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Until now, the invincible Red Army ("Gazeta Wyborcza", Poland)

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Until now, the invincible Red Army ("Gazeta Wyborcza", Poland)

Our neighbors have Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, a journalist by training, and an official responsible for the military-industrial complex and the space industry by occupation. He is an experienced, albeit often overly emotional, diplomat. In January, he, as a child, rejoiced in successful trials of the new nuclear submarine Yuri Dolgoruky. Flotilla Such Borey-class ships equipped with Bulava ballistic missiles should become the main and most formidable element of the Russian nuclear arsenal.


Inspired by the success of the Deputy Prime Minister could not resist the cry of the soul, writing in his microblog: “Tremble, bourgeois! Kirdyk you. Here, the head of the defense industry should have clarified who should be trembling. Maybe an aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, close to the Kremlin, or maybe another superburzhuyu and oligarch - Roman Abramovich, who, like the nasty Mr. Twister from the Soviet propaganda poem, owns "factories, newspapers and steamboats", and at the same time the London football club "Chels," and the same thing, and "Chillo", in the same piece, and "Chillo", in the same piece, and at the same time, and at the same time, and the London football club, "Chello", in the same piece, and in the same year.

However, over whose heads the military-space deputy prime minister is shocking with a mace, one can guess without explanation. He continues to wage the cold war that has ended, and dreams of detaining the "trains" of the enemy of the second half of the last century. Not only the war with the bourgeoisie, but also the Second World War is alive in his heart. As part of the patriotic advertising of products in his subordination industry, Rogozin moved several days ago from the traditional bureaucratic “Mercedes” to the domestic armored “Tiger” (in the police version). “From the trophy to ours!” Said the deputy prime minister (although the previous car was also bought with money).

The "trains" of the former opponent are symbolically derailed by young Russians. Every time 9 is approaching May, the anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany, a wave of patriotic enthusiasm rises in the country. St. George's black and orange ribbons are flying on the cars and the words "Thank you grandfather for the victory." And the young owners of very popular German cars here themselves imagine themselves to be the winners of the great Victoria and write in big letters on the rear windows of their Opel, Audi, BMW, Volkswagen and Mercedes cars: “a trophy from Berlin” , "Took from Hans." In the center of Moscow, I once saw a Porsche cayenne, the owner of which was not limited to a short inscription and declared: “It was conquered by fighter pilots. Glory to Stalin's falcons who defeated Hitler's vultures! ”

Through such rear glass “trophies” young Russians look at their army, with which they feel connected, but in which they don’t want to serve at all. For them, it is still great, red, invincible and marching under the red “serpasto-hammer” banner of victory.

It should be recognized that the myth of such an invincible, and at the same time aggressive and dangerous army, is also alive in the West, which perceives any teachings of the Russian armed forces practically as a precursor of invasion.

This myth tried to defeat the unfortunate Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov - the first real civilian in this post. Putin put him in a deliberately unfavorable position, giving the order to turn a smaller Soviet dinosaur (on the scale of 1: 4) into a much more modest modern army, corresponding to the country's capabilities and needs.

Following the order, Serdyukov raised his hand to the shrine, beginning to remake the “invincible” in the Western model, so that she was ready to go off the front tank attack across the European plains to the English Channel, and resolve local conflicts in Central Asia and the Caucasus. He wanted independent brigades to appear instead of divisions operating under the command of commanders of huge fronts. And to make it, as in NATO: modern technology and smartly dressed - comfortable and warm - the military.

Serdyukov dared to say that the products of the domestic defense industry are suitable for parades, but not for battle, and said that if the Russian industry cannot give the army what it needs, it will have to buy weapons abroad. He attempted to remove epaulettes from the officers beckoning enemy snipers, transferring stars from their shoulders to their chests. As in the West. He also forbade the “Suvorov students” (pupils of military schools) to participate in the 9 parades of May, believing that young people should learn, and not take a grand step for eight months a day.

“Funny green men,” as a civilian defense minister downhill called officers and generals who believed in the myth “invincible,” hated their boss. When he left 2012 in the fall from his post, in the Arbat Military District (the Ministry of Defense located not far from Moscow’s New Arbat), they drank and walked until morning.

According to the official version, Serdyukov was left out because of the machinations related to the sale of real estate by the Ministry of Defense, which cost the state billions of dollars. Many associates of the ex-minister were under investigation. However, he himself, although almost a year has passed from the worldwide resignation, no charges have yet been filed. After all, he suffered, rather, not for fraud during the privatization of military property, but became a ritual sacrifice to appease all those who still believe in perfection as "invincible."

Serdyukov’s successor, Sergei Shoigu, is acting rationally: he doesn’t scold aloud the defense system, he doesn’t say that he will buy everything abroad, but he doesn’t break contracts. It allows you to call the brigade divisions, but does not return the former organizational forms. Only symbols have returned: epaulets on a field uniform will again move from chest to shoulders, and Suvorov soldiers will march on May 9 in Red Square, as before.

Meanwhile, the Kremlin already understands that a country cannot contain multimillion-dollar armed forces not only from a financial, but primarily from a demographic point of view. They are not even necessary. In the Russian barracks, according to estimates of the influential expert Ruslan Pukhov, there is now not the mythical "million" about which propaganda blows, but about 800 thousands of people. And the country that is protected by a nuclear shield, this is quite enough where the army can really come in handy, that is, in the Caucasus and Central Asia.
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  1. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 25 September 2013 18: 07 New
    54
    Posted by Wacław Radziwinowicz

    As always for such Poles, black is white and white is black.
    Insanity in Polish.
    1. avt
      avt 25 September 2013 18: 18 New
      24
      Quote: Lech from ZATULINKI
      Posted by Wacław Radziwinowicz

      As always for such Poles, black is white and white is black.
      Insanity in Polish.

      No, pissing when scared. It seemed like there was a victory, but you’re a runway - West 2013 exercises. laughing
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 25 September 2013 18: 28 New
      34
      Quote: Lech from ZATULINKI
      As always for such Poles, black is white and white is black.
      Insanity in Polish.

      They are just stupidly jealous - we are celebrating Victory Day, and they have at that time a tolerant day of the end of the war - that’s the rage.
      1. smile
        smile 25 September 2013 19: 00 New
        38
        lelikas
        They are really envious. It is enviable that their dreams of the revival of the power of the 16th century (in which they were stuck in thinking :) never came true. They are jealous that they have no army and Polish ambitions about a worthy place in world politics and economics ended in a shameful zilch, no matter how hard they try to provide sexual services to the new owner. They are jealous that they see us getting out of the ditch and gaining weight in the world ... and they are scared that we are recovering pride in our country and patriotism ...
        And the author, in the words of Fedka Bricks, is an ordinary bastard, who saw the collapse of her hope for revenge and was poisoned by her own poison .... although it was unstoppable ... :)))
        1. rolik
          rolik 25 September 2013 22: 23 New
          +9
          Quote: smile
          ended in shameful zilch-

          a little fix ...ended in shameful pshek )))))))
        2. v.lyamkin
          v.lyamkin 26 September 2013 09: 30 New
          +2
          And the envy is BLACK
      2. Army1
        Army1 25 September 2013 21: 22 New
        0
        http://www.itar-tass.com/c16/891242.html Соединенные Штаты уже 17 октября достигнут потолка своего госдолга.
        Against the background of Syria.
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 25 September 2013 21: 26 New
          +1
          Yes, this will most likely end with the earlier than the next raising of the ceiling. But someday it will be impossible.
          1. alexng
            alexng 26 September 2013 02: 20 New
            0
            The number 17 is deadly for the United States. laughing
      3. vahatak
        vahatak 26 September 2013 22: 50 New
        +1
        You say that the Poles have reason to celebrate Victory Day. Whom did they defeat? The end day of the war is more correct.
    3. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 25 September 2013 19: 04 New
      12
      Interestingly, and who put the article pluses?
      Probably a stool in Tihari .......
      Judging by the number of pluses, someone has a lot of stools ......
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      2. smile
        smile 25 September 2013 20: 46 New
        10
        ziqzaq
        Sometimes the advantages are put not because they share the statements contained in it, but because the article is funny, although stupid, maybe someone neighing and put a plus ... in general, such articles are needed, the enemy needs to be known in person. :)))
        1. aleks77
          aleks77 25 September 2013 21: 34 New
          +6
          I also do not understand those who together put such articles as a minus, because these articles show the worldview of such individuals in relation to us and help to correct their position in relation to them, as well as reduce the fashion for pink glasses looking to the west.
          1. ziqzaq
            ziqzaq 25 September 2013 22: 21 New
            0
            Quote: aleks77
            I also do not understand those who together put such articles as a minus, because these articles show the worldview of such individuals in relation to us and help to correct their position in relation to them, as well as reduce the fashion for pink glasses looking to the west.

            Maybe I'm exaggerating, but Hitler also reduced fashion to the "pink glasses" ...
            That's just it in FIG such help .....
        2. ziqzaq
          ziqzaq 25 September 2013 22: 19 New
          +4
          Quote: smile
          Sometimes the advantages are put not because they share the statements contained in it, but because the article is funny, although stupid, maybe someone neighing and put a plus ... in general, such articles are needed, the enemy needs to be known in person. :)))

          In general, I agree with you, for an intelligent person, any information is good ....
          Only here after such articles, after that part of it where about Serdyukov, I have a slight decline in mood ...
          There is nothing funny in the fact that next to my homeland there is a country where Russophobic trends are flourishing I do not see ...
          1. smile
            smile 25 September 2013 22: 29 New
            +2
            ziqzaq
            Well, here you are, of course, right ... but for me, such articles are an additional argument to poke at some Polish Russophobes with whom you sometimes have to communicate ... as well as an argument against some of ours, which suggest that our path is integration with Europe ... and my mood doesn’t deteriorate, there’s nothing new here, it rises, enemies grind their teeth in impotent anger ... :)))
      3. Quiet
        Quiet 26 September 2013 01: 18 New
        +2
        Judging by the number of pluses, someone has a lot of stools ......

        He connected his entire “harem 'to this promotion !!!! Exactly 24 grandmothers !!! laughing
    4. Alez
      Alez 25 September 2013 20: 29 New
      26
      Envy gnaws at the Poles, we have VICTORY DAYS and St. George ribbons, they have gay pride parades and men in feathers.
      1. kelevra
        kelevra 18 December 2013 19: 09 New
        0
        Well done, to the very point good
    5. rolik
      rolik 25 September 2013 22: 22 New
      +5
      Quote: Lech from ZATULINKI
      Insanity in Polish.

      Yes, there is no ordinary Polish clumsy. Because apart from that, our address, they no longer know how. They didn’t learn to behave like men, that’s how they shit like petty dirty tricks. As one movie said:
      - In a word .... Pole))))
    6. Realist58
      Realist58 26 September 2013 00: 26 New
      +2
      The whores METEORISM and religion and life credo. If you don’t ... towards Russia, then the day will be spent in vain.
      And about this voice of flatulence, the newspaper is raked and can not speak laughing
  2. Arabist
    Arabist 25 September 2013 18: 15 New
    +4
    Already at someone, and at the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth precisely "From the Amazonian jungle to the northern seas, the Polish army is all the stronger." Where are Russia and America.
    1. Anper
      Anper 25 September 2013 23: 25 New
      +1
      The army is Polish motor, completely on the rovers; pan gizel. Pan Gouvnezh, Three Curves and Me.
      1. Orel
        Orel 26 September 2013 06: 24 New
        +1
        Through such rear windows of the “trophies” young Russians look at their army, with which they feel a connection, but in which they do not want to serve at all.


        Do not flatter yourself, if all of a sudden, everyone will serve and will serve so that they get to Portugal ... Don’t be dashing while it is quiet ...
  3. zevs379
    zevs379 25 September 2013 18: 16 New
    +7
    The Psheks have begun to croak - that means our army is developing correctly. Who cares, go - http://ursa-tm.ru/forum/index.php?/forum/88-
    there are translations of Pshek diarrhea about us - I cried crying
  4. IRBIS
    IRBIS 25 September 2013 18: 20 New
    12
    Urgently send this article to the TFR of the Russian Federation! They, poor fellow, are already tired of finding a way to "smear" Serdyukov and K from the accusations, and here the finished otmaz, and what what!
    Interestingly, maybe Serdyukov himself wrote it? Or paid?
  5. Imperial
    Imperial 25 September 2013 18: 22 New
    +6
    Did you order this article for an hour?
    1. tomas.09
      tomas.09 25 September 2013 18: 27 New
      +6
      Snack scrap z.opoy ordered this article !!!
  6. Avenger711
    Avenger711 25 September 2013 18: 23 New
    13
    Psheks sleep and see in Russia a tiny army for local conflicts.
    1. knn54
      knn54 25 September 2013 21: 03 New
      +7
      -Avenger711: Psheks sleep and see Russia as a tiny army for local conflicts.
      "Vyborcha newspaper":
      1) why the United States has almost 1,5 million army? Especially when you consider the length of the land borders of the United States and the Russian Federation ...
      2) constantly trumpet about the Russian threat, and immediately assert that the Russian army is unhealthy and rotten through and through. Decide.
      3) where would you be if it weren’t for the Smolensk regiments of the ON and the Tatar cavalry at the Battle of Grunwald, and they quickly forgot about the 200000 dead soldiers of the Red Army who died for the liberation of Poland.
      PS American missile defense can strike at ground targets: http://vpk.name/news/91853_pro_s_funkciei_preventivnogo_udara_pochemu_ssha_otkaz
      alis_ot_sozdaniya_novoi_raketyi_lasm.html
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 25 September 2013 21: 18 New
        +4
        Quote: knn54
        . And they quickly forgot about the 200000 only dead soldiers of the Red Army who died for the liberation of Poland.

        They did not forget, to begin with, they transferred it to May 8, and now for them it is not liberation, but the beginning of a new occupation, that’s such a memory.
        1. tomas.09
          tomas.09 28 September 2013 00: 23 New
          0
          The thing is that, they all remember, only pride does not allow them to realize that they are always exchanged in the game of big powers, they are only allowed to yap, no more !!!
  7. 222222
    222222 25 September 2013 18: 26 New
    14
    Like all “Warsaw friends” love to delve into the Russian army .. Look at your armies - all Soviet armaments are 25-30 years old, with conscripted conscripts called for the army of “Amazons” .. Instead of real combat training, the Yankees teach them police functions .. and so on and so forth ..
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  9. anfreezer
    anfreezer 25 September 2013 18: 28 New
    19
    This myth tried to defeat unhappy Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov - the first real civilian in this postOh god i'm crying now ... crying
    1. Metlik
      Metlik 25 September 2013 19: 00 New
      +9
      I almost cried. crying The poor man was emaciated thinking about Russia.
    2. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 26 September 2013 09: 32 New
      +1
      I fully agree: “Unlucky Serdyukov” - he was going to steal to the Ministry of Defense, and the real work is just a screen.
    3. knn54
      knn54 26 September 2013 12: 19 New
      0
      - The first real civilian in this post.
      The first pancake, but what a KOM ... And since the Poles praise - it means NECESSARY to plant!
      PS It did not work to build "capitalism with a human face" in one single army.
      PPS The feat of Ivan Susanin FOREVER deprived the Poles of feelings of reality and adequacy.
  10. Altona
    Altona 25 September 2013 18: 29 New
    29
    Shanovna pan Wenceslas, we also know how incompetently the Polish army fought in the 1939 campaign, even its own government and Western allies surrendered it ... Moreover, the Soviet Union armed and equipped the Anders army, which the Allies took away through Iran and threw into the narrow mountain passage of Montecassino, where a small German garrison shot it like a dash ... Moreover, pan Wenceslas, Stalin entrusted the liberation of the USSR to the Polish marshal, the most talented military leader of all time, Rokossovsky ... But of course, Wenceslas didn’t talk about this knows, he is hiding in the shadow of the American Patriot air defense system, re-reading the theses of Goebbels and probably writing another thriller about the "horrors of the Katyn forest" ...
    1. smile
      smile 25 September 2013 19: 10 New
      11
      Altona
      Motzny and Zatsny pan Wenceslas is not a reader, he is a writer :))) And he also probably learned that jokes are very popular among Americans, in which the Poles play the same role that we have in the Chukchi ... :))) the pan expires tears of evil, realizing that no one will defend him, but just that - they will throw, as always, the Western allies who never laid Polish litter ... Pan, it seems that it was just scary, he understands what kind of Polish Russophobic politics may have to pay ... expensive ... so we sympathize with the pan-after all, he happened to be present at the collapse of his hopes ... :)))
    2. Proud.
      Proud. 25 September 2013 20: 00 New
      +4
      Quote: Altona
      to the 1939 campaign

      The origin of the surname Radzivinovich. I quote: "... The surname is formed from the toponym Radzivinovich Radzivin. This is the name of a small town located near Warsaw in Poland. It is likely that the ancestor was born or Radzivinovich lived for a long time in this village. The name of this city dates back to after the first Raja’s settler. This name is derived from versions of the name Radziwill (!) ... "So this is where the dog" rummaged "! I quote further:" ... These days 74 years ago, Soviet troops occupied the territory of Western Ukraine. Then these lands, I repeat, they belonged to the Polish state (!). I'll explain it later. "... In the family castle of the Princes Radzivilov, where members of the fugitive Polish government were staying a few days ago, panic reigned now. The soldiers were already very close .... "." ... The Polish prince Janusz Radzivil refused to leave the estate, and already on September 19 the NKVD was arrested. The Ukrainian population met the Red Army as liberators - with bread and salt ... "A failed possible heir laughing , and almost a descendant wassat , stupidly avenges. As a version.
      1. smile
        smile 25 September 2013 20: 38 New
        +4
        Gordey
        Cool version. but I think it’s simpler- Burn the Commonwealth was a really strong power ... while it included the resources of the captured Russian land and Russian slaves ... when the captured were taken away, Polska perished ... to hell ... and they want the former greatness . but without Russian resources and slaves, it doesn’t work ...
        and as for the Radziwills, so they have every first nobleman — there are more princes there than in Georgia of the 19th century ... the real numbers are that — at the beginning of the 19th century every tenth Pole was in the Kingdom of Poland (in Russia for every nobleman over hundreds of commoners), all the property — zupan and saber and company arrogance — all Jagiellons, Leshchinsky, yes Ponyatovsky ... descendants of kings ... Now, my grandmother is also a representative of the gentry, and her family received land in Vilna only after it was captured by Zheligovsky in quality of payment their legionnaire. So that they themselves went for their cows ... aristocrats .... :)))
        1. Proud.
          Proud. 25 September 2013 22: 04 New
          +2
          Quote: smile
          but I think it's easier

          I just imagined how Pan Radzivinovich, exacerbating the liter of “Starki” in one person, wanders about his dwelling, and cries bitterly about the lost (mythical) castle laughing . Cursing the evil Bolsheviks.
          Quote: smile
          so they have every first nobleman, there are more of them there than in Georgia of the 19th century princes

          Ha ... "Poor" panov, and no one to send, you immediately run into the loud: "Dog Krev!"
          1. smile
            smile 25 September 2013 22: 42 New
            +3
            Proud.
            Right! :))) And they have nothing very old ... and a bimber-like Belarusian moonshine is quite up to the mark ... I once said a joke to a policeman-a bimber was invented in honor of Grunwald (the battle of Zalgiris in Lithuanian) -1410 year - one part of something, into 4 parts of something, into 10 parts of water (I don’t understand moonshining, excuse me) ... the Poles, by the way, also laugh about themselves and it’s full of normal men ... and non-men too ... :))) Although I’m angry at them here, but half of them, if you say, why are you mad, we hit you in the face, you, in due time, forget about what to share about our songs and they begin to bawl our songs ... in my case- "Oh, yes not evening" and "With inaudible birch, weightless" - I just do not remember anything other than combatant .... and they have beautiful songs ... sorry that there is another half ...
            1. abdrah
              abdrah 25 September 2013 23: 51 New
              +4
              By the way, you're right, who doesn’t know, they are unlikely to believe that our V.S. Vysotsky is considered to be an original Pole in Poland, every year festivals of his songs are held and, in general, Poles adore his work.
              1. smile
                smile 26 September 2013 02: 53 New
                +2
                abdrah
                Well, primordial-not primordial-but yours-for sure! I confirm. And they really love his work.
        2. abdrah
          abdrah 25 September 2013 23: 45 New
          +3
          There is no other country on the continent that has disappeared from the political map with such enviable constancy. The Poles sleep and dream in reality when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was in union with the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, only in those ancient times there was a "great Polish from Mozha to Mozha", but this is a long-standing history, which the Psceks themselves have been asking for.
          All Polish troubles are due to arrogance of arrogance and scribbling consciousness.
          1. smile
            smile 26 September 2013 02: 59 New
            +2
            abdrah
            That's right. They perceive the small addition-alliance with the ON as the last union-conditions-practically the absorption of the ON .... by the way, since the absolute polonization of the nobility of the ON happened already in the 16th-early 17th centuries ... their point of view is not without logic ... that's just Ordinary Russians and Lithuanians from ON turned out to have poor prospects ...
    3. zennon
      zennon 25 September 2013 21: 09 New
      +4
      The Soviet Union armed and equipped Anders army

      Do not forget to mention that after the war, the Soviet Union in the person of Joseph Vissarionovich gave the psheks a huge chunk of German soil, comparable in size to the GDR.
      1. abdrah
        abdrah 26 September 2013 00: 20 New
        +3
        Until 1945, the Poles had no outlet to the Baltic, not counting the 10 km mouth at the confluence of the Vistula, which the Poles bought from the Germans in 1924.
        in 1945, Psheks at the division of land by the Father of the Nations, prayed, yak Polish without Pushcha? and Stalin cut off the Białystok glades and part of Belovezhskaya Pushcha to the glades, he could not even see in a nightmare what they had done under the curtain of the 20th century .. And now they don’t remember much about German affairs, yet if the German feeds them but is silent it’s nothing- after all, 1/4 of Poland at the present moment must be Germany. Szczecin-Stettin, Gdansk-Danzig, Wroclaw-Breslau, etc. )
        Although for the Kuril Islands, in the above privacy for Iponians, I would advise you to learn and sing our song in the morning:
        The dew lay dense on the grass,
        Fogs fell in the taiga.
        That night, the samurai decided
        cross the border by the river.

        But intelligence reported for sure -
        And went, commanded by the commander,
        By native land of the Far East
        Armored percussion battalion.

        Tanks rushed, raising the wind,
        Terrible armor arrived
        And the samurai flew to the ground
        Under the pressure of steel and fire.

        And finished off - the song in that bail -
        All enemies in fire attack
        Three tankmen, three merry friends -
        The crew of the car combat.
    4. Quiet
      Quiet 26 September 2013 01: 24 New
      +3
      and probably writes another thriller about the "horrors of the Katyn forest" ....... which he personally observed while being there (lying so completely) !!! hi
  11. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 25 September 2013 18: 34 New
    21
    If the Poles hate Shoigu and praise Serdyuk, then everything is done correctly. And Rogozin got his NATO back in Brussels, especially in August 2008. His psheki also scolds - that means he is doing everything right.
  12. a52333
    a52333 25 September 2013 18: 38 New
    +5
    So I'm not a Pole, in my opinion. Rogozin is extremely attractive to me.
  13. vadimN
    vadimN 25 September 2013 18: 42 New
    +8
    Trending - not tossing bags ... Eh, Mr. Vaclav Radzivinovich, God forbid you to try in practice how invincible the Red Army is still invincible. Even if only with a sapper blade and some kind of mother, but it’s better not to tease ...
  14. Zhenya
    Zhenya 25 September 2013 18: 46 New
    +6
    In vain YOU are, in my opinion, an amusing article.
    1. starhina01
      starhina01 26 September 2013 00: 04 New
      +1
      have something to laugh at laughing
  15. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 25 September 2013 18: 49 New
    +5
    As the saying goes - if the enemy praises you, go and shoot yourself. This we have not seen the Baltic newspapers, that's where hell I suspect.
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 25 September 2013 18: 52 New
      +2
      Maybe so, I think the press of the possessed Michael not far from them is gone.
    2. smile
      smile 25 September 2013 20: 43 New
      +1
      chunga-changa
      Not peasants, I must admit that now there is much less Russophobia in the Baltic media than in Poland .... for about fifteen to ten years ago, there were as many now-less ... they live too shitty, not before ... but the Poles have always been like that, these are genes ... :))) the Poles still have a big tooth on Lithuanians, not only that the runaway slaves, they also chopped off Vilnius (well, the evil Russians gave the Lithuanians) and the Lithuanians crush the independent moods of two hundred thousand the Poles remaining in the Vilensky region ... such is their friendship :)))
  16. andrei332809
    andrei332809 25 September 2013 18: 55 New
    +4
    how to live further? Apparently, as the Baltic states, we’ll have to rely on the protection of the invincible Polish army
    1. vahatak
      vahatak 26 September 2013 22: 59 New
      +1
      It was necessary to turn to the Poles for advice, otherwise, in their opinion, the Russians did not know how to reform the army.
      PS I’ve joked if someone didn’t understand. Do not ask them for anything, especially advice.
  17. Net
    Net 25 September 2013 18: 56 New
    +5
    Damn Poles, in a nightmare they see tank divisions under red flags rolling through their Poland to the English Channel. However, with their plans to deploy American military bases, missile defense, it is more likely for them to see not our tanks, but Iskander missiles with special ammunition.
    1. vahatak
      vahatak 26 September 2013 23: 00 New
      +1
      I never understood: why exactly to the English Channel? Why not Gibraltar, for example?
  18. sergey72
    sergey72 25 September 2013 19: 09 New
    +4
    By the way, the epidemic of "sturgeon cutback" on defense has reached Poland, where it was decided to suspend the purchase of the next batch of Leopards-2 (128 units) ...
  19. I'm Russian
    I'm Russian 25 September 2013 19: 19 New
    12
    What are you talking about, folk orbits?
    Why anathema threaten you Russia?
    What angered you? Excitement of Lithuania?
    Leave: this is a dispute between the Slavs,
    Home, old dispute, weighted by fate,
    A question that you will not solve.

    For a long time among themselves
    These tribes are at war;
    More than once bowed over a thunderstorm
    That them, then our country.
    Who will stand in an unequal dispute:
    Puffy Lyakh il faithful Ross?
    Will Slavic streams merge in the Russian sea?
    Will it run dry? here is the question.

    A.S. Pushkin. Slanderers of Russia.
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 25 September 2013 22: 01 New
      0
      In truth, immortal poetry! Bravo, Pushkin! A folk path will not overgrow you!
  20. Troy
    Troy 25 September 2013 19: 35 New
    +3
    In my opinion, Lyakhov has a fear of Russians at the genetic level laughing
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 25 September 2013 20: 54 New
      +2
      Fear and thirst for revenge. Although I do not understand why. In WWII, they would have left only smoke from the crematorium, if not for Stalin.
      1. smile
        smile 25 September 2013 22: 45 New
        +2
        Patriot.ru
        And two-thirds of Prussia, Stalin gave them Silesia and ... everything. damn, forgot ... but, fortunately, not all.
  21. Gur
    Gur 25 September 2013 19: 40 New
    +1
    I didn’t understand what he wanted specifically
    1. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 25 September 2013 20: 02 New
      +2
      It's simple - subhumans in the east do not let the great Poland breathe deeply, but the hour of reckoning is getting closer, Russia is an enemy.
  22. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 25 September 2013 19: 41 New
    +3
    from the Don.
    Anyone like it, but I liked the title of the article! But the contents ... Well, in life they are so miserable!
  23. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 25 September 2013 19: 48 New
    +3
    In the Poles, I used to think that the United States is the largest Russophobian country. Nooo. This turns out to be Poland. Wacky people. Poland will always be fine dirt under the nails of such a country as RUSSIA.
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 25 September 2013 19: 54 New
      +3
      Ibrahim, well, think for yourself, Poland is more than years old than the United States, and Russophobia is greater. Moreover, with the help of the Westerners, he is always trying to spoof. Sincerely.
    2. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 25 September 2013 21: 15 New
      +2
      The biggest Russophobes. These are our brothers. Which we freed, defended, helped. It’s like with your closest friend you don’t want to lose him, don’t give him money to borrow.
      1. smile
        smile 25 September 2013 22: 52 New
        +1
        Patriot.ru
        A friend must be forgiven a debt ... especially if it’s hard to give it back ... but when he DEMANDS it is also not a loan, but because he called you a friend before, and you didn’t help him when you were not friends. ... then he will turn from a friend into POLAND (not as a nation, but as a national Polish idea) ... :))) and the analogy is true + :)))
  24. Theophanes
    Theophanes 25 September 2013 19: 48 New
    +3
    The author - or pretends to be such. He understands any traitor Serdyuk! But in one thing he is right - Serdyuk does not seem to sit down, despite the collapse of the army and mob. reserves, mob. work!
  25. nikcris
    nikcris 25 September 2013 19: 55 New
    10
    "He tried to remove from the officers alluring enemy snipers epaulets, moving the stars from his shoulders to his chest. As in the West" fellow

    Pshek KNOWS what he writes about - a Pshek I SAW on a box the gold-chasing RPK in shakoes, with accelerants and riding at the same time, and made thoughtful conclusions about the RF Armed Forces.

    I propose to feel sorry for the wretched - we can, he dashed it not from evil, but out of meagerness. Or I really wanted to eat, and then the writing shabbok turned up for three packets of popcorn and half a liter of coca without sugar request
    1. Heccrbq .2
      Heccrbq .2 25 September 2013 22: 11 New
      0
      laughing laughing you)))))))
  26. WIN969
    WIN969 25 September 2013 20: 06 New
    +2
    It is strange that on this site they spread such dregs. negative
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 25 September 2013 21: 30 New
      0
      Why is such a dullness laid out on this site. For tolerance?
      1. Quiet
        Quiet 26 September 2013 01: 30 New
        +2
        Why is such a dullness laid out on this site. For tolerance?

        Just fuck, let off steam .... laughing
  27. KOH
    KOH 25 September 2013 20: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: IRBIS
    Urgently send this article to the TFR of the Russian Federation! They, poor fellow, are already tired of finding a way to "smear" Serdyukov and K from the accusations, and here the finished otmaz, and what what!
    Interestingly, maybe Serdyukov himself wrote it? Or paid?


    Serdyukov accidentally will not be one of them ...
  28. andruha70
    andruha70 25 September 2013 20: 14 New
    +2
    Psheks want again, that in Russia everyone would die of laughter? hey, psheki ... enlighten ... from laughter, you can describe ... laughing but not die ... tongue
  29. datur
    datur 25 September 2013 20: 15 New
    +2
    truncated drinks Russians were scared !! repeat request thought -Baltic supermen! drinks
  30. Chever
    Chever 25 September 2013 20: 16 New
    +4
    Our Polish friends again try to convince themselves that the Russian Federation is an enemy for them laughing fool
  31. Vlaleks48
    Vlaleks48 25 September 2013 20: 17 New
    +2
    It’s very good that such “critical” articles of our “friends” and neighbors are published! Today, this allows some “dark” but faithful traditions to “dolbyotylaty” to understand that the praise of the enemy is worse than abuse!
  32. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 25 September 2013 20: 20 New
    +1
    Funny article))) Angry means we are going the right way ..!
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 25 September 2013 21: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Funny article))) Angry means we are going the right way ..!

      Haha Angry! Yes, they are constantly shaking from fear, a little shouting loudly in the Kremlin, they are written and even pooped. They don’t even hope for NATU. Not a country, but some kind of Jumble.
  33. Konstantm
    Konstantm 25 September 2013 20: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: FC Skiff
    If the Poles hate Shoigu and praise Serdyuk, then everything is done correctly

    Something I did not notice the groaning of Mr. Minister of Defense, on the contrary:
    “Serdyukov’s successor Sergei Shoigu acts reasonably: he does not scold the defense industry aloud, does not declare that he will buy everything abroad, but does not break contracts. He allows us to call brigades divisions, but does not return to the previous organizational forms. Only symbols returned: shoulder straps on the field uniform will again move from chest to shoulders, and the Suvorov troops will, as before, march on May 9 on Red Square. "
  34. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 25 September 2013 20: 26 New
    +1
    Once again the next (before him was Senator McCain) appeared "benefactor" of Russia and its army. "Benefactor" of the centuries-old "friends" of Russia - Lyakhov. And all that he sees and all that he knows. In his opinion, we are not doing exactly that in matters of defense, and Serdyukov is good. And after all, the unremarkable Lyakh knows that his article will be despised by normal Russian people. But still spoils the paper ...
  35. Moore
    Moore 25 September 2013 20: 32 New
    0
    If the enemy praises, then something is being done wrong. Praise Serdyukov it once again locks
  36. I'm Russian
    I'm Russian 25 September 2013 20: 37 New
    +1
    Poles live memories of the Commonwealth and dream of an empire "from mozh to mozh." And they do not want to admit that if it weren’t for Comrade Stalin, there would have been no access to the Baltic Sea, nor to the lands of eastern Prussia, nor to a part Western (native German) lands. and they really want to return to the borders of 1939, but I think they will not want to give back the acquisitions of 1945.
    1. smile
      smile 25 September 2013 23: 00 New
      0
      I'm Russian
      Eh, it's time to give up a cry, come on. comrades neighbors. we give up the legacy of the bad Stalin and return to the borders of 39 years .. everything! :))) Well, the Germans will definitely not come to us anymore, in my opinion, they climbed five hundred years ahead (we have general frost and evil commissars), but castrated Poland and some Baltic states would look very pale ... :) )))
  37. ran nearby
    ran nearby 25 September 2013 20: 38 New
    +2
    Mina personally liked it very much :) I even set it up.
    Not because I share the point of view of "author". Quite the contrary, I disagree with him. But still rzhachno :)
  38. Des10
    Des10 25 September 2013 20: 40 New
    -5
    Again, the Poles did not please Great Russia and the local Sites here --- funny.
    Reading the comments, I am convinced that many have the same complexes that are attributed to the Poles, but at least they are a small power :), and here are ours ... with the same problems.
    Normal journalism, article +.
    1. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 4 October 2013 23: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Des10
      Normal journalism, article +


      Especially about Serdyukov touches. They have already found a guardian for the interests of Russia. According to this "normal journalism", the author can be diagnosed with fool
  39. Seaman
    Seaman 25 September 2013 20: 45 New
    +2
    Again, Poland seems to have flown from "mozh to mozh", so "pshek" is nervous
  40. Starina_hank
    Starina_hank 25 September 2013 20: 48 New
    -4
    Say a word about the "poor" Pole ...... Well, a man wrote an article, well, expressed his opinion! And in response to what? Solid emotions and a screen splattered with saliva, it is not particularly pleasant to read such comments. It can be assumed that some Russians do not quite adequately respond to people who have a different understanding of what is happening from their own! About the same way we behave on the street, road, work!
    1. smile
      smile 25 September 2013 23: 22 New
      +4
      Starina_hank
      I don’t know how you behave on the street and at work, maybe just the way you write to us all ... but the article is most relevant for people like you ... you obviously can’t imagine that this is not a separate article, it’s an article in the spirit of Poland’s state-supported policy, a coherent policy that has not changed for the past five hundred years (moreover, it’s still very correct, written by a talented person who knows our realities). If we read here what comes from the bowels of the Institute of National Remembrance, you would have reduced skepticism .. take an interest :))) and the propaganda journal New Poland, free in the Kaliningrad Region, would lead you to the conclusion that we are bloody maniacs, and it would be fair to dismember us and reduce us numerically ... of course. pre-robbing ... oh. Sorry-claiming compensation for our centuries-old crimes against humanity ...
      This is not a different opinion, it is a consistent state Russophobic policy ... at least that's for you, I hope. understandably?... :)))
  41. wulf66
    wulf66 25 September 2013 21: 05 New
    0
    Psheks calm themselves with fairy tales or what? Before World War II, they acted like hyenas, trying to chop off a piece of Czechoslovakia to themselves. And now, not even hyenas ... Jackal from Mowgli Tabaki, this is the current brand and the face of Pshek statehood. Only in the north they definitely have nothing to do, they will not be happy to say the least.
  42. does it
    does it 25 September 2013 21: 08 New
    -1
    Serdyukov’s successor Sergei Shoigu acts reasonably: he does not scold the defense industry aloud, does not declare that he will buy everything abroad,

    watch to the end!
  43. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 25 September 2013 21: 09 New
    +1
    Through such rear glass “trophies” young Russians look at their army, with which they feel connected, but in which they don’t want to serve at all. For them, it is still great, red, invincible and marching under the red “serpasto-hammer” banner of victory.
    It should be recognized that the myth of such an invincible, and at the same time aggressive and dangerous army, is also alive in the West, which perceives any teachings of the Russian armed forces practically as a precursor of invasion.


    Euros, especially Poles, love to brag about how well they live in their Europe.
    Only one thing is not clear which shaggy angel they constantly look east and laugh, as if from good Europe and good Poland, with good, strong and good NATO armies, to invade bad Russia with a bad army in which no one wants to serve.
  44. Mark III
    Mark III 25 September 2013 21: 18 New
    +3
    `owners of German cars that are very popular here imagine themselves winners`
    So you know who defeated the Nazis, four tankmen (Poles) and a dog!
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 25 September 2013 23: 34 New
      +3
      Three Poles, Georgians and a dog ... - it will be more accurate.
  45. Alex 241
    Alex 241 25 September 2013 21: 21 New
    +3
    Quote: Mark III
    German cars
    Yes, we still defeat the Germans, Russian roads kill German cars laughing
  46. holding
    holding 25 September 2013 21: 24 New
    +3
    No emotion, listen Vaclav Radzivinovich if necessary, we’ll come and expel.
  47. Sergey47
    Sergey47 25 September 2013 21: 39 New
    +3
    This Bzdyshek Perdyshevsky himself probably did not understand WHAT country and WHAT army he was assigned to junk.
  48. bagpipe
    bagpipe 25 September 2013 21: 43 New
    +1
    sometimes such materials appear in such a swamp - for sobering up and adequate assessment of what is happening by those discussing and commenting.
  49. ё.ё.ё.rus
    ё.ё.ё.rus 25 September 2013 22: 05 New
    +5
    she served invincible, fought, I know.
  50. voliador
    voliador 25 September 2013 22: 27 New
    0
    Psheki are still spraying saliva on us.