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Results of the week. “Russians, surrender, we are a horde!” - “And us - army!”

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Will there be fewer conscripts?


Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that the number of conscripts in the Russian army from next year will begin to decline by tens of thousands of people due to the replenishment of the army with contract soldiers.



"We have recruits only where we need to prepare a mobilization reserve, and this is an important component of our approach. We finish calculating how much we will reduce the number of recruits. I can say much. The final figure, I think, we can name in November, but trust me - these are tens of thousands, "said Shoigu.

The Minister of Defense also stressed that the agency "ceases to chase" the number of conscripts and "catch" them at the military registration and enlistment offices.



The fact that in the Russian army, according to the Ministry of Defense, there will be more professional military personnel, is certainly wonderful. But ... These professional servicemen are still not from maternity hospitals in large quantities. Professional military need more, sorry, from the "semi-finished" the very Ministry of Defense and prepare. And for starters, to attract such “semi-finished products” to the contract service, or even the real “raw materials” in general. And while the task of attracting is not that completely solved ...

And the very words that, they say, we cease to strive, look like a kind of indulgence for potential draft dodgers. From such words, at the subconscious level of a young person, the thesis can work: “You just need to sit out a bit - they won't catch it anyway”.

Comments from our readers:

Apollon:
Quote-The complexity of weapons systems is such that we are not prepared for at least a year, at least two, to ensure that he can fight on this weapons"- emphasized Shoigu.

Absolutely right, but at the same time, in my opinion, at the same time, I think at times to increase the money allowance of contract servicemen by reducing the bloated bureaucratic apparatus.


Astra:
It is not necessary to catch them, even increasing the service life to 3 years if you issue a civilian passport after demobilization from the army, mowers do not issue passports at all, thereby depriving them of their citizenship and rights. Who really can not go into the army for health reasons, make a mark in the passport. Medical commission recruits under the control of the FSB. Then there will be no end from those who want to serve.


No_more:
Can shoot right away? Why do you need such a huge army of beggars? Now it’s normal to ensure that one soldier costs very good money. It must be admitted that the cost-effectiveness ratio of professional military is several times better. Not for nothing that they left the slave system, turned out to be a professional involved in the business of their personal choice much more efficiently hundreds of those who were forced to do anything by force.


VladimirZ:
Without a conscript army, without a mobilization reserve, which is being prepared for conscription, Russia, due to its large territory, numerous neighboring states, of which most are potentially hostile, will not be able to create an effective army capable of defending Russia's territorial immunity.
Is the experience stories Our state does not teach anything. Recall the year 1941, when the personnel Red Army was virtually destroyed, some died, and 3 million soldiers and officers were taken prisoner. The country was saved by a prepared mobilization reserve.
Yes, the storekeepers initially had little experience and knowledge, and the reserve officers (as they are now called “jackets”) had insufficient command skills, but they quickly learned and broke the backbone of the fascists. And what would have happened if the USSR did not have a mobilization reserve of soldiers and officers at that time, but only a cadre army? Defeat was guaranteed.
Therefore, appeals and the policy of transition to a contract army from the evil one is to the detriment of Russia.


How the North Korean border guards crabs counted

In 18: 30 (Moscow time) on 20 on September, the Russian fishing schooner Altai, following from the port of Zarubino with a cargo of live crab on board to the port of Donghe (Republic of Korea), was fired by automatic weapons and signal missiles by a warship in the neutral waters of the Sea of ​​Japan. Democratic People's Republic of Korea. The North Korean warship did not get in touch. Immediately after the shelling, Altai went into a drift, and armed people landed on its board from the warship of the DPRK. They carried out an inspection of the schooner and a survey of the captain. In 18: 50 the military left the ship, allowing it to follow its intended purpose. The ship was not damaged. The crew is alive and well.





North Koreans are funny guys. Now they don’t fall into those squares, or let their sunflower leaders give their girlfriends to the expense, then, now, they are firing at Russian ships from all the guns. And the last episode looks no less vague than those listed before it. If you believe the reports of domestic media, then our schooner walked in neutral waters, but the North Korean media claim that she entered the DPRK territorial waters. Go prove who is right and who is not: records from video recorders and floating border buoys with symbols of the country of conquering socialism, you know, no ... If everything really was in neutral waters, then it would be nice for the North Koreans to have a teapot at the diplomatic level. Wha what! Our crab wanted! Yes, we ourselves do not eat it, and not because of the great love for the inhabitants of the deep sea ...

Well, and if all the same not in neutral ... Doesn’t the words "the North Korean warship didn’t go out of communication" look vague? But how then to regard the shots of signal rockets, which are spoken of in the Federal Agency for Fishery? That is, it turns out that the captain of the fishing vessel was waiting only for the Morse Women from the ship of the DPRK, but stubbornly did not take the missiles as signals and continued high speed.

But it is not yet known whether the Altai fishing boat, which “safely” sent the Russian crab to the crab-loving South Koreans, was actually a Russian flag, on this fishing boat. And was there any flag on it at all? .. If it was and it was Russian, then it’s not a bad idea to convey the message to na: “you there, kid, lured something? ..” Well, and if you put it on the schooner called “cheap flag” (by the way, this is the official term) of Vanuatu or some Bermuda islands, the North Korean border guards could really make a mess of it: they didn’t hear the Russian mat after the start of firing of signal flares. In general, the story is still dark ...

Comments from our readers:

GreatRussia:
What means fired? Probably there were warning shots, the requirement to stop the ship? They made sure that this is not a South Korean ship, they let go in peace within a few minutes.


Nemec55:
While I eat crab sticks, they carry the crab to the port of Donghe (Republic of Korea) ...


Akim:
And how do you feel about the shelling of the Greenpeace vessel, which was grazing near the Gazprom drilling rig in northern latitudes?


Ruslan_38:
The North Korean border guards did the right thing, in the conditions of hard pressure in which they live, you can expect any provocations. However, having learned that this is a ship of a friendly country - they let him go, I don’t think they would do the same with the courts of other countries. And with Greenpeace is another matter, they knew where and why they were going, they knew about the prohibitions, it was an obvious provocation. Greenpeace by the way does not touch the American platform, do not interfere with the extraction of shale gas and other resources - why would such concessions for amers? Apparently Greenpeace is another project of the CIA, the NSA or the State Department.


Yanukovych: and we will go to the west ...

18 September 2013 of the year, the Ukrainian government, in unison, expressed approval of the draft agreement, according to which Ukraine chooses the European vector of development, namely the association agreement with the EU. Now Viktor Yanukovych, who pushed the Cabinet to this decision, has only to endorse this document. At the next stage, Ukraine will wait for the decision of the European Union itself that it is ready to be associated with Ukraine. Apparently, such an EU decision will be made at the next EU summit, which will take place in a couple of months in Vilnius.





The term “association” itself seems to be okay. Well, few people associate with the European Union ... Today, such an agreement was signed by more than two dozen states from various continents: Morocco and South Africa, for example, Chile and Lebanon ... But only in the case of the decision of the Ukrainian authorities, everything is politicized. Yanukovych doesn’t leave the language: well, what did you get, Putin! Now I'm not going to hang around with Russia - there was nothing to stop our sweets at customs and gas for half a bucks to sell us!

In general, while in the camp of the Ukrainian authorities reigns supreme euphoria, and some politicians even experience dizziness due to success: whether the EU representative himself was joking at the Ukrainian government meeting, and even the entire deputy secretary general of NATO praised in absentia for work: go the right way, Viktor Fedorovich! After all, Chileans or Moroccans did not clap at NATO after signing the association agreement with the EU. Chile will be far away from Russia ...

And Yanukovych even envied Yushchenko ...

Comments from our readers:

Grigorich 1962:
I can only regret the prospect of a fraternal people.


Nataliya:
By the way, did you notice yes? As soon as Yanukovych became compliant, the EU immediately forgot about Tymoshenko ... I think that Yanukovych was frightened that if he was an "inconvenient" partner for the EU, then the European "brothers" would force Yulia to release, and then Yulia would plant Viktor. So I think that the choice of EuroAndA is based not so much on economic considerations, as on the fear of Viktor Fedorovich himself ... He was afraid that the EU members would give Yulia a chance, a chance to take revenge ... Well, hide him behind bars, as an option. Daaaaaaa ... politics.


Misantrop:
In Simferopol, the day before yesterday on Kirov Ave., there was a hefty rally against association with the EU, has it been mentioned at least the WORD? Though there is something? Even in the local media on this topic silence is complete ...


Stem exchange

In recent years, the Russian defense industry has faced a rather non-trivial problem. Suddenly (!) It turned out that the bins of the Motherland are full of small arms of varying degrees of antiquity. Against this background, in 2011, the military simply stopped purchasing new AK-74M machines, and Izhevsk gunsmiths could not offer a fundamentally new development to the military then. It is reported that at present in the warehouses of the Russian Defense Ministry about 16 has accumulated millions of trunks of various small arms, most of which are just Kalashnikov assault rifles. At the same time, almost 6,5 of millions of them have already developed their entire resource. Analysts say that the presence of such a huge number of small arms of Russia is useless. The Ministry of Defense in case of war is enough 3-4 million trunks in warehouses, the remaining copies must either be sold for export, or upgraded, or disposed of.

"Kalash" bullpup. Alteration of "Kalash" Russian craftsmen


According to officials, the new Kalashnikov assault rifles, the AK-12, are expected to come into service with the Russian army as early as 2014.



The arrival of new weapons in military units is great. However, first you need to still put this new weapon, to follow how it manifests itself, what kind of feedback it will receive from those who will use it for the masses. If everything goes smoothly and without any other excesses (restrictions or transfer of funding, for example, what the gentlemen from the Ministry of Finance have already tried to convey to us), then we can start talking about recycling or selling old weapons. Why, while it is also necessary to rationally approach the calculation of the number of barrels, which will be necessary in the case (God forbid, of course) of a big war. The words of the representatives of the Ministry of Defense in the style of "enough 3-4 millions" in this context look a bit strange. And what if "not quite" ...

And in the end, why? - the extra reliable (proven at all 100%) trunks in the warehouses bother someone. If they interfere, then let, as they say, justify why it interferes, and how much their disposal will cost. And that, you understand, "developed a resource". Kalashnikov assault rifles? .. Have you developed a resource? .. Oh well ...

Comments from our readers:

Denis:
Hang out to grief-analysts! The story of pig-east about cutting missiles teaches nothing? Let it be, once already released.


Metlik:
Al Qaeda is preparing religious fanatics for world jihad. It is necessary to arm them with something. Let's ask Russia for gratuitous help. In the same place, the government will give weapons to anyone, but not to its own citizens.


Onotolla:
A decent Russian man will provide living space for AK, SVD, RPG of any modifications; ammunition by agreement. Timely service is guaranteed. We will agree on payment.


"Munich-2" by Vladimir Putin

The past week was the week of the anniversary (10-th in a row) meeting of the international discussion club "Valdai".



The anniversary "Valdai" was marked by a very nontrivial speech on it by the Russian president. Its non-trivial nature was that, in a fairly short period of time, Vladimir Putin was able to tell the audience about his understanding of not only the development of the domestic political system in Russia, but also conveyed to them, let's say, his feelings about the global world order. Putin’s speech at the site of the Valdai Discussion Club in many ways reminded him of his six-year-old speech, which political analysts called the Munich speech. Recall that in February 2007 of the year (therefore, even before the “heyday” of Arab and other “springs”) Putin severely criticized the desire of certain countries (of course, primarily the United States) to finally make the world unipolar. Then Putin condemned the policy of expanding NATO to the east, criticized the rich countries for "preserving" the backwardness of the third world countries, and recalled that there is no country in the world that could take legal functions as a world police officer. Much of this sounded in the Valdai Club.



Putin once again tried to convey to the so-called world community the idea that the unipolar system, which a separate group of countries and their vassals persistently advocates, has become obsolete, that international law does not imply the existence of "good" and "bad" states, and that there are no “good” and “bad” nations in the world. Attempts to solve international problems “in one person” can lead the planet to chaos, which, in principle, is observed today from the north of Africa to the Afghan ridges and is stubbornly called by someone “victorious democracy”.

Comments from our readers:

Ivshubarin:
There are now no politicians at the level of Putin in the world, he would have more competent economists to help.


Valery Neonov:
Power cannot be perfect, as it’s impossible to grill: “You will not be good for everyone,” and if you do, it will be to the detriment of oneself, in this case to the detriment of the state. Is not it?


Domestic troops are alerted

From 10 on the morning of September 17, the Internal Troops of the Ministry of the Interior of Russia began to live according to a new routine - they were brought to full alert. It is known that a sudden check of the combat readiness of this structure was carried out by order of the Supreme Commander Vladimir Putin. But the announcement of full combat readiness is associated with large-scale combined-arms exercises.

Results of the week. “Russians, surrender, we are a horde!” - “And us - army!”


The press service of the Interior Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia announced that the troops would take part in special exercises "West - 2013". At a time when units and formations of the Ministry of Defense will fight with a conditional enemy, the Internal Troops are entrusted with the tasks of territorial defense. This is a fight against sabotage and reconnaissance groups, terrorist formations and enemy landing forces, taking highly important objects under enhanced protection. Within a day, the organization of interaction with the bodies of military administration, the executive power of the subjects and local self-government should be worked out.



If we take into account that in recent years 20 laid down on Internal Troops, perhaps the biggest burden for ensuring the security of the country, then their inclusion in large-scale exercises is more than justified. With the number of fighters (about 180 thousand) and military equipment, with the tasks that the military personnel of the Russian Federation's military personnel is recognized today, effective training should be systematic. I am glad that a start.

Comments from our readers:

Stockbat:
In the course of the exercise "West-2013" of the MVD of the MVD, tasks were carried out to combat the sabotage groups in the territory of the Crimea, the District of Columbia, and the city of Brussels. Illegal armed groups destroyed, no losses. (smile).


Nursultan:
Good luck to them in the teachings. As they say, it is hard to learn, easy in battle.


So what will Yevkurov do with the houses of terrorists and their accomplices?

In the week, the re-elected president of Ingushetia, Yunus-Bek Yevkurov, made a statement, which caused a great resonance.

For the edification of people who sympathize and help criminals, the homes of families who sheltered the bandits will be torn down and land plots taken away.




The house in which the gangster lived will be demolished and the land withdrawn. At this place we will build an apartment building for the village specialists. In addition, all those who will provide shelter, food and other assistance to gangsters will become defendants in criminal cases of aiding the militants. It should be clear to everyone: if you let a person into a house, you are responsible for him.




The main discussion flared up around whether it is legitimate to solve such issues as “demolish or not demolish?”, “Evict or not evict?” At the level of a regional official. Opinions, as usual, divided. In the meantime, supporters and opponents of the President of Ingushetia expressed by breaking a spear, Yevkurov himself declared that he was not misunderstood. He stated this during a direct telephone line with the TK "Rain":

You have the wrong information, no one is going to demolish houses where families live. There is a question about those non-residential premises where militants or bandits are. Last year, we also returned a number of sites in Nazran to municipal property, and built social facilities on them, and in settlements, where non-residential premises, buildings, these places will be cleaned up and there will be social facilities. And where families live, naturally, no one will evict families. If the fact of harboring gangsters is noticed, the law of the Russian Federation will be in effect, according to which they will be held accountable for aiding.


In general, the sensation, apparently, did not happen. Yevkurov realized that he had missed the legal edge and decided to give it back. Well, now it remains to break the spears about whether the Ingush president should have been given back, or even go all the way ...

Comments from our readers:

Nick:
Of course, it’s not legal to dub with inhabitants, but it is necessary to isolate them from society for long periods and with confiscation of property. If there is no such article in the Law, then it should be adopted. The response to a crime must be adequate and have an educational effect.


Domokl:
The normal solution. And the remains of suicide bombers should be buried publicly, in pigskin skin. Experience Yermolov forgotten? What a paradise for such an Islamist, will Muslims know. The only thing now is howling will rise serious everywhere. Human rights and other crap ...


Atalef:
As practice shows, this is one of the few measures that, if not stopping a potential terrorist, so at least makes the survivors and their relatives thinking about the welfare think about them, forcing them to report on the bandyugan. In Israel, it works and for a long time, there was a time when, under the influence of humanoids, they seemed to have succeeded in demolishing a house, but only bricking up the room of a terrorist. As practice has shown, this solution is not effective.


The economy is leaving, the policy remains

Last Monday, two Chinese military frigates passed a hundred kilometers from the Senkaku Islands (they are Diaoyu Dao), the same ones that visited the area in August. The island zone then circled the UAV. On Tuesday morning, seven PRC patrol ships appeared at once near Senkak. Later he came up to the eighth. In the press, such a “call” of the maritime police was called the “most widespread”. Japan found the answer: it announced its intention to deploy state employees on Senkaku. And on Saturday, four ships of the Naval Forces of the Celestial Empire again visited the waters of the disputed islands.



As Maxim Makarychev writes ("Russian newspaper"), Tokyo expressed a protest to China in connection with the appearance of patrol ships in the area of ​​disputed islands. Also, a representative of the Japanese government said that Japan "could establish a small station on the islands, where a certain number of civil servants would work in order to protect their sovereignty." The Secretary General of the Cabinet Yoshide Suga expressed "deep regret" at the fact that the Chinese ships repeatedly entered "the territorial waters of Japan."

A year ago, the Japanese government bought three islands from a private owner, so the exchange of "gifts" fell on the day of the nationalization of the disputed islands. Relations between Beijing and Tokyo are experiencing the peak of the "ice age", said Viktor Fedorov ("Voice of Russia"), precisely because of the island dispute.

In both China and Japan, the conflicting dish is thickly seasoned with a sauce of nationalism. According to the latest sociological survey, about 93% of Japanese have a negative attitude towards China; they are reciprocated by 90% of Chinese. At the same time, the number of Chinese dissatisfied with the situation in the East China Sea doubled in a year, reaching 80%. More than a third of the Chinese people believe that in the future the two countries will face an armed conflict.

In the material of Gleb Kostarev (RBC) September 16 states that Japanese companies are reducing investment in China and withdrawing production capacity from there. The reason for all this is not only the rise in price of the Chinese labor force, but also the aggravation of bilateral political relations over the islands. Japanese business switches to Indonesia, Philippines, Myanmar, Vietnam.

“Japanese investments in Southeast Asia increased by 55% in the first half of this year, to 10,29 billion. In particular, investment in the Philippines grew by 80%, Vietnam - 34%, and Indonesia - 19%. At the same time, the inflow of Japanese capital to China fell by 31%, to 4,93 billion dollars, according to data from the Organization for the Promotion of Foreign Trade of Japan. ”


Cited as an example the company "Showa", supplying components for "Toyota" and "Nintendo". It will open the first factory abroad, not in China, but in Thailand.

“Until recently, I asked myself whether China would not be a better choice, because it is a larger market, and our customers have many more factories there. However, in the end, I decided to go where people love you, not hate you, ”said Kazumas Hirano, President of the Wall Street Journal.

Lenin once wrote, we add from ourselves that "politics is the most concentrated expression of the economy" and that "politics cannot but take precedence over economics." If this is true of the Land of the Rising Sun and the Celestial Empire, then the economists of the two countries should study whether it is more profitable to keep investment and cooperation, or to start a war for oil off the islands. After all, it is already clear that neither of the two sides intend to concede the islands, nor share the wealth in their waters. Two states observe economic disadvantages instead of pluses: after all, both the Chinese and the Japanese have moved from “love” to “hate”.



Comments from our readers:

xetai9977
Both sides are determined. It may well come to armed conflict.


eplewke
Fight, let them fight. Only here from Japan in the first week there will be nothing left. Disappeared as a nation. We, too, do not need China at the border too ...


Anatole Klim
On the territory of Japan are American military bases, there is a Japanese-American security treaty, according to which the United States guarantees Japan protection from a nuclear attack. Only therefore the Japanese do not possess nuclear weapons. I think if there is a conflict, then local and at sea.


Flightless Presidents

The United States denied visas to members of the Venezuelan delegation, which met at the UN General Assembly in late September. This was reported by Nicolas Maduro, transmits "RT" with reference to France Press.



Foreign Minister Elias Howa had previously announced that the United States had refused to allow Maduro aircraft traveling to China to enter its airspace (over Puerto Rico). True, the visit will not be canceled: an alternative route will be developed for the flight.

During the official meeting with the South African counterpart Mayte Nkoana-Mashabane, the Minister said: "We received a message from the American authorities that our aircraft is not allowed to fly in their airspace." He added: “We condemn this act of aggression by North American imperialism against the Bolivarian Republic. No one has the right to refuse to provide an air corridor to an airplane of a president flying on an international visit. There was no reason for that. ”

Maduro noted that the provision of visas to the entire Venezuelan delegation "is a duty" of the United States and promised in response to the "Washington aggression" to take "tough diplomatic measures."

As transmits correspondent RIA Novosti Oleg Vyazmitinov, Bolivian President Evo Morales called on Latin American and Caribbean countries to withdraw their US ambassadors and refuse to participate in the UN General Assembly in protest against the US decision to close the airspace for the aircraft of the Venezuelan President. This was reported by the Bolivian agency "ABI".

“As a member of the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States (CELAC), we ask <...> to convene a presidential summit in order to seriously consider the issue of US arrogance,” said Comrade Morales, adding that at this meeting Bolivia “will support immediate recall of US ambassadors. "

Morales further stated that he would call on the governments of the countries of the Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America (ALBA) to refuse to participate in a meeting at the UN General Assembly in protest against the “insult” Maduro.

“We will be preparing an international lawsuit so that Obama and his government will be tried for crimes against humanity. This will be the best tool to protect the rights of states, ”Morales said.

If earlier, we add from ourselves, the United States was fascinated by the creation of no-fly zones, but now, it seems, they have opened the season of the game called “Flightless Presidents”. That is mocked at Evo Morales, now now over Maduro ... They show, you know, who is the boss on the planet.



Comments from our readers:

Peaceful military
... And more incidents with Venezuelans:
- a ban on the flight of the aircraft of the President of Venezuela;
- refusal to issue visas to the Venezuelan delegation.
This is the obvious crap offended teenager, stupid from the influx of hormones.
And also this teenager stunned by the costs of transitional age from resentment threatens to hurt Russia with bank assets.
But not funny.


wax
America works hard on self-isolation. Swollen on dollars before losing pulse.


Engagement from the bearded

A new character appeared in the media: a girl named Elizabeth O'Bagy, 26 years old, Ph.D., a respected and authoritative expert on Syria. Despite her youth, Elizabeth is well versed in the Syrian conflict, knows for sure that the war was unleashed by Assad, and not at all by hired elements and Al-Qaeda. As an expert, O'Beigi is so good that both John, Kerry and McCain both refer to her opinion. And not somewhere they link, but directly in the US Senate.



But what a bad luck: the other day it turned out that young Elizabeth was not only not an expert on Syria (she had never been there before), but also not a doctor. Not only ... But - everything in order.

Channel "RT", referring to The Huffington Post, notes that, having appeared on American TV, E. O'Beigi presented herself as an expert on Syria. Her credibility jumped as soon as McCain and Kerry began to refer to her work during a congressional discussion on the possibility of military intervention in Syria.

The trouble is that statements in the United States alone are not enough. It is known that Joe Biden recently discovered Neanderthals in the USA, but we urge to assess the situation objectively: a reasonable person is still found in the States.

While Mr. Kerry was telling the Congress about O'Beyghi’s experience, journalist Janine Giovanni suggested that the young researcher pretty much exaggerated her Syrian experience:

“Everyone who works in Syria as correspondents or researchers are incredibly cautious people. We try to protect each other. Many were shocked when the 26-year-old Ph.D., the so-called expert on Syria, who, as it turned out, had never been to Syria and about whom no one had ever heard, appeared on CNN and other channels. ”


Channel CNN reports that O'Beigi worked at the Institute of Military Studies as a senior analyst for a year. And earlier she worked here for several months as an intern.

The 30 of August in the Wall Street Journal published a review of O'Beigha, the same one that Kerry subsequently referred to and John McCain. According to the material, “extremists” and “moderates” in Syria exercise control over various areas of the country, and checkpoints are often set up only to differentiate influence. In addition, there are areas in Syria that are moderately controlled by moderate rebels. About this O'Beigi herself told CNN in an interview. Both Kerry and McCain agreed with the conclusions of the “expert,” and McCain even called her review “important.”

But here's the thing.

At first, the Wall Street Journal recognized O'Beygi only as a “senior analyst” from the institute, but later added an explanation that it belongs to the “Syrian Emergency Task Force” (“Syrian Emergency Group”) - a non-profit organization serving for a free democratic Syria and based in Washington.

O'Beigi herself tweeted that she never tried to hide her ties with the opposition and rebel commanders. September 7 Elizabeth wrote: "I am not trying to deceive America in this."

As for education, O'Beigi received a Master of Arts degree from Arabic Studies at Georgetown University in May 2013. O'Beigi now claims that she completed her Ph.D. thesis in late August.

CNN's editorial also notes that O'Beigi has appeared on several TV channels, including Fox, BBC, CNN and PBS. After exposing the self-proclaimed doctor, they no longer allow CNN.

And the channel Fox renounced the "expert" in Syria. Here they indicate that O'Beigi is an analyst who is not just loyal to the Syrian opposition, but also once sponsored for a group of extremist militants, on whose website anti-American pictures can be found - for example, with a burning Capitol.

Daniel Greenfield ("Frontpage Mag") points out that the “Syrian Emergency Group”, with which O'Beigi is associated, is an Islamist organization that is pushing American intervention in Syria today. The girl selling the product under the name "Sunni Islamist rebel agenda," perfectly suited the "Group" - until her career collapsed overnight.

And now the “Group” needs someone else who would go to CNN and explain to the public that the majority of the rebels are such moderate freedom fighters.

Stephen Al ("Examiner") bluntly writes that the Syrian Emergency Group is in favor of al-Qaida.

In the Western media, you can also stumble upon the statement that, they say, two naive - one senator and the other state executive of the highest echelon - turned out to be simple, believing O'Beighi’s impostor. It is as ridiculous as, for example, to believe in the statement that the Earth is flat and stands on whales and a tortoise. Another thing is that young Elizabeth was at the right time in the right place. Do not let her lie with a doctoral degree, she would probably have played the role of a button that would trigger the flywheel of the war in Syria.

The trouble is that Kerry and McCain as “evidence” are quite enough statements of some young art expert like Liz O'Beigi ...



Comments from our readers:

Civil
Anyway, the United States will bomb Syria, do not even hesitate.


Crocodile
It is possible that it will be so ...
But today we have won time - this is still the main thing! Time in this matter plays on us.
At the moment, it is obvious that the States have lost unconditional influence in the world. Amer need to look for another "reason" for strikes on Syria. Further promotion of the chemical attack issue 21.08.2013 increasingly exposes the Yankes in an unfavorable light all over the world. Here is another major "specialist" pierced, so that the amers seem to have started to lose their head completely, since they didn’t even care to issue a diploma to a necessary person! So while you can be happy for our special services and diplomats - they have done amers to the fullest.


eplewke
I do not think that they will bomb now. There are a lot of contradictions, a fragmented coalition, and even Russia and China. Too much on the scales. American international expansion is a blow, and Obama's advisers understand this perfectly well, and on the other side there is a huge amount of Saudi and Qatari capital invested in the Syrian war, and a lot of different interests. I think the prestige of the United States is more important for themselves, they can easily throw countries, not for the first time. And the current state of affairs says that the bombardment of Syria will hurt the prestige of the United States, since our president tried ...


Tersky
If the first persons of the state give a lie for the truth, then what about ordinary citizens of a free country? And "free" in the literal sense - from everything. From the truth, from responsibility for the “revolutions” and acts of terrorism organized around the world (both in other countries and on one’s own territory), from conscience and philanthropy. So Elizabeth O'Beigi was from whom and from what to learn ...


Their name is legion

The number of fighters fighting in Syria against Bashar Assad is about 100 thousands. About half of them are radical Islamists. The information about this is given by The Telegraph, citing the report of IHS Jane’s research center, "Lenta.ru".



Around 10, thousands of people are members of the most radical factions of jihadists, the most influential of whom are the Front of Nusra and the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant.

From 30 to 35, thousands of people are fighters who share the ideology of Islamic fundamentalism, but are focused on promoting his ideas within Syria rather than international struggle.

About 30 thousands belong to the moderate Islamist groups.

And only a relatively small part of the rebels (25-30 thousand) refers to the so-called secular opposition.

As noted by "RG" with reference to the RIA "News", Study author Charles Lister said:" In the illegal armed groups dominated by groups that at least share the ideas of the Islamists in this conflict. The idea that this conflict is driven by secular opposition groups is not justified. ”

Whatever one may say, we add on our own, but it turns out that bearded men are promoting the “secular” idea of ​​the White House in Syria. One will inevitably think that the most important Islamists are sitting in the White House ... Those who entangled the NSA's web of surveillance and who set records for the number of prisoners languishing in jail probably have their own idea of ​​democracy.



Comments from our readers:

Sandov
Well, amers have created a perfectly armed army of criminals. The task is done, like this, other people's hands drag chestnuts out of the fire.


Check
Apparently, Assad and the Syrians fell to clear the world of radical Islamists. They are there now, as I understand, an incredible concentration. I believe in the victory of Assad and his people. And may this nightmare end soon.


Hitler and pigs

На ресурсе Segodnya.ru a translation appeared Articles P. Roberts under the name “Violent screeching of pigs” (translator - Konstantin Dushenov).



“Putin’s September 11 article in The New York Times caused a harsh squeal of pigs. It was the very pigs you thought about — those with vested interests and benefits associated with the attack on Obama’s Nazi regime by Syria.

Among these shrieks, particularly prominent were human rights watch pigs from Human Rights Watch, whom the CIA appears to be funding from their back pockets. Curiously, is there anyone else among them who has not been bought off by Washington?

Note: the pigs criticize Putin for not allowing the Obama regime to bomb Syria and thus prevent massacres of innocent Syrians in the name of "human rights". Screaming pigs are genuinely outraged that Obama is forced to retreat. After all, they were so eager to extract the maximum benefits and profits from this mass slaughter. ”


As the publicist notes, Putin's critics are too “sick in the head" to understand that this humane article made V. Putin a real leader of the free world, as well as a defender of international law. As for Obama, he was always the "leader" of the outcasts, "gathered in his irresponsible, lawless government, entangled in lies and war crimes."

Putin mildly criticized Obama for his speech delivered on September 10. In it, Obama, the author recalls, tried to justify Washington’s lawlessness with “American exclusivity.” Obama, the publicist writes, represents his criminal regime in the position of a moral censor, arguing that "the government policy of the United States is exactly what makes us exceptional."

“Exactly what Obama told the Americans, before Hitler spoke to the Germans. The Russians, who have borne the brunt of the war with the German military machine, know how dangerous it is to encourage people to consider themselves exceptional. Therefore, Putin reminded Obama that "God made us equal."



Comments from our readers:

ivshubarin
There are still sensible people and courageous - Paul Craig Roberts.


Rattenfanger
Paul Craig Roberts, one of the most influential figures of the Reagan administration, the father of “Reygonomics”, criticizes the US administration and expresses words of support to Russia and its leader, the KGB colonel! Sur ...
Apparently, the case for them really smells of kerosene, since such a split among the American elite.


Surprise Liberal Economy

Economically advanced figures from the US Senate set out to arrange an artificial financial crisis in Russia. The harsh four "sanctioners" of 13 September appealed to the US Treasury with a call to block the access of some large Russian banks to the American financial system. We are talking about VTB, VEB and Gazprombank. Senators believe that these banks do business with the bloody Syrian regime and even take money from the latter for the C-300 air defense system. And in VTB, the chemical tyrant and poisoner of his own people, Asad, keeps his personal savings for a rainy day.



“According to numerous reports, such banks as VTB, VEB and Gazprombank are, as usual, doing business with Syria, repeatedly undermining the sanctions imposed by the United States, the European Union and the United Nations. Such activities, it was reported, include assisting Vnesheconombank in making payments for C-300 rocket systems, storing President Asad’s personal assets in VTB, payments from Gazprombank for oil, lead senators "Days. Ru" with reference to RIA "News".

A letter addressed to Jacob Lew was signed by Democratic Senators Richard Blumenthal, Gene Shaheen and Republicans John Cornyn and Kelly Ayotte.

These people believe that thanks to the assistance of Russian banks, the Syrian authorities are purchasing weapons and waging civil war. In this regard, the letter says: "We believe that these institutions are involved in the ongoing brutal conflict in Syria and should be denied access to the American financial system."

The four developed a proposal: the US Treasury Department should freeze the assets of Russian banks in the United States, prohibit them from operating on American territory and impose restrictions on foreign travel of employees.

In short, a mixture of financial sanctions with the "Magnitsky list."

Dni.ru also indicates that VTB has already denied senators ’claims about Bashar al-Assad’s personal accounts. The press service of the bank said: “The statements of four US senators are the dissemination of completely unreliable information. In the VTB group there are no accounts of the leadership of Syria. We regard the words of the senators as a provocative attempt to mislead the US public. ”

Olga Gritsenko ("Sight") recalls that earlier in the media more than once wrote about the cooperation of Russian state banks with Damascus. For example, last year, the Financial Times reported: “While Western banks stopped their ties with Syria, Russian financial institutions - VTB, Vnesheconombank, and Gazprombank — work with it in the usual way.” And in May 2013 of the year in the Western press passed the information that Syria paid the cost of six C-300 complexes through VTB. Finally, quite recently, Reuters claimed that in recent months Damascus had transferred almost 1 billion to Moscow for four C-300 and 550 million for Moscow for 36 Yak-130 combat aircraft.

According to the head of the Center for Analysis of the World Trade in Arms, Igor Korotchenko, the American initiative is just another “relapse of the Cold War thinking”. According to him, the introduction of sanctions against Russia can be regarded as arbitrariness: “This will be an unfriendly decision, and we, in turn, will have the right to retaliate, for example, to prohibit senators from entering Russia. We must respond to such tricks. In addition, the listed banks are respected in the international community, and international banks and financiers will negatively react to the initiative of US senators. ”

It is strange, of course, to believe, let us add on our own that the American senators will be frightened by such a terrible measure as a ban on visiting Moscow. On the other hand, it is too early to speak of retaliatory measures: it is extremely unlikely that the petition, signed by just four senators, would later become valid.

Nevertheless, the new document should be attached to a thick bundle of American papers that has accumulated on the so-called Syrian issue and which serves a single case, jointly promoted by the Persian Gulf monarchies, official Washington and the US military-industrial circles behind Congressmen: remove from power in Damascus, Assad and put there on the throne of some petty vassal from the "opposition", loyal to the White House and the Saudis from Qatar to the last pimple.

The petition of senators signals not only Russia and Syria, but the entire world community: Washington will not back down on the idea of ​​overthrowing Assad.



Comments from our readers:

GreatRussia
... It is enough to shut off the faucet near the pipeline to Europe, especially NATO member countries. And it’s not May, it’s not a month in the yard, but in the USA and geyro da Aleco it’s not the best economic situation.
But here's what began to take by the balls threats began to come in, this is the most reason to move, and not only to the above-mentioned banks, and not only in Russia.


Mart
You will not find understanding in the Ministry of Finance and the raw oligarchs. According to Comrade. Lenin, politics is the most concentrated expression of economics. And the overlap of the tap is a way not only to the budget deficit, but also to large penalties. And in general, the Europeans - they seem to be not Americans ...
Qatar, by the way, is just waiting for Russia to blunder with gas supplies. Another reason will be to accelerate the "democratization" of Syria.


vladsolo56
This is Russia's independent policy, laughter and only, and this is just a minor cause for disagreement, and if something serious happens, then America will bring down our economy in a matter of days. All normal economists and politicians in Russia have already spoken about this many times, but whoever listens to them, Uncle Sam has been in command of our government so far.


lewerlin53rus
It would be desirable to hope that such threats will force our government to force measures against untie our economy from green cut paper. And other states will seriously think about whether it is safe to invest in the US economy.


Russian sanatorium for Mr. McCain

In recent days, the famous Senator John McCain does not leave the strips of paper publications and looms on the screens of monitors.



As transmits "RT", the Republican senator stated that he would accept the invitation of President Putin to participate in the international Valdai Discussion Club, but he didn’t have time: “I would gladly accept the invitation if the schedule allowed me.” So the American politician wrote on Twitter.

Earlier, Vladimir Putin invited McCain to join the work of the Valdai Discussion Club: there he could fill in the gaps of his knowledge of the situation in modern Russia.

According to Pravda.ru, Alexander Brod, director of the Moscow Bureau for Human Rights, member of the Presidential Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights, commented on the McCain material: “Russians deserve better than Putin,” previously published on the same Pravde.ru.

“McCain is known for having for his part committed violations during election campaigns. Secondly, he sent a very strange letter in the last US presidential election to the Russian mission to the UN, where he asked for money for his election campaign. To which he received a completely justified answer that the Russian mission does not provide such financing. Perhaps it offended him too.

Further, if McCain is so interested in the development of the human rights situation, which prevents him from applying to the Russian Federation to ask for Russian citizenship, come here and fight for human rights directly in the country, without giving such very strange and non-specific recommendations. Getting McCain citizenship of the Russian Federation will give him the opportunity to be examined in the sanatorium of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. "


Alexander Brod called the McCain appeal the agitations of the Cold War era and stated that McCain was “late for years on 30-40”.

By the way, in his article (see resource Pravda.ru) Mr. McCain once again declared himself "pro-Russian."

“... It is not the first time when Russian citizens hear about me as their opponent. Since my goal today is to destroy the falsifications used by the rulers of Russia to preserve their power and justify corruption, let me start by correcting this lie. I am not anti-Russian. I am pro-Russian, more pro-Russian than the regime that controls you badly today. ”


As for the question of what “Pravda” the senator wanted to send the message to, the answer is here.

To this we must add that the American political theater, where the characters play themselves, is a very, very boring institution. Inevitably, you start to wonder at people who watch movies and TV shows. Why invent something when quite artistic heroes appear in reality? Just look at this acting series: D. McCain, H. Clinton and her husband Bill and her friend Monica, friend of the oppressed gay Obama, ideologist of the "overload" Michael McFaul, a couple of Vietnamese pacifists - Kerry and Hagel - and many others, against the background of which even the outstanding type of Zhirinovsky is fading ...



Comments from our readers:

Ascetic
Indeed, in order to get to the sanatorium of the Ministry of Defense without problems, without collecting countless certificates and waiting for the decision of the relevant department from the Serdyukovsk girls still sitting there (half a year), it is necessary to become McCain, then just white men in white coats will pick up under the white and free of charge sanatorium.


amp
McCain can appear in the Russian Federation only as a prisoner of war.
Visa can not be given to him.


Docent1984
Friends, yes, it’s necessary to rejoice that there are such as McCain) Well, judge for yourself who we would discuss if we weren’t - the dull, lean faces of some senators - well, boredom ... But this is a storehouse of pathetic idiocy - it’s kind of talent) That would be full-time televised debates McCain - Zhirinovsky! What are the millions of views, what "Yutyub" ... It would be a masterpiece)


* "Russians, surrender, us - the horde!" - "And us - the army!" (KVN, "Burnt by the Sun")
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  1. Civil
    Civil 22 September 2013 07: 16
    28
    The four developed a proposal: the US Treasury Department should freeze the assets of Russian banks in the United States, prohibit them from operating on American territory and impose restrictions on foreign travel of employees.


    1. Why do state banks hold assets in the US? What does the homeland not suit?
    2. What are they doing on American territory, with endless reductions in employees and branches in Russia ?!
    3. Why do not go responsible employees, for example, to the Far East?
    1. Lech from ZATULINKI
      Lech from ZATULINKI 22 September 2013 07: 33
      44
      Remember, at one time there was such a propaganda action from our beloved government to send training of government officials to the USA for an internship, now it has come to a hitch.
      As a rule, they undergo brainwashing there and return home, you can already say cosmopolitans who hate their homeland for various reasons.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 22 September 2013 09: 08
        50
        Alexander Brod called the McCain appeal the agitations of the Cold War era and stated that McCain was “late for years on 30-40”.

        smile

        Posters of the middle of the last century:





        Pre-war poster:
        1. michajlo
          michajlo 22 September 2013 13: 37
          17
          GreatRussia SU Today, 09:08 AM _130922 / wk

          Hello dear "nickname"!

          The cartoons you exhibited are good and in today's time have not lost their relevance. Thanks you! good
          1. GreatRussia
            GreatRussia 22 September 2013 13: 59
            +7
            Quote: michajlo
            Hello dear "nickname"!
            The cartoons you exhibited are good and in today's time have not lost their relevance. Thanks you!

            Hello! It's my pleasure! I actually posted them for relevance. smile


            Regarding the DPRK:


            Vanuatu or some Bermuda, then the North Korean border guards could really mess up: after the start of the firing of signal flares, they didn’t hear the Russian mat - that’s the confusion. In general, the story is still a bit dark ...

            Understand, tea is not the enemy:

            The modernization of the railway from Russia to North Korea has been completed



            VLADIVOSTOK, September 22 - RIA News. The ceremony to mark the completion of the reconstruction of the railway from the Russian Khasan station to the North Korean port city of Rajin took place on Sunday in the Rason trade and economic zone in the north of the DPRK, the president of Russian Railways Vladimir Yakunin took part in it, a representative of the Far Eastern Railway told RIA Novosti.

            The implementation of the international project "Hasan - Rajin", which provides for the capital modernization of a 54-kilometer section of the railway, the construction of a container terminal in the seaport of Rajin and the subsequent operation of this infrastructure, began in 2009. In October 2011, a team of drivers from the Far Eastern Railway (Far Eastern Railroad) conducted a demonstration container train from Russia to Rajin.

            According to him, in 2012, within the framework of a joint project, 34 specialists from North Korea were trained at the training centers of the Far Eastern Railway. To control the movement of trains on the Hasan-Rajin section, a dispatch center will be created with the participation of specialists from RasonConTrans and the Donghe company from the DPRK.

            "The project will allow in the future to restore train traffic along the entire Trans-Korean mainline. This will be the shortest transport route to Europe and back, freight trains with containers will go along it, it will be possible to redirect to the Russian Transsib a significant part of the cargo that is currently going by sea from South Korea to Europe ", - the interlocutor quoted the words of the head of Russian Railways Yakunin at the opening ceremony.

            The representative of the highway noted that during the reconstruction on the Khasan-Rajin section, 18 bridges were built and thoroughly modernized, three tunnels with a length of more than 4,5 kilometers. The modern equipment of signaling, blocking and communication is installed.


            РИА Новости http://ria.ru/vl/20130922/964975613.html#ixzz2fc8uea2F


            1. QWERTY
              QWERTY 22 September 2013 17: 01
              -14 qualifying.
              Yeah ... modernization. The curved metal structure in the foreground and the freshly painted traffic light of the 80s, visible in the distance, speak for themselves)))
              1. QWERTY
                QWERTY 23 September 2013 17: 02
                +1
                And what have they mined? Does anyone understand more in a railway signaling than mine?
            2. edge
              edge 23 September 2013 05: 39
              +1
              North Korean border guards could really confuse -in neutral waters? This is called- piracy
        2. pinachet
          pinachet 22 September 2013 19: 36
          22
          Now, no matter how, when you understand that Soviet propaganda did not lie
        3. NOBODY EXCEPT US
          NOBODY EXCEPT US 22 September 2013 20: 49
          0
          And who is A. Brod ??? If not difficult ..
        4. regsSSSR
          regsSSSR 23 September 2013 05: 29
          +8
          Yes, posters are more relevant than ever!
          Earlier in the Union they were perceived as something not so acute (well, maybe I was just young)) but probably as a matter of course, well, they hang themselves and hang, and I really had to lose the USSR to understand that all this is true truth !!!
      2. maklaut007
        maklaut007 22 September 2013 15: 34
        19
        You are absolutely right. Sending people to geyropov and America, especially young scientists, is to build a fifth column with your own hands. A lot of examples. The same anal. Today, liberal freedoms are synonymous with betrayal of the homeland.
      3. S-200
        S-200 22 September 2013 18: 03
        +1
        Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
        Remember, at one time there was such a propaganda action from our beloved government to send training of government officials to the USA for an internship, now it has come to a hitch.
        As a rule, they undergo brainwashing there and return home, you can already say cosmopolitans who hate their homeland for various reasons.

        Remember - we know ...
        and you remember the movie Peter-1 ...
        why did he- sent his boyar children abroad to study ??
        ISOLATIONISM - the destiny of the poor of the minds of nations and rulers ....
        Study, study and study again ! ... and beyond the hill including!
        Learn all the best and best that can be taken from these developed countries! it is impossible to pursue a policy of isolationism in Russia !!!!! We are not the DPRK, your mother !!! ....
        1. Lech from ZATULINKI
          Lech from ZATULINKI 22 September 2013 18: 13
          +8
          Many times I reread Alexei Tolstoy PETR1-yes PETR sent abroad to study boyar and noble children.
          Well, then PETER 1 demanded that they strictly follow the interests of RUSSIA and not a handful of boyars.
          With all the shortcomings of PETRA 1, he nevertheless gave a powerful impetus to the development of RUSSIA for centuries to come - which can not be said about the current rulers. They are SMALL in scale.
          1. S-200
            S-200 22 September 2013 18: 46
            +2
            Lesch, the world is changing .... since the time of Peter.
            In Kazakhstan, this personnel issue is solved quite competently ...
            I was not interested in ours ... believing that the children of wealthy parents study at their own expense (mainly).
            Take, for example, Aleksandr Dmitrievich Zhukov (a competent economist) ... he also studied with them ... BUT would Putin let the enemy pass to such a post in the Duma ??
            1. Denis
              Denis 22 September 2013 22: 24
              +4
              Quote: S-200
              children of wealthy parents study at their own expense (mainly).
              For your own?
              If an official with his not-so-huge salary bought a house-apartment and everything else by no means an orphan, judging by the price of a mortgage for three hundred years, then what is the offspring to learn abroad?
              Destroy your education nefig!
              And since they are so advanced, you can invite to teach here. Then not only sons, but everyone who wants to learn
        2. DPN
          DPN 22 September 2013 21: 27
          +6
          Quote: S-200
          Learn all the best and best that can be taken from these developed countries! it is impossible to pursue a policy of isolationism in Russia !!!!! We are not the DPRK, your mother !!! ...

          The deceased - Gaidar, with Chubais learned everything advanced, dubbed and starved several million in 90 years. And now while they have learned to rip off the people in the housing system.
        3. Denis
          Denis 22 September 2013 22: 12
          18
          Quote: S-200
          Study, study and study again ! ... and beyond the hill including!
          And how do you like such a boyar son, where and to whom will he serve?
          1. Oskar
            Oskar 23 September 2013 03: 51
            +2
            Not surprised ... Their mother ...
    2. Snoop
      Snoop 22 September 2013 07: 54
      20
      So many families live there)))) Children study in English elite schools)))
    3. FC SKIF
      FC SKIF 22 September 2013 09: 01
      -14 qualifying.
      This makeyn does a lot to fight our corruption. As the saying goes, with a black sheep even a shred of wool.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 22 September 2013 09: 09
        11
        Quote: FC Skiff
        This makeyn does a lot to fight our corruption. As the saying goes, with a black sheep even a shred of wool.


        How will we live when this fighter wraps his flippers and carries him forward with stilts? laughing Can we handle it ourselves? Can we do it? laughing crying lol
        1. FC SKIF
          FC SKIF 22 September 2013 17: 40
          +3
          What are you minusing? If he squeezes our nouveau riches there, they will spend money here, cease to treat Russia like a dairy cow, look, steal with care, i.e. there will be fewer (there will be no alternate airport). Here I am writing that a downed pilot will be useful in doing so.
          1. Denis
            Denis 22 September 2013 22: 28
            0
            Quote: FC Skif
            they will spend money here
            It's like this, they are not so stupid in Zadornov’s way. Which country will ensure that money is not spent in it, but in another?
      2. Current 72
        Current 72 22 September 2013 16: 02
        +4
        Why are you praising a rooster, for praising a cuckoo?
        1. Tatarus
          Tatarus 22 September 2013 17: 32
          +1
          Quote: Current 72
          Why are you praising a rooster, for praising a cuckoo?


          Forgive you for the minuses. Not EVERYTHING was taught at KRYLOV school, who taught McCain
      3. Tatarus
        Tatarus 22 September 2013 17: 31
        0
        Please ban the use of the flag of the USSR. The same Professor and his ilk are respected without hiding behind the common flag. Let them honestly manifest themselves, or even like pirates. Neither the Homeland nor the Flag. All kinds of radishes are hiding behind our single and native.
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 22 September 2013 17: 38
          +2
          Quote: Tatarus
          Please ban the use of the flag of the USSR.


          Ms. Gorbachev or McCain?
          1. Tatarus
            Tatarus 22 September 2013 18: 13
            0
            Quote: Hudo
            Ms. Gorbachev or McCain?


            I have explained everything. If you see the world only from the first lines without reading further, I'm sorry. Read to the end, you will not look superficial.
        2. Tatarus
          Tatarus 22 September 2013 18: 16
          +1
          Hiding behind the flag of the union, many simply stain its honor and memory of our common victories and achievements. Let them act honestly under the flag of their citizenship
          1. Tatarus
            Tatarus 22 September 2013 18: 25
            0
            It seems that those who are hiding behind the flag of the USSR to carry out their subversive activities are minus?
          2. amber-50
            amber-50 23 September 2013 14: 03
            +1
            And what am I interested in stain him? That I was born 50 years ago in the USSR? Or the fact that I took the oath under this flag? And the flag of the once Great Power means a lot to me!
        3. Tatarus
          Tatarus 22 September 2013 18: 28
          -1
          Let’s if you butt, then with an open visor. And then somehow it turns out vile.
          I OFFER the USSR flag to designate as a reward for achievements on the site (number of comments, number of articles, etc. to choose from)
          1. Hudo
            Hudo 22 September 2013 18: 46
            11
            What the hell reward! I have the right to be proud of this, simply by birthright in the USSR. This is my homeland! I have no other!
        4. S-200
          S-200 22 September 2013 18: 56
          +7
          Quote: Tatarus
          Please ban the use of the flag of the USSR. The same Professor and his ilk are respected without hiding behind the common flag. Let them honestly manifest themselves, or even like pirates. Neither the Homeland nor the Flag. All kinds of radishes are hiding behind our single and native.

          the enemy is always skillfully disguised as a different mask ... HOWEVER, this is not a reason for us to change the flag of the Motherland or even ... underwear every time! (WITH) wassat
        5. Denis
          Denis 23 September 2013 02: 12
          +3
          Quote: Tatarus
          I ask you to ban the use of the flag of the USSR
          If I was born under him, studied and served, too, is not possible?
          I have not sworn to another and am not going to change
      4. S-200
        S-200 22 September 2013 18: 48
        +5
        Quote: FC Skif
        This makeyn does a lot to fight our corruption. As the saying goes, with a black sheep even a shred of wool.

        Even if he casts silver bullets for our bribe-takers, then ... the road to ... the anus is paved with good intentionswassat
      5. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 23 September 2013 10: 54
        0
        with this sheep only, I hope it’s written by mistake, Navalny’s zombies live in the rain
    4. experienced
      experienced 22 September 2013 10: 50
      15
      I’m probably naive to the point of horror, but still I propose to contact the site administration with a request not to stop (limit) the upload (the word is what laughing ) news and articles on the site on Saturday-Sunday ... The difference between weekdays and Sundays is very much felt. I understand that everyone wants to relax, but can this be somehow solved? hi
      1. GREAT RUSSIA
        GREAT RUSSIA 22 September 2013 10: 54
        +4
        Well, I wrote an article today, but so far it has not appeared.
        1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
          NOBODY EXCEPT US 22 September 2013 20: 41
          -1
          Thank God! Today there is already enough nonsense ...
      2. Tatarus
        Tatarus 22 September 2013 17: 33
        +5
        Admins also have to sometimes relieve stress with alcohol. Especially after reading our insanely "adequate comments".
        1. alone
          alone 22 September 2013 17: 58
          +5
          Quote: Tatarus
          Admins also have to sometimes relieve stress with alcohol. Especially after reading our insanely "adequate comments".


          I have already run out of alcohol as a simple person (mostly cognac). Each time someone starts popping Americans with poplars, they immediately have to overturn 100 grams inside)) to make it more fun to die
          1. grafrozow
            grafrozow 22 September 2013 22: 35
            +1
            Quote: lonely
            I have already run out of alcohol as a simple person (mostly cognac). Each time someone starts popping Americans with poplars, they immediately have to overturn 100 grams inside)) to make it more fun to die
            +++ Omar, hello, 100 grams of Derbent, or there is no Armeniyani konyak-bazaar, this is what we L. love, ++++ drinks lobster, tomorrow I will be in the NEW PORT, communication is not required, we will write off later.
            1. alone
              alone 22 September 2013 23: 01
              +1
              obligatory. drinks I drink Azerbaijani. By the way, also not bad))
      3. SlavaP
        SlavaP 22 September 2013 23: 10
        0
        I support 100%. And yet - I noticed that the articles are laid out mainly in the morning, ~ 8 - 9 of Moscow, which is natural. It is also obvious and natural that the very first comments on an article always get the most points. Then answer me, dear colleagues and admins: what to do, for example, to me, I get to my computer when in Moscow by midnight or midnight ... all comments are made, all stars are received and already washed!
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 22 September 2013 23: 35
          +2
          Quote: SlavaP
          I get to my computer when in Moscow by midnight or after midnight ... all comments are made, all stars are received and already washed!


          In a similar situation, my battalion commander gave sensible advice to a young lieutenant who complained that he did not have time to lift a l / s since the first tram runs at 5.35 and it takes 30 minutes to get there. The battalion commander advised him to leave the house earlier and move on foot, by the deadline to be with the personnel entrusted to him.
          Something like that. hi
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 23 September 2013 02: 19
            +2
            Quote: Hudo
            In a similar situation, my battalion commander gave sensible advice to a young lieutenant who complained that he did not have time to lift a l / s since the first tram runs at 5.35 and it takes 30 minutes to get there. The battalion commander advised him to leave the house earlier and move on foot, by the deadline to be with the personnel entrusted to him.
            Something like this. hi


            Just the other way! soldier
        2. Denis
          Denis 23 September 2013 02: 17
          +1
          Quote: SlavaP
          get the most points.
          And if not for points, but for INTERESTING?
    5. AVV
      AVV 22 September 2013 12: 10
      11
      All money must be withdrawn from the state economy, enough for the same rake to constantly attack!
    6. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 22 September 2013 13: 02
      +7
      During the Cyprus case there were the same questions ... As far as I remember, almost no one opposed the withdrawal of Russian money from Cypriot banks. However, this did not lead to any financial crisis ...
      1. alone
        alone 22 September 2013 18: 34
        +3
        Quote: KG_patriot_last
        During the Cyprus case there were the same questions ... As far as I remember, almost no one opposed the withdrawal of Russian money from Cypriot banks. However, this did not lead to any financial crisis ...


        withdraw that money was withdrawn. but this does not mean that this money is now in Russia. oligarchs hold fixed capital over the hill.
        1. grafrozow
          grafrozow 22 September 2013 22: 56
          +2
          Quote: lonely
          withdraw that money was withdrawn. but this does not mean that this money is now in Russia. oligarchs hold fixed capital over the hill.
          Reply Quote Report Abuse
          Today in RBCA, they simply showed the salaries of the rulers of GAZPROM-Miler-26 million dol. Members of the board-6 million normal?
          1. alone
            alone 22 September 2013 22: 59
            0
            hello count! interesting, 26 million dollars what I would like to know how much ordinary Gazprom workers get.
    7. S-200
      S-200 22 September 2013 17: 57
      +3
      Quote: Civil
      1. Why do state banks hold assets in the US? What does the homeland not suit?
      2. What are they doing on American territory, with endless reductions in employees and branches in Russia ?!

      It is impossible to keep all assets with the Central Bank of the Russian Federation because the dollar is a supra-national WORLD settlement currency unit, and the US Federal Reserve is a world cash settlement center ... These are REALITIES that the whole financial world has to reckon with (so far)! Well, they are smarter than our communist leaders in the historical and financial perspective !!! We are trying to parallelize financial flows into other currency channels ... BRICS Bank, for example ... You can’t cut with an ax (and WHY ???) - it will cost yourself more! For so many years we have been trying to smoothly integrate into the WORLD economy, the heart of which is the US Federal Reserve ... Without global integration, the fate of our economy and industry is wretchedly regional ...
      1. S-200
        S-200 22 September 2013 18: 28
        +5
        minusers rushed ...)))
        forgot how our Soviet ruble WOODEN was dismissively called, and WHY? fool
        and now the RUSSIAN ruble - EVERYWHERE IN VOICE!
        happiness is not in the "pluses" ... and EVEN not in dollars! wink
        and in the PROSPERITY of Russia on this planet among successful and friendly neighbors and stability .... drinks
        1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
          NOBODY EXCEPT US 22 September 2013 20: 39
          0
          Do not be offended by children, do not know what they are doing .....
        2. grafrozow
          grafrozow 22 September 2013 23: 02
          -3
          Look around with your past !!!
      2. DPN
        DPN 22 September 2013 21: 56
        0
        Why do we need to integrate, maybe we just ask in the United States and become their state, the oligarch will not be worse, the common people probably also don't care what capitalist they work for, and the army and the Navy will not need solid savings.
        And as for the ruble, it became wooden during the EBN And now, like a prss ***** ka for the dollar, (a green candy wrapper), it is often called here, it runs around.
    8. 755962
      755962 22 September 2013 18: 00
      +2
      They wanted our crab! Yes, we ourselves do not eat it, and not because of great love for the inhabitants of the deep sea ...


      Because since childhood fed ....
      1. Denis
        Denis 23 September 2013 02: 19
        0
        Quote: 755962
        They wanted our crab! Yes, we don’t eat it ourselves
        What about a crab stick? They are all overwhelmed laughing
    9. Persey
      Persey 23 September 2013 13: 39
      0
      The Central Bank of the Russian Federation does not belong and is not subordinate to Russia.
  2. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 22 September 2013 07: 24
    41
    The number of fighters fighting in Syria against Bashar al-Assad is about 100 thousand.

    It will not be easy to grind such a mass of evil spirits - it is necessary to help ASADU in this matter with weapons, intelligence and specialists.
    1. FC SKIF
      FC SKIF 22 September 2013 09: 03
      14
      Help should be more substantial, otherwise the Syrians are fighting for us alone with our enemies.
      1. Current 72
        Current 72 22 September 2013 16: 17
        +3
        But what if, under the guise of fighting terrorism (as the United States does), we introduce a couple of three special forces divisions from Russia and China (and I think that they will do this in order to gain combat experience) and help defeat Assad, the whole this gangster. Interesting what kind of reaction, it would cause, from the USA and GayEuropa. What do you think?
        1. alone
          alone 22 September 2013 17: 21
          +4
          this is a direct intervention that will destroy all the dipolatic efforts of Russia. Which consists precisely in preventing extraneous interference.
        2. DPN
          DPN 22 September 2013 22: 28
          +1
          The US will sit behind the OCEAN not to get them, so they behave bravely. they don’t have rivals on their continent. Others they can soak on PUTINSKI even in the toilet. We get black tulips. So they poured in unison with the states and pulled a little, we have arsenals exploding and burning, they also have to put in excess somewhere it is necessary, for which not to Syria. Who will punish them ?.
          1. ElektriK123
            ElektriK123 24 September 2013 16: 33
            0
            Someone, those to whom they are now sending weapons, "Freedom Fighters"
    2. ElektriK123
      ElektriK123 22 September 2013 13: 29
      -5
      Assad’s best aid is a nuclear strike on phasington. But, so far we won’t be able to.
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  3. Denis
    Denis 22 September 2013 07: 31
    59
    The Minister of Defense also stressed that the agency "ceases to chase" the number of conscripts and "catch" them at the military registration and enlistment offices.
    We must conduct the right campaign, there will even be a queue:
    1. Denis
      Denis 22 September 2013 07: 47
      54
      Quote: Denis
      We need to conduct the right campaign, there will even be a turn
      Or this option:
    2. My address
      My address 22 September 2013 08: 19
      +6
      Rocket-strategic lyrical. On the motive of the crocodile song Genes:
      - Make the rocket fly away
      - And back you do not wait for them
      - And although America is a little sorry
      - The best, of course, ahead.
      Something like.

      Of course, there are many decent ones in America too, but the United States of its own exclusivity made a difference. No wonder one of the postulates of the control system says that the system without negative feedback (for a person and society without criticism and self-criticism) stops, or goes to a difference.
      1. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 22 September 2013 09: 49
        32
        Quote: My address
        Something like.

        Slowly the rockets fly away,
        Meet with them you do not wait.
        And although America is a little sorry
        Europe is ahead.
        Tablecloth, tablecloth Chlorzian spreads
        And gets into their gas mask.
        Everyone, everyone in the best is believed,
        Falling, falling nuclear bomb.
        Maybe we offended someone in vain,
        Having dropped a couple of extra megatons?
        The earth flies and shatters
        Where the Pentagon was once.
        A landmine flies, sways,
        He flies to the city of Washington.
        All that is left of him then
        We will load in a blue wagon.
        1. My address
          My address 22 September 2013 10: 34
          +1
          Thank you, Alexander! hi.
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 22 September 2013 12: 11
            +5
            Good afternoon, Alexander! We also sang this song at one time. There was another very popular one about American saboteurs abandoned in the USSR. There the words are: "We are led by a red cattle, an old white Russian emigrant ...". Haven't you heard? Well, the natural anthem of physicists: "In the era of wars, in the era of crises ...". Masterpiece!! hi
            1. My address
              My address 22 September 2013 12: 52
              +5
              Good afternoon, Yuri! Although you sometimes need to wish, like Mowgli's: "Good hunting!"
              We still sang from "Monday begins on Saturday", but then they did not hear about the Strugatskys, and there seemed to be no story yet.
              On the motive from the film "Height" about the installers ("... And let our first date be held at a height"):
              - Take a picture of the universe, yes!
              - And we stupidly see what's what.
              And the first department (or what was it called at the institute?) Chased Vysotsky in the hostel with him: "There lived a Soviet non-Soviet man in a hotel." Like a satire on the Organ. But I drove only during the day and only for junior courses, in the evening the studios could be inadequate.
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 22 September 2013 13: 02
                +4
                So ... I reminded about the picture of the universe! Thanks! and "The deceased lay in the dean's office for three days ..." crying ? They sang about the sixteenth volume of Fichtengolts and the Cauchy theorem? And Vysotsky passed with us with a bang. And: "..you got worn out with the X's, got entangled in zeros. You decompose molecules into atoms there am forgetting that potatoes are decomposing in the fields "and about neutrinos:" and the pontecorvo will take him by the beard ... " angry . Well, maestro is your move! And I still have a clip of student folklore ... repeat
                1. My address
                  My address 22 September 2013 13: 27
                  +6
                  I give up! recourse
                  Only:
                  "They tied a material to his feet, wrapped him with a drawing sheet, then dragged him to the dean's office and tears sparkled among many ..." on the theme "The sea spreads wide."
                  "Stones are beating in the stone river."
                  "And I will die, I will die with my arms outstretched, in the depths of your green eyes."
                  "Non-drinking female students are rare and are selected by the bureau."

                  And we said:
                  The first course - at least not kicked out!
                  The second - can not expel.
                  The third is now not expelled.
                  Fourth - not even touched with a finger!
                  Fifth - let them try ...
                  About the sixth, it was generally believed that they were doing a favor to the institute.
                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner 22 September 2013 14: 09
                    +3
                    Quote: My address
                    Fifth - let them try ...
                    And they wanted to kick me out of the fifth ... And I don’t even speak about the previous ones repeat
                    1. michajlo
                      michajlo 22 September 2013 14: 59
                      +7
                      senior citizen (5) SU Today, 14:09 _130922 / week

                      Good afternoon, dear Yuri!
                      I will allow myself to "insert my five cents."

                      Here is a couplet that is non-rhythmic, but very accurate from an unknown author from the 1st year of medical about the difficulties of study and "biting the granite of science":
                      "Lingua latina non penis canina,
                      Non recipe in manus »
                      "Latin is not a member of the horse,
                      You can't grab it in your hands "

                      And from the songs for the soul for the moment, I like these lines from V.S. Vysotsky:

                      There was a time - I was torn in the first row,
                      And it's all from a misunderstanding, -
                      But for some time now I sit back:
                      There, in front - like an assault rifle in the back -
                      Heavy look, unkind breath.

                      Chorus: Maybe behind and not so beautiful
                      But - much broader horizons,
                      More and run, and perspective,
                      And yet - reliability and review.

                      I wish you a good Sunday, Mikhailo.hi
                      1. pensioner
                        pensioner 22 September 2013 15: 24
                        +4
                        Quote: michajlo
                        I wish you a good Sunday, Mikhailo.
                        Quote: michajlo
                        "Latin is not a member of the horse,
                        You can't grab it in your hands "
                        good
                        Thank you Mikhailo! The day is going well so far. Tomorrow will start: to Moscow by plane, to Yaroslavl by bus, and then to get to Myshkin ... In the meantime, we rest, but remember our youth. And I have been friends with doctors all my adult life. Mostly with surgeons. They have a favorite saying: "So why are we sitting as therapists?" ... This means it's time drinks .
                      2. Volodin
                        Volodin 22 September 2013 15: 41
                        +4
                        Mikhailo, let me correct you: "non penis canina" - "not a canine member." It doesn't matter, but still ... smile
                      3. michajlo
                        michajlo 22 September 2013 16: 07
                        +3
                        Good afternoon, Aleksey!

                        Thank you for correcting the "inaccuracy". good

                        It's just that the "horse" -xxx looks and weighs differently than the "dog" -xxx, I'm talking about the hardships of freshmen. smile Oh long ago it was already ...
                      4. pensioner
                        pensioner 22 September 2013 16: 36
                        +2
                        Quote: Volodin
                        Mikhailo, let me correct you: "non penis canina" - "not a canine member." It doesn't matter, but still ...

                        Quote: michajlo
                        It's just that the "horse" -xxx looks and weighs differently than the "dog" -xxx

                        What can’t you get here what .
                      5. alone
                        alone 22 September 2013 17: 25
                        +3
                        Quote: retired
                        What can’t you get here ...


                        wassat this is still the limit)) wassat
                      6. pensioner
                        pensioner 22 September 2013 17: 31
                        +1
                        Quote: lonely
                        this is still the limit))

                        Slippery however ... repeat
                  2. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 24 September 2013 04: 12
                    +1
                    Quote: michajlo
                    It's just that the "horse" -xxx looks and weighs differently than the "dog" -xxx,

                    How many wolves do not feed the bear x .. thicker wassat
            2. Current 72
              Current 72 22 September 2013 16: 25
              +2
              That's when secrets are revealed. In confidential conversation. I praise.
              1. michajlo
                michajlo 22 September 2013 16: 54
                +3
                Good afternoon, dear Vladimir!

                These are not secrets, but just "little details of insect sex life". winked

                We are all here on the forum, ordinary living people with their positive and negative qualities.
                How do I speak? "ideal people can only be found in a cemetery"/ proverb.

                By the way, if it will be necessary to clarify, for example, curses in 5 or 6 languages, I can help / without charge ... smile
                All the best to you! hi
          2. pensioner
            pensioner 22 September 2013 14: 37
            +4
            Quote: My address
            I give up!
            Hooray! fellow
            Here's what else they sang:
            "The brigantine sets sail ..."
            "Thirty meters of crepe de Chine ..."
            "Our frigate has been on the roads for a long time ..."
            "The eagle of the sixth legion ..."
            "A brown button was lying on the road ..."
            "Coming at me ..." - well, this thing is endless. There were at least 50 options ...
            Well, since I worked in archaeological expeditions in the summer - V. Vysotsky: "Our Fedya was close to the earth from childhood. He loved to raise archeology on a shield. He sometimes dug up SUCH that all the neighbors cried bitterly." And now I rarely see young people singing ... I remember at 83 they came from an expedition. Yes, they celebrated the parting (there were people from all over the Union) that the parents of our friend who had everything happened (2 days. As expected ...), arriving in the city from vacation, learned from the neighbors that Vova got married ...
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 24 September 2013 04: 13
              +1
              Quote: retired
              Here's what else they sang:

              Hi hello fellow What about -Together, it's fun to walk through the swamps ..?
      2. Armata
        Armata 22 September 2013 13: 30
        +9
        Quote: My address
        h "Monday starts on Saturday"
        One of my favorite books (2 parts are excellent, but 3 is not very, I would even say that it is very not) It's great that there are still people who love these books.
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 22 September 2013 14: 05
          +8
          Quote: Mechanic
          One of my favorite books

          “Well, sir ...” said the well-set male voice. - In a certain kingdom, in a certain state, there was a king, by the name of ... mne-eh ... Well, in the end it doesn’t matter. Say, mne-uh ... Half-act ... He had three Tsarevich sons. The first ... mne-uh ... The third was, but the first? ..
          Bending down like a soldier under fire, I crept to the window and looked out. The oak was in place. With his back to him, the cat Vasily stood in deep thought on its hind legs. In his teeth was a water lily flower. The cat looked at his feet and pulled: "Mne-uh-eh ..." Then he shook his head, put his front paws behind his back and, stooping slightly, like associate professor Dubino-Knyazhitsky at a lecture, with a smooth step walked away from the oak.
          “Good ...” said the cat through gritted teeth. - There were a king and a queen. The king, the queen had one son ... mne-uh ..., of course
          .
          At one time, rolled on the floor from Monday. I also read it in printouts of the EU.
          1. Armata
            Armata 22 September 2013 14: 09
            +5
            Quote: retired
            Well, so ... - said a well-set male voice. - In a certain kingdom, in a certain state, there was a king, by the name of ... mne-eh ... Well, in the end it doesn’t matter. Say, mne-uh ... Half-act ... He had three Tsarevich sons. The first ... mne-uh ... The third was, but the first? ..
            I like more about New Year’s night duty. When Briarey broke his finger picking his nose and the Cadavre hatched. laughing Well, although the museum is well described with a sofa-translator laughing
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 22 September 2013 14: 17
              +3
              Quote: Mechanic
              I like more about New Year’s night duty.

              What's wrong with the ghouls in the basement? When they hid the teapot under the table ... And the signals were already there: "Oh, they're not drinking tea there, not tea ..."
        2. ultra
          ultra 23 September 2013 13: 32
          0
          Quote: Mechanic
          It's great that there are still people who love these books.

          I love the Strugatsky! Especially the early things! In the future that they painted I want to live!
    3. stroporez
      stroporez 22 September 2013 13: 15
      +5
      there was still a shot
      ... Marine Corps
      thunderstorm of alien seas.
      we will put cancer
      under the flag of u, es, hey ........
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 22 September 2013 13: 20
        +3
        But a song was found on the Internet!
        The night is quiet, the forest has calmed down alarmingly
        And not a rustle around.
        Very carefully along the path
        We all six are walking.
        We walk a very narrow path
        The KGB doesn’t catch us.
        - Sir Antonio, how is it in Russian?
        - Poor my mother!

        The night is quiet and the bog champs
        Airplane thrown landing.
        And the red cattle leads us -
        Filka, a white Russian emigrant.
        He, a scoundrel, will put us in a jail,
        Together with him we will be in trouble.
        Ah, sir Antonio, how is it in Russian?
        How do you do?

        Dad gave Anthony Milliona
        Willed to live in peace.
        Sleep, daddy: spy boys
        Skyscrapers can protect.
        And bending under the weight of the load,
        I’m following Anton.
        - Sir Antonio, how is it in Russian?
        - Auch gewalte Du!

        Johnny drank a farm in Alabama -
        Enrolled in the FBI.
        He said "goodbye" to old momma,
        Instantly, I hit the road to the USSR.
        Not one hectare of land will be Russian, (in our version: not one hectare of corn corn)
        Lively show them how to ruin the farm!
        - Sir Antonio, how is it in Russian?
        - Fucking you mother!

        A dog barking is heard behind him -
        Enemies are on the heels.
        it means failure.
        called "kaput".
        Well, friends, let’s show these Russians,
        How the Americans know how to run away.
        Sir Antonio, how is it in Russian?
        @ # your mother!

        Only in this place:Well, friends, let’s show these Russians,
        How Americans Run Away
        instead run away we screamed die and tore the buttons on his chest ...
        1. official
          official 22 September 2013 17: 07
          +9
          And at my place, officers in the company sang for an urgent period (it’s fun to walk along the open spaces together ...)
          Together it’s fun to walk through the swamps,
          in the swamps, in the green.
          And it’s better to set fire to villages with a company,
          or a whole battalion.
          In the sky the glow rinses, rinses.
          Once the bombing, two bombing - no groves!
          Once an attack, two attacks - there is no village!
          So we love the indigenous people!
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 22 September 2013 17: 11
            +2
            Quote: official
            So we love the indigenous people!

            !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ++++++++++++++ good hi
            1. My address
              My address 22 September 2013 17: 43
              +4
              Yuri!
              And on the themes of youth. Institutional slogans:
              Electricians - Girls! Do not grab the bare ends!
              Radio operators - For communication without marriage!
              Mechanics - There would be a couple, there is a moment!
              Miners, experts on combustible shale - We are for shale! (I remember if the topic is about shale oil and gas).
              Miners - The place of every communist underground! Communists, without offense, that was, that was, itself was in the CPSU and for ideological reasons.
              Physicists - greeting gesture. Right palm upright, fingers splayed, large up, little finger down. It was meant that the male device in the first year like a thumb and further down the courses. The reason is mental stress, radiation and such nonsense.

              Who else remembers?
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 22 September 2013 18: 53
                +2
                Ta-a-ak what ... So here’s what I still remember: Chemists get drunk before losing reaction, biologists before losing sight, philosophers before losing eloquence, and physicists before losing resistance. So let's drink to the girls physicists! repeat And the slogan of metallurgists: "Our strength is in swimming trunks!" do you remember?
              2. My address
                My address 22 September 2013 19: 18
                +2
                Yur
                I'm sorry, young, I will improve. But metallurgists are a little different: "Our strength is in OUR melts." And about chemists-bio-phylo-physi did not hear.

                In the form of compensation for non-pecuniary damage, I propose an anecdote from surgeon students with an enormous beard; you may not know and accept. Patient's talk with a surgeon:
                - Doctor! Can I give up the operation?
                - I do not advise, my friend, I do not advise.
                - And I will live after the operation?
                - I do not advise, my friend, I do not advise.
        2. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 24 September 2013 04: 20
          +1
          Quote: official
          (it’s fun to walk along the open spaces together ...)

          I put + Above wrote about the same before reaching this post bully hi
  4. Denis
    Denis 22 September 2013 17: 43
    +6
    Quote: retired
    about American saboteurs abandoned in the USSR. There the words are: "We are led by a red cattle, an old white Russian emigrant ...".
    song of american saboteurs
    Igor Morozov
    Konstantin Belyaev http://www.bisound.com/index.php?name=Files&op=view_file&id=9583397
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 22 September 2013 18: 55
      +1
      Thanks Denis! I searched the video but didn’t find it ... Now it will be ...
      1. Garrin
        Garrin 22 September 2013 21: 39
        +3
        Do you remember this one?
        1. Garrin
          Garrin 22 September 2013 21: 49
          +2
          But we sang this song at school.
      2. Denis
        Denis 22 September 2013 23: 01
        +1
        Quote: retired
        Thanks Denis! I searched the video but didn’t find it ... Now it will be ...
        Yes, not at all, we are for one!
        And how do you like A. Kharchikov? Let's say new songs in the old way
        For one title this song hit hits! Incorrect video code
        1. Denis
          Denis 22 September 2013 23: 23
          0
          Quote: Denis
          A. Kharchikov
          I'll try another Incorrect video code
          Doesn’t go, here is the link
          http://video.yandex.ru/search?text=%D1%85%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0
          % B2 & where = all & filmId = Yacjeb1dUXI & id =
      3. Denis
        Denis 22 September 2013 23: 06
        0
        Quote: retired
        Thanks Denis! I searched the video but didn’t find it ... Now it will be ...
        but not at all, we are for one!
        And how do you like new songs in the old fashion of A. Kharchikov?
        This one-hit hit of all hits
        http://music.zakon.kz/56595436-aleksandr-harchikov-ubey-amerikanca.html
        Only no video
        Words by Alexander Kharchikov - Kill an American
        The most famous posters in the Patriotic War were: "The Motherland Calls!", "Warrior of the Red Army, save me!" and "Kill the German!" And although at that time there were many good people among the Germans, it was the word “German” that was associated in consciousness with the image of a rapist, murderer and fascist - the enemy. Today, in the days of the barbaric bombing of Serbia, another word - "American" contains all these concepts ...
  • Tatarus
    Tatarus 22 September 2013 17: 36
    +4
    Quote: antiaircrafter
    We will load in a blue wagon.


    Not in blue, but in MURDER. (With the radioactive waste icon)
  • HAM
    HAM 22 September 2013 10: 25
    +2
    Without OOS, the system is prone to breakdown, "excitation" -generation and, as a rule, uncontrollability.
  • Oskar
    Oskar 22 September 2013 07: 34
    +6
    Russia may change its position in Syria if Assad is lying

    [media = http: //www.vesti.ru/doc.html? id = 1132780]

    After the destruction (export) of chemical weapons, we will wait for provocations towards Syria from the United States and Co., which will allow the Kremlin to surrender Syria without losing a face (Assad allegedly is to blame, and we broke the cake for him and the people of Syria), after which the Americans with the Turks and the Jews will quietly carry out their plan.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 22 September 2013 14: 23
      +1
      Quote: Oskar
      Russia may change its position in Syria if Assad is lying

      They will take the phrase out of context, and then shout "guard".
      In doing so, it was said; "I am speaking now theoretically and hypothetically." After that it was added, and the West will be able to change its position if it is proved that the opposition used chemical weapons.
    2. 755962
      755962 22 September 2013 18: 19
      0
      British analysts have denied the United States: the fight against Assad in Syria is led by al-Qaeda allies and extremists
      Among the Syrian rebels, Islamists, jihadists and al-Qaeda supporters play a leading role. Almost half of the members of the armed opposition groups (in other words, every second) are either outspoken allies of the terrorist network or representatives of extremist groups of various kinds. Allegations that the fight against Bashar al-Assad's regime is led by secular forces has not been confirmed, according to an analytical study by the British publishing house IHS Jane's, which, among other things, systematizes intelligence from open sources in the field of defense and security.


      http://www.newsru.com/arch/world/16sep2013/syriarebels.html
  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 22 September 2013 07: 35
    +2
    from the Don.
    I was waiting for the answer of the fart McCain. If the US government is so miserable, it’s scary! It’s a mess!
    1. alone
      alone 22 September 2013 17: 28
      0
      Well, with McCain everything is clear, the most amazing thing is that reading the comments of some of our members of the forum, it seems that the 3rd world is already underway) laughing
      1. Denis
        Denis 23 September 2013 02: 27
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        it seems that 3-th world is already going
        What is the 3-I, World War I did not end, just quieted down for a while
  • Oskar
    Oskar 22 September 2013 07: 38
    +6
    "We have recruits only where we need to prepare a mobilization reserve, and this is an important component of our approach. We finish calculating how much we will reduce the number of recruits. I can say much. The final figure, I think, we can name in November, but trust me - these are tens of thousands, "said Shoigu.

    But will there be enough mobilization reserve if it is necessary to participate not in a local conflict, but in something larger?
    1. My address
      My address 22 September 2013 08: 29
      10
      Oscar!
      I support you. Big wars are won only by massive armies. At least in past centuries. In vain (or with a fool?) They started to focus on contract. It is possible and on appeal, but for two years and with the subsequent sickly benefits, to ensure the security of the country. And Shoigu’s statements about the impossibility of preparing a specialist for two years are not serious. Is this exaggerating to prepare for forty years, how did Moses prepare the Jews for Israel? This year's cooking is problematic.
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 22 September 2013 09: 13
        +7
        Quote: My address
        And Shoigu’s statements about the impossibility to prepare a specialist in two years are not serious.

        With all due respect, let me disagree. In two years, you can prepare a fairly average fighter, such that he would not immediately shoot a neighbor in a chain or explode on his own grenade. In military branches where high-tech weapons are widely used, it is impossible to train SPECIALISTS for such a period. Of course, it is not reasonable to completely abandon military service, military service will reveal the suitability of the conscript to the contract, but to focus on poorly trained soldiers means in a critical situation to lose these soldiers, not fulfill the task and ultimately lose. Personally, I vote for the contract , for professionals. At a time when wars were won by blocking the enemy with a mountain of their corpses ended. Now the distance of fire contact is measured in kilometers (mainly), and for this we need specialists, not just any, but literate ones who study all their life, constantly increasing their skill level. But to pay a good specialist, you need to be worthy. hi
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 22 September 2013 09: 29
          +6
          Quote: novobranets
          In two years, you can prepare a fairly average fighter

          We live like on a powder keg, and therefore a significant personnel reserve of such middle peasants is simply vital. God forbid, of course, but if there are losses among professionals, severe staff shortages will aggravate the situation. Example: in case of failure of the tank's mechanical driver, it is better to put in his place a "middle man" from the former conscripts, than the tank commander will move from his regular position to the regular MV position.
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 22 September 2013 10: 26
            +3
            Quote: Hudo
            We live as if on a powder keg, and therefore a significant personnel reserve of such middle peasants is simply vital.

            Who would argue. But, you must admit, a person who is constantly engaged in a specific business is better than the one who managed to "knock the tops off", and over the years of civilian life, to forget about them. A personnel reserve is necessary in case of depletion of existing specialists (God forbid), so I repeat, it is unreasonable to completely refuse military service. I agree with this. But I remain with my opinion - the backbone of the Armed Forces should consist of professionals. hi
        2. My address
          My address 22 September 2013 09: 54
          +9
          Vyacheslav!
          Today's young people are smarter and more capable than they were forty-five years ago (roughly my call). This is understandable by the increase in information. In those days, a good commander of the T-62 was trained for one and a half to two years from the best recruits, a gunner a little faster. By the way, I watched the tank biathlon, I was so outraged by the shooting of the red tank, a good gunner of the 62nd will make fewer mistakes from his 115mm. I consider two years a normal period. A million-strong army with a small prepared reserve for our borders is small. Imagine the crossing of our border along the Amur by three PLA divisions with the aim of "restoring historical justice" and immediately declaring the world community about the need to do without fusion. What, just launch rockets? Or if tens of thousands of Wahhabis from Central Asia climb up? And I don’t forget about our contract soldiers, now they are far from the best of men. hi
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 22 September 2013 10: 39
            +3
            Quote: My address
            And I do not forget about our contractors, now they are far from the best of men.

            Here, thanks for reminding me. It seems to me that if contract service has prestige, there will be a "worthy-not worthy" choice. Naturally, this will require finances (where without them), provide payment, housing for family members. When a soldier has a "strong rear", service is better. There will be more people willing to serve.
            Quote: My address
            And a millionth army with a small prepared reserve for our borders is small.

            You need to take quality, then the quantity will need less. drinks
          2. alone
            alone 22 September 2013 17: 31
            +1
            Quote: My address
            By the way, I watched the tank biathlon, so the shooting of the red tank was outraged, a good gunner of the 62nd will make fewer misses from his 115mm.


            Alexander! I welcome, but do not tell me which team performed with the red tank?
            1. My address
              My address 22 September 2013 18: 49
              +2
              All the best, Omar.
              Central Military District. Check out the September 19 Military Archives site.
              1. alone
                alone 22 September 2013 18: 58
                +2
                thanks Alexander! I will definitely look
          3. Denis
            Denis 23 September 2013 02: 40
            +2
            Quote: My address
            I do not forget about our contractors, now they are far from the best of men.
            There are a lot of normal guys from the hinterland, they would be happy to be at home, only the work there left with the USSR
            LESSONS OF NVP NEEDED !!!I don’t even talk about AK, a gas mask and a green friend, OZK, the military instructor taught me to use the VPHR and DP-5A there, I didn’t have to use it later, and you won’t finish school until you pass the azimuth orientation.
            But he did not teach footcloths to those who did not know how, is it worse than the current lessons of tolerance?
        3. slas
          slas 22 September 2013 10: 07
          +4
          Quote: novobranets
          . In military branches where high-tech weapons are widely used, it is impossible to train SPECIALISTS for such a period. Of course

          You can prepare everything and everything in one and a half two years. For this you need a couple of things Normal teachers and a minimal desire to learn a student Or do you want to say that you need to study driving Mercedes 5 years? Ha
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 22 September 2013 10: 45
            +1
            Take two identical Merc, and two drivers — one traveled by car for two years and then walked for five years. And the second, who for seven years has not climbed off the car. Who is better? I’ll even ask in another way, which one of them would you take for your drivers, for driving, let's say in Moscow?
          2. Misantrop
            Misantrop 22 September 2013 10: 47
            +4
            Quote: slas
            You can prepare anything and everything in one and a half two years
            Seriously? For example - a fighter pilot, AEU operator, surgeon of a field hospital? Well then share the teaching methods, do not keep in yourself
            1. antiaircrafter
              antiaircrafter 22 September 2013 10: 52
              10
              Quote: Misantrop
              pilot of a fighter, operator of nuclear power plant, surgeon of a field hospital?

              This is when pilots and surgeons were recruited by conscription?
              1. Misantrop
                Misantrop 22 September 2013 11: 10
                +6
                Quote: antiaircrafter
                This is when pilots and surgeons were recruited by conscription?
                Remember the beginning of the Second World War, when the flight crew commander wore epaulettes of a junior sergeant.

                From my own experience I can say that a more or less normal specialist (who is not afraid to leave one at a military post) from a conscripted conscript was only in the third year of service. Without serious knowledge and with minimal experience NORMAL (without accidents and other) operation of equipment. And the operator of the PU GEM (with officer epaulets) - only in the fifth year, and even that, not everyone.
                1. novobranets
                  novobranets 22 September 2013 16: 29
                  +3
                  Quote: Misantrop
                  This is when pilots and surgeons were recruited by conscription?

                  But say air arrows? ShMAS spends almost a year on training the shooter, another year he gains experience in real conditions. As soon as he begins to delve into it, it’s time to go home, a newcomer comes to his place, and so on in a circle. And ground specialists, the plane is not a simple thing, it takes time to study. Speaking of military doctors. Outpatient surgeon and military surgeon are not the same thing. If, having pushed his family around in different angles, the military doctor spits and leaves (such civilians are worth their weight in gold), then the army will lose a specialist whose training took years and considerable resources. But it will be difficult to replace him with a civilian doctor; in simple medical institutes, field surgery (if this discipline is still preserved) is run through rather than passed. That's the difference between a professional and a reservist.
                  1. Bort radist
                    Bort radist 22 September 2013 17: 14
                    +4
                    Quote: novobranets
                    But say air arrows?

                    8 months cooked. They gave a good base, there were excellent teachers. But conscripts from school did not have normal knowledge in the field of radio electronics, and now this is a big question. The desire should be to make learning the materiel very difficult. But I changed the kid from the plow, so to speak, but in two years he learned a lot of things (I later understood this). He flew to Syria on two business trips (1975)
                    1. novobranets
                      novobranets 22 September 2013 17: 49
                      +2
                      hi My friend studied 10 months. And the first six months I flew with a bucket in the cockpit, until I got used to it. laughing He said that the simulator and the real bomber are two different things. repeat
                      1. Bort radist
                        Bort radist 22 September 2013 20: 03
                        +3
                        It wasn’t stricter here, once he burped and that’s all, I was a radio operator, the whole crew was nearby. Riflemen have a different one or two in the tail. And the one training at all was Kansk. Maritime aviation had a separate office.
            2. novobranets
              novobranets 22 September 2013 10: 55
              +3
              Quote: Misantrop
              For example - a fighter pilot, AEU operator, surgeon of a field hospital?

              And these VUS generally study every day. Constantly appearing "updates" require constant attention, as, say, electronic warfare, etc. hi
              1. user
                user 22 September 2013 18: 42
                +4
                In vain, military departments were removed from technical universities. In modern times, it would be necessary to train technical officers there rather than reserve officers. A trained specialist with an engineering background can be trained with a training period of 2 years, 1 time per week. This can be called up for a year, but all sorts of gingerbread cookies for such a topic is a separate discussion.
            3. slas
              slas 22 September 2013 23: 52
              0
              Quote: Misantrop
              Seriously? For example - a fighter pilot, AEU operator, surgeon of a field hospital? Well then share the teaching methods, do not keep in yourself

              My dear, you confused and messed up something Mercedes I brought for example, you will agree that the latest models are also highly technological products, but young people drive cars and are mostly good and you don’t need to know how the on-board computer works, etc., etc., and these are ordinary contractors and the sergeant staff what is at stake And pilots and surgeons are a completely different story And what I said
              Quote: slas
              You can prepare everything and everything in one and a half two years. To do this, you need a couple of things. Normal teachers and a minimal desire to learn.

              I’m not repeating it to you first. I know what I say I myself served and trained fighters and sorry, don’t need to be clever like you have a technique and share it
              1. Misantrop
                Misantrop 23 September 2013 00: 30
                +1
                Quote: slas
                Mercedes, I cited for example, you will agree that the latest models are also highly technological products, but young people drive cars and are good mostly

                I agree with this when the level of service of military equipment if it does not compare, then at least slightly approaches the level of service of modern foreign cars. Stomping a couple of pedals and turning one wheel on a PRIVATE car is still not the most difficult task. At the same time answering only for himself and a couple of passengers. Moreover, not in the conditions of urban battle.
                Can you imagine at least approximately how MUCH automatic and manual valves are available at two nuclear power plants? And one soldier on BP-65 carries a watch. And what could be the CONSEQUENCES if he suddenly mixes up and instead of shutting off the sample units, the steam closes the manual steam valves at the pressure of the steam generators of the OPERATING reactor? When not only do the turbines remain without steam (and this is stroke and electricity), but a considerable mass of water is not only locked (valves on the mains are irrevocable), but it is also heated by a working reactor ...
                And this is not the fantasies of a foolish pensioner, but a case from my personal experience. Seconds before the most serious accident remained, I almost broke the veins, opening the gate valves pressed by exorbitant pressure ...

                If this Mercedes in the middle of the street suddenly says "qua" and stops, what will the young talent do? He will get a mobile phone and call a tow truck to drag him to the service. So? But what if something like this happens under the ice near the pole? Who to call and from where? Share your experience, since you "also served and taught"
              2. novobranets
                novobranets 23 September 2013 16: 04
                0
                Bears in the circus, also lead. This is the simplest. But let's say, not even in battle, but on the march, the car will get up. Without knowledge of the device and the operation of equipment, without repair skills in the field, the price of such a driver ... Well, you know. And all this is taken over the years and experience.
    2. Hudo
      Hudo 22 September 2013 08: 33
      +4
      Quote: Oskar
      But will there be enough mobilization reserve if it is necessary to participate not in a local conflict, but in something larger?


      On July 1, 2011, the compulsory military draft in the German army was discontinued. Thus, the Bundeswehr switched to a fully professional army, and the part of the German generals that looks at the world without pink glasses strongly against of this. So it is in a territorially small compared with the Russian Federation of Germany!
    3. nerd.su
      nerd.su 22 September 2013 14: 30
      0
      Quote: Oskar
      But will there be enough mobilization reserve if it is necessary to participate not in a local conflict, but in something larger?

      It is more interesting how they will solve the question of the need for a mobile reserve in Moscow and the Caucasus?
    4. Oskar
      Oskar 22 September 2013 15: 06
      +5
      Even in microscopic Switzerland, in a referendum, they decide whether to cancel the military draft. Today, by the way.

      [media = http: //www.vesti.ru/doc.html? id = 1132935]

      And we have "smart" uncles, and they themselves have not served in the Armed Forces ...
  • Denis
    Denis 22 September 2013 07: 45
    39
    Now I’m not going to hobble with Russia - there was nothing to slow down our sweets at customs and sell gas to us for half a thousand bucks!
    Drivers will understand:
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    2. Darakht
      Darakht 22 September 2013 08: 03
      -2
      Ukraine has a difficult choice. For me, you don’t need to join anyone!
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 22 September 2013 08: 07
        14
        Quote: Daraht
        Ukraine has a difficult choice. For me, you don’t need to join anyone!


        Why not? The Russians dispersed to the Russians, and the Galician dog manure to the pshek - and the problem was solved.
        1. Darakht
          Darakht 22 September 2013 08: 14
          -3
          Quote: Hudo
          Russians went to Russians

          I don’t know such a nation as Russian - I know that I am a candidate of the ranks of the Central Asian Communist Party, all the rest of them are called pigs and prostitutes. Not for us from the kaats.a.p.pa.m. and not on the way.
          1. Hudo
            Hudo 22 September 2013 08: 19
            +1
            Quote: Daraht
            they are still all the rest pigs and prostitutes are called


            Your social circle is original and remarkable.
            1. Darakht
              Darakht 22 September 2013 08: 20
              -1
              Quote: Hudo
              Your social circle is original and remarkable.

              No matter how right, I don’t communicate with Urus Hiwon winked
          2. Dovmont
            Dovmont 22 September 2013 11: 08
            0
            And who are you? Polish subtrapper or Kalbit?
    3. Darakht
      Darakht 22 September 2013 08: 07
      -1
      Quote: Denis
      Drivers will understand:

      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/392/ztde987.jpg
    4. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 22 September 2013 08: 32
      19
      Aphorisms of Chernomyrdin always hit the target, right at the bull's-eye.
    5. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 22 September 2013 08: 45
      +1
      As they say ... pedal until you give bully
      1. not good
        not good 22 September 2013 21: 57
        +2
        It is surprising that Russia credited Ukraine. It was cheaper to lend to the Ukrainian parliament, and if Yanukovych were not only declared impeachment for the extra hryvnia, they would also vote for joining at least North Korea. But it turns out badly, we give you a loan, and they nevermind .Although the most interesting is still ahead, in Vilnius.
  • Old bear
    Old bear 22 September 2013 07: 57
    17
    Greetings to all members of the forum! He smiled about McCain again)) I remembered an anecdote that reflects the mind of this "politician"
    - Phone call "- Tell me, is Izya at home?"
    - Well, how do you answer, Izya is at home, but the wreaths have already been taken out.
    So the senator’s mind is the body, but the mind was carried out in the pit (or where it was kept in Vietnam) fellow
    1. Denis
      Denis 22 September 2013 08: 47
      +5
      Quote: Old Bear
      anecdote that reflects the mind of a given "politician"
      At least such an option with the same Izey
      - Remember Izyu who lived opposite the Crosses? (St. Petersburg prison, they even wanted to remake the hotel, this ushlopka just to relax)
      -So he lives now opposite the house
  • Snoop
    Snoop 22 September 2013 07: 57
    12
    Heinlain suggested that you serve as in a star landing))) If you want to be a citizen, serve in the army, then you have the right to vote and be elected))) For which he was once called a technocratic fascist. But much has been missed in the film, even the system of that society is not disclosed.
    I remember they suggested introducing extra. tax for those who did not serve, I’m personally for it. DO NOT WANT TO SERVE? Pay then to the army. And make a separate tax article))) Money for the army separately)))
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 22 September 2013 08: 48
      +2
      Delusional proposal. Then everyone will buy "legal" certificates that are not suitable for health reasons. Nobody will sign up for a lifetime tax.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 22 September 2013 08: 55
        +8
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Then everyone will buy "legal" certificates that are not suitable for health reasons. Nobody will sign up for a lifetime tax.

        If such a certificate is reinforced with a stamp in a passport of approximately this content:" The call for active military service was denied due to low moral and business qualities " - which will be the "wolf ticket" in life, then those wishing to serve the gates of military enlistment offices will be taken by storm.
        1. Kibalchish
          Kibalchish 22 September 2013 09: 34
          +3
          Such certificates are issued even now ... BUT I don’t observe much agitation in the military registration and enlistment offices. Even public service employees often take white ticket workers. And to private structures (except for power structures), they don’t give a damn about what you have in the military.
          I know one type of work in a military strategic enterprise. They were taken into the army. In part squinted at the fool. He returned with a white ticket and continued to work normally. And about the cases when, with a diagnosis of Schizophrenia, they got into a cop (for grandmas, of course), I generally keep quiet ...
          1. Hudo
            Hudo 22 September 2013 09: 48
            +9
            Quote: Kibalchish
            In part squinted at the fool. He returned with a white ticket and continued to work normally


            Sadly, an effective solution to any problem rests against an impenetrable wall of corruption. There can’t Serdyukovsky Lebl ...swans led by drake-castratum Serdyukov on jail bucket land the lake, and we are talking about different white tickets corrugated worms not wanting to serve but very nosy citizens.
          2. antiaircrafter
            antiaircrafter 22 September 2013 10: 28
            +3
            Quote: Kibalchish
            They were taken into the army. In part squinted at the fool. He returned with a white ticket and continued to work normally

            He returned with a normal ticket, because there is no such thing as a "white ticket".
            For some time now, an article in the warrior that doesn’t sign the Komisovsalin’s sign is only a number.
            And for the personnel department of the enterprise, she is on the drum, especially since he worked there before. Documents of military registration in order - forward to production.
          3. pensioner
            pensioner 22 September 2013 11: 48
            +2
            Quote: Kibalchish
            I know one type of work in a military strategic enterprise. They were taken into the army. In part squinted at the fool.
            I don’t know ... They would definitely not have taken to our factory. By the fact that the fool ... Strictly with this was.
        2. Denis
          Denis 23 September 2013 02: 44
          +1
          Quote: Hudo
          "The call for active military service was denied due to low moral and business qualities"
          Does it hurt the manager or the trader?
          rather the opposite
    2. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 22 September 2013 09: 54
      0
      Another not too smart proposal. That is, it is proposed because of the army to deprive a significant part of the population of citizenship. Create a lot of powerless embittered people. The top of idiocy. In addition, Highline must be read carefully - in his fictional state, citizenship gives privileges - the prototype was naturally US citizenship. For the most part, Russian citizenship is the ultimate dream of only illiterate residents of the CIS, while native Russians glance in the direction of more prosperous and established countries.
      There are not enough RUSSIAN people in Russia, and such proposals will aggravate the problem even more. There is only one way out - a small, well-equipped professional army.
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 22 September 2013 11: 34
        +7
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Create a lot of powerless embittered people
        Better to have a ton of dumb smug leaders, from youth confident that they are more cunning and dodgy than others?
        1. Kibalchish
          Kibalchish 22 September 2013 11: 55
          +3
          Better to have order in the country.
          1. Misantrop
            Misantrop 22 September 2013 15: 33
            +5
            Quote: Kibalchish
            Better to have order in the country.

            Better really. Here only order comes ONLY when those who are at least a little versed in it bring it. At least, having tried a little bit to be a performer in the structure that you are going to lead. And learning to obey before you begin to command.
      2. novobranets
        novobranets 22 September 2013 16: 36
        -1
        Quote: Kibalchish
        There is only one way out - a small, well-equipped professional army.

        good hi
    3. aleks77
      aleks77 22 September 2013 09: 55
      +8
      I support only without taxes.
      Served, you have the full status of a citizen.
      You didn’t serve, you can’t be elected, elect and hold public office.
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 22 September 2013 13: 27
        +2
        Quote: aleks77
        Served-Have Full Citizen Status
        --- 100% something like confirmation of citizenship .........
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 22 September 2013 08: 10
    +2
    Homo sapiens are still found in the States.

    but there are only a few of them.
    thank you for the review hi
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 22 September 2013 08: 42
      +7
      Quote: andrei332809
      Homo sapiens are still found in the States.

      ... But he disguises himself so well that no one has seen him in the last hundred years. laughing
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        1. novobranets
          novobranets 22 September 2013 11: 22
          +1
          There are immeasurably more snow people there than reasonable ones. laughing
      2. pensioner
        pensioner 22 September 2013 11: 16
        +2
        Quote: novobranets
        ... But he disguises himself so well that no one has seen him in the last hundred years.

        One flash still flashed ...
    2. aleksandroff
      aleksandroff 22 September 2013 15: 24
      12
      Here my daughter in the fourth grade is now going through the literature "The Hobbit" by Tolkien 12 books at the end of "The Lord of the Rings". So, what will be the children who in the 4th grade go through fantasy, and not classics. Moreover, Pushkin is fleeting. Soon we will have units of Homo sapiens.
      1. slas
        slas 22 September 2013 23: 59
        0
        Quote: aleksandroff
        Here my daughter in the fourth grade is now going through the literature "The Hobbit" by Tolkien 12 books at the end of "The Lord of the Rings".

        survived what
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 23 September 2013 19: 49
          0
          Quote: slas
          Here my daughter in the fourth grade is now going through the literature "The Hobbit" by Tolkien 12 books at the end of "The Lord of the Rings".

          World masterpiece. belay What "bright mind" is the school curriculum? request
  • Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 22 September 2013 08: 28
    +6
    Who will win at the first stage of recruitment to the army under the contract is definitely the military commissars. You want to get rid of your idiot from the army-pay. You want to shove your dummy for re-education in the pay army. Personally, in Ukraine, the military commissars are satisfied. The military registration and enlistment offices are not broken "Zhiguli". and decent foreign cars.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 September 2013 08: 36
    +9
    According to RT, the Republican senator said that he would accept President Putin’s invitation to participate in the Valdai international discussion club, but there is no time: “I would gladly accept the invitation if the schedule allowed me.” So an American politician wrote in Twitt
    McCainey dismissed allegedly ..))) Obama at the forum in St. Petersburg ran away from Putin with frightened eyes (although Putin later caught him nevertheless))) It wasn’t for them to scratch their tongues here, the conversation would be male specific .. And laughter and sin are shorter with these American politicians! bully
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 22 September 2013 08: 46
      +4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      “I would love to accept the invitation if the schedule allowed me.” So an American politician wrote in Twitt


      Huh huh! It turns out that it’s like a half-breasted holozyzdik, having closed all the locks in the room, began whistling air, waving his children’s fists and shouting about how he would pile up everyone in the brawl that he was afraid to come to.
      1. Ustas
        Ustas 22 September 2013 12: 07
        +3
        According to RT, the Republican senator said that he would accept President Putin’s invitation to participate in the Valdai international discussion club, but no time:

        Yes, just fucked up .. al.
  • Quiet
    Quiet 22 September 2013 08: 44
    +6
    American international expansion is under attack, and Obama's advisers are well aware of this, and on the other side is the huge amount of Saudi and Qatari capital invested in the Syrian wars

    Or maybe America fucking in Qatar and the UAE ?? am To adopt the French experience, so to speak, so as not to refund money laughing

    Obama, the journalist writes, presents his criminal regime in the position of moral censor, arguing that "the state policy of the United States is exactly what makes us exceptional."

    Gentlemen, apparently in ward No. 6 a place will soon be vacated and the "hut" is eager for this bed !!! wassat

    The harsh four “sanctioners” on September 13 called on the US Treasury Department to block the access of some large Russian banks to the US financial system. We are talking about VTB, VEB and Gazprombank

    Have a chat !! now these banks will begin to withdraw assets (if they have not already withdrawn) !!!

    Nevertheless, the new document should be attached to the thick bundle of American papers that has accumulated on the so-called Syrian issue

    Similar documents should be printed on toilet paper ..... lol

    I’m pro-Russian, more pro-Russian than the regime that is badly managing you today. ”- McCain claims ??? !!!

    Well !!! one more "candidate for the Russian Federation" with his own program !!! belay wassat fool The President is the face of his country! Are there really in Russia those who want to get such a wretched "face" (see photo above) from which you will wake up in a cold sweat at night ?? hi
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 22 September 2013 08: 48
    0
    To be honest, I don't see the point in the "Week Results" section. If you just read what happened, and there is no point in commenting on what has already been written. I don’t know how anyone, I don’t read the weekly results section, I came in for the first time and didn’t understand what was new and didn’t understand why it was at all. Although as anyone.
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 22 September 2013 10: 32
      10
      Well, you know, not everyone sits on the site every day.
    2. Andrey Skokovsky
      Andrey Skokovsky 22 September 2013 16: 05
      +4
      Quote: vladsolo56
      To be honest, I don't see the point in the "Week Results" section. If you just read what happened, and there is no point in commenting on what has already been written. I don’t know how anyone, I don’t read the weekly results section, I came in for the first time and didn’t understand what was new and didn’t understand why it was at all. Although as anyone.


      each of us understands something, something not
      if hundreds of people read the section, then probably someone needs it
      moreover, there is such a proverb "morning is wiser than evening"

      in this case, there is an additional assessment-awareness of the event after some time, plus an analysis of this event against the background of other news, in my opinion everything is correctly done.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 September 2013 08: 56
    10
    Quote: vladsolo56
    To be honest, I don't see the point in the "Week Results" section. If you just read what happened, and there is no point in commenting on what has already been written. I don’t know how anyone, I don’t read the weekly results section, I came in for the first time and didn’t understand what was new and didn’t understand why it was at all. Although as anyone.

    I like this ! Tipo glider .. Briefly summed up with the most interesting comments of members of the forum! Well done guys!
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 September 2013 09: 05
    +4
    “The Russians give up, we are a horde! “And we are the army!”
    This title of the article (ha ha ha) very accurately characterizes the foreign policy events around the Syrian crisis! In fact, Russia was bluffing and very dangerous The world was on the verge of 3 world .. As they say, know ours and do not piss !!!
  • kmike
    kmike 22 September 2013 09: 11
    +4
    Yes, with politicians such as McCain and Kerry, America will not end up deciding the fate of people by denunciations of analysts such as O'Baigie. tongue
    1. olviko
      olviko 22 September 2013 09: 35
      +9
      The letter only confirms Putin's own assessment of McCain's mental state. It is no coincidence that at the US Naval Academy John McCain out of 899 graduates in 1958 showed 894th result. McCain describes the "horrors" of Russian reality in colorful tones, but after reading the first lines it becomes clear that this person simply does not have enough information , does not represent and cannot imagine what Russia lives in reality. The depth of the mental abyss between McCain and Russia is simply enormous. But the problem is that McCain has long been a collective character. And he characterizes that part of the US political establishment that will never know Russia, but will always deal with it. These are the so-called "hawks" of the Cold War, lobbyists sharpened against Russia purely internally, by inertia that has survived from the period of their struggle with the opposite pole of the bipolar world - the USSR. But McCain is not even a professional anti-Soviet. This is an ordinary soldier with a traumatized psyche, continuing "his war" to the detriment of the current international situation and the positions of the United States itself. The practical side of the question - how to stop the bloodshed, to save millions of people from certain death - is not in the search for an American politician. As a true soldier of war, he is imprisoned for the complete and unconditional surrender of the enemy. But in this case, the entire Syrian people becomes such an enemy of the United States, as in the middle of the last century was the entire people of Vietnam. Then the United States burned entire villages with napalm, today they are trying to bypass the UN Security Council to attack Syria with missiles from ships and aircraft. And Senator McCain is in favor of just such a scenario, apparently for the benefit of the Syrian people only. This is his job - to speak from across the ocean about democracy and freedom in a single sovereign country, while destroying its civilian population and shredding its territory. Characteristically, the Republican Senator spent the entire meeting of the US Senate on the possible invasion of Syria by playing online poker. Politics for McCain is a game of poker, when an opponent who does not believe in his bluff is simply doomed to destruction. McCain's phobias are materializing today in Afghanistan and Iraq at the cost of the lives and injured lives of American children. His own people. Citizens of the most democratic country in the world, not understanding where and why they send their children with weapons, become cannon fodder. They do not defend themselves, like our fathers and grandfathers did during the Great Patriotic War. They attack, forcing us to defend ourselves by all means and means.

      Details: http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1710211.html#ixzz2fb4MdyUy
      Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM news agency.
      1. Quiet
        Quiet 22 September 2013 10: 03
        +3
        Politics for McCain - Poker Game

        Well, if he lost to poker (he himself admitted), then what the hell is popping into politics ???
        Here everything is more serious and the loss will be a complete political collapse after which a place in the cemetery !!! And personally, hell has been sent to him for a long time !!! am
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 September 2013 09: 53
    +2
    Quote: kmike
    Yes, with politicians such as McCain and Kerry, America will not end up deciding the fate of people by denunciations of analysts such as O'Baigie. tongue

    Everything goes to the point that we will end them .. We all remember the Second World War and the Cold War, and especially the 90s .. Oh, they owe us a lot .. And we will be the first in line!
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  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 22 September 2013 10: 02
    12
    Putin mildly criticized Obama for his speech delivered on September 10. In it, Obama, the author recalls, tried to justify Washington’s lawlessness with “American exclusivity.” Obama, the publicist writes, represents his criminal regime in the position of a moral censor, arguing that "the government policy of the United States is exactly what makes us exceptional."


    The famous aphorism was also attributed to Bismarck. "God helps fools, drunkards and the United States of America."In general, the idea of ​​God's chosen people of the American nation and the infallibility of American democratic values ​​is not new, Obama only voiced what was repeatedly affirmed and long before his reign.
    Ronald Reagan told fellow citizens that America was born in the “Divine Providence,” and somehow quoted the words of Pope Pius XII: "The Lord has handed over to America the fate of the long-suffering humanity."
    Or here's another "God loves you. And I love you. You can count on both of us." from Bush’s pre-election speech.
    Therefore, in Russia, the American agents of influence and the liberal fifth column in power also appropriated the right to exclusivity and God's chosen people.

    Today we are faced with an aggressive, accelerated operation to introduce into the consciousness of the world community Christian neo-fundamentalism invented and promoted by the United States. We are talking about a transnational, ultra-conservative and patriarchal religious culture, which is an integral part of a less intense imperialist war. Such a culture is rapidly spreading to the territories of the new colonies in order to better exploit them, and in Western Europe this religious movement is being introduced into the communities of immigrants.
    Various branches of Protestantism or the views of communities such as Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons are the sources of the religion of "reborn Christians". Renewed Christians' beliefs are a mixture, "made in the USA" of religion and commerce, sold by an army of aggressive salespeople. These religious merchants extol the superiority of the American nation and the American gospel, which include success, enrichment, and consumerism among the core commandments.
    We are living in the sixth age or at the moment of dispensation, which before the second coming of Christ will end with a great battle between good and evil, which will happen completely "accidentally" in the Middle East and will be marked by the restoration of Zion (Israel). Their temples are "full Gospel" (literally fragrant with the Gospel), and therefore all believers visited by the Holy Spirit have miraculous abilities to heal the sick, predict the future and drive out evil spirits, which fully explains the spread of new beliefs among the indigenous inhabitants of the occupied territories.


    Alicia Stürze's article Fundamentalism "made in USA" ("Gara", Spain) was published back in 2003! And as we see the desire for world domination of the Judeo-Christian sectarians calling themselves the God-chosen American nation for world domination over the past 10 years has only intensified, and the great battle in the East between the Good and the Evil is becoming more and more real.

    PS The flagship of the Black Sea Fleet (Black Sea Fleet) The guards missile cruiser "Moskva" has led the grouping of Russian Navy ships in the Mediterranean Sea, the head of the Black Sea Fleet's information support department, Captain XNUMXst Rank Vyacheslav Trukhachev, told reporters on Friday.
    1. Tektor
      Tektor 22 September 2013 22: 52
      0
      ... the desire for world domination of Judeo-Christian sectarians calling themselves the God-chosen American nation for world domination over the past 10 years has only intensified, and the great battle in the Middle East between Good and Evil is becoming more and more real.
      There is one important point here. You can't just be "chosen by God" without specifying "why?" It's one thing to be chosen for the cause of the Almighty, and another thing to be ridiculed and censured by everyone else: to be an example of what one shouldn't be ...
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 22 September 2013 23: 11
        +2
        Quote: Tektor
        You can't just be "chosen by God" without specifying "why?"


        read about Protestantism - the basis for determining righteousness is material condition.
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 22 September 2013 10: 20
    +2
    Quote: "The illegal armed groups are dominated by groups that at least share the ideas of the Islamists ..."
    The logic of US political circles, when they support radical Islamists, including Al-Kayla terrorists, does not hold water. The events in Egypt, where the Muslim Brotherhood came to power through the efforts of the United States and the European Union, are indicative in this respect. Representatives of this movement were preparing the transition of secular Egypt to an Islamic state. And only decisive actions by the Egyptian military changed the situation in the country.
    After the devastating bombing, the West does not answer the question: why were the Islamists brought to power in Libya? Why do the NATO people need the chaos they created in Libya? And there is no logic in the actions of Western countries.
    1. regsSSSR
      regsSSSR 23 September 2013 04: 05
      +2
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Quote: "The illegal armed groups are dominated by groups that at least share the ideas of the Islamists ..."
      The logic of US political circles, when they support radical Islamists, including Al-Kayla terrorists, does not hold water. The events in Egypt, where the Muslim Brotherhood came to power through the efforts of the United States and the European Union, are indicative in this respect. Representatives of this movement were preparing the transition of secular Egypt to an Islamic state. And only decisive actions by the Egyptian military changed the situation in the country.
      After the devastating bombing, the West does not answer the question: why were the Islamists brought to power in Libya? Why do the NATO people need the chaos they created in Libya? And there is no logic in the actions of Western countries.


      logic in preparing the bridgehead for war
      the creation of a common real enemy in the Middle East (we can say Islamic neo-fascism) for the further struggle against it (unleashing a world war) and involving as many of the region’s states as possible
      in which the us once again plan to participate as saviors of the world, earning a lot of money in the war and writing off the huge goss debts that are already impending seriously and threatening the collapse of the economy (in fact, they have no other choice but to reset the states, they act like a rat that drove itself away into a corner, systematically developing a bloody plan to save his beloved)) and Islamic bearded men by the way were chosen by the United States as scapegoats in these plans, even apparently unaware of their wall purpose in the hands of puppeteers, continuing to play to the staff of the pipe) well, apparently they are also happy with the USA give them a chance to build their radical Islamic state with which they themselves will fight
      at the same time undermining and destroying the economies of the main competitors of Europe and Russia (to some extent the expansion of China), because the war will affect Europe is a fact (but apparently they’re so unshielded too, going to squat away and cut the dough in the war by watching it at home in a box))
      the states are ending their pieces; it’s a little clumsy, apparently not quite according to plan)) but they all the same got their hike and if they feel they have a kirdyk at all, they will immediately press the Middle East war button (it’s not for nothing that the whole world of Chas is intensively armed with a fried smell specifically)
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 23 September 2013 04: 17
        0
        Quote: regressSSSR
        the creation of a common real enemy in the Middle East (we can say Islamic neo-fascism) for the further struggle against it (unleashing a world war) and involving as many of the region’s states as possible
        in which the us once again plan to participate as saviors of the world, earning a lot of money in the war and writing off the huge goss debts that are already impending seriously and threatening the collapse of the economy (in fact, they have no other choice but to reset the states, they act like a rat that drove itself away into a corner, systematically developing a bloody plan to save his beloved)) and Islamic bearded men by the way were chosen by the United States as scapegoats in these plans, even apparently unaware of their wall purpose in the hands of puppeteers, continuing to play to the staff of the pipe) well, apparently they are also happy with the USA give them a chance to build their radical Islamic state with which they themselves will fight
        at the same time undermining and destroying the economies of the main competitors of Europe and Russia (to some extent the expansion of China), because the war will affect Europe is a fact (but apparently there’s also such a problem that they are going to squat aside and cut down the dough in the war watching it at home in a box))
        the states are finishing rastovivat figures a bit clumsily apparently not quite according to plan)) but they all the same have achieved their campaign and if they feel that they have a kirdyk at all, they will immediately press a button in the Near East War (it’s not for nothing that the whole world is busy arming)


        The fire of World War III flares up! No matter how Russia wants peace ...
        1. regsSSSR
          regsSSSR 23 September 2013 05: 11
          +2
          Yes, the situation is coming up and in the process it is already unstoppable; now you can only get ready!
          podstovlyatsya as stupid as the Soviet Union in the nineties without war, destroying their own army, the United States obviously do not assemble so if they feel that things with the economy will go very badly use military power as expected, this is a fact!
          here Ukraine only in its throwings and searches for the best life in building its svezha (in vain given to it by Russia) the independence also apparently guesses that in such a world situation it will soon be difficult everywhere in Europe, with its tolerant outlooks on life brought to the point of obscurity and thereby drove her herself in a corner with warm places, too, soon the crisis will come and therefore apparently sickly. Europe also has to see clearly in this war!
  • Odonushka
    Odonushka 22 September 2013 11: 42
    +4
    And the redone AK is beautiful.
  • Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 22 September 2013 11: 43
    +5
    It is reported that at present about 16 million trunks of various small arms have accumulated in the warehouses of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, most of which are just Kalashnikovs. Moreover, almost 6,5 million of them have already exhausted their entire resource. Analysts say that the presence of such a huge number of small arms in Russia is useless.

    How is this to nothing? About 20 years ago, China already had 30 million small arms (of all, SCS is the most massive). The elimination of weapons - treason! Humpbacked rockets exploded barbarously, and now his business lives and thrives?
    1. SIBIR38RUS
      SIBIR38RUS 22 September 2013 11: 54
      +6
      I agree! These 74s lie to themselves and let them lie calmly !!! Otherwise, the war will begin, will we issue ammunition individually ?! as in the Second World War from the shortage ... According to the headquarters, they are so ready to write off half of the Kalash if not more! Perhaps on a pitchfork yes a rake of the population hope? there are few weapons ... And they will begin to utilize, so from these warehouses all our Russian crime will arm themselves !!! and further as in the 90s. IMHO I am against ....
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist 22 September 2013 17: 20
        +1
        Quote: SIBIR38RUS
        These 74s lie to themselves and let them lie calmly !!

        Stock jo poo does not press.
    2. amp
      amp 22 September 2013 11: 55
      +3
      Yes, I recall how during World War I our 1 American winchesters wanted to buy. And it was not bad what they wanted, but the fact that they were not delivered on time. Maxim machine guns - all from the UK .....
      1. Oskar
        Oskar 23 September 2013 04: 18
        0
        Part of the machine guns under license themselves produced.
      2. Denis
        Denis 23 September 2013 15: 12
        0
        Quote: amp
        they were not delivered on time. Maxim machine guns - all from the UK .....
        Teach materiel!
        This will make it possible not to disgrace the Lewis confusion with Maxim, which was successfully produced in Russia
        The production of Maxim was launched at the beginning of the 1904 year at the Tula arms factory. Tula machine guns were cheaper, easier to manufacture and more reliable than foreign ones; their closures were completely interchangeable, which for a long time could not be achieved in the English and German factories. Sokolov’s wheeled machine showed the best results; Sokolov also designed special cartridge boxes
        And here is Lewis
        In Russia, Lewis machine guns appeared in the 1917 year. Back in 1916, on the initiative of the tsarist government, an agreement was signed on the supply to Russia 9 600 American machine guns и 1 800 English Lewis machine guns were also used during the Civil War
        So not those memories you have, not those ...
        1. Denis
          Denis 23 September 2013 15: 39
          0
          Quote: Denis
          not those memories you have, not those ...
          It’s good that they didn’t dispose of it, as traitors now want
          Lewis machine guns remained in military depots until the Great Patriotic War and were used at its initial stage. A widely known photograph of machine gunners with hand-held Lewis marching at the 7 parade on November 1941 on Red Square before leaving for the front.
          Although a machine-gun drama happened before the war
          http://weaponland.ru/publ/mezhdu_velikimi_vojnami/15-1-0-509
          To know the materiel and not to confuse it with Maxim:
  • pensioner
    pensioner 22 September 2013 11: 45
    +4
    Oleg and Alexei Thank you very much for the review !!
    You just look at this acting series: D. McCain, H. Clinton and her husband Bill with her friend Monica, friend of the oppressed gay Obama, ideologist of “overload” Michael McFaul, a couple of Vietnamese pacifists - Kerry and Hagel - and many others, against which even the outstanding type of Zhirinovsky fades ...
    But I do not agree with this! From these all gives some kind of artificiality. They are not real. And in Zhirinovsky there is a mass of vitality, wit, and rich facial expressions. They are against the background of the lawyer's son fade. They were lucky that he was not born in America ...
    1. Oskar
      Oskar 23 September 2013 04: 16
      0
      He would not be lost there either. That's for sure!
  • alexmixev
    alexmixev 22 September 2013 11: 50
    +5
    “... It is not the first time when Russian citizens hear about me as their opponent. Since my goal today is to destroy the falsifications used by the rulers of Russia to preserve their power and justify corruption, let me start by correcting this lie. I am not anti-Russian. I am pro-Russian, more pro-Russian than the regime that controls you badly today. ”
    McCain has long earned the title Hero of Russia. The damage inflicted by the ovsky armed forces during his service is simply enormous. It's time to acknowledge his merits.
  • amp
    amp 22 September 2013 11: 51
    +2
    It is necessary to completely stop the appeal of the Caucasians.
    Such a mobile reserve will not be a Russian reserve, but a reserve of militants.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 22 September 2013 14: 18
      +1
      Quote: amp
      It is necessary to completely stop the appeal of the Caucasians.
      Such a mobile reserve will not be a Russian reserve, but a reserve of militants.

      That's right, we must gradually wean the savages from weapons, so that they do not know which side of the machine gun flies out.
      1. alone
        alone 22 September 2013 17: 43
        +5
        )) Each of them already knows where the bullet flies from, how to shoot from a PC and RPG. You were late with a proposal. And even from say 5-6 thousand people, it’s ugly to call whole nations savages. 32 Dagestani heroes of Russia alone, most of whom died in the fight against terrorism. They died defending the state integrity of Russia in the first place. I repeat it is extremely ugly
        1. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 22 September 2013 18: 49
          +2
          Quote: lonely
          )) Each of them already knows where the bullet flies from, how to shoot from a PC and RPG. You were late with a proposal. And even from say 5-6 thousand people, it’s ugly to call whole nations savages. 32 Dagestani heroes of Russia alone, most of whom died in the fight against terrorism. They died defending the state integrity of Russia in the first place. I repeat it is extremely ugly

          Today they know, they trained on their own head. They will not know the time, and there you look and the savages will become much smaller.
          Ugly call savages? May be so. But being savage with medieval customs is even uglier.
          Nobody takes from Dagestanis, Chechens, Ingush and other peoples of the Caucasus their merits and deeds, but one should not turn a blind eye to shortcomings.
          As it does, it will respond.
          1. alone
            alone 22 September 2013 19: 08
            +4
            and no one even says that Russia as a people and a state should turn a blind eye to the tricks of criminal elements, and even more so bearded terrorists. There must be one law in the country. serve your sentence. run in the mountains with a gun, destroy it on the spot. then there will be less elements of every kind and savage bearded. but to excommunicate all Caucasians from the army’s call is national discrimination. People are not to blame for the fact that one Caucasian man breaks his skull to a policeman, and the other two police officers who are holding him, then they release him for a bribe, and then they again begin to look for him.
    2. Oskar
      Oskar 23 September 2013 04: 14
      0
      The truth is so !!!!!! good
  • Watson J.
    Watson J. 22 September 2013 12: 22
    +6
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Another not too smart proposal. That is, it is proposed because of the army to deprive a significant part of the population of citizenship. Create a lot of powerless embittered people ....
    There are not enough RUSSIAN people in Russia, and such proposals will aggravate the problem even more. There is only one way out - a small, well-equipped professional army.


    I don't think it's all that sad. I'll put it in a simple way. Since childhood, the state has taught me at the expense of the resources and money of taxpayers, did not let me die of cholera or plague. When I grew up and the question arose about protecting the breadwinner, I said: "Go dear breadwinner, nah, protect yourself as you want." Okay, we will not take away the money, pay taxes. But I, a grateful citizen, do not want to let SUCH one go to power, to government work, to elections. The state in ideological models is presented as an instrument that expresses the interests of citizens. Not dependents. We have a stamp in our head: PASSPORT = CITIZEN. And I have, for example, two NON-CITIZEN passports. In one country - where I was born on the outskirts of the USSR, even if it’s a civilian, it will not change my attitude to the existing government. In another, where I live, it gives me all the rights, except the right to choose, demonstrate and serve in the army. I can work in government agencies. What kind of discrimination? What anger? No need to confuse concepts. It is necessary to approach the issue on the merits. Who are you in reality? A citizen and patriot of his country or just a resident? Citizen, you bear full responsibility - get the right to vote, the right to occupy state posts and even just state work, get the right to acquire weapons, since you have learned this, defending your homeland, you will get the right to participate in demonstrations and get some rights + responsibilities for the daily observance of law and order in the country. If you are just a resident, live for God's sake as you want, do not serve in the army, scratch eggs in front of the monitor, abuse the authorities within the walls of your apartment, pay taxes, but forget about the gingerbread. There is a principle that is often forgotten. Rights cannot be separated from duties. RIGHTS = DUTIES. Who can be angry with a resident who does not want to do a common cause? Only for yourself. There will be no "additional" dissidents. On the contrary, it may also be necessary to take the citizen's oath on the lie detector so that the mujahideen who shaved their beards do not leak out. Citizen's passport - red, resident's passport - Green card. The color is interesting, isn't it? :)
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 September 2013 12: 55
    +5
    Someone minus quietly well people .... I’m not offended just ridiculous ..))) I think I’ll directly say I don’t agree or send it to FIG ..
    In general, the September man was famous for the news! The tension was terrible .. The clock was on who would lose his nerves .. Thank God so far calmed down .. The first bayonet attack is always difficult .. It will be easier further! Our spirit is stronger ..
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 22 September 2013 14: 15
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Someone minus quietly well people .... I'm not offended just ridiculous ..)

      Really funny.
      What's the point of minus 4 big stars? To downgrade? Where?
      Whoever disagrees, just say, it’s virtually not painful to beat.
  • Koronik
    Koronik 22 September 2013 13: 15
    +5
    Yes, that would be great, the television debate of our Zhirinovsky VV and US Senator McCain. I would love to listen.
    1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      NOBODY EXCEPT US 22 September 2013 20: 31
      0
      Not heard enough for over twenty years?
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 22 September 2013 13: 20
    +2
    Quote: “As a member of the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States (CELAC), we ask you to convene a presidential summit in order to seriously consider arrogance of the USA "
    The United States, because of its "exclusivity", finally gave up on international laws and compliance with international law. It costs them nothing to interrupt the flight of the plane of a sovereign state and arrange a scam on board the presidential board. The Americans are acting in the same spirit, not issuing visas to the Venezuelan delegation to a session of the UN General Assembly. America shows complete lawlessness in international relations regarding sovereign states, members of the UN.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 September 2013 13: 42
    +2
    Quote: ODONushka
    And the redone AK is beautiful.

    And as always reliable! No wonder he is present on the arms of some countries .. Kalash as a Russian simple but murderous maybe! Russian weapons do not need advertising .. It is simply done with the soul!
  • grafin
    grafin 22 September 2013 13: 47
    +7
    Quotation-The complexity of weapons systems is such that we cannot even prepare a conscript for at least a year, at least for two, so that he can fight on this weapon, "Shoigu stressed.
    signed for his own impotence ????? our armored personnel carriers are so complicated that they can’t be studied in two years .... where are the Lexus and Toyota, and the AK-12 is so complicated unlike the AK-47 that you need to finish the university .. and in Syria 100 thousand high-winged specialists are fighting against the Assad education that even chemical weapons have been mastered .... as an official, sooner or later, we begin to carry nonsense ... it’s just disgusting ... if the weapon is so complicated it’s not a weapon ... and indeed a country where citizens try by all means to the country is NOT protected - it is doomed ... and mercenaries fight for money and not for their homeland
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 22 September 2013 13: 56
    +4
    And the very words that, they say, we cease to strive, look like a kind of indulgence for potential draft dodgers. From such words, at the subconscious level of a young person, the thesis can work: “You just need to sit out a bit - they won't catch it anyway”.

    It is worth returning to those benefits for those who served in the army who were in the USSR, and there will be no draft deviators. It will be cheaper and more reliable for the country than creating a contract army.
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 22 September 2013 14: 07
    +4
    In general, while in the camp of the Ukrainian authorities there is complete euphoria, and a number of politicians are even dizzy with success: is it a joke - the EU representative himself was present at the meeting of the Ukrainian government, and even the whole NATO deputy secretary general praised in absentia for the work: you are on the right path, Viktor Fedorovich!

    Instead of friendship with their neighbors, the Svidomo people chose confrontation, instead of cooperation in the economy, rivalry, instead of creating a joint security system, climb into an aggressive enemy bloc that has territorial claims against Ukraine.
    It will not lead to anything good for Ukraine, the EU does not need Ukraine and Ukrainians, they themselves have the same problems.
    The policy of the Banderlozha Nazi elite is based on hostility towards Russia and paranoid cries of continued fallout, which no one encroaches on and will end all the same as in the 17th century.
  • kenig1
    kenig1 22 September 2013 14: 10
    +2
    The Minister of Defense also stressed that the agency "ceases to chase" the number of conscripts and "catch" them at the military registration and enlistment offices.

    Nonsense is written, at least learn how to formulate thoughts, how can recruits "be caught by military registration and enlistment offices" do they live in military registration and enlistment offices and the officers of military registration and enlistment offices hide them in basements?)))))
  • michajlo
    michajlo 22 September 2013 14: 14
    +5
    Quote: vladsolo56 Today 08:40 _130922 / wk
    To be honest, I don't see the point in the "Week Results" section. If you just read what happened, and there is no point in commenting on what has already been written. I don’t know how anyone, I don’t read the weekly results section, I came in for the first time and didn’t understand what was new and didn’t understand why it was at all. Although as anyone.


    Good afternoon, dear Vladimir!
    Let me disagree with you. Weekly review in my opinion is a very good thing from the Admins and Moderators of the site. good Not every one of us always has time on the PC and free time for the Military Review.

    If you offer to cancel it, then I would first ASKED ADMINS
    - to submit the Question of maintaining / canceling the “Weekly Review of HE” itself
    to vote for a period of 2-3 weeks,
    - Well, then just Admins with Moderators counted our votes Pros and Cons
    and they would make a decision which would be expressed by the OPINION of the majority,
    - or they would do it their own way (they are still Admins and Moderators), since in addition to duties, they have rights that are higher than us simple forum users.

    Sincerely, Mikhailo. hi
  • Oskar
    Oskar 22 September 2013 14: 24
    +2
    Today On Leningradka men were beaten with bits by Caucasians

    [media = http: //www.vesti.ru/doc.html? id = 1132979 & cid = 8]

    How many more animals will live among people?
    1. Andrey Skokovsky
      Andrey Skokovsky 22 September 2013 15: 58
      +4
      Quote: Oskar
      On Leningradka men were beaten with bits by Caucasians


      1 not only Caucasians behave in a similar way, but our media about crime with Caucasians will always write
      2 stand in a regular supermarket in the evening at the checkout for a couple of hours and calculate for yourself the percentage of inadequate people and what nationality these best people will be, to put it mildly, surprised
      3 Today, the enemies of Russia like air need destabilization in the country and inciting ethnic hatred, primarily in their interests
      1. alone
        alone 22 September 2013 17: 51
        +4
        Quote: Oskar
        How many more animals will live among people?



        forgot what became an indicator of the collapse of the USSR? ethnic strife and interethnic conflicts. the enemies of Russia launched the same tool. that once worked. so now everything depends on the people and the authorities.
        1. Oskar
          Oskar 22 September 2013 18: 48
          +3
          And now they are pumping up for the same purpose. I agree. If law enforcement and the judiciary responded equally to crimes (no matter what offender the nationality committed), there would be no questions. Everyone is equal before the law - everything, no questions !!!
          But still, to arrange a "war" in St. Petersburg with guttural cries of Allah Akbar is, you must agree, barbarism and savagery. In the Far East we did not have such a thing and do not have it. The Russian people are tougher, perhaps ... There have never been any Caucasian criminal bosses, and the officers of the internal affairs bodies don’t shake snot on their fists - if you violate (and even more resist) they will put your face in the ground without regard to nationality, that Russian, that any other. Again, as I understand it, in the west of Russia they have many defenders in the person of influential leaders of national diasporas, deputies, senators, etc. (the Ministry of Internal Affairs is so muffled with calls and deputy inquiries - it won't seem like a little, you will unsubscribe for years, or even shoulder straps will be removed )
          1. alone
            alone 22 September 2013 19: 11
            +2
            say everything correctly. if the letter of the law works, there will be no such place. and everyone will think before doing something. It is interesting when there were shooting where the police were and why only 2 people were detained?
            1. Oskar
              Oskar 22 September 2013 19: 19
              +1
              Also interested in this question. By the way, now I am watching "Sunday Evening" and the media denied earlier information about the beating in Leningrad. Moldovans turned out to be scumbags and they have already been detained!
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 22 September 2013 17: 27
      0
      Quote: Oskar
      Today on Leningradka men were beaten with bits by Caucasians

      And the other day, near Moscow, a group of Russian youth beat a girl, and even a disabled woman.
      Our media any crime of Caucasians, immediately begin to describe in delicious colors. But about the crimes of others, as it is silent. Or in our country, in a country with several tens of thousands of murders a year, only Caucasians kill.
      Just about every such crime of Caucasians, the whole country will find out instantly. But who did the rest then ..?
      1. Djozz
        Djozz 22 September 2013 17: 52
        +2
        Stupidities, information about the beating of a disabled girl in Kalininets, passed through all federal TV channels. Do not throw in disu!
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 22 September 2013 18: 01
          0
          Quote: Djozz
          Stupidities, information about the beating of a disabled girl in Kalininets, passed through all federal TV channels. Do not throw in disu!

          I am not saying that she was not there. I say that there was no sigh of sigh about this. Like, what kind of Russians are all bad ...
          There are many nationalities in Russia and there were some crimes against others, there are and unfortunately will be ...
          Djozz, I do not defend the Caucasians who committed the crime, like others. I do not like the fact that the media voluntarily or not freely creates an enemy within the country. That’s disgusting ...
    3. Russ69
      Russ69 22 September 2013 20: 21
      +1
      Quote: Oskar
      Today on Leningradka men were beaten with bits by Caucasians
      A little time passed and the Moldavian turned out to be.
      The driver of the BMW, who beat the driver of the Mazda to death and crippled his passenger, was a 24-year-old native of Moldova. He and his brother are now detained in the east of the capital.

      24-year-old Ilya Chernik was identified by the license plate of his car. The car was declared wanted immediately after the incident. The driver of the BMW, who beat the driver of the Mazda to death and crippled his passenger, turned out to be a 24-year-old native of Moldova. He and his brother are now detained in the east of the capital.
  • jjj
    jjj 22 September 2013 15: 25
    +4
    Something worries me about Israel. Well, who can prevent the "Syrian rebels" from crossing the border by the river. And what will Israel oppose? Foolish skinny young men or girls with delicious asses. But in reality this is the basis of the Israeli armed forces. Well, they themselves will not use tanks and aircraft in their cities and kibbutzim, where freedom-loving bearded men have infiltrated. And the heroes in Israel like Golda, Ariel or Moshe are no longer visible. So it becomes fearful for Israel.
    1. Walking
      Walking 22 September 2013 15: 52
      +4
      In this way, do the Jews themselves dig a hole for themselves or do they think that everyone who fights against Assad will calm down after the victory?
    2. alone
      alone 22 September 2013 17: 53
      +1
      you think "the rebels will be able to defeat Israel? No one will let them do it. They will get you in the head from all the patrons."
    3. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 22 September 2013 18: 37
      0
      Quote: jjj
      Poor skinny young people or girls with mouth-watering buttocks.

      Yeah butt and provide.
      But in reality this is the basis of the armed forces of Israel.
      Do you mean the butt of the Israelites and the Israelites?
      Well, they themselves will not use tanks and aircraft in their cities and kibbutzim, where freedom-loving bearded men have leaked.
      Well, yes, freedom-loving borarades under the cover of an ass will capture all of Israel.
      Yes, and heroes in Israel such as Golda, Ariel or Moshe already something is not visible. That scary stands for Israel.
      Indeed, only the butt remained.

      Rzhu nimagu. good
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 22 September 2013 16: 21
    +2
    Will there be fewer conscripts?
    I have no idea.
    How the North Korean border guards crabs counted
    We would have to count their ribs for such insolence.
    Yanukovych: and we will go to the west ...
    And we will turn your neck east
    Domestic troops are alerted
    Well done, keep it up!
    Engagement from the bearded
    It would be more correct to be stupid bearded.
    Hitler and pigs
    Like Obama and the ass!
    Russian sanatorium for Mr. McCain
    Yeah, and for those stupid like him.
  • individual
    individual 22 September 2013 17: 14
    +3
    American ideologists have done their dirty deed.
    Elite children live and study in their world, the money of the Russian state reserve work for their economy.
    If earlier there was an internal "fifth column" of those who disagreed with Russia, now they all agree with the elite, but against Russia.
  • Naval
    Naval 22 September 2013 17: 31
    +4
    And then, you know, "worked out a resource." Kalashnikov assault rifles? .. Have you developed a resource? .. Well ...

    But the Somali pirates do not think so and hijack ships with the help of Kalash. Sorry for the quality, photo from mobile, taken at "Moscow University" after release
  • Tektor
    Tektor 22 September 2013 17: 38
    +3
    I don’t understand at all: did we send at least one "Kitolov" to Syria? And Bumblebee? And the assault flamethrowers? Now is the time for counter-terrorist weapons ...
    And the UN must be removed from the state. I suggest to Cyprus. Will it fit?
    1. alone
      alone 22 September 2013 18: 02
      0
      Quote: Tektor
      I suggest to Cyprus. Will it fit?


      will not go! conflict zone!
      I suggest Singapore. A quiet place
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 22 September 2013 18: 58
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        Quote: Tektor
        I suggest to Cyprus. Will it fit?


        will not go! conflict zone!
        I suggest Singapore. A quiet place

        The ideal option is Greenland or better Antarctica, a quieter place to not find.
        1. alone
          alone 22 September 2013 19: 15
          +1
          laughing let them freeze))
          1. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 22 September 2013 21: 19
            +1
            Quote: lonely
            laughing let them freeze))

            All sorts of cross-eyed and strongly "tanned" will freeze, and they may get tired of groveling in front of the Yankes.
            1. Tektor
              Tektor 22 September 2013 22: 16
              0
              Well, if Cyprus is not very, then a lot more calm, choose - I do not want: Monaco, Gibraltar, Liechtenstein, Vienna, Basel, Zurich, Davos, Minsk ...
              Yes, and it would be necessary to test our anti-helicopter mines in Syria: can they work against the Harmas, planning bombs and Tomahokov?
            2. screw cutter
              screw cutter 23 September 2013 14: 58
              0
              I liked your "strongly tanned" very much, can I take it into service? As an alternative to "African American" - "strongly tanned".
  • komel
    komel 22 September 2013 18: 11
    +2
    According to Sergei Lavrov, Russia has secured Syria’s accession to the Chemical Weapons Convention. Syria is now a party to a legally binding instrument. Therefore, the guarantor of the fulfillment by Syria of its obligations under the Convention is the entire world community, and not Russia.
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 22 September 2013 18: 25
    +2
    Analysts say that the presence of such a huge number of small arms in Russia is useless. The Ministry of Defense in case of war will have enough 3-4 million barrels in warehouses, the remaining copies must either be sold for export, or modernized, or disposed of.
    - Well, what about the lack of burning ammunition depots? Destroyed chemical weapons? Sawed ships, planes, submarines, missiles? Now you get to small arms? Then what - will we give up territories as unnecessary? Betrayal is covered by traitors. The war, God forbid, will begin than you will arm the volunteers - apparently with pitchforks and axes!
  • rpek32
    rpek32 22 September 2013 19: 06
    +2
    who thinks what:
    The large-scale war in Syria seems to be coming to its logical conclusion. A sign that the West has tacitly acknowledged its defeat in the war is the transfer of Al Qaeda terrorists from Syria to the troubled countries of the former Soviet Union. The day before yesterday, the State Committee for National Security of Kyrgyzstan detained a terrorist group of the Union of Islamic Jihad international organization in the south of the country, which, by decision of the Al Qaeda leadership, was transferred from Syria to carry out high-profile terrorist attacks in Bishkek and Osh. As expected after the official visits to this republic, the Prime Minister of Qatar Ben Jasem (now the former Prime Minister of the former Emir). And this is just the beginning ...

    http://anna-news.info/node/12379#.Uj7HoFflzYE.facebook
    1. alone
      alone 22 September 2013 19: 29
      +3
      Dear Vladimir, I welcome.
      I read your comment and the link that you gave. Frankly speaking, I was extremely surprised.
      Why transfer militants from Syria to Kyrgyzstan, followed by an attack on Russia, if there is no recharge for militants. The only place in Russia where the militants have active associates is the North Caucasus. And knowing about the Wahhabis, I dare to assure you that their fighting cells appear where there is local support. Without this, they don’t go anywhere. But the fact that they were caught in Kyrgyzstan means that they are probing the region for the reaction of the population, where they will feel support there and will appear. I assure you that these people are not stupid, have good financing. organization is high. it is a serious opponent. it just doesn’t go anywhere. Wahhabis have Iran’s worst enemy. But as you can see, they don’t appear there. The local population doesn’t recognize their ideas
      1. rpek32
        rpek32 22 September 2013 19: 50
        +1
        Here's what they write about this:
        http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1132654
        In Tajikistan, six members of a criminal group were detained who were planning to carry out terrorist attacks in anticipation of the presidential election. This criminal group has already managed to commit several high-profile crimes, ITAR-TASS reported in the Center for Public Relations (DSP) of the State Committee for National Security (SCNS) of the country.
        It is known that the leader of the gang Alamurod Makhanov was trained in the special camps of Pakistan. He came to the attention of special services in 2010 and was put on the interstate wanted list.
        All detainees are in the special detention center of the State Committee for National Security. A criminal case was initiated under the article "terrorism". An investigation has begun.
        The presidential election in Tajikistan is scheduled for November 6.
        1. alone
          alone 22 September 2013 19: 54
          +2
          Quote: rpek32
          It is known that the leader of the gang Alamurod Makhanov was trained in the special camps of Pakistan. He came to the attention of special services in 2010 and was put on the interstate wanted list.


          that is, he was wanted even before the Syrian events. They are probing the region. Where they find support, there they will begin their dirty deeds.
  • S-200
    S-200 22 September 2013 19: 27
    +1
    Quote: jjj
    Poor skinny young people or girls with mouth-watering buttocks. But in reality this is the basis of the armed forces of Israel.

    It EXCITS you or ... slightly wink worries? wassat
    specify who exactly .... laughing
    1. jjj
      jjj 23 September 2013 00: 33
      0
      If you write in the way it is customary in traditional communication: "Ass.ots and thick.hoops", then it will probably be politically incorrect, especially considering some nervousness of the target audience
  • rpek32
    rpek32 22 September 2013 19: 30
    +2
    http://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/124680.html

    “On the morning of September 22, as a result of shelling by the militants of the Damascus quarter of Mezze, one of the mines exploded on the territory of the Russian embassy in Syria,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said. “Three employees were injured, not life-threatening.”

    At the moment, the Syrian and Russian authorities are conducting a joint investigation of what happened - additional measures will also be taken to ensure the security of the Russian diplomatic mission in Syria.


    Isn't it time to use the tactics of mattress makers "ololo but who are they, we will introduce a contingent of military personnel. Democracy is dangerous!" and press the reptiles to the nail. But of course no one will do that - world politics is negative
  • cool.ya-nikola
    cool.ya-nikola 22 September 2013 19: 33
    +3
    Alexey Volodin, Oleg Chuvakin
    Like it or not, we add on our own, but it turns out that the "secular" idea of ​​the White House in Syria is promoted by bearded men. Involuntarily think that the most important Islamists are sitting in the White House ...

    Oh, well! You didn’t forget that Barak, he, of course, is Barak ... but still Huseynovich!

    Well, regarding Elizabeth O'Baigie, it’s in the United States, the trend is. One has only to shit a little more on a regime that is undesirable for the United States, well, on the "dastardly killer and tyrant" Assad, or on Putin's "anti-democratic bloody regime" and everything is in openwork! Title "honorary doctor"in your pocket! Moreover, it is completely automatic - without protection, so to speak Honoris causa.
  • NOBODY EXCEPT US
    NOBODY EXCEPT US 22 September 2013 20: 25
    -1
    It’s strange how komenty is chosen, one-sided, somehow without full coverage, Putin’s way, in general, KGB style, and what else can you expect from a person with a narrow horizons that they will write and say ..
  • Dimkapvo
    Dimkapvo 22 September 2013 20: 39
    +1
    I’m all surprised at the attention to McCain. Local, holy fool .. Somehow it’s not to the person of the Stainless to pay attention to him. We make an advertisement for the old fool. It's time to learn to ignore insignificance.
  • PSih2097
    PSih2097 22 September 2013 20: 40
    +3
    Will there be fewer conscripts?

    The highest honor that a man can only dream of is the opportunity to shield his beloved house with his body from the devastation that war brings.(c) Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers
    1. Oskar
      Oskar 23 September 2013 03: 58
      0
      Haini well done! Always loved the army ...