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The first two tanks "Leopard 2А4" and two BMP "Marder" were delivered to Indonesia

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The first two tanks "Leopard 2А4" and two BMP "Marder" were delivered to Indonesia

First two delivered to Indonesia tank "Leopard 2A4" and two Marder infantry fighting vehicles. This was announced on Monday, September 23, in Jakarta, the chief of staff of the Indonesian army, Lieutenant General Budiman (Budiman), the website armyrecognition.com writes with reference to tempo.co.


Four combat vehicles were delivered to the port of Tanjung Priok in northern Jakarta on Sunday morning and are now operational.

The start of deliveries of German armored vehicles was scheduled for October. Now the army plans to show these cars already on October 5 at the celebrations to mark the 68 anniversary of the Indonesian army.

Earlier it was reported that the Ministry of Defense of Indonesia bought 153 armored vehicles in Germany (61 Leopard Ri, 42 Leopard 2A4 and 50 Marder) for 280 million dollars.

The sales contract is supplemented by an agreement on technology transfer concluded by the state-owned PT Pindad and the Central Army repair base in November 2012. In accordance with the agreement, all staff will receive appropriate training.

Indonesia had never had a heavy tank before. The army was armed with light tanks, such as the British Scorpion, French AMX-13 and AMX-10P.
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  1. ShturmKGB
    ShturmKGB 27 September 2013 10: 20
    +2
    A good Leo 2 tank, although NATO, especially a gun ... but ours are better)
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 27 September 2013 10: 26
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      As I understand it, this is from the stocks of the Bundesfer. Deutsche openly sell their tanks. We decided that they are too much.
      1. il grand casino
        il grand casino 27 September 2013 11: 08
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        I so suspect those that are already more expensive to upgrade than re-melt))) A joke of humor
    2. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 27 September 2013 10: 30
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      ShturmKGB
      A good Leo 2 tank, although NATO, especially a gun ... but ours are better)

      Ours is all the best)))
      1. Col.
        Col. 27 September 2013 11: 26
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        Quote: Semyon Semyonich
        Ours is all the best)))


        That's for sure! By the way, a delegation of specialists from Indonesia (engineers, military) is now in Kurgan at the Kurganmashzavod, which for several months has been studying in detail the entire process of production, testing, fine-tuning and repair of our BMP-3. My daughter works as a translator for them, participates in the whole process. They will purchase BMP-3s for their marines. They praise Russian technology very much, and their daughter corrects them, says that almost all the technology that they like is not Russian, but Soviet!
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 27 September 2013 12: 42
          +1
          ah well done! smart girl !!!))))))
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 27 September 2013 12: 41
        +1
        has no analogues))))))))))))))))))))
  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 27 September 2013 10: 29
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    two Leopard 2A4 tanks and two Marder infantry fighting vehicles

    let the Baltic formations take an example, and then on three "countries" one tank.
    Well, for the mood-
    nuclear fungus stands-swinging
    resting right in the sky.
    FRG tanks are melting like candles.
    fuck them let the factory
    1. 270580
      270580 27 September 2013 10: 45
      -5
      utter nonsense these NATO tanks =)
    2. OffenroR
      OffenroR 27 September 2013 12: 08
      +1
      Good fellows Germans .... they know how to "Neanderthals in military affairs" sniff out worn-out old stuff)) As it was during WWII-in Switzerland, an aircraft landed with important documents ... so the Germans, to buy them out, exchanged documents for 20 Bf-109G6 or G10 (I don't remember exactly) .. later it turned out that at least the craft looks like from a factory .... but the filling ... the engines worn out to the point ... they could not fly ... but the Germans still paid compensation for this " war crime "in the 60s ....
  3. slacker
    slacker 27 September 2013 11: 07
    +8
    In vain, some members of the forum are so dismissive of German tanks. Happer sentiment does not lead to anything good.
    These cars are really from the army park. The condition of this equipment is excellent. Engine life with a minimum percentage of output. All systems are in perfect condition. Take my word for it, but our equipment is always well-groomed.
    For Indonesia, this is a very profitable acquisition, and for our military the opportunity to reduce the cost of maintaining an excess fleet of armored vehicles, get new buyers of our weapons, and use the proceeds for the seventh modernization of the Leopards, who continue to serve in the Bundeswehr.
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 27 September 2013 11: 57
      +8
      An unmeaning technique is never bad. Hobbyists of German vehicles probably prefer to drive Mercedes, Porsches and Audi, and not Zhiguli. You should always speak objectively.
      1. OffenroR
        OffenroR 27 September 2013 12: 11
        +1
        "Zhigulatniki" I suppose they envy)))
  4. 270580
    270580 27 September 2013 12: 06
    -1
    yes minus how much you will fit, this technique did not participate in real battles, I would look at how these leopards showed themselves in Chechnya and would be suitable for repair after such battles!
    1. OffenroR
      OffenroR 27 September 2013 12: 18
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      Why do you think that German military equipment is worse than Russian? German equipment is the best in the West ... although it is expensive ... but it costs its own money ... they said like the Tiger is very expensive and laborious in production, and what cheap T-34s, Sherman and Is-2, etc. So, in most cases, the Tiger managed to "fill" so much equipment that even after its destruction in terms of material and human losses, the enemy remained in large minuses ... I think over the past 65 years the Germans have not forgotten how to make excellent technique ...
      Bottom line: quality is better than quantity ... if a person’s life is appreciated ....
      1. 270580
        270580 27 September 2013 12: 24
        +3
        if it is about me, then I didn’t speak badly about German equipment =), but Russian minds will always make military equipment better, cheaper, more reliable than anyone else =)
        1. OffenroR
          OffenroR 27 September 2013 13: 14
          +2
          Tell this to the former owners of cars from "AvtoVAZ" who switched to "German technology")
  5. 270580
    270580 27 September 2013 12: 29
    +2
    So, in most cases, the Tiger managed to "fill" so much equipment that even after its destruction in terms of material and human losses, the enemy remained in big minuses ...

    For your information: German tanks in general, at first, couldn’t penetrate the T-34 in the forehead, so the gun on the tiger was urgently strengthened =)
    1. OffenroR
      OffenroR 27 September 2013 13: 09
      +3
      Quote: 270580
      So, in most cases, the Tiger managed to "fill" so much equipment that even after its destruction in terms of material and human losses, the enemy remained in big minuses ...

      For your information: German tanks in general, at first, couldn’t penetrate the T-34 in the forehead, so the gun on the tiger was urgently strengthened =)

      On the Tiger, from the first to the last tank, there was and remained the 88-mm KwK 36 L / 56 cannon (88mm ... converted from the famous 88mm Flak 18 "Akht comma Akht" anti-aircraft cannon, which smashed any equipment at a distance of 2 km until the appearance of Is 2.) The new cannon was already installed on the Koenig Tiger (Royal Tiger or T-7) to effectively fight the Is-2 (although the 88-mm KwK 36 coped quite comfortably with the Is-2, the KwK-43 was still better ... ) In further modifications, they even wanted to install the KwK-44 (a converted PAK-44 anti-tank gun, the most powerful gun of the Second World War), which theoretically could penetrate the IS-2 subcaliber projectile at a distance of 1200-1300 meters NAVY. The first tank that was able to "survive" hits from of this gun at a distance of less than a kilometer was the Is-7.
    2. OffenroR
      OffenroR 27 September 2013 14: 19
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      So I have more than enough information)))
  6. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 27 September 2013 12: 39
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    Well, we can congratulate Indonesia on the acquisition, given that these are the first MBTs in the Indonesian Armed Forces, before that they had only light tanks: 300 AMX-13 and 100 Scorpion-90 (English "Scorpion" with a 90-mm Belgian cannon "Kokkeril"). The Marine Corps uses our PT-76, in the amount of 90 units. At the end of the 1990s, new engines, transmissions and 90-mm Kokkeril guns were installed. In the Western press they are designated as PT-2000.

    The fact of the purchase of the Marder BMP is a little surprising, especially considering that the Indonesians already have 22 units of South Korean K-21 BMP
    http://www.army-guide.com/rus/product1281.html
    ,

    and BVP-2, the Slovak copy of BMP-2. However, the Marine Corps uses 100 French BMX AMX-10 (10 with a 90-mm gun AMX-10PAC 90),

    17 BMP-3F (total ordered 54, 37 with delivery by July 2013, so that the delivery was likely to take place),

    40 BVP-2, Slovak copy of BMP-2

    There is also 12 BTR-80A (English Wiki speaks of 48).
    Thus Indonesia will have 5 (five) BMP types!
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    Turbo 253 27 September 2013 13: 06
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  11. Hikar
    Hikar 27 September 2013 13: 59
    +3
    Why is the largest island nation in the world a 55-ton monster created for a large-scale war on the plains of Europe? Isn't it more logical to buy a couple of hundred BMP-3F instead of all this non-floating iron?
    1. OffenroR
      OffenroR 27 September 2013 14: 16
      +5
      Japan also thought during WWII))) Everyone knows the result)) Now imagine .... Ha Guo vs. Is-3))
    2. Hektor
      Hektor 27 September 2013 21: 23
      +1
      Quote: Hnikar
      Why is the largest island nation in the world a 55-ton monster created for a large-scale war on the plains of Europe? Isn't it more logical to buy a couple of hundred BMP-3F instead of all this non-floating iron?


      Because another island state has 200 leopards with something under their very nose, and this is not counting other equipment.

      In general, they could have had a budget adequate to their status if it were not for these colossal subsidies for everything.

      Py.Sy. What will BMP 3 do in a city battle with Leo ??
  12. Hikar
    Hikar 28 September 2013 06: 26
    +1
    Is that the three? Leo’s barrel in the city from a hundred parts that he won’t take? Even if it gets into the forehead it will fail. it is possible to demolish all the aiming equipment from an automatic cannon and in the field from a controlled projectile from far away
    1. OffenroR
      OffenroR 28 September 2013 15: 42
      +1
      And the Germans at this time will sausages hawl and drink beer)))