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Ibraim Suleimenov - steppe shooter

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Ibraim Suleimenov - steppe shooterIn the Western armies, snipers are cherished and strongly encouraged, they have an additional ration, increased pay, they do not go on the attack as ordinary soldiers. Soviet snipers did not enjoy any privileges during the Great Patriotic War. They fought without standing out from the general system, freeing the Motherland from the enemy. It happened that they participated in battles along with infantry, in their hands - an automatic rifle, on the back - a sniper rifle. They were sent ahead of their positions, to the battle hunt. But not only the sniper was hunting the enemy, and every minute the enemy was hunting him. And here someone who has more luck, who has a sharper eye and faster response, he will be the winner, he will remain to live.


About good snipers composed legends: Vasily Zaitsev, Nikolai Semenov, Peter Osadchy. And here is another undeservedly forgotten name: Ibrahim Suleimenov, a Kazakh soldier, one of the best snipers of the Great Patriotic War. He was born in 1908, in the village of Sarysu, Dzhambul region. Before the war, he worked as a tractor driver, in his free time he loved to hunt with an old rifle. In the 1941, in the fall, he was drafted into the Red Army. How did he become a sniper? Very simple. One day, the commander asked the young warriors who among them wanted to become a sniper. Ibrahim first out of order. “Hunter?” Asked the commander. "Hunter. In the steppe on wild animals hunted. And the fascist is also a beast. ” Ibrahim got a sniper rifle and beat the Nazis out of it mercilessly. He served in the 100-th separate rifle Kazakh brigade, formed in Almaty. Low-growth, calm, with a sly soldier, a kind of Kazakh Vasily Terkin, quickly gained credibility among fellow soldiers.

The brigade received baptism of fire in the autumn of 1942 near the city of Rzhev. There, Ibraim Suleimenov began his short but vivid soldier's career. In general, from the Kazakhs, with their keen eyesight of the steppe, on the front, excellent gunners, machine gunners, snipers, navy - observers. Marked arrows distinguished themselves near Rzhev: Bergebay Abdikarimov, who destroyed 48 fascists, Zamanbek Mataev - 34, Petr Osadchiy - 28. Ibraim Suleimenov destroyed 39 officers and soldiers of the enemy. Then the brigade was thrown under the Great Luke, where there were fierce battles. In these battles, Ibraim Suleimenov brought the personal score to 150 fascists.

At the army rally of snipers in the summer of 1943, under the Great Bows, the famous sniper Suleimenov spoke. He said: “Why did I become a sniper? I started a war near Moscow. I saw the executed collective farmers, collective farmers and their children. I entered the houses, and people told me how the Hitlerites scoffed at them. I saw grief, suffering in every home ... I still cannot feel calm now .. It has become hard for me to see it. I swore in those days to become a sniper. Why did I defend Moscow? I am Kazakh, my Kazakhstan is far from Moscow. But Moscow is the capital of our entire Union. She and my capital. That is why I defended Moscow. But that's not all. I thought: if the fascists are not stopped and not destroyed, they can reach my native Kazakhstan. I will not rest until one Hitlerite tramples our land. I destroyed the 239 fascists. I urge you to bear the death of the invaders. "

Ibragim Suleimenov fulfilled his oath with honor. By November 1943, his rifle struck down 239 enemy soldiers and officers. They wrote about him in the newspapers, the Kazakh poet Jambul dedicated poems to him, the glory about him thundered throughout the army. The fascists were terribly afraid of the “steppe arrow,” as they called the Kazakh warrior. There are several cases in which the soldiers of the German army refused to withdraw to positions for fear of hitting the front sight of the famous sniper. The hunt began for foreman Suleimenov. The enemy has bombed any suspicious place where a sniper could hide. The best fascist sniper tried to destroy him, but luck did not leave the brave warrior, and combat fights always ended in his favor.

16 November 1943, a fierce battle broke out at the height of 173,3 at the Izocha station, west of Nevel. On the left flank of the height was firing from a machine gun Manshuk Mametova, on the right fielding three trenches at once, Ibrahim Suleimenov was stationed. In the two extreme he left a rifle, and on average a machine gun and two grenades. As soon as the enemy caught his eye, he immediately smashed him with a sniper rifle. Two attacks of the enemy were repulsed. Ibrahim destroyed 12 fascists. At this time, our infantrymen ran out of ammunition. The soldiers began to retreat. By evening, only Manshuk Mametova and Ibrahim Suleimenov remained at the height, covering the retreat of their comrades. Manshuk's machine gun was already silent, the cries of “Hurray!” Of fellow soldiers were already coming to the rescue, but the ammunition ran out and the brave foreman rushed to hand-to-hand ... Then an enemy bullet overtook him.

After the battle in two trenches Ibraima did not find a single patron. The rifle and machine gun were broken, and the rifle in the third trench remained lying on the parapet, muzzle facing the enemy. Around counted over 30 enemy corpses. His score Ibrahim Suleimenov brought to 289.

The brigade for this fight presented posthumously Manshuk Mametova and Ibraim Suleimenov to the title of Hero of the Soviet Union. The army and the front approved these views. There remained only a word for Moscow, the title of Hero claimed in the government. But in Moscow decided differently. Manshuk Mametova was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union (posthumously), and Ibrahima Suleimenov was awarded the Order of Lenin. Of course, this is a high reward, but still - not the Star of the Hero. The fact remains. One of the best warriors was not awarded the highest award of the country. If you give an assessment over time, then Ibrahim Suleimenov is indeed one of the best snipers in the world. And it is never too late to award the Hero the reward he deserves!
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  1. Lindon
    Lindon 27 September 2013 08: 05 New
    22
    Hero of the Soviet Union still not given? Here are the goons.
    1. malikszh
      malikszh 27 September 2013 08: 43 New
      21
      The Union has been gone for 20 years! But the Hero of Kazakhstan was not given a shame to the Government!
      1. anip
        anip 27 September 2013 10: 03 New
        18
        Could give the Hero of Russia. Deserved the same. So what, that now different countries.
        1. malikszh
          malikszh 27 September 2013 19: 27 New
          +6
          Russia doesn’t have such heroes, for example Mikhail Ilyich Surkov destroyed 702 Germans, still did not receive the title of a hero, Kazakhstan should award!
      2. vlad_pr
        vlad_pr 27 September 2013 11: 47 New
        +6
        Honor, praise and Eternal memory to the Heroes. I don’t remember when, but there was a film dedicated to Manshuk Mametova, if I’m not mistaken, "A Song about Manshuk." It would not be bad if such films were periodically shown on TV, and at the best time. But our TV prefers Petrosyans, comedies and other miscarriages.
        Unfortunately, the reward is far from always finding the real Heroes. And examples of each forum member can lead a lot.
        Sincerely.
      3. bond_es
        bond_es 27 September 2013 14: 24 New
        0
        so they do not study history. they would saw and saw the country on metal.)
      4. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 27 September 2013 18: 19 New
        +4
        They are not awarded twice for the same feat. This is an obstacle.

        Z.Y. Although similar precedents in the history of Russia have already been.
    2. Siberian German
      Siberian German 27 September 2013 11: 25 New
      +6
      given or not - bow to his feat
    3. Sgt.
      Sgt. 27 September 2013 13: 16 New
      +9
      And where are his children, grandchildren. It is necessary to collect documents for Comrade Nazarbayev.
      Do not forget.
      It is necessary to make a full-length film.
      It is necessary that today's youth see this example of Heroism and Courage, selfless love for the Motherland and brotherhood between the Kazakh and Russian peoples.
      It is a sin to forget those who did not spare life for us, living now
    4. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 September 2013 14: 07 New
      13
      Quote: Lindon
      Hero of the Soviet Union still not given? Here are the goons.

      And what did Baurzhan Mamyshuly be given the Hero of the Soviet Union !! it was only in the year 90, and then they gave thanks to Nazarbayev!
      A man whose tactics were studied and is being studied at the most prestigious academies of the world, one of the regiments of the Cuban army bears his name, in Israel among the officers it is obligatory to familiarize him with his book even the rank of general was not given.
  2. xetai9977
    xetai9977 27 September 2013 08: 08 New
    25
    Honor and praise to the brotherly Kazakh people who brought up such Heroes!
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 27 September 2013 08: 23 New
      20
      Bright memory to all heroes. soldier
      Here is another info, the legend of sniper Tleugali Abdibekov

      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 27 September 2013 19: 17 New
        +6
        In addition to Abdibekov, one can also recall Galym Koishybaev, who was also not given the title of Hero.

        "... Sergeant Koyshibaev was demobilized by injury and returned home to his native Kurmangazy folk instrument orchestra, became an honored artist of the republic, raised many students, teaching them how to play the dombra as masterly as he could.
        22 years after the end of the war, he was called up to the draft board.
        “Do you know that even for half your personal account, snipers at the front represented the rank of Hero of the Soviet Union?” asked the military commissar, who himself had gone through the war.
        “I know,” said Koyshibaev. “The commanders also introduced me, but something did not work out, and asking at that time was not accepted.” And there was no time to think about it, it was necessary to fight ...

        AWARD SHEET.
        Koyshibaev Galim, reserve sergeant, division commander of the 1280th Infantry Regiment of the 391st Infantry Division for heroic deeds committed during the Great Patriotic War, and wounded, deserves the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.
        Military Commissioner of the Kazakh SSR General Baikenov.
        The head of the political department, Colonel Gulbas.
        July 19 1967 year.


        The title of GSS was not given.
    2. Hudo
      Hudo 27 September 2013 09: 11 New
      10
      Quote: xetai9977
      Honor and praise to the brotherly Kazakh people who brought up such Heroes!


      Brave and proud people! They did not consider it possible for themselves to leave their positions by covering the unit’s withdrawal. I’m reading an article for my children, let them know what kind of people they need to take as an example.
      1. hommer
        hommer 27 September 2013 13: 53 New
        +9
        In general, from the Kazakhs, with their keen eyesight on the steppes, excellent gunners, machine gunners, snipers were obtained at the front, observers in the navy.


        There is such a feature of vision among the steppes.
        1. Cpa
          Cpa 27 September 2013 14: 49 New
          +3
          Quote: hommer
          There is such a feature of vision among the steppes.

          "The Asian eye is a diamond!"
  3. slacker
    slacker 27 September 2013 08: 37 New
    +1
    239 Nazis killed - a great indicator! The hero deserved without question.
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 27 September 2013 10: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Loafer
      239 Nazis killed

      More attentively.
      Ibraim Suleimenov brought his score to 289
      .
      1. Aydar
        Aydar 27 September 2013 13: 46 New
        +5
        the "idler" in general is not very attentive to such trifles, in the last topic he poured combustible tears, they say the Germans are closer to Russia, and the deity treacherous because the Germans do not like them, they will betray, at any opportunity, and in general the Germans and Russians need to unite - that’s paradise life will come.
  4. Floock
    Floock 27 September 2013 08: 37 New
    13
    And Rakhimzhan Koshkarbayev-Kazakh, one of those who set the banner over the Reichstag.

    The titles of the Hero of the Soviet Union were awarded to the sons and daughters of all the peoples of the USSR, including:

    8182 Russians, 2072 Ukrainians, 311 Belarusians, 161 Tatars, 108 Jews, 96 Kazakhs, 91 Georgians, 90 Armenians, 69 Uzbeks, 61 Mordvinians, 44 Chuvash, 43 Azerbaijanis, 39 Bashkirs, 32 Ossetians, 18 Maris, 18 Turkmens, 15 Lithuanians , 14 Tajiks, 13 Latvians, 12 Kyrgyz, 10 Komi, 10 Udmurts, 9 Estonians, 9 Karelians, 8 Kalmyks, 7 Kabardins, 6 Adyghes, 5 Abkhazians, 3 Yakuts and representatives of many other nationalities.

    And here is a more detailed and detailed statistics on the peoples of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War:
    http://www.ethnoinfo.ru/narody-sssr-v-vojne/314-statistika
    1. Asan Ata
      Asan Ata 27 September 2013 12: 23 New
      +8
      A few years ago, Putin officially confirmed that it was Koshkarbayev who was the first to hoist the flag on the Reichstag. The basis was classified information found in the archives. Egorov and Kantaria were probably also dashing guys, but they were "appointed".
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 27 September 2013 18: 18 New
        +6
        Correct, if possible. It was not Putin himself who confirmed, but the Russian Ministry of Defense recognized that the first Red flag on the Reichstag was hoisted by Rakhimzhan Koshkarbayev and Grigory Bulatov together. This is evidenced by the official divisional reports of those days.
    2. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 27 September 2013 19: 05 New
      +4
      Quote: Floock
      96 Kazakhs

      here a few more Kazakhs are not taken into account. Some were recorded by "Uzbeks", although they claimed to be Kazakhs (Sabir Rakhimov, Rasul Isetov, Plis Nurpeisov). In addition, several people received awards only recently (posthumously) - Bauyrzhan Momyshuly and Baktoraz Beisekbaev.

      In addition to those who received awards for exploits during the Second World War, there are also Kazakhs who received the title of Hero of the USSR and the Russian Federation for Afghanistan and Chechnya - Kaiyrgeldy Maidanov (by the way, he is the only one in history who received both the title of Hero of the USSR and the title of Hero of Russia for military services), Shamil Kokinaev, Azamat Tasimov, Rafik Kadyrbulatov, Zhantas Zholdinov. All of them received the title of Hero of Russia posthumously, except for Shamil Kokinaev. By the way, he was twice represented in this title.

      Well, the astronauts still.
  5. malikszh
    malikszh 27 September 2013 08: 40 New
    16
    there are many Kazakhs worthy of the title of hero of the USSR, but why doesn’t our government give the title of hero of Kazakhstan? compared with Russia, the hero received 108 veterans and we have only 6 veterans !!! Shame on the government.
    1. Asan Ata
      Asan Ata 27 September 2013 12: 25 New
      +3
      Our government and the NAS personally give orders and medals to 99% to officials. Alas.
      1. Aydar
        Aydar 27 September 2013 13: 48 New
        +3
        From the National Academy of Sciences “rewards” are worthy of “heroes”.
  6. anip
    anip 27 September 2013 10: 05 New
    +7
    Just look at his face. How much courage and, at the same time, simplicity. A real folk warrior. It is a pity that the Hero did not live to victory.
    ..
    A film about Manshuk was shot in the USSR: "Song of Manshuk."
  7. Proud.
    Proud. 27 September 2013 10: 37 New
    0
    But isn’t the first photo a sniper Semyon Nokomonov?
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 27 September 2013 18: 21 New
      +6
      no. this is Suleimenov.
  8. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 27 September 2013 10: 43 New
    +2
    Why did I defend Moscow? I am Kazakh, my Kazakhstan is far from Moscow. But Moscow is the capital of our entire Union. She and my capital.
    You can’t say better. Eternal memory to the heroes.hi
  9. Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 27 September 2013 10: 45 New
    +8
    Thanks to this grandfather for the victory!
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 27 September 2013 17: 50 New
      +1
      Next time, write the word "Victory" with a capital letter. In the meantime, you "+" for the fact that you remember your (and our) grandfather-hero.
  10. drop
    drop 27 September 2013 11: 25 New
    +2
    The article is very good, it resurrects glorious names and events in the life of the people and the country. I prepared a series of stories about a forgotten hero, one called "And one is also a warrior." This also applies to our hero. The lack of coordinated command of the troops in the first period of the war did not allow the sniper hunt for the Nazis to be launched when they went on the attack to their full height. Only then did they begin to analyze and evaluate that the sniper squad could stop the advance of the infantry battalion. A trained sniper during an enemy attack makes targeted 6-8 rounds per minute. So calculate how much you could destroy these monsters near Leningrad, for example, when they were advancing to their full height or when on the march the head of the fascist was sticking out of the hatch of the tank. Destroying then under Leningrad thousands of 150 fascists by snipers from the 600 thousandth Army Group "North", we would have avoided that tragedy
  11. Beck
    Beck 27 September 2013 11: 46 New
    +5
    GLORY, GLORY TO HEROES!

    But always one depressed me. And in documentary sources, and in fiction, of that time, too often our valiant warriors happened this way;

    At this time, our infantry ran out of ammunition. The soldiers began to withdraw.

    But the cartridges ran out, and the brave foreman rushed hand to hand ...


    How did it happen? This is how many soldiers died without cartridges and how many subsequently lives did not spoil. I think the country had cartridges. I think that the rear, quartermaster services didn’t work something right.
    1. vlad_pr
      vlad_pr 27 September 2013 12: 08 New
      +2
      As in the First World War, there remained an indicator for military leaders - "ammunition saving." He took something, while saving 2-3 sets, or even a train of ammunition - by, get a reward, and what’s at the same time crazy losses, this is the "estimated loss of personnel." How many wartime warheads have been stored in warehouses to this day? In the book of academician A.N. Krylova “My Memories” gives an example of planning the purchase of ammunition before the First World War, I remember the exact quote, but something like this, “for each gun of 500 rounds, for a rifle of 5000 rounds, cartridges, one of the council members (Bulgarian) stated that if for every gun there will be 5000 rounds, then there will be 500 rounds for a rifle, but whoever listens to some little brother. " It was based on the experience of the Balkan wars before the WWII, in which the Russians participated, but as volunteers. Sincerely.
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 27 September 2013 12: 13 New
      +2
      Of course that's right, you're right. But there are exceptional circumstances, although the war itself is already an exception. But there are a lot of complaints about the rear officers and quartermasters, and their guilt was not always well-deserved.
    3. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 27 September 2013 12: 23 New
      +2
      They are heavy, ammunition. Behind the rear, people right behind the machine tool were dying to “finalize”, but only how to deliver them to the soldier? Now it’s in every piece of iron on the motor, and then ... The logistics of our front are some kind of fantasy. I personally believe that the supply of our troops in those conditions was somewhere beyond the possible, a kind of miracle was committed. But this miracle, no doubt, was not enough. There WAS NO abundance of transport capacities; there simply weren’t. And how much will you take to the hump? "Still not enough, but I won’t raise it anymore."
      It’s free now to curse the quartermasters who dragged the warehouses to the border itself, so the Germans got it. But only who didn’t know how limited the transport capacities were, who could count on how many such short kilometers it was possible to transport all of this with the existing scanty fleet of vehicles and endless, but such load-lifting carts ... This is not a flaw. Did not make it...
      1. vlad_pr
        vlad_pr 27 September 2013 13: 33 New
        +1
        Yes, the supply of troops went to the limit, or so. But in Memoirs and Reflections, Zhukov mentioned the report to Stalin on his attack on Berlin how many echelons of artillery munitions were saved. Look at the history of the war, the number of soldiers killed in this operation. You can’t save on the lives of soldiers !!! You can’t cover it and you will not justify the cost and saving of ammunition. Sincerely.
        1. Cpa
          Cpa 27 September 2013 14: 47 New
          +3
          The situation has changed little since then, our warriors in Chechnya constantly lacked smoke, light rockets, grenades for grenade launchers, camouflage suits, felt boots brought in two days later lying in the snow, cartridges for a machine gun in zinc (although they could put a fighter in the rear to equip ribbons) .Pro laughter in general, they don’t even pull on exercises. It's amazing how patient our fighters are ..
          And thanks to the Kazakh sniper, hero, although they didn’t give it. Relatives themselves will not ask for it; it is necessary to initiate historical and military clubs for this, so that the descendants are proud and strive to correspond. And add their names to the list of heroes on the Mount of Worship!
        2. Beck
          Beck 27 September 2013 18: 46 New
          +6
          Quote: vlad_pr
          in Memoirs and Reflections, Zhukov mentioned to Stalin on the attack on Berlin how many echelons of artillery munitions had been saved.


          I will continue a little.

          Marshal Vasilevsky was the chief of the General Staff throughout the war. At the end of the war, probably not to be only a staffer in history, he was entrusted with the Koenigsberg operation, it seems without interruption from his main position.

          And Vasilevsky used his official position. I don’t remember how much, but the artillery barrels per kilometer of the front, during the Koenigsberg operation, was the largest in the entire war. And the artillery ammunition on the barrel was also the largest.

          Koenigsberg itself was almost completely destroyed. According to the recollections of the German staff officers, when they rose from the staff cellars with errands, they lost their orientation on the surface. Everything was in ruins, piles of broken bricks, streets, a strass, as such did not exist, and where that strass or another they could not make out.
    4. In
      In the book 27 September 2013 15: 41 New
      0
      Yes, it’s a shame that our mountain commanders used soldiers as cannon fodder. When the right-bank Ukraine was liberated, field military commissariats marched along with regular troops and immediately recruited young men into the army to liberate the Nazis with a piece of brick and with sticks (autumn 1943), armed and seated in trenches. How many lives have been destroyed.
  12. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 September 2013 12: 10 New
    +2
    But among people he is a REAL HERO! Although not with the Golden Star, although it is necessary to hand it over to relatives (I hope someone has a hero in their relatives), raise the public, revise the documents. After all, Heroes are still being handed over!
    Glory to the Hero and Eternal Peace!
  13. kush62
    kush62 27 September 2013 12: 13 New
    +4
    Soviet snipers did not use any privileges during the Great Patriotic War.

    They had one privilege, to destroy the enemy. And they did it with dignity. Glory to the heroes, Eternal glory to the fallen defenders of the motherland !!!
  14. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 27 September 2013 12: 33 New
    +7
    Did not know about him. Yes, this is our war, and the heroes of this war are mostly unknown. Imagine how many people died heroically in these millstones, who did not dream of glory, but simply performed their duty to the Motherland?
  15. Zymran
    Zymran 27 September 2013 12: 47 New
    +4
    Our people had a lot of snipers, honor and glory to him.
  16. Danko
    Danko 27 September 2013 12: 58 New
    +3
    No, It's him, not Nomokonov. And he, too, was not given the Hero, although he had an account for 300.
  17. Danko
    Danko 27 September 2013 13: 57 New
    +6
    Thanks to the authors for the article, for recalling the hero Ibraim (Ybraim) Suleimenov. Only one very small inaccuracy: he is a native of the village - the district center - Saudakent of the Sarysu district of the Dzhambul region, where I come from. Certainly he was called up by the Sarysu RVC, just like my grandfather in 1942. My grandfather, one of the founders of the district, spent 3 years in denunciation as an “enemy of the people” because he knew Arabic letters. The then education commissioner Oraz Dzhandosov saved him. Grandfather after two wounds near Voronezh in 1943 was otkomissovan.
    One of the main streets in Taraz (formerly Dzhambul) is named after Suleimenov. In the common people as "Suleiman". The younger generation may not even know who he was when the streets were renamed every day in the 90s. Rulers may remember him for some anniversary, when they will need PR. Glory to the Heroes and all the fallen and forgotten unjust! Truly heroic was our Soviet people!
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 27 September 2013 18: 50 New
      11
      My grandfather from my mother’s side was also called from the Dzhambul region. More precisely, he himself volunteered, stealing the documents of his older brother. He had an unapproachable age, but the forgery did not notice the forgery, and so since 1941 my grandfather, who was not yet 16, went to war. He came to the front in the winter of 1941-42, at first he fought near Moscow, then liberated Leningrad.
      At first he fought as a marine (2 naval rifle brigades were formed in Kazakhstan), after the hospital he got into aviation, was a gunner on a plane, after the next hospital he fought as a sniper, he was a scout. In the OBD “Memorial” is listed as having died in the battles for the liberation of Kharkov in 1944, this commander considered that this time my grandfather would not survive after his wounds, but grandfather again survived to spite everyone) In Kharkov, by the way, it’s written on the mass grave name still.
      I met the victory in the Czech Republic. Then he fought with the Japanese.
      In the spring of 1945 he was introduced to the title of Hero of the Soviet Union. The grandfather, who was then 18-19 years old, in the joys of this news with his fighters opened the abandoned wine cellar in Prague, and for this he was punished - the performance for a high award was canceled. But still, he returned home with an armful of rewards.
      By the way, all his brothers also returned home with a bunch of awards. True, all without exception received many wounds. The brother, from whom my grandfather had stolen documents at one time to go to war, died due to complications with wounds 10 years after the war. Grandfather himself died in 1981, as the German shard that he wore all his life right in the heart (not joking) began to wander and something inside the body did damage.

      That generation was! And the war passed, and the flags were hoisted in foreign capitals, and rebuilt their country, and flew into space! And all this during the life of one generation.

      I heard a legend
      As if once
      This country was inhabited by giants.
      Like living
      Strange fate:
      Were ready for work and battle
      From lack
      Bread and meat
      They raved about Marx, Victory and Mars,
      Snow taiga
      Arctic gloomy,
      Bright stars over Baikonur
      Hot flame
      The bottomless bottomless ...
      They built mines, dams and blast furnaces.
      And they were mistaken
      And they won.
      Waiting for guests from an unthinkable distance.
      Through the cannonade
      Massacre of blood
      Rushed to collapse into tall grasses
      Blackened in the snow
      Into the water and into the clay ...
      Scarlet flag was hoisted over Berlin.
      We went from the collective farm
      Onion beds
      To the Olympics, Afghanistan, detente.
      Walked through patterns
      And the stencils
      They walked along carrying the planet
      Wrote in blood
      Good tale.
      Even their mistakes were gigantic.
      Believed, faith
      In the heart of cherishing
      In the infallibility of speeches from the Mausoleum,
      They knew that they were right
      Their sickle and hammer,
      They knew that the world was only split for a while,
      What is not forever
      Pain and sorrow ...

      But crushed. Alas, crushed ...
      Their descendants
      Timidly hiding
      In the musty silence of cabinet boxes
      Think standard
      They don’t rave about the distance
      Reduce credit lifelessly with debit
      Finely dream
      They rarely think ...
      There is nothing left of their ancestors in them.

      Poems by Alexei Guskov.
  18. Danko
    Danko 27 September 2013 14: 20 New
    +1
    Quote: Sergeant
    And where are his children, grandchildren. It is necessary to collect documents for Comrade Nazarbayev.
    Do not forget.
    It is necessary to make a full-length film.
    It is necessary that today's youth see this example of Heroism and Courage, selfless love for the Motherland and brotherhood between the Kazakh and Russian peoples.
    It is a sin to forget those who did not spare life for us, living now


    I don’t know about the film, I didn’t watch it, even if I was. Maybe something was filming a regional TV. He had an only daughter, if I am not mistaken, and lived in the city of Karatau. As my parents told me, she died 5-6 years ago. She had children, and 99% of the fact that they have a different surname (by father). Other relatives seem to be in the area.
  19. zavesa01
    zavesa01 27 September 2013 14: 35 New
    +1
    Mikhail Surkov generally LEGEND. And who heard about him? ovskie heroes closer. But Surkov is just a peasant.
  20. Yeraz
    Yeraz 27 September 2013 15: 03 New
    +5
    Glory to the worthy son of Kazakhstan !!!!
    1. alone
      alone 27 September 2013 23: 03 New
      +3
      worthy son of his people.VENIUM MEMORY. ALL THEY ARE IN OUR HEARTS hi
  21. washi
    washi 27 September 2013 15: 11 New
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    Each nationality found its application in World War II. It was and will be - national traditions. If the Kazakhs, Yakuts, Chukchi, Udegeys and others shoot well and they express individualism and a sense of nature - snipers, Uzbeks, Tajiks - hard work and cooking - the rear units.
    And those who have collectivism (community) in the blood - those on the front line and suffer the greatest losses. There are still egoists. These are the Caucasian peoples. There was an attempt to create Caucasian divisions. But they do not know how to fight. They know how to steal and rob. As a result, the lost territories and battalions of the Caucasian peoples are on the side of the Nazis.
    This is not inciting international hatred. These are the facts.
    Azerbaijanis even fought in separate platoons, while Georgians and Armenians surrendered.
    Just in spite of the difference in religion, we have a community - collectivism, and not tribal relations.
    Until a certain time, Azerbaijan and Iran were dominated not by Islam, but by Zoroastrianism.
    The Caucasus generally adopted Christianity before Rus. Only because of this can we accept the theory of the forced planting of Christianity in Russia (the so-called Tatar-Mongol yoke). See how Islam is now spreading. And what kind of Christianity did we want to introduce if the Khazars (the ancestors of Ukrainians according to their history) preached Judaism?
    Byzantine? There is the same pedagogy as in Rome. Or maybe we have our own religion, which they tried (and destroyed) during the split?
  22. NOMAD
    NOMAD 27 September 2013 18: 06 New
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    Of course, war was a great test for all nationalities! And if there are forgotten heroes, then you need to at least remember them! My grandfather died in December 1941 near Tula - protecting the Moscow direction! Did he really know that the union would be destroyed by the children of those for whom they perished and defended the united homeland of the USSR! Moscow was a symbol of the fatherland, homeland! And remembering Kazakh Kashkarbayev, you need to remember that they accomplished this feat together with a sergeant, a Russian by nationality, Muratov! They were the first to hoist the red flag on the Reichstag! On April 28, during the most fierce battles! Only a country like the USSR could defeat fascism! Everlasting memory of war heroes!
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 27 September 2013 18: 26 New
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      Quote: NOMAD
      And remembering Kazakh Kashkarbayev, you need to remember that they accomplished this feat together with a sergeant, a Russian by nationality, Muratov!

      I apologize, but I need to correct it - the name of the second hero Bulatov. Grigory Bulatov.
      1. Beck
        Beck 27 September 2013 18: 58 New
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        Quote: Marek Rozny
        I apologize, but I need to correct it - the name of the second hero Bulatov. Grigory Bulatov.


        And to attach the Victory Banner higher, Grigory Bulatov stood on the shoulders of Rakhimzhan Koshkarbayev, the lieutenant (commander of the intelligence platoon).
  23. Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 27 September 2013 18: 35 New
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    The most accurate sniper was the tungus. I don’t remember his last name (sorry). On his account, according to official figures, about 390 fascists. But his co-workers say he served as a simple soldier before becoming a sniper, and there he constantly went into the "secret" and shot off officers and soldiers of the German army. According to unofficial data, he has about 1100 fascists. He went through the whole war, returned home. And he, too, was not assigned a Hero. He worked after the war on the collective farm.
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  25. Beck
    Beck 27 September 2013 19: 16 New
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    FROM ALL THE HEART THANKS All FOR WARM WORDS TO THE ADDRESS OF MY LAND.

    AND THESE WORDS RELATED TO ALL WINNERS.

    In addition, no offense to other visitors, I also note representatives of fraternal Azerbaijan - Ulken rakhmet sizge (Thank you very much).
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 27 September 2013 19: 21 New
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      I just wanted to write something like that) Beck, I subscribe to your every word.
      Thank you all very much.

      People like the hero of this article unite us all even after time, perestroika and cataclysms. We must try to be like them so that our descendants can be proud of the achievements of our generation.

      Z.Y. Azerbaijan - a fiery salute from me personally)
  26. NOMAD
    NOMAD 27 September 2013 20: 13 New
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    Do not forget the soldiers of Kazakhstan who defended Moscow in my 101 and 102 divisions! By the way, 101 was mono-ethnic for 95 percent, it consisted of ethnic Kazakhs !!! It should be noted that in recognition of the merits of Soviet sailors from Kazakhstan who distinguished themselves in the war on cruiser Kirov, sponsored by Kazakhstan, later they mostly called people from Kazakhstan !!! We must remember that the Russian people suffered the most in this war and it was he who endured the main burden and deprivation in this war !!!
  27. repytw
    repytw 27 September 2013 20: 49 New
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    Both meanness and heroism have no nationality, for me they are all heroes because they defended our common Motherland and it is bad that they are now divided between states.
  28. Day 11
    Day 11 27 September 2013 22: 49 New
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    J.E. Tulaev is drilled by nationality. In the Red Army since 1942. In the army since March 1942. A sniper of the 580th Infantry Regiment (188th Infantry Division, 27th Army, North-Western Front) Sergeant Zhambyl Tulaev from May to November 1942 destroyed 262 enemy soldiers and officers. He trained 30 snipers. In total, during the hostilities destroyed 313 soldiers and officers of the enemy. The sniper trained by him destroyed 1442 enemy soldiers and officers. February 14, 1943 for exemplary performance of combat missions of command on the front of the struggle against the German invaders and the courage and heroism shown to the foreman Zh.E. Tulaev was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union with the awarding of the Order of Lenin and the Gold Star medal. Here is someone to be proud of! I, as an officer, measure everything with statistics and among the Hans were
  29. Day 11
    Day 11 27 September 2013 22: 57 New
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    And here you guys are on the other side. German snipers from the 1st German Goering tank parachute division
  30. rodevaan
    rodevaan 28 September 2013 04: 02 New
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    “Why did I become a sniper? I started the war near Moscow. I saw the shot collective farmers, collective farmers and their children. I entered the houses, and people told me how the Nazis mocked them. I saw grief, suffering in every house ... Even now I can’t calmly feel .. It was hard for me to see this. I vowed in those days to become a sniper. Why did I defend Moscow? I am Kazakh, my Kazakhstan is far from Moscow. But Moscow is the capital of our entire Union. She and my capital. That is why I defended Moscow. But that's not all. I thought: if the fascists are not stopped and destroyed, they can reach my native Kazakhstan. I will not calm down until at least one Hitlerite stomps our land. I destroyed 239 fascists. I urge you to bring death to the invaders. ”

    - The words of this Soviet, OUR, even Russian people. Eh, if now all our people in our country would have the same views and aspirations as this war hero, and not only in war, but also in government, in everyday peaceful life, our country would be inaccessible and in the military and in the economic and human potentials, not only for some tattered fascists, but for the whole world, led by a decayed nursery of dermocracy ....
    And so far, alas, I have to admit that such views are of an insignificant number of people, on which our country itself is still holding on ... The rest crawl in front of Westerners, Fritz or stupid frogmen, but shout their country with the last words .... And by the way, we’re sitting in the ass and therefore, too.
  31. beifall
    beifall 28 September 2013 06: 49 New
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    Kaharman! Recently, I accidentally found out that our scouts are armed with British sniper rifles - very pleased!
    1. Starshina wmf
      Starshina wmf 28 September 2013 13: 13 New
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      What made you happy? If you use either German, Israeli or old Soviet SVD. About SVD, if you shoot for yourself, it’s better in my opinion not. Although something needs to be improved.
  32. sillsas
    sillsas 4 October 2013 08: 52 New
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    The limit was the highest award!