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Heroes without gold stars: saving Komsomolsk-on-Amur

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Recently, the majority of our fellow citizens, answering the question of whether real heroes exist in our time, demonstrate a smirk, saying something like this:


Yes, what kind of heroes? Some "buy-sell" and "take what is bad lies" around. Werewolves in uniform, sales prosecutors, mayors, rectors, judges and others. Heroes in the past.

One can agree with this proposition, well, quite partially, taking into account the thesis “There were people in our time!” It is impossible to agree with this one hundred percent by definition. The reason is that from television screens and from the front pages of the newspaper we are much more likely to broadcast about robberies, murders, fraud and bureaucratic corruption, rather than about people who sometimes at the cost of their health, and sometimes at the cost of their lives, try to accomplish until the end what is considered their duty. Yes, it’s foolish to argue with the fact that we need to know corrupt officials in person, that we should be informed about the presence of fraudulent and robber groups, but at the same time we cannot lose sight of the positive information that often tells us that people of honor and high dignity, who are ready to honestly do their work and even sacrifice themselves, have by no means ceased in our country.

The fact that honest and decent people, people with a high level of personal responsibility in our country have, can demonstrate the information that came from the Amur region - from the zone of the largest flood in recent decades. Can these people be considered heroes? - judge each of you.

City Komsomolsk-on-Amur. The flood wave from the regional center - Khabarovsk - reached the 250-thousandth city by the beginning of the second decade of September. The water began to arrive at an unprecedented pace, threatening to break through the so-called Mylkinsky dam - originally six meters in height and the 5-kilometer-long embankment, which protected the southern districts of the city. Rescuers, military and ordinary volunteers from among the inhabitants of Komsomolsk-on-Amur and other cities, realizing the danger of breaking through the dam, increased its height by 4 meters, using the ground for this. However, this was not enough. The water arrived and arrived, stepping over the 9-meter mark. The water mass of the lake Mylki (Milka), which was fenced off by a dam, was about to flow through the last centimeters of the groundwork. The situation was aggravated by the fact that a strong wind rose in the region of the lake (up to 25 m / s), and a real storm began.

To protect the city from complete flooding, hundreds of people in chemical protection suits or ordinary jackets and raincoats lined up on top of the groundwater obstacles to water, cut the bulk dams, turning them into waterproof fabric shields that had to be held by the hands under the waves. People resisted the elements for several hours, and they managed to keep the city. The battle for Komsomolsk-on-Amur on the Mylkinskaya dam was fought knee-deep in icy water, under the onslaught of waves and hurricane wind.



The water turned over multi-ton KAMAZ trucks on a sagging soil literally a couple of meters away from the human shield that protected the city. Instead of KamAZ trucks, cadets, students, military and contract servicemen, rescuers, volunteers from among local residents, including even schoolchildren, had to work. While some were holding cut bulk levees, trying to stop the element, others passed sandbags along the chain.
At the same time, the dam was also strengthened from below. Here the group of divers of the Ministry of Emergency Situations worked. Divers worked truly in the most difficult conditions, risking at any moment to be literally thrown on the fortifications built by a storm.

Heroes without gold stars: saving Komsomolsk-on-Amur


One of those who, defending his hometown from a breakthrough, worked on the Mylkinsky dam, is a ninth-grader Alexander Alemasov. Alexander traveled to the dam himself - after school, and worked here, helping adults, until late at night.

Alexander Alemasov:

I'd like to help my hometown. I hardly notice tiredness, I am used to working.


This is by the way that our modern young people can only drink beer at the doorways, but because of the computer they don’t get out ...

Emergencies Minister Vladimir Puchkov personally met with a ninth-grader from Komsomolsk, who thanked Sasha, handing him a letter and a gift. But, to be honest, a gift is somewhat strange - an iPhone ... Of course, for a modern schoolchild, an iPhone is a cool thing, so to speak, but here it is not an iPhone that should be presented, but a state award. Let's hope that this case will also come to this, as it will find the matter of awarding all those who defended the Mylkinskaya dam, and with it the whole 250, the thousandth city.



It is surprising that even after what Alexander Alemasov and other Komsomolsk-on-Amur defenders mentioned in the material did, there are such gentlemen in our society who, even in this case, find a reason for stinging expressions. For clarity, we give several examples of assessing the actions of a boy by “individual people”.

A certain Nikita Bobrov writes in one of the social networks (a quote without spelling corrections, but with a “zapikivaniem” mat):
"Nashol about school ...".


I would like to ask Nikita this: but nothing, as long as people like you warm their soft seats, Alemasov and hundreds of other people tried to do everything so that you were “dry and comfortable”? .. I would like to express myself more harshly, but then it turned out that Nikita Bobrov did not reach the age at which he could be "tougher". By the way, Nikita Bobrov's favorite quote, which they posted on their page on the popular social network:
I somehow do not care how I look in your eyes. In my I look great, this is important.


It says a lot, doesn’t it ... Doesn’t psychologists at school No. XXUMX of the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, in which he studies, pay attention to the boy ...

PS The Mylkinskaya dam and other objects on Amur were held: cadets of the Voronezh and Ivanovo institutes of the State Fire Service of the Emergencies Ministry, soldiers of the military service 1042 (Khabarovsk), 1043 (Kamchatka Krai), 978 (Urals), 653 SC Emergency Services Ministry (Siberian Rescue Center), military units Of the Russian Federation, among them lieutenant Igor Kovalev, residents of the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur. On behalf of the Military Review information resource, I want to say sincere thanks for the work to those people who have taken and continue to take an active part in countering the elements in the Far East and eliminating the consequences of its rampant.
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  1. Sibiryak
    Sibiryak 24 September 2013 08: 04 New
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    The Mylkinsk dam and other objects on the Amur were held by: cadets of the Voronezh and Ivanovo institutes of the State Fire Service of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation, military fighters 1042 (Khabarovsk), 1043 (Kamchatka Territory), 978 (Ural), 653 SC of the Ministry of Emergencies of the Russian Federation (Siberian Rescue Center), military personnel of the RF Armed Forces among which lieutenant Igor Kovalev, residents of the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

    Thank you so much guys that you are!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 24 September 2013 10: 14 New
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      Quote: Author Volodin Alexey
      “Buy-sell” and “take what is bad”. Werewolves in uniform, venal prosecutors, mayors, rectors, judges and others.


      Thank you Alexei good note. We have heroes. There is always, and this one with coconut is probably from that risk group that you have listed those who will never be on the dam.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 24 September 2013 11: 28 New
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        Quote: Vadivak
        Thank you Alexey good note

        Join us!
        Plus special thanks for ....
        We present to your attention a photo of this comedian-commentator
    2. honest jew
      honest jew 24 September 2013 12: 01 New
      -13
      And where is the much-praised MES?
      1. Akhtuba73
        Akhtuba73 24 September 2013 13: 24 New
        +7
        Read the last paragraph ...
  2. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 24 September 2013 08: 05 New
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    Russia has always been very different where you can find cynicism, greed, curl, indifference BUT at the same time there were always people who saved the country more than once or twice. There are many real heroes in the country, it is not possible to recognize all of them, but we must strive for this, strive to be like them!
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 24 September 2013 12: 06 New
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      Unfortunately, there are a lot of real inconspicuous heroes in the country. But ...
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 24 September 2013 19: 43 New
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        Quote: Captain Vrungel
        Unfortunately, there are a lot of real inconspicuous heroes in the country. But ...

        All of them are great fellows, the Ministry of Emergencies, soldiers, just people, but why it was impossible to do so -
        1. ando_bor
          ando_bor 24 September 2013 20: 26 New
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          Expensive, at least a hundred times more expensive
          per person, due to population density.
          Even in rich and overpopulated Europe
          such facilities are rare. Usually also
          swim.
  3. Lightpower
    Lightpower 24 September 2013 08: 05 New
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    Heroes - praise and honor. Thank.
  4. svp67
    svp67 24 September 2013 08: 06 New
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    I know that a lot of volunteers work there. And honestly - you guys are real HEROES.
  5. bars280
    bars280 24 September 2013 08: 08 New
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    Well done guys, I am grateful to you !!!! But it is regrettable that there are two dead soldiers. One contract driver, a truck driver, drowned at the crossing in the area of ​​Lake Gasi. The second conscript, died from hypothermia in the hospital.
  6. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 24 September 2013 08: 13 New
    +9
    What is the army and navy (Ministry of Emergencies, guys of the Army of the Russian Federation) and of course volunteers, here are true patriots, low bow !!!
  7. waisson
    waisson 24 September 2013 08: 20 New
    +8
    they did their job with honor, thank you very much for that.
  8. Bongo
    Bongo 24 September 2013 08: 22 New
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    He himself was at the dam, participated and saw everything that happens. I would like to note the real heroism of conscript soldiers, that's who really defended Komsomolsk, along with volunteers.
    Moreover, their food and logistics left much to be desired. Residents of the city, those who had no opportunity to work directly on the dams, brought hot tea and food to them in their vehicles.
    Вызывает удивление пассаж в конце статьи, автор что называется начал "за здравие", а кончил "за упокой". Школьники как и тысячи людей разного возраста безусловно оказали большую помощ в возведении дамб, но подростков непосредственно на дамбу не допускали.Они занимались наполнением мешков песком и укладкой во второстепенных местах. Таких как девятиклассник Александр Алемасов были тысячи.Вместо коментариев о том, кто и что написал на своей страничке в социальных сетях, было бы уместней как разобраться почему такая катострофическая ситуация возникла вообще и кто несёт ответсвенность.
    1. Gari
      Gari 24 September 2013 09: 51 New
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      Quote: Bongo
      I would like to note the real heroism of conscript soldiers, who really defended Komsomolsk along with volunteers.

      But also boys under 18 years old.
      Here are real heroes like this kid, like all ordinary people
      Glory to you.
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 24 September 2013 12: 12 New
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        We and the authorities have different concepts about glory, feat, elite.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 September 2013 11: 37 New
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      Quote: Bongo
      Instead of commenting on who wrote what on their page on social networks, it would be more appropriate to figure out why such a catastrophic situation arose in general and who was responsible.

      Well, who do you think? Komsomolsk in the lowland, there has never been such water. And you could not even predict this a year ago, even you yourself.
      1. Far East
        Far East 24 September 2013 13: 48 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Komsomolsk in the lowland, there has never been such water. And you could not even predict this a year ago, even you yourself.

        Уважаемый, бывали дожди серьёзнее и лили все лето! но вот такое это ДА!это тупо сброс с ГЭС шо бы китайцам неустойку не платить. лучше быть при "бабках" а народ выдержит ВСЕ! вот такие у нас БОССЫ! за бабки удавятся! hi
        1. VasDA
          VasDA 24 September 2013 16: 05 New
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          Блин... Вот к чему эти громкие заявления? В комментариях к статье "Будни Дальневосточного федерального округа..." от 02.09.13 я уже писал.. Повторю...
          But about the Zeya hydroelectric station and the Bureyskaya hydroelectric station ... Are you a power engineer? And I - yes ...
          If it weren’t for the hydroelectric power station, we would have drowned in July ... The inflow of water from these stations (total) when the discharges were opened was no more than 10-15% ... Amur also has Ussuri and Sungari as tributaries. The latter flows through the territory of China, and this year they also drowned at the top of their head ... And also, as much as they could, they kept water with the help of their hydroelectric power stations. The main body of water in the Amur this year is incessant rains for two months. During this time, the ANNUAL rainfall has spilled onto our heads ...
          ---
          There I was asked shpuntik questions, which I then did not answer.
          Quote: Now 8 meters.
          That is, if the hydropower stations did not restrain water from the rains, then it would be now not 8, but 9 meters? So it turns out? But in my opinion, on the contrary, they dawned on the moment, did not drain the water in time, so they added another 6,42 meters to 1,2. The end of the quote.

          I answer now ...
          Я не гидролог. Не думаю, что 1.2 метра, но подтопление у Хабаровска было бы точно. Да и процесс бы этот длился намного дольше. В одной из местных программ журналист очень хотел получить "жаренную" сенсацию и два раза спросил начальника Хабаровского гидрометеоцентра о виновности ГЭС в наводнении... Во второй раз она, еле сдерживая гнев, НЕ энергетик, сказала журналюге, что виной всему ДОЖДИ.
          1. Far East
            Far East 25 September 2013 11: 43 New
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            Quote: VasDA
            If it weren’t for the hydroelectric power station, we would have drowned in July ... The inflow of water from these stations (total) when the discharges were opened was no more than 10-15% ... Amur also has Ussuri and Sungari as tributaries. The latter flows through

            Respected! all this is interesting! but there is one BUT! everything was ok before this dam. read below comments Nayhas is you say for the media and the local do not!
      2. VasDA
        VasDA 24 September 2013 16: 08 New
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        They foresaw ... They foresaw ... Our hydrologists spoke about this 8 years ago, that there will be big water ... But then they were not heard ...

        And you think why Ishaev V.I. so quickly and honorably left on his own?
      3. 505506
        505506 25 September 2013 09: 56 New
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        Вы вспомните, как отцы города и края ездили, раздувая щеки, по плотинам, и говорили, что все в порядке. Даже за полтора месяца видя, что в приамурье паводок становится критичным, за три недели глядя как тонет Хабаровск не поняли, что наводнение принимает катострофический характер, а поняв испугались. Выразился испуг в практически полном отсутствии информации, и лихорадочности принимаемых мер. Город пух от слухов, обильно растущих от информационной бескормицы. Вы помните, как прогнозировался уровень воды? 920-950-980 см.и даже более 10 м. А горожане в своих версиях рассказывали "мой друг(брат, сват), точно сказал, что до них довели сов.секретную инфо-уровень будет 14 метров". Паническая скупка продовольствия, под увещевания властей "Все будет хорошо". И еще очень многое хочется сказать, но итожу-все хорошо не благодаря, а вопреки местным властям. И чей-то подвиг, в мирное время, следствие чьего то раздолбайства.
    3. Nayhas
      Nayhas 24 September 2013 16: 07 New
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      Quote: Bongo
      Instead of commenting on who wrote what on their page on social networks, it would be more appropriate to figure out why such a catastrophic situation arose in general and who was responsible.

      While currently in Khabarovsk, I recently met an employee from Komsomolsk-on-Amur who says that RUSHYDRO was to blame for not letting go of excess water in the summer from the Bureyskaya HPP, like waiting for autumn water to increase electricity sales to China, which weather forecasters warned that there will be more August water than usual, but they didn’t listen, dollars in the eyes ... As a result, when the water flooded, they began to dump water in large quantities thereby aggravating the situation ... In general, any heroism is behind someone’s crime ...
  9. Blad_21617
    Blad_21617 24 September 2013 08: 23 New
    +6
    in the same way, someone went into the partisan detachment during the war, from the school bench, and someone served as a bandage for the police and the invaders (this is about Sasha's officer). And Puchkov, of course, could also give the boy a medal! or have awards already been handed out to his deputies?
  10. igor36
    igor36 24 September 2013 08: 44 New
    +3
    Quote: Bongo
    it would be more appropriate to figure out why such a catastrophic situation arose in general and who was responsible.

    Responsibility for what? For abnormal rains? Also let's introduce responsibility for earthquakes, typhoons and volcanic eruptions.
    In the spring-summer period, a large amount of precipitation fell in the Amur Region, so in May the region had from 2,5 to 5,5 monthly rainfall, in June in several districts there were two monthly rainfall, in July the rainfall exceeded the norm of 1,5 , 3-110 times, in the first ten days of August, 350 to 2 mm of precipitation fell, which is 5-2013 times more than the ten-day norm of the current month. http://agroamur.ru/news/201308142/XNUMX.php

    Purely Russian mentality to find who is to blame.
    In fact, an article about caring people in Khabarovsk showed in the news how some Men (with a capital letter) build a dam on the embankment, while others are not men, but males walk by and take pictures on their cell phones.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 24 September 2013 08: 53 New
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      Do not you think that the place is somehow more visible? Answer me please, why did the dams begin to be strengthened only at the last moment? It was impossible to prepare, the margin of premeni for this was decent. After all, it was clear that there was a lot of water coming from the headwaters. The first to hit came the Amur region, then flooded Khabarovsk. Komsomolsk from Khabarovsk flood wave comes in 7-10 days. The big question is the role of hydropower in what happened. The reservoirs were filled, and then there was anomalous rain.
      So what about hydrology and mentality for those who live in the Far East is not necessary.
      1. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 24 September 2013 09: 06 New
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        Quote: Bongo
        Please answer me why the dams only began to be strengthened at the last moment? It was impossible to prepare, the supply of premium for this was decent. After all, it was clear that a lot of water was coming from the upper reaches

        This is an occasion for further dismantling and taking appropriate measures. But it also does not detract from the merit of those who defended the city. How many were killed during the flood? One contractor? In other countries, in such cases much more dies.
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 24 September 2013 09: 13 New
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          And who detracts from merit? And if you think that the inaction of the officials is not a reason?
          There are no victims because people themselves prepared. The village Parkovy to this day stands on the window in the water, just because the dam was not strengthened in time. As for the reasons, it is probably worth poobschatsya with people who on the eve of winter have lost housing and property.
          1. Ivan Mechanic
            Ivan Mechanic 24 September 2013 09: 36 New
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            Как уже это задрало ""...... люди сами подготовились." - а начальники только мешали. Вот еже-ли бы начальники грёбаные не руководили то мы бы как дали как дали!!!". Все умны сидя снизу и не беря отвественности на себя - типичный приём нашей АнтилиХенции! Вы думаете что организовать работы это раз плюнуть, вы думаете организовать логистику в зоне ЧС это как сосиску сварить? Вы думаете работа руководства на местах легче тех кто стоял в воде? Вы глубоко ошибаетесь! В большинстве случаев быть просто исполнителем намного проще чем руководить процессом, принимая решения знать что при ошибке могут не просто дома подтопить но и люди погибнуть. Вы готовы взять на себя такую ношу?
            1. Bongo
              Bongo 24 September 2013 09: 42 New
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              Were you at the scene? Have you seen with your own eyes what was looking for? Or judge what happened on the 1 channel information?
              Ministry of Emergency Situations in this case, worked on 100%. But keeping dam up is not their job.
              1. Ivan Mechanic
                Ivan Mechanic 24 September 2013 09: 50 New
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                No, I was not at the scene of an emergency. So what? Was the emergency somehow unique just because you were there? Or type you kind of shot that everywhere and everywhere has ripened and already managed to put marks and the Ministry of Emergencies and others? Who are you, judge?
                1. Bongo
                  Bongo 24 September 2013 09: 55 New
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                  It is enough for me that I worked at the dam. Judges did not see there, the people were simpler. For some, I see every day drowned villages on the streets of which 1,5 is water. And drenched only because the dub was not strengthened in time. Work on the fortification began only when the flood came to the city.
                  1. Ivan Mechanic
                    Ivan Mechanic 24 September 2013 10: 06 New
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                    Well then, there are no questions, now just you have every right to judge everyone and everything! After all, you were on the dam itself! I think now you need to urgently run to the administration and have the full right to shoot all who you think is necessary! And do not forget to write on the forehead - I WAS ON THE DIKE and now I know what and how!

                    А теперь серьёзно - были на дамбе и хорошо - значит вы Мужик. Но это не значит что вы поимели какие-то особые права или жутко повысили свои знания в каком либо предмете или области. Ведь ещё год назад вы-бы наверное первый вышли на митинг если-бы городские власти плюнули на всё - на ремонт школ, ремонт дорог, пособие к пенсиям, ....... в общем на всё проблемы города и грохнули деньги только на дамбу! И кричали-бы вы на этом митинге - "На.... нам эта дамба когда нас никогда не топило! Опять чинушки бюджет пилят на никому не нужную дамбу вместо того что-бы ...........!". Не нравиться ваше местное управление - законы в зубы и становитесь на их место и работайте!
                    1. sashka
                      sashka 24 September 2013 10: 12 New
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                      Quote: Ivan Mechanic
                      And do not forget to write on the forehead - I WAS ON THE DIKE and now I know what and how

                      It is not good in such a tone to talk to people who have experienced all the Headache of power in their own skin ..
                      1. Ivan Mechanic
                        Ivan Mechanic 24 September 2013 10: 28 New
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                        Quote: Sasha
                        It is not good in such a tone to talk to people who have experienced all the Headache of power in their own skin ..

                        Нехорошо хвалиться Мужику тем что он ПОСТУПИЛ как Мужик! Похвальба больше бабе к лицу! Что до "на своей шкуре испытал" - я думаю тут на форуме многие что-то да испытали и может и поболее чем вода на дамбе но об этом почему-то не сильно орут где надо и где не надо. А если всё валить на головотяпство власти и кидаться искать виноватых ничего хорошего не даст! ЧС на то и ЧС что как к ним не готовся а проблемы будут. При этом стоит отметить работу именно власти и народа (не только ЧС - ЧС работает в тесной связке именно с властью и народом) - погибших минимальное количество! Хотя в других местах и странах при таких ЧС счёт погибшим идёт на десятки!
                      2. Vadivak
                        Vadivak 24 September 2013 10: 59 New
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                        Quote: Ivan Mechanic
                        And if you blame everything on the headache of power and rush to look for the guilty, nothing good will come of it!


                        And who to blame for the student? At the schoolboy?
                        To the cadet?

                        The Chinese are building dams along their shore for 600 km, without coordination with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, - (the head of the water department of the Amur Basin Water Authority Anatoly Yurchenko.)
                        - According to the observations of hydrologists, such activity of the Chinese side leads to a redistribution of the flow in the Amur and Ussuri, especially during the flood period. As a result, the water hits the lower unshrunken Russian coast, eroding it and significantly shifting the channel towards Russia.

                        He said this on July 8, 2010. Three years passed and what happened was what was expected, but they built Sochi instead of dams. Of course, this is also an interesting thing, but not on the scale of human grief.
                      3. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 24 September 2013 11: 40 New
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                        Quote: Vadivak
                        The Chinese are building dams along their shore for 600 km,

                        Vadim, China in this case suffered even more and it was the Chinese dams that stopped a significant part of the water. Kitai himself was drowning, but he could restrain the flow of water as much as he could. Here, the elements and China are in vain dumped.
                      4. Vadivak
                        Vadivak 24 September 2013 12: 03 New
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                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Vadim, China in this case suffered even more


                        Well, maybe, Sasha, you certainly know better
                  2. sashka
                    sashka 27 September 2013 22: 49 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Ivan Mechanic

                    It’s not good to boast to the Man that he has ACTED as a Man! Praise more to the woman to face!

                    Так великий пу и дам хвалятся намного больше.. Кстати в Цирке "Дю Солей" есть программа под названием "куидам". Quidam". По Русски "некто". (пуидам) Правда похоже ? "одна буква" не меняет текст но не меняет смысла..Никто и некто так и запишут в Истории.. Тандем двухголовых (м)Чудаков..Прославиться можно по разному..
                  3. Bongo
                    Bongo 28 September 2013 06: 15 New
                    +3
                    What can you explain, to someone who slips to direct insults, with foaming at the mouth protects corrupt officials, thieves in law and officials who do not fulfill their duties?
              2. Bongo
                Bongo 24 September 2013 10: 15 New
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                How did you have a snack, for what reasons is it interesting?
                Нашим городом руководит один и тот же человек, уже больше 20 лет.За время его руководства население города сократилось с 330 до 250 тыс. Он прекрасно уживался с "общаком" небезъизвестного "Джема". Пока тот не сжёг в кафе "Чарордейка" детей. "Властную вертикаль" он устраивает, хотя все в городе про его дела знают. В отличии от Ишаева никого не критикует.
                1. Ivan Mechanic
                  Ivan Mechanic 24 September 2013 10: 33 New
                  -18
                  Достали уже эти стоны по поводу власти! Вы были рядом с этим человеком когда он рулил (как вы пишите) с "Джемом"? Вы можете доказать это? Нет? Тогда почему вы не в СК или МВД? Почему не проводите расследование деяний этого человека. И при чём тут 20 лет? Вам что года нахождения у власти важнее чем дела? Вам нужны шашечки от такси и не ехать? ВСЕ ВСЁ ЗНАЮТ но ждут кого-то что-бы что-то как-то разрулил? Сейчас руководителей городов избирают - вот и не выберет его население! Что ещё надо?
                2. ivshubarin
                  ivshubarin 24 September 2013 11: 14 New
                  11
                  Если бы наш мэр не ужился с Васиным Е.П "ДЖЕМом" его бы уже не было вообще в природе
                3. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 24 September 2013 11: 46 New
                  11
                  Quote: ivshubarin
                  Если бы наш мэр не ужился с Васиным Е.П "ДЖЕМом" его бы уже не было вообще в природе

                  Given that even KNAaPO was unfastened in the common fund, he not only got along with Jem, but also became friends.
              3. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 24 September 2013 11: 43 New
                +7
                Quote: Ivan Mechanic
                ! Вы были рядом с этим человеком когда он рулил (как вы пишите) с "Джемом"? Вы можете доказать это?

                And what are you talking about a thief in law? Themselves as a representative of the organized crime group Dormitory. Everyone in Komsomolsk knows who Mikhalev is and during his kisses with Jam, I myself lived there and now I visit Komsomolsk from time to time.
              4. Vadivak
                Vadivak 24 September 2013 12: 01 New
                +9
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                And what are you talking about a thief in law?


                Two options - Either because of ignorance, or by vocation ...
              5. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 24 September 2013 12: 07 New
                +7
                Quote: Vadivak
                Two options - Either because of ignorance, or by vocation ...

                Given that until now the grave of Jem and the Top is under round-the-clock protection of bandits, it’s more likely the second.
                PS Spinning top, also a thief, lie nearby.
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 24 September 2013 10: 50 New
    +4
    Quote: Ivan Mechanic
    Do you think that organizing work is time to spit, do you think organizing logistics in the emergency zone is it like cooking a sausage?

    This is yes, the case with a barrier during the accident on Sayano-Shushenskaya was especially indicative - it jammed and the cars could not leave until the guard and some woman stood up and how the supports held the barrier so that the managers' cars could leave and stood and kept the barrier until all the cars left

    1. Ivan Mechanic
      Ivan Mechanic 24 September 2013 11: 00 New
      -2
      1.40 очень показательно! Именно на таких тачках ездяют "менеджеры" и директора! laughing Вы вообще к чему этот бред написали про менеджеров - на видио вообще-то по всей видимости стоянка авто персонала! И при чём тут логистика - вы знаете значение слово логистика? Или у вас оно ассоциируется с "автомобиль+шлагбаум+охранник"?
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 24 September 2013 11: 24 New
        +8
        Quote: Ivan Mechanic
        1.40 очень показательно! Именно на таких тачках ездяют "менеджеры"


        I tell you about Thomas and you about Yerema

        о событиях на Саяно-Шушенской узнали не по системе аварийного оповещения, не по радио, не от представителей власти, а по мобильникам от... терпящих бедствие односельчан - работников ГЭС . Что могли сообщать ошеломленные люди? Только паническое: "Все прорвало, все топит! Спасайтесь!" И жители села, подхватив детей и документы, в панике бежали за огороды на гору. На самую высокую. Я видел ее - туда мог загнать только страх. А что власти? Сельский голова говорит, что пытался звонить в районную администрацию, но там вообще ничего не знали. И радио молчало... Поневоле вспомнишь, как мы когда-то подшучивали над гражданской обороной, то учившей нас надевать противогазы или собираться в эвакуацию, то объявлявшей учебную тревогу по радио. Теперь ничего этого нет. Даже радиофикации на селе - ни динамиков в домах, ни "колокола" у сельсовета. И власть в час беды лишь разводит руками.
  • ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 24 September 2013 11: 06 New
    +7
    Yes, it was not 7-10 days of handicap, but the month when Blagoveshchensk began to drown in Komsomolsk, no one moved. We dams in Molodezhny and Novy Mir immediately began to build, and then half of the houses did not stand up
  • Nick888
    Nick888 24 September 2013 13: 01 New
    +3
    Quote: Bongo
    Do not you think that the place is somehow more visible? Answer me please, why did the dams begin to be strengthened only at the last moment? It was impossible to prepare, the margin of premeni for this was decent. After all, it was clear that there was a lot of water coming from the headwaters. The first to hit came the Amur region, then flooded Khabarovsk. Komsomolsk from Khabarovsk flood wave comes in 7-10 days. The big question is the role of hydropower in what happened. The reservoirs were filled, and then there was anomalous rain.

    Приходит в голову пословица: Пока петух не клюнет,мужик не перекреститься, приправляем русским "авось". Имеем результат.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 24 September 2013 09: 00 New
    +5
    Russia is holding onto such! Silently without PR they saved villages and cities of the Far East And officials (not all of course) need to be planted that they allowed this!
  • user
    user 24 September 2013 09: 01 New
    +6
    As a sketch of our political instructor about the heroism of conscript soldiers and not a single line of information why during the discharge at the Zeya hydroelectric station there she gave almost 90% of the water that washed away these very soldiers, and why the hydraulic structures were in such a state.
    As usual, the heroism of the personnel is used to cover the resulting excess profits from the generated electricity during such operation of the hydroelectric power station. It was exactly the same at the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric station, where in July (the previous month before the accident) a record was set for electricity generation for the entire duration of the hydroelectric station.
    As they say business - nothing personal
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 24 September 2013 09: 49 New
      -1
      Zeya hydroelectric station she gave almost 90%

      ooo guru of hydrology on the march.
      And what would happen if the Zeya and Amur dams would gain, like the Chinese maximum?
      What would happen if an overflow of water began from a gravity dam?
      And so briefly look at what is in China and compare with what we have?
    2. VasDA
      VasDA 24 September 2013 16: 19 New
      +2
      The question is for you and those who are discussing about what they have no idea at all. Rhetorical .. WHY?
      I am pleased to read comments on articles of people who understand what they write.
      NEVER mess with comments to where I am a complete ignoramus.
      and the question is personal to you: where did you get these 90%?
      1. user
        user 25 September 2013 09: 33 New
        0
        This was shown on television channels, the speech of hydrologists with a history of the development of the situation, when Blagoveshchensk had just begun to sink. After the situation worsens, only heroic episodes of salvation.
  • v.lyamkin
    v.lyamkin 24 September 2013 09: 21 New
    +3
    Статья понравилась, только концовка неудачная. Хотя почему она появилась, понятно. Полностью согласен с автором насчет подачи новостей: главное - это криминал и что все плохо. Когда-то очень уважал "Комсомольскую правду". Читать ее перестал после смены главного редактора и интервью, в котором его спросили "почему комсомолка пожелтела". А он ответил, что они печатают то, что читатель хочет читать. Вот после этого я и перестал читать "Комсомольскую правду"
  • SAG
    SAG 24 September 2013 09: 40 New
    +3
    такие бедствия показывают насколько едина нация и сильно государство при ликвидации последствий стихии. В США насколько я помню после удара "Катрины" во многих городах побережья наблюдалась волна мародёрства.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 24 September 2013 09: 44 New
      +7
      You are right, although we have had cases of looting. Even the pumps that pump out the water thugs tried to steal
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 24 September 2013 09: 58 New
        +2
        You are right, although we had cases of looting

        How did the police / MES / AF / people act in such situations?
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 24 September 2013 10: 00 New
          +6
          Fostered by folk methods laughing
  • ando_bor
    ando_bor 24 September 2013 10: 10 New
    +6
    Well done guys, soldiers worked in Krymsk too, but everything is very sharp there
    happened already on the analysis of the rubble.
    Many freaks are trying to do politics on the elements.
    The main characteristic of the flood, after discharge,
    is its repeatability, maximum for 5, 10, 100 years,
    на Амуре происходит "обычное" 200 летнее (или около того) наводнение,
    in Krymsk it was 300 - 500 years old (given the availability of data, this is definitely considered).
    The Zeyskaya type dam is designed to withstand 10 years of flooding.
    How many rivers in Russia? Almost every year there will be a 200 or more year flood, which no one remembers, it’s not even mathematics, but stupid arithmetic.
  • mazepa
    mazepa 24 September 2013 10: 29 New
    -16
    С этой фотографии смеялась вся Украина и Европа. Глупость чиновников ваших прячут за героями, которые там стояли или дураками. Что касается Крымска - то я очень отчетливо помню все события, которые там происходили, все эти ролики на ютьюбе я просматривал много раз и про эту дамбу без слива никогда не поверю, только поверит. И помогали там люди людям, а не государство людям, власти Крымска или "элита" крымска уехала и никому не сказала о том, что надвигается. Сколько бы Россия газа не продавала - никто в здраовом уме не проголосует за Таможенный союз с таким государством и с такими наивными и глупыми людьми, которых ничего никогда не научит, ведь любую глупость можно сделать подвигом.
    1. maxvet
      maxvet 24 September 2013 10: 45 New
      +5
      As I understand it, it’s also funny for you, and what are these people doing stupid things for you there?
      Please clarify the situation with the floods in the Carpathians, they probably reacted right there right away, helped people right away, eliminated the consequences?
      By the way, and where does the vehicle
    2. Lidia irkutsk
      Lidia irkutsk 24 September 2013 19: 03 New
      +3
      Вам будет очень смешно, когда Украина "договорится" с ЕС.
  • dmb
    dmb 24 September 2013 11: 14 New
    +6
    На заре, не к ночи будь помянута, Перестройки по телевидению т.е. в широком прокате был показан фильм: "Остановился поезд". Проблема, отраженная в нем актуальна и по сей день. Стихию конечно не отменишь, но свести потери к минимуму вполне возможно. У нас же высокооплачиваемая орда-детище Шойгу занимается в основном "отслеживанием". Никто не отрицает тяжкого труда пожарников и спасателей, но в процентном отношении к толпам многозвездных генералов и полковников они -капля в море. Кто-нибудь объяснит, зачем во главе МЧС субъекта федерации должен торчать генерал в звании командующего армией, у которого действующего личного состава меньше чем на полк, а остальные проверяют ларьки на предмет пожарной и всякой прочей безопасности. и почему он ездит на Хаммере? В это же время существовавшая система метеонаблюдений разрушена практически полностью. Про лесные пожары и сокращение лесников Минприроды "за нерентабельностью" поговорили и забыли. Видимо до следующих пожаров. А когда они начнутся, спасатели снова начнут проявлять героизм, а Пучков, как ранее Шойгу вышибет себе новые бюджетные средства "на отслеживание".
  • Wii
    Wii 24 September 2013 11: 22 New
    +1
    Heroes! and just normal people.
  • Letnab
    Letnab 24 September 2013 11: 33 New
    +8
    Yes, the guys standing and working on the dam are really heroes!
    but a little about the sad reasons, because heroism arises from the gouging of others ..
    In the article of the Aviation Protection Specialist (http://aviapanorama.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/22.pdf) a little about the causes of the flood ...:
    In July-August 2013 over the territory of Yakutia and the north of the Krasnoyarsk Territory due to
    large forest fires established a powerful blocking anticyclone. As a result, huge territories were smoked, residents of dozens of cities suffered, firefighting flights were blocked, navigation was hindered, the emergency mode was announced again, huge financial losses and expenses. A direct emergency of federal scale (!) In neighboring Amur Region was a direct result of catastrophic fires in Yakutia and Khabarovsk Territory, which
    Some are located on the periphery of the anticyclone, where torrential rains did not stop for more than a month and created a dangerous flood situation, hundreds of houses were flooded, financial and material losses were colossal. Recall the meteorological truth - large forest fires are able to give stability to the anticyclone, as a result, it stands for a long time, and cyclones, resting on the anticyclone, pour precipitation on its periphery!

    I believe the article, since I myself have repeatedly observed something similar.
    Initially, flooding began after prolonged rains in the north of the region, in the mountains, and the flood in Zeysky district began before the hydroelectric power station began to conduct idle discharges. As far as I know, there were a number of reasons why the discharge of water was not started in advance. There is one reason that the leadership of ROSHYDRO did not give the command, in July the Bureyskaya hydroelectric station already carried out idle discharges, and an addition from the Zeyskaya hydroelectric station would have already ensured floods in the south of the Amur Region and partially in the Khabarovsk Territory ...
    By the way, the Zeya hydroelectric station didn’t completely open all the locks, although everything went to the point that the water could go through the top of the dam ... but as if the level were still maintained, although even at the maximum permissible discharge of water, the daily inflow of water into the reservoir was above dumped.
    Why am I writing this because our Airborne Guard unit was involved in emergency rescue operations, both at the beginning of flooding, during, and after the water left, our employees continue to work on emergency response in the region and in the region. He personally personally periodically attended meetings of the emergency situations of our region.
    Many worked, the headquarters of the local CoES, involved organizations. Someone is good, someone messed up, and for this he got a hit on the head from the prosecutor's office and the FSB. But even then, many raised the question, what does the Ministry of Emergencies do in our country? Local rescuers really were on the cutting edge, he saw it. BUT the arrived forces of the Ministry of Emergencies, a huge headquarters, some kind of stupid bustle of a huge number of officers from majors to colonels .. some kind of illiteracy in the actions, all this was. During joint work, our employees literally had to curse fighters and officers.
    I don’t know how things really were in Khabarovsk and Komsomolsk, but initially the flood began in our region, and I saw what I wrote.
    By the way, and all involved organizations had to work, in fact, at their own expense, at the command of the governor, they returned only the cost of the spent fuel ... both aviation and others.
    1. Drosselmeyer
      Drosselmeyer 24 September 2013 12: 24 New
      +4
      What surprises you? The Ministry of Emergencies was formed in order to have an armed group of people personally loyal to Yeltsin. Indeed, the respected first president of Russia could not rely on his own army and police. Then, against the backdrop of general chaos and the destruction of the country, the Ministry of Emergencies began to form a sort of agitation-ministry to show the vigorous activity of the new Russian government. And then this ministry turned into a personal PR department of Mr. Shoigu, with his endless conference calls for television. Well, the functions of rescuers, it was so, a side activity.
      1. v.lyamkin
        v.lyamkin 25 September 2013 06: 27 New
        +1
        I agree with you in some ways, but, nevertheless, it is not necessary to humiliate the work of rescuers in this way. Yes, in the end, then let them PR, if as a result people are saved. And, returning to the topic of news feed. So it may still be better to listen to the news that someone somewhere and someone saved, rather than someone somewhere and someone killed.
    2. VasDA
      VasDA 24 September 2013 16: 25 New
      +3
      Спасибо за "...Первоначально подтопление пошло после продолжительных дождей на севере области, в горах, и потоп в Зейском районе начался до того, как ГЭС начала проводить холостые сбросы. Насколько знаю, был ряд причин, почему сброс воды не начали заранее. Есть одна из причин, что не давало руководство РОСГИДРО команду, в июле Бурейская ГЭС уже проводила холостые сбросы, и добавка от Зейской ГЭС уже тогда обеспечила бы потопы на юге Амурской области и частично в Хабаровском крае...
      Кстати, Зейская ГЭС так все шлюзы до конца не открыла, хотя все шло к тому, что вода могла пойти через верх плотины... но как бы уровень все таки удержался, хотя даже на максимальный допущенный сброс воды, ежесуточный приток воды в водохранилище был выше сбрасываемого..."
      Еще бы все "знатоки" режимов работы ГЭС ВНИМАТЕЛЬНО это прочитали...
  • DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 24 September 2013 11: 47 New
    +6
    O Allah, save Russia from all adversity!
    It is necessary to chip in the whole country, and restore everything that they lost there.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 24 September 2013 12: 14 New
      +6
      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
      It is necessary to chip in the whole country, and restore everything that they lost there.


      Already. In the early days.
    2. Drosselmeyer
      Drosselmeyer 24 September 2013 12: 28 New
      +1
      We must not take off, but make normal conditions for the work of insurance companies. But since all insurers work with banks and depend on them, there will not be any normal insurance payments.
      In general, most of all I now don’t envy those who have lost mortgage housing, now they have all the movies ahead.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 September 2013 12: 38 New
    +3
    Thank you so much human, Heroes.
    Be healthy!
    I have the honor!
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  • George
    George 24 September 2013 13: 04 New
    +3
    Well done boys !
    Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
  • denkastro
    denkastro 24 September 2013 13: 37 New
    +3
    Do you know the difference between guys who accomplish feats from everyone else? They perform feats, and do not scratch the languages ​​on the forums. And most importantly, they do not need any comment, they need help. The whole world needs to help the people of the flooded territories with their hands, things and money.
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 24 September 2013 14: 12 New
    10
    Как говорится: "В жизни всегда есть место подвигу"...Школьники спасали город, а где был мэр и управа, явно не на дамбе. А вообще все ребята молодцы- отстояли город hi
  • Forest
    Forest 24 September 2013 14: 47 New
    +6
    Judging by the photo officers, he is a representative of a migrant nationality and there is nothing surprising in his castrated worldview, this is transmitted with genetics.
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  • rusinros
    rusinros 24 September 2013 15: 32 New
    +4
    Alexander Alemasov must be awarded with a state award! And often advocate such feats in the media!
  • alone
    alone 24 September 2013 21: 16 New
    +4
    but as for those three, I don’t know what to say. the boy saved his city, and these blacken him. but they themselves probably would not have moved backwards if this had happened in their city
  • michajlo
    michajlo 24 September 2013 21: 26 New
    -1
    Good evening everyone!

    Thanks to the author for the article and the description of the work of those who saved the top of the dam, increasing the height and keeping it from flushing.
    All these MUZHIK and BABY guys plowed there, the fact that this is HEROITY, they didn’t even think about then.

    And here about the events wrote the participant Bongo (Sergey).
    Кроме "вопросов без ответа", почему ничего не делали ДО ПАВОДКА, он описывает как люди носили ПАХАВШИМ чай, воду, что-то под зуб.

    But hell, when the participants or journalists can write that something happened somewhere.

    And there besides PEOPLE themselves, there was ALL THEIR SUPREME, their deputies.
    Well, their SECRETARS BOTTLED TEA WORKING and KITCHENS or CAFES and RESTAURANTS THERE HAVE DELIVERED TEA and COFFEE, and all this was paid by the GOS ADMINISTRATION!
    And as always there was no voluntary help from the people, compassionate and sympathetic aunts and uncles !!!

    Мужики, на кой ляд вот такая гос-АДМИНИСТРАЦИЯ, деятели которой только в лимузинах и с мигалками умеют разъезжать да перед телкамерами "умные рожи строить"?
  • Takashi
    Takashi 24 September 2013 22: 01 New
    0
    Heroism on someone's stupidity.

    Для тех кто не в курси - обьясню. Озеро Мылки (глубина 3-4 метра - средняя). Находится на Юго-западной части города. Как и положено место рядом озером облюбовано автокооперативами и частным сектором. Вот их слегка и притопило. Капитальная линия застройки (5-10 этажки) находится на скальном грунте с отметкой h>~15 метров. Есть линия притопления (местность становиться болотистой) ближе к вьезду на в город по Хумминскому шоссе - но это не критично. Затапливало и до постройки Зейской ГЭС.

    So here. Heroism should be for the sake of something (or better for the sake of someone - to save the orphanage, grannies to take out of the nursing home). In this case, the city was not in danger. After the storm, everything could be restored in the easiest way.

    .....
    Remember the guys in Chechnya? about a company that took a height on patrol and blocked the way for 1000 bandits. Heroes Yes. But they became heroes because of someone's stupidity: someone did not check the intelligence, someone could not pull the art division closer, someone could not advance by march ... Result: 9 alive.
    1. Vbuben2raza
      Vbuben2raza 25 September 2013 07: 59 New
      +4
      You, Takashi, of course, well done, what information do you have ... Just add to the depth of the Mylok +9 meters - the rise of the Amur from the norm. And reduce 15 meters of the rise of the building line and rocky soil, since the southwestern part of the Railway Station microdistrict is on loose soil. If the dam broke, it would flood not only the Railway Station microdistrict, but also a large part of the city. The water level on both sides of the dam was more than 4 meters. I saw it myself. And passed with a GPSka - this is certainly not a completely correct argument, but nonetheless. My house, Lenin 76, to the water level was -2 meters on September 9 ...
    2. 505506
      505506 25 September 2013 10: 20 New
      +1
      And my house was in the water, Boulevard of Youth, and between two dams, and rise a level at least half a meter, the first floor would drown. And if only it would pour from both sides ... it was scary to think. Water is still in the basement, and there is no chance of expelling it to frost. It’s easy, Takashi, to theorize, and when women and children after work are brought to the porch by boat, and people hold water with their backs, and hydrologists refuse to predict the situation, you might think that nothing threatens you. This is not even a roasted rooster ...
  • slacker
    slacker 24 September 2013 22: 04 New
    +4
    Special thanks to the troops of the Eastern Military District! The contribution of the army to the fight against this element was decisive. Without an army, neither the Ministry of Emergency Situations, nor mythical students and volunteers of nifiga could not have done.
    I especially liked the reports from Blagoveshchensk when they showed cadets at the local woku. Reliable, calm and immediately visible reliable guys. Even our young Germans when watching the news noted that these guys made the most positive impression on them.
  • South
    South 24 September 2013 22: 43 New
    +5
    the reward smiled - an iPhone - is that - like a new scale of values ​​from Medvedev’s filing?
    it would be better if the Kadyriks were awarded such and other ....., but people who accomplished feats all the same with STATE AWARDS should be noted!
    1. Letnab
      Letnab 25 September 2013 11: 09 New
      0
      to the very point !!