The investigation in the case of "Oboronservis" failed to obtain evidence on Serdyukov

Experts of the Investigative Committee could not obtain evidence from the defendants in the Oboronservis case against Anatoly Serdyukov. The main episodes of the charges against Evgenia Vasilyeva and Alexander Elkin may also not reach the court.

“We hoped to get direct evidence of Serdyukov’s participation in dubious transactions, but did not take into account a whole range of economic nuances. As a result, the ex-minister’s testimony could not be obtained, and there was almost no crime in the incriminated episodes,” the source said. News "in the Main Military Investigation Department (GVSU).

According to investigators, the “Oboronservis case” can repeat the fate of the “gambling case”. Episodes related to the activities of the general director of the Slavyanka company, Alexander Yelkin, may not go to court. The same applies to episodes related to Eugenia Vasilyeva.

“It is not clear now how to continue to draw up the main episode imputed to Yelkin, with the maintenance of the complex of buildings of the Ministry of Defense in Kolymazhny Lane. After checking the acts of acceptance of works and tender documentation, it turned out that not only the military was not harmed, but they still owed 20 million rubles, ”a source close to the investigation told the newspaper.

Unexcited case

The Oboronservis case has been dragging on for more than six months. 27 December 2012, the former head of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Anatoly Serdyukov, was summoned to the Investigative Committee for questioning in the Oboronservis case.

11 in March, the ex-minister answered questions from the TFR staff about construction work on the territory of a plot of land in the Volga delta. According to investigators, the work on the site was conducted by military personnel of one of the military units.

24 July SK questioned Serdyukov on the sale of the ensemble of the Tauride Palace in St. Petersburg.

19 of August, the Main Military Investigation Department (GVSU) of the Investigative Committee of Russia refused to initiate a criminal case, which could be former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov and former director of the Department of Education of the Defense Ministry Ekaterina Priezezhev.

Comments

[smiths xnumx]

All clear...

[Denis]

Quote: Kuznetsov 1977

All clear...

It is clear already LONG TIME, Someone doubted ??

[Andrey Yuryevich]

in general ... no one is obliged to abide by the law in this country, if you want to live beautifully, live! are you worse? join EP, vote correctly, and do what you want ...

[DEfindER]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

in general ... no one is obliged to abide by the law in this country, if you want to live beautifully, live!

The effectiveness of our judiciary tends to zero! Personally, I was convinced of this, sued the Tour Company, so they appealed three times to the court decisions in our favor, as a result of 2 years we are already suing and nothing good .. But then the matter didn’t even reach the indictment, the campaign itself must be checked by the IC the appearance of undeclared income among its employees ..

[Alexxeg73]

Well, and it is written: "... they did not take into account a number of economic nuances, As a result, it was not possible to get evidence against the ex-minister ..."

"Nuances" have already been transferred to offshores?

[Vadivak]

Quote: DEfindER

The effectiveness of our judiciary tends to zero!

Steal from Chubais or from Gazprom, then we'll see. Soldered by the most do not spoil, you can have no doubt.

[Yarosvet]

Quote: DEfindER

the campaign must be checked by the IC itself for the appearance of undeclared income among its employees ..

[Andrey Yuryevich]

if not fake, then I’m in full swing ...

[predator.3]

Quote: DEfindER

The effectiveness of our judiciary tends to zero! Personally, I was convinced of this, sued the Tour Company, so they appealed three times to the court decisions in our favor, as a result of 2 years we are already suing and nothing good .. But then the matter didn’t even reach the indictment, the campaign itself must be checked by the IC the appearance of undeclared income among its employees ..

The case of Serdyukov and PPZh Vasilievs will ruin the case, as they ruined the case of "gambling" prosecutors - as soon as the name of the son of the Prosecutor General Chaika surfaced.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

no, not SK dear definder, here globally you need to change everything ....

[kris]

for some reason it’s not even surprising.
gentlemen, lovers of Putin, explain everything that happens!

[DEfindER]

Quote: kris

explain everything that happens!

What can I explain here, we can only congratulate Anatoly Eduardovich on his victory, in the case of Serdyukov against the people of Russia ..

[Orik]

They will explain what remains? Just EXPLAIN. Let them hurry, and soon it will be necessary to explain what happened to the RAS and Russian science.

[aksakal]

Quote: kris

for some reason it’s not even surprising.
gentlemen, lovers of Putin, explain everything that happens!

- and what to explain?
Are you dissatisfied with something? try to decide against Putin according to the Syrian version - by the way, in this case you will be bombarded with billions, you will also become a billionaire. The sponsors who want to remove Putin no less than you want, you know, the location is also very well aware. You know the address of the American embassy, ​​I can even throw up the address of Udaltsov, he will only be glad to such assistants. Displeased terribly - what are you asking us? What good is our opinion from you? Go and act, along with those who plus you here, take with you.
By the way, with all that, the name of the President of the Russian Federation is capitalized, but Obama can be with a small one. Why on earth are you writing the other way around? And have you been given advantages for this? So, gentlemen of Formuchan, for these pluses to this gentleman, already repeatedly noted by Russophobic and anti-Russian statements, I ask you to speak. Honestly go out and justify your plus to this gentleman, we will talk about an unpleasant conversation.
So, your hatred of Serdyukov is so great that you are ready to become an anti-Russian, ready to become a Russophobe and a notorious revolutionary liberal just because Serdyukov was too tough for the Russian law enforcement system?
Let's do it without hasty conclusions. Firstly, ordinary witnesses were very clearly informed - you will show against Serdyukov - you do not live. If I were a witness - with all my pro-Russian character, I would humbly give those testimonies that some gloomy gentlemen of special forces would demand from me. I will not beat myself in the chest and swagger, because I have a family and children, and the protection of witnesses in Russia is as follows - well, look at Budanov. Let’s take it seriously - most of you would do the same. This commander has already served his legal term, nevertheless ... Then it would not be better if they didn’t sit down at all, there should be one punishment!
This is a sign of state weakness. We have never denied that the state is weak. When in Kazakhstan, for example, in a prestigious district of a city, a large developer successfully steps on the position of the maxillofacial STATE clinic, which was located in this prestigious district in its earliest times in the early Soviet era, this is also a clear sign of the state’s weakness, because that clinic state, in addition, has important social functions, and the interests of the developer are private and the profit from this operation will go into private hands. So we have to admit - the millionaire builder is stronger than the whole state! Okay, Kazakhstan - unfortunately, has not gone far to Russia.
And the weakness of the state is actually not a reason to destroy it. The complete absence of the state is even worse! How much can you post about it? How many times to step on the same rake? They didn’t put Serdyukov in prison - yes, HE with him !!!! God will punish, calm down. If Serdyukov is truly guilty - God will punish, do not hesitate. Look at Brezhnev - a wife in a psychiatric hospital, a daughter in a psychiatric hospital, a granddaughter also in a psychiatric hospital, he died in insanity with megalomania - what kind of human court can punish harder?
Once again - calm down. Do not judge - and you will not be judged. The whole screen is splattered with saliva. What is that soul crushed? Is a small place sweeter than horseradish in your hands? Calm down, look sick!

[Serg 122]

Putin has nothing to do with it! And since Serdyukov is not to blame for anything, it is necessary to immediately restore him to his previously occupied position, with payment of all lost material resources and index these funds taking into account inflation! And of course, material and other damage, by itself ....

[PiP]

Quote: kris

for some reason it’s not even surprising. Mr. Putin's lovers, explain everything that happens!

I am not for Putin or against him, I am a loyal citizen to the country's leadership, the new leaders will treat them the same way until they really start to strain me. Everyone (hopefully) read the article and immediately took everything at face value? said the source of the newspaper Izvestia in the Main Military that's when they officially say, then you need to make comments, and now F_U_L_E yell - "grazhdaaaaneee what is being done? karaauul ... save me"

[31231]

Calling Putin with a lowercase letter, and call Obama a big one ?!
Freud explained a lot.

[bask]

I would say. EVERYTHING IS ALREADY EXPRESSED.
In dowry mode, Serdyukov, chubsy and other saw cutters are not touchable.

PAINTING BY OIL

[smel]

That's right. Nobody is to blame for the collapse of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the destruction of the officer corps, and the sale of tidbits of MO to ourselves at bargain prices. As, however, and in the execution of the White House, the destruction of industry, agriculture, health, etc. - not guilty. Glory to Serdyukov !!! Glory to our prosecutor's office and SK !!! It is also necessary from the state (that is, from us taxpayers) to tear them off for keeping under house arrest compensation for millions of 100 bucks, increase the salaries of prosecutors to workers by 10 times and comfort the people on TV, saying that you yourself are to blame for your phobias.
Yes, I almost forgot ... Serdyukov as a candidate for President, and Vasiliev as Prime Minister

[evgenm55]

In the rotten Euro-West, if people spit in the face like that, millions would go out on the streets, and, as has happened, the entire government will be retired. But we just erased the bruise and continue to endure it. Here in the kitchens of their mother. What kind of people- such is the government. Eternal Glory and Memory to Joseph VISSARIONOVICH !!!

[aksakal]

Quote: evgenm55

millions would go out

- - Oh? For Monica Lewinsky, they did not even announce an impeachment to Clinton - no one in the States left such a grub on the street. Occupy Wall Street broke up - no one came out. The head of "Enron" caused billions of dollars in damage and suffered a symbolic punishment - no one took to the streets in the States.
In the United States, they regularly shoot and kill 20 (!) And more children at a time in schools! And it does not occur to anyone in the States even to blame either Obama or the previous president for this! Millions do not go out! In Russia, a couple of maniacs, one who shot at the office because of some employee, the other - just when he was robbing a gun store - and here he is, Putin is guilty!
In Russia, in Kazan, police monsters, and police monster Yevseyev, were all prosecuted. In the USA, a Kazakh citizen is shot by a policeman with 11 bullets, it seemed to him that our citizen reached into his pocket - and this police officer was acquitted by the court. And with regard to the witness in the case of the Tsarnaev brothers, I am generally silent - it seems that the FBI also raped with the leg of a chair and then killed, and nothing - not a single FBROvets took any responsibility. Everything is fine! What the ... are you talking about? What are millions? There, in the States, the people are scared worse than Russia at times! And now it’s justified.

[aksakal]

Continuation ... Even if the Stalinist repressions took place (although I doubt it, but okay, not about that) - a person left on the verdict of the troika to Karlag or somewhere else for several years. But at the same time, his relatives loved and waited, most of his friends and associates believed in him and waited ... The informer who rolled the "cart" was bullied, and sometimes they acted harder! In short, people for some jamb carried for several years, even if terrible, but still only everyday and life inconveniences, practically Losing neither social status, nor respect and love among their relatives and friends. In the States, it seems, there is no such terrible repression, but you are fired for your "communist views" (it used to be, now they can for intolerance to gays) ... Well, they just get fired, it's okay. But from that moment on you cannot find a job, in the eyes of your loved ones you are rapidly moving into the category of "losers", because of this, even your wife, the mother of your children, does not want to have anything to do with you. Yes, and children will quickly explain everything about the "loser-father". If my wife is so postuapet, I generally keep quiet about my earlier friends and good acquaintances, employees and, in general, about the whole environment! In short, you were not sent to prison, but something tells me that the blow to a man is much more serious than that of Stalin and his camps. Yes, Stalin is simply a humanist compared to the sophisticated cruelty of the American elite, who created such a system!
So, no millions in the west will go out on the street, do not invent! Zashugan are worse than any Russian. Even laughter makes out - in Norway, when your child is taken away from you on the "cart" of your child's kindergarten nanny, you have to stand and smile with a satisfied smile! Your obvious frustration due to the fact that your blood is taken away can be regarded as proof of your imbalance, and then you will definitely never see your child! So what? Norwegian parents are standing and smiling. True, the sweetheart is taut and looks more like a grin, but still it's a smile. This is how they, the poor, were scared! At least I can show the traffic cop during the registration of the protocol that I am very dissatisfied, moreover, with harsh phrases (not obscenities, of course) and nothing ... Try to do this in the States - you will leave at least two years! And you will become a "loser" with the loss of everything close and dear! Millions will come out! Ha ha ha!

[AleksUkr]

Quote: smel

Glory to Serdyukov !!! Glory to our prosecutor's office and SK !!!

NOT ALL HEROES ARE LISTED - GLORY TO THE PARTY, THE GOVERNMENT, AND PERSONAL TO THE PRESIDENT!

WE BELIEVE, BELIEVE .........

[Serg 122]

She is "under ..." more convenient!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: bask

PAINTING BY OIL

I'm not guilty

[andrei332809]

Quote: bask

In dowry mode, Serdyukov, chubsy and other saw cutters, not touchable

healthy, namesake. but I'm not ashamed, I do not go to the polls after the abolition of the column "against all"

[New Russia]

By the way, they wanted to register the party "against all" were not allowed) Suddenly she would have won a lot)

[bask]

Quote: andrei332809

healthy, namesake. but I'm not ashamed, I do not go to the polls after the abolition of the column "against all

Great Andrew.
Matvienko has already proposed introducing a column against the election, if anyone, voices Putin’s approval.
And the second most disgusting thing is that: "" The Federation Council approved today the law on the reform of the Russian Academy of Sciences. 135 senators supported the bill, two abstained. Now, in order for the bill to come into force, it remains only for the President of Russia to write it.
The adoption of the document was accompanied by large-scale protests. They were attended by representatives of the Research Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences ... "" http://rbcdaily.ru/society/562949989020082
Now fundamental science, with the filing of Mr. Pu ...., pi.pi.pets ....

[Civil]

Serdyukov, Chubais, Bulk ... to what have sunk

[zanoza]

"Wow..o doesn't sink" - folk wisdom.
In Muscovy they don’t surrender.

[New Russia]

It only speaks of the fact that the government is so fed up with people that in Moscow 1 million people even agree to Navalny

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: New Russia

in Moscow, 1 million people even agree to Navalny

Shaw, did you vote for Anal Million?

[New Russia]

Yes, a third of those who came to the polls in Moscow

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: New Russia

Yes, a third of those who came to the polls in Moscow

Did sho come three million?

[New Russia]

Well, yes, 30% turnout, in Moscow 12 million, about 9 have the right to vote)

[Russ69]

Quote: New Russia

Well, yes, 30% turnout, in Moscow 12 million, about 9 have the right to vote)

And how many voted? Let’s count the votes actually given, not those that supposedly could be cast.

[New Russia]

Well real) Everything is in the news of recent percentages, look and count) 30% voted from 30% of turnout

[Serg 122]

The locals came ...

[Serg 122]

Why be surprised? Almost 37 million people voted for the "pride of Chechnya" - this is when there are only 1 million local residents in circulation ... For "them" even SMS - voting was made free

[Alexander Romanov]

The law is one for all, said Vladimir Vladimirovich and smiled
I don’t remember who, but here on the site they assured me that they would put him in prison, they would definitely put him in. Who convinced me of this, AU

[Orik]

A very well played combination. In the first case, the removal of Perdyukov played into the hands of the authorities, when after the election the level of dissatisfaction was high. The second, now pu on horseback in relation to the situation with Syria, is the margin of safety in order to take its own out of attack. Fuckers are glad, the sheep are safe. There were no doubts about the results from the very beginning, though not all.

[New Russia]

Well, 3 years ago the VEDRA also had a great rating, but now when all of their deeds are surfaced by Putin on the VEDRo and the government is shifting the blame, it’s becoming clear that Putin has nothing to do with it

[AleksUkr]

Judging by the intrigues of the "friends" of VVP, it is already preparing for the next elections - PUTIN'S ELECTION PRESIDENT IN 2018. MAY NOT BE SPENDING ON DIFFERENT ELECTIONS - WE WILL PROVINCE HIS KING, or better IMPERATOR How much money will not be stolen ... And the results of work -

[TRex]

Sasha, don't panic. Personally, I said that I would believe in the guarantor "IF SIT", but things are falling apart, criminals walk around the boutiques and think - what else to buy, the team scratches its turnips and thinks: "And where to attach this fool", and we all drool and we have fun ... they will SIT, be sure to SIT ... on our head ...

[IRBIS]

Quote: TRex

Sasha, don't panic. Personally, I said that I would believe in the guarantor "IF PLANT

Likewise. And I also said then that if the case is "ruined", then it will have unpredictable consequences.

[Russ69]

Quote: IRBIS

Likewise. And I also said then that if the case is "ruined", then it will have unpredictable consequences.

When the amnesty was announced, everyone shouted together that Vasiliev was amnestied in the very first days. They even clogged cognac ...
We must wait for the end of the investigation, no matter what it is. And then everything will fall into place ...

[Hon]

Quote: Russ69

When the amnesty was announced, everyone shouted together that Vasiliev was amnestied in the very first days. They even clogged cognac ...
We must wait for the end of the investigation, no matter what it is. And then everything will fall into place ...

An amnesty can only be made against a person against whom a conviction has been passed. Therefore, amnesty for Vasiliev is not yet possible.

[New Russia]

She would be at least a monkey for the sake of decency and she rests in 7 room apartments and walks to boutiques) Everything is clear

[Hon]

Quote: New Russia

She would be at least a monkey for the sake of decency and she rests in 7 room apartments and walks to boutiques) Everything is clear

She has a 13-room apartment

[Russ69]

Quote: Hon

An amnesty can only be made against a person against whom a conviction has been passed. Therefore, amnesty for Vasiliev is not yet possible.

And then they read the amnesty.?
Under this amnesty, cases under investigation were also closed. The very essence of the amnesty was this.

[Hon]

Quote: Russ69

And then they read the amnesty.?
Under this amnesty, cases under investigation were also closed. The very essence of the amnesty was this.

Yes, I admit the error. I have not worked with criminal law for a long time, a lot is starting to be forgotten.

[Serg 122]

They planted them themselves and released them. They’ll also organize a medal for themselves, but they will write out a prize - and in general there will be a complete order!

[Serg 122]

Damn it ... They didn’t think to see the question!

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: IRBIS

Quote: TRex

Sasha, don't panic. Personally, I said that I would believe in the guarantor "IF PLANT

Likewise. And I also said then that if the case is "ruined", then it will have unpredictable consequences.

As with gambling, forget it ...

[AleksUkr]

Quote: TRex

PLANT, be sure to PLANT ... on our head ...

But was it removed from our neck? Our taxes ensure his comfortable life.

[Ruslan_F38]

The issue of responsibility of Serdyukov and the company is very painful for the citizens of Russia. At the moment, the authorities have clearly made it clear that there are "elected", "family members" - for whom there is their own, chosen justice. Does Putin really not understand that the Serdyukov case will have far-reaching consequences for the country and for him personally? Or he does not care about the citizens of Russia? Shame and disgrace. Do not want to plant Serdyukov and Co., do not plant - confiscate all property, incl. and from relatives (as suggested by Yevkurov), return the stolen property, deprive citizenship publicly and send it out of the country forever.

[Hunghuz]

Reward the uninvolved and punish the innocent ..........)))))))))

[MAG]

This "business" is still remembered, but about the Minister of Agriculture Skrynnik, there is already silence, and there they stole a lot of money too.

[Yarosvet]

Quote: MAG

but about the Minister of Agriculture Skrynnik is already silence

[Siberian German]

la la la la - and who doubted

[alone]

Quote: Kuznetsov 1977

All clear...

no doubt everything is clear.

this scoundrel, though a thief, but an honest fellow. Accurately shared the loot. Therefore, his hut from the edge. this must always be remembered:

DO NOT PLANT YOURSELF!

[krasin]

Well what can I say!

[Bort radist]

The defendant really lives by the law - "Don't believe, don't be afraid, don't ask!"

[IRBIS]

Quote: Bort Radist

The defendant really lives by the law - "Don't believe, don't be afraid, don't ask!"

Sorry, this is not a law, these are concepts. It is for them that he lives.

[Strashila]

And someone was expecting something else ... a little more and words about the statute of limitations will sound ... everything will be covered with a copper basin ... and the accused will shake the country from their feeble compensation ... while legalizing the stolen goods.

[slacker]

Specialists of the Investigative Committee were unable to obtain evidence from the defendants in the Oboronservis case against Anatoly Serdyukov.

Eh, they would give me access to the bodies of the accused ... I guarantee that within a couple of hours they would sing like nightingales in chorus and solo!

[Stiletto]

Quote: Loafer

Eh, they would give me access to the bodies of the accused ... I guarantee that within a couple of hours they would sing like nightingales in chorus and solo!

Yes, yes, and I agree with that. Iron and soldering iron, and only then - the gallows.

[11 black]

Quote: Stiletto

Yes, yes, and I agree with that. Iron and soldering iron, and only then - the gallows.

it is too noticeable - traces remain ... GO WITH A FILE ON THE TEETH and they will speak like cute !!! Our spirits in Chechnya were "interrogated" - 100% result in 5 minutes of "work"
PS It’s too early to guess the future, it’s too early to draw conclusions;
I agree on one thing - if it is justified it will be the last straw for the people (for me personally for sure), and there will be unpredictable consequences!

And yet - admins, dear, you remove THIS photo from the article, Nauseous!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

I can’t calmly look at this face .. (if only in an arresting robe at a logging ..)

[AleksUkr]

Quote: MIKHAN

I can’t calmly look at this face ..

Then look at this one.

[VadimSt]

Finita la comedy .... the circus left, but the clowns stayed!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: VadimSt

Finita la comedy .... the circus left, but the clowns stayed!

Clowns in this case are our people.

[Hon]

The people are suffering

[New Russia]

Serdyukov will never sit down. Putin does not give up. If he is imprisoned, he can talk about the theft of Putin and ministers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2Aqq8xQpKs&feature=c4-overview&list=UUDbsY8C1eQJ
5t6KBv9ds-ag

[i_vam_ne_hvoratj]

Dear New Russia, let me disagree. If he sits down, he will never tell anyone. There, if you wish, you can close your mouth to anyone forever. Serdyukov is not a prisoner of conscience. He is more dangerous alive and free. And at large, and even traveling, he can occupy a niche Berezovsky. But this is my subjective opinion.

[New Russia]

Well, he can leave information to someone from his people and they will publish it in case of a threat)

[little man]

Nonsense about the information. No one will publish anything. Meaning?
Even if Putin himself declares - Yes, I'm a thief!
Then the floor of the site will be screamed - see what an honest president we have! The whole world envies us!

[AleksUkr]

Quote: man

The whole world envies us!

The whole world is jealous of the fortunes of our GDP. AND WHO TO BELIEVE?

[i_vam_ne_hvoratj]

Dear New Russia, I beg you. There are two nuances here. The first. Even ordinary gopniks try not to leave traces. At this level, the search for compromising evidence is possible only for the opposing special services. Second. It seems to me that now the entire flow of information can be divided into two main channels: serious information publications try to avoid covering scandals of any level, and everyone treats the yellow press accordingly. (This site is of a different direction. As they used to say in my youth, it is of a military-patriotic orientation.) Publishing compromising evidence in serious publications, even if we virtually assume that it exists, no one will unsubstantiate, and no one will read the tabloid press. The same applies to the Berezovsky niche. Nobody will seriously appreciate the words about "two suitcases of compromising evidence."

[Russ69]

Quote: i_vam_ne_hvoratj

He is more dangerous alive and free. And at large, and even traveling, he can occupy a niche Berezovsky.

Accident, I would solve all the issues ....

[the polar]

Quote: New Russia

Serdyukov will never sit down. Putin does not give up. If he is imprisoned, he can talk about the theft of Putin and ministers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2Aqq8xQpKs&feature=c4-overview&list=UUDbsY8C1eQJ

5t6KBv9ds-ag

Maybe Putin himself will agree to serve Serdyukov ... If the people ask him very well about it.

[New Russia]

But what about the sacredness of his personality?) The remaining Putiners will have a butt)

[Scoun]

Quote: New Russia

If he is imprisoned, he can talk about the theft of Putin and ministers.

Most likely even a blunder ... nothing would happen (((IMHA.
Let me explain why I think so.
When the revelations of WikiLeaks began, Asanja was not accused of anything and that he was a mishandled Cossack and so on and so forth ....
When the story of Snowden began, and then here on the forum by whom they just did not call him
Presidents of countries openly and openly carry lies and hypocrisy from TV screens
They violate international rights and obligations, but they don't give a damn .. from the category of "they nass in their eyes, they will say - God's dew"
it just seems to me that the people are already just to such an abundance of information on a global scale, "hardened", "perception has dulled", we will make some noise at the forum, not wanting to lose "stability", we will sniffle and wait for the new elections ... ...
PS.
Please tell me kind people .. how did Roizman become mayor of Yekaterinburg? )))

[Serg 122]

To whom? Who to blab ?! Yes, he will unscrew Bosko if he at least mvachknut ... And the fact that Putin’s cover - and covers his own - I agree 100 percent

[Russ69]

a source in the Izvestia newspaper at the Main Military Investigation Department said

Well, how much can you link to anonymous sources.
especially killed it; After reconciling the acceptance certificates and the tender documentation, it turned out that the military not only did not suffer damage, but they also owed 20 million rubles, ”. Initially, the case was started due to leftist acts on allegedly completed work. And now this source claims that it is the leftist papers that justify ...
Discretion ...

[Scoun]

Quote: Russ69

Well, how much can you link to anonymous sources

And it seems that these stuffing is specially done to check how the people will react, a kind of injection to study the reaction of the body, such as if the dose is increased - 1. it will bend, 2. will not respond, 3. It will become stronger ..
PS.
Thank you for pointing to an anonymous source ... otherwise from the first lines I started up that I did not even deserve attention to this so-called "source".

[kostik1301]

And everything in Russia by concepts, when does I.V. Stalin appear ...........

[New Russia]

Stalin was a simple gangster at one time, so the new Stalin may already be somewhere among left-wing radicals and nationalists)

[New Russia]

Passing your bathhert?) Stalin's biogaph to read to you?) Or is he a saint?)

[Manager]

Quote: New Russia

Passing your bathhert?) Stalin's biogaph to read to you?) Or is he a saint?)

Tell you where to put your opinion? Each has its own truth. For thieves, drunks and parasites, Stalin was certainly a monster, for normal families, he was a symbol of stability and strength. And yes, lo and behold, I am not 70 -90 years old, but only 32. And I am completely for returning those times. Not balmy 80s and early 90s, namely 50-70s.
And yes, you are on a Russian-language site and be so kind as to write in Russian and not your butts are wiped out. With such words to you in bulk.

[New Russia]

Bulk, sputtering ... I recognize Putin!) It’s you shove your anger yourself and I’m not for Navalny. I am for Kvachkova and the people against Putin. Such as you, even from a thief Russophobe Putin will make a saint. Stalin was rather positive than negative, but yes, he killed people and was wanted for robbery before the revolution! Do not forget to drink pills, a fighter with the State Department

[Arabist]

Wow, Stalin is bad, Putin is bad, Yeltsin is bad. And then who is good? Maybe Hitler?

[New Russia]

Stalin is much better than Putin and Yeltsin) And the good Kvachkov, Budanov, Rokhlin ...

[Arabist]

Is that all? And what are so few regime martyrs? Why haven’t Ivashov been written?

[New Russia]

That is, there is no regime?) For the cause, did these people suffer?)

[Arabist]

Ah, so there were no crimes? But how then is your slogan the law is one for all?

[New Russia]

What kind of crime?) Tell me)

[Arabist]

Kvachkov convicted under Art. 279 armed rebellion, Yuri Budanov was convicted under paragraph “c” of part 2 of article 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (“Murder”) under part 1 of article 126 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (“kidnapping”) to 6 years in prison, under paragraphs “a, c” part 3 of article 286 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (“Excess of official authority”).

[New Russia]

Oh yes, you are a lawyer and your court decision is always fair) There are concepts of morality and justice

[Arabist]

Do not worry professional ethics I passed. And you will settle down in law enforcement bodies and work there a little. And very quickly, your pink vision of morality and justice in bows will disappear. I have to communicate with such citizens, and you know, as a rule, there is only 1 court trip, even if not as a defendant he discourages engaging in his own business forever.

[Hon]

Quote: Arabist

Kvachkov convicted under Art. 279 armed rebellion,

According to investigators, he tried to organize a mutiny with two crossbows.

Quote: Arabist

Yuri Budanov was sentenced under paragraph “c” of part 2 of article 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (“Murder”) under part 1 of article 126 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (“Kidnapping”) to 6 years in prison, under paragraphs “a, b” of part 3 of article 286 Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (“Excess of official authority”).

This is a lesson for all of our military, it’s impossible to kill snipers in the war, and it doesn’t matter what she put the six guys. So in your opinion? If we have such advocates of the law, then maybe a closer look at the leadership of the Chechen Republic? Ramzan was once proud of the fact that he killed the first Russian at the age of 16, by the way it turns out even before the start of the war.

[New Russia]

With such champions we have the most "fair" law enforcement)

[Arabist]

Well, become yourself the servants of the law. But for computers, all daredevils and experts. Victor Bout probably deservedly serving his sentence at fair gringos? Or Ratko Mladic and Vojislav Seshel?

[Hon]

Quote: Arabist

Well, become yourself the servants of the law. But for computers, all daredevils and experts. Victor Bout probably deservedly serving his sentence at fair gringos? Or Ratko Mladic and Vojislav Seshel?

Yes, it seems like already, I’m also a lawyer, by the way it turned out that I had to choose between my current place of work and the UK. I didn’t want to go to the UK, so I would choose a mentovka without options. Because the prosecutor's office is a bunch of hypocritical cowards with an overly high sense of self-importance.

[Arabist]

Moreover, the prosecutor's office and the investigative committee? The Investigative Committee has long been separated from the prosecutor's office. But why didn’t they go to the police? However, this is not my business.

[Hon]

Quote: Arabist

Moreover, the prosecutor's office and the investigative committee? The Investigative Committee has long been separated from the prosecutor's office. But why didn’t they go to the police? However, this is not my business.

Well, they were separated not very long ago, and the prosecutor's investigators moved to the UK. I didn’t go to the cop, because I didn’t serve in the army, and if I didn’t serve then the category of suitability should be "A", even "B" is not suitable for those who did not serve (problem being solved), I have "C" that is, I cannot get through. But in the UK they took (by agreement)

[AleksUkr]

Quote: Arabist

And then who is good?

Look in the mirror - you will surely see what you need!

[Arabist]

Wow, am I? Well, thanks.

[faint27]

Are you again fighting off a pack of Putiners?

[New Russia]

On this thread, only 2 e attacked me; the rest shamefully fled the battlefieldXD)

[faint27]

Quote: New Russia

On this thread, only 2 e attacked me; the rest shamefully fled the battlefieldXD)

they fled to a branch about drones

[Manager]

Quote: New Russia

I recognize Putin!)

You are mistaken girl.

Quote: New Russia

That you shove your anger yourself

I am a very kind person, just different kinds of ... radishes a lot divorced.

Quote: New Russia

Like you

A typical teenager doesn’t know about life yet, but she sees people through one article .... don’t make fun and don’t rubbish - it hurts!

Quote: New Russia

Do not forget to drink pills, a fighter with the State Department

Well, I sleep and see! Although I would probably be glad if the plague in the form of the United States would disappear from the planet. (Naturally I'm not talking about civilians)

[New Russia]

"A typical teenager, she doesn't know shit about life yet, but she sees people through one article .... don't be ridiculous and don't talk nonsense - it hurts!" Well, you somehow saw in me a fan of Navalny!)

[Manager]

Quote: New Russia

"Well, you somehow saw in me a fan of Navalny!)

You don’t even understand what you read. I told you that with such words you go to Navalny, and not that you are his fan ...... In general, there’s nothing to talk with you about.

[shpuntik]

Corporal
New Russia RU Today, 13:04 ↑ New
Stalin was rather positive than negative, but yes, he killed people and was wanted for robbery before the revolution!

By the way, Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili, a mountain Jew, has five shoots. A couple of shoots were completely unrealistic, which is why there was an opinion about his work on the secret police (one of the versions). But there was such a time that he had to stay in this environment. And when he gained power, he cut out the Bolshevik radicals.
If the gop company of Leiba Davidovich Bronstein (Trotsky) came to power, there would be a lot of money for the country and the people.
Here's a video where Putin rebukes the Hasidim and talks about the nationalization of the Schneerson library by the Soviet government, in which there were 85 percent of Jews.

[Orik]

You see, baby. The MOTIVATION of the action is important. Stalin of those exes did not spend a dime on himself, and there is no need to talk about his "state" after death. The Leader realized his great dream of equality and justice, having said everything by his deeds. You and your radicals still use his legacy, but most radicals are radical not because they really want truth and justice, but out of envy, the desire to grab a piece of which they do not have. Do not have since not capable of the creative process either by education or reason. Good should be with fists, but this is only an option, the basis for the creation of the most just society.
For clarity, I will give a small example. We all see the dominance of "guests" in our markets, a simple farmer and gardener cannot get there. I tell the radicals not to help the brothers enter the markets by creating joint cooperatives, where farmers will supply products, and the radicals will sell (not every farmer has the opportunity to trade himself), fairly distributing a margin of 2/3 to the manufacturer, 1/3 to the radicals. Here wrestling abilities will also come in handy in the event of forceful pressure from clans and an organization to resist the corrupt policemen who cover the market barn. This will give a mutually beneficial opportunity for farmers to sell their products at a much higher mark-up, and give the radicals work for their own, raise the level of organization, and increase their financial resources.

[New Russia]

Cooperatives? Yes, because radicals are either intellectuals or ordinary people from the street it is not their business to create cooperatives. You are wrong to snatch a piece; most radicals are ideological people, because only an ideological person can ignite a crowd, ignite people, and a fake person is immediately visible. And I do not say anything against Stalin)

[Hon]

It’s not true that people often were raised to the barricades by false hypocrites, remember Yeltsin on the tank.

[New Russia]

Maybe. But do you think Kvachkova is lying? When he spoke at a meeting of officers. Or not? And why.

[Hon]

I did not say always, I said it often happened.

[New Russia]

Here) And why do you believe Kvachkov?) After all, mud was also poured on him) Because it is clear that he is not lying intuition)

[Hon]

Kvachkov was not seen in defamatory ties, and the awards on his chest make me believe, but my intuition is deceiving, it is not there, as I wrote in my time, the people behind Yeltsin climbed into the tanks, and Chubais applauded, but in the end they just got a divorce.

[Orik]

And what is THEIR business? Tell me.

[New Russia]

The Affair of the Common People http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfe96OEvGjw&feature=player_embedded The Affair of the Intellectuals is easy to say. )

[Orik]

I am writing to you about this, chatting and smashing all the "affairs". Learn to create!

[New Russia]

So, in order to build up, it is necessary that people understand that they are masters in their land and that the state has historically been formed as a servant of the people and fair managers who will judge fairly) We can’t do anything until we understand who we are and who the state is

[Arabist]

The state is a machine of suppression, as Lenin taught us.

[New Russia]

Ideally no, but in 1917 and now yes)

[Arabist]

Oh really? Seriously?. Have you read Tomaso Companella and Thomas More?

[New Russia]

No, I'm not the smartest like you) But the state should serve the people

[AleksUkr]

Quote: New Russia

But the state must serve the people

IT IS NOTABLE !!!!!!!!! how the state serves the people.

[Orik]

Again, dear, you are confusing cause and effect. FIRST, a person feels like the owner, and then he puts things in order at the farm. Otherwise, it turns out "since we are power, then all the women, moonshine and our zhrachka". Although you still have a lot of confusion in your head, you feel a lot. You yourself will gradually see how people change, getting even a little power, one of 5-10 is able not to lean on and exercise power, including for the benefit of others. Everything in this world is sacrificed by mother, plowman, worker, war.
To realize that there is justice, a person must have an ideal. Like the feeling of the owner, all this is systematically killed in people.
"... the door is closed for meanings and values, subjective grounds and motives are replaced by conditioning processes and it remains by means of" hidden suggestion "to condition and manipulate a person. It is reification that opens the door of manipulation. them...
- ... a person begins to behave like a person only when he is able to overcome the level of psychophysical and organismic given ...
- ... the primary meaning is not spatial and not material, not corporal, but existential.
- Thus, a person in general is a person then and to the extent when and since he, as a spiritual being, transcends the limits of his physical and mental being.
gets on and does not die.
“An existential vacuum is a collective neurosis of our day that can only be cured on a collective level.”
- Only if the initial concern for the implementation of meaning is frustrated, does a person seek pleasure or is satisfied with power.
- The desire for power, money explains a lot in professional over-activity along with sexual over-activity, which serve as an escape from awareness of the existential vacuum.
- The path to gaining pleasure and self-realization leads only through self-giving and self-denial.
- At first he understood himself to be a creation - as if from the point of view of his creator, God. Then came the machine age, and man began to see in himself the creator - as if from the point of view of his creation, the machine. Now we live in an age of thinking and counting machines, a person begins to see himself as a product of the economic system.
“The less a person is able to determine the purpose of his life, the more he accelerates its pace.” Viktor Frankl “A Man in Search of Meaning”

[Orik]

I recommend for the general development of http://sulakshin.ru there is also a good history textbook http://rusrand.ru/dev/uchebnik-istorii

[Nayhas]

Quote: Orik

Stalin of those exes did not spend a dime on himself, and there is no need to talk about his "state" after death.

Yeah, what did you think he lived for and went to Switzerland? Plowed in the field or stood at the machine? Who are you and where did Comrade Dzhugashvili work?
At the expense of the state. His daughter, having faded from the USSR from India, first of all, for some reason visited Switzerland, after which she suddenly had several millions for which she had worked without a single day, she safely existed in the USA, surrounding herself with a local bohemian and party, after which she successfully ran out everything that was requested back to the USSR to the popular tit. Do not even offer a version with a fee for a book, in those days books cost a penny, and a million dollars was like the current ten. For example, Joan Rowling for the sake of her millions wrote more than one book about Harry Potter, while receiving fees for both film adaptation and related products besides the books themselves. Aliluyev herself complained that the publishers and agents had fooled her like a simpleton, having appropriated most of the fees for herself, because at the conclusion of the contract did not look what she signed. So Comrade Stalin had a nest egg in Switzerland.

[Day 11]

Just do not need to apply today's measure of values ​​to this man! Svetlana remembered who she married? Remind? If you do not know, there is nothing to touch him with your unclean hands!

[Nayhas]

Quote: Den 11

Svetlana remembered who she married? Remind? If you do not know, there is nothing to touch him with your unclean hands!

Remind. For a millionaire? Or for an architect who pro-sponsored her condition?

[Orik]

Yeah, what did you think he lived for and went to Switzerland? Plowed in the field or stood at the machine? Who are you and where did Comrade Dzhugashvili work?

Learn the story, chatterbox!

1899
January 18 - Seminar Joseph Dzhugashvili for a month loses the right to enter the city.
April 19 - Joseph Dzhugashvili, while on vacation in Tiflis, takes an active part in the working day.
May 29 - the decision to expel Joseph Dzhugashvili from the seminary with the motivation "for failure to appear for exams for an unknown reason", and in fact - for the propaganda of Marxism among seminarians and workers of railway workshops.
June - November 1899 - Joseph Dzhugashvili is tutoring with children from wealthy families in Tiflis.
December 28, 1899 - March 21, 1901 - years of work of I.V. Stalin as a computer observer at the Tiflis Observatory with a salary of 20 rubles per month. (This geophysical observatory had nothing to do with astronomy, as, for example, E. Radzinsky claims, but was just a meteorological station).
1900
April 23 - I.V. Stalin gives a speech on a working day in the vicinity of Tiflis, in the area of ​​Salt Lake.
July 1900 - April 1901 - I.V. Stalin, P.A. Japaridze, A.G. Tsulukidze and S.V. Dzhibladze publish on August 1 the first printing leaflet. Also known are leaflets issued on August 3, 4, 8, 10, and 11. The first political leaflet was published on December 18.
1901
March 21 - a search of the apartment of I.V. Stalin at the observatory and an order from the authorities to arrest him; at the time of the search in the observatory, IV Stalin was not. On the night of March 22, Viktor Kurnatovsky is being arrested.
March 28 - from that day until the February Revolution of 1917 I.V. Under illegal conditions, Stalin leads a tense, dangerous, heroic life of a professional Bolshevik revolutionary of the Leninist school.

http://baldin.ru/article/read/istorija_stalina.html

Further links, prisons, escapes and short-term trips to the congresses. Zhirova in Switzerland blanks, brackets and other evil spirits.

[Nayhas]

Quote: Orik

Learn the story, chatterbox!

Learn to understand what you write. Since 1900 and before the October coup what did he live for?

Quote: Orik

March 28 - from that day until the February Revolution of 1917 I.V. Under illegal conditions, Stalin leads a tense, dangerous, heroic life of a professional Bolshevik revolutionary of the Leninist school.

From pathos do not suffocate. Stalin is a parasite like his whole Bolshevik gang, yes, three months of work at the observatory, can you safely record him in the proletariat?

[mark7]

Really a talker, even entering into correspondence is somehow disgusting

[Orik]

How Stalin "fattened".

1913
September 27 - Ya.M. Sverdlov writes R.V. Malinovsky: “Dear Roman! I don’t know if this letter will be able to reach the beginning of the debauchery ... I just said goodbye to Vaska ("Vasily" - one of the pseudonyms of IV Stalin - LB), he stayed with me for a week ... If you have money for me or Vaska (can send), then send to the following address: Turukhansk Yenisei province, s. Monastic, Karl Aleksandrovich Lukashevits. And nothing more, no marks for anyone and the like is needed. At the same time, send either me or Vaska a postcard with a message about sending and mark the number. That's all. By past mail we wrote to you, asked for the deportation of newspapers and magazines. Do what you can. All the best, every success, hello to all friends. Shake your hand".
October 1 - the meeting of the Central Committee of the RSDLP (b) confirmed the earlier decision “on the organization of I.V. Dzhugashvili and Ya.M. Sverdlov’s escape and the allocation of 100 rubles for this purpose. ”
November 10 - I.V. Stalin writes a letter to Petersburg addressed to T.A. Slavutinsky: “Somehow it’s shameful to write, but what can you do - the need compels. I don't have a penny. And all the supplies came out. There was some money, but it was spent on warm clothes, shoes and supplies, which are very expensive here. They still trust in a loan, but by God, I don’t know what will happen next ... Is it possible to stir up acquaintances and get 20-30 rubles? And even more? It would be a direct salvation, and the sooner, the better, since winter is in full swing (yesterday it was 33 degrees cold). And the wood is not bought in sufficient quantities, the stock is running out. I hope you get it if you want. So, to the point, dear. And then the “Caucasian from the Kalashnikovskaya Exchange” will look like that ... you know the address, send it directly to me (Turukhansky Krai, Yenisei province, Kostino village, etc.). You can, if necessary, stir up Sokolov, and then money can be found more than 30 rubles. And that would be a holiday for me. ”
November 12 - I.V. Stalin makes a postscript to the letter addressed to T.A. Slavutinsky: “Darling, dear Tatyana Alexandrovna, I received the parcel. But I didn’t ask you for new clothes, I only asked for my own, old, but you still bought a new one, you spent it, meanwhile, it’s a pity, you have very little money. I don’t know how to pay you, dear, dear - dear. ”
November 20 - I.V. Stalin makes another postscript to the letter addressed to T.A. Slavutinsky: “Sweetheart. My need is growing by the clock, I am in a desperate situation, in addition I am still sick, some kind of suspicious cough has begun. You need milk, but ... money, no money. Honey, if you get the money, send it immediately by telegram. No urine to wait anymore ... ".

[Dober]

Quote: Orik

You see, baby.

Yes, I think everyone understands that the "baby" may well have a weekly stubble, stones in the gallbladder and permanent fumes ...
Yes, and a picture of a granddaughter for an avatar ...

And a clear desire to troll ... "respected catfish"

[New Russia]

XDDD) And what do you think the girls do not understand?

[Dober]

I thought for a while about building a phrase ...

Quote: New Russia

do you think the girls don’t understand anything?

Well, in some ways they understand very well ... I have GIRLS (in view of). But much of that "what do they understand" goes beyond the scope of VO.
Usually GIRLS have different hobbies. From "cross-stitching on the hoop" to "spinning * opoy, in suitable situations", but hanging on THIS resource, literally "sticking to everyone you meet" - looks like a banal trolling due to excess time ...
Although...
/ thoughtfully / Girls are over 45 ... (physiological)
Just in case -

[New Russia]

Girls are different ...)

[AleksUkr]

Quote: New Russia

Girls are different ...)

Especially the ones on the right?

[Manager]

Quote: New Russia

And what do you think the girls do not understand?

Such as on your ava, whether in a row!

[Hon]

By the way it is written it is clear that a clearly young girl, probably 20 or so years old. Perhaps a young guy, but very unlikely, and it makes no sense.

[Yarosvet]

Quote: New Russia

Do you read Stalin’s biogaph?

You can read (with the indication of the source of information of course)

[New Russia]

Okay, that was a mistake about robberies!) Once I saw it on the first channel. Here

[Arabist]

So according to your version, channel 1 is the mouthpiece of crooks, thieves, and Russophobes. And do you believe him? He laughed. Thank.

[New Russia]

I said it was wrong!) And you Putiners do not believe the first channel?)

[Arabist]

I do not believe everything that they say because it is not small. Your anti-Putin comments will not make the country better. And do not use Lurk tongue so often.

[Yarosvet]

Quote: New Russia

Okay, that was a mistake about robberies!) Once I saw it on the first channel. Here

You guess for what purpose they pour dirt on Stalin and replace concepts with respect to communist ideas?

[ziqzaq]

Quote: New Russia

Have you got a bathhurt?

And speak Russian poorly?

[Hon]

This internet term means "butt pain"

[New Russia]

Buthert is when something angers but argues anger does not work) For fanatics this happens

[abdrah]

It’s better to be a gangster in concepts than a huckster, huckster has nothing sacred, only enrichment, the real thief, of whom there probably was no material left, was not important.

[New Russia]

Agree. The bandits of the 90s had more honor than the oligarchs, corrupt officials and the current Caucasian organized crime groups, no jokes

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: New Russia

Agree. The bandits of the 90s had more honor than the oligarchs

Froilyain, how old are you? The oligarchs are the bandits of the 90s !!!

[New Russia]

The oligarchs are the oligarchs and the bandits are the seeds in the stairwell and PM with a baseball bat)

[Hon]

The seeds in the entrance are gopniks, the bandits were mainly athletes, veterans, as well as former employees (much less often) and actually blue (black), still Caucasians. By the way, I know one bandos of St. Petersburg, more precisely, we have a common acquaintance. So now the oligarch is quite imagined, at home abroad, a lot of servants, security, a lot of legal business, prefers to ride a bentley.
Or, for example, Anatoly Bykov, he began with an ordinary racket and became the aluminum king.
By the way: November 19, 2004 Bykov joined the political party "Eurasian Union"; June 7, 2011 Bykov was awarded the distinction "For Services to the City of Krasnoyarsk"

[Russ69]

Quote: New Russia

The oligarchs are the oligarchs and the bandits are the seeds in the stairwell and PM with a baseball bat)

Who worked for the current aligarchs ...

[New Russia]

In general, yes. But earlier racketeering of racketeering and murder of businessmen was widespread, not rape and pedophilia as it is now

[Hon]

Quote: New Russia

In general, yes. But earlier racketeering of racketeering and murder of businessmen was widespread, not rape and pedophilia as it is now

Rocket, protection, etc. this is what money was made, and rape and pedophilia are just crimes, by the way, both bandos and ordinary inhabitants can commit them, these crimes have always been committed.

[New Russia]

Always but not on such a scale as now google official statistics

[Hon]

Yes, it’s about the same, it’s just that the company now has similar cases, everything pops up, do not forget about the latency of this type of crime, that is, it’s difficult to keep statistics on them

[New Russia]

Compash? Where?) About the growth of pedophilia at times even in Russia 2 years ago they said

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: New Russia

The oligarchs are the oligarchs and the bandits are the seeds in the stairwell and PM with a baseball bat)

Clear, youngster on the site

[Yarosvet]

Quote: abdrah

the real thief, of whom there probably was no material left, was not important.

Yeah - they became thieves for a lofty goal, romance ...

This "romance" is divorce.

[Drosselmeyer]

Is it you again raving about bank robberies by Stalin? So it wasn’t, and many on this forum read Stalin’s biography and other scientific works about him. Therefore, it is not necessary, having grabbed the tops from the perestroika newspapers, to carry nonsense with the appearance of an expert.

[New Russia]

Good. There was no robbery. But there was collectivization and the law of 3 spikelets. Well, he’s not an angel, not an angel)

[Yarosvet]

Quote: New Russia

But there was collectivization and the law of 3 spikelets. Well, he’s not an angel, not an angel)

So take an interest in what it is, read this law after all.

[New Russia]

That is, hunger was not the result of Stalin’s domestic policy, but it happened by itself?)

[Arabist]

Not by itself, but there was famine in the 20s.

[Yarosvet]

Quote: New Russia

That is, hunger was not the result of Stalin’s domestic policy, but it happened by itself?)

The cause of the famine was crop failure, the criminal component and the devastation after the Civil.

At the beginning of the 20th century, there were 7 - 01, 05, 06, 07, 08, 11, 13 years of similar hunger periods.

[Drosselmeyer]

there is no need to argue about those things about which later to say: "well, it was good." Read more books, the benefit of the Internet, and about the "three spikelets" and about collectivization. And stop being a provocateur, the site is not the same.

[AleksUkr]

Quote: New Russia

Stalin was a simple gangster at one time, so the new Stalin may already be somewhere among left-wing radicals and nationalists)

AND EVERYTHING YOU KNOW, AND EVERYWHERE BEEN VISITED, EXACTLY INTRODUCED ...? Envy is the same delight!

[Sergey_K]

Stalin is the sacred cow of this site. In principle, Putin, too, but something mechanism failed, and I see negative comments! Will not work! Putin is not to blame! The Duma is not to blame! And anyway, that you, your mother, are not happy all the time ??? !!!

[JonnyT]

Favorite blya..y!

Whatever good the current government would do, but generations will remember it for the affairs of Serdyukov, Kvachkov, and so on.
When will a "hero" appear in Russia, who will kill all this thieves' caudle from a nominal revolver!

[New Russia]

Kvachkov was such a hero. Where are the rallies in his defense? Everyone at home on the Internet is outraged and waiting for someone else to do it for them.

[JonnyT]

Quote: New Russia

Where are the rallies in his defense?

Haha ..... Do you think that the rallies will change something ???? Your rallies are just the thieves who organize to create an appearance ... ... here we need an independent social regulator "forest nurse" so to speak, that such phenomena as theft, corruption and sabotage did not pollute our society

Here a blood bath is needed at the addresses of thieves and the resettlement of their families in sparsely populated areas of the Russian Federation

[New Russia]

An organization is needed for a bloody bath, or to be completely boiling) 300 500 1000 people are already leaving in the regions, but until oil prices drop, apparently the rest will think my hut knows nothing from the edge)

[Orik]

In the words of not a boy, but a husband. It turns out that not everything is so running.

[Russ69]

Quote: New Russia

A blood bath needs an organization

I wonder who will benefit from the bloody bath in Russia ..?

[New Russia]

It was not the bathhouse that you thought of, but read the branch that is individual for each enemy of the people from the beginning) Cops for people will not shoot and thieves and oligarchs will not be defended by anyone. The main thing is that Navalny doesn’t come after, but apart from Moscow naive fools, nobody needs him, all the same, in one place Putin’s propaganda about Navalny from the State Department is usefulXD)

[Russ69]

Quote: New Russia

This was not the bathhouse that you thought about, but the individual branch for each enemy of the people, read from the beginning)

You write a little higher that Stalin was a bandit destroying objectionable, now you yourself are proposing to do the same. Who will determine who is right, who is to blame?

[Bort radist]

Quote: Russ69

I wonder who will benefit from the bloody bath in Russia ..?

The bath attendant!

[Russ69]

Quote: Bort Radist

The bath attendant!

I don’t argue ... The question is who will be in this position ...

[Prosha]

A Shoigu will be appointed as a bathhouse attendant. Who else?

[JonnyT]

Quote: New Russia

In regions by 300 500 1000

And you can read more if you are not difficult of course .....
I myself am from the region, but people are coming out to beat the neighboring region or those who fly)))) .... I am outraged a lot, but basically everyone adapted to the current system, build houses, give birth to children, work. There is always the possibility of earning, there is only a lot of work to be found .... you can go to rallies, demand, try to change the system, but you can work and grow children. Unfortunately, these things are not compatible.

[New Russia]

That's it so that everyone needs something special) For example, in Novouralsk, 20000 migrants went there for the last 10000 inhabitants, in Ivanovo, Volgograd the other day, Stavropol, Sagra, Novokhopyorsk and others. I don’t remember the small towns of figs) It’s still there in recent months I do not remember)

[soaring]

Super!!! To the very point !!!! JonnyT-You my respect !!!

[Orik]

When will a "hero" appear in Russia?

When the majority of the people deserve it!

[Dazdranagon]

Photo to the article - how does this RYE ASK A BRICK !!!

[Hon]

Only armored Mercedes, such a brick does not take

[Yura]

Quote: Hon

Only armored Mercedes, such a brick does not take

Well, why, and if the brick is made of dynamite and the size of a foam concrete block?

[Hon]

Dreams Dreams. Have you taken Chubais? Yeltsin? Gaidar?

[pv1005]

The question is, why are there such "specialists" in the GVSU who did not take into account, did not see, did not hear. For the PR, yes we are, yes we are, yes we are crushing naked Hedgehogs. But in fact, well, I didn't, I didn't. Then everything is printed ........................

[Anya]

Well, where are the "patriots" that there is no one?

[New Russia]

These are not patriots but fools who are trying to talk about Putin’s gang crimes with fictitious achievements, but it’s getting worse

[Anya]

YOU WHAT ??? Do not know that in fact all the difficulties we have are due to the State Department ???

[New Russia]

Deputy Fedorov will tell us that Putin is trying but can’t do anything and through force will appoint ministers of enemies of the people and sign the law on the WTO, but we still need to support Putin because who if not him?)

[Anya]

Cries and signs ...

[pahom54]

So today I died, but not as a patriot - the Motherland and the country have nothing to do with it, died as a supporter of GDP ... That's all.

[New Russia]

By the way, I also voted for Putin in 2012, and only after a straight line in the spring of delirium about the salaries of the doctors of defense of Serdyukov and Chubais on the part of Putin began to understand something, and before that, everything was in a fog, all the time, I justified excuses for him)

[Uncle lee]

Dolgonko, you opened your eyes ... With him everything has been clear for a long time

[mark7]

Well done better late than never, many continue to live in this fog

[Dober]

Quote: pahom54

died as a supporter of GDP ... That's it.

Amen....

[Algor73]

"The investigation in the Oboronservis case failed to obtain evidence against Serdyukov" - one might think that someone had doubts. We need serious changes. It is impossible to change the system by changing only signs and names, hence all the problems.

[New Russia]

The system is people who need to be replaced by everyone, as well as laws and the constitution

[Starover_Z]

We hoped to get direct evidence of participation in the dubious transactions of Serdyukov himself, but did not take into account a number of economic nuances, As a result, testimony against the ex-minister could not be obtained

Who would have doubted! With hundreds of millions of leftist money turnovers - as a result, "Nobody wanted to die."
The result is "Oil Painting"! AND FIVE satisfied.

[d1m1drol]

Well, you can’t plant ... at least shoot me then!

[saber]

not the 37th! just could have died of a heart attack ... After all, he was worried about billions plundered by his calf, right !?

[Unsam]

What nonsense? (

[Valery Neonov]

Hmm, Taburetkin is a monument to the powerlessness of corruption against corruption ...
Can’t we wait, but ...:

[New Russia]

Dyomushkin and Marcinkiewicz have to do with it?) Are you guilty of lack of love for the enemy of the people of Putin?) Powerlessness against corruption ... Power is corruption. The name of the authorities why everyone is embarrassed to say?

[Hon]

Martsinkevich))) A Jew-Russian nationalist, that's cool))) Isn't Demushkin the one who sang the praises of Kadyrov?))

[New Russia]

Yes?) At the expense of Demushkin I did not know, but at the expense of the Jew Marcinkiewicz, Roizman was also a Jew but was not seen in anything bad but only in good, therefore he won the election despite the cheating even)

[Hon]

Quote: New Russia

Yes?) At the expense of Demushkin I did not know, but at the expense of the Jew Marcinkiewicz, Roizman was also a Jew but was not seen in anything bad but only in good, therefore he won the election despite the cheating even)

In 1981, Roizman was convicted of theft (art. 144 part 2 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR), fraud (147 part 3 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR) and illegal possession of cold steel (218 part 2 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR). OPG Uralmash this is of course only good)))

[New Russia]

Well, that was a long time ago) And judging by the way his power in the elections was afraid and awkwardly pouring mud he was not a crook, you will see his meetings with voters, no guards, no statements, honestly answers tough questions. And he fought with drugs for which he almost sat down

[Hon]

Quote: New Russia

Well, that was a long time ago) And judging by the way his power in the elections was afraid and awkwardly pouring mud he was not a crook, you will see his meetings with voters, no guards, no statements, honestly answers tough questions. And he fought with drugs for which he almost sat down

This is called pissing in the ears, Roizman has a good criminal cover if that, after all, lobbying for the necessary interests. By the way, why did you get the idea that he is fighting the drug trade, and does not help to crush the market.
His friends are relevant:
Andrey (Dyusha) Kabanov, Ekaterinburg. One of the founders of the Yekaterinburg Foundation "A city without drugs." At one time (when Roizman was serving his term in the Duma) he was even in charge of the Fund’s chief, but later this whole thing sickened him and he retired. In this, your LiveJournal is known as the Livejournal user icon.pngakabanov (by the way, all the non-castle posts in this cozy blog are racially reminiscent of open peer). In the past - a participant in the Siniye organized crime group (criminals), a drug addict, a prisoner, and a deputy of the Yekaterinburg City Duma;

Alexander Murzikov and Denis Pertsev, Ekaterinburg. Acting on the orders of the patient, they searched for drug dealers. A young girl was appointed a drug dealer who was raped by Roizman’s friends under the threat of throwing drugs, and then also put in a pre-trial detention center for a year, demanding that she pick up the application. But in the end, justice prevailed, and Sasha and Deniska sat down. This, incidentally, is the only case of the known when Roizman did try to harness himself as a comrade, trying to put pressure on the prosecutor. It cannot be ruled out that the reason for Roizman's feelings for the fate of his comrades-in-arms was albeit distant, but the similarity of the articles on which they were put;

Egor Bychkov, Nizhny Tagil. 21 years old. In this, your LJ is known as the Livejournal user icon.pngegor-bychkov. President of the Nizhny Tagil Foundation "City Without Drugs". Bychkova was tried and eventually locked up on a 3,5 jail for kidnapping. Under the pressure of the public and personally of President Anatolyevich, the sentence was replaced with a suspended sentence. From reliable sources it is known that Roizman promised to help his friend and comrade-in-arms Bychkov, about whom he wrote a lot and well in his cozy blazhik. Roizman helps: he says, Bychkov is to blame;

Alexander Shumilov, Angarsk, Irkutsk region. 31 year. In LJ it is known as Livejournal user icon.pngashumilov. Assistant to the deputy Roizman, head of the Angara branch of the GBN. He was repeatedly noticed while talking with representatives of the local organized crime group (by coincidence, the city controlling the drug market was more than half).
Repeatedly ran for the city duma, but without much success.

[Hon]

By the way, I have nothing against the Jews. But just when a Jew throws ridges and yells that he is a US patriot, it suggests thoughts of his dishonesty))

[New Russia]

Zigi yes) But Stalin also said that the Russian patriot)))

[Hon]

All the same, Stalin had in mind the Soviet, and he was not a nationalist.

[abdrah]

This is what he is waiting for, the Jews it was they who invented the name for themselves, for some reason in all Slavic and European languages ​​they called ZHID, which is translated from them into Russian as 3 letters (x ..), therefore they are offended when you say so.

[V. A.]

Rassey elections are not games, but a fierce struggle. Therefore, Roizman did not win, but won. Do not get so clinging to words, just imagine what it was like for him to fight with all these fat-faced Karaulovs, etc. Roizman - well done !!!

[New Russia]

He scored like 43%, but judging by how he winds up EdRo’s votes and pours mud, he still doesn’t give air, from morning till night he shows his unconditional victory)

[IRBIS]

Quote: V.A.

Roizman - well done !!!

Do not make yourself an idol ... Wait in your hands for clapping, as if later you would not have to clap your ears on the cheeks. Or do you think that the felon in the mayor’s chair will frantically bake about the people? Well, well ... Freshly giving ...

[New Russia]

In any case, change the new felon to the old one) It won’t be worse)

[IRBIS]

Quote: New Russia

In any case, change the new felon to the old one) It won’t be worse)

You are a kind soul man, a girl with a "terrible" (Article 282) name. You are a plus for optimism, but believe me, it won't be better either.

[Orik]

Do not trust the "Danians".

[Orik]

Similar to demushkin, a torus, 99,9% white intelligence agents, all who really interfere with the authorities are sitting on a crossbow and three rusty shells, like Kvachkov.

[New Russia]

There are also Kalashnikov and Yekishev ...

[Garik_31RU]

Quote: Valery Neon

Hmm, Taburetkin is a monument to the powerlessness of corruption against corruption ...
Can’t we wait, but ...:

The list is not complete ...

[major071]

If they wanted to put them in, they would have planted them. And the evidence would be found and the testimony changed. But the commands "fas!" did not sound, but gave the command "Fu!" Money, money everywhere, everything depends on a lot of money.

[Mareman Vasilich]

Calm down, brethren, on election day everyone will rush to vote for a united Russia, and the gdp. There is nothing surprising.

[New Russia]

Who is everyone?) They have a rating of 25% for all polls and in the regions they wind up 50. Yes, and turnout is everywhere, one-third no one even goes to the polls

[Michael_59]

Quote: Valery Neonov

Hmm, stools are a monument to powerlessness

Rather, a reminder of the unity of power and corruption ...

[albanech]

Not surprising! You look at his fucking! This can not be called a person! Corruption rolls over!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

The case is not yet closed .. digging hard for men.! I feel the smell of treason here (and not just theft)

[New Russia]

Of course, only this case of Oboronservis and not Serdyukov is not closed) A maximum of Vasiliev will cost a couple of years without boutiques

[Mihaylo Tishayshiy]

"New Russia", since you are Russia, albeit new, call yourself a normal Russian name. If you are a ruddy guy, you will be our named brother, if you are a red maiden, you will be our kind sister. You must know not only your enemies, but also your allies by sight or at least by name. And what is written in your full name (sorry for "you", but in Russia even tsars were addressed with "you") ...
I see Putin is not particularly fond of you. He is not my idol either, and in the elections I vote against him and against United Russia. But he does not intend to discuss the internal affairs of Russia, as well as the USA (UCSA - "ass_opa" in Buryat) with an opponent from Kentucky or Oidaho.
I hope you won’t be offended by my remark.
As for Serdyukov and K and the attitude to Putin’s reaction on this issue, we wrote here in the comments to other articles there is already a lot to climb into this slurry again, anyway that’s barefoot in - AGAINST !!!

[New Russia]

I live in Adygea in the village) And the real name is scary to say after the news about the landing on 282 for comments on the Internet, I'm a red girl)

[Michael_59]

Quote: MIKHAN

I smell like treason here

I'm afraid that the Kremlin itself might smell like this "in such a situation."

[Yun Klob]

Like this. Because of the arrogant arrivals of investigators of the IC, such an effective manager as Serdyukov for almost a year was not a destiny. An negligent team of investigators - they felled to Siberia, let them work out the damage.

[parazit]

so it was immediately clear ... Stouretkin was simply "punished" for his walking around the women and that's it ... and the country ... but figs with her with the country, the main thing is babos.

[Alew]

He looked at Serdyukov and it became clearer expression- erysipelas asks for a brick

[reverse-trotil]

I have the feeling that I never got a slap in the face. And I can’t give change ...

[pahom54]

Shame!!! Shame on GDP, shame on the government, the investigation, the prosecutor's office and the legal proceedings !!! The whole country got in the face from the "rulers" !. Spit, and if I used to be loyal to GDP, then after such cases ... After all, I could only tell the face, and everything would be different ... Ugh !!!

[New Russia]

He already spat on the people many times, and when he gave the hero to Kadyrov and when he signed the WTO and many more when. It’s time to finally open your eyes and stop waiting for something from him, if he wanted to have fired his liberal thief government long ago

[Uncle lee]

Right thoughts

[vladsolo56]

Now on some channel there is a film "White Arrow", it is a pity that there is no such patriotic organization in the life of modern Russia, it is a pity that there is no one to defend the interests of ordinary people. Someone will say that this is illegal, but what is legal in Russia? to steal, to imprison the innocent, and to make the guilty ministers. The law should work for the people, for the state, and not for bandits, traitors and thieves.

[IRBIS]

Quote: vladsolo56

Now on some channel the film "White Arrow" is being shown, it is a pity that there is no such patriotic organization in the life of modern Russia, it is a pity that there is no one to defend the interests of ordinary people,

If you watched this film carefully, you should remember the main idea: "White Arrow", as it turned out in the end, "worked" for the same criminals, only of higher rank. And the scale of "interests" is much larger. This is such a "patriotic" organization.

[vladsolo56]

I don’t at all suggest creating a copy of the arrow from the film, you didn’t quite understand me correctly. The bottom line is that at least someone should oppose a rotten system.

[Alekseev]

Quote: vladsolo56

and if I used to be loyal to GDP, then after such things ...

It is written: "You will learn them by business ..."
One thing is not clear, why was it necessary to start these very other things? Will they laugh at ordinary people?
“Now it is not clear how to further arrange the main episode imputed to Yelkin - with the maintenance of the complex of buildings of the Ministry of Defense in Kolymazhny Lane. After checking the acceptance certificates and tender documentation, it turned out that not only was no damage done to the military, but they still owe 20 million rubles, "a source close to the investigation told the newspaper."
Some kind of nonsense ...
Does the "source" really have no idea that it is not the tender documentation that should be checked against the acts of work performed, but their actual volume and quality?
Then immediately there is something to incriminate ...
And investigators and judges are recognized as elites, and a humiliating retirement coefficient of 0.54 does not apply to them!

[Drosselmeyer]

This is an internal showdown of some clans that we don’t quite understand. So the mayor of Makhachkala just stole big and killed ordinary citizens, then he arranged everything for the Kremlin, and as soon as he got into connection with the militants (and through them respectively the Saudis) and began to kill high-ranking officials, only then he was arrested.

[Yarosvet]

Quote: Alekseev

And investigators and judges are recognized as elites, and a humiliating retirement coefficient of 0.54 does not apply to them!

[aud13]

Nothing to cling to

[Alex66]

the military not only was not damaged, but they also remained owed 20 million rubles
I liked this phrase, they need to give the medal and the posts to be restored, now Golikova will count (for this purpose she was appointed), determine what profit they brought the MO so they will also pay the bonus and will be restored to their posts. But Shoigu will be left without a portfolio.
This is where Putin’s double standards are taught by the West, but he can’t restore order at home, under the CPSU he would have long since flown from office for divorce. Sorry pent.

[major071]

New Russia Today, 11: 13

Serdyukov will never sit down.
Eccentric man! Who will plant him, he is a monument ...

[New Russia]

By the way) http://lenta.ru/news/2013/09/25/sovet1/ The State Department is to blame for what is happening with the RAS or ...?

[kotvov]

but did anyone doubt that the matter would be let go on the brakes. The present government of their own, well, never will surrender. They are all tied, from top to bottom.

[Vasia kruger]

Then the question arises ... why then did they even initiate a case? I do not believe that he was simply taken and excited, you can see the place indicated to the stool. Or it’s just that Vasiliev is not happy with someone, so they decided to scare her.

[Per se.]

Café, café, what cofee? You have no methods against Kostya Saprykin.

[RUSS]

The fish goes out of my head ........

[RUSS]

One such case negates everything, so to speak, the "merits" of Putin and K.
It seems to me that the authorities still, excuse me, are holding us for suckers.

[New Russia]

Merits are the WTO, the influx of migrants, corruption, the collapse of education ... Everything else "affordable crooks" and "doubling the GDP" is just a myth, Oil prices were growing, that's all, the economy was not modernized with this money

[Yarosvet]

Quote: RUSS

One such case negates everything, so to speak, the "merits" of Putin and K.

Do not enlighten - what kind of merit?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Here the hell pancake!
In principle - everything was as expected, but the hope somehow still somewhere somewhere ... Although it seems to be not a boy, but sometimes I want to believe in good ...
All these Serdyukovs will continue to live as they did, and laugh at us. Someone wise said that the people have the kind of government they deserve. What do we deserve if people for whom the article "treason to the Motherland" is crying cannot be condemned by the obEP line?
Long time ago I didn’t feel so spat upon.

[major071]

RUSS Today, 13: 14 

The fish goes out of my head ........

But they clean it from the tail ...

[Drosselmeyer]

Putin lives by the rule: "Do not bear fruit who are not satisfied with your power." It seems to us that Putin is such a tyrant with absolute power, but in fact the king is made by his entourage. If he starts to punish this entourage, then Putin will be replaced as soon as possible, there are plenty of ways to do this.

[New Russia]

Well of course, the king is a good bad boyars. Only his biography, the cooperative Lake and more suggests otherwise. And if you were right, then Putin is a weak, worthless ruler who is unable to change anything. Only you are wrong because Putin himself dragged all his thieves bastards from St. Petersburg and from the Lake

[Drosselmeyer]

As much as I look, I’m so sure that you don’t know the story. A ruler may be any giant, but the courtiers are always stronger. For example, Caesar was killed, Catherine II masterfully maneuvered between the courtiers ...

[Djozz]

It does not remind you of anything! The pre-revolutionary period of Russia, embezzlement, Rasputin, the extortion of the Romanov family (the same untouchables), the State Duma verbiage and ministerial leapfrog and further on the list.

[Hon]

Quote: Djozz

It does not remind you of anything! The pre-revolutionary period of Russia, embezzlement, Rasputin, the extortion of the Romanov family (the same untouchables), the State Duma verbiage and ministerial leapfrog and further on the list.

It was always a pre-revolutionary period characterized primarily by terrorist acts of fanatical revolutionaries. Fortunately, there is no such thing, there are terrorist attacks, but it’s different, the Islamists are happy with it, and they have different goals.

[Djozz]

Let me disagree, the pre-revolutionary period was primarily characterized by stagnation of the economy, the decay of the top power, the impoverishment of the people, with the "gluttony" of the elite, venality of the judiciary and executive power! As for the terrorist attacks, they started with the murder of Alexander II, long before the revolution.

[Gur]

Guys, I’m in a trance and the money on the nightstands shoved in bags turned out to be a grandmother’s pension, but I also think if it weren’t going to finish the matter, then we didn’t start and we’ll see if this is false information, time will tell, and so shock of course I thought the heart wouldn’t be sent, but yes it turned out all worse pancake

[andr1966a]

Quote: bask

In dowry mode, Serdyukov, chubsy and other saw cutters, not touchable

We have effective managers, and in China they shoot such people. I really respect STALIN.

[WIN969]

After reconciling the acceptance certificates and the tender documentation, it turned out that the military not only was not damaged, but they still owed 20 million rubles. ”

What nonsense is this? All these documents are fake, and the judge is bought.

[Mihaylo Tishayshiy]

Brothers, why did you instruct the article so many minuses? Is there something wrong in it? Or did you expect something else from the government? I just want to repeat myself:

Mihaylo Tishayshiy RU  February 5, 2013 17:14 | Russia has two paths: either authoritarianism or “neo-Stalinism”


The last two days on our website so many copies have already been broken about Putin, and Serdyukov is such an odious figure that it is precisely whether he will be jailed or not, and will be the answer to the people, while Putin himself is with those who are "with Putin" or threw them ... I myself am not naive and will not be surprised at any outcome of the case. If Serdyukov gets what he deserves, then Mikhail Khazin and those members of the forum who support Putin are right. Well, if Putin puts the brakes on this case, then the plague will be on his head !!!

[Gur]

Article minus for bad news and I completely agree with you

[Yarosvet]

Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy

If Serdyukov gets what he deserves, then Mikhail Khazin and those forum users who are in favor of Putin are right. Well, if Putin puts the matter on the brakes, then, the plague on his head !!!

Yes - this is not naivety, it is rather primitivism of conclusions, when the conclusion is made on the basis of one fact taken out of context.

[OCD]

Yes, such investigators and such operational support.

[DPN]

It’s not the investigators who are to blame, just above *** you won’t jump or not the face team.

[Gur]

MOSCOW, September 24 - RIA Novosti. The case of embezzlement in Oboronservis may lose a number of episodes involving the ex-head of the department of property of the department Evgenia Vasilyeva, the former general director of Slavyanka Alexander Yelkin and ex-head of Agroprom Natalia Dynkova, Izvestia newspaper writes on Tuesday, citing sources close to the investigation. Meanwhile, the press service of the GVSU told the publication that "the investigation continues in full and all the initiated cases will be brought to a logical conclusion.

20,09,13 A Moscow court extended the house arrest of Evgenia Vasilyeva, a defendant in the Oboronservis case, for another two months, until November 23.

So I checked my head early with ashes for a number of reputable sources.

[Apollo]

Greetings to all, including our Esaul. This is who whom he lacks, here is the topic where he could "unsubscribe from the heart" given his writing style, who is who, but he has talent. But alas, he cannot write on these topics simply because it is not profitable, which is a pity. Anyway. could count on my unconditional support.
Now, regarding the topic of information. I take video and demotivators to your court. To write something does not make sense. The materials I have given speak for themselves.

[Gari]

Quote: Apollon

Greetings to all, including our Esaul.

And I welcome you, I read your comments in articles about your tanks and other military innovations, I did not write there, you think you will understand why.
I welcome your objective position, our national leaders and oligarchs are ruining our countries, all without exception of the former USSR.
And that such geeks as this stool were at the feeding trough, and still there is no forest fells or not at all against the wall, there are such everywhere and everywhere, like mold
Good luck to all comrades

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Bullshit war..Main maneuvers! ..serdyukovs and K...unsuccessfully not just to take .. (or rather, it’s possible for a trifle ..) untwist this snake ball .. Time is needed ..

[Hon]

Quote: MIKHAN

Bullshit war..Main maneuvers! ..serdyukovs and K...unsuccessfully not just to take .. (or rather, it’s possible for a trifle ..) untwist this snake ball .. Time is needed ..

Do you yourself believe in what you write?))) This is such a cunning plan of Putin, vigilance euthanizes a pier))) In the meantime, he is seating them in high positions, so that no one would guess ...

[Sergey_K]

With me a bottle of brandy if they plant. You can catch by the tongue ...

[New Russia]

Sorry off topic, need help! July 21 last year in the city of Kislovodsk (Stavropol) there was a mass brawl between the Cossacks and the local ethnic Caucasian gang. Five Cossacks of the local Cossack community stood up for a merchant who was robbed by Caucasians, as a result of which a fight broke out, Caucasians called for help, more than 15 people came from them, as it turned out later, local criminal investigators arrived along with Caucasians. Given the numerical advantage of the attacking Caucasians, the Cossacks used a traumatic gun, shooting in the air and a knife, the knife was used by Vasily Mokhov, they cut two Caucasians attacking him in a fight. Vasily Mokhov, taking into account the consequences of self-defense in our country, has been hiding for more than a year. This case caused a wide public outcry, I must say that after the publication of the fight (http://oxana-volva.livejournal.com/27832.html), the author began to receive threats of reprisal against me from people of Caucasian nationality. I urge all those who care to chip in a lawyer, as well as help the Vasily’s family, on a Sberbank card indicated by members of the Cossack community in circulation on the websitehttp: // Kislovodsk-Cossack-community. Russian Federation 4276860024686046 Ataman number 8-928-828- 13-75 Sergey Nesheret
WebMoney R111293358694
I also urge all Cossack communities, whether registered or unregistered, to demand the release of Vasily, since he acted like a real Cossack — he, without fear, defended himself and his own from attacking bandits. Also, in the case of conviction, it is necessary to seek his transfer to more favorable regions of Russia, since he will not be alive in the Caucasus.

[Alexxeg73]

Vlad Shurygin posted a post on his blog on the 16th: “AHTUNG! SERDIUKOV WENT TO LAUNDER.” I will quote:

“Then my comrades whispered to me that various editorial offices had received orders for publications on the OboronServis case. The bottom line is this: the case is falling apart, the investigation has no real data, the scale of the thefts is greatly exaggerated, Vasilyeva and Serdyukov do not have any foreign accounts or real estate. That’s all. , that it was published as a "PR" investigation. Both self-writing and ready-made texts are offered. Rates - from "three rubles" per text to the "author" plus a "price" for publication.
In general, as far as I understand, Serdyukov went for a wash. With all the consequences... "

[Russ69]

Vlad Shurygin posted a post on his blog on the 16th: “AHTUNG! SERDIUKOV WENT TO LAUNDER.” I will quote:

Who is the order from? After all, it can be calculated, no matter how much on bleaching the stool. And with the goal of once again running into the authorities.
Every stick has two ends...

[saber]

Damn it, you'll wash yourself off here! This is not a comic industry where everything is a secret, everyone has either acquaintances or relatives associated with the Moscow Region and they all saw how things were done there under this boar! Well, hello to Putin! Let him continue to fly with the birds and protect the striped pussies

[Yarosvet]

Quote: Saber

this is not the comic industry

[Hon]

Whose house is this?)

[Yarosvet]

Quote: Hon

Whose house is this?)

[slavik_gross]

They rolled, rolled and rolled, it’s a pity you can’t swear (............!.......!........!!!)

[mithridate]

Q.E.D! The case will be closed and no one will sit down and pay damages. How else would these scum not subsequently demand compensation for moral damage!

[koksalek]

This is not a consequence, this is a parody in a puppet theater

[DPN]

Everything is under the control of the GDP, he appointed him as a minister, when he should have removed him by showing who is boss. From here it is clear that no one except the GDP can touch him. And in the next 12 years there will be no one taller than Putin. They will only leave together; by that time they will have forgotten everything about Serdyukov.

[New Russia]

They will leave earlier than many people think) If we don’t give a damn about the country

[Colonelic]

Quote: New Russia

Serdyukov will never sit down. Putin doesn’t give up his own...

Never say never!
There is a higher justice...
I am sure and I hope so!!!

[New Russia]

Well, I mean “never” under Putin)

[Siberian]

Specialists of the Investigative Committee were unable to obtain evidence from the defendants in the Oboronservis case against Anatoly Serdyukov.

Those who steal bags from us testify against them and go to prison. And whoever is rushing in cars, as usual, there is nothing against them. Not ever again.

[Arabist]

You know, there is an American saying: “steal a loaf of bread and go to prison, steal a railroad and end up in the Senate.” So it was, so it is and so it will always be.

[New Russia]

This is a saying from the 20s)

[Arabist]

Does it matter what time it is from?

[New Russia]

Yes, in the 20s and 30s there was rampant crime and mafia in the USA)

[Arabist]

But now people are crystal honest and pure, right?

[New Russia]

We talked about selectivity of laws? In the USA, both rich and poor are imprisoned, they have no bad reputation

[Arabist]

Have you studied US criminal law? I - yes.

[Yarosvet]

Quote: Arabist

Have you studied US criminal law? I - yes.

[Arabist]

Madoff's pyramid was over 67.000.000.000 in size. dollars, Mavrodi has less, after all, plus Madoff created the mighty and great Nasdaq, one of the pillars of the American stock market. He did not print counterfeit dollars, for which he is serving a sentence.

[Yarosvet]

Quote: Arabist

Mavrodi has less

Yep - 145 years younger

[Arabist]

I meant the smaller size of the pyramid, and not the term of imprisonment.

[Yarosvet]

Madoff was charged 13 billion, Mavrodi 110 million.
Unofficially - 70 billion and 1 billion, respectively.

Madoff was convicted for 3 million 250 thousand average salaries, Mavrodi for 1 million 100 thousand average salaries (3 times less than Madoff).

It's all a matter of how you think.

[Scoun]

Quote: New Russia

Yes, in the 20s and 30s there was rampant crime and mafia in the USA)

Um. Did the Twin Towers, Pentalgon, Tower No. 7 imprison anyone? oh... only half the world was in a group with the presidents of "developed" countries with a flag in their hand and a pennant in their fifth, the bearers of "democracy"... what did the world community and the leaders of developed countries condemn?
Yes, they just don’t care about ordinary people... for them we are a resource and that’s all. shame won’t eat away at their eyes; we still have such a concept as shame.

[shtanko.49]

Quote: New Russia

Agree. The bandits of the 90s had more honor than the oligarchs, corrupt officials and the current Caucasian organized crime groups, no jokes

The current oligarchs are the same bandits, Putin has legitimized the loot. If Russians have at least a little self-respect left, if people want a future for their children, then we need to give up capitalism, this is a dead-end development of society, a handful of scoundrels own everything, this shouldn’t happen!

[ded10041948]

For that fought for it and ran! On the soul - like a cat shitting himself, it’s been a long time since I got hit in the face like that!

[Alexandr73]

Quote: kris

gentlemen, lovers of Putin, explain everything that happens!

What is not clear here? The envious people have slandered the most honest man, look at this beautiful face, in these most honest eyes, how can such a person steal anything? No way. He never took someone else's. It's time to be canonized, and you judge everything, jail, shoot. You are evil, he will leave you (to London).
By the way, a joke on the topic:
Interview with GDP
Journalist (F) - Vladimir Vladimirovich, is it true that Russian officials know the secret of eternal life?
VVP - Of course not, what nonsense, where did you get the idea?
F - Why then do they steal so much, because you would never spend that amount of money in an ordinary life?

[Apollo]

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[New Russia]

“You are evil, he will leave you (to London)” The main thing is that Putin does not leave, otherwise Russia will fall apart) After all, he saved Russia...

[michajlo]

Quote: pv1005 Today, 11:25 _130925/Wed

The question is, why are there such "specialists" in the GVSU who did not take into account, did not see, did not hear. For the PR, yes we are, yes we are, yes we are crushing naked Hedgehogs. But in fact, well, I didn't, I didn't. Then everything is printed ........................

Good afternoon dear Pavel!

Are you sure that the specialists, if “any honest and decent” were still left in the ICR, were allowed to search for something, find it and SUGGEST it to COURT?!

Where have you seen a FAIR PUNISHMENT system in the post-USSR (with the exception of the Republic of Belarus)?

In my opinion, it’s simply time to CHANGE everything, from the Soviet-Russian Constitution, the Code of Laws and the entire “theatrical” group of “steering and steering” and ending with “on the ground” at the level of a village, district, city, region.

[Day 11]

Let's not forget about these

[New Russia]

Medvedev brings down Putin with the help of Navalny and no one cares about the people)

[michajlo]

Den 11 (5) RU Today, 15:54 _130925/Wed

Good afternoon, dear Denis!

Thank you for the video, very good and relevant. There are many such methods and there WILL be even more. Post more, maybe some of the “activists” will recognize themselves there?

But all of us here who write and criticize, thank God, or alas for YOU, “some in the process,” do not write TO ORDER and FOR MONEY!

And WE (including myself) write or offer our conclusions, concerns and suggestions, so as NOT TO REPEAT our common mistakes from the 80-90s, which have not been fully analyzed. Well, the true “organizers, directors and performers” even receive state pensions and prudently do not stick their neck out, paying various “Aligarhof”, “brilliant young financiers” and “Industrialists” to play the role of “white horses” (Slovak name) and in Russian “dummy persons”.

“Gorbachev and Yeltsin” were thrown to the naive Soviet people like a bone,
- and everyone near them and after them are “ALREADY patriots”,
- for some reason they really do THE SAME thing,
Only the words perestroika, glasnost, etc. are not used in front of a television camera...

[saag]

Quote: New Russia

You are evil, he will leave you (to London)

So you need to offer him this, otherwise the court will confiscate it, what nonsense, and put a scarf in his suitcase as a parting gift :-)

[Seaman]

Oh-ho-ho!!!... And who would doubt anything! There have already been so many of them and there will be more!

[saag]

Quote: michajlo

In my opinion, it’s simply time to CHANGE everything, from the Soviet-Russian Constitution, the Code of Laws and the entire “theatrical” group of “steering and steering” and ending with “on the ground” at the level of a village, district, city, region.

What do you have to offer? :-)

[michajlo]

saag Today, 16:11 _130925/Wed

Good afternoon, dear “nickname” without a name!

To begin with, ALL those interested should familiarize themselves with the general outline of the contents of the “Code of Laws” and the Criminal Code in particular,
- in this case, in addition to the Section of Responsibilities that we all need (first of all, we all must comply with them!),
- go to the RIGHTS section.

And there you read that we, as individuals and an organized community of like-minded people, can undertake and implement, for example
- draw up the text of the REQUIREMENTS / “not a petition”),
- to sign them by the largest number of citizens who have a passport (to prevent the inclusion of “all sorts of provocateurs from the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB” or simply criminal elements into the ranks of ordinary citizens.
- well, those who are ready to “only yelp anonymously” from behind a blank fence against a “boyar and slaves” will obviously not sign up there, because their guts are thin and their insides are rotten...

Enough for a start?

[soldier's grandson]

Here is an example of courage and brotherhood, how you need to defend your team, your people, no matter what they do, they are always not to blame

[787nkx]

11 in March, the ex-minister answered questions from the TFR staff about construction work on the territory of a plot of land in the Volga delta. According to investigators, the work on the site was conducted by military personnel of one of the military units.

According to information from local residents, in the same area they reclaimed the island, supposedly for GDP, and are beautifying it to the highest standard.

[Imigrantt]

I think the system will destroy him, but not right away!!! Otherwise there will be a resonance))))) When Berezovsky ends up with a sudden urge to commit suicide!!!!!! And the sheep are safe and the wolves are fed!!!!!!

[z-exit]

"How Berezovsky will finish"
Don't upset people with gloomy forecasts! So the article killed the whole mood!
I don’t want the thief to end his life like Berezovsky. He lived a long and generally comfortable life! For some reason everyone forgets that he died an old man! He was 67 years old! This is quite good for Russia. My grandfather lived the same amount of time, even though my grandfather did not steal and was an honest man. My grandfather died of poverty and in agony (rotted alive, there was no money to treat him in the 90s). So, alas, I don’t perceive what you write (suicide at 67 years old) as terrible...

[soldier's grandson]

How much did Perdyuk and Vasilyeva go through during this process, they now have trauma in their souls, is this punishment not enough?

[saag]

Quote: michajlo

Enough for a start?

no, the most interesting thing is not indicated, what is in the requirements? Well, besides “down with it,” is there anything creative?

[Normal]

The investigation in the case of "Oboronservis" failed to obtain evidence on Serdyukov

Yes-ah-ah, really...
I remember an old parody of Soviet football
"- The striker receives the ball on the penalty line! - Handles!! - Handles,
processes. - Ob-ra-ba-you-va-et... - Couldn’t process it...

We are waiting for Serdyukov to return to some significant post...
And what? - pure, like an angel...
My congratulations to the pro-government...

[Yarosvet]

Quote: Normal

We are waiting for Serdyukov to return to some significant post...

[Bort radist]

It seems to me(?) that we have a decoy duck! With the Professor and Puyrchaty, everything is clear, this is their position, you can’t deny erudition. And then I smell a “cardboard fool.”

[Big giraffe]

Society is dangerous for Rafik

[valton]

Looks like the furniture maker fucked everyone.

[waisson]

and someone wanted a different ending, look, he will file a counterclaim and fuck all of Russia while the old team is in power and they won’t let their own people be offended. I want to remember a phrase from a comedy (it’s not my fault that he himself wanted)

[awg75]

I just want to scream ----- REGULATIONS SOLD ........................!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Moore]

The authorities had a unique chance to regain the trust of a considerable part of the population - service people, reservists, simply sympathizers and not indifferent to the fate of the country. It would seem that this is the wild hope for change. When the hour comes when a thief is in prison, a hero is held in high esteem, truth is the norm of life. Did not happen...
Rafik is innocent and did everything right. God's judgment remains...

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Moore

The authorities had a unique chance to regain the trust of a considerable part of the population - service people, reservists, simply sympathizers and not indifferent to the fate of the country

Why should they be so ideological? They have Churov, elections are guaranteed. Edro is practically everywhere, and their party policy is to approve all actions of the government and the president (well... you can warmly approve, it is allowed)
So why do they need us?

[earrings64]

vi nugni chtobi oni nevt vorovali

[Normal]

Quote: Moore

The authorities had a unique chance to regain the trust of a considerable part of the population - service people, reservists, simply sympathizers and not indifferent to the fate of the country... It didn’t happen...

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Why should they be so ideological? They have Churov, elections are guaranteed..... So why do they need us?

Really... Why are you in power? To take care of you? They have their own worries - how to arrange themselves. Why does the government need your trust? Can you show something to the authorities? You can't... Can you not vote for her? This “problem” is no longer a problem for the authorities. How can you draw the attention of the authorities to your needs and requirements? At least answer yourself...
And Serdyukov.... This is not even your problem.

[marinist]

As if they were expecting something else...
Serdyukov is now rubbing his hands. rejoicing. how easy it is in our country to steal under this government, and in a year they will apologize to him and award him the Order “For Services to the Fatherland” of any degree suitable for the thief.
Ps There are rumors that they want to appoint Taburetkin responsible for the development of Siberia and the Far East. As someone living in Siberia, such information does not inspire peace of mind.

[baytygan]

the seventeenth was approaching...

[SPACE]

Quote: kris

gentlemen, lovers of Putin, explain everything that happens!

...Their indignant minds are seething... Is this an orange holiday or an aggravation? What, where the wind blew, everyone flew there together!? Reading the article and the comments reminded me of the tribe of lemurs at the word “Fos”... Some write at the speed of AK, and as you know, the number of comments is inversely proportional to their meaning, this is one word call, and many of the same ones are already propaganda. It’s even cooler when one is looking for evidence of Putin’s guilt in Spain’s GDP and PPP, the other is looking for evidence of Putin’s guilt in the text of the constitution , and someone drew a red line on Serdyukov , well, at least someone is lucky now, what a joy it is, finally there is irrefutable evidence that it is not the fault of the Putin government, but of one’s own convictions. Naive, do you really think that it’s smart to accuse and imprison even former ministers? "What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull." This was clear as day from the first day of this epic, from the same day it should have ceased to be a relevant topic, and how many people here broke their spears. So, gentlemen seeking justice, what will you do now? Eh, bludgeon, shall we whoop?... I advise you to think carefully before drawing conclusions. No matter how much you would have to regret and repent later. Or again until the wind blows in the other direction? ... And most importantly, what are they accused of? It is quite common that state property was sold at a reduced price, and the very concept of liquid value is so elastic that it makes the accusation absurd, since it is difficult to prove. And it’s not about Stools, he’s just a “fulcrum”, everyone is looking in the wrong direction, most likely, someone needed to fan the dying fire of the “swamp revolution” through the media, so to speak, to warm up and ride the wave of real popular anger and as a “lever” » to dismantle the “Reinforced Concrete Putin regime”, everything is turning out too smoothly, first they opened a case and the people..., and now they closed the case..., in general, in such cases, “their own” don’t wash their dirty linen in public, which means someone is driving the wave another... In the end, friends are not sold or changed. Putin is far from simple and stupid, and he is not alone, and STATE AFFAIRS can they be understood from the position of primitive philistine interests... But that’s not all... but the local electorate doesn’t move in at all, it’s all emotions. Calm down, breathe more evenly.

[military]

Quote: SPACE

And it’s not about Stools, he’s just a “fulcrum”, everyone is looking in the wrong direction

and you are not so original... a significant part of the local "electorate" has long been looking not at the Stool, but at that ass that was sitting on it (it) all this time...

[SPACE]

Quote: military

a significant part of the local “electorate” has long been looking not at the Stool, but at that ass

You know, I suspected that liberals and blues are synonymous, but your words completely dispelled my doubts; this is also supported by the fact that blue is a combination of colors “frostbitten in a snowdrift.”

Quote: military

and you are not so original

That’s why you have original creativity, I personally don’t understand it, and it doesn’t characterize you from the best side.
Perhaps you really are looking in the wrong place, it is not known for sure who slipped or sawed off this rotten stool, but in any case, many have a short memory, was it really true that there was no Serbia, Ossetia, Libya... there were no swamp events, NGOs, just like there are no Novodvorskys, Alekseevs, Gozmans and Svanidzes, the USA and the State Department, Clintons and Rice and Macain, etc. Your intentions with them may be different, but your paths are incredibly similar... The crowd has no mind, which means it cannot organize itself, and if you see a herd of sheep marching in formation in one direction, then somewhere nearby there is definitely a shepherd... I wonder how Are you going to share the spoils, and aren’t you afraid that you’ll just get scammed?
Your comment, dear “V,” has again awakened my negative attitude towards the military, and if you have honor and conscience, then I advise you not to discredit the army and change your nickname, one strategically placed oak stool is enough.

[Prosha]

If the leadership of the Moscow Region in the person of Serdyukov and others like him were smarter, there would be no noise at all. It was enough for the subordinates to organize “Zarnitsa”, as is happening now, and Serdyukov would rule and reform until the end of time, until there was no one to send to maneuvers, and then you look and no one is indignant. And the indicator of justice in the country: the Adamov case - there is no article in Russia about thefts of millions, especially large amounts - no more than 30 thousand rubles, and everything else is a MIRAGE...


I'm ashamed that I'm Russian...

[Zomanus]

Hmm... Will they really let you go? Probably they will be reinstated in the government service. And for others the signal will be “Everything is fine, guys, let’s keep stealing.” Indeed, the reason was that she was moving to the left of Serdyukova, Zubkov’s daughter, it seems. The rich have their own level of squabbles.

[Semen Semyonitch]

What can I say? There are no words. The first “news” I read - and the mood was spoiled. For some reason, I have no desire to read further...

[evgenm55]

Quote: New Russia

It was not the bathhouse that you thought of, but read the branch that is individual for each enemy of the people from the beginning) Cops for people will not shoot and thieves and oligarchs will not be defended by anyone. The main thing is that Navalny doesn’t come after, but apart from Moscow naive fools, nobody needs him, all the same, in one place Putin’s propaganda about Navalny from the State Department is usefulXD)

There will be cops. It’s not for nothing that the authorities destroyed the Army, got rid of the officers of the Soviet school, while strengthening and deploying cop units in every possible way. Do you know the staff of the rifle brigade of the Moscow Region and the staff of the riot police? And how many regional commands of the explosives have been deployed? Probably to defend the borders of the Motherland. ..

[gunnerminer]

As Kommersant has learned, on the basis of prejudice, the main episode of the high-profile criminal case on large-scale thefts in the economic services of the Ministry of Defense, in which the former general director of Slavyanka OJSC and co-owner of Security and Communications CJSC ("BiS") Alexander is accused Elkin.
The Ministry of Defense admitted in arbitration that it has no financial claims against businessman Elkin; on the contrary, it owes him about 20 million rubles. for the maintenance and cleaning of their buildings. The court approved the voluntary repayment of debt between the parties, thus creating an extremely unfavorable precedent for the investigation.

[pahom54]

Quote: MIKHAN

I can’t calmly look at this face .. (if only in an arresting robe at a logging ..)

Judging by his face, Lombroso’s theory of physiognomy is confirmed... Well, with such a face, he can’t be a normal, decent person...

[SPACE]

...The locusts devoured the greens, drawing blood to those who disagreed... and then flew away to another field..., write new comments for the glory of the affairs of the country ruled by Putin, completely forgetting that just yesterday they threw mud at him. Only their comments remain...
ZY “You have the right to remain silent, anything you say can be used against you.”

[PValery53]

The authorities pretend that “the circus has left, but the clowns remain”... Therefore, Perdyukov is not subject to jurisdiction.

[Eksgayster]

What about the stolen one? Will they just write it off? There are no culprits, but there were thefts, who will return what was stolen?