Monument to the first defense minister. Monument opened at the Novodevichy cemetery

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Monument to the first defense minister. Monument opened at the Novodevichy cemeteryOn Tuesday, at the Novodevichy Cemetery in Moscow, the head of the military department, Army General Sergei Shoigu, unveiled a monument to Russia's First Minister of Defense, Hero of the Soviet Union, Army General Pavel Grachev, who died suddenly on September 9, 23. The creation of a bronze sculpture on the grave of Pavel Sergeevich is a joint project of the Russian Union of Veterans of Afghanistan (RSVA) and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. At the request of Lyubov Alekseevna’s widow, Alexei Ignatov, sculptor, performed the figure of General Grachev in full growth.

“The monument to Army General Pavel Grachev is a tribute to our respect for the combat officer, fearless paratrooper and patriot of Russia. Most of his life was devoted to the army, ”Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said in his speech. He emphasized the purposefulness and high organizational skills of Pavel Grachev. “The hero of the Afghan war, Pavel Grachev, was remembered not only by successful military operations, but also by careful attitude to the personnel. In the book of irretrievable losses of the 103 airborne division during his command in Afghanistan, the dead were the least, ”said the minister and noted that Pavel Grachev had led the military department in the most difficult period of the formation of the new Russia and its Armed Forces.

In turn, the commander of the Airborne Forces, Colonel-General Vladimir Shamanov, stressed that Grachev is "a graduate and a son of the Airborne Forces."
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  1. +29
    27 September 2013 11: 09
    What is the monument for, what "merits" is it for ?!MINUS, not worthy.
    1. +28
      27 September 2013 11: 11
      Apparently, for putting our guys in Grozny. What power, such and heroes.
      1. +11
        27 September 2013 11: 39
        Good memory to the dead guys. I don't want to talk about the culprits. About the current Moscow Region, it would be better to pay tribute to the dead guys and to obey on behalf of the Ministry of Defense.
        1. +13
          27 September 2013 12: 18
          hi
          It is enough to listen to the last revelations of Grachev a month before death - the conscience is tortured to see and everything becomes clear.
          On his conscience, the force cover for the collapse of the Union by the shame of Russia Yeltsin.
          Therefore, if there is respect, and at least some kind word to him, then only during the period of service in Afghanistan, but not after ...
          1. 0
            27 September 2013 21: 57
            Thank you for the video!
            1. 0
              28 September 2013 00: 32
              hi
              You are welcome!
        2. 0
          29 September 2013 20: 02
          Quote: zart_arn
          I don't want to talk about the culprits.
          About the dead or good or nothing. So for me, nothing is much about Grachev. But you can understand Shoigu too, a protocol event, that's all. From the minister to the minister. From powerful withoutpowerful.
      2. +19
        27 September 2013 12: 09
        the following monuments to Serdyukov tol and his wife Vasily ... they have done so much !!!
        1. +2
          27 September 2013 22: 25
          Just not in life, I would like to speed up, in fairness ...
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. +1
        27 September 2013 20: 21
        No need to hang the lives of the guys on him! Grachev - soldier, received an order - carry out. Although Pasha-Mercedes has enough skeletons in the closet, I advise you to look for the real culprits. And his words, taken out of context about "we will take one regiment" .. In general, read with the words air and art training - after that there is usually nothing to storm. Why, when victory, so politicians are in color, and how defeat, so soldiers are to blame
      5. Heccrbq.2
        +3
        27 September 2013 20: 28
        I laid it down, guys, read more literature, clever men, pouring mud on Grachev, not everything is clear in this world, not everything is black and white. 99 percent would put pants on this site if the same responsibility fell on shoulders as on Grachev !
    2. +30
      27 September 2013 11: 21
      Monument to Yeltsin
      Do not worry. The people at that time have a good memory:
      1. +4
        27 September 2013 11: 58
        This mark (from the word-mark) is called a pillar of shame.
        1. +9
          27 September 2013 12: 17
          does not look without a Mercedes ...
      2. Rusich51
        0
        27 September 2013 20: 52
        EBN went down in history.
    3. +27
      27 September 2013 11: 28
      Quote: Apollon
      For what the monument, for what "merits"


      Not everyone probably remembers how Pasha-Mercedes promised to take Grozny in two hours with one regiment of the Airborne Forces. And then how many soldiers died due to this stupidity? And his words about "eighteen young men dying for Russia with a smile"? In August 1991, Grachev received an order to send troops to Moscow, but, having executed it, the next day went over to the side of Boris Yeltsin. And who then, by order of the drunk, shot the White House?

      This is a monument to the defector and put by the EBN team. And we must remember that.
      1. +7
        27 September 2013 11: 36
        Quote: Vadivak
        And we must remember that.


        Those who minus have a short memory negative good afternoon Vadim hi
        1. +6
          27 September 2013 11: 44
          I have already spoken about this!
          Interestingly, Shoigu did not go secretly to Grozny to open the monument ?! I won’t be surprised.
        2. Pit
          Pit
          +11
          27 September 2013 11: 48
          Quote: Apollon
          Those who minus have a short memory

          They don’t have it at all.
          It was replaced by "human rights" and liberal values.
          And yes, this person is worthy just to be shot west with his ashes from a cannon!
        3. +10
          27 September 2013 11: 54
          Quote: Apollon
          Those who minus have a short memory. Good afternoon Vadim


          And my memory is bad too, so I write everything down winked Good afternoon
      2. +11
        27 September 2013 12: 02
        the next day went over to the side of Boris Yeltsin

        Thus changing the oath. Apparently a monument for treason.
        1. Yarosvet
          +10
          27 September 2013 12: 24
          Quote: Beon
          Apparently a monument for treason.
          Both the monument and the Order of Merit to the Fatherland ...
          1. +9
            27 September 2013 13: 59
            Quote: Yarosvet
            Both the monument and the Order of Merit to the Fatherland ...

            "the cuckoo praises the rooster ..."
    4. predator.3
      +1
      27 September 2013 12: 56
      About the dead, either good or nothing! So Grachev was an excellent commander and mediocre Minister of Defense.
    5. +3
      27 September 2013 13: 21
      it would be better if they put something so that it would be more convenient to spit. although to be honest, as the Minister of Defense, even spitting is sorry for him.
    6. honest jew
      +17
      27 September 2013 14: 27
      Found someone to put a monument! Yeltsin's mongrel and Judas, who betrayed the State Emergency Committee and went over to the side of the shitcrats who plunged the country into chaos and poverty, we still cannot get out of this pit !!! One assault on Grozny was worth what because of this "strategist". The monument should be erected to Budanov And not to these whims of the West !!!
      1. -5
        27 September 2013 14: 31
        Quote: Honest Jew
        Yeltsin cur


        I understand the criticism of the deceased but do not accept insults at the deceased.
    7. Airman
      +5
      27 September 2013 15: 55
      Oh dead or good, or nothing, so ... keep quiet.
    8. +3
      27 September 2013 16: 40
      And what immediately and his accomplice Kvashnin will not be erected a monument, what really is there during life ?! Just no words from such impudence!
    9. +2
      27 September 2013 17: 43
      Quote: Apollon
      For what a monument, for what "merits" it?! MINUS, not worthy.

      Brother hi I won’t bet you wassat But on this issue in the near future we will talk in person am angry bully
    10. Reasonable, 2,3
      +1
      27 September 2013 19: 47
      It’s a pity the parasite did not die.
    11. Rusich51
      +1
      27 September 2013 20: 51
      From that cohort as EBN, I do not see merit.
  2. +4
    27 September 2013 11: 10
    Why is he without a Mercedes?
    Z.Y. - a monument to the commander of the 103rd division would be a plus.
    1. +1
      27 September 2013 17: 46
      Quote: lelikas
      Why is he without a Mercedes?

      Still can’t calm down? or was he supposed to ride a tram or GAZ-12 after the last capital?
      1. 0
        28 September 2013 01: 14
        And I didn’t worry, I don’t know about you, but I saw him personally, and my attitude was in a previous post.
        1. +1
          28 September 2013 15: 24
          Quote: lelikas
          but I saw him personally

          Similarly hi And long before he became minister
  3. +10
    27 September 2013 11: 10
    What about the dead? Better keep quiet.
    1. +19
      27 September 2013 11: 16
      Quote: Vladimirets
      What about the dead? Better keep quiet

      Yes, we survived ... But the people remember everything. And therefore there will be flowers on Stalin's grave all the time, and monuments to such "figures" as EBN and this Pasha will be spat upon (forgive me, Lord ...)
    2. +17
      27 September 2013 11: 36
      Why be silent? About the dead or good or the TRUTH.
      And the TRUTH is such that Grachev P.S. In an interview, he himself said that after being removed from the post of Minister of Defense, he was afraid to walk down the street because of his actions as Minister of Defense, who didn’t really paint his military general.
      All the good deeds and qualities of General Grachev P.S. crossed out with his joint criminal activity with a criminal in power Yeltsin.
    3. Yarosvet
      +9
      27 September 2013 12: 27
      Quote: Vladimirets
      What about the dead?
  4. +5
    27 September 2013 11: 12
    Why was this event covered here? And about the dead, either nothing, or the truth (not to be confused with the tolerant liberal "only good") negative
  5. +13
    27 September 2013 11: 12
    Not my topic, otherwise I’ll write such a thing that I’ll cure it from the site right away ...
    1. +3
      27 September 2013 17: 47
      Quote: major071
      otherwise I’ll write that I’ll immediately cure the site ...

      It would be interesting to read. By the way, I wrote in due time and did not fly out request
  6. +4
    27 September 2013 11: 12
    And where are the three tank columns leaving him in Grozny?
  7. +2
    27 September 2013 11: 17
    Under his command of the Airborne Forces and hereinafter Min. defense, we saw nothing good. He was a better commander. negative
  8. -14
    27 September 2013 11: 25
    The peasant was normal, the difficult time was when he took over the post of the Moscow Region, and he alone cannot be considered the culprit. Three of his deputies were afraid to take command of the operation in Chechnya. He had to personally. And so the real man and son of his homeland ...
    1. +12
      27 September 2013 11: 45
      Quote: Scandinavian
      And so the real man and son of his homeland ...

      As one of my commanders used to say, pi..th guy is not a profession.
    2. Pit
      Pit
      +13
      27 September 2013 11: 52
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Man was normal

      I would be normal, so I would shoot myself so that I could at least somehow justify myself.
      And so, the same thief and vein, he also killed the people to the heap.
      1. +11
        27 September 2013 12: 48
        The man was normal, the hard time was

        Men remain men at any time. I was here the other day on a zombie (it seems on Ren-TV) I watched how Grachev, whom he had sent to Grozny before that, was called someone's "HERRORS", and he, like, does not know how they appeared there, but they said hello to him. .. Here above advised him to shoot himself ... Well, why, at least just LEAVE. And the fact that his deputies did not take responsibility for bringing the troops into Grozny - they did it right.
        In our unit, of all the guys who were taken to the Tver Brigade, only one fighter came back alive ... These are the things.
        PS: It would be possible to consider Grachev a REAL officer if he, after the decision he made to storm Grozny, personally HEADED a convoy of Russian troops going to slaughter ...
    3. Hel
      +2
      27 September 2013 15: 21
      He supposedly gave the oath to the USSR Homeland ...
    4. +3
      27 September 2013 20: 55
      Deputies refused because of cowardice? Yes, not a single sane general could lead the operation. November 26, anyone who in their right mind made the right conclusions, and Grachev drove Maykop in full dress to the train! The tank is large, iron, the Chechens will see it and they will run away! We didn’t run away ... Anyway, the minister, who inadequately assesses the quality of the ministry, is either a criminal. Neither one nor the other monument is not erected. Unless the same, or criminals.
  9. avt
    +2
    27 September 2013 11: 30
    Quote: Scandinavian
    The man was normal

    It will not be enough for the minister. Now, if he remained in this rank or position ..........
  10. ROA
    ROA
    -17
    27 September 2013 11: 33
    Controversial person. He fought heroically in Afghanistan, and in Ochkeria his hands were tied, and I really don't want to. In 1991, he saved Moscow from a bloody bath, and in 1993 did not succumb to provocations from the Supreme Council.
    1. +11
      27 September 2013 14: 37
      First of all, he is a traitor and a traitor to the oath, a mediocre careerist, and about the normal guy tell the mothers of the dead guys through his fault
      1. +3
        27 September 2013 17: 54
        Quote: mark7
        but about a normal man, tell the mothers of the dead guys through his fault

        And at the same time, let them be told about them by the commanders of regiments and battalions who sold to the left the remains of a fuel of spare parts, etc. instead of engaging in combat training with personnel Now they are all the hero am And then they see if you were paid the salary, therefore, they sided with the soldier on the country. The main thing is to feed your miscarriages more tasty S. and in uniform negative
  11. -5
    27 September 2013 11: 38
    Quote: avt
    from if he remained in this rank or position ..........

    He was betrayed by EBN, at the behest of Berezovsky, because 96 was the year of the presidential election in Russia and it was not profitable for Yeltsin to keep the Minister of Defense, not beloved by the people. Hence the advice of Berezovsky to Yeltsin, to remove an unprofitable MO.
  12. -6
    27 September 2013 11: 42
    And it seems to me that he and Boriska decided everything in a drunken manner, in the kitchen, crushing half a liter, or even more. Otherwise, where did this wild war come from, shooting in the center of the capital and other tricks ...
    I remember even Gorbaty got drunk when they took him out of Crimea by plane.
    But if the monument is still a general, a Hero ... this is normal.
  13. +1
    27 September 2013 11: 43
    About the deceased, either good or nothing .. "God will judge him!
    1. vladsolo56
      +11
      27 September 2013 11: 46
      Quote: MIKHAN
      About the deceased, either good or nothing .. "God will judge him!

      How simple it is for you. can all criminals instill monuments in Russia
  14. +10
    27 September 2013 11: 45
    They laid a bunch of soldiers in Grozny, thousands became disabled, lost the war, a monument for his services?
    There is no more controversial decision than this!
  15. vladsolo56
    +5
    27 September 2013 11: 45
    Shame, he doesn’t need a monument but an aspen stake.
    1. +3
      27 September 2013 14: 42
      I think it will be the same with the monument to EBN
  16. +8
    27 September 2013 12: 00
    The sculpture is depicted in military uniform, but without a headdress. Where is the famous cap-airfield with a "rook of tobacco"? Were you ashamed or what?
  17. +6
    27 September 2013 12: 03
    There should be a place where you can spit a bad person in the face.
  18. +7
    27 September 2013 12: 04
    This is a chameleon from the Yeltsin team. They are to blame for the collapse of the Union, for the escalation of the war in Chechnya, he does not have to erect a monument, burn it without a trace. And the monument, I hope, will be destroyed.
  19. +6
    27 September 2013 12: 16
    I served with this "uncle" in the rank of a senior officer. I have the right to say: he did not succeed as the Minister of Defense. All the "miracles" that are happening yesterday and today in our army "have been growing" since the time of Pashka-Mercedes.
    They don't speak badly about the dead .... So I won't say anything bad. Enough of those "warm" words that I said above.
    1. +1
      27 September 2013 14: 45
      Quote: sellrub
      They don’t speak badly about the dead

      Well, they are telling the truth about them, or are generally silent
  20. +9
    27 September 2013 12: 48
    Maybe he was a hero in his youth, but under Yeltsin he became a Pasha-Mercedes (a nonentity denounced by great power). It was unpleasant to see in the video how he cowardly refused the guys sent to Chechnya two months before the New Year's attack. Children died on the orders of this "six" (they say, they were mercenaries)
    Disgraced the Airborne Forces. There is no excuse for him for his subsequent "exploits" and for the White House. And yet, the people have a high opinion of the paratroopers, despite such generals.
  21. +7
    27 September 2013 13: 14
    WHAT'S Nonsense ??????????????????????????? They choose themselves they live, they reward themselves. What kind of people can they talk about who do everything contrary to the opinions of the people. WHAT'S HAPPENING????????
  22. +6
    27 September 2013 13: 37
    He’s also at Novodevichy ... no words .... decent.
    1. +1
      27 September 2013 13: 52
      Quote: Normal
      He’s also at Novodevichy ... no words .... decent.

      Well, at least not in the new pantheon ...
  23. +3
    27 September 2013 13: 41
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Oh dead man is either good or nothing.. "God is his judge!

    How simple it is for you. can all criminals instill monuments in Russia

    You do not understand me dear! These are my words:or nothing.. "God be his judge!" Pashka-Mercedes "he will remain in the people's memory (well, I generally keep quiet about Chechnya) That's it!
  24. +3
    27 September 2013 14: 16
    how many guys died in Chechnya because of the mediocre leadership of Pasha Mercedes ..... a monument to him with flowers ?? after such steps you begin to somehow stop respecting Shoigu. fearless paratrooper son of the fatherland ..... I want to swear ....
  25. +3
    27 September 2013 14: 19
    And to whom monuments are being erected ... There are simply no words.
  26. +5
    27 September 2013 14: 21
    This article honestly killed me .. wrote a neutral comment .. (minuscule and did the right thing) .. The power of such a sensation mocks us while testing our patience .. Gorbachev Yeltsin Grachev .. it’s symbols for our people! ... devastation is the blood of humiliation and the most the main thing is the tears of the mothers of the deceased boys! I don’t have any words .. More modest how to do it, well, I don’t know .. I remember how the boy cut and shot the head .. the lump comes up to his throat .. Who puts a monument to them ???
  27. -2
    27 September 2013 14: 33
    Guys enough already, history will judge, the earth rest in peace ...
    1. +3
      27 September 2013 22: 46
      and we are history and we judge
  28. pahom54
    +6
    27 September 2013 14: 48
    Here is another indicator of the attitude of our government towards the people. In fact, the person who changed the oath in 1991, then became the Hero of Russia for hundreds of dead kiddies, today deserves honors and fame (albeit posthumously). Our rulers do not consider us people anymore? After all, they brazenly laugh at the people ... I think that Serdyuk, in due time, will also put a huge monument on Novodevichy ... Ugh on ... you know whom.
    1. +3
      27 September 2013 15: 32
      Quote: pahom54
      Here is another indicator of the attitude of our government towards the people.

      Absolutely accurate definition! good
      Pasha is a Mercedes, a "well done" feldmebel, a secret hero of Makarkin on the one hand.
      They are great!
      Generals Rokhlin, Bulgakov, Baluyevsky, Colonel Budanov and others are not good fellows, the hooligans are not democratic!
    2. +1
      27 September 2013 22: 05
      Essentially the person who changed the oath in 1991
      The man who has changed the oath in our country is now in the presidency, whose authority is to him and the monuments.
  29. pinecone
    +3
    27 September 2013 14: 56
    The time of the monument’s opening is symbolic - to the 20th anniversary of the execution of the Supreme Council of the Russian Federation.
  30. +5
    27 September 2013 15: 05
    Someone here correctly said, it is necessary to put a monument to Budanov, and not to him ....
  31. +2
    27 September 2013 15: 05
    Time will put everything in its place .. I wonder whose initiative at the expense of the monument to Grachev ..?
  32. +6
    27 September 2013 15: 26
    So, they savagely barked into the face of the living and dead Maykop brigade!
  33. +3
    27 September 2013 15: 39
    There is no desire even to talk about the lack of morality and morality of our government, one baseness, quackery and meanness in relation to the people.
  34. +1
    27 September 2013 15: 42
    Put article plus. Personally, I saw this chief in work. Impressions are different. I could tell a lot. But it will be out of place. I observe the principle: about the past or good, or nothing.
  35. +3
    27 September 2013 15: 57
    Why is the first minister of defense? Did the history of Russia begin in 1991?
    1. pahom54
      +1
      27 September 2013 17: 51
      But I either forgot something, or came to my senses. It seems that the first MO was not Pascha Mercedes, but the "smiling Air Force Marshal" Shaposhnikov? And then Grachev?
      1. 0
        27 September 2013 21: 36
        You're right! And before that, Shaposhnikov commanded Dudaev.
  36. Aydar
    +4
    27 September 2013 17: 01
    Everywhere politics even the dead are harnessed here. This is an answer to Kadyrov for a monument to Chechen women.
    Although it would be better to put a monument to Rokhlin. The monument to Grachev should be made in the form of a half-starved and untrained killed soldier in holey boots.
  37. +4
    27 September 2013 17: 30
    Ave, Caesar, morituri te salutant!

    ... You see, it looks like we're all going to die here.
    Midnight. Lowland. And the "perfume" at the start.
    What can I say? Yes, ride your horse
    Life that played a speckled card.

    Yes, they’ll pass us all like kittens,
    Without understanding - what are we? Who are we?
    Cards staff, sometimes, speckle
    This, bro, is almost an axiom

    Leaked us, man! Such a situation
    The Czechs were waiting for us on this rockad ...
    You know, yourself, that captivity is hell!
    It’s clear - you and I don’t need to go there.

    Maps are staff cards, they’re speckles in life,
    Silent deaths and lives.
    What do they, staff, two dozen guys
    Against a dozen greenbacks thousands.

    Sense them mother, du..ra..chok?
    And not such a rule bent!
    You know, Grachev heaped curly,
    Throwing tanks into the crevices of the streets.

    God is today - they are bitterly adult with us!
    Well, and to others? Remember my word:
    They just gave us up, like cards are dealt
    So, the euro will appear
    In the house of some kind of staff hell.

    Clearly, in your opinion he is a fag
    This headquarters ... Just slap - and the point!
    Only ... After all, he doesn’t know about us,
    Who are we to him? Just digits in a line.

    It's just that it's such a game
    The rules of the krap were originally laid down:
    You sell everything and everyone on “Hurray”,
    The main thing is to sell more expensive.

    Here, brother, at least noah, at least not noah -
    Everything is so twisted, the circle cannot be destroyed ...
    And rules the war and the country
    The new tribe - The speckled souls!

    ... Something I am getting off topic again ...
    How is it, nevertheless, with-, in Russian -
    Try to forgive everyone and understand!
    Pure lyrics ... Pure load.

    Stars are so low - touch your palms!
    It seems the sky is getting closer and closer ...
    Here it is! I hear the command: "Fire"!
    Time to die! ... Let's try to survive ?!

    Shah! We broke through. With you together.
    Somehow all this seems like nonsense ... but -
    Here is the firmament ... Here it is - we’ll bend the mountains,
    Dimly marked by dawn

    The battle is over, fornication begins.
    This alignment will trump cards -
    They’ll give us a medal on the snout
    You and I are, like, heroes.

    Yes, we still shake the rights!
    To no avail, clearly ... But how could it be otherwise.
    And grass will rise above the dead,
    Like the staff at the brand new cottage.

    You and I, cursing the goats,
    We’ll stupidly stomp, and maybe we’ll cry.
    ... How lucky we are today, brother!
    But nothing, there will be new surrenders ...

    yuozik wrote:
    Jun. 14th, 2011 12:43 pm (UTC)
    Re: Krap (Ruslan S.)
  38. Gur
    +3
    27 September 2013 17: 34
    Yes, he surprised Shoigu that he did not understand what resonance this action would cause or laugh at us
    1. 0
      27 September 2013 22: 50
      Yes, and Shamanov bent so badly.
  39. +2
    27 September 2013 17: 57
    A monument in the form of an aspen stake would be a worthy reward to both Grachev and his benefactor Yeltsin !!!!!
    1. Arabist
      +2
      27 September 2013 18: 02
      Pour them with concrete as a reactor at the Chernobyl NPP so that they do not jump back. And Medved, Livanov and Stool at the same time, so as not to be bored.
  40. Drosselmeyer
    +4
    27 September 2013 18: 03
    "... but also with respect to personnel." It sounds like a mockery of those killed in the New Year's assault on Grozny and beyond.
    Regarding statements about a good divisional commander, a certain Hitler, too, at one time, was a good private soldier, rose to the rank of corporal and awarded.
  41. +3
    27 September 2013 18: 55
    The monument must be put in a pool of blood, knee-deep
  42. +1
    27 September 2013 19: 17
    "Not worthy" - put it mildly.
  43. -3
    27 September 2013 19: 45
    Yes, I thought there were several more adequate comrade-gentlemen. And here is a whole zoo.
    Grachev is far from an unambiguous person with all the pros and cons, but he is worthy of at least his comrade-gentlemen for at least his service in Afghanistan.
  44. 0
    27 September 2013 21: 33
    Well, why do such things? For what? To show what? That Shoigu and Grachev once had a good relationship? I see no other reason.
  45. +2
    27 September 2013 21: 43
    Yes, come on, guys !!!

    Where was the monument put? On the Red Square? Or in front of the MO building?
    He was put in the cemetery, on his grave!
    The monument was erected under a joint project of the Russian Union of Veterans of Afghanistan (RSVA) and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. And who about yours should be at the opening - the Minister of Agriculture, or what?
    And Shoigu well done that he was not afraid to speak at the opening. Such monuments FOR THE WHOLE GROWTH should be put on the grave of every soldier who died or fought in Afghanistan. Maybe they’ll start from him ...

    But something is silent about the fact that the best alleys of Russian cemeteries adorn magnificent monuments to thieves and bandits.
  46. 0
    27 September 2013 23: 10
    Count him aspen, for the boys who died almost immediately after the KMB in the 1st Chechen ...
  47. +2
    28 September 2013 02: 29
    Of course, he arranged for veterans of Afghanistan, but for the sake of completeness, they could have invited veterans of the First Chechen and White House defense veterans, some interesting electoral position. If I were a widow, I would immediately order a cover for these statues, who knows who will come from the uninvited later
  48. San Vasilich
    0
    28 September 2013 02: 50
    Nndndddaaa.
  49. White Guard
    +2
    28 September 2013 04: 27
    The hero of the Afghan war, Pavel Grachev, was remembered not only for successful military operations, but also for his careful attitude to personnel

    Grachev waist-deep in blood since October 1993. The executioner and the killer.
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    28 September 2013 08: 47
    What is now spraying saliva? a monument to remember, but it is necessary to remember, a board under the monument must be installed with a description of the deeds and merits
  51. Lolocat
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    28 September 2013 14: 30
    This is where all our power lies.
    Apparently under Shoigu the army will be the same as under Grachev.

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