Ibraim Suleimenov - steppe shooter

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Ibraim Suleimenov - steppe shooterIn the Western armies, snipers are cherished and strongly encouraged, they have an additional ration, increased pay, they do not go on the attack as ordinary soldiers. Soviet snipers did not enjoy any privileges during the Great Patriotic War. They fought without standing out from the general system, freeing the Motherland from the enemy. It happened that they participated in battles along with infantry, in their hands - an automatic rifle, on the back - a sniper rifle. They were sent ahead of their positions, to the battle hunt. But not only the sniper was hunting the enemy, and every minute the enemy was hunting him. And here someone who has more luck, who has a sharper eye and faster response, he will be the winner, he will remain to live.

About good snipers composed legends: Vasily Zaitsev, Nikolai Semenov, Peter Osadchy. And here is another undeservedly forgotten name: Ibrahim Suleimenov, a Kazakh soldier, one of the best snipers of the Great Patriotic War. He was born in 1908, in the village of Sarysu, Dzhambul region. Before the war, he worked as a tractor driver, in his free time he loved to hunt with an old rifle. In the 1941, in the fall, he was drafted into the Red Army. How did he become a sniper? Very simple. One day, the commander asked the young warriors who among them wanted to become a sniper. Ibrahim first out of order. “Hunter?” Asked the commander. "Hunter. In the steppe on wild animals hunted. And the fascist is also a beast. ” Ibrahim got a sniper rifle and beat the Nazis out of it mercilessly. He served in the 100-th separate rifle Kazakh brigade, formed in Almaty. Low-growth, calm, with a sly soldier, a kind of Kazakh Vasily Terkin, quickly gained credibility among fellow soldiers.

The brigade received baptism of fire in the autumn of 1942 near the city of Rzhev. There, Ibraim Suleimenov began his short but vivid soldier's career. In general, from the Kazakhs, with their keen eyesight of the steppe, on the front, excellent gunners, machine gunners, snipers, navy - observers. Marked arrows distinguished themselves near Rzhev: Bergebay Abdikarimov, who destroyed 48 fascists, Zamanbek Mataev - 34, Petr Osadchiy - 28. Ibraim Suleimenov destroyed 39 officers and soldiers of the enemy. Then the brigade was thrown under the Great Luke, where there were fierce battles. In these battles, Ibraim Suleimenov brought the personal score to 150 fascists.

At the army rally of snipers in the summer of 1943, under the Great Bows, the famous sniper Suleimenov spoke. He said: “Why did I become a sniper? I started a war near Moscow. I saw the executed collective farmers, collective farmers and their children. I entered the houses, and people told me how the Hitlerites scoffed at them. I saw grief, suffering in every home ... I still cannot feel calm now .. It has become hard for me to see it. I swore in those days to become a sniper. Why did I defend Moscow? I am Kazakh, my Kazakhstan is far from Moscow. But Moscow is the capital of our entire Union. She and my capital. That is why I defended Moscow. But that's not all. I thought: if the fascists are not stopped and not destroyed, they can reach my native Kazakhstan. I will not rest until one Hitlerite tramples our land. I destroyed the 239 fascists. I urge you to bear the death of the invaders. "

Ibragim Suleimenov fulfilled his oath with honor. By November 1943, his rifle struck down 239 enemy soldiers and officers. They wrote about him in the newspapers, the Kazakh poet Jambul dedicated poems to him, the glory about him thundered throughout the army. The fascists were terribly afraid of the “steppe arrow,” as they called the Kazakh warrior. There are several cases in which the soldiers of the German army refused to withdraw to positions for fear of hitting the front sight of the famous sniper. The hunt began for foreman Suleimenov. The enemy has bombed any suspicious place where a sniper could hide. The best fascist sniper tried to destroy him, but luck did not leave the brave warrior, and combat fights always ended in his favor.

16 November 1943, a fierce battle broke out at the height of 173,3 at the Izocha station, west of Nevel. On the left flank of the height was firing from a machine gun Manshuk Mametova, on the right fielding three trenches at once, Ibrahim Suleimenov was stationed. In the two extreme he left a rifle, and on average a machine gun and two grenades. As soon as the enemy caught his eye, he immediately smashed him with a sniper rifle. Two attacks of the enemy were repulsed. Ibrahim destroyed 12 fascists. At this time, our infantrymen ran out of ammunition. The soldiers began to retreat. By evening, only Manshuk Mametova and Ibrahim Suleimenov remained at the height, covering the retreat of their comrades. Manshuk's machine gun was already silent, the cries of “Hurray!” Of fellow soldiers were already coming to the rescue, but the ammunition ran out and the brave foreman rushed to hand-to-hand ... Then an enemy bullet overtook him.

After the battle in two trenches Ibraima did not find a single patron. The rifle and machine gun were broken, and the rifle in the third trench remained lying on the parapet, muzzle facing the enemy. Around counted over 30 enemy corpses. His score Ibrahim Suleimenov brought to 289.

The brigade for this fight presented posthumously Manshuk Mametova and Ibraim Suleimenov to the title of Hero of the Soviet Union. The army and the front approved these views. There remained only a word for Moscow, the title of Hero claimed in the government. But in Moscow decided differently. Manshuk Mametova was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union (posthumously), and Ibrahima Suleimenov was awarded the Order of Lenin. Of course, this is a high reward, but still - not the Star of the Hero. The fact remains. One of the best warriors was not awarded the highest award of the country. If you give an assessment over time, then Ibrahim Suleimenov is indeed one of the best snipers in the world. And it is never too late to award the Hero the reward he deserves!
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  1. +22
    27 September 2013 08: 05
    Hero of the Soviet Union still not given? Here are the goons.
    1. malikszh
      +21
      27 September 2013 08: 43
      The Union has been gone for 20 years! But the Hero of Kazakhstan was not given a shame to the Government!
      1. +18
        27 September 2013 10: 03
        Could give the Hero of Russia. Deserved the same. So what, that now different countries.
        1. malikszh
          +6
          27 September 2013 19: 27
          Russia doesn’t have such heroes, for example Mikhail Ilyich Surkov destroyed 702 Germans, still did not receive the title of a hero, Kazakhstan should award!
      2. +6
        27 September 2013 11: 47
        Honor, praise and eternal memory to the Heroes. I don’t remember when, but there was a film dedicated to Manshuk Mametova, if I’m not mistaken, "Song of Manshuk". It would not be bad for such films to be periodically shown on TV, and at the best possible time. But our TV prefers Petrosyans, comedies and other miscarriages.
        Unfortunately, the reward is far from always finding the real Heroes. And examples of each forum member can lead a lot.
        Sincerely.
      3. bond_es
        0
        27 September 2013 14: 24
        so they do not study history. they would saw and saw the country on metal.)
      4. Marek Rozny
        +4
        27 September 2013 18: 19
        They are not awarded twice for the same feat. This is an obstacle.

        Z.Y. Although similar precedents in the history of Russia have already been.
    2. +6
      27 September 2013 11: 25
      given or not - bow to his feat
    3. Sgt.
      +9
      27 September 2013 13: 16
      And where are his children, grandchildren. It is necessary to collect documents for Comrade Nazarbayev.
      Do not forget.
      It is necessary to make a full-length film.
      It is necessary that today's youth see this example of Heroism and Courage, selfless love for the Motherland and brotherhood between the Kazakh and Russian peoples.
      It is a sin to forget those who did not spare life for us, living now
    4. Yarbay
      +13
      27 September 2013 14: 07
      Quote: Lindon
      Hero of the Soviet Union still not given? Here are the goons.

      And what did Baurzhan Mamyshuly be given the Hero of the Soviet Union !! it was only in the year 90, and then they gave thanks to Nazarbayev!
      A man whose tactics were studied and is being studied at the most prestigious academies of the world, one of the regiments of the Cuban army bears his name, in Israel among the officers it is obligatory to familiarize him with his book even the rank of general was not given.
  2. +25
    27 September 2013 08: 08
    Honor and praise to the brotherly Kazakh people who brought up such Heroes!
    1. +20
      27 September 2013 08: 23
      Bright memory to all heroes. soldier
      Here is another info, the legend of sniper Tleugali Abdibekov

      1. Marek Rozny
        +6
        27 September 2013 19: 17
        In addition to Abdibekov, one can also recall Galym Koishybaev, who was also not given the title of Hero.

        "... Sergeant Koishibaev was demobilized from injury and returned home to his native Kurmangazy orchestra of folk instruments, became an honored artist of the republic, raised many students, teaching them to play the dombra as masterly as he could himself.
        22 years after the end of the war, he was called up to the draft board.
        “Do you know that even for half your personal account, snipers at the front represented the rank of Hero of the Soviet Union?” asked the military commissar, who himself had gone through the war.
        “I know,” said Koyshibaev. “The commanders also introduced me, but something did not work out, and asking at that time was not accepted.” And there was no time to think about it, it was necessary to fight ...

        AWARD SHEET.
        Koyshibaev Galim, reserve sergeant, division commander of the 1280th Infantry Regiment of the 391st Infantry Division for heroic deeds committed during the Great Patriotic War, and wounded, deserves the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.
        Military Commissioner of the Kazakh SSR General Baikenov.
        The head of the political department, Colonel Gulbas.
        July 19 1967 year.


        The title of GSS was not given.
    2. Hudo
      +10
      27 September 2013 09: 11
      Quote: xetai9977
      Honor and praise to the brotherly Kazakh people who brought up such Heroes!


      Brave and proud people! They did not consider it possible for themselves to leave their positions by covering the unit’s withdrawal. I’m reading an article for my children, let them know what kind of people they need to take as an example.
      1. +9
        27 September 2013 13: 53
        In general, from the Kazakhs, with their keen eyesight on the steppes, excellent gunners, machine gunners, snipers were obtained at the front, observers in the navy.


        There is such a feature of vision among the steppes.
        1. Cpa
          +3
          27 September 2013 14: 49
          Quote: hommer
          There is such a feature of vision among the steppes.

          "The Asian eye is a diamond!"
  3. slacker
    +1
    27 September 2013 08: 37
    239 Nazis killed - a great indicator! The hero deserved without question.
    1. +3
      27 September 2013 10: 10
      Quote: Loafer
      239 Nazis killed

      More attentively.
      Ibraim Suleimenov brought his score to 289
      .
      1. Aydar
        +5
        27 September 2013 13: 46
        The "slacker" in general is not very attentive to such trifles, in the last topic he shed bitter tears, they say Russian is closer to the Germans, and the Turks are deceitful because the Germans do not like them, - they say they will betray them at every opportunity and generally need to unite the Germans and Russians - that's Paradise life will come.
  4. +13
    27 September 2013 08: 37
    And Rakhimzhan Koshkarbayev-Kazakh, one of those who set the banner over the Reichstag.

    The titles of the Hero of the Soviet Union were awarded to the sons and daughters of all the peoples of the USSR, including:

    8182 Russians, 2072 Ukrainians, 311 Belarusians, 161 Tatars, 108 Jews, 96 Kazakhs, 91 Georgians, 90 Armenians, 69 Uzbeks, 61 Mordvinians, 44 Chuvash, 43 Azerbaijanis, 39 Bashkirs, 32 Ossetians, 18 Maris, 18 Turkmens, 15 Lithuanians , 14 Tajiks, 13 Latvians, 12 Kyrgyz, 10 Komi, 10 Udmurts, 9 Estonians, 9 Karelians, 8 Kalmyks, 7 Kabardins, 6 Adyghes, 5 Abkhazians, 3 Yakuts and representatives of many other nationalities.

    And here is a more detailed and detailed statistics on the peoples of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War:
    http://www.ethnoinfo.ru/narody-sssr-v-vojne/314-statistika
    1. Asan Ata
      +8
      27 September 2013 12: 23
      Several years ago, Putin officially confirmed that it was Koshkarbayev who was the first to hoist the flag on the Reichstag. The basis was classified information found in the archives. Egorov and Kantaria were probably also dashing guys, but they were "appointed".
      1. Marek Rozny
        +6
        27 September 2013 18: 18
        Correct, if possible. It was not Putin himself who confirmed, but the Russian Ministry of Defense recognized that the first Red flag on the Reichstag was hoisted by Rakhimzhan Koshkarbayev and Grigory Bulatov together. This is evidenced by the official divisional reports of those days.
    2. Marek Rozny
      +4
      27 September 2013 19: 05
      Quote: Floock
      96 Kazakhs

      several more Kazakhs are not included here. Some were recorded as "Uzbeks", although they declared themselves Kazakhs (Sabir Rakhimov, Rasul Isetov, Plis Nurpeisov). In addition, several people received awards only recently (posthumously) - Bauyrzhan Momyshuly and Baktyoraz Beysekbaev.

      In addition to those who received awards for exploits during the Second World War, there are also Kazakhs who received the title of Hero of the USSR and the Russian Federation for Afghanistan and Chechnya - Kaiyrgeldy Maidanov (by the way, he is the only one in history who received both the title of Hero of the USSR and the title of Hero of Russia for military services), Shamil Kokinaev, Azamat Tasimov, Rafik Kadyrbulatov, Zhantas Zholdinov. All of them received the title of Hero of Russia posthumously, except for Shamil Kokinaev. By the way, he was twice represented in this title.

      Well, the astronauts still.
  5. malikszh
    +16
    27 September 2013 08: 40
    there are many Kazakhs worthy of the title of hero of the USSR, but why doesn’t our government give the title of hero of Kazakhstan? compared with Russia, the hero received 108 veterans and we have only 6 veterans !!! Shame on the government.
    1. Asan Ata
      +3
      27 September 2013 12: 25
      Our government and the NAS personally give orders and medals to 99% to officials. Alas.
      1. Aydar
        +3
        27 September 2013 13: 48
        "Awards" from NAS are worthy of "heroes".
  6. +7
    27 September 2013 10: 05
    Just look at his face. How much courage and, at the same time, simplicity. A real folk warrior. It is a pity that the Hero did not live to victory.
    ..
    And about Manshuk a film was shot in the USSR: "Song of Manshuk".
  7. 0
    27 September 2013 10: 37
    But isn’t the first photo a sniper Semyon Nokomonov?
    1. Marek Rozny
      +6
      27 September 2013 18: 21
      no. this is Suleimenov.
  8. +2
    27 September 2013 10: 43
    Why did I defend Moscow? I am Kazakh, my Kazakhstan is far from Moscow. But Moscow is the capital of our entire Union. She and my capital.
    You can’t say better. Eternal memory to the heroes.hi
  9. +8
    27 September 2013 10: 45
    Thanks to this grandfather for the victory!
    1. Hudo
      +1
      27 September 2013 17: 50
      Next time, capitalize the word "Victory". In the meantime, you "+" for remembering your (and our) hero-grandfather.
  10. +2
    27 September 2013 11: 25
    The article is very good, it revives glorious names and events in the life of the people and the country. I was preparing a series of stories about the forgotten hero, one is called "And one is also a warrior." This fully applies to our hero. The lack of a coordinated leadership of the troops in the first period of the war did not allow to launch a sniper hunt for the Nazis when they went into the attack at full height. Only later did they begin to analyze and evaluate that a sniper squad could stop an infantry battalion's advance. A trained sniper makes an aimed 6-8 rounds per minute during an enemy attack. So count how many of these monsters could be destroyed near Leningrad, for example, when they were advancing at full height or when the head of a fascist was sticking out of the tank hatch on the march. Having then destroyed 150 thousand Nazis near Leningrad with snipers from the 600 thousandth Army grouping "North", we would have avoided that tragedy
  11. Beck
    +5
    27 September 2013 11: 46
    GLORY, GLORY TO HEROES!

    But always one depressed me. And in documentary sources, and in fiction, of that time, too often our valiant warriors happened this way;

    At this time, our infantry ran out of ammunition. The soldiers began to withdraw.

    But the cartridges ran out, and the brave foreman rushed hand to hand ...


    How did it happen? This is how many soldiers died without cartridges and how many subsequently lives did not spoil. I think the country had cartridges. I think that the rear, quartermaster services didn’t work something right.
    1. +2
      27 September 2013 12: 08
      As in the First World War, the indicator for the military leaders remained - "economy of ammunition". I took something, while saving 2-3 sets, or even a train of ammunition - for, get a reward, and what is the maddening loss is the "estimated loss of personnel." How many wartime ammunition have been stored in warehouses until now? In the book of academician A.N. Krylov, "My Memories" provides an example of planning the purchase of ammunition before the First World War, I remember the exact quote, but something like this, "for each gun, 500 rounds, for a rifle, 5000 rounds, one of the councilors (Bulgarian) said that if for each cannon there will be 5000 rounds, then 500 rounds will be enough for a rifle, but who will listen to some little brother. " It was based on the experience of the Balkan Wars before WWI, in which the Russians participated, but as volunteers. Sincerely.
    2. +2
      27 September 2013 12: 13
      Of course that's right, you're right. But there are exceptional circumstances, although the war itself is already an exception. But there are a lot of complaints about the rear officers and quartermasters, and their guilt was not always well-deserved.
    3. +2
      27 September 2013 12: 23
      They are heavy, ammunition. In the rear, people were dying right behind the machine to "refine", but how can they be delivered to the soldier? It is now in every piece of iron a motor, but then ... The logistics of our front is some kind of fantasy. I personally believe that the supply of our troops in those conditions was somewhere beyond the realm of possibility, a kind of miracle was performed. But this miracle, no doubt, was not enough. THERE WAS NO transport capacity in abundance, it simply was not. And how much can you carry on the hump? "It's still not enough, but I won't raise it anymore."
      It’s free now to curse the quartermasters who dragged the warehouses to the border itself, so the Germans got it. But only who didn’t know how limited the transport capacities were, who could count on how many such short kilometers it was possible to transport all of this with the existing scanty fleet of vehicles and endless, but such load-lifting carts ... This is not a flaw. Did not make it...
      1. +1
        27 September 2013 13: 33
        Yes, the supply of troops was going to the limit, or so. But in "Memoirs and Reflections" Zhukov mentioned a report to Stalin after the attack on Berlin, how many echelons of artillery ammunition had been saved. Look at the history of the war, the number of soldiers killed in this operation. You cannot save on the lives of soldiers !!! This cannot be overridden and justified by the costs and savings of ammunition. Sincerely.
        1. Cpa
          +3
          27 September 2013 14: 47
          The situation has changed little since then, our warriors in Chechnya constantly lacked smoke, light rockets, grenades for grenade launchers, camouflage suits, felt boots brought in two days later lying in the snow, cartridges for a machine gun in zinc (although they could put a fighter in the rear to equip ribbons) .Pro laughter in general, they don’t even pull on exercises. It's amazing how patient our fighters are ..
          And thanks to the Kazakh sniper, hero, although they didn’t give it. Relatives themselves will not ask for it; it is necessary to initiate historical and military clubs for this, so that the descendants are proud and strive to correspond. And add their names to the list of heroes on the Mount of Worship!
        2. Beck
          +6
          27 September 2013 18: 46
          Quote: vlad_pr
          in "Reminiscences and Reflections" Zhukov mentioned a report to Stalin after the attack on Berlin, how many echelons of artillery ammunition had been saved.


          I will continue a little.

          Marshal Vasilevsky was the chief of the General Staff throughout the war. At the end of the war, probably not to be only a staffer in history, he was entrusted with the Koenigsberg operation, it seems without interruption from his main position.

          And Vasilevsky used his official position. I don’t remember how much, but the artillery barrels per kilometer of the front, during the Koenigsberg operation, was the largest in the entire war. And the artillery ammunition on the barrel was also the largest.

          Koenigsberg itself was almost completely destroyed. According to the recollections of the German staff officers, when they rose from the staff cellars with errands, they lost their orientation on the surface. Everything was in ruins, piles of broken bricks, streets, a strass, as such did not exist, and where that strass or another they could not make out.
    4. In the book
      0
      27 September 2013 15: 41
      Yes, it’s a shame that our mountain commanders used soldiers as cannon fodder. When the right-bank Ukraine was liberated, field military commissariats marched along with regular troops and immediately recruited young men into the army to liberate the Nazis with a piece of brick and with sticks (autumn 1943), armed and seated in trenches. How many lives have been destroyed.
  12. +2
    27 September 2013 12: 10
    But among people he is a REAL HERO! Although not with the Golden Star, although it is necessary to hand it over to relatives (I hope someone has a hero in their relatives), raise the public, revise the documents. After all, Heroes are still being handed over!
    Glory to the Hero and Eternal Peace!
  13. +4
    27 September 2013 12: 13
    Soviet snipers did not use any privileges during the Great Patriotic War.

    They had one privilege, to destroy the enemy. And they did it with dignity. Glory to the heroes, Eternal glory to the fallen defenders of the motherland !!!
  14. Asan Ata
    +7
    27 September 2013 12: 33
    Did not know about him. Yes, this is our war, and the heroes of this war are mostly unknown. Imagine how many people died heroically in these millstones, who did not dream of glory, but simply performed their duty to the Motherland?
  15. +4
    27 September 2013 12: 47
    Our people had a lot of snipers, honor and glory to him.
  16. Danko
    +3
    27 September 2013 12: 58
    No, It's him, not Nomokonov. And he, too, was not given the Hero, although he had an account for 300.
  17. Danko
    +6
    27 September 2013 13: 57
    Thanks to the authors for the article, for remembering the hero Ibraim (Ybraim) Suleimenov. There is only one very small inaccuracy: he is a native of the village - regional center - Saudakent, Sarysu district of the Dzhambul region, where I come from. Surely he was called by the Sarysu RVC, like my grandfather in 1942. My grandfather is one of the founders of the region, and he was denounced for 3 years as an "enemy of the people" because he knew Arabic letters. He was saved by the then Commissar of Education Oraz Dzhandosov. Grandfather, after two wounds near Voronezh in 1943, was discharged.
    One of the central streets in Taraz (formerly Dzhambul) is named after Suleimenov. In common people as "Suleiman". The younger generation may not even know who he was when the streets were renamed every day in the 90s. The rulers may remember about him for some anniversary, when they need PR. Glory to the Heroes and all those who have fallen and forgotten are unfair! Our Soviet people were truly heroic!
    1. Marek Rozny
      +11
      27 September 2013 18: 50
      My grandfather from my mother’s side was also called from the Dzhambul region. More precisely, he himself volunteered, stealing the documents of his older brother. He had an unapproachable age, but the forgery did not notice the forgery, and so since 1941 my grandfather, who was not yet 16, went to war. He came to the front in the winter of 1941-42, at first he fought near Moscow, then liberated Leningrad.
      First, he fought as a marine (2 naval rifle brigades were formed in Kazakhstan), after the hospital he got into the aviation, was a shooter in an airplane, after the next hospital he fought as a sniper, was a scout. In the WBS "Memorial" is listed as killed in 1944 in the battles for the liberation of Kharkov, it was the commander who thought that this time my grandfather would not survive after the injuries, but the grandfather again out of spite of everything survived) In Kharkov, by the way, on the mass grave is written his name so far.
      I met the victory in the Czech Republic. Then he fought with the Japanese.
      In the spring of 1945 he was introduced to the title of Hero of the Soviet Union. The grandfather, who was then 18-19 years old, in the joys of this news with his fighters opened the abandoned wine cellar in Prague, and for this he was punished - the performance for a high award was canceled. But still, he returned home with an armful of rewards.
      By the way, all his brothers also returned home with a bunch of awards. True, all without exception received many wounds. The brother, from whom my grandfather had stolen documents at one time to go to war, died due to complications with wounds 10 years after the war. Grandfather himself died in 1981, as the German shard that he wore all his life right in the heart (not joking) began to wander and something inside the body did damage.

      That generation was! And the war passed, and the flags were hoisted in foreign capitals, and rebuilt their country, and flew into space! And all this during the life of one generation.

      I heard a legend
      As if once
      This country was inhabited by giants.
      Like living
      Strange fate:
      Were ready for work and battle
      From lack
      Bread and meat
      They raved about Marx, Victory and Mars,
      Snow taiga
      Arctic gloomy,
      Bright stars over Baikonur
      Hot flame
      The bottomless bottomless ...
      They built mines, dams and blast furnaces.
      And they were mistaken
      And they won.
      Waiting for guests from an unthinkable distance.
      Through the cannonade
      Massacre of blood
      Rushed to collapse into tall grasses
      Blackened in the snow
      Into the water and into the clay ...
      Scarlet flag was hoisted over Berlin.
      We went from the collective farm
      Onion beds
      To the Olympics, Afghanistan, detente.
      Walked through patterns
      And the stencils
      They walked along carrying the planet
      Wrote in blood
      Good tale.
      Even their mistakes were gigantic.
      Believed, faith
      In the heart of cherishing
      In the infallibility of speeches from the Mausoleum,
      They knew that they were right
      Their sickle and hammer,
      They knew that the world was only split for a while,
      What is not forever
      Pain and sorrow ...

      But crushed. Alas, crushed ...
      Their descendants
      Timidly hiding
      In the musty silence of cabinet boxes
      Think standard
      They don’t rave about the distance
      Reduce credit lifelessly with debit
      Finely dream
      They rarely think ...
      There is nothing left of their ancestors in them.

      Poems by Alexei Guskov.
  18. Danko
    +1
    27 September 2013 14: 20
    Quote: Sergeant
    And where are his children, grandchildren. It is necessary to collect documents for Comrade Nazarbayev.
    Do not forget.
    It is necessary to make a full-length film.
    It is necessary that today's youth see this example of Heroism and Courage, selfless love for the Motherland and brotherhood between the Kazakh and Russian peoples.
    It is a sin to forget those who did not spare life for us, living now


    I don’t know about the film, I didn’t watch it, even if I was. Maybe something was filming a regional TV. He had an only daughter, if I am not mistaken, and lived in the city of Karatau. As my parents told me, she died 5-6 years ago. She had children, and 99% of the fact that they have a different surname (by father). Other relatives seem to be in the area.
  19. zavesa01
    +1
    27 September 2013 14: 35
    Mikhail Surkov generally LEGEND. And who heard about him? ovskie heroes closer. But Surkov is just a peasant.
  20. +5
    27 September 2013 15: 03
    Glory to the worthy son of Kazakhstan !!!!
    1. +3
      27 September 2013 23: 03
      worthy son of his people.VENIUM MEMORY. ALL THEY ARE IN OUR HEARTS hi
  21. 0
    27 September 2013 15: 11
    Each nationality found its application in World War II. It was and will be - national traditions. If the Kazakhs, Yakuts, Chukchi, Udegeys and others shoot well and they express individualism and a sense of nature - snipers, Uzbeks, Tajiks - hard work and cooking - the rear units.
    And those who have collectivism (community) in the blood - those on the front line and suffer the greatest losses. There are still egoists. These are the Caucasian peoples. There was an attempt to create Caucasian divisions. But they do not know how to fight. They know how to steal and rob. As a result, the lost territories and battalions of the Caucasian peoples are on the side of the Nazis.
    This is not inciting international hatred. These are the facts.
    Azerbaijanis even fought in separate platoons, while Georgians and Armenians surrendered.
    Just in spite of the difference in religion, we have a community - collectivism, and not tribal relations.
    Until a certain time, Azerbaijan and Iran were dominated not by Islam, but by Zoroastrianism.
    The Caucasus generally adopted Christianity before Rus. Only because of this can we accept the theory of the forced planting of Christianity in Russia (the so-called Tatar-Mongol yoke). See how Islam is now spreading. And what kind of Christianity did we want to introduce if the Khazars (the ancestors of Ukrainians according to their history) preached Judaism?
    Byzantine? There is the same pedagogy as in Rome. Or maybe we have our own religion, which they tried (and destroyed) during the split?
  22. NOMAD
    +4
    27 September 2013 18: 06
    Of course, war was a great test for all nationalities! And if there are forgotten heroes, then you need to at least remember them! My grandfather died in December 1941 near Tula - protecting the Moscow direction! Did he really know that the union would be destroyed by the children of those for whom they perished and defended the united homeland of the USSR! Moscow was a symbol of the fatherland, homeland! And remembering Kazakh Kashkarbayev, you need to remember that they accomplished this feat together with a sergeant, a Russian by nationality, Muratov! They were the first to hoist the red flag on the Reichstag! On April 28, during the most fierce battles! Only a country like the USSR could defeat fascism! Everlasting memory of war heroes!
    1. Marek Rozny
      +4
      27 September 2013 18: 26
      Quote: NOMAD
      And remembering Kazakh Kashkarbayev, you need to remember that they accomplished this feat together with a sergeant, a Russian by nationality, Muratov!

      I apologize, but I need to correct it - the name of the second hero Bulatov. Grigory Bulatov.
      1. Beck
        +4
        27 September 2013 18: 58
        Quote: Marek Rozny
        I apologize, but I need to correct it - the name of the second hero Bulatov. Grigory Bulatov.


        And to attach the Victory Banner higher, Grigory Bulatov stood on the shoulders of Rakhimzhan Koshkarbayev, the lieutenant (commander of the intelligence platoon).
  23. +1
    27 September 2013 18: 35
    The most accurate sniper was the Tungus. I don't remember his last name (sorry). According to official figures, he has about 390 fascists on his account. But his colleagues say, before becoming a sniper, he served as a simple soldier, and there he constantly went into “secret” and shot officers and soldiers of the German army. According to unofficial data, he has about 1100 fascists. He went through the whole war, returned home. And he, too, was not assigned a Hero. After the war he worked on a collective farm.
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  25. Beck
    +6
    27 September 2013 19: 16
    FROM ALL THE HEART THANKS All FOR WARM WORDS TO THE ADDRESS OF MY LAND.

    AND THESE WORDS RELATED TO ALL WINNERS.

    In addition, no offense to other visitors, I also note representatives of fraternal Azerbaijan - Ulken rakhmet sizge (Thank you very much).
    1. Marek Rozny
      +3
      27 September 2013 19: 21
      I just wanted to write something like that) Beck, I subscribe to your every word.
      Thank you all very much.

      People like the hero of this article unite us all even after time, perestroika and cataclysms. We must try to be like them so that our descendants can be proud of the achievements of our generation.

      Z.Y. Azerbaijan - a fiery salute from me personally)
  26. NOMAD
    +4
    27 September 2013 20: 13
    Do not forget the soldiers of Kazakhstan who defended Moscow in my 101 and 102 divisions! By the way, 101 was mono-ethnic for 95 percent, it consisted of ethnic Kazakhs !!! It should be noted that in recognition of the merits of Soviet sailors from Kazakhstan who distinguished themselves in the war on cruiser Kirov, sponsored by Kazakhstan, later they mostly called people from Kazakhstan !!! We must remember that the Russian people suffered the most in this war and it was he who endured the main burden and deprivation in this war !!!
  27. +2
    27 September 2013 20: 49
    Both meanness and heroism have no nationality, for me they are all heroes because they defended our common Motherland and it is bad that they are now divided between states.
  28. +3
    27 September 2013 22: 49
    J.E. Tulaev is drilled by nationality. In the Red Army since 1942. In the army since March 1942. A sniper of the 580th Infantry Regiment (188th Infantry Division, 27th Army, North-Western Front) Sergeant Zhambyl Tulaev from May to November 1942 destroyed 262 enemy soldiers and officers. He trained 30 snipers. In total, during the hostilities destroyed 313 soldiers and officers of the enemy. The sniper trained by him destroyed 1442 enemy soldiers and officers. February 14, 1943 for exemplary performance of combat missions of command on the front of the struggle against the German invaders and the courage and heroism shown to the foreman Zh.E. Tulaev was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union with the awarding of the Order of Lenin and the Gold Star medal. Here is someone to be proud of! I, as an officer, measure everything with statistics and among the Hans were
  29. 0
    27 September 2013 22: 57
    And here's the other side for you guys. German snipers from the 1st parachute-tank division "Hermann Goering"
  30. rodevaan
    +2
    28 September 2013 04: 02
    “Why did I become a sniper? I started the war near Moscow. I saw the shot collective farmers, collective farmers and their children. I entered the houses, and people told me how the Nazis mocked them. I saw grief, suffering in every house ... Even now I can’t calmly feel .. It was hard for me to see this. I vowed in those days to become a sniper. Why did I defend Moscow? I am Kazakh, my Kazakhstan is far from Moscow. But Moscow is the capital of our entire Union. She and my capital. That is why I defended Moscow. But that's not all. I thought: if the fascists are not stopped and destroyed, they can reach my native Kazakhstan. I will not calm down until at least one Hitlerite stomps our land. I destroyed 239 fascists. I urge you to bring death to the invaders. ”

    - The words of this Soviet, OUR, even Russian people. Eh, if now all our people in our country would have the same views and aspirations as this war hero, and not only in war, but also in government, in everyday peaceful life, our country would be inaccessible and in the military and in the economic and human potentials, not only for some tattered fascists, but for the whole world, led by a decayed nursery of dermocracy ....
    And so far, alas, I have to admit that such views are of an insignificant number of people, on which our country itself is still holding on ... The rest crawl in front of Westerners, Fritz or stupid frogmen, but shout their country with the last words .... And by the way, we’re sitting in the ass and therefore, too.
  31. fall
    +2
    28 September 2013 06: 49
    Kaharman! Recently, I accidentally found out that our scouts are armed with British sniper rifles - very pleased!
    1. +1
      28 September 2013 13: 13
      What made you happy? If you use either German, Israeli or old Soviet SVD. About SVD, if you shoot for yourself, it’s better in my opinion not. Although something needs to be improved.
  32. sillsas
    0
    4 October 2013 08: 52
    The limit was the highest award!