The still invincible Red Army ("Gazeta Wyborcza", Poland)

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The still invincible Red Army ("Gazeta Wyborcza", Poland)

Our neighbors have Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, a journalist by training, and an official responsible for the military-industrial complex and the space industry by occupation. He is an experienced, albeit often overly emotional, diplomat. In January, he, as a child, rejoiced in successful trials of the new nuclear submarine Yuri Dolgoruky. Flotilla Such Borey-class ships equipped with Bulava ballistic missiles should become the main and most formidable element of the Russian nuclear arsenal.

Inspired by the success of the Deputy Prime Minister could not resist the cry of the soul, writing in his microblog: “Tremble, bourgeois! Kirdyk you. Here, the head of the defense industry should have clarified who should be trembling. Maybe an aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, close to the Kremlin, or maybe another superburzhuyu and oligarch - Roman Abramovich, who, like the nasty Mr. Twister from the Soviet propaganda poem, owns "factories, newspapers and steamboats", and at the same time the London football club "Chels," and the same thing, and "Chillo", in the same piece, and "Chillo", in the same piece, and at the same time, and at the same time, and the London football club, "Chello", in the same piece, and in the same year.

However, over whose heads the military-space deputy prime minister is shocking with a mace, one can guess without explanation. He continues to wage the cold war that has ended, and dreams of detaining the "trains" of the enemy of the second half of the last century. Not only the war with the bourgeoisie, but also the Second World War is alive in his heart. As part of the patriotic advertising of products in his subordination industry, Rogozin moved several days ago from the traditional bureaucratic “Mercedes” to the domestic armored “Tiger” (in the police version). “From the trophy to ours!” Said the deputy prime minister (although the previous car was also bought with money).

The "trains" of the former opponent are symbolically derailed by young Russians. Every time 9 is approaching May, the anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany, a wave of patriotic enthusiasm rises in the country. St. George's black and orange ribbons are flying on the cars and the words "Thank you grandfather for the victory." And the young owners of very popular German cars here themselves imagine themselves to be the winners of the great Victoria and write in big letters on the rear windows of their Opel, Audi, BMW, Volkswagen and Mercedes cars: “a trophy from Berlin” , "Took from Hans." In the center of Moscow, I once saw a Porsche cayenne, the owner of which was not limited to a short inscription and declared: “It was conquered by fighter pilots. Glory to Stalin's falcons who defeated Hitler's vultures! ”

Through such rear glass “trophies” young Russians look at their army, with which they feel connected, but in which they don’t want to serve at all. For them, it is still great, red, invincible and marching under the red “serpasto-hammer” banner of victory.

It should be recognized that the myth of such an invincible, and at the same time aggressive and dangerous army, is also alive in the West, which perceives any teachings of the Russian armed forces practically as a precursor of invasion.

This myth tried to defeat the unfortunate Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov - the first real civilian in this post. Putin put him in a deliberately unfavorable position, giving the order to turn a smaller Soviet dinosaur (on the scale of 1: 4) into a much more modest modern army, corresponding to the country's capabilities and needs.

Following the order, Serdyukov raised his hand to the shrine, beginning to remake the “invincible” in the Western model, so that she was ready to go off the front tank attack across the European plains to the English Channel, and resolve local conflicts in Central Asia and the Caucasus. He wanted independent brigades to appear instead of divisions operating under the command of commanders of huge fronts. And to make it, as in NATO: modern technology and smartly dressed - comfortable and warm - the military.

Serdyukov dared to say that the products of the domestic defense industry are suitable for parades, but not for battle, and said that if the Russian industry cannot give the army what it needs, it will have to buy weapons abroad. He attempted to remove epaulettes from the officers beckoning enemy snipers, transferring stars from their shoulders to their chests. As in the West. He also forbade the “Suvorov students” (pupils of military schools) to participate in the 9 parades of May, believing that young people should learn, and not take a grand step for eight months a day.

“Funny green men,” as a civilian defense minister downhill called officers and generals who believed in the myth “invincible,” hated their boss. When he left 2012 in the fall from his post, in the Arbat Military District (the Ministry of Defense located not far from Moscow’s New Arbat), they drank and walked until morning.

According to the official version, Serdyukov was left out because of the machinations related to the sale of real estate by the Ministry of Defense, which cost the state billions of dollars. Many associates of the ex-minister were under investigation. However, he himself, although almost a year has passed from the worldwide resignation, no charges have yet been filed. After all, he suffered, rather, not for fraud during the privatization of military property, but became a ritual sacrifice to appease all those who still believe in perfection as "invincible."

Serdyukov’s successor, Sergei Shoigu, is acting rationally: he doesn’t scold aloud the defense system, he doesn’t say that he will buy everything abroad, but he doesn’t break contracts. It allows you to call the brigade divisions, but does not return the former organizational forms. Only symbols have returned: epaulets on a field uniform will again move from chest to shoulders, and Suvorov soldiers will march on May 9 in Red Square, as before.

Meanwhile, the Kremlin already understands that a country cannot contain multimillion-dollar armed forces not only from a financial, but primarily from a demographic point of view. They are not even necessary. In the Russian barracks, according to estimates of the influential expert Ruslan Pukhov, there is now not the mythical "million" about which propaganda blows, but about 800 thousands of people. And the country that is protected by a nuclear shield, this is quite enough where the army can really come in handy, that is, in the Caucasus and Central Asia.
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  1. Lech from ZATULINKI
    +54
    25 September 2013 18: 07
    Posted by Wacław Radziwinowicz

    As always for such Poles, black is white and white is black.
    Insanity in Polish.
    1. avt
      +24
      25 September 2013 18: 18
      Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
      Posted by Wacław Radziwinowicz

      As always for such Poles, black is white and white is black.
      Insanity in Polish.

      No, pissing when scared. It seemed like there was a victory, but you’re a runway - West 2013 exercises. laughing
    2. +34
      25 September 2013 18: 28
      Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
      As always for such Poles, black is white and white is black.
      Insanity in Polish.

      They are just stupidly jealous - we are celebrating Victory Day, and they have at that time a tolerant day of the end of the war - that’s the rage.
      1. +38
        25 September 2013 19: 00
        lelikas
        They are really envious. It is enviable that their dreams of the revival of the power of the 16th century (in which they were stuck in thinking :) never came true. They are jealous that they have no army and Polish ambitions about a worthy place in world politics and economics ended in a shameful zilch, no matter how hard they try to provide sexual services to the new owner. They are jealous that they see us getting out of the ditch and gaining weight in the world ... and they are scared that we are recovering pride in our country and patriotism ...
        And the author, in the words of Fedka Bricks, is an ordinary bastard, who saw the collapse of her hope for revenge and was poisoned by her own poison .... although it was unstoppable ... :)))
        1. rolik
          +9
          25 September 2013 22: 23
          Quote: smile
          ended in shameful zilch-

          a little fix ...ended in shameful pshek )))))))
        2. v.lyamkin
          +2
          26 September 2013 09: 30
          And the envy is BLACK
      2. 0
        25 September 2013 21: 22
        http://www.itar-tass.com/c16/891242.html Соединенные Штаты уже 17 октября достигнут потолка своего госдолга.
        Against the background of Syria.
        1. Arabist
          +1
          25 September 2013 21: 26
          Yes, this will most likely end with the earlier than the next raising of the ceiling. But someday it will be impossible.
          1. 0
            26 September 2013 02: 20
            The number 17 is deadly for the United States. laughing
      3. vahatak
        +1
        26 September 2013 22: 50
        You say that the Poles have reason to celebrate Victory Day. Whom did they defeat? The end day of the war is more correct.
    3. +12
      25 September 2013 19: 04
      Interestingly, and who put the article pluses?
      Probably a stool in Tihari .......
      Judging by the number of pluses, someone has a lot of stools ......
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      2. +10
        25 September 2013 20: 46
        ziqzaq
        Sometimes the advantages are put not because they share the statements contained in it, but because the article is funny, although stupid, maybe someone neighing and put a plus ... in general, such articles are needed, the enemy needs to be known in person. :)))
        1. +6
          25 September 2013 21: 34
          I also do not understand those who together put such articles as a minus, because these articles show the worldview of such individuals in relation to us and help to correct their position in relation to them, as well as reduce the fashion for pink glasses looking to the west.
          1. 0
            25 September 2013 22: 21
            Quote: aleks77
            I also do not understand those who together put such articles as a minus, because these articles show the worldview of such individuals in relation to us and help to correct their position in relation to them, as well as reduce the fashion for pink glasses looking to the west.

            Perhaps I'm exaggerating, but Hitler also lowered the fashion for "rose-colored glasses" ...
            That's just it in FIG such help .....
        2. +4
          25 September 2013 22: 19
          Quote: smile
          Sometimes the advantages are put not because they share the statements contained in it, but because the article is funny, although stupid, maybe someone neighing and put a plus ... in general, such articles are needed, the enemy needs to be known in person. :)))

          In general, I agree with you, for an intelligent person, any information is good ....
          Only here after such articles, after that part of it where about Serdyukov, I have a slight decline in mood ...
          There is nothing funny in the fact that next to my homeland there is a country where Russophobic trends are flourishing I do not see ...
          1. +2
            25 September 2013 22: 29
            ziqzaq
            Well, here you are, of course, right ... but for me, such articles are an additional argument to poke at some Polish Russophobes with whom you sometimes have to communicate ... as well as an argument against some of ours, which suggest that our path is integration with Europe ... and my mood doesn’t deteriorate, there’s nothing new here, it rises, enemies grind their teeth in impotent anger ... :)))
      3. Quiet
        +2
        26 September 2013 01: 18
        Judging by the number of pluses, someone has a lot of stools ......

        He connected his entire "harem" to this action !!!! laughing
    4. +26
      25 September 2013 20: 29
      Envy gnaws at the Poles, we have VICTORY DAYS and St. George ribbons, they have gay pride parades and men in feathers.
      1. kelevra
        0
        18 December 2013 19: 09
        Well done, to the very point good
    5. rolik
      +5
      25 September 2013 22: 22
      Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
      Insanity in Polish.

      Yes, there is no ordinary Polish clumsy. Because apart from that, our address, they no longer know how. They didn’t learn to behave like men, that’s how they shit like petty dirty tricks. As one movie said:
      - In a word .... Pole))))
    6. +2
      26 September 2013 00: 26
      The whores METEORISM and religion and life credo. If you don’t ... towards Russia, then the day will be spent in vain.
      And about this voice of flatulence, the newspaper is raked and can not speak laughing
  2. Arabist
    +4
    25 September 2013 18: 15
    Someone, but the Commonwealth, for sure, "From the Amazonian jungle to the northern seas, the Polish army is the strongest." Where is Russia and America.
    1. +1
      25 September 2013 23: 25
      The army is Polish motor, completely on the rovers; pan gizel. Pan Gouvnezh, Three Curves and Me.
      1. +1
        26 September 2013 06: 24
        Through such rear windows of the “trophies” young Russians look at their army, with which they feel a connection, but in which they do not want to serve at all.


        Do not flatter yourself, if all of a sudden, everyone will serve and will serve so that they get to Portugal ... Don’t be dashing while it is quiet ...
  3. zevs379
    +7
    25 September 2013 18: 16
    The Psheks have begun to croak - that means our army is developing correctly. Who cares, go - http://ursa-tm.ru/forum/index.php?/forum/88-
    there are translations of Pshek diarrhea about us - I cried crying
  4. +12
    25 September 2013 18: 20
    Send this article to the TFR RF urgently! They, poor fellows, are already tired of looking for a way to "smear" Serdyukov and Co. from accusations, and then there is a ready excuse, and what a great one!
    Interestingly, maybe Serdyukov himself wrote it? Or paid?
  5. +6
    25 September 2013 18: 22
    Did you order this article for an hour?
    1. +6
      25 September 2013 18: 27
      Snack scrap z.opoy ordered this article !!!
  6. Avenger711
    +13
    25 September 2013 18: 23
    Psheks sleep and see in Russia a tiny army for local conflicts.
    1. +7
      25 September 2013 21: 03
      -Avenger711: Psheks sleep and see Russia as a tiny army for local conflicts.
      "Gazeta Vyborcha":
      1) why the United States has almost 1,5 million army? Especially when you consider the length of the land borders of the United States and the Russian Federation ...
      2) constantly trumpet about the Russian threat, and immediately assert that the Russian army is unhealthy and rotten through and through. Decide.
      3) where would you be if it weren’t for the Smolensk regiments of the ON and the Tatar cavalry at the Battle of Grunwald, and they quickly forgot about the 200000 dead soldiers of the Red Army who died for the liberation of Poland.
      PS American missile defense can strike at ground targets: http://vpk.name/news/91853_pro_s_funkciei_preventivnogo_udara_pochemu_ssha_otkaz
      alis_ot_sozdaniya_novoi_raketyi_lasm.html
      1. +4
        25 September 2013 21: 18
        Quote: knn54
        . And they quickly forgot about the 200000 only dead soldiers of the Red Army who died for the liberation of Poland.

        They did not forget, to begin with, they transferred it to May 8, and now for them it is not liberation, but the beginning of a new occupation, that’s such a memory.
        1. 0
          28 September 2013 00: 23
          The thing is that, they all remember, only pride does not allow them to realize that they are always exchanged in the game of big powers, they are only allowed to yap, no more !!!
  7. +14
    25 September 2013 18: 26
    Like all "Warsaw friends" love to dig into the Russian army .. Look at their armies - all Soviet weapons 25-30 years ago, with a full contract conscription - armies of "Amazons" .. Instead of real combat training, women teach them police functions ... and so on, etc.
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  9. +19
    25 September 2013 18: 28
    This myth tried to defeat unhappy Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov - the first real civilian in this postOh god i'm crying now ... crying
    1. +9
      25 September 2013 19: 00
      I almost cried. crying The poor man was emaciated thinking about Russia.
    2. v.lyamkin
      +1
      26 September 2013 09: 32
      I fully agree: "Unhappy Serdyukov" - yes, he went to steal to the Ministry of Defense, but real work is just a screen.
    3. 0
      26 September 2013 12: 19
      - The first real civilian in this post.
      The first pancake, but what a KOM ... And since the Poles praise - it means NECESSARY to plant!
      PS It was not possible to build "capitalism with a human face" in one single army.
      PPS The feat of Ivan Susanin FOREVER deprived the Poles of feelings of reality and adequacy.
  10. +29
    25 September 2013 18: 29
    Shanovny pan Wenceslas, we also know how ineptly the Polish army fought in the 1939 campaign, its own government and Western allies surrendered it even more mediocre ... Moreover, the Soviet Union armed and equipped Anders' army, which the allies took through Iran and threw into the narrow mountain pass of Montecassino, where a small German garrison shot her as if in a shooting range ... Moreover, Pan Wenceslas, Stalin entrusted the liberation of the USSR to the Polish Marshal, the most talented military leader of all times and peoples, Rokossovsky ... But Pan Wenceslas, of course, is not about this knows, he is hiding in the shadow of the American Patriot air defense system, re-reading Goebbels's theses and probably writing another thriller about the "horrors of the Katyn forest" ...
    1. +11
      25 September 2013 19: 10
      Altona
      Motzny and Zatsny pan Wenceslas is not a reader, he is a writer :))) And he also probably learned that jokes are very popular among Americans, in which the Poles play the same role that we have in the Chukchi ... :))) the pan expires tears of evil, realizing that no one will defend him, but just that - they will throw, as always, the Western allies who never laid Polish litter ... Pan, it seems that it was just scary, he understands what kind of Polish Russophobic politics may have to pay ... expensive ... so we sympathize with the pan-after all, he happened to be present at the collapse of his hopes ... :)))
    2. +4
      25 September 2013 20: 00
      Quote: Altona
      to the 1939 campaign

      The origin of the surname Radzivinovich. I quote: "... The surname is derived from the toponym Radzivinovich Radzivin. This is the name of a small town located near Warsaw in Poland. It is likely that the ancestor was born or Radzivinovich lived for a long time in this village. The name of this city dates back to after the first This name is derived from versions of the name Radziwill (!) ... "So this is where the dog" rummaged "! I quote further:" ... These days 74 years ago, Soviet troops occupied the territory of Western Ukraine. Then these lands, I repeat, they belonged to the Polish state (!). I'll explain. "... In the ancestral castle of the Radziwills princes, where members of the fugitive Polish government stayed a few days ago, now panic reigned. The Red Army men were already very close .... "." ... The Polish prince Janusz Radziwil refused to leave the estate, and on September 19 the NKVD was arrested. The Ukrainian population greeted the Red Army men as liberators - with bread and salt ... "Failed possible heir laughing , and almost a descendant wassat , stupidly avenges. As a version.
      1. +4
        25 September 2013 20: 38
        Gordey
        Cool version. but I think it’s simpler- Burn the Commonwealth was a really strong power ... while it included the resources of the captured Russian land and Russian slaves ... when the captured were taken away, Polska perished ... to hell ... and they want the former greatness . but without Russian resources and slaves, it doesn’t work ...
        and as for the Radziwills, so they have every first nobleman — there are more princes there than in Georgia of the 19th century ... the real numbers are that — at the beginning of the 19th century every tenth Pole was in the Kingdom of Poland (in Russia for every nobleman over hundreds of commoners), all the property — zupan and saber and company arrogance — all Jagiellons, Leshchinsky, yes Ponyatovsky ... descendants of kings ... Now, my grandmother is also a representative of the gentry, and her family received land in Vilna only after it was captured by Zheligovsky in quality of payment their legionnaire. So that they themselves went for their cows ... aristocrats .... :)))
        1. +2
          25 September 2013 22: 04
          Quote: smile
          but I think it's easier

          I just imagined how Pan Radzivinovich, aggravating the liter of "Starkey" in one person, wanders around his home, and weeps bitterly about the lost (mythical) castle laughing . Cursing the evil Bolsheviks.
          Quote: smile
          so they have every first nobleman, there are more of them there than in Georgia of the 19th century princes

          Ha ... "Poor" gentlemen, and there is no one to send, you will immediately run into the loud: "Psya Krev!"
          1. +3
            25 September 2013 22: 42
            Proud.
            Exactly! :))) And the stark they have very much even nothing ... and the bimber-like Belarusian moonshine is quite at the height ... somehow one Pole jokingly said to me-the bimber was invented in honor of Grunwald (battle of Zalgiris in Lithuanian) -1410 - one part of something, 4 parts of something, 10 parts of water (I don’t understand moonshine brewing, sorry) ... Poles, by the way, also neigh a lot at themselves and there are a lot of normal men ... and non-men too ... :))) Although I am angry at them here, but half of them, if you say, what are you mad about, we slapped you in the muzzles, you, in due time, forget about their claims and our songs begin to bawl ... in my case - "Oh yes it is not evening" and "With birches, inaudible, weightless" - I just do not remember others, except for the combatants ... and they have beautiful songs ... pity there is another half ...
            1. +4
              25 September 2013 23: 51
              By the way, you're right, who doesn’t know, they are unlikely to believe that our V.S. Vysotsky is considered to be an original Pole in Poland, every year festivals of his songs are held and, in general, Poles adore his work.
              1. +2
                26 September 2013 02: 53
                abdrah
                Well, primordial-not primordial-but yours-for sure! I confirm. And they really love his work.
        2. +3
          25 September 2013 23: 45
          There is no other country on the continent that has disappeared from the political map with such enviable consistency. Poles sleep and have a dream in reality, when the speech was in alliance with the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, only in those ancient times there was "Ve вka polska from Mozha to Mozha", but this is a long story, which the psheki themselves asked for.
          All Polish troubles are due to arrogance of arrogance and scribbling consciousness.
          1. +2
            26 September 2013 02: 59
            abdrah
            That's right. They perceive the small addition-alliance with the ON as the last union-conditions-practically the absorption of the ON .... by the way, since the absolute polonization of the nobility of the ON happened already in the 16th-early 17th centuries ... their point of view is not without logic ... that's just Ordinary Russians and Lithuanians from ON turned out to have poor prospects ...
    3. +4
      25 September 2013 21: 09
      The Soviet Union armed and equipped Anders army

      Do not forget to mention that after the war, the Soviet Union in the person of Joseph Vissarionovich gave the psheks a huge chunk of German soil, comparable in size to the GDR.
      1. +3
        26 September 2013 00: 20
        Until 1945, the Poles had no outlet to the Baltic, not counting the 10 km mouth at the confluence of the Vistula, which the Poles bought from the Germans in 1924.
        in 1945, Psheks at the division of land by the Father of the Nations, prayed, yak Polish without Pushcha? and Stalin cut off the Białystok glades and part of Belovezhskaya Pushcha to the glades, he could not even see in a nightmare what they had done under the curtain of the 20th century .. And now they don’t remember much about German affairs, yet if the German feeds them but is silent it’s nothing- after all, 1/4 of Poland at the present moment must be Germany. Szczecin-Stettin, Gdansk-Danzig, Wroclaw-Breslau, etc. )
        Although for the Kuril Islands, in the above privacy for Iponians, I would advise you to learn and sing our song in the morning:
        The dew lay dense on the grass,
        Fogs fell in the taiga.
        That night, the samurai decided
        cross the border by the river.

        But intelligence reported for sure -
        And went, commanded by the commander,
        By native land of the Far East
        Armored percussion battalion.

        Tanks rushed, raising the wind,
        Terrible armor arrived
        And the samurai flew to the ground
        Under the pressure of steel and fire.

        And finished off - the song in that bail -
        All enemies in fire attack
        Three tankmen, three merry friends -
        The crew of the car combat.
    4. Quiet
      +3
      26 September 2013 01: 24
      and probably writes another thriller about "the horrors of the Katyn forest" ....... which he personally observed while being there (lying so completely) !!! hi
  11. +21
    25 September 2013 18: 34
    If the Poles hate Shoigu and praise Serdyuk, then everything is done correctly. And Rogozin got his NATO back in Brussels, especially in August 2008. His psheki also scolds - that means he is doing everything right.
  12. +5
    25 September 2013 18: 38
    So I'm not a Pole, in my opinion. Rogozin is extremely attractive to me.
  13. +8
    25 September 2013 18: 42
    Trending - not tossing bags ... Eh, Mr. Vaclav Radzivinovich, God forbid you to try in practice how invincible the Red Army is still invincible. Even if only with a sapper blade and some kind of mother, but it’s better not to tease ...
  14. +6
    25 September 2013 18: 46
    In vain YOU are, in my opinion, an amusing article.
    1. +1
      26 September 2013 00: 04
      have something to laugh at laughing
  15. +5
    25 September 2013 18: 49
    As the saying goes - if the enemy praises you, go and shoot yourself. This we have not seen the Baltic newspapers, that's where hell I suspect.
    1. Arabist
      +2
      25 September 2013 18: 52
      Maybe so, I think the press of the possessed Michael not far from them is gone.
    2. +1
      25 September 2013 20: 43
      chunga-changa
      Not peasants, I must admit that now there is much less Russophobia in the Baltic media than in Poland .... for about fifteen to ten years ago, there were as many now-less ... they live too shitty, not before ... but the Poles have always been like that, these are genes ... :))) the Poles still have a big tooth on Lithuanians, not only that the runaway slaves, they also chopped off Vilnius (well, the evil Russians gave the Lithuanians) and the Lithuanians crush the independent moods of two hundred thousand the Poles remaining in the Vilensky region ... such is their friendship :)))
  16. +4
    25 September 2013 18: 55
    how to live further? Apparently, as the Baltic states, we’ll have to rely on the protection of the invincible Polish army
    1. vahatak
      +1
      26 September 2013 22: 59
      It was necessary to turn to the Poles for advice, otherwise, in their opinion, the Russians did not know how to reform the army.
      PS I’ve joked if someone didn’t understand. Do not ask them for anything, especially advice.
  17. Net
    Net
    +5
    25 September 2013 18: 56
    Damn Poles, in a nightmare they see tank divisions under red flags rolling through their Poland to the English Channel. However, with their plans to deploy American military bases, missile defense, it is more likely for them to see not our tanks, but Iskander missiles with special ammunition.
    1. vahatak
      +1
      26 September 2013 23: 00
      I never understood: why exactly to the English Channel? Why not Gibraltar, for example?
  18. +4
    25 September 2013 19: 09
    By the way, the epidemic of "cutting sturgeon" for defense has reached Poland, where it was decided to suspend the purchase of the next batch of Leopard-2 (128 units) ...
  19. +12
    25 September 2013 19: 19
    What are you talking about, folk orbits?
    Why anathema threaten you Russia?
    What angered you? Excitement of Lithuania?
    Leave: this is a dispute between the Slavs,
    Home, old dispute, weighted by fate,
    A question that you will not solve.

    For a long time among themselves
    These tribes are at war;
    More than once bowed over a thunderstorm
    That them, then our country.
    Who will stand in an unequal dispute:
    Puffy Lyakh il faithful Ross?
    Will Slavic streams merge in the Russian sea?
    Will it run dry? here is the question.

    A.S. Pushkin. Slanderers of Russia.
    1. 0
      25 September 2013 22: 01
      In truth, immortal poetry! Bravo, Pushkin! A folk path will not overgrow you!
  20. Troy
    +3
    25 September 2013 19: 35
    In my opinion, Lyakhov has a fear of Russians at the genetic level laughing
    1. +2
      25 September 2013 20: 54
      Fear and thirst for revenge. Although I do not understand why. In WWII, they would have left only smoke from the crematorium, if not for Stalin.
      1. +2
        25 September 2013 22: 45
        Patriot.ru
        And two-thirds of Prussia, Stalin gave them Silesia and ... everything. damn, forgot ... but, fortunately, not all.
  21. Gur
    +1
    25 September 2013 19: 40
    I didn’t understand what he wanted specifically
    1. +2
      25 September 2013 20: 02
      It's simple - subhumans in the east do not let the great Poland breathe deeply, but the hour of reckoning is getting closer, Russia is an enemy.
  22. +3
    25 September 2013 19: 41
    from the Don.
    Anyone like it, but I liked the title of the article! But the contents ... Well, in life they are so miserable!
  23. GREAT RUSSIA
    +3
    25 September 2013 19: 48
    In the Poles, I used to think that the United States is the largest Russophobian country. Nooo. This turns out to be Poland. Wacky people. Poland will always be fine dirt under the nails of such a country as RUSSIA.
    1. Arabist
      +3
      25 September 2013 19: 54
      Ibrahim, well, think for yourself, Poland is more than years old than the United States, and Russophobia is greater. Moreover, with the help of the Westerners, he is always trying to spoof. Sincerely.
    2. +2
      25 September 2013 21: 15
      The biggest Russophobes. These are our brothers. Which we freed, defended, helped. It’s like with your closest friend you don’t want to lose him, don’t give him money to borrow.
      1. +1
        25 September 2013 22: 52
        Patriot.ru
        A friend must be forgiven a debt ... especially if it’s hard to give it back ... but when he DEMANDS it is also not a loan, but because he called you a friend before, and you didn’t help him when you were not friends. ... then he will turn from a friend into POLAND (not as a nation, but as a national Polish idea) ... :))) and the analogy is true + :)))
  24. +3
    25 September 2013 19: 48
    The author - or pretends to be such. He understands any traitor Serdyuk! But in one thing he is right - Serdyuk does not seem to sit down, despite the collapse of the army and mob. reserves, mob. work!
  25. +10
    25 September 2013 19: 55
    "He tried to remove the shoulder straps from the officers who were beckoning enemy snipers by transferring the stars from his shoulders to his chest. As in the West." fellow

    Pshek KNOWS what he writes about - a Pshek I SAW on a box the gold-chasing RPK in shakoes, with accelerants and riding at the same time, and made thoughtful conclusions about the RF Armed Forces.

    I propose to feel sorry for the wretched - we can, he dashed it not from evil, but out of meagerness. Or I really wanted to eat, and then the writing shabbok turned up for three packets of popcorn and half a liter of coca without sugar request
    1. Heccrbq.2
      0
      25 September 2013 22: 11
      laughing laughing you)))))))
  26. +2
    25 September 2013 20: 06
    It is strange that on this site they spread such dregs. negative
    1. 0
      25 September 2013 21: 30
      Why is such a dullness laid out on this site. For tolerance?
      1. Quiet
        +2
        26 September 2013 01: 30
        Why is such a dullness laid out on this site. For tolerance?

        Just fuck, let off steam .... laughing
  27. KOH
    +1
    25 September 2013 20: 08
    Quote: IRBIS
    Send this article to the TFR RF urgently! They, poor fellows, are already tired of looking for a way to "smear" Serdyukov and Co. from accusations, and then there is a ready excuse, and what a great one!
    Interestingly, maybe Serdyukov himself wrote it? Or paid?


    Serdyukov accidentally will not be one of them ...
  28. andruha70
    +2
    25 September 2013 20: 14
    Psheks want again, that in Russia everyone would die of laughter? hey, psheki ... enlighten ... from laughter, you can describe ... laughing but not die ... tongue
  29. +2
    25 September 2013 20: 15
    truncated drinks Russians were scared !! feel request thought -Baltic supermen! drinks
  30. +4
    25 September 2013 20: 16
    Our Polish friends again try to convince themselves that the Russian Federation is an enemy for them laughing fool
  31. +2
    25 September 2013 20: 17
    It is very good that such "critical" articles of our "friends" and neighbors are being published! Today this makes it possible to understand some "dark" but true traditions of the "dumbbells" that the praise of the enemy is worse than abuse!
  32. +1
    25 September 2013 20: 20
    Funny article))) Angry means we are going the right way ..!
    1. +4
      25 September 2013 21: 13
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Funny article))) Angry means we are going the right way ..!

      Haha Angry! Yes, they are constantly shaking from fear, a little shouting loudly in the Kremlin, they are written and even pooped. They don’t even hope for NATU. Not a country, but some kind of Jumble.
  33. +2
    25 September 2013 20: 24
    Quote: FC Skif
    If the Poles hate Shoigu and praise Serdyuk, then everything is done correctly

    Something I did not notice the groaning of Mr. Minister of Defense, on the contrary:
    "Serdyukov's successor, Sergei Shoigu, is acting wisely: he does not scold the defense industry out loud, does not declare that he will buy everything abroad, but does not break contracts at the same time. He allows the brigades to be called divisions, but does not return the previous organizational forms. Only symbols returned: shoulder straps on field uniforms will again move from chest to shoulders, and the Suvorovites will, as before, march on May 9 on Red Square. "
  34. +1
    25 September 2013 20: 26
    Another (before him there was Senator McCain) "benefactor" of Russia and its army has appeared again. The "benefactor" of the centuries-old "friends" of Russia - the Poles. And all that he sees and all that he knows. In his opinion, we are doing quite the opposite in matters of defense, and Serdyukov is good. And the disrespectful Lyakh knows that his article will be despised by normal Russian people. And still spoils the paper ...
  35. 0
    25 September 2013 20: 32
    If the enemy praises, then something is being done wrong. Praise Serdyukov it once again locks
  36. +1
    25 September 2013 20: 37
    Lyakhs live with memories of the Commonwealth and dream of an empire "from Mozha to Mozha." And in no way do they want to admit that if it were not for Comrade Stalin --- there would be no access to the Baltic, neither the lands of East Prussia, nor part western (natively German) lands. and they really want to return to the borders of 1939, but I think they won't want to give back the acquisitions of 1945.
    1. 0
      25 September 2013 23: 00
      I'm Russian
      Eh, it's time to give up a cry, come on. comrades neighbors. we give up the legacy of the bad Stalin and return to the borders of 39 years .. everything! :))) Well, the Germans will definitely not come to us anymore, in my opinion, they climbed five hundred years ahead (we have general frost and evil commissars), but castrated Poland and some Baltic states would look very pale ... :) )))
  37. ran nearby
    +2
    25 September 2013 20: 38
    Mina personally liked it very much :) I even set it up.
    Not because I share the point of view of the "author". Quite the opposite, I disagree with him around. But still hilarious :)
  38. -5
    25 September 2013 20: 40
    Again, the Poles did not please Great Russia and the local Sites here --- funny.
    Reading the comments, I am convinced that many have the same complexes that are attributed to the Poles, but at least they are a small power :), and here are ours ... with the same problems.
    Normal journalism, article +.
    1. 0
      4 October 2013 23: 39
      Quote: Des10
      Normal journalism, article +


      Especially about Serdyukov touches. We have already found a guardian for the interests of Russia. This "normal journalism" can be used to diagnose the author fool
  39. +2
    25 September 2013 20: 45
    Again, it seems, Poland flew from "Mozha to Mozha", so "Pshek" is getting nervous
  40. -4
    25 September 2013 20: 48
    Say a word about the "poor" Pole ...... Well, a man wrote an article, well, he expressed his opinion! And what is the answer? Continuous emotions and the screen splattered with saliva, it is not very pleasant to read such comments. It can be assumed that some Russians do not quite adequately respond to people who have a different understanding of what is happening! We behave in about the same way on the street, on the road, at work!
    1. +4
      25 September 2013 23: 22
      Starina_hank
      I do not know how you behave on the street and at work, perhaps exactly the way you write to us all ... but the article is most relevant for people like you ... you clearly cannot imagine that this is not a separate article - this is an article in the spirit of a policy supported by the state of Poland, a consistent policy that has not changed for the last five hundred years (moreover, it is still very correct, written by a talented person who understands our realities). If we read here what comes out of the bowels of the Institute of National Remembrance, you would have less skepticism ... take an interest :))) and the propaganda magazine "New Poland", distributed free of charge in the Kaliningrad region, would lead you to the conclusion that we are bloody maniacs, and it would be fair to dismember and reduce us in numbers ... of course. having previously robbed ... oh. sorry, after demanding compensation for our centuries-old crimes against humanity ...
      This is not a different opinion, it is a consistent state Russophobic policy ... at least that's for you, I hope. understandably?... :)))
  41. 0
    25 September 2013 21: 05
    Psheks calm themselves with fairy tales or what? Before World War II, they acted like hyenas, trying to chop off a piece of Czechoslovakia to themselves. And now, not even hyenas ... Jackal from Mowgli Tabaki, this is the current brand and the face of Pshek statehood. Only in the north they definitely have nothing to do, they will not be happy to say the least.
  42. -1
    25 September 2013 21: 08
    Serdyukov’s successor Sergei Shoigu acts reasonably: he does not scold the defense industry aloud, does not declare that he will buy everything abroad,

    watch to the end!
  43. +1
    25 September 2013 21: 09
    Through such rear glass “trophies” young Russians look at their army, with which they feel connected, but in which they don’t want to serve at all. For them, it is still great, red, invincible and marching under the red “serpasto-hammer” banner of victory.
    It should be recognized that the myth of such an invincible, and at the same time aggressive and dangerous army, is also alive in the West, which perceives any teachings of the Russian armed forces practically as a precursor of invasion.


    Euros, especially Poles, love to brag about how well they live in their Europe.
    Only one thing is not clear which shaggy angel they constantly look east and laugh, as if from good Europe and good Poland, with good, strong and good NATO armies, to invade bad Russia with a bad army in which no one wants to serve.
  44. Mark III
    +3
    25 September 2013 21: 18
    `the owners of the very popular German cars here imagine themselves as winners`
    So you know who defeated the Nazis, four tankmen (Poles) and a dog!
    1. Doctor
      +3
      25 September 2013 23: 34
      Three Poles, Georgians and a dog ... - it will be more accurate.
  45. Alex 241
    +3
    25 September 2013 21: 21
    Quote: Mark III
    German cars
    Yes, we still defeat the Germans, Russian roads kill German cars laughing
  46. +3
    25 September 2013 21: 24
    No emotion, listen Vaclav Radzivinovich if necessary, we’ll come and expel.
  47. +3
    25 September 2013 21: 39
    This Bzdyshek Perdyshevsky himself probably did not understand WHAT country and WHAT army he was assigned to junk.
  48. bagpipe
    +1
    25 September 2013 21: 43
    sometimes such materials appear in such a swamp - for sobering up and adequate assessment of what is happening by those discussing and commenting.
  49. ё.ё.ё.rus
    +5
    25 September 2013 22: 05
    she served invincible, fought, I know.
  50. 0
    25 September 2013 22: 27
    Psheki are still spraying saliva on us.
  51. +1
    25 September 2013 22: 28
    How much does this order cost? And where to put the minuses?
  52. +2
    25 September 2013 22: 30
    Yes, apparently the Poles were so frightened by the joint Russian-Belarusian exercises that they began to praise Serdyukov, who was essentially destroying the Russian army.
    1. The comment was deleted.
  53. +2
    25 September 2013 22: 41
    The West doesn’t like Rogozin, so he’s doing everything right
  54. 0
    25 September 2013 22: 55
    Our enemies are wishful thinking, which is not surprising...
  55. 0
    25 September 2013 23: 11
    Academician Utkin Vladimir Fedorovich, also Russian.
  56. chushoj
    +1
    25 September 2013 23: 41
    The Poles are the most Russo-hating nation!!! Evil and cunning.
    In Belarus, I not only learned to resist their dirty tricks (which are not repeated!!!), but also to effectively counteract them. I think that when there is a unification of the Slavic peoples, I will be useful in this most interesting territory - Belarus. We are waiting for you, Russian brothers, we are really waiting for you.
  57. avg
    +1
    25 September 2013 23: 45
    Here is a true Pole. He struts around, writes, but he’s scared - he’s screaming! And it is right!
  58. +2
    25 September 2013 23: 52
    Pole is a diagnosis. Therefore, let us treat the author with leniency..)))
  59. +3
    25 September 2013 23: 53
    Before WWII, Poland had a pact with Germany similar to Molotov-Ribbentrop. As well as guarantees from Britain and France for military assistance in the event of an attack by Germany. (and Czechoslovakia was given the same)
    who were simply handed over to Hitler. but Poland managed to show off, feeling like a global player.

    1938.05.21
    Saturday FRANCE. Paris. The Polish Ambassador in Paris Łukasiewicz, who had returned from Warsaw the day before, assured the US Ambassador to France Bullitt that Poland would immediately declare war on the USSR if he attempted to send troops through Polish territory to help Czechoslovakia, and that Soviet aircraft, if they appeared over Poland on their way to Czechoslovakia will be immediately attacked by Polish aircraft.

    1938.09.19
    Monday GERMANY. Berlin. Polish Ambassador Lipsky informed A. Hitler about the desire of the Polish government to completely liquidate Czechoslovakia as an independent state, since the Polish government considers “the Czechoslovak Republic as an artificial creation... not related to the real needs and healthy rights of the peoples of Central Europe.”

    1938.09.20
    Tuesday GERMANY. Berlin. German-Polish agreement on the coordination of military actions against Czechoslovakia.

    1938.09.22
    Thursday GERMANY. Bad Godesberg. Visit of British Prime Minister N. Chamberlain. After listening to Chamberlain's message that Czechoslovakia was ready to cede the Sudetenland to Germany, A. Hitler demanded territorial concessions from Czechoslovakia for Poland and Hungary.

    POLAND. Warsaw. The Polish government announced the denunciation of the Polish-Czechoslovak treaty on national minorities, and a few hours later presented Czechoslovakia with an ultimatum to annex “lands with a Polish population” to Poland.

    Czechoslovakia. Prague. Appeal from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to the government of the USSR with a request to influence Poland, which is concentrating its troops on the border with Czechoslovakia.

    1938.09.23
    Friday USSR. Moscow. NKID note to the Polish government with a warning about the denunciation of the non-aggression pact between the USSR and Poland dated July 25.07.1932, XNUMX, if Polish troops cross the border of Czechoslovakia.

    1938.09.30
    Friday GERMANY. Munich. The Munich Agreement was signed by Germany (A. Hitler), Great Britain (N. Chamberlain), France (E. Daladier) and Italy (B. Mussolini) on the transfer of the Sudetenland to Czechoslovakia by Germany and the satisfaction, at the expense of Czechoslovakia, of the territorial claims of Hungary and Poland within 3 months .

    POLAND. Warsaw. Meeting between Foreign Minister Y. Beck and the US Ambassador on the issue of annexing the Cieszyn region of Czechoslovakia to Poland. Immediately after the conversation with the ambassador, Beck sent the text of the corresponding ultimatum and the Czechoslovak government by special plane to the Polish ambassador in Prague.
  60. +5
    25 September 2013 23: 53
    1938.10.01
    Saturday CZECHOSLOVAKIA. Prague. The Ambassador of Poland presented the Foreign Ministry with an ultimatum from the Polish government demanding that the Cieszyn region be transferred to Poland.
    In the evening, Polish troops entered the Cieszyn region.

    1938.11.02
    Wednesday GERMANY. Vein. The "Vienna Arbitration" assigned the Teszyn district to Poland.

    Winston Churchill. book "World War II" writes
    Poland, with the greed of a hyena, took part in the robbery and destruction of the Czechoslovak state.

    And then the Poles completely lost it. began to consider the Anschluss of Lithuania. And also the possibility of expanding the “Living” space of Greater Poland by conquering colonies on the African continent

    At the same time, they thought that they would take part in the division of the USSR as Hitler's allies.

    From the report of the 2nd department of the main headquarters of the Polish Army. 1938
    The dismemberment of Russia lies at the heart of Polish policy in the East. Therefore, our possible position will be reduced to the following formula.
    Who will participate in the section?
    Poland must not remain passive at this remarkable historical moment. The challenge is to prepare well in advance, physically and mentally.
    The main goal is the weakening and defeat of Russia.

    Hitler put an end to this issue in 1939.
    The Poles are a pathetic, incapable, boastful bunch. This is as well known to the English as to us.

    Pavel Vechorkovich. Polish historian. 2005
    The best evidence of the British plans is that from the very day of signing they knew about the secret Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact, which they received from von Herwarth, an employee of the German Embassy in Moscow.
    Of course, they did not inform the Poles about this, so as not to accidentally prevent the start of the war.
    The British and French knew what would happen on September 17th. Poland was written off as an expense.

    This is how the history of “Greater Poland” ended.
  61. +3
    26 September 2013 00: 08
    As a child I really loved watching the film Four Tankmen and a Dog good I read the article and realized they forgot to indicate the mouse that was gnawing on the wires in the engine compartment hi
  62. +2
    26 September 2013 00: 08
    It’s strange: where do SUCH Poles come from? I have never noticed Russophobia among my colleagues from Poland (or Polish colleagues from other countries). And how do you look at the press or Foreign Media - rattle, sir... From what trash incubator do such characters hatch?
  63. ss25
    +4
    26 September 2013 00: 12
    Serdyukov dared to assert that the products of the domestic defense industry are suitable at most for parades, but not for combat - he could not read further, is this T 72 and Kalashnikov weapons for parades?
    1. +1
      5 October 2013 00: 05
      Quote: ss25
      I couldn’t read further, is this T 72 and Kalashnikov weapons for parades?


      And they buy it all over the world exclusively for ceremonial purposes. smile
  64. 0
    26 September 2013 08: 17
    Funny article. No matter what they say, they know - Once...on...
  65. +2
    26 September 2013 08: 45
    It’s interesting how the military-political Mosques, feigning respectability, try to evaluate the actions, and even the great country itself.
  66. +1
    26 September 2013 10: 00
    I always considered myself a normal person, not a patriot, not a Nazi, not a Ural-liberal. But what can all sorts of things bring a normal person to? But I’ll still try to be more correct than I would like. IT'S NOT FOR YOU, POLISH GIRL, TO TALK ABOUT VIRGINITY. YOU DID CHANGE EVERYONE IN EUROPE NOW YOU'RE DOING CHANGE WITH THE SWALLOWING OF YOUR Overseas FUCK So close your mouth and wait for them to insert you into all your breathing and sniffing again.
  67. pahom54
    +1
    26 September 2013 10: 10
    There is nothing to reap from the Poles except such judgments... Everything is distorted, and in the article Serdyukov appears white and fluffy... After all, from time immemorial, for the Poles, Russia has been a bone in the throat, and so it remains so... And people said earlier it was true - since the Poles scold Rogozin and Shoigu and praise Taburetkin, it means that at the moment everything in the Russian Armed Forces is going the normal way, and God grant both Rogozin and Shoigu, and our Armed Forces, invincibility, as in the old days!
  68. 0
    26 September 2013 11: 33
    Why even post articles by Russophobes here?
    1. 0
      27 September 2013 08: 11
      Quote: links
      Why even post articles by Russophobes here?

      As an indicator, a litmus test. Well, and to increase the “mental tone”.
  69. +1
    26 September 2013 11: 44
    The Poles are itching. They forgot that the only guarantor of their borders with Germany is Russia. The Polish leadership has no brains.
  70. Saharok
    0
    26 September 2013 13: 42
    If everyone tells us that we have no enemies,
    And Russia doesn’t need so many bayonets,
    If secrets are surrendered, cut shelves -
    This means that enemies are preparing a war for us.

    something like this... =)
  71. 0
    26 September 2013 23: 14
    Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
    In the Poles, I used to think that the United States is the largest Russophobian country. Nooo. This turns out to be Poland. Wacky people. Poland will always be fine dirt under the nails of such a country as RUSSIA.

    This has been going on since ancient times..They tried to crush Russia..it didn’t work out for them (they got it in full)..And then Tsarist Russia trampled them for a long time for this..and under the USSR we tried to calm them down..It’s useless, apparently..Again will have to be taught like the Balts .. The Turks and the Arabs need to learn them again .. (soon the wave will start ..)))
  72. Stasi
    0
    30 September 2013 13: 12
    Indeed, the Poles cannot come to terms with the fact that in the period from the 17th to the 18th centuries, Russia managed to close trade and economic ties with Europe by defeating Poland in this rivalry. As a result: Poland has turned into a backward outskirts of Europe, into a dull and provincial country, as the Polish writer Stanislaw Lem put it. And this is exactly what the Poles cannot forgive us for. Then Catherine the Second, for some reason of her own, decided to annex Poland to Russia, this was a mistake on her part. Judging by the way the Soviet army is reviled, and its victories and power are called a myth, the Poles have completely forgotten that they owe their existence to our soldiers who gave their lives for the liberation of Poland; in total, 600.000 of our soldiers died during the liberation of the Poles. And even in their films they present the story in such a way that the Polish Army won, and the Red Army just ran past. Anyone who has watched the film “Four Tank Men and a Dog” will understand. But even such films from the Soviet period are now banned in Poland. As for Serdyukov and company, it seems that the Poles are very upset that this gentleman did not complete the collapse of our Armed Forces.
  73. Mikkado31
    0
    4 October 2013 22: 21
    Competent article. And the comments are purely......a mischief. You citizens listen to Misha Leontyev. He, too, is not known to sympathize with the West, but he competently explained everything about Serdyukov. Half of the Russian army exists only on paper. “Unparalleled in the world” weapons models have remained at the development level. If even the Georgians were able to shoot down a Russian “strategist” with an old Buk, then what can we say about the Poles or Turks?
    1. Arabist
      0
      4 October 2013 22: 25
      Your army can only fight the banana republics, and only in crowds. So it’s not for you to judge us.
  74. kelevra
    0
    18 December 2013 19: 07
    The Polish neighbors live in some strange world invented only for themselves and are still trying to denigrate someone!