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Middle East Crisis and the Black Sea Fleet

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In Sevastopol, more than in Moscow, one can feel the breath of the war in Syria. In late August, an attack by the United States and its allies on Syria was expected from day to day. August 27 reconnaissance ship SSV-201 "Azov", flagship of the 112th brigade of reconnaissance ships of the Black Sea fleet, left Sevastopol in the direction of the Bosphorus.


Russian intelligence vessels can be compared to petrels. Recall that the reconnaissance ship Liman 2 on April 1999 left Sevastopol, and two days later, NATO launched a missile attack on Yugoslavia. 15 May 2011 of the year from Sevastopol to the shores of Libya came out of the CER-201, and his arrival at the place coincided with the Tomahawks missile attack on Libya.

Well, on August 29, a NATO squadron entered the Sevastopol as part of the German ship base А512 Mosel, the German minesweeper М1061 and the Turkish minesweeper М264. From this it was immediately possible to conclude that Germany would not participate in the attack on Syria, at least in the autumn of the 2013 year.

NATO ships met 100 – 150 protesting residents of Sevastopol on the Grafskaya Wharf. As I immediately noticed, not a single poster in the hands of the demonstrators and not one of the slogans chanted by them was directed against Germany and Turkey. Although the arrival of German warships in Sevastopol can not but evoke associations with the events of 1941 – 1944. Nevertheless, all the anger of the demonstrators was directed primarily against the United States, and secondly against NATO.

September 12 from Sevastopol to the Bosphorus came out patrol ship (former BOD) "Sharp-witted."

The media talked a lot about the delay by the Ukrainian side of the release of the TFR. In fact, it could only be a few hours. On the eve of the “Sharp”, he went to combat training, then went to refueling in Inkerman, and a couple of days went to sea on the Bosphorus.

Unfortunately, the media do not say that the launch tubes of the Uranus complex at Sharpie are empty. The fact is that back in 2000 – 2002, two RBU-1000 were removed on the ship, and two quadruple X-35 rockets, taken from the P-44 rocket boat, were installed instead. Over 10 years passed, and the missiles of the Uranus complex in Sevastopol were never delivered.

GATHERED THAT

With the arrival of “Sharp-witted” in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea, a large grouping of Russian ships formed there for the first time since 1991, when the 5-I operational squadron was disbanded there.

The largest ship of the group is the Pacific BOD "Admiral Panteleyev". Its total displacement is 7800 t. The Baltic Fleet is represented by the Fearless guard ship 4350 T displacement. Both ships do not have anti-ship cruise missiles on board, although according to the Fearless project the Uranus anti-ship missile system was to be equipped, but it was not supplied . True, both ships have anti-submarine complexes: the Panteleyev-URK Rastrub with a range of 55 km, and the Fearless - the Waterfall with a range of 40 km. In Soviet times, anti-submarine complexes had, along with conventional warheads, nuclear ones. Accordingly, one anti-submarine complex in the Mediterranean could, with one volley, send a whole carrier-based connection to the bottom. But now the presence of YBCH on Panteleyev and Fearless is unlikely.

By September 12, there were seven large Russian amphibious ships in the eastern part of the Mediterranean: two Pacific - Admiral Nevelskoy and Peresvet, two Baltic ships - Minsk and Alexander Shabalin, and three Black Sea ones - Novocherkassk, Nikolai Filchinkov and "Azov". However, September 14 "Azov" went to the Baltic to participate in the exercises "West-2013".

What is the purpose of concentrating these BDK in the Eastern Mediterranean? It is clear that a large landing operation in Syria is out of the question. Although the landing of the Marine Corps by force to the battalion is not excluded. The purpose of the landing may be to cover the evacuation of Russian citizens and the property of the Material and Technical Base (TAP) in Tartus, to take control of the chemical weapons etc.

I note that the 720-4 PMTO was created in Tartus back in 1984 year. Now there is a floating PM-138. According to the plan, at the end of September it was supposed to change PM-56, but, apparently, this plan was changed, and PM-56 was standing at the Coal wall of Sevastopol without movement.

Unfortunately, the Black Sea Fleet no longer has capable transport vessels, and the USSR State Marine Fleet, as is known, has ordered to live long. Therefore, BDK has been used for many years as transport ships, carrying military cargo both to the ports of Syria and on the Novorossiysk-Sevastopol line. Russia currently cannot transport military cargo and troops in large volumes. Operation Anadyr 1962 of the year was for our fleet unscientific fantasy.

September 10 The Strait of Gibraltar passed the Black Sea missile cruiser "Moscow". Apparently, the BOD Admiral Kulakov should be along with it. Both ships went on a friendly visit to Venezuela.

In Sevastopol, the rocket boat P-334 "Ivanovets" and the MRC "Shtil" are preparing to go to the Mediterranean. The ships of these projects are designed to operate in the Black and Baltic Seas. But in the 1970 – 80-ies, they successfully operated as part of the 5-th operational squadron in the Mediterranean.

Thus, the 11 of May 1973 of the rocket boat P-83 in tow at the MB-123 and the rocket boat P-84 in tow at the PRTB-13 floating base left Sevastopol to solve the tasks of military service in the Mediterranean. In the period of the combat service tasks, the tactical exercise “Attacking a missile strike of the RCA on 503 operational connection from the tracking position” was carried out by the designation force actually located at the theater, AVU “Independence” EM URO “Richard E. Burk”, TCR “Vreeland”. 2362 miles passed by boats.

More recently, the P-60 rocket boat, equipped with the Palash complex, escorted the BDK Minsk to Syria with a particularly valuable cargo.

LEAD FLEET IN ORDER

And what else can the Black Sea Fleet send to Syria? One or two small warships? Of the remaining large ships, BOD Kerch is in fact in a state of conservation (in the reserve of the 2 category). His team consists approximately of 20 people. For a trip to the Mediterranean Sea "Kerch" requires months of maintenance.

Of the two submarines listed as part of the Black Sea Fleet, the Alrosa is under repair in the South Bay. All the last 10 years the boat has been chronically repaired, now in Sevastopol, now in the Baltic, now in Novorossiysk. Well, the submarine B-380 "Saint George" for years 20 has been in the PD-16 floating dock with the flying flag of St. Andrew. The float is trophy, Germanic, has long rotted, and it is not possible to bring the boat out. For four years, the admirals have been puzzled how to remove the B-380 from the dock. Someone had the original idea to introduce the PD-16 along with the boat into the larger dock of the PD-30, and then the PD-16 to be disassembled, and the boat, if possible, to withdraw and turn into a training station. So the combat-ready submarines on the Black Sea are “mute”.

According to the “knowledgeable” Sevastopol residents, the hospital ship “Yenisei” could be sent to Syria. Background: On May 17 of the year, the hospital ship Yenisei sailed from the Baltic Fleet with a full displacement of 1981 18, 875 speed, knots, 19 cruise range, thousands of miles (10 hub). It housed a hospital for 16 beds, a dispensary for the rest of crews for 100 seats, a clinic, a sauna and a helipad. The ship had three (!) Operating rooms, resuscitation, X-ray, ultrasound, a concert hall, a swimming pool, etc.

Over the next 20 years of service "Enisey" 16 once performed the tasks of military service in the Mediterranean. Only in the Mediterranean on board 200 abdominal operations were performed.

Since 1992, the Yenisei has been in the South Bay. His medical equipment is well mothballed. After docking (up to seven days during operational work), the vessel may leave Sevastopol. True, the dock PD-30 is now busy - there are standing, allegedly repairing ships: MPK, TSC and US-138. But you can bring them in a few hours.

"Yenisei" off the coast of Syria can perform a variety of tasks. For example, treatment and evacuation of the wounded. Well, besides, on such a large ship, without dismantling medical equipment, you can deliver anywhere hundreds of people and hundreds of tons of various cargoes. By the way, in the 1970 – 80-s in the Mediterranean Sea, “Yenisei” repeatedly participated in various “delicate” operations.

Why is "Yenisei" still in Sevastopol? A number of admirals and civilians two years ago decided to turn this unique hospital ship to a floating hotel. He had long been going to be sent to Bulgaria for re-equipment, and then to the eternal parking in Sochi in time for the Olympics, and then it was supposed to be used as an ordinary hotel.

The events in Syria make us once again recall the phrase of Peter the Great: "Every Potentate who has an army has one hand and who has a fleet has two hands." Regardless of the outcome of the conflict in the Middle East, an urgent need is to put in order the Russian fleet and make Sevastopol a full-fledged main base of the Black Sea Fleet, where the most modern ships and submarines will be located.

HARD CHOICE OF KYIV

In conclusion, a few words should be said about the position of Ukraine in the Syrian conflict. To begin with, the Ukrainian Navy did not send and are not going to send their ships to the Mediterranean Sea. Rumors about the sending there of the flagship of the UVMS frigate "Getman Sagaidachny" (until 2 on April 1993, the border TFR "Kirov") do not correspond to reality. 9 – 10 of September “Sagaidachny” went for two days to combat training, and then he will go to the shores of Somalia to fight pirates.

Official Kiev would most likely unconditionally support the position of the United States and France on the Syrian issue. If ... Ukrainian lads would not fight on the side of the rebels.

On September 10, the Syrian ambassador to Ukraine, Mohammed Said Akil, said that during the fighting, the presence of Ukrainian citizens fighting on the side of the opposition, including the Crimean Tatars, was noted.

I note that Ukrainian legislation prohibits mercenary. For recruiting mercenaries in Ukraine laid from 3 to 8 years in prison. And participants in hostilities abroad are awaiting imprisonment from 5 to 10. But in Ukraine, laws are executed the same way as 400 years ago, when it was part of the Commonwealth. Quite a few Ukrainian Ukrainians in August 2008 fought in Georgia and later boasted of it openly, but none of them were brought to justice.

Alas, Syria is not Georgia, and not Lviv lads are fighting there, but Salafis from Belogorsk, Bakhchisaray and other regions of Crimea.
From only one village Sary-Su, located on the outskirts of Belogorsk, at least three people left for Syria. One of them has already died, another one is seriously wounded.

The dead citizen of Belogorsk turned out to be 20-year-old Abdulla Dzhepparov, who last year left for Turkey bordering on Syria, after which nothing was known about him for a long time. Together with Dzhepparov his cousin named Czhedet left. Later it turned out that both guys were in Syria, where they exploded in a minefield. As a result, Abdullah died and his brother was seriously injured.

According to the Kiev television, on the side of the opposition are fighting over 100 of the Crimean Tatars. Is it a lot or a little? Few, if it were a team of hodgepodge soldiers of fortune from all over Ukraine. Many, when 100 Salafi activists gain such valuable combat experience. Crimea will get 100 experienced potential field commanders.

Among the Crimean Muslims, the idea of ​​supporting the Syrian opposition has been gaining popularity lately. In particular, that the adherents of Islam should support the opponents of the ruling regime in Syria, representatives of the organization Hizb-ut Tahrir openly declare in Crimea. It was they who held 5 on August 2012, in Simferopol, a numerous rally "in support of the Syrian people." According to the organizers, more than 3 thousand people took part in the action.

And 1 March 2013, representatives of the Hizb-ut Tahrir movement staged a campaign called “One Ummah, One Flag, One War” right in the courtyard of the Khan’s Palace in Bakhchisarai.

In the Crimean Tatar Mejlis (the illegal ethnic “parliament”) and in the Crimean muftiate they condemned those who go to war abroad. Representatives of both organizations are concerned that militants are recruited by sectarian structures not controlled by them. “We cannot know whether this war is really a righteous jihad, therefore, from the religious side, participation in such a conflict is condemned,” said the deputy mufti of Crimea, Ayder Ismailov.

In my opinion, Ismailov keeps back. The main reason is the desire of the leadership of the Crimean Tatars to hide the actions of the militants in Syria and the creation of illegal military and political structures in the Crimea itself. The Mejlis is now extremely unprofitable conflict with Kiev, and with the Russian-speaking majority of the population of Crimea. Obviously, there is an economic component. Increased tension in the Crimea will inevitably lead to a sharp decrease in the number of holidaymakers on the peninsula, which will hurt the Tatar business.

Official Kiev was in an extremely difficult situation. Support Russia? Get a beating out of the Washington Regional Committee. And, on the other hand, both the Donetsk and Lviv "chaps" are extremely afraid of the victory of the opposition in Syria and the return of the victory of the Crimean militants.

In the meantime, the 36-I, a separate mechanized coastal defense brigade deployed in the Crimea, is intensively working out ... actions in the mountains. What is coastal defense? The brigade is preparing for counter-guerrilla actions. Against who?
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  1. alone
    alone 24 September 2013 18: 56 New
    +5
    Well, on August 29, a NATO squadron entered the Sevastopol as part of the German ship base А512 Mosel, the German minesweeper М1061 and the Turkish minesweeper М264. From this it was immediately possible to conclude that Germany would not participate in the attack on Syria, at least in the autumn of the 2013 year.


    I got the opinion that the striking force of the German fleet is the floating base "Mosel" minesweeper М1061
    1. Civil
      Civil 24 September 2013 20: 00 New
      +5
      Signs and tablets in Russian banned in Ternopol


      Meanwhile
  2. Ascetic
    Ascetic 24 September 2013 19: 16 New
    10
    On September 10, the Syrian ambassador to Ukraine, Mohammed Said Akil, said that during the fighting, the presence of Ukrainian citizens fighting on the side of the opposition, including the Crimean Tatars, was noted.


    First Deputy Director of the FSB of the Russian Federation Sergey Smirnov said that there are 300-400 mercenaries from Russia in Syria... According to him, among the militants in Syria there are also immigrants from Kazakhstan, China, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.
    link
    So this once again confirms the thesis that after finishing in Syria they will all rush "home"
    1. kris
      kris 24 September 2013 19: 30 New
      20
      everyone has long known about the Tatar training camps in Crimea.
      a long pimple flirted with the Majlis as opposed to Russia.
      while the conflict is holding back the Tatar resort business.
      but now young growth is frostbite on the whole head,
      which after the Syrian experience will be even more frostbitten.
      and the conflict in Crimea is a matter of the next decade.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 24 September 2013 21: 40 New
        +9
        Quote: kris
        a long pimple flirted with the Majlis as opposed to Russia.

        Krymchaks started playing. It’s time to remind them that before them it was the Russian-Greek peninsula. And then, the primordially Tatar lands ... what are your lands, Svyatoslav let your ancestors long ago across the world.
      2. roial
        roial 24 September 2013 22: 01 New
        -4
        Quote: kris
        everyone has long known about the Tatar training camps in Crimea.


        ??? Enlighten please ???
        1. kris
          kris 24 September 2013 23: 49 New
          0
          Quote: roial
          ??? Enlighten please ???

          OK. I will make a selection and you in PM.
    2. Lech from ZATULINKI
      Lech from ZATULINKI 24 September 2013 19: 35 New
      +6
      Participants in the hostilities against the Syrian government army began to return to Tatarstan, Rais Suleimanov, head of the Volga Center for Regional and Ethno-Religious Studies of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies, said on Thursday.

      One group of Tatar Wahhabis, according to R. Suleimanov, returned to Almetyevsk (270 km from Kazan), led by a Syrian Arab who arrived in Russia under the guise of a refugee, and this group hastily moved to Mari El, the source said.
      “Given that many of them have combat experience, Tatar Wahhabis can join the forest Wahhabi underground of the Volga region, which is extremely necessary for people with terrorist activity skills,” warned R. Suleymanov.
      According to correspondents of the newspaper “Military-Industrial Courier”, news agencies ARMS-TASS and Interfax-AVN


      The same thing will soon happen in other republics, it is logical to expect after this surge of terrorist attacks on the territory of RUSSIA.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 24 September 2013 22: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
        Participants in hostilities against the Syrian government army began to return to Tatarstan, the head of the
        Interestingly, such returns immediately fall into the development of the FSB, and here some, excuse me, et n o graf, has such delicate information, and even shares it with journalists.
    3. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 24 September 2013 22: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Ascetic

      So this once again confirms the thesis that after finishing in Syria they will all rush "home"

      The Israeli media reported that several Israeli Arabs moved to Syria through Jordan and are fighting in the squads of thugs. So here we almost openly wish them to die there. For the maximum that they face in Israel upon return is up to 5 years for visiting an "enemy state". It is more than difficult to prove what they were doing there.
      1. In the reeds
        In the reeds 25 September 2013 09: 50 New
        +1
        Well, we have the most humane court in the world, wash him by the leg
        1. In the reeds
          In the reeds 25 September 2013 10: 04 New
          0
          And after 3 years, when he will be forced to take him out for good behavior, he will be very angry, because he did not have time to complete a free higher education
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 25 September 2013 01: 12 New
      0
      Quote: Ascetic
      First Deputy Director of the FSB of the Russian Federation Sergey Smirnov said that there are 300-400 mercenaries from Russia in Syria.


      The terrorists themselves have already stated that there is a battalion of mercenaries, about 1000 people, purely from the Russian North Caucasus.
    5. Bombowoz
      Bombowoz 25 September 2013 06: 18 New
      +1
      So we need to make sure that they stay there.
  3. biglow
    biglow 24 September 2013 19: 25 New
    +7
    the crisis in Syria is a very good reason for the rapid rearmament and modernization of the Black Sea Fleet. Now Putin can double-squeeze the yanyk to sign the necessary agreements. Sevastopol is probably the only city in Ukraine where many people live happy with their salary. Citizens of the Black Sea Fleet receive very good salaries by local standards, and this has had a very good effect on security. There are no leaks about what is happening in the Black Sea Fleet units, everyone is silent good
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 24 September 2013 20: 58 New
      +3
      yanyka didn’t press it west already.
    2. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 29 September 2013 23: 31 New
      0
      the crisis in Syria is a very good reason for the quickest rearmament and modernization of the Black Sea Fleet



      And who or what is hindering the restoration and modernization of KChF?
    3. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 29 September 2013 23: 49 New
      0
      And this has had a very good effect on security. There are no leaks about what is happening in the Black Sea Fleet units, everyone is silent




      Have you checked the maintenance of the counterintelligence regime in Sevastopol and its environs?
  4. fklj
    fklj 24 September 2013 19: 27 New
    +4
    Regardless of the outcome of the conflict in the Middle East, it is urgently necessary to put in order the Russian fleet and make Sevastopol a full-fledged main base of the Black Sea Fleet, where the most modern ships and submarines will be located.

    It's good. Just perfect!
    And who is always stopping the Russian leadership from reforming (in a good way) the army and navy? Some conversations, promises every year. And as the United States and the United States begin to greyhound in response: an urgent need to put in order the Russian fleet
    Until the thunder strikes? It has been rattling for a long time. While far away.
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 25 September 2013 06: 39 New
      +1
      It is not necessary to reform the Black Sea Fleet, it is NECESSARY to RESTORE the combat readiness of the Black Sea Fleet to the USSR-ov level.
      Enough reforms, they have already reformed us to such a weakness that Russia has moved from a superpower to the category of a "developing state."
      The word "reform" must be thrown out of the lexicon of Russian politicians, in view of their constant use of it as a synonym for the word "destruction."
  5. 020205
    020205 24 September 2013 19: 42 New
    +2
    According to the "knowledgeable" Sevastopol,and I wonder what kind of "well-informed" Sevastopol people are?
  6. rugor
    rugor 24 September 2013 19: 56 New
    +6
    And who is constantly stopping the Russian leadership from reforming (in a good sense) the army and navy?


    A good deed cannot be called a reform
  7. Rus2012
    Rus2012 24 September 2013 20: 01 New
    +1
    But now, the presence of JBF on Panteleev and Undaunted is unlikely.


    ... dubious assumption :)
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 29 September 2013 23: 38 New
      0
      But now, the presence of JBF on Panteleev and Undaunted is unlikely., ... a dubious assumption :)


      There is no place to place on Undaunted nuclear warheads, but instead of small-sized torpedoes, the Vodopad system. PLUR The waterfall was loaded with a small torpedo, with an ordinary BZO (combat charging compartment), and the Panteleev BLK with the Rastrub complex.
  8. Cristall
    Cristall 24 September 2013 20: 10 New
    +6
    Where are the premises to say that Kiev will support France and the United States? We have seen here, no worse than yours, from Yugoslavia to Libya what is happening and nowhere, even in the corrupt media, did they say this just deed of democracy ...
    it is neutral
    and also you forget how many Ukrainians and former Ukrainians are in Syria (wives of their children, for example, Syrians)
    You should not do stuffing - Like Kiev is sleeping and sees itself in the forefront of the approval of the State Department ... for this there are the Baltic states. By the way, it is true Sharpie was detained for 3 hours - and the media raised the howl that was compared to the Candy War. well, yes .. 2 weeks and three hours .. almost the same thing.
    The article is correct, but only for a certain category ... but I frankly did not like the stuffing in our direction. I am for the ChMF base in Sevastopol, it has been there since his birth. Plus order and safety. But such stuffing on Kiev - which did not contradict Moscow in anything on the Syrian issue (and, by the way, during the trade war he could press the fleet again, but did not) and took the neutral side.
    I leave for the Crimea at night.
    1. major071
      major071 24 September 2013 21: 06 New
      +7
      I completely agree with you, but who will listen to you? The government has decided everything. This applies not only to Ukraine, but also to Russia.
    2. Andrey57
      Andrey57 24 September 2013 21: 43 New
      +6
      Pressers, carcasses of light, did you pay a lot of attention in 2008? It was necessary - the fleet went out and went towards Georgia, at the same time, they forgot to ask Ukraine whether or not to give Georgians a head start laughing
    3. stroporez
      stroporez 24 September 2013 22: 00 New
      +4
      Quote: Cristall
      and also you forget how many Ukrainians and former Ukrainians are in Syria (wives of their children, for example, Syrians)

      in Russia there are many more. But Kiev didn’t stop at the jackal in the Chechen wars and in the Georgian .....................
    4. In the reeds
      In the reeds 25 September 2013 10: 27 New
      +1
      By the way, about Yugoslavia in Israel, all the media were against this war. We remember Czechoslovakia well. I bought Vesti for my mother in Russian and read it myself. There were quite a few Israelis (mostly of course "Russians") who volunteered to fight for Yugoslavia
  9. varov14
    varov14 24 September 2013 20: 17 New
    -8
    Interesting for what pluses? Did the author tell a potential enemy that our fleet is not worth a damn? Here it is information war in action, crucify here (on this site) in your awareness, what is itching? Patriots are bad
    1. fklj
      fklj 24 September 2013 20: 38 New
      +8
      Don't worry, those in the know won't grovel here smile
    2. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 29 September 2013 23: 41 New
      0
      Interesting for what pluses? Did the author tell a potential enemy that our fleet is not worth a damn? Here it is information war in action, crucify here (on this site) in your awareness, what is itching? Patriots are bad


      What secret did the author tell? Secret Petrushkin? The entire population of Sevastopol and its environs knows the state of the KChF.
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  11. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 24 September 2013 21: 11 New
    +1
    It would be necessary to acquire an airbase in Syria, Ruslans - then it would be more convenient to transfer cargo.
    And while we will bring the fleet to mind - we will lose Syria.
  12. VadimSt
    VadimSt 24 September 2013 21: 30 New
    +2
    Quote: Ivan Tarasov
    It would be necessary to acquire an air base in Syria

    We need to wait for the bankruptcy of Ukraine, and it is just around the corner, and redeem Sevastopol - the city of Russian Glory!
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 24 September 2013 21: 44 New
      +3
      Not the right approach to the shell!
    2. Ivan Tarasov
      Ivan Tarasov 25 September 2013 04: 34 New
      +1
      While we are waiting for the collapse of our neighbor, we will lose our own positions.
      The base would be necessary ...
  13. coserg 2012
    coserg 2012 24 September 2013 21: 41 New
    +1
    For some reason, the article reminds me of a summary of the gossip of Sevastopol. Now anti-aircraft systems are needed in Middle-earth, and nuclear weapons will be on water, or will fly under their own power.
    1. Black
      Black 24 September 2013 21: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: coserg 2012
      Nuclear weapons will be on the water, or fly under their own power.


      What the hell is nuclear weapons? Relax.
  14. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 24 September 2013 22: 41 New
    0
    Quote: coserg 2012
    For some reason, the article reminds me of a summary of the gossip of Sevastopol. Now in Middle-earth we need anti-aircraft complexes, ...

    If information, even if informal, is from Sevastopol, it should be treated with respect.
  15. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 24 September 2013 22: 46 New
    0
    Quote: VadimSt
    We need to wait for the bankruptcy of Ukraine, and it is just around the corner, and redeem Sevastopol - the city of Russian Glory!

    Strange to read.
    The Russians have never bought the Fatherland, although there was a deal, Tsar- (not a smart person) sold Alaska.
    However, the Russian blood in him was no more than a drop. And I suppose he let out that splinter.

    But seriously, they won't let us buy Crimea, they will force us to defend the Motherland ...
    1. VadimSt
      VadimSt 24 September 2013 23: 25 New
      +6
      But for me, a Russian living in Ukraine who voted for Yanukovych in the hope of rapprochement with Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, nothing is strange, even the desire voiced above!
      It is to buy back, since it cannot legally be resolved, and there is no other way. Sold their voters and the part that does not belong to them of their former homeland, will sell.
    2. In the reeds
      In the reeds 25 September 2013 10: 39 New
      0
      Sergey S. You should be beekeeping, maybe it’s arrived, not every bee can be a queen
  16. USMC
    USMC 24 September 2013 22: 46 New
    -3
    Quote: Patriot.ru.
    yanyka didn’t press it west already.

    Yanyk's only excellent solution for almost 4 years)))
  17. Strong
    Strong 25 September 2013 00: 06 New
    +3
    // So, on May 11, 1973, the R-83 missile boat towed by the MB-123 and the R-84 missile boat towed by the PRTB-13 floating base left Sevastopol to accomplish combat service tasks in the Mediterranean Sea. During the execution of the combat service tasks, the tactical exercise "Launching a missile strike by the TG RCA on the 503 operational formation from the tracking position" was carried out, the designation forces actually located in the theater, AVU "Independence" //

    This is unusual - boats came on a flexible hitch at the tugs, struck the AUG, back to the flexible hitch - and home. With the wind :)
  18. voin61
    voin61 25 September 2013 07: 00 New
    +1
    Let's remember the history ... Cossacks on their "seagulls" (combat boats of the Cossacks) shook Byzantium, in the Battle of Gangut (Sweden) Peter 1 destroyed the squadron with the help of galleys, in the Great Patriotic War Wehrmacht tanks were attacked by cavalry. Continue? Maybe we urgently need to create a flotilla of war rafts? ... We survived ... (But we didn't come to the elections!) Shame.
  19. Alexander I
    Alexander I 25 September 2013 09: 25 New
    +2
    Judging by the number of large landing ships, we will take the 6th US for boarding!
  20. pahom54
    pahom54 25 September 2013 09: 35 New
    0
    This crisis and the problem with the combat equipment of Russian ships once again proves that the Russian fleet must be rebuilt at an accelerated pace, no matter what the opponents say, justifying it with a huge load on the country's economy. The country and people, who do not want to have and feed their army and navy, will have to feed strangers, Bonaparte said this. It is necessary to quickly prepare the naval base not only in Novorossiysk, but also in other suitable places, so as not to depend on the "brotherly independent" Ukraine for anything. First of all, it is necessary to increase the combat readiness of the Black Sea Fleet, since all explosive and fire-hazardous conflicts are occurring (and may occur in the future) now mainly in the zone (at the theater) of its activities. And nuclear weapons must be returned to the ships without fail!
    1. biglow
      biglow 25 September 2013 13: 33 New
      0
      Quote: pahom54
      And nuclear weapons must be returned to the ships without fail!

      During 08.08.08, knowledgeable people said that in Sevastopol the "products" at the Black Sea Fleet are stored where necessary and everything is in order with them. ... Bandera's people are simply not supposed to know about it, that's why they don't make any noise ...
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 29 September 2013 23: 45 New
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        During 08.08.08, knowledgeable people said that in Sevastopol the "items" at the Black Sea Fleet are stored where necessary and everything is in order with them. ... Bandera's people are simply not supposed to know about it, that's why they don't make any noise.



        Knowledgeable people have two meter long tongues. They are called irresponsible talkers. You don't need a knife for a fool, you sing along a little and do with him what you want. Basilio Cat's song.
  21. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 25 September 2013 19: 08 New
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    Quote: VadimSt
    But for me, a Russian living in Ukraine who voted for Yanukovych in the hope of rapprochement with Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, nothing is strange, even the desire voiced above!
    It is to buy back, since it cannot legally be resolved, and there is no other way. Sold their voters and the part that does not belong to them of their former homeland, will sell.

    Buy? Who?
    Any action like buying and selling is now controlled by amers. Really ...
    They won't give us anything we need to buy ... the enemies are awake.
    So it turns out that even if we try to "buy" Sevastopol, Crimea, Ukraine, we will have to fight.
    At least as in 2008. But not with the Sevastopol brothers, Crimeans, Ukrainians, but with the Sashniks and their satellites.
    By the way, we must remember that both in Chechnya and in Georgia the Sashniks substituted Ukrainian lads instead of themselves.
  22. Stalinets
    Stalinets 25 September 2013 23: 36 New
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    Is it in connection with the war in Syria, exacerbate relations between Russia and Little Russia .... Because of the fleet .. As one of the reasons belay