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Chengdu build 1200 fighter J-10

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Chengdu build 1200 fighter J-10The Chinese company Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group will build X-NUMX fighters J-1200 to counter the Taiwanese F-10, according to wantchinatimes.com with reference to the newspaper Want Daily.


The Moscow radio station Voice of Russia says that J-10A is equipped with AL-31FN turbojet engine from Lyulka-Saturn imported from Russia because of the difficulties with creating WS-10 Taihang engine in China. The new version of the J-10B will be equipped with a Taihang engine.

Senior Vice President of China Aviation Industry Corporation Geng Ruguang said that the creation of J-10, Taihang engine and PL-12 air-to-air missiles brought China to the 4 position among the countries in the world that are developing and producing advanced fighters.

Geng said that the J-10B fighter with a radar with an active phased antenna array can accompany 6 targets simultaneously and attack 4 targets from them. Geng also said that the J-10 radar system can easily capture American F-16 and Japanese F-2. In addition, the air-to-air missile PL-12 of the J-10 has the same characteristics as the American-made AIM-120 air-to-air class used on F-16A / B fighters of the Taiwan Air Force.

Taiwan currently has 386 fighter jets, of which 145 F-16A / B is purchased from the United States. The imbalance in the number of fighters on both sides of the Taiwan Strait is a matter of serious concern to the security of Taiwan.

In the 2014-15 years, the X-NUMX J-36B fighter jets will also be supplied by the Pakistan Air Force called FC-10.
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  1. Guun
    Guun 23 September 2013 11: 05 New
    +5
    The number is scary. I wonder how long these light fighters will be introduced into the PLA Air Force. But Taiwan can’t buy so much F-16. In the event of war, China will simply flatter the number of Taiwan Air Force in a short time.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 23 September 2013 11: 58 New
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      Quote: Guun
      The number is scary. I wonder how long will be introduced in the PLA Air Force

      The figure of course is big. But not less than in 10 years, apparently the entire construction program of the J-10, along with export. And how much will be realized, time will tell.
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 23 September 2013 14: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Guun
      The number is scary. I wonder how long these light fighters will be introduced in the PLA Air Force

      250-300 is already part of the Air Force. The production rates of the rest depend on the production of engines.
  2. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 23 September 2013 11: 07 New
    +2
    Get fucked up! belay
    We'll throw the planes! (an analogue of our clause "with hats")
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 23 September 2013 12: 27 New
      +3
      The scale is really impressive. Whether they copy, steal, but build a lot and in a short time.
  3. Wedmak
    Wedmak 23 September 2013 11: 11 New
    +3
    Um ... AFAR, escort 6, attack 4 ... And how many missiles carries? Choi is in serious doubt about the number of fighters. Yes, and with its engine.
    1. Guun
      Guun 23 September 2013 11: 19 New
      +2
      Do they lie there themselves. The aircraft development program was declassified on December 29, 2006. Russian consultants from TsAGI and MiG Design Bureau participated in the creation of the aircraft. The fighters use engines of NPO Saturn of Russian and Chinese (licensed) production. Also, when creating the aircraft, the IAI Lavi fighter developments sold by Israel to China were used. That is, we teach them to make weapons themselves.
      Cannon: 1 × double-barreled 23 mm gun
      Suspension points: 11 (3 under each half wing and 5 under the fuselage)
      Combat load: 7 kg of various weapons: Missiles: air-to-air: PL-260, PL-8, PL-9, PL-11, P-12 and R-27
      air-ground: PJ-9, anti-ship missiles YJ-8K, YJ-9K, 90 mm NAR
      guided (LT-2, LS-6) and free-falling bombs
      Typical combat load: Air superiority and interception
      Maximum speed: 2,0 M
      Cruising speed: 1110 km / h (0,93 M)
      Landing speed: 235 km / h
      Combat radius: 800 km
      Practical range: 2000 km (without refueling)
      Ceiling: 18 000 m
      Wing loading: 335 kg / m²
      Dead weight: 0,69 (in afterburner with curb weight 18 000 kg)
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 23 September 2013 11: 28 New
        +1
        That is, we teach them to make weapons themselves.

        Sorry ... Although in this case not to do, but to collect.
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 23 September 2013 11: 49 New
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          Quote: Wedmak
          That is, we teach them to make weapons themselves.

          Sorry ... Although in this case not to do, but to collect.


          We teach them not to think how to create something, but to think how to buy cheaper from us ...
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 23 September 2013 11: 54 New
            0
            Or copy. In the same place, in the cellars of Uncle Liao with only one file, they will copy any technique. The reliability of this technique is the second question.
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 23 September 2013 15: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Wedmak
      Um ... AFAR, escort 6, attack 4 ..

      Here's some kind of mistake. AFAR on the J-10B, according to open information, accompanies 16 targets.
      Quote: Wedmak
      Choi is in serious doubt about the number of fighters. Yes, and with its engine.

      Yes, there are doubts. Let's see what happens in reality.
  4. 31231
    31231 23 September 2013 11: 18 New
    -4
    No, but what ?! Taiwan is a high-tech competitor. So they’ll come up with some Senkaku and go on an assault. Now only the United States is still a little weakened and can squeeze the land from its neighbors' babies.
    1. Guun
      Guun 23 September 2013 11: 21 New
      -4
      Rather, they will surrender themselves. The fifth column in Taiwan is working, perhaps we will see the result soon. Taiwan is a good training ground for China to gain experience in capturing countries without a shot.
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 23 September 2013 11: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: Guun
        Rather, they will surrender themselves. The fifth column in Taiwan is working, perhaps we will see the result soon. Taiwan is a good training ground for China to gain experience in capturing countries without a shot.


        Taiwan is an American protectorate. Therefore, there is especially no one torn, Therefore, there is high-tech and beauty. The only way for China to get it is to enter into an open war with the United States.
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 23 September 2013 12: 33 New
          +3
          Soon, China will achieve such power that the United States will prefer to close its eyes to the fact that Taiwan will be absorbed by China. Not the 20th century, when the only superpower itself decided who to execute, and whom to have mercy. Over Taiwan to fight China? Sheepskin is not worth the candle. For the USA.
          1. Civil
            Civil 23 September 2013 12: 53 New
            0
            Here, a little more China will not care about the opinion of the United States
          2. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 23 September 2013 15: 40 New
            +1
            Quote: xetai9977
            Soon, China will become so powerful that the United States will prefer to turn a blind eye to Taiwan


            Let's look real. The United States, while they exist, will never turn a blind eye to what is happening outside their continent. Moreover, they will climb into all holes without soap and start a war wherever possible. By the fact that as long as everything is bad they will be fine.
  5. KononAV
    KononAV 23 September 2013 11: 21 New
    0
    1200 is a lot. we probably just don’t have that much. But quality raises questions
    1. Guun
      Guun 23 September 2013 11: 22 New
      +1
      Russian consultants from TsAGI and MiG Design Bureau participated in the creation of the aircraft, plus technologies purchased from Israel using the IAI Lavi fighter. Now their quality is on average or even higher.
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 23 September 2013 11: 53 New
        -1
        Quote: Guun
        Russian consultants from TsAGI and MiG Design Bureau participated in the creation of the aircraft, plus technologies purchased from Israel using the IAI Lavi fighter. Now their quality is on average or even higher.


        We look at the plane. This is the tail and air intake from F-16, the wing and PGO from rafal and the nose from MIG-29. What quality do you think such a plane can have?
        1. Guun
          Guun 23 September 2013 12: 02 New
          0
          Actually, it looks like a Lavi + KB MiG added, taught the Chinese. Purely my opinion is that the Chinese are slowly but surely moving towards quality and quantity. And on the account of this plane - time will tell what it is.
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 23 September 2013 15: 06 New
            +1
            Quote: Guun
            And on the account of this plane - time will tell what it is.

            The Chinese claim that in training battles he hits J-11 (Su-27). Although this is somewhat strange, but nonetheless ...
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 23 September 2013 15: 13 New
              0
              The Chinese claim that in training battles he hits J-11 (Su-27).

              Well, the J-11 can and does. But there are big doubts about the Su-27. Although it was copied, it is unlikely to be 1: 1 Su-27 in terms of performance and performance characteristics.
    2. Su24
      Su24 27 September 2013 03: 19 New
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      Quote: KononAV
      1200 is a lot. we probably just don’t have that much. But quality raises questions


      China also doesn’t have it yet.
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  7. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 23 September 2013 12: 29 New
    +1
    One of the decisions of the 18th CPC Congress is the "unification of the shores of the Taiwan Strait" until 2019. It is difficult to answer whether the Chinese will fight the Chinese, but the dragon is heavily arming itself and this is alarming.
  8. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 23 September 2013 13: 44 New
    0
    Taiwan is the uninhabited Kuomintang. On the other hand, Taiwan is high technology and democracy, and this is by no means more attractive than the dictatorship of the CCP on the continent. Taiwanese will fight to the end.
  9. pinecone
    pinecone 23 September 2013 13: 55 New
    +1
    PLA Air Force J-10 and Pakistani Air Force Mirage, joint combat training.
  10. Siberian
    Siberian 23 September 2013 15: 21 New
    +1
    Chinese company Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group will build 1200 J-10 fighters
    Yes, arming is not childish. Such an amount is similar to locusts. And aren't there too many to confront the Taiwanese F-16s?
  11. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 23 September 2013 16: 08 New
    +1
    Combat F-16 120 pcs. 1 to 10 is obtained. What a hell. Apparently not in Taiwan, it’s just that it will be the main light fighter of China.
  12. moremansf
    moremansf 23 September 2013 16: 15 New
    0
    There is something to learn from the Chinese comrades ... once we could build at the same pace, but all in the past ... we will believe in our military-industrial complex, especially with the advent of Ragozin, there have been many positive trends in this area ...
  13. slacker
    slacker 23 September 2013 16: 38 New
    +1
    I suspect that the multiple advantage of China in quantity may be more important than Taiwan's advantage in quality.
  14. Akim
    Akim 23 September 2013 17: 17 New
    +1
    When WS-10 and WS-13 were brought to mind in Zaporozhye, I would not mind having such fighters enter service with the Ukrainian army.
  15. pinecone
    pinecone 23 September 2013 18: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Siberian
    Chinese company Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group will build 1200 J-10 fighters
    Yes, arming is not childish. Such an amount is similar to locusts. And aren't there too many to confront the Taiwanese F-16s?


    In Pakistani Internet sources there was information about the possible adoption by China of the "lightning war" doctrine.
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  16. SANAY
    SANAY 23 September 2013 19: 07 New
    +1
    Our mobs need to carefully study this threat. It is possible that this measure was not conceived against Taiwan ...
  17. Siberian
    Siberian 23 September 2013 19: 08 New
    +1
    In Pakistani Internet sources there was information about the possible adoption by China of the "lightning war" doctrine.
    Where to find this internet source? Interesting to read. Link if possible.
  18. pinecone
    pinecone 23 September 2013 21: 04 New
    0
    Quote: Siberian
    In Pakistani Internet sources there was information about the possible adoption by China of the "lightning war" doctrine.
    Where to find this internet source? Interesting to read. Link if possible.


    I don’t remember exactly, but most likely at http://www.defence.pk/
    By the way, the forum they have there is entertaining. Particular attention is paid to armed conflicts with India, there are interesting materials about Pakistani pilots volunteers who fought in the Air Force of Jordan, Iraq and Syria during the Arab-Israeli wars of 1967 and 1973.
  19. twviewer
    twviewer 13 December 2013 22: 17 New
    0
    [media = http: //alternathistory.org.ua/files/250810_J-10.jpg]
    it seems to be within 28 miles, the engine is one :)
    thrust-to-weight ratio, armament nomenclature too, afar .. well done