P.Svyatyenkov: "Vladimir Vladimirovich, trying to build Russia against Russian, you lead it to collapse"

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Yesterday, Vladimir Putin spoke at the Valdai Club. This year’s forum of well-known Western and Russian political scientists was decided to devote to the topic of Russian identity. Naturally, as usual at such events, the first few days no one really discussed anything - they were waiting for the first person. Well-known experts sluggishly said that “you are not there”, but they themselves were looking forward to the arrival of Vladimir Putin, for the Russian ruling stratum should consider its presentation on identity issues to be installation.

The President of Russia arrived and spoke. We quote, with insignificant bills, a part of his speech concerning the problems of the national idea and identity.

So, the head of state said:

"Identity, national idea cannot be imposed from above, cannot be built on the basis of ideological monopoly ... We all: the so-called neo-Orthodox Christians, and the neo-Westerners, the statesmen and the so-called liberals - the whole society will have to work together to form common development goals ... And this It means that liberals should learn to talk with representatives of leftist views and, conversely, nationalists should remember that Russia was formed precisely as a multinational and multi-religious state. GUSTs from the outset, and that, by questioning our multinational starting to exploit the theme of Russian, Tatar, the Caucasus, Siberia, and of anything else any other nationalism and separatism, we get on the path of destruction of their genetic code. In fact, we begin to destroy themselves.

The sovereignty, independence, integrity of Russia are unconditional. These are the "red lines" for which no one should go. With all the difference of our views, the discussion about identity, about the national future is impossible without the patriotism of all its participants. Patriotism, of course, in the purest sense of the word. Too often in national stories instead of the opposition, we are confronted with the opposition of Russia itself ... We must heal these wounds, restore the integrity of the historical fabric. You can no longer engage in self-deception, eliminating unsightly or ideologically inconvenient pages, breaking the link between generations, rushing to extremes, creating or debunking idols. It's time to stop noticing only the bad in history, to blame yourself more than any of our detractors will do. Criticism is needed. But without self-esteem, without love for the Fatherland, this criticism is humiliating and unproductive. ”

So what did the president say? Obviously, he called for the unity of all parts of the political spectrum under the slogan of patriotism and unity of the country. This slogan is correct. Indeed, it is unlikely that a civil war or the collapse of the state correspond to the fundamental interests of the people of our country.

Further. Putin called for a dialogue of all political forces - liberals, statesmen, neo-westerners and even neo-Slavophiles (this word was written with an error when deciphering on the presidential website). The head of state called on the liberals to listen to the left, and also said that nationalists should keep in mind the multinational character of Russia.

Well, dialogue is good. And the mention of nationalists in this context is perhaps a plus for the nationalist movement. We have the right to consider this statement of Vladimir Putin as an invitation to a serious conversation about the fate of the country.

So, dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, we will start a dialogue, which is to be postponed.

The main problem of the Russian people, as nationalists see it, is that the Russians are officially homeless and stateless people. We are artificially deprived of the motherland. There is no state on earth that would link its fate with the Russian people, Russian culture, Russian history.

The preamble to the Constitution of the RSFSR 1978 of the year stated: “The education of the RSFSR provided the Russian people, all nations and nationalities of the Russian Federation favorable conditions for comprehensive economic, social and cultural development, taking into account their national characteristics in the fraternal family of Soviet peoples.”

Of course, as a lawyer you, Vladimir Vladimirovich, know that the preamble has no legal force. But in it, however, the role of the Russian people in the formation of Russia was noted. In today's Constitution of the Russian Federation 1993, there is no mention of Russians. Yeltsin and his entourage stole our country. Our people are artificially erased from history and are deprived of the fundamental right that all peoples possess by nature, the right to their homeland, to their native land. Russians feel like strangers in modern Russia.

Moreover, many other nations have their own national republics on the territory of Russia. Want evidence?

The Constitution of Tatarstan: "The Republic of Tatarstan assists in the development of national culture, language, preservation of the originality of Tatars living outside the Republic of Tatarstan" (Art. 14).

The first article of the Constitution of Udmurtia: "Udmurtia is a state within the Russian Federation, historically established on the basis of the exercise by the Udmurt nation and the people of Udmurtia of their inalienable right to self-determination."

The Constitution of Karelia: “The historical and national peculiarities of the Republic of Karelia are determined by the Karelians living on its territory” (Art. 1, item 5).

The Constitution of the Republic of Komi: “The formation of the Republic of Komi and its name are connected with the original residence of the Komi people on its territory. The Komi Republic guarantees the preservation and development of the language, traditional culture and way of life of the Komi people and other peoples living in the republic, in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation ”(Art. 3).

The Constitution of North Ossetia prescribes the leadership of the republic to protect the Ossetian language as the basis of self-consciousness of the Ossetian people: “The Ossetian language (Iron and Digor dialects) is the basis of the national self-consciousness of the Ossetian people. The preservation and development of the Ossetian language is one of the most important tasks of the state authorities of the Republic of North Ossetia-Alania ”(Art. 15, para. 1).

Of course, the constitutions of some subjects of the Russian Federation also mention Russians. For example, the Constitution of Yakutia: “The Republic of Sakha (Yakutia) guarantees the preservation and revival of the indigenous peoples of the Republic of Sakha (Yakutia), as well as Russians and other old-timers” (Article 42, paragraph 1). The Constitution of Kalmykia (it is the Steppe Code): “The Republic of Kalmykia promotes the preservation of identity and ethnic uniqueness, traditions of Kalmyk, Russian and other peoples of the republic, especially respect for the elderly, respect for the woman, love and care for children” (Art. 14).

So, some republics of the Russian Federation in their legislation set the task of helping Russians, along with their titular peoples. However, if we look at the federal legislation, at the legislation of the territories and regions inhabited by the Russians, we find that there is silence about the Russian people. The Russian Federation is not going to help the Russian people, or to protect the Russians, or even the Russian culture. Total, abusive disregard for 80% of a country's population.

At the same time, the official propaganda shouts about the “state of 200 peoples”. Say, the Russians are alone against the 199 peoples and therefore have no rights. No one is against other nations, but why should Russia be built in defiance of the Russians at the expense of the Russians? Why do the authorities view Russia as a colonized territory, into which any number of foreigners can be imported, completely ignoring the interests of the country's indigenous population, that is, Russians?

At the same time, other peoples of Russia can have their own national republics and protect national interests on the territory of the Russian Federation. What are these republics, I just pointed out, and this list is far from exhaustive: after all, many of them pursue their national interests, simply without mentioning them in constitutions.

I would love to be a patriot of the Russian Federation, dear Vladimir Vladimirovich. I understand your logic and calls for patriotism. But how to be a patriot of a foreign, hostile state, in which the Russian people themselves are banned, where any “guest from the Caucasus” can be killed with impunity and receive “conditionally” with impunity? Are we a people of slaves who were given up at the mercy of foreigners?

I feel like a Chinese in the Manchu Empire. It is known that the Manchus enslaved China and ruled 300 for years without letting the Chinese raise their heads. Is this not the situation with us? Only in the role of the Chinese - Russians ...

You yourself, dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, are talking about the collapse of multiculturalism in Europe. But are there any differences between multiculturalism and multinationality? If there is, then only for the worse.

I urge both you and the country's leadership to finally understand the voice of reason and understand that there can be no state in which 80% of citizens are deprived of the simplest right to national self-preservation. Impossible Russia, in which the Russian polls are scorned as Nazis and "cattle", whose opinion can not be considered, bringing millions of migrants and trying to press the Russians in the direction of the grave.

Trying to build Russia in spite of Russians, against Russians and not for Russians, you will lead the current Russian Federation to a natural collapse according to the model of the Soviet Union.
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  1. Sasha1273
    -40
    24 September 2013 07: 39
    I urge you and the country's leadership to finally heed the voice of reason and understand that a state cannot exist in which 80% of citizens are deprived of the simplest right to national self-preservation

    I remember how in our rush Svetlakov sat in front of the telly, half of the Russian men are sitting in front of my eyes like this, a quarter of them go home to spend the night and then goof off again, and inject 5-10 percent. Look around at your friends, neighbors, passers-by, in the social network the life of citizens is very clearly visible. Sad sight
    1. +40
      24 September 2013 07: 52
      the problem is not in the constitution, but in the fact that the Russians are divided. Indifference to each other will not make the people stronger by writing several new articles into the constitution.
      1. +3
        24 September 2013 09: 17
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        several new articles to the constitution.

        Well, if they write it down? I doubt that they will begin to work properly?
        As we say, "Laws are good, but not obligatory."
        Or here's another "Paper will endure everything."
        Hello Alexander. hi
        1. +6
          24 September 2013 11: 27
          Quote: Arberes

          Well, if they write it down? I doubt that they will begin to work properly?

          hi Vito! I don’t know, I just don’t understand how this will change the identity of people. How will the loot cease to be a priority request
          1. +4
            24 September 2013 12: 19
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Arberes

            Well, if they write it down? I doubt that they will begin to work properly?

            hi Vito! I don’t know, I just don’t understand how this will change the identity of people. How will the loot cease to be a priority request

            How will the loot cease to be a priority? What does the loot have to do with it? Is the question raised about the place of Russians in the Russian Federation, the position of the government of the Russian Federation on this issue? Speak Russians are divided, but surely, but you need to act, water does not flow under a lying stone will be. And you can start by supporting sound articles, criticizing the erroneous position of the authorities, and introducing amendments to the constitution.
      2. +21
        24 September 2013 09: 29
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        the problem is not in the constitution, but in the fact that the Russians are divided. Indifference to each other will not make the people stronger by writing several new articles into the constitution.


        The problem is not in Russians. Russians have always been individualists, but not pigs like Americans. Everyone is climbing up from here and there, they lie, feed, agents of influence all around, the scum in NGOs has settled down, they create bulkheads on our heads. Now take and close NGOs involved in politics, and most of them will immediately become apparent how the domestic political background will change. In the meantime, agents of influence, such as this scribbler, are acting with impunity, it’s useless to rule the constitution.
        1. +4
          24 September 2013 10: 12
          Quote: Geisenberg
          In the meantime, agents of influence, such as this scribbler, are acting with impunity, it’s useless to rule the constitution.

          Significantly, the author, who pretends to be a guardian of Russian national interests, uses the methods of pro-Western liberalists - the substitution of concepts. Behind the general crowd of false premises and conclusions, the goals of such publications are masked. The validity of the claims is not important to them; quantity is important. So that, as they say, the aftertaste remains.
        2. -7
          24 September 2013 10: 16
          Absolutely agree. There was no screeching NGO in the USSR; the national question was not so topical. Now, I’m indulging in some kind of crime, howling is rising as if genocide is going on. However, no one notices that the most frostbitten crimes are committed, alas, by Russians.
        3. +8
          24 September 2013 10: 34
          Quote: Geisenberg
          Everyone is climbing up from here and there, lying, feeding, agents of influence all around, the scum in NGOs has settled down, they are creating bulkheads on our heads. agents of influence act with impunity


          And where is the government looking interesting? One example.

          American student benefits.
          Why are the Russian-American Association watching gifted students?

          ExxonMobil Russian Scholars Program is a scholarship awarded on a competitive basis to students in Russia who demonstrate excellent academic performance. This scholarship is for young people planning to complete a Master's degree in Geology from a college or university in the US or UK.

          This is all officially, the brains are leaving for permanent residence. And then the RAS is to blame for everything
        4. +12
          24 September 2013 11: 05
          Quote: Geisenberg
          Russians have always been individualists, but not pigs like Americans.
          Let me disagree with you - the whole history of Russia shows that the desire for community and justice among Russians has been traced for centuries, we are strong in our desire for unity, otherwise, we would have been crushed for a long time. And the second - Russia has always risen after temporary defeats, stronger and within wide borders than before, it is not difficult to trace in history, therefore Clintonich squealed, very afraid of a new Union hi
          1. +5
            24 September 2013 13: 17
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            Quote: Andrey57
            Let me disagree with you - the whole history of Russia shows that the desire for community and justice among Russians has been traced for centuries, we are strong in our desire for unity, otherwise, we would have been crushed for a long time


            To justice, yes! But to communality ... The Slavophiles-Narodniks stepped on this rake, and then, on a large scale, I. Stalin. Don't study history from textbooks. Russians have always strived for personal freedom, but not for the same as Europeans and Americans, i.e. not juridically (by law), but by spirit (by truth). When they imposed "freedom" on us, the Russian spirit disappeared. But he is gradually returning ...
      3. +17
        24 September 2013 09: 55
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        the problem is not in the constitution

        I agree, the problem is in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. 282st. Russians alone sit on it. As soon as the Russians begin to gather, they are planted. Purim number 2.
      4. +6
        24 September 2013 10: 20
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        the problem is not in the constitution, but in the fact that the Russians are divided. Indifference to each other will not make the people stronger by writing several new articles into the constitution.

        Of course, how not to be divided among them, and who can unite them? Are there any parties expressing the interests of the Russian people? If such appear them, sooner or later they crush. There was the Rodina party, which, for all its shortcomings, dealt with the Russian question more than others. Moreover, her popularity grew and, if memory serves me right, she went to the 3 place in the elections. And what fate befell her? The authorities got scared and defeated her.
      5. Ruslan_F38
        +7
        24 September 2013 11: 39
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        the problem is not in the constitution, but in the fact that the Russians are divided. Indifference to each other will not make the people stronger by writing several new articles into the constitution.

        Maybe the Russians are disunited, and this is really a problem, but you apparently are not aware of what is happening in the national republics, where Russians, Russian-speakers do not have the opportunity to realize themselves, where "local" nations dominate occupying leadership positions, crushing the entire business including a small one, where the nationalist policy is carried out almost openly, and the center is blackmailed by the national question and for some reason, they do not want to change the constitution in any way, the very articles that, in your opinion, do not play any significance - why is that? There is no need to belittle this problem, it is so acute that it cannot be hushed up - this is a direct path to the collapse of the country for the sake of the economic interests of the ruling "elites", I mean the "elites" in the national republics. Terry nationalism has blossomed for a long time and results not only in the inequality of Russians and "local", but also in the growth of radical sentiments among the inhabitants of the national republics. I am not even talking about terrorists, Islamists and others who, on the wave of small-town "national identity", are seizing ever larger territories in Russia. So it's worth taking your head out of the sand and looking at the problem seriously and more soberly. hi
      6. +12
        24 September 2013 11: 46
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The problem is not in the constitution, but in the fact that the Russians are divided.

        Alexander, but doesn’t it seem to you that we Russians are artificially, imperceptibly divided. Including, having thrown out from the Constitution of the Russian Federation a mention of the people who gave the name to the country.
        1. +6
          24 September 2013 11: 50
          Quote: Ustas
          Alexander, but doesn’t it seem to you that we Russians are artificially, imperceptibly divided. Including, having thrown out from the Constitution of the Russian Federation a mention of the people who gave the name to the country.

          You know, as I saw an accident with a minibus, it flew to a stop, but fortunately there were no victims (like) I don’t remember exactly now. But the bottom line is different, some rushed to help, while others at that time stole bags and mobile phones scattered on the ground.
          That will help to fix the brains of the article in the constitution to such people? All were then Russian, but far from uniform hi
          1. +1
            24 September 2013 11: 57
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            while others at that time stole bags and mobile phones scattered on the ground.

            ... it is necessary, it is simply NECESSARY that it would be CRIMINALLY punishable, for ten years or so - at least ... if you can’t shoot them in place, then you need to isolate them so that they do not multiply
          2. +1
            24 September 2013 12: 25
            A.M., where does the article in the constitution and cell phones come in? Are you replacing concepts.
        2. Ruslan_F38
          +9
          24 September 2013 13: 51
          Quote: Ustas
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The problem is not in the constitution, but in the fact that the Russians are divided.

          Alexander, but doesn’t it seem to you that we Russians are artificially, imperceptibly divided. Including, having thrown out from the Constitution of the Russian Federation a mention of the people who gave the name to the country.


          Of course they are disconnected, including on this forum - can't you see? Listen to what we are being told - Russians do not work, but only have fun or drink themselves, Russians pass by tragedy or someone else's misfortune, or are looting, as in the case of a minibus, they unobtrusively explained to us (and what does the constitution have to do with it? people are such, bad!), it turns out that the most frostbitten crimes are committed by Russians, on the Internet these Russians sit instead of working, but everything is fine with us with the national republics and really, why do the Udmurts or Karelians, Caucasians, Tatars need something of their own, national they adore us, Russians - there is one clever guy from another republic broadcasting here on the site around the clock. And who are the real men and toilers among us, on whose account Russia lives? - apparently all are not Russian. I read the comments of such clever people and take evil - I live in the national republic and that Russians are being flushed "down the toilet", and terry nationalism has been elevated to the rank of state policy, I know firsthand and it is not necessary to fill in here that the whole thing is in Russian "bums" disunity. I hope that there are people here who think and understand. Article plus, bold plus. We need proof of the devil's limit in the national republics - I will bring so much that they will not carry it away. You see the Constitution has nothing to do with it.
          1. Ruslan_F38
            +1
            24 September 2013 14: 25
            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            We need proof of the demon limit in the national republics - I will bring so much that - they will not carry it away. You have nothing to do with the constitution.

            Here is an article by a certain Rafael Khakimov, vice-president of the Academy of Sciences of the Republic of Tatarstan, director of the Institute of History named after Marjani, Academy of Sciences of the Republic of Tatarstan, academician of the Academy of Sciences of the Republic of Tatarstan, ex-adviser to the first president of Tatarstan, who has been responsible for the national policy of Tatarstan for many years:http://www.intelros.ru/?newsid=203 I recommend not to be lazy and read carefully the article of the person responsible for the national policy of Tatarstan. Here is another interesting article on the same topic - the national ideology of Tatarstan: http://www.info-islam.ru/publ/statji/manifest_rafaehlja_khakimova/5-1-0-23322

      7. WASABI
        +5
        24 September 2013 12: 27
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        the problem is not in the constitution,

        Hello, Alexander! I would not be so categorical in this matter. The Constitution, this is the beginning, the basic law, which sets out the fundamental moments of life and development of the state and the peoples inhabiting it. In fact (according to the current situation) you and I do not exist or our existence is not essential (or not important) for the further development of the Russian State. Well, you don’t need (according to the claims of the late Mrs. Techcher) in the territory of modern Russia such a number of people ...
        Indeed, according to the logic of the further development of events, one can assume that the process of "state" building is moving in this direction.
        The author asks:
        Why do authorities view Russia as a colonized territory,

        Yes, because our territory only de jure remains "independent" and "independent", in fact, the behavior of the power and economic elites in our land is akin to the behavior of the British in India and Australia at one time.
        A quite reasonable question arises: "Who are the colonialists who seized our country and left the Russians without their own home?"
        Let us turn to one of the most stupid politicians of the modern political olmp of Russia. Here is what V.V. Zhirinovsky thinks about this:

        Vladimir Volfovich often behaves too emotionally, but this is only part of his political image. Behind all his expression and watering with water is a clearly verified position of the country's leadership. In my opinion, he very accurately articulates the position of the presidents, being a kind of harbinger of upcoming political decisions, allowing the President to "test the waters" on this or that issue and at the same time temporarily distance himself from the issue under discussion, remaining, as it were, in the shadows.
        Conclusions to you - dear colleagues !!!
      8. +9
        24 September 2013 14: 45
        As a Kazakh, I would like to see the Russian neighbor in the north as a healthy and strong state, a twin, our ancestors fought together against Napoleon (two Kazakhs officially lit up in Paris) and against Hitler.
        Let it be a big brother who will help us when it's hard and when we need our help.
        I don’t think that any Republics having separated from Russia will be able to stand up against the United States and the geyrops, many if separated, the fate of Georgia or the Baltic countries awaits, they will be puppets in the hands of the Anglo-Saxons.
        Only the Russian people can be a single force uniting others, it is a pity that inside Russia they do not understand this.

        PySy Russian in my eyes is the character of the heroes of children's fairy tales of films, this is a person of Slavic appearance, blue-eyed, blond, with the Orthodox faith, reading Our Father, with a strong spirit (like soldiers at Borodino) reading the Officer’s code of honor, military traditions (everyone has military ancestor), this is a son who without hesitation will give his life for Mother Russia.
        Not a colonizer, like an Englishman in India or a conquistador in Spain, not a racist like an American counting blacks for slaves, and not a chauvinist like a Japanese despising the Chinese.
        A good soldier-drummer, like in the fairy tale of Mary the Artisan. I want to believe.
    2. pavlo
      +14
      24 September 2013 08: 10
      In social networks just loafers are sitting, though I’m not from RUSSIA, but in my opinion the author is right!
      1. slacker
        +13
        24 September 2013 08: 54
        official propaganda yells about the "state of 200 nations." Say, the Russians are alone against 199 peoples and therefore have no rights. No one is against other peoples, but why should Russia be built contrary to the Russians and at the expense of the Russians?


        A very correct description of the situation. The author - 5 points!
      2. +12
        24 September 2013 09: 29
        Quote: pavlo
        In social networks just loafers are sitting -

        Well, why should everyone write indiscriminately in loafers? For example, I came now from the third shift and communicate with you.
      3. +2
        24 September 2013 09: 59
        what is right? Karelia, Udmurtia? etc. Russians have already assimilated them, and what is written in their constitutions is like that for pro forma, does anyone seriously believe that Karelians or Udmurts will seriously decide that tomorrow we will build our own state. The only one who can The Caucasus, but they don’t need it yet, or rather, a small part of it runs through the forests, and the main part is against it. Is the author not entirely smart Russia is this Russian country or does someone disagree with this? At the expense of loafers, people should have time both for work and for sleep and for conversations (Internet).
        1. +5
          24 September 2013 11: 53
          Quote: Semurg
          what is written in their constitutions is so for pro forma, does anyone seriously believe that the Karelians or the Udmurts will seriously decide that from tomorrow we will build our state.

          In the eighties of the last century, did anyone seriously think that everyone would begin to build their own states?
    3. +4
      24 September 2013 10: 06
      NOT A DAY WITHOUT A NATIONAL QUESTION ...
    4. +6
      24 September 2013 10: 08
      Quote: Sasha1273
      I urge you and the country's leadership to finally heed the voice of reason and understand that a state cannot exist in which 80% of citizens are deprived of the simplest right to national self-preservation

      I remember how in our rush Svetlakov sat in front of the telly, half of the Russian men are sitting in front of my eyes like this, a quarter of them go home to spend the night and then goof off again, and inject 5-10 percent. Look around at your friends, neighbors, passers-by, in the social network the life of citizens is very clearly visible. Sad sight

      Do you have a job or a hobby to walk and count men in front of drawers? And who come home to spend the night, are they somehow celebrated? You puzzled me so much that today I definitely won’t go play tricks, I’ll be like Svetlakov in front of the telly))) Well, they’ve had fun with the mocker)))
      1. Sasha1273
        +3
        24 September 2013 10: 24
        Apparently hooked the peasants for a living, if so zamusunuyut :)))
        In general, I wrote to those who sit in front of the telly and play tricks at night, if you have a minority in front of your eyes, then I am glad to see you. Perhaps you are serving in the army.
        1. +4
          24 September 2013 10: 35
          No, just where did you get such information? According to polls or voting? Or from friends? Among my friends and acquaintances there are definitely no such)))
        2. Hon
          +4
          24 September 2013 11: 59
          Put a minus. I work, go in for sports, don’t drink, don’t smoke. Sometimes I have fun at night, in moderation since I work during the day.
    5. stroporez
      +4
      24 September 2013 10: 41
      looked around, looked ......... the neighbors, which is one that the second --- are plastered from dawn to dusk, they regularly fight with the "native" power. sometimes they drink, not without it, but
      Quote: Sasha1273
      so sits half of the Russian men, a quarter - generally goes home to spend the night and then again daywalks,

      -------- at you "bent", and speaking directly -------- breshete ...
    6. +5
      24 September 2013 11: 27
      Quote: Sasha1273
      right before my eyes

      Let me ask you, who are you? And what are you doing? If you could calculate that half of Russian men are sitting in front of the TV, a quarter use the family "hearth" for spending the night, and 5-10% work? Oh .., really you are ... Rosstat!
      1. Sasha1273
        +2
        24 September 2013 11: 37
        Have you ever wondered how the survey is conducted? Do you think that 140 million citizens of the Russian Federation are being interviewed? I judge by the court in which I live, by the village where my parents live, by colleagues I work with. Around constantly beer, talk about sports (TV sports), clothes, cars, and various IT devices, and of course the nagging that we live badly. I work in the civil service as an engineer and see how young guys are sitting and waiting for freebies.
        1. Hon
          +4
          24 September 2013 12: 04
          This is where such a depressing yard?)
    7. +3
      24 September 2013 11: 36
      from the Don.
      Are you living in a bomber jack? Around me, who don’t sit on jo, they live normally! Pensions would be added, but to the kids. But loafers are everywhere!
    8. +2
      24 September 2013 16: 22
      Quote: Sasha1273
      Sad sight

      Indicate where you live, where this is the saddest sight. Where I live, nothing of the kind is observed, people live, work, raise children.
    9. Heccrbq.2
      0
      24 September 2013 20: 42
      He doesn’t lead her anywhere, he’s just looking beyond a territory called Russia and has a certain level of REAL KNOWLEDGE, and all these elections, etc. are a cheap booth for zombie people, aa Muscovites, to congratulate you on the elections and congratulate you on another so to speak))) )))
  2. -6
    24 September 2013 07: 48
    Oh yeah. RLO. Where? How? All? Do you forbid to speak Russian? Call yourself Russian?
    1. 0
      25 September 2013 07: 30
      More minuses to the god of minuses, nyashi) Only here I don’t see any arguments, only a nationalistic bugurt.
  3. Valery Neonov
    -10
    24 September 2013 07: 49
    Distorts P. Svyatenkov or considers himself too smart:We, the multinational people of the Russian Federation, united by common destiny on our land, affirming human rights and freedoms, civil peace and harmony, preserving the historically formed state unity, proceeding from the generally recognized principles of equality and self-determination of peoples, honoring the memory of ancestors who gave us love and respect for Fatherland, faith in good and justice, reviving the sovereign statehood of Russia and affirming the inviolability of its democratic basis, striving to ensure the well-being and prosperity of Russia , proceeding from the responsibility for our Motherland before present and future generations, conscious of ourselves as a part of the world community, we accept the CONSTITUTION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.-from the Constitution of the Russian Federation . So, after all, Russia is a multinational state, if you do not twist the state, maybe unfortunately. hi
    Article 3.
    The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.
    1. Warrawar
      +42
      24 September 2013 07: 58
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      So, after all, Russia is a multinational state.

      Russia is not a "multinational" state. More than 80% of Russians live in Russia, not in all mono-national states, there is such a percentage of representatives of the titular nation.
      And 200 peoples now live in any country of the world, in the same Ukraine there are also about 200 different peoples, while Ukraine is a state of Ukrainians.
      In Russia, even the concept of the Russian nation, as such, has not been fixed. This is despite the fact that all other nationalities are legally approved (at least at the level of local constitutions).
      "A people that does not have a national identity is the manure on which other peoples grow." P. Stolypin.
      Here are Russians, now, this is manure for the growth of the remaining 199 peoples of Russia.
      1. +14
        24 September 2013 10: 09
        Quote: Warrawar
        In Russia, even the concept of the Russian nation, as such, has not been fixed. This is despite the fact that all other nationalities are legally approved (at least at the level of local constitutions).

        For comparison, you can look at the multinational state of Israel, in which Jews make up about 75% of the population (this is almost the same as Russians in Russia). At the same time, no one questions the fact that Israel is a Jewish state. The entire policy of this country is carried out in the interests of the Jewish people, first of all (which is quite natural). In Russia, the impression is that even the very word "Russian" is under an unspoken ban. In the media, you can calmly talk about Tatars, Chechens, Chukchi and anyone else, but as soon as it comes to the Russians, so immediately - the Russians. How many times in the speeches of officials have I heard phrases about three fraternal Slavic peoples: Ukrainians, Belarusians and ... for some reason Russians.
        1. 0
          24 September 2013 10: 26
          Quote: alebor
          three fraternal Slavic peoples: Ukrainians, Belarusians and ... for some reason Russians.

          That's right. In Ukraine - all Ukrainians, in Belarus - all Belarusians, in Russia - Russians. But there would be Russia, perhaps there would be Russians, all without exception, without exception.
        2. FIRE
          +6
          24 September 2013 14: 51
          Quote: alebor
          In the media you can safely talk about the Tatars, Chechens, Chukchi and anyone else, but how it comes to the Russians, so right away - the Russians.

          Tactics and strategy of the enemy: No ethnic group - no people!
          “We will inspire the Russian People that“ Russian ”is a concept not ethnic, cultural and spiritual. We will inspire everyone that the Russian people call the community of many ethnic groups, and even its core - the Great Russian people - is not monoracial ... "
          Those. roughly speaking: "Russian" is anyone who is rushing from Pushkin.

          Quote: alebor
          How many times in speeches official I heard phrases about three fraternal Slavic people: Ukrainians, Belarusians and ... for some reason Russians.

          The key word here is official. Ask if a common Maloros considers any "similarly seeded" from the Caucasus as his "brother" or a Beloros - "Newraseyanen" from Central Asia.

          Russian, Slav - you can’t become, by someone’s official decree. They can only be BORN. From Russian mom and dad. Dyrak, who thinks otherwise.
          1. +3
            24 September 2013 23: 39
            Quote: FIRE
            Russian, Slav - you can’t become, by someone’s official decree. They can only be BORN. From Russian mom and dad. Dyrak, who thinks otherwise.

            Father Mordvin, mother Ukrainian from near Belgorod ....
            I speak and think in Russian, I don’t know others, my eyes are gray, my look is Valdai, I consider myself Russian. I guess ... du-cancer?
            1. +2
              25 September 2013 00: 09
              Quote: Normal
              . I guess ... du-cancer?

              No you Normal. laughing
      2. 0
        24 September 2013 10: 11
        Manure, roughly said. Substance, maybe?
        1. Warrawar
          +7
          24 September 2013 10: 15
          Quote: Semen Semenych
          Manure, roughly said. Substance, maybe?

          All questions to Stolypin, these are his words.
      3. Ruslan_F38
        +5
        24 September 2013 14: 00
        Quote: Warrawar
        In Russia, even the concept of the Russian nation, as such, has not been fixed. This is despite the fact that all other nationalities are legally approved (at least at the level of local constitutions).
        "A people that does not have a national identity is the manure on which other peoples grow." P. Stolypin.
        Here are Russians, now, this is manure for the growth of the remaining 199 peoples of Russia.


        Very rude - but unfortunately very true.
    2. +22
      24 September 2013 08: 30
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      : We, the multinational people of the Russian Federation, ............. accept the CONSTITUTION of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION.-from the Constitution of the Russian Federation

      In Russia, the Russians are the absolute majority (for now). And we are invited to believe that the majority voluntarily and for the sake of civil peace and harmony decided to equalize their rights with an absolute minority. Then the majority decided that the minority should be encouraged and financed, turning a blind eye to the hegemony of the minority in the media and government. Indulge in every possible way the representatives of the minority on their territory and in every possible way suppress the dissatisfaction of the majority with the boorish behavior and contempt of the minority towards the majority.
      I almost believed ....
      NEARLY...
    3. +23
      24 September 2013 08: 32
      In 1993, the Americans wrote the Constitution to us, even children know about it ..
      He also leaves money from the budget of the Russian Federation, to various stabilization funds (for which Kudrin is recognized as the most ingenious Minister of Finance)))) Vladimir Vladimirovich’s great friend ????
      I already wrote that this law is written in English (there countries are listed in Latin)) and the Dumb translation into Russian is signed by Putin .....
      The attitude to the Language and its speakers is characteristic - is it not true ...
      And this is cooler than the production sharing agreement signed by EbNatik ...
      Well, with Putin (the brilliant breeder)) we are not on the way))) to the Russian people .....
      the sooner we understand this, the more we will remain alive))


      1. +3
        24 September 2013 10: 02
        Quote: Asgard
        Attitude towards the Language and its speakers is characteristic - is it not true

        Zhirik somehow stuttered about the bill protecting the Russian language. Who knows how it ended? As far as I know, in France there is such a law.
      2. Yarosvet
        -2
        24 September 2013 12: 34
        Quote: Asgard
        In 1993, the Americans wrote the Constitution to us, even children know about it ...

        But I do not know laughing
        I have heard about this many times, but I do not know a single fact confirming this unfounded allegation.

        Moreover, although the current Constitution is definitely imperfect, nevertheless, reading it, you come to the conclusion that these hypothetical Americans who wrote us the Constitution, for some unknown reason, worked in the interests of the citizens of the Russian Federation.
        1. +9
          24 September 2013 13: 13
          Yarosvet, I’m sitting on the phone, I saw your excerpts from Prostitution, oh, forgive the Constitution of the Russian Federation in one of the topics, I wanted you to focus your attention on the "features" of some formulations ...
          I’ll come to the hut, take a laptop and write in a personal ....
          For now, believe in the word - the Constitution is the basic law of enslavement
          (Kabbalah)))WE DO NOT NEED IT
          The Russian people have enough Ustoys that everyone has in their hearts ...
          You can put them on paper, even I can do it
          and the myth of the exclusivity of the "sun-faced patriot" who has no replacement among 200 million Russians on the planet can be undermined)))
          But wait, He himself will say something or do ...
          like a stool
          Like Shoigu
          Like Medvedev
          Like Nurgaliev
          last names can be listed for a long time ...
          And the time has not come yet
          You still have to make sure that you are being fooled not childishly.
          Wait a moment, I read komenty, which is interesting, my former opponents changed their point of view on Putin and Shoigu (people are getting around))))
          And this is good. You would have knowledge and Faith to People !!!!!!!!!!!
          Do you believe in what they say, but you must believe in what they do.
          But THAT IS NO (they dress up the army and rest in Sochi with pretty gymnasts)))))))))
          In the evening I will send, wait, + did not set (incorrect wording))))
          1. Yarosvet
            +2
            24 September 2013 13: 34
            Quote: Asgard
            the "peculiarities" of some formulations ...
            "... definitely imperfect ..." smile

            The Russian people have enough Ustoys that everyone has in their hearts ...
            Alas, not everyone has, and the state is not a nationality, but citizenship.

            But wait, He himself will say something or do ...

            people are coming back
            Et yes - it may just be too late ...
        2. +8
          24 September 2013 14: 12
          Quote: Asgard
          In 1993, the Americans wrote the Constitution to us, even children know about it ..

          Quote: Yarosvet
          But I do not know laughing


          And I personally know one of the authors of the constitution (in any case, much was said and written about this in due time).
          This is Shakhrai Sergei Mikhailovich, now the head of the apparatus of the RF CCI, and he is not an American smile Maybe the constitution was written under the dictation of advisers from the United States on the matter is not the point. It’s not even that the constitution is imperfect and we would like another. The fact is that those in power have long laid a large pile on the constitution and rule as they please, and when completely justified claims arise for them, their apprentices, like Fedorov, say; we say the occupation, the constitution written by the Americans and nothing can be done about it at all.
          The party in power, along with its allies in the face of the LDPR and SR, had a constitutional majority in the Duma, so that the government did not change the basic law if it was written by the Americans? Satisfied means.
      3. optimist
        +7
        24 September 2013 13: 49
        Quote: Asgard
        Well, with Putin (the brilliant breeder)) we are not on the way))) the Russian people ..... the sooner we understand this, the more we will remain alive))

        Gold words! The solution to ANY problem begins with its comprehensive awareness and study. GDP today is the "bogey" on which all of today's gangster-oligarchic power in the country rests. For Russians, he is a kind of "pop Gapon", only on a global scale. In general, the whole situation today reminds me very much of the 90-91 years. Then the authorities also rushed about, like obos..naya, splashing out in the media a bunch of idiotic chatter. And what: "Siberian Crane" does everything right, divide and rule! Of course, nationalism is a dangerous thing: "comrade" Hitler in the last century clearly went too far ... Even if we discard the theses about the "leading and guiding" role of the RUSSIAN people, then it is necessary at least to equalize in rights ALL peoples living in Russia. And this is still very far away ...
    4. +9
      24 September 2013 13: 14
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      Article 3.
      The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.

      Sorry, I don’t see anything about the Russian people here. And you?
  4. +17
    24 September 2013 07: 57
    Normal article. And if the authorities continue the idle talk of the authorities, then the nationalists, or those close to them, will start to vote en masse.
    1. Warrawar
      +28
      24 September 2013 08: 02
      Quote: My address
      Normal article. And if the authorities continue the idle talk of the authorities, then the nationalists, or those close to them, will start to vote en masse.

      Do not start. Firstly, all the nationalists whom they could have already been killed, and those who were not killed, they were put in prison. Secondly, even if they do appear, they simply will not be allowed before the election, and later they will kill or put them in prison.
      Russia is a country in which there are all nationalisms, except Russian.
      1. +19
        24 September 2013 08: 35
        In my region, in the Urals, there is in Yekaterinburg "City without drugs" by E. Roizman. This "City" fiercely fights drug traffickers and toughly, but relatively effectively, treats drug addicts. For a number of reasons, the authorities of the Sverdlovsk region, not because of their great intelligence, began to strangle the "City". As a result, Roizman became mayor of Eburg and won.

        There will be a massive Russian nationalism, as a protest to the authorities. A holy place is never empty.
        1. Warrawar
          +16
          24 September 2013 08: 46
          Quote: My address
          In my region, in the Urals, there is in Yekaterinburg "City without drugs" by E. Roizman. This "City" fiercely fights drug traffickers and toughly, but relatively effectively, treats drug addicts. For a number of reasons, the authorities of the Sverdlovsk region, not because of their great intelligence, began to strangle the "City". As a result, Roizman became mayor of Eburg and won.

          There will be a massive Russian nationalism, as a protest to the authorities. A holy place is never empty.

          Yes Roizman well done! Man! I was very worried about him in the last election.
          And most importantly, look what kind of persecution is going on against him in the media and at the legislative level (he does not leave the courtrooms). He is accused of all sins, including the fact that he is an "agent of the State Department." In the meantime, Putin's protege, former defense minister, member of EDRA - Serdyukov (who stole billions) is free and they are not even going to bring charges against him.
          1. +4
            24 September 2013 09: 02
            You know, Vladislav, sometimes the desire to write a small article in HE. In her, including, describe my thoughts when shown on TV ministers. And simple thoughts — a thief (in the old Russian sense, that is, both a pest and a bad worker) show, or is it all the same normal. But do not publish. He offered tough articles from the Free Press - did not pass.
            All the best.
          2. +2
            24 September 2013 09: 26
            Well, man! but to the question of nationalities a Jew! and does not hide it. Russians once again chose a collar.
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            3. Warrawar
              +9
              24 September 2013 09: 36
              Quote: Oberst_71
              Well, man! but to the question of nationalities a Jew! and does not hide it. Russians once again chose a collar.

              In general, he calls himself Russian. But even if he is a Jew, he did much more for Russia and for Russians than most Russians and Russians.



              1. Dober
                +4
                24 September 2013 16: 07
                Quote: Warrawar
                In general, he calls himself Russian.

                "Roi" (French) - king.
                By the way, Roizman's father is a "Jew", his mother is Russian, while among Jews his nationality is determined by his mother, so he is Russian according to halachic canons. Me too, although the first part of my surname is easily "translated" into many European languages, and the ending "-man" does not require any explanation at all.
                Roughly speaking, a man with all his actions proved that his life is dedicated to the interests of Russia and Russians.
                And here he is called the "Jew." Although for the Russians he did hundreds of times more than the average member with the Ryazan Hare.
                There is such a term - Russified. These are people who fully accepted Russian culture, language, mentality and psychology. Most often, only the surname, or some, half-forgotten origin, which already has no value for them, distinguishes them from the Russians. If you look at them not as individuals, but as a family branch, then they are in the process of joining the Russian ethnic group. Their children or grandchildren will already be Russian.
                Also with "half-breeds". Such people often work for the benefit of the national interests of Russians much more and more faithfully than the conventional "Vanya" from the Arkhangelsk region, whose family branch is 100% Russian.
                I, for example, have German "Jewish" and "Caucasian" Cossack roots, and nature has partly rewarded me with dark hair and light "Aryan" eyes, which even all sorts of liberals told me about, apparently hoping to agitate with such a "deadly argument" for "friendship of peoples". But I am a Russian nationalist. And Russia is the highest value for me.

                You should not fall into "skull-making", looking for drops and shares of "someone else's blood". By this we only weaken the Russian nation, instilling in ourselves a complex of inferiority and eternal doubts about the very right to our own existence.
                The consequences of such a policy, we can personally assess on the prevailing opinion: "Is there really a Russian after the Tatar-Mongol yoke?" It is on such an attitude, about a certain mythical “fatal uncleanliness of Russians”, in many respects the ideology of multinationality and denial of Russian rights to Russia rests.
                1. +1
                  25 September 2013 03: 41
                  Dober
                  Roughly speaking, a man with all his actions proved that his life is dedicated to the interests of Russia and Russians.
                  And here he is called the "Jew." Although for the Russians he did hundreds of times more than the average member with the Ryazan Hare.
                  There is such a term - Russified. These are people who fully accepted Russian culture, language, mentality


                  welcome hi
                  I agree with you in many ways
                  I would like to give an example: The Soviet writers of the Strugatsky brothers, in my opinion, one of the best writers of science fiction writers in the world, have very strong tales with an unbeatable, unique narration of the text that is still relevant and still (well, I'm just a direct fan of the works of these guys), I even believe that some of their works it would be nice to lead to school books!
                  Of the Russian artists of Jewish origin, I would like to note Levitan (born in Lithuania) one of the strongest landscape painters in the Russian Empire, one current work (on eternal peace) which is worth it! (Intrinsically immaterial kaenchen)) Only a person completely imbued with Russian culture merged with the greatness of Russian nature, so to speak could create such a masterpiece!
                  I can judge this as a person who is directly related to painting
                  so that in your argument there is a considerable proportion of rational grain
            4. sashka
              +8
              24 September 2013 10: 32
              Quote: Oberst_71
              Russians once again chose a collar.

              Not a fact ... Jews and Kazakhs can be Russians, and indeed everyone who lives in Russia and "even" Americans ..
              1. +4
                24 September 2013 10: 50
                Quote: Sasha
                Quote: Oberst_71
                Russians once again chose a collar.

                Not a fact ... Jews and Kazakhs can be Russians, and indeed everyone who lives in Russia and "even" Americans ..

                you write exactly who is Russian for Russia, and then the division into Kazakh-Jew, rich poor.
                1. +5
                  24 September 2013 12: 03
                  Quote: Semurg
                  who is for Russia and Russian

                  A great many peoples consider Russia their home, the Russians did not enslave the peoples, did not rob them and did not destroy their culture. Therefore, there are examples of voluntary accession, as this made it possible to preserve its roots, culture, identity, and not be torn to pieces in war and turned into slaves.
                  The Russians live peacefully together with other peoples and see them as friends, but they are not going to endure lawlessness in their villages and cities from overwhelming scum!
          3. +5
            24 September 2013 13: 17
            Quote: Warrawar
            Yes Roizman well done! Man! I was very worried about him in the last election.

            Wait to express joy for Roizman, give time to look at his leadership.
        2. +1
          24 September 2013 10: 05
          Quote: My address
          . As a result, Roizman went to the mayors of Eburg and won.

          He would have lost with such a surname ... Although he is doing everything right so far.
    2. +6
      24 September 2013 10: 18
      I sincerely hope that nationalists will soon come to power !!!
  5. predator.3
    +16
    24 September 2013 08: 02
    So what did the president say? Obviously, he called for the unity of all parts of the political spectrum under the banner of patriotism and the unity of the country.


    Well, of course, like billions, so it is to the Caucasian republics, and the rest of the regions - "patriotism"!
    1. waisson
      +9
      24 September 2013 08: 13
      Yes, it’s noticed exactly who tops and who roots
    2. +4
      24 September 2013 10: 22
      That's exactly why not build in our Vologda "Orthodox Heart of the Vologda region" for two billions;))) We are not against !!!
      1. stroporez
        +3
        24 September 2013 13: 24
        it won’t work out ........ to the one who conceived such a construction --- 282 at the time prisobachat.ona in the course and Schaub was invented here such builders did not even think to build a shoto type
        Quote: Deniska
        "Orthodox Heart of the Vologda Region"
        ..........
  6. Valery Neonov
    +10
    24 September 2013 08: 03
    Quote: Warrawar
    even the concept of the Russian nation, as such, has not been fixed in Russia

    I can agree with one, the situation is ripe to change some of the Provisions in the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Much has changed in Russia over 20 years ... hi
    1. +6
      24 September 2013 10: 23
      Until we clean out the political "elite" then there is no point even thinking about changing the constitution !!!
  7. pinecone
    +1
    24 September 2013 08: 07
    This means that liberals must learn to speak with representatives of the left.

    All the same, it is time to define the concepts of who the "left" are, who are precisely the conductors of the unbridled liberal ideology of permissiveness, and the "right", who have always been distinguished by state conservatism and adherence to traditional national values.
    1. +2
      24 September 2013 08: 35
      Both the right and left, just swing the pendulum, and it does not matter which way to swing it. But didn’t they try to live and work without disturbing anyone in the neighborhood? Of course, chatting is not carrying bags, but still it's time to take up cleaning our own garbage in the head, which built the walls in mutual understanding with each other. After all, people of different views can work next to each other at the enterprise, doing something in common? So why is this not applicable to the country itself. It’s time to build our own life, taking up the construction tool ourselves, and do everything ourselves without waiting for someone to do it for us. The lazy will always blame everyone around him, except for his beloved.
      1. +11
        24 September 2013 09: 03
        Quote: alexneg
        Both the right and left, just swing the pendulum, and it does not matter which way it swing. But didn’t they try to live and work without disturbing anyone in the neighborhood?

        And how do you rate it? How is the swing of the pendulum (boat)? Or trash in someone's head?

        Shooting in the center of St. Petersburg the first ghost of a Muslim uprising
        Today, 02:52 • Author: Apolitikus • Views: 1118 • Comments: 9 • Events in Russia
        As it turned out, the sensational shooting, arranged by a crowd of Caucasians in St. Petersburg, was caused by the fact that immigrants from the southern republics were not allowed into the bar. They did not pass banal face control, but instead of going to another institution, they called for reinforcements from their fellow tribesmen and turned the very center of Peter into a battlefield in which casual passers-by suffered.
        What does this incident mean? Yes, that the Caucasians finally believed in their absolute exclusiveness. They already see themselves as some “supercitizens,” and perceive the institution’s legal refusal to let them in as a terrible insult that can only be washed away with blood. Blood and gunfire at passers-by shouting "Allahu Akbar."
        Yes, now Putin and his entourage see in the Caucasians and other imported Muslims a certain support of their throne and their power. They make them a kind of weapon of suppression of Russians, but soon this weapon can turn against all of Russia. This is already starting to happen, as Caucasian aggression is getting out of control.
        Once upon a time, in Medieval Egypt, the weakening Ayyubid dynasty also decided to bet on imported ethnic minorities, creating an army of Mamelukes from them. By a funny coincidence, by the way, the Mamluks were formed from the peoples of the Caucasus and Central Asia. For some time they helped the unpopular sultans to hold onto power, but then, gaining strength, they themselves overthrew the dynasty that invited them and took power into their own hands. And in Russia, the same thing may happen over time. If the authorities continue to instill a sense of superiority and permissiveness in Caucasians.
        http://warfiles.ru/show-39291-strelba-v-centre-peterburga-pervyy-prizrak-musulma

        nskogo-vosstaniya.html
        1. 0
          24 September 2013 10: 12
          Mamluks are not an ethnic minority, these are pupils of Suvorov schools, though not all Arabs were the most different there were Negroes and Slavs, by the way, and the rulers did not invite them, but bought the same tactics with their nuances from the Turks and their Janissaries.
        2. +3
          24 September 2013 10: 13
          What does this incident mean? Yes, that the Caucasians finally believed in their absolute exclusiveness.

          And also Moldavians, the other day a man was beaten with bits, and so on and on ... Conclusion, to break everyone. We are supposedly the best, the Russians do not kill anyone, do not shoot children drunk from the windows.
          What difference does it make who killed whom? The main thing is that the law in such cases act harshly.
        3. lilit.193
          +1
          24 September 2013 17: 56
          Quote: Andrey from Tver
          This is already starting to happen, as Caucasian aggression is getting out of control.

          She had long gone out of control.
          Quote: Andrey from Tver
          If the authorities continue to instill a sense of superiority and permissiveness in Caucasians.

          The authorities have long condoned them. So they are impudent before our eyes. Yes, in general, they are already completely insolent.

          And where is the main defender and lawyer of the orphaned offended by all and disadvantaged Caucasians with a nickname Hleb??
      2. +1
        24 September 2013 10: 09
        Quote: alexneg
        After all, people of different views can work next to each other at the enterprise, doing something in common?

        They can. But for some reason they are paid in different ways, and the demand is also different.
        1. +3
          24 September 2013 10: 49
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          They can. But for some reason they are paid in different ways, and the demand is also different.


          Only two things are sold in the world: information and labor. And when we get a job we are evaluated according to the work performed - labor or intellectual effectiveness, i.e. salary is our value. Everything, nothing else in the world is for sale. So draw conclusions. And a person who gnaws at envy will never be provided even with the minimum benefits until he gets rid of this vice. By the way, envy only harms a person who is jealous. He robs himself of what he envies. This is the law of Nature and it works regardless of whether a person believes in it or not.
          1. +4
            24 September 2013 11: 48
            This is not envy, but a desire for justice. Have you watched Tatar TV? Or Bashkir? There is very visible concern for the cultural appearance of the nation. Where is Russian TV? Or are there enough television channels like TNT and STS? And the size of benefits and subsidies there is higher. And I envy the same Tatars, because it’s really easier for people to live there, and not because they work better or more, but because at the helm of the Tatars they are proud that they are TATARS. And with us ... 282st.
            1. +2
              24 September 2013 12: 39
              Read carefully my post again and after that yours and you can get an answer. An alcoholic never recognizes himself as an alcoholic, like ...
            2. +1
              24 September 2013 12: 56
              And what about the Orthodox channel and Culture ?! And "Play, accordion!", "Clever men and clever men" for whom ?!
              1. +6
                24 September 2013 13: 22
                Quote: 31231
                And what about the Orthodox channel and Culture ?! And "Play, accordion!", "Clever men and clever men" for whom ?!

                I can tell for whom, but I already have one warning.
                1. Dober
                  +2
                  24 September 2013 16: 54
                  Quote: IRBIS
                  there is already one warning.

                  I have 4. And so far. One (ten) more or less for me absolutely FSUs.
                  Therefore, I will say - channels "culture" for "shvydkov" - there they are like lice in a trench.
                  "Play, accordion!" for the cattle, who in the morning have already driven into the pumpkin of a booze and they should not THINK about anything, except how to continue their "fussy life".
                  "Clever and clever" - for corporations looking for "brains". In particular "LG".
            3. Ruslan_F38
              +4
              24 September 2013 14: 42
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              This is not envy, but a desire for justice. Have you watched Tatar TV? Or Bashkir? There is very visible concern for the cultural appearance of the nation. Where is Russian TV? Or are there enough television channels like TNT and STS? And the size of benefits and subsidies there is higher. And I envy the same Tatars, because it’s really easier for people to live there, and not because they work better or more, but because at the helm of the Tatars they are proud that they are TATARS. And with us ... 282st.

              Envy the Tatars? And the Russians who live there - half of the population of the Republic of Tatarstan, if not more envy?
              Not a single Russian minister remains in Tatarstan
              This was not even in the years of the most terry "sovereignty" ...
              The decrees signed yesterday, March 17, by the President of Tatarstan Mintimer Shaimiev on the appointment of four new republican ministers (land and property relations, education and science, industry and trade, transport and road facilities) can be considered the final "triumph" carried out in the republic over the past twenty years. national personnel "policy. Now, among the heads of eighteen republican ministries, not one Russian remains, which was not even in the years of the most terry "sovereignty". The only minister with a Russian surname - the newly appointed head of the Ministry of Transport and Roads, G.E. Yemelyanov - is, according to some information, a Kryashen. All the rest, as you can easily verify by going to the official server of Tatarstan Tatar.ru, belong to the "titular" nation, whose representatives, by the way, do not even make up the majority in the republic. According to the official data of the 2002 All-Russian Population Census, Tatars (together with the "Kryashens", Siberian and Astrakhan Tatars) made up about 53 percent of the republic's population, while Russians made up about 40 percent. However, these data were initially questioned, since, according to numerous reports from the field, the census was carried out with numerous violations. You can agree or disagree with the given figures, but even if you take the minimum, the fact remains: the forty percent Russian population is now completely denied representation at the level of the heads of republican ministries. I remember the former state adviser on political issues to the President of Tatarstan Rafael Khakimov justified these "features" personnel policy with the ridiculous and humiliating Russian argument that among them there are no worthy candidates for responsible government posts. I wonder what kind of "excuse" the current advisers of Mintimer Shaimiev will invent. Will they start talking about the fact that when appointing to leading positions they take into account exclusively "business qualities" (which looks more than doubtful given the current ministerial leapfrog)? One thing is for sure - this time they will not succeed in nodding to Moscow, because here they just managed to find Tatars worthy of the posts of heads of federal ministries.
              Russian line
              http://www.rusk.ru/newsdata.php?idar=730482
              1. Dober
                +2
                24 September 2013 16: 58
                Quote: Ruslan_F38
                Not a single Russian minister remains in Tatarstan

                Oh, you will incur trouble, Ruslan.
                We'll have to urgently apply for political asylum. It is also possible in "our land". Nothing, we will help for the first time, if anything ...
                You can live here too ...
                Just need to make such a poster, with it
                unterstützung easier to get laughing
                1. Ruslan_F38
                  +2
                  24 September 2013 17: 55
                  Quote: Dober
                  Oh, you will incur trouble, Ruslan.


                  Trouble? Wait and see. I hope your eye is not wormy?))

                  Just need to make such a poster, with it
                  unterstützung easier to get
                  What kind of genocide are we talking about - the genocide of the Chechen people? There was no such thing. And if the genocide of the Russian people is Chechen, then of course it was, but where does the GDP come from? So I would burn this poster laughing

                2. Ruslan_F38
                  +1
                  24 September 2013 18: 03
                  Quote: Dober
                  We'll have to urgently apply for political asylum. It is also possible in "our land". Nothing, we will help for the first time, if anything ...
                  You can live here too ...


                  Thank you of course for the help offered, but I'm better here - I'm an old-fashioned patriot. hi ... "Abroad will help us" is not for me.
              2. 0
                24 September 2013 20: 14
                [quote = Ruslan_F38] And the Russians who live there - half of the population of the Republic of Tatarstan, if not envy you anymore? [/ quote]
                [quote = Ruslan_F38] Russians live there better than in the Ryazan or Saratov regions. As for the ministers, the composition of the government should be proportional to the nationalities living. 5 percent of the Tatars, 5 out of 100 places are yours, 1 percent are Jews, and your place is also ONE.
                1. Ruslan_F38
                  +2
                  24 September 2013 20: 40
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Russians live better there than in the Ryazan or Saratov regions.


                  You just don’t tell me okay - who lives well in Tatarstan.

                  As for the ministers, the composition of the government should be proportionate to the nationalities living. 5 percent of the Tatars, 5 out of 100 places are yours, 1 percent are Jews, and your place is also ONE.
                  - did you read the article? Which Jews, which Russians? Where? You’re still making some conclusions. In Tatarstan, oil, the chemical and automotive industries, the center floods the Republic with money (take the Universiade) - they would have lived worse there than in other regions of Russia - however - they live! Come to us with a Russian surname and try to get a more or less significant position or just a significant position - when you try, get a job - then you will draw conclusions.
                  As for the Minister of the Jew in Tatarstan - an unfortunate joke.
                  1. 0
                    24 September 2013 21: 59
                    Quote: Ruslan_F38
                    As for the Minister of the Jew in Tatarstan - an unfortunate joke.

                    Meant the government of Russia.
                    Quote: Ruslan_F38
                    try to get a little more or less leading or simply significant position

                    I was not talking about the posts, I agree with the posts, ordinary hard workers, entrepreneurs still live better than the average for Russia, and it’s very disappointing that a trailer with Tatars, and not on a par with the country!
          2. +6
            24 September 2013 12: 40
            Quote: alexneg
            And when we get a job we are evaluated according to the work performed - labor or intellectual effectiveness, i.e. salary is our value.

            Following your logic, the Russian Armed Forces were unrealistically lucky when the "women's battalion" of Minister Serdyukov was in charge. The intellectual efficiency of which was not poorly assessed by salaries and bonuses. Looking closely at the incomes of wives and offspring, those in power at different levels, again, according to you, you understand all the intellectual power and hard work of companions and children.
            Quote: alexneg
            So draw your own conclusions.

            Output . Check what you read with practice more often.
            1. 0
              24 September 2013 13: 09
              I can’t explain it to you, but I live by this principle and everything suits me. And the payment for the wrong prices always comes, sooner or later, no matter who the person is or what he does. Whine more often and Hell on Earth will be guaranteed for yourself, and if you want to see the person responsible for this, go to the mirror.
      3. +7
        24 September 2013 10: 25
        In Soviet times, all republics believed that they feed RUSSIAN. And what after the 90s? Something Ukrainians are not painfully prosperous steel!
  8. Felis
    -6
    24 September 2013 08: 32
    P. Svyatenkov is encouraged to think more about the meaning of life.
    When will this ONE-sidedness of thinking end? Another analyte.
    "Trying to build Russia in spite of the Russians, against the Russians and not for the Russians, you will lead the present RF to a natural collapse ..."
    But this is called PROVOCATION, because if it is not her, then the author is stupid.
    One protest has died, so now apparently you need to raise another?
    Enough nonsense already, get down to business.
    1. Dober
      +10
      24 September 2013 09: 05
      Quote: Felis
      Enough nonsense already, get down to business.

      That's for sure ... For example, close the stavropol region from the rabble. Otherwise, soon "Felis" am, before going to the "shopping center", you will need to learn the "name of the prophet's mother."
      But he most likely already knows him - that's why he "recommends" P. Svyatenkov ...
  9. +13
    24 September 2013 08: 47
    Quote: Felis
    Enough nonsense already, get down to business.


    You tell those Russian people (!) Who are running after these scoundrels on the video, shouting "Allahu Akbar", scorching from small arms ...

    http://warfiles.ru/show-39291-strelba-v-centre-peterburga-pervyy-prizrak-musulma
    nskogo-vosstaniya.html

    Something the media are silent, like a fish on ice?
    1. Warrawar
      +11
      24 September 2013 08: 55
      Quote: Tartary
      Something the media are silent, like a fish on ice?

      Because the news is "not handshake", very inconvenient for creating a myth about a "multinational" people.
  10. +11
    24 September 2013 08: 59
    Well here is a quote -
    ".." The formation of the RSFSR has provided the Russian people, all the nations and peoples of the Russian Federation with favorable conditions for a comprehensive ... ", etc.
    WHERE IS HERE - "..the role of the Russian people in the formation of Russia is noted." So where?
    It turns out that the 1978 Constitution also says nothing.
    Where is it said?
    In a speech by Stalin, at the Solemn Meeting in honor of the Victory in World War II, in World War II.
    Well, they will introduce into the Constitution - ".. the Russian people are ....." ??? Who is he?
    The bearer of statehood? No - state - Russian Federation. And not Russian Power, say.
    The main people in terms of number? Yes. But where? In the towns and the remaining villages. And what is this difference that needs to be introduced into the Constitution. The French Riviera is already called the French Ruble - is it indicative? In Miami, our tops are problematic. But in the Caucasus they are not.
    What else?
    Are there many Russians in the government? In business? In politics? In art? Not.
    There are many Russians only in the army.
    Let's make - ..Russian are an army reserve. Cannon fodder. A people ready to lay down their lives. For your friends.
    Only ... who are the others?
    Also not good.
    ...
    He has already spoken. They built, they built ... the Soviet people. Built. Anyone was generated - Turkmens, Gagauzians, Moldovans-Romanians, Vainakhs, Sakha, Tuvans - only, damn it, the Russians did not work.
    So maybe - we will not wait - mercies from those who want to build us again.
    But we ourselves will not forget that WE ARE SLAVES. WE ARE RUSSIANS.
    1. +7
      24 September 2013 16: 59
      Quote: Igarr
      There are many Russians only in the army.

      And it is right. In case of any trouble, these people will decide "what" and "how".
      And not such warriors posing with a kitchen knife and an air gun.
  11. serge
    +7
    24 September 2013 09: 03
    "The Manchus enslaved China and ruled over it for 300 years, preventing the Chinese from raising their heads. Isn't this the situation with us? Only in the role of the Chinese are the Russians ..."
    --------------
    And in the role of Manchu - the Jews.
  12. Valery Neonov
    +4
    24 September 2013 09: 25
    Quote: Felis
    Enough nonsense already, get down to business

    For example, to come to the Amur region and help restore everything after the flood, -that will be patriotism! Or just the language of much ... winked
    1. +2
      24 September 2013 10: 30
      Quote: Valery Neon
      Quote: Felis
      Enough nonsense already, get down to business

      For example, to come to the Amur region and help restore everything after the flood, -that will be patriotism! Or just the language of much ... winked

      Sorry for the immodest question? Are you on your way? To carry a blizzard - not toss bags ...
      1. Valery Neonov
        +2
        24 September 2013 11: 18
        Are you on your way? - And I respected 3,14 ... I don’t deal with pain, but I’m officially employed and doing my job I dare to assure you in the present way. hi
        To carry a blizzard - not toss bags ..-just this is what Svyatenkov does ...
  13. +7
    24 September 2013 09: 34
    Why do authorities view Russia as a colonized territory into which any number of foreigners can be imported, completely ignoring the interests of the country's indigenous population, that is, Russians?
    And you look at the periphery of the country, there is a completely different mood, they do not care who you are, Russian, Kazakh, Ukrainian or one of the 199 nationalities of Russia. The main thing is to find a job where at least something is paid. Salary 8-10 thousand per month. And if you get 15 - you're an oligarch, they envy you. Poverty in the country, and you are national self-preservation. People just want to eat.
    1. +3
      24 September 2013 10: 15
      Quote: major071
      Poverty in the country, and you are national self-preservation. People just want to eat.

      Does the term causal relationship tell you anything?
  14. -6
    24 September 2013 09: 52
    "... there can be no state in which 80% of citizens are deprived of the simplest right to national self-preservation. Russia is impossible, in which Russians are all defamatory as Nazis and" ", whose opinion can be disregarded, bringing in millions of migrants and trying to press Russians into side of the grave. "

    Confused "porridge" from the one bitten by the national question.
    Statements such as the ones above must be argued for with facts. But, the author does not need this, he seems to be pedaling a question, pursuing some personal goals.
    Questions, seemingly rhetorical, to the author:
    - What is the policy of genocide of the Russian people expressed now? The lack of language on the special status of Russian in the constitution of the Russian Federation?
    - defamation of Russians (like the Nazis and "b") is the state policy? Give the facts supporting this statement.

    No doubt MINUS article.
    Only disrespect in the Russian-speaking audience can allow you to write such a frank propaganda nonsense.
    1. +5
      24 September 2013 11: 59
      I quote a fact: try to register, for example, a legal entity or (even better, to get a feel for) a public organization, like a military-patriotic club for teenagers or there is a historical / cultural orientation, and in the name so that the word "Russian" is present. "Russian club", "Russian warrior", "Russian something else" - depending on the direction. Checks and a bunch of questions from the prosecutor's office and the E department are guaranteed.
      zs perhaps the company "Russian Aluminum" (RusAl) does not count. For obvious reasons.
      1. +1
        24 September 2013 12: 39
        Quote: hort
        I quote a fact: try to register, for example, a legal entity or (even better, to get a feel for) a public organization, like a military-patriotic club for teenagers or there is a historical / cultural orientation, and in the name so that the word "Russian" is present. "Russian club", "Russian warrior", "Russian something else" - depending on the direction. Checks and a bunch of questions from the prosecutor's office and the E department are guaranteed ...

        Fine. There is a direction, but it is not known how much your fact demonstrates a deliberate policy of the authorities?
        As grandfather Lenin said: "a fact is a fact. Here are three facts - a trend."
        In a word, your fact says nothing about the process.
        Unfortunately.
        And vice versa. If you devote a few minutes to Google, you will find across the country an array of different subjects from the "Russian Dance Club", the "Russian Platinum" company to "Russian bars (restaurants, cafes, eateries)", banks, manufacturing companies, etc. up to the media, such as "Russian Reporter".
        By the way, in Khabarovsk, a sports club "Russian hand-to-hand combat" and a section of power extreme "Russian bears" have been functioning for a long time.
        1. +2
          24 September 2013 14: 13
          Well, I won’t deny it. However, the tendency described by me had a place to be of the year until 2009, probably. Perhaps not in all regions, but was
  15. +6
    24 September 2013 09: 53
    The GDP is engaged in verbiage in the best traditions of the HUMPS. Really engaged in the enslavement of the Russian people. What did his team of losers do while seated on the throne?
    - The collapse of the economy and its complete redistribution into raw materials.
    - "Steep dive" of science and the destruction of education.
    “The free medicine is over.”
    - "Pension reform" - poverty and the last nail in the coffin for the elderly.
    There are many examples of such "management"!
    And he does the washing of eyes and ears because of rising tension in society.
    1. +3
      24 September 2013 10: 01
      Quote: Duelist
      GDP is engaged in verbiage in the best traditions of the Humpbacked ....
      And he does the washing of eyes and ears because of rising tension in society.

      Tin !!!
      laughing
      1. New Russia
        0
        24 September 2013 14: 28
        Do you disagree with this?)
    2. -2
      24 September 2013 17: 31
      Quote: Duelist
      “The free medicine is over.”

      There has never been a free medicine, in any case, everything is out of the pocket of taxpayers.
      Quote: Duelist
      - The collapse of the economy and its complete redistribution into raw materials.

      The fifth economy in the world, the raw material component prevails in exports.
      1. New Russia
        +1
        24 September 2013 19: 13
        The real industry that still remains is not growing for 9 months. The percentage of real industry in the economy has been declining all Putin's years
    3. 0
      24 September 2013 19: 21
      No, the GDP is an angel in the flesh who tirelessly cares for the people's welfare, and around it are solid, traitors, embezzlers, scammers and liars and slime-licks, and he’s nothing athlete, fisherman, hunter, submariner and pilot ... it seems like this or what did i forget?

      They will answer me that with him the country began to live better, pensions have been raised, salaries are increasing, there is warm water, heating is light, the country's borders are unbreakable, that everything just starts to go uphill and I don’t see .... I’m waiting for opponents with patience .
  16. 128mgb
    +7
    24 September 2013 10: 05
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    but that the Russians are divided.

    We are not divided, we are accustomed even in a one-on-one fight and not a bunch on one. Each of us is a bright personality and each one is good in his own way. Maybe Putin does not always act as we would like, but at least he DOES something. Unlike the previous ones.
  17. dmb
    +8
    24 September 2013 10: 22
    My extremely negative attitude towards Putin does not extend to Russian nationalism. The main trouble in our country is the system it is building, based on social inequality. As for nationalism, at least in words, its position is much more sane than that of Svyatenkov. Dear Russian nationalists, what specific measures did Svyatenkov suggest to strengthen the greatness of the Russian people? Well, let's write it down in the Constitution, and what next? Does this "prescription" mean that the Ryazan region will receive the same amount of money as Chechnya? Not at all. Yes, this is possible without "prescription". Here one mighty mind of Russian nationalism suggested closing the Stavropol region. What he means by this is anyone's guess. We can, of course, assume that he is sorry to prohibit other citizens of Russia from acquiring property, studying, being treated, etc. This is certainly possible, but only on one condition, they must all be foreigners. However, in that case, why is this "Russian nationalist" screaming about Great Russia? It seems to me that he is trying to make the dream of a certain Bzezhinsky come true. By the way, the main attractive property in the Stavropol Territory and not only belongs to gentlemen called Muscovites. Will we transfer them to the category of foreigners too?
  18. 0
    24 September 2013 10: 27
    How tired of this natssrach! As if there were no other problems. Provocateurs launch the topic of Russia for Russians and many are underway. At least they realized that some purebred Russians have not been around for a long time. Our people are multinational and thanks to this, talents are not translated in it.
    Do you propose to separate from the Caucasus ?! So we have already been separated from Ukraine. Tomorrow they will provoke mess with Bashkortostan and Tatarstan.
    The fate of Yugoslavia does not remind you of the USSR ?! They are trying to fragment Syria according to the ethnic principle, Iraq.
    Tomorrow what, are we going to put up against the external enemy of the princedom and the khanate ?!
  19. +5
    24 September 2013 10: 37
    Quote: Tartary

    You tell those Russian people (!) Who are running after these scoundrels on the video, shouting "Allahu Akbar", scorching from small arms ...

    absolutely right
    Quote: Valery Neonov
    For example, to come to the Amur Region and help restore everything after the flood, - that’s it will be patriotism! Or just in the language of much ... winked

    You have normal patriotism, no one needs to argue, but why on TV are ads for Help for Victims or paid SMS messages sent, but WHERE is the State? Where are the Patriots Patrons of the Oligarchs and not the people themselves who help but where, The most effective ruler Chechnya with an appeal to the inhabitants to send SMS on 12 exactly to 3 to help the victims, and not in the victory of the mosque.
    1. Valery Neonov
      +3
      24 September 2013 13: 40
      Believe me, no less than yours, I would like to know where are the Patriots Patrons of the Oligarchs ... although the "patriots" in Moscow are all suing, patrons ... I have not heard of such people for a long time, olig ... well, it's clear. Here's to offer our government, yes, transfer at least two monthly salaries to Help the Victims, and close loans to those who suffered ... um ... hi
  20. -4
    24 September 2013 11: 02
    I liked the author's phrase - "This slogan is correct ...".
    Type graciously allowed to conduct this domestic policy!
    Something familiar in the style of presentation and presentation of the material ...
    The Anglo-Saxon-Yusovian roots are clearly traced!
    1. New Russia
      +1
      24 September 2013 13: 45
      Anglo Saxons! They are everywhere! And you can’t help but love Putin, only traitors don’t like him! XD) Are you healthy?
  21. +7
    24 September 2013 11: 34
    A good article is a cry from the soul of a normal Russian person, a lot can be added to it, if honestly the Russian people especially now have become an appendage to all other nationalities that should work and contain everyone but not have their own opinions, etc.
  22. lexe
    +3
    24 September 2013 11: 45
    It is hard to disagree with Stolypin ...
    I think that with a comfortable Russian life in Russia, we will quickly and most importantly build the Eurasian Union on the right footing.
    So there is room for GDP to grow. The groundwork is huge.
  23. +1
    24 September 2013 12: 07
    We are artificially deprived of our homeland. There is no state on earth that would link its fate with the Russian people, Russian culture, and Russian history.


    I remember the Soviet Union collapsed in the same sauce. The author is a clear provocateur and populist. The birch is dead, but his work lives on. In particular, the institute of national strategy
  24. +4
    24 September 2013 12: 11
    If Putin nevertheless decides to bet (and possibly hold on to the same Duma) on normal Russian nationalists who have any really reasonable programs and proposals for solving particular problems, then it will be very good.
    But! Now, unfortunately, there is an unhealthy tendency to "push" to the fore the so-called national democrats from near-bulk and swamp circles, some of which make up a certain (albeit small) percentage of the liberal stubborn opposition that wants to destroy itself in the name of the Russian people. the state, and the other part does not have any intelligible and adequate political program and in fact is close (if not a single whole) to the Kurginians, i.e. virtually controlled by the Kremlin.
    And judging by the comments of the imperials (the right wing of the nationalists) about the national democrats, the national movement is almost completely discredited. Really interesting and intelligible programs are "pushed" deep into the shadows together with their authors ...
    And this demarcation went just with Bolotnaya, when some of the nationalists refused to go to rally under the orange flags
    1. +2
      24 September 2013 17: 19
      Quote: hort
      If Putin still decides to bet (and possibly hold the same Duma) on normal Russian nationalists

      He will never dare to do this and will never do it. Even now, in the regions, his main stake is on "indigenous nationalists." As an example, Mr. Kanokov (President of the KBR). And the "dick" and "general" Kadyrov Jr. from the same opera ...
  25. lexe
    +2
    24 September 2013 12: 25
    You need to understand that Valdai is an international party. And the tough position on the Russian issue there for the current government is not politically correct today.
    For this we need separate meetings, for example, in Ryazan ...
    And for the rest of the people meeting ...
    I think Putin will be in time everywhere laughing
    Only now in Ryazan ... I would like to hear not another stream of correct phrases and thoughts.
    But it’s still necessary to bring the national question to the international arena, but first Ryazan ...
    In addition, it is enough to calculate how many Russians Russia lost in the 20th century. and the world, horrified, will quietly agree that the Russian people, as the most affected, deserve a better life.
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  27. 0
    24 September 2013 12: 56
    I'm thinking about winked
    Seven dozens of people supported the article by a fellow nationalist and political scientist Svyatenkov.
    And a thread can open my eyes what comrade Svyatenkov offers do Putin?
    Why did he turn to him, sobbing, then shouting different slogans?
    Or WHAT should power do? Make libraries go at the end of the work week? Or maybe finally make everyone learn the Russian language?
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    2. +1
      24 September 2013 20: 14
      And this only proves once again that on this supposedly patriotic site, the internationalists - supporters of Belkovsky, Berezovsky and et cetera, dug in. By the way, did they notice that they minus the minus, but do not put forward sensible and balanced counterarguments?
      1. Arabist
        +2
        24 September 2013 20: 17
        But who argues. I saw how many minuses they threw? wink
  28. New Russia
    +5
    24 September 2013 12: 56
    It is striking that there are still articles calling such articles "enemy" like any criticism of Putin. Only durak does not see that the country is on the brink of an abyss thanks to the "wise leadership" of Putin. According to the UN, 11 million migrants are responsible for 130000 heroin deaths a year, half of the rapes, and the displacement of Russians from our land. Russians in their own country have no rights, the government spits on us and our opinion. What, Russians, are you against migrants? The visa regime is "a tough and incomprehensible measure, but there is nothing wrong with replacing Russians," the chief executive officer for migration answers. Well, Putin, as usual, has nothing to do with it)
    1. +2
      24 September 2013 13: 27
      Quote: New Russia
      ... Only durak does not see that the country is on the brink of an abyss thanks to the "wise leadership" of Putin. ...

      Only a guy can think that a country is on the brink of an abyss. Look at Ukraine, look well and remember - this is the possible future of Russia without Putin.
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      2. New Russia
        +1
        24 September 2013 13: 36
        Russia without Putin will fall apart. This horror story is needed so that he and his gang with the oligarchs continue to rob and destroy the people. Putin is an ordinary person who is not capable or rather does not want to change anything
      3. 0
        24 September 2013 13: 55
        Nick - New Russia. The name is Kenneth Chachran. Bgggg. And he fights with migrants and Putin.
        It would have been called at least Fanny Kaplan, and that would have been more fun. Another trololo to add oil to the fire.
        1. New Russia
          +3
          24 September 2013 14: 02
          Think what you want, I don’t discuss with the fanatics) You have a funny Putin’s reserve here looking at you) The situation with migrants is catastrophic, but you don’t see anything and think that it’s agents of the State Department that kindle you) You can consider me an agent, I’ll even laugh)
          1. +1
            24 September 2013 20: 27
            It's funny when people like you start to worry about "the fate of Russia." What did Konstantin Sergeevich say there? "I do not believe"?
    2. faint27
      +1
      24 September 2013 14: 01
      Do not be surprised at this site does not accept any criticism of GDP))) Immediately a bunch of minuses, apparently ardent Putinists are sitting here!
      1. New Russia
        +1
        24 September 2013 14: 08
        We will treatXD)
    3. -4
      24 September 2013 14: 14
      I add that many support Navalny, not because they like him, but because Putin leads the country to death. But Navalny, at least in words, is for RUSSIANs, and Putin is for non-Russians and multinationals and other migrants. If some politician is to prove that he is for the Russians, then I am ready to support him, do not care if he is bulk or Satan himself.
      Russia IS THE STATE OF RUSSIANS and of those peoples to which RUSSIANS have graciously been allowed to live on their territory. That is how it should be.
      1. New Russia
        +1
        24 September 2013 14: 24
        I agree with you, but it’s better not to go on what’s on the surface and what they’re slipping on to us) We need to take power ourselves and Navalny’s muddy type who himself admitted that the families are friends with the Yeltsins and Gaidars. Of course, Russia is our land, and we won the wrong place to give the barbarians and the Russophobic power that does not listen to the people. The people decide NOTHING as in the occupied territory
        1. +2
          24 September 2013 18: 17
          Quote: New Russia
          We need to take power ourselves and Navalny is a muddy type who himself admitted that the families are friends with the Yeltsins and Gaidars.

          It doesn’t matter who calls for barricades and rallies ... Bulk fuck, fuck Fedorov, who the fuck ...
          In the process, there will be a reason and quiet people whom we don’t know today or know who will turn things around as they did in 1905 ...

          It is necessary to stop being cattle and fight any devil by other methods, but not at all by huge rallies and barricades - this is the lot of cattle, and not of the Russian people educated for more than a hundred years.

          What is there to prove !? To whom it is unbearable - take Gorky into your arms and read at your leisure ...
      2. New Russia
        0
        24 September 2013 14: 29
        Oops! (Minus randomly (
        1. +5
          24 September 2013 14: 40
          Bulk really muddy type. It may turn out to be the second Nemtsov (a rag and a thief), or it may be the new Hitler (model before the 1939 year, Hitler who raised Germany from the ruins) or Roosevelt. Who will be Navalny, become he president, I do not know.
          But it is already clear to me that Putin is either a layman or a hidden enemy in domestic politics. Migrants poured in under Putin. 6 years ago loudly broadcast about nanotechnology and nat. projects "Affordable Housing". And then they quietly stopped mentioning everything. Skolkovo ... and silence again. Right now they will invent something else.
          Putin has been in power for 14 years. Enough.
      3. +3
        24 September 2013 18: 08
        Quote: Kibalchish
        I add that many support Navalny, not because they like him, but because Putin leads the country to death. But Navalny, at least in words, is for RUSSIANs, and Putin is for non-Russians and multinationals and other migrants. If some politician is to prove that he is for the Russians, then I am ready to support him, do not care if he is bulk or Satan himself.


        Or what pop Gapon ... fool

        I began to re-read Gorky - well, I read straight and goosebumps ... It looks like the 1905th ... But after all, a little more than a century has passed, but most no longer remember the cause-effect relationships ...

        What HASPAD, on the barricades !? Do you want the smell of blood to breathe? And then the grass doesn’t grow ??
        Again to the bottom, and then ......... ??

        But what kind of another quality of the "boat" called Russia can dip those involved in water forever ...

        Maybe, with all the antipathies, we agree that Putin is not pumping at all?

        Turn on your brain - any call "to the barricades" or rallies against something can become the last shot not only for Russia, but also for you and your loved ones ...
        But for the smokers, you (we), all one cannon fodder, which we have in mind, about which none of the screamers, will regret after ...

        Edited - here it is downstairs, one of them ... He is hungry for power ... Ugh!
    4. -1
      24 September 2013 14: 35
      John McCain: Putin spreads lies


      New Russia
      Only durak does not see that the country is on the brink of an abyss thanks to the "wise leadership" of Putin.


      The coincidence of thought touches.
      1. New Russia
        +2
        24 September 2013 14: 37
        Only the dim-witted touches. You better listen to economists and demographers than McCain and Putin who PR. No opinion?)
        1. 0
          24 September 2013 17: 37
          Quote: New Russia
          You better listen to economists and demographers

          And how many children do you have as a guardian of demography?
          1. New Russia
            0
            24 September 2013 17: 54
            I have a daughter)
            1. 0
              24 September 2013 18: 05
              Quote: New Russia
              I have a daughter)

              Why only one child? By youth or by laziness?
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              2. New Russia
                +2
                24 September 2013 18: 34
                I am 23 and I get 7000 at school.
                1. 0
                  24 September 2013 20: 31
                  In which school? What do you teach?
  29. In the reeds
    +2
    24 September 2013 13: 27
    Quote: alexneg
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    They can. But for some reason they are paid in different ways, and the demand is also different.


    Only two things are sold in the world: information and labor. And when we get a job we are evaluated according to the work performed - labor or intellectual effectiveness, i.e. salary is our value. Everything, nothing else in the world is for sale. So draw conclusions. And a person who gnaws at envy will never be provided even with the minimum benefits until he gets rid of this vice. By the way, envy only harms a person who is jealous. He robs himself of what he envies. This is the law of Nature and it works regardless of whether a person believes in it or not.

    Usually I try not to interfere in internal Russian showdowns, but by simple law, that I said my mom and dad in Russian, I will let them tell you ... After the war, on a Jewish collective farm, which is no longer such (Ostrovskoye village collective farm "Lenin's Way" ) my grandmother on passover bought a pig's head to feed five children once a year at least some meat ... And my eldest aunt, years later, told how my grandmother cried and said "God will understand everything" When democracy turns into show business there Christ will not be appreciated he did not know how to dance, like Borya in the elections, and if he could, he wouldn’t have a market price ... Sincerely.
    1. 0
      24 September 2013 18: 23
      Quote: In the reeds
      And my eldest aunt, over the years, told how my grandmother cried and said, "God will understand everything." When democracy turns into Show-Business, Christ will not be appreciated there, he did not know how to dance like Borya in the elections, and if he knew how, he would not have a market price ...

      Are you talking about Christ, as a Christian, as a Jew, or as an atheist in the commentary?

      This is a serious question. Give answer.
  30. +3
    24 September 2013 14: 01
    The main problem of the Russian people, as nationalists see it, is that the Russians are officially homeless and stateless people. We are artificially deprived of the motherland. There is no state on earth that would link its fate with the Russian people, Russian culture, Russian history.what nonsense is the homeland of a Russian person is the territory of the Russian Federation from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok
    1. faint27
      0
      24 September 2013 14: 09
      ... and where is it written? must be enshrined in the Constitution!
  31. faint27
    +2
    24 September 2013 14: 05
    A robust and balanced article that raises to the surface our real problems, which the current government prefers not to notice or suppresses.
  32. +2
    24 September 2013 14: 14
    The author correctly wrote that in principle there is a place to be. Well, who, tell me, will the line in the Constitution that the Russians are the defining nation of Russia hurt? With respect for oneself, a creative, spiritually developed and efficient person begins. And without the support of the authorities, law enforcement agencies and laws, the population can easily be plunged into moral stagnation. It is very real to deceive people with moral attacks on the psyche. As in prisons and in the army they break I think people are well aware of people. So only Russophobes and vagrants, who have no place in this thread, can run into the author of an article (such as Russians anyway) - it’s not written about you anyway.
    1. +2
      24 September 2013 17: 41
      Quote: Manul
      With self-respect, a creative, spiritually developed and efficient person begins.

      So you do not respect yourself without a line in the constitution, sadness, this line will not help you and will not add self-esteem.
  33. +1
    24 September 2013 14: 26
    It seems to me that all nationalism began in Russia when the Bolsheviks national republics than laid a time bomb under the state.
    1. New Russia
      +2
      24 September 2013 14: 41
      Russia has always been for the Russians emperors and writers, leaders of the USSR, but this did not abrogate the rights to live here for other peaceful friendly peoples. What the Russophobian authorities are doing will not end well for them
    2. +4
      24 September 2013 14: 45
      The direction of nationalism is important, for which it (for example: for the homeland or for the Russians, for such a nation, for rallying with it (Slovenes), or against what (against: someone). It depends on it that it brings together or destroying .
      "At its core, nationalism preaches loyalty and devotion to its nation, political independence and work for the benefit of its own people, cultural and spiritual growth, the unification of national identity for the practical protection of the living conditions of the nation, its territory of residence, economic resources and spiritual values. It is based on national a feeling that is akin to patriotism. "
      So, dear, it was not the Bolsheviks that they were against the bourgeoisie and for the unification of the proletarians of all countries.
      To love your homeland, your people is also a manifestation of nationalism and patriotism!
      1. New Russia
        +1
        24 September 2013 14: 52
        But they did not try to destroy the Russians after the Stalinist purge of the Jews. opposition and nationalism are inextricable, there is only the difference between a simple separation and recognition of oneself as Russian and hatred of others. But the opposition to varying degrees must be
  34. +1
    24 September 2013 14: 44
    but in general it’s a minus article, the author himself sees a terry nationalist, damn me, I never heard someone say that Russia is not for Russians, I certainly don’t know how things are in Tatarstan or where else, but when I served in the army I observed an interesting thing , representatives of 54 nationalities served in our regiment, and representatives of almost all national republics, and as usual there was hazing that the Russians always promoted, so representatives of the Caucasian republics among which there were not a few Russians did not give their offense, the same situation was and with representatives of the Republic of Buryatia, Irkutsk Oblast, Tuva Republic, the Republic of Sakha, etc., that is, representatives of these republics did not leave their Russians in trouble and kept together in every way regardless of nationality, we also laughed with the boys and the Russians Dagestanis, Russian Tatars, and Russian Buryats, I saw such nationalism smile
    1. New Russia
      +1
      24 September 2013 14: 50
      Do not confuse nationalism with Nazism for a normal person. Nationalism and the separation of peoples and their protection is normal.
      1. 0
        24 September 2013 17: 09
        Quote: New Russia
        Do not confuse nationalism with Nazism for a normal person. Nationalism and the separation of peoples and their protection is normal.

        And I always thought it was necessary to protect Russia, it turns out only Muscovy ....
    2. +1
      24 September 2013 15: 07
      Quote: 020205
      As usual there was hazing that the Russians always promoted, and so representatives of the Caucasian republics, among whom there were not a few Russians, did not give their offense

      And we had it, but we beat the faces of those who scoffed at their own people and those who covered themselves with shobly. Because we are RUSSIAN. After that, in part, foulness at times disappeared.
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  36. 0
    24 September 2013 15: 08
    Quote: New Russia
    Do not confuse nationalism with Nazism for a normal person. Nationalism and the separation of peoples and their protection is normal.

    and it turns out that there is some kind of Nazism, how division of peoples can be normal in our country, or maybe something is wrong for me? The article argues that they say they oppress and insult the Russians, they play on national feelings, so to speak, Germany at one time Hitler played on the infringed feelings of the Germans for the defeat in the First World War, like this is how we are the descendants of the great Aryans and all of us are exceptional and some subhuman people defeated us and infringe on our national interests
    1. New Russia
      +1
      24 September 2013 16: 37
      What does superiority have to do with it? In our country, all rights must be ours
      1. +1
        24 September 2013 17: 56
        Quote: New Russia
        What does superiority have to do with it? In our country, all rights must be ours

        Specify which rights do you need? The right to kill non-Russians?
        1. New Russia
          0
          24 September 2013 18: 28
          Yes, if they are greyhound. This is my right in my land
          1. +2
            24 September 2013 21: 46
            Quote: New Russia
            Yes, if they are greyhound
            Class, do not like dunk ...
            Watering and others know how. ,,
            How to people to hunt, and not fought, as a rule.
  37. chushoj
    +2
    24 September 2013 15: 11
    I can imagine what would happen if the GDP at least once squeezed out that Russia was for Russians and the priority would be the revival of Russian culture?
    1. New Russia
      +3
      24 September 2013 15: 13
      No need to hope that it is impossible) We must finally understand who he is and act accordingly)
  38. +4
    24 September 2013 15: 16
    So the selection came in handy. Great people about the Russian people
    1. New Russia
      +1
      24 September 2013 15: 19
      Is it possible to imagine that someone from the current shameful figures would say this?)
      1. +1
        24 September 2013 15: 34
        Instead of national pride (nationalism), their pluralism has grown!
      2. 0
        24 September 2013 17: 11
        Quote: New Russia
        Is it possible to imagine that someone from the current shameful figures would say this?)

        For them, Russia was, the entire Russian Empire, And not individual provinces.
    2. -2
      25 September 2013 12: 22
      Russia for Russians and in Russian


      According to one version, the statement belongs to Gringmouth Waldemar, a German, a Protestant and .... leader of the Black Hundreds. By the way, this is similar to all opponents of Putin - even with the devil, but against GDP. You need to form a party, not some monarchist, nationalist, liberal, democratic, but the party of Putin’s opponents (PPP). By the way, it will be interesting to see the lists of members - Navalny, Alekseev, Chirikov, McCain, Nemtsov, Belov (Potkin, by the way, is not a very suitable surname for a patriot), etc., etc.
      The company is a feast for the eyes. Anyone who likes to watch performances on Bolotnaya Square is in the know. Well, from local commentators, you can recruit "every creature in a couple" - "teachers" who teach nowhere, "officers" who have never served anywhere, "doctors" who have not treated anyone except themselves. Now minus. Funny to watch
  39. New Russia
    0
    24 September 2013 15: 31
    State Department agents foment: 52% of the population consider all migrants to be murderers and rapists http://deita.ru/society/v-rossii_24.09.2013_846889_nenavist-rossijan-k-migrantam
    -rastet-s-kazhdym-dnem.html # ixzz2fnal7800
    1. FIRE
      0
      24 September 2013 15: 34
      Quote: New Russia
      State Department Agents Kindle

      Hope this is sarcasm?
      1. New Russia
        +1
        24 September 2013 15: 47
        Of course) Although here some are not joking)
  40. FIRE
    +7
    24 September 2013 15: 32
    All the misfortunes of the Russian People in their native land are due to the fact that the current government in Russia is RUSSOPHOBIAN in nature. Look at the top of it - completely crosses and half-breeds.



    The question of the survival of the Russian ethnic group in Russia (survival in the literal sense of the word - physical) is question of power.
    We Russians are faced with a historical choice - either to change the anti-Russian power in the country (by any means), or (like the ancient Romans) to go into oblivion.
    1. Arabist
      -1
      24 September 2013 15: 37
      And what do you suggest? Armed rebellion?
      1. FIRE
        +5
        24 September 2013 15: 39
        If the state becomes a criminal - the right to be a judge belongs to every citizen.
        1. Arabist
          -2
          24 September 2013 15: 50
          So far, your actions can be regarded as a call for extremist activity. Imprisonment for up to 5 years, Article 280 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
          1. FIRE
            0
            24 September 2013 16: 02
            Quote: Arabist
            While your actions ...

            This is just for now.
            1. Arabist
              -5
              24 September 2013 16: 05
              Well, then I was not mistaken. Do you want a civil war?
              1. FIRE
                +5
                24 September 2013 16: 17
                Quote: Arabist
                Do you want a civil war?

                We Russians want the Russian President, the Russian government and the Russian National State.

                Z.Y. And further.
                We want to live in a country in which in every Russian educated family there are at least 3 children who are not afraid to let go on the street. In which ethnic crime - Caucasian and Central Asian violence, gypsy drug mafia, Jewish debauchery and financial and economic fraud - a black (in all senses) story. In a state that respects you and takes care of you.
                1. Arabist
                  -4
                  24 September 2013 16: 19
                  We all know where the road is paved with good intentions. As a lawyer, I do not advise you to engage in extremism.
                  1. FIRE
                    +1
                    24 September 2013 16: 27
                    Quote: Arabist
                    We all know where the road is paved with good intentions.

                    We all see where our people (Russians) are led by the current regime.
                    The Kosovo lesson was not in vain.
                    1. Arabist
                      -1
                      24 September 2013 16: 31
                      History only teaches that it never teaches anyone. Look at Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen. Is it not there that the golden age has come after the collapse of the regime?
                      1. FIRE
                        +2
                        24 September 2013 16: 46
                        Quote: Arabist
                        Look at Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen. Is it not there that the golden age has come after the collapse of the regime?

                        Well, yes, well, yes, familiar. "Russia without Putin? Apocalypse tomorrow!"



                        Especially delivered at 1:40 - "clash of fascists and ethnic mafia"
                        This happens if you are against the ethnic mafia - you are a fascist (Russian, of course, what else)!
                        Here it is your Russophobian, anti-Russian regime, does not even think about encrypting.

                        Z.Y. what are you r **** us
                      2. Arabist
                        -5
                        24 September 2013 16: 51
                        Do you even know what fascism means and where it originated? People like you come together in groups, start to worry, thinking for some reason that they will feel good, and then at the end comes a gloomy bearded man with a gun. And learn Russian, Russophobic mode is written with 1 letter c.
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                      4. New Russia
                        +3
                        24 September 2013 16: 53
                        The main thing is that the Foschists do not touch the ethnic mafia. That’s scary! Clash without Putin)
                      5. Dober
                        +5
                        24 September 2013 17: 44
                        Quote: Arabist
                        Look at Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen. Is it not there that the golden age has come after the collapse of the regime?

                        And who spoke about the "collapse of the regime" as destruction?
                        I "heard" something else. And the "mode" let it stay, that's just where it is "LEADS"?
                        It’s no secret that, thanks to the policy of multiculturalism, political correctness, and other tolerance, a stream of migrants from Asia and the Caucasus poured into Russia, and this policy belongs to Jews. However, Jews are involved in the USA and Europe, "building a common globalization space" with world government. Naturally, the entrance to such reforms will be unhappy, especially among strong independent nations, but when the protest process can become uncontrollable, it is better to head it (a well-known Jewish method).
                        New programs, such as "Finding the Future", "Strategy 2020", are another deliberate step towards killing the Russian people and a new influx of migrants, but from Africa, Arabs, Turks, Chinese, and, as it is written in these Jewish programs, they will be given lifting. These programs were written by Jews Yasin, Greenberg, Gontmakher, Golts, Mau, Yurgens, etc.
                        An example of europium for Raseyan rulers is not a lesson?
                        The failure of the policy of multiculturalism or the construction of a Jewish civil society of the type - we are "human" and no matter the type, who is of what nationality and faith, is clearly visible in Europe. The current Kremlin Jewish (junta?) With Putin and his dwarf is leading our country into the same trap of globalization, which will turn out badly for everyone.

                        Shl. As a lawyer ... Don't scare with articles. We must understand that (without taking into account the possible ways to hide in the net) it is practically impossible to "fasten" a particular person to what he supposedly wrote.
                      6. Arabist
                        -3
                        24 September 2013 18: 00
                        No need to teach me how to work. Absolute invulnerability as well as anonymity on the Internet is a myth.
                      7. shpuntik
                        0
                        24 September 2013 19: 16
                        Lieutenant colonel
                        Arabist RU Today, 18:00 ↑
                        No need to teach me how to work. Absolute invulnerability as well as anonymity on the Internet is a myth.

                        It's good to be warned of the danger, thanks. But, we all know that "the law is that the tongue, where it turned, went there." Or: "there would be a man-article." And when the business is "sewn", it is not only literally, but figuratively.
                        Interestingly, what about the inverted sensors on the Proton?
                        Or unprepared for the season reservoirs of the Bureyskaya and Zeyskaya state district power plants?
                      8. shpuntik
                        +1
                        24 September 2013 19: 19
                        Dober (4) SU Today, 17:44 ↑
                        In the same way, the Jews are (were) in the US and Europe, "building a single globalization space" with the world government.

                        Vadim hi I will support:
                    2. -3
                      24 September 2013 17: 13
                      Quote: FIRE
                      We all see where our people (Russians) are led by the current regime.
                      The Kosovo lesson was not in vain.

                      Don't you think that you are trying to transfer the "Kosovo Lesson" to Russia?
                      1. New Russia
                        +4
                        24 September 2013 17: 17
                        Are we trying to transfer?) And when in a certain region of Russians the barbarians will go to earth, will we also be to blame for the Foschists?)
                2. +1
                  24 September 2013 16: 46
                  Quote: FIRE
                  We Russians want the Russian President, the Russian government and the Russian National State.

                  I’m interested in the borders of such a state where I’ll go through. A little further from the Moscow Ring Road or what?
                  We want to live in a country in which every Russian educated family has at least 3 children,

                  How much do you have? Or will they give birth in order?
                  In which ethnic crime - Caucasian and Central Asian violence, gypsy drug mafia,

                  But what about Russian crime?

                  Although I myself am Russian, but only here we still have a lot to learn from the same Caucasians. At least they don’t leave their children, their children do not drive their parents out of the house.
                  1. New Russia
                    +1
                    24 September 2013 16: 52
                    Borders on the Caucasus and no need to repeat stupid things about the collapse of the Tatars and we all live normally
                    1. -2
                      24 September 2013 17: 22
                      Quote: New Russia
                      Borders on the Caucasus and no need to repeat stupid things about the collapse of the Tatars and we all live normally

                      After the Caucasus, we will find other enemies, because there must be someone to blame ...
                      1. New Russia
                        0
                        24 September 2013 17: 34
                        Tatarsikh and Mordovian organized crime groups do not exist in nature. Strange why?
                      2. -2
                        24 September 2013 17: 43
                        Quote: New Russia
                        Tatarsikh and Mordovian organized crime groups do not exist in nature. Strange why?
                        Me in the 90s, people came to bomb with bats and trunks, purely Russian brothers and did not observe anyone else ...
                        Look at the statistics of the killings, who will become clear even then.
                        Each murder of a Russian by Caucasians, we know how many of them will be typed 2,3,4 per year, but who committed the rest of the several thousand? Would you answer?
                        Fools are everywhere, but for some reason it is customary to pay attention exclusively to some, completely ignoring the others.
                      3. New Russia
                        0
                        24 September 2013 18: 24
                        Every second rape is perpetrated by migrants. 11 million migrants per 130 million Russian Tatars and others
                      4. Arabist
                        -2
                        24 September 2013 18: 27
                        And where is such data written?
                      5. New Russia
                        0
                        24 September 2013 18: 47
                        http://www.rosbalt.ru/moscow/2013/02/01/1088488.html
                      6. Arabist
                        0
                        24 September 2013 19: 23
                        And this is state. website? Do you know that in Germany crime is higher than in Russia according to official figures?
                  2. +4
                    24 September 2013 18: 14
                    You know little about the Caucasus, but clanism, and the position of a woman in the family, and not only ... It was from there that murderers and terrorists came to blow up houses in Moscow and other cities. From there comes violence and lawlessness. You pay attention to their mentality, but you yourself do not want to live by their rules!
                    Be proud of your Homeland, respect your fellow citizens, and do not say that we are a third-rate people! We are the best, fair, free and not at all slaves! And there are plenty of black sheep everywhere, but we are not a herd and we will NEVER bow our heads to anyone!
                    1. 0
                      24 September 2013 19: 02
                      Quote: Duelist
                      You know little about the Caucasus, but clanism, and the position of a woman in the family, and not only ... It was from there that murderers and terrorists came to blow up houses in Moscow and other cities.

                      Terrorists go from the west, to the money of the west.
                      1. FIRE
                        +1
                        24 September 2013 19: 11
                        Quote: Setrac

                        Terrorists are coming from the west ...

                        but their faces are Caucasian
                      2. +1
                        24 September 2013 19: 45
                        Quote: FIRE
                        but their faces are Caucasian

                        They have all kinds of faces
                      3. New Russia
                        +3
                        24 September 2013 21: 03
                        C'mon!) Post a picture of at least one non-Caucasian or Azit Islamist geek)
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                      6. Arabist
                        0
                        24 September 2013 21: 14
                        Handsome, huh?
                      7. 0
                        24 September 2013 22: 02
                        Quote: New Russia
                        C'mon!) Post a picture of at least one non-Caucasian or Azit Islamist geek)

                        Their faces are mainly Qatari, Saudi and so on and so forth.
          2. Arabist
            -3
            24 September 2013 16: 12
            Minus? Yes, you commit a criminal offense and you still put the pluses.
            1. New Russia
              +1
              24 September 2013 16: 18
              Illegal power illegal laws
              1. Arabist
                +1
                24 September 2013 16: 20
                How is this law contrary to the Constitution?
                1. New Russia
                  +1
                  24 September 2013 16: 38
                  And what does the constitution have to do with it?) By the way, it’s also illegal
                  1. Arabist
                    -3
                    24 September 2013 16: 41
                    And despite the fact that a law can be "illegal" only if it contradicts the Constitution of the Russian Federation. And why is it "illegal"?
                    1. New Russia
                      +2
                      24 September 2013 16: 50
                      The fact that it was adopted by Yeltsino Gaidaro Chubaisoid)
                      1. Arabist
                        +1
                        24 September 2013 16: 54
                        And is that evidence? The constitution was adopted at a popular referendum and one of its authors, Zorkin, is very respected among lawyers. And not Chubais and others.
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                      3. Arabist
                        0
                        24 September 2013 17: 26
                        I defend the law, this is my duty by profession.
                      4. New Russia
                        +3
                        24 September 2013 17: 26
                        Will you defend the 90s now?) Of course, it’s especially because the Putin government consists of the students of Gaidar and Chubais Ulyukaev and others
                      5. New Russia
                        0
                        24 September 2013 18: 25
                        What are we minus? Is it true that it hurts my eyes? Or now a new installation to justify Gaidar and Chubais?)
                      6. -3
                        24 September 2013 21: 52
                        Quote: New Russia
                        What are we minus? Is it true that it hurts my eyes? Or now a new installation to justify Gaidar and Chubais?)
                        Keep your fantasies about Chubais.
                        And what is minus, so I do not care who calls for blood to be shed: Russian Chechens, Tatars, Americans ...
                      7. New Russia
                        +2
                        24 September 2013 22: 09
                        C'mon) Putin didn’t cover Chubais on a straight line and he doesn’t cut our money now?) Hmm ... Believe me, it’s more convenient for you)
  41. +1
    24 September 2013 15: 34
    Quote: Duelist
    Quote: 020205
    As usual there was hazing that the Russians always promoted, and so representatives of the Caucasian republics, among whom there were not a few Russians, did not give their offense

    And we had it, but we beat the faces of those who scoffed at their own people and those who covered themselves with shobly. Because we are RUSSIAN. After that, in part, foulness at times disappeared.

    I mean that everything is not so bad as they try to imagine that they say that Russians are everywhere oppressed and survive ...
    1. New Russia
      +2
      24 September 2013 15: 49
      Come to Stavropol ...
    2. +4
      24 September 2013 16: 05
      It is not necessary to turn a blind eye to the events in Kondopoga, Sagra, Demyanov, Pugachev, Udoml and many more. Power takes the side of bandits protecting them and punishing them for self-defense - is this not a characteristic of power?
      If you protected your family, wife, old people, children and were not killed by a bandit, then in the eyes of the authorities you are a criminal!
      The rise of nationalism is a natural response to the criminal world, even if it is patronized by power.
      Quote: BigRiver
      The GDP is engaged in verbiage in the best traditions of the HORROBATH .... .... And he does the washing of eyes and ears because of the rising tension in society.

      But, the government should severely punish the bandits, retaliation must be quick and fair, otherwise it breaks its foundations and sooner or later it will be cleared of the abomination that has penetrated into it.
  42. lilit.193
    +6
    24 September 2013 18: 21
    In general, everything is correctly written in the article! As something "Chechen" or "Dagestan" there, then it is called "national identity", and as something "Russian", then it is already "nationalism" and "fascism".

    Not quite the topic will continue. Yesterday I watched a program with a very expressive title "Kadyrov's Heart". She sat cursed and spat, but watched to the end. And he is so good and good-looking and just uti-little thing. And immediately I wanted to rip out the tongue of this journalist who was making this PR badag!

    And you say that not a word about the Russians. While they will glorify on the screens the bandits who killed the Russians, they will not talk about the Russians themselves.
    1. FIRE
      +4
      24 September 2013 18: 43
      Quote: lilit.193
      Yesterday I watched a program with a very expressive title "Kadyrov's Heart". She sat cursed and spat, but watched to the end. And he is so good and handsome and just uti-pushechka ..... While they will glorify on the screens the bandits who killed the Russians, they will not talk about the Russians themselves.

      Also not quite in the subject.
      Recently I watched the film "Zero Visibility", about the elimination of Bin Laden.
      How torturers torture the Taliban in their prisons! Ay beauty !!!
      Then I thought: if only a Chechen man would be tortured like that. I would immediately remember: where, how, and for what, in 1992-93 he killed the first Russian at the age of 16.

      Z.Y. all the same, we have something to learn from the amers, in this case, what to do with our ENEMIES.
    2. New Russia
      +3
      24 September 2013 18: 45
      They are trying to destroy our Russian identity only by polls, on the contrary, they won’t succeed, we are Russians and not Russians!
      1. 0
        24 September 2013 19: 06
        Quote: New Russia
        They are trying to destroy our Russian identity only by polls, on the contrary, they won’t succeed, we are Russians and not Russians!

        Do you deny Russians the right to be citizens of the Russian Federation? What kind of insanity?
  43. +1
    24 September 2013 18: 25
    Quote: sven27
    ... and where is it written? must be enshrined in the Constitution!

    It is written in your passport, more precisely on it, with a competent reading, we will find there an inscription above the coat of arms of the Russian Federation or on the title page, the passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation
  44. serge
    +4
    24 September 2013 18: 36
    Arabist
    Do you even know what fascism means and where it originated?
    ---------------------------
    Fascism is the idea of ​​national exclusivity, the superiority of one nation over others, and on the basis of this proclaimed superiority propagandizing deception, robbery, violence and murder of all other nations except the chosen one. Fascism as an idea originated in the Jewish environment and was first formulated by the Jews in Jewish scripture and a guide for Jews - the Talmud, where Jews are proclaimed the chosen nation, moreover, only Jews are proclaimed human beings, and all the rest are animals with respect to which you can do anything . Subsequently, fascism was partially copied by the Nazis, but the palm is exclusively Jewish and cannot be disputed among Jews.
    1. Arabist
      -4
      24 September 2013 18: 39
      Was fascism not born in Italy in the 20s? Or again, if there is no water in the tap, the Jews drank water?
      1. serge
        +3
        24 September 2013 18: 58
        No, the postulates of fascism were formulated in the Jewish Talmud, where it originated.

        Quotes from the Jewish Talmud and Torah:

        The Torah says: in case of danger, if you can’t save everyone, first save the Jew, then the cattle, then the goy.
        "Whoever slaps a Jew in the face is guilty, as if he slapped the divine majesty" [Tr. Sanh. f. 58, 2].
        the goy who strikes the Jew is worthy of the death penalty [Tr. Sanh. f. 58, 2]
        "In the world there is a difference in the superiority of one thing over another, plants and animals do not do without man taking care of them, and as man in the world stands high above animals, so Jews stand high above all nations in the world [Zeror. f. 101, 2].
        "the seed of a man is not a Jew, it is an animal seed." [Jeban. f. 94, 2 Tos.]
        "... the coffins of the goyim (goim) did not defile Israel (the Jewish coffins), since only Jews: people, other nations have the properties of beasts [Tr. Babam. f.114,2], come from animals."
        "they (holidays) are established for Jews, not for foreigners, not for dogs" [Tr. Megilla 7, 2].
        "The houses of the goyim (goim) - the houses of the animals" [Leb. tobf. 46, 1].
        A woman, not Jewish, is an animal, preached by Rabbi Abarbanel [Matk. h. inp. tawo].
        "As far as other people are superior to other animals, the Jews are also superior to all the peoples of the world." (Tseror Gammor, 101, 2)
        "Light was created only for the Jews; they are the fruit, and all other nations are only its shell." (Shene Luhof gabberif 145,3)
        "Children of a non-Jew cannot even be equated with illegal children or idiots of Jewish origin" (Eben gazhetser, § 26, 1, § 16, I, § 1, 1, 3, 6 and 7, Iore vezha, § 269, 1 Tr . Jebamot 22).
        "It is forbidden for you to eat, but you can give it up to be eaten by a stranger living among you, or sell it to a Lenakhri, a non-believer." (Deut. 14:21) ".
        "A Jew is forbidden to steal anything from either another Jew or a goy; but to deceive a goy, for example," fooling "him when calculating (the Chaldean uses the same word as above: ma'uf = to deceive), or not to pay him the debt, it is permitted, only one must be careful so that the deed is not revealed and this does not defile the Name of the Lord. " (Shulchan Aruch)

        In Italy, Talmudism was called fascism and tried on Italians with some variations. In our country, traditionally, fascism means its Germanic branch, which is XNUMX% consistent with that formulated by the Jews.
  45. +2
    24 September 2013 18: 49
    Repost: "You have to think with your head, not ...."

    http://politobzor.net/show-5199-i-snova-evgeniy-fedorov-davayte-razberemsya.html



    Continued -
    http://politobzor.net/show-5199-i-snova-evgeniy-fedorov-davayte-razberemsya.html



    In the likes of this topic of ours, the people of Russia are swinging ...
    All sorts of masters (!) Of the WORLD are preparing us for the repetition of 1905 ...

    Although, I admit, more recently, I considered E. Fedorov to be almost the messiah ...

    Today I was already thinking ... And there is something.

    I recommend reading it.
    1. New Russia
      +1
      24 September 2013 19: 23
      Delyagin ... ral Fedorov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL5WRF1-3M8&feature=c4-overview&list=UUzeB5UpVvXb
      yBpLO7SFXg_g
      1. Arabist
        -3
        24 September 2013 19: 25
        I wonder what the school teacher hopes to argue with the lawyer.
        1. New Russia
          0
          24 September 2013 20: 49
          Medvedev is also a lawyer and even a schoolboy can argue him)
          1. Arabist
            0
            24 September 2013 20: 52
            Lawyer lawyer strife. You turn out to put it mildly not very.
            1. FIRE
              +3
              24 September 2013 21: 12
              You, hike, and "dad is a lawyer"
              1. Arabist
                +3
                24 September 2013 21: 16
                Not you, but you. And it does not concern you.
            2. New Russia
              +2
              24 September 2013 21: 21
              And in my opinion you will not succeed)
              1. Arabist
                0
                24 September 2013 21: 24
                And what? I see you are a liberal fanatic either. The eagle does not catch flies
                Aquila non captat muscas
                1. New Russia
                  +1
                  24 September 2013 21: 29
                  Liberal?) And I see a stupid person who sincerely believes that everyone who hates Putin is liberal) And you probably don’t know what kind of people are in the government?) Read the biography and who they all were in the 90s and who they worked for) Ulyukaev deputy Gaidar for example)
                  1. Arabist
                    -1
                    24 September 2013 21: 33
                    Surprisingly, I communicate with associate professors and professors and everything about me is of high opinion. And then you give me an assessment. Are you used to school?
                    1. New Russia
                      +2
                      24 September 2013 22: 12
                      Yes) Essentially nothing to say about the liberal government?)
                      1. Arabist
                        -1
                        24 September 2013 22: 16
                        Of course, such a pro-Western puppet liberal government that they issue the Magnitsky act, declare number 1 to be a geopolitical enemy, let us not calmly bomb Syria, do you really need it?
                      2. New Russia
                        0
                        24 September 2013 22: 43
                        He also joins the WTO, does not fight corruption because thieves themselves do not fight migration (2nd place in the world and 1st in Europe), drug crime (1st place in the world) and destroys small businesses (minus 500 thousand enterprises in half a year) and farmers (-150 thousand) In Syria and Iran, C 300 is not and never will be
                      3. 0
                        24 September 2013 23: 03
                        Quote: New Russia
                        drug crime

                        It's a lie
                        Quote: New Russia
                        minus 500 thousand enterprises for six months

                        Cover up one-day firms? Well done!
                        Quote: New Russia
                        farmers (-150 thousand)

                        Have you seen these farmers in your eyes?
                      4. New Russia
                        +1
                        24 September 2013 23: 22
                        Drug crime is a lie) Give a link from anywhere that we are at least not on the first place but on the 2nd place in heroin mortality! More than 100 thousand a year, by the way, official statistics are state statistics! "Have you covered one-day firms? Well done!" The fact that these were not ephemeral was said by all and sundry economists Khazin at least
                  2. 0
                    24 September 2013 21: 56
                    Quote: New Russia
                    Read the biography and who they all were in the 90s and who they worked for) Ulyukaev deputy Gaidar for example)

                    Natsiks and now, together with the Nemtsovs, are in a self-proclaimed council of some sort ...
                    1. New Russia
                      +2
                      24 September 2013 22: 14
                      What Natsik?) We are not talking about puppet nationalism, but about everyday life that is growing and will inevitably result in something. For you, a man who is against Natsik against foreign barbarians in his land?) So they already do not call more than half of the population
                      1. 0
                        25 September 2013 00: 17
                        Quote: New Russia
                        What Natsik?) We are not talking about puppet nationalism, but about everyday life that is growing and will inevitably result in something. For you, a man who is against Natsik against foreign barbarians in his land?)

                        So they would call to restore order, personally for and there is, and what nationality does not play a role. And the most fig, then that cover them here, the Russian cops.
                        New RussiaIf you called for legal order to restore order, I would support you, and would support to tighten the punishment in migration policy. But to cut Russia once again, not really pipes. Enough...
                2. Yarosvet
                  +1
                  24 September 2013 21: 35
                  Quote: Arabist
                  I see you are a liberal fanatic

                  Liberal fanatic, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ... laughing

                  And then what is it called ?! laughing
                  1. Arabist
                    +1
                    24 September 2013 21: 38
                    So you already decide liberalism is good or bad. And who wrote the Constitution to us Americans or not. Good luck.
                    1. Yarosvet
                      +1
                      24 September 2013 21: 49
                      Quote: Arabist

                      Eh, no, my friend, don’t you go to the market - is it liberalism, or not? laughing

                      Maybe, despite the legal education and high opinion of associate professors and professors about you, in your head the definitions are mixed up?
                      Or is it just that someone from the political technologists recklessly called liberalism that which should serve as a lightning rod for the Government, and now you have to suffer with definitions? laughing
                      1. Arabist
                        +2
                        24 September 2013 21: 54
                        The concept is now all messed up. Democracy is carried on bayonets, freedom fighters slaughter children’s throats, peace doves wage several wars at the same time. I answer, Putin is not a liberal in the modern sense of the word. The foundations of liberalism are human rights and freedoms, a beautiful ideology. Unfortunately in Russia it has ugly forms.
                      2. Yarosvet
                        0
                        24 September 2013 22: 07
                        Quote: Arabist
                        Unfortunately in Russia it has ugly forms.
                        And not only in Russia - there is no democracy and liberalism anywhere in the world.

                        I answer, Putin is not a liberal in the modern sense of the word
                        Perhaps, but you must admit that he is like a boar up to a thumbnail before the "excellent ideology".

                        What is interesting is that liberalism is an extremely unstable social system and, as a result, very quickly slides either to socialism or to fascism. The latter is happening now - that freak of liberalism that we have and which can be called neo or ultra-liberalism, is rapidly slipping into fascism, to separation by property qualification, including in terms of law enforcement practice.

                        At the end of the tunnel, neo-feudalism shines - and you sing praises of this tendency, personified in the person of Putin.
                      3. Arabist
                        0
                        24 September 2013 22: 08
                        And what do you offer me?
                      4. Yarosvet
                        +1
                        25 September 2013 10: 01
                        Quote: Arabist
                        And what do you offer me?
                        Do not hang labels or use emotional clichés in the discussion - instead, dots above "i"to arrange for yourself.
                  2. 0
                    25 September 2013 00: 20
                    Quote: Yarosvet
                    Quote: Arabist
                    I see you are a liberal fanatic

                    Liberal fanatic, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ... laughing

                    And then what is it called ?! laughing

                    Strange logic, if the GDP said that the liberal, then the guard. If he says something else, he immediately lies like Trotsky ... smile
                    1. Yarosvet
                      +1
                      25 September 2013 10: 05
                      This is a guard for the Zaputin, and Vova is lying no matter what he calls himself.
  46. 0
    24 September 2013 19: 13
    Quote: New Russia
    Yes, if they are greyhound. This is my right in my land

    tell me, dear, how can you grow open on your land, or maybe all the same it is not your land, but our Russian, well, it’s me since we live in one state?
    1. New Russia
      +1
      24 September 2013 20: 49
      This is my land by birthright, like all Russians.
  47. +1
    24 September 2013 19: 24
    Quote: chushoj
    I can imagine what would happen if the GDP at least once squeezed out that Russia was for Russians and the priority would be the revival of Russian culture?

    why should he squeeze it out of himself, Russia is not only for Russians, but also for everyone else, and everyone else is the same citizen of our country and have equal rights and responsibilities, I’ve watched a lot here as some Joseph Visarionovich Dzhugashvili praise how much he is for the country did not have a particularly Russian surname, Egorov also hoisted a banner over the Reichstag and Kantaria also called Milton, I mean that we lived together and fought together and also died together, and all these articles are mixed up with Russian self-determination me turns them off, Ukrainians go where this self-determination led, almost Jesus was a Ukrainian there, and Adam and Eve were born somewhere near Chernigov
    1. New Russia
      -1
      24 September 2013 20: 51
      And what was there in Chechnya in 1943 that was reminiscent of?) Do not confuse the Georgians of Armenians and the SS battalion Nord Kavkassen
      1. +2
        24 September 2013 21: 58
        Quote: New Russia
        And what was there in Chechnya in 1943 that was reminiscent of?) Do not confuse the Georgians of Armenians and the SS battalion Nord Kavkassen
        Well then, remember the ROA, which was obviously bigger in number and a bunch of policemen.
        1. Arabist
          +2
          24 September 2013 22: 00
          You can recall the UPA.
        2. New Russia
          +1
          24 September 2013 22: 25
          ROA and UPA are minorities and the North Caucasians during the war from the Venkomat hid and met the Germans with flowers and the Russians and Ukrainians took them only as enemies
          1. Arabist
            -1
            24 September 2013 22: 28
            ROA and UPA together approximately 200.000 people. And where did the Chechens meet the Germans with flowers? In Kazakhstan from a freight wagon?
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            2. New Russia
              +2
              24 September 2013 23: 25
              By the way, what did they do in Kazakhstan? Evil Stalin sent them for nothing?)
              1. 0
                25 September 2013 00: 27
                Quote: New Russia
                By the way, what did they do in Kazakhstan? Evil Stalin sent them for nothing?)

                I respect Stalin, but I can admit some of his mistakes ...
          2. -2
            25 September 2013 00: 25
            Quote: New Russia
            and the North Caucasians during the war hid from the Venkomat and met the Germans with flowers and the Russians and Ukrainians accepted them only as enemies
            Those two Chechens who were awarded Heroes and Dagestanis (I don’t remember how much, like other Caucasians), also met with flowers ...?
            Enough of all under one comb of revenge.
  48. +2
    24 September 2013 20: 29
    Right article, right article, timely article! Watch and listen to how they humiliate the Russian people, how they are ashamed to rob them for themselves, for their relatives, for the Russian people, for the government, for the President. Everyone makes the right kind of speech, but only the situation of Russians is getting worse and worse! Hordes of migrants (without challenges, without knowledge of the language, professions, without knowledge of the customs and customs of Russians) creep into the native Russian lands, taking away work, lowering their salaries, sowing robbery and imposing their customs and manners. And there is no protection for the Russian! The liberal government is yelling that migrants are the salvation of Russia !! The regional government there too! Tatarstan introduced holidays on the capture and burning of Russian cities, in Chechnya, a monument to women fighters with Russian soldiers! In all republics, swearing against the Russians almost openly sounds, and the authorities are silent as if it were necessary !!!
  49. +1
    24 September 2013 20: 45
    The Russians have a special role ... Russians cannot emphasize that they are Russians. Seeing this - you will cause rejection among the many other peoples dependent on the Russians. But I must make you happy - Russians have already passed the stage when they needed to belong to the nation as self-determination. Russians are now one of the most developed nations on the planet. When the word MAN is above nationality. Now other nations can still play "antiquity". But this is nothing more than a game. Everyone now understands that other times have come, and we need to change. Soon everyone will become a common nation again - as it was during the union. And Russian will become the language of communication. This should be taken as good. Russians cannot, again, I repeat, you cannot emphasize your Russianness / Slavism / exclusivity / Orthodoxy
    1. New Russia
      0
      24 September 2013 20: 59
      After Chechnya and the fact that there were Russians in Asia, there will never be an analogue of the USSR. There will be only a Slavic union and maybe Kazakhstan
      1. -1
        24 September 2013 22: 15
        Quote: New Russia
        After Chechnya and the fact that there were Russians in Asia, there will never be an analogue of the USSR. There will be only a Slavic union and maybe Kazakhstan

        Both before and after Chechnya, nothing has changed. The war in Chechnya is unleashed by Western mercenaries with the money of Londonobad and Fashington, it is the Anglo-Saxons who are responsible for the Russians and Chechens killed in this war. There were scumbags both among Chechens and among Ukrainians that sided with terrorists and criminals, but not the majority.
        1. New Russia
          -1
          24 September 2013 22: 57
          Not the majority?) Are you ready to answer for your words?) Mass gang rapes and no one gave a damn. It's good that our people are smart and are not fought on "The war in Chechnya was unleashed by Western mercenaries with the money of Londonobad and Fashington," and those who in St. Petersburg fired this on whose money was organized?)
          1. +1
            24 September 2013 23: 07
            Quote: New Russia
            It's good that our people are smart and are not fought on "The war in Chechnya was unleashed by Western mercenaries with money from Londonobad and Fashington."

            Exactly, our people are smart, everyone knows perfectly well where the legs of modern terrorism grow, all but you.
            1. New Russia
              0
              24 September 2013 23: 26
              Where is everything?) On donenas?) People on the street 90% do not read this nonsense and Starikov for good reason and are generally apolitical
              1. +1
                24 September 2013 23: 41
                Quote: New Russia
                Where is everything?) On done?)

                I don’t know what was done there. Everything is on this site.
                1. New Russia
                  -1
                  24 September 2013 23: 47
                  You talk with people in your yard and find out) And on this site there are few commentators and many visitors who are silent)
                  1. +1
                    25 September 2013 00: 32
                    Quote: New Russia
                    You chat with people in your yard and find out)
                    I often communicate with people of different nationalities every day. Mostly normal people ...
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            3. FIRE
              +1
              25 September 2013 00: 42
              Every "true patriot of Russia" knows that this is obama killed the first Russian in 16 years.
              With the money of Hillary Clinton.
              So they said on Channel One.
          2. 0
            25 September 2013 00: 30
            Quote: New Russia
            and those who shot it in St. Petersburg on whose money is organized?)

            So, according to your logic, all claims from the war should be presented to Petrograd ...
            1. FIRE
              +1
              25 September 2013 00: 56
              Quote: Russ69
              So, according to your logic, all claims from the war should be presented to Petrograd ...

              Yes. To the "Petersburg" KGB scoop-internationalist with a Chechen bias. For the war that has come to the streets of our good-natured cities.



              Events a week ago, who do not know ...
    2. FIRE
      +1
      24 September 2013 21: 33
      Quote: Ram Chandra
      Russians have a special role ... Russians cannot stick out that they are Russians. Seeing this, you will cause rejection among other NUMEROUS peoples dependent on the Russians.

      “The main national interest of the Russian people is to have no national interests, otherwise Russia will fall apart!” Wah wah.
      A familiar topic.
      And Russians must also die in silence, without offering resistance to their killers. In the name of "the unity of peoples", hell is clear ...

      Quote: Ram Chandra
      Soon everyone will again become a common nation - as was the case with the union. And the language of communication will be Russian. This should be taken as a blessing.

      You will no longer have a chance to stick to the Russians. Do not dream. This whole anti-Russian theme about the Eurasian Union, USSR-2, breathes while the Lake Cooperative breathes. And he did not have long.
      1. +2
        24 September 2013 22: 17
        Quote: FIRE
        You will no longer have a chance to stick to the Russians.

        I draw attention to the fact that Kazakhstan in the USSR was self-sufficient, if Russia contained anyone, it was not Kazakhstan.
        1. New Russia
          +1
          24 September 2013 23: 00
          Well, Kazakhs are more cultured than these from the south, you can agree with them
      2. 0
        25 September 2013 17: 15
        Can i ask you? Why is your nationality capitalized? Or do you think Russians are higher than others, as Americans consider themselves?
        Did you yourself learn Russian or are you still learning?
  50. +4
    24 September 2013 21: 59
    Quote: New Russia
    This is my land by birthright, like all Russians.

    amendment land from the Kaliningrad region to Chukotka is the land of all peoples living in Russia and having a passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation, regardless of nationality or religion
    1. Lakkuchu
      +3
      24 September 2013 22: 17
      One sober person on the site has become more.
    2. FIRE
      -2
      24 September 2013 22: 21
      Quote: 020205
      having a passport citizen of the Russian Federation

      Well then this thing is fixable. If you can easily distribute Russian passports and citizenship of any trash (in Abkhazia, in South Ossetia), then it can also be deprived of this trash of citizenship.
      Under the Russian government and the Russian president, Rus-haters in Russia will not have ANYTHING at all. And they themselves will not be.
      1. Arabist
        0
        24 September 2013 22: 23
        No one in Russia can be deprived of citizenship.
        1. FIRE
          0
          24 September 2013 22: 29
          Quote: Arabist
          No one in Russia can be deprived of citizenship.

          This is for now.
          I write - when RUSSIAN AUTHORITIES
          1. Arabist
            -1
            24 September 2013 22: 33
            Ride to the Gulf countries.
            1. FIRE
              -1
              24 September 2013 22: 50
              You’d better leave Russia. Then, you see, and without rebellion, everything will work out.

              LEAVE RUSSIA RUSSIAN
    3. New Russia
      0
      24 September 2013 22: 28
      Regardless, this is temporary) Only those peoples who are ready to get along with the Russian Tatars and others will be here to live the rest or leave peacefully or not peacefully
  51. +3
    24 September 2013 22: 09
    Quote: New Russia
    After Chechnya and the fact that there were Russians in Asia, there will never be an analogue of the USSR. There will be only a Slavic union and maybe Kazakhstan

    what the f... am I a Slavic union, isn’t it funny? I read about the Slavic union and laughed for half an hour, where are they Slavs? I’ve been living in the world for 26 years, I’ve never even seen a single Slavic person, only in patriotic pictures, perhaps, Damn, he has a Slavic union, something quickly the Slavic brothers fled in 91, and some, or rather the majority, still don’t want to know!!! They don’t need a weak Russia yet, so we’ll become strong again and these “brothers” of yours will be back on their knees They’ll crawl back, and we’ll fraternize with them again and call them brothers.Don’t cry for those who abandoned you in difficult times, appreciate those who were there!!!
    1. New Russia
      0
      24 September 2013 23: 04
      Have you run away?) Recall the result of the referendum on the USSR? In Ukraine and Belarus they love Russians. A new ideology will unite us
      1. +1
        25 September 2013 00: 40
        Quote: New Russia
        A new ideology will unite us
        What ideology... smile
        Where the food is sweeter, there is ideology now, unfortunately..
  52. 0
    24 September 2013 22: 28
    Quote: FIRE
    Quote: 020205
    having a passport citizen of the Russian Federation

    Well then this thing is fixable. If you can easily distribute Russian passports and citizenship of any trash (in Abkhazia, in South Ossetia), then it can also be deprived of this trash of citizenship.
    Under the Russian government and the Russian president, Rus-haters in Russia will not have ANYTHING at all. And they themselves will not be.

    for this Abkhaz and South Ossetian trash, as you put it, our boys died in 2008, because their conscience did not allow them to dump and throw civilians to be torn to pieces by the crusading white and red dogs
    1. FIRE
      +2
      24 September 2013 22: 41
      Yes. OUR Russian boys died in someone else's trenches, someone else's civil war, for alien and alien peoples. And then, the Abkhazians, liberated by the Russians, expelled the remnants of the Russian population from Abkhazia, taking away their housing.
      Black people don't remember good things. Axiom. It's time to learn.
  53. +2
    24 September 2013 22: 33
    Quote: New Russia
    Regardless, this is temporary) Only those peoples who are ready to get along with the Russian Tatars and others will be here to live the rest or leave peacefully or not peacefully

    Which peoples are ready to get along with the Russians and Tatars in your opinion, maybe you’ve sketched out a list at the very least?
    1. New Russia
      0
      24 September 2013 23: 07
      Haven’t you heard about the clashes between Caucasians and Asians with Tatars?) Not to mention the Russians
  54. 0
    24 September 2013 22: 49
    Quote: FIRE
    Yes. OUR Russian boys died in someone else's trenches, someone else's civil war, for alien and alien peoples. And then, the Abkhazians, liberated by the Russians, expelled the remnants of the Russian population from Abkhazia, taking away their housing.
    Black people don't remember good things. Axiom. It's time to learn.

    Where and who expelled whom? facts
    This is for now.
    I’m writing - under the RUSSIAN AUTHORITY
    I hope the power you so dream of will never exist
  55. 0
    24 September 2013 23: 24
    Quote: New Russia
    Haven’t you heard about the clashes between Caucasians and Asians with Tatars?) Not to mention the Russians

    I don’t understand who encountered whom?
    1. New Russia
      +2
      24 September 2013 23: 43
      http://www.apn.ru/publications/article29074.htm
      http://www.city-n.ru/view/327475.html

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