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Is Russia a trembling creature, or does it have its right?

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Shenderovich is wildly indignant: for what did the Greenpeacers, who climbed onto the Prirazlomnaya platform, shut up in jail for two months? Russia is said to be a country of idiots, only idiots could “screw” these innocent pigeons, who were just joking, when they simply climbed onto a strategic Arctic object that they could not do at all.


And someone “just” got into his pocket, how would he react to it?

In our Criminal Code, there is a fair rule, in my opinion: when someone threatens with a pistol, it doesn’t matter if it’s a weapon or a dummy. If the threat was perceived realistically, then the attacker, even with a dummy, is obliged to ogresti fully for robbery.

But how to distinguish, at first glance, Greenpeace from terrorists? After all, the terrorists do not glue the sticker “We are terrorists!” On the contrary, they mow down just any visitors of the theater, the shop, “doctors without borders”, Greenpeace and so on. And therefore, any unauthorized entry to where it is not necessary, according to all laws and reason, should be qualified as an attempt at terrorism.

A simple reconciliation: would someone get on the ropes to a similar object in the worship of Shenderovich USA, would such scouts be shot immediately with automatic bursts or not? It is clear even to Shenderovich that they would have shot without a hitch!

But this is - States! They are allowed, for they are not a trembling creature, but the very, for our Shenderovichs, respect is very, very! Well, and Russia, therefore, must be clamped forever in the form of a trembling creature, which can be easily climbed with ropes and without ropes, and she in reply cannot utter a word!

I just made a noise about trying to capture the object, with a huge safety precaution, as a joke for its sake - and its liberal saviors are ready to strangle her for it!

Moreover, it is clear that if this amusing attack had not been beaten off and the jokers could have broken something on that platform, the reverse wind would have struck: our idiots cannot defend themselves even from Greenpeace!

As if Russia, obviously not the first righteous in the world, but not the last bastard, has some kind of original sin, for which it must of course be destroyed and finished. And she, according to the thoughts of those who finish off, still have to say thank you to them for this dobish!

And Shenderovich, it seems, is precisely this that is why he is most angry: why are these idiots, led by Putin, not bowing to his belt for his blessed attempt to powder them?
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  1. intsurfer
    intsurfer 28 September 2013 08: 20 New
    63
    only the Vasilyevs with the Serdyukovs walking around the boutiques hinted that there was no court in Russia ... In China, they would have already been shot for such "tricks" with the budget, but we have not just been awarded. This undermines trust and respect for the courts. If you punish everyone, not selectively. And then they coped with the Greenpeace, and embezzlers (including the military one!) Were carried in limousines.
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 28 September 2013 08: 36 New
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      Quote: intsurfer
      and embezzlers (including the military one!) are carried in limousines.

      Well, with embezzlers, we have a complete free trade, I do not want to steal.
      But in Greenpeace I can give advice! According to media reports, in my opinion there are a couple of Americans who are the world’s poopers. It would be necessary to give the rest conditionally or at a minimum, but Obama would slam him into Mordovia on Potma for 6-8 years so as this “exceptional” (as Obama called his nation).
      Potom is a zone for foreigners. Soon they can be exchanged for our compatriots languishing in the democratic dungeons of America. Recall the same unfortunate BUT, then there is our pilot and someone else from the hackers. All of them were deported at the request of the United States from other countries or insolently exported by them!
      A dream of course, but a pity. So they would show the world who we are Tv -shivering or self-respecting state ...
      And would there be another lesson?
      1. DPN
        DPN 30 September 2013 22: 04 New
        +3
        Good advice, the border is not touched as we were once told, this must be declared to the whole world, so that later we do not have to make excuses, and for a deadline.
        Do not *** do near the Russian borders and do not give a damn to your people as it was with the Korean plane, no one called him.
    2. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 28 September 2013 08: 54 New
      +9
      Quote: intsurfer
      only the Vasilyevs with the Serdyukovs walking around the boutiques hinted that there was no court in Russia ... In China, they would have already been shot for such "tricks" with the budget, but we have not just been awarded. This undermines trust and respect for the courts. If you punish everyone, not selectively. And then they coped with the Greenpeace, and embezzlers (including the military one!) Were carried in limousines.

      Wait a little more awards.
      1. shark
        shark 28 September 2013 11: 19 New
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        Putin’s cover of Serdyukov and his thieves is his main mistake.
        1. 31231
          31231 28 September 2013 18: 26 New
          +2
          If he harbored, the information would not have gone further than SK.
        2. DPN
          DPN 30 September 2013 22: 12 New
          0
          This is not a mistake, but politics; they don’t give up their own.
      2. Current 72
        Current 72 28 September 2013 17: 25 New
        +3
        I agree with you! And their time will come to answer, every vegetable must ripen for consumption.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 28 September 2013 18: 55 New
          10
          Quote: Current 72
          a vegetable must ripen for consumption.

          So the GrynPysovtsy ripened.
          After all, a year ago they were already in these parts and also tried to hooligan.
          So what ?
          They brought out little white hands and sent them home. The guys did not understand. Now they’ll wind up two months in a pre-trial detention center, and then _ How the card will fall! It may also break off a substantial period if their bosses are not enlightened.
          Pusikov was sent to the zone, now the femins in Geyrop hang out in the countries of the onset of tolerance.
          bully
      3. forester
        forester 29 September 2013 07: 17 New
        +1
        Yes, there is an order for VO for the breeders recently discussed this fact
    3. yur2079
      yur2079 28 September 2013 09: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: intsurfer
      .... but we have not just been awarded.


      Well, how not awarded?
      Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of January 10, 2012 N 51 “On Awarding with State Prizes of the Russian Federation”
      For the great contribution to the development of the oil refining complex, the achieved labor successes and many years of conscientious work
      Order of Honor
      VASILYEVA Evgeny Nikolaevna - Head of the Office of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.
    4. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 28 September 2013 09: 13 New
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      Quote: intsurfer
      If you punish everyone, not selectively.

      At all the crucial stages of the development of states, representatives of the FIFTH COLUMN have always moved forward! They were given the primary role of undermining the foundations of the state ... or, as they say today, "rocking the boat." In Russia, too, the “grand prospectors”, not just like that, are actively “fighting” for the purity of either democracy or “shit democracy” ... And the stricter ... within the framework of the same principles of DEMOCRACY and LEGAL STATE they will ask with a manifestation of ACREDUCTION LEGAL Nihilism, whether it be DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS or the same GREENPRIS, the more authoritative our state will be. And the defenders of offenders, OUR FIFTH COLUMN, must also be fastened to these madmen. Then they, too, will understand that, in addition to opportunities, under the guise of freedom of speech, to sling mud at their country, there are also RESPONSIBILITIES TO SUPPORT AND PROTECT YOUR COUNTRY!
      1. smile
        smile 28 September 2013 13: 15 New
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        KazaK Bo
        Greenpeace workers are by no means crazy, just remember the history of this CIA branch, look at its leaders, who formally removed the epaulettes, inquire about those who finance them, and everything becomes clear. This is a common organization like PMCs. acting where the USA does not want to advertise its participation, normal agents, and they need to be planted all to the maximum. If the Americans give ours for forty years on the basis of a couple of phrases, the pronunciation of which was provoked by their special services and was not accompanied by ANY actions, then imagine how much they would give if they tried to capture something with the same Makar.
        1. skeptic
          skeptic 28 September 2013 14: 40 New
          13
          As if Russia, obviously not the first righteous person in the world, but also not the last bastard, has some kind of original sin, for which it must certainly be destroyed and finished off.

          Quote: smile
          Greenpeace workers are a regular organization like PMCs. acting where the USA does not want to advertise its participation,


          "MAJOR PRIMARY SIN" of Russia - its territory and raw materials. So they arrange provocations, with military exercises at the same time, in the same area. And the fact that the Greenpeople are pseudo-ecological terrorists, under cover, so it is clear - do not go to your grandmother.

          And about the landing and the subsequent exchange of terrorists on captured, by lawlessness, Russians - a very interesting idea.
          1. CTEPX
            CTEPX 28 September 2013 15: 31 New
            +1
            Quote: skeptic
            "MAJOR PRIMARY SIN" of Russia - its territory and raw materials.

            The main original sin of Russia is that it is)). And with it there is historical memory and the OPPORTUNITY to change everything)).
          2. KBPC50
            KBPC50 1 October 2013 12: 49 New
            +1
            Greenpeace is an ordinary political prostitute, led by one of Hitler's distant relatives - Rothschild, a famous oil company that destroys the Gulf of Mexico. Led by natural subordination is the deputy chief of CIA. So they want to destroy the main investor and taxpayer of Russia - Gazprom and oil companies. Everything is simple.
        2. Simon
          Simon 28 September 2013 16: 50 New
          +4
          Yes, in general, these Greenpeace people had to be drowned in the waters of the Arctic Ocean. But the excitement was strong, they did not manage to save everything, all the problems. Next time they will not climb, they will keep at a distance.
      2. Misantrop
        Misantrop 30 September 2013 10: 06 New
        +4
        Quote: KazaK Bo
        representatives of the FIFTH COLUMN! They were given the primary role of undermining the foundations of the state ... or, as they say today, "rocking the boat."
        Specifically, in this case, this is not even the case. Let’s digress for a moment from politics and remember WHAT is this object and WHY is there such strict access? A random spark and ... what's next? The torch, a bunch of corpses, the decades destroyed the region’s ecology and wild financial losses. And who would be guilty, guess three times? These creative downs or a country that "failed to provide work on the OBJECT OF HIGHER DANGER"? And, as after Chernobyl, there is again a cry on the planet that "these savages must be isolated from high technology" ...
    5. Rusich51
      Rusich51 28 September 2013 09: 57 New
      +6
      Well, Greenpeace for this purpose was created by amers to keep the rebellious under the hood.
      1. bereg
        bereg 28 September 2013 10: 32 New
        13
        greenpeace that a Mexican gulf in oil sailed to us, chemical oil shales corrode us, and fires at hazardous enterprises are also frequent. Prirazlomnaya is considered the most reliable and modern in the world. infuriates amers how they build positions so immediately I call my rotten pack <greenpeace. Alkaida. Gays Crazy Sinators. and put my hand to the UN>
      2. Dober
        Dober 28 September 2013 12: 32 New
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        Quote: Rusich51
        Well, Greenpeace for this purpose was created by amers to keep the rebellious under the hood.


        Quote: Starover_Z
        And where were Shenderovich with Greenpeace


        "There is a lot of criticism of GreenPeace, even among quite decent intellectuals. One cannot help but wonder why no one saw Greenpeace ecologists in the Gulf of Mexico or Fukushima? Unlike their frenzied activity against Russian companies in the Arctic. They asked - we answer. First, British Petroleum is a democratic company. uses the most advanced technologies to protect nature and a priori can not harm the environment.(wooh how ...)
        Secondly, BP paid a huge multi-billion dollar fine and is in great sorrow. sad It was simply inhumane to conduct various environmental campaigns when the managers of the company had such grief. Understand and forgive. Moreover, if Grispeis himself receives a small gesheft from the oil giant. This allows him to lobby the ban on nuclear energy with tripled force, even in some democratic countries. After all, this reduces the revenue of British Petroleum."

        Leo Sharansky. The most dissident dissident. /

        And here he is already making us funny -
        "And I urge all honest and decent people, gays and democratic journalists to say their firm no to the tricks and provocations of the KGB gang. We will hold hands, friends. We will not forget, we will not forgive. Greenpeace’s will. And as a sign of support for brave eco-activists and a democratic photographer Sinyakova, like all free media today, I also put a black square instead of a photograph of today's post. After all, one must not live by lies. For your and our freedom. I demand compensation. Karlamov vac. In the sky of Bonner, on the land of Khaikin, in the Sixth water fleet. At the Feldman picket, in Montenegro Navalny. We are here in power. So we will win! "

        lev-sharansky2.livejournal.com/208306.html
        1. v.lyamkin
          v.lyamkin 30 September 2013 06: 36 New
          +5
          In the Gulf of Mexico, you can smear, in Fukushima, you can catch something. Why go there. And the presence in the Arctic is still apparently environmentally friendly. And the owners of the "fas" command.
        2. Oberst_71
          Oberst_71 30 September 2013 12: 56 New
          +1
          did he say so?
      3. Simon
        Simon 28 September 2013 16: 54 New
        +1
        Only you can’t keep us under the hood, we are Russians, we have a different mentality, not like that of the Americans, we will find a way out everywhere. tongue laughing
    6. Gari
      Gari 28 September 2013 10: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: intsurfer
      that there is no court in Russia ...

      Dear not only in Russia, there are no courts throughout the CIS space, or rather courts, that is, but which ones, for whom. In my opinion, the most corrupt of all state bodies.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 28 September 2013 10: 36 New
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        Quote: Gari
        , there are no ships throughout the CIS-space

        Gari do not amuse yourself with illusions. In the democratic countries of the West, justice is just like the drawbar, where you turned and left. Here is an example of justice in the USA. http://muz4in.net/news/pravosudie_v_ssha_dlja_tekh_kto_ispytyvaet_illjuzii/2012-
        11-04-30756
        Well, if on the topic, then everyone did the right thing, I would have spent these Greens with double standards as pirates, others will not be mischievous. It’s good to wipe my feet about Russia, number failed.
        1. Gari
          Gari 28 September 2013 10: 53 New
          +8
          Quote: Sirocco
          Gari don't flatter yourself with illusions,


          Believe me, I am not amusing, and the West is by no means a standard for me.

          Quote: Sirocco
          It’s good to wipe feet on Russia, the number did not go through.

          But I completely agree with this.
          Especially who these Greenpeople are in fact I already wrote. Who they work for, what tasks they perform.

          They put him in jail for two months, and they should be sent to Siberia for a long time somewhere, just there in the taiga, they sawed them, they seem to be for the environment, let's see how they will fight in robes against deforestation.
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco 28 September 2013 11: 39 New
            +3
            Quote: Gari
            , it’s just there in the taiga that they belong, at the logging, they’re kind of for the environment

            That's just about the forest, about the taiga, Greenpeace is silent, and why? For Russia, this is a much more serious problem (nightly barbaric logging). So your words, yes to our humane court in the ears, Let the Greens show themselves, in the defense of green spaces.
            1. Gari
              Gari 28 September 2013 14: 34 New
              +3
              [quote = Sirocco] For Russia, this is a much more serious problem (nightly barbaric logging). [/ quote
              I know the descendants wrote, this is a problem, a big problem, they cut down at the root, I saw it on TV, but here Greenpeace’s campaign is beneficial, in the interests of their owners
              1. Sirocco
                Sirocco 29 September 2013 02: 05 New
                +3
                Quote: Gari
                big problem, cut down at the root, seen on TV,

                You saw on TV, I see this disgrace periodically, and I do not see this end and edge. After all, no one thinks about villages, and they survive as they can, without thinking about the consequences. At such a pace, it will be like in the Sahara desert.
            2. Tartary
              Tartary 29 September 2013 07: 05 New
              +3
              Quote: Sirocco
              Quote: Gari
              , it’s just there in the taiga that they belong, at the logging, they’re kind of for the environment

              That's just about the forest, about the taiga, Greenpeace is silent, and why? For Russia, this is a much more serious problem (nightly barbaric logging). So your words, yes to our humane court in the ears, Let the Greens show themselves, in the defense of green spaces.

              Today, a cubic meter of hardwood reaches a cost of up to $ 800 ...

              Do you think healthy men living in nearby towns and villages, where logging enterprises have left, and the latest laws forbid them not only to harvest their own forest, but even freely gather wild plants, should eat the last without salt and feed their children with the same ?

              I'm smiling...
              When a few million cubic meters of overripe timber die at the root every year, then no one cares about the loss of state ...
              And the peasants prepared several hundred cubes to improve their budget, then they immediately fell into the category of villains?

              Let the man go into the forest! Let him feed his family with dignity.
              1. Gari
                Gari 29 September 2013 13: 12 New
                0
                Quote: Tartary
                Let the man go into the forest! Let him feed his family with dignity.

                Here no one even has the right to argue, family is the most important thing, and a man for that and a man who is obliged to watch his family with dignity.
      2. Simon
        Simon 28 September 2013 17: 01 New
        +1
        And amers, which is better courts? They are guilty without guilt. How many large terms were given for our fellow citizens for what.
    7. true love
      true love 28 September 2013 10: 09 New
      +4
      When Russia becomes independent, then the courts will become independent.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 28 September 2013 10: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: true love
        When Russia becomes independent, then the courts will become independent.

        When patriots will be in power in Russia, then everything will be ...
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 28 September 2013 15: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: Semen Semenych
          When patriots will be in power in Russia

          Russia is big)). And if in the Kremlin we seem to have a patriot in power, then the chairmen of the government and top officials in the regions, as a rule, are enemies)).
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 28 September 2013 20: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: ctepx
            [And if in the Kremlin we have in power, it seems, a patriot
            Curious - on what is this illogical and unproven statement based? laughing

            then the chairmen of the government and top officials in the regions are usually enemies)).
            Just super ...
            1. CTEPX
              CTEPX 28 September 2013 20: 11 New
              0
              Quote: Yarosvet
              Curious - on what is this illogical and unproven statement based?

              Respected!).
              And you do not know that presidents change from time to time)).
              Yes, and that laws are not always written by us?)).
              1. Normal
                Normal 28 September 2013 20: 31 New
                +6
                Quote: ctepx
                And you do not know that presidents change from time to time)).

                Oh, oooh ... are changing? Is that true? And when was the last time our president was not a character with the pseudonym "Tandem"?
                Quote: ctepx
                Yes, and that laws are not always written by us?)).

                Well, Fedorovism begins about the occupation, the constitution written by the Americans and the leader of the liberation movement Putin, who for some reason did not rush to free Russia.
                When the GDP wanted to be president not two terms of 4 years, but two terms of 6 years, the constitution "written by the Americans" in the right part was changed with ease beyond ordinary. They were not afraid of American anger. And for some reason, the constitution interferes with subordinating the central bank or introducing an ideology to our rulers.
                1. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 28 September 2013 21: 15 New
                  0
                  Quote: Normal
                  the "written by the Americans" constitution in the right part was changed with ease not ordinary.

                  Duck and right now at the UN, with ease extraordinary, signed chemical disarmament)).
                  What makes you think that the constitution under Putin was changed?
                  1. Normal
                    Normal 28 September 2013 21: 52 New
                    +1
                    Quote: ctepx
                    What makes you think that the constitution under Putin was changed?

                    Pretending to be?
                    1. CTEPX
                      CTEPX 28 September 2013 22: 13 New
                      -2
                      Quote: ctepx
                      Duck and right now at the UN, which was easily unusual, signed chemical disarmament)). How did you get the idea of ​​changing the constitution under Putin?

                      Quote: Normal
                      Pretending to be?

                      Well, the UN has signed everything)). They believe that they will condemn Assad, ours hope to pull up the Saudis.
                      And then there was a term of presidency)).
                      We will beat them now)). Judging by their stupidity)). Although, chur me!)).
                2. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 28 September 2013 22: 06 New
                  0
                  Quote: Normal
                  Fedorovism begins about the occupation, written by the American constitution

                  It does not begin)). And we will change the constitution)).
              2. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 30 September 2013 17: 58 New
                +1
                Quote: ctepx
                And you do not know that the presidents change from time to time))
                And you do not know that the Cabinet is changing (or rather shuffled)?

                Yes, and that laws are not always written by us?)).
                But they are always accepted by a majority vote of the Duma (that is, EP - the party from which our presidents have been going to the polls for the past 9 years), and are always signed by the current president.
                1. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 30 September 2013 18: 22 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  But always accepted by a majority vote of the Duma

                  We are aware that there is not a single pro-Russian party in the State Duma of the Russian Federation)). There are only some pro-Russian personalities. Probably)).
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 1 October 2013 16: 00 New
                    +1
                    Quote: ctepx
                    We are aware that there is not a single pro-Russian party in the State Duma of the Russian Federation)). There are only some pro-Russian personalities. Probably)).

                    Awesome logic.

                    Now the question is - will the party, without being pro-Russian, unanimously nominate a pro-Russian presidential candidate for election?
                    1. CTEPX
                      CTEPX 1 October 2013 20: 46 New
                      0
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      will the party, without being pro-Russian, unanimously nominate a pro-Russian presidential candidate for election?

                      Will, if kept in a stall)). And do not let others eat oats)).
                      1. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 1 October 2013 21: 44 New
                        0
                        Quote: ctepx
                        Will, if kept in a stall)). And do not let others eat oats)).

                        Well, just awesome! laughing

                        That is, the president should not let someone else eat oats from this party, despite the fact that he is going to the polls from this party ?!

                        Awesome logic! laughing
                      2. CTEPX
                        CTEPX 1 October 2013 22: 10 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        That is, the president should not let others eat oats from this party

                        Moreover, then he didn’t let someone else’s oats eat - prime minister)).
                        And the president, by the way. after a long consultation with the Americans, put forward a condition on his future premiership)). Violating all the patsansky agreements)).
                        Or pretend that all infinite violations during the elections to the State Duma are not Medvedev’s carte blanche!)). And he didn’t take 50%!
                        And, instead of leaving, as agreed, with the support of the SGA offered himself to the premiere)).
                        Respected)). Or you are not quite swimming in this)). Or do you like demagoguery as a product)). I do not like)).
                      3. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 2 October 2013 11: 05 New
                        +1
                        You, Oleg, have a wild fantasy, not supported by either facts or logic.

                        First, the EBN, with the filing of Kudrin and Chubais, raises Putin to riches from the mud (who, along with Chubais and Kudrin, worked for the neoliberal Sobchak, and whom the Petersburgers kicked in the ass, I must assume for good work)

                        Then, apparently not without Berezovsky’s participation, an EP is created under Putin, the function of which is to pass through the Duma the laws necessary for the group represented by Putin (while the EBN receives indulgence in the form of an unconstitutional 12-FZ, and almost all more or less independent “oligarchs” calmly dump to foreign countries).

                        In the process of the above, Vova drags his children to Moscow, including Dima, who first makes him a prime minister, and then makes Dima an advertisement, as a result of which those who now swear at him in the presidential election.

                        Before the elections of the 12th, a fairy tale appears, spread by Chubais Fedorov, a faithful comrade-in-arms, from which it follows that Putin Cossack steadfastly fights with the liberals whom he himself brought to power and appointed to positions (Putin’s attempt to “nationalize” the Central Bank is called confirmation of this struggle and Putin’s cancellation of the law "on production sharing agreements" - of course, there has never been an attempt or cancellation, but people like you prefer to believe rather than verify information)

                        What is interesting - despite the events described by me, despite their system and logic, despite the common policy for Medvedev and Putin (the essence of which is the privatization of state property, cutting social programs and integrating the country into the global economy as a raw materials appendage and a space cab) - you, and such as you continue to invent consultations with the Americans, the terms of the premiership, the boys' agreements, etc. the nonsense that you have to justify from your finger with sucked-up speculations, which is not surprising - there are no facts confirming such fantasies in nature.
                      4. CTEPX
                        CTEPX 2 October 2013 20: 46 New
                        0
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        There are no facts confirming such fantasies in nature.

                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        consultations with amerikosy, conditions on premiership, patsansky arrangements, etc. nonsense

                        They just have the facts)). You can know or not know about them, they can be trusted or not believe, they can be interpreted)).
                        What you described is a retelling of media stuffing and analysis. Moreover, which is characteristic, these media are entirely “handshakes”)). Sometimes they are commercial (I am aware that we have no other media in Russia).
                        What I am describing is a rethinking of the same media stuffing and analysis based on simple facts and comparisons. I’m just lucky in life, I have a lot of simple facts and considerable experience in practical “grassroots” work in conditions of multi-level informational counteraction)).
                        As for your logical chain, before the words
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        First EBN with the filing of Kudrin and Chubais raises from the mud to riches Putin
                        just enter, for example:
                        after part of the senior representatives of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the KGB, who put up with the defeat of the defeat, put Putin into the structure of the community of political strategists developing the contours of “managed” Russia, the following happened:
                        hereinafter)).
                        Moreover, this media fact that I just cited has a lot more common sense than the one you quoted
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        fairy tale, carried by the faithful ally of Chubais Fedorov
                        Mass media fact)).
                      5. Normal
                        Normal 2 October 2013 22: 04 New
                        +1
                        Quote: ctepx
                        They just have the facts)). You can know or not know about them, they can be trusted or not believe, they can be interpreted)).

                        And you can invent them, what are you doing here since you
                        a lot of simple facts and considerable experience in practical "grass-roots" work in the conditions of multi-level informational counteraction))
                        That is, the experience of demagoguery, lies and exhaustion of the "simple facts" that are not facts by definition.
                        Here is an example of the simplest demagogy:
                        Quote: ctepx
                        What you described is a retelling of media stuffing and analysis .....
                        What I am describing is a rethinking of the same media stuffing and analysis based on simple facts and comparisons.

                        Bravo! You mean rethinking, and Yarosvet retells. Applause....
                        But I just think that you're just lying. The level of arguments of Yarosvet and your arguments are not comparable.
                        Yarosvet cites facts, articles of laws and the constitution, and you;
                        consultations with amerikosami ..... patsansky agreements))
                        and tales for the weak-minded like this one:
                        after part of the senior representatives of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the KGB, who were reconciled with defeat, put Putin into the structure of the community of political strategists developing the contours of “managed” Russia,
                        About which besides you, and the same as you "real boys" with experience
                        practical "grassroots" work in a multilevel informational counteraction)).
                        that is, patsian graters for seeds with beer, no one heard anything. But this does not matter, but you can pretend that you know something that is not known to a wide circle of observers. But what about? After all
                        You are in this ..... swimming)).
                        Absolutely ....
                        Go on ... Just don’t need “this”, what you swim in, stuff your opponents. Not everyone loves this substance ....
                      6. CTEPX
                        CTEPX 3 October 2013 20: 45 New
                        0
                        Quote: Normal
                        That is, the experience of demagogy

                        And why did you decide that my practical experience of “grass-roots” work has at least something to do with information? No, he has only experience
                        Quote: ctepx
                        in conditions of multi-level informational counteraction)).

                        Quote: Normal
                        Bravo! You mean rethinking, and Yarosvet retells.

                        Well, yes, since Yarosvet repeats what the media write, and what I repeat, the media, if they write, then very briefly)).
                        Quote: Normal
                        Yarosvet cites facts, articles of laws and the constitution, and you

                        So I, lightly bring an article of our Constitution, namely: Article 13 Clause 2, in the presence of which any other state would have devoured its guts long ago.
                        Quote: Normal
                        Just don’t need “this”, in which you swim, to stuff your opponents.

                        Pseudo-quote taken out of context)).
                        Is there a conscience ?!
                    2. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 3 October 2013 12: 35 New
                      +1
                      Quote: ctepx
                      Facts they just are
                      If they are, then they should be stated, and not talk about what they are.

                      they can be trusted or not believed
                      They can neither be trusted nor not be trusted - they are FACTS, in other words, objectively existing reality. They can be interpreted only separately from each other, the facts folded into the logical system are unambiguous.

                      What you described is a retelling of media stuffing and analysis
                      What I am describing is a rethinking of the same media stuffing and analysis based on simple facts and comparisons.
                      Many words, facts - 0.

                      in conditions of multilevel informational counteraction
                      Could it be on the Oka planet? laughing

                      after the forces of the reconciled with defeat part of senior representatives of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the KGB
                      You prove the existence of this part, determine the surnames, determine the reasons why the “winners” did not finish this part, prove the fact of Putin’s introduction, prove that this group introduced him, prove that he was not slipped into this group by the group of “winners” as a double agent , prove that he did not side with the "winners", etc. etc.
                      In the meantime, if you haven’t done this, do not suck out unprovable conjectures from your finger and familiarize yourself with the principle of Okamma Razor - it will suddenly help.

                      Moreover, this media fact
                      Was it a FACT ?! belay, that is, this nonsense has been proven, and the evidence has been attested in one way or another? laughing

                      The riveted by you is a good illustration of the article about network "idiots" - is on VO, I recommend laughing
                    3. CTEPX
                      CTEPX 3 October 2013 21: 14 New
                      0
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      If they are, then they should be stated

                      Not necessary at all)). More often, just - it is impossible)). And sometimes it’s enough to indicate their (facts) presence)). We don’t write history, but just try to comprehend what was written for us)).
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      They can neither be trusted nor trust - they are FACTS
                      Well, why is it possible)). After all, the facts are for us, and we have free will)).
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      You prove the existence of this part, determine the surnames, determine the reasons why the "winners" did not finish this part, prove the fact of Putin’s introduction

                      Here it is)) ...
                      This may be true or false)). In case this is not true, something can be proved)). In case this is true ...
                      And imagine for a second that this is so)). And what would you do?
                      If you are for Russia, of course)).
                    4. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 4 October 2013 11: 53 New
                      0
                      Quote: ctepx
                      Not necessary at all)). More often, just - it is impossible)). And sometimes it’s enough to indicate their (facts) presence)). We don’t write the story, but just try to comprehend what was written for us)
                      Oh yes - verbiage in half with an abstraction - as is familiar. laughing
                      Oleg - do you have facts confirming your version?

                      After all, the facts are for us, and we have free will))
                      Not - facts in themselves, without us. We can only state them.

                      In case this is not true, something can be proved)
                      Are you not drunk for an hour? It’s just interesting - how can one prove a lie, that is, make an objectively non-existent objectively existing? laughing

                      And imagine for a second that this is so)). And what would you do?
                      How is that? Whose place are you offering me to take?
                      Once again - do you have facts confirming your point of view on the occupation of the Russian Federation by amers, the secret work of Vova on a group of patriotic nomenclature, the very existence of this group, etc.?
                      If there are - state, if not - end unprovenly to tremble.

                      So I, lightly bring an article of our Constitution, namely: Article 13 Clause 2, in the presence of which any other state would have devoured its guts long ago
                      This is generally a masterpiece - it seems that this is all your essence laughing

                      Oleg, before writing about anything, first you need to understand what exactly you are going to write about: ideology is a system of values. Recognition of ideological diversity and type "ban" on state ideology is also an ideology, but spelled out in the Constitution and therefore having the status of the Basic Law, that is, it is a state ideology laughing

                      If there is an article in the Constitution of any state similar to part 2 of Article 13 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, this gut state will not be consumed due to the fact that part 2 of Article 13 is not anti-state or even bad - it is just crazy laughing
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 28 September 2013 20: 00 New
    0
    Quote: true love
    When Russia becomes independent, then the courts will become independent.

    Please tell us what Russia is dependent on, on whom, for what reason, and what prevents it from becoming independent?
    1. atalef
      atalef 28 September 2013 20: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Yarosvet
      than Russia is dependent on whom. on what terms. and what prevents her from becoming independent?

      Russia is dependent (extremely) on world oil and gas prices (respectively, on the purchasing power of Europe and America), as well as market conditions. Expressed in trends from crises, new suppliers and energy-saving technologies. These are all things that Russia cannot influence in any way, but only react


      Quote: Yarosvet
      on what terms.

      The conditions are simple - whether they want to buy at the proposed price (which is budgeted) or not, that's all


      Quote: Yarosvet
      . and what prevents her from becoming independent?

      The backward production base and the inability to process its own resources by selling the final product. (this is not only about energy carriers), but also intellectual property.
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 28 September 2013 20: 13 New
        -1
        Quote: atalef
        Russia is dependent (extremely) on world prices for ...

        You do not understand what the conversation is about, or are you lying around?
        1. atalef
          atalef 28 September 2013 20: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: Cynic
          You do not understand what the conversation is about, or are you lying around?

          I’m probably fooling around, but is the answer correct or not?
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 28 September 2013 20: 31 New
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            I guess I’m felting Vanya

            Not sure, but for sure.
            Quote: atalef
            Is the answer correct or not?

            Sorry, but you
            do not distinguish worms from bubeys

            bully
      2. nerd.su
        nerd.su 28 September 2013 23: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Russia is dependent (extremely) on world oil and gas prices (respectively, on the purchasing power of Europe and America)

        Norway is much more dependent on this. And is Norway an independent court or not?
      3. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 30 September 2013 17: 49 New
        -1
        Quote: atalef
        Everything you have written is obvious.

        Try to convey this to a true lover who sees the invisible hand of the states in all problems. laughing
  • SHILO
    SHILO 28 September 2013 10: 49 New
    +7


    Is Russia trembling?

    This is not a victory, but the battle is won!
    1. stranik72
      stranik72 28 September 2013 13: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: SHILO
      This is not a victory, but the battle is won

      As for the battle, too, the question is, rather, just a tactical position before the battle is preferable here.
  • AVV
    AVV 28 September 2013 13: 02 New
    +3
    Vasilieva must not be in a five-room apartment until the return of all the loot, but on Novaya Zemlya and with his friend Serdyukov, even if they take the Arctic together with the Greenpeace, they will remove it from the garbage !!!!
    1. max702
      max702 28 September 2013 13: 53 New
      +1
      13th room .. at five she will die!
  • Cynic
    Cynic 28 September 2013 18: 46 New
    0
    Quote: intsurfer
    that there is no court in Russia ..

    And the accomplices of Serdyukov don’t surrender, don’t surrender! There is no incriminating evidence in the embezzlement against him, no.
    Here's a joke of humor.
    Or do you have your own sources?
  • alone
    alone 28 September 2013 20: 11 New
    0
    their embezzlers! they don’t put their own
  • alexdol
    alexdol 28 September 2013 21: 40 New
    0
    intsurfer "This undermines trust and respect for the courts ...."
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    I would add here AND THE AUTHORITY VERTICAL TO ALL!
  • poquello
    poquello 28 September 2013 21: 47 New
    +3
    Quote: intsurfer
    only the Vasilyevs with the Serdyukovs walking around the boutiques hinted that there was no court in Russia ... In China, they would have already been shot for such "tricks" with the budget, but we have not just been awarded. This undermines trust and respect for the courts. If you punish everyone, not selectively. And then they coped with the Greenpeace, and embezzlers (including the military one!) Were carried in limousines.

    You minus. The impunity of Taburetkin's company is no reason not to slap the Greenpeace in accordance with Russian law. Yes, and it is more important to drive out the rest of the pests and embezzlers from the state feeding service than to demand blood already expelled.
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 29 September 2013 05: 53 New
    +2
    . This undermines the trust and respect for the courts. (((((TO AUTHORITY AS A WHOLE I would notice ...
  • v.lyamkin
    v.lyamkin 30 September 2013 06: 31 New
    0
    Well, why not reward. just the opposite: Mrs. Vasilieva was awarded a government award in January 2012, it seems the Order of the Badge of Honor. Although I'm not sure about the name of the order, I did not consider it necessary to remember.
  • rinat1955
    rinat1955 30 September 2013 11: 32 New
    0
    China is known for its extremely inventive executions of stealing officials, and the technology has been worked out for thousands of years ...
    Another question, and then China with it.
  • nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 30 September 2013 12: 11 New
    +1
    God forbid these creatures reach out to these creatures, but others who, under the guise of fighting for nature, are trying to get into our business, should it not be that they are bypassing the Norwegian platforms, perhaps the “charity” fund will not approve the budget?
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  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 28 September 2013 08: 21 New
    +7
    So this is Shenderovich. What else is there to wait for?
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 28 September 2013 10: 23 New
      +6
      Yesterday they told a joke. There is Rabinovich, he sees a wallet lying around. Raised, there is money. Counted. "That b ... is not enough."
  • Klin klinovv
    Klin klinovv 28 September 2013 08: 21 New
    +4
    you could take it harder, or at least with the following.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 28 September 2013 08: 26 New
      0
      No comments
      1. Mr.M
        Mr.M 28 September 2013 10: 16 New
        +6
        Over time, Greenpeace just slipped into the category of another tool of the West, but in the Arctic now it’s not just happening. And to bring this record ten years ago is a deliberate manipulation of opinions and misleading people.
        1. smile
          smile 28 September 2013 13: 23 New
          +4
          Mr.M
          It was originally created as their tool, created by the crusaders, led by the crusaders. for this purpose, specially resigned, was funded by US intelligence agencies. The tool was used against US enemies, and in competition with some companies of their allies. Sometimes they earn extra money on the side, if they pay. they get involved in a showdown between large TNCs.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 28 September 2013 14: 02 New
            +4
            Quote: smile
            It was originally created as their tool.

            Exactly! Otherwise, as a tool or tool for "twisting the arms" and can not be called ...

            "Pig" is a long-standing means of reprisal against competitors and dissidents in the "Western civilization".
          2. Cynic
            Cynic 28 September 2013 19: 38 New
            +1
            Quote: smile
            It was originally created as their tool, created by the crusaders, headed ...

            If so, now it’s essentially a Rockefeller office, but it started as usual _ We wanted the best, but it turned out as always.
            They did not work against the CCCP and the countries of the socialist camp, and then the whole West merged in a single rush against them.
            Remember as french specialty jerked Grynpyssovsky rainbow warrior? Hardly the crushers would have allowed the French to do this.
            So all this
            No politics, just business.

            Rockefeller and others like them not only to the crush, but also to all their specialists Bosko breaks if they climb into his field of activity.
            wink
      2. smile
        smile 28 September 2013 13: 27 New
        +7
        Apollo
        But the phrase is torn out of their context. We do not know to whom, under what circumstances, and why Pu said so. Perhaps he had to flatter someone, or pretend to be white and fluffy. And far from always, any president has the right to express his real opinion. I doubt that GeBeshnik can have a positive attitude towards the enemy’s special services tool ... albeit probable ...
      3. CTEPX
        CTEPX 28 September 2013 15: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: Apollon
        No comments

        And Putin’s eyes are so cunning, cunning)).
      4. nerd.su
        nerd.su 28 September 2013 18: 56 New
        +3
        Putin is a politician. But the politician is the master of his word, he gave the word himself, he took it back! smile These are the realities ...
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 28 September 2013 20: 07 New
          -1
          Quote: bot.su
          Putin is a politician. But the politician is the master of his word, he gave the word himself, he took it back!
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 28 September 2013 08: 24 New
    +8
    What are you trying to prove to these Shenderovichs, it is useless, they all understand perfectly. Here, as in a joke - "Have you ordered a fight? - No. Not e..et - paid!"
  • awg75
    awg75 28 September 2013 08: 30 New
    15
    it’s just necessary to punish these nature lovers in full - for at least two years. I think everyone understands that the stock is registered-let them get what they deserve.
    1. smile
      smile 28 September 2013 13: 29 New
      +5
      awg75
      Which two? For such jokes with hijacking an airplane they give it to the fullest in all countries — this joke was no less dangerous. To the fullest.
    2. Current 72
      Current 72 28 September 2013 17: 45 New
      +1
      For this, Greenpeople must be given a full program, at least ten years, by law !!!
  • Tatarus
    Tatarus 28 September 2013 08: 33 New
    14
    If it weren’t Shenderovich, but let’s say some kind of Petrov, after this article I would have decided that he was definitely Shenderovich
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 30 September 2013 12: 17 New
      0
      Petya Petrov and Ivan Ivanov in the internet darkness, they only write on a carbon copy and sometimes it’s strange somehow, sort of right, but they won’t even write Russian from a big hangover, not that mentality.
  • major071
    major071 28 September 2013 08: 36 New
    10
    Good morning! hi Well what can I say, he already sent Putin to resign, he spoke out against the pedophilia law, now Greenpeace. Defender of the humiliated and offended, and for what only TEFI was given to him? stop
    The Greenpeace would have heard it - but once upon a time, they were in barbecue. laughing
  • Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 28 September 2013 08: 42 New
    +7
    This fulfilling Greenpeace order has long been time to stoke, as Putin said with respect. Interestingly, someone doubts that they work on order? (WELL BEYOND FULL IDIOTS) When they were created, then the goals were good, and then they sold out negative
    1. smile
      smile 28 September 2013 13: 32 New
      +1
      Kolyan 2
      From the very beginning, it didn’t smell of any good goals, and they weren’t sold to anyone, they were created like that .... take an interest in the creators of this gang.
  • Alikovo
    Alikovo 28 September 2013 08: 44 New
    +3
    I wonder if anyone wants these damn human rights defenders to be in Russia. I personally do not. I do not even understand what they are doing.
    1. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 28 September 2013 09: 31 New
      +8
      Quote: Alikovo
      I don’t understand what they are doing.


      Protect US interests in Russia.
  • marat1000
    marat1000 28 September 2013 08: 59 New
    +5
    Yes, even Apple calls Greenpeace "green terrorists." Greenpeace has long become an organization to raise money, not protect the green world. There are frank confessions of people who worked in this organization. If you don’t pay, you don’t get the brand on the product - green or even worse they will take it and write that they are using non-environmental materials, as they often do. For Europeans, the main thing is for Green to be all, supposedly clean, environmentally friendly, ridiculously
  • dimon-media
    dimon-media 28 September 2013 09: 02 New
    +6
    And in my opinion it would be better if they shot and this vessel of the Greenpeace would be sunk. Our economic waters, near our strategic object, an attempt to penetrate on that .. Che something ceremony? Another “terrorist" would think the next thousand times. A precedent of firm will and tough decision would be created. It's time to destroy the association with soft-bodied mattresses. Then, of course, they would have turned in the West for pro forma, and that’s all! Get used to chtoli? Moreover, any Western sanctions are not applicable to modern Russia. Well, no matter how! Especially when right.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 28 September 2013 10: 15 New
      +8
      Quote: dimon-media
      shot and this vessel Greenpeace would have sunk

      What for? Under the law, an intruder vessel may be confiscated. That is what needs to be done. An extra icebreaker will not hurt our fleet.
      1. Airman
        Airman 28 September 2013 10: 53 New
        0
        Quote: lewerlin53rus

        What for? Under the law, an intruder vessel may be confiscated. That is what needs to be done. An extra icebreaker will not hurt our fleet.

        After 2 months they will be released with an apology.
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 28 September 2013 15: 48 New
          0
          Quote: Povshnik
          After 2 months they will be released with an apology.

          Maybe)). In the information war, the main thing is not action, but the threat of action)).
        2. Airman
          Airman 28 September 2013 16: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: Povshnik
          ]
          After 2 months they will be released with an apology.

          Minusers, after 2 months, or maybe earlier, the ship will be returned to the owner, and then we'll see who was right. They would be called to know who to contact.
      2. Memorandum
        Memorandum 29 September 2013 22: 50 New
        0
        This is an old, rusty trough of Rosmorport, even for inside port harbors it is not necessary for nothing ... Confiscate, put up for auction and if no one buys to sell on needles ...
    2. 77bor1973
      77bor1973 28 September 2013 12: 38 New
      +2
      At one time, the French drowned the Rainbow, $ 8.5 million in compensation for the old seiner.
  • Rezun
    Rezun 28 September 2013 09: 14 New
    +5
    Then the "heroic" photographer "lit up" ...

    http://oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051612725#comments
  • Borat
    Borat 28 September 2013 09: 20 New
    +2
    The heading is unsuccessful - to compare Russia with Raskolnikov?! ...
    1. Belogor
      Belogor 28 September 2013 10: 38 New
      +1
      I agree with you 100%. I wanted to write the same, but you got ahead.
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 28 September 2013 09: 22 New
    +3
    Who is Shvonderovich, and why does someone care about his “opinion”.
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 28 September 2013 09: 50 New
    +1
    They covered for two months, this is good, but not enough. I hope to feel all the "charms" of our system and the next time before taking up the order they will think "seven times". bully
  • individual
    individual 28 September 2013 09: 58 New
    +2
    Russia is a country of half measures.
    We don’t go to the end, we always stop halfway, leaving room for the enemy’s maneuver.
    Even recent events force the president to make excuses.
    Or take Georgia 08.08.08. When, after known events, we could update the "reservoir" with clean water, but no, we left a stinking puddle stinking with every fair wind towards Russia.
    For Russia, democratic values ​​are weaknesses, and the weak, as you know, are beaten and pecked.
  • ando_bor
    ando_bor 28 September 2013 10: 13 New
    +1
    I think it’s not at all appropriate to react to Shenderovich.
    Anyway, on this resource.
    1. Dober
      Dober 28 September 2013 12: 05 New
      0
      Quote: ando_bor
      I think it’s not at all appropriate to react to Shenderovich.
      Anyway, on this resource.

      good
      Place this "news" on the forum sex therapists.
      Under the heading "How quickly get aroused from ..."
  • Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 28 September 2013 10: 14 New
    +3
    to talk in principle about the impudence of a prostitute named Greenpeace is one thing.
    but at the same time also mention in the press the rapist of mattresses - do not respect yourself ...
    who, this trickster will teach us?
    armpit mattress-station -the promised land !!!
  • Vlad_Mir
    Vlad_Mir 28 September 2013 10: 16 New
    +1
    Law is law! And he must be respected!
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 28 September 2013 20: 11 New
      0
      Quote: Vlad_Mir
      Law is law! And he must be respected!

      Read the Constitution of the Russian Federation ...
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 28 September 2013 10: 30 New
    0
    <<< But this is the States! They are allowed, for they are not trembling, but the most, for our Shenderovichs, is reverence, very, very! Well, and Russia, therefore, must squeeze forever in the form of a trembling creature, which can easily be climbed with ropes and without ropes, and in response it cannot even utter a peep! >>>
    This is what infuriates the Shvonderovichs paid by the West and the similar liberal trash that Russia does not want to be a "trembling creature", gets rid of the existing habit of looking back at the West in its actions and acts on the basis of its interests and laws! And since the Russian authorities obviously do not consider it possible to cover up the activity of this seam from the 5th column (and it should), the best answer to all these drooling and screaming from the geymocratic gateway would be simply not to notice them and calmly do their job!
  • marder4
    marder4 28 September 2013 11: 15 New
    0
    Shenderovich is always dissatisfied with the desire of the Russian Federation to assert its rights, how come we are going against the states, and this is not good !!!
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 28 September 2013 11: 54 New
    +7
    And where were Shenderovich and Greenpeace when the tower gushed with oil in the Gulf of Mexico? There is no need to protect nature? Or in Japan, the water after cooling the emergency reactor is poured into the ocean, are they not there yet?
    Greenpeace people are definitely puppets of the United States with such similar attitudes towards countries and world events!
  • olviko
    olviko 28 September 2013 11: 54 New
    +6
    They did it right, everything is according to the law. And let Shenderovich rub Israel against how bad it is to seize other people's ships in neutral waters!
    "Israeli special forces carried out an operation to intercept the Freedom Flotilla from six ships, which included at least 600 human rights defenders, most of them Turkish citizens, who were sent to a blocked Palestinian enclave with humanitarian aid. The number of victims of the Israeli special operation reached 19 people. Israelis confirm death nine. "
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 28 September 2013 20: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: olviko
      Correctly done, everything is according to the law

      Wow - they can when they want laughing
  • HAM
    HAM 28 September 2013 12: 01 New
    +1
    You’ll see how much the scream will be like with “little birds”. You have swung at the “holy”, at the paid “defenders”.
  • Crang
    Crang 28 September 2013 12: 44 New
    -14
    What a good president we have a. How honest he is. And what kind of bad and evil these damned USA are they? And if you think about it?
    There is a country of the USA. In the United States, there is power that only their own country and their own people care about. The US authorities simply do not care about all the rest. The United States spits on all world agreements, spits on other countries, spits on the norms of morality and justice. It is necessary to bomb a foreign country for some profit? Not a question - they bomb. And as soon as the matter concerns the citizens of their own country, everything is quite honest and democratic here. The policy of double standards: US citizens have one democracy, and everything else has a different "democracy." Is it good or bad - it seems to be bad, BUT how are things going with us?
    And we have this "democracy", things are accurate to the converselybut because much worse than in the USA. Judge for yourself - as soon as the matter concerns some kind of world foreign issues, other countries, other peoples - so our president is simply an ideal of honesty and justice. As soon as the matter concerns one’s country and one’s people, one immediately sees who is who. Democracy and justice immediately disappears somewhere, and what appears to be what the USA has when they bomb someone: stupid silence and silence, and against the background of this silence incredible savagery, cruelty, injustice and impudence are happening. Here are examples of democracy for their people:
    - November 27, 2012 - everyone remembers and will not forget. Spit in the face of the whole Russian people and showed that he is today.
    - completely calm, without bothering yourself with such trifles as referendum, he took and increased his presidential term from 4 to 6 years (the people, how would they choose him for 4 years, maybe he should be asked? - Is this the main principle of democracy?) So Hugo Chavez held a referendum on this issue and the people said their word. And our president decided not to bother with such trifles. Tomorrow the elections will be canceled altogether, and just the same, everything will be easy and simple.
    - about the huge tribute to the Caucasian bandits, at our expense and at the same time, in essence raising them to the status of first-class people who can do everything and who will not be anything for their lawlessness. Here is another sign of the bright "democracy" of our "fair" (on the Syrian issue) president.
    - about the dictatorship of the court, the very type of “independent” court that judges as it should and does not really get any justice from it. Judges can do everything: imprison innocent people for life, let go of thugs and bandits, that is, commit the most serious crimes worse than Chakotilo and at the same time they won’t have anything for it. Although everyone knows, but he is a judge - consider God to whom everything is possible. Against this background, Article 19, paragraph 2: The state guarantees the equality of the rights and freedoms of man and citizen regardless of gender, race, nationality, language, origin, property and official position, place of residence, religion, beliefs, affiliation with public associations, as well as other circumstances. It looks already just funny.
    - a ban on protests (to protest, whatever you do and even get together together is no longer possible). You can only rejoice and wipe yourself.
    - etc. etc. what we see now every day.
    So there are two opposing versions of democracy: the American version and the Russian version. Personally, the American version is closer to me, even though I consider the United States to be our enemy. The article is entitled "Russia is trembling or has its right?" For me personally, the answer is so far obvious.
    1. stranik72
      stranik72 28 September 2013 13: 35 New
      +8
      "And as soon as the matter concerns the citizens of their own country, everything is quite honest and democratic here."
      Well, just remove the pinkish sneakers from under the nose. And without wine they planted and killed, about honest ships google from the realm of fantasy too, with a corresponding request, it will be very instructive for you, and the democracy there is also peculiar. And since I don’t give a damn about this fascist country called the USA, I think sooner or later it will drown in the blood that has been sucked from other nations. My country is much more important to me, but here I agree to dirt and stink enough, but there is an opportunity to fix it and this is already our task.
    2. CTEPX
      CTEPX 28 September 2013 16: 07 New
      0
      Quote: HAM
      quite calmly, without bothering himself with such trifles as a referendum, he took and increased his presidential term

      Are you talking about Medvedev? I respect)).
      Quote: Krang
      Personally, the American version is closer to me, even though I consider the United States to be our enemy.

      Do not flatter yourself)). Such an enemy must be earned))
    3. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 28 September 2013 18: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: Krang
      So there are two opposing versions of democracy: the American version and the Russian version. Personally, the American version is closer to me, even though I consider the United States to be our enemy. The article is entitled "Russia is trembling or has its right?" For me personally, the answer is so far obvious.

      AND THIS IS WHOSE OPTION? Article 31 states that citizens have the right to assemble freely and without ......
      1. Crang
        Crang 28 September 2013 20: 00 New
        -1
        Exactly. At least one person understood what I mean.
    4. Cynic
      Cynic 28 September 2013 20: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Krang
      For me personally, the answer is so far obvious.

      You yourself, as part of Russia, know better.
      yes
      1. Crang
        Crang 28 September 2013 20: 16 New
        0
        Well, in comparison with you, we are still very good.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 28 September 2013 20: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Krang
          y compared to you we still very good.

          Excuse Your Majesty for unacceptable speculation.
          hi
  • SPACE
    SPACE 28 September 2013 12: 47 New
    +7
    It is necessary to equip each oil rig with Yakhont, the Carapace and the recognition system of their own alien ... The excuses are justifications for the weak, they would have drowned if there weren’t more hunters, let the obituaries print the west and answer the questions hanging in the air.
    Z.Y. There is nothing more to comment on here.
    1. alone
      alone 28 September 2013 20: 14 New
      0
      can immediately poplar-m put there? and then yachont, shell scale shallow
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 28 September 2013 20: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        can immediately poplar-m put there? and then yachont, shell scale shallow

        What for ?
        To oblige oilmen to pay for the duty of nuclear submarines at the towers, it will not be enough, let them order new ones into a pool!
        drinks
  • avg
    avg 28 September 2013 13: 04 New
    +5
    Each decent person, having met Shenderovich, is simply obliged to give him a kick, or, if he is very well-mannered, to say a couple of "kind words"
  • rks5317
    rks5317 28 September 2013 13: 25 New
    +5
    How long will the media offer us the opinion of SHENDEROVICH, ABRAMOVICH, YARD and other Ya..v ??? They (the media) generally do not have self-esteem or are 100% owned by the above ... EVICHI ??? Then give a complete boycott of the M / M media !!!
  • KononAV
    KononAV 28 September 2013 13: 27 New
    -1
    It’s time to shoot for a long time. Within the country and abroad.
  • rks5317
    rks5317 28 September 2013 13: 30 New
    0
    How long will the media feed us with the views of SHENDEROVICH, ABRAMOVICH, YARD, and others ... WHAT ??? Let Israel share their passions ... m opinion. RUSSIAN- DO NOT NEED US to know their opinion on any issue !!!
    1. German
      German 28 September 2013 14: 28 New
      +2
      what would successfully fight the enemy, you need to know and understand his ideology and opinion on certain issues!
  • Troy
    Troy 28 September 2013 13: 32 New
    0
    Quote: rks5317
    How long will the media offer us the opinion of SHENDEROVICH, ABRAMOVICH, YARD and other Ya..v ??? They (the media) generally do not have self-esteem or are 100% owned by the above ... EVICHI ??? Then give a complete boycott of the M / M media !!!

    Until we cut them out or send them to their historical homeland.
  • chushoj
    chushoj 28 September 2013 13: 47 New
    0
    A station is a sensitive facility where people work, not a passage yard. Russian law is not appropriate here. An uninvited guest at the station is worse than Shenderovich.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 28 September 2013 13: 49 New
    +1
    I wonder how much Shenderovich’s position cost?
    Well, I don’t believe in such a devotion of our Jew to Greenpeace affairs. Moreover, this team was convicted a couple of times in upholding other people's interests, that is, it was an instrument of a strategy of influence.
    1. chushoj
      chushoj 28 September 2013 14: 55 New
      +3
      At first glance it seems that the Shenderovichs were given an order and they are perverted. From my practice, I can say, but you will not believe, Shenderovich really do not understand literary images and legal laws. Their main task is to confuse the situation with the involvement of the most uneducated and primitive citizens, and to confront everyone with everyone so that they fight among themselves, and the Shenderovichs are divided by the devidents. Once again, they don’t understand either the meaning of the law or literary images, they take either physical strength or mass.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 28 September 2013 21: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: chushoj
        Shenderovich really do not understand literary images and legal laws. Their main task is to confuse the situation with the involvement of the most uneducated and primitive citizens,

        Let me disagree, I do not believe in stupid Jews.
        Most likely it looks like this somewhere ......
  • uizik
    uizik 28 September 2013 14: 05 New
    +2
    Let this Malay redeem the original sin of his ancestors. We ourselves will take care of ourselves. The actions of the border guards are legal. Keep it up!
  • German
    German 28 September 2013 14: 23 New
    +1
    Well, why be surprised: only the surname already speaks quite frankly-SHENDEROVICH! or did you want to hear RUSSIA from it?
  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 28 September 2013 14: 56 New
    +4
    Very clearly defined by this organization, Julia Latynina - Greenpeace is Ecological Al Qaeda!
  • antidote
    antidote 28 September 2013 15: 17 New
    0
    Shenderovich was honored, now they are talking about him on this resource
  • kaktus
    kaktus 28 September 2013 15: 27 New
    0
    Quote: antidot
    Shenderovich was honored, now they are talking about him on this resource


    that's it, free PR
  • CTEPX
    CTEPX 28 September 2013 15: 49 New
    -1
    Quote: ctepx
    Quote: Semen Semenych
    When patriots will be in power in Russia

    Russia is big)). And if in the Kremlin we seem to have a patriot in power, then the chairmen of the government and top officials in the regions, as a rule, are the enemies of Russia)).
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 28 September 2013 16: 26 New
    0
    Russian law enforcement agencies should bring this story to a logical conclusion with an attack on an offshore drilling rig by Greenpeace representatives. There must be an investigation and there must be a court. If this whole story ends in information hype, confidence in the Russian judiciary will fall even more (although there’s nowhere to fall ...)
  • Klava
    Klava 28 September 2013 16: 51 New
    +1
    "... the attacker, even with a dummy, is obliged to rally completely for robbery." - gold words.
    And it’s time to ignore Shenderovich as dog excrement.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 28 September 2013 17: 35 New
      0
      Quote: Klava
      It’s time to ignore Shenderovich as dog excrement.

      So this is difficult. Even by accident, if you step on, crush, there is little that is disgusting and you will smear, because it stinks godlessly.
  • rotor
    rotor 28 September 2013 18: 06 New
    0
    Shenderovich? And who is it?
    1. MRomanovich
      MRomanovich 28 September 2013 18: 22 New
      0
      Quote: rotor
      Shenderovich? And who is it?

      very bad person however
  • olviko
    olviko 28 September 2013 18: 10 New
    0
    The image of the West, as a defender of all rights and freedoms, has recently dimmed, especially in connection with Snowden and the events in Syria. To raise the image, we went off the beaten track, we urgently need some kind of provocation against Russia - for centuries this policy has been carried out, the dog was eaten in this matter. So the green letter decided to fall into this stream, to make its own contribution to the struggle against barbarian Russia, so to speak.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 28 September 2013 20: 24 New
      0
      Quote: olviko
      lately

      Thanks - neighing laughing
  • MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 28 September 2013 18: 16 New
    0
    It will be a big mistake if these Greenpeace workers get off easily. They should be given the maximum time possible. I am very afraid that they would not be sent home by the honest word of their authorities that they would be spanked a little and severely threatened with a finger.
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  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 28 September 2013 19: 05 New
    0
    These activists give in. Bitch children. Why don't they do it on the drilling platforms of Norway? Why don't they go to Qatar and do the same there? Creatures. And Qatar then barbarically pumps gas out of the ground. Why don’t they do it in America? Let these creatures be silent. And let them get a decent punishment. am
  • coserg 2012
    coserg 2012 28 September 2013 19: 47 New
    0
    Shenderovich, if so cool, tell me the amount that you paid, soo ... ah.
  • Letterksi
    Letterksi 28 September 2013 20: 00 New
    +2
    Oh yeah! It was not without Putin. It was he who, probably, organized the defense of the tower from Greenpeace. Maybe it’s better to plant Putin for eight years Shenderovich, but not one than Kvachkov? So no, the Shenderovichs everywhere are pushing up easily and not forcibly, not at all fearing for the consequences
  • pensioner
    pensioner 28 September 2013 20: 19 New
    +1
    Is Russia trembling, or has its right?
    The article is basically sensible. But. We all know who first expressed this idea. And in whose mouth she put it ... She is drawn to a complete provocation. But I hope that I just moved over ... That after 12 hours of work in the rain and cold, an elderly person is excusable ... Forgive the Author! But the name greatly alarmed me ...
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 28 September 2013 20: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: retired
      But the name made me very alert.

      Yes, the name is meaningful, but also meaningful.
      Fyodor Mikhailovich liked to wrap up such-and-such a type about a baby's tear.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 28 September 2013 20: 38 New
    0
    why do we need RUSSIA to reckon with all kinds of fleas such as greenpeace, when a flea bites it you need to press it and kick to the side