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Arab billions on Russian roads

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The United Arab Emirates decided to invest in Russia a lot of money - five billion dollars. The press wrote that the money will be built roads (including the Central Ring), communication networks, airports. However, other analysts suggest that road projects pay for themselves very slowly and may in general be unprofitable, which speaks of political interest covered by Arab bounty.


12 September The Russian Direct Investment Fund and the Department of Finance of Abu Dhabi signed an agreement on the allocation of up to 5 billion dollars for infrastructure projects in Russia. This was announced by the general director of the fund, Kirill Dmitriev, reports "Sight" with reference to ITAR-TASS.

He clarified that the money will go to "the construction of roads, ports, airports." “We intend to invest in the Central Ring Road,” said Dmitriev. According to him, "this is the largest investment in the infrastructure consortium in the world, the largest investment from the Arab countries in Russia."

However, one should not think that this is the first major investment of the UAE in the Russian Federation. In 2010, the Emirates entered the top ten largest investors in the Russian economy for the first time. UAE investment in Russia then amounted to about 18 billion dollars.

As Olga Samofalova writes ("Sight"), the impetus for Arab generosity was the exceptional tax breaks that Russia granted to investing state-owned companies.

In addition, a number of measures were previously taken to intensify investment cooperation: in August 2013 entered into force an agreement on the promotion and protection of investments, in June an agreement on taxation of investment income. In June, the RDIF and the Emirate sovereign fund Mubadala created a joint investment fund with a volume of 2 billion dollars - contributions in half, within the framework of the RDIF mandate on co-investment on a parity basis.

It is noted that most of the money “Mubadala” will be invested according to the principle of the attractiveness of each project, and the remaining part of the funds will be used by the RDIF according to the principle of automatic co-investment.

And on the eve of the signing of the papers, the government of the Russian Federation approved a draft law on ratification of an agreement with the United Arab Emirates on tax exemption of investment income for state-owned companies of both countries. The agreement itself was signed in December 2011. The signed document, notes O. Samofalov, has a truncated version: tax breaks apply only to government agencies, which include central banks, state pension funds of the parties, central and regional governments, financial and investment companies, which are state-owned by 100%.

The Arab side received profit tax benefits from Russia, a zero dividend rate, and protection from taxation of interest and income from the sale of property (except for real estate). The Russian investor in the UAE will receive preferences for corporate tax and income tax.

“It is important to zero the dividend tax, which in Russia is 15%. With other countries, Russia is usually not so generous and only reduces the tax on dividends from 15% to 5-10%. Meanwhile, it was precisely the zeroing of this tax that helped seriously interest the state investors from the UAE. As a result, Russia did not lose ... "


As the IA "REGNUM" With reference to the Kremlin’s press service, 12 of September, Vladimir Putin met with the Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi, Deputy Supreme Commander of the UAE Sun. Mohammed Al Nahyan. During the conversation, the Russian president said: “We have very good relations with your country, and, of course, the Emirates are Russia's leading trade and economic partner in the Middle East, one of the leading ones. In general, the volume of trade is not so big, it can be much more - 1,5 billion. But we have very good prospects and growth trends. ” Vladimir Putin added: “Great opportunities are opening up in the field of investment cooperation, and I am very pleased to note your agreement with the Russian Direct Investment Fund on joint work and on possible investments in this joint work of up to 5 billion dollars. I hope that this work will develop successfully, and we, of course, will support and administratively accompany it in every way. ”

Mohammed Al Nahyan said in response that "we are doing everything possible to build bridges between the two states - the Russian Federation and the United Arab Emirates." He noted that the UAE is engaged in large investments in the world, and said: “I thank you, Excellency, for giving us the opportunity to build such a new bridge for relations with Russia. We have strong confidence and confidence in your market, which is why we are in your country today and we hope that investment projects will be successfully implemented and built up. ”

Now to the question of what will be “successfully implemented and built up in Russia”.

Igor Naumov and Mikhail Sergeev ("Independent newspaper") indicate that the conditions of investment of the Arab sovereign fund in Russian projects to experts are not clear. For example, a large project for the Central Ring Road may be unprofitable. But foreign sovereign funds need to be given a refund guarantee.

Alexander Razuvaev, director of Alpari’s analytical department, says: “In the case of such investments, Russian state structures are the guarantor of the return of funds. At least, foreigners perceive their obligations as a sovereign Russian debt. At the same time, agreements may establish a minimum percentage of profitability plus a share in the profits from investments in a joint venture. ”

The article notes that specific investment agreements are, as a rule, opaque. Such investments actually increase the external public debt, even if formally they do not belong to the debts of the government.

Igor Nikolaev, director of the Institute for Strategic Analysis at FBK, says: “Theoretically, infrastructure projects can be recouped. But in the Russian context, calculations for the profitability of long-term investments may not be justified. ” According to him, the entry of Abu Dhabi into Russian projects may be part of political agreements that Russians may never know about.

And Dmitry Sorokin, first deputy director of the Institute of Economics of the Russian Academy of Sciences, believes that investment in gas pipelines and oil pipelines is of interest to Abu Dhabi, and not in roads. “This is also infrastructure, the same as roads and railways, communications,” explains the scientist. According to D. Sorokin, Arabs are unlikely to agree to invest money in something other than the "pipe". Investments in the transport infrastructure imply long return periods, and it’s not a fact that the investment will pay off altogether.

Analyzing the V.O. Novoyaryov meeting and the delegation of the leadership of the Emirate of Abu Dhabi, Dmitry Butrin (Kommersant) First of all, it notes that the investments of the UAE and other countries of the Persian Gulf through the RDIF are designed, among other things, to stabilize the Russian foreign policy position on key issues of the region, especially on the Syrian one.

As for direct investment, according to Kommersant, first of all, Abu Dhabi is interested in the Central Ring Road, the project of reconstruction of the federal highway М11, projects in the field of telecommunications and power grid infrastructure.

Love Lyulko (Pravda.ru) reminds that the merit in the conclusion of the transaction belongs to Kirill Dmitriev - the former banker of Goldman Sachs. Also, the analyst notes that the crown prince, who met with Putin, is the deputy Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the United Arab Emirates.

Kirill Dmitriev is a graduate of Starford University and Harvard Graduate School of Business. At the beginning of his career, he worked as an investment banker at Goldman Sachs in New York and a consultant at McKinsey & Co. in Los Angeles, Moscow and Prague.

The author of the article points out that road infrastructure has always been a weak point of the Russian economy. But only for the World Cup 2018 of the Russian Federation need to build 7,7 thousand. Km and 2 thousands of kilometers of railways, which will cost 35 billion dollars.

L. Lyulko also recalls that the crown prince of Abu Dhabi arrived in Russia after the Prince of Saudi Arabia, Bandar bin Sultan (general intelligence chief). At the same time, the UAE is an ally of the United States and Saudi Arabia. The analyst points out that the emirate of Abu Dhabi has recently invested 13 billion dollars in Turkish projects, so investments in Russia are relatively small. The material ends with a curious conclusion that “the more rich sheikhs are involved in the economy of the Russian Federation, the more cautious they will behave in determining their political preferences.”

Thus, while it is premature to talk about the specific investments of five billion dollars. There is no point in judging the political component, if any. In the end, the UAE invested in Russia before - for example, in 2010, which could not be connected with the Syrian issue.

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  1. a52333
    a52333 26 September 2013 07: 36 New
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    Good morning. IMHO, this is a test ball. An attempt to find a new patron, in case the vector of the American position changes.
    1. Canep
      Canep 26 September 2013 08: 12 New
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      The question is - what is behind such a noble intention? How then will Russia burp these roads?
      1. Quiet
        Quiet 26 September 2013 08: 42 New
        +9
        The question is - what is behind such a noble intention? How then will Russia burp these roads?

        To begin with, our "eternally hungry" bureaucrats prepared everything for the "cut" !!! angry And then, as always, more sand and less asphalt! Once the guarantor of the Russian government, it will be calculated. Maybe for proforma he’ll plant a couple not very nimble. That's it! angry
        1. Airman
          Airman 26 September 2013 09: 46 New
          12
          Quote: Quiet
          The question is - what is behind such a noble intention? How then will Russia burp these roads?

          To begin with, our "eternally hungry" bureaucrats prepared everything for the "cut" !!! angry And then, as always, more sand and less asphalt! Once the guarantor of the Russian government, it will be calculated. Maybe for proforma he’ll plant a couple not very nimble. That's it! angry

          And what is this central ring road? Where is she going? Or will pass? And most importantly, tax free. After all, Kirill Dmitriev, a banker, had a hand in the deal. It smacks of another scam.
          1. DJEIN8
            DJEIN8 26 September 2013 13: 06 New
            +2
            PVShshnik 09:46 Also the first thought caused by the interest of such "friends" that how much they poke on these roads, and even they will not need spy satellites .....
            and round-the-clock surveillance ...... with the current technologies ...... you can’t keep track of the construction ..... you don’t have to wait from such others ...... and from our corrupt creatures ...
            Recall the case of wagons with U.S. intelligence equipment ......... How many traveled and
            really what nobody turned up to the end will tell .....
          2. Ascetic
            Ascetic 26 September 2013 13: 28 New
            +5
            Quote: Povshnik
            And what is this central ring road? Where is she going? Or will pass? And most importantly, tax free. After all, Kirill Dmitriev, a banker, had a hand in the deal. It smacks of another scam.


            As for the project itself. The total length is 521 km. The number of lanes is from 4 to 8, 34 interchanges and 278 bridges, overpasses and overpasses. Here you can count 5 billion dollars. at 521km. Plus, you still need to consider not only Arab money but also 60 billion rubles. Private Equity Fund. The construction cost of the Central Ring Road is estimated at 300 billion rubles. They want to make the road toll, what will be the payment is still unknown.

            1. 31231
              31231 26 September 2013 14: 32 New
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              Certainly a necessary thing. Tuples of officials and simply rich "Pinocchio" will leave the usual routes. Yes, and many taxis, buses will be easier to pay 50-500 rubles and rush with the breeze.
        2. dark_65
          dark_65 26 September 2013 19: 38 New
          +1
          apparently they didn’t work with our bureaucrats, and there are such aces on the cut.
      2. Ossetian.
        Ossetian. 26 September 2013 10: 05 New
        +4
        Canep

        I think nothing ... they just lick, in case Russia suddenly starts asking from those who harmed it. All the same, they all already understand the reality where Russia will ask and the demand from them will be tough but fair.
      3. creak
        creak 26 September 2013 11: 32 New
        +5
        It is not necessary to worry that the Arabs will invest 5 billion in the construction of roads (they will remain with us in any situation), but to attend to the leak of capital, which, according to preliminary data, will exceed 70 billion dollars. The establishment of an elementary order in the economy, the fight against embezzlement not in words, but in fact will allow us to equip the country on our own. Less desire to put dust in the gas with pompous projects and more desire to spend money to make the lives of ordinary people (and not just theirs) worthy. Do not forget about those who can not take care of themselves, children, the elderly, the disabled, for example, regularly boarding schools located in unattached buildings, for the repair of which for some reason there is never any money, and, for example, for the maintenance of an immeasurable number of personal cars with drivers, they are not burned ... These examples can be multiplied ...
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 26 September 2013 17: 13 New
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          creak

          We’ll build corruption for the stake - we have money, and there is money.
      4. Ascetic
        Ascetic 26 September 2013 13: 12 New
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        Quote: Canep
        The question is - what is behind such a noble intention? How then will Russia burp these roads?


        It is possible to raise the question in another way. How then will the Arabs burp Russian roads? recourse These are all the machinations of enemies. They want to deprive Russia of our main strategic advantage in the war. smile


      5. AVV
        AVV 26 September 2013 15: 22 New
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        The main thing is that the money go in the right direction, and not cut!
      6. kavkaz8888
        kavkaz8888 26 September 2013 16: 02 New
        +1
        The main thing is that these are not kickbacks for Syria.
      7. timer
        timer 28 September 2013 00: 20 New
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        I also strongly doubt that the Arabs were so interested in our roads. I think that most likely this is a screen and it hides the price for a political agreement on some problem (but this is an open question and is not known to us).
    2. vadimus
      vadimus 26 September 2013 08: 18 New
      -4
      Are Saudis transferring their capital to Moscow? Judging by the number of gaster this is real ....
      1. Hon
        Hon 26 September 2013 08: 26 New
        +4
        Gaster from Saudi Arabia?
      2. 31231
        31231 26 September 2013 11: 17 New
        +6
        Saud ?! Like talking about the Emirates. Or for you as for the Americans, that Chechnya, that the Czech Republic.
      3. Guun
        Guun 26 September 2013 11: 45 New
        +5
        What is in Saudi and what is in the Emirates - people drown in chocolate (except for Shiites - they drown in blood). You don’t work and you get money from the king - after all, the Arab is in any way - so that the people would not raise uprisings against the authorities, they give the people loot by putting them to sleep in luxury and wealth. There is oil - no brains.
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 26 September 2013 13: 10 New
          +3
          There is no rebellion in Saudi Arabia because it is one of the crimes of the category of hoodies and is punishable by death.
    3. Fin
      Fin 26 September 2013 09: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: a52333
      This is a test ball. An attempt to find a new patron, in case the vector of the American position changes.

      I agree. Arabs feel the changes in the world and, just in case, throw money, and suddenly tomorrow protection will be needed. Moreover, they won’t give all at once. Stretched for 5 years at billions per year. Loot enough will not be noticeable. Perhaps a hidden bribe to officials.
    4. user
      user 26 September 2013 10: 21 New
      +3
      And this is not a continuation of the topic of 15 billion dollars if Russia merges Syria?
      Everything is too smooth.
    5. sapsan14
      sapsan14 26 September 2013 10: 25 New
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      Good afternoon!
      IMHO, this is a test ball.
      Roads in Russia - 100% arrived in the shortest possible time, and even under state guarantees.
      Raspberry!
    6. knn54
      knn54 26 September 2013 12: 33 New
      +1
      -a52333: Trying to find a new patron, in case the vector of the American position changes.
      We realized that you should not put eggs in one basket ...
    7. seller trucks
      seller trucks 26 September 2013 13: 56 New
      +1
      The press writes that roads (including the Central Ring Road), communication networks, and airports will be built with this money.


      but I don’t understand what caused the negative in relation to the investments of the United Arab Emirates. As for the Central Ring Road, the project is needed, how much traffic jams can already be endured on the Moscow Ring Road due to long-distance transit trucks, fines increased to 5 thousand, one figs go if they make the Central Ring Road a toll road for trucks, it’s better to drive there than through Koltsevaya, because you are ready to pay five fines. This is one point. Initially, it was planned to bring all customs and cargo terminals to the level of this same Central Ring Road (second concrete), again, a decrease in freight traffic through Moscow.
      There is still a point in which I am not very sure, but I admit as a working idea. In Russia, there is no Russian Railways competitor in transportation, the development of toll roads will create serious competition for railways and should pay off with interest.
      Further. quality of roads. I’m a person who is possibly not direct, more indirect and nevertheless related to the construction of roads, well, I’m also the car owner, therefore I use the road myself. I can say the following, "inspected" two roads M-1 and M-4, the first, to Minsk, a fairy tale, the second, in the process of repair every year everything is better to Belgorod. So they can when they want. You gentlemen have seen what equipment is currently being used for road construction? Is a song good European, new. I understand that it would be better to domestic, but unfortunately they do not produce or do G ...
      And the last thing, do not consider yourself smarter than others, fools do not live in the UAE, they can count and think money. So this is beneficial for them.

      Threat. such projects are usually serviced by large companies based on the results of open tenders, you should not be confused with small DRSU and SK, I already wrote about technology, you can read about quality and technologies used in nete, if you are interested in: ARKS, Transstroy, Mostotrest, Autobahn - serious holdings With name.
    8. Sandov
      Sandov 26 September 2013 17: 10 New
      +2
      I do not trust Wahhabi sponsors. They will stir up crap, then deal with them.
      1. alone
        alone 26 September 2013 20: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Sandov
        I do not trust Wahhabi sponsors. They will stir up crap, then deal with them.


        wassat
        they are not sponsors of Wahhabis. they themselves Wahhabis)))
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 26 September 2013 21: 09 New
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          As far as I know, only Saudis and Qatari are Wahhabis. Wahhabism itself originated in Saudi Arabia in 1743.
          1. alone
            alone 26 September 2013 21: 23 New
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            all of them are of the same berry field. none of them inspire confidence
            1. Arabist
              Arabist 26 September 2013 21: 26 New
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              I am inclined to agree with you, but still there is some difference even between the states that are part of the GCC. Even differences in the movements of Islam and in rulers.
    9. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 26 September 2013 22: 44 New
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      Quote: a52333
      Good morning. IMHO, this is a test ball. An attempt to find a new patron, in case the vector of the American position changes

      I agree. Saudis today hang in the balance, the Syrian spring will crack them soon on the forehead. So they are trying to appease the Syrian ally in order to have a backup plan for the future. In addition, the Arabs are interested in our weapons, complete dependence on the United States has already got them.
  2. Denis
    Denis 26 September 2013 07: 38 New
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    It is necessary to introduce Arab executions for theft with Arab millions, so that this would not happen:
    1. Denis
      Denis 26 September 2013 08: 05 New
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      Quote: Denis
      It is necessary to introduce Arab executions for theft with Arab millions, so that this would not happen:

      then they will not find contractors with us laughing
      1. Hon
        Hon 26 September 2013 08: 27 New
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        Quote: Denis
        then they will not find contractors with us

        They will find Chechenstroy. Just who cuts something to someone, the big question.
      2. Denis
        Denis 26 September 2013 09: 57 New
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        Quote: Denis
        then they will not find contractors with us
        Well, at least we’ll save a face, though without roads, which are already gone
      3. Arabist
        Arabist 26 September 2013 13: 02 New
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        Arabs are not executed for theft.
        1. Denis
          Denis 26 September 2013 15: 14 New
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          Quote: Arabist
          Arabs are not executed for theft.
          At least a flogging public or a bat, maybe they will understand
  3. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 26 September 2013 07: 45 New
    +5
    The Saudis stirred ... The hour of reckoning has come .. They would force Syria to restore and pay the treatment of the pensions of all those who suffered from their bloody money .. That would be the case!
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 26 September 2013 10: 40 New
      +3
      Comrade, you mixed up the countries of the United Arab Emirates and the UAE, they are different wink
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 26 September 2013 12: 17 New
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        Quote: Max Otto
        they are different

        I also hope that the UAE is insured in case the world "elite" begins to merge Qatar and Saudi Arabia, then it is quite reasonable that the UAE (and even taking into account the firm position of the Russian Federation in Syria) want to have a built-in system for bilateral dialogue.
  4. 31231
    31231 26 September 2013 07: 48 New
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    If ours will build a road, under the supervision of ours, then the Emirates threw money down the drain.
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 September 2013 08: 01 New
    +2
    Control over the use of money should be severe. Although our "pyramids" will find where to grab a piece, but fatter.
  6. Ihrek
    Ihrek 26 September 2013 08: 17 New
    +6
    The problem of Russia is corruption that is everywhere, I think the main brake on the development of the country, development is certainly going on, but not as it could be. It is necessary to firmly suppress any of its manifestations. And you need to start from the top (with the former Minister of Defense and the former Minister of Agriculture and some current officials).
    1. King
      King 26 September 2013 08: 39 New
      +1
      Corruption and laws that do not work properly.
    2. Denis
      Denis 26 September 2013 10: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Jamal
      Russia's problem is corruption that is present everywhere
      Alas ...
  7. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 26 September 2013 08: 32 New
    +1
    damn survived we don’t have money for the roads, but I won’t believe it. the brakes in the development of the country are our elite. but will this money go to the roads? that’s not clean here, they will definitely go to our Wahhabis, to mosques and roads
  8. slacker
    slacker 26 September 2013 08: 39 New
    +3
    Investing is always good! And to ensure that they do not have a double bottom is the responsibility of the authorities.
    In this case, 5 billion is not very big money, so you should not see elements of a conspiracy there.
  9. Sterlya
    Sterlya 26 September 2013 08: 44 New
    +2

    The Moscow-Skolkovo road was well built. When one problem builds another problem, but still not knowing for what purpose. Nothing good comes to mind. One thing is clear that 1/3 of the minimum will be stolen, road construction is our favorite pastime of embezzlers
  10. Cap
    Cap 26 September 2013 09: 17 New
    +2
    They steal half, the second half will finance our vakhkhobbits. And to pay - to you and me ...
  11. JonnyT
    JonnyT 26 September 2013 09: 29 New
    +2
    They cover the rear, look for their patrons, an attempt to cool the “furious bear” a little ........ Or maybe an attempt to increase its influence in higher financial circles with the further possibility of lobbying their interests ........ We need to take a closer look read the terms of investment, only vryatli who will read it. Muddy all in one word ....
    1. Normal
      Normal 26 September 2013 15: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: JonnyT
      Muddy all in one word ...

      Very muddy ... Some sort of regular scam. Then
      that the merit in concluding the transaction belongs to Kirill Dmitriev, the former Goldman Sachs banker .....
      ......
      Kirill Dmitriev is a graduate of Starford University and Harvard Graduate School of Business. At the beginning of his career, he worked as an investment banker at Goldman Sachs in New York and as a consultant at McKinsey & Co. in Los Angeles, Moscow and Prague.
      should be very, very alarming. But, as we see, not our rulers
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  12. Alexey
    Alexey 26 September 2013 09: 59 New
    +1
    In my opinion, everything is simple. Money needs to be saved somehow. Preferably not in 1 place. Desirable places should be as much as possible - so more reliable. But the number of reliable places in the world is rapidly declining. It’s not a profit business to minimize losses. The USA is the main place for the contribution of the dollars received for oil ... Europe ... of course. Asia - big investments went there for a long time. Russia - what is not an option?
  13. Chever
    Chever 26 September 2013 10: 18 New
    0
    They are tortured to put in "colored paper": some cuts with kickbacks are worth laughing.
  14. pri3rak
    pri3rak 26 September 2013 10: 20 New
    0
    Timeo danaos et dona ferentes

    Something inspired, why would it?
  15. nemec55
    nemec55 26 September 2013 10: 21 New
    0
    What have already stolen their chtoli?
  16. Black
    Black 26 September 2013 10: 28 New
    +1
    During the conversation, the President of Russia noted: “We have very good relations with your country, ....
    Damn yourself, I thought, waking up .... belay

    And this, ... Cho right on the road then, maybe all first, forging the FOOL?
    1. svp67
      svp67 26 September 2013 10: 31 New
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      Quote: Chen
      “We have very good relations with your country, ....
      Damn yourself, I thought, waking up ....
      Everything is fine here, as with love for the mother-in-law, which increases in proportion to the square of the distance from it ...
      Quote: Chen
      And this, ... Cho right on the road then, maybe all first, forging the FOOL?
      The trouble is that they FEED them ... But soon they can also ASK a report on spending, then what?
    2. Glory333
      Glory333 26 September 2013 10: 34 New
      0
      This is called Diplomacy - the art of lying and deceit :)
    3. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 26 September 2013 11: 55 New
      0
      Nobody gives us money and will not give us for reforging fools. It is fraught.
  17. svp67
    svp67 26 September 2013 10: 42 New
    +2
    Our roads have always been for us and against our enemies
    And if now we will fix them with Arabic money, then we may lose one of the “allies” crying
    1. DJEIN8
      DJEIN8 26 September 2013 13: 24 New
      +2
      svp67 10:42 I already wrote about such a photo ... You have to be a moral freak, and it’s clear what a driver and commander it is that you WANTED to know (or there are no brains at all? ..) how it will end, to drive the tank into a similar situation .. .....
      Judging by the photos on the internet, there are enough such geeks in all countries ...
      And on the road you can ride in different ways ..........
  18. v.lyamkin
    v.lyamkin 26 September 2013 10: 50 New
    0
    Why are you all attacking the poor Arabs. And I would suggest expanding the program: to take all of us out for a rest from fatigue during the overhaul in the country.
    1. svp67
      svp67 26 September 2013 11: 53 New
      0
      They returned, and the country is already "EMPLOYED ..."
  19. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 26 September 2013 11: 21 New
    0
    Invest in Russian roads ??????????????? Why should the Arabs ???????
  20. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 26 September 2013 11: 38 New
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    I agree with those who consider this money laying the road to our heights. Quite honestly, this money will be invested in dorstroy (we have a lot of very good builders, with excellent equipment and they are now building really well. All-tramps can yell what they want, but it’s worth watching with their own eyes) and there may even be some kind of profit. But it is not important. The main thing is the ability to calmly walk around the offices. Bin Sultan wants this, intelligence is intelligence. Money? And remember: "we are not poor. And not greedy." In general, the money is worth taking. And clearly build counterplay. Given the fact that the enemy understands perfectly well that this is counterplay ...
    In general, it’s ridiculous to look at it. Home-grown princes from the provinces and amateurs from the hill are trying to play intelligence, and with WHOM ?! Well, purely children, our GDP looks and smiles softly ...
  21. pinecone
    pinecone 26 September 2013 11: 44 New
    0
    They are kind, but it’s unclear how to pay and then.
    1. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 26 September 2013 12: 00 New
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      Quote: pinecone
      They are kind, but it’s unclear how to pay and then.

      Investments always involve profits - this is not a gift. True hopes do not always come true. Probably these roads will be paid (but how else will you make a profit?)
  22. Diviz
    Diviz 26 September 2013 12: 06 New
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    5 billion for her money. What exactly they want can only guess. In the stars they see Russia has a bright future
  23. Ihrek
    Ihrek 26 September 2013 12: 18 New
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    If Arabs invest in Russia, it means they believe in its future, they don’t throw such money into the wind. If they are investing, why don't our some oligarchs do this. And do not buy all sorts of sports clubs abroad.
  24. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 26 September 2013 12: 45 New
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    What can I say, Arabs bought the rulers of America, now they are starting to buy ours. Well, let’s learn to steal Arap money, we don’t get used to it)
  25. morpogr
    morpogr 26 September 2013 12: 46 New
    0
    They just decided not to put all the eggs in one basket, and most likely they suspect that the dollar is not clean and decided to dilute this greenback with a ruble.
  26. fzr1000
    fzr1000 26 September 2013 14: 01 New
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    Why is everyone so scared about the UAE money? And the fact that in the first place the Moscow-S highway. Petersburg, the French invested, did not scare anyone? Give money - discussed the conditions. Profitable-take, unprofitable-do not take. There are a lot of roads to be built in Russia, so there is no need to be so afraid.
  27. Navigator2013
    Navigator2013 26 September 2013 14: 08 New
    +1
    There are no clearly defined programs in which roads to invest these billions. It seems that the UAE to one place the highway Volgograd - Chelyabinsk. And the payback will be stretched at the end of the century. But to invest in a transport pipe through which oil will flow from the Arctic to Europe is an idea. Here, the invested 5 billion will be worked out much faster. But why such a generous gift? One sees far-reaching plans to use Putin to influence B. Assad to lay a pipeline from Kuwait through Syria, Turkey to Europe. It didn’t work with bad Americans, it will work with good Russians. And the Russian government is on hand in anticipation of the upcoming world sports battles. And how much will break off from this Arab iceberg .... Let's not count money in someone else's pocket! laughing
    1. 31231
      31231 26 September 2013 14: 41 New
      0
      From which Arctic is the oil pipe ?! What nonsense ?! Current transneft oil pipelines fully meet the requirements of the economy.
      Kuwait through Syria, Turkey to Europe ?! Where is Iraq ?! And Jordan ?!
      All of these oil principalities are afraid to lay a pipe through foreign territory for one reason: they will become dependent on transit countries. So the tanker fleet and oil loading terminals are being sculpted. Although transportation is more expensive, it is possible to deliver it to any place and not to unfasten the profit for anyone for transit.
  28. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 26 September 2013 15: 01 New
    +3
    Oh, the roads ... laughing
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 26 September 2013 15: 02 New
      +1
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      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 26 September 2013 15: 03 New
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  29. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 26 September 2013 15: 03 New
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  30. NEMO
    NEMO 26 September 2013 15: 06 New
    +6
    Our neighbors are Belarusians, they build roads for themselves and without Arabs, because they, if anything, will have - "as in the 37th",
    Here is an example, for our part, only that the grass is greener lol :
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 26 September 2013 15: 32 New
      0
      Judging by the photo-Russian sappers began to mine the Minsk-Moscow highway))).
    2. abdrah
      abdrah 26 September 2013 15: 38 New
      +2
      Come on, tell me, in Russia the roads have not been the same for a long time, you are constantly working on it. For an example, drive to Ukraine through Novoshakhtinsk, Rostov Region, in my opinion, crossing the border there and getting to Nenko you immediately understand that Russia doesn’t everything is so bad.
    3. seller trucks
      seller trucks 26 September 2013 16: 54 New
      0
      Quote: NEMO
      Here is an example, on our part, only that the grass is greener


      You’re giving a break, in August I went to Minsk on vacation by car, the road near Smolensk was super, I drove under 160, in Belarus 120 cameras were fucked through 5 km, full-fledged 2 bands in each direction the whole way, and you rummage through the garbage can and take your word for it , (-) my lie
      1. NEMO
        NEMO 26 September 2013 21: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: seller trucks
        You’re giving a break, in August I went to Minsk on vacation by car, the road near Smolensk was super, I drove under 160, in Belarus 120 cameras were fucked through 5 km, full-fledged 2 bands in each direction the whole way, and you rummage through the garbage can and take your word for it , (-) my lie

        That you are so categorical in vain, you go on vacation once a year, and then on the M1 highway, built for the Olympics, but People do not all live on the M1, and someone has to go every day, so the difference is all feel !!!
  31. theadenter
    theadenter 26 September 2013 15: 17 New
    +1
    It seems to me that this is an “unobtrusive” attempt to “buy” Russia's support on “certain issues”.
  32. I'm Russian
    I'm Russian 26 September 2013 16: 51 New
    +2
    A few years ago, some Finnish and Chinese companies proposed to build thousands of km of high-quality roads. The cost of 1 km of roads was promised 2,5 times cheaper than in Russia. But could the Ary give such a tidbit. And if you look: what difference does it make that high-quality roads Finns or Chinese; or let your (?) Ary somehow?
  33. Brother
    Brother 26 September 2013 17: 19 New
    0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vArOUixOha4&feature=share&list=PL40FD20706382C414

    Do not touch the Russian roads!
  34. Zomanus
    Zomanus 26 September 2013 17: 38 New
    +1
    There is a persistent feeling that this money. immediately after entering the Russian accounts, foreign ones will go to the accounts. Then damn their stealing without hiding. and the guarantor himself ordered someone else’s. Not 37 year come ...
  35. Admiral 013
    Admiral 013 26 September 2013 18: 00 New
    0
    The global global financial government is gradually going east!
  36. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 26 September 2013 18: 52 New
    0
    I felt sorry for something of the Arabs ...

    All their noble intentions and billions of investments are being stolen.
    1. alone
      alone 26 September 2013 21: 02 New
      +1
      I do not believe them. the Arabs have become good. billions are scattered. when they gathered aid to the Palestinian people, the UAE allocated 30 thousand! dollars.)) for a reason climb to Russia.
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 26 September 2013 21: 05 New
        0
        Lonely, if I'm not mistaken, even before the events in Syria, Kuwait invested $ 500 billion in the Russian economy. I think you should not take all investments so negatively.
  37. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 26 September 2013 21: 13 New
    0
    Quote: Arabist
    Lonely, if I'm not mistaken, even before the events in Syria, Kuwait invested $ 500 billion in the Russian economy. I think you should not take all investments so negatively.

    And where did they put them (or rather, in whom and in what ???)
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 26 September 2013 21: 16 New
      0
      Wrong, 500 million to the Russian Investment Fund, as well as 1.5 billion to the Universiade in Kazan.
  38. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 26 September 2013 21: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: Arabist
    Wrong, 500 million to the Russian Investment Fund, as well as 1.5 billion to the Universiade in Kazan.

    It happens...)))
    “Do not hope that once you take advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly justifying you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it’s worth playing with the Russians honestly or not playing at all ”
    This is Bismarck !! It is useful for the Arabs (and others ..) with their oriental trick to study it ... so that later they do not lament that we did not know ..etc. bully
  39. nekromonger
    nekromonger 26 September 2013 22: 54 New
    +1
    a foreign contractor on the road and no questions. and our sawmills to epens.
  40. not good
    not good 27 September 2013 00: 18 New
    0
    It would be better if the Arabs invested in BAM and Transib, a real help in the development of the Far East.
    1. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 27 September 2013 15: 41 New
      0
      They do not help. This is an investment and they must be mutually beneficial. And which Arabs arrived from BAM ?. Tolley to make a paid Central Ring Road - where are you going to get away with it? It will be more expensive for itself
  41. USMC
    USMC 27 September 2013 00: 54 New
    0
    another 5 billion to fight with fools and your main problems have been resolved)))))
  42. In the reeds
    In the reeds 27 September 2013 10: 47 New
    0
    Quote: Ossetian.
    Canep

    I think nothing ... they just lick, in case Russia suddenly starts asking from those who harmed it. All the same, they all already understand the reality where Russia will ask and the demand from them will be tough but fair.

    How will demand be in Paris ...
  43. Savva30
    Savva30 27 September 2013 16: 43 New
    0
    Can't we build our own roads? Survived ... strategists hu ...
  44. nod739
    nod739 27 September 2013 22: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Savva30
    Can't we build our own roads? Survived ... strategists hu ...


    yeah, the Arabs will learn how to build roads, where it happens minus 30-40-50 and after zero the temperature jumps tens to three hundred times a year ....

    as for investments ...
    as I understand it, they invest ... and the customer pays, from Russian to Russian, the Arabs will do something for 5 billions. and the government will pay ...
    Well nichrome yourself a deal? can we do the roads ourselves? we can, and companies have workaholics and materials
  45. jjj
    jjj 28 September 2013 01: 46 New
    0
    To understand the essence, you need to know one feature. Muslims should not engage in usury. Therefore, they do not have banks. But money must be added. So, sovereign funds invest their own funds in construction around the world. In our case, 5 billion. With this money, design, purchase of materials and construction equipment is carried out, contractors are hired. When all work is completed, finished objects are sold to the customer. For a price that is higher. Thus, the Arabs are incrementing money and this is not haraam, the customer receives a finished object without much headache. In the case of Russia, the budget will also save on kickbacks
  46. Lindon
    Lindon 28 September 2013 09: 00 New
    +1
    School task:
    One oil country invests in another oil and gas power.
    The question is which of the 2 oil countries the government is managing more efficiently.