The villages of Tatarstan are settled by fundamentalist migrants ... New Kondopoga?

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Radical Islamism

Against the background of the terrorist attack carried out by the Wahhabis in Kazan on July 19 2012, during which Mufti Ildus Faizov was wounded, and his deputy, the famous Tatar theologian Valiullu Yakupov, an adherent of the traditional Tatars of Islam of the Hanafi mazhab, was shot dead in the home of the traditional Tatars of Islam of the Hanafi mazhab, he was shot dead by the adherent of the traditional Tatars of Islam of the Hanafi mazhab, he was shot dead by an adherent of the traditional Tatars of Islam of the Hanafi mazhab, was shot dead by a Tartar theologian, a supporter of the traditional Tatars of Islam of the Hanafi mazhab, was shot dead by a Tatar religious scholar Valiullu Yakupov. migration policy, in which followers of "pure" Islam already populate even the villages of this region of the Middle Volga region. This can lead to a conflict of migrants with both Russians and Tatars, an example of which can be the newest story Shumkovo village, Rybno-Slobodsky district of Tatarstan, which was visited by a field expedition of the Volga Center for Regional and Ethnic-Religious Studies of the Russian Institute of Strategic Studies.

Historically, Shumkovo was a Russian village. His chronicle begins with the 1790 year, when it was founded on the orders of Catherine II to settle empty lands. The inhabitants of the village were state peasants, many of whom had managed to break out into the merchant class. In 1874-1880, the Ascension Church was built in the village. At the beginning of the twentieth century in the village were 700 yards. Today, 320 people live in the village, of which about 100 are registered Tajiks.

In Soviet times, the Tatars began to settle there, which did not cause tension. Recently, however, the traditional ethnic composition in the village began to change rapidly. Along with the Russian and Tatar population in 2000, the Tajik population visited the village actively. Information about the process of active migration of a religiously motivated population from Central Asia and the North Caucasus has been received repeatedly from different regions of Tatarstan (in the cities this is more noticeable). In order to check it, a trip was made to the village of Shumkovo, the situation in which, apparently, is already tense to the limit, with the result that we can expect a recurrence of the “Kondopoga syndrome” in this Russian village. In the Rybno-Slobodsky district itself there is still the same picture in the villages Khutor and Kachkalak. The situation is similar to that in the village of Shumkovo, there is in other areas of Tatarstan with a noticeable presence of the Caucasian and Central Asian population.

About the unfavorable social situation in the countryside can be understood at the entrance to it. The destroyed buildings of cowsheds, overgrown with weeds, is a clear evidence of this. If in the 2006 year, as reported a year ago, the regional agrarian newspaper "Zemlya Zemlettsa" had three stores (one Ripovsky and two private ones), now there is only one store that we saw. However, the all-Russian economic crisis in the countryside, creating a disaster for the villagers, in Shumkovo is also overshadowed by the ethno-religious situation.

According to local residents, the Tajiks began to settle in the village compactly with 2004 of the year. Initially, the house in the village was bought by one of them. He moved his large family. Then other Tajiks began to buy houses, who often moved with their polygamous families.

From the Tajik population, 42-year-old Shakheretdin, who came to Russia in 1995, agreed to talk with us. After long journeys around the country (he has a second Russian wife in Yekaterinburg with his daughter), he settled in Shumkovo, bought a house, moved his first wife and his children from Tajikistan, some of whom were already born here. Stroking a thick beard, he told us that one of his son is studying at the Islamic University of Al-Azhar in Egypt, and very well relates to the Islamists ruling there, the other in one of the Kazan madrasas. The rest of the children are small. In his words, Scheheretdin himself works as a builder in Kazan, but local residents doubt the honest work of their new uninvited villagers, hinting at their dubious income related to drug trafficking. However, the residents are most worried about something else: they fear the Wahhabi expansion in the village.

“We want to build our own mosque, but the residents are against it, although we would be happy if they also prayed there,” complains Scheheretdin, hinting that the local population is completely drunk, although we have not seen drunk people in the village.

We go through the unasphalted village. We pass by one of the houses in which the Tajik family lives. The woman who saw us immediately ran into the house. Tajik children ride by bicycles. As it turned out, in the Shumkov school there is only one child from local residents, all the rest are Tajik. We meet two Russian women. We talked. "They want to build their own mosque here, not only we, but also the Tatars against." “Why is that?”, We ask. “Tatars say: there are mosques in the neighboring Tatar villages, we go there to perform all the rituals, and we don’t want to pray with the Tajiks, they have another Islam, not ours,” the women say, adding that the Tajiks are far from peaceful: the village, leading Islamic agitation, not only the Tatars, but also the Russian inhabitants are being urged to convert to Islam, and in a variety from which the Tatars themselves deny. The propaganda of unconventional Islam for the Tatars is conducted regularly, which clearly annoys the inhabitants.

The chairman of the Shumkovsky Village Council, Gabdelbar Zakirov, said that all Tajiks live legally and all have permissions to do so. The village official acknowledged that the problem of ethno-religious relations is taking place, and there have even been fights, but urged the situation not to be dramatized. “Yes, the locals are against their mosque, but we are negotiating,” Zakirov admits, not wanting to go into details.

The director of the mini-factory under construction in Shumkovo, Murat Galimzyanov, was more outspoken: "The Tatars living in the village are also against migrants, because they have a completely different, non-traditional Islam, not the same as in Tatarstan." The local entrepreneur admitted that “migrants act slyly: where they meet with decisive resistance to the establishment of their own order, they retreat, where there is no resistance, they become impudent”. Among such examples, he noted the question of the construction of a mosque: here the locals all united in strong protest, including the Tatars, who recognize the village as Russian, and for performing rites are sent to the neighboring Tatar villages. And the construction of the mosque is still frozen. But in the matter of the chaotic pasture of rams, migrants are more arrogant here: “Their cattle often walk without supervision, run into the gardens, eating planted vegetables, and if they look after it, they charge it to young children who send it to graze and, accordingly, shit right in the village orthodox cemetery or in the church, but you can't punish a child, and adult Tajiks hide behind their children. ”

The head teacher of the Shumkov school Nadezhda Kondratyeva, now a pensioner, ran to catch up with us, having learned from our neighbors about our arrival. “You have no idea what's going on here!”, A woman tells us, out of breath. According to the teacher, 7 lives in the village of very large Tajik families, among which there are polygamous ones, but the number of those who are registered reaches hundreds of people, many of whom do not live in the village itself. “Men walk around in short pants, beards are three fingers long, but after the terrorist attack in Kazan, they began to mimic clothes, wear long pants like everyone else,” notes Nadezhda Kondratieva, who turns out to be an active Internet user, from whom much has come to learn about non-traditional forms of foreign Islam for Tatarstan and notice this in their new neighbors in the village. A school teacher told us that in the village school one local child and all the other children of migrants study: “I don’t know what language the teachers speak to them”. As it turned out, the Tajiks initially wanted the building of the post office, which is a merchant’s mansion from the beginning of the twentieth century, to be turned into its mosque. However, when residents were against it, the migrants decided to build their prayer institution from scratch. “Here they cleared a place for a mosque,” ​​Kondratieff’s plot prepared for construction shows, “but we, the villagers, staged a village gathering, where everyone opposed it unanimously, including the Tatars, who said that they conduct religious rites in neighboring Tatar villages , and they will not go to the Wahhabi mosque ”.

Residents show the house, as they called it, the Tajik imam. “He lived 12 for years in North Waziristan (Pakistan), now he came here to preach,” they told us in a village shop. Home owner was not there, looked out his young children, one of whom is called Zawahiri. Imam's neighbor Pavel and his wife report that Tajiks often come to him in cars: “Sometimes 20 machines will come right away, they pray there”.

We walked to the old abandoned Ascension Church, which stands alone from the village. The temple was desecrated in the 1930s. According to residents, sometimes Orthodox youth come there on Saturday, cleans the temple from the dung left by sheep. Someone started a rumor that supposedly Kazan Metropolis plans to build a monastery near the village and restore the temple. How this is so far is unknown.

It is not clear how the secular authorities are guided both at the level of the Rybnoe-Slobodsky district and at the level of Tatarstan, if they allow people to take up villages who studied or fought somewhere in the Greater Middle East. We all believed that the colonization of the other-ethnic and foreign-religious population of Russia goes on the borders with China, but it turns out that this is already taking place in the very heart of the country - in the Volga region. It is obvious that even if the Tatar population notes that Islam is unconventional for Russia among the newcomers, is it worth it then to allow the compact living of its carriers. References “to eternally drinking” Russians and Tatars who have departed from the supposedly “pure” Islam are usually conducted by different Moscow sheiks who have assisted terrorists like Said Buryatsky and Islamist information resources on the Internet. The fact that, along with labor migration, Islamic fundamentalism is penetrating has long been noticed by experts. It is strange that local supervisory authorities are not even interested in the activities of religiously motivated migrants living in the villages of Tatarstan. Is it deliberately done this way, that they give the go-ahead to living “hardworking and non-drinking co-religionists”, who do not understand where they work and where they get such income, or because of criminal stupidity? But the second generation of migrants is growing up, which was already born in Russia, but completely cultural and civilizational values ​​that do not share it. Will we get an analogue of France or Germany, where stupid Europeans, guided by merciless tolerance and ideas of multiculturalism, are now afraid to go into some quarters of their own cities even during the day?

Before leaving, we were approached by a local resident. To the question “How do you live?” She answered: “I am afraid to say this, but it would be better if they would live in their homeland. And we would be calm from this. " We have nothing left but to wish her courage, strength and hope. “Hope and spiritual strength will appear only when an Orthodox church is restored here,” looking at the abandoned Ascension Church, a simple Russian woman crossed herself.
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  1. +44
    26 September 2013 06: 55
    So across Russia in Siberia the same thing. Crowds of looming migrants ... what they live for ... a question of drug control.
    1. fklj
      +31
      26 September 2013 07: 44
      There are a lot of questions and not only to drug control.
      For what purpose are they imported if the work itself is not enough?
      Who let them in? And why is the border service with customs?
      Who hires them and does they pay taxes?
      Who examines them for diseases?
      Etc.

      Russians have accumulated a lot of questions
      1. Heccrbq.2
        +10
        26 September 2013 08: 37
        Why bring in? They are easier to manage, they turned us into an easily-managed herd, homothelivizicus, and with these in general, put the right imam so that he would sing the right songs and everything, the ready-made revolutionaries to establish the Volga Caliphate, and Vovchik would lead them wherever he needed .
      2. New Russia
        +7
        26 September 2013 12: 31
        "Who let them in? And what is the border service and customs for?" I will give the approximate words of the head of the migration service "Now there are a lot of migrants all over the place, there is nothing wrong with them settling in our deserted lands" "visa regime is a tough and incomprehensible measure." And this is in a disastrous situation! The saddest thing is that many are still waiting for measures from the authorities and do not understand that it was Putin who started it in the 90s, this was not the case. Yeah now he will hear the people and do as he wants) Not for that he started it, when the majority of them there will be no one to be indignant wait, bear with, Putin is goodXD)
    2. vadimus
      +19
      26 September 2013 08: 07
      But who in general lets this evil to us? I understand more in the mines to prescribe them, but to let them into peaceful life .... It does not fit in my head !!!!
      1. +10
        26 September 2013 08: 45
        Quote: fklj
        Who let them in?



        Quote: vadimus
        But who in general lets this evil to us?

        Who, who? Our officials. Power!
        Again, I was struck by the remark of the chairman of the Shumkovsky village council "not to dramatize the situation." I understand that you can still live?
        Will their son return from the Arab Emirates with the Wahhabi infection received in Arab madrassas and will the "fun" begin?
        And I often notice that (our) government cannot work ahead of the curve.
        Not a wolfhound, but some kind of toothless slow cow!
        Again, all hope for Vladimir Putin? He will personally give instructions and work in this direction will boil! Sartirs only need to be configured more!
      2. +15
        26 September 2013 09: 09
        I have a Tajik friend, a talented video director and cameraman. He is a very good guy and has a wonderful family. It seems to me that no one will refuse such migrants. And the wild hordes that come under the program of "resettlement of compatriots", to put it mildly, cause bewilderment. They don't know how to do anything (and they don't want to), they are interrupted by odd jobs, including those that do not quite fit into the framework of the current legislation of the Russian Federation.
        But, unfortunately, such "citizens" of the government are beneficial. The ability to collect a bribe from them - one, the ability to easily control the powerless under the threat of deportation - two, the ability to pay them a penny, putting the difference in your pocket - three, the ability to painlessly carry out actions to "identify" and "suppress" in order to increase reporting and in parallel - extortions, four ...
        In a word, there is no one in the world more tolerant than our government when it is beneficial to it.
      3. Airman
        +19
        26 September 2013 09: 14
        Quote: vadimus
        But who in general lets this evil to us? I understand more in the mines to prescribe them, but to let them into peaceful life .... It does not fit in my head !!!!

        More important for Putin is the 201st base in Tajikistan, which does not solve anything there, except for the support of Rakhmon, and migrants, in millions and tons of drugs, are coming to us. He is closer to the oligarchs who need cheap labor, and not the people, so the issue will not be solved with migrants until 2017, and they will think there.
        1. New Russia
          0
          26 September 2013 12: 32
          Why until 2017?) And he still will not be shot in 2017? ...
    3. slacker
      +22
      26 September 2013 09: 10
      Immediate and total deportation of foreigners from Russia is a matter requiring the most expeditious execution.
      Procrastination of death is like!
      1. Airman
        +11
        26 September 2013 09: 19
        Quote: Loafer
        Immediate and total deportation of foreigners from Russia is a matter requiring the most expeditious execution.
        Procrastination of death is like!

        Now they are not foreigners, 70% bought, thanks to the venality of officials, Russian citizenship, and, barely speaking in Russian, they are Russians.
        1. Crocodile
          +10
          26 September 2013 10: 01
          Is Tajiks the only question?
          The whole Far East becomes Chinese, the exodus of the Russian population from Stavropol actually began, mosques open in all regional cities of Russia.
          When already our officials will stop selling their people for thirty pieces of silver!
          1. +4
            26 September 2013 11: 01
            Quote: Crocodile
            Is Tajiks the only question?
            The whole Far East becomes Chinese, the exodus of the Russian population from Stavropol actually began, mosques open in all regional cities of Russia.

            The Chinese in the Far East are, of course, a problem.
            But not as sharp as the radical Islamists.
            Something I have not heard about Chinese terrorists.
            God grant that he never heard.
            You need to start with the most acute and painful problem.
            The Chinese will wait.
            1. +3
              26 September 2013 14: 53
              With immigrants from SR. Asia they can easily cope; they don’t have a strong state; political will would be behind them. With China and the Chinese, the situation is completely different where the Chinese are entrenched, they are no longer shifted.
              1. +1
                26 September 2013 14: 58
                Quote: Semurg
                With immigrants from SR. Asia they can easily cope and there is no strong state behind their backs would be political will. With China and the Chinese, the situation is completely different where the Chinese have entrenched them are no longer shifted.

                The opposite is true. It is possible to resolve the issue with China on the basis of interstate agreements. And China will not raise a howl for several million expelled illegal immigrants. This is a common story for them.
                With the countries of Central Asia, the situation is completely opposite. The welfare of their population largely depends on migrant workers. They cannot afford to abandon them. Otherwise, they will have much harder.
                If we take into account the underground methods of penetrating creeping Wahhabism, the explicit and hidden support of the national diasporas and local governments (including flirting with the West), the direct and immediate interests of Russia in Central Asia, the picture is very depressing.
                That is, with China, Russia can play in an open field.
                With Islamic radicalism hiding behind the backs of such migrants, there is no way.
                1. +2
                  26 September 2013 15: 10
                  it is necessary to work with Wahhabis as hard as possible and as soon as possible if it is very dangerous to launch this business; in 90, this business was left to chance by itself, like religion and the state. Separately. and then we got ter. I’m looking at acts now, don’t stand on ceremony, though it’s already hard, but the main thing is the will of the state. China doesn’t have to raise a howl enough that it exists and everyone has to reckon with it when dealing with the Chinese.
          2. +5
            26 September 2013 11: 02
            Quote: Crocodile
            The whole Far East becomes Chinese

            Just do not write this nonsense, do not. Yes, the Chinese are working, but there is no such threat as from the same Chechens in the same Far East.
          3. New Russia
            +1
            26 September 2013 12: 33
            Do you believe that?) They never stop while we endure
          4. +1
            26 September 2013 13: 14
            Have you been to the Far East ?! A small ghetto is only in Blag and Vladik, otherwise there are not many of them everywhere. We in Eburg have as many as in Vladik.
    4. +9
      26 September 2013 09: 56
      Before leaving, we were approached by a local resident. To the question “How do you live?” She answered: “I am afraid to say this, but it would be better if they would live in their homeland. And we would be calm from this. " We have nothing left but to wish her courage, strength and hope. “Hope and spiritual strength will appear only when an Orthodox church is restored here,” looking at the abandoned Ascension Church, a simple Russian woman crossed herself.

      It's time for the authorities and the power to apply. Drive Wahhabis from our land.
      I wish the Russians and Tatars success in this matter.
    5. +5
      26 September 2013 10: 17
      .. sluggish corrosion from the inside ... no war and Tomahawks necessary .. Relocation under any pretext -compact grouping by region-requirement of your language-culture-education -... and off we go ..
    6. +1
      26 September 2013 13: 59
      Give Putin! Give Tolerance! Well, where are you agitators for edrosov? Responsible for the genocide of the indigenous peoples of Russia!
      1. 0
        26 September 2013 20: 11
        It is necessary to solve something with this, otherwise it will be too late.
  2. +12
    26 September 2013 07: 04
    It is unclear what the secular authorities are guided by both at the Rybno-Slobodsky district level and at the level of Tatarstan, if they allow the settlement of villages by people who studied or fought somewhere in the Greater Middle East
    The same as when agriculture was destroyed, destroying villages with money
    he has a second Russian wife in Yekaterinburg with his daughter
    The same b ... as the officials, only on a different scale.
    Enraged by the impotence of the authorities, as in the unkind word mentioned Yeltsin’s times
    It was these very same people who shouted to the Russians "go to your Rasia", and now they themselves pinned themselves as if nothing had happened
    1. +16
      26 September 2013 07: 13
      And it infuriates that 1000 women can catch 15 of them deported on the plane, instead of a boarded-up freight car.
  3. +10
    26 September 2013 07: 05
    Interestingly, those who depend on decision-making for what kind of money these things decide: Saudi or Qatari.
  4. zevs379
    +10
    26 September 2013 07: 05
    Just imagine how many such villages are around large cities !!!!
    And what will happen when when the Wahhabis united by a common idea call for jihad?
    The longer Putin stays idle and prevents the People from freely owning weapons, the more they will have to shed BLOOD.
    1. Sergh
      -8
      26 September 2013 07: 15
      Quote: zevs379
      The longer Putin stays idle and prevents the People from freely owning weapons, the more they will have to shed BLOOD

      Well fuck, again Putin is to blame !!!
      Who's stopping you from owning a weapon? I went at one time, brought two hunters with a recommendation and bought myself a great five-shot barrel, officially with a safe. I live and do not shake, sometimes shoot a duck at a duck.
      So, you don’t need to whine about this and weapons in the bakery department are also free to sell!
      1. zevs379
        +25
        26 September 2013 07: 21
        And YOU use your weapon - under the current laws, who will be to blame?
        It's not about domestic crime, but about Putin's ostrich national policy.
      2. Crocodile
        +4
        26 September 2013 10: 06
        Are you familiar with the law on weapons?
        Our laws are such that with an official shotgun you’ll rather sit down than with an illuminated barrel in your pocket!
        1. +1
          26 September 2013 14: 22
          Better to sit than to be in the cemetery.
      3. +16
        26 September 2013 10: 15
        Quote: Sergh
        Well fuck, again Putin is to blame !!!

        So I'm not saying that Putin. Who?
        It’s normal, with two trustees to buy a barrel (I would buy a pair of grenade boxes on the recommendation), and then, at home, lay the windows with sand bags, block the doors and barrage, shoot.
        But what the hell, then we contain a guarantor, a government, an army of officials, the Ministry of Internal Affairs? And who is to blame for the fact that the Tajiks are slowly but surely starting to force us out of our living space? Let's shoot back.
      4. +8
        26 September 2013 10: 56
        Quote: Sergh
        Well fuck, again Putin is to blame !!!

        Definitely YES !!! This already poses a threat to national security and can not be seen only by a blind person or a traitor to national interests! From this the question arises - who (Putin) is who?
    2. Captain Vrungel
      +14
      26 September 2013 07: 54
      Once they arrive, it means that the government will inspire. So someone in power needs this. ... What for???
      1. +1
        26 September 2013 21: 45
        why why? ask yourself how the population of Russia reached the figure of 143 million. when did the number of Russians in the period 2002-2010 decrease by 4872211
        man. How is population growth caused if the birth rate is low? Migrants are needed in order to implement the state program of the government, which promised to ensure a population growth in the country in a short period of time. That’s why they are allowed to enter the country. And officials of different stripes have only the benefit. It’s also Klondike. Eldorado.
  5. vitek1233
    +7
    26 September 2013 07: 09
    There are a lot of questions for our capitalists, they also need cheap slave power. And the laws that they adopt regarding migrants, but they wanted to spit am
    1. +1
      26 September 2013 17: 35
      Quote: vitek1233
      There are a lot of questions for our capitalists, they also need cheap slave power. And the laws that they adopt regarding migrants, but they wanted to spit am

      Yes, the oligarchs will achieve that their people will begin to hang on poles as in 17.
  6. predator.3
    +11
    26 September 2013 07: 10
    that Tajiks are far from peaceful: they constantly go around the village, conduct Islamic propaganda, not only the Tatars, but also Russian residents are encouraged to convert to Islam, and in a form from which the Tatars themselves deny themselves. Propaganda of Islam unconventional for the Tatars is carried out regularly, which clearly annoys the residents.


    this is already a jamb of the local police department, with such "agitators" you have to do it simply: a suitcase (more precisely, a bag) - a railway station - Dushanbe, and blacklisted!
    Crowds of wandering migrants ... what are they living on ... a question for drug control.

    The question is rhetorical and the answer will be rhetorical, but what does drug control live for (GOSKOMDUR)?
    1. New Russia
      +1
      26 September 2013 12: 39
      Drug control in some places is arrested by the whole for drug trafficking. That's why he and drug control to control drugs)
  7. +13
    26 September 2013 07: 11
    Now the vast, numerous and close-knit Islamic diaspora of the site will claim that the author is a alarmist and nothing terrible is happening. Arguments are well-known and already filled their teeth. Waiting for ...
    1. -17
      26 September 2013 07: 45
      AHA, and not only Islamic. I affirm
      that the author is a alarmist and nothing bad happens.
      For the buildup of the situation, fertile soil is needed, such as an unemployed population, dissatisfied with the authorities. I was in Tatarstan three months ago. Fine both the city and the village feel well. So, the author wants to surf in the wake of Islamophobia.
      1. +11
        26 September 2013 09: 15
        Quote: a52333
        So, the author wants to surf in the wake of Islamophobia.
        Islamophobia did not fall from the sky, and did not "spontaneously" like mice in a pile of dirty linen. And it appeared as a reaction to the sharply increased aggressiveness of Islam in the form of Wahhabism and other similar trends. Exactly according to Newton's law that every action causes opposition. This applies not only to mechanics.
        1. +7
          26 September 2013 12: 02
          I will not put a minus, because you are sincerely mistaken. I live in a neighboring region and I know that dashing "mujahideen" are already traveling in border villages, collecting zyakat. It is clear that these are just coopers, but since they are doing under the guise of jihad, it means that "true warriors of Allah" will soon appear. If you do not notice the disease, it does not mean that it is not there.
    2. antifa-antira
      +3
      26 September 2013 16: 47
      I myself am a Muslim, and if it’s really Wahhabis then I need to get rid of them. Wahhabis are a cancer-malignant tumor in Islam. Tatarstan is a Hanafi madhhab and Tajikistan is also a Hanafi madhhab. But Wahhabis need to be wet. They started a civil war in Tajikistan in 1992-1997, thanks to them, Tajik citizens (as you all love migrant workers) go to Russia to earn money. I visited Tajikistan there are not a few Russians, by the way, and no one is in conflict with anyone, Wahhabism is the destruction of all Islam, Wahhabis are simply not people and godless
  8. +18
    26 September 2013 07: 13
    This Wahhabi infection (in the literal and figurative sense) must be burned in the bud. Or will we wait until they begin to cut us on our own land?
  9. +13
    26 September 2013 07: 15
    to drive this filthy broom all this shushera back to their wretched homeland
  10. zevs379
    +19
    26 September 2013 07: 17
    This is a latent "Kosovo" scenario: the local people, in search of work, leave for a large city, and an alien who initially hates it is settled in its place. Until they are quiet a little and then they accumulate power, the officials will be bribed and you are no longer the owner in your native village. And if you do nothing, then in 5-7 years there will be a big, bloody Syria !!! Here is the joy of America fellow
    And Putin oversees Olympic Olympic objects - wai maladets good
    1. +2
      26 September 2013 14: 23
      Јa Serb and Veechem rule Zeus. This katori process started нач. B. Tito, brought Albanian from Albania, and Serbia hung in proud and to the north. After 15-20 years, this policy has yielded a result. So yes, Nada will end the trouble, then there will be shame or a lot of blood spilled! Money to buy land on Kosovo always came from Saudi Arabia and one Narco Trgova, this is no secret!
  11. 0
    26 September 2013 07: 36
    Propaganda of Islam unconventional for the Tatars is carried out regularly, which clearly annoys the residents.
    Unconventional Islam - What is it, such as non-traditional orientation? wassat
    1. Ruslan_F38
      +3
      26 September 2013 10: 21
      Quote: Nagan
      Propaganda of Islam unconventional for the Tatars is carried out regularly, which clearly annoys the residents.
      Unconventional Islam - What is it, such as non-traditional orientation? wassat


      Funny of course, but be careful:
      On November 23, a meeting on the case of Kazan Pavel Khotulev continued in the Soviet District Court of Kazan. The essence of the accusations boils down to the fact that Khotulev, in harsh terms, stated on the Internet forum that he was dissatisfied with the authorities in Tatarstan and that he did not want to teach the Tatar language to his schoolchild. According to Tatar nationalists, Pavel Khotulev will be convicted under Art. 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.http: //ruskline.ru/news_rl/2012/11/26/v_tatarstane_nachinayutsya_goneniya_na_
      russkih /

      No matter how attracted you, God forbid, of course, you have compared them with p ... they may be "offended" hi
      Who cares, I can lay out the whole article in which this demon is described in detail, there is not one Hotulev.
      1. vkrav
        +8
        26 September 2013 12: 05
        And in Russia, nationalism is only Russian ... Something did not come across that Dag or Chich was tried for inciting ethnic hatred ... Some Russians, damn it, nationalists. Moreover, at home ... And what are all sorts of chebureks doing and other mountains - in the best case of everyday life ... But in no case is nationalism, or, moreover, Islamic extremism ..
        1. Ruslan_F38
          +2
          26 September 2013 13: 39
          Quote: vkrav
          And in Russia, nationalism is only Russian ... Something did not come across that Dag or Chich was tried for inciting ethnic hatred ... Some Russians, damn it, nationalists. Moreover, at home ... And what are all sorts of chebureks doing and other mountains - in the best case of everyday life ... But in no case is nationalism, or, moreover, Islamic extremism ..


          No matter how sad and wild it sounds - but you're right.
      2. 0
        26 September 2013 19: 27
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        No matter how attracted you, God forbid, of course, you have compared them with p ... they may be "offended"

        Not attracted - we have here, at least in such cases, freedom of speech fellow
        And as for the comparison with n ..., unfortunately here it is not an insult, but rather a matter of pride sad So even more so they will not attract.
    2. +3
      26 September 2013 15: 04
      Quote: Nagan
      Propaganda of Islam unconventional for the Tatars is carried out regularly, which clearly annoys the residents.
      Unconventional Islam - What is it, such as non-traditional orientation? wassat

      Well, this is as Orthodoxy is the traditional movement in Christianity in Kazakhstan, but there are not traditional movements of Adventists, Evangelists, witnesses, etc., who gossip at the gates every day and offer to hear the good news. And we and your state agencies need to turn to this very close attention. and if there is something against the law to take measures and it’s better to launch this business sooner rather than later.
      1. vkrav
        +1
        26 September 2013 15: 50
        Honestly, Adventist terrorists and evagelistic martyrs did not come across laughing .Although no one especially hides that most of the sects are stupidly re-editions and are funded directly from the US ...
        1. +4
          26 September 2013 16: 20
          Quote: vkrav
          Honestly, Adventist terrorists and evagelistic martyrs did not come across laughing .Although no one especially hides that most of the sects are stupidly re-editions and are funded directly from the US ...

          we had the same complacency until it was revealed that the "Jehovah's Witnesses" were watching and collecting databases on the power unit - probably God asked them, the only difference is that they perform different functions along with their main functions of capturing souls and multiplying the flock of Christ. -residency. musm. sects-militants. of course I understand that I destroy your peace by putting them on the same board, because the Wahhabis are byaki and the witnesses are white and fluffy.
        2. +1
          26 September 2013 19: 18
          Quote: vkrav
          Although no one especially hides that most of the sects are stupidly re-editions and are funded directly from the US ...
          It is from there, but has nothing to do with the authorities. The world headquarters of the "witnesses" in Brooklyn, not far from Brooklyn Bridge, passed by more than once while living there. Here they also go home, offer brochures, try to talk. But if they are politely sent on a pedestrian route (meaning intimate in their minds), then they just as politely excuse themselves and leave. And they live from donations and especially wills frowning, so most of all they adhere to non-poor old people. Again, the elderly, especially the lonely, easier to tame, they are conducted to express participation. Oddly enough, some of them are fluent in Russian, apparently they are doing a good homework on the subject of which frowned to whom to send. The addresses and first names and surnames of all are here in the telephone directory, and by surname it is not difficult to guess who is who.
          So I recommend treating them with an indication of the direction where they should go. laughing
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  13. +9
    26 September 2013 07: 41
    It is terrible to imagine that the Russians will again have to assert the right to live on their land according to Russian traditions, if the authorities do not change the spread throughout the country of these bearded who can only kill for that. that you are not a Muslim and do not know their mother ... a prophet.
    1. Captain Vrungel
      +11
      26 September 2013 08: 45
      Almost reality
  14. +20
    26 September 2013 08: 02
    yesterday a photo came across in the internet: "August 2 in Mytishchi"
    1. Ruslan_F38
      +4
      26 September 2013 10: 24
      Quote: Gleb
      yesterday a photo came across in the internet: "August 2 in Mytishchi"


      An interesting photo .. It’s a pity they just chose those hlipenki, you had to have bearded and bigger and bigger ones.
      1. Dober
        +2
        26 September 2013 12: 18
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        and more of these photos.

        In the form of huge banners on advertising space?
        1. Ruslan_F38
          +5
          26 September 2013 13: 37
          Quote: Dober
          In the form of huge banners on advertising space?


          Well, why is it so radical, in the squares it is not necessary that all of you in the square with posters are pulling you?)) Your photo does not honor the paratroopers - the forces are not equal, it looks like beating a baby)).
          1. Dober
            -1
            26 September 2013 14: 22
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            like beating a baby

            Ha baby ....
            I would not like to be in the evening in their "nursery group" somewhere in the village of containers.
            It's just the boys noticed a flea ... And they drive ...
            Nothing bad will happen. They will "endow" with podrachniki and "inculcate the idea" of the erroneous behavior of the shepherd in a big city ...
            At the same time, the level of physical. preparations are tightened.
            "ram", by the way too ... laughing
      2. smersh70
        0
        26 September 2013 14: 30
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        needed bearded and bigger


        and take off would manage ... laughing ..
        1. Ruslan_F38
          0
          26 September 2013 20: 58
          Quote: smersh70
          and take off would manage ...


          If this is a question, then of course they would. Well, if the statement, then you are certainly right. hi
  15. soldier's grandson
    +17
    26 September 2013 08: 24
    Wahhabis need to be liquidated no matter what nation it is, it is a nation of terrorists, and our authorities do not care about their business in their offices
    1. 0
      26 September 2013 21: 49
      Quote: Soldier's grandson
      Wahhabis need to be eliminated no matter what nation he is,


      Wahhabis lack the concept of nation!
  16. +2
    26 September 2013 08: 50
    Sergh (1)
    Who's stopping you from owning a weapon? ... I live and don't shake, sometimes shoot a duck at a duck.
    So, you don’t need to whine about this and weapons in the bakery department are also free to sell!

    Do you want to arm the people, so that people would shoot each other in the United States? The question of the dominance of Russia by all sorts of extremists who hate the Russians, eager to establish their own rules, to crush the Russians, should be resolved at the STATE level, and not by local squabbles, when they come "on the tail".
  17. +8
    26 September 2013 09: 02
    The government is anti-Russian. Tatars are also against such Muslims. We have been a united nation with the Tatars for a long time, and the point is not incest, but the same worldview. The authorities are jumping that the matter will come to bloodshed and no riot police will help. All together, as a single whole of one civilization, we will throw out the scruff of those who fill the cup of patience. Violence is not a feature of the peoples of Russia, but we can protect our home at a crucial moment.
    1. Dober
      +2
      26 September 2013 12: 25
      Quote: Sunjar
      Tatars are also against such Muslims.

      The most bloody clashes are interfaith.
      And begin with what, the leaders of the diasporas will be transferred precisely to this plane.
      Through the media or "persuaded" by the mullah of the local mosque.
      Are you sure that your "acquaintance" Tatar will stand up with you in the same system - go against your fellow believers, in fact?
      You do not know Muslims well. Many, especially from the younger generation, who "came" to religion relatively recently, have never even heard of the phrases given in your commentary ...
      1. +3
        26 September 2013 12: 36
        Quote: Dober
        The most bloody clashes are interfaith.
        And begin with what, the leaders of the diasporas will be transferred precisely to this plane.

        That is why it is necessary to repel dishonesty now.
        Without waiting for the time, they are turning the Russian Muslims into Wahhabism.
        Without waiting for the numerical superiority of visitors and visitors to be created.
        Without waiting for what the radical Islamists are waiting for.
        Or do you really think that interfaith clashes are not their goal?
        And they come only to teach Russian Muslims the correct interpretation of the Koran?
        1. Dober
          0
          26 September 2013 14: 16
          Quote: Flood
          interfaith clashes are not their purpose?

          Not really ... clashes like the WAY of achievement. And the goal is simple - the struggle for resources. More precisely, the territories are rich in resources for the horde progressing in the number of holo * vooy. Sown areas or places for grazing sheep are also a resource.
          And this is at least. If we discard the conspiracy thesis.
          Quote: Flood
          to teach Russian Muslims the correct interpretation of the Koran?

          YES! From their point of view. It is enough to trace the funding channels for literature, for "seminars" in BV and other mutu ...
          1. -2
            26 September 2013 15: 03
            You contradict yourself.
            First write that their goal is resources.
            Then their preaching goal.
            Decide, then we’ll talk.
            1. Dober
              +2
              26 September 2013 15: 18
              With his "IMHO" has long been determined. Follow the logical chain.
              1. The goal is resources. An example of Iraq, Syria ...
              2. The method of achievement is interethnic conflict. An example of Kosovo.
              3. Tool - pre-Islamization. An example of Libya.
              The rest is adjustable parts.

              Do you want to talk, no - so I don’t impose my communication hi
      2. +4
        26 September 2013 12: 43
        Quote: Dober
        Tatar will stand with you one system-will go against co-religionists, in fact?


        Yes ... Soviet internationalism was stronger than the so-called faith. And Afghanistan is an example of this, starting with the "Masulman battalion".
        1. Dober
          +2
          26 September 2013 14: 07
          Quote: Understudy
          Soviet internationalism was

          It was a derivative of propagandized ATHEISM! Imbued and united at the same time. What was - was. Admittedly, it was the only thing necessary under the imperial expansion policy.
          Now the so-called. "internationalism" is exactly the opposite. An example of europium.
          And with total "internationalism" (multiculturalism) it leads to catastrophic changes in traditional cultures. The weakening of all state-forming nations, the erosion of their mentality, and as a result (and more often at the suggestion of some) the destruction of the "indigenous" religion.
          Hence the fall of morals. Strengthening sodomy, etc ...
          Quote: Understudy
          example starting with the "Masulman battalion"

          I do not know the details, but I am sure they followed the "October scenario". When the same "progressive" atheism was instilled among those who had not been doing very well before.
          Simply put, "a farmhand for a fist."
          Also "mercantile interest" is not excluded. If some of your fellow tribesmen are fighting for the Dollyars, then why don't you fight for Soviet rubles. Or other "gingerbread". To a greater extent refers to the "field commanders" (otherwise - the former "offended" by the previous government "and having before that a little more than" an old turban and frayed trousers ") ...
        2. Marek Rozny
          +5
          26 September 2013 17: 33
          Quote: Understudy
          And Afghanistan is an example of this, starting with the "Masulman battalion".

          not all yogurts are equally healthy. originally a Muslim battalion was created from among the Uzbeks and Tajiks. however, it turned out that they did not burn much to fight with Afghan relatives. moreover, Tajiks and Uzbeks are traditionally quite religious people.
          therefore, the second Muslim battalion was created from "steppe inhabitants" - mainly from Kazakhs. Kazakhs (like other peoples of the steppe origin) usually do not bother with religion. and they did not see relatives in Afghan residents, and therefore they crumbled the Mujahideen without pity.
          Today, the overwhelming majority of Kazakhs have a negative attitude towards the bearded Wahhabbit, and after a series of terrorist attacks, Kazakhstanis are generally extremely harsh and suspicious of "ultra-religious". Since the Volga Tatars are made of almost the same dough as the Kazakhs, I think that the Tatars will not in the least hesitate to fight these Wahabbits / Salafis.
          The steppe inhabitants are evenly related to all religions; historically this has happened in our country. Those who insulted the faith of others, to their own Bosko demolished. But Wahhabism is not faith, it is an aggressive ideology. So, traditional Turkic tolerance does not extend to Wahhabism.
          Wahabbit’s desire is to force another person into the soul. What kind of faith is that? What religion is this? This is pure aggression.
          There is such a Kazakh characteristic parable. In short, the meaning is this: the mullah noticed that on the banks of the steppe rivulet a little boy somersaults. The boy explained to the mullah that he prays to Allah. Mullah scolded him severely, and explained how to pray. The next day, the mullah again notices the boy on the banks of the river. The boy, noticing the mullah, runs across the river as if by land, without soaking his feet. Runs up to a dumbfounded mullah and says guiltily:
          - Ata, I was inattentive yesterday and did not remember how to read the prayer. Please tell us again.
          Mullah answered, stroking the child on the head:
          - As you wish, son, so pray.
  18. +10
    26 September 2013 09: 07
    We will not have a chance to save the Motherland if we continue to play at tolerance and internationalism. Tajiks and others do not care deeply about the beautiful slogans about tolerance. They perceive it as our weakness. The people need to unite in popular squads, pull representatives of law enforcement agencies to themselves, instantly and harshly react to the violation of the guests' way of life. Put an end to the statement, either as it is accepted by the US, or not at all. It is surprising why the Russian government forgot how Russians were squeezed out of the republics of Central Asia. "Suitcase, station, Russia", " Russian Ivan pack your suitcase, this is not Russia-Tajikistan "And we will forget this and forgive it ????? Stop pushing the button, it's time to get together. If the government is blind, and we just want to survive and preserve what is dear to us, then this is the only way out.
    1. +5
      26 September 2013 11: 50
      I absolutely agree with you. Weakness and our tolerance is perceived by our "guests" only as weakness, and they do not stand on ceremony with the weak in the East, especially with infidels ... I know this from my own experience.
  19. Grigorich 1962
    +6
    26 September 2013 10: 25
    The Russian people are actually divorced from power and decision-making ... as well as some kind of influence on these decisions .... what kind of civic chamber is there .... you need to revive the referendum system on pressing issues and make the results a decisive legislative factor ... ..
  20. +6
    26 September 2013 10: 40
    Islamic scholar Farid Salman said that in Russia 90% of imams are Wahhabis.
    I will ask rhetorically, but the analysts from the "office" do not know this?
    I think in the near future it is necessary to wait for a creative union of the "bogs" and the bearded (they themselves will not guess, they will persistently prompt from across the ocean), and then, on Vasily, it is necessary to prepare a site for another dome ...
    1. +7
      26 September 2013 11: 45
      Quote: Chen
      we must wait for the creative union of "bogs" and bearded


      Well, they waited ... Where so swampy to pro-government. What a creative thought
      What was not accused of "swamp", but this has not happened yet.
      Tell me, Sergei, are the "swamp" people to blame for the flooding in the Far East?

      For your information, there were not a single Tajik or Caucasian among the protesters at either Bolotnaya or Sakharov. NO ONE!
      But in the cordon, along with cops and soldiers of the Internal Troops, there were young Caucasians with bandages of vigilantes. Exactly the same lengthy and unshaven Caucasians who fired from trauma and shout "Allah Akbar" on the streets of both capitals. Only red moccasins were missing.
      You do not need to "wait" for the creative union of the marsh and the bearded, since the bearded have already concluded a strong alliance with the authorities.
      And there are a lot of certificates. And do not blame from a sore head for a healthy one.
      The bogs have a lot of sins, but the bearded is a creature of power, this is the policy of AUTHORITY
      1. +2
        26 September 2013 13: 07
        I, Vladimir, not a blinkered pro-Kremlin, as you probably thought. Moreover, the “rank and file” of the bogies bore quite fair demands on the authorities.
        But I do not think that power is somehow connected with Islamic radicalism. This seems to me to be beyond the limits.
        On the other hand, the vanguard of the Bolotniks and growing and metastasis has grown not only in the Caucasus, but throughout Russia, radicalism can well join hands. Wahhabis do not care with whom to be friends against us, and those who do not guess, there is someone to tell.
      2. +1
        26 September 2013 14: 44
        Quote: Normal
        What was not accused of "swamp", but this has not happened yet.

        And Udaltsov didn’t meet with some kind of radical organization in Kazan. After declaring after that that any allies are good for us, if only against Putin.
        Do not blame everything on Putin. Where are the local bureaucrats, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB. How to drink, writes beautiful reports to Moscow ...
        For the tighter amnesty for illegal immigrants, there are enough representatives of a liberal sense, however, as well as from the authorities.
        1. +2
          26 September 2013 15: 21
          Why are you minus a person? He said the truth, Udaltsov offered the Tatar separatists to oppose Putin together. And what did he promise them for this? I hope you understand too? If not, then I will tell you -independence from Rossii.Udaltsov -bog? Definitely swamp. For me this is enough not to respect these arrogant and arrogant re-educated hamsters. And I will add, everything that has the word "liberal" in its composition smells bad.
  21. DuraLexSedLex.
    +1
    26 September 2013 10: 48
    This is the PPC that struck me as "their Islam is different, not ours," that is, are they Salafis and radicals?
    1. P-15
      +8
      26 September 2013 11: 36
      If you see a man with a beard like in the photo and with short pants, you can confidently say that he is a Wahhabi, I’ve seen enough of them, believe me. These freaks aren’t different from Islam, they have all the brains in their heads 24 hours.
      If people do not celebrate the birthdays of their children (God bless him with his DR), do not celebrate traditional holidays (NG, March 8, etc.) and do not go to weddings and celebrations to normal people if people consciously refuse to watch TV. These are which pervert both Islam and the Qur'an. Inhumans in general. Normal people cannot have such thinking. Russia must sift through a rigid sieve all migrants from the Central Asian and South Caucasian republics.
      1. +8
        26 September 2013 12: 37
        you are right, these are not normal people. they are not people at all.

        I would compare this to body cancer. there are normal cells, and there are cancer-affected ones and there are more of them all the time if you don’t cut them on time and poison them with chemicals. they cannot be cured otherwise.
        1. P-15
          +6
          26 September 2013 13: 31
          I agree with you, only radical measures. It’s like gangrene — it didn’t cut off a finger in time, you can lose a brush, etc.
      2. 0
        26 September 2013 14: 27
        Quote: P-15
        If you see a person with such a beard as in the photo and with short pants,


        ... maybe so - tucked in trousers ... without socks ... underwear
        1. P-15
          +1
          26 September 2013 15: 04
          ))) it is possible so, though I don’t know about underwear, I didn’t look under their clothes.
          1. +1
            27 September 2013 00: 12
            Wahhabis do not wear cowards. According to their concepts, what appeared after the prophet, including this item of clothing, is a sin. In the North Caucasus, during the CTO regime, they are forced to take off their pants at suspicious Indians-cowards at the checkpoints, go home, no inquiry.
  22. DuraLexSedLex.
    +2
    26 September 2013 10: 51
    Although what WE can do, not the government, but WE-THE PEOPLE ?! Well, what can we do? Pogroms? So who will agree, they will be imprisoned, and not a current on 282. I am silent about ethnic cleansing, this is not "humane", not "tolerant" and not legal.
    1. 0
      26 September 2013 18: 22
      When there will be a thousand on the pogroms, they will plant. If there is a million, two will not. They will begin to agree, make concessions. I advise you to forget the words humanely, tolerantly. They specially invented them to ruin countries like ours.
      1. DuraLexSedLex.
        0
        27 September 2013 13: 40
        Well, I didn’t take quotes around for nothing.
  23. +3
    26 September 2013 11: 21
    <<< It is obvious that even if the Tatar population notes that Islam among the newcomers is non-traditional for Russia, then is it worth then allowing the compact residence of its carriers? It is not clear what the secular authorities are guided by both at the level of the Rybno-Slobodsky district and at the level of Tatarstan, if they allow the settlement of villages by people who studied or fought somewhere in the Greater Middle East. >>>
    Money, money and money again decides EVERYTHING and opens all doors for these Islamic colonists! Where did the poor Tajiks get the money? From Saudi Arabia - the wasp's nest of Wahhabism, which has been actively spreading throughout the world in recent years with the support of the West! Radical Islamism, which is Wahhabism, is a tool with which Western globalizers carry out their plans to redivide the world, which include the main task - the destruction of Russia - the main obstacle on their way to world hegemony. Undoubtedly, the stake is being placed on the liberals and the Russian corrupt bureaucracy, ready for money to accept Islamic colonists and create conditions for them to "develop" the Russian lands! It is not clear only WHERE are our security agencies looking? After all, you do not need to finish any "academies" in order to understand where this policy of the authorities towards migrants leads! Kandapoga may turn out to be flowers, compared to what awaits us in the future, if we do not urgently stop this process and deal with those who, out of bewilderment or deliberately, contributed to the appearance on our land of foreigners who are clearly alien and hostile to Russia! It would be interesting for local journalists to conduct their own investigation - who and how promotes the colonization of Russian lands by such colonists, while compatriots often cannot get the right to return to their historical homeland for years!
  24. Muxauk
    +5
    26 September 2013 11: 24
    it’s not even the Tajiks, it’s more radicalism. 2 sons from this bearded man learn to be companions, he watched a video to arrange about 25% of the population in Syria, so they come and the infrastructure will be destroyed. here the gun doesn’t help either, they walk in droves, and next door, I am from Chuvashia, to Kazan 2 hours drive. if this continues, I’ll teach my dog ​​specifically defense, above the norm, so that I could break it. we never had in Cheboksary that women would go in a burqa. already seen such a miracle. the authorities really don’t understand that we will not fit in the same country soon
    1. 0
      26 September 2013 14: 36
      Quote: MuxaHuk
      the authorities really don’t understand that we will not fit in the same country soon


      ... and that they are the people of the country ... they all have personal enrichment in the first place and they have nothing to do with the true situation in the country. Most have housing abroad, where dumped if that.
  25. +5
    26 September 2013 11: 34
    Until serious pogroms begin - "St. Bartholomew's Nights", the government does not sniff, and riots, robberies and pogroms will surely begin, but it is not known from which side ...
  26. dc120mm
    +5
    26 September 2013 11: 36
    These "radicals" have already unbelted themselves all over the place, everywhere they are watered like mad dogs !!!
    1. +3
      26 September 2013 13: 16
      Quote: dc120mm
      These "radicals" have already unbelted themselves all over the place, everywhere they are watered like mad dogs !!!

      I was in Georgia in the summer.
      I was told that the bishop of Batumi and Shalt Dimitri, the bishop of the Georgian Orthodox Church, has baptized about a thousand Adjarian Georgians in recent years.
      This is nice !!!!
      I haven’t seen such a thing !!!
      1. dc120mm
        +4
        26 September 2013 13: 48
        Quote: Chen
        I was in Georgia in the summer.

        I would say my wine is chic!

        Quote: Chen
        I was told that the bishop of Batumi and Shalt Dimitri, the bishop of the Georgian Orthodox Church, has baptized about a thousand Adjarian Georgians in recent years.

        It’s true that in Adzharia every year young people cross in thousands.
        1. Marek Rozny
          +1
          26 September 2013 19: 23
          Quote: dc120mm
          I would say my wine is chic!

          The owner of a Georgian restaurant in Astana offered me a jug of grape wine, which he himself grows in his homeland. I tried it - a delicious aromatic pleasant compote. I practically didn’t feel alcohol ... And I didn’t notice how it flew away))) Specifically, I got drunk))) Even I didn’t get bogged down by vodka))) You insidious wine))) But very tasty!
  27. de bouillon
    +8
    26 September 2013 11: 36
    Quote: Povshnik
    Quote: vadimus
    But who in general lets this evil to us? I understand more in the mines to prescribe them, but to let them into peaceful life .... It does not fit in my head !!!!

    More important for Putin is the 201st base in Tajikistan, which does not solve anything there, except for the support of Rakhmon, and migrants, in millions and tons of drugs, are coming to us. He is closer to the oligarchs who need cheap labor, and not the people, so the issue will not be solved with migrants until 2017, and they will think there.



    this question excites me too.

    in Tajikistan we have a military base and the border guards have remained since the 91st, BUT THE DRUG ALWAYS WENT AND GOES THROUGH !!

    there are no Russian soldiers in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan! And for some reason, these two states never became a transit corridor for the supply of heroin hi In my opinion, it’s time to spend the 201th year at the headquarters of the 37st base.
    1. 0
      26 September 2013 14: 47
      Quote: de Bouillon
      In my opinion, it’s time to spend the 201th year at the headquarters of the 37st base.

      201 base, has nothing to do with drug control, But our border guards have long been ousted.
  28. +4
    26 September 2013 12: 38
    Quote: Arberes
    Again, all hope for Vladimir Putin?


    But does he really know nothing?
    1. -1
      26 September 2013 15: 09
      Quote: Understudy
      But does he really know nothing?

      For starters, they entered the country on passports from 2015. Already some kind of control will be. Although not enough decisions of course ...
      1. New Russia
        -1
        26 September 2013 15: 49
        You didn’t finish, according to Putin, we will give them these passports at our own expense. This is shame and betrayal
  29. +4
    26 September 2013 12: 39
    Who lets them go? Yes, the power and lets. Crying about Syria and others like her, inside the country she is gradually preparing controlled chaos. In case of urgent need, she simply pushes us with her foreheads, otherwise she would have crushed various sectarian and extremist movements in the bud. Ours do not differ from Americans at all, only in those chaos and aggression are directed at foreign nations, while for internal use. They know that they have robbed the country and are trying to cover the railway station in any way.
  30. 0
    26 September 2013 12: 39
    Who lets them go? Yes, the power and lets. Crying about Syria and others like her, inside the country she is gradually preparing controlled chaos. In case of urgent need, she simply pushes us with her foreheads, otherwise she would have crushed various sectarian and extremist movements in the bud. Ours do not differ from Americans at all, only in those chaos and aggression are directed at foreign nations, while for internal use. They know that they have robbed the country and are trying to cover the railway station in any way.
  31. New Russia
    +2
    26 September 2013 12: 46
    "To the question" How do you live? " she replied: "I am scared to say this, but it would be better if they lived in their homeland. And we would be calm from this" "This is sad. She's scared to talk!) This is what the power brainwashing brought about "multinationality" What a shame, instead of saying let them go to hell, she's scared to talk!)
  32. Krymgireevsky
    +7
    26 September 2013 12: 59
    The other day I arrived on business in a small village near Samara - Krasny Yar. In 1,5 hours he came in a very thoughtful state of mind. On the streets, men of Caucasian and Asian appearance 20-40 years old with characteristic beards without a mustache are striking. Very often, cars with young guys drove past, and from the windows of the cars, recordings of speeches in Arabic (apparently sermons) were heard very loudly, generously interspersed with shouts of "Allah Akbar (Allah is great)", "Tahrir (liberation)". Sometimes met glances with these people and ... Have you ever been in a situation where a person is very hostile towards you, but due to circumstances he has to restrain his impulses, but his gaze says what he would like to do to you? When you read about "quiet intervention" and other conspiracy theories on the Internet - this is one thing, but when you see it with your own eyes in real life - it is, to put it mildly, annoying. There is a real feeling that things are proceeding according to the Kosovo scenario mentioned here: various regions of the country are systematically inhabited by "their own" and it is not difficult to imagine how this will turn out in different scenarios. On the other hand. Or maybe everything is not so scary? People come from their disadvantaged countries, work, adhere to their religion. A few years ago, I decided for myself to figure this out. I do not think it is right to simply rely on the conclusions of authorities and experts in what I can find out for myself. He simply went to the largest local mosque and asked the mule several questions about Islam, Wahhabism, etc. The definition of jihad in traditional Islam turned out to be very interesting. This, it turns out, is not a fight against infidels (like the Wahhabis), but a fight against unbelief. One word has been changed, but the meaning is absolutely changing! I will not give here all my understandings regarding traditional Islam and its differences from its perverted currents - this is not the topic, but in short: in its goals and means of achieving them, Islam is not very different from other traditional religions. Let's go further: at the expense of the dysfunctional life and work. Very few of us can remember migrants working as engineers, doctors, teachers, lawyers. But what do the rest do, what do they live on? Using the same method - direct communication, observation and analysis, we can come to unpleasant conclusions: most migrants are involved in semi-criminal and openly criminal activities - from tax evasion to drug trafficking, etc. Sometimes in personal communication I mentioned that my father was from Dagestan (from the Cossacks, but I didn’t talk about this), and my mother was born in Ukraine. And then it began: so you are ours! then listen! And I had to listen to bitter confessions about the difficult fate of a "non-Russian" in Russia. I will go straight to the conclusions. Most of those with whom I spoke, 60-70%, relate to Russia and its population ... generally contemptuous, not respected, but "forced" to live here. And, yes, some of them said that on occasion they would show the Russians their place. I believe that there are very few reasonable reasons for such an attitude towards us in the present, but one of them outweighs everything - too many of us have little respect for ourselves and, accordingly, our environment, are not very proud of what they do in life. This is noticeable and it sets the tone for our guests and neighbors to relate to us. But this, I repeat and emphasize, is not a reason to consider us indiscriminately ... Well, who is it profitable to expose us to someone who has a stone in his bosom!
    1. Ruslan_F38
      0
      26 September 2013 14: 16
      Quote: Krymgireevsky
      But this, I repeat and emphasize, is not a reason to consider us indiscriminately ... well, who is it profitable to expose to someone who has a stone in his bosom! And if the state eliminates itself from solving these problems, then sooner or later this abscess will burst so that it doesn’t seem enough!

      Plus Ilya and your rating is the same plus. I agree with your observations and conclusions. The authorities have withdrawn. But deliberately removed or not - that’s the question.
  33. New Russia
    +4
    26 September 2013 13: 08
    1. Russia lacks about 50-70 million migrants, said G. Safaraliev, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Nationalities, (a member of the United Russia faction). Funny, isn't it?

    2. In the State Duma of the Russian Federation, on 13.11.2012, the first reading of the bill of senators IM Umakhanov, VM Dzhabarov and VA Fetisov on amendments to the Federal Law "On Citizenship of the Russian Federation" on the establishment of a simplified procedure for admission to Russian citizenship (without observing the conditions on the period of residence in the territory of the Russian Federation, on obtaining a residence permit in the Russian Federation, on the presence of a legal source of livelihood and on the knowledge of the Russian language at a certain required level) for all citizens of the former USSR and all their descendants On the basis of this bill, citizenship will simply be given to everyone. Not so funny anymore?

    Card of the bill in the State Duma: http: //asozd2.duma.gov.ru/main.nsf/ (SpravkaNew)? OpenAgent & RN = 139669-6 & 02

    3. The bill was supported by the head of the committee on constitutional law and state building V.N. Pligin (Member of the General Council of EP):

    23.10.2012 The Committee on Constitutional Legislation and State Building of the State Duma issued a positive opinion on draft federal law No. 139669-5 “On Amending the Federal Law“ On Citizenship of the Russian Federation ”, introduced by members of the Council of the Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation I.M. WITH. Umakhanov, V.M.Dzhabarov, V.A. Fetisov, and recommended that the State Duma adopt this bill in the first reading.

    The bill is supported by the Legal Department of the State Duma and the State Duma Committee on Nationalities

    Somehow not funny already, right?
    1. +2
      26 September 2013 13: 52
      Pancake! yes finally it’s not funny!
    2. Ruslan_F38
      0
      26 September 2013 14: 22
      Quote: New Russia
      1. Russia lacks about 50-70 million migrants, said G. Safaraliev, chairman of the State Duma Committee on Nationalities, (a member of the United Russia faction). Funny, isn't it?



      Kenneth Chachran is an interesting name, but where are you from if not a secret? What do you propose to do with this?
      1. New Russia
        +1
        26 September 2013 15: 54
        Not a real name. And if in addition to the ridiculous accusations of working for the State Department, Putin has already lost nothing) Although he is, he has nothing to say. There is nothing to offer, Close the borders and stop this nonsense that we need migrants, Putin needs them, because obedient and weak-willed and oligarchs because they work for a penny, not one of the peoples of Russia needs them
        1. Ruslan_F38
          +1
          26 September 2013 16: 06
          Quote: New Russia
          And if you are in addition to ridiculous accusations of working for the State Department

          Accusations? And what is the reason? Yes, I don’t care who you work for - I just asked what country, city you are from.

          Close the borders and stop this nonsense that we need migrants, Putin needs them, because obedient and weak-willed and oligarchs because they work for a penny, none of the peoples of Russia need them

          Close borders - I agree. As for the obedient and weak-willed - strongly disagree! Do they need Putin? Yes, hell knows. But the oligarchs just do not need, except perhaps underground.
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          2. New Russia
            0
            26 September 2013 17: 34
            I am from Russia, from Adygea. Putin really needs them, they will vote for him and they won’t fight for their rights
    3. +2
      26 September 2013 14: 56
      Quote: New Russia
      3. The bill was supported by the head of the committee on constitutional law and state building V.N. Pligin (Member of the General Council of EP):

      V.N. Pligin will soon be a year, if not a deputy.

      In the Duma, in addition, two bills from the FMS, one seems to have passed 1 reading, all for tightening the migration policy.
      I don’t remember exactly what, but I know that they want to increase the time for organizing illegal migration to 10 years, from the current 2.
  34. +2
    26 September 2013 13: 22
    Quote: Dober
    Quote: Sunjar
    Tatars are also against such Muslims.

    The most bloody clashes are interfaith.
    And begin with what, the leaders of the diasporas will be transferred precisely to this plane.
    Through the media or "persuaded" by the mullah of the local mosque.
    Are you sure that your "acquaintance" Tatar will stand up with you in the same system - go against your fellow believers, in fact?
    You do not know Muslims well. Many, especially from the younger generation, who "came" to religion relatively recently, have never even heard of the phrases given in your commentary ...



    In Tatarstan, the overwhelming majority of young people laid on religion in general. Secular education is due to the presence of many universities, and the same incest, well, so as not to soar with the choice.
    Yes, almost everyone reads nicknames, but this is a fashion. Just as with Orthodoxy, in fact, from the beginning of the 90s, everyone became religious. True believers are few, and radicals are not visible at all.
    So I don’t think that the question will be whether to stand in one row or not, friendship and honor have not gone away.
  35. +3
    26 September 2013 13: 24
    And such immigrants are beneficial to local princes. In our area, Chechens and Dagis live on farms. Personally, I have no complaints about them yet. But at the next election of the head of the district in the current district center, the head was rolled (in two or three elections in a row), and due to the votes in the farms, this one is in power again. Apparently, under the conditions of a settlement permit, activity for voting FOR was agreed. IMHO.
  36. simpleton
    +1
    26 September 2013 13: 48
    Big greetings from MEDVEPUT, that's all the riddles. He protects us from the drug mafia by the fact that he brings all this abomination to us, in exchange for a military base in Tajikistan. The principle is simple: for us, they say, it is more important to protect Syria, Tajikistan, and therefore you Russians from any mujahideen, and you are ungrateful and stupid fellow citizens, since you do not understand all this. And besides, how to build a new empire and become the main king in it? Now you will be patient, but maybe someday we will tell you about tolerance and other heresies, and you will understand everything. Now your feelings, comrades Russians, are not important, but Syria is yes. There it smells of all sorts of articles in magazines, and maybe some kind of prize will be given "Everything repeats itself - if at home you are not capable of anything, you have to work abroad." And this is simply a betrayal of their country, which some people love to tears in the photos in magazines and very "selflessly" prays at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem and other places and talk about the unity of nations in Russia and much more. And then, why do they need your worries - the less you know, the better you sleep.
  37. 0
    26 September 2013 14: 01
    At the beginning of the article write: - In the FSB ... and the application is ready!
    Either the authorities do not calculate the situation, or they calculate the loot.
  38. +1
    26 September 2013 14: 02
    Even nothing to add, everything has been said!
    Our liberals are pursuing a policy that can destroy our country together with all of us, they do not care what happens to us and our children, they are ready to plunge the country into bloody chaos!
    If you don’t stop this neglect now, then the whole end of Russia !!!
  39. 0
    26 September 2013 14: 19
    The word "Homeland" has become just a sound for Tajiks and Uzbeks.
  40. +1
    26 September 2013 14: 34
    Yes, it seems to be a policy of the authorities. With the aggressiveness of radical Islamism, one can forget about a strong Russia, an example of Syria. In such a situation, until the borders are closed, the question will arise about survival within Russia. As far as I know, only the Zionists who cares about Christianity, Islam, LGBT, etc., wouldn’t be strong.
  41. 0
    26 September 2013 14: 50
    - Worms must be deduced ... Definitely!
  42. 0
    26 September 2013 18: 38
    My heart hurts already from all this, but my hands "itch" ...
  43. -2
    27 September 2013 19: 51
    "Russia - for Russians and in Russian"
    Alexander III, Emperor.
    2. "Nationalism in me is so natural that no internationalists can ever erase it from me."
    Mendeleev D.I., Russian chemist.
    3. “I am ready to write on my banner - Russia for Russians and in Russian, and raise this banner as high as possible”
    Skobelev M. D., Russian general, hero of the Russian-Turkish war.
    4. “We are called to create our own and in our own way, Russian in Russian”
    Ilyin I.A., Russian philosopher.
    5. “We are Russian and therefore will win”
    Suvorov A.V., the great Russian commander.
    6. “A nation that does not have a national identity is manure on which other nations grow”
    Stolypin P.A., statesman.
    7. “The master of Russia is only one Russian, so it is and always should be”
    Dostoevsky F.M., Russian writer.
    8. “The greatness, power and wealth of the whole state consists in the preservation and propagation of the Russian people”
    Lomonosov M.V., Russian natural scientist.

    9. "Anyone who says" Russia for the Russians "is simply or provocateurs."
    V.V. Putin