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Russian women will learn to drive tanks

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In the Amur region began to prepare the first in the Russian army of women-tankers. Within half a year, two crews will master combat vehicles. And next year they will take part in a tank biathlon, which is decided to hold regularly.


- Girls, now the tank returns to the starting line, the mechanics keep the distance between the 50-75 machines meters to get to the starting line.

The appeal to these novice tankers is not yet known. But this is no longer an excursion. Three friends Natalya, Olga and Elena - crew tank T-72. For two weeks now they have been studying the device of this military machine every day, learning to hit various targets on simulators, and using a headset.

“The girls are very emotional when they hit the target, clap their hands, rejoice, they like it, they want to do more and more, and they want to show it all at the training ground,” said platoon commander Peter Dvoretsky.

At the tankodrome, the tasks are the simplest: to get into a tank, start a formidable car and start off. With this task, Olga Douzhenko, the future driver-mechanic, copes perfectly well. There is no fear of an armored vehicle. The women's crews in the motorized rifle brigade of the Amursky Arms Association were formed after the Ministry of Defense decided: tank tank biathlon competitions will now be held annually and both men and women will take part in it.

"I made a decision, I selected two crews to have a spirit of competition between them. Of course, women were selected voluntarily. Everyone expressed a desire, they want to serve. While in my practice, there were no women crew members, if the experiment succeeds, we will appoint women to the position of tank commanders, driver, "- says. Vasily Mushlanov, commander of a motorized rifle brigade of the Supreme Military District.

In the experimental T-72 crews, only women are military personnel. Natalya Sulikova has given the army more than one year, in her part she is in charge of the warehouse. In the tank she was immediately recognized as the main one. She is the crew commander, responsible for everyone.

“We have been serving for a long time, I want the spirit of the competition, in the brigade we have this structure. We want to try it, there were a lot of people willing, we were chosen,” said Natalia.

Male colleagues to the training of experimental crews are serious and responsible. Orders are not used to discuss here. But please help.

Dmitry Usik, commander of a tank battalion: “I don’t get it yet, they are heavy, the armor doesn’t like weak muscles, so for now we’re helping, it’s difficult to climb the machine, take our regular places, but we will practice, we will practice, we will girls will show class at these competitions. "

Now six future tankers are trained in driving in their unit. After the exams, the best crew will undergo fire training in a tank training regiment in the Khabarovsk Territory. Then the most interesting will begin - the competition for the right to be the best tank crew in the country.
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  1. il grand casino
    il grand casino 27 September 2013 11: 16 New
    +2
    Something tells me that if three young ladies decide to master a combat vehicle, they will do it better than many men))) Just let them ride parades and exercises ... but God forbid in war
    1. Siberian German
      Siberian German 27 September 2013 11: 30 New
      17
      Mlyn Baba lived behind the levers of the tank
      1. Canep
        Canep 27 September 2013 11: 42 New
        15
        I was told about such a picture by those who served in the Chunjin OPulAB (a separate machine gun and artillery battalion). There, the battalion commander decided that combat training concerned everyone, and planted women from the combat unit as mechanical water guides. And this is during the final check of the combat readiness of the unit. One young lady did something wrong and the tank died out. A colonel, a believer from the commission of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan, runs up to the tank, begins to yell at him. When he saw the face of the driver’s mechanic, the men say that he choked on his own words. laughing laughing laughing
        1. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru 27 September 2013 12: 53 New
          12
          hi
          Russian women will learn to drive tanks

          They should not be taught to drive tanks, but cabbage soup or borsch is normal - edible to cook!
          And then shame, they get married, but besides scrambled eggs, well, or to brew tea in a bag, at best, they don’t know what.
          I'm not talking about darn socks or sewing on a button.
          And they are tanks, tanks ...
          1. I am a Russian
            I am a Russian 27 September 2013 14: 51 New
            10
            Quote: Apologet.Ru
            They should not be taught to drive tanks, but cabbage soup or borsch is normal - edible to cook!


            ... bring up children
          2. Rumata
            Rumata 27 September 2013 14: 55 New
            -10
            Quote: Apologet.Ru
            They should not be taught to drive tanks, but cabbage soup or borsch is normal - edible to cook!

            Horror ... I read how in the century before last I moved, where women were horn-ready-giveers and all. Realizes himself as a person ?? What nonsense, anu march to the kitchen and then darn my socks ...
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 27 September 2013 16: 06 New
              +5
              Quote: Rumata
              Anu march to the kitchen and then me darn my socks ..

              But constantly there is no need to warm and push. And in general, there is a desire to engage in feminism, the whole of Israel is at hand. Forward.
              1. igor67
                igor67 27 September 2013 17: 20 New
                +5
                . And then they give birth and cook well, and at our workplace women begin to ask each other who served where and immediately army tales, and then about shopping
            2. velikoros-xnumx
              velikoros-xnumx 27 September 2013 19: 52 New
              +4
              Horror ... I read how in the century before last I moved, where women were horn-ready-giveers and all. Realizes himself as a person ?? What nonsense, anu march to the kitchen and then darn my socks ...

              Is it better to shoot-kill-lesbians? A woman must be a woman, and a man a man. Otherwise, it is a direct road to the rule of LGBT ideology.
              1. igor67
                igor67 27 September 2013 23: 16 New
                -4
                Quote: velikoros-xnumx
                Horror ... I read how in the century before last I moved, where women were horn-ready-giveers and all. Realizes himself as a person ?? What nonsense, anu march to the kitchen and then darn my socks ...

                Is it better to shoot-kill-lesbians? A woman must be a woman, and a man a man. Otherwise, it is a direct road to the rule of LGBT ideology.

                There is no dear, the woman is still a man, and the motivation for defending the Motherland, the family she has also developed, the only thing this should not be window dressing, such as to teach in this case for tank biathlon, if the girls have the desire and zeal to defend the Motherland, wants to be a tankman or pilot please
              2. Rumata
                Rumata 28 September 2013 07: 42 New
                -2
                Quote: velikoros-xnumx
                Is it better to shoot-kill-lesbians? A woman must be a woman, and a man a man. Otherwise, it is a direct road to the rule of LGBT ideology.

                A woman should do what she wants. To be a tanker, if there is such an opportunity in the country, as a pilot, trucker, rugby player. The fact that you want to come home to a prepared soup and not full of socks does not mean that everything should be so. I wonder if the wife earns more, which is not uncommon now, will you cook the soup?
          3. Walking
            Walking 27 September 2013 17: 08 New
            +6
            You made a mistake, these women know how to cook and darn and sew borshch, glamorous girls who don’t crawl out of night clubs do not know how to lure them into the tank.
            1. Sergh
              Sergh 27 September 2013 18: 44 New
              +1
              Quote: Hiking
              You made a mistake, these women know how to cook and darn and sew, glamorous girls from night clubs who don’t get out

              Vitaliy! That's for sure you noticed here. Even he answered a lot of questions.
              Or maybe it is true, i.e. little to turn our youth from a pernicious, depraved stream? These women certainly will not go to war, but they will show the example and the prestige of the army and the Russian soldier to the whole country and beyond.
              I don’t see anything shameful in this event, all the more so, if I really want and a big desire, then I myself will cheer for all of them at the competitions!
              And you can teach anyone:

              1. OffenroR
                OffenroR 28 September 2013 01: 25 New
                +2
                Girl spoiling a hike wassat
          4. I am
            I am 27 September 2013 21: 54 New
            +3
            Oh, you don’t care !!!!! Not all such dolls as you describe !!! For example, I’m able to make tea not only in a bag)))))))) and even cook, I don’t have to mind much. And then, why is no one yelling that the peasants-cooks have become at all unmeasured ??? Where's the justice? During the Second World War, a girl flew from the regiment of “Night Witches” on planes and nothing more difficult than a tank to drive !!!!!
            I want it too, let's get a tank here !!!!!!!!
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 27 September 2013 22: 23 New
              +2
              Well, here you have a tank, enjoy laughing
          5. shtabs
            shtabs 28 September 2013 08: 28 New
            0
            don’t make a mess about cabbage soup and darn, like it, let it serve even in a tank, even in a submarine, if only the border would be useful ..
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 27 September 2013 13: 46 New
          +5
          Quote: Canep
          When he saw the face of the driver’s mechanic, the men say that he choked on his own words.

          This is useful
      2. OffenroR
        OffenroR 27 September 2013 12: 02 New
        +5
        Poor women .... as soon as their life does not torment))) True ... in this case they are "comrade volunteers"))
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 27 September 2013 15: 39 New
          +4
          Quote: OffenroR
          in this case, they are "fellow volunteers"))

          In this case, they hit their head.
      3. xetai9977
        xetai9977 27 September 2013 12: 13 New
        10
        All the same, war is not for women. It is gratifying of course that there are women who love their homeland. But they can be beneficial in other industries. And crawling in the mud, rushing to the enemy’s trenches with a bayonet-knife at the ready and fighting hand-to-hand with the enemy is clearly not a female matter.
      4. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 27 September 2013 12: 23 New
        10
        and what? in WWII, they fed the whole country, plowed on cows ... and they collected tanks with their bare hands in the cold, we have them! smile
        1. JonnyT
          JonnyT 27 September 2013 14: 40 New
          +6
          and not only! Some of them fought well with tanks

          During the years of World War II, about two dozen women became tankers. There were only three women who graduated from tank schools. Former medical instructor Levchenko, Irina Nikolaevna - in 1943 she graduated from the crash course of the Stalingrad Tank School and served as a liaison officer of the 41 Guards Tank Brigade, commanded the T-60 light tank group. Alexandra Leontyevna Boyko (Morisheva) - in 1943 she graduated from the Chelyabinsk Tank Technical School and fought in the IS-2 heavy tank. And only Evgenia Sergeyevna Kostrikova, after graduating from the Kazan Tank School, commanded a tank platoon, and at the end of the war - a tank company

          I’m still against it. War is a man’s business. We must be a defense and support for our women. But if it comes to survival then there is nowhere to go!

          In the photo Maria Oktyabrskaya. The hero of the USSR. Woman Tankman.
          1. dmitreach
            dmitreach 27 September 2013 15: 10 New
            +2
            Maria Oktyabrskaya - The Legend!
        2. xetai9977
          xetai9977 27 September 2013 15: 20 New
          +6
          Sorry for the physiology, but what about the "critical days"? Will you agree with the enemy to cancel the attack and stop shelling? Organize the delivery of gaskets and additional water carriers?
      5. Pimply
        Pimply 27 September 2013 13: 45 New
        +1
        Do not believe it, but not one or two dozen years ago have survived to this.
      6. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 27 September 2013 16: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: Siberian German
        Siberian German

        I would like to see how they will collect the caterpillar. Or for them specially re-battalion seconded? But it was similar when female columns appeared in taxi cabs, many years ago.
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 27 September 2013 11: 35 New
      +5
      Quote: il grand casino
      Just let them ride parades and exercises ... but God forbid in war

      Another female crew will soon appear near St. Petersburg. The commanders ordered the apartment to be handed over to the winner of the female tank biathlon, and now they are gathering people who want it. But in general, this is not a female matter!
      1. OffenroR
        OffenroR 27 September 2013 13: 52 New
        +2
        Say they give out an apartment?))) I agree to participate in this biathlon (I'll make up for a woman who herself looks like a tank))))) Excellent .. I’ll win, I will give the apartment some kind of “tank-new” and then quietly and quietly “get hooked”. ... I will have every right to do so))))
    3. Natalia
      Natalia 27 September 2013 11: 45 New
      +4
      Russian women will learn to drive tanks

      Worthy.
      It is also necessary to allow women to control combat fighters, and indeed to military aviation. Not only the Soviet experience, but also the Russian one shows that women in the sky are no worse (and maybe better) than many men.

      PS it’s enough to recall Svetlana Kapanina, the aerobatics of which I observed at the last MAKS in Zhukovsky, this is fantastic, well, just acheme ....
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 27 September 2013 11: 50 New
        13
        Quote: Natalia
        It is also necessary to allow women to control combat fighters, and indeed to military aviation.

        Natalia, let's still not level up sports aerobatics and battle tanks. How in the field will the female crew eliminate at least minor breakdowns? Or do they also have to drive a remvzvod?
        1. tronin.maxim
          tronin.maxim 27 September 2013 12: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          How in the field will the female crew eliminate at least minor breakdowns?

          Can wear an exoskeleton. what
          1. I am
            I am 27 September 2013 22: 08 New
            +1
            exoskeleton ??? Dear replayed in the stalker ???? But there are no tools and everything else? Or 4 men in the field will also be able to repair the tank directly "like new." It may be difficult with the chassis, but the engine from under the armored plate is still not available, so .... depending on what and how to repair it? Well, or lay out here the operating instructions for the T-72 or something (only it is with the signature of the chipboard).
          2. Volkhov
            Volkhov 28 September 2013 00: 44 New
            +1
            Quote: tronin.maxim
            Can wear an exoskeleton.

            They have an interesting feature (not all) to develop great efforts or speed in an extreme situation. The real witches will survive ...
            Somehow my cow fell off the back of the bridge, but caught on with its front hooves, made an exit by force and climbed back, throwing its hind leg. Incredibly, the fact did not show any interest in the horizontal bar. A fighting and intelligent animal in other respects, but not all of them are a soul lottery ...
        2. Natalia
          Natalia 27 September 2013 12: 21 New
          +4
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Natalia, let's still not level off sports aerobatics and battle tanks.

          let's ... but only women should be in aviation. In the USA there are women in the Air Force, in China there are, in Israel there are (there are generally female special forces), in the USSR there were also. Neglecting women in the army, Russia will only lose.
          Quote: Vladimirets
          How in the field will the female crew eliminate at least minor breakdowns?

          ... handles of course, and if the handles are not sharpened, then men will go for reprimand. In addition, women are more diligent and attentive, if the woman is properly trained, then she and the nail file will disassemble and collect the floor of the tank.
          1. Natalia
            Natalia 27 September 2013 12: 37 New
            0
            You
            Quote: il grand casino
            il grand casino

            and you
            Quote: Siberian German
            Siberian German

            and you
            Quote: OffenroR
            OffenroR

            and you
            Quote: xetai9977
            xetai9977

            and you
            Quote: APASUS
            APASUS

            and even you
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Vladimirets

            MINUS negative
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 27 September 2013 12: 45 New
              13
              Quote: Natalia
              and even you
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Vladimirets
              MINUS

              I will accept and put up with a woman to argue a dead number. I hope you will not blame male chauvinism. smile
              Quote: Natalia
              ... handles of course, and if the handles are not sharpened, then men will go for reprimand. In addition, women are more diligent and attentive,

              The point is not the attentiveness or impossibility of a woman to understand the structure of the tank, the fact is that it is a very difficult service and a very hard dirty job. A tank is not a Daewoo Matiz; in the field, at least clean the trunk with a bannican and that’s enough.
              1. demeen1
                demeen1 27 September 2013 13: 08 New
                +2
                And for our women, we’ll clean the barrel with a drum and a bannic and dig out a tank from the mud with a nail file, we are beautiful women, athletes in general, many peasants need to equal them. And beauties are prepared only for biathlon.
                1. novobranets
                  novobranets 27 September 2013 15: 57 New
                  +8
                  Quote: demeen1
                  dig out a tank with a nail file from the dirt, we have beauties, athletes

                  For a week they will not clean one truck of dirt from a nail file.
                  we’ll appoint women to the post of tank commanders, driver, "says the acting commander of the motorized rifle brigade of the BBO Vasily Mushlanov.
                  It is interesting that he said when he overslept, hungover and came to his senses. How long will this nonsense continue? Now is not a war, why are these show-offs. The girls decided to amuse their ambitions, someone to prove something, well, they will paint on the covers and in the newspapers. Once a ride, and then at night the whole platoon will repair the car, and the heroines will sleep sweetly. This has already passed. At first it was funny to read such articles, but a repeated joke begins to annoy. negative
              2. Canep
                Canep 27 September 2013 13: 41 New
                +2
                Quote: Vladimirets
                The point is not the attentiveness or impossibility of a woman to understand the structure of the tank, the fact is that it is a very difficult service and a very hard dirty job.
                I do not agree with you, half of the peasants in Russia arrange such a life for their women that the field exit of the tank unit in winter will seem like a jaunt for these women. And as for technology, if there is a desire, then it will be mastered by anyone. Even the bears in the circus were taught to ride motorcycles.
                Quote: Vladimirets
                Tank is not Daewoo Matiz
                The main difference in sight is the caterpillars instead of wheels, everything else in the tank is simply bigger than in Matiz.
                In SPTU, in our group there were a lot of girls and everyone mastered the profession of a general machine operator, CNC operator. Take the word to master a milling machine is not easy. Several girls left with an increased (4) rank.

                Although fighting this is certainly not a female occupation, all my friends who participated in the hostilities (mainly Afghanistan) have a slightly cuckoo cuckoo.
                1. Vladimirets
                  Vladimirets 27 September 2013 14: 37 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Canep
                  I do not agree with you

                  I have my own opinion, you have your own, but Alex TV perfectly painted everything below:

                  Quote: Aleks tv
                  The question is different:
                  Who will service this car and how?
                  The tank quite a bit of time "fucks up and fucks up" ... More often than not, it’s constantly, long, painstaking uh-uh ... "mumble".
                  Pull out 4 battery? To clean the air filter? Replace the "harp"?
                  No further listing?
                  There are works that have not spoiled the female body. I do not laugh (in no case), but I'm talking about ordinary physiology.
                  1. I am
                    I am 27 September 2013 22: 13 New
                    -1
                    Well, yes, a battery weighs 150 kilos each. So what ????? Is the armored plate above the engine lifted by a beam crane, a filter, and is it much larger than the Kirovets?
                    Already list, read, suddenly wiser)))))
                2. novobranets
                  novobranets 27 September 2013 16: 28 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Canep
                  cuckoo slightly on one side.

                  Slightly? wassat
              3. Egoza
                Egoza 27 September 2013 14: 51 New
                +3
                Quote: Vladimirets
                The tank is not Daewoo Matiz,

                That's it! First, train on the tank, then you can change to Daewoo. And then you crash into a new car - wow, the car will be! laughing
              4. dmitreach
                dmitreach 27 September 2013 15: 15 New
                +2
                Once, once, I watched from a train window a team of lineman. Orange vests. Specialty. Crowbar and sledgehammer in corpus callosum. All women. To put it mildly: I was in touch, from a sight.
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 27 September 2013 19: 39 New
                  +4
                  Anecdote: An ad in a newspaper-sleeper, an experience of 15 years looking for work, not to offer sex!
            2. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 27 September 2013 12: 55 New
              +9
              Natalia, you are merciless today ....))))))))))))
              1. dmitreach
                dmitreach 27 September 2013 15: 01 New
                +2
                sorry the picture is not ours, but Nekrasov was right!

                In the game of her horse, not words,

                In trouble, it will not creep - it will save:

                Stop a galloping horse,

                In the burning hut!
                1. dmitreach
                  dmitreach 27 September 2013 15: 03 New
                  +4
                  such beauties!
                  1. OffenroR
                    OffenroR 27 September 2013 15: 37 New
                    +5
                    Take Anu away from her this SVD .... this is not a toy. And remove this form from her ... it’s better to let her run naked ...
                  2. novobranets
                    novobranets 27 September 2013 18: 23 New
                    +1
                    I always liked such staged pictures, they are so rzhachnye. laughing
                    1. dmitreach
                      dmitreach 27 September 2013 19: 20 New
                      0
                      I can’t find her page in contact again (there were two pages from one user, which in the photo, I forgot to sign the file with her name) the photo was taken at some kind of training camp, or all-around ... so she has some attitude ... to say the least ...
                      so your humor is not about this fighting girlfriend.
                      1. VAF
                        VAF 27 September 2013 20: 28 New
                        +5
                        Quote: dmitreach
                        and so it has something to do with the airborne forces ... to put it mildly ...
                        so your humor is not about this fighting girlfriend.


                        The girl from "Contacts" in front of the eyes of "soldier Jane" is constantly standing wink .So to Hollywood and Demi Moore ... she is very far away.
                        And in the photo, yes ... the girl managed to dream with a famous person.
                        He never refuses anyone. especially in public places!

                        But in fact ... my namesake Badiuk in the "world" teaches the toughest style of karate .. Okinawan Goju-Ryu.
                        If you are even a little familiar with this "school", then the very question of .. "weak field" disappears completely.
                        Yes, Sergey very often happens at seminars and gatherings in various special units and divisions of all military branches.
                        And I dare to assure you that nowhere in the reconnaissance and sabotage groups is there a "weaker sex" in the person of scouts or saboteurs.
                        ask Irbis. maybe the "pinnipeds" suddenly ... ladies = specialists appeared ... I don’t know lol
                        So koment at the expense of togg. what would the girl "pick up" SVD .. once in a topic soldier
                      2. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2013 20: 36 New
                        +3
                        http://owap.so/one746605/#nav Она же вроде.Как ты говоришь Сереж-понты кривые!
                      3. dmitreach
                        dmitreach 29 September 2013 11: 04 New
                        0
                        I didn’t lead to that picture. On her page it was clear that the girl was fond of parachuting. Or draws on other people's, amateur pics. What is even more doubtful. DOSSAF and TRP, with Voroshilovsky shooter in one bottle. With Viper photo is not random. Or she constantly drags her uniform in public places ... which ... is strange ... or Sergey Nikolayevich showed the master class (which is typical for him) in a certain sports institution where our heroine is not a guest.
                        Ktozh could entertain that the screen of her page is useful? And there are a lot of thematic photos of the Komsomol athlete and just beauties!

                        And I dare to assure you that nowhere in the reconnaissance and sabotage groups are not "

                        the age of children participating in "military-patriotic clubs" who are attributed to the Airborne Forces may be less than 10 years. And what is characteristic of them is also NOT in the special forces.
                    2. novobranets
                      novobranets 28 September 2013 10: 08 New
                      +1
                      Nice, well-groomed little face, little white, the hands are not roughened. Not like real soldiers, their faces are weathered and tanned, their hands are beaten. Looks like they’re not serving in the office. You won’t put them on the cover either.
          2. alone
            alone 27 September 2013 13: 08 New
            +9
            so what’s stopping you. you can try to become a volunteer and start driving a tank or bmp. try to make a march 15 km with 30 kg on your back.

            a woman should be the guardian of the family hearth. first of all. for me everyone should go about their business.
            1. OffenroR
              OffenroR 27 September 2013 14: 10 New
              +5
              "a woman should be the guardian of the family hearth. first of all. for me everyone should go about their own business."

              ..... I’m afraid that Russia succumbed to the harmful effects of events that are happening in Europe related to the undermining of centuries-old family foundations (you know who). If this continues further, the stereotype of a “woman-keeper of a hearth” in Russia will be over
              . The struggle for all kinds of "rights" of women, etc., will lead to the fact that one day the wives will tell husbands something like "I am not your property, with whom I want to talk, with whom I want to walk, with whom I want to tr @ x @ yus )
              1. xetai9977
                xetai9977 27 September 2013 14: 34 New
                +9
                I have a persistent disgust for "cool women" in American films. Masculine, through the word mate, swing with kettlebells, wear a cap 3 sizes larger than the head ..... Who will like such a "woman"?
                1. OffenroR
                  OffenroR 27 September 2013 14: 50 New
                  +4
                  Yes figs with them ... with these American films (even if they reflect reality) Look what is happening much closer to us
                  Here is my friend in Moscow took a walk and said that with other schoolgirls it’s not long to become a pedophile ... he says they walk almost in their underpants (or rather thongs). They’re just young b **** ... and you are talking about America ... In place of the modest Russian girls appeared ..... you yourself know who .... And then they howl every second why they stick to them and ask for a phone number ... first you need to stop wagging your asses and shaking your heels on every corner.

                  Previously, the whole world admired Russian women ... and now they will see a young Russian ...
              2. Gur
                Gur 27 September 2013 15: 37 New
                -1
                I agree at such a pace after biathlon they will blow an apartment for two for a family of a and b
              3. smersh70
                smersh70 27 September 2013 15: 40 New
                +5
                Quote: OffenroR
                "I'm not your property, with whom I want to talk, with whom I want to walk, with whom I want to tr @ x @ yus)


                ... and in general, from this day I ask you to call the head of the family, not the husband, the woman said drinks wassat
              4. I am
                I am 27 September 2013 22: 16 New
                +1
                And nothing, driving, or even the presence of a tank, machine gun, and SVD, too, will only contribute to the storage of this same ocheg.
              5. novobranets
                novobranets 28 September 2013 08: 29 New
                +1
                Quote: OffenroR
                ..... I’m afraid that Russia succumbed to the harmful effects of the events that are taking place in Europe related to the undermining of centuries-old family foundations

                Actually, what we are seeing now, and if this mess is not stopped, then the blow aimed at undermining the institution of family and marriage will achieve the goal. I will add the old adage- "What is good for a Russian-German death", or vice versa, if you like. hi
            2. Egoza
              Egoza 27 September 2013 14: 59 New
              +3
              Quote: lonely
              a woman should be the guardian of the family hearth. first of all. for me everyone should go about their business.

              Agree! Only here the years of the Second World War and the post-war years taught our women to be ready to replace men in everything! Unfortunately, our time is not conducive to the quiet peaceful storage of the hearth. A husband can be wonderful - but look at the news bulletins - there someone on a car drove into a bus stop, there a drunk knocked someone down at a crossing, there an outsider walked with a knife into the heat of fights. Do you think that a woman does not want to be a woman? Not! And not even modern propaganda pushes us to this. Elementary fear - even having lost the breadwinner, you should be so strong as to raise children, give them an education, and for this to go and do ANY work. And men now often end up in skirts, and then women are forced to wear trousers. IMHO hi
              1. smersh70
                smersh70 27 September 2013 15: 43 New
                +5
                Quote: Egoza
                Only here are the years of the Second World War and the postwar years


                Well, that was in those years !!!! 1 right now there is no such exertion when 35 million men were at the front ...
                Quote: Egoza
                should be so strong as to raise children

                ..but not to drive the same T-72 ... hi
                Quote: Egoza
                And men now often find themselves “in skirts,” and then women are forced to wear trousers.

                A disease of the 21st century ........ laughing
              2. alone
                alone 27 September 2013 16: 54 New
                +3
                Yes, Elena, this is life. The loss of a breadwinner in the family forces women to go and do not do anything they can. I take off my hat in front of women who go for it for the sake of the future of their children. but still the tank is not a female thing to drive.
              3. APASUS
                APASUS 27 September 2013 18: 12 New
                +3
                Quote: Egoza
                And men now often find themselves “in skirts,” and then women are forced to wear trousers.

                Presenting the day of the paratrooper! soldier
                1. OffenroR
                  OffenroR 27 September 2013 19: 13 New
                  +3
                  I would like to see how the "Winged Infantry" of this mmmm ... "type" bathe in the fountain))) And after how they go to the bazaar for "purchases"))))
                  1. I am
                    I am 27 September 2013 22: 17 New
                    0
                    no, these are the "male" skirts coming. And these will be carried !!!!!!
                2. Felix200970
                  Felix200970 27 September 2013 22: 04 New
                  +1
                  Quote: APASUS
                  Quote: Egoza
                  And men now often find themselves “in skirts,” and then women are forced to wear trousers.

                  Presenting the day of the paratrooper! soldier

                  And they are still sober without mounting and in good mood laughing
            3. Walking
              Walking 27 September 2013 17: 21 New
              +2
              Quote: lonely
              so what’s stopping you. you can try to become a volunteer and start driving a tank or bmp. try to make a march 15 km with 30 kg on your back.

              a woman should be the guardian of the family hearth. first of all. for me everyone should go about their business.



              Yes, everyone should do their own thing, but tell those guys who mow from the army, are afraid of it. That's where the problem is.
              1. novobranets
                novobranets 28 September 2013 08: 39 New
                0
                Quote: Hiking
                but say it to those guys who mow down from the army, are afraid of it

                A man who, at the word army, runs headlong while casting and putting off his pants wassat , a guy, let alone a man, has no right to be called, they deserve only contempt negative . Guys, those who are 18 years old, defended their home, relatives and loved ones. In defense of the homeland. soldier Here they are men, and worthy of respect. drinks
          3. smiths xnumx
            smiths xnumx 27 September 2013 13: 32 New
            +6
            Natalya will tell you a story from my own experience, the beginning of spring 2002, the corpse of a certain citizen was discovered, and the deceased was searched for half a year already, they managed to initiate a criminal case upon his loss. We left SOG, the state of the deceased is not very good, the animals worked on the face, well, plus, I’ve been lying since last November. They examined with an expert, the corpse is not criminal, the young man walked, in a state of extreme intoxication from a disco from a neighboring village, he went along the road to an abandoned warehouse, fell and died of hypothermia. There are no visible teles, a passport in my pocket, a ticket from a disco, money (about 10 rubles), cigarettes. But the protocol for the inspection of the scene must be drawn up, and its investigator, a young girl of about 23 years old, composed it. And when drawing up the protocol of the deceased, you need to inspect. so, she writes the protocol, we (the corpse) with the expert toss and turn, undress. She sees all this and squeaks: "I can’t see it, I’m a girl." The answer was: "You are not a girl, you are a police officer, look and write ...".
            1. zart_arn
              zart_arn 27 September 2013 15: 13 New
              +3
              "I can't see it, I'm a girl." The answer was: "You are not a girl, you are a police officer, look and write ...".

              Unfortunately, this case is not the rule, but, alas, is the exception. Have you been to hospitals? Who works there - have there been a lot of orderlies and nurses? And there all sorts of sick people and little things happen. The same war, pain, blood of suffering, death, excrement (and this, alas). Well, there are many men there? So women adapt to any conditions and this is a fact. Strength and endurance are the same moot point, there are women in Russian villages. The only thing the woman is inferior to is in logical thinking, analytics. Here, alas, I did not meet strong women. True, maybe just no luck?
              1. smiths xnumx
                smiths xnumx 27 September 2013 15: 53 New
                +3
                It happened, the fact is that if you bring a corpse with the suspicion that it is criminal, you must be present at the autopsy to verify this. Impressions are not pleasant. Personally, I left a pack of cigarettes. And especially since those who worked with forensic experts know what kind of "maniacs" they are ... Well, something like that.
                1. Aleks tv
                  Aleks tv 27 September 2013 16: 35 New
                  +2
                  Quote: smiths xnumx
                  Moreover, whoever worked with forensic experts knows what these "maniacs" are ...

                  Yes, Roman, I agree - they are "maniacs." And they are very in love with their work.
                  laughing
                  Unfortunately, I had to contact them.

                  But the paradox is that among them HALF of women are the pros of the highest category.
                  They normally support such work, it’s true.

                  But the autopsy is performed by orderlies; I have not seen women among them.
                  request
                  1. smiths xnumx
                    smiths xnumx 27 September 2013 16: 47 New
                    +2
                    Only, somehow I didn’t come across women, well, we had a forensic expert, yes! In appearance a noble little man, a kind of old Russian intellectual, in glasses, with a beard, a wand. Once, it was urgent to conclude an additional SME-term was running out, and the crook had to bring a final charge. Phoned him. Agreed, come on Saturday, with me a bottle of cognac. He arrived, he told me the conclusion, I told him horse meat. They sat down at the table, he took out 2 faceted glasses, poured to the brim. He drank, I only half. He laughs, they say you don’t know how to drink, and pours himself another full glass. In general, we drank cognac, then he dug 2 full glasses of medical alcohol. Well, we drove him home, went out. I tell the driver, the sergeant, believe that this grandfather now drank almost a bottle of cognac, and then 2 glasses of alcohol. He is not. So I say that I would not have believed it before. And the next time we arrived, so he was drunk on a gurney in an embrace with a corpse asleep ... That's something like that.
                    1. Sergh
                      Sergh 27 September 2013 19: 33 New
                      +2
                      = Aleks tv] But the paradox is that among them HALF of women are the pros of the highest category [/ quote]
                      Well, mine has been working in surgical surgery for more than 25 years. She told such things, you can add jokes. So there are a lot of men who are afraid of a drop of blood fainting, and there are women pathologists who cut so that the bones fly in different directions.
                      The pathologist's birthday

                      [img] http://anekdotov.net/pic/photo5/12144146z.jpg [/ center]

                      "Thanks, friends! I'm glad I'm not a gynecologist."
                    2. novobranets
                      novobranets 28 September 2013 09: 51 New
                      0
                      Quote: smiths xnumx
                      I drank a bottle of brandy, and then 2 cups of alcohol.

                      This is really impressive. hi
                      Quote: smiths xnumx
                      somehow did not come across women
                      By the nature of his work, he was in all the morgues of our city, but he didn’t see women either. But the orderly with a buter and beer, in the cold many times. belay
              2. I am
                I am 27 September 2013 22: 19 New
                +1
                If something is not visible, this does not mean that it is not.
                Well, then an example with jerboa.
                1. novobranets
                  novobranets 28 September 2013 09: 55 New
                  0
                  Quote: I am
                  Well, then an example with jerboa.

                  There, I remember, we still need a rag, with rocket fuel. laughing
              3. novobranets
                novobranets 28 September 2013 09: 02 New
                +1
                Quote: zart_arn
                Unfortunately, this case is not the rule, but, alas, is the exception. Have you been to hospitals? Who works there - have there been a lot of orderlies and nurses?

                Do you know how in the old days they called nurses and nurses? Sister of Mercy. No one except a woman can be so imbued with other people's suffering and alleviate it, a woman’s heart is much more responsive, admittedly, than that of men. Women and the wounded were taken care of from time immemorial, and they lifted those who should not have survived at all. And for this they bow to them. hi love
            2. I am
              I am 27 September 2013 22: 18 New
              0
              So what ???? I could also squeak, one does not exclude the other!
          4. OffenroR
            OffenroR 27 September 2013 13: 58 New
            +1
            You’re awesome))) indiscriminately dump minus...
          5. JonnyT
            JonnyT 27 September 2013 14: 35 New
            +2
            smacks of feminism)
            1. alone
              alone 27 September 2013 16: 56 New
              +3
              Quote: JonnyT
              smacks of feminism)


              Do you think it smells? This is feminism)))
              1. novobranets
                novobranets 27 September 2013 17: 41 New
                0
                Quote: lonely
                Do you think it smells? This is feminism

                Terry.
          6. zart_arn
            zart_arn 27 September 2013 14: 50 New
            +3
            Guys (if you are called that), take an example from a woman, at least in the way she leads the debate. Honestly and specifically she announced to whom she had set a minus, and for this you are also quietly minusizing her. I, honestly, am ashamed of us all, men. I apologize to you for them. You - pluses (I have no opportunity to present flowers). love
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 27 September 2013 15: 40 New
              +2
              Quote: zart_arn
              I, honestly, am ashamed of us all, men.

              For me it’s not necessary, I didn’t minus one. smile
              1. I am
                I am 27 September 2013 22: 21 New
                +1
                have you started backing up?
            2. smersh70
              smersh70 27 September 2013 15: 45 New
              +5
              Quote: zart_arn
              and for that you also quietly minus it


              why secretly smile so I put her a minus hi
            3. I am
              I am 27 September 2013 22: 21 New
              0
              yeah, well, at least someone wisdom woke up, it pleases)))))))
            4. novobranets
              novobranets 28 September 2013 09: 12 New
              0
              Quote: zart_arn
              , take an example from a woman, at least in the way she debates. Honestly and specifically announced to whom the minus set

              Ahhhhh! You disagree with me more! Here is a minus for you, a minus for you, here is a cons for you all, nasty. wassat Cool, I will certainly take an example. laughing
          7. APASUS
            APASUS 27 September 2013 15: 02 New
            +2
            Quote: Natalia
            Quote: APASUS APASUS and even you

            Do not explain, otherwise I do not catch up.
            I’m just stating a fact and no more. Or are you juggling such shells every day? CHARACTERISTICS

            Shot mass .20,3kg
            Projectile weight with an additional charge of 10,7 kg
            1. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 27 September 2013 19: 54 New
              +1
              Quote: APASUS
              Do not explain, otherwise I do not catch up.

              In the video, visually from 2.04 and 3.13, a pretty German woman shows you.
              1. novobranets
                novobranets 28 September 2013 09: 20 New
                0
                Since when have commercials become credible?
              2. APASUS
                APASUS 28 September 2013 10: 39 New
                +1
                Quote: saturn.mmm
                In the video, visually from 2.04 and 3.13, a pretty German woman shows you.

                Are you provoking me?
                Did you yourself see how she sways with this shell?
                And if this is a stationary bombardment, where is the feed from the ground?
                She’ll be buried next to this tank in 10 minutes. That's why the Americans always take a Negro to Abrams - pitching!
                The same "nigra" -charging at work inside the subject
            2. alone
              alone 27 September 2013 20: 37 New
              +4
              Quote: APASUS
              Do not explain, otherwise I do not catch up.
              I’m just stating a fact and no more. Or are you juggling such shells every day? CHARACTERISTICS

              Shot mass .20,3kg
              Projectile weight with an additional charge of 10,7 kg


              hi Do you think she knows how much which shell weighs? she just wrote it because of female solidarity. let her try to lift a 152,4mm caliber projectile
              weighing more than 40 kg. here then I'll see what she writes after that. the army is not running around the boutiques))))
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              3. I am
                I am 27 September 2013 22: 23 New
                +1
                In Saratov at the plant of OJSC SPZ (former), girls workers, during the shift, load rings weighing 30 kg into the receiving compartment of the machine, a piece of 150-200 per shift. So what ???? No one says it's good, but not impossible.
                1. novobranets
                  novobranets 28 September 2013 09: 28 New
                  +1
                  They load them manually, as quickly as possible and under fire, and whose lives depend on the fact that she sits down to smoke? This is of course bestiality, putting women on such a job. Only this scene is from another play. Do not confuse. love
                2. APASUS
                  APASUS 28 September 2013 14: 11 New
                  +1
                  Quote: I am
                  In Saratov at the plant of OJSC SPZ (former), girls workers, during the shift, load rings weighing 30 kg into the receiving compartment of the machine, a piece of 150-200 per shift. So what ???

                  Your opus looks strange.
                  GIRL throws 200 rings a day for 30 kg?
                  Yes, in half a year it will be a terminator in a skirt, I’m so "" "girls!" "" Clutching railway crutches from one hit, too, I saw
                  1. novobranets
                    novobranets 28 September 2013 14: 30 New
                    0
                    Quote: APASUS
                    GIRL throws 200 rings a day for 30 kg?
                    belay
                    Yes, all this nonsense, six tons per shift? what In half a year, it will not be a terminator, but a disabled person, provided that he survives. The girl has beguiled someone. fellow
          8. smersh70
            smersh70 27 September 2013 15: 36 New
            +5
            Quote: Natalia
            MINUS



            Hurray !!!!! I am not on this list! For now I will not lose my 50% of the vote laughing drinks bully
          9. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 27 September 2013 19: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: Natalia
            MINUS

            I will support you visually. Lydia Litvyak, many men were envious of this fighter. The Americans shot a video starring Uma Thurman. You can still recall the "Night Witches"
          10. I am
            I am 27 September 2013 22: 09 New
            +1
            And from me too !!!!!! am
        3. roma2
          roma2 27 September 2013 12: 49 New
          +5
          Dear Natalia, do not tell me where the only female pilot of the Ukrainian army went?
        4. roma2
          roma2 27 September 2013 12: 49 New
          +2
          Dear Natalia, do not tell me where the only female pilot of the Ukrainian army went?
        5. Max otto
          Max otto 27 September 2013 13: 27 New
          12
          Handles are handles, but ...
          A caterpillar tore at my facility on a bulldozer, this trough was really bothering me in the pit, night, rain, wind, deadlines, pressure, 30 cubes of concrete in the morning, and then this piece of iron. Almost no people, the crane left, I climbed to help myself. We did everything, 4th man in his prime. I slept at home for almost a day.
          I’ll say one thing - the tank has a track wider than twice. What would these girls do, I won’t know how it was, but it was summer, and if it were winter?
          1. Airman
            Airman 27 September 2013 15: 51 New
            +6
            Quote: Max Otto
            Handles are handles, but ...
            A caterpillar tore at my facility on a bulldozer, this trough was really bothering me in the pit, night, rain, wind, deadlines, pressure, 30 cubes of concrete in the morning, and then this piece of iron. Almost no people, the crane left, I climbed to help myself. We did everything, 4th man in his prime. I slept at home for almost a day.
            I’ll say one thing - the tank has a track wider than twice. What would these girls do, I won’t know how it was, but it was summer, and if it were winter?

            And they don’t have to bother with the trucks, they are only riding a tank, because Shoigu said that next year there will be a female “crew” in the tank biathlon. It will be a show inside the show.
          2. I am
            I am 27 September 2013 22: 24 New
            +1
            And who is easy now?
        6. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 27 September 2013 13: 56 New
          21
          Quote: Natalia
          In addition, women are more diligent and attentive,

          Good day, Natalya.
          I always read you with interest. I respect the daughter of a military man, himself from the dynasty, was born and raised in the Garrisons.
          I understand that I run the risk of running into a minus, but let me comment and ask your opinion again?

          I do not argue that women can master driving and shooting, this is not a question. And if you "train" the crew, then it can "make" many male crews.

          The question is different:
          Who will service this car and how?
          The tank quite a bit of time "fucks up and fucks up" ... More often than not, it’s constantly, long, painstaking uh-uh ... "mumble".
          Pull out 4 battery? To clean the air filter? Replace the "harp"?
          No further listing?
          There are works that have not spoiled the female body. I do not laugh (in no case), but I'm talking about ordinary physiology.
          Further (if by contract):
          And if the Decree? (God forbid - this is a wonderful event).
          And extreme:
          If a business trip to ... uh ... another "schwilly-tie-eater"?
          I would, in the place of the commander of the unit, could not sign a business trip ...
          I couldn’t, because I still have to serve in this unit and in this country, and the rumors in the Army between the officers are worse than many orders.

          It turns out this is a "showy crew" to please new trends? Why does the commander need him?
          I’m not rude and I don’t jerk. I ask seriously.
          With respect:
          Alex.
          10 years in the T-72.
          1. Radioman
            Radioman 27 September 2013 14: 55 New
            +5
            Aleks tv

            Finally a normal comment ...
          2. smersh70
            smersh70 27 September 2013 15: 33 New
            +4
            Quote: Aleks tv
            And if the Decree

            .... then send her husband ... laughing
          3. Walking
            Walking 27 September 2013 17: 31 New
            +1
            Quote: Aleks tv
            Quote: Natalia
            In addition, women are more diligent and attentive,

            Good day, Natalya.
            I always read you with interest. I respect the daughter of a military man, himself from the dynasty, was born and raised in the Garrisons.
            I understand that I run the risk of running into a minus, but let me comment and ask your opinion again?

            I do not argue that women can master driving and shooting, this is not a question. And if you "train" the crew, then it can "make" many male crews.

            The question is different:
            Who will service this car and how?
            The tank quite a bit of time "fucks up and fucks up" ... More often than not, it’s constantly, long, painstaking uh-uh ... "mumble".
            Pull out 4 battery? To clean the air filter? Replace the "harp"?
            No further listing?
            There are works that have not spoiled the female body. I do not laugh (in no case), but I'm talking about ordinary physiology.
            Further (if by contract):
            And if the Decree? (God forbid - this is a wonderful event).
            And extreme:
            If a business trip to ... uh ... another "schwilly-tie-eater"?
            I would, in the place of the commander of the unit, could not sign a business trip ...
            I couldn’t, because I still have to serve in this unit and in this country, and the rumors in the Army between the officers are worse than many orders.

            It turns out this is a "showy crew" to please new trends? Why does the commander need him?
            I’m not rude and I don’t jerk. I ask seriously.
            With respect:
            Alex.
            10 years in the T-72.


            Maybe this ostentatious crew is needed as an incentive for guys.
          4. Alekseev
            Alekseev 27 September 2013 21: 51 New
            +2
            Quote: Aleks tv
            It turns out this is a "showy crew" to please new trends?

            Absolutely accurate definition! good
            By the way, “about the birds”: according to the requirements of labor protection, women cannot lift more than 7 kg, it is harmful to the body.
        7. OffenroR
          OffenroR 27 September 2013 15: 12 New
          +5
          Yeah ... tell this to a friend of my father who served in Afghanistan. Half of his regiment returned home in coffins, some in a "scattered" form on that land and remained ... What will a woman do there? To clean the Taliban with a “Kalash” file for nails?
        8. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 27 September 2013 16: 17 New
          +3
          Quote: Natalia
          Israel is (there are generally female special forces)

          Natasha, well, they are also freed from hard work, even in Israel. And what is this special forces?
          What kind of fighters are on the technology who use it while it works. But how she got up, and hands to the sides. After all, it is similar in civilian life, on the roads. A battle, not a highway.
          Look, would you like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QeH7A7YT64

          You can put a minus to me. I would not want to see my wife behind the levers of the tank, where the peasant sometimes lacks strength.
          1. roma2
            roma2 27 September 2013 18: 13 New
            +4
            Quote: Natalia
            Israel is (there are generally female special forces)


            Only there they are first MILITARY, and only then women.
            But on the contrary, any attempt to force us to fulfill my DUTIES ends with the phrase I AM A WOMAN.
        9. VAF
          VAF 27 September 2013 16: 37 New
          +5
          Quote: Natalia
          but only women should be in aviation.


          If you said ... in aviation. then yes .. I would agree with you .... well, there are flight attendants or administrators (at various racks), but like that ... pilots ... like now wassat

          And so I want to ask .. "future" owners of the rights to control small aircraft ... what are you so carefully considering. especially scale ruler measure the distance over the city center ??? lol

          1. novobranets
            novobranets 27 September 2013 17: 52 New
            +4
            Quote: vaf
            why are you there so carefully considering. especially scale ruler measure the distance over the city center ???

            The Lord is with you, they are considering the line. laughing
        10. novobranets
          novobranets 27 September 2013 16: 40 New
          +4
          Quote: Natalia
          In the US, there are women in the Air Force,

          Kara Khaltgrin gained fame during her lifetime, and her death just three months after becoming a fighter pilot only fueled disputes about the admission of women to pilot combat aircraft. On February 28, 1995, the official results of the disaster investigation were published - the main reason was called engine failure. Vice Admiral Robert Span, commander of Pacific Navy aviation, said that eight out of nine male pilots could not cope with a similar situation when reconstructing a crash on a flight simulator. However, there was another version that blamed Haltgreen for the disaster. In March 1995, an unknown source in the Navy provided leading American media with copies of an internal investigation into the incident, which was not intended for open publication. It followed from this report that the surge in the engine was caused by the erroneous actions of Lieutenant Haltgreen. According to a number of F-14 pilots, the disaster could have been avoided if Khaltgrin timely complied with the emergency instructions [2].
        11. OffenroR
          OffenroR 27 September 2013 19: 54 New
          +2
          "in Israel there is (there is generally female special forces)"
          So what? In Israel, a woman is obliged to serve .... Israel preferred the quantity to quality ... They told me that you were going along the street, you saw a girl - a shabby, small one, and even in full uniform .... she ate already standing. Why is she so tormented? Correctly .... she is a soldier first and then a girl for leadership. And how, interestingly, this “miracle” will be at war, which even when standing still does not endure such loads ...

          There was a battle near Stalingrad with the participation of a female anti-aircraft regiment (in a movie about this episode they talk about). The girls deployed anti-aircraft guns against the advancing German armored vehicles. Result: They were able to knock down several German tanks and detain them ... but they all died. tanks of their lives?


          Better let them sit at home and cook something tasty ...

          PS these feminists have become insolent ... look for what they want. God created a woman as an assistant and a companion to a man. And let them bark as much as they want, in a morally healthy society this is how it was and will be.
          1. OffenroR
            OffenroR 27 September 2013 20: 10 New
            +2
            "Children, kitchen, church" and the point.
          2. Rumata
            Rumata 28 September 2013 07: 56 New
            0
            Quote: OffenroR
            Israel preferred quantity to quality ...

            You are burning !!
            1. OffenroR
              OffenroR 28 September 2013 15: 37 New
              -1
              Yeah ???))) And then see Israel women in the army? Satisfy the needs of the opposite sex? Or just in Israel there are simply not enough men ....
        12. I am
          I am 27 September 2013 22: 09 New
          0
          Wow, everything is written correctly !!!!!
        13. novobranets
          novobranets 28 September 2013 09: 42 New
          0
          Forget this nonsense, a nail file is included in the set of computer keyboard, coffee maker and secretary table. And the tank is accompanied by a sledgehammer, a five-kilogram solid-fuel supercharger, a non-frail wrench and a XNUMX meter length power tube. In itself, the frequent mention of the nail file already says a lot.
      2. I am
        I am 27 September 2013 22: 05 New
        +1
        Repairmen during the Second World War also had girls in this regiment !!!! Coped.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 27 September 2013 22: 11 New
          +4
          Is there a war now?
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 28 September 2013 00: 15 New
            +1
            We have a show now
        2. novobranets
          novobranets 28 September 2013 09: 46 New
          +1
          The key phrase is "during the Second World War."
    4. VAF
      VAF 27 September 2013 13: 19 New
      14
      Quote: Natalia
      Worthy


      Rave! Or .. feast during the plague ... as you please! soldier

      I wanted to lay out the film, as from burning tank the burning tankers pushed in. and one without legs ... la I will spare your eyes.

      Bismarck was right 1000 times - Kinder, Ktiche, Kirche. and no more soldier

      And do not confuse ..... War and .... pleasure ... a little different concepts soldier
      1. Natalia
        Natalia 27 September 2013 13: 51 New
        +5
        ......yah you
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 27 September 2013 13: 58 New
          +6
          Quote: Natalia
          ...yah you

          Do not be offended by us, dear Natalia (2).
          It’s just that the respected members of the forum present here want to say that there are things and deeds that only men can handle and of course there is such a sphere of interests and deeds where you, our dear women, can do the best!
          But really a tank and a woman somehow not so ???
          Most likely this experiment will fail.
          1. OffenroR
            OffenroR 27 September 2013 14: 36 New
            +1
            Women can even cope with what men cannot do .... BUT .... not the fact that after that they will remain that "femininity" ... one of the qualities ... for which we love you so much. all the “horror films” of the war can turn into a “woman” who will thump and look like a seasoned Airborne Trooper who has seen everything in the world ... Let's agree that most of the girls who somehow participated in the Great Patriotic War became unrecognizable ... not outwardly. ..a internally.
          2. I am
            I am 27 September 2013 22: 26 New
            0
            Maybe he will tolerate. But the idea itself is not hopeless!
        2. VAF
          VAF 27 September 2013 14: 31 New
          +8
          Quote: Natalia
          .....yah you


          It's possible love .

          In my regiment, the same girls were in combat training 9 it was necessary for someone to print the planned and daily routines), in the combat department, in the darkroom, and, of course, in PD and MSS (paratroopers).
          on the CP (we have it with ACSBU) in almost all bully departments, well, and in the commandant's office at the checkpoint.
          Also Meteo, and secretaries from squadrons went to the start of the outfit (timekeepers).
          But it's all warmer in bright light or the sun, there is where to drink. To eat, etc.
          Plus, in the garrisons, as a rule, the female half has nowhere to work, so they took any posts.
          But here came the “serious" times and ... not one of them was fighting with them ... NOT ONE soldier
          There were times (especially when the contractions started) the girls were transferred to the “parking lot” in the JUICE groups (roll a trolley with a Tester, a dad’s connector in mom’s slot, press the button and 5 minutes .. all business and back to the group).
          But the summer is over. winter came unexpectedly and ... it was all over (not untlouched. no furry romper with jackets) and it was a pity for us to look at it all .. event!
          so do not be offended. but just take note!
          By the way .. a few months ago there was the same "PRUrya-article" regarding the women's aerobatic team Hummingbird wassat Remember?
          That's all (well, not all, but ... lol ) screech, squeak and ... full pants ... raptures and Expo and Crocus City and "tea. coffee. dance" ...... well, where and .. how it ended .. you know wink
          This is it!
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 27 September 2013 15: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: vaf
            Well, where and .. how it ended .. you know



            and where, if not a secret ... wassat
            Quote: vaf
            female aerobatic team Hummingbird

            By the way .. what country they represented .... I'll go see the pictures .. smile at least they were beautiful or like Norwegians ... winked ....
            1. VAF
              VAF 27 September 2013 16: 19 New
              +5
              Quote: smersh70
              and where, if not a secret ...


              That's right ... we thought ... PR move, well, "daddy" denyushki .... raped, the normal scheme for avoiding "anything" is "sponsorship" wassat

              Quote: smersh70
              by the way .. what country did they represent ...


              How what .. Our. After all, the Holding "Russian Helicopters", though in Amerov’s machines, and in Amerov’s flight ... but .... who will understand this wassat
              And by the way .. in the background ... one of .. "daddies" wassat



              Quote: smersh70
              beautiful though or how


              Here, as they say ... the taste and color. but the left two are extreme, these are professional instructors, and all the rest ... "cadets-listeners" wink

              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 27 September 2013 19: 02 New
                +3
                I welcome Seryozha to the “pilotess” in the center of the shoes for pedaling Robinson. While it is clear that she is concerned about the state of her own hairstyle!
          2. I am
            I am 27 September 2013 22: 27 New
            +1
            ................. definitely well you !!!!
        3. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 27 September 2013 14: 38 New
          +7
          Quote: Natalia
          ......yah you

          good My wife also says that when there are no more arguments. wink love
          1. VAF
            VAF 27 September 2013 15: 16 New
            +8
            Quote: Vladimirets
            My wife also says that when there are no more arguments.


            good+! drinks Or ... that you yell at me .... or that you ... me down request recourse
            And yet ..... you again command everything, but there is an unkilled one in response, she went to the army herself, voluntarily? No, you did, yes, I did. but asked herself? ..Itself! Did you take the oath? Gave! Studied the charter? I studied!
            What is written in the Charter in paragraph No. 1? That's right -The commander is the law and he is always right!
            And in the second paragraph of the Charter it is written, if the commander is wrong, read paragraph FIRST! soldier

            Be quiet, quietly, around, to the kitchen step march .... and all the debate is over!
            There is peace and order in the house! drinks
        4. APASUS
          APASUS 27 September 2013 15: 12 New
          +3
          Quote: Natalia
          ......yah you

          So purely feminine .........
        5. smersh70
          smersh70 27 September 2013 15: 46 New
          +4
          Quote: Natalia
          ......yah you


          but for this, a fat plus laughing drinks good
    5. VAF
      VAF 27 September 2013 17: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: Natalia
      just remember Svetlana Kapanin,


      Natalya. A very incorrect comparison, very much!

      Svetlana Kapanina is a professional who is for that. to become what she is now - ABSOLUTE and BEST in the WORLD !:

      1. At 18, enrolled in the flying club (ASK DOSAAF) of the Soviet Union. !!!
      2. She graduated from the Kaluga Flight School.!

      In those days, even in the States it was possible to enter a flight school without exams, only by providing a certificate of completion of the flying club and stating that she studied with a Soviet instructor (!!!).
      Our school was the BEST in the WORLD !!!

      And now, the three friends got together and decided ... we’ll ride on the .. tank .. why not on the submarine ????
      Or is everything still ahead ???? wassat
      Maybe then ... The mace will finally fly, huh? wink

      Joking jokes. but from this ... PR already .. stop

      Here's a hummingbird movie crew ..... wassat especially the moment of their arrival .. or rather .. "delivery" lol (time 0:06) wassat one word .. "lovers" crying
      Where next is ?????? request

    6. I am
      I am 27 September 2013 22: 04 New
      0
      During the Second World War, a whole women's bomber regiment was named after Maria Raskova. He began formation in the city of Saratov. We got to Berlin, 22 throats of the Soviet Union, if not mistaken !!!
      1. I am
        I am 28 September 2013 20: 59 New
        +1
        What is it minus? History not taught ??? And this is a historical fact !!!! There is no arguing against history. And they fought and flew and won !!!!!!!
  2. silver_roman
    silver_roman 27 September 2013 15: 59 New
    +1
    Something tells me that if three young ladies decide to master a combat vehicle, they will do it better than many men)

    I don’t even really doubt it. at one time, our women terrified the aces of the Luftwaffe!

    Imagine if you put a blonde by the levers of the T-72, who decided to make up eyelashes during the tank biathlon))). I'm afraid for the audience who will come to look at such an unforgettable sight)))
  • Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 27 September 2013 11: 16 New
    +8
    This is not a female matter. IMHO Here, and a man not everyone will pull. hi
  • slacker
    slacker 27 September 2013 11: 23 New
    +8
    Dope and PR in one bottle. It would be better if they gave this fuel to improve the officers' driving skills in this battalion, than it is so stupid to spend diesel fuel and a resource of cars for random people and a one-time show.
  • j iz sibiri
    j iz sibiri 27 September 2013 11: 25 New
    +5
    if women are already taught, then wait for something special and vryatli good
  • parazit
    parazit 27 September 2013 11: 25 New
    +3
    Why train girls to drive a tank?
    1. I am
      I am 27 September 2013 22: 27 New
      0
      To make it easier to ride a Hummer around the city, is this answer propret?
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 27 September 2013 22: 35 New
        +3
        Men, stay men, no "minuses"
        1. studentmati
          studentmati 27 September 2013 22: 58 New
          +2
          Quote: Alex 241
          Men, stay men, no "minuses"


          Hi Sasha! Does your campaign appeal to the wrong address have sounded? sad
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 27 September 2013 23: 03 New
            +3
            Sanya hi, how did a girl enter male territory? I’m not against the girls in the army whom I gave a quarter of my life, I am against populism and cheap pop music. And the girls, when I was still, served in AO groups, and they cared as much as they could, everyone but then it was a matter of honor, men did all the hard work. And in the cold and in bad weather they always found an excuse to remove them from the parking lot. But there were undoubtedly other times!
            1. studentmati
              studentmati 27 September 2013 23: 11 New
              +4
              Quote: Alex 241
              But those were undoubtedly other times!


              The most correct times were! There was respect in the atmosphere: the respect of a man for a woman, a younger for an older, a soldier for a commander, ...
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 27 September 2013 23: 15 New
                +1
                Sanya even has nothing to add. According to Yaaksu, I posted the material on the branch.
  • Diesel
    Diesel 27 September 2013 11: 26 New
    +5
    IMHO, debelizm
  • Arberes
    Arberes 27 September 2013 11: 28 New
    10
    Beautiful crew! love What more could they wish for, wonderful training and coherence! I wonder how it all ends ??? Well, from me a gift.
    Cat's tenderness!

    Your lips melt consciousness
    Butterfly wave eyelash wings
    The smoothness of your lines is the universe
    The beauty of your clear boundaries!

    Your silhouette outlined by a candle
    I have been painting on the wall for a long time
    Your face is like a sign of infinity
    Your smell is like wine to me!

    This grace of a flexible body
    Compared to her, the panther is nothing!
    I breathe like a victim is not brave
    The heart vomits with beauty, a deity!

    Sweet torture will end soon
    Candle wink at me
    Like a playful grin-smile
    Oh, how the claw grip is hot !!!

    The predatory gaze of this devil cat
    Impatiently cuts my fear
    I'm freezing in claws
    With a kiss on her lips!

    Lovely women, we love YOU !!! love love love
  • TS3sta3
    TS3sta3 27 September 2013 11: 29 New
    0
    Well what can you say about draft dodgers ...
  • roma2
    roma2 27 September 2013 11: 49 New
    +3
    Three friends Natalya, Olga and Elena - the crew of the T-72 tank. For two weeks now they have been studying the device of this military machine every day, learning to hit various targets on simulators, and using a headset


    The training program is impressive. But will they even fit into the hatch of the tank?

    From the sight of our military women, heartburn begins, and after communication (by profession), panic.

    Well, our women are not capable of such

    1. demeen1
      demeen1 27 September 2013 13: 12 New
      +1
      They fly there, their advantages do not touch the edges of the hatch
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 28 September 2013 14: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: demeen1
        They fly there, their advantages do not touch the edges of the hatch

        Well I do not know. If this is not photoshop, then one will fit, the second will squeeze through, but the third, I'm afraid, will have to be hammered into the hatch. fellow
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 27 September 2013 16: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: roma2
      Well, our women are not capable of such

      If about the picture, then it’s more like a production shot.
      And our women are capable of much, but it is better to live without these abilities.
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 27 September 2013 17: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: Hedgehog
        And our women are capable of much

        From la fam, good not shersh? laughing
        1. roma2
          roma2 27 September 2013 18: 18 New
          +4
          Have you ever watched such a scene in OUR army ?? And they have this norm.

          1. novobranets
            novobranets 27 September 2013 18: 48 New
            +3
            Not watched, your truth, and God forbid, never see. crying
          2. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 27 September 2013 19: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: roma2
            ? And they have this norm.

            So, after all, they have Jewish motherhood. Probably the only people on the planet. Well, let them plow their health. And we need to protect our women. They give birth to us and bring up our children, they teach us the first words.
            1. novobranets
              novobranets 28 September 2013 08: 05 New
              0
              Quote: Hedgehog
              They give birth to us and bring up our children, they teach us the first words.

              I would not want the first words to be something like “Silence, at once, yours ...” negative
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 27 September 2013 19: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: novobranets
          From la fam, good not shersh?

          From those in the picture naturally not shersh! laughing
        3. I am
          I am 27 September 2013 22: 28 New
          +1
          nu-nu, the main thing is to start looking for ......
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 27 September 2013 12: 00 New
    +2
    In vain do you mock men ... Our women back in WWII gave many men a head start! Although I am against this all ..! Especially with regard to tank biathlon .. (men will succumb to = any)))) We have such nature!
    1. Uruska
      Uruska 27 September 2013 13: 28 New
      +2
      The main thing is that they would learn how to correctly use the headset!
  • roma2
    roma2 27 September 2013 12: 09 New
    +5
    So it was in the war, but look at the current young ladies in uniform. Horror, if they cope in signalmen and medical units, then in all other posts they are simply horror, a minimum of knowledge, zero desire.
  • svoboda1970
    svoboda1970 27 September 2013 12: 10 New
    +2
    Creative ... love
  • alebor
    alebor 27 September 2013 12: 41 New
    10
    "Russian women will be taught to drive tanks." - It would be better if they were taught to give birth to children, it would be more useful for an endangered country that does not seem to be at war with anyone, and every year loses several hundred thousand people as during the great war. And here they are engaged in some kind of useless ... I can not find a decent word. They are trying to make some ridiculous parodies of men out of women. For what?
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 27 September 2013 12: 52 New
      +7
      Quote: alebor
      It would be better if they were taught to give birth to children, it would be more beneficial for an endangered country,

      Totally agree with you! But, so that our women would give birth to them, men should love, that is, you and I alebor. Conception is a mutual process! How is it not fair to blame everything on them?
  • apro
    apro 27 September 2013 12: 45 New
    +7
    It’s better to drive baby carriages, maybe future tankers will have the first march. And these are the statements that during the war ... it was from our misfortune. There is no place for a woman in a combat vehicle.
  • major071
    major071 27 September 2013 12: 51 New
    10
    Three friends Natalya, Olga and Elena - the crew of the T-72 tank. For two weeks now, they have been studying the device of this military machine every day, learning to hit various targets on simulators, and using a headset.
    That's right, the T-72 is a great learning machine. Learn from it, it will be possible to transfer to more modern tanks. And at the end of the biathlon, we’ll see who was right, whether this is a woman’s business or not. Personally, I have a positive attitude, let them show all sorts of majors and 3,14dorases that they should protect their homeland, and not substitute rear-wheel drive to the west. IMHO. soldier
  • maxbrov74
    maxbrov74 27 September 2013 12: 52 New
    +3
    For me it is; if they want to serve, let them serve if they manage and don’t get caught at the crucial moment. There must be freedom of choice of a profession in accordance with the abilities of course. However, this case is very similar to a PR campaign. Again, my opinion.
  • Alikovo
    Alikovo 27 September 2013 13: 06 New
    +3
    what tank nafig, my cousin learned to drive a car, so the next day I almost hit.
    Now some girls do not know how to cook soup and borscht, bake cakes.
  • mirag2
    mirag2 27 September 2013 13: 21 New
    +5
    On this occasion, I already expressed my opinion: there is no place for women in the army. And military doctors should also be men!
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 27 September 2013 16: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: mirag2
      And military doctors must also be men!

      Definitely. hi
  • HAM
    HAM 27 September 2013 13: 39 New
    +2
    The blonde at the wheel -...... and then what about the levers ?!
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 27 September 2013 14: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: OffenroR
    Poor women .... as soon as their life does not torment))) True ... in this case they are "comrade volunteers"))

    If someone comes in and the Internet of the game C / S 1.6 then he sees that the girls are playing Shooters no worse than us peasants. And here I also think to learn - where to go!
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 27 September 2013 16: 19 New
      0
      Quote: Nitarius
      Poor women ... as soon as their life does not torment

      Poor women .... their life does not teach anything.
    2. OffenroR
      OffenroR 28 September 2013 01: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Nitarius
      Quote: OffenroR
      Poor women .... as soon as their life does not torment))) True ... in this case they are "comrade volunteers"))

      If someone comes in and the Internet of the game C / S 1.6 then he sees that the girls are playing Shooters no worse than us peasants. And here I also think to learn - where to go!

      Yeah .... girls are not bad "sausage" in games of this kind .... but the game is a game ...
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 28 September 2013 07: 52 New
        +1
        That's the trouble, many confuse reality and "virtuality." And when they realize that in reality there is no ESC button, the cries begin- "It’s your fault, you incorrectly informed, you deceived, everything is not so cold and it stinks, get me out of here." When the understanding of reality comes, it will be easier, it may decrease, calls to attack the United States, etc. hi
  • moreman78
    moreman78 27 September 2013 14: 33 New
    +3
    Insanity CREATES! "Lucky" to our MO for talented ministers - they will either appoint a "sawmill" or a frank one ... (to put it mildly) - the "near" is shorter! What do you think after this reform? The people squeals with delight - they showed him a tank biathlon!
    1. My address
      My address 27 September 2013 16: 48 New
      +2
      In CA 70-x conventional tactical exercises tank crews were steeper than this biathlon. I don’t think it's worse now. It is bad that modern tankers are silent. Or they are not allowed by the media.
      It is sad that after the minister - the thief a minister appeared with special effects (biathlon, uniform, special vehicle for Serdyukov).
  • Samminosh
    Samminosh 27 September 2013 14: 42 New
    +2
    Not surprising. Women have always taken our country out of a deep ass.
    In addition, the generation conceived in the late 90s will grow up, soon we will have a severe demographic crisis, and the army will need everything, not just men.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 27 September 2013 16: 16 New
      +1
      Delirium
      Quote: Samminosh
      Women have always taken our country out of a deep ass
      Vasilieva and girls? Besides the slogans, are there any examples?
  • Gur
    Gur 27 September 2013 15: 18 New
    +1
    The tank biathlon showed that the best crews of the districts do not shoot very mildly, and especially cunning leaders decided to introduce women next year to say oh they are just women and we shoot a lot, and tell me who they know at the biathlon on their combat tanks or at the biathlon others are issued, and then if the cars are different, this fundamentally changes the cause of the unsatisfactory work of the crews
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 27 September 2013 20: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Gur
      The tank biathlon showed that the best crews of the districts do not shoot very softly, and especially cunning leaders decided to introduce women next year to say oh they are just women and we shoot so much

      Judging by the women snipers, no matter how we had to keep silent in a rag.
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 28 September 2013 10: 02 New
        0
        Just men snipers do not advertise.
  • My address
    My address 27 September 2013 15: 18 New
    +5
    Guys.
    I, as a normal elderly, I think that women should be protected.
    Otherwise, what are we guys?
    They have another and more important - family, incl. children and us. The family on 70%, however, keeps to the woman. Therefore, I have long believed that for one job they need to pay more. If a woman takes up arms (I do not consider the wives of the border guards), then where are we?
  • wolf
    wolf 27 September 2013 15: 33 New
    0
    and before women coped with tanks, and now even more so, everything is automated ...
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 27 September 2013 15: 34 New
    +4
    Quote: My address
    Guys.
    I, as a normal elderly, I think that women should be protected.
    Otherwise, what are we guys?
    They have another and more important - family, incl. children and us. The family on 70%, however, keeps to the woman. Therefore, I have long believed that for one job they need to pay more. If a woman takes up arms (I do not consider the wives of the border guards), then where are we?

    I agree! But while we scratch the backs of our neck, our women show us .. Stop whining and wailing or we will show you how to fight. PROTECT US and OUR .. YOUR CHILDREN !!!! .. This is the first call to us ... They love us and worry about us ..And we are all yes if only .. Oh Russia!
  • Crang
    Crang 27 September 2013 15: 45 New
    +5
    That's such idiocy and ruin the Russian army. What are female tankers? Do you want to kill women and screw up tanks? They simply cannot be tankers with their whole being. Women can only be entrusted with a tram (there is no longer a trolley bus) and DEU-Matiz. This whole game of romance in a real war will come out sideways.
    1. VAF
      VAF 27 September 2013 15: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: Krang
      That's such idiocy and ruin the Russian army.


      good +! soldier Well... drinks
    2. bereg
      bereg 1 October 2013 14: 38 New
      0
      friend, who are you to judge? In the 2nd World War there were women tankers, and such idiocy as you ruin Russia
  • eugen-medved
    eugen-medved 27 September 2013 16: 10 New
    +5
    It would be better taught to give birth, or even forgot how to do it ... am
    1. I am
      I am 27 September 2013 22: 30 New
      0
      well, if not difficult remind
    2. vkrav
      vkrav 27 September 2013 22: 31 New
      -2
      The motherland needs heroes, and whoever they give birth to, go outside and look ...
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 28 September 2013 13: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: vkrav
        The motherland needs heroes, and whoever they give birth to, go outside and look ..

        And here you are wrong, and very much. They are not born heroes, but those we educate ourselves walk along the street. As the ancient Chinese said, “Educate yourself, for your children will be like you.” hi
  • family
    family tree 27 September 2013 16: 26 New
    +6
    Anecdote in the topic:
    - Why does Abrams have an automatic transmission?
    - They have any blonde, they can say that they want to be a tank mechanic, and if they refuse, they will be carried around the courts!
    Even a single woman, in the cutting area, did not see behind the levers of the skidder or feller machine, and there it will be easier.
    Another window dressing. Oh, damn it, and uncles with big stripes love this thing for us.
  • moremansf
    moremansf 27 September 2013 16: 37 New
    +1
    This is what the mass evasion of the service of modern young people leads to ....
  • D_L
    D_L 27 September 2013 18: 31 New
    +3
    What such an extreme need made the girls dial ??? Or just having fun? So you look and the men will perform in synchronized swimming!
    1. j iz sibiri
      j iz sibiri 27 September 2013 19: 46 New
      0
      believe it is not easy
    2. bereg
      bereg 1 October 2013 15: 31 New
      0
      200 conscripts mow down from the army, and some girls cannot realize themselves in society, so what happens? (Discrimination) but if you want why not
  • waisson
    waisson 27 September 2013 20: 38 New
    +2
    and the peasants then all the mowers are left heavier than x ....... there’s nothing to raise - SHAME
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 27 September 2013 22: 44 New
      0
      Quote: waisson
      and the peasants then all the mowers are left heavier than x ....... there’s nothing to raise - SHAME

      This is exactly which army? A new iPhone in hand and already a hero ...
  • Siberian
    Siberian 27 September 2013 20: 48 New
    0
    Quote: Siberian German
    Mlyn Baba lived behind the levers of the tank
    Well, duck if many, even too many young men are hiding under their mother’s skirts. Here our little women have to sit behind the tanks so that the “boys” are not offended.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 27 September 2013 20: 58 New
    -1
    The worst thing here is the phrase "appeal of course unconscious." As long as the appeal is non-statutory - it will be a circus and that same spit and neglect. A woman can be a great tanker or tank instructor. Only if it is not done in the form of a circus.
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 27 September 2013 21: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Pimply
      A woman can be a great tanker or tank instructor.

      And a woman can lay down railway sleepers and hammer crutches in them with a sledgehammer. True, of course, not all. request
      Maybe she can, but should she be one ?!
      1. family
        family tree 27 September 2013 22: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: Alekseev
        And a woman can lay down railway sleepers and hammer crutches in them with a sledgehammer. True, of course, not all. request

        And here is a bummer. For some time now, women have not been taken to monitors on the Russian Railways. Severe discrimination based on gender. What other specialty, please, do not touch the crowbar and sledgehammer! am
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 27 September 2013 23: 55 New
          0
          I agree with the opinion of the tank battalion at the end of the article
          they are heavy shells, armor does not like weak muscles "
          Well, don’t put our dear women in a tank. The tank is the tip of the attack, they don’t belong there. ZY Well, for "Show on Channel One" it’s juicy and that’s the most ... [media = http: // http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oo9K
          uBZsB1Q]
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 28 September 2013 04: 06 New
            +1
            The creative creators of our tank television show were visited by an idea that was not inappropriate in their degree of professionalism --- to ennoble the SHOW, add strawberries and intrigues to it .. Dear, creaks --- your idea is clear to me, BUT ---------- on men will go to war, and women are bequeathed to keep the hearth and raise our replacement. Yes, there were not single cases of participation of Soviet women in the Great Patriotic War, directly on the line of fire, where one violent force destroys another violent .. But this is a war, because we have, comrades, in the “bottom line” after putting together this female tank crew? A woman on a tank, a Komsomol member on a plane, inspiring the entire television audience of the country and raising the patriotic feelings of our nation. And minus one really trained crew 72, because the “box” is busy. It's bad ? No, we survive, BUT only men should go to war as combat units, and women only in providing second-tier positions. Here, guys. Z. ... and girls bully
            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 28 September 2013 04: 09 New
              0
              [media = http: // http: //www.youtube.com/watch? feature = player_detailpage & v = oo9KuBZsB
              1Q] .....................................
              1. Thunderbolt
                Thunderbolt 28 September 2013 04: 28 New
                0
                Comrade moderators, mine doesn’t insert a video, please remove my post and the one above with a naked Yu-Tub tip, always ours, Stormbreaker soldier
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  • Prosha
    Prosha 27 September 2013 20: 59 New
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    I understand that the Minister of Defense from Shoigu is a little better than his predecessor, but it also seems to me that it is not from a good life that the question of women in the army in combat posts was raised when in the country a person who came to the military enlistment office of his own free will and declared that he wished to serve in the army they look like someone insane must show that the edge is farther. Let it be our friends, wives, daughters, but that shit .. people who mowed down from the army would be ashamed.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 28 September 2013 14: 46 New
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      Quote: Prosha
      Let it be our friends, wives, daughters, but that shit .. people who mowed down from the army would be ashamed.

      And you are ready to sacrifice friends, wives and daughters, in order to shame a bunch of shit .. people? belay fool
  • mithridate
    mithridate 28 September 2013 09: 49 New
    +1
    But is a woman needed in a tank?
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 28 September 2013 13: 53 New
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      Is a woman needed in the army in peacetime?
  • repytw
    repytw 28 September 2013 17: 11 New
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    All this is a show for a show called "tank biathlon" to flaunt foreigners next year. No need to torture women in tanks, they don’t have a place there, if women are well in the tank, waist-deep in mud with a pood shell in their hands, then this is no longer a woman. This is a man in a skirt, they start to be rude, swear, imitate peasants, why marry a woman, then you don’t need to treat them like women in the army, many people know how we teach stupid fighters with our hands, imagine that a battalion commander is for a ditched tank would do with conscripts, and maybe with a female crew.
  • Prosha
    Prosha 28 September 2013 18: 57 New
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    Quote: novobranets
    And are you ready

    No, of course, this is just a beautiful phrase, but the muzzle is filled with some military commissars and prosecutors who allow this with great pleasure ((((And all these public actions IMHO are just planned measures for the further collapse of the Russian army, begun long before sitting in the MO chair " great reformer "and, unfortunately, continuing to this day.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 28 September 2013 20: 47 New
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      Quote: Prosha
      And all these public actions of IMHO are just planned measures for the further collapse of the Russian army, begun long before the "great reformer" took seat in the chair of the Defense Ministry and, unfortunately, are still ongoing.

      Alas, our long-suffering land will not become stupid with idiots. no
  • Prosha
    Prosha 28 September 2013 19: 16 New
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    Quote: Prosha
    Quote: novobranets
    And are you ready

    No, of course, this is just a beautiful phrase, but the muzzle is filled with some military commissars and prosecutors who allow this with great pleasure ((((And all these public actions IMHO are just planned measures for the further collapse of the Russian army, begun long before sitting in the MO chair " great reformer "and, unfortunately, continuing to this day.