop, but already small, the size of a sewing foot machine) computer released
      - read it? Comprehended? Do you understand Russian? And he occupied no kitchen, but was the size as described, or a little larger, with a small desk. As for the size of the kitchen, you are confused with the EU 1500. This is from excessive emotions in you. Take it easy, drink some water. That and you look, stop fucking.
      1. alone
        alone 1 October 2013 22: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: aksakal
        As for the Armenian product - I agree, I would like to compliment the Soviet-era Azerbaijan, it did not work. It means that initially they were not able to do anything since the Soviet times, but they have already learned how to judge the Iranians for “terrible backwardness, extremely low standard of living”. About


        and you are sure that Azerbaijanis were not able to do anything? Now now after independence, look at the state of the economy of "non-craftsmen" and "skilled"
  23. nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 20: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: aksakal
    Quote: nikcris
    You (Kazakhs) are definitely sick of your "famine"
    - Nobody fucked you with a "famine." Somewhere here, I blamed someone for this?

    Quote: nikcris
    their turned into nothing immediately after gaining statehood.
    - Well, I mentioned this without you in the context of Kazakh criticism of the North Koreans, who at least know something. I didn’t ask you for help, Kazakhs know their sores even without yours, thank you, you can leave your opinion to yourself. And by the way, you can also pick up that slop plant. If it were indecent, they would find application in the market. Slop Ulbinka, Karmet, Tsvetmet and others found application, and this would be found. Even Plant them. Kirova works and AZTM (Alamta Heavy Machine Building Plant) works. And since the castle hung on the doors of that plant - such a plant means, and if he died, then there is a way for him.

    Quote: nikcris
    And now the Kazakhs create a joint venture with the Turks and bring to the assembly three wallets of the most primitive push-button phones
    - Well, in those years, the Russians did not know how. Only disk phones, and then in the Baltic States WEF issued laughing With the departure of the Baltic states, even disk telephones have ceased to be produced - but it is much more attractive to make assessments to Turkish telephones laughing I know that enterprise, there are not so much push-button "primitive" telephones produced, but internal PBXs that call Vesnet. And the Russians at that time didn’t release such products, but what kind of assessments are - wow, well you! laughing
    Do not worry about our plants - just what we worry about is enough.

    I'm not worried. Want more detailed?
    In the "marble" workshop a couple of months screwed screws to Turkish phones. In the case, wired from top to bottom with metal (I’m a builder and I don’t know what for smile ) metal was cut off for six months - for scrap. A case with unique platforms (estimate - half a ton of reinforced concrete floats with a gap of a couple of mm) was simply unpacked. Instrument-making plant, marine subjects. The stump is clear that KZ is superfluous. This is NOT TELEPHONES, b.
    Yes! KaG there with the "Azerbaijani" Nairi? wink We put minus for our own knock-knock?
  24. nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 20: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: aksakal
    Quote: nikcris
    Nairi is the fruit of the ARMENIAN SPILL. NEVER desktop - I didn’t occupy a frail kitchen. If anything, I made holes on it in toilet rolls as a student.
    - As for the Armenian product, I agree, I wanted to give a compliment to Soviet-era Azerbaijan, it didn’t. It means that initially they were not able to do anything since the Soviet times, but they have already learned how to judge the Iranians for “terrible backwardness, extremely low standard of living”. About
    Quote: nikcris
    NEVER desktop
    - you would have learned to read first. Especially for you -

    Quote: aksakal
    COMPACT (not desktop, but already small, the size of a sewing foot machine) computer released
    - read it? Comprehended? Do you understand Russian? And he occupied no kitchen, but was the size as described, or a little larger, with a small desk. As for the size of the kitchen, you are confused with the EU 1500. This is from excessive emotions in you. Take it easy, drink some water. That and you look, stop fucking.

    I can drink koumiss with a good person and arak, but, to your regret, Nairi-K TWO years was my stone around my neck ... TaG, ShtO - request
    Learn materiel, at the end of the end
  25. nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 20: 50 New
    +1
    "I wanted to give a compliment to Soviet-era Azerbaijan, it didn’t."

    I wanted to be smart - not a ride ...
    What would be a ride, it was necessary to recall the air conditioners, oil fields and pomegranate juice
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 1 October 2013 21: 17 New
      -1
      Quote: nikcris
      What would be a ride, it was necessary to recall the air conditioners, oil fields and pomegranate juice
      - Yes, it’s easy, I could even recall the Azerbaijani, or rather, the American scientist of Azerbaijani origin Lotfi Zadeh, the author of the theory of fuzzy logics, which Azerbaijanis are very proud of. I could even remember the same Landau, for he - for it was the Baku Polytechnic (by the way, still very much appreciated by the Turks) that became the discoverer of this scientist.
      In principle, it’s already a lot, yes, I admit, I was too lazy to remember, wrote Nairi, well, you got here, smart guy, and what? As for the BK Conders, it’s already boring, it would be quite commonplace.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 2 October 2013 09: 34 New
        0
        Quote: aksakal
        In principle - it’s already a lot, yes, I admit, I was too lazy to remember

        Quote: aksakal
        In principle - it’s already a lot, yes, I admit, I was too lazy to remember

        Institute of Physics, NAS of Azerbaijan

        Main Achievements
        The study of kinetic and optical properties, as well as structural transformations in a wide range of semiconductor materials - A4, A3B5, A5-B5, metal chalcogenides, the creation of new galvanomagnetic, thermomagnetic and tensometric converters.
        The dependence of the energy of electrons, light and heavy holes in spherical quantum measures of semiconductors and semi-metals A3B5 and A2B6 on the size of a quantum dot is established.
        A technology has been developed for the preparation of crystallization-resistant samples of CGSs of the Se-As, Se-Te system with improved photoelectric parameters.
        The memory effects in a TlInS2 layered ferroelectric semiconductor are studied.
        New thermionic galvanomagnetic effects were discovered, the physical basis for creating radiation-resistant photodetectors with a thermoelectric cooler in the spectral region of 0,45-14 microns, high-performance thermo and magnetothermoelectric materials and coolers, a new plasma-optical ion emission system, a new non-destructive method for the complete diagnostics of an optoelectronic device were found, fabricated and tested their prototypes.
        An acousto-optic panoran receiver, an acousto-optic matched filter, and acoustic delay lines are developed.
        A set of works was carried out to identify the cumulative increase in overvoltage arising in non-linear high voltage electric networks.
        Dielectric materials with high electrophysical characteristics are obtained by using electrical effects.
        On the basis of piezoelectric, photoresistive, photovoltaic and electroluminescent composites, converters for various purposes have been developed: acoustic, opto-acoustic, photoelectric and acoustoelectronic.
        The Institute has 853 employees, including 46 Doctors of Sciences.
        Institute of Radiation Problems of NAS of Azerbaijan
        Achievements [edit | edit source]

        Studies of radiation-stimulating processes in solids:
        It was revealed that the centers of radiation-heterogeneous decomposition of water on the surface of zirconium are charged states
        The regularities of the formation and recombination of luminescence centers in layered GaS single crystals under the influence of gamma radiation are established.
        The relaxor ferroelectric state of the TIInS2 crystal was obtained under the influence of gamma radiation (D> 300 Mrad)
        Obtaining and research of energy converters based on polymer composites, nanocomposites and compounds of the AIVBIV type. A special composite system was revealed in which the dependence of the luminescence intensity that occurs at the absorbed dose of γ-radiation of 0,5-1,5 Mrad and Tγ = 165 K, on ​​the radiation dose is linear.
        The physicochemical regularities of the processes of liquefaction and gasification of solid organic waste using renewable sources of energy and radiation are revealed.
        For the first time, crude oil was prepared for refining in an oil field using a solar power plant.
        It was revealed for the first time that the processes of radiolytic transformation of air (nitrogen dioxide) are stimulated by delta electrons emitted from dispersed iron.
        Study of the radioecological and physicochemical impact of energy-fuel complexes on the environment
    2. alone
      alone 1 October 2013 22: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: nikcris
      I wanted to be smart - not a ride ...
      What would be a ride, it was necessary to recall the air conditioners, oil fields and pomegranate juice

      good
  26. nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 20: 58 New
    0
    Quote: aksakal
    Quote: nikcris
    Nairi is the fruit of the ARMENIAN SPILL. NEVER desktop - I didn’t occupy a frail kitchen. If anything, I made holes on it in toilet rolls as a student.
    - As for the Armenian product, I agree, I wanted to give a compliment to Soviet-era Azerbaijan, it didn’t. It means that initially they were not able to do anything since the Soviet times, but they have already learned how to judge the Iranians for “terrible backwardness, extremely low standard of living”. About
    Quote: nikcris
    NEVER desktop
    - you would have learned to read first. Especially for you -

    Quote: aksakal
    COMPACT (not desktop, but already small, the size of a sewing foot machine) computer released
    - read it? Comprehended? Do you understand Russian? And he occupied no kitchen, but was the size as described, or a little larger, with a small desk. As for the size of the kitchen, you are confused with the EU 1500. This is from excessive emotions in you. Take it easy, drink some water. That and you look, stop fucking.

    http://www.rus-edu.bg/informatika/soft/computer/virtmuseum/museum/russian/nairi-
    k.htm
    Is this garbage the size of a SMALL writing desk? (And you started with a sewing machine - hee hee)
    Drink something stronger than water.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 1 October 2013 21: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: nikcris
      Is this garbage the size of a SMALL writing desk? (And you started with a sewing machine - hee hee)
      Drink something stronger than water.
      - The link does not open.
      I affirm - with a desk! Because I learned to program on it as part of the institute. First, we painted the flowcharts, then the program, and then sat down and printed for it. And although it was a long time ago, more than 30 years ago - I remember for sure that he was with a desk! Do not even argue.
  27. nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 21: 15 New
    0
    Quote: aksakal
    Quote: nikcris
    Is this garbage the size of a SMALL writing desk? (And you started with a sewing machine - hee hee)
    Drink something stronger than water.
    - The link does not open.
    I affirm - with a desk! Because I learned to program on it as part of the institute. First, we painted the flowcharts, then the program, and then sat down and printed for it. And although it was a long time ago, more than 30 years ago - I remember for sure that he was with a desk! Do not even argue.

    Do you have Google? Drive Nairi-K and get a photo. According to the then norms, she needed a room of 30 sq.m. And about more than 30 years - he smiled, because this garbage is outdated during the design. Here I’ll try to insert a sewing machine-desk. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CF0QFjAF&url
    =http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rus-edu.bg%2Finformatika%2Fsoft%2Fcomputer%2Fvirtmuseum%2Fmuse
    um%2Frussian%2Fnairi-k.htm&ei=gQJLUteEJImF4ASx9IDYAg&usg=AFQjCNHkgpFLHH_Mqorte7_
    ANL3IOqCQ-A & sig2 = eYvq1DsYNGHklawdAxZpqw & bvm = bv.53371865, d.bGE & cad = rjt
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 1 October 2013 21: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: nikcris
      And about more than 30 years - he smiled, because this garbage is outdated during the design.

      - so what? The university used this obsolete, in your expression, machine to train students. And he was not going to let us go to the EU-1500, this unit of the universities themselves used in their work. And the desktop “Sparks” and “Elbrus” appeared in our university significantly later, after graduation. Do you doubt it?
    2. aksakal
      aksakal 1 October 2013 21: 32 New
      0
      Quote: nikcris
      https://www.google.ru/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CF0QFjAF&url

      =http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rus-edu.bg%2Finformatika%2Fsoft%2Fcomputer%2Fvirtmuseum%2Fmuse

      um%2Frussian%2Fnairi-k.htm&ei=gQJLUteEJImF4ASx9IDYAg&usg=AFQjCNHkgpFLHH_Mqorte7_

      ANL3IOqCQ-A & sig2 = eYvq1DsYNGHklawdAxZpqw & bvm = bv.53371865, d.bGE & cad = rjt

      - do not open. Come on, they clarified with Nairi, I don’t care much that I made a mistake only a couple of hundred kilometers and ended up in Azerbaijan instead of Armenia, I used GLONASS instead of GPS, it's okay, it happens, I was too lazy to remember about Azerbaijan, although I know something about it (see. another post), can you essentially say something for Hetai in my argument with Hetai? Or for me? And do not go nuts because of a minor error.
  28. nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 21: 39 New
    0
    Quote: aksakal
    Quote: nikcris
    And about more than 30 years - he smiled, because this garbage is outdated during the design.

    - so what? The university used this obsolete, in your expression, machine to train students. And he was not going to let us go to the EU-1500, this unit of the universities themselves used in their work. And the desktop “Sparks” and “Elbrus” appeared in our university significantly later, after graduation. Do you doubt it?

    No doubt. Only we seem to be returning to the beginning of the dialogue fellow
    But I don’t understand yet - why are you blaming the working BCs, and you remember the stupid Nairi (you remembered it clearly in the memoirs of happy student years) licking your lips. At the same time, the BC still sticks out in some windows, and even no firewood (it was wooden outside) was left from Nairi.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 1 October 2013 23: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: nikcris
      But I don’t understand yet - why are you blaming the working BCs, and you remember the stupid Nairi (you remembered it clearly in the memoirs of happy student years) licking your lips. At the same time, the BC is still sticking out in some windows, and even no firewood (it was wooden outside) from Nairi
      - I explained - I know very well about BKashki, about the fact that they do a lot of good things in Sumgait - I know it seemed banal, and I NEEDED what Azerbaijan, Soviet Russia, would have advanced to advanced countries. Well, it’s not my fault that, in principle, Azerbaijan did not and does not have a good example. Well, I listed something else - but this is quite a bit. For justified and harsh criticism of Iran - obviously not enough. There is no reason. Called, take the log out of your eye. Is it unclear? To overshadow the current, only oil (and alas, no more, just in case, Kazakhstan is no better) Azerbaijan, whose representatives also criticize present Iran, which, incidentally, is no less oil, but at the same time trying to master a bunch of advanced technologies . With what success is another question, the main thing is TRYING! But Azerbaijan, like Kazakhstan, is not even trying! But much to criticize, and when you indicate it to them: right there

      Quote: lonely
      and you are sure that Azerbaijanis were not able to do anything? Now now after independence, look at the state of the economy of "non-craftsmen" and "skilled"
      .
      Once again - what is Iran capable of doing? Well, at least he’s trying ... And what about the critically minded Azerbaijan? BC air conditioners are good air conditioners, but even for their time they were not advanced. Well Conder and Conder.
      1. alone
        alone 1 October 2013 23: 35 New
        +2
        you don’t have enough information about the current state of Azerbaijan. I advise you to somehow stay with us and see everything with your own eyes. I’ll probably change your mind.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 2 October 2013 07: 44 New
          -2
          Quote: lonely
          you don’t have enough information about the current state of Azerbaijan. I advise you to somehow stay with us and see everything with your own eyes. I’ll probably change your mind.

          “Perhaps. Mandatory.” If anything, I'm not about life. There are no questions for Azerbaijan, everything is worthy. But the level of scientific = technical development of the country is no less important. Otherwise - Saudi Arabia or Qatar, cabbage ramparts, but we can’t do anything.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 2 October 2013 09: 35 New
            0
            Quote: aksakal
            But the level of scientific = technical development of the country is no less important

            Academician Yu. G. Mamedaliev Institute of Petrochemical Processes
            Recent scientific advances [edit | edit source]

            Oil research of promising offshore fields in Azerbaijan, the scientific basis for the technology of their rational processing to produce promising jet and diesel fuels, gasoline and lubricating oils has been created.
            Development of a technology for producing oxygenated gasoline additives based on low boiling fractions of catalytic cracking, coking and monohydric alcohols using zeolite-containing catalysts.
            Development and implementation in Sumgayit of a production technology for the production of ethyl tert-butyl ether based on bioethanol and C4 fraction from the pyrolysis process.
            Creation of new modifications of complex catalysts based on aluminum metal and haloalkyls, using which a complex scheme for processing liquid pyrolysis products was developed and introduced into the industry at the Sumgait Synthetic Rubber Plant, providing naphthalene, toluene-xylene fraction, benzene, ethylbenzene.
            Creation of new homogeneous catalysts based on compounds of zirconium, nickel, cobalt, molybdenum and other transition metals for the oxidation, oligomerization and polymerization of hydrocarbons.
            Development of methods for producing new hybridized reactive oligomers, new types of acrylate monomers, bactericides, systemic herbicides, aromatic substances and other low-tonnage products.
            Development and introduction into production of technology for producing reagents and chemicals (inhibitors, demulsifiers, foaming agents, solvents, etc.) used in the oil and oil refining industries.
            Development of technology for deasphalting oil and its heavy residues by supercritical extraction using carbon dioxide.
            Development of new thermotropic ion-liquid extractants for the purification of petroleum fractions from aromatic compounds.
            Currently, the institute employs 527 employees, of which 219 are scientific, including 42 doctors of sciences (3 of them are academicians and 5 corresponding members of ANAS) and 110 candidates of science.
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 2 October 2013 09: 38 New
        0
        Quote: aksakal
        . Well, it’s not my fault that, in principle, Azerbaijan did not and does not have a good example

        National Academy of Sciences of Azerbaijan
        ANAS has 5 branches:
        Department of Physical, Mathematical and Technical Sciences
        Institute of Physics
        Institute of Cybernetics named after ac. A. Huseynova
        Institute of Mathematics and Mechanics
        Shemakha Astrophysical Observatory named after N. Tusi
        Institute of Radiation Problems
        Institute of Information Technology
        Department of Chemical Sciences
        Academician Yu. G. Mamedaliev Institute of Petrochemical Processes
        Academician M.F. Nagiyev Institute of Chemical Problems
        Institute of Additive Chemistry named after Academician A. M. Kuliev
        Institute of Polymer Materials
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  29. nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 21: 52 New
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    Quote: aksakal
    Quote: nikcris
    https://www.google.ru/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CF0QFjAF&url


    =http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rus-edu.bg%2Finformatika%2Fsoft%2Fcomputer%2Fvirtmuseum%2Fmuse


    um%2Frussian%2Fnairi-k.htm&ei=gQJLUteEJImF4ASx9IDYAg&usg=AFQjCNHkgpFLHH_Mqorte7_


    ANL3IOqCQ-A & sig2 = eYvq1DsYNGHklawdAxZpqw & bvm = bv.53371865, d.bGE & cad = rjt

    - do not open. Come on, they clarified with Nairi, I don’t care much that I made a mistake only a couple of hundred kilometers and ended up in Azerbaijan instead of Armenia, I used GLONASS instead of GPS, it's okay, it happens, I was too lazy to remember about Azerbaijan, although I know something about it (see. another post), can you essentially say something for Hetai in my argument with Hetai? Or for me? And do not go nuts because of a minor error.

    With Hetai, I am for you.
    Well, petty I sometimes, nothing can be done. I see myself that it’s entering, but I can’t do anything sad
    1. alone
      alone 1 October 2013 22: 40 New
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      no wonder, Nikolai! in the forum, too many are not friends with history, with geography.

      one writes that after Syria falls, the Americans will appear at the borders of Iran, even the unaware that Iran and Syria do not have common borders. But the fact that the Americans have long been close to Iran is somehow unknown to him. And another recently wrote that, Syria is a border country with the ussr. do not be surprised, some here write in order to write.

      it turns out in the world there are peoples who have nothing))) marvel at the mental abilities of some)
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 1 October 2013 22: 43 New
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        Lonely, sorry, I didn’t understand, peoples who have nothing. What is it like?
        1. alone
          alone 1 October 2013 22: 52 New
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          yes, read the commentary of aksakal from Kazakhstan. everything will be understood. it turns out we Azerbaijanis do not know how to do anything)))
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 1 October 2013 23: 50 New
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            Quote: lonely
            yes, read the commentary of aksakal from Kazakhstan. everything will be understood. it turns out we Azerbaijanis do not know how to do anything)))
            - I recall the fuss in brief.
            Quote: xetai9977
            The realities of today's Iran are the total discontent of the population with mullocracy, which interfere with everything from the economy to sports, inflation, extremely mediocre work with national minorities (which make up almost 45% of the population), corruption and poverty.
            - At the same time, Iran is mastering, in any case, trying to master nuclear, missile, unmanned and other very complex technologies. How successful is another question. Azerbaijan, having a bunch of oil spills, is not even going to approach these things, although it would not hurt, the only thing I heard about Azerbaijan in terms of technological development was somehow developed a large-caliber sniper rifle with very mediocre and outstanding characteristics, that's everything. Well, I still see here in Kazakhstan goods from Azerbaijan using Turkish technologies and licenses, very, very mediocre. But cheap. This is all true. What insults? But then to criticize Iran - yes, we can do it. Is there any reason?
            For the sake of justice, I mentioned Kazakhstan. Everything is exactly the same. The Metallist plant in Uralsk developed a large-caliber machine gun, but there is no way to compete with the same tar workers and Izhevsk people. We also have a lot of oil cabbage, a lot of ambitions like “we will drive the Russians out of Baikonur, we will launch rockets ourselves!”, To messages (false, as it turns out) from the DPRK about the execution of a personal lover by Kim Jong Un from the grenade launcher, Kazakhs post: “America would have bombed this stupid, worthless country with stupid worthless leaders!”, while forgetting that the “stupid worthless country” is actually with minimal outside help, and even more often with strong sabotage and interference by itself, flies into space rockets EUNHA. And so, for laughs - Izhevsk residents did not master the production of a RELIABLE screw store for AKM, and the North Koreans developed it and use it to the full. "Wacky worthless country"! laughing And for laughs - South Korea was not able to master the unfortunate diesel engine for her tank. But in the world, South Korea is a super-duper, and North Korea is a "stupid worthless power!" laughing laughing
            I am not for the DPRK at all and not for Iran, I am for the pluralism of regimes, and for criticism when you have reason and moral right to criticize.
  30. nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 22: 57 New
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    Quote: Arabist
    Lonely, sorry, I didn’t understand, peoples who have nothing. What is it like?

    May I answer? In the understanding of some, a people without an oil rig is doomed to nothing. At the same time, the overwhelming majority of these peoples live better than those who have it. Such a strangeness. Baku in terms of oil in the USSR by the 80s was not even in third place. But the Baku oil industry workers come first. Well, i.e. the head is always in price, etc.
  31. nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 23: 39 New
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    Quote: aksakal
    Quote: nikcris
    But I don’t understand yet - why are you blaming the working BCs, and you remember the stupid Nairi (you remembered it clearly in the memoirs of happy student years) licking your lips. At the same time, the BC is still sticking out in some windows, and even no firewood (it was wooden outside) from Nairi
    - I explained - I know very well about BKashki, about the fact that they do a lot of good things in Sumgait - I know it seemed banal, and I NEEDED what Azerbaijan, Soviet Russia, would have advanced to advanced countries. Well, it’s not my fault that, in principle, Azerbaijan did not and does not have a good example. Well, I listed something else - but this is quite a bit. For justified and harsh criticism of Iran - obviously not enough. There is no reason. Called, take the log out of your eye. Is it unclear? To overshadow the current, only oil (and alas, no more, just in case, Kazakhstan is no better) Azerbaijan, whose representatives also criticize present Iran, which, incidentally, is no less oil, but at the same time trying to master a bunch of advanced technologies . With what success is another question, the main thing is TRYING! But Azerbaijan, like Kazakhstan, is not even trying! But much to criticize, and when you indicate it to them: right there

    Quote: lonely
    and you are sure that Azerbaijanis were not able to do anything? Now now after independence, look at the state of the economy of "non-craftsmen" and "skilled"
    .
    Once again - what is Iran capable of doing? Well, at least he’s trying ... And what about the critically minded Azerbaijan? BC air conditioners are good air conditioners, but even for their time they were not advanced. Well Conder and Conder.

    Azerbaijan is buying up weapons in Russia at an inconceivable pace. It produces something. So - there is money! Russian markets are filled with Azerbaijani fruit and vegetables. Does anyone not like this? I like. Maybe there are some problems in Moscow, but we do not have them in the outback. Azerbaijanis never cause rejection - farmers. Anticipating - organized crime does not bother me - on occasion they will also be killed.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 2 October 2013 00: 02 New
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      Quote: nikcris
      Azerbaijan is buying up weapons in Russia at an inconceivable pace. It produces something. So - there is money! Russian markets are filled with Azerbaijani fruit and vegetables. Does anyone not like this? I like. Maybe there are some problems in Moscow, but we do not have them in the outback. Azerbaijanis never cause rejection - farmers. Anticipating - organized crime does not bother me - on occasion they will also be killed.
      - Did I say something against Azerbaijan? If Azerbaijan would have been uninteresting to me, would I have known that BC Conders were produced in this country exactly? Would I know that the great Lotfi Zade and Landau were born in this country? And would I know that Landau’s talent in the Baku Polytechnic was able not only not to ruin, but also developed and carefully transferred to Leningrad? But I know all this. And I listen to the songs of Polad Bul-Bul Ogli according to my mood. I just stood up for Iran. Criticism in terms of living standards is especially unpleasant and unfair. He got harsh, but it is necessary. And the standard of living gives little, and it is not an exhaustive characteristic of the country.
  32. nikcris
    nikcris 2 October 2013 00: 51 New
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    Quote: aksakal
    Quote: nikcris
    Azerbaijan is buying up weapons in Russia at an inconceivable pace. It produces something. So - there is money! Russian markets are filled with Azerbaijani fruit and vegetables. Does anyone not like this? I like. Maybe there are some problems in Moscow, but we do not have them in the outback. Azerbaijanis never cause rejection - farmers. Anticipating - organized crime does not bother me - on occasion they will also be killed.
    - Did I say something against Azerbaijan? If Azerbaijan would have been uninteresting to me, would I have known that BC Conders were produced in this country exactly? Would I know that the great Lotfi Zade and Landau were born in this country? And would I know that Landau’s talent in the Baku Polytechnic was able not only not to ruin, but also developed and carefully transferred to Leningrad? But I know all this. And I listen to the songs of Polad Bul-Bul Ogli according to my mood. I just stood up for Iran. Criticism in terms of living standards is especially unpleasant and unfair. He got harsh, but it is necessary. And the standard of living gives little, and it is not an exhaustive characteristic of the country.

    Come on you find fault. In any village you can find great ancestors. By the village, I do not mean something vaguely dense. Just the terrain. Both the Kerensky fellow countryman of Lenin, and the Panfilov’s division are from Kazakhstan, and the contribution of Mongolia to the Great Patriotic War is invaluable, and Chinese volunteers saved Kim Il Sung with their blood. And the Vietnamese with their frail bodies covered the Soviet Li Si Qing from Merikos bullets.
    We had a great country that you and I pissed off. They didn’t even slip through for jeans with chewing gum - for no reason ...
  33. nikcris
    nikcris 2 October 2013 01: 25 New
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    [quote = aksakal] [quote = lonely] yes read the comment of aksakal from Kazakhstan. everything will be understood. It turns out we Azerbaijanis do not know how to do anything))) [/ quote] - I will remind the fuss in brief.
    [quote = xetai9977] The Metallist plant in Uralsk developed a large-caliber machine gun, but there is no way to compete with the same tar and Izhevsk people. . [/ quote]
    I also built this plant fellow
    And he cannot compete not because of not skill, but because of the division of labor - his task was never to create final products
  34. nikcris
    nikcris 2 October 2013 19: 48 New
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    [quote = nikcris] [quote = aksakal] [quote = lonely] yes read the comment of aksakal from Kazakhstan. everything will be understood. It turns out we Azerbaijanis do not know how to do anything))) [/ quote] - I will remind the fuss in brief.
    [quote = xetai9977] The Metallist plant in Uralsk developed a large-caliber machine gun, but there is no way to compete with the same tar and Izhevsk people. . [/ quote]
    I also built this plant fellow
    And he cannot compete not because of not skill, but because of the division of labor - his task was never to create final products [/ quote]
    gun barrels were his task. They rumbled all my childhood - can I impeach to create? I’m even ready to give all portions of grebes at my own expense, if they use them