Is Russia a trembling creature, or does it have its right?

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Shenderovich is wildly indignant: for what did the Greenpeacers, who climbed onto the Prirazlomnaya platform, shut up in jail for two months? Russia is said to be a country of idiots, only idiots could “screw” these innocent pigeons, who were just joking, when they simply climbed onto a strategic Arctic object that they could not do at all.

And someone “just” got into his pocket, how would he react to it?

In our Criminal Code, there is a fair rule, in my opinion: when someone threatens with a pistol, it doesn’t matter if it’s a weapon or a dummy. If the threat was perceived realistically, then the attacker, even with a dummy, is obliged to ogresti fully for robbery.

But how to distinguish, at first glance, Greenpeace from terrorists? After all, the terrorists do not glue the sticker “We are terrorists!” On the contrary, they mow down just any visitors of the theater, the shop, “doctors without borders”, Greenpeace and so on. And therefore, any unauthorized entry to where it is not necessary, according to all laws and reason, should be qualified as an attempt at terrorism.

A simple reconciliation: would someone get on the ropes to a similar object in the worship of Shenderovich USA, would such scouts be shot immediately with automatic bursts or not? It is clear even to Shenderovich that they would have shot without a hitch!

But this is - States! They are allowed, for they are not a trembling creature, but the very, for our Shenderovichs, respect is very, very! Well, and Russia, therefore, must be clamped forever in the form of a trembling creature, which can be easily climbed with ropes and without ropes, and she in reply cannot utter a word!

I just made a noise about trying to capture the object, with a huge safety precaution, as a joke for its sake - and its liberal saviors are ready to strangle her for it!

Moreover, it is clear that if this amusing attack had not been beaten off and the jokers could have broken something on that platform, the reverse wind would have struck: our idiots cannot defend themselves even from Greenpeace!

As if Russia, obviously not the first righteous in the world, but not the last bastard, has some kind of original sin, for which it must of course be destroyed and finished. And she, according to the thoughts of those who finish off, still have to say thank you to them for this dobish!

And Shenderovich, it seems, is precisely this that is why he is most angry: why are these idiots, led by Putin, not bowing to his belt for his blessed attempt to powder them?
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  1. +63
    28 September 2013 08: 20
    only the Vasilyevs and Serdyukovs, walking around the boutiques, seem to be hinting that there is no court in Russia ... In China, they would have been shot for such "tricks" with the budget, but we have just not been awarded. This undermines trust and respect for the courts. If we punish everyone, not selectively. And then they coped with the greenpeace, and the embezzlers (including the military!) Are carried in limousines.
    1. +44
      28 September 2013 08: 36
      Quote: intsurfer
      and embezzlers (including the military one!) are carried in limousines.

      Well, with embezzlers, we have a complete free trade, I do not want to steal.
      But I can give advice on greenpeace! According to media reports, there are, in my opinion, a couple of Americans, the world's navels. It would be necessary to give the rest conditionally or at a minimum, but this "exceptional" (as Obama called his nation) should be slapped for 6-8 years and to us in MORDOVIA on Potma.
      Potom is a zone for foreigners. Soon they can be exchanged for our compatriots languishing in the democratic dungeons of America. Recall the same unfortunate BUT, then there is our pilot and someone else from the hackers. All of them were deported at the request of the United States from other countries or insolently exported by them!
      A dream of course, but a pity. So they would show the world who we are Tv -shivering or self-respecting state ...
      And would there be another lesson?
      1. DPN
        +3
        30 September 2013 22: 04
        Good advice, the border is not touched as we were once told, this must be declared to the whole world, so that later we do not have to make excuses, and for a deadline.
        Do not *** do near the Russian borders and do not give a damn to your people as it was with the Korean plane, no one called him.
    2. +9
      28 September 2013 08: 54
      Quote: intsurfer
      only the Vasilyevs and Serdyukovs, walking around the boutiques, seem to be hinting that there is no court in Russia ... In China, they would have been shot for such "tricks" with the budget, but we have just not been awarded. This undermines trust and respect for the courts. If we punish everyone, not selectively. And then they coped with the greenpeace, and the embezzlers (including the military!) Are carried in limousines.

      Wait a little more awards.
      1. +21
        28 September 2013 11: 19
        Putin’s cover of Serdyukov and his thieves is his main mistake.
        1. +2
          28 September 2013 18: 26
          If he harbored, the information would not have gone further than SK.
        2. DPN
          0
          30 September 2013 22: 12
          This is not a mistake, but politics; they don’t give up their own.
      2. Current 72
        +3
        28 September 2013 17: 25
        I agree with you! And their time will come to answer, every vegetable must ripen for consumption.
        1. +10
          28 September 2013 18: 55
          Quote: Current 72
          a vegetable must ripen for consumption.

          So the GrynPysovtsy ripened.
          After all, a year ago they were already in these parts and also tried to hooligan.
          So what ?
          They brought out little white hands and sent them home. The guys did not understand. Now they’ll wind up two months in a pre-trial detention center, and then _ How the card will fall! It may also break off a substantial period if their bosses are not enlightened.
          Pusikov was sent to the zone, now the femins in Geyrop hang out in the countries of the onset of tolerance.
          bully
      3. +1
        29 September 2013 07: 17
        Yes, there is an order for VO for the breeders recently discussed this fact
    3. +4
      28 September 2013 09: 13
      Quote: intsurfer
      .... but we have not just been awarded.


      Well, how not awarded?
      Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of January 10, 2012 N 51 “On Awarding with State Prizes of the Russian Federation”
      For the great contribution to the development of the oil refining complex, the achieved labor successes and many years of conscientious work
      Order of Honor
      VASILYEVA Evgeny Nikolaevna - Head of the Office of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.
    4. +11
      28 September 2013 09: 13
      Quote: intsurfer
      If you punish everyone, not selectively.

      At all critical stages in the development of states, representatives of the "FIFTH COLUMN" have always moved forward! They were assigned the primary role of undermining the foundations of the state ... or, as they say today, "rocking the boat." So in RUSSIA the "grand-recipients", for a reason, are actively "fighting" for the purity of either democracy or "crap" ... , LEGAL NIHILISM, whether it is DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS or the same GREENPEAS, the more authoritative our state will be. And defenders of offenders, OUR FIFTH COLUMN, the same must be attached to these madmen. Then they, too, will understand that in addition to the possibilities, under the guise of freedom of speech, to throw mud at their country, there is also the OBLIGATIONS TO SUPPORT AND PROTECT THEIR COUNTRY!
      1. +22
        28 September 2013 13: 15
        KazaK Bo
        Greenpeace workers are by no means crazy, just remember the history of this CIA branch, look at its leaders, who formally removed the epaulettes, inquire about those who finance them, and everything becomes clear. This is a common organization like PMCs. acting where the USA does not want to advertise its participation, normal agents, and they need to be planted all to the maximum. If the Americans give ours for forty years on the basis of a couple of phrases, the pronunciation of which was provoked by their special services and was not accompanied by ANY actions, then imagine how much they would give if they tried to capture something with the same Makar.
        1. +13
          28 September 2013 14: 40
          As if Russia, obviously not the first righteous person in the world, but also not the last bastard, has some kind of original sin, for which it must certainly be destroyed and finished off.

          Quote: smile
          Greenpeace workers are a regular organization like PMCs. acting where the USA does not want to advertise its participation,


          "THE MAIN FIRST SIN" of Russia - its territory and raw materials. So they arrange provocations, with military exercises at the same time, in the same area. And the fact that the Green Pisces are pseudo-ecological terrorists, under cover, is so clear - don't go to grandma.

          And about the landing and the subsequent exchange of terrorists on captured, by lawlessness, Russians - a very interesting idea.
          1. +1
            28 September 2013 15: 31
            Quote: skeptic
            "THE MAIN FIRST SIN" of Russia - its territory and raw materials.

            The main original sin of Russia is that it is)). And with it there is historical memory and the OPPORTUNITY to change everything)).
          2. +1
            1 October 2013 12: 49
            Greenpeace is an ordinary political prostitute, led by one of Hitler's distant relatives - Rothschild, a famous oil company that destroys the Gulf of Mexico. Led by natural subordination is the deputy chief of CIA. So they want to destroy the main investor and taxpayer of Russia - Gazprom and oil companies. Everything is simple.
        2. +4
          28 September 2013 16: 50
          Yes, in general, these Greenpeace people had to be drowned in the waters of the Arctic Ocean. But the excitement was strong, they did not manage to save everything, all the problems. Next time they will not climb, they will keep at a distance.
      2. Misantrop
        +4
        30 September 2013 10: 06
        Quote: KazaK Bo
        representatives of the "FIFTH COLUMN"! They were assigned the primary role of undermining the foundations of the state ... or, as they say today, "rocking the boat."
        In this particular case, this is not even the point. Let's digress from politics for a moment and remember WHAT this object is and WHY is there such strict access? A random spark and ... what's next? A torch, a heap of corpses, the region's ecology ruined for decades and wild financial losses. And who would be guilty, guess three times? These creative downs or a country that "failed to provide work at a HAZARDOUS OBJECT"? And, like after Chernobyl, there is again a cry around the planet that "these savages must be isolated from high technologies" ...
    5. Rusich51
      +6
      28 September 2013 09: 57
      Well, Greenpeace for this purpose was created by amers to keep the rebellious under the hood.
      1. coast
        +13
        28 September 2013 10: 32
        Greenpeace that the Gulf of Mexico came to us in oil, chemical shale is being corroded, fires at hazardous enterprises are also common. Prirazlomnaya is considered the most reliable and modern in the world. enrages amers as they give positions so I immediately call my rotten pack <greenpeace. alkaida. gay. crazy sinators. and nits my hand in the un>
      2. Dober
        +10
        28 September 2013 12: 32
        Quote: Rusich51
        Well, Greenpeace for this purpose was created by amers to keep the rebellious under the hood.


        Quote: Starover_Z
        And where were Shenderovich with Greenpeace


        “There is a lot of criticism of GreenPeace, even among quite decent intellectuals. One cannot help but wonder why no one has seen Greenpeace ecologists in the Gulf of Mexico or near Fukushima? In contrast to their frenzied activity against Russian companies in the Arctic. British Petroleum is a democratic company. uses the most advanced technologies to protect nature and a priori can not harm the environment.(wooh how ...)
        Secondly, BP paid a huge multi-billion dollar fine and is in great sorrow. sad It was simply inhumane to conduct various environmental campaigns when the managers of the company had such grief. Understand and forgive. Moreover, if Grispeis himself receives a small gesheft from the oil giant. This allows him to lobby the ban on nuclear energy with tripled force, even in some democratic countries. After all, this reduces the revenue of British Petroleum."

        Leo Sharansky. The most dissident dissident. /

        And here he is already making us funny -
        "And I call on all honest and decent people, gays and democratic journalists to say their firm no to the antics and provocations of the KGB gang. Let's join hands, friends. We will not forget, we will not forgive. Greenpeace - will. And as a sign of support for brave eco-activists and democratic photographer Sinyakov, like all free media today, I also put a black square instead of the photo of today's post. After all, one must not live by lies. For your and our freedom. I demand compensation. Karlamov vats. In the sky Bonner, on the land of Khaikin, in the water of the Sixth navy. At the picket Feldman, in Montenegro Navalny. We are in power here. So we will win! "

        lev-sharansky2.livejournal.com/208306.html
        1. v.lyamkin
          +5
          30 September 2013 06: 36
          In the Gulf of Mexico you can get dirty, in Fukushima you can pick up something. Why go there. And the presence in the Arctic is still, apparently, environmentally safe. Yes, and the owners "face" are in command.
        2. +1
          30 September 2013 12: 56
          did he say so?
      3. +1
        28 September 2013 16: 54
        Only you can’t keep us under the hood, we are Russians, we have a different mentality, not like that of the Americans, we will find a way out everywhere. tongue laughing
    6. Gari
      +5
      28 September 2013 10: 08
      Quote: intsurfer
      that there is no court in Russia ...

      Dear not only in Russia, there are no courts throughout the CIS space, or rather courts, that is, but which ones, for whom. In my opinion, the most corrupt of all state bodies.
      1. +13
        28 September 2013 10: 36
        Quote: Gari
        , there are no ships throughout the CIS-space

        Gari do not amuse yourself with illusions. In the democratic countries of the West, justice is just like the drawbar, where you turned and left. Here is an example of justice in the USA. http://muz4in.net/news/pravosudie_v_ssha_dlja_tekh_kto_ispytyvaet_illjuzii/2012-
        11-04-30756
        Well, if on the topic, then everyone did the right thing, I would have spent these Greens with double standards as pirates, others will not be mischievous. It’s good to wipe my feet about Russia, number failed.
        1. Gari
          +8
          28 September 2013 10: 53
          Quote: Sirocco
          Gari don't flatter yourself with illusions,


          Believe me, I am not amusing, and the West is by no means a standard for me.

          Quote: Sirocco
          It’s good to wipe feet on Russia, the number did not go through.

          But I completely agree with this.
          Especially who these Greenpeople are in fact I already wrote. Who they work for, what tasks they perform.

          They put him in jail for two months, and they should be sent to Siberia for a long time somewhere, just there in the taiga, they sawed them, they seem to be for the environment, let's see how they will fight in robes against deforestation.
          1. +3
            28 September 2013 11: 39
            Quote: Gari
            , it’s just there in the taiga that they belong, at the logging, they’re kind of for the environment

            That's just about the forest, about the taiga, Greenpeace is silent, and why? For Russia, this is a much more serious problem (nightly barbaric logging). So your words, yes to our humane court in the ears, Let the Greens show themselves, in the defense of green spaces.
            1. Gari
              +3
              28 September 2013 14: 34
              [quote = Sirocco] For Russia, this is a much more serious problem (nightly barbaric logging). [/ quote
              I know the descendants wrote, this is a problem, a big problem, they cut down at the root, I saw it on TV, but here Greenpeace’s campaign is beneficial, in the interests of their owners
              1. +3
                29 September 2013 02: 05
                Quote: Gari
                big problem, cut down at the root, seen on TV,

                You saw on TV, I see this disgrace periodically, and I do not see this end and edge. After all, no one thinks about villages, and they survive as they can, without thinking about the consequences. At such a pace, it will be like in the Sahara desert.
            2. +3
              29 September 2013 07: 05
              Quote: Sirocco
              Quote: Gari
              , it’s just there in the taiga that they belong, at the logging, they’re kind of for the environment

              That's just about the forest, about the taiga, Greenpeace is silent, and why? For Russia, this is a much more serious problem (nightly barbaric logging). So your words, yes to our humane court in the ears, Let the Greens show themselves, in the defense of green spaces.

              Today, a cubic meter of hardwood reaches a cost of up to $ 800 ...

              Do you think healthy men living in nearby towns and villages, where logging enterprises have left, and the latest laws forbid them not only to harvest their own forest, but even freely gather wild plants, should eat the last without salt and feed their children with the same ?

              I'm smiling...
              When a few million cubic meters of overripe timber die at the root every year, then no one cares about the loss of state ...
              And the peasants prepared several hundred cubes to improve their budget, then they immediately fell into the category of villains?

              Let the man go into the forest! Let him feed his family with dignity.
              1. Gari
                0
                29 September 2013 13: 12
                Quote: Tartary
                Let the man go into the forest! Let him feed his family with dignity.

                Here no one even has the right to argue, family is the most important thing, and a man for that and a man who is obliged to watch his family with dignity.
      2. +1
        28 September 2013 17: 01
        And amers, which is better courts? They are guilty without guilt. How many large terms were given for our fellow citizens for what.
    7. true love
      +4
      28 September 2013 10: 09
      When Russia becomes independent, then the courts will become independent.
      1. +1
        28 September 2013 10: 39
        Quote: true love
        When Russia becomes independent, then the courts will become independent.

        When patriots will be in power in Russia, then everything will be ...
        1. +1
          28 September 2013 15: 38
          Quote: Semyon Semyonich
          When patriots will be in power in Russia

          Russia is big)). And if in the Kremlin we seem to have a patriot in power, then the chairmen of the government and top officials in the regions, as a rule, are enemies)).
          1. Yarosvet
            +2
            28 September 2013 20: 05
            Quote: ctepx
            [And if in the Kremlin we have in power, it seems, a patriot
            Curious - on what is this illogical and unproven statement based? laughing

            then the chairmen of the government and top officials in the regions are usually enemies)).
            Just super ...
            1. 0
              28 September 2013 20: 11
              Quote: Yarosvet
              Curious - on what is this illogical and unproven statement based?

              Respected!).
              And you do not know that presidents change from time to time)).
              Yes, and that laws are not always written by us?)).
              1. +6
                28 September 2013 20: 31
                Quote: ctepx
                And you do not know that presidents change from time to time)).

                Yes well-o-o-o-o ... Are they changing? Is it true? And when was the last time our president was not a character with the pseudonym "Tandem"?
                Quote: ctepx
                Yes, and that laws are not always written by us?)).

                Well, Fedorovism begins about the occupation, the constitution written by the Americans and the leader of the liberation movement Putin, who for some reason did not rush to free Russia.
                When the GDP wanted to be president not for two terms of 4 years, but for two terms of 6 years each, the constitution "written by the Americans" in the necessary part was changed with no ordinary ease. They were not afraid of American anger. And for some reason the constitution prevents us from subordinating the central bank or introducing ideology to our rulers.
                1. 0
                  28 September 2013 21: 15
                  Quote: Normal
                  The constitution, "written by the Americans," in the necessary part was changed with an unusual ease.

                  Duck and right now at the UN, with ease extraordinary, signed chemical disarmament)).
                  What makes you think that the constitution under Putin was changed?
                  1. +1
                    28 September 2013 21: 52
                    Quote: ctepx
                    What makes you think that the constitution under Putin was changed?

                    Pretending to be?
                    1. -2
                      28 September 2013 22: 13
                      Quote: ctepx
                      Duck and right now at the UN, which was easily unusual, signed chemical disarmament)). How did you get the idea of ​​changing the constitution under Putin?

                      Quote: Normal
                      Pretending to be?

                      Well, the UN has signed everything)). They believe that they will condemn Assad, ours hope to pull up the Saudis.
                      And then there was a term of presidency)).
                      We will beat them now)). Judging by their stupidity)). Although, chur me!)).
                2. 0
                  28 September 2013 22: 06
                  Quote: Normal
                  Fedorovism begins about the occupation, written by the American constitution

                  It does not begin)). And we will change the constitution)).
              2. Yarosvet
                +1
                30 September 2013 17: 58
                Quote: ctepx
                And you do not know that the presidents change from time to time))
                And you do not know that the Cabinet is changing (or rather shuffled)?

                Yes, and that laws are not always written by us?)).
                But they are always accepted by a majority vote of the Duma (that is, EP - the party from which our presidents have been going to the polls for the past 9 years), and are always signed by the current president.
                1. -2
                  30 September 2013 18: 22
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  But always accepted by a majority vote of the Duma

                  We are aware that there is not a single pro-Russian party in the State Duma of the Russian Federation)). There are only some pro-Russian personalities. Probably)).
                  1. Yarosvet
                    +1
                    1 October 2013 16: 00
                    Quote: ctepx
                    We are aware that there is not a single pro-Russian party in the State Duma of the Russian Federation)). There are only some pro-Russian personalities. Probably)).

                    Awesome logic.

                    Now the question is - will the party, without being pro-Russian, unanimously nominate a pro-Russian presidential candidate for election?
                    1. 0
                      1 October 2013 20: 46
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      will the party, without being pro-Russian, unanimously nominate a pro-Russian presidential candidate for election?

                      Will, if kept in a stall)). And do not let others eat oats)).
                      1. Yarosvet
                        0
                        1 October 2013 21: 44
                        Quote: ctepx
                        Will, if kept in a stall)). And do not let others eat oats)).

                        Well, just awesome! laughing

                        That is, the president should not let someone else eat oats from this party, despite the fact that he is going to the polls from this party ?!

                        Awesome logic! laughing
                      2. -1
                        1 October 2013 22: 10
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        That is, the president should not let others eat oats from this party

                        Moreover, then he didn’t let someone else’s oats eat - prime minister)).
                        And the president, by the way. after a long consultation with the Americans, put forward a condition on his future premiership)). Violating all the patsansky agreements)).
                        Or pretend that all infinite violations during the elections to the State Duma are not Medvedev’s carte blanche!)). And he didn’t take 50%!
                        And, instead of leaving, as agreed, with the support of the SGA offered himself to the premiere)).
                        Respected)). Or you are not quite swimming in this)). Or do you like demagoguery as a product)). I do not like)).
                      3. Yarosvet
                        +1
                        2 October 2013 11: 05
                        You, Oleg, have a wild fantasy, not supported by either facts or logic.

                        First, the EBN, with the filing of Kudrin and Chubais, raises Putin to riches from the mud (who, along with Chubais and Kudrin, worked for the neoliberal Sobchak, and whom the Petersburgers kicked in the ass, I must assume for good work)

                        Then, apparently not without the participation of Berezovsky, a United Russia is created under Putin, whose function is to pass through the Duma the laws necessary for the group represented by Putin (while the EBN receives an indulgence in the form of an unconstitutional 12-FZ, and almost all more or less independent "oligarchs" quietly dump abroad).

                        In the process of the above, Vova drags his children to Moscow, including Dima, who first makes him a prime minister, and then makes Dima an advertisement, as a result of which those who now swear at him in the presidential election.

                        Before the elections on the 12th, a fairy tale appears, spread by Chubais' loyal ally Fedorov, from which it follows that the Cossack-Putin is staunchly fighting the liberals, whom he himself brought to power and appointed to positions (as confirmation of this struggle, Putin's attempt to "nationalize" the Central Bank and Putin's repeal of the law "on production sharing agreements" - of course, there has never been an attempt or a cancellation, but people like you prefer to believe rather than verify the information)

                        What is interesting - despite the events described by me, despite their system and logic, despite the common policy for Medvedev and Putin (the essence of which is the privatization of state property, cutting social programs and integrating the country into the global economy as a raw materials appendage and a space cab) - you, and such as you continue to invent consultations with the Americans, the terms of the premiership, the boys' agreements, etc. the nonsense that you have to justify from your finger with sucked-up speculations, which is not surprising - there are no facts confirming such fantasies in nature.
                      4. 0
                        2 October 2013 20: 46
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        There are no facts confirming such fantasies in nature.

                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        consultations with amerikosy, conditions on premiership, patsansky arrangements, etc. nonsense

                        They just have the facts)). You can know or not know about them, they can be trusted or not believe, they can be interpreted)).
                        What you described is a retelling of the media-shnyh stuffing and analysis. And, which is typical, these media are entirely "handshake")). Sometimes - commercial (I am aware that we have no other media in Russia).
                        What I am describing is a rethinking of the same media-shnyh stuffing and analysis based on simple facts and comparisons. I was just lucky in life, I have a lot of simple facts and significant experience of practical "grassroots" work in conditions of multilevel information countermeasures)).
                        As for your logical chain, before the words
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        First EBN with the filing of Kudrin and Chubais raises from the mud to riches Putin
                        just enter, for example:
                        after the forces of a part of high-ranking representatives of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the KGB, who had not resigned themselves to defeat, introduced Putin into the structures of the community of political strategists who were developing the contours of a "controlled" Russia, the following happened:
                        hereinafter)).
                        Moreover, this media fact that I just cited has a lot more common sense than the one you quoted
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        fairy tale, carried by the faithful ally of Chubais Fedorov
                        Mass media fact)).
                      5. +1
                        2 October 2013 22: 04
                        Quote: ctepx
                        They just have the facts)). You can know or not know about them, they can be trusted or not believe, they can be interpreted)).

                        And you can invent them, what are you doing here since you
                        many simple facts and significant experience of practical "grassroots" work in conditions of multi-level information countermeasures))
                        That is, the experience of demagoguery, lies, and sucking out of the finger "simple facts" that are not facts by definition.
                        Here is an example of the simplest demagogy:
                        Quote: ctepx
                        What you described is a retelling of media stuffing and analysis .....
                        What I am describing is a rethinking of the same media stuffing and analysis based on simple facts and comparisons.

                        Bravo! You mean rethinking, and Yarosvet retells. Applause....
                        But I just think that you're just lying. The level of arguments of Yarosvet and your arguments are not comparable.
                        Yarosvet cites facts, articles of laws and the constitution, and you;
                        consultations with amerikosami ..... patsansky agreements))
                        and tales for the weak-minded like this one:
                        after the forces of a part of high-ranking representatives of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the KGB, who did not reconcile themselves to defeat, introduced Putin into the structures of the community of political strategists who were developing the contours of a "controlled" Russia,
                        About which besides you, and the same as you "real boys" with experience
                        practical "grassroots" work in conditions of multilevel information countermeasures)).
                        that is, patsian graters for seeds with beer, no one heard anything. But this does not matter, but you can pretend that you know something that is not known to a wide circle of observers. But what about? After all
                        You are in this ..... swimming)).
                        Absolutely ....
                        Continue ... Just don’t stuff your opponents with "it", what you are swimming in. Not everyone loves this substance ...
                      6. 0
                        3 October 2013 20: 45
                        Quote: Normal
                        That is, the experience of demagogy

                        Why did you decide that my practical experience of "grassroots" work has anything to do with information? No, he only has experience
                        Quote: ctepx
                        in conditions of multi-level informational counteraction)).

                        Quote: Normal
                        Bravo! You mean rethinking, and Yarosvet retells.

                        Well, yes, since Yarosvet repeats what the media write, and what I repeat, the media, if they write, then very briefly)).
                        Quote: Normal
                        Yarosvet cites facts, articles of laws and the constitution, and you

                        So I, lightly bring an article of our Constitution, namely: Article 13 Clause 2, in the presence of which any other state would have devoured its guts long ago.
                        Quote: Normal
                        Just don’t stuff your opponents with this, what you are swimming in.

                        Pseudo-quote taken out of context)).
                        Is there a conscience ?!
                      7. Yarosvet
                        +1
                        3 October 2013 12: 35
                        Quote: ctepx
                        Facts they just are
                        If they are, then they should be stated, and not talk about what they are.

                        they can be trusted or not believed
                        They can neither be trusted nor not be trusted - they are FACTS, in other words, objectively existing reality. They can be interpreted only separately from each other, the facts folded into the logical system are unambiguous.

                        What you described is a retelling of media stuffing and analysis
                        What I am describing is a rethinking of the same media stuffing and analysis based on simple facts and comparisons.
                        Many words, facts - 0.

                        in conditions of multilevel informational counteraction
                        Could it be on the Oka planet? laughing

                        after the forces of the reconciled with defeat part of senior representatives of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the KGB
                        You will prove the existence of this part, decide on the names, decide on the reasons why the "winners" did not suppress this part, prove the fact of Putin's introduction, prove that this group introduced him, prove that he was not slipped to this group by the group of "winners" as a double agent , prove that he did not go over to the side of the "winners", etc. etc.
                        In the meantime, if you haven’t done this, do not suck out unprovable conjectures from your finger and familiarize yourself with the principle of Okamma Razor - it will suddenly help.

                        Moreover, this media fact
                        Was it a FACT ?! belay, that is, this nonsense has been proven, and the evidence has been attested in one way or another? laughing

                        Your riveted is a good illustration of an article about network "idiots" - available on VO, I recommend laughing
                      8. 0
                        3 October 2013 21: 14
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        If they are, then they should be stated

                        Not necessary at all)). More often, just - it is impossible)). And sometimes it’s enough to indicate their (facts) presence)). We don’t write history, but just try to comprehend what was written for us)).
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        They can neither be trusted nor trust - they are FACTS
                        Well, why is it possible)). After all, the facts are for us, and we have free will)).
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        You will prove the existence of this part, decide on the names, decide on the reasons why the "winners" did not suppress this part, prove the fact of Putin's introduction

                        Here it is)) ...
                        This may be true or false)). In case this is not true, something can be proved)). In case this is true ...
                        And imagine for a second that this is so)). And what would you do?
                        If you are for Russia, of course)).
                      9. Yarosvet
                        0
                        4 October 2013 11: 53
                        Quote: ctepx
                        Not necessary at all)). More often, just - it is impossible)). And sometimes it’s enough to indicate their (facts) presence)). We don’t write the story, but just try to comprehend what was written for us)
                        Oh yes - verbiage in half with an abstraction - as is familiar. laughing
                        Oleg - do you have facts confirming your version?

                        After all, the facts are for us, and we have free will))
                        Not - facts in themselves, without us. We can only state them.

                        In case this is not true, something can be proved)
                        Are you not drunk for an hour? It’s just interesting - how can one prove a lie, that is, make an objectively non-existent objectively existing? laughing

                        And imagine for a second that this is so)). And what would you do?
                        How "SO"? Whose place do you propose to me to become?
                        Once again - do you have facts confirming your point of view on the occupation of the Russian Federation by amers, the secret work of Vova on a group of patriotic nomenclature, the very existence of this group, etc.?
                        If there are - state, if not - end unprovenly to tremble.

                        So I, lightly bring an article of our Constitution, namely: Article 13 Clause 2, in the presence of which any other state would have devoured its guts long ago
                        This is generally a masterpiece - it seems that this is all your essence laughing

                        Oleg, before writing about anything, first you need to understand what exactly you are going to write about: ideology is a system of values. Recognition of ideological diversity and type "ban" on state ideology is also an ideology, but spelled out in the Constitution and therefore having the status of the Basic Law, that is, it is a state ideology laughing

                        If there is an article in the Constitution of any state similar to part 2 of Article 13 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, this gut state will not be consumed due to the fact that part 2 of Article 13 is not anti-state or even bad - it is just crazy laughing
      2. Yarosvet
        0
        28 September 2013 20: 00
        Quote: true love
        When Russia becomes independent, then the courts will become independent.

        Please tell us what Russia is dependent on, on whom, for what reason, and what prevents it from becoming independent?
        1. +2
          28 September 2013 20: 06
          Quote: Yarosvet
          than Russia is dependent on whom. on what terms. and what prevents her from becoming independent?

          Russia is dependent (extremely) on world oil and gas prices (respectively, on the purchasing power of Europe and America), as well as market conditions. Expressed in trends from crises, new suppliers and energy-saving technologies. These are all things that Russia cannot influence in any way, but only react


          Quote: Yarosvet
          on what terms.

          The conditions are simple - whether they want to buy at the proposed price (which is budgeted) or not, that's all


          Quote: Yarosvet
          . and what prevents her from becoming independent?

          The backward production base and the inability to process its own resources by selling the final product. (this is not only about energy carriers), but also intellectual property.
          1. -1
            28 September 2013 20: 13
            Quote: atalef
            Russia is dependent (extremely) on world prices for ...

            You do not understand what the conversation is about, or are you lying around?
            1. +1
              28 September 2013 20: 19
              Quote: Cynic
              You do not understand what the conversation is about, or are you lying around?

              I’m probably fooling around, but is the answer correct or not?
              1. +1
                28 September 2013 20: 31
                Quote: atalef
                I guess I’m felting Vanya

                Not sure, but for sure.
                Quote: atalef
                Is the answer correct or not?

                Sorry, but you
                do not distinguish worms from bubeys

                bully
          2. +2
            28 September 2013 23: 23
            Quote: atalef
            Russia is dependent (extremely) on world oil and gas prices (respectively, on the purchasing power of Europe and America)

            Norway is much more dependent on this. And is Norway an independent court or not?
          3. Yarosvet
            -1
            30 September 2013 17: 49
            Quote: atalef
            Everything you have written is obvious.

            Try to convey this to a true lover who sees the invisible hand of the states in all problems. laughing
    8. +7
      28 September 2013 10: 49


      Is Russia trembling?

      This is not a victory, but the battle is won!
      1. stranik72
        +3
        28 September 2013 13: 25
        Quote: SHILO
        This is not a victory, but the battle is won

        As for the battle, too, the question is, rather, just a tactical position before the battle is preferable here.
    9. AVV
      +3
      28 September 2013 13: 02
      Vasilieva must not be in a five-room apartment until the return of all the loot, but on Novaya Zemlya and with his friend Serdyukov, even if they take the Arctic together with the Greenpeace, they will remove it from the garbage !!!!
      1. +1
        28 September 2013 13: 53
        13th room .. at five she will die!
    10. 0
      28 September 2013 18: 46
      Quote: intsurfer
      that there is no court in Russia ..

      And the accomplices of Serdyukov don’t surrender, don’t surrender! There is no incriminating evidence in the embezzlement against him, no.
      Here's a joke of humor.
      Or do you have your own sources?
    11. 0
      28 September 2013 20: 11
      their embezzlers! they don’t put their own
    12. 0
      28 September 2013 21: 40
      intsurfer "This undermines the trust and respect for the courts ...."
      ---------------------------------------------------------------
      I would add here AND THE AUTHORITY VERTICAL TO ALL!
    13. +3
      28 September 2013 21: 47
      Quote: intsurfer
      only the Vasilyevs and Serdyukovs, walking around the boutiques, seem to be hinting that there is no court in Russia ... In China, they would have been shot for such "tricks" with the budget, but we have just not been awarded. This undermines trust and respect for the courts. If we punish everyone, not selectively. And then they coped with the greenpeace, and the embezzlers (including the military!) Are carried in limousines.

      You minus. The impunity of Taburetkin's company is no reason not to slap the Greenpeace in accordance with Russian law. Yes, and it is more important to drive out the rest of the pests and embezzlers from the state feeding service than to demand blood already expelled.
    14. +2
      29 September 2013 05: 53
      . This undermines the trust and respect for the courts. (((((TO AUTHORITY AS A WHOLE I would notice ...
    15. v.lyamkin
      0
      30 September 2013 06: 31
      Why didn't they get an award. Quite the opposite: Mrs. Vasilieva was awarded a government award in January 2012, it seems, the Order of the Badge of Honor. Although I am not sure about the name of the order, I did not consider it necessary to memorize it.
    16. rinat1955
      0
      30 September 2013 11: 32
      China is known for its extremely inventive executions of stealing officials, and the technology has been worked out for thousands of years ...
      Another question, and then China with it.
    17. +1
      30 September 2013 12: 11
      God forbid, the court will reach out to these creatures, but others who, under the guise of a struggle for nature, climb into our affairs, should not have it, they are somehow bypassing the Norwegian platforms, probably the "charitable" foundation will not approve the budget?
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  2. +7
    28 September 2013 08: 21
    So this is Shenderovich. What else is there to wait for?
    1. +6
      28 September 2013 10: 23
      Yesterday they told the anecdote. Rabinovich walks, sees the wallet lying around. Raised it, there is money. I counted it. "That's b .. not enough."
  3. +4
    28 September 2013 08: 21
    you could take it harder, or at least with the following.
    1. 0
      28 September 2013 08: 26
      No comments
      1. +6
        28 September 2013 10: 16
        Over time, Greenpeace just slipped into the category of another tool of the West, but in the Arctic now it’s not just happening. And to bring this record ten years ago is a deliberate manipulation of opinions and misleading people.
        1. +4
          28 September 2013 13: 23
          Mr.M
          It was originally created as their tool, created by the crusaders, led by the crusaders. for this purpose, specially resigned, was funded by US intelligence agencies. The tool was used against US enemies, and in competition with some companies of their allies. Sometimes they earn extra money on the side, if they pay. they get involved in a showdown between large TNCs.
          1. +4
            28 September 2013 14: 02
            Quote: smile
            It was originally created as their tool.

            Exactly! Otherwise, as a tool or a tool for "twisting hands" and will not name ...

            "Dyba" is a long-standing means of reprisals against competitors and dissidents in "Western civilization."
          2. +1
            28 September 2013 19: 38
            Quote: smile
            It was originally created as their tool, created by the crusaders, headed ...

            If so, now it’s essentially a Rockefeller office, but it started as usual _ We wanted the best, but it turned out as always.
            They did not work against the CCCP and the countries of the socialist camp, and then the whole West merged in a single rush against them.
            Remember as french specialty jerked Grynpyssovsky rainbow warrior? Hardly the crushers would have allowed the French to do this.
            So all this
            No politics, just business.

            Rockefeller and others like them not only to the crush, but also to all their specialists Bosko breaks if they climb into his field of activity.
            wink
      2. +7
        28 September 2013 13: 27
        Apollo
        But the phrase is torn out of their context. We do not know to whom, under what circumstances, and why Pu said so. Perhaps he had to flatter someone, or pretend to be white and fluffy. And far from always, any president has the right to express his real opinion. I doubt that GeBeshnik can have a positive attitude towards the enemy’s special services tool ... albeit probable ...
      3. +3
        28 September 2013 15: 41
        Quote: Apollon
        No comments

        And Putin’s eyes are so cunning, cunning)).
      4. +3
        28 September 2013 18: 56
        Putin is a politician. But the politician is the master of his word, he gave the word himself, he took it back! smile These are the realities ...
        1. Yarosvet
          -1
          28 September 2013 20: 07
          Quote: bot.su
          Putin is a politician. But the politician is the master of his word, he gave the word himself, he took it back!
  4. +8
    28 September 2013 08: 24
    What are you trying to prove to these Shenderovichs, it's useless, they all perfectly understand. Here, as in a joke - "Did you order a fight? - No. Not e..no - paid!"
  5. +15
    28 September 2013 08: 30
    it’s just necessary to punish these nature lovers in full - for at least two years. I think everyone understands that the stock is registered-let them get what they deserve.
    1. +5
      28 September 2013 13: 29
      awg75
      Which two? For such jokes with hijacking an airplane they give it to the fullest in all countries — this joke was no less dangerous. To the fullest.
    2. Current 72
      +1
      28 September 2013 17: 45
      For this, Greenpeople must be given a full program, at least ten years, by law !!!
  6. +14
    28 September 2013 08: 33
    If it weren’t Shenderovich, but let’s say some kind of Petrov, after this article I would have decided that he was definitely Shenderovich
    1. 0
      30 September 2013 12: 17
      Petya Petrov and Ivan Ivanov in the internet darkness, they only write on a carbon copy and sometimes it’s strange somehow, sort of right, but they won’t even write Russian from a big hangover, not that mentality.
  7. +10
    28 September 2013 08: 36
    Good morning! hi Well what can I say, he already sent Putin to resign, he spoke out against the pedophilia law, now Greenpeace. Defender of the humiliated and offended, and for what only TEFI was given to him? stop
    The Greenpeace would have heard it - but once upon a time, they were in barbecue. laughing
  8. +7
    28 September 2013 08: 42
    This fulfilling Greenpeace order has long been time to stoke, as Putin said with respect. Interestingly, someone doubts that they work on order? (WELL BEYOND FULL IDIOTS) When they were created, then the goals were good, and then they sold out negative
    1. +1
      28 September 2013 13: 32
      Kolyan 2
      From the very beginning, it didn’t smell of any good goals, and they weren’t sold to anyone, they were created like that .... take an interest in the creators of this gang.
  9. Alikovo
    +3
    28 September 2013 08: 44
    I wonder if anyone wants these damn human rights defenders to be in Russia. I personally do not. I do not even understand what they are doing.
    1. +8
      28 September 2013 09: 31
      Quote: Alikovo
      I don’t understand what they are doing.


      Protect US interests in Russia.
  10. marat1000
    +5
    28 September 2013 08: 59
    Yes, even Apple calls Greenpeace "green terrorists." Greenpeace has long become an organization to raise money, not protect the green world. There are frank confessions of people who worked in this organization. If you don’t pay, you don’t get the brand on the product - green or even worse they will take it and write that they are using non-environmental materials, as they often do. For Europeans, the main thing is for Green to be all, supposedly clean, environmentally friendly, ridiculously
  11. +6
    28 September 2013 09: 02
    And in my opinion, it would be better to shoot and this vessel of the Greenpeace people would be allowed to go to the bottom. Our economic waters, near our strategic facility, an attempt to penetrate it .. Che is standing on ceremony? Another "terrorist" next time would think a thousand times. A precedent of firm will and tough decision would have been created. It's time to destroy the association with soft mattresses. Then, of course, in the west they would smelt for the sake of form, and that's all! Get used to, chtoli? Moreover, any Western sanctions are not applicable to modern Russia. Well, no how! Especially when he's right.
    1. +8
      28 September 2013 10: 15
      Quote: dimon-media
      shot and this vessel Greenpeace would have sunk

      What for? Under the law, an intruder vessel may be confiscated. That is what needs to be done. An extra icebreaker will not hurt our fleet.
      1. Airman
        0
        28 September 2013 10: 53
        Quote: lewerlin53rus

        What for? Under the law, an intruder vessel may be confiscated. That is what needs to be done. An extra icebreaker will not hurt our fleet.

        After 2 months they will be released with an apology.
        1. 0
          28 September 2013 15: 48
          Quote: Povshnik
          After 2 months they will be released with an apology.

          Maybe)). In the information war, the main thing is not action, but the threat of action)).
        2. Airman
          +1
          28 September 2013 16: 45
          Quote: Povshnik
          ]
          After 2 months they will be released with an apology.

          Minusers, after 2 months, or maybe earlier, the ship will be returned to the owner, and then we'll see who was right. They would be called to know who to contact.
      2. 0
        29 September 2013 22: 50
        This is an old, rusty trough of Rosmorport, even for inside port harbors it is not necessary for nothing ... Confiscate, put up for auction and if no one buys to sell on needles ...
    2. 77bor1973
      +2
      28 September 2013 12: 38
      At one time, the French drowned the Rainbow, $ 8.5 million compensation for the old seiner.
  12. Rezun
    +5
    28 September 2013 09: 14
    Here the "heroic" photographer "lit up" ...

    http://oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051612725#comments
  13. Borat
    +2
    28 September 2013 09: 20
    The heading is unsuccessful - to compare Russia with Raskolnikov?! ...
    1. Belogor
      +1
      28 September 2013 10: 38
      I agree with you 100%. I wanted to write the same, but you got ahead.
  14. +3
    28 September 2013 09: 22
    Who is Shvonderovich, and why does someone care about his "opinion".
  15. Valery Neonov
    +1
    28 September 2013 09: 50
    They covered it up for two months, that's good, but not enough. I hope they will feel all the "delights" of our system and the next time they will think "seven times" before taking the order. bully
  16. +2
    28 September 2013 09: 58
    Russia is a country of half measures.
    We don’t go to the end, we always stop halfway, leaving room for the enemy’s maneuver.
    Even recent events force the president to make excuses.
    Or take Georgia on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX, when after the well-known events we could renew the "reservoir" with clean water, but no, we left a fetid puddle stinking with every favorable wind towards Russia.
    For Russia, democratic values ​​are weaknesses, and the weak, as you know, are beaten and pecked.
  17. +1
    28 September 2013 10: 13
    I think it’s not at all appropriate to react to Shenderovich.
    Anyway, on this resource.
    1. Dober
      0
      28 September 2013 12: 05
      Quote: ando_bor
      I think it’s not at all appropriate to react to Shenderovich.
      Anyway, on this resource.

      good
      Place this "news" on the forum of sex therapists.
      Under the heading "How to quickly get excited from ..."
  18. +3
    28 September 2013 10: 14
    to talk in principle about the impudence of a prostitute named "Greenpeace" is one thing.
    but at the same time also mention in the press the rapist of mattresses - do not respect yourself ...
    who, this trickster will teach us?
    armpit mattress-station -the promised land !!!
  19. Vlad_Mir
    +1
    28 September 2013 10: 16
    Law is law! And he must be respected!
    1. Yarosvet
      0
      28 September 2013 20: 11
      Quote: Vlad_Mir
      Law is law! And he must be respected!

      Read the Constitution of the Russian Federation ...
  20. 0
    28 September 2013 10: 30
    <<< But this is the States! They are allowed, because they are not trembling, but most, for our Shenderovich family, respect, very, very much! Well, and Russia, therefore, should be clamped down forever in the form of a trembling creature, which can easily be climbed with ropes and without ropes, but she couldn't even utter a word in response! >>>
    This is what infuriates the Shvonderovichs paid for by the West and the similar liberal trash that Russia does not want to be a "trembling creature", gets rid of the habit of looking back to the West in its actions and acts on the basis of its interests and laws! And since the Russian government, obviously, does not consider it possible to cover up the activities of this trash from the 5th column (and it should), the best response to all this drooling and screaming from the gameokratic gateway would be simply not to notice them and calmly do their job!
  21. 0
    28 September 2013 11: 15
    Shenderovich is always dissatisfied with the desire of the Russian Federation to assert its rights, how come we are going against the states, and this is not good !!!
  22. +7
    28 September 2013 11: 54
    And where were Shenderovich and Greenpeace when the tower gushed with oil in the Gulf of Mexico? There is no need to protect nature? Or in Japan, the water after cooling the emergency reactor is poured into the ocean, are they not there yet?
    Greenpeace people are definitely puppets of the United States with such similar attitudes towards countries and world events!
  23. olviko
    +6
    28 September 2013 11: 54
    They did it right, everything is according to the law. And let Shenderovich rub Israel against how bad it is to seize other people's ships in neutral waters!
    "Israeli special forces conducted an operation to intercept the" Freedom Flotilla "of six vessels, in which at least 600 human rights defenders, most of them Turkish citizens, were sent to the blocked Palestinian enclave with humanitarian supplies. The number of victims of the Israeli special operation reached 19 people. Israelis confirm the deaths nine. "
    1. Yarosvet
      +1
      28 September 2013 20: 13
      Quote: olviko
      Correctly done, everything is according to the law

      Wow - they can when they want laughing
  24. HAM
    +1
    28 September 2013 12: 01
    How many screams there will be, as with "little bits", you'll see. They swung at the "sacred", at the paid "defenders".
  25. Crang
    -14
    28 September 2013 12: 44
    What a good president we have a. How honest he is. And what kind of bad and evil these damned USA are they? And if you think about it?
    There is the USA country. In the United States there is a government that only cares about its own country and its own people. All the rest of this US government simply does not care. The United States spits on all world agreements, spits on other countries, spits on the norms of morality and justice. Do you need to bomb a foreign country for some kind of your own benefit? No question - they are bombing. And as soon as it concerns the citizens of their own country, everything is quite honest and democratic. The policy of double standards: US citizens have one democracy, everyone else is another "democracy." Good or bad - it seems to be bad, BUT how are things with us?
    And with us with this "democracy", things are up to converselybut because much worse than in the USA. Judge for yourself - as soon as the matter concerns some kind of world foreign issues, other countries, other peoples - so our president is simply an ideal of honesty and justice. As soon as the matter concerns one’s country and one’s people, one immediately sees who is who. Democracy and justice immediately disappears somewhere, and what appears to be what the USA has when they bomb someone: stupid silence and silence, and against the background of this silence incredible savagery, cruelty, injustice and impudence are happening. Here are examples of democracy for their people:
    - November 27, 2012 - everyone remembers and will not forget. Spit in the face of the whole Russian people and showed that he is today.
    - completely calm, without bothering yourself with such trifles as referendum, he took and increased his presidential term from 4 to 6 years (the people, how would they choose him for 4 years, maybe he should be asked? - Is this the main principle of democracy?) So Hugo Chavez held a referendum on this issue and the people said their word. And our president decided not to bother with such trifles. Tomorrow the elections will be canceled altogether, and just the same, everything will be easy and simple.
    - about a huge tribute to the Caucasian bandits, at our expense, and at the same time, in fact, elevating them to the status of people of the first class, who can do everything and who will not be able to do anything for their lawlessness. Here is another sign of the bright "democracy" of our "fair" (on the issue of Syria) president.
    - about the dictatorship of the court, the very type of "independent" court, which judges as it should and it is not realistic to get any justice from it. Judges can do everything: imprison innocent people for life, release thugs and bandits, that is, commit the most serious crimes worse than Chakotilo and at the same time they will not get anything at all for it. Although everyone knows, but he is a judge - consider God to whom everything is possible. Against this background, Article 19, paragraph 2: The state guarantees the equality of the rights and freedoms of man and citizen regardless of gender, race, nationality, language, origin, property and official position, place of residence, religion, beliefs, affiliation with public associations, as well as other circumstances. It looks already just funny.
    - a ban on protests (to protest, whatever you do and even get together together is no longer possible). You can only rejoice and wipe yourself.
    - etc. etc. what we see now every day.
    So there are two opposite versions of democracy: the American version and the Russian version. Personally, the American version is closer to me, although I consider the United States to be our enemy. The article is called "Is Russia Trembling or Has Its Right?" For me personally, the answer is still obvious.
    1. stranik72
      +8
      28 September 2013 13: 35
      "And as soon as it concerns the citizens of their own country, everything is quite fair and democratic."
      Well, just remove the pinkish sneakers from under the nose. And without wine they planted and killed, about honest ships google from the realm of fantasy too, with a corresponding request, it will be very instructive for you, and the democracy there is also peculiar. And since I don’t give a damn about this fascist country called the USA, I think sooner or later it will drown in the blood that has been sucked from other nations. My country is much more important to me, but here I agree to dirt and stink enough, but there is an opportunity to fix it and this is already our task.
    2. 0
      28 September 2013 16: 07
      Quote: HAM
      quite calmly, without bothering himself with such trifles as a referendum, he took and increased his presidential term

      Are you talking about Medvedev? I respect)).
      Quote: Krang
      Personally, the American version is closer to me, even though I consider the United States to be our enemy.

      Do not flatter yourself)). Such an enemy must be earned))
    3. +1
      28 September 2013 18: 30
      Quote: Krang
      So there are two opposite versions of democracy: the American version and the Russian version. Personally, the American version is closer to me, although I consider the United States to be our enemy. The article is called "Is Russia Trembling or Has Its Right?" For me personally, the answer is still obvious.

      AND THIS IS WHOSE OPTION? Article 31 states that citizens have the right to assemble freely and without ......
      1. Crang
        -1
        28 September 2013 20: 00
        Exactly. At least one person understood what I mean.
    4. 0
      28 September 2013 20: 09
      Quote: Krang
      For me personally, the answer is so far obvious.

      You yourself, as part of Russia, know better.
      Yes
      1. Crang
        0
        28 September 2013 20: 16
        Well, in comparison with you, we are still very good.
        1. 0
          28 September 2013 20: 38
          Quote: Krang
          y compared to you we still very good.

          Excuse Your Majesty for unacceptable speculation.
          hi
  26. +7
    28 September 2013 12: 47
    It is necessary to equip each oil rig with Yakhont, the Carapace and the recognition system of their own alien ... The excuses are justifications for the weak, they would have drowned if there weren’t more hunters, let the obituaries print the west and answer the questions hanging in the air.
    Z.Y. There is nothing more to comment on here.
    1. 0
      28 September 2013 20: 14
      can immediately poplar-m put there? and then yachont, shell scale shallow
      1. +1
        28 September 2013 20: 21
        Quote: lonely
        can immediately poplar-m put there? and then yachont, shell scale shallow

        What for ?
        To oblige oilmen to pay for the duty of nuclear submarines at the towers, it will not be enough, let them order new ones into a pool!
        drinks
  27. avg
    +5
    28 September 2013 13: 04
    Every decent person, meeting Shenderovich, is simply obliged to give him a kick, or, if he is very well-mannered, say a couple of "warm words"
  28. rks5317
    +5
    28 September 2013 13: 25
    How long will the media offer us the opinion of SHENDEROVICH, ABRAMOVICH, YARD and other Ya..v ??? They (the media) generally do not have self-esteem or are 100% owned by the above ... EVICHI ??? Then give a complete boycott of the M / M media !!!
  29. KononAV
    -1
    28 September 2013 13: 27
    It’s time to shoot for a long time. Within the country and abroad.
  30. rks5317
    0
    28 September 2013 13: 30
    How long will the media feed us with the views of SHENDEROVICH, ABRAMOVICH, YARD, and others ... WHAT ??? Let Israel share their passions ... m opinion. RUSSIAN- DO NOT NEED US to know their opinion on any issue !!!
    1. German
      +2
      28 September 2013 14: 28
      what would successfully fight the enemy, you need to know and understand his ideology and opinion on certain issues!
  31. Troy
    0
    28 September 2013 13: 32
    Quote: rks5317
    How long will the media offer us the opinion of SHENDEROVICH, ABRAMOVICH, YARD and other Ya..v ??? They (the media) generally do not have self-esteem or are 100% owned by the above ... EVICHI ??? Then give a complete boycott of the M / M media !!!

    Until we cut them out or send them to their historical homeland.
  32. chushoj
    0
    28 September 2013 13: 47
    A station is a sensitive facility where people work, not a passage yard. Russian law is not appropriate here. An uninvited guest at the station is worse than Shenderovich.
  33. +1
    28 September 2013 13: 49
    I wonder how much Shenderovich’s position cost?
    Well, I don’t believe in such a devotion of our Jew to Greenpeace affairs. Moreover, this team was convicted a couple of times in upholding other people's interests, that is, it was an instrument of a strategy of influence.
    1. chushoj
      +3
      28 September 2013 14: 55
      At first glance it seems that the Shenderovichs were given an order and they are perverted. From my practice, I can say, but you will not believe, Shenderovich really do not understand literary images and legal laws. Their main task is to confuse the situation with the involvement of the most uneducated and primitive citizens, and to confront everyone with everyone so that they fight among themselves, and the Shenderovichs are divided by the devidents. Once again, they don’t understand either the meaning of the law or literary images, they take either physical strength or mass.
      1. +1
        28 September 2013 21: 50
        Quote: chushoj
        Shenderovich really do not understand literary images and legal laws. Their main task is to confuse the situation with the involvement of the most uneducated and primitive citizens,

        Let me disagree, I do not believe in stupid Jews.
        Most likely it looks like this somewhere ......
  34. +2
    28 September 2013 14: 05
    Let this Malay redeem the original sin of his ancestors. We ourselves will take care of ourselves. The actions of the border guards are legal. Keep it up!
  35. German
    +1
    28 September 2013 14: 23
    Well, why be surprised: only the surname already speaks quite frankly-SHENDEROVICH! or did you want to hear RUSSIA from it?
  36. +4
    28 September 2013 14: 56
    Very clearly defined by this organization, Julia Latynina - Greenpeace is Ecological Al Qaeda!
  37. 0
    28 September 2013 15: 17
    Shenderovich was honored, now they are talking about him on this resource
  38. kaktus
    0
    28 September 2013 15: 27
    Quote: antidot
    Shenderovich was honored, now they are talking about him on this resource


    that's it, free PR
  39. -1
    28 September 2013 15: 49
    Quote: ctepx
    Quote: Semyon Semyonich
    When patriots will be in power in Russia

    Russia is big)). And if in the Kremlin we seem to have a patriot in power, then the chairmen of the government and top officials in the regions, as a rule, are the enemies of Russia)).
  40. 0
    28 September 2013 16: 26
    Russian law enforcement agencies must bring this story to its logical conclusion with the attack on the offshore drilling rig by representatives of Greenpeace. There must be an investigation and there must be a trial. If this whole story ends in information hype, confidence in the Russian judiciary will fall even more (although there’s nowhere to fall ...)
  41. +1
    28 September 2013 16: 51
    "... the attacker, even with a dummy, is obliged to shovel in full for robbery." - gold words.
    And it’s time to ignore Shenderovich as dog excrement.
    1. 0
      28 September 2013 17: 35
      Quote: Klava
      It’s time to ignore Shenderovich as dog excrement.

      So this is difficult. Even by accident, if you step on, crush, there is little that is disgusting and you will smear, because it stinks godlessly.
  42. 0
    28 September 2013 18: 06
    Shenderovich? And who is it?
    1. 0
      28 September 2013 18: 22
      Quote: rotor
      Shenderovich? And who is it?

      very bad person however
  43. olviko
    0
    28 September 2013 18: 10
    The image of the West, as a defender of all rights and freedoms, has recently dimmed, especially in connection with Snowden and the events in Syria. To raise the image, we went off the beaten track, we urgently need some kind of provocation against Russia - for centuries this policy has been carried out, the dog was eaten in this matter. So the green letter decided to fall into this stream, to make its own contribution to the struggle against barbarian Russia, so to speak.
    1. Yarosvet
      0
      28 September 2013 20: 24
      Quote: olviko
      lately

      Thanks - neighing laughing
  44. 0
    28 September 2013 18: 16
    It will be a big mistake if these Greenpeace workers get off easily. They should be given the maximum time possible. I am very afraid that they would not be sent home by the honest word of their authorities that they would be spanked a little and severely threatened with a finger.
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  46. GREAT RUSSIA
    0
    28 September 2013 19: 05
    These activists give in. Bitch children. Why don't they do it on the drilling platforms of Norway? Why don't they go to Qatar and do the same there? Creatures. And Qatar then barbarically pumps gas out of the ground. Why don’t they do it in America? Let these creatures be silent. And let them get a decent punishment. am
  47. coserg 2012
    0
    28 September 2013 19: 47
    Shenderovich, if so cool, tell me the amount that you paid, soo ... ah.
  48. +2
    28 September 2013 20: 00
    Oh yeah! It was not without Putin. It was he who, probably, organized the defense of the tower from Greenpeace. Maybe it’s better to plant Putin for eight years Shenderovich, but not one than Kvachkov? So no, the Shenderovichs everywhere are pushing up easily and not forcibly, not at all fearing for the consequences
  49. +1
    28 September 2013 20: 19
    Is Russia trembling, or has its right?
    The article is basically sensible. But. We all know who first expressed this idea. And in whose mouth she put it ... She is drawn to a complete provocation. But I hope that I just moved over ... That after 12 hours of work in the rain and cold, an elderly person is excusable ... Forgive the Author! But the name greatly alarmed me ...
    1. +1
      28 September 2013 20: 44
      Quote: retired
      But the name made me very alert.

      Yes, the name is meaningful, but also meaningful.
      Fyodor Mikhailovich liked to wrap up such-and-such a type about a baby's tear.
  50. soldier's grandson
    0
    28 September 2013 20: 38
    why do we need RUSSIA to reckon with all kinds of fleas such as greenpeace, when a flea bites it you need to press it and kick to the side
  51. +1
    28 September 2013 20: 50
    Quote: And Shenderovich, it seems, is precisely this that is most enraged: why don’t these people, led by their Putin, bow to his waist for his blessed attempt to grind them into dust?
    I have read these lines from the author many times. I didn't understand the humor. The fact that there was a provocation on the offshore platform is a no brainer. Maybe have a drink to understand the article...?
  52. 0
    28 September 2013 21: 02
    Quote: Ivanovich47
    Maybe have a drink to understand the article...?

    Already...By the way, a Ukrainian product...With pepper and honey...Good bastard!
    1. 0
      28 September 2013 21: 08
      Quote: retired
      By the way, a Ukrainian product...With pepper and honey...Good bastard!

      Good! That's vodka! 3 PEPPERS!
  53. malikszh
    0
    28 September 2013 21: 47
    Quote: Rusich51
    Well, Greenpeace for this purpose was created by amers to keep the rebellious under the hood.


    Agree. Why are they Greenpeace people, if they worry about the environment so much, why don’t they go on strike in the Caspian Sea!? There, at the request of the United States, he is testing Russia's reaction!
  54. +1
    28 September 2013 21: 51
    "Shenderovich is wildly indignant:"
    Rjunimagu.
  55. +4
    28 September 2013 22: 09
    Quote: intsurfer
    only the Vasilyevs and Serdyukovs, walking around the boutiques, seem to be hinting that there is no court in Russia ... In China, they would have been shot for such "tricks" with the budget, but we have just not been awarded. This undermines trust and respect for the courts. If we punish everyone, not selectively. And then they coped with the greenpeace, and the embezzlers (including the military!) Are carried in limousines.

    You were told on TV that someone at the Ministry of Defense may have stolen something. After all, you are unlikely to be familiar with the materials of the criminal case, right? So continue to be content with what you were told on TV, and what they will tell you again.
    If you know something that the investigation does not know, then share it. But, most likely, you only know what was reported in the “time” program. And not a word more.
    These are the screams: "I know who the thief is!!! They told me in the "time" program!!! Give me justice!!!" - quite funny. They cause nothing but laughter. Like, I don’t believe in Putin’s justice, but I do believe in Putin’s television... Anecdote, damn it... Aren’t you funny yourself?
  56. Crang
    +1
    28 September 2013 22: 51
    Quote: Sour
    You were told on TV that someone at the Ministry of Defense may have stolen something. After all, you are unlikely to be familiar with the materials of the criminal case, right? So continue to be content with what you were told on TV, and what they will tell you again.
    If you know something that the investigation does not know, then share it. But, most likely, you only know what was reported in the “time” program. And not a word more.
    These are the cries: “I know who the thief is!!! They told me in the Vremya program!!! Give me justice!!!” - quite funny. They cause nothing but laughter. Like, I don’t believe in Putin’s justice, but I do believe in Putin’s television... Anecdote, damn it... Aren’t you funny yourself?

    There's no need to know. Here you need to know mathematics and learn to systematize facts. And suddenly it turns out that:
    - our most important thieves and bribe-takers always teachers/doctors/policemen/minor bureaucrats.
    - no matter what a person of the level of Serdyukov and all his henchmen like Vasilyeva would do (you don’t need to know what the TV says, you need to know what is really happening in this sector) always turn out to have nothing to do with it (a fair trial will tell on TV) and never They don't get a real sentence.
    - no matter what an ordinary Russian citizen does, he always subject to "fair and just" punishment. Always 100% of the time.
    - in the event of a collision on the road between an ordinary citizen’s car and a government car with a flashing light, the traffic police and the court (they “know” the facts) always, I emphasize IS ALWAYS recognizes an ordinary motorist as the culprit of an accident, even if the moment of the accident was filmed on a video camera and it showed that a government limousine was rushing in the oncoming lane at a speed of 200 km/h. It's still the fault of the car enthusiast driving the ZAZ-968M. Even if he died as a result of an accident.
    - in a Russian/Caucasian conflict (Caucasians almost always climb first), the Russian is a priori to blame. Always. A Caucasian man is found guilty of “petty hooliganism” only if he stabbed a non-resisting Russian with a knife and then raped his wife. Try to defend yourself in Russian - an article of national discord (the bastard does not respect the traditions of the highlanders). Always like this.
    We see this all the time. You can systematize/put these facts into a list. This all causes wild hatred. This all gradually warms and warms the people. This is the Russian version of “democracy”. But in the UN and in Syria, our government is all correct and fair. A tear wells up. Under the tsar, sleek “gentlemen”, running amok in St. Petersburg apartments littered with gold and crystal, heated the people to the desired degree in about 60 years (the first revolutionary actions began somewhere in the second half of the 19th century). These have been heating for 20 years. Against this background, blame the US for its “democracy”. Yes, they are not our friends, and they behave extremely aggressively, but it’s not for us to laugh at them.
    1. +2
      29 September 2013 00: 47
      Quote: Krang
      Always like this.
      We see this all the time.

      Are you writing texts to Lyapis by any chance?

      "When the winter is cold in the Epiphany frosts
      The nightingale chirps and the mimosas bloom
      When you fly up to the skies and soar there, scaring the stars
      And some birds will build nests above your window
      When a fat girl buys a magazine "Fashion"
      And she dreams that the boys at school don’t allow her passage
      When a mustachioed policeman suddenly smiles at a hooligan
      And he will lead him by the hand, but not to prison, but to a restaurant

      Know this is love
      Cupid flaps his wings next to her
      Know this is love
      Don't hide your heart - Cupid won't miss

      When a boy writes someone's name on the asphalt with chalk
      When a stupid calf searches for its mother's udder with its lips
      When a cheerful foreman pinches a milkmaid near the club
      when a bald soldier kisses his friend's lips in a dream
      when a rootless mongrel wants to climb on a bulldog
      When on Kupala night two pairs of legs stick out from a haystack
      When a gray-haired professor jumps briskly through puddles in the rain
      And the girl he kissed over the top five cries

      Know this is love ..."
      1. Crang
        0
        29 September 2013 06: 41
        Quote: poquello
        Are you writing texts to Lyapis by any chance?

        Or have nothing to say? It’s always like this - when there is nothing to say, they start talking all sorts of nonsense.
        1. +2
          29 September 2013 21: 08
          Quote: Krang
          Quote: poquello
          Are you writing texts to Lyapis by any chance?

          Or have nothing to say? It’s always like this - when there is nothing to say, they start talking all sorts of nonsense.

          So, to an opus of continuous slogans presented as facts, with an awesome ending, otherwise there is no point in answering.
  57. Volkhov
    0
    28 September 2013 22: 52
    What’s interesting is that both border cruisers that detained the icebreaker soon broke down (one had an engine, the other had propellers) and sailed to Murmansk in tow from the arrested person (the crew was first locked up, then released to be dragged).
    The detention itself in the economic zone is doubtful - the icebreaker did not conduct economic activities... however, it was on the glorious fleet route to the New Siberian Islands and could see the return of the armada from the campaign. What if life is different from propaganda again?
    1. +1
      29 September 2013 12: 56
      Quote: Volkhov
      What’s interesting is that both border cruisers that detained the icebreaker soon broke down (one had an engine, the other had propellers) and sailed to Murmansk in tow from the arrested person (the crew was first locked up, then released to be dragged).

      And you can learn more about border cruisers, and about their breakdowns, of course.
      So ?
      request
      1. Volkhov
        0
        29 September 2013 15: 43
        Quote: Cynic
        And you can learn more about border cruisers, and about their breakdowns, of course.
        So ?

        Read Kommersant - there was an article there, there were no refutations. Border cruisers are old, either patrol boats or converted fishing cruisers.
        1. +1
          29 September 2013 20: 06
          Quote: Volkhov
          there were no denials

          You can’t put a scarf over someone else’s mouth, says the wise proverb of our glorious great-grandfathers.
          And if the article contains border cruisers, this is already from the work of patients of the famous Pyotr Petrovich.
          Quote: Volkhov
          Border cruisers are old, either patrol boats or converted fishing cruisers.

          Is this the same from there? belay
          Sorry, I didn’t find this article, maybe, as the respected one says Professor , links, proofs to the studio?
          1. Volkhov
            0
            29 September 2013 23: 03
            The border fleet in the north is quite strange - the most modern ship is German, quite comfortable, but with a speed of 15 knots and without weapons other than the one carried. The rest are patrol and fishing vessels from the times of the USSR. That is, they can soar the brains of those who get up on their own, but they are unlikely to catch up with anything decent.
    2. 0
      29 September 2013 12: 58
      Quote: Volkhov
      and could see the return of the armada from the campaign.

      Do satellites not fly there?
      1. Volkhov
        0
        29 September 2013 15: 20
        The satellites are more controllable than a group of ecologists from different countries - one will tell you that the king is naked - go and refute it...
        What’s going on there even without satellites is clear from the protruding ears, it’s just that most people are busy with everyday life and don’t notice the details, but some ecologist could tell you directly and they have a lot of blogs.
        1. 0
          29 September 2013 19: 55
          Quote: Volkhov
          Some ecologist could tell you directly and they have a lot of blogs.

          Culturally speaking _ Fighters of the information front.
  58. Crang
    0
    28 September 2013 23: 08
    Quote: Volkhov
    The detention itself in the economic zone is doubtful - the icebreaker did not conduct economic activities... however, it was on the glorious fleet route to the New Siberian Islands and could see the return of the armada from the campaign. What if life is different from propaganda again?

    It could be a US reconnaissance vessel.
    1. Volkhov
      0
      29 September 2013 00: 02
      Reconnaissance is an honorable occupation outside the 12 mile zone - the argument does not play.
      Sovereign territory is only the side of the platform.
  59. +1
    28 September 2013 23: 29
    To argue with a mattress satirist who openly despises the Russian people means not to respect yourself.
  60. +1
    29 September 2013 01: 03
    Shanderovich is an ordinary rat who shits wherever he lives. Moreover, he has already been almost forgotten and his performance is nothing more than an attempt to remind himself of himself. To show the “owners” that he can still be useful (maybe they will give him money).
  61. 0
    29 September 2013 01: 18
    They practice capturing the platform. We are working on protecting the platform. 2 months in our prison for their eyes. They will continue to be treated by psychoanalysts for another 5 years after this.
  62. 0
    29 September 2013 15: 52
    I have nothing against protecting nature, but all these small aggressive communities are annoying....Greenpeace, fagots...and...ki, naked women Feymen......we need to plant, let's show weakness, so these pi... they'll land somewhere else, but if we land and confiscate the ship, they'll be afraid
  63. 0
    30 September 2013 16: 02
    The corrupt “Greenpeace” hoped, as in previous times, to make some noise, get some money for the work and proudly leave. It’s good that we got it in full, despite the howling of some “pseudo-ecologists” and their apologists. Of course, as a result, “piracy” will be replaced with something more loyal, but they are unlikely to do it a second time winked It’s like our Ukrainians in Belarus. Femen girls were “rolled in feathers” once, they never set foot there again. And in “good” Europe they continue to shake their breasts in public wink
    1. 0
      30 September 2013 18: 21
      Quote: xomaNN
      but they’re unlikely to climb a second time

      The third time, this time was just the second time, the first time it happened like that
      Quote: xomaNN
      make some noise, get some money for the work and proudly leave.
  64. 0
    30 September 2013 23: 11
    It's time to stop messing around with these slackers!
  65. 0
    1 October 2013 11: 37
    Quote: yur2079
    Quote: intsurfer
    .... but we have not just been awarded.


    Well, how not awarded?
    Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of January 10, 2012 N 51 “On Awarding with State Prizes of the Russian Federation”
    For the great contribution to the development of the oil refining complex, the achieved labor successes and many years of conscientious work
    Order of Honor
    VASILYEVA Evgeny Nikolaevna - Head of the Office of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.

    They are all from the same stable, so don’t expect objectivity and justice from those in power, otherwise Chubais and the whole team would be the first to sit down.
  66. 0
    1 October 2013 12: 27
    I realized a long time ago that these (all) Greenpeace people are bought and act in someone else’s interests.
  67. as ir
    0
    2 October 2013 13: 13
    The fact that Putin is the president is no secret.
    1. 0
      2 October 2013 13: 50
      Quote: as ir
      The fact that Putin is the president is no secret.

      In a personal meeting, you tell him so in passing.
      How did your great-grandfather fare there and why did he change his last name?
  68. 0
    4 October 2013 07: 15
    And I already thought that the author would suggest killing the old lady.
    1. 0
      4 October 2013 10: 49
      Quote: Basileus
      will offer to bang.


      Candidates.
      1. 0
        4 October 2013 11: 58
        We need to take it higher. Why should Russia stoop to two American pensioners? We need to kill a more serious old lady. Old Europe, for example.
        1. 0
          5 October 2013 10: 08
          Quote: Basileus
          Old Europe, for example.

          There's an epidemic there now

          и
  69. combat-v
    0
    4 October 2013 18: 59
    Why do we need a Ukrainian cook for a kicha?
  70. Angry Russian
    0
    5 October 2013 01: 41
    A wonderful example that reveals the entire bestial essence of the West! It’s not just a finger, we’ve already given our hand a bite! About half of the territory of Russia (see map of the USSR), almost all of its underwater part, Drunk Borka gave to the whole world with a flourish... Don’t feel sorry for him!

    So few hands!!! They rushed to grab the throat, the head! – they financed Greenpeace! so that there would be no Russians on the Arctic shelf at all!!! Ohh-holy shit...!!, people really don’t see the edges!

    Briefly speaking! 10 must be soldered to everyone (more is not the law)! And the borders in the Arctic should be restored according to the Soviet ones (there was neither a referendum nor a Duma decision on Russia’s refusal to give up 10% of its territory). Months give for evacuation, then whoever climbs in not according to the law will be drowned! Although no, it seems illegal... then expropriate ships so as not to chase them for free. We have a rule of law state! We are not animals!
    PS: I feel sorry for the fiery fools, they are used there as disposable fighters, but they will get 10, which also benefits the customer.

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