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China has begun to develop the aircraft of the future

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China has begun to develop the aircraft of the future



Engineers of the Chinese company Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAC), have begun to develop a fundamentally new aircraft to test new technologies.



Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group is one of the leading enterprises of China's military-industrial complex, which develops and manufactures Jian-10, Hongdu L-15, JF-17 aircraft and 5 fighter of the Chengdu J-20 generation.

During the defense exhibition, a model of an unmanned aerial vehicle with a futuristic appearance was presented. Many experts doubt the future of this model and express their skepticism about the possibilities aviation industry of China. But the example of fifth-generation aircraft Chengdu J-20, which several years ago were also exhibited exclusively in the form of models, makes one think.

The Chinese leadership has set the task of creating the most powerful air force in the world, and therefore all the forces are investing in the improvement of existing technologies and the search for revolutionary solutions.
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  1. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 30 September 2013 08: 03 New
    +5
    Again, something communized? Sly glanders ...
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 30 September 2013 08: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: serge-68-68
      Again, something communized?

      Ahead .. crying
    2. Mitek
      Mitek 30 September 2013 08: 29 New
      15
      Quote: serge-68-68
      Again, something communized? Sly glanders ...

      To begin development now means making a strange design based on cartoons? I do not want to belittle the Chinese, we all see what they have achieved over the past 20 years, but DEVELOPMENT is not their thing. To skimp their skate and release a worsened copy. And if you dance from the fact that they can’t release a full copy of our engines, then what kind of aircraft of the future can we talk about?
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 September 2013 09: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: Mitek
        make a weird cartoon design

        Yeah, the constructor obviously batman reviewed for the night ...
      2. Andrey57
        Andrey57 30 September 2013 09: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Mitek
        And if you dance from the fact that they can’t release a full copy of our engines

        Why can't they? They can, only he has a flying resource, just a little bit, often it is necessary to change however! laughing
      3. Valkyrie
        Valkyrie 30 September 2013 10: 07 New
        +1
        You are right, of course, but, nevertheless, the Chinese should not be underestimated. In their quest to create the most powerful army in the world, they have already achieved great success.
        1. the polar
          the polar 30 September 2013 12: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: Valkyrie
          You are right, of course, but, nevertheless, the Chinese should not be underestimated. In their quest to create the most powerful army in the world, they have already achieved great success.

          Now it remains to prove this in action
          1. True
            True 30 September 2013 12: 36 New
            +2
            God forbid! And they will prove it, and your slogans will not help.
  2. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 30 September 2013 08: 04 New
    +8
    It is likely that the proposed model is just for eye contact. The real project will be completely different, do not underestimate China and its capabilities, especially now.
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 30 September 2013 08: 07 New
      12
      China has not yet developed its engines for existing aircraft, but is already talking about the aircraft of the future. Set one goal, and implement a completely different one.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 September 2013 09: 31 New
        +4
        Quote: xetai9977
        China has not yet developed its engines for existing aircraft,

        They buy engines from us, our liberals sell the best, and troops are provided on a residual basis.
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 30 September 2013 12: 26 New
        +1
        It’s logical not to develop your own engines if you are weak in them, but immediately try to get something from scratch in principle. Because to catch up with competitors, already the best, is almost impossible, you will still be on the sidelines in the most ideal case. Strategically, such a solution is not just true, it is the only one.
        Another question, this thing in the photo is just a banter. Because fundamentally new engines are a different physics. Modern physics is neutralized so reliably that it no longer solves any real problems. Here to file, paste there ... with its help, no new engines can be done, maybe they will finish the ramjet (not a fact yet) and that’s all.
        So the question is - do the Chinese let out fog as they can and love, or do they have something? But what if? Suddenly there is a man with a clear, not carefully loaded head restrictions? It can be very fun then ...
    2. Airman
      Airman 30 September 2013 09: 18 New
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      It is likely that the proposed model is just for eye contact. The real project will be completely different, do not underestimate China and its capabilities, especially now.

      Everything is possible, but the fact that China announced a new development says that "some" people are sitting in "some" companies and slowly merging information, there is no doubt. And a recognizable "hybrid" may appear.
  3. vitek1233
    vitek1233 30 September 2013 08: 07 New
    +2
    China seeks to equip its armed forces with the latest weapons, and it is not bad at it. Personally, I don't like
  4. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet 30 September 2013 08: 09 New
    +7
    The device in the style of "Luke, I am your father!"
  5. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 September 2013 08: 20 New
    +1
    Quote: serge-68-68
    Again, something communized? Sly glanders ...

    Ha ha ha ...)))
  6. mirag2
    mirag2 30 September 2013 08: 31 New
    +1
    Well, he certainly went far from Iranian developments, but obviously damp.
  7. Reasonable, 2,3
    Reasonable, 2,3 30 September 2013 08: 33 New
    +2
    Quote: sergey72
    Quote: serge-68-68
    Again, something communized?

    Ahead .. crying

    All this garbage. The army is big, and at least one victory in history exists?. 56 border guards perished at Damansky. And the Chinese were killed in 3652. That's the situation.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 30 September 2013 08: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
      All this is garbage. They have a large army, and at least one victory in history exists ?.

      Well, actually, they saved a lot> | <opa Kim Il Sung from complete defeat. True, they lost countless manpower - but who considered the Chinese then, and even more so now, for them a million here and there is simply an error in statistics. And again, from above, they were covered by the USSR Air Force, albeit with Korean identities.
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 30 September 2013 09: 25 New
      +2
      reasonable. The Chinese defeated the Indians, who are even worse fighters than themselves.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 30 September 2013 10: 52 New
        0
        Do you mean the border conflicts between India and China?
    3. Valkyrie
      Valkyrie 30 September 2013 10: 11 New
      0
      Now the situation will be completely different. Everything has changed since then.
  8. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 30 September 2013 08: 41 New
    +3
    China has begun to develop the aircraft of the future

    In order to develop the aircraft of the future, it would be nice to begin to learn how to properly copy aircraft engines of the past.
    1. 0255
      0255 30 September 2013 09: 14 New
      +1
      In order to develop the aircraft of the future, it would be nice to begin to learn how to properly copy aircraft engines of the past.

      they probably invent gravitsapu laughing Or the ancient Indian treatises on how to make vimanas controlled by the power of thought laughing
      1. Denis_Rossiya
        Denis_Rossiya 30 September 2013 09: 28 New
        +2
        In general, judging by the layout, they most likely stole a new designer from Lego, collected it and are now trying to pass it off as a promising weapon)))
        1. 0255
          0255 30 September 2013 15: 41 New
          0
          In general, judging by the layout, they most likely stole a new designer from Lego, collected it and are now trying to pass it off as a promising weapon)))

          this layout should be given to the Disney studio, which is going to shoot the 7th, 8th, 9th star wars. As a ship of some new dark forces laughing
  9. marat1000
    marat1000 30 September 2013 08: 47 New
    +1
    flying ax wassat
  10. Wedmak
    Wedmak 30 September 2013 09: 01 New
    +1
    The Chinese decided to collect all their copies in one device? Well then, yes, the apparatus of the future!
  11. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 30 September 2013 09: 02 New
    +2
    Hero, planed from polystyrene frightened the author! For new developments, China has enough money to order it to Russia. R&D is very expensive and long. Their skate is "steal & copy".
  12. ilichstar
    ilichstar 30 September 2013 09: 05 New
    +1
    and what are we better with "armature"? who saw her except in the models? and the planes of the future are full in our cardboard! it's just that our modelers are better than theirs =), and we know how to lie about our future developments like no other! Chubais won’t even manage to convince that he invented the bulb and even showed it to the president! the president touched her with such enthusiasm, as if he were seeing such a miracle for the first time!
    p / s / but meanwhile, China is just not enough strong aircraft to capture us ....
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 September 2013 09: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: ilichstar
      Chubais won’t even manage to convince that he invented the light bulb and even showed it to the president

      RUSNANO even managed to present this loss as an achievement.
      Quote: ilichstar
      China to capture us it is strong aviation that is not enough ....

      So we ourselves are selling it to them. And then they themselves will assemble and repair it in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. To transfer the plant would not be bad, for strategic reasons.
  13. cosmos111
    cosmos111 30 September 2013 09: 13 New
    +1
    Again, the Chinese, somewhere, screwed technology.
    In the photo ... arrow-shaped tail, will he fly backwards?
    1. Andrey_K
      Andrey_K 30 September 2013 14: 29 New
      0
      This, apparently, is an apparatus with a variable, rotary, wing geometry.
      For takeoff, he uses only wings (wide), then he turns the body 90 degrees and flies with supersonic wings with small wings.
  14. vazzag
    vazzag 30 September 2013 09: 18 New
    0
    Our cars have turbocharged engines, with a volume of 1.1 - 1,4 liters. outstanding 140 hp, is there an automatic transmission of various principles? So do not blather if you yourself are in manure imports.
    1. biglow
      biglow 30 September 2013 09: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: vazzag
      Our cars have turbocharged engines, with a volume of 1.1 - 1,4 liters. outstanding 140 hp, is there an automatic transmission of various principles? So do not blather if you yourself are in manure imports.

      how many hundreds of thousands of kilometers can the above-mentioned forced motor drive through? the answer is 100. thousand and to the landfill. Such a motor cannot even be recaptured. On disposable cars let those who invented them ride ....
  15. My address
    My address 30 September 2013 09: 30 New
    +3
    It's a shame mother, mother, mother.

    And we have? And here, starting with Boriski, it’s me about EBN, what the hell are we with. And continues. For example, fashion went to nominate young. A good thing, but when brought to idiocy, it becomes bad. Very young at the head of the team picks up even younger in the subordinates, others are dangerous knowledge, experience, other things. And often this team tries to embody the idiotic ideas. And after receiving the ears subside, just to cut down the money.
    Sorry, I can not resist. The above, including about the "beloved" by me DAM. I do not want to say that he is ....., but flies are rarely wrong.
    A wonderful Jewish joke:
    - Moishe! You fly fly.
    - Abgasha, you want to say that I .....?
    - Of course not, but flies rarely make mistakes ...

    The first time I heard the details about Chinese engineering in 2000 from a German working in China. Even then, they had modern engineering, although it was medieval at a distance of ten kilometers from it. Rolling mills, continuous casting machines, powerful smelters. Eh! Mother, mother, mother!
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 September 2013 09: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: My address
      For example, fashion went to push young people. It’s a good thing, but when brought to idiocy, it becomes bad

      Young people are easier to manage.
  16. intsurfer
    intsurfer 30 September 2013 09: 31 New
    +3
    Quote: Asan Ata
    Hero, planed from polystyrene frightened the author! For new developments, China has enough money to order it to Russia. R&D is very expensive and long. Their skate is "steal & copy".

    The Chinese began with copying, but now their car gets 5 stars on EuroNCAP. They are also developing processors themselves. And the device, as in the photo, is very similar to the approach of automakers who are testing new components on ugly cars so that no one sniffs out anything.
  17. 0255
    0255 30 September 2013 09: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: ilichstar
    and what are we better with "armature"? who saw her except in the models? and the planes of the future are full in our cardboard! it's just that our modelers are better than theirs =), and we know how to lie about our future developments like no other! Chubais won’t even manage to convince that he invented the bulb and even showed it to the president! the president touched her with such enthusiasm, as if he were seeing such a miracle for the first time!
    p / s / but meanwhile, China is just not enough strong aircraft to capture us ....

    Russian designers are not to blame for the fact that little is financed from their new developments, money goes to Chubais and his friends sad
    I would insert in the comment with YOUTUBE the video of Semyon Slepakov “Song of the Russian official”, but my comment will be deleted
  18. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 30 September 2013 09: 48 New
    +1
    The model is similar to the "cross" of Alienov from the Ural Federal District, at least it is clear what the designer played in his youth.
  19. major071
    major071 30 September 2013 10: 10 New
    +6
    Decommissioned technology + cheap labor = h.n. he knows what happens.
    Ufologists around the world have recently been concerned that of the 10 UFOs they observe, at least 8 are built in China. Joke.
    1. Valkyrie
      Valkyrie 30 September 2013 10: 19 New
      0
      And one must also add on here the enormous Chinese industriousness (where the hell can they get the hell out of living on the same rice?) And the enormous Chinese tenacity. And this is already a lot.
  20. nod739
    nod739 30 September 2013 10: 27 New
    0
    a good plane cannot be not beautiful (c)
    although there were exceptions
    in the picture, something is not visible beauty - golden sections, proportions, fractals and other beauty quirks - wait and see
    in vain they say that the Chinese are not copying well, something very, very successful, improving
    take space — a bad copy of b — accident after accident, and their launch vehicle has more than a hundred launches without serious emergency situations — and this was only once with the USSR
  21. APASUS
    APASUS 30 September 2013 10: 27 New
    +2
    Yes, let them work! The whole Internet is full of videos of this type, but to come up with and then create a flying model ......... things are not typical for the Chinese. There is no school of aircraft building, there is no that experimental technological base, there is the possibility of stupid copying, and inventing it is not for China ???
  22. RUSS
    RUSS 30 September 2013 10: 49 New
    +3
    The Chinese need less to watch Japanese fantasy anime.
  23. USNik
    USNik 30 September 2013 11: 32 New
    0
    Judging by the look "in profile" and the location of the engine, the apparatus is sharpened by hypersound? Have more detailed information on it?
    1. 0255
      0255 30 September 2013 15: 50 New
      0
      Judging by the look "in profile" and the location of the engine, the apparatus is sharpened by hypersound? Have more detailed information on it?

      information about him is most likely classified laughing That way until some 2060 laughing
    2. POBEDA
      POBEDA 1 October 2013 01: 55 New
      +1
      Yep, exactly! Super hyper sound! Such crap will fall apart before supersonic!
  24. kudwar68
    kudwar68 30 September 2013 11: 40 New
    +1
    Is this squalor really going to fly? And if so, then this iron boomerang will often fall than take off, how many Chineses will die ...
    1. 0255
      0255 30 September 2013 15: 48 New
      0
      Is this squalor really going to fly? And if so, then this iron boomerang will often fall than take off, how many Chineses will die ...

      but in China, the demographic problem will be partially solved!
  25. Algor73
    Algor73 30 September 2013 11: 41 New
    +1
    "... and express their skepticism in the capabilities of China's aviation industry ..." Even 20 years ago, skepticism was expressed regarding all Chinese --- prom. And now? Soon, China will express its skepticism regarding both the American and the European, and God also knows whose --- prom.
  26. fero
    fero 30 September 2013 11: 58 New
    +1
    The Chinese are also sawing money ... that is not clear
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 30 September 2013 16: 15 New
      0
      There is such a bike that our two convicts in the area made a rotorcraft from the Druzhba chainsaw, and on it they freaked out through the fence. So I think if there is some truth in this, those two guys could make it if they wanted, and if possible out of the blue, more abruptly than the Chinese, why all this, to the fact that we have smart heads and there are developments, but there is no state support.