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A crime without a statute of limitations. Why did Yeltsin need to shoot the White House?

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Eighteen years ago, something happened in our country that later came to be called differently: insurgency, putsch, “Black October” ... Many words. Empty and meaningless. And the essence is the same: in the fall of 1993, a bloody coup d'état took place in Russia, for which none of the perpetrators has yet responded even morally.


We are talking about the tragic events of September 21 - October 5 1993. Many still have one question: why? After all, this is not something that could have been avoided - it could not start at all. But someone stubbornly warmed up the conflict between the branches of government. So who

I address my question to a well-known Russian politician, deputy of the Supreme Council - the highest parliamentary body of Russia 1990-ies, a direct participant in those bloody events, who almost became their victim - Sergei Baburin. Here is what he said:

- It was obvious: Yeltsin does not need a civilian world. Just not needed. For one simple reason: he wanted power. Absolute power. And his entourage wanted the freedom to steal as much as he wanted. And they really wanted to. Parliament interfered. And they decided to simply eliminate it. From the Kremlin, then, the provocation was for provocation. Rudeness for rudeness. Already in May, Yeltsin openly declared that he was going to "sort things out" with the Supreme Soviet, and began on him an "artillery preparation" ...

In practice, this meant streams of dirt on all television channels, massive brainwashing and a splash of such monstrous disgusting propaganda that I personally still feel sick. I have never seen anything like this before or after. Exempt from censorship of the Soviet-style media, corrupt political analysts, other "free-thinking" citizens showed a sample of demosychoidal propaganda, which can not be called "democratic" language. By the way, many of these Yeltsin apologists today are building up the "conscience of the nation", they are members of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation, they teach us how to live and build a civil society ...

Yeltsin was afraid of the army. Then I was still afraid. And he was not sure that at the decisive moment she would execute the order. Therefore, he: a) first of all decided to rely on internal troops; b) called mercenaries from abroad. These are the second, the most interesting. Do you know the word "Beitar"? Let me explain: “Beitar” (“Joseph Trumpeldor Union”) is the semi-terrorist organization of Zionist, established in 1923 year in Riga (founder Zeev Zhabotinsky). In practice, they are engaged in political terror.

... According to the official version, the first shooting began near Ostankino at about seven o'clock in the evening. In fact, as evidenced by the participants in these events, who were subjected to merciless reprisals by forces loyal to Yeltsin, the first shooting of demonstrators took place in 15.30 near the mayor's office. On the people who had gathered at the rally near the main entrance of the White House, machine-gun fire was opened from the windows of the Luzhkov administration and automatic fire from its porch. Almost immediately after that, at 15.45, machine-gun fire from the windows of the Mir Hotel (the headquarters of the Main Directorate of Internal Affairs and the 20 military unit) was opened at the people who had gathered at 3111-th entrance of the White House. 7 people were killed. Here are those who gave the order to shoot at unarmed people: Commander of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, General Kulikov AS (subsequently the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the deputy of the State Duma) and the head of the Moscow Main Department of Internal Affairs, General V.I. Pankratov.

Do you know what the ratio of Ostankino forces was? From Makashov: 4000 unarmed demonstrators, 18 machine gunners and one rocket launcher (attached to the guard column). Well, plus Makashov himself, too, with a gun.

Question: what can be stormed by such forces? ..

But how was the television station guarded? Eyewitnesses testify: 25 armored personnel carriers with the emblems of the Vityaz unit and from 500 to 700 submachine gunners of the Dzerzhinsky division. Plus full-time security.

Could a military general Makashov give an order to assault people in such a ratio (as the pro-Yeltsin media loudly lied to)?

The fire was squall and cross. Initially, machine guns and assault rifles were beaten from the windows of ASK-1 and ASK-3. Five minutes after the start of the shooting, the Vityaz armored personnel carriers left the area, blocking the escape routes, and began to shoot unarmed people from large-caliber machine guns. They killed everyone. There are witnesses of how the lieutenant "Vityaz" gave the order to shoot the ambulance crew that arrived at close range. Paramedic Shlykov Pavel Alexandrovich, 1972 year of birth was killed. The rest received various injuries.

Now again to the official data. According to him, about 40 people died on the square in front of Ostankino. Recall for comparison, in December 1989 of the year, during the revolution in Romania, the Ceausescu troops in the same way opened fire from the same APCs on the exact same crowd. The number of victims then went off scale for several hundred. Who is here, what, if I may say so, “bullets” fly out of the barrel of an armored troop-carrier? Such a "bullet" any crowd flashing through. So the official figures are very, very deliberately understated.

.... On 5 o'clock in the morning on October 4, Yeltsin issued decree number 1578. According to him, General Kulikov, who had just been appointed commandant of Moscow, was given powers not limited by anything. What does this mean in practice? Guess yourself. In the city, all laws were actually repealed. Internal troops received the right to kill. Kill uncontrollably and indefinitely. And they killed ... They killed, killed, killed ...

By six o'clock in the morning, the remnants of the defenders of parliament took refuge in the White House building.

The snipers began by opening fire on the units that were on Yeltsin’s side. What for? But Yeltsin, as mentioned above, did not trust the warriors. And they decided to stimulate them. Kill a couple of officers and blame everything on the "rebels." The fire was fired from the roofs of houses already occupied by the GUO, and (attention !!!) from the roof of the American embassy! On which, according to different versions, for several hours already stood a helicopter under steam - to save Yeltsin: in case of failure of his plan).

And now I will give the main official data. The number of dead 3-5 October 1993 of the year. Judging by the fact that television is ushering in, they were from 142 to 147 people. Well, let's estimate whether this is true. At about 7.30 in the morning, the first assault on the building begins. The balance of power is as follows: in the White House there are about 10 000 people. They have an 62 machine gun, several grenade launchers and incendiary bottles.

Against the White House exhibited: from the Ministry of Defense: 185 units of armored vehicles, incl. 80 armored personnel carriers, 10 tanks (T-72 and T-80), 60 BMD, 20 BMP, 15 BRDM; from the Ministry of Internal Affairs VV: 61 units of armored vehicles, incl. 26 armored personnel carriers, 25 BMP-2 and 10 special vehicles.

Total, on 4 units of armored vehicles on one machine. And now so well established that pro-government forces in October 4 102 sniper rifles were involved. In addition, at the time of the execution of the parliament around its building, up to 20 000 soldiers of the Ministry of Defense and internal troops were concentrated.

The assault began without any announcement or advance warning. No offers to surrender or withdraw women and children from the building. The fire on the building, with brief stops, was conducted around 10 hours using all types of small weapons, artillery and helicopters. And what is the most mockingly cynical, this wild bloody orgy was broadcast live by many world television channels, including in Russia ...

So what kind of assault can we talk about? Is it even possible to use the word "assault" here? Where appropriate to use the word "massacre", "violence", "massacre" ... The massacre of its own citizens. During this, I may say, "storm" in the parliament building, according to witnesses and a number of independent experts, have been killed and a half thousand people. According to the same sources, up to three hundred people died near Ostankino.

It was something else. Something so shameful and disgusting that it will never be recognized by the current servants of the people. It will not be because in this case no amnesty will save some of them.

I am talking about extrajudicial executions of captured compatriots.

Witnesses of these executions are still alive and can testify. Among them are members of the Supreme Council of S. Baburin, VI Shashiashvili, O. Rumyantsev, S. Umalatova and others; Lieutenant Colonel M.V. Rutskoi (brother of Alexander Rutskoi). And others who then miraculously survived. According to their testimonies, the officers of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the GUO and the Beytar mercenaries bypassed the structure of the prisoners and those who had traces of gunpowder in their hands were taken in an unknown direction. Moreover, several times Beitarovites soon returned and said that people died while trying to escape. The corpses were stored under a humpbacked bridge.

There is a whole bunch of medical reports saying that people were killed at close range, shot in the back of the head.

There is evidence of fighters from the Dzerzhinsky division who have gone over to the side of the Supreme Soviet. There were data about the larger military formations that moved to the aid of parliament ... They are all no more. During the "assault" the attackers received orders to kill people in uniform on the spot. Then, when the funeral of Dzerzhinsk fighters who died "in battles with insurgents" was shown on TV, participants in the defense of the White House identified these officers and soldiers in the coffins who were alive and well at the time of the addition of weapons. Here are the names of some: Major S. Gritsuk, privates O. Petrov and head YV Requests to the competent authorities to clarify the circumstances of their death remained unanswered. ... Then the cleaning of the catacombs under the building began. There are testimonies of people who miraculously escaped from there. According to them, almost everyone who was there was shot on the spot. Part of the dungeons flooded with people. This was done on the orders of the newly appointed commandant of the White House, General Arkady Baskayev. The corpses were stored in a bunker shelter. Later they were carried through the passage to the subway line.

According to an independent investigation, conducted in 94-95 years, direct, directly responsible for the mass murder of prisoners of war are:

- General of the Interior Ministry MVD Romanov (OMON and the consolidated company OMSDON);

- Generals Rushaylo and Pankratov, as well as the ex-mayor of Moscow Luzhkov Yu.M. (divisions of the police department of the internal affairs department of Moscow);

- Generals Korzhakov and Barsukov (the regiment of the presidential guard);

- Colonel SVA Kotenev (supervising the Beytar mercenaries).

The reader can familiarize himself with the result of this investigation in the book Anathema. By Ivan Ivanov. His real name. As far as I know, several people worked under this pseudonym. Read it, people! I have not set forth a tenth part of what is written there.

PS Do you know what really shocked me then? The position of our liberal intelligentsia. The conscience of the nation, so to speak. Some of them then simply radiated joy. Bulat Okudzhava, he altogether said: "I enjoyed this spectacle." After that, the actor Gostiukhin came to him to a concert in Minsk, broke before the eyes of the public, and threw his records into the face of Okudzhava ...
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  1. smel
    smel 25 September 2013 06: 55 New
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    Yeltsin - it was necessary to be tried ... But now it’s not too late.
    1. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 25 September 2013 07: 12 New
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      Quote: smel
      Yeltsin - it was necessary to be tried ... But now it’s not too late.

      It’s ridiculous. The case will fall apart due to the lack of corpus delicti, insufficient evidence, and the judge’s inner conviction)))
      First you need to create a court of investigation and prosecutors instead of scenery.
    2. vlad.svargin
      vlad.svargin 25 September 2013 07: 54 New
      +3
      And now it’s not too late, even if only as a “symbol” of scum-carrots.
    3. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 25 September 2013 08: 09 New
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      Not only Yeltsin’s trial, but also all the generals and colonels listed and not listed in this article who were guilty of reprisal against the people and the Supreme Council of Russia — the highest legislative power at that time.
      All these executioners, along with Yeltsin, are criminals who are subject to trial without the statute of limitations, in view of the commission of war crimes against innocent people and against the highest authority of Russia.
      Well, what about the rotten liberoid intelligentsia, inciting the above-mentioned criminal criminals, calling for reprisals against the “red-brown”, as they cynically called patriotic forces, they too should be awaited by the court - a human court of memory and charity, recorded in history, with perpetuation in it particularly odious surnames, for example, those who signed the "Letter of 42's":
      Ales ADAMOVICH,
      Anatoly ANANIEV,
      Artyom ANFINOGENOV,
      Bella AHMADULINA,
      Grigory BAKLANOV,
      Zory BALAYAN,
      Tatyana BEK,
      Alexander BORSCHAGOVSKY,
      Vasil BYKOV,
      Boris VASILIEV,

      Alexander GELMAN,
      Daniil GRANIN,
      Yuri Davydov,
      Daniil DANIN,
      Andrey DEMENTYEV,
      Michael DUDIN,
      Alexander Ivanov,
      Edmund Iodkovsky,
      Rimma KAZAKOVA,
      Sergey KALEDIN,
      Yuri KARYAKIN, Yakov KOSTYUKOVSKY,
      Tatyana KUZOVLEVA,
      Alexander KUSHNER,
      Yuri LEVITANSKIY,
      Academician D.S. Likhachev,
      Yuri NAGIBIN,
      Andrey NUYKIN,
      Bulat OKUJABA,
      Valentin OSKOTSKY,
      Grigory MARRY
      Anatoly PRISTAVKIN,
      Leo Acceleration,
      Alexander REKEMCHUK,
      Robert CHRISTMAS,
      Vladimir SAVEL'EV,
      Vasily SELYUNIN,
      Yuri CHERNICHENKO,
      Andrey CHERNOV,
      Marietta CHUDAKOV,
      Michael CHULAKI,
      Victor ASTAFIEV,
      with an appeal "Stop talking. It's time to learn how to act. These stupid villains respect only power."
      The text of the letter was published in the Izvestia newspaper on October 5, 1993.
      But these are not all instigators. To this list it is necessary to add a whole series of odious "figures" who should be thoroughly searched in the published media of that period. For example, here is the position of the writer Vasily Aksyonovawhich stated: “These bastards had to be shot. If I were in Moscow, I would also have signed this letter in Izvestia. ”
      1. slacker
        slacker 25 September 2013 11: 29 New
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        Bulat Okudzhava, so he completely said: "I enjoyed this sight." After that, the actor Gostyukhin came to him for a concert in Minsk, broke before the eyes of the public and threw his records in the face of Okudzhava ...


        I did not know about this fact. I am glad that this actor, often courageously looking on the screen, was courageous in life. For the creative intelligentsia, this is the exception rather than the norm.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 25 September 2013 15: 33 New
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        odious surnames, for example, those who signed the "Letter of 42's":

        And there are so many Russians!)))
    4. Col.
      Col. 25 September 2013 10: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: smel
      Yeltsin - it was necessary to be tried ... But now it’s not too late


      Well yes, that's fair. But what about the one he appointed his successor? Can I appoint a decent person after myself? That's what Putin fans should think about.
    5. Airman
      Airman 25 September 2013 10: 34 New
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      Quote: smel
      Yeltsin - it was necessary to be tried ... But now it’s not too late.

      Having condemned EBNatik, one will have to condemn his successor, and who will allow it?
      1. Avenger711
        Avenger711 25 September 2013 15: 59 New
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        On what basis? Yeltsin could have been mistaken, or his conscience was tortured, or, most likely, he was carefully left.
    6. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 25 September 2013 11: 44 New
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      Another Baburinsky lie, as when everything was turned upside down.
      Decree of the President of the RSFSR No. 1400 "On constitutional reform," and not the execution of parliament! And then all around: ".. shooting by the tanks of the parliament, shooting of the parliament .." There was no parliament in the RSFSR! There were a handful of deputies led by Khasbulatov and extremists-Makashovites who decided to seize power for Khaz! Shurik Av Rutsky, a political six with a mustache and a colonel with the general epaulets donated by Yeltsin. They used it and threw it away, and the bloody Yeltsin attached him to the governor of the Kursk province and saved the “carpet” from the court for stealing money from the budget.

      Art. 10 of the "Law on the President of the RSFSR": .. "the president may be removed from office. Such a decision is made by the Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR on the basis of the conclusion of the Constitutional Court of the RSFSR by a two-thirds majority of the total number of deputies of the RSFSR (1100 deputies)"

      Those. for the LEGAL removal of Yeltsin from office, 730 votes of the people's deputies of the RSFSR must be obtained. One conclusion of the Constitutional Court and the decision of a handful of rebels from 180 deputies who have settled in the White House are clearly not enough to recognize LEGAL removal of the Russian president from power. They deliberately acted contrary to the Law and escalated political tensions in the country

      According to the author’s logic, it turns out that there’s nothing to do, in the morning, the president drove 4 tanks and, after firing two shots with steel training blanks at the upper, high floors of the building (not shells equipped with warheads), they shot “Russian parliamentarism” on October 4, 1993 ! Which advance went down to the hall on the 2nd floor.

      And who started the killing of people on the eve of? First, a sniper from the White House near the city hall killed Art. Lieutenant Bozhko, then the marauder robbery of the city hall building, the seizure of alcohol there in restaurants and buffets, a collective mass booze. As well as in the arms of the police department of the city hall, 147 barrels of military weapons and equipment were seized. They tried to storm the Ostankino television center by assault truck, which resulted in the death of 146 people in a random shootout due to the fault of the rebels from the White House. And only in the morning of the next day Boris Nikolaevich ordered tanks to extinguish the fire civil war.

      In October 1993, Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin prevented the situation from reaching the bloody meat grinder that Bashar Assad is fighting with in Syria.

      Boris Nikolayevich may have been allowed to violate the laws, but thanks to them, Russia was saved from "senseless and merciless rebellion", millions of lives and the country itself, its integrity were preserved. Eternal memory to those who were deceived and perished in October 1993! Shame and stigma of Judas to the traitors who pushed people to death.

      Glory to the first president of Russia Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin!
      People's Deputy of the RSFSR, deputy of the Moscow Soviet, State Duma deputy, participant and eyewitness of the tragedy of 1993, Viktor Mironov
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 25 September 2013 15: 38 New
        +5
        Quote: vpimen2010
        Glory to the first president of Russia Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin!

        Blessed is he who believes! Have you forgotten to take pills today? Yeltsin and Co. almost destroyed the country, and you sing praises to them. Not ashamed at that age?
        1. vpimen2010
          vpimen2010 25 September 2013 18: 55 New
          -2
          We forgot, we lie in one room, we take pills together. We forgot, I say you have sclerosis. Get well.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 25 September 2013 19: 39 New
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            Quote: vpimen2010
            We forgot, we are lying in the same room, and we are taking pills together.

            No, the chambers we have are different. Yes, and pills too. I am rooting for the Motherland, but who are you for? Judging by your views, your historical homeland is not here, but somewhere in the Middle East.
            1. vpimen2010
              vpimen2010 25 September 2013 19: 53 New
              -4
              Again sister nonsense pills forgot to give you?
    7. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 25 September 2013 15: 37 New
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      Quote: smel
      Yeltsin - it was necessary to be tried ... But now it’s not too late.


      I don’t. Corpse exhume chtoli? Now that is impolite. Now, in general, it is necessary to correct what the EBN has worked out.

      In my opinion, this entire article is nothing more than an advertisement for a book about bloody gebnya. I will surely read it when the pirated copy comes out on the pirate library, if it comes out of course.
  2. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 25 September 2013 06: 58 New
    +7
    Is that why losers did not prepare? Where were the loyal troops, reliable people with weapons, in the media? It is clear that the Yeltsinists will stand to death, because they already sensed that the feast would soon begin (tearing Russia apart) and they would never back down, these fucking scavengers. My questions are only to the other side. An idealist must be with his wife, and not with these.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 25 September 2013 16: 48 New
      +2
      The losers were from the same group as the winners - after the “prison”, Rutskoi drank with Yeltsin in Bolshevo and became the governor. They just played with people - in the Armed Forces “revolution”, the Chekists led and merged everything successfully.
  3. Kiliny
    Kiliny 25 September 2013 07: 03 New
    +8
    With the advent of time, removing noodles from the ears, you even perceive the GKChP in a different way.
  4. My address
    My address 25 September 2013 07: 09 New
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    My relatives tell about EBN that he loved only power. And did not like responsibility. He substituted many in Eburg for himself only because of the suspicion that he would have to answer.
    And to our misfortune, I came to power. The enemy of the country. Vilest person.
    1. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 25 September 2013 13: 41 New
      -6
      Every nation is worthy of its chosen authority! Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, worthy of his chosen people!
  5. treskoed
    treskoed 25 September 2013 07: 14 New
    -5
    Fight of clans, groups, no more. As everywhere and always!
  6. domokl
    domokl 25 September 2013 07: 16 New
    +6
    At the age of 91, I was among those who defended the EBN in the White House. I was not alone, with my people. Without weapons, without special means. Understanding that most of us will not leave alive, but those who remain will avenge the dead. Officers with military experience and able to stand up for themselves, went unarmed against police forces.
    Nothing happened. Lucky. In the 93rd, none of us rose to defend the White House. Disassembly began among the jackals for a piece of cake (the Motherland, which was torn to pieces).
    Much of what is written in the article is true. In particular, the death toll clearly did not correspond to official reports. The events are carefully hushed up, carefully avoided. And they need to be investigated. It is necessary to find those who not only gave orders, but also shot unarmed. must triumph sometime.
    1. Airman
      Airman 25 September 2013 10: 42 New
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      At the age of 91, I was among those who defended the EBN in the White House. I was not alone, with my people. Without weapons, without special means. Understanding that most of us will not leave alive, but those who remain will avenge the dead. Officers with military experience and able to stand up for themselves, went unarmed against police forces.
      Nothing happened. Lucky. In the 93rd, none of us rose to defend the White House. Disassembly began among the jackals for a piece of cake (the Motherland, which was torn to pieces).
      Much of what is written in the article is true. In particular, the death toll clearly did not correspond to official reports. The events are carefully hushed up, carefully avoided. And they need to be investigated. It is necessary to find those who not only gave orders, but also shot unarmed. must triumph sometime.

      Domocles, was it really incomprehensible in 91 that EBN is a clown! As he said that they threw him drunk from a bridge into a small river about half a meter deep.
    2. Orik
      Orik 25 September 2013 15: 05 New
      +6
      At 91, I was among those who defended the EBN in the White House.


      It turns out that when you took the oath of allegiance to the USSR, you defended the traitor and destroyer of the state. Until now, they did not understand that in 1991 the clans also fought. Stagnantly communist versus liberal-consumer, the putsch itself was staged with the aim of messing up the patriotic part of the party and isolating it from power, although both clans are unattractive. It seems that you didn’t draw any conclusions from history, now you actively support the current government by constantly justifying the actions of the guarantor on the pages of the site, which was introduced to the political Olympus by the Jews Sobchak and Eltsin, a native of the KGB’s foreign intelligence, whose leadership worked hand in hand with the liberals to destroy socialist system. We have to learn to think, there is nothing to do in politics from “urya”, otherwise one can get another cruel disappointment.
      1. vpimen2010
        vpimen2010 25 September 2013 15: 57 New
        -8
        The country and the oath of allegiance to it, the leader betrayed, the General Secretary of the Communist Party, the Central Committee of the CPS and the remaining 20 million Communists, the millions of Young Communist League members and the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions, what remained to be done by the officers alone?
        And what else did Yeltsin have to do when Gorbachev destroyed the country into 15 separate states, demoralized the army, each factory cooperated into 150 independent cooperatives, when all 2500 tons of gold were taken out of the State Bank of the USSR to the United States, when it was empty in the treasury, when hunger strikes and strikes began when officers unloaded wagons at night, and miners stormed Moscow.
        When for 8 months pensions and salaries were not paid. Because there is nothing, there is no money in the country inherited by Yeltsin.
        When did the Cold War winner bring Colt to the temple of an occupied country and its power?
        I swam in a hot frying pan, drank vodka in glasses, like an anesthetic for body and soul, drank, promised to lie under the rails, did everything, But RUSSIA saved it.
        And this is the main thing. And in the life of everyone, the main thing to do. Boris Nikolaevich-did! In those years, he was actually in a position like Bashar al-Assad in Syria now, but in October 1993, Boris Nikolaevich had the courage and wisdom to suppress the wick of the civil war in Russia. into the ruins of Homs, Aleppo, the outskirts of Damascus, or inject several blanks from tanks around the building where the rebels, led by Kerensky-Rutsky, Makashovs, Khasbulatovs and people deceived by them?) And, thanks to B.N. Yeltsin, we all live now in peace and integrity of countries e.
        Partiots! Really and you don’t understand!
        Unfortunately, for most, even on this reputable site, .. ".. a lot is seen in the distance .."
        Only now, Boris Nikolayevich’s stooge, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, timidly, but began, relying on patriots, such people as Nikolai Starikov and Yevgeny Fedorov, to resist the invader.
        You are right, you have to learn to think, but with the Makashovs and Avrutskys, with their bloody “hurry” on the corpses to power, there is nothing to do in politics, sheer grief and disappointment as in 1993.
        Here we still need to think very hard about who specifically in the White House the CIA experts recruited in order to foment a civil war and permanently destroy Russia that they hate.
        Look for someone who benefits, but only who benefits from the United States and its agents in the Supreme Council, those who started killing policemen in the municipality, those who sent deceived people to storm Ostankino.!
        Smart and rooting patriots, such as Boris Yeltsin and Vladimir Putin, win!
  7. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 25 September 2013 07: 25 New
    +2
    corrupt political scientists, other “free-thinking” citizens demonstrated a sample of demoshizoid propagandaplus the current liberogeyropovtsy bought media and our time in full view, yeah ...
  8. albai
    albai 25 September 2013 07: 32 New
    +4
    What country was torn apart! Probably under the yoke of the victims of the innocent victims and Yeltsin drank without a hitch.
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 25 September 2013 07: 37 New
      +2
      He drank and "before" ... Do you think his conscience tormented him? I doubt very much that such people have IT!
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 25 September 2013 07: 54 New
        +9
        The apogee of Yeltsin's drunkenness, when he made the prime minister of Ireland wait at the ramp and never came out. What embarrassment and what a blow to the image of Russia in the whole world! Who will respect the country whose head is a moronic alcoholic!
        1. vpimen2010
          vpimen2010 25 September 2013 13: 44 New
          +2
          Europe can wait for the emperor of Russia to fish! (Alexander the third)
          1. xetai9977
            xetai9977 25 September 2013 13: 47 New
            +4
            Yeltsin is NOT Alexander the Third!
            1. vpimen2010
              vpimen2010 25 September 2013 16: 14 New
              0
              But the president of Russia, tolerate tea is no match for the head of my country!
        2. nov_tech.vrn
          nov_tech.vrn 25 September 2013 15: 24 New
          +2
          Before the election, when Yeltsman was elected for the presidency, I asked well-informed acquaintances in Sverdlovsk who they were, the answer was “a former local tsar, an alcoholic and a boor”.
    2. My address
      My address 25 September 2013 07: 46 New
      +8
      He drank his entire adult life. For example, I saw how, in 80's, his first secretary of the regional committee, the guard carried. And not under the burden of dead saws or those who framed in zeal for power. This tragedy of the country began when such people as the sober Judas Gorbachev and the drunk Judas Yeltsin were allowed into the CPSU top.
      1. vpimen2010
        vpimen2010 25 September 2013 13: 46 New
        0
        A saw soldered by Judas from the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, the whole country, and not Yeltsin for all. They all drank, the whole country, and they drank it, la!
    3. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 25 September 2013 13: 37 New
      0
      But these are questions for the Secretary General of the Communist Party, the President of the USSR-Gorbachev, and not Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin. Two years ago, N. Starikov filed an application with the Russian Prosecutor General’s Office about bringing Gorbachev to criminal responsibility for the collapse of the country. Gorbachev, not Yeltsin. Go to the website of Starikov.
      "Under the oppression of the victims" sent to slaughter and storm Ostankino, Rutskoi, Makash and Khasbulatov flourish. Not Yeltsin ordered the assassins to storm the city hall and television center.
      Each power is worth something only when it can defend its power (Blank-Udyanov-Lenin). Yeltsin defended the fact that he was entrusted by voters-Power and peace in the country and its integrity, from armed rioters. He did not allow Libyan or Syrian options for the development of events and the destruction of the country.
  9. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 25 September 2013 07: 33 New
    +7
    Lord How many internal enemies and traitors in the country who spit upon the country think only of their own benefit, and even worse are SOLD to the enemies of Russia. When will a man come to power, a true patriot of Russia, and will he come? All the "approaches" to power are "mined" for honest people. Right Vysotsky from one song said:
    Truth will ever triumph
    If he does the same thing as a FALSE lie ...
    1. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 25 September 2013 16: 16 New
      0
      “Strength, brother, in truth” (film “Brother”), but Putin does not lie.
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  11. Alex66
    Alex66 25 September 2013 07: 37 New
    +4
    We teach other states how to live, talking about their double standards, but we have set double standards for our citizens, when one is not 37 years old, and the other is house arrest or they go as witnesses. We still do not give an objective assessment to our presidents (I do not ask them to land). They only promise us endlessly and do not fulfill their promises.
  12. predator.3
    predator.3 25 September 2013 07: 38 New
    +3
    By the way, many of these Yeltsin’s apologists today are building the “conscience of the nation”, are members of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation, teach us how to live and build a civil society ...


    Yes, all, the so-called "elite" and the ruling elite came out of the Yeltsin environment!
  13. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 25 September 2013 07: 42 New
    +3
    I always say, until all those involved in these and not only these crimes are officially convicted, I will not believe the authorities. Having done it, he will do it again.
    1. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 25 September 2013 15: 22 New
      -3
      Boris Nikolaevich pardoned them out of his kindness, but in vain. The betrayer of times will betray more than once. So Boburin is lying again.
      1. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 25 September 2013 15: 27 New
        0
        do you sing from other people's words, or did you shoot yourself there?
        1. vpimen2010
          vpimen2010 25 September 2013 18: 43 New
          -4
          No, they shot me from the White House, 28 times, they were drunk, they didn’t hit.
          28 holes in the glass from the bullets in the office number 2010, the building of the city hall, where I got this drunk from shuganul. Then the bullets were picked from the walls, stored. Thank God, I didn’t have to shoot, they only had one look of my Kalash, got rid of them and went off to rob the Ostankino television center. We hoped that there unarmed girls the announcers were waiting for them ....
  14. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 25 September 2013 07: 42 New
    +8
    I did not know about Gostyukhin, I respected even more; there are Actors in Russia, not bedding.
  15. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 25 September 2013 07: 50 New
    -9
    G-d and this is a politician? Beitar is a scouting movement. The maximum age of its members is 17 years. Well, at least about Mossad I would have blurted out that if you need to crap the Jews, but why the raving about the “Beitar”? And then why Beitar? We could also mention their competitors in the scouting movement “haShomer haTsair” (Young Sentinel), Yitzhak Rabin and Moshe Dayan were brought up in this organization. So Mr. Baburin did not even look at Wikipedia because of laziness of thought.
    1. Dober
      Dober 25 September 2013 09: 46 New
      +7
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Beitar is a scouting movement.

      Nu-nu ... Such Octobryats are good guys ...
      Let them remember both young and old, How Beitar acted in Moscow
      “Beitar” was especially distinguished during the 1993 coup, distinguished itself so that the villainy of the organization was heard only at a closed meeting of the State Duma.
      One of Beitar’s “exploits” in October 1993 was an attack on the premises of the editorial office of the Russky Vestnik newspaper, a newspaper with a clearly nationalistic RUSSIAN orientation, after which the editorial office moved to a more secure place, but a home-made device was blown up later. Classical Zhiudi handwriting ...

      From the Beitar charter: the organization "constantly and everywhere works to bring Jewish youth closer to the ideals of the national religion, to their people and their country."
      At the same time, the organization’s emblem is the clenched fist of the right hand against the background of the menorah, a very “peaceful” emblem that brings Jewish youth “closer to the ideals of the national religion” in accordance with Jewish aphorisms:
      “Canaan is too small for the children of God. The land of Israel will stretch through all countries ”;
      “The enemy must be forgiven after he is hanged.”
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 25 September 2013 09: 57 New
        -2
        Quote: Dober
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Beitar is a scouting movement.

        Nu-nu ... Such Octobryats are good guys ...
        why on earth would they be “good guys”? This scout movement educates Jewish teenagers in the spirit of right-wing Zionism. To the internal Russian showdown, the beitarists simply spit on.
        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бейтар
        1. Dober
          Dober 25 September 2013 10: 36 New
          +4
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          why on earth would they be “good guys”? This scouting movement educates Jewish teenagers in the spirit of the right Zionism

          Zionism ???
          Well then, get together "on the land of Zion" ... Why open branches around the world, and especially in Russia and Ukraine. Open training of the "fifth column" in the CIS countries. Training camps in the CIS countries. Of course, not the “good October”, but already a seasoned “Komsomol”, dragged like puppies on cats, on everything that supposedly “interferes with world Zionism”. Training at the cubs consciousness level. Which neatly fits into the slogan given above - /“Canaan is too small for the children of God. The land of Israel stretches across all countries. "; / Here are the "territorial claims" ... And to the whole world ...

          http://betar.org.ua/molod/
          http://fota.mota.ru/users/beitar/ http://fota.mota.ru/albums/525d0edf5de91ee94f4bd8cd98ef7c45/

          A separate question for rasovedov - what is indicated on the pictures, this is about half of the Moscow metro. Does this mean that Moscow is the Jewish capital, and if so, then a genetic catastrophe has occurred in Russia (at least in the capital)?
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          To the internal Russian showdown, the beitarists simply spit on.

          This is when the Jews were "spit"? Yes, so burnt ...

          Conclusion: If you don’t “drown”, in advance, then send (solemnly see off) to Zion.
          Or Neh. to call "foshists" those who spend the summer in camps with patriotic ideology, with physical training. At monasteries, or just in forest glades under the slogans of "Rodnoverie" ...
          1


          But this one is colorful ... Well, purely a pioneertimurovetsgaydarovets ...
          2
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 25 September 2013 11: 05 New
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            Quote: Dober

            Well then, get together "on the land of Zion" ... Why open branches around the world, and especially in Russia and Ukraine.

            Taki going. And don’t be so afraid of you. Look at the results of the last census of the Russian Federation. In Russia, there were either old people or people close to the feeding trough. Among the Jewish population of the Russian Federation, young people under 18 years old have 3 people per 100. The average age of Jews in the Russian Federation is 58 years. This ethnic group in the Russian Federation will almost die out within 20 years. Well, of course, you can find out% of blood in children and grandchildren from mixed marriages, but these are your problems.
            This is when the Jews were "spit"? Yes, so burnt ...

            Do not be rude!
      2. vpimen2010
        vpimen2010 25 September 2013 16: 20 New
        +3
        That is why TV and radio host Vladimir Solovyov hates and harasses the Cossacks. The ikhonny beitar of the Russian Cossack is afraid! And rightly afraid!
    2. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 25 September 2013 15: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: This is the case with the organization called Beitar. Yes, there is a veil of secrecy, and even a heavy-duty one, and, probably, we will soon find out where not only the “pogroms” of this association of young rioters with six-pointed stars on airborne camouflage - but not domestic tailoring - uniforms (that’s how I saw Beitarians who smashed the editorial offices of patriotic newspapers on the "shooting days" of October 93rd), but who exactly gives the milk to the boys, which, say, transnational banks finance them ...

      This youth-Zionist iceberg has a large "underwater" part. But there is a “surface”, although it is in thick fog, however, in bloody fog. And yet you can see it and tell readers about it ...

      I wrote about “Beitar” in my essay “Bloody“ cultural enlightenment ”, but it turned out that the number of Al-Kods where it was printed (No. 24, 1994) did not reach all readers of the newspaper, it was for a long time closed. Over the past year or more, some new information has become available to me, the old has been updated, and, in addition, all the possible gerberas, Nuikins, and other “fighters against Russian fascism” have managed to bark and grunt their old lies a hundredfold: they say no and there can be no “Beitar” in nature, all these are fictions of the Reds, anti-Semites and other Black Hundreds.
  16. individual
    individual 25 September 2013 07: 58 New
    +3
    In history, the parliament has not yet been put to an end.
    This is the story of a great betrayal of the USSR and these traitors are still at all levels of power ready to betray the interests of Russia.
    We need to conduct a large investigation of the crime of the century, but who will allow us?
    1. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 25 September 2013 20: 45 New
      0
      When and who shot the parliament of the USSR? Do you somehow restore order in your head, and then proceed to the investigation.
  17. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 25 September 2013 08: 02 New
    +3
    Even during the Soviet era in Sverdlovsk (Yekaterinburg), on the orders of Yeltsin, Ipatiev’s House was demolished in one night and rolled into asphalt, and even during his “reign”, according to his instructions, “rushed” with the Romanov’s bones, and he shed “crocodile tears” on innocent victims. This is even worse than Pharisaism — a pure abomination.
  18. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 25 September 2013 08: 41 New
    +2
    Well, now what kind of team is sitting in the government? what is the conclusion from this?
    1. screw cutter
      screw cutter 25 September 2013 11: 40 New
      0
      But do you propose a coup d'etat? And what team will you put in? And again repressions? It was already like this in the late 30s, but I’m afraid it doesn’t work out any other way. And yet I hope that the GDP is slowly, but pushing, towards conservation country.
  19. Heccrbq .2
    Heccrbq .2 25 September 2013 09: 16 New
    +1
    The book is called Anathema: The Story of a coup. Written by Marat Musin, a professor at Moscow State University, he himself took part in the White House defense. The book is certainly shocking and explains a lot.
    1. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 25 September 2013 16: 39 New
      -3
      Lying. A lie rigged by a professor. Let him sue me. The book doesn’t explain anything!
      She explained why, during the year, the Supreme Council and Congress introduced 250 amendments to the Constitution aimed at strengthening the power of the Haz and the VerkhovSovet under its control? She explains why the people in the referendum on April 24, 1993, trusted and supported Yeltsin, and not the Supreme Council? She explained why all the attempts of the president and patriarch to find a peaceful way out of the conflict were not supported by the leadership of the rebellion? She explains why at 13, damn, the day they spilled the first blood, killed by a sniper from the White House, senior lieutenant Bozhko?
      Musin is one of the participants in the seizure of the city hall, he was in the team of Avrutsky and Makashov, the blood of those killed at and around Ostankino. The book is an attempt to wash away the blood of the dead.
      P.S. His reports from Syria deserve respect, but it's a different song.
  20. erased
    erased 25 September 2013 10: 42 New
    +4
    But Yeltsin’s protege Putin is now in power. Draw conclusions ...
  21. Nike
    Nike 25 September 2013 11: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: erased
    But Yeltsin’s protege Putin is now in power. Draw conclusions ...
    ... and the officer who violated the oath ...
    1. screw cutter
      screw cutter 25 September 2013 11: 43 New
      +2
      Let me ask (well, so as not unfounded). In what place?
    2. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 25 September 2013 19: 58 New
      -1
      Every time I vote for Vladimir Putin, I vote for the choice made by Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin. The first president of Russia has never lost to anyone. He drank, drank, but did not lose to anyone!
  22. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 25 September 2013 11: 42 New
    +2
    Something like this ...
  23. Alexan
    Alexan 25 September 2013 11: 58 New
    +2
    Finally, surnames appear, directly named by the villains.
    We are waiting for the names of the traitors who framed the guys in Chechnya.
  24. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 25 September 2013 12: 19 New
    0
    - It was obvious: Yeltsin did not need civil peace. Just not needed. For one simple reason: he wanted power. Absolute power.
    And EBN apparently received this absolute (or almost absolute) power, in any case, according to Rutskoi (from the 42nd minute) -

    As a result, almost unlimited presidential powers were enshrined in the Constitution.

    And if all of the above is true, then the question arises - where did these almost unlimited presidential powers go with the departure of EBNya?
    The answer in my opinion is obvious - nowhere, they have the current president.

    Quote: smel
    Yeltsin - it was necessary to be tried ... But now it’s not too late.

    Quote: vlad.svargin
    And now it’s not too late, even if only as a “symbol” of scum-carrots.

    Quote: screw cutter
    And yet I hope that GDP is slowly, but it is pushing in the direction of preserving the country.


    Part 1 of Article 19 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation: "All are equal before the law and the court"
    1. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 25 September 2013 20: 55 New
      0
      Here the State Duma and clarified the Constitution. Federal law, not fraud. There are objections, do not like it? run to grandfather Zyu-Zyu and write a statement to the Constitutional Court. Here we find out whether they are equal or not. What are you like a thimble at the station la-la-la-la. What language to scratch the keys, do the job.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 25 September 2013 21: 21 New
        0
        Quote: vpimen2010
        Here is the State Duma and clarified the Constitution
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 25 September 2013 21: 51 New
          0
          Quote: vpimen2010
          run to grandfather Zyu-Zyu and write a statement to the Constitutional Court
        2. vpimen2010
          vpimen2010 25 September 2013 23: 01 New
          +1
          YOU read what I wrote to you, not la-la-la, but write and bring a statement to the Constitutional Court if you do not agree with the law. And once again for the thimbles, it means they agree with the law, but continue with the language of the keys, and dust ...
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 26 September 2013 13: 25 New
            0
            Quote: vpimen2010
            and write and bring a statement to the Constitutional Court

            Yes you are a genius
  25. vpimen2010
    vpimen2010 25 September 2013 13: 15 New
    -3
    Quote: vpimen2010
    Another Baburinsky lie, as always, everything is upside down.
    Decree of the President of the RSFSR No. 1400 "On constitutional reform," and not the execution of parliament! And then all around: ".. shooting by the tanks of the parliament, shooting of the parliament .." There was no parliament in the RSFSR! There were a handful of deputies led by Khasbulatov and extremists-Makashovites who decided to seize power for Khaz! Shurik Av Rutsky, a political six with a mustache and a colonel with the general's epaulets presented to him, Yeltsin. They used him and threw him away, and the "bloody" Yeltsin added the governor of the Kursk province and saved the "carpet" from the court for stealing money from the budget.

    Art. 10 of the "Law on the President of the RSFSR": .. "the president may be removed from office. Such a decision is made by the Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR on the basis of the conclusion of the Constitutional Court of the RSFSR by a two-thirds majority of the total number of deputies of the RSFSR (1100 deputies)"

    Those. for the LEGAL removal of Yeltsin from office, 730 votes of the people's deputies of the RSFSR must be obtained. One conclusion of the Constitutional Court and the decision of a handful of rebels from 180 deputies who have settled in the White House are clearly not enough to recognize LEGAL removal of the Russian president from power. They deliberately acted contrary to the Law and escalated political tensions in the country.
    Why does the author not talk about the results of the referendum on April 24, 1993, at which the people of Russia fully supported the policy of Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, relying on the support of voters, Yeltsin stopped the attempt to unleash a civil war and ruin Russia. Why not a single historian speaks about the possible influence of agents - The instigators from the CIA who are most interested in dismembering Russia? Which of the instigators, deputies of the bloody massacre, did these CIA agents lead in the White House?

    According to the author’s logic, it turns out that there’s nothing to do, in the morning, the president drove 4 tanks and, after firing two shots with steel training blanks at the upper, high floors of the building (not shells equipped with warheads), they shot “Russian parliamentarism” on October 4, 1993 ! Which had already descended to the hall on the 2nd floor in advance.

    And who started the killing of people on the eve of? First, a sniper from the White House near the city hall killed Art. Lieutenant Bozhko, then the looting of the city hall building, the seizure of alcohol there in restaurants and buffets, a collective mass booze. 147 barrels of military weapons and equipment were seized in the mayor’s weapons department, and then, on the orders of Av Rutskoi, fighters warmed up by a viskar under a grenade launcher and ram ram They attempted to storm the Ostankino television center by assault truck, which resulted in the death of 146 people in a random shootout due to the fault of Rutskoi and Makashov and the rebels from the White House led by them. And only the next morning, Boris Nikolaev ordered tanks to extinguish the wick of the Civil War.

    In October 1993, Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin prevented the situation from reaching the bloody meat grinder that Bashar Assad is fighting with in Syria.

    Boris Nikolayevich may have been allowed to violate the laws, but thanks to them, Russia was saved from "senseless and merciless rebellion", millions of lives and the country itself, its integrity were preserved. Eternal memory to those who were deceived and perished in October 1993! Shame and stigma of Judas to the traitors who pushed people to death.

    Glory to the first president of Russia Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin!

    People's Deputy of the RSFSR, deputy of the Moscow City Council, State Duma deputy, participant and eyewitness of the tragedy of 1993, Viktor Mironov
    1. Watson J.
      Watson J. 25 September 2013 17: 22 New
      +1
      Are you sculpting this ram for us in our ears? This is not a kindergarten. And not a transmission for insane Wabhabites. You yourself re-read your nonsense to begin with. There is no point in refuting even your nonsense.
      Quote: vpimen2010
      Smart and rooting patriots, such as Boris Yeltsin and Vladimir Putin, win!

      I’ll only agree with this if you tear it out of the text and consider it as satire.
      1. vpimen2010
        vpimen2010 25 September 2013 20: 21 New
        +1
        Dear,
        1. Do not look so often in the mirror and you will not see "ragweed" on your ears;
        2. The last sentence of my post explicitly says that he wrote "a direct and direct participant and an eyewitness to the tragedy of 1993." I wrote what I saw and personally heard. I do not like it, read the tales of Baburin and Musin’s anathema. Everything is simple, the choice is By you. I’ll only say that my office at the city hall was the only one that these looters were about to rob ... He warned that I had three horns and an AK.
        And the only cabinet in which the doors were not knocked out. The only one. No. 2010. All the rest were looted on all 24 floors of the building.
        The surname and name are indicated, Baburin remembers, go to court, let your ears get rid of the "ram" stuck on them.
        3. So I say, power is in Truth!
        1. Watson J.
          Watson J. 25 September 2013 21: 03 New
          -1
          The obvious truth is that after the criminal execution of the legally elected parliament of Russia, your idol was untied, and the era of EBoNatic ​​plunder of Russia began. I don’t believe in everything that Baburin says, but your posts about the great drunk savior inspire a feeling of tough bias by the author (who is trying to prove that soft is better than hard), or maybe this is the consequence of shell shock with a bottle of drunks who captured the White House? Respect yourself and others, do not carry nonsense. Have you been kicked out of the city hall with Meadow at the same time? Resentment for the loss of a satisfying place of peace does not give? Both at a post, and at the machine, what a respected person was.
          1. vpimen2010
            vpimen2010 25 September 2013 23: 27 New
            -1
            I have a Homeland-Russia, it has a history and in this story there is my Cossack family and the first president of my country, Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin. I am a patriot of my homeland, proud of its history, the history of my ancestors and respect the first president of my country.
            And I am outraged by the uneducated vulgarity and obscenity allowed in relation to the history of my country and its president. In my head there are only bottles, envy and a dream about a warm place and a satisfying position, and not a word, no thought, not a hint of Honor, on!
            Or is it all without sin? The solid teetotalers and blasphemers of President Boris Yeltsin, like cheap bazaars, are on! .. with a ram on their ears and straw instead of brains ..
            P.S. An assault rifle, not an assault rifle, but an ancestral, patrimonial Cossack saber is always at hand and, if not mine, then sons.
            1. Watson J.
              Watson J. 26 September 2013 01: 34 New
              -1
              You, in your high-flowned pathos, will not get a heart attack, please. Sober up, calm down, and try to re-read all that rubbish that you scribbled today. You blew overeat, comrade. Your “patriot of Russia” in one fell swoop gave “independence” to the vast Russian territories, betraying millions of Russians, including Cossacks (including your humble servant). He betrayed the history of Russia, betrayed the memory of the Russians who created the powerful state. My dear, the patriot is not the one who sticks out his origin and shouts loudly about his patriotism (judging by your own comments - with a gun in his hands in the office of the Luzhkov City Hall, which in itself is suggestive), but the one who does not give the country to steal and does not steal himself. I feel sorry for you. Your idol is allocated a place in the garbage can of the history of Russia.
        2. Realist58
          Realist58 26 September 2013 18: 27 New
          0
          It is very interesting, where did you get the machine gun and three horns of ammunition? Found by chance and did not have time to turn in to the police ???
  26. Bosk
    Bosk 25 September 2013 20: 03 New
    +1
    The thing that hurt most of all was the fact that the “assault” was shown live ... it painfully reminded me of an act of intimidation.
    1. vpimen2010
      vpimen2010 25 September 2013 23: 29 New
      0
      Did the BBC broadcast frighten you?
      1. Bosk
        Bosk 26 September 2013 08: 24 New
        0
        I don’t remember who broadcast it, but somehow it was a warning to those "who are not with us" ...
  27. vpimen2010
    vpimen2010 26 September 2013 07: 00 New
    -1
    It seems that there are only graduates of the Lviv Higher Command and Political University named after L.I. Brezhnev on the site, every third, at least.
    Why, you are talking about combat swimmers, but the answer is about the “moon tractor”! All your fellow political workers have retrained and earn some money as a traffic cop, as a house manager, you are unlucky mine.
    The first three sentences of your post, as in the card game in "Fool", I will return to you. One six for shoulder straps, and the third for the crown.
    This is your “patriot” - Secretary General Gorbachev ruined and betrayed the army, the Warsaw Pact, the USSR and the history of Russia.
    Well, how are you baburin lying through the word? Moscow City Hall, not Luzhkov. And this is for you and the communists that destroyed Russia to live in the trash of history. I think from there you spit saliva on my country, an arrogant and lascivious pathos. .
    P.S. Further communication with you, possible, I do not think. Because of your hopeless ..... and!
  28. Watson J.
    Watson J. 26 September 2013 14: 20 New
    0
    The wonderful effect of pickle? It has long been possible to understand that one should not show one’s limitations here, I immediately asked you. Usually I do not bother to communicate with individuals like you, but today I will make exceptions and try to intelligibly arrange for you to break your heresy on the shelves.
    Quote: vpimen2010
    It seems that there are only graduates of the Lviv Higher Command and Political University named after L.I. Brezhnev on the site, every third, at least.

    Here you state that every third commentator on the site is “hopeless ...”, and ALL graduates of the Lviv Higher Command and Political University named after L. I. Brezhnev are the same. I express gratitude on behalf of those and others.
    Quote: vpimen2010
    All your fellow political workers have retrained and earn some money as a traffic cop, as a house manager, you are unlucky mine.

    From this post, we definitely need to conclude that ALL traffic cops and house managers are Failures!
    Could continue the list of “unsuccessful” professions, and some may be mistaken.
    So far, for the traffic cops with the managerial houses - thanks.
    Quote: vpimen2010
    The first three sentences of your post, as in the card game in "Fool", I will return to you. One six for shoulder straps, and the third for the crown.

    Here, as I understand it, you simply decided to show off your intellect and prove that your analytical abilities are much wider than those that are needed to pull a rope or flaunt a machine gun in front of unarmed drunks.
    Quote: vpimen2010
    This is your “patriot” - Secretary General Gorbachev ruined and betrayed the army, the Warsaw Pact, the USSR and the history of Russia.

    Here, well, just a blatant lie. Firstly, the Secretary General is not mine, but yours completely, since he and EBN are cards of the same deck (you play a fool, it should come). One Judah began the process, the second picked up the baton. Without at all diminishing the “merits” of the first and last prezik of the USSR, it was the first prezik of Russia that legally issued the collapse of the powers, violating all conceivable and unimaginable legal norms and wiping the results of an all-union referendum for preserving the USSR. Or is it news for you that from a meeting in Belovezhskaya Pushcha all three had to be sent immediately to Lefortovo? Although no, strictly according to the law - in Lefortovo back in August of the 91st.
    My personal opinion about August: I think that now all honest military men should regret that they did not support the so-called “coup” (and, in fact, simply loyal to the idea of ​​people whom the Secretary General simply framed and neutralized), which included almost everything the country's leadership, excluding preziki - werewolves. Pretty “coup,” I tell you.
    Quote: vpimen2010
    Well, how are you baburin lying through a word?

    Can you quote where I'm lying?
    Quote: vpimen2010
    Moscow City Hall, not Luzhkov.

    This you tell in kindergarten, or your elderly relatives.
    1. Watson J.
      Watson J. 26 September 2013 14: 22 New
      -1
      Quote: vpimen2010
      And this is for you and the Communists that destroyed Russia to live in the garbage of history.!

      Well, I just want to resurrect Joseph Vissarionovich and give him a read.
      And if humanly, then with this maxim you insulted tens of millions of living and fallen compatriots. People believed, people built, people died for their homeland. The maestro of the game of fool came and determined everyone - it turns out they destroyed Russia and they live in a garbage dump. THANKS dear on behalf of everyone. Once again I will repeat for the gifted: Before you write, think what you write.
      Quote: vpimen2010
      I think from there you spit on my country, arrogant and lascivious paphosnik. Forgive me, God, the patchwork of Russian history.

      А lasciviousness - what does it have to do with it, what side? I somehow do not catch the flight of your fantasies. Just ran out of vocabulary? Well, thank God…
  29. hjhmbk
    hjhmbk 16 February 2014 21: 48 New
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    I read the comments and couldn’t help it! You still don’t understand what you are wearing, the victims of the Andropov matrix and the fifth KGB department, but this is half the trouble, but who gave the right to shoot prisoners without trial. Only the Nazis did this during the fighting in the occupied territory, and this is not justified by any orders, decrees, or a majority of votes. Especially since it’s an honor to speak if the Russian military opposes their own people at the behest and with the support of foreign special services, call a spade a spade: YOU JUST MERCENARIES, gentlemen of luck :))))) NORMAL PEOPLE SHOULD BE ashamed to be, BUT YOU HAVE LONG YEARS INSTEAD OF A SHAME BOLT GROWN. Keep quiet! Attention!