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Pseudo-graduates - to clean water

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"Twice Colonel" Igor Korotchenko never graduated from the famous Military Academy named after M.V. Frunze


Pseudo-graduates - to clean water

Igor Yurievich Korotchenko - born in 1960, drafted in 1977, Moscow, graduated in 1982 from the Tambov Higher Engineering aviation school.

Igor Korotchenko himself begins to talk about himself like this: “He served in the units of the Air Force (1982 – 1984), the General Staff of the Air Force (1984 – 1987), the General Staff of the Armed Forces (1987 – 1994)”.

It remains to be clarified why he served in officer positions for only twelve years and was suddenly dismissed.

In 1982 – 1985, Igor Korotchenko served in the Air Force repair shop in the village of Velyaminovo, Moscow Region (his years in various positions, by the way, do not quite coincide with his official biography). In Igor Korotchenko's own stories, this small repair shop expands to the size of a large aircraft repair plant, and his insignificant position (primary officer, it should be noted) goes to the head of the leading department of this plant.

Then (1985 – 1989) Igor Korotchenko served at the Complex Technical Control Node, 406-laboratory of the Air Force General Staff. It sounds solid, but UKKTK is a very small unit responsible for the security of communications. Of course, in this military unit, the post of Igor Korotchenko was by no means the head of the knot.

The first significant increase occurred in 1989 year - Korotchenko was appointed head of the 1 group of the 992 group of the General Technical Monitoring Center (it’s possible that one or two military personnel were under his command at that time). In this position, Igor Korotchenko remained until the 1991 year.

In 1991, he was moved to the position of head of the technical control group. At the zenith of his officer career, Korotchenko sat in his headphones and listened to what others were saying on the phone.

In 1994, the officer service of Igor Korotchenko suddenly ended. He was dismissed in the rank of lieutenant colonel under sub-paragraph 2 G of paragraph 2 of article 49 of the federal law "On Military Duty and Military Service." In 1994, this meant: "If a soldier has ceased to meet the requirements set for him by the Law." In other words, this is the most defamatory article, according to which an officer from the Armed Forces could be dismissed.

So actually looks like a track record "commentator on all issues." Platoon, company, battalion is not commanded. In the fighting did not participate. Orders and medals were not awarded. To study at the Academy of the Armed Forces did not go.


And in this way, the final of the officer service of “the most quoted military expert of Russia” looks like (the phrase was recorded with the words “double colonel”). By the way, someone who resorts to such services of a “colonel of state security” should probably still have under his hands Igor Korotchenko’s genuine record of service and a copy of the order for his dismissal from the Armed Forces. In order to be fully aware of the competence of the next comment received from the false graduate of the Military Academy. M. V. Frunze.





The case, of course, is unique. For a long time, the Public Council under the Ministry of Defense was headed by a reserve lieutenant colonel who was expelled from the ranks of the Armed Forces according to the most defamatory article. In the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, thank God, they had somehow failed to think beforehand of putting the repeatedly convicted thief in law at the head of a similar body. And the discreditant and shirker Igor Korotchenko was engaged in "forming a positive image of the Armed Forces" (and, by the way, under the patronage of his guardians from the Ministry of Defense, he continues to do this at present). Truly, the pedophile was appointed head of the kindergarten. As for the "image formation", from this phrase alone, the thick smell of cutting budget funds just hits the nostrils.

However, in reality it’s scary after all, probably not this. High patrons of the "double colonel" and the false graduate of the Military Academy. M.V. Frunze from the military department is involved in the selection and promotion of personnel in the army and on navy. It’s just that the hair stands on end from the thought that candidates for the positions of commanders of formations and associations are selected in a similar way.

Published in issue number 37 (505) for September 25 2013, “Military Industrial Courier”
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  1. Clueless
    Clueless 25 September 2013 18: 31
    +1
    but for me personally do not care what was written above, he’s a normal man, he’s also a good journal, and he says the right thing
    1. zart_arn
      zart_arn 25 September 2013 18: 51
      88
      A normal man does not fasten paper epaulets to himself.
      1. krasin
        krasin 25 September 2013 20: 33
        +5
        Quote: zart_arn
        A normal man does not fasten paper epaulets to himself.

        And it turned out that way! I read it, who cares
        http://i-korotchenko.livejournal.com/
        1. slacker
          slacker 26 September 2013 09: 28
          +5
          The son of Lieutenant Schmidt or Lieutenant Kizhe of the 21st century - which is basically the same!
          And how do the Russian tops endure this rogue next to them?
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 26 September 2013 10: 33
            +7
            Tolerate!? Yes, they are all in the majority, the same crooks !!! And not only in the O. Council, dig in the government, some Jews are rightists rule RUSSIA, i.e.Russian! How long will the Russians rule not Russians? The president does not resign the Russian anti-people government !!!!!!!!!!!
    2. pravednik
      pravednik 26 September 2013 11: 23
      0
      You are great.
    3. Eugene
      Eugene 26 September 2013 16: 41
      -1
      I agree. The minuses were hung, of course ....
  2. 222222
    222222 25 September 2013 18: 32
    +2
    "The Marquis made a deal with the Marquis and broke the Marquise ... a brooch .. and, in order not to offend the baby, he bought her a new brooch" ... "the empire strikes back" == http: //i-korotchenko.livejournal.com /
  3. zart_arn
    zart_arn 25 September 2013 18: 34
    31
    Yes, "not some ep, but a Russian officer." In the old days, after such a shoot.
    1. Airman
      Airman 25 September 2013 18: 47
      34
      Quote: zart_arn
      Yes, "not some ep, but a Russian officer." In the old days, after such a shoot.

      And to him, at least c..you in the eye, he is all God's dew. These do not shoot, and do not even blush.
      1. zart_arn
        zart_arn 25 September 2013 18: 53
        +6
        These do not shoot, and do not even blush.
        You correctly noticed it.
    2. dark_65
      dark_65 25 September 2013 22: 21
      13
      It was the officers who fired, and it was the former OFFICERS., And not the current one (the bulk is trash).
      Take for example an individual like a dvorkovich (access is open to data)
      Order “For Merit to the Fatherland”, IV degree (2008)
      Order of Honor (2010) [9]
      Medal of the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland", II degree
      Medal “In memory of the 1000th anniversary of Kazan”
      Great officer of the Order of Merit for the Italian Republic (Italy, October 10, 2009) [10]

      And surely everyone knows the stool:
      From February 15, 2007 to November 6, 2012 - Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation. By the time he was appointed to the post, he had the military rank of senior lieutenant of the reserve, and at the time of his resignation, he was the colonel of the reserve [8]. In 2007, he completed courses at the Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
      Medal of Merit (FSSP, November 22, 2006) [104].
      The certificate of honor of the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation (April 2, 2008) - for active assistance and substantial assistance in organizing and conducting the election of the President of the Russian Federation [105].
      Order of the Holy Prince Prince Daniel of Moscow III degree (2009, ROC) [106].
      Order of Friendship of Peoples (Belarus, 2009) [107].

      Comment further?
      1. Konstantm
        Konstantm 26 September 2013 11: 21
        0
        It will not be enough, with such a roof. And how many and from whom?
        1. military
          military 26 September 2013 12: 27
          +1
          Quote: KonstantM
          It will not be enough, with such a roof. And how many and from whom?

          the former father-in-law (Mr. Zubkov) - all 4 degrees "For Services to the Fatherland" ... served the Fatherland tirelessly ... repeat not otherwise, as a rake on the famous "gallery" ...
      2. vlad_pr
        vlad_pr 26 September 2013 12: 17
        0
        It is surprising that not four times the hero of Russia, the order bearer of everything and everything ..., an honorary member ... etc. etc.
        Sincerely.
  4. alone
    alone 25 September 2013 18: 46
    24
    And in this way, the final of the officer service of “the most quoted military expert of Russia” looks like (the phrase was recorded with the words “double colonel”). By the way, someone who resorts to such services of a “colonel of state security” should probably still have under his hands Igor Korotchenko’s genuine record of service and a copy of the order for his dismissal from the Armed Forces. In order to be fully aware of the competence of the next comment received from the false graduate of the Military Academy. M. V. Frunze.


    "good" expert, there is nothing to say. I was especially surprised by the phrase "most quoted". These experts are the main problem of the army and security services. And besides, it turned out to be a swindler. The Criminal Code is crying about him.
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 25 September 2013 18: 47
      15
      Twice a colonel? What is it like?
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 25 September 2013 19: 05
        +7
        Minus here for what?
        1. sergey261180
          sergey261180 25 September 2013 19: 07
          26
          Minus here for what?
          Yes, this is Korotchenko minus! laughing
        2. zart_arn
          zart_arn 25 September 2013 19: 10
          +5
          This is a virtual minus, like Korotchenko’s epaulettes. Do not pay attention to the pros or cons.
          1. Arabist
            Arabist 25 September 2013 19: 14
            11
            Well, you're right. It's stupid to pay attention. It even became uncomfortable. sad
      2. Airman
        Airman 25 September 2013 22: 28
        +3
        Quote: Arabist
        Twice a colonel? What is it like?

        Penkovsky was three times a colonel - the GRU, the CIA and MI6. And this one is a "lieutenant colonel" and a colonel of the last two, otherwise it is impossible.
      3. Konstantm
        Konstantm 26 September 2013 11: 23
        +1
        Comrade two majors together, the company was asleep, the company stood up, the company went for breakfast ...
  5. sergey261180
    sergey261180 25 September 2013 18: 50
    10
    Take care of Kitty's pince-nez!
  6. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 25 September 2013 18: 55
    10
    Something liars anointed to power a lot with us.
    Shame on such "officers", no honor, no conscience.
    1. smile
      smile 25 September 2013 20: 06
      +5
      JIaIIoTb
      Such individuals always strive for politics. And their percentage follow politicians will always be greater. than among the people as a whole, it is not for nothing that politics is called a dirty deed. This is an axiom for any country. In opposition parties there are no fewer such, in some, much more.
  7. Rezun
    Rezun 25 September 2013 19: 06
    +4
    Sooner or later, everyone will find his own ...

    http://moment-istini.ru/news/1400.html
    http://moment-istini.ru/news/997.html
  8. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 25 September 2013 19: 07
    +9
    It turned out funny. False colonels already exist, as soon as the imperial princes and false generals appear in the tsarist army. In childhood, I dreamed of becoming rear admiral, it just sounds unusual and the shape is beautiful, I can manage the documents myself or something, I’ll gladden the children. And you can introduce yourself as a grandson of Admiral Kalchak.
    1. smile
      smile 25 September 2013 20: 08
      +4
      chunga-changa
      Yeah, or the son of Lieutenant Schmidt ... :)))
    2. understudy
      understudy 26 September 2013 12: 10
      +1
      Unfortunately, there are generals ...
      "The diploma of the second higher - legal - education of the press secretary of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Markin, which paved the way for him to the rank of general, was declared invalid ... The order was issued by Rosobrnadzor.
      The decision to award Markin the qualification "lawyer" in the specialty of "jurisprudence" was canceled by order No. 2244 dated October 20 ... many violations were revealed ... "(c)
      And nothing has changed. Nobody shot himself, only on the screen Markin stopped flaunting in a general's uniform. And this is in the citadel of "law enforcement". Alas and ah! request
    3. vlad_pr
      vlad_pr 26 September 2013 12: 54
      +2
      Laughter is laughter, but now it's easy. The magnitude of the rank, the length and depth of centuries of pedigree, "roots", even from the creation of the world and the progenitors of mankind, are determined only by the thickness of your wallet. Prices and addresses for any search engine are elementary. Faced with such nonsense during the "perebudova" (perestroika) in Ukraine (then it was on, and not on) considered it foolish, but as it turned out, many acquaintances independent and independent, took it seriously. And from the little guy Kizyakolupenko suddenly began to appear pans with roots not even from the Radziwills, but generally from Attila. Unfortunately, by the beginning of the 90s (maybe before, I didn’t often go on business trips to the capital, more often in Ukraine and St. Petersburg), it struck us too. Do not think that this applies to you, just such false generals, some descendants of ancient clans from the "White Book of Russia" were bred as dogs that were not cut.
      Grandchildren, as well as children before, still "torment" my cap and caps. Happy as Bobby. I apologize for the verbiage. Sincerely.
      PS. Kolchak, of course, is an ambiguous figure. An excellent hydrographer, brave and thoughtful naval commander, but having become the "Ruler of Omsk", he broke his memory and turned into a Kalchak. Sincerely.
  9. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 25 September 2013 19: 24
    +5
    "Who lied once, who will believe you?"
    Kozma Prutkov
  10. abdrah
    abdrah 25 September 2013 19: 27
    16
    Is in the book G.V. Morozov, V.A. Romasenko's “Nervous and Mental Illnesses”, published after the Soviet time by such a character as Melnikov Gleb Yakovlevich, nicknamed Chapaivets, three times Hero of the World, Headquarters of Heavy Machine Gun Divisions, which has the right to carry on all sides chests of all world orders, medals and other shiny items, an activist he also made himself a xivu, from which the above was taken. So this was described as a severe case of mental disorder- THE MANIA OF GREATNESS, it’s a sin to laugh with it, but you should ask the colonel twice, wherever he served and what he ended up with!
    1. Naval
      Naval 25 September 2013 21: 59
      +4
      I remember in my homeland, too, was quietly insane, not evil, in a military town he was dressed in his old decommissioned form, fed. But even he did not allow himself officer shoulder straps, only foreman shoulder straps laughing , but there were a lot of various icons. The whole city called him Leni Rokossovsky, I don’t know how his real name is, and they never offended me.
      It seems that the "expert" is doing much worse, so the title "twice colonel"
  11. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 25 September 2013 19: 37
    11
    So what ? Everything is like everyone else. In the United States, a lady who graduated from a provincial university and awarded herself a doctorate was an "expert" on Syria; in the Russian Federation, the main "military expert" turned out to be a blown bubble. I assure you in any normal country such good is present. Do you know that it is good that these people are calmly exposed and they quietly go into the shadows, without squealing, blood and tearing of shirts.
    1. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 25 September 2013 19: 53
      +6
      This one will not go into the shadows, this one will knock out a general for himself.
  12. waisson
    waisson 25 September 2013 19: 38
    +3
    I would give him the rank four times a colonel and send him to lieutenant penis once having lied it is difficult to wash
  13. Vlaleks48
    Vlaleks48 25 September 2013 19: 44
    +3
    A vivid popular expression - "d --- mo always pops up" is topical and we see it very clearly from our media!That's just a pity that it does not sink!
  14. andrei332809
    andrei332809 25 September 2013 19: 51
    +2
    maybe someone in Moscow will meet him with a "medal in the face". or does he not walk?
  15. VikVik741
    VikVik741 25 September 2013 20: 05
    +5
    Not so long ago there was an article about the American pseudo-expert on Syria, which was quoted even by respected stellar-striped senators. But we, it turns out no worse in this matter. recourse
  16. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 25 September 2013 20: 09
    +5
    Who would have checked is Medvedev, he’s somehow lying.
  17. NEMO
    NEMO 25 September 2013 20: 14
    12
    I can’t say anything about the military service and the activities of Korotchenko I. Yu., But is written in the extract from the order on dismissal given in the article nonsense:
    Subject to military registration in department 2 North-West HVAC of Moscow

    Let me ask you: - Who works in the personnel department of the district ???, or they did not know that before the "reform" of 2009. In all military commissariats of Russia the following responsibilities were assigned to departments:
    - 1 department - mobilization of military personnel and military equipment;
    - 2 department - Appeal of citizens for military service;
    - 3 department - accounting of officers and warrant officers of the reserve and their distribution according to the WM;
    - 4 department - registration of soldiers and sergeants of the reserve and their distribution according to the WM;
    Judging by the extract from the order, which is given in the article, Lieutenant Colonel I. Korotchenkov must be registered with the military commissariat, at the place of residence, as candidate for military service wassat . To the author of the article - before writing the "left" Extracts from the Orders - Carefully Study the Guiding Documents !!! soldier
    1. Fin
      Fin 26 September 2013 11: 18
      -1
      Quote: NEMO
      but in the cited, in the article, extract from the order on dismissal, nonsense is written:

      You noticed everything correctly. They just did not take into account that the extracts at that time were made on a typewriter by a typist or a clerk who did not print "Secret" and confused the department. There were several dozen or even hundreds of military units in such orders. Human factor.
      About Korotchenko is not the first article, and he did not answer. So it is.
      1. Vyacheslav
        Vyacheslav 26 September 2013 11: 37
        +2
        If you are not familiar with secret office work, do not carry nonsense.
      2. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 26 September 2013 12: 12
        +2
        You noticed everything correctly. They just did not take into account that the extracts at that time were made on a typewriter by a typist or a clerk who did not print "Secret" and confused the department. There were several dozen or even hundreds of military units in such orders. Human factor.
        About Korotchenko is not the first article, and he did not answer. So it is.



        Chipboard combat orders (for slab use are typed in the front part by typists or the front officer, without tolerance) and are counted in the front part. Secret orders are printed in the secret part by authorized typists in the machine book, they have a separate account in the secret part, in the order book. if he wants to, he won’t mix it up. You are not familiar with paperwork and document accounting, especially with a secret one.
        1. Fin
          Fin 26 September 2013 12: 45
          -2
          Quote: gunnerminer
          You are not familiar with paperwork and accounting documents, especially with a secret one.

          Not deeply familiar. The fact that this is done in secret and they have a separate account, it is known to all w / c, it was not worth explaining.
          Question to a specialist: if you give an extract from a secret order "to the side", will you close (shade) the "Secret" stamp or not?
          And do not discount the mistake, because of this, the missiles fall, despite the triple control.
          Quote: Vyacheslav
          If you are not familiar with secret office work, do not carry nonsense.

          You will poke the shepherds in the next field.
          1. Vyacheslav
            Vyacheslav 26 September 2013 13: 21
            +2
            OK. Again. YOU ARE BORING AGAIN !!!

            Question to a specialist: if you give an extract from a secret order "to the side", will you close (shade) the "Secret" stamp or not?

            An extract from a secret order will be the same with the corresponding stamp.
            This is not the point, the order to dismiss cannot be secret, and therefore it cannot begin with "0". The materials of the check in relation to the employee, the conclusion on the check, the conclusion of the attestation commission can be classified, but there is no order to dismiss.
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            2. Fin
              Fin 26 September 2013 14: 28
              0
              Quote: Vyacheslav
              An extract from a secret order will be the same with the corresponding stamp.
              This is not the point, the order to dismiss cannot be secret, and therefore it cannot begin with "0".

              Talked with a secretary. Extract from a secret order, depending on the information contained in it m. unclassified. Tomorrow will give articles of order No.X46 / 2006. Before that, it was the same.
              And the orders for dismissal at that time were secret, to calculate on the sale of., Things., Fin., The heads of services familiarized themselves in secret. Or were you not yet serving? Think about bullshit.
              1. kripto
                kripto 26 September 2013 19: 07
                0
                Then a similar question to YOU, and YOU yourself then served at that time, which would be so categorically stated. Secret orders on personnel have been issued and are still being issued only with respect to servicemen who occupy certain again orders, categories of posts in units of which they are again not disclosed. In the case of an unclassified extract from the order, its number cannot be changed in any case.
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    2. kripto
      kripto 26 September 2013 18: 59
      0
      Let me add that the order number is somehow strange. Why would an order on personnel be with "zero". It may be that they could have confused the number of the UWC department, but when registering, putting a "zero" in the secret order is nonsense. Judging by the track record, he had nothing to do with unspoken units.
      1. Fin
        Fin 26 September 2013 19: 35
        0
        Quote: kripto
        Then a similar question to YOU, and YOU yourself then served at that time,

        1986 to 2010 year
        Quote: kripto
        In the case of an unclassified extract from the order, its number cannot be changed in any case.

        And where did you see in the article (post) that the number of the dismissal order has been changed?
        Quote: kripto
        but when registering to put a "zero" of the secret order is nonsense.

        And what is nonsense then? At that time, orders to dismiss officers were secret!!!
        Do you disagree with that?
  18. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 25 September 2013 20: 17
    +5
    "Fake" engineers, "fake" doctors, "fake" officers and it is absolutely certain that their consciences are also "fake". So what to expect from people with "fake" knowledge? I think no good. These are saboteurs inside the country.
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 26 September 2013 11: 53
      +2
      I know in Simferopol two of these. Rear Admiral and Major General. Typically, both are former political leaders. And I also know the colonel who was transferred to the reserve with the captain's epaulettes lol
      1. svp67
        svp67 26 September 2013 11: 55
        +2
        Quote: Misantrop
        And I also know the colonel who was transferred to the reserve with the captain's epaulettes
        With generals and admirals, of course, it is very difficult, but with a certain nimbleness of the "colonel", in reserve from the "captain" you can grow up, quite officially ...
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 26 September 2013 14: 10
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          "Colonel" with a certain nimbleness, in reserve from the "captain" can grow, quite officially ...
          The official version is indeed available. Go through retraining, pass tests and get the next rank with a record in your personal file. I know. But the whole question is that these ones have never been retrained at any time. Just paid money wink
          1. Pushkar
            Pushkar 26 September 2013 17: 03
            0
            And Zhirik how?
      2. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 26 September 2013 12: 15
        +2
        I know in Simferopol two of these. Rear Admiral and Major General. Typically, both are former political leaders. And I also know the colonel who was transferred to the reserve with the captain's epaulettes



        Kharkov organization of the Navy veterans is led by midshipman Pleshenko, a former OSNAZ 4Escpl KSF soldier, speaks at meetings in the form of rear admiral, builds and chases captains of the 1st rank (retirees), yells at officials quite qualified.
      3. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 26 September 2013 13: 17
        0
        Kharkov organization of the Navy veterans is led by midshipman Pleshenko, a former OSNAZ 4Escpl KSF soldier, speaks at meetings in the form of rear admiral, builds and chases captains of the 1st rank (retirees), yells at officials quite qualified.
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  19. Theophanes
    Theophanes 25 September 2013 20: 22
    +1
    They need to be planted. One should be planted with the selection of ranks and property, the rest is a lesson.
  20. Moore
    Moore 25 September 2013 20: 34
    +2
    Thanks to the author who did not disdain to understand this shit.
  21. Seaman
    Seaman 25 September 2013 20: 37
    +3
    Quote: JIaIIoTb
    Shame on such "officers", no honor, no conscience.

    This is not an officer, this is a dog!
  22. stranik72
    stranik72 25 September 2013 20: 38
    +5
    Nda situevina, and he seems to be a good expert (journalist). Pushkin, as a person, also said it was not ice. In any case, he did not shoot at the "White House". Although I don't even understand why he needed an "infantry" academy? In general, disgusting, Although I remember in Yeltsin's times there was General Dima, in my opinion, Yakubovsky, who seemed to become generals in 3 years and not just anywhere but in special communications, maybe it is contagious in their connection?
  23. ivanich
    ivanich 25 September 2013 20: 38
    +3
    Someone started a wave and we all joined in a pseudo discussion. Something similar has already happened with Serdyukov and his blondes, and how will it end? There is already talk at the Mayak RS that they are already going to acquit Sergei Anatolyevich and drop the charges.
  24. pinecone
    pinecone 25 September 2013 20: 41
    +3
    At the end of last month, I heard the forecast of this "expert" regarding Syria in a radio program Voice of Russia. Brehliv and self-confident to the extreme. He wrote down the entire program of the proposed actions of the US Armed Forces. How the huchi tuyevs of tomogavks fly and destroy the entire command structure of the Syrian army, how all kinds of very effective and high-precision weapons will be guided from satellites to pre-selected targets, naval aviation and so on. In a word, he sang the praises of America, so brightly and colorfully that any Western television and radio observer would envy him.
  25. Vyacheslav
    Vyacheslav 25 September 2013 20: 47
    +5
    Reference:
    The Chairman of the Editorial Board of the Military Industrial Courier is Igor Ashurbeyli. This is the very Ashurbeyli who was the Director General of the military NGO Alkaz-Antey.
    http://topwar.ru/17646-federalnaya-sluzhba-bezopasnosti-rossii-dolzhna-provesti-
    polnomasshtabnuyu-proverku-v-otnoshenii-igorya-ashurbeyli.html

    So do not rush to conclusions regarding Korotchenko. And yet, such references given in the article are easily made on a computer in a couple of hours.
    1. abrosig
      abrosig 27 September 2013 16: 34
      0
      The way it is. Only Korotchenko writes about the affairs of Ashurbeli without hiding his face, and he acts through registered hacks.
  26. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 25 September 2013 20: 52
    -1
    Most likely desa (Kurginyan was also accused of having accounts in Cyprus).
    A person shows the correct position, and his good name is discredited.
    1. matross
      matross 26 September 2013 11: 06
      +1
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      Most likely desa

      If deza - let him refute, or his classmates at the academy will refute, for sure there are graduates among the respected community.
      1. Ivan Tarasov
        Ivan Tarasov 26 September 2013 17: 48
        0
        Wait and see.
  27. ivanich
    ivanich 25 September 2013 20: 53
    0
    In modern Russia, discrediting happens ... easily. There is demand, there will be supply. So this should not be discussed. As Vladimir Semyonovich sang: "The giraffe is big, he knows better."
  28. Iskander1369
    Iskander1369 25 September 2013 20: 57
    +2
    Of course, this is not an officer - this is scum !!!
  29. Mark III
    Mark III 25 September 2013 21: 00
    +4
    In addition: `In the army, Korotchenko did not even command a platoon; he never worked in the defense industry complex (and even in ordinary posts). I heard something somewhere. Somewhere I spotted something. In general, he judges everything on a whim. ”

    In modern Russia, this is quite enough to be (just a list):

    Member of the Presidium of the Public Council at the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation;
    Chairman of the Commission on Outreach and Raising the Prestige of Military Service;
    expert consultant of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation on issues of the military-industrial complex;
    member of the Central Council of DOSAAF of Russia;
    Member of the Expert Council of the Interdepartmental Working Group under the Presidential Administration for Cooperation with NATO in the field of missile defense.
    Particularly touching, if you will, is the fact that Korotchenko is "the chairman of the commission for information and propaganda support and increasing the prestige of military service."
  30. chushoj
    chushoj 25 September 2013 21: 08
    +4
    Legally, this is a fake of documents. Humanly, this is scary. In such a position, he could be in any commissions and ruin more than one hundred good beginnings. I once had a chance to talk with a major of the landing troops. In the first 5 minutes I told him in the eye that he did not serve and cannot be any major. I lost the argument on this subject. He really did not serve. Somewhere he took documents that he was kicked out of a military school. After he became a major of the landing troops as an employee of the military enlistment office.
    1. sellrub
      sellrub 25 September 2013 21: 41
      -1
      Well done, Buddy! Well done!
    2. Vyacheslav
      Vyacheslav 25 September 2013 21: 49
      0
      And here is one more extract: pay attention to the location of the stamp "COPY CORRECT" relative to the seal of the military registration and enlistment office, fully correspond to the location of these prints in the extract that is given in this article. This suggests that the photo of the document given in the article and posted by me was taken from the same original. However, one has the signature of the person who made the copy, and in the other they forgot to draw. In addition, in the copy given by me, the photoshop blurring of the seal of the military unit is clearly visible.
      Here are other documents: http://www.ofizer.ru/news/u_ministra_serdjukova_vezde_svoi_ljudi/2012-05-03-1482

      in which the hand of Photoshop is viewed more openly.
      I think this is an attempt to discredit a person. For what and who needs not to me.
  31. sellrub
    sellrub 25 September 2013 21: 36
    +1
    Laugh! Sincere laughter! Who was the Supreme Commander at that time? And, we still convince ourselves that Russia will be eternal.
    No need to fool yourself. The country is governed by such as Korotchenko and Chubais.
    And that means, even during our lifetime, we will see in fact the ruins of the Russian Federation along the lines of Yugoslavia. We will ruin ourselves.
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 25 September 2013 21: 45
      +1
      Well, well, hope. I doubt it very much. And Yugoslavia did not fall apart on its own, if you forgot.
  32. sellrub
    sellrub 25 September 2013 21: 44
    +4
    Quote: stranik72
    Nda situevina, and he seems to be a good expert (journalist). Pushkin, as a person, also said it was not ice. In any case, he did not shoot at the "White House". Although I don't even understand why he needed an "infantry" academy? In general, disgusting, Although I remember in Yeltsin's times there was General Dima, in my opinion, Yakubovsky, who seemed to become generals in 3 years and not just anywhere but in special communications, maybe it is contagious in their connection?

    Why did this "false colonel" choose the Frunze Academy?
    Very simple! If he declared that he graduated from the academy in profile, he would have been exposed immediately! Smile.
  33. Vyacheslav
    Vyacheslav 25 September 2013 22: 03
    +2
    Quote: NEMO
    I can’t say anything about the military service and the activities of Korotchenko I. Yu., But is written in the extract from the order on dismissal given in the article nonsense:
    Subject to military registration in department 2 North-West HVAC of Moscow

    Let me ask you: - Who works in the personnel department of the district ???, or they did not know that before the "reform" of 2009. In all military commissariats of Russia the following responsibilities were assigned to departments:
    - 1 department - mobilization of military personnel and military equipment;
    - 2 department - Appeal of citizens for military service;
    - 3 department - accounting of officers and warrant officers of the reserve and their distribution according to the WM;
    - 4 department - registration of soldiers and sergeants of the reserve and their distribution according to the WM;
    Judging by the extract from the order, which is given in the article, Lieutenant Colonel I. Korotchenkov must be registered with the military commissariat, at the place of residence, as candidate for military service wassat . To the author of the article - before writing the "left" Extracts from the Orders - Carefully Study the Guiding Documents !!! soldier


    In addition: on the order to dismiss Korotchenko No. 01951 of the RF Ministry of Defense must be classified as "secret" for the numbers of all secretaries. orders start with "0".
  34. Naval
    Naval 25 September 2013 22: 10
    +5
    Fake certificates, fake diplomas, fake registrations and work permits, fake medical books, fake dissertations, fake scientists and officers with generals, fake awards .... etc.
    Maybe we need something to fix in the conservatory? M. Zhvanetsky
  35. michajlo
    michajlo 25 September 2013 22: 17
    +2
    Good evening everyone!

    Yes, one of the members of the forum is right, who said here above that the possibilities of computer technology for producing "supposedly secret copies of important documents" are endless.
    It will be interesting to read the opinions of specialists on document circulation in the army and on IT / image processing.

    But on the other hand, in such cases, and falsification of documents, or appropriation of non-existent merits, these are not isolated cases, but what a rapidly spreading infection is cleaner than "Hong Kong flu." angry

    And thirdly, in such cases, you can’t say better than the old proverb: “What is the pop, such is the parish”. negative
    1. ivanich
      ivanich 26 September 2013 07: 32
      +3
      "What is the pop, so is the arrival", this is you to the point ...
  36. Sterlya
    Sterlya 25 September 2013 22: 39
    +1
    interesting. What kind of military past does Serdyukov have, what academies did he graduate from, and who appointed the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation for what merits? I never took him seriously, and therefore I was never interested, and now, in the light of all the events, it's somehow disgusting at all. and if anyone knows to read here it would be possible. and forget it.
    1. chushoj
      chushoj 25 September 2013 23: 06
      +3
      I want to adjust a little. Specific people are now appointing, not a commission or a council. Therefore, appoint one who will be easily manageable.
    2. creak
      creak 26 September 2013 00: 02
      +2
      Prior to his appointment as Minister, Serdyukov’s military past consisted of military service in 1984-85 and officer courses (reserve lieutenant).
  37. Max otto
    Max otto 25 September 2013 23: 25
    +1
    Yes, damn it, how to find out the truth? The above documents are linden, is the official biography also a linden? So who is he?
  38. konvalval
    konvalval 26 September 2013 00: 00
    +1
    Yeah, in truth your deeds are wonderful, Lord.
  39. Ragoz
    Ragoz 26 September 2013 00: 13
    +3
    How could such a man reach the rank of lieutenant colonel? Apparently he was actively supported by some very "HAIRY HAND" - probably you need to think about this and reveal the entire criminal chain !!!!
  40. Ragoz
    Ragoz 26 September 2013 00: 21
    0
    I wonder how such a God forgive me "figure" was able to rise to the rank of lieutenant colonel, who do not correspond to this rank. Only he had a very "HAIRY" hand, isn't it time to spin this whole chain and get to the source to clean it !!!
  41. waleri
    waleri 26 September 2013 04: 26
    +4
    Hello! Not only the "HAIRY HAND" but also the "HAIRY CIRCLE OF HER FRIENDS", thanks to such connections, they climb into government officials, and then they take offense that the party of power and its members, the people vilify in every possible way, and not only on the sidelines, but also in the press ... They forget that they live among people. It's a shame! so i think
  42. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 26 September 2013 08: 07
    +1
    Quote: chushoj
    Specific people are now appointing, not a commission or a council. Therefore, appoint one who will be easily manageable.

    The root of evil.
  43. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 26 September 2013 08: 47
    +2
    hit a man! the PR man is still one ...
  44. ale-x
    ale-x 26 September 2013 08: 48
    +2
    And who remembers how it was possible to quit the Russian Armed Forces in the early 90s? Was it easy to do? Not at all! Only under a similar article could. As in Soviet times, officers were fired only with similar wordings. I mean, the article on which this subject was dismissed is a common thing for those years.
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 26 September 2013 12: 01
      +3
      Quote: ale-x
      And who remembers how it was possible to quit the Russian Armed Forces in the early 90s? Was it easy to do?
      Just at the beginning of the 90s this could have been done, then a massive reduction in military units began. In the 80s, it really wasn’t really possible to quit normally, only because of illness or defamation.
      And in the 90s - not very difficult. Especially if there is no particular desire to serve further. You are transferred to the part going under reduction and you normally leave for the reserve
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 26 September 2013 12: 17
        +1
        Since in the early 90s it could have been done, then a massive reduction in military units began




        That's right. I’ll add up. Since December 1989, you could quit pretty quickly. Especially the senior officer.
  45. Yura
    Yura 26 September 2013 09: 26
    +1
    How many rope do not curl, and the end will be!
  46. individual
    individual 26 September 2013 09: 32
    +2
    I.Yu. Korotchenko, you are thrown a glove.
    It is the duty of the officer to pick her up and answer to admit the facts or not.
    Otherwise, it will look like an act of a petty and petty person
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 26 September 2013 11: 10
      -2
      I.Yu. Korotchenko, you are thrown a glove.
      It is the duty of the officer to pick her up and answer to admit the facts or not.
      Otherwise, it will look like an act of a petty and petty person



      Why so much pathos! Not at a meeting of the party commission of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the USSR. You didn’t throw the glove. Besides, I.Yu. Korotchenko is in civilian life, in stock.
    2. Misantrop
      Misantrop 26 September 2013 12: 02
      +4
      Quote: individ
      I.Yu. Korotchenko, you are thrown a glove.
      It is the duty of the officer to pick her up and answer to admit the facts or not.

      I'm afraid he will ask for a second glove instead. That the couple was, what for him alone? laughing
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 26 September 2013 12: 18
        0
        I'm afraid he will ask for a second glove instead. That the couple was, what for him alone?




        I don’t understand the whole story, what goals are being pursued? So much fuss.
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 26 September 2013 13: 57
          +3
          Quote: gunnerminer
          I do not understand the whole story, what goals are being pursued?

          Yes, just disgusting. My father, having retired as an aviation colonel in the USSR Navy, very quickly stopped coming to meetings of veterans in uniform. Simply because the farther from the time of dismissal, the more around there appeared such "colonels", whom he remembered in the major and captain's shoulder straps (with whom they went to the reserve). How many times I myself have been offered (for quite little money) "to assign the next rank." Just the FUCK is it necessary? The captain's epaulettes of rank 3 are quite enough for me and my honestly earned
          1. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 26 September 2013 14: 18
            +3
            Yes, it's disgusting.




            On the platform, near the Mausoleum, where veterans of the Great Patriotic War were invited by invitation, they had to see veterans, aged 55-60 years old, with orders of the Great Patriotic War of all degrees, stars of Heroes, Red Star, dressed with violations of the rules for wearing awards, with epaulets not lower than the colonel , mostly-major-general-or-counter-admiral-. I saw an elderly woman of Asian appearance in the rostrum this year — a major general with artillery buttonholes, aged 46-50. Not sober. How are they get invitation cards? Who misses them to government oh tribune.
  47. pahom54
    pahom54 26 September 2013 09: 56
    +3
    The article says: "the case is unique ..." ... Yes, not unique !!! If you check ALL those who have attached themselves to power and next to it, there will be a great variety of such assignments of various titles. Example - Zhirik, dismissed with the rank of captain, is now a reserve colonel and for some reason "proudly" wears the uniform of an airborne colonel. Hey, paratroopers, how do you react to this? And a certain chanting medic, dismissed from the Armed Forces also with the rank of captain, is now walking around in the uniform of a captain of the first rank ... Ah ... In general, there are a lot of them, and they have a biography - well, just to be hung with all kinds of orders .. ...
    And those who served with dignity - at the same time, are unworthily forgotten by the state ...
    1. creak
      creak 26 September 2013 10: 27
      +4
      At the turning points of our history or a sharp change in course, foam always emerges ... As they say in the East: "When the caravan turns back, the lame camel is in front." So these flawed ones, who did not finish playing the war, flaunt, in other people's uniforms with incomprehensible awards. This is such a way of self-assertion, they don't know how to do it differently or are weak ...
      1. dmb
        dmb 26 September 2013 13: 08
        +1
        I recall one more Gorkom worker who also grew up in defense ministers and army generals.
  48. mithridate
    mithridate 26 September 2013 10: 17
    +3
    or megalomania or inferiority complex
  49. Byordovvv1
    Byordovvv1 26 September 2013 11: 08
    +1
    There are relevant articles in the Criminal Code, where the term of imprisonment is not small. I hope that after the publication of this article, law enforcement agencies will deal closely with this defendant and search for such false experts at all public service posts.
  50. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 26 September 2013 11: 13
    +2
    The order number with an in front of the serial number means the order is secret. The officer’s personal file is classified-secret. It isn’t issued to the officer. How did the original secret order jump out of the file and hit the scanner? Perhaps someone from the district military enlistment office staff tried.
    1. military
      military 26 September 2013 12: 56
      +2
      Quote: gunnerminer
      Perhaps one of the employees of the regional military registration and enlistment office tried.

      and then slapped the seal and stupidly signed? ... (this "someone" with free access to the press, sick in the head? hardly ...)
      by the way, the seal of the OVK is "orlovannaya", but I personally see the poorly readable seal of the military unit as a seal with the union emblem ... why would that be? ...
      1. military
        military 26 September 2013 13: 15
        +1
        and, by the way ... the certificate from the "academy" has a nuance ... for some reason, it is unnumbered ... office work (PMO No. 170), in fact, provides for the numbering of certificates with their registration in the register ...
        probably, the "personnel officer" did not study PMO No. 170 very meticulously ... repeat
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 26 September 2013 14: 25
          +2
          in fact, the numbering of certificates is provided with their registration in the journal ...




          + 100!
        2. Fin
          Fin 26 September 2013 22: 46
          +1
          Quote: military
          and, by the way ... the certificate from the "academy" has a nuance ... for some reason, it is unnumbered ... office work (PMO No. 170), in fact, provides for the numbering of certificates with their registration in the register ...
          probably, the "personnel officer" did not study PMO No. 170 very meticulously ... repeat

          See carefully Ref No. 207/1371, PMO No. 170 is no longer valid. Instead, the Provisional Instructions for Record Keeping in the RF Armed Forces of August 19, 2009, No. 205/2/588.
          Quote: gunnerminer
          How did the original secret order jump out of the file and hit the scanner?

          The original in the RF Ministry of Defense is ONE! The rest is all statements that are unclassified. Personal files have not been secret for over 10 years. What else do not like in the documents?
    2. kripto
      kripto 26 September 2013 19: 18
      0
      Deuce! Where do you see the original order, linden issued for discharge!