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Do not repeat mistakes made in 1917

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In an interview with the newspaper "Neva time" we talked about modern politics, finance and stories.





“Recently, politicians and experts are increasingly saying that the world economy has come out of the crisis and is on the road to recovery. Is it true? Let's remember the story: the orchestra played on Titanic until the sinking ship disappeared under water Therefore, you should not believe the shaman spells of official economists and the Western media, but your own eyes.


Just look at the basic things. Remember how the US dollar was 15 – 20 years ago? It was a real lump, not subject to neither time nor inflation! But today you do not buy for a hundred dollars what you could buy for the same amount ten years ago. And why? We are told that prices have jumped up. But the real reason is that the dollar has fallen in price, and it has fallen substantially. After all, if you recalculate the value of real estate in gold, it turns out that in the "gold equivalent" of an apartment in St. Petersburg and Moscow even cheaper ...


Speaking about the state of the world economy, experts like to juggle with complex words. However, the essence is actually very simple: the financial elite of the West, which creates money from the air, printing unsecured dollars and euros, has exceeded its limits. Today, there is a tremendous amount of money in the world, but there are no more benefits. As a result, money starts to depreciate rapidly. But those who inflate these “soap bubbles” cannot allow the process to gain momentum further. Otherwise, their method of ruling over the planet by creating money from the air will be destroyed at the root.


How to be in this situation? The financial authorities of the West are trying with all their might to restrain the increase in the money supply so that the money remains “expensive”. But, on the other hand, in this case they will have to significantly reduce the consumption of the population. After all, today almost all the money is spent on maintaining a high standard of living in the countries of the “golden billion” and creating more and more new consumer mirages. Of course, there are military and other items of expenditure, but in general, the structure looks like this. The result is a vicious circle - to reduce the amount of money, you need to moderate the consumer habits of the population. But, as soon as this happens, the veil of the people that “various” progressive media have “put on” is removed from the people. It is very difficult to explain to people that all is well and then it will only be better when their income decreases and the standard of living falls.


A peaceful way out of this impasse is difficult, long and thorny. Therefore, the financial elite of the world is beginning to lean towards another way of getting rid of the current difficulties, to which humanity has already resorted, this is a global war. Several times the ruling circles of the planet solved the problem of unemployment and falling living standards by provoking large-scale hostilities. As a result, the Gordian knot was cut with one blow.


Due to armed conflicts, the number of unemployed was reduced due to combat losses, and the fall in living standards was attributed to the complexities of wartime. In the eyes of ordinary people, the situation looked as if it was not an economic system that contained fundamental flaws, but “objective circumstances” caused a series of disasters.


Today, it seems that after the First and Second World Wars, we are again approaching the line when a global world war is necessary for elite groups that issue the dollar and the euro. Please note that large-scale armed conflicts are being actively provoked in various parts of the world today. The aggravation of the situation around Syria is a vivid example.


However, global conflicts are not organized at the click of a finger for several months. If we recall the middle of the XX century, the hot spots, which then actually merged into the Second World War, flared up at the very beginning of the 1930's. At the beginning of the 1930s, Japan attacked China, and Italy occupied Abyssinia (present-day Ethiopia) around the same time. The Arab Spring, which began in the 2011 year, is also a kind of starting point. Add to this date ten years - and we get 2021 year. Naturally, all forecasts are conditional, but is it possible that by chance the program of re-equipment of the Russian army was calculated just before 2020? And in the speeches of world-class politicians, including President Vladimir Putin, statements about the destabilization of the world situation did not appear to be witty.


Do not repeat mistakes made in 1917


By and large, nothing new in the world is happening today. Consider whether Russia knew such periods in its history, when we had a cloudless blue sky over our heads, and only good neighbors around us? Yes, this has never happened! Our country constantly fought, reflecting aggression after aggression. Russian troops, as a rule, appeared in Europe in response to wars of conquest by various Western states. Of course, armed conflicts with our participation occurred in Asia, but much less often. If the western countries have attacked us from century to century, then the same China, which has always been overcrowded, behaved and behaves not like an example more peacefully. Therefore, I consider all the talk about the “yellow threat” to be nothing more than propaganda aimed at confusing us with Beijing to the delight of the American “partners.”


Today, the main external threat to Russia is the Arab revolutions and the chaos that they inevitably generate. Washington, with the help of Islamic fundamentalism, is destroying states in the Middle East, which our Western friends want to use as a "collective Hitler" to start a global war. Having "unleashed" the Middle East, they plan to bring the fire of a large-scale conflict to the borders of Central Asia, and then throw it into Russia and China. Both we and the Chinese have entire regions inhabited by millions of Muslims. That is why during my recent performance in Kazan, I explained to local residents: the ultimate goal of the process, which is gaining momentum in Libya and Syria, will be not only Chechnya and Dagestan, but also their homelands. This needs to be understood and this cannot be allowed.


My goal is not to sow panic, but to warn people in advance. After all, only a complete understanding of the threats allows you to build an adequate defense. Fortunately, the Russian leadership is aware of these problems. Moscow recently signed an agreement with Tajikistan on the allocation of money to rearm the army. What is this, an act of charity? Not at all! Our behavior is dictated by the awareness that our geopolitical rivals are planning.


The second most important threat to modern Russia is the scenario known as the Orange Revolution. For our main geopolitical opponents, the overthrow of power in this way is always a more convenient and cheaper option than the organization of large-scale armed conflicts. The same February 1917 revolution of the year, organized by external forces in the midst of the First World War, created confusion inside Russia and disoriented the population. Then another coup d'état took place in October, and the goal was achieved: the Civil War threw Russia back, and millions of soldiers' lives of the First World War proved to be a vain victim. All bonuses from this received the British, French and Americans.


Today, something similar happened in Egypt. Yes, it was a country with many internal contradictions, with extreme corruption, an authoritarian regime, but they did not shoot people on the street with machine guns. And now what do we see? For two and a half years in Egypt, the economy has been almost completely destroyed, the political system has been shaken to its limits, and the civil war has actually begun. Of course, this was not done without the intervention of external forces. After all, under Mubarak, the Egyptian military for some reason were afraid to shoot the demonstrators, but now, just two years later, they did it with ease. Because in the 2011 year, Washington strictly forbade them to open fire on the demonstrators, and in 2013, he gave it a go-ahead.


And remember, what euphoria reigned in Egypt after the overthrow of Hosni Mubarak? I talked with some Egyptians, and for the most part they were delighted with the democratization of their political life. But when I explained to them how it would end, they continued to insist on their position: “The bloody dictator is gone - and now we will live so well!” I think they now assess the situation differently. And I really wouldn’t want Russia to step on the “Egyptian rake” or repeat its own mistakes made in the 1917 year.


Central Bank - the Strangler of the Russian Economy


However, it must be understood that wars and “orange” revolutions are viruses introduced from outside, which can be fatal only for a weakened organism. Therefore, the way to avoid death is well known - you need to temper and strengthen your health. And to create a strong and prosperous state, it is necessary to carry out several priority measures.


First, it is necessary to change the law on the Central Bank, subjecting it to the country's leadership. Dear readers will ask: isn’t this department already owned by the Russian state? The answer is no, and here's why. If you open the law "On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation", then read that the Central Bank is "independent." And although the president is proposing his head, it is almost impossible to dismiss him. It can be removed only on the condition that he is ill, that a criminal sentence has been passed on him, that he is violating the laws of the Russian Federation, and in a number of other cases. It is impossible to simply dismiss “for lack of trust,” as it was, for example, with regard to Luzhkov. That is, in fact, the head of the Central Bank is an "unsinkable aircraft carrier."


Unfortunately, the Central Bank does not act in the interests of Russia, but in the interests of a foreign — primarily American — economy. If we again refer to the law on the Central Bank, we can easily find in it a provision that directly forbids it to credit the Russian economy. "Our" Central Bank is not entitled to buy Russian debt, but it has the full right to acquire promissory notes of the United States and a number of other Western countries. Moreover, it keeps the refinancing rate at the level of 8,5 percent, forcing Russian business to take loans in the West, thereby ensuring the demand for dollars. Now answer the question: in whose interests does the Central Bank act?


But that's not all. To understand the true role of the Central Bank as a strangler of the Russian economy, suffice it to say that the Central Bank does not issue rubles in the quantity necessary for the normal functioning of the economy, but in order to buy out the entire volume of currency received from exporters on the stock exchange. And it fundamentally distinguishes it from the US Federal Reserve System (FRS), which stamps out the unsubstantiated green candy wrappers and computer zeroes in the volume that the US budget needs.


We sell our hydrocarbons to foreign markets, we get dollars for them, the Central Bank buys them, replenishes their foreign exchange reserves with them (it is noteworthy that the share of gold in them does not exceed ten percent!). Then on this currency, the Central Bank buys debt obligations of Western countries. That is, dollars and euros returned to their creators. In fact, in such a scheme, dollars and euros are ... permission to issue rubles. We gave Washington or Brussels our natural resources in order to have the right to create a national currency.


If you call a spade a spade, we simply pay tribute to the United States. Our sovereignty is obviously limited, since we don’t have the most important thing - the right to issue our own money in the volume in which this is forced by the needs of our economy. So is it any wonder that it does not grow fast enough? To rectify the situation, we need to change the law on the Central Bank, turning it from a “branch of the Fed” into a state treasury, as it was in tsarist Russia and the USSR before 1990, when we lost our sovereignty because of Gorbachev’s treachery.


The second important step, designed to return true independence to our country, is the nationalization of mineral resources. According to the current Constitution, all oil and gas fields belong to the people. However, because the formulation of the basic law is vague and non-specific. Here is a clear example: in the depths of the oil, perhaps, it can also be considered state, but as soon as it was extracted by company X, then on the surface it automatically becomes private.


What miracles happened to oil during its passage through the well ?! Agree: if the team has made repairs in your apartment, then the room itself does not become the property of the brigade. Similarly, it should happen in the case of oil: the state may well pay to private companies the labor for its production, but black gold itself should not belong to them. Then the state will be able to control its natural resources and dictate the prices of energy carriers within the country, since the whole further cycle of the economy depends on it.


The third urgent measure is accelerated industrialization and modernization of production. Without the first two measures, sovereign emission and control over the price of resources, it is almost impossible to completely re-equip the industry and build new enterprises. We managed to turn Russia into an advanced industrial power in the whole history when, using the contradictions in the Western elite, we agreed with the carriers of advanced technologies. Obviously, it is necessary to develop science and build new plants throughout the country.


But how to convince Western businessmen that it is better to create new enterprises here, and not in the PRC or the USA? The same China achieves success in international competition due to cheap labor - a trump card, which we are deprived of because of historical, mental and climatic features. But if we nationalized the subsoil and took control of energy prices, then all the riches that the Lord God has generously bestowed on us will begin to “work” for the good of Russia, contributing to its rapid industrialization.


About Russian Billion


If we are talking about building new enterprises, then we need to think about who will work for them. Why do we need the most up-to-date technologies if Uzbek and Tajik migrant workers work in factories and plants? I do not think that the Russians will come out for industrialization in this form. So, we need our citizens to work in new enterprises. And for this we need to stimulate the birth rate.


How to do it? First of all, we need to change the information policy. So that on TV they would show not incomprehensible "boy-girls", but pregnant women telling about the happiness of motherhood. The hero of our time should become a resident of Russia, who has given birth to many children, and the family - the main value for the new generation of Russians. Modern propaganda says that the family is not important, and only the new phone model is important. But this is the path to nowhere! Therefore, we must return the family values ​​that are inherent in any people inhabiting Russia.


If we succeed in reviving the ideal of having a large family and raising the birth rate, then in the future we will be able to count on the appearance of the “Russian billion”. This idea may well capture the minds and hearts of people. But it assumes that any decision of the state should be viewed through the prism of its usefulness for improving the demographic situation. In this case, even talk about the abolition of maternity capital, which are led by liberals in the government, will be impossible.


recipes from Nikolai Starikov:


1. Depriving the Central Bank of the Russian Federation of “independence”, transforming this department from the “branch of the Fed” into the state treasury and nationalization of the ruble.


2. Nationalization of Russian subsoil.


3. Construction of new plants and large-scale investments in science.


4. Attracting Western technologies for the purpose of modernization, using Russia's main competitive advantage — cheap raw materials.


5. Family and fertility support. Promoting the idea of ​​"Russian billion".





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  1. aksakal
    aksakal 1 October 2013 15: 44 New
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    Well, recipes from Starikova impress me, although they are not disputed.
    1. Army1
      Army1 1 October 2013 16: 38 New
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      When the Central Bank Nationalize and resources ?????
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 1 October 2013 17: 20 New
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        Quote: Army1
        When the Central Bank Nationalize and resources ?????

        As for the Central Bank, it is impossible to make the Bank of Russia a Bank of Russia - in this case we are talking about transferring the Central Bank from under the control of professional economists (whose main task is to prevent hyperinflation) to the government or president (whose main task is to maintain power).

        As for the nationalization of the resource-extracting and manufacturing industries, the Chief Technical Officer spoke quite clearly on this subject:
        1. MG42
          MG42 1 October 2013 21: 28 New
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          Quote: Yarosvet
          As for the nationalization of the resource-extracting and manufacturing industries, the Chief Technical Officer spoke quite clearly on this subject:

          But why nationalize Rosneft or RAO Gazprom ??, these are state-owned companies, in any case, the state has all the control levers, and the GDP in the figure said everything correctly ..
          Minority shareholders can also be supplanted by additional issue by blurring the block of shares.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 2 October 2013 13: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: MG42
            But why nationalize Rosneft or RAO Gazprom ??, these are state-owned companies, in any case, the state’s control package and all control levers are exact, the GDP in the figure said everything correctly
            In one case, 1/3 of the income (taxes) goes to the treasury, in another 2/3 (taxes and profits).
            From the point of view of the shareholders having the current state of affairs, Vova said everything is correct, from the point of view of filling the budget, Vova said is heresy.

            Minority shareholders can also be supplanted by additional issue by blurring the block of shares.
            You can, but why?
            The bottom line is what the goal is - the welfare of citizens, or the opportunity for a narrow group to prosper through unearned income.
            1. MG42
              MG42 2 October 2013 13: 12 New
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              Quote: Yarosvet
              You can, but why?

              I understand that you have the task of criticizing Putin on all fronts, but you just do not understand from the swamp camp or from the communists? think about it right here ..
              nationalization STATE COMPANIES? complete nonsense stop , she is able to change her OJSC to CJSC, etc. at a meeting of shareholders despite the fact that the state has a controlling stake ..
              Yukos thus changed ownership and ownership, but Yukos was a private company ..
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 2 October 2013 13: 59 New
                +1
                Quote: MG42
                I understand your task of criticizing Putin on all fronts
                Not a task - I write about what I observe, and I criticize him only as a personification of power.

                from the swamp camp or from the communists?
                It is believed closer to the Communists.

                nationalization STATE COMPANIES? complete nonsense
                Is it about the nationalization of non-state assets, about the nationalization of profits - is that more clear? laughing
                1. MG42
                  MG42 2 October 2013 14: 12 New
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                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  Is it about the nationalization of non-state assets, about the nationalization of profits - is that more clear?

                  No, it’s not clear There are other ways besides nationalization, how to move minority shareholders, and maybe it’s not necessary to calculate everything first, as this will reduce the company's capitalization, cause an outflow of investors and a decrease in its stock price on the market. That's clearer? The game is not worth the candle ..
                  GDP said everything right. Gazprom, Rosneft and Transneft should not play experiments with these companies because they are budget-forming for Russia.
                  You propose nonsense and nationalization = this is an element of a planned economy .. then you need to change the system ..
                  With just one word, nationalization, how much the stock price of these companies will decrease, count on the stock exchange no matter what light it sounds in ..
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 2 October 2013 15: 30 New
                    +1
                    Quote: MG42
                    No, it’s not clear, there are other ways besides nationalization how to move minority members
                    AND ESTO times: ACTIONS ARE DETERMINED

                    If the goal is comprehensive well-being and development of the population’s potential, then nationalization, partial or full restoration of the command-planning system and long-term investments in the population and economy cannot be done.
                    If the goal is to maintain the existing status quo and the opportunity for a narrow group to have a holiday of life at the expense of everyone else, then there’s nothing to talk about - in this case, the only task of the state is to prevent rebellion by blurring the true causes of the existing problems, which happens in Russia in recent times.

                    since this will reduce the capitalization of the company, cause an outflow of investors and a decrease in the price of its shares in the market
                    This matters only if the company is non-state and receives part of the profit from the sale of shares, or if it is going to be sold as soon as the one who gives a good price appears.

                    they are budget-forming for Russia
                    Namely, they could have given the budget 2 times more, but in this case the interests of the guys with whom Vova is bound will suffer.

                    With just one word, nationalization, how much the stock price of these companies will decrease, count on the stock exchange no matter what light it sounds in ..
                    In this case, private traders will suffer, and the state will win - but the current state has other goals than the well-being of citizens.
                    1. MG42
                      MG42 2 October 2013 18: 08 New
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                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      AND ONCE AGAIN: ACTIONS ARE DETERMINED


                      Here you are fixated on GDP .. wassat

                      Well nationalized <yukos> what has changed? Khodorkovsky is sitting, he will not recline soon, apparently, according to rumors from Russia, he sponsored the Communist Party and Mr. Sue, for which he fell into disgrace ..
                      Nationalization within the framework of this system will not change much, because I repeat, in a market economy, the state is not the most efficient owner ..
                      Then we need to switch to such a model as in neighboring Belarus, but there are also inflationary processes there ..
                      photo with Lebedev >>
                      1. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 2 October 2013 19: 39 New
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                        Quote: MG42
                        Well nationalized <yukos> what has changed?
                        Was he nationalized? laughing
                        He was torn apart.

                        Nationalization within the framework of this system will not change much, because I repeat, in a market economy, the state is not the most efficient owner
                        Any conversation about inefficiency comes down to a conversation about money, which in turn rests on the social network - the presence of the social component (timely and fully sick and leave, kindergartens, camps, rest homes, etc.) just makes the state like "ineffective."
                        The rest of the state is always 20 percent more efficient than the private trader - a market economy has nothing to do with it.

                        Then we must switch to such a model as in neighboring Belarus
                        As an option, but this is exactly what they do not want, since this means a reduction in the profits of the nomenclature.

                        but there are inflation processes
                        Naturally, the model of the world economy itself is inflationary.
                      2. MG42
                        MG42 2 October 2013 20: 28 New
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                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        The rest of the state is always 20 percent more efficient than the private trader - a market economy has nothing to do with it.

                        Well, yes, yes, everything around the collective farm; everything around me .. fellow
                        Punk rock song clip filmed during the USSR >>

                        This is if the state. property from a planned economy .. well, it works in China, so there, under the strict guidance of the Communist Party, and relying on labor discipline, labor productivity, harsh anti-corruption laws and cheap slave. force ..
                        P.S. Comparing GDP and Yanukovych is difficult .. wassat everything is relative
                        In Russia, now who is the real alternative to GDP as president of GDP?
                      3. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 2 October 2013 20: 41 New
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                        Quote: MG42
                        Well, yes, well, yes, everything is collective farm. Everything is mine.
                        In the 10th year, in this way, they decided on the corruption market equal to the budget, that is - what has changed? And the amount has changed (increased at times) and liability (at times decreased).

                        This is if the state. property from a planned economy
                        You saw somewhere NOT-planned economy? Then where does the concept of "lost profits" come from in this economy?
                        Any economy is planned, but whether it is a market economy or a command one determines the goal set (good for the majority or for the minority).

                        In Russia, now who is the real alternative to GDP as president of GDP?
                        Zyuganov is at least no worse, and the Communist Party’s program is much better.
                      4. MG42
                        MG42 2 October 2013 20: 54 New
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                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        Zyuganov at least not worse

                        as far as I follow the events in Russia, Zyuganov steadily loses the election, from year to year his electorate is only thinning for age reasons ..
                        You can’t be a stable loser; you need to change the <horses>. This is how we Symonenko from the Communist Party of Ukraine is also a stable loser .. like Zhirinovsky and Yavlinsky were still in your prize-winners for the presidency ....

                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        Any economy is planned, but is it a market economy or a command economy?

                        Something you have gotten confused about whether there is a market, but there is a planned one .. In practice, a planned and market economy can exist together and act as a whole - a mixed economy = China ..
                      5. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 2 October 2013 21: 17 New
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                        Quote: MG42
                        as far as I follow the events in Russia, Zyuganov is steadily losing the election, from year to year his electorate is only thinning for age reasons
                        Rather, for the reasons for the loss, which is largely due to counter-propaganda and an interesting vote count.

                        The point, again, is not in the personality of the president, but in the program.

                        Something you have gotten confused about whether there is a market, but there is a planned one .. In practice, a planned and market economy can exist together and act as a whole - a mixed economy = China ..
                        In practice, any economy is mixed (to one degree or another), and with the definitions, everything is fine with me: there is a market, there are command-planned. But the plan is present in any of them - in one case on a company / enterprise scale, in another case on a countrywide scale.
                        The division into market and planned was a substitution of concepts.
                      6. MG42
                        MG42 2 October 2013 22: 09 New
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                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        Rather, for the reasons for the loss, which is largely due to counter-propaganda and an interesting vote count.

                        those. you declare that Zyuganov was once again cheated with votes <thrown into the thimbles> and he would have won the election without falsification?
                        The admin resource was and will be the same Russia, do not forget, when the USSR there was one candidate in the bulletin and this is also an administrative resource ..
                        <It is important not how they vote, but how they count. > You know who said that ..
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        The division into market and planned was a substitution of concepts.

                        Well, here again, it’s not so, in how in planned competition is the real between producers through socialist competition? five-year plans, everything is different order, consumer, subcontractors, control, pricing ..
                        in the market demand dictates the offer, admin. the resource applies only to protected articles, etc.
                        Perhaps enough = we walk in circles in this discussion ..
                        Zyuganov really is not a competitor to GDP at this stage, a new leader among the left may appear ..
                      7. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 3 October 2013 12: 04 New
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                        Quote: MG42
                        those. you declare that Zyuganov was once again cheated with votes <thrown into the thimbles> and he would have won the election without falsification?
                        It may very well be, although I also do not exclude the possibility that he plays a predetermined role.
                        As for not the presidential elections, but the party ones, there is good reason to believe that the Communist Party is really circumventing the EP.

                        The admin resource was and will be the same Russia, do not forget that during the USSR there was one candidate in the bulletin and this is also an administrative resource
                        This is not an administrative resource, but a farce: the power of the Soviets, which were supposed to engage in goal-setting, was originally assumed. Alas, it did not work out.

                        in planned competition is real between producers through social competition? five-year plans, everything is different order, consumer, allies, control, pricing
                        And this is how you will regulate - an example is the production of arms in the USSR, where there was quite a competition between manufacturers of aircraft for example in the implementation of the task.

                        in the market demand dictates the offer, admin. the resource applies only to protected articles, etc.
                        Demand dictates supply only for a very narrow list of goods and services, mainly supply dictates demand through advertising.
                        The market economy works only in theory, since the psychological and cultural components are not taken into account - in real life, without regulation by the state, the market instantly slides into monopoly (hence, in the market standard - the USA - state regulation of the minimum and maximum prices for a number of goods and services) .

                        Zyuganov really is not a competitor to GDP at this stage, a new leader among the left may appear ..
                        Political competition should be reduced to competition of political programs, not politicians - until people understand this, most will not have to live well.
  • old man54
    old man54 1 October 2013 21: 08 New
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    Quote: aksakal
    Well, recipes from Starikova impress me, although they are not disputed.

    Starikov is the same St. Petersburg political prostitute, like E. Fedorov, D. A. Medvedev, A. Sobchak and many other representatives of this glorious city on the Neva in the modern political establishment of Russia. 17 year, he is afraid laughing Yes, he is already looming around the bend! angry
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER 2 October 2013 11: 04 New
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      Quote: old man54
      On the 17th year he is afraid Yes, he is already looming around the bend!

      At the expense of the 17th year in the article, he showed an inaccurate knowledge of history. The February revolution was bourgeois, and indeed supported by the West, and the October revolution was an anti-February, anti-bourgeois, worker-peasant revolution. And the West did everything in its power to stop it, even by intervention.
      Otherwise, I agree with the article.
      1. jasper
        jasper 2 October 2013 18: 51 New
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        and the October revolution was an anti-February, anti-bourgeois, worker-peasant revolution. And the West did everything in its power to stop it, even by intervention.
        Otherwise, I agree with the article.

        Yeah, Vova blank and Labe Bronstein were "Russian workers" laughing
    2. a52333
      a52333 3 October 2013 17: 23 New
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      Starikov is the same St. Petersburg political prosti-tut-ka as E. Fedorov,
      A good one, I suppose, Zyuganov? lol
  • a52333
    a52333 1 October 2013 21: 18 New
    +3
    Good evening. Not undeniable. And yet we expect something else from him, hot and sensational. He showed the root causes of the first and second world, the meanness of British intelligence and politics, our dependence and mending. I want a new and hot! But he is not yet. Let's cut the situevina, in which we are now through the nostrils. He only once again raises the topic, the hottest at the moment - the hidden occupation of the Russian Federation. Much hotter. Where do you want to argue, dear Beloborody?
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 1 October 2013 21: 55 New
    +4
    That is why, during my recent speech in Kazan, I explained to local residents: the ultimate goal of the process, which is gaining momentum in Libya and Syria, will be not only Chechnya and Dagestan, but also their native lands. This must be understood and this must not be allowed.
    God grant that the "authorities" and the snickering "elites" would "get through", although if they have a bridgehead abroad for a long time, they will have to disentangle ordinary people as always.
  • Uhe
    Uhe 1 October 2013 15: 48 New
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    Putin lackeys are afraid of 2017;) But only their words again diverge from deeds: in words they call for the socialist beauty, but in reality they cut and destroy production, drive people out and lose their jobs.
    1. smile
      smile 1 October 2013 16: 07 New
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      Uhe
      Yes, no, the revolution of 2017 is another project that their curators threw in the swamps - of course the fifth column headed by the swamps is quite dangerous, basically, that with the efforts of their propaganda we are full of all-embracers, but no one is afraid of it, it's their dreams. Similar exact data from the swamp spread almost monthly — and their reliability — like the reliability of the end of the world according to the Mayan calendar. :))) Your lamentations about people driven out into the street in the light of the fact that production is currently reviving and there are positive changes in employment (against the background of unemployment in the USA and the European Union higher than ours) look like cynical lies with the purpose of justifying their provocative howls .... :)))

      And according to Starikov’s article, he’s a good man, but sometimes he is brought in, what’s worth only is that he correctly noticed that the end of the Republic of Ingushetia came in February, but did not notice that by October 17 the civil war was already in full swing, the state was decomposed and only the October Revolution saved the country ..... the whole trouble is that we don’t have Bolsheviks — the only constructive opposition — the Communist Party — was degraded thanks to Zyuga. Therefore, the best alternative to Pu-on the horizon is not visible.
      Further, the arguments about the Central Bank are cool ... especially in the part that he is forbidden to buy government debt ... I never believe that Starikov does not understand what to buy their Central Bank, the same thing. what to borrow on my own and pay interest for it ... This is populism and PR as pure as a tear of a baby, water ....
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 1 October 2013 16: 32 New
        +5
        Quote: smile
        by October 17, the civil war was already in full swing, the state was decomposing, and only the October Revolution saved the country.

        Starikov is very one-sidedly looking at the Revolution, everything is simple with him, the West has prepared and conducted an action. The roots of the Revolution, in my opinion, go very deeply, in those days when serfdom was born, when one Christian sold another to slavery. We can say that this was the beginning of the end of the Russian Empire.
        1. smile
          smile 1 October 2013 16: 55 New
          +2
          Uncle
          About one-sidedness, I agree, I can unconditionally agree with only one of his books, Something like "Who brought Hitler to power," the rest, in different ways ... That. that the roots of the revolution are also true, but I doubt that the point was that serfdom was once ... if you look at what European Christians did to each other and to other peoples, then Orthodox begin to look almost holy ... And nothing happened to these non-Orthodox Christians ... because, I think that’s exactly what you are mistaken in ...
        2. jasper
          jasper 1 October 2013 17: 08 New
          +3
          and what at once not acceptance of Christianity? or doctrine of Russophobe-Marx Jewish think Russian?
        3. Alexei
          Alexei 1 October 2013 17: 27 New
          +5
          Quote: Uncle
          The roots of the Revolution, in my opinion, go very deeply, in those days when serfdom was born, when one Christian sold another to slavery.

          And as for me, the roots of the revolution come from a progressive intelligentsia that wants not to work, but a kind of "social justice", which does not exist even by virtue of human imperfection.
      2. Andrey57
        Andrey57 1 October 2013 17: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: smile
        Further, cool discussions about the Central Bank ... especially in the part that he is forbidden to buy government debt ...

        Dear, this is not a matter of faith, you can read it in the Law on the Central Bank, which, by the way, was imposed under the strict control of mattress “advisers”. Yes, and October 1917 of the year is just the 2-th series after February, shot in the same scenario from London and Washington. Confirmation of this - all documents relating to the activities of the British government and special services in relation to the Russian Empire at the beginning of the 20 century are still classified, although any other secret materials can only be such 50 years. The same thing is in mattress.
        1. smile
          smile 1 October 2013 17: 43 New
          -1
          Andrey57
          I respect you too.
          And what does faith have to do with it? I know about who developed the legislation and I do not consider it ideal. but it’s precisely the ban on buying up government debt obligations by the Central Bank — I’m sure- I mentioned the absurdity of Starikov’s populist statement on this topic — government debt obligations are designed to raise funds, and not to transfer money from one state pocket to another. I don’t like how we manage the stub and the reserve fund (where we place it, what we spend on it, although not all the actions in power here can be considered incorrect), but this is exactly what Starikov’s statement is. which is the cornerstone of his ideology, populism is complete and does not stand up to criticism.
          By the year 17, this is all clear — they tried to control everyone, including going to the Bolsheviks — the focus failed with them. And mainly archives are secret about how they destabilized the country, how they tried to seize it, how they threw the king and that they were going to do this before the start of WWI.
      3. old man54
        old man54 1 October 2013 21: 14 New
        +2
        Quote: smile
        and their reliability, as the reliability of the end of the world according to the Mayan calendar. :)

        with all due respect to you, smile, don’t do so about the Mayan calendar! But you personally did not study it and did not deal with the “decryption” (interpretation) of the data indicated in it? All of your knowledge is based on remarks in the Western and domestic media on the topic, right? Then what are you blaming the ancient Mayans for, while you yourself haven’t seen or studied anything in your eyes, but listened to the sheer ordering and deletantism of the Western world ?! request No offense only! hi
        1. smile
          smile 1 October 2013 21: 55 New
          0
          old man54
          If the ancient Mayans were offended, I apologize. May I be wrong. And I did not scold them, but scolded those who predicted the end of the world on the basis of their calendar. The calendar itself, which is generally a masterpiece, has nothing to do with it. That's because of whom I’m not going to scandal -so this is because of Maya. Yes, and I'm not a specialist in this business.

          What insults? I am absolutely unprepossessing and not forgotten. You and I, long ago, got along, but this does not stop me from treating you with respect ... and just fine. :)))
          1. old man54
            old man54 1 October 2013 22: 50 New
            +2
            Quote: smile
            And I did not scold them, but scolded those who predicted the end of the world on the basis of their calendar. The calendar itself, which is generally a masterpiece, has nothing to do with it.

            As far as I know about the Mayan prophecies, Vladimir, their calendar said something like this ... somewhere around the turn of the year 2000 from R.Kh. (they certainly had a different chronology, their own) the time will come "X", when one way or another ends the period, which in the East is called Kali-yuga. At the end of this period, the Creator will decide what to do with people on Earth - or give them more time (either they have corrected or give some more time in the hope that they will be corrected) or a "project" called "intelligent life on planet Earth" will be closed by him once and for all !!! That's what Maya actually wrote about and therefore did not begin to make the calendar further, because of the uncertainty. But here the Western leaders of the “pseudo-learned” world presented everything to the planet’s people exactly as it was then heard in the media, although it was just a boundary of uncertainty! Actually, the prophet Jessus (Yeshua) Christ of Nazareth also spoke to his disciples (apostles) that he perhaps will return to earth and if if he returns, this will mean the end of all life on her, since he would then be sent by God to judge people here for their evil deeds and sins. And it was said by them, Jissus, namely to the main people of Israel, i.e. to the Eveites, and for the most part this concerned them! Those. this will be the Apocalypse itself, after which this excellent planet Earth will become as lifeless as many others located next to it!
            Quote: smile
            I am absolutely unprepossessing and not forgotten. You and I, long ago, got along, but this does not stop me from treating you with respect

            Hmm, I don’t remember at all that we would be “digging” with a swami !? request And this is me seriously, usually those who deceptively cause me negative and irritation, I remember for a long time, and if I don’t remember, it was just a dispute, at least for me! wink Yes, I am sometimes harsh in arguments, but this does not mean that I have a strong dislike of the appanent in the dispute. hi
            1. smile
              smile 1 October 2013 23: 10 New
              +1
              old man54
              Thanks, intelligibly. But I thought that according to the Hinduism of Kali Yuga, the Era of darkness came after the battle on the Kuru-Kurukshetra field and should last FIG knows how many thousands of years, and the fight between the Pandavas and Kauravas happened supposedly only a few thousand years ago ... but okay, it’s likely that I'm confusing ...
              And about a fight:))) - you there attacked me a little soon after registration ... but energetically, like that stern guy on the profile picture:))) ... I remembered you because of the profile picture - on the one hand, "old man" and, on the other hand, a Nestarikovka avatar :))) I tried to understand the age ... :))) then I look, “my” :))) and minor differences do not count.
              1. old man54
                old man54 1 October 2013 23: 37 New
                +2
                Quote: smile
                But I thought that according to the Hinduism of Kali Yuga, the Era of darkness came after the battle on the Kuru-Kurukshetra field and should last FIG knows how many thousands of years, and the fight between the Pandavas and Kauravas allegedly happened only a few thousand years ago.

                Of course, I did not read all the books of Eastern beliefs, there are so many that can not be counted, but nevertheless I have some information. wink In addition, open information from Hindu and Buddhist sources in modern literature is not 100% credible, because the theory of a “deaf telephone" and a handful of sand that was being eaten from one to another has not been canceled yet. Various eastern beliefs feature dates from 5 tlet to 4 tlet (the beginning of this dark period). It is connected, the period, of Kali Yuga, with the fact that once upon a time one really God-chosen people betrayed Him, God, and flattered by the promises of a certain character - Satan, by the promises of dominion over all people on Earth and exorbitant wealth, they began to serve him Satan, serve. Hindus and Buddhists have their own, theirs, the interpretation of these events and their names, but in fact there is nothing to miss in the details! Since then, well, not immediately, but soon, the state of Israel disintegrated and ceased to coexist, the Jews scattered around the world and like rootless dogs threw themselves around the Earth. Alexander the Great’s campaign is a continuation of this big topic and it’s not without reason that “scientists! Still puzzle, understanding why he went there, what he wanted, why he burned and destroyed some cities on his way, but he didn’t touch some!” The Prophet Jesus was the last warning to the Jews, but they didn’t understand this, to this day! What we see today as various political processes on Earth, wars, and obvious attempts to dominate one country over all others and over the whole world people, there is a continuation of that ancient the process that the Jews intended even more than 5 tolet ago.
                they did not come to their senses!
                I know that Kali Yuga ended in 1997 from R.Kh. How do I know "without comment"! hi
                you there slightly attacked me soon after registration ... but energetically, like that stern guy on the profile picture :)

                I just sharply expressed my opinion, most likely. I apologize, Vladimir! drinks Well, samurai ... I am very pietitet and reverently treat this ancient culture, by the way now it is very generally interpreted! For me, the true spirit of the samurai is the standard of the spirit of war, and I’m still going to fight in this life, moreover, for the present and selflessly and selflessly! Forgive me for not being able to moderate my warlike ardor then, Vladimir! I, too, have long been reading your thoughts with pleasure and sympathy! good Especially like in the article about Poland I really liked you! fellow
                1. smile
                  smile 2 October 2013 00: 38 New
                  0
                  old man54
                  Oh, thanks. And for the fact that they were not too lazy to write so much and for that they remembered me for Poland .... :))) And I really beg you, do not apologize, you are not to blame for anything, but we are not Japanese, after all.
                  An interesting version, I admit, among Hindus, Jews are not mentioned at all ... and I do not consider them guilty of all troubles, at least shoot :))) Well, she’s on a Jewish topic, she’s tired of me.
                  But I really wish you that you still could not fight ... dubious is happiness. It is better to stay alive and healthy, and may your children have a living father, and not a beautiful order in a red box and photograph ...
      4. DPN
        DPN 2 October 2013 01: 06 New
        +1
        Put a minus, an old man + for the second half of the pack. Why are you obsessed with Zyuganov and Putin, one saved the party, the other turned the massacre in Chechnya into a guerrilla war, and thanks for that. We had a teetotaler Gorbachev who ruined the country, for which Medvedev awarded him with a hero. The next one drank the entire population and reduced it by 10 million, starting a war in the Caucasus against its people. Now two lawyers made a gift to the people, gave away housing that was built in Soviet times and belonged to the same people free of charge and began to put pressure on taxes and tariffs, for which paid before 10% of the salary. In seeing the cult of money above all, as a result: they kill for housing, and relatives fight and sue, that is, as they used to say, MAN HUMAN BECAME A WOLF. So these tasks were fulfilled by the first president of Russia, the EBN and his assistant Chubais. And they ate into the constitution to introduce an article of betrayal and the collapse of the country, there would be less people wishing for the presidency. The actor REAGAN, managing the USA, managed to greatly weaken the USSR, so why the same OLD MAN, cannot be an alternative to these two Lawyers, it will not be worse.
        1. smile
          smile 2 October 2013 01: 35 New
          0
          DPN
          Well, set and set, God bless him, with a minus :)))
          To confess your confused comment is even ashamed to kick ... This is not a comment, but a cry of the soul, and obviously a sincere cry .... that's just, like any cry of the soul, it is very chaotic. You put everything in a heap ... okay - I won’t put me one more minus for this :)))
          And I don’t like Starikov, for short, for two reasons, he clearly declares that the Bolsheviks are enemy mercenaries. And he has not yet become president, he is already lying too much and uses absolutely populist methods of propaganda to a much greater extent. than Pu - just declaring that he will take and build factories. just take it and nationalize everything .... not the slightest calculation. not the slightest justification. nothing at all, naked populism .... I beg you, read all the comments on the thread. put me a few more minuses and read below, there is quite reasonable and calm accusation of Comrade Starikov in the most banal populism, and not refuted, ....:))) Yeah, I’ll ask you the same question that I asked several on this thread ( Of course, no one answered :))))
          My quote is:
          The old man considers the cornerstone of his populist ranting about the Central Bank a thought - that the Central Bank’s ban on buying government debt is very bad ... really.
          Justify his thought - Why should the Central Bank buy them, thereby transferring state money from one state pocket to another, while they are called to attract non-state funds? The meaning of government debt is completely lost if it starts buying its own debt obligations on its own. But Starikov doesn’t give a damn about the main populist statement to make. Plus, this ban does not allow the Central Bank to play on the courses of these securities, having the ability to influence them, that is, the ban prevents speculation .... What's good in Starikov’s populist proposal.
          The author writes very well. The book is about that. how the United States and Britain were preparing Hitler, in general a masterpiece ..... but he is a vivid confirmation of what politics does with a person, he did not become president. and almost all of his statements are a mixture of lies, populism and demagogy ... and this is only the beginning, then what? Pu never allowed himself such a thing NEVER .... yes he is also a politician and is obliged to tryndet ... but since he never tryndel .... that's the whole difference. You are welcome. answer specifically to my specific question, justify your opinion. :)))
    2. military
      military 1 October 2013 16: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Uhe
      but in fact they cut and destroy production

      Medvedev in his latest article openly stated the ultimate goal - postindustrial economy ... google and look for its differences from the industrial (Soviet) ...
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 1 October 2013 17: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: military
        Medvedev in his latest article openly stated the ultimate goal - postindustrial economy ... google and look for its differences from the industrial (Soviet) ...
      2. old man54
        old man54 1 October 2013 21: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: military
        Medvedev in his latest article openly stated the ultimate goal

        oh you, at the iphone what, clever thoughts appeared in his hydrocyphalic head or what? lol Or again, not him, but someone inspired them with him? And I still voted for this obsoska in the 2008 year !! repeat
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 1 October 2013 21: 20 New
          -1
          Why did they vote?
        2. SAG
          SAG 2 October 2013 01: 57 New
          +2
          ... and what was your choice? laughing or would you prefer a radical turn in the person of Vladimir Volfovich or the CPSU ...
          maybe BOGdanoV (Grand Master of the Great Masonic Lodge of Russia)lol
    3. jasper
      jasper 1 October 2013 17: 07 New
      -6
      and whose abatenka will you be lackey?
      1. a52333
        a52333 1 October 2013 22: 19 New
        -1
        Well, your registration is clearly not in the Russian Federation. I guess. Israel? Manhattan
    4. Ribwort
      Ribwort 1 October 2013 17: 43 New
      +8
      Quote: Uhe
      Putin lackeys are afraid 2017

      Naturally. That's why they are talking nonsense about the fact that we do not need 1917 and the Civil War. It is silent, however, that such a war is IMPOSSIBLE in principle. Who will go to war for such rubbish? They just scatter like cockroaches when they turn on the light in the kitchen in the hostel. If you have time.
      Quote: Uhe
      but in reality they cut and destroy production, drive people out and lose their jobs.

      It is strange if, for example, a thief, having climbed into a strange house, and even in a limited time, began to do cleaning or repair, is not it?
    5. vezunchik
      vezunchik 1 October 2013 21: 06 New
      +4
      if not for the Bolsheviks, Russia would not exist for a long time. Modern history shows just that! Russia is simply being destroyed. There is no industry, there is no agriculture, children are made illiterate, they finish off the Academy of Sciences. And what is the result ???
      One and the same person at different posts, but it’s not the case!
      1. a52333
        a52333 1 October 2013 22: 22 New
        0
        there is no agriculture
        I’m adding an article about this. Questions, questions.
        there is no agriculture
        oh?
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 1 October 2013 22: 25 New
          0
          Yeah, a country that takes 3rd place in the world in food exports certainly does not have agriculture. Comments are meaningless and redundant.
      2. jasper
        jasper 2 October 2013 19: 05 New
        0
        Yeah, but was she? or when, in the Volga region, Russian people were dying of hunger for millions, and the “Soviet” Jewish government, who was robbed of gold from the Russian Church, sent fellow tribesmen to study in Germany, do you think that Russia was free and independent? although yes it was. from Russian people
  • Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 1 October 2013 15: 50 New
    12
    When you read such articles. then the hairs on my head stand on end .... well, how is such a thing possible in our time ... well, in the 90s we were just none headed by EBN. but now ?? !! .... some negative emotions. We are scammed around the world for us for any reason, and we ... you know ... we support their financial system, headed by the Central Bank of Russia. Deputy Fedorov spoke in detail about the fact that part of our gold and foreign exchange reserves went to the West. All this bothers me and I think that you too. how can this be allowed at all ?? .... by the leadership of the country ... okay, the MDA is not far off. but GDP ??? !! ,, ... I don’t understand ... what is it called ?? Betrayal ?? .... Wrecking ??
    1. smile
      smile 1 October 2013 16: 13 New
      +2
      Grigorich 1962
      This is called -author exaggerates. moreover. This is an actively promoted political project. I like many of Starikov’s books, but he has too many far-fetched conclusions and populism — the goal is understandable and understandable — some people want power — and even better ones like swamp ones. But when a politician is lying, it’s unpleasant, but the article in populist statements is too much to trust the conclusions so terrifying you about the Central Bank.
      1. bodriy
        bodriy 1 October 2013 17: 58 New
        +9
        article by article, but isn’t it really so?! 30% of oil production goes to the budget ... and what a difficult time is coming, so whatever they are going to do, feed the oligarchs further or hope that we will switch to crackers ?! that first, and then why do I need this government ?!
        1. smile
          smile 1 October 2013 18: 33 New
          -1
          bodriy
          Good. Your proposal - which of those who ran for and declared presidential ambitions is better. Whose team is better. Moreover, it’s very important. after all, it is these comrades who are yelling about polymers that would in no case be pro..na if they were elected.
      2. timer
        timer 1 October 2013 21: 47 New
        +3
        And here, trust, open your eyes and look around. The remnants of the country's economy are systematically, but surely, bent. No wonder the Dimon rattles about mobility slave. strengths and increasing unemployment. The Central Bank does not work for the country, this is an indisputable fact. The Tolstosum oligarchs monopolized the economy and pump the last juices out of it (by modernization and it doesn’t smell). I won’t list everything, but the emphasis is right in the article!
        1. smile
          smile 1 October 2013 22: 13 New
          0
          timer
          Ildar Raimovich, I don’t have the habit of putting shoes on my eyes ... even more so - I have an inappropriate physiology for this. That is why, in addition to failures and failure, I see quite tangible successes. And the country's development is on the positive side, it is a pity that it is slower than we would like. And with your eyesight, as I understand it, trouble? Because I see the opposite of what you said.
          The fact that Dimon rumbles is not an indicator. he has rattled and will always rattle. All of his findings and thoughtful speeches never cost anything ... except in the rarest cases. when you don’t need to think. And when he shares those that he calls his thoughts .... so that there is no need to refer to him.

          Since you will not list, then answer the question - Starikov considers the cornerstone of his populist ranting about the Central Bank - that the Central Bank’s ban on buying government debt is very bad ... really.
          Justify his thought - Why should the Central Bank buy them, thereby transferring state money from one state pocket to another, while they are called to attract non-state money to the state? Plus, this ban does not allow the Central Bank to play on the courses of these securities, having the ability to influence them, that is, the ban prevents speculation ....
          I beg you, please answer. And so far you have spoken with continuous slogans-let's give specifics. OK?
          1. Ribwort
            Ribwort 2 October 2013 09: 01 New
            +1
            Quote: smile
            The fact that Dimon rumbles is not an indicator. he rattled and will always rattle.

            Horrible! Looks like a threat ...
    2. military
      military 1 October 2013 16: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      ok MDA is not far. but GDP ??? !!

      one not far, the other too far ...
    3. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 1 October 2013 17: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      Deputy Fedorov spoke in detail about the fact that part of our gold and foreign exchange reserves goes to the West

      He told me without details, or, more simply, frankly lied in everything except the fact itself
    4. SAG
      SAG 2 October 2013 02: 11 New
      0
      Believe me, that GDP looks and sees much further ahead than YOU! All in good time, be patient.
      When the dollar collapses (and this is inevitable), you will make all your claims de jure to the independent Central Bank, and not to the leadership of the Russian Federation !!
      And all the consequences of the economic collapse fall on the shoulders of mere mortals, it was and will be so for a very long time ...
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 2 October 2013 12: 41 New
        0
        Quote: SAG
        Believe me, that GDP looks and sees much further ahead than YOU!
        Why should I take anything on faith? laughing

        All in good time, be patient
        Another 13 years to suffer?

        When the dollar collapses
        The dollar will collapse only when it is purposefully collapsed, since the bulk of the savings of states and "elites" are converted into dollars.

        all your claims will be presented to de jure to the independent Central Bank, and not to the leadership of the Russian Federation
        Both de jure and de facto - to the government of the Russian Federation.
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 1 October 2013 15: 51 New
    +4
    I fully support N. Starikov and his air defense.
    The same February Revolution of 1917, organized by external forces in the midst of World War I, created turmoil inside Russia and disoriented the population. Then another coup d'etat took place in October, and the goal was achieved: the Civil War threw Russia back, and millions of soldiers' lives of the First World War were a vain victim. All bonuses from this received the British, French and Americans.

    I’ll add that the goal, as if it had already been achieved, and as if all the bonuses from this should have been given to the British, French, Americans and Japanese, as here is the unexpected victory of non-whites in the Civil, a manifestation of a clear, consistent, strong-willed and firm statesman; squeezing and destroying Trotskyism, Trotskyists, etc., etc ....
    1. jasper
      jasper 1 October 2013 17: 10 New
      -6
      that is, the Trotsky organizer and the real doer of the Revolution, suddenly turned out to be not a friend?
      Lord, how naive are people suffering from Marxism, the brain
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 1 October 2013 20: 17 New
        +3
        Trotsky organizer and real doer of the Revolution

        He had never been the organizer of the Bolshevik revolution, for even before the revolution, he was not really a Bolshevik. Etc.
        Lord, how naive are people suffering from Marxism, the brain

        How ignorant are the naive. hi
        1. old man54
          old man54 1 October 2013 21: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Peaceful military
          He was never the organizer of the Bolshevik revolution, for even before the revolution the Bolsheviks were not really

          Hi Andrey! hi
          Yes, Leiba Trotsky-Bronstein was not a Bolshevik, absolutely, but it was he who primarily prepared the revolution, both February and October, with the money of Jewish Western bankers (Rothschilds in the first place). So comrade "yasenpen" is partially right, Andrey! Lenin either appeared in Petrograd under the heading analysis, or forgot already, about the sealed car, about the hut in the flood, and much more. Talk for a long time, although I know a lot. wink
          1. Peaceful military
            Peaceful military 1 October 2013 22: 19 New
            -2
            Leiba Trotsky-Bronstein was not a Bolshevik, absolutely, but it was he who mainly prepared the revolution for both February and October

            Dear namesake!
            Well, in no way did Trotsky & Co prepare the October Revolution, and ALREADY HAVE NO ATTITUDE FOR FEBRUARY. hi
            1. Peaceful military
              Peaceful military 2 October 2013 12: 58 New
              0
              Some ignoramuses are minus. laughing
              HEY, LEARN NOTHING TO SPEND TIME ON THE BADGES, IT'S BETTER TO READ THE HISTORY OF RUSSIA.hi
  • j iz sibiri
    j iz sibiri 1 October 2013 15: 54 New
    +7
    without war, no one will return this to us
    1. smile
      smile 1 October 2013 18: 42 New
      -3
      j iz sibir
      Are you hungry for war? Good. Questions: in your opinion, who needs to start hostilities? Where to start them? Who should organize those who took up the machine? Where do you get weapons from? Whom you will begin to kill in the first place, with the exception of those who, according to the oath, will stop you, these, of course, will be your first victims. Who will you kill if you suddenly win?
      Please answer - maybe in the process of answering you can think a little.
      1. j iz sibiri
        j iz sibiri 1 October 2013 19: 33 New
        +3
        respected
        money and power in this world no one just did not give anyone

        and as for the rest, I’m not tuned to you how I can develop events, I can’t tell you
        1. old man54
          old man54 1 October 2013 21: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: j iz sibiri
          money and power in this world no one just did not give anyone

          your golden words !! "+" !! good
      2. Ribwort
        Ribwort 2 October 2013 09: 03 New
        0
        Quote: smile
        ... who according to the oath will stop you ...

        Have we already taken the oath of allegiance to the government and the oligarchs? belay
  • Alex66
    Alex66 1 October 2013 15: 55 New
    17
    6. Medvedev to resign.
    7. Serdyukov, Vasiliev, Skrynnik, Chubais ... on the bunk.
    8. Gorbachev and Yeltsin called what they are.
    9. Free education and medicine for citizens of the country.
    1. jasper
      jasper 1 October 2013 17: 12 New
      -12
      Hooray! what a pity that those who know how to manage the state already work as taxi drivers and hairdressers laughing By the way, when they overthrew the Tsar, and then the evil. but the legitimate Provisional Government of the Socialist-Revolutionary Socialists, the same probably "knew how to control the state," only the result was the Jewish occupation of Russia
      as indeed in 1991, when they overthrew the morbid Marxism, with its slogans and poverty
    2. Ribwort
      Ribwort 1 October 2013 17: 46 New
      -2
      Quote: Alex66
      6. Medvedev to resign.
      7. Serdyukov, Vasiliev, Skrynnik, Chubais ... on the bunk.

      SO WHAT??? Putin will pick up the same ones. Team, you know ... recourse
    3. bodriy
      bodriy 1 October 2013 18: 00 New
      -3
      alex66 This is our way !!! I support a friend!
    4. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 1 October 2013 20: 24 New
      +2
      6. Medvedev to resign.
      7. Serdyukov, Vasiliev, Skrynnik, Chubais ... on the bunk.
      8. Gorbachev and Yeltsin called what they are.
      9. Free education and medicine for citizens of the country.

      Dear Alexander!
      I understand your emotions and respect your opinion, but, in my opinion, everything is much more complicated, both in terms of the situation and in terms of getting out of it. And what you have expressed, though painful, but no more than a populist slogan. soldier
      1. Alex66
        Alex66 2 October 2013 08: 21 New
        +1
        Andrei, suggest other options, but I don’t think that you are dear to Medvedev, that you are against free education and medicine, maybe you think Gorbachev and Yeltsin are the saviors of Russia, or maybe you think Vasilyeva bought a flat for her salary? But Chubais, he is for what you dear?
  • rennim
    rennim 1 October 2013 15: 56 New
    +9
    Dear author ... We all know this for a long time. You tell Putin and Medvedev about this. They can hear it. Although hardly ... They most likely work for the same as our Central Bank.
  • bogdan
    bogdan 1 October 2013 15: 58 New
    +2
    Therefore, I consider all the talk about the "yellow threat" to be nothing more than propaganda aimed at quarreling us and Beijing to the joy of the American "partners."

    That's exactly said.
    1. matross
      matross 1 October 2013 17: 39 New
      +2
      The Yellow Threat is real. Only not for us, but for the USA. And not military, but economic. As one of the recipes for “treatment,” Americans will inflate hysteria and provoke Russia and China into mutual conflicts. Ideally, for them - a full-blown war ppm Russia and China with the involvement of the countries of Central Asia and the Middle East. The United States, and possibly Britain, in this scenario will act as our allies, provide assistance with Lend-Lease-type supplies and enter the war directly only at the final stage as winners. Other European countries, with the exception of m. France and, very unlikely, Germany, will not directly participate in the war, due to the weakness of the armed forces and remoteness of the theater of operations.
  • Heccrbq .2
    Heccrbq .2 1 October 2013 15: 59 New
    +1
    Well, well, such an article on this site, I shake the paw of the author with all my heart, but I do not need to raise Starikov as an infallible absolute, he is a controversial character, if you dig a little deeper!
  • erased
    erased 1 October 2013 16: 07 New
    +3
    Well, sho here to say ... the author is right. Only they will not be allowed to do anything proposed. Why? A reference to Medvedev with his statements about the migration of workers, to the laws of the Central Bank and to the Kremlin.
    It is a pity, but there is neither a new Lenin nor Stalin. Only ... well, you know.
  • Djozz
    Djozz 1 October 2013 16: 14 New
    +2
    Our friend living in the USA should come now, I’ll talk if I tell you something interesting (under torture). With a compliment!
  • Bigriver
    Bigriver 1 October 2013 16: 24 New
    0
    recipes from Nikolai Starikov:
    1. Depriving the Central Bank of the Russian Federation of “independence”, transforming this department from the “branch of the Fed” into the state treasury and nationalization of the ruble.
    2. Nationalization of Russian subsoil.
    3. Construction of new plants and large-scale investments in science.
    4. Attracting Western technologies for the purpose of modernization, using Russia's main competitive advantage — cheap raw materials.
    5. Family and fertility support. Promoting the idea of ​​"Russian billion".


    Starikov impressed. But, damn it, often on such heights .., it starts up in blah blah blah.
    On the first and second question - I will not say anything.
    The third.
    The construction of which factories producing which goods and products that will be competitive in which market?
    What is meant by investing in science? In which? Fundamental, applied? Investing - is it to give more funding to ALL scientific institutions? laughing Or just the chosen and promising?

    Fourth.
    And who in the west is ready to share their technologies with us? Are they the ones who have competed with themselves from oak to produce?
    And where is comrade Did Starikov find cheap raw materials in our country? And what does he mean by him?
    1. a52333
      a52333 1 October 2013 22: 38 New
      +1
      Good evening., Vladimir.
      Starikov impressed
      Support.
      + To you. But only wishes. Strategically correct, I do not argue. But it’s easier, sitting on the rubble with a bag of sEMAS, advise where we need to, than to suggest how. And here is a “ball-shaped” field for speculation (a seated place). It’s easy - to take a gun and divide.
      blah blah blah
      . But put Starikov (with his good ideas, I do not argue) behind the wheel, and so what? Where and how? You will give a guarantee, one hundred sail in a straight line, and without "storms". Me neither.
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 1 October 2013 22: 41 New
        +1
        I think in reality no one can give such a guarantee.
  • Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 1 October 2013 16: 26 New
    +3
    Under the current Constitution, all oil and gas fields seem to belong to the people. As if - because the wording of the fundamental law is vague and unspecific. Here is a good example: in the depths of the oil, maybe it can also be considered state-owned, but as soon as company X has extracted it, on the surface it automatically becomes private.

    The transfer of property from one owner to another by some action without the knowledge and permission of the first owner is colloquially called theft. Mining by private companies is thus just a legitimate theft.
    An interesting phrase has turned out - a legalized theft.
    1. military
      military 1 October 2013 17: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Michael m
      Under the current Constitution, all oil and gas fields seem to belong to the people.

      according to the Federal Law "On Subsoil", all of the above is by no means public or national property, but belongs to the state ... or the political system of power ...
      1. Very old
        Very old 1 October 2013 17: 45 New
        0
        Under the current Constitution, we are like a people
        1. military
          military 2 October 2013 15: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Old very
          Under the current Constitution, we are like a people

          so after all, according to it, we are, as it were, and we "choose" power ...
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 1 October 2013 17: 39 New
      +5
      Quote: Michael m
      An interesting phrase has turned out - a legalized theft.
  • drop
    drop 1 October 2013 16: 31 New
    +2
    The author's remarks are fair. In the interests of the country, it is necessary to fulfill the obligations of the President on the development of industry. A number of enterprises require highly qualified specialists, and students of technical universities earn extra money anywhere to study, but not in their specialty. This is of course in general, although there are examples where students already know their future workplace from the first year. This is how the Government should orient the training of specialists for high-tech large enterprises and research institutes. ,
  • Lecha57
    Lecha57 1 October 2013 16: 35 New
    0
    It is infinitely stupid to discuss the actions of the Soviet government in Power. The current rulers are so lilac in their imperfections that they themselves can not do anything. - Big minaus!
  • pahom54
    pahom54 1 October 2013 16: 39 New
    +8
    Involuntarily, when you read such articles and start to add and analyze everything to the heap, the thought arises of the Iron Curtain as a panacea ... Well, there will be no chewing gum and oats in Russia with and without a mustache, well, there will be no Pepsi and Cola .... This is so, figuratively ... Think about it, but what use have open borders brought to us since 1991 by and large ??? Yes, no, only harm.
    And about the Central Bank ... Somehow, two or three years ago, I had to read the law on the Central Bank, and then I was struck by those points of the law that N. Starikov points to. But then I thought that I was misunderstanding something ... But it is so, look on the Internet, how many US debt securities were bought by the Central Bank! But rightly so - WE ourselves feed THEIR economy !!!
    Let me peck on the site, but I am behind the iron curtain. Horseradish with them, beautiful wrappers and typewriters, Russia, with its raw material resources, has the strength to revive again, take a club in one hand so that no bastard gets into us, and in the other a different "club", with which we will increase our demography . No WTO, no EU or other unions! Russia has never had friends, and never will be — this is what we must proceed from.
  • optimist
    optimist 1 October 2013 16: 45 New
    +3
    Article minus. The author, a kind of "modernized" "pop Gapon." Do not think that I personally want revolution and blood: it’s just that the current situation cannot be ruled out differently. I hope that on this forum there are no those who believe in repenting Abramovichs, Chubais, Putin, etc.? The author goes over his ears that until February 1917, Russia was quiet and smooth. The country was utterly exhausted by war and rampant theft and corruption. In one, the author is right: we are witnessing a war with Islamic fanatics of various shapes and colors. And many of them live in Russia and have a Russian passport. Just imagine for a minute what will happen if these children come out with the support of the “brothers in faith” that have invaded from outside? Moreover, multiply this by corruption and corruption in the judiciary and law enforcement agencies? All that remains is to pray that it will "explode" earlier than all this scum will rush at us. Given the worsening economic situation of the majority, this could very well happen in the next couple of years. Trying to democratically change the current regime can be just as successful as winning the scam at the forecourt ...
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 1 October 2013 17: 47 New
      +6
      Quote: optimist
      Trying to democratically change the current regime can be just as successful as winning the scam at the forecourt ...
    2. smile
      smile 1 October 2013 17: 58 New
      -3
      optimist
      If radical Islamists invade us, we simply smear them. They and those who will support them - the speakers will be visible, and no one will stand on ceremony with them. Moreover, normal Muslims will help us in this, whose heads will fly first at the hands of the radicals.
      And taking into account the slow improvement of the economic situation, all your pan-polymer slogans and conclusions of a penny broken are not worth it. :)))
      Does the fact that your conclusions are exactly the same as those of anal daredevils, pigs, novodvorsky and other gozmans not bother you? Do you like your like-minded people? Or are these your leaders? Have come, congratulations! :)))
      1. optimist
        optimist 1 October 2013 19: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: smile
        And taking into account the slow improvement of the economic situation, all your pan-polymer slogans and conclusions of a penny broken are not worth it. :)))

        Let’s talk with you about this topic in a year? I promise that I will not gloat !!! laughing
        1. smile
          smile 1 October 2013 19: 18 New
          0
          optimist
          If I live, we’ll definitely talk ... :)))) And I don’t think that gloating is appropriate in such things — this is our common homeland, after all. Or is it worse for you?
          But you talked about the invasion - your scenario - when, where, by what forces?
          Regarding the apocalyptic forecasts of the all-proslovers, so they already ten times predicted us both defaults and revolutions and the collapse of Russia and Putin’s resignation ... at least one admitted that he took the wish for reality? He admitted that he was clearly not screwing at that. what is broadcasting about? Admitted that he was corny lying? NO!!! No one. Never. And you including. And I very much doubt that in this case you will allow your like-minded people to be excluded from the usual practice ... :)))
      2. alone
        alone 1 October 2013 19: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: smile
        If radical Islamists invade us, we simply smear them.

        welcome! radical Islamists have already infiltrated Russia. It is enough to get acquainted with the criminal situation in the North Caucasus.
        1. smile
          smile 1 October 2013 20: 51 New
          -2
          alone
          And you ours with a brush! :)))
          If you pay attention, this is an invasion, not a creeping expansion. Do not find those that are different things?
          The invasion of us was in 99 and in Tajikistan. Then, especially in 99 of the invading areas in the Botlikh and Novolaksky districts, practically no one left — the crumbs fled. At the same time, the nests of Wahhabism in Karamakhi, Chabanmakhi, Tando, etc. were destroyed ..... Yes, and the whole republic was pretty cleaned, like an opening abscess. This is precisely the fate of the intruders, and this is exactly what I had in mind when I said-intruders-we will spread a thin layer ....
          I don’t need to look at the reports, I have looked at them live.
      3. optimist
        optimist 1 October 2013 19: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: optimist
        If radical Islamists invade us, we simply smear them. They and those who will support them - the speakers will be visible, and no one will stand on ceremony with them. Moreover, normal Muslims will help us in this, whose heads will fly first at the hands of the radicals.

        Well ... Well ... In several North Caucasian republics they have been "smeared" for almost 20 years. And something is not yet visible to the end of this "mess". Well, if you are hoping for "normal" Muslims, then you can only laugh at ...
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 1 October 2013 19: 43 New
          0
          Radicals there on an initially religious basis appeared since 1968, and not 20 years ago.
          1. Arabist
            Arabist 1 October 2013 21: 39 New
            0
            Who can refute this? Or besides minus nothing?
    3. Arabist
      Arabist 1 October 2013 20: 28 New
      0
      Ie do you think Putin will not be paradise?
      1. j iz sibiri
        j iz sibiri 1 October 2013 20: 33 New
        +1
        Do you have a paradise with Putin?
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 1 October 2013 20: 36 New
          -3
          I'm happy with Putin.
          1. j iz sibiri
            j iz sibiri 1 October 2013 20: 42 New
            +2
            bad that you only think about yourself
      2. optimist
        optimist 1 October 2013 21: 22 New
        +4
        Quote: Arabist
        Ie do you think Putin will not be paradise?

        When I say “Putin”, I do not mean a specific person (who is the same pawn as a hunchback with fucking), but the whole system of the current government, which is built entirely on the betrayal of Russia's interests.
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 1 October 2013 21: 26 New
          -1
          Well this changes the case. Regarding everyone else except Lavrov and probably Shoigu, oddly enough, I adhere to a few similar views. But I am categorically against the second 1917. Well then, a military coup is better than a riot.
          1. Arabist
            Arabist 1 October 2013 21: 34 New
            -1
            What revolutionaries came running? Bet? I'm ready.
            1. optimist
              optimist 1 October 2013 22: 52 New
              +3
              Quote: Arabist
              What revolutionaries came running? Bet? I'm ready.

              The fact of the matter is that they are not revolutionaries. And not sadists with masochists. And quite normal people, who understand that the gdp with its shobla leads the country to such a ..pop, in comparison with which the events of 1917-1922 seem like childish fuss in the sandbox. No normal person wants to kill and be killed. There is no need for military coups (which did not exist in the history of Russia), or riots. A radical change in the social and political system. Until this happens, further “reforms” will be akin to scooping up water from a holey boat ...
              1. Arabist
                Arabist 1 October 2013 22: 54 New
                +1
                I didn’t know that there were no military coups in Russia. If not a riot and a coup, then what?
                1. Arabist
                  Arabist 1 October 2013 23: 12 New
                  +1
                  Well, if not a riot and a coup, the Martians will probably fly in or someone else.
                2. optimist
                  optimist 1 October 2013 23: 58 New
                  0
                  Quote: Arabist
                  If not a riot and a coup, then what?

                  At least two options. In the best case scenario, 1917. At worst, the collapse of Russia into small uluses and the introduction of international "peacekeeping forces" into it. All other options are derivatives of the first two. Perhaps for some time we will sit on the “raw needle” under the pussy @ w and the theft of gdp with accomplices, but this will not be able to continue, because Russia is not a bottomless barrel, and external “friends” will not give us. In the next 2-3 years, the 3rd world war will flare up for anyone, and we won’t stay away (as in the first two) ...
                  1. Arabist
                    Arabist 2 October 2013 14: 25 New
                    -1
                    You either do not understand what I am writing, or you have your own understanding of rebellion (revolution) which I will never comprehend. Do you seriously think that Putin will lead us to an outcome worse than 1917? Will there be world 3 in 2-3 years? And that everyone who thinks that is normal people? You have a strange notion of normality. Good luck I will not wish. Arrange YOUR revolution. Go rams in a row beat the drums. The skin for them will give the rams themselves.
          2. New Russia
            New Russia 1 October 2013 21: 42 New
            0
            http://www.kp.ru/daily/25811/2790487/ Сергей Шойгу: «Гайдар просил тысячу автоматов для предотвращения погромов»

            Answering journalists' questions on Tuesday, Sergei Shoigu cited an episode when in October 1993 Yegor Gaidar called him at night and asked for 1000 Kalashnikovs to prevent pogroms in the capital.
            1. Arabist
              Arabist 1 October 2013 21: 44 New
              +1
              Riots with the help of machine guns dispersed during the Union, so what?
              1. New Russia
                New Russia 1 October 2013 21: 55 New
                +1
                Riots? :) But weapons weren’t crushed by agents of the West like Yeltsin in the USSR? :)
                1. Arabist
                  Arabist 1 October 2013 22: 00 New
                  0
                  The uprising in Novocherkassk that did not hear?
                  1. New Russia
                    New Russia 1 October 2013 22: 11 New
                    -1
                    I heard, but what does the West’s agents have to do with it, the state still shot unarmed people there?
                    1. Arabist
                      Arabist 1 October 2013 22: 13 New
                      +1
                      And where did I write about agents of the West?
                      1. New Russia
                        New Russia 1 October 2013 22: 21 New
                        0
                        I wrote :) In 1993, they didn’t just suppress the riots, if you do not consider riots the calls of the Council of People’s Deputies to get rid of Yeltsin :)
                    2. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 2 October 2013 12: 45 New
                      0
                      Quote: New Russia
                      I heard, but what does the West’s agents have to do with it, the state still shot unarmed people there?

                      And what did these unarmed people try to storm when they started shooting at them, do not remind?
    4. vladim.gorbunow
      vladim.gorbunow 2 October 2013 07: 05 New
      0
      Namely - pop Gapon. Or maybe Sergey Zubatov, a gendarme colonel.
  • seller trucks
    seller trucks 1 October 2013 16: 46 New
    +5
    Propaganda of the idea of ​​“Russian billion”.


    and to me gentlemen. I liked this phrase than the National Idea
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 1 October 2013 21: 44 New
      0
      Putin: Russia is not for Russians
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jENY-CXGO9w
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 1 October 2013 21: 48 New
        0
        I see you all do not calm down? Or is there simply nothing to do?
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 1 October 2013 21: 53 New
          0
          Don’t be nervous :) In the evenings, I really often have nothing to do, just like you, judging by the fact that you are constantly struggling with revolutionaries here :)
          1. Arabist
            Arabist 1 October 2013 22: 11 New
            +1
            The time is calm now, so I'm sitting. Yes, and I have no small children.
  • individual
    individual 1 October 2013 16: 50 New
    +5
    Our rulers live in a virtual space far from the interests of Russia.
    Seen on Monday, their mother gave birth.
    But we care!
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 1 October 2013 16: 59 New
    +3
    those sitting on the oil pipe do not want to lose it because of the revolution, but after all, for good, no one will get down
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 1 October 2013 17: 04 New
    13
    We are constantly frightened by the 17th year, but they don’t take into account the difference, in the seventeenth nobody knew and didn’t even exactly understand where to go and what to do after the overthrow of the king, after the dispersal of the interim government. many wanted everything to remain as it is, others, in contrast, wanted justice and equality. Some fought for a dream, others for privileges. Society was just like in a fog. Now they are calling for nationalization and socialism, are well aware that the people in the know where they are calling, the people have long figured out where and who is better. Therefore, all who fear us with a repeat of the civil war lie and lie brazenly and shamelessly. Socialism will be opposed by a smaller part of the population, and a much smaller one, this is the first, and whoever decides to take up arms against the people will be very few, and it is easy to guess what awaits them in our country. So we just have nothing to fear either a repeat of 17 years or a return to socialism. It is they themselves who fear and win businessmen and their hangers-on, because it is they who are afraid of the anger of the people.
    1. j iz sibiri
      j iz sibiri 1 October 2013 17: 30 New
      +3
      from your comment all the Jews probably choked smile
      1. smile
        smile 1 October 2013 18: 14 New
        -5
        j iz sibir
        Jews from Israel don't give a damn about this ... well, maybe some will be glad if Russia weakens in the event of a mess and cannot resist American actions in the BV. Jews from Russia are divided in the same way. As the others. And people, like Gozman, Novodvorskaya, Svanidze, are just laughing, they only see that the bogs actually control the protest movements ... and people like vladsolo56, if they climb on the barricades they will simply act in the interests of the above, and will simply be expendable material ... well, they didn’t hide their negative attitude towards the Russian people .... so that you are mistaken ....
        1. j iz sibiri
          j iz sibiri 1 October 2013 18: 28 New
          +2
          dear probably I don’t know what to even answer you

          Yes, you yourself will soon understand the minuses




          people see where the dog is buried
          1. smile
            smile 1 October 2013 19: 08 New
            -2
            j iz sibiri
            It is very bad that you consider me wrong, but you do not know what to answer. This means that your point of view is based either on blind faith, or on someone else's slogans, the justice of which you did not bother to analyze yourself. Alas.
            Yes, they will tell me minuses right now, but they will justify my wrong only ... :))) You are an adult :)))
            The dog is buried, but when those who want to bury the last remaining dog shout about it, hiding behind the indignation of burying the first one, which was buried by their like-minded people, one wonders if they are right :)))
            Therefore, think and analyze and try to be objective - these are useful activities, no less respected.
            1. j iz sibiri
              j iz sibiri 1 October 2013 19: 28 New
              +1
              difficult you person

              life will justify everything to you

              and the rest is a waste of time
              1. smile
                smile 1 October 2013 19: 46 New
                +1
                j iz sibiri
                On the contrary, I am very easy to communicate, kind, funny and unforgettable. :)))
                While life justified my case in this matter, then we'll see.
                Waste of time? Well, if there are no arguments, then yes, I agree. :))
                1. j iz sibiri
                  j iz sibiri 1 October 2013 20: 21 New
                  +1
                  no time
                  1. smile
                    smile 1 October 2013 20: 32 New
                    0
                    j iz sibiri
                    Accepted. This happens. It's okay - we still have a fight, if you wish:))) - it's almost a week that I have been lying around with my injured leg, and I haven’t been hanging around for days ... :)))
                    1. j iz sibiri
                      j iz sibiri 1 October 2013 20: 35 New
                      +1
                      I put a plus

                      truth is born in a dispute
                      1. smile
                        smile 1 October 2013 20: 57 New
                        0
                        j iz sibiri
                        Oh, thanks...:)))
                        God forbid ... :)))
    2. smile
      smile 1 October 2013 18: 06 New
      -4
      vladsolo56
      Just don’t say that you didn’t notice who saddled the protest mood. Or do you think that the mink opposition, with Novodvorskaya, bulk pork, chirikov and gozman, will lead the people to socialism? No, do you really think so. where is the swamp in which all the trash from Nazis to homosexuals united in a friendly struggle with the regime? It was the mink opposition that crushed the protest-less part of society. And it was to them that the crowd joyfully shouted their “yes” ....... if the mess in the country happened, then it would be these guys, supported from abroad, who would head it .... and then you will tear your hair on the pope. cursing your nearness ... if, of course, you have a conscience ...... What naivety .... and I'm sorry, irresponsibility ....
      1. optimist
        optimist 1 October 2013 19: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: smile
        Or do you think that the mink opposition, with Novodvorskaya, bulk pork, chirikov and gozman, will lead the people to socialism?

        Do you think that besides these clowns in the country there are no more people who hate the current gangster-oligarchic power? Smart people just understand that these blacksmith workers are the “pocket” opposition of the current government. Only narrow-minded people can take them seriously ...
        1. smile
          smile 1 October 2013 19: 58 New
          0
          optimist
          In any country, as in Russia, there are dissatisfied and nihilists. But the forces and means spent by our foes on inciting discontent and rocking the country are unprecedented. All "smart" people who hate power, who went to the swamp. how the barrrans listened to the clowns. funded and trained from abroad. And who are they after that? And only narrow-minded people. who yell about pitchforks, barricades, but are not able to name a candidate who has announced his presidential ambitions, would be better than Pu, nothing ... can only yell at their two favorite slogans "Down" and "Give" ... everything, then they their great mind is not enough .... :)))
          Smart people. dissatisfied with the situation - completely. but they will never lie so brazenly and strive to destroy the state .... Their difference from the barranes chased by swamp clowns is that they see both the failures and the successes of the authorities - they do not lie so furiously ... that's how you, for example ... :)))))
          Well, I also do not like everything, and so what?
          1. optimist
            optimist 1 October 2013 21: 25 New
            +2
            Quote: smile
            In any country, as in Russia, there are dissatisfied and nihilists.

            The problem is that in our country their overwhelming majority. And if they don’t go out on the square, it still means nothing ...
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 1 October 2013 21: 45 New
              +2
              This is not a problem, but on the contrary, it would be a problem if the Russians reconciled that they were being slaughtered
      2. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 1 October 2013 19: 34 New
        +5
        You are stubbornly pushing that our people are stupid and do not understand the difference between socialism and stupid bells such as Novodvorskaya or Navalny, you specifically focus only on those who have not been interesting to the people for a long time. You persistently put forward the thesis that besides Putin and no one will rule Russia. Stupidity is utter and calculated only on cheap propaganda no more. Always in any country, discontented masses nominated leaders, and it is not necessary that the leaders were previously advertised by someone. A leader is always in critical situations. Bulk is a project of the Kremlin, and it is not in his mind to become a real leader. You and your like will have to tear your hair, and if you manage to wash off on time.
        By the way, I noticed that people like you tell us that you’ll be cut off social articles in the budget, but you shouldn’t be indignant, but it’s like 17, you’ll be raised by 30% (for a start) for electricity, but you shouldn’t be indignant, otherwise it will be like 17, the prices of essential goods are rising like mushrooms, but you should not be indignant, otherwise it will be like 17. Or maybe it's time for us to say that if this mess does not stop, it will definitely be like 17 .
        1. smile
          smile 1 October 2013 20: 11 New
          -4
          vladsolo56
          The extent to which the Communist Party with its ideas of socialism is supported by the people, it can be seen from the election results, just don’t need to start a bodyagie about stolen votes, this agitation is tired ...
          Zyuganov discredited the Party, he is a limp rag, and moreover, he lies more often than Pu .... Moreover, a quarter of a century of anti-communist propaganda has done its job ...
          I persistently promote the thesis. that none of those who ran for suicide suited Pu. If you know such a name. And it is these losers who yell about all-country ownership ... believe them, excuse me, really utter stupidity ... :)))) And at a critical moment the bulk and a gang of its competitors came forward, the next time someone will lead you them, do not flatter yourself.

          And I’m not going to wash off, you won’t wait :))). And if you have to protect Russia from collapse or from unrest organized from abroad, in which rams with different political convictions will act, but guided by guys like swamps (and there won't be others), then I will act mercilessly both towards enemies and myself, in another way I do not know how. And let's end the conversation, otherwise we'll have a fight. :)))
    3. optimist
      optimist 1 October 2013 19: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: vladsolo56
      It is they themselves who fear and win businessmen and their hangers-on, because it is they who are afraid of the anger of the people.

      That's it! And some on the forum they sing along !!! (Probably, these "sing along" have "factories, newspapers, steamers"!) Or a stall with shawarma ...
  • artist-mamluk
    artist-mamluk 1 October 2013 17: 27 New
    +4
    Comrade STALIN, where are you, with you the dollar was worth 70 kopecks and for x no one needed this dollar.
    1. alone
      alone 1 October 2013 19: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: artist-mamluk
      Comrade STALIN, where are you, with you the dollar was worth 70 kopecks and for x no one needed this dollar.


      Why, some even in Stalin needed a dollar. but it was only worth buying it, the buyer immediately changed his suit to a quilted jacket and went to cut the forest for 15 years))
      1. Avenger711
        Avenger711 1 October 2013 20: 15 New
        -2
        The forest would not go down, the maximum would be forcibly exchanged at the exchange rate, however, there was still nothing to buy for the dollar in the USSR. And now they are not accepted everywhere.
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 1 October 2013 21: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: artist-mamluk
      Comrade STALIN, where are you, with you the dollar was worth 70 kopecks and for x no one needed this dollar.
  • kostik1301
    kostik1301 1 October 2013 17: 28 New
    -1
    The Central Bank is time to nationalize ...
  • dojjdik
    dojjdik 1 October 2013 17: 47 New
    +4
    if we carry out "nationalization," then the US and Israeli Jews may "choke"; as for revolution 17, then nicholasch would not have climbed into the world war; if he did not have brains then Lenin and the people found them; and the revolution only deprives the answer to hunger and chaos begun by the king in 1914 (beginning of World War I)
    1. waisson
      waisson 1 October 2013 18: 51 New
      +2
      I think we will not make mistakes
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 1 October 2013 17: 50 New
    -3
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  • 456
    456 1 October 2013 17: 55 New
    -1
    article big "+"
  • saag
    saag 1 October 2013 18: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: BigRiver
    The construction of which factories producing which goods and products that will be competitive in which market?

    Microelectronics, military, industrial, space
  • kirpich
    kirpich 1 October 2013 18: 36 New
    +6
    Quote: smile
    If radical Islamists invade us, we simply smear them. They and those who will support them - the speakers will be visible, and no one will stand on ceremony with them. Moreover, normal Muslims will help us in this, whose heads will fly first at the hands of the radicals.


    Mdaa ... You don’t even know what to say. This should be treated in closed type PND.
    1. smile
      smile 1 October 2013 21: 43 New
      -2
      kirpich
      As I understand it, what do you write while your orderlies have a smoke? :)))
      Are you able to distinguish "Invasion" from creeping expansion? Did you notice that a friend wrote specifically about the invasion? Or would you just blurt out? :)))
      The radicals really only invaded us once, in 99, in the Novolaksky and Botlikhsky districts.
      Do you need to tell what happened? 1. Instantly, almost spontaneously, the Dagestan militia gathered, armed with anything at all, and gave them the first rebuff. And this is in Dagestan, where Wahhabism already bloomed, remember, they gave a sword with a burka to the joyful Swan, I think in the Wahhabi adder Karamakhi? Remember that in Dagestan they sympathized with the Czechs, they kept the refugees ... and invaded and hi ...
      Remember, I hope that only miserable crumbs from the intruders fled from Dagestan? Remember that the hotbeds of Wahhabism were almost completely cleaned out? And the Dagestanis who lay in the ground, fighting with our soldiers shoulder to shoulder, were Muslims ...

      No, you don’t remember anything, it’s not without reason that they say - he who does not remember the past has no future. You are trying to deprive yourself of your future, based on militant unconsciousness .... Good luck, comrade psychiatrist - say hello to your orderlies- and ask them- let them find at least something about the events of the summer-autumn of 99 .....: )))
  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 1 October 2013 19: 07 New
    +1
    from the Don.
    I read - +. 2 points. 1-in my soul, suspecting a lot of what is happening in the country, anger and indignation are accumulating! 2-by and large, little depends on me. It will simply be confronted with the fact. Everything is muddied in Moscow and other big cities. It remains to live a normal life in spite of everything that happens. And show a big wow to everyone who is trying to bend me!
  • New Russia
    New Russia 1 October 2013 19: 47 New
    +2
    And after the nationalization of the Central Bank, how will the government’s policy regarding education, medicine, science, small business, migration change? The question is rhetorical :)
  • Bezarius
    Bezarius 1 October 2013 19: 55 New
    -4
    The best way to solve the issue of fertility is to abolish pensions.
    At first glance, it sounds wild, and what is the connection between pension and birth rate, but it is.

    And the mechanism here is as follows. If the state does not pay, then you need to somehow ensure your old age, and almost the only way are children, many children. Also, this approach helps to strengthen the institution of the family, and “forces” it to be responsible for both its life and the lives of its children. In addition, the abolition of pensions will significantly reduce the tax yoke, which will lead to higher wages, economic growth and increased economic activity.

    Naturally, I do not propose abolishing pensions completely, but the pension system needs to be reformed so that it helps only those who really need it.

    By the way, according to some reports, the Central Bank greatly underestimates the real value of the ruble, as far as I remember, the real value of the dollar is 12.5р (data ~ 2012 of the year). Those. because of the Central Bank, our real purchasing power is ~ 2.5 times lower than it should be. If we nationalize the Central Bank and strengthen the ruble and, as a result, the purchasing power, as well as reorient the economy to domestic consumption, as Grandfather Stalin bequeathed, I think we could make a significant economic breakthrough. Naturally, this will negatively affect the investment background, as for foreign investors, everything will become 2 + times more expensive. But I think we, in principle, should not rely on foreign money, and in general it is necessary to make the economy as independent of the world as possible so that global crises do not affect our economy.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 2 October 2013 06: 20 New
      +1
      The abolition of pensions, it’s necessary to come up with this, if it’s not from a common sense point, then yes, children can and should take care of their parents, as it was in old times at least. However, in our time, society is structured differently, the children themselves and their parents do not need them. The education of egoism has become the norm and everywhere. Therefore, your proposal for today will not work, it will only drastically reduce the number of elderly people, without a pension and without hoping for children, very many will go along the path of suicide. That's about what will happen if you cancel the pension.
      1. T80UM1
        T80UM1 2 October 2013 10: 06 New
        0
        In South Korea, only the military has pensions, and nothing lives, according to the law, citizens are required to support their parents. And in the end, so that children support their parents and be responsible, they must be properly educated. Therefore, parents are forced to pay attention to proper education. Therefore, pensions are a way to combat overpopulation.
      2. T80UM1
        T80UM1 2 October 2013 10: 09 New
        0
        Nobody says that it is necessary to introduce the law for the elderly, it is necessary to introduce it for current youth and they will not grind children into their heads or will not bring them up in old age, you will be struggling. By the way, nursing homes are also a way to combat overpopulation, why do you say that the state needs to take care of you to breed in old age.
      3. Bezarius
        Bezarius 2 October 2013 11: 00 New
        +1
        It is in order to restore the institution of the family that is what is needed. With this system, families will become strong again, and families with 3 and more children will become the norm. Naturally, this decision is not a silver bullet, but I mentioned above that those really needing should still receive a pension. Because it’s not necessary to bring to the point of absurdity either. Naturally, you cannot run this program now. But years through 20-30, it is quite reasonable, with constant propaganda during these 20-30 years.

        PS: they instructed the minuses, but no one bothered to substantiate their minus ... apparently the bots ...
        1. T80UM1
          T80UM1 2 October 2013 11: 53 New
          0
          I put a plus
  • Avenger711
    Avenger711 1 October 2013 20: 14 New
    +1
    Remember what the American dollar was 15–20 years ago? It was a real block, a value not subject to either time or inflation!


    It’s time for Starikov to learn history, and about what you could buy for a dollar in 1980, or in 1900 to learn better. Since then, the dollar has depreciated at times.

    If the state does not pay


    That in <Censored> is such a state, throwing out people who have become unnecessary from old age in the trash.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 1 October 2013 21: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Avenger711
      Since then, the dollar has depreciated at times.

      Programmed dollar inflation - 3% per year
  • starhina01
    starhina01 1 October 2013 20: 24 New
    +1
    article clearly plus read the brain stir the main thing so that the policy does not boil, the matter is delicate and those who read the article are clearly not stupid read the comments once again confirmation of this hi
  • Sour
    Sour 1 October 2013 21: 01 New
    +3
    The phrase smiled: "construction of new factories."
    As if everything is so simple. And what will these plants produce? Who should sell the products? And who will work for them - is there personnel in the country? Or invite guest workers?
    I would like to hear answers to these questions from Mr. Starikov.
    Hedgehog it is clear that it is necessary to raise the industry. But to build factories in order to build, this has already passed.
    IMHO the best way - import substitution. This is currently being implemented in the food industry and chemical industry. The most promising areas. The same "Tobolsk-Polymer" will allow in the coming years to completely abandon the import of plastics and films.
    Of course, it would be promising to develop the military industry. Although its products in the foreign market depend on the political situation. But still it needs to be developed.
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 1 October 2013 21: 08 New
      +2
      Sour, you write everything correctly, but only few people understand this. I support you.
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    3. New Russia
      New Russia 1 October 2013 21: 37 New
      +2
      "As if everything is so simple. And what will these factories produce? Who will sell the products? And who will work for them - is there personnel in the country? Or will we invite migrant workers?" The old man’s nonsense is designed for naive people, like he says everything is right, but he does not say details.
  • MG42
    MG42 1 October 2013 21: 40 New
    +2
    1. Depriving the Central Bank of the Russian Federation of “independence”, transforming this department from the “branch of the Fed” into the state treasury and nationalization of the ruble.

    The ruble must be provided with gold reserves, for a start Russia needs to learn how to sell its energy resources for rubles and not for dollars, and nationalization is if you completely change the model from market to state = planned, that is, until the state changes. building ..
    Otherwise, all this is empty talk in favor of the poor ..
    Indeed, in a market economy, the state is not the most effective owner ..
  • lexe
    lexe 1 October 2013 21: 43 New
    -1
    I think 1917. we are not threatened for this is a control shot.
    Rather, slow sliding is the real threat.
    And then somehow it suddenly appears that Russia is NOT-s ...

    Factories, Central Bank ....- ideological allies in the West need to seek and unite the Russian people.
    LAND is needed! a man must be returned to the village! And with the help of ideological allies in the West we will survive a difficult time, and then factories.
    Man and fertility are more important than factories.
    Well, if we do not find understanding among sensible people in the West, then HELLO agreed on Great China with the Mongols, Nevsky agreed and why are the Chinese worse?
    The Russian people have overtaken, not the factories, the mentality and soul must be treated - otherwise the last Russian will be seen at the machine of one of these plants.
    Well, I swear, like children. What kind of factories? As long as there is a nuclear fist-in the village everyone with women and children to give birth, well, and then with a dozen children you can go to the factory laughing
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 1 October 2013 21: 51 New
      +1
      17 years will not be. Just because no one will marry these, as they did not in December 2011, when guest workers, students and pensioners were driven under the flags of EdR
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 1 October 2013 21: 55 New
        +1
        That's good.
  • cognitive
    cognitive 1 October 2013 22: 39 New
    +1
    The article talks about things that have long been understood by those who think for themselves, and are not under the zombie influence of the media and propaganda. Only a lot of rose-colored glasses and idealization of the situation. Now it’s just not realistic to solve the problem of raising the economy through the central bank, because the essence of the problem is the transition to a new techno-structure .Nationalization of mineral resources will automatically occur when the management model is changed, and again a new one has not been applied anywhere before. The construction of new plants becomes meaningless if we go into new technologies that close old industries with its industrial giants and cost several times less and production territories. Attraction of Western technologies , complete nonsense. Our kulibins have long made the west on all counts. What are the fuel-free engine and the engine on the water. Well, as regards the birth rate, all the above plus the idea leading forward, will give an automatic increase in the birth rate. Only all this is now achievable through a large trouble and blood
    1. lexe
      lexe 1 October 2013 23: 00 New
      0
      The construction of new factories becomes meaningless if you go into new technologies that close the old industries with its industrial giants and costing significantly lower costs and production areas

      I agree with you all 100. I think so.
      And then how can it turn out:
      again, revolution, again, industrialization, enthusiasm for the new industrial power according to Stalin ...
      And then there is a knock on the door and the technological revolution, and again we are at a trough and again a mass of new plants per colormet.
      It is in such technological gaps that Russia will be tempted.
      MIC and s / x - this is our medicine.
      In the meantime, there is no opportunity-land to the masses and small business.
  • nikcris
    nikcris 1 October 2013 22: 42 New
    +2
    Quote: MG42
    1. Depriving the Central Bank of the Russian Federation of “independence”, transforming this department from the “branch of the Fed” into the state treasury and nationalization of the ruble.

    The ruble must be provided with gold reserves, for a start Russia needs to learn how to sell its energy resources for rubles and not for dollars, and nationalization is if you completely change the model from market to state = planned, that is, until the state changes. building ..
    Otherwise, all this is empty talk in favor of the poor ..
    Indeed, in a market economy, the state is not the most effective owner ..

    Gold reserves not a single den. unit not provided. You can trade for rubles, but only what is the global meaning of such trade? That we bought rubles for dollars and paid for hydrocarbons from us? Bankers will rise steeply on margin.
    And with the gold content (if US decided to go on it) the most impressive feints were done by anyone. Offhand - Khrushchev and Nixon. Moreover, if Nixon saved the storehouse and laid the foundation for a new era of cotton paper, Khrushch prepared a dull dead end for the USSR, although in 1961 this could not be seen.
    1. MG42
      MG42 1 October 2013 23: 04 New
      +4
      Quote: nikcris
      You can trade for rubles, but only what is the global meaning of such trade? That we bought rubles for dollars and paid for hydrocarbons from us? Bankers will rise steeply on margin.

      The meaning is quite simple when trading for rubles, this will cause additional strengthening of the ruble, because trading for dollars and storing reserves in them only strengthen the world reserve currency = US dollar ..
      Quote: nikcris
      Gold reserves not a single den. unit not provided.

      I cut out a piece of the Soviet chervonets below, read the inscription
      clickable, now compare what is written in US dollars <We believe in God> bully
    2. MG42
      MG42 1 October 2013 23: 28 New
      0
      And can a personal question >> you have a name in the profile <Nikolay> with a small letter, what is the point here, do you not respect yourself? or..
  • SCS
    SCS 1 October 2013 23: 35 New
    +2
    mistakes in 1917? But in 1993, then everything was right?
  • navy1301
    navy1301 2 October 2013 01: 57 New
    +2
    article "consumer goods", and how many "comments", common truths ... 99% of wars are territory and resources. The main enemy of Russia is Russia itself
    1. 787nkx
      787nkx 2 October 2013 10: 54 New
      0
      More fools and roads.
  • Altona
    Altona 2 October 2013 10: 23 New
    +1
    If all the recipes were as simple as in the Leninians movies- Telephone, telegraph, train station, central bank and non-land agency, then probably a long time ago there would have been a bunch of new Bolsheviks ... Unfortunately, now everything is much more complicated ...
  • NordUral
    NordUral 3 December 2017 23: 50 New
    0
    Do not repeat mistakes made in 1917


    Not to repeat the mistakes of 1991.