"Cedar" PP-91 - Construction Eugene Dragunov

The Kedr submachine gun was developed for the army as early as the 70s. last century, the famous gunsmith Eugene Dragunov, and was in demand after two decades, the Interior Ministry units.

At the beginning of the 1990's Ministry of the Interior. wanting to get weaponthat fills a niche between the PM pistol and the shortened AKS 74V submachine gun, issued an order for the development of small submachine guns. The weapons design bureaux turned to experimental guns developed by the order of the Ministry of Defense at the beginning of the 1970-s. Among those was the design of E.F. Dragunov. then embodied in two samples - PP-91 -Kedr- (Construction Eugene Dragunov) and PP-9 -Klin-. Their refinement and refinement at the Izhevsk Mechanical Plant (“Izhmeh”) was led by the eldest son of E. F. Dragunov - M. E. Dragunov. “The wedge in 1994 was put into service by the Ministry of Internal Affairs. The production of submachine guns was carried out at the Zlatoust Machine-Building Plant (ZMZ).

Submachine guns outwardly practically do not differ from each other and are built according to a modular scheme. Automation operates on the basis of recoil free shutter. “Cedar” is designed for 9x18 PM cartridge, –Klin - for 9x18 PMM with the ability to use 9x18 PM. As in the PMM gun, in “Klin-screw grooves on the walls of the chamber detain unlocking. The bolt handle is located on the left, which should speed up the bringing of weapons on alert.

The percussion mechanism is kurkovy, with a “cock of a cock and a shot from the front whispered. Right above the trigger guard is a flag translator-fuse, specifying the modes of a single (middle position)

and continuous (top position) fire. In the “fuse” position, it blocks the trigger and the bolt, while the checkbox “looks” inside the trigger guard. The trigger mechanism is assembled in a separate case, inserted inside the bolt (receiver) box and easily removable during disassembly: a technique borrowed from a TT pistol and facilitating disassembly and assembly of weapons

The submachine gun is equipped with a pistol grip, with a light metal butt that is folded up and down. The aiming devices include an adjustable front sight with a fence and a whole L-shaped reversible sight with a slit on one shoulder and a diopter on the other. When unfolding the butt, the rear sight turns, so that when the butt is folded, the shooting is conducted with an open sight, and when folded down - with a diopter, providing a more accurate aiming.

Food - from direct box-shaped metal shops with a chess arrangement of cartridges. The neckline into which the magazine is inserted increases the reliability of the power supply system, and also serves to hold the weapon with the second hand. Pushbutton magazine latch and shutter release, releasing the bolt after inserting a loaded magazine, facilitate reloading. When firing regular ammunition from the wedge, single shots with the butt folded from the stop at the 25 range.

Comments

[aszzz888]

Nothing machine, although a little angular. He would still be imprisoned under TT cartridges - he would be a shock shorty.

[avt]

Quote: aszzz888

although a little angular

Type is not glamorous?

Quote: aszzz888

It would still be imprisoned under TT cartridges

What for? Type in lads of TT cartridges a lot? Normal caliber and excellent police PP.

[aszzz888]

Well, for someone he is "glamorous", and for whom he clings to clothes once again, and at the most inopportune moment. And cartridges and lads are somehow incompatible at all. The PP was not made for her (lads).

[duke]

YES not at the lads, but in the warehouses, why this cartridge is thought to be given to the BB and the police, hence the idea. For them, the 9 mm caliber is actually redundant, and these mountains of ammunition are considered to be a good fit for the police forces.

[anomalocaris]

Oh well. In fact, the 7,62x25 cartridge is slightly more powerful than the 9x18 cartridge, about two-thirds.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: avt

Quote: aszzz888

although a little angular

Type is not glamorous?

Quote: aszzz888

It would still be imprisoned under TT cartridges

What for? Type in lads of TT cartridges a lot? Normal caliber and excellent police PP.

Type cartridge epoch-making. They wrote him off to the archive, and he still has to serve and serve. The only thing is that it is useless for police needs, only for the army.

[Denisey]

Quote: aszzz888

Nothing machine, although a little angular

but shoot out of it is pretty nice. he, at your remark in angularity is comfortable to wear. the truth is from the remarks - for this item the cover of the store spring sometimes flies.

[alex-cn]

300mm by 25 meters is a lot, perhaps with such a 50 in the chest target and not get. But as far as I know, this is a plaque of all short PPs, from Stechkin to a mini ultrasound, apparently it’s simply impossible to keep such a small bells and whistle when giving a burst. Well, on the other side, if it whistled and latched on all sides, aiming to shoot in response somehow uncomfortable. In my opinion, this is a purely police weapon, a short replacement for a shotgun.

[Prapor-527]

Great PP! For a long time he served with him. When shooting singles, even Losers fall into the top ten. There is practically no recoil. When shooting in short bursts from 25 m, with a certain skill, 6-4% of hits are placed on the M-70 (M-80) chest target. I would like to note pluses, -dioptric sight (with the stock unfolded, the reloading handle on the left side, the presence of a slide delay. Of the minuses, -unreliable magazine attachment, short butt, inconvenient grip for the 'front hand'.

[skeptic]

Quote: Prapor-527

Great PP! For a long time I served with him.

Especially "good" complete non-interchangeability of stores, not to mention other details. If you took the store with a wrong number, you can not push it in or it will fall out. When firing more than one magazine, one cartridge begins to fit onto another, as a result, you need to pull out the magazine, juggle the shutter. In short, "excellent quality" from others. And about the accuracy of shooting - I agree. Nearly. The diopter is good in the daytime,but not at dusk. Therefore, there is a choice, or you shoot with an ordinary slot, but with a folded butt, or with a butt, but blindly, in the direction of the barrel.

[Colonel]

I do not agree that

complete non-interchangeability of stores

. Three weeks ago I shot two dozen trunks, and I took only two stores with me, it was too lazy to open all the packages. I have never caught a wedge, not in terms of getting stuck, not in terms of falling out. After the shooting, they were hungry over chest targets (25 meters). When shooting with the butt folded out, through the diopter, with the target, you can do whatever you want. The most unpleasant sensation when shooting with the butt is that the button is designed to fold the butt when recoil hits the nose

[skeptic]

Quote: colonel

I do not agree that
complete non-interchangeability of stores

Well, if you started to do fine, but I also judge, not just one trunk.

[Rurikovich]

Do not forget that every type of weapon is created for specific purposes. If a submachine gun is created for a high density of fire in a limited area, then cartridges of the largest possible caliber are suitable for him, because having a large stopping torque, such as, for example, pistol 9mm-11mm. Plus, simplicity of design. So, submachine guns in all countries of the world are used with success. Unless, of course, use them in those cases for which they are intended.

[sergant89]

He shot this weapon more than a dozen times, it’s for sure that the two-wheeler falls into almost a dozen and there is almost no recoil with the butt in disassembled, but often there was jamming and a very weak fuse , there were several random shots on the fuse, after which the leadership took them off balance, somehow.

[xomaNN]

I had to shoot from it. But in appearance and performance characteristics for the development and technology of the 70s, the weapon is very decent.

[StolzSS]

Yes, he did not outlive his fighters for the assault better Whirlwind. If the current Chopovtsi to storm them infrequently still serve 20 years)))

[Aristocrat]

Quote: duke

YES not at the lads, but in the warehouses, why this cartridge is thought to be given to the BB and the police, hence the idea. For them, the 9 mm caliber is actually redundant, and these mountains of ammunition are considered to be a good fit for the police forces.

Why is 9x18 redundant? In fact, he is scolded for being much weaker than parabellum ... The TT cartridge (and indeed the TT itself) was abandoned due to strong recoil, which reduces the effectiveness of shooting and because of the low "stopping" effect of a pointed 7,62mm bullet to besides giving multiple ricochets, which is highly undesirable for the "police" needs in order to avoid the defeat of others.

[Massik]

The diopter sight is good in daylight, but in the twilight it’s difficult to light it drowns out great.

[Vendor]

We have all the PPS nicknames armed with this. instead of the AK-74, they complain that they always cling to everything

[Odin_ne_voin]

shot, the first time everything was a target. 5 ergonomics, as if custom-made. that single, that automatic mode - up to 30 m, everything is there. delighted with the typewriter. recommend.

[qwert1707]

Oh, and repulsed the Cedar of nerves ... all kinds of delays, from "sticking a cartridge" to a spontaneous shot ... there was a case that it was necessary to disassemble in order to remove the cartridge case (but this is still more of a claim to the quality of the ammunition, our opinions were divided then)
I don’t know, maybe they came to us with factory defects and flaws, but they tried not to take them up in arms a month later.
It’s a pity I can’t upload the video where it was shot, as during the assault, this miracle jammed by my friend ...
Yeah and PMovskiy cartridge weak, whatever they say.