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“Feeling” of the Russian Arctic

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In the administrative center of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District - in the 47-thousandth of Salekhard - the next (third in a row) International Arctic Forum is open. Its name is "The Arctic - the territory of dialogue". The forum is held under the auspices of the Russian Geographical Society (RGO), and is very representative. This time more than five hundred participants from various Russian regions, as well as from foreign countries arrived at Salekhard. Among the foreign guests are leaders of several states and international organizations: Olalavyur Ragnar Grimsson - the head of Iceland, Sauli Niinistö - President of Finland, high-ranking officials from the Arctic Council, including Patrick Borby.


The forum’s meeting was attended by Russian President Vladimir Putin and the head of the Ministry of Defense (concurrently the President of the Russian Geographical Society) Sergei Shoigu.

The main circle of topics discussed at the forum included: environmental safety issues in the Arctic region, geological exploration, intensification of work on the study of climate change. Particular attention was paid to the need to find a balance between interests in the development of huge mineral reserves in the Arctic and the preservation of the flora and fauna of the region.

The III International Arctic Forum is taking place far from a cloudless background. Two, let's say, events contribute to a certain dissonance in its holding:

the first is an attempt by Greenpeace activists to land on the Prirazlomnaya drilling platform, the second is protracted military exercises of air fleets and ground support units of the United States, Great Britain, Norway, Finland and Sweden. It is noteworthy that Finnish Lapland was chosen as the main base for the exercise, in close proximity to the borders with Russia.

“Feeling” of the Russian Arctic


If the actual simultaneity of all the listed events is a coincidence, then the coincidence is simply unique. By the way, Vladimir Putin was asked to comment on the events related to the arrest of the crew of the icebreaker “Arctic Sunrise” by Russian border guards, using special equipment, to seriously and permanently settle on the Russian drilling platform in order to stop hydrocarbon production.

Putin replied that he did not know the details, but he is not ready to call Greenpeace activists pirates. According to Putin, the Russian border guards still acted within the framework of the law, and, delaying the crew of the "green icebreaker" that violates international norms, quote:
did not know who was trying to seize the platform under the guise of Greenpeace. Especially against the background of the bloody events that took place in Kenya, anything could have happened.


The Russian president noted that if Greenpeace activists really wanted to indicate the presence of environmental problems at Prirazlomnaya, then no one prevented them from identifying these very problems during the International Forum held in Salekhard:
I want to stress once again that we are determined to work with all our partners, with all environmental organizations. But we presume that this work will be built in a civilized way.


Recall that the detention and dispatch of Greenpeace activists to Murmansk (followed by "placement" in local SIZOs) took place after the motor boats were launched from the Arctic Sunrise icebreaker, attempting to deliver a certain capsule of long-term autonomous residence to the drilling platform. In this capsule, activists were supposed to be accommodated on the rig and prevent oil extraction on the shelf of the Russian Federation. The platform staff, whose number, according to the latest data, is up to 200 people, tried to stop the “greens” climbing upward with the help of a water attack from the hoses. Two Greenpeace members were washed into the water, from where they were taken aboard by Russian border guards. Next is the “sunny” Murmansk, the accusation of piracy and violation of international shipping regulations, the SIZO ...

It is noteworthy that Greenpeace is not the first time trying to attack the Russian drilling platform. The first attack took place about a year ago. Then there were the same attempts to get on the "Prirazlomnaya", the same hoses, but in the end everything went without a detention center. This time, Greenpeace was decided not to give another chance, and they did everything under international law - they took the offenders as a “soft spot” so that, as they say, it was disreputable. How much will be "not guided" - time will tell.

And why did Greenpeace attract Prirazlomnaya? It turns out that the “green” accountants decided that oil production in these latitudes was unprofitable, and that drilling should be stopped. What, however, is the organization that cares about the profitability of Russian projects? At first, he considers other people's money, and only then suddenly he remembers that he needs to keep his brand - and declares a possible environmental threat. An interesting train of thought and events.

In this regard, the question arises: why did Greenpeace decide to attract world attention exclusively to the Russian drilling platform, but did not react at all, for example, to the American-British-Norwegian-other military exercises in the Arctic, which dragged on for more than a whole decade? Do the “Arctic Challenge” exercises using eight dozen NATO planes and the so-called “neutral” states of Northern Europe (Sweden, for example) do not cause damage to the Arctic? Do the British Typhoons or American flying Arctic Fox or Polar Bear tankers scare away? ..

And for whom, in general, did the “allies” decide to declare their “Arctic Challenge”, conducting combat training operations in close proximity to the exclusive economic zone of Russia? The question is rhetorical. At the same time, the same Swedes, who position themselves as adherents of neutrality, declare that the exercises are in no way connected with the demonstration of military power in relation to Russia: they say, we decided to lift eight dozen military airplanes to the air in order to look at the bird markets from above or lemmings with JAS-39 to take pictures.

If we touch the goal of the “Arctic Challenge” exercises, then officially they look like this:

promotion of military cooperation between Finland and the Scandinavian countries in the framework of NORDEFCO (defense cooperation of the northern countries);

training military units to conduct operations aimed at stabilizing the region and attention! - peace enforcement.


Well, military cooperation is their business, let them cooperate with whom the soul asks. But here "stabilization" and "peace enforcement" is already interesting. Since when did the stability in the Arctic break down, and who needs to be appeased? Well, not Greenpeace icebreakers and lifeboats ... By the way, why not assume that the same “Arctic Sunrise” was also a participant in the exercise - in the order of not far-reaching ideas ... Let's just say it, feeling the situation, and this probing for “Arctic Sunrise” turned out painful.

It turns out that while in Salekhard they were preparing to carry out the “Arctic - the territory of dialogue”, somewhere “in the wild, wild West” they pondered the “Arctic Challenge” - one of the most large-scale exercises under the auspices of the United States this year. Some are trying to conduct an international Arctic dialogue, while others are more accustomed to monologues and challenges. With just the names of events, it is already possible to draw a definite conclusion about the geopolitical strategy of various states.
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  1. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 26 September 2013 07: 18 New
    48
    The Arctic is becoming a hot region. If the fleet is to fight, it is there. "Kuznetsov" in its place!
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 26 September 2013 07: 49 New
      89
      But seriously - you need to press the paid Greenpeace office. negative
      1. Bykov.
        Bykov. 26 September 2013 07: 56 New
        81
        Quote: SHILO
        But seriously - you need to press the paid Greenpeace office.

        ... and first and foremost, confiscate as an instrument of crime, this is an icebreaker.
        Let them work hard, for the good of the motherland, like a trophy.
        1. true love
          true love 26 September 2013 09: 56 New
          19
          This is the best offer!
        2. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 26 September 2013 11: 35 New
          27
          Pancake! Torn off the tongue! +
          And not only the icebreaker., But the whole boat fleet. And the Greenpeace themselves to send to the logging - there, too, environmental problems must be solved! am
          1. Konstantm
            Konstantm 26 September 2013 15: 41 New
            +6
            Quote: Black Colonel
            And the Greenpeace themselves to send to the logging

            In their hands on a jigsaw. And for every broken file add a year.
            1. DAEDALUS
              DAEDALUS 26 September 2013 20: 42 New
              +2
              Then they will stay there for 3 life, for obvious reasons! wink
        3. andrejwz
          andrejwz 26 September 2013 11: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: Bulls.
          ... and first and foremost, confiscate as an instrument of crime, this is an icebreaker.

          Leave them only buckets with capsules.
        4. Bersaglieri
          Bersaglieri 27 September 2013 00: 03 New
          +1
          Ahead :)
      2. slacker
        slacker 26 September 2013 08: 31 New
        45
        The algorithm of actions in relation to Greenpeace should be as follows: "I jumped on an oil platform - I automatically sat on a bunk ... in an ecologically clean area."
        1. Jin
          Jin 26 September 2013 10: 54 New
          10
          Quote: Loafer
          "Jumped onto an oil platform - automatically sat on a bunk ... in an ecologically clean area"


          + And then the faces in the photo are very happy ...

          I don’t understand something ??? The word "y * kind" is that mat ??? Why the filter does not pass it? Comrades, moderators, let's not be driven already! So to paranoia one small step, I have no insults, just everything is good in moderation.

          1. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 26 September 2013 16: 24 New
            +9
            Quote: Jin
            I don’t understand something ??? The word "y * kind" is that mat ???


            Here censorship is automatic and very politically correct. You can’t be called a moron, you have to be mentally retarded, and in a * kind - a person who has unaesthetic physical disabilities ...
            1. Jin
              Jin 26 September 2013 18: 44 New
              +3
              Quote: Geisenberg
              Here censorship is automatic and very politically correct. You can’t be called a moron, you have to be mentally retarded, and in a * kind - a person who has unaesthetic physical disabilities ...


              + good I am aware of this, but people prescribe algorithms drinks
        2. T-130
          T-130 26 September 2013 11: 10 New
          +6
          Not just on bunks, but in the mine to produce environmentally friendly coal or uranium!
          1. vadson
            vadson 26 September 2013 21: 58 New
            +1
            environmentally friendly .... URANIUM? new
            1. Bersaglieri
              Bersaglieri 27 September 2013 00: 08 New
              +4
              NPP is the most environmentally friendly option of all power plants using non-renewable resources.
          2. Edward72
            Edward72 29 September 2013 15: 15 New
            0
            It’s better that u * odes do not appear in the world
        3. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 26 September 2013 11: 38 New
          +1
          In the same place, a local pre-trial detention center with a bullpen should be equipped so that the country's budget is not affected by all kinds of deliveries, courts, etc. And let lawyers visit their wards for their fees.
        4. Bersaglieri
          Bersaglieri 27 September 2013 00: 06 New
          +2
          During the time of the Russian Empire, political prisoners who had education and were serving hard labor, for example, in Sakhalin, were immediately released to a free settlement at the place of their imprisonment. To work at a weather station, or to teach at a local school, or paramedics ... Useful experience, it seems to me.
          There is a weather station on the ecologically clean Franz Josef Land, for example :)
        5. nov_tech.vrn
          nov_tech.vrn 1 October 2013 15: 50 New
          0
          There is a proposal to organize a labor and rest camp for them, on the south coast in their beloved Arctic.
      3. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 26 September 2013 08: 34 New
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        Quote: SHILO
        But seriously - you need to press the paid Greenpeace office.

        The fact that Greenpeace has long been plainly not engaged in its direct business - there is nothing new in nature conservation. Now they work out the money of sponsors and are an instrument of international politics.
        1. Stiletto
          Stiletto 26 September 2013 09: 17 New
          12
          Quote: Vladimirets
          The fact that Greenpeace has long been plainly not engaged in its direct business - there is nothing new in nature conservation. Now they work out the money of sponsors and are an instrument of international politics.


          Stopudovo so. And you need to treat them accordingly hard. After all, mind you, Greenpeace has no complaints about the monstrous oil spills in the Gulf of Mexico, but "Prirazlomnaya" for them suddenly "suddenly" turned out to be a concentration of evil and environmental disasters ... They care for "Benjamins", not for nature.
        2. Gari
          Gari 26 September 2013 10: 37 New
          23
          Quote: Vladimirets
          The fact that Greenpeace has long been plainly not engaged in its direct business - there is nothing new in nature conservation. Now they work out the money of sponsors and are an instrument of international politics.

          Here you are mistaken, dear, they are just doing their direct business, caring for the environment is not their main business, it is just a screen, a beautiful cover.
          They moved to the Arctic, attention, quote: "to tell the whole world." Just some kind of PR-studio, not environmentalists. By the way, this impression is not unfounded. There is proven evidence that Greenpeace often dramatizes the supposedly negative environmental impact of certain companies. They themselves set fire to a small area of ​​dead wood, they themselves extinguish it, and then expose it as a heroic fight against forest fires. Or they buy a barrel of fish, spread it with their belly to the top, and then distribute photos of "established environmental damage" over the network. In some countries (for example, in Canada and New Zealand) Greenpeace was generally forbidden to work, as these so-called ecologists were simply caught by the hoax: environmentalists killed animals themselves!
          The words of one of the founders of Greenpeace Paul Watson: “The secret of the success of this organization lies in the secret of the success of its creator: it does not matter what is truth, it is only important what people consider to be the truth. You are what the press portrayed you as "
          Greenpeace appears to be an excellent cover for intelligence and sabotage activities, to suppress impregnable competitors, to interfere in the internal affairs of sovereign states
          1. serjant4
            serjant4 26 September 2013 11: 40 New
            +1
            "Green Pie" will not lag behind :)
          2. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 26 September 2013 11: 43 New
            +1
            So, taking into account the experience of neighboring countries, you need to apply your know-how: to let a couple of these GPs (Greenpeace, something abusive) to edify their colleagues and followers on the water surface somewhere in the White or Barents Sea, so that it was not disgraceful.
          3. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 26 September 2013 12: 45 New
            +2
            Quote: Gari
            Here you are mistaken, dear, they are just doing their direct business, caring for the environment is not their main business, it is just a screen, a beautiful cover.

            I meant the signboard declared for the masses, and you wrote in more detail. good
          4. aksakal
            aksakal 26 September 2013 23: 16 New
            +2
            Quote: Gari
            Greenpeace appears to be an excellent cover for intelligence and sabotage activities, to suppress impregnable competitors, to interfere in the internal affairs of sovereign states

            - Remember the Soviet Poultry Plant? The one that let out albeit a little blue, but damn tasty and natural chickens for ruble sixty? This Poultry was the first target of an attack by Greenpeace. The naive Soviet people did not know then and took everything at face value ... "Poultry" was destroyed, American farmers began to feed the Soviet people with soap-like legs. That's the end of the fairy tale.
            In my senile notebook, all accounts are written to everyone who harmed my homeland, which does not exist now. To Saudi Arabia, to Israel, well, as it is without the States. Well, Greenpeace is recorded here. Take my notebook, there will be time - present this bill to Greenpeace in full - there are not only Ptitseprom, there are still moments.
        3. Heccrbq .2
          Heccrbq .2 26 September 2013 17: 50 New
          0
          Greenpeace from the very beginning was and remains a cover, as well as WHO (World Health Organization) and others and others ..
          1. Bersaglieri
            Bersaglieri 27 September 2013 00: 10 New
            0
            As for the WHO or the Red Cross, it’s wrong.
            And Greenie Pipis, yes,.
        4. Simon
          Simon 26 September 2013 20: 06 New
          +1
          Yeah, they checked ours for lice, but got it in the teeth. laughing
        5. German
          German 26 September 2013 23: 07 New
          0
          America was also discovered ... I'm talking about Greenpeace and politics .... And it would be nice for them (Greenpeace) to go somewhere to "shock" construction projects, at once the desire would be repulsed by all sorts of different "Shares"! Khabarovsk, etc. after the flood!
      4. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 September 2013 09: 03 New
        10
        Quote: SHILO
        - you need to crush the paid Greenpeace desk

        Now, if they get five years of strict planes each, then the desire of the paid to go away will disappear. The northern zones are harsh not for the western man in the street wink
        1. DEMENTIY
          DEMENTIY 26 September 2013 09: 33 New
          +8
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: SHILO
          - you need to crush the paid Greenpeace desk

          Now, if they get five years of strict planes each, then the desire of the paid to go away will disappear. The northern zones are harsh not for the western man in the street wink


          There is such a program launched by VVP - it is called "Cleaning the Russian Arctic". The project is working - it is quite possible to put these clowns with banners and dumb electronics on a shovel and a wheelbarrow to strengthen the ecology of the Russian north!
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 26 September 2013 11: 45 New
            +1
            "... put on a shovel and a wheelbarrow to strengthen the ecology of the Russian north" and GPS to attach, so as not to get lost somewhere on the New Earth.
        2. StolzSS
          StolzSS 26 September 2013 09: 57 New
          +1
          So exactly in Revdinskaya let them sit for 10 years beyond the Arctic Circle)))
        3. ben gun
          ben gun 26 September 2013 10: 00 New
          +2
          If these hmyrov are planted, then simply the rates for the next Greenpeace will be higher for their hard work in the Arctic places and latitudes of Russia. Probably they will immediately show a large figure to the sponsors, taking into account the potential for possible health damage due to bathing in the non-hot waters of the northern seas.
          Well, the evil FSIN can indeed make cleaning them clean up the Arctic for several years! MORE LET'S DISPUTE! laughing
        4. Jin
          Jin 26 September 2013 10: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Now, if they get five years of strict planes each, then the desire of the paid to go away will disappear. The northern zones are harsh not for the western man in the street


          Article 227 part 1 ... this is just about the "green pis":
          shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of five to ten years.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 September 2013 10: 55 New
            +2
            Quote: Jin
            shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of five to ten years.

            Zhenya, they won’t give 10, but five is just right for brains reduction.
            1. Jin
              Jin 26 September 2013 11: 12 New
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Zhenya, they won’t give 10, but five is just right for brains reduction.


              Yes, they, Sasha and a penny enough for the eyes)
              1. vlad_pr
                vlad_pr 26 September 2013 12: 08 New
                +1
                And also, in the meantime, an easy penetration of a forged boot over the genitals, so that no more of these are born. Will be just right, all the same "rainbow" in spirit. Yours faithfully
                1. aviator_IAS
                  aviator_IAS 26 September 2013 12: 47 New
                  +5
                  Quote: vlad_pr
                  still "rainbow" in spirit

                  And they don’t hide it. smile Is it just that there was no rainbow on board?

                  1. Bersaglieri
                    Bersaglieri 27 September 2013 00: 11 New
                    +3
                    Yeah. Their previous pepelats was called Rainbow Warrior.
                2. German
                  German 26 September 2013 23: 19 New
                  0
                  Yes, you don't need to stain your boots - they are already three-quarters incapable of them ("rainbow") and then the boots from d ... but you will have to wash them ...
              2. kavkaz8888
                kavkaz8888 26 September 2013 15: 50 New
                +3
                In the "real" camp, a week is enough. Their children will be ordered to meddle in the Russian Arctic.
                1. Geisenberg
                  Geisenberg 26 September 2013 16: 26 New
                  +2
                  Quote: kavkaz8888
                  In the "real" camp, a week is enough. Their children will be ordered to meddle in the Russian Arctic.


                  On the contrary - I find out that in our camps with pocephists and greenpeepis they make and trample foolish things ...
                  1. German
                    German 26 September 2013 23: 22 New
                    0
                    what time! But really, but if you like it? And Che then with an influx of n ... to do? Yeah ... the flaw is received ..!
        5. Eugeniy_369
          Eugeniy_369 26 September 2013 13: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Now, if they get five years of strict planes each, then the desire of the paid to climb will disappear.

          Greenpeace lobbyist office is understandable. Only 5 years will not change anything, and no hunt will be beaten off. Everything for noise, din and started. A month of arrest is enough. Just the next time, when detained in arctic voditsa, it’s not an outright bath.
        6. German
          German 26 September 2013 23: 14 New
          0
          so not only the northern ones ... I hesitate, however, that the gayropean will survive in the middle lane (in the sense of "in the zone") ... they are pampered, spoiled ... here are fools! but they climb like flies in the city. .about.
      5. v.lyamkin
        v.lyamkin 26 September 2013 10: 27 New
        +1
        Rough, of course, but fair.
      6. max702
        max702 26 September 2013 13: 43 New
        +3
        And what the headlines would be! - "Greenpeace activists are GORGEON !! White Russian bears !! .. this is the solution to the problem! Icebreaker for us, activists for bears ..
      7. piotr534
        piotr534 26 September 2013 15: 34 New
        +2
        But seriously, you need to press the paid Greenpeace office
        I think that the arrest and imprisonment of Greenpeace activists for serious sentences would be an adequate response to the West for Viktor Bout and other Russian citizens whom the amers specifically catch around the world.
        1. Bersaglieri
          Bersaglieri 27 September 2013 00: 14 New
          +1
          Since when did the rogue Booth become a "victim of tyranny" and "an innocent victim of a Russian". EMNIP, he has either 4 or 5 passports of different states :)
      8. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 26 September 2013 15: 36 New
        14
        Quote: SHILO
        But seriously - you need to press the paid Greenpeace office.
    2. Sandov
      Sandov 26 September 2013 09: 47 New
      +8
      It turns out that while in Salekhard they were preparing to carry out the “Arctic - the territory of dialogue”, somewhere “in the wild, wild West” they pondered the “Arctic Challenge” - one of the most large-scale exercises under the auspices of the United States this year. Some are trying to conduct an international Arctic dialogue, while others are more accustomed to monologues and challenges. With just the names of events, it is already possible to draw a definite conclusion about the geopolitical strategy of various states.

      This suggests that the amers did not think about any reboot. Whenever possible, grab a hand outstretched for greeting. The immorality of the Anglo-Saxons is amazing.
    3. sapsan14
      sapsan14 26 September 2013 09: 49 New
      +1
      Of course + for a beautiful picture.
      Only the north can be defended only by the development of cities, transport, and logistics. Attract people to the north. So did all the leaders of the country who were happy for their homeland.
      The effect in the Arctic, in the Far East, cannot be instantaneous. There must be POLICY and WILL.
      And now we have cunning "leaders": we will hand over the territories - "Peter the Great" is in the news, we are squeezing the population to the mainland - "Kuznetsov", minerals beyond the "hill" - "Dolgoruky".
      Now Greenpeace is in the news (I agree: they need to be pressed).
      But why keep Russian people for fools!
      Where is the STATE ARCTIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM?
      The rest of the cartoons for the "people"
      1. turan_up
        turan_up 26 September 2013 13: 14 New
        +3
        Remember the box they presented to Lavrov. There was no "reboot" but "OVERLOAD". Allegedly wrong .. According to Freud, a slip ..
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 26 September 2013 23: 30 New
        0
        Quote: sapsan14
        Attract people to the north. So did all the leaders of the country who were happy for their homeland.

        Do not you think that you do not have enough people? 148 million - and then master the Arctic, and the vast Siberia, and the Far East, and Kamchatka, and the Kuril Islands! How are you going to solve the problem? You also cancel maternity capital! laughing
        In short, not to abolish, but to increase maternal capital, to ban abortions at all, to ban abortions at all, to create effective anti-venereal drugs at the same time, to start powerful propaganda in the style of "Children? Not less than three", to release guys from even moral responsibility and, in general, alimony for skillful pumping (but WITHOUT VIOLENCE !!! am ) to fools of children with simultaneous powerful social support of these fools. Without these measures, I somehow wonder that you will have enough strength for the competent development of these territories. With so many people who want to learn them instead of you, from which you also need to maintain a powerful army!
    4. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 26 September 2013 13: 12 New
      0
      The Arctic is becoming a hot region. If the fleet is to fight, it is there. "Kuznetsov" in its place!




      He, Tavkr Kuznetsov, and stands in his place, near the 92nd base of Atomflot. Soon he will be put into permanent repair with modernization.
    5. 755962
      755962 26 September 2013 21: 44 New
      +4
      Has anyone seen Greenpeace ecologists during an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, or near Japanese Fukushima? But why, they urgently need to save the Arctic from Russia !?
      1. Rusich51
        Rusich51 28 September 2013 10: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: 755962
        Has anyone seen Greenpeace ecologists during an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, or near Japanese Fukushima? But why, they urgently need to save the Arctic from Russia !?


        By the way, Fukushima still pollutes the ocean with its waste. Everything swims to the shores of America.
    6. old man54
      old man54 27 September 2013 09: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Kibalchish
      If the fleet is to fight, it is there. "Kuznetsov" in its place!

      do not write nonsense, my dear! Have you seen the Arctic yourself, live ?? From November to April, Kuznetsov will also "protect the Arctic", in all its open spaces, or what?
    7. Edward72
      Edward72 29 September 2013 15: 12 New
      0
      Well, why only the 063rd job, and the submarines also need to be worked out with such torpedoes so that there is no dust left.
  2. Civil
    Civil 26 September 2013 07: 19 New
    13
    In the Arctic, we have no friendly countries ....
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 26 September 2013 07: 34 New
      11
      Quote: Civil
      ... In the Arctic, we have no friendly countries ...

      Yes and no need. The main thing is that we ourselves, well and thoughtfully invest in the Northern regions of Russia, in the same NSR, in the port and transport infrastructure and work, work for ourselves ..
    2. Lantau
      Lantau 26 September 2013 07: 49 New
      +9
      That's right. Russia has only two allies - the army and navy.
      1. turan_up
        turan_up 26 September 2013 13: 16 New
        +2
        I would also add the Strategic Nuclear Forces and the GRU Special Forces. 4 allies, it will somehow be more handy than 2)))
    3. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 26 September 2013 12: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: Civil
      In the Arctic, we have no friendly countries ....

      Do they even exist? wink Change of leadership, a 180% turn and, voila, yesterday's friends spit in your back, it's good if they just spit. There are a lot of examples.
      1. vadson
        vadson 26 September 2013 22: 15 New
        +1
        Are you talking about our country? the impression is that we are talking about the government, everything is against the people ...
  3. awg75
    awg75 26 September 2013 07: 23 New
    13
    we must fight for the Arctic with all our might --- our children and great-grandchildren will really need it
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 26 September 2013 07: 29 New
      +5
      Quote: awg75
      ... for the Arctic we must fight hard

      By and large, we are already fighting for her darling. All this "stench" from these eco-klekush is a response to our obvious successes in the development of this important region. The most unpleasant thing for the "civilized" is that these successes are ACHIEVED by Russia, without their participation, without moral admonitions and tips from the Brussels and other Washington-New Yorks, and therefore all the benefits from this development are past them. How can you not be upset here?
  4. Bykov.
    Bykov. 26 September 2013 07: 25 New
    +2
    Not everyone likes the dominant role of Russia in the development of the Arctic, and that’s the pressure, the bastards, with all the levers that are possible for them at the moment. Nothing, it’s worse to beat us!
  5. Lk17619
    Lk17619 26 September 2013 07: 26 New
    +6
    So it is necessary to conduct their exercises of the Navy and northern aviation directly at the borders of these states, let them keep a little))). Maybe they will die down. In general, the Arctic has always been primordially Russian and mastered by Russian sailors and pioneers. And all these Scandinavians and arrogant Saxons went to .........
    1. Fofan
      Fofan 26 September 2013 08: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: Lk17619
      So it is necessary to conduct their exercises of the Navy and northern aviation directly at the borders of these states, let them keep a little))). Maybe they will die down. In general, the Arctic has always been primordially Russian and mastered by Russian sailors and pioneers. And all these Scandinavians and arrogant Saxons went to .........

      so already held. Do not remember the training bombing of Russian bombers on the territory, it seems Sweden, and the scandal with flightless Swedish interceptors?
      1. Lk17619
        Lk17619 26 September 2013 09: 05 New
        +1
        It was a deal. But as far as I know, missiles from ships of the Northern Fleet have not yet been launched on them (at least training) ......)))))
        1. German
          German 26 September 2013 23: 27 New
          +1
          it’s necessary to invite Ukrainian rocket launchers, they have a lot of experience in getting into civilian objects ... (and they can’t get into their Verkhovna Rada in any way)
  6. treskoed
    treskoed 26 September 2013 07: 28 New
    +2
    Always give an asymmetrical answer to any actions of green and other colors of "friends", regardless of the declared "peacekeeping" goals !!!
  7. vitek1233
    vitek1233 26 September 2013 07: 29 New
    +2
    These "partners" only respect the Force
  8. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 26 September 2013 07: 29 New
    +3
    I read somewhere that in the future there will be a struggle in the world for fresh water reserves. And in the Arctic, its reserves are huge .. It starts ..
  9. koksalek
    koksalek 26 September 2013 07: 33 New
    +4
    With Greenpeace it is necessary under the law, there is nothing to stick with them, today they drag a capsule, tomorrow they will throw a bomb into their neck!
    1. Quiet
      Quiet 26 September 2013 08: 09 New
      +4
      With Greenpeace it is necessary under the law, there is nothing to stick with them, today they drag a capsule, tomorrow they will throw a bomb into their neck!

      Now let them "promote" in a zugundere for a year on our gruel (it's not their fattening in prison). Then they will tell their own and there will be no interested persons !!! laughing
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 26 September 2013 09: 26 New
        +4
        Correctly Quiet, on the bunk for violating the border, an attempt to take possession of private property (platform) and to the full, so that from now on, it would not be disastrous !!! To someone else's loaf, do not open your mouth !!! And then they correctly noticed, with the cannon of boats, that would be another time, there was nothing to get !!!
        1. Dmitry 2246
          Dmitry 2246 26 September 2013 11: 15 New
          +2
          Amazed by the technical equipment of the greens, training at the level of special forces of marines, icebreaker equipment.
          Closely track information and financial support, help environmentalists live in the fresh air, and not in a musty capsule.
        2. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 26 September 2013 11: 50 New
          +1
          and it is imperative to give them "Belomor" so that they know at least part of our coastline, so that later they do not "get lost" after serving time.
          1. Quiet
            Quiet 26 September 2013 12: 52 New
            +1
            and be sure to give them "Belomor"

            It is impossible !!! they will read the card on the pack and rush to the run !!! laughing
        3. Quiet
          Quiet 26 September 2013 12: 50 New
          0
          with canfiscate watercraft

          Even such a poor ice-breaker we will find where to attach !!! laughing good
          1. jjj
            jjj 28 September 2013 01: 28 New
            0
            With this steamer, the stem is painfully straight, not humpy on the icebreaker. And they are very high above the water. It’s a little like an icebreaker
      2. Jin
        Jin 26 September 2013 11: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: Quiet
        Now let them "promote" in a zugundere for a year on our gruel (it's not their fattening in prison). Then they will tell their own and there will be no interested persons !!!


        Even better, in the best Western traditions, make a reality show out of this! "Better to see once than hear a hundred times"! laughing
  10. fklj
    fklj 26 September 2013 07: 34 New
    11
    The triangle of the Rybachy Peninsula - the North Pole - the Bering Strait, exclusively Russian territory, no matter who says or signs.
    The main thing is that oil production on the shelf would not turn into an environmental catastrophe.
    1. Bersaglieri
      Bersaglieri 27 September 2013 00: 17 New
      +2
      Let us recall the "political map of the world" in 1990. The "border of the polar possessions of the USSR" looks exactly like this. And Russia is the legal successor of the USSR. No extras no demarcations were carried out in the Arctic.
  11. Yura
    Yura 26 September 2013 07: 39 New
    +3
    The Arctic Sunrise went to the Arctic, and he found a donkey there, and covered their hike with a copper basin, and now they soar on the bunks in a pre-trial detention center, the ears of a dead donkey are told to them, they go to visit through the door, not through the backside.
  12. Dimy4
    Dimy4 26 September 2013 07: 42 New
    0
    The next time, and he certainly will be, we must not limit ourselves to the fire hoses, but to shoot, for example, from machine guns. Diplomats will come up with an excuse later.
    1. Llirik
      Llirik 26 September 2013 10: 03 New
      +2
      Your mood is clear. But!!! We are cultural people! .. We have everything according to the letter of the law. Exceptionally humane methods like naughty kittens. No member- and other sabotage, only detention, trial, and labor for the benefit of society on logging or cleaning the coast and islands. We ask all activists to visit, more hands - more benefits for the North
    2. Bersaglieri
      Bersaglieri 27 September 2013 00: 21 New
      +1
      The French, when in the mid-80s, "Greenpeep" specifically zadolbal them, simply by the forces of underwater saboteurs, they blew up the Greenpeep schalanda (the same "Rainbow Warrior"), which was hanging out near the Mururoa atoll.

      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Warrior
      The Rainbow Warrior was blown up and sunk shortly before midnight New Zealand time on July 10, 1985. Two explosive devices were mounted on its body by operational agents of the French intelligence.
  13. Bykov.
    Bykov. 26 September 2013 07: 43 New
    +4
    .... "Feeling" the Russian Arctic ....

    To rip out these "tentacles", but to the very root, so that nothing new will grow.
  14. Hleb
    Hleb 26 September 2013 07: 49 New
    +2
    In the administrative center of the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug - in the 47th Salekhard - the next (third in a row) International Arctic Forum is working.

    meanwhile, Gazprom freezes the construction of some facilities. general contractors have seen a decline in workload and staff reductions ... to ask these questions there
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 26 September 2013 21: 50 New
      +4
      Quote: Gleb
      meanwhile, Gazprom freezes the construction of some facilities. general contractors have seen a decline in workload and staff reductions ... to ask these questions there
      Today we went from work by a regular bus, and everyone was amicably discussing today's performance of our "guarantor" - how, for the better, life in Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug has changed over the past 10 years. No censorship will miss our "kind" words. 20 km between Nadym and St. Nadym, - a game of lotorey, Pontoons at the crossing of the Nadym river are rotten, half flooded with water, now -9 and they are additionally icy, a truck was stuck and the road workers could not clear the passage for 2 hours, they were looking for a tractor, a queue of cars from both sides kilometer, and if any misfortune happens, neither the fire brigade nor the ambulance will be able to arrive on time. This is not the first day, this is constant, But this will not be shown on a zombie. Tomorrow I will take a special photo. In our city, 50 thousand residents, not counting shift workers, on the moon, there is no normal road, the prices in stores and for housing and communal services are prohibitive. I am fed up with the nonsense of our rulers, and I invite our jingoistic patriots to the "clean" Arctic, I guarantee unforgettable impressions.
  15. parazit
    parazit 26 September 2013 07: 53 New
    +1
    So it is necessary to conduct their exercises of the Navy and northern aviation directly at the borders of these states, let them keep a little))). Maybe they will die down. In general, the Arctic has always been primordially Russian and mastered by Russian sailors and pioneers. And all these Scandinavians and arrogant Saxons went to .........


    there is nothing to carry out now, everything that is more or less in a combat-ready state is now off the coast of Syria. So far, Russia does not have the opportunity to simultaneously "show its teeth" in different parts of the globe. Thanks to the previous "presidents" ...
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 September 2013 07: 57 New
    +1
    These "greens" are becoming more and more wild, and just look like a terrorist. And there is only one conversation with terrorists - to destroy (if they don't give up).
  17. Ihrek
    Ihrek 26 September 2013 07: 57 New
    +2
    Most of the Arctic rightfully belongs to Russia - this right must be secured. The future of our country depends on this. There are huge reserves of oil, gas and fresh water. And strategically it is of great importance.
  18. rpek32
    rpek32 26 September 2013 08: 10 New
    14
    Well, that’s it. Now penguins will begin to force the world
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 26 September 2013 08: 42 New
      24
      Well, actually penguins are not found in the Arctic. They are residents of Antarctica. And in the Arctic there are polar bears. These are also Russian bears, only in maskhalats.
      1. pri3rak
        pri3rak 26 September 2013 09: 34 New
        +5
        Yyyyyy !! About bears in maskhalata respect !!! +++

        But seriously, Greenpeace as such has long been a puppet and fulfills orders,
    2. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 26 September 2013 08: 57 New
      +4
      "The American military is withdrawing its troops from the Arctic. The bloody regime has defended its homeland!" laughing
      1. 0255
        0255 26 September 2013 10: 22 New
        +3
        Well, actually penguins are not found in the Arctic. They are residents of Antarctica. And in the Arctic there are polar bears. These are also Russian bears, only in maskhalats.

        it is still unknown what wealth is in Antarctica. There is even a ban on the exploration of minerals in Antarctica, in my opinion, until 2025, so after this year, perhaps we will find out that penguins do not have democracy wink
    3. turan_up
      turan_up 26 September 2013 13: 19 New
      +2
      It is necessary to deliver the S-300 to penguins. Against Amer's Tomahawks))
      1. 0255
        0255 26 September 2013 17: 47 New
        0
        But how will the S-300 behave in frosts of -50 ...- 60 degrees? wink
    4. Bersaglieri
      Bersaglieri 27 September 2013 00: 23 New
      0
      Penguins, then what? Geography - "did not know and forgot", or what? :)
  19. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 26 September 2013 08: 27 New
    +4
    "In the administrative center of the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug - in the 47-thousandth Salekhard - the next (third in a row) International Arctic Forum is working. Its name is" The Arctic - Territory of Dialogue ". Wrong name. It should be like this: "ARCTIC - RUSSIAN TERRITORY"! Forever and ever! For those in doubt, look at the map of the Soviet Union.
  20. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 26 September 2013 08: 31 New
    +2
    Greenpeace is very expensive. Who pays for it is the one who "calls the tune". They write a lot about him, but they do not reveal who is paying for it. One can only guess.
    We have a lot of laws - let them work for the good of the country in this case. So that next time it will be discordant to the "activists". Well, it's natural to confiscate the weapon of crime.
  21. diver1977
    diver1977 26 September 2013 09: 01 New
    +2
    The entire Arctic should belong to the Russian Federation. For hundreds of years no one but Russia needed anyone, but then everyone ran in! No one has so many rights to develop the Arctic.
    1. 0255
      0255 26 September 2013 10: 26 New
      +2
      The entire Arctic should belong to the Russian Federation. For hundreds of years no one but Russia needed anyone, but then everyone ran in! No one has so many rights to develop the Arctic.

      hundreds of years ago, the Arctic was considered an unnecessary outskirts of the world, where the temperature is -40 degrees. And now we have learned that there is oil - that means the Americans need the Arctic. Although they could be content with Alaska, there is also enough good
      1. kaktus
        kaktus 2 October 2013 16: 49 New
        0
        Alaska was also not valued until they found gold there.
  22. rugor
    rugor 26 September 2013 09: 10 New
    +1
    WHAT you attacked the poor Greenpeace. These fools are probably fighting for an idea, the question is who skillfully directs them and pours the necessary information into naive heads.

    It is necessary to take into service and urgently carry out actions to save America from shale gas. Indeed, the fate of the raccoon atom of the viper of the Mississippi tributaries is not indifferent to us. laughing
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 26 September 2013 09: 49 New
      +1
      The idea, backed up by green loot = party green.
  23. JonnyT
    JonnyT 26 September 2013 09: 21 New
    +2
    Our Arctic !!!! And it cannot be otherwise !!!

    We have the strength and means to defend this territory. We have the strength and means and knowledge to develop this territory without harming the environment. The lot of mongrels bark and choke in their bile, finely foul. The destiny of the people of creator and creator is to create great things that move the progress of all mankind forward!
  24. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 26 September 2013 09: 22 New
    +3
    Something Greenpeace activity in the Gulf of Mexico is not observed.
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 26 September 2013 09: 56 New
      +1
      If I am not mistaken in the 80s, there were attempts to interfere, but the amers without their slightest tenderness their boat was exhausted.
      1. Bersaglieri
        Bersaglieri 27 September 2013 00: 27 New
        +1
        Not amers, but the French, wrote above about that episode.
  25. duchy
    duchy 26 September 2013 09: 23 New
    +1
    Article +. Greens have not yet ripened to legal methods for resolving issues, and now they are ripening in jail.
    Since ancient times in our country there has been non-lethal weapons, all the great watchmen of gardens, gardens, etc. used it. Composition: berdan and a good charge of salt, but larger. Sobering up in one fell swoop, for a long time then they remember about it and do not break the laws.
    Personally, I liked the phrase "
    The forum’s meeting was attended by Russian President Vladimir Putin and the head of the Ministry of Defense (concurrently the President of the Russian Geographical Society) Sergei Shoigu.
    "A good thick hint to all the sinister. We have that MO, that RGO is almost the same. good
    The Arctic was, is and will remain our Russian.
  26. shurup
    shurup 26 September 2013 10: 07 New
    +5
    The incident sets a precedent. Russia now has every right to patrol the regions of the Arctic and the Far East that it needs to combat terrorism. If Greenpeace ships or Japanese crab fishermen get on the net, then it is their problem to prove that they are not terrorists.
    Gentlemen, we must somehow make wider use of democratic methods.
    1. Quiet
      Quiet 26 September 2013 13: 25 New
      0
      Russia now has every right to patrol the regions of the Arctic and the Far East that it needs to combat terrorism.

      Or maybe ours ordered this service so that the reason was constantly patrolling ??? recourse
      1. shurup
        shurup 26 September 2013 14: 38 New
        +1
        On the ship, you can probably find a test tube with unknown substance, and at least one on-board or personal computer there is an instruction for undermining platforms in the Gulf of Mexico for beginners. There is something to show to the wide international community.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 27 September 2013 00: 14 New
          0
          Quote: shurup
          . There is something to show to the wide international community.

          - after the sinking of the ship
  27. Chever
    Chever 26 September 2013 10: 07 New
    +3
    And since when has Greenpeace been acting for the idea? I don't believe in this negative.
    1. pri3rak
      pri3rak 26 September 2013 10: 25 New
      +2
      They never worked for an idea, only for loot ...
      1. HollyGremlin
        HollyGremlin 26 September 2013 13: 58 New
        +2
        There were ideological ones at the front of the struggle for nature, captain Cousteau is an outstanding example. Now it seems there are none left.
  28. Hulk
    Hulk 26 September 2013 10: 12 New
    -37
    Interesting. Interesting.
    The author writes:"Feeling" Russian Arctic.
    When the Arctic of Russia turned, in fact, into Russian.
    Look at the ethnographic map of the Russian Empire.
    The author, in his thoughts, was not far from the US colonialists who had murdered the Indians. For him, probably, there are no other nationalities whose original territory of habitat is the Arctic and coastal land. And if it exists, it’s probably an annoying hindrance. Is it chauvinism or are you a fan of the notorious German politician, whose credo was the correction of the inequality of human races through concentration camps?
    I, as a Russian, am ashamed of this position of the author. I apologize to the indigenous peoples of the Russian Arctic.
    1. Volodin
      26 September 2013 13: 09 New
      +9
      The reader is paranoid. As an effective treatment: learn more about the history of the development of the Arctic and the etymology of the word "Russian".
    2. eplewke
      eplewke 26 September 2013 13: 48 New
      +7
      And here ethnic communities! On the territory of Russia you’re at least drilling, Chuvash, Bashkirs and Chukchi - we are all Russian! Russians have long been no longer an indicator of one nationality. Russian - this word unites all nations according to our mentality. Russian mentality.
    3. Sashkessss
      Sashkessss 26 September 2013 15: 38 New
      +1
      Indigenous peoples of the Arctic are now eating penguins.
      And if it's no joke, nobody really needed the Arctic until oil was found there. And the Russians found her. America, only this drives the thorn of envy into the nail deeper, from which such attacks by "Democratic and environmentally minded" sea pirates are made on our fields
    4. DEfindER
      DEfindER 26 September 2013 18: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Hulk
      The author, in his thoughts, was not far from the US colonialists who had murdered the Indians. For him, probably, there are no other nationalities whose original territory of habitat is the Arctic and coastal land.

      It is necessary to study history and not compose, the Amers of the Indians on the reservation drove, it’s like a concentration camp where they died from starvation and illness by thousands, so it’s not so easy to see an Indian in the United States .. In the Russian Empire, the peoples of the north acquired the same rights as any other Russian, and the authorities paid attention to the development of these regions. True, the tsarist government did not do so much for the north as the Soviet Union ..
      1. Hort
        Hort 27 September 2013 06: 35 New
        +1
        How to say. In many ways, the development of the Arctic by Soviet polar explorers continued on the basis of pre-revolutionary developments and discoveries. The same Kolchak did a lot in terms of scientific work on the Arctic (before the revolution, of course, more).
    5. shark
      shark 26 September 2013 18: 18 New
      +2
      What Russian are you? a swamp hamster .. not otherwise. I apologize to all the Russians for having such a shameful nation.
    6. malikszh
      malikszh 26 September 2013 21: 28 New
      +2
      no need to be ashamed of the world rules its time 2 states of the USSR and the USA. Now it’s time for the United States and Russia to raise their heads, to defend their position in areas of their interests! plus Now China is rising, so it is necessary to quickly determine the territories.
    7. drop
      drop 26 September 2013 21: 32 New
      +4
      Let me disagree with you. There is an international distinction between space and the sea as well. I had to equip the Northern Sea Route, which was then plundered by Gorbachev and Yelnin with their governments. Why doesn't Greenpeace capture the Norwegian and English oil rigs in the northern seas? I will answer this action of this team was authorized by our opponents. That doesn’t work. Norwegians and British know all the subtleties of work in the North and send all sorts of organizations to us for illegal actions. Therefore, you should now protect your territory more than ever.
    8. grafrozow
      grafrozow 26 September 2013 22: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Hulk
      Interesting. Interesting.
      The author writes: “Feeling” the Russian Arctic.
      When the Arctic of Russia turned, in fact, into Russian.
      Look at the ethnographic map of the Russian Empire.
      The author meant that the Arctic is divided into five sectors of responsibility between the United States, Russia, Norway, Canada, Denmark, and such researchers as Amundsen, Nansen, Bering, Franklin ... you cannot call Russians, but the fact that large reserves of gas and oil is located in the Russian zone of responsibility, it is a fact, but if GAZPROM and ROSNEFT carry out production like in the Yamal-Arctic, the end will come, whoever was there understands this, and the "kitchen strategists" do not understand this, do not think that we will leave a legacy to our children ...
    9. Rusich51
      Rusich51 28 September 2013 10: 39 New
      +2
      Hulk
      Our sector of the Arctic - see the map of the USSR. Ethnic groups do not need to be pulled to this topic.
      The united state of Russia - all ethnic groups lived with dignity.
  29. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 26 September 2013 10: 17 New
    +2
    Quote: If you touch on the goal of the Arctic Challenge exercises, then officially they look like this:
    promotion of military cooperation between Finland and the Scandinavian countries in the framework of NORDEFCO (defense cooperation of the northern countries);
    preparation of military units for operations aimed at stabilization in the region and on, attention! - peace enforcement.
    The recent exercises of the Northern Fleet of Russia and the resumption of the operation of a military base in the Novosibirsk Islands, This is a worthy response to lovers of military adventures in the Arctic region. The actions of NATO's "partners" dictate the need to revive the former Soviet military facilities (ice airfields). The event is costly, but extremely necessary.
  30. cahekmosa
    cahekmosa 26 September 2013 10: 37 New
    +2
    For a long time Russia has been "pulled by the mustache" in this region, I do not even pay attention to it. Someday they will get it, they will get it on their ears, but for now it reminds of the fable about the Pug and the Elephant. This is purely my opinion.
  31. Black
    Black 26 September 2013 10: 47 New
    +3
    Listened to Vladimir Vladimirovich ... Somehow he almost apologized ... What does it mean - not the pirates ??? Robbers and provocateurs! All in the zone - sew mittens and roll environmentally friendly boots 10 years.
    1. malikszh
      malikszh 26 September 2013 11: 17 New
      +2
      This is a diplomatic approach! But he showed them that Russia is in control of its zone of interest!
  32. goldfinger
    goldfinger 26 September 2013 10: 50 New
    18
    From Belarus. The topic of the Arctic is close to me in life, I know not by hearsay. Many are performing very loudly here without ever being there. The nature of the North is extremely vulnerable. Greenpeace employees, of course, are impudent guys, but at least they have drawn attention to this topic. Silently, trial drilling of OIL WELLS has begun! Just think about what will happen in the event of the slightest accident! This is not the Gulf of Mexico, where about 6000 vessels have been involved in plugging an emergency well. Damage - over $ 40 billion !!! In addition, the Gulf Stream takes out any spill from the Gulf of Mexico and dissolves it in myriads of tons of Atlantic water, and here all the currents are looped, God forbid what happens, everything will flop in a circle. Nearby there is a zone of active fishing. Let the oilmen first acquire some responsible amount of a special fleet to eliminate possible accidents. Medvedev flew over Yamal at one time and went crazy from thousands and thousands of tons of rusty rubbish, dead equipment, empty barrels, etc., accumulated in the Arctic during the years of "northern delivery". Knowing about this attitude towards ecology on the part of Russian organizations and in general of the entire population, can we count on a responsible attitude towards it in the case of Prirazlomnaya? Yes, nowhere and never! Jokes, jokes, and if Gazprom really foolishly, as everything is done, upon a call from someone, will start drilling, get to oil, will it blow this platform to hell by storm or ice and oil will go through the hole? In winter, when it is simply impossible for ships to stay there due to constant storms? What's next? How to close this hole? Let the oil flow and spread over the surface? So in a few months the entire Arctic will be in oil. And what, Putin will say - we, like, did not calculate something there, little experience and that's it ??? Is it too bold? In the Gulf of Mexico, where there is always a plus and the storms are weaker, they could not plug the hole for six months. British Petroleum, which has been pumping oil on the shelf for half a century. And Gazprom, which has been pumping oil from Soviet wells for twenty years, and has no experience on the shelf. Everything is very serious. And by shouting "The North is ours !!", problems are not solved. Besides oil, people live there, citizens of Russia, for whom the North is their home. And the unique nature, thank God, is not overwhelmed to the end. And besides, you have to jump off the "oil needle". You need to think about the future. Control over such projects should be the most severe. The words that "everything is great!" Is not enough.
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 26 September 2013 22: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: goldfinger
      Besides oil, people live there, citizens of Russia, for whom the North is their home. And the unique nature, thank God, is not overwhelmed to the end. And besides, you have to jump off the "oil needle". You need to think about the future. Control over such projects should be the most severe. The words that "everything is great!" Is not enough.
      +++++ They quickly forgot how near Urengoy, they extinguished the well with gun shots, but how will they put out the sea?
  33. morpogr
    morpogr 26 September 2013 11: 07 New
    +6
    Greenpeace is another agent of the State Department. Let the Gulf of Mexico also save Alaska.
    1. malikszh
      malikszh 26 September 2013 11: 15 New
      +6
      this is exactly under the guise of greenpeace they are the United States is experiencing the reaction of Russia !!! Well done border guards!
  34. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 26 September 2013 11: 33 New
    +4
    The fact that Greenpeace has radically departed from environmental issues, towards paid orders for operations rather of a political orientation, is not a secret. But the fact that hydrocarbon production on the shelf is carried out with harmful consequences for nature. After Gazprom, there is a dead zone on the Yamal Peninsula and no ichthyofauna along the Gulf of Ob. After Lukoil, oil spills for many kilometers (and this is in the tundra strip).
    How to stop this chaos, and if you conduct production, but not to the detriment. This is naturally a matter of Russia, in which for some reason they do not heed the voice of reason, but are guided exclusively by selfish goals. Exploration of reserves by the methods of geophysics and that manages to do business. There can be only one conclusion, we need a well-thought-out, well-thought-out approach, attracting people, then the position of the Russian Federation will be stronger.
    goldfinger-respect you !!!
    1. goldfinger
      goldfinger 26 September 2013 12: 33 New
      +4
      Thank. The soul hurts for the North. As you can imagine, everything after the USSR was only collapsing there. From Amderma (naval aviation) to Anadyr. If the Arctic is still filled with oil, the Sechins and the Millers will flood, that's all. Arrived.
      1. HollyGremlin
        HollyGremlin 26 September 2013 14: 24 New
        +2
        I may be wrong, but it seems to me, from an environmental point of view in the north, more or less. Dead zones in the north? Every day I see through the window a dead zone in the center of Russia, in which only humans and cockroaches survive. In the north, even in cities, it is breathing like in a forest near the capital. Notice, I do not urge to pollute the north, it would just be nice to think about what is nearby. You may not agree, but nature can heal wounds if they are not fatal. Thousands of barrels is more like a PR campaign. For the same money, much more could have been cleared in the central part. Again, my opinion is that all sorts of British Petroleum will obviously not care about our nature - you won’t ask anything from them, if anything, so Gazprom is better.
        1. goldfinger
          goldfinger 26 September 2013 15: 38 New
          +3
          Your arguments are clear. But it seems to me that if the authorities cleanse the Non-Black Earth Region of dirt and debris, in a maximum of a month, it will be the same. Do many of your friends go out on Saturday clean-ups, like in Minsk? I was with relatives in the suburbs (I DO NOT NAME THE CITY, THE SAME) - quiet horror. Garbage seems to be thrown through the windows. No offense. But not the North. Tens of millions live, according to the principle - "Do I need this? Who needs it, let him clean up!" "Ruin in the heads!" - said the hero of Bulgakov. And such people "master" the North. Therefore, it is alarming. And with "BP" you are fundamentally wrong. The damage was compensated in full to the States. 100 plaintiffs (hotels, fishermen, locals) paid $ 000 billion. I am sure that Gazprom, in such a case, will not allocate even a ruble to the Chukchi, Evenks. And you yourself know why. These people, the owners of all of Russia, are no longer Russians, they are citizens of the world. And you know that very well. Respectfully.
          1. HollyGremlin
            HollyGremlin 27 September 2013 11: 23 New
            0
            I think that there will still be less: of course, there are individuals now too, but mostly garbage heaps have remained from the "bad" 90s. And with the logic, why clean today - tomorrow it will also be possible not to brush your teeth and not wash the dishes. In addition, I mainly talked about pollution that cannot be cleaned up at a cleanup: the remains of factories (lamp, chemical, fertilizers), burial grounds. And not the remains of factories throw off not the cleanest wastewater. But with subbotniks and chaos in their heads, you are absolutely right. It seems to me that everything will work out here when the national idea is established, I will explain: it is not yet clear what to do when I saw a heap of garbage:
            1). Himself removed (ideology of universal responsibility, socialism, the moral right path)
            2). I called the appropriate office (economically more correctly - everyone should do his own thing)
            Oddly enough, but our people are not used to swearing, calling and demanding, so the second way takes root very hard.
            And BP reimbursed the states, remember at least one case when a foreign company reimbursed something to Russia. And Gazprom is fluttering, maybe slurred and ridiculous, but still something and I naively hope that there are still people there.
          2. Rusich51
            Rusich51 28 September 2013 10: 47 New
            +1
            goldfinger
            Repeatedly visited Minsk, a clean and beautiful city. Take care of him. We and Moscow have as much dirt as you want. The population is everywhere, that's the attitude.
  35. Jarserge
    Jarserge 26 September 2013 11: 34 New
    +1
    All these "mezhdunarodnye" organizations since the Cold War have been working for one country, or rather against one country .... So they violated? So, in spite of all the howl - for "the entire depth of immersion"
  36. Guun
    Guun 26 September 2013 11: 35 New
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    Green clowns. He laughed, something reminiscent of fiction where the evil natives of the caves climb onto the walls of the castle where their defenders together poured boiling oil. But the case is not the first, to give a deadline - to put in a non-democratic prison with the locals - to wait for the result. Maybe wiser.
  37. IOwTZ
    IOwTZ 26 September 2013 11: 51 New
    -1
    Greens urgently to Kadyrov for re-education.
  38. sined0707
    sined0707 26 September 2013 11: 52 New
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    It was necessary to sink this icebreaker green tries, there is a war against us, and we play with them in the sprues. / Then it may be too late, it seems to me here it is necessary to be tougher, the question is an edge, or or, and no nails. Declare this territory closed as before Kamchatka was ....
  39. Alikovo
    Alikovo 26 September 2013 11: 53 New
    0
    it is necessary to strengthen the surface fleet of the Russian Federation Navy SF so that in the future the Greenpeace officers do not put their nose where it is not necessary, and the submarine fleet is already impressive.
  40. Betahon
    Betahon 26 September 2013 12: 14 New
    +2
    To some extent, I agree with Goldfinger that decades of development of the northern lands and seas, and, by the way, this refers to outer space over Russia, have developed a consumer-patriotic attitude only to receive free, given by God and nature, wealth, natural space ... Few academics have been closely involved in the utilization of the results of human activity in seemingly vast spaces ... But the various remaining unnecessary utensils, barrels, and rusty equipment gradually fill not only water, but also near-Earth space. Moreover, in space, waste, already numbering thousands of objects, really threaten spacecraft, as they move in the same orbits.
    Here it’s more a matter of morality ... the Great said that we are responsible for the tamed animal ... This also applies to the environment that belongs to Russia by right, in which we exist! Yes, this is our space, which is protected by our law and the forces providing it, but we must not use this space barbarously, but also restore it! These are, without a doubt, colossal means! However, there are international agreements on the mutual economic use and conservation of resources and nature. Here it is necessary to look for the necessary peaceful and mutually beneficial cooperation for nature and humanity ....
    Something like this should be thought by people who need to transfer everything that is available to their descendants! Well, rats, in the face!
  41. click80
    click80 26 September 2013 12: 49 New
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    Quote: Black Colonel
    And the Greenpeace themselves to send to the logging - there, too, environmental problems must be solved!

    you are wrong, they are Greenpeace people, they "protect" nature, they cannot go to the felling. let it be better on the permafrost polar birches and reindeer lichen are cultivated laughingunder strict convoy with machine gunssensitive leadership
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  43. holding
    holding 26 September 2013 14: 03 New
    +1
    There is nothing for any foreigners to roam where they were not invited. Especially in our Arctic.
    And it should be harder to grab onto grips - with bruises; so that others would not be accustomed ...
  44. individual
    individual 26 September 2013 14: 48 New
    +1
    From this scenario, it is clear that the States do not wash, but drive neutrals Sweden and Finland into NATO, their joint interests are all against Russia.
    The exercises in Lapland and the actions of the crew of the "green icebreaker" from the same category.
  45. pahom54
    pahom54 26 September 2013 15: 23 New
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    We are pleased with the LEVEL of the Russian representative office in solving such an important issue as "finding a balance between interests in the development of colossal mineral deposits" (I mean our President and Minister of Defense).
    And the detained Greenpeace employees should not be called pirates by international standards, but violators of the Russian state border, or they can also be called terrorists (for attempting to enter a floating platform), and judged by our Russian laws. The (green) people should be sent to preserve and increase the natural resources of our taiga, and the icebreaker - to be renamed "Ice Prize".
  46. Semeon
    Semeon 26 September 2013 15: 31 New
    +3
    First, drive the stool into the stall, then share the free grub.
  47. Hulk
    Hulk 26 September 2013 17: 49 New
    -2
    Quote: Volodin
    The reader is paranoid. As an effective treatment: learn more about the history of the development of the Arctic and the etymology of the word "Russian".


    Well, if you make diagnoses, it means from a family of doctors! Good doctor Joseph Mengele (Josef Mengele) is not your relative? Before starting the experiments, the good doctor Mengele could stroke the child on the head, treat him with chocolate ...
    You don’t sing about mastering a fairy tale. You probably know about mastering from Channel 1. Or Soviet books have been read. And I lived with the hunters.
    That's about how it gets used to it, doctor.

    Indigenous Peoples' Indigenous Peoples (the indigenous peoples of the North who spend money on alcohol lose their traditional craftsmanship. Now the second generation of Khanty and Mansi, who do not know their native language, do not know how to track the beast and set a trap on it, how to fish.
    In the body of indigenous peoples, there is an insufficient number of enzymes responsible for the breakdown of alcohol, so alcohol causes completely unpredictable reactions in them, in particular, craziness, a state of affect. Drunk Khanty easily quarrel among themselves because of nonsense and clutching at knives or guns (some still have grandfathers. In villages where representatives of the indigenous minorities make up a large share, they freely sell alcohol, although it is obviously clear that this is not good The children from dysfunctional families of the Khanty and Mansi begin to drink beer sometimes at the age of 10.
    The current policy of the Russian and regional authorities regarding Khanty and Mansi is quiet genocide. Not gas chambers and mass executions, as the Nazis destroyed the Slavs, Jews and Gypsies, but the destruction fitting into the norms of a "democratic society". After all, it is clear that Khanty and Mansi should be protected from alcohol, but the state does not do this, on the contrary, it encourages their craving for alcohol, giving them money just like that.
    Exactly the same form of silent genocide is carried out by the US authorities against the Indians. E. In the reservation, alcohol is actively imported, despite the well-known problems of the Indians with “fiery water”, cash benefits are constantly being distributed. The state and federal authorities do not carry out any fight against alcoholization of Indians.

    Oil companies are consciously involved in the alcoholization of Khanty and Mansi in Ugra if it is necessary to obtain permission from them to build a new oil pipeline or develop a new field. The Khanty and Mansi have their own land for traditional nature management, that is, hunting, fishing and gathering, often they somehow fall into the zone of interests of oil companies. In the villages of the indigenous minorities, oil workers import alcohol and arrange a “holiday” after drinking, indigenous representatives of the indigenous peoples are no longer in control and will sign whatever paper they want for an additional 100 grams.
    But all this information is leaked extremely rarely. All belong either to regional authorities or to oil companies - not a single independent print or television media. Given that in villages and towns almost all types of work are tied to budgetary spheres, a conflict with the authorities closes all the possibilities of earning. Local therefore do not climb into conflicts. Having accumulated money, they simply leave for the "Great Land". There are Khanty and Mansi. To get drunk, degrade and die out.
    With abbreviations.

    http://uralistica.com/profiles/blogs/alkogolnyj-genocid
    1. Volodin
      26 September 2013 21: 28 New
      +2
      "Mengele", "chocolate", ... As the hero of one famous film used to say: "You need to have a snack!" Paranoia, coupled with abuse, is no laughing matter.
      And I lived with the Khanty
      . Probably, they drove you away ...
    2. Rusich51
      Rusich51 28 September 2013 10: 51 New
      +1
      Hulk. Regarding Mengele - no need to go too far.
  48. Hulk
    Hulk 26 September 2013 18: 14 New
    -1
    Quote: eplewke
    And here ethnic communities! On the territory of Russia you’re at least drilling, Chuvash, Bashkirs and Chukchi - we are all Russian! Russians have long been no longer an indicator of one nationality. Russian - this word unites all nations according to our mentality. Russian mentality.

    Maybe you are drilling, Chuvash, Bashkirs and Chukchi combined, but certainly not Russian. Because you don’t know or forgot about kinship.
    Here is a wonderful Russian proverb about kinship. Wife with advice, mother-in-law with greetings, and darling mother with affection.
    1. Rusich51
      Rusich51 28 September 2013 10: 54 New
      +1
      Hulk. Learn from Eplevke. And then you drifts on the turns. The fact that order should be everywhere, we know. But the division between ethnic groups and nations will not lead to anything good. Do not pour water on the amer mill.
  49. Avdy
    Avdy 26 September 2013 18: 31 New
    +2
    To the execution of traitors who surrendered the borders of the polar possessions of the USSR!
  50. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 26 September 2013 18: 48 New
    0
    <<< If we talk about the purpose of the Arctic Challenge exercises, then officially they look like this:
    preparation of military units to conduct operations aimed at stabilizing the region and, attention! - peace enforcement. >>>
    The globitalizing shit-democrats are encircling Russia from all sides: from the South, from the North, and even in the center, they are trying to create national-religious tension by sponsoring the spread of Wahhabism, clearly hoping that Russia, which is still in its infancy and strengthening stage, today physically cannot effectively respond to such multi-vector threats and will begin to lose ground! And it seems that no one is going to wait for Russia to gain its strength! Fulfillment of all our plans to strengthen our Armed Forces, the power of Russia and earlier, for at least 5 years!