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“Such a meaningless“ movie ”. The actress spoke about how the generals can help shoot patriotic popular movies

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“Such a meaningless“ movie ”. The actress spoke about how the generals can help shoot patriotic popular movies

“All 90s have had a stable“ exposure ”course stories Russia, detracting from the merits of its heroes, and I don’t know how the directors formed at that time would be reconfigured, ”said actress, State Duma deputy Elena Drapeko in an interview with the VIEW newspaper. So she commented on the initiative of the Ministry of Defense to create a fund to support patriotic cinema.


By the end of the year, with the support of the Ministry of Defense, a film company will appear in Russia, which will create films of patriotic content, Army General Sergei Shoigu said at the meeting of the Public Council at the Ministry of Defense earlier this week.

“This year we will create a film company that will make documentary, animated and feature films. The main task is to return to the origins of our history and patriotic education ”, the newspaper VIEW quoted Shoigu. Also, according to Sergey Shoigu, collections of patriotic songs will be regularly published. As the Minister of Defense noted, the first such disc is ready.

In addition, on Friday evening it became known that the Russian “Oscar” commission decided to nominate a new military drama “Stalingrad” by Fyodor Bondarchuk for the American Oscar film award. Its premiere is scheduled for October 10. Judging by the plot, the tape can also be classified as a patriotic movie. The decision of the commission has already been supported by the Minister of Culture Vladimir Medinsky. Earlier, another patriotic Bondarchuk picture, Ninth Company, claimed the Oscar, which, by the way, enjoyed great success in the Russian box office.

The honored artist of the RSFSR, State Duma deputy Elena Drapeko (Fair Russia) told how to shoot at the same time patriotic and popular cinema with a wide audience.

Elena Drapeko (photo: ITAR-TASS)

VIEW: Elena G., how do you assess the initiative of the Ministry of Defense to create a separate film fund, which will support exclusively patriotic cinema? What should be the criteria for funding the Ministry of Defense for films?

Elena Drapeko: This is a good idea, because you need to raise the prestige of the army. There are world examples of movies that glorify the army, such fantastic films as “Independence Day” or “Star Troopers”, for example.

VIEW: Many modern patriotic films at the box office failed - for example, "We are from the future." What is the probability that other films are waiting for such success, especially if their production is put on stream? What should be done to make the cinema be both successful and patriotic?

ED: I think the issue of success at the box office should not be in the first place in this situation, these are two different things - success at the box office and the tasks of education do not always coincide. It is good when “Dawns here are quiet” or “Only old men go to battle” appear.

But in order for such films to appear, we need an environment - a social order and understanding by the creators of the fact that if they make a film and he does not collect cash, the state will compensate for the losses, simply because they have not removed erotica or horrors, something attracting "cheap" viewer. You remember that our film “Eggs of Destiny” had the biggest rental, is this terrible horror?

The spectator enjoys watching good cinema, but filmmakers cannot push this good movie into hire, because cinemas have ceased to be part of the system of cultural institutions, they are all now privatized with us. And they simply do not have an educational function, these are private institutions like stalls with beer.

VIEW: Putin in May at a meeting with filmmakers noticed that the people were yearning for "strong national cinema." What should, in your opinion, be a "strong national cinema" in modern Russia?

ED: Contemporary cinema should be built according to modern canons. Look at examples like the movie “Legend No. 17” or “Gagarin”, which already have a modern montage, graphics, plot development, but at the same time a remarkable directorial message. I think that we will grow a galaxy of cinematographers who can accomplish this, we just need to set such a task for them.

About six years ago we gathered theater leaders, there was a hard talk about the fact that in theaters there is nothing to watch, that they are turning the classics for the twentieth time. What well-known Moscow directors said “there is nothing to put - there is no drama”. After that, during the Moscow Film Festival there was a gathering of screenwriters. We asked: “Guys, what are you writing?”, They answered us: “We (the state) do not understand you, we write, in our opinion, good things, and we buy all sorts of rubbish, such meaningless“ movie ”.

So, when the state itself begins to define this framework, they will understand what we want from them. The current task of making profit from the cinema has led to the fact that cinema has begun to work for an audience from 14 to 18 years, which needs only movement, adventure, and so on. Planck went down.

VIEW: Do we even know how to shoot a patriotic movie? What should sponsors invest in?

ED: We must assign the task to the directors and then select the projects that are suitable for the social order. While we do not know how to do this, all the 90s have existed a stable course of “exposing” the history of Russia, diminishing the merits of its heroes, and I don’t know how the directors formed at that time would be reconstructed.

Probably, it is necessary to invest money not only in production, but also in film advertising, as the Federal Fund for Cinematography does, this has its own reason. I think that it is necessary to produce television cinema, not only feature films for cinemas.

VIEW: So you need to support projects with more complex scenarios, including for television films, and invest in advertising?

ED: Yes, the state still needs to be involved in the production of this film, not only in helping with financing, but also in formulating a social order.

Of course, they will start blaming me right now for censoring me, for setting conditions, but in fact, if the government spends money, then it, like any other investor, has the right to order. You can withdraw everything you want with your private money, but if you take them from the state, take off what the state needs.

VIEW: In mid-August, the Ministry of Culture explained its refusal to finance the future film by Alexander Mindadze “Dear Hans, dear Peter”, dedicated to the events of the Great Patriotic War. As the head of the ministry’s cinematography department, Vyacheslav Telnov, stated, “this film may not have the same look as veterans expect,” since the department’s program “everything is done on one date - the Victory’s 70 anniversary”. As you know, the film deals with the cooperation of the USSR and Germany in the years after the conclusion of the 1939 Pact of the year. But historians have never denied the fact of such close cooperation. It turns out that in the films, as in Soviet times, the story will be glossed over?

ED: If Mindadze wants to make such a movie, then he must either negotiate with the state, adjusting to his current ideologies, or remove it with other money. Perhaps, state officials believe that now is not the time to raise this topic. Do you remember this horror, when on Victory Day they showed a movie about penalty boxers who fought off the Nazis, and then the KGB men came and shot everyone? Not only did they raise this topic there, but they also distorted everything.

I think that Shoigu’s initiative to create this fund is a very good step, I can already offer Shoigu several scenes at once. I know well our army of the last 20 years, not the Soviet history, but today's heroes who are alive.
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  1. Denis
    Denis 24 September 2013 07: 33 New
    +6
    Bondarchuk’s patriotic spirit - The Ninth Company, which, by the way, enjoyed great success at the Russian box office
    But who would believe him when in the movies he soaked the militants in the toilet, and then ran to the anniversary of Grozny, well, quite by chance coinciding with Kadyrov’s birthday?
    Doesn't money smell?
    Then in a row with Berezovsky, etc., and better to the wall

    And so that the films watched in them, ACTORS should be removed, and not members of the drama club of our housing office
    1. berimor
      berimor 24 September 2013 12: 16 New
      +5
      I will subscribe here under your every word !!!
      I myself am a hereditary military colonel, retired, went through 2 wars in the Middle East, but such films about the army that flooded television screens today are impossible to watch. Moreover, they are just disgusting. You are right to say that in these films not professional actors are shot, but members of a seedy drama circle. The scripts of films are designed for either the Pepsi generation or the one that does not read anything and does not know about our history. Where did the institute of military consultants go !? You look at the shape of these so-called military men! It’s not sized, it sits like a scarecrow, tunic, all the folds in front are like those of first-time draftees (and this is for staff officers and generals!) The stars on epaulets are absolutely wrong like in Hollywood films about our army, orders and medals are mixed, placed incorrectly instead of the historical film’s appropriate script, the weapon is modern (although there are plenty of old weapons in warehouses and funds). The directors at least sometimes watched old films and looked into the computer (there are materials about the army in bulk, just do not be lazy!)
      In short, such films do only harm! Such films disgrace our army, our country!
      1. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 24 September 2013 15: 47 New
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        I am not a military man, I served only urgent, but I also agree. Current agitation is terrible.
      2. Denis
        Denis 24 September 2013 17: 35 New
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        Quote: berimor
        dishonor our army, our country!
        These non-traditional countries don’t have armies
        on their throne $
  2. Edward72
    Edward72 24 September 2013 07: 33 New
    +6
    I would like to add not only about the movie, but the education should be appropriate.
    1. waisson
      waisson 24 September 2013 08: 09 New
      +5
      I think there will be cinema and upbringing, but in addition to cinema, it is also necessary to create a patriotic animation to remove all shapeless mixers and the like
  3. a52333
    a52333 24 September 2013 07: 46 New
    +5
    If it’s a patriotic movie, it makes sense to say that it does not have to be cost-effective. Drive away on TV later, because it is important that as many people as possible watch it, and not how much it is collected at the box office. And the house 2 (and the like) to ban the show. otherwise we are trying to improve with one hand, and we are correcting the bomb under the ass with the other so that it does not slip.
    1. Hon
      Hon 25 September 2013 10: 18 New
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      On what grounds should "madhouse 2" be banned? The channel is private, they want it and show, "Mexico vacation" is even worse by the way.
  4. Dimy4
    Dimy4 24 September 2013 07: 50 New
    +4
    In order to shoot patriotic films, a social order is needed, and the person who demands this order must be educated in an appropriate spirit, starting with the older groups of the kindergarten, otherwise you can’t drive young people by any government resolutions to watch a serious patriotic film. The upbringing received in the 90s of the early 2000s is still enough only for eggs, unfortunately.
    1. Alexander 1958
      Alexander 1958 24 September 2013 12: 29 New
      +1
      Social order, you say? It depends on what is meant by a social order. There is an order of the elites, and there is an order of ordinary people. That in 80-90 there was an order for vulgarity and disinformation? I Under the social order, I mean what ordinary people would like to watch and listen to. But if the social order is understood as the goals of the "elite" who fools the people by slipping them false values ​​and role models through products for the mass media, then yes, there was such an order and it was well financed.
  5. predator.3
    predator.3 24 September 2013 08: 13 New
    +3
    ED: I think the issue of success at the box office should not be in the first place in this situation, these are two different things - success at the box office and the tasks of education do not always coincide. It is good when “Dawns here are quiet” or “Only old men go to battle” appear.

    For such films to appear, we need new BYKOVS, ROSTOTSKY AND GERASIMOVs, and something is not visible among the current directors.
  6. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 24 September 2013 08: 17 New
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    Yes, they knew how in their time to shoot properly. I think after watching "In the zone of special attention" and "Return move" more than a dozen guys wanted to get into the Airborne Forces. smile

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    3. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 24 September 2013 10: 09 New
      +1
      Oops, I'm sorry ... sad I thought it’s visible here, but it’s blocked crying
      1. eplewke
        eplewke 24 September 2013 13: 50 New
        +1
        You give copyright law ... laughing
        1. Landwarrior
          Landwarrior 24 September 2013 16: 22 New
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          Damn, I forgot about him laughing
  7. mithridate
    mithridate 24 September 2013 09: 58 New
    +3
    when the appropriate upbringing begins, then gradually the new BYKOVS, ROSTOTSKYES and GERASIMOVS will begin to appear
    1. Hon
      Hon 25 September 2013 10: 21 New
      0
      Migalkov brought up in Soviet times. Burnt by the sun watched? Eggs are better than that.
  8. nod739
    nod739 24 September 2013 10: 06 New
    +8
    it was once. ran away from lessons to "in the special attention zone" ....
    sometimes you watch TV and really think it’s impossible to show OUR film on Friday or Saturday, interesting, where it’s not the mattress prodigy that will be glorified, but ours, albeit from the realm of fiction, albeit a little aloof from reality ... she defeats us, and on Saturday night we get it
    sometimes you want to take the telecentre by storm ....
    but seriously - we have a lot of stories in the literature based on which you can create a very interesting movie, and if you shoot technically and spectacularly - there will be OUR your own Hollywood
    1. Alexander 1958
      Alexander 1958 24 September 2013 13: 59 New
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      Quote: nod739
      and Saturday you can’t show our film,

      Good day! Ek what do you want! Just start showing such a movie, so you will immediately have questions for the leadership of the country. And where did it all go? And who is to blame? Therefore, you have to watch House-2 Field of Miracles (In the country of fools) I serve the Soviet Union (Not long ago was at the box office) and other films of this direction
  9. 128mgb
    128mgb 24 September 2013 10: 14 New
    +7
    It turns out that in films, as in Soviet times, the story will be embellished?
    Patriotic cinema must be embellished and heroic. That would make a citizen feel proud of his country. And what do you feel after seeing the same "Penal Battalion"? Personally, this film caused unpleasant feelings for me.
  10. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 24 September 2013 10: 17 New
    +2
    Russian cinema will not survive another "Great Movie about the Great War", and if it is now in a deep coma and its soul has practically flown away into another world, then such a creation will be like a blow to the head with a hammer. I do not understand Russia has such a rich history, why these ugly "cinematographers" take only the worst and pour it on the heads of the people or even remove some kind of dregs that they only understand. Of course, from these people I do not demand films about the T-34 destroying hundreds of "Tigers" with one shot and crushing a million Nazis on the way to Berlin (although it would be possible to shoot and spit, I wanted it to be so), but at least they could cooperate in order to put down their scanty brains and give out at least something that is not disgusting.
  11. Sergeant
    Sergeant 24 September 2013 10: 49 New
    +3
    For so many years this patriotism has been spreading rot, then suddenly - they remembered ... Against the background of the "Valdai Theses" or what?
    To be "on the wave"?
    Maybe, for starters, the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation to clean!?!
    I’m sure there are many patriots there, only ... of another country!
  12. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 24 September 2013 11: 16 New
    +3
    Quote: predator.3
    For such films to appear, we need new BYKOVS, ROSTOTSKY AND GERASIMOVs, and something is not visible among the current directors.

    That's for sure. Already several films, now I don’t remember the names, can be called "remakes" (one such word pulls) Soviet on a military theme, but the quality is enough only for one-time viewing. The plot is similar to the original film, the actors seem to be normal, shooting with effects, but there is no SOUL in the film ...
    We need directors and screenwriters who understand what they want to shoot!
  13. komsomolets
    komsomolets 24 September 2013 11: 19 New
    +3
    The correct books should be read in childhood, in order to figure out where a normal film is, and where "Anticipation" is.
  14. shurup
    shurup 24 September 2013 11: 49 New
    +1
    War is dirt, sweat, fear and expectation. Do not varnish, but the viewer wants about love and you can’t convince him.
    Chubais demonstrated a tablet as a result of activity, and something there, at a private show, well, very "nano".
    Shoigu will present a disc with MoD-approved marching songs and a patriotic movie at a private screening such as "The Flight of the Mace Over the Nest of The Hague."
    The trouble is when the cobbler sews caps.
  15. nod739
    nod739 24 September 2013 12: 18 New
    0
    optional about war patriotic adorned

    can be removed about the exploration of Mars / moon / space, but let there be OUR tricolor. not a mattress

    the Yankees in armageddon showed MIR — like some kind of basement of an old falling apart house — everything hovering, sparking and falling apart, ...

    and the reality is that the world is the only normal station at that time, they have a small intestine with sky-lab
    and the ISS is basically based on world-2, although they steer the volume to a greater extent and they have a 10-hour connection, and not XNUMX minutes a day like our comonauts ... but the point is that our brains are there our metal made the whole basis and supply of the ISS ..... distracted, sorry

    but show the movie HOW they created the stations — spectacularly, the students will go and let them understand that the ISS — exists thanks to the USSR (when they were together) and Russia. to be proud of their involvement in their country ....
    let them show the world of the future, let utopia or naabarot, that good must be with fists
    looking at the literature of the 20th century, our idea is higher than their profit and stupid action, for example "through thorns to the stars" - a film about love and creation. give a remake
    Show...
    but you have to look at the mattress flag, but ours is not there, it’s understandable, they glorify their own

    I often hear from young people. how they receive education and plan to dump there, for there is nothing to catch, because we all suck, Nuno
    some later work at a construction site in a new school with a university education - and are proud of it, and when they met 10 years later, got drunk - it seems like you live well and others have settled down, and in general Russia has changed, but only who needs me here? there is no HOUSE and no one here. - my classmate is a real story
  16. IRBIS
    IRBIS 24 September 2013 12: 32 New
    +1
    I agree, patriotic cinema is now in the "rubble". Mikhalkov's epics, which were positioned as "war cinema", are just shnyaga. We need good films, not fairy tales, films.
    However, here it is: "... I can now offer Shoigu several subjects at once. I know our army well for the last 20 years ..." worries me too. How does she know "well" the army of the last 20 years? Did she serve in it? And she's already on "tovs!" "several plots at once". What is needed is not the plots that she dreamed of, you need a movie that reflects the spirit of the army.
    1. Drosselmeyer
      Drosselmeyer 24 September 2013 13: 16 New
      +4
      Plots, and I'll type. But who will write the scripts for the films? There is no one left, only those who will put the nkvdshniks with revolvers into the film about Kutuzov. And who will shoot? So far, only Bondarchuk, with his pseudo-patriotic film "9th company", is positioned as a candidate. And the actors? Again a greasy log in the face of the many-faced Bezrukov, the drunken Efremov and the wooden Boyarskaya? Oh, yes, there is still a multifaceted Panin, he will play a patriot, as he fought with the Tatars and restaurants in the Crimea.
      We must admit the fact that Russian cinema, as we knew it, has died forever. Now Russian cinema is the wildest consumer goods in the style of Mexican series.
      All hope for new directors and actors, not out of party, who will move the movie in small, low-budget steps.
  17. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 24 September 2013 13: 02 New
    +2
    Again the buffoons - the play actors sang: "Give me the money, and we'll just take it off!" They won't film anything. The approach to the promotion of films is surprising. Bondarchuk's "Stalingrad" has never been seen by anyone, it has not been released for hire, but already "by name" at the Oscar. I remember recently a "patriotic" film by the notorious Mikhalkov was put forward. And Medinsky was bleating something in his defense. Don't give these people a dime.
    And Mrs. Drapeko, as a political shape-shifter, "our shooting has ripened everywhere." On a wave of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, she crept into the Duma, after which she smoothly moved to the swamp of "Fair Russia".
  18. Sunjar
    Sunjar 24 September 2013 13: 17 New
    +1
    Mr. Bondarchuk drove about the Ninth company with three boxes. Bad example of a patriotic movie. There is also a message that there was a low command for which people fought and died there, that they sent children from the nefig to this height, and indeed all in vain, well, they gave the guys to tear to pieces to the souls and did not support them.
    Now the movie "28 Panfilov's" is being shot, at first they hoped to shoot a movie with their own money and the money of patriotic citizens, but then the state seemed to be involved, seeing that they were shooting about the heroes, and not about the bloody and criminal regime of Stalin. As the saying goes: "Let's see!"
    Without the supervision of the state, which is set up on patriotism and morality, and not on pouring mud on its own history, a good movie cannot be made.
  19. nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 24 September 2013 13: 53 New
    0
    The next distribution of sovereign pies. Even if one movie paid off, everything was cut for free.
  20. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 24 September 2013 13: 57 New
    0
    The problem ... Can’t you make patriotic films? Sure you may! Only here there is one question .... After all, a patriotic film does not just make a cash register. He teaches people something. And here a contradiction arises.
    What is patriotism? Patriotism is when "for the Motherland", right? And then estates, bl ... mistresses, cars, fat, mean faces, dead competitors, destroyed factories, stolen goods ... that's all then what?
    Is this also "for the Motherland"? Awaken patriotism in people, what will happen? Courts, prisons, and even lynching, when you habitually lean on "it". The patriots will pull the "master of life" out of the jeep, with which he (as he is used to) crushed someone and trample him. They will come to court and stop the trial of the person who actually rehabilitates drug addicts. He does not fight money for this, yes (this is his worst crime), but he chains them to the bed and can go in the face. But in reality it pulls out up to half ... and the superpaying centers on display are up to half a percent. Patriots will start Catching thieves! And not cooperate with them ...
    Here is our state and crumple on the spot. On the one hand, international competitors will trample it. Will they trample the state? Well, our authorities would easily have survived this (they really are, our authorities). But all will be taken away, and the very end will be finished! There is no safe foreign land! Only a powerful country can protect its citizens. There is no powerful country without patriotism. And the patriots ... will also take everything away !! It is stolen. There Svyatoslav Fedorov had his own, to the pittance with his own hands, he earned a hump and a brain. Well, him for that and ... And the rest?
    That is our power toil. Somehow it is necessary to awaken Russian power ... but that without these hatefully strong Russians! How to be that? Well, I just can’t imagine ... laughing