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Orange Revolution. Annihilation Instructions - 3

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In the previous Instructions, we showed that the ideologues of the Orange Revolution, led by American Ph.D. Gene Sharp, rely on demagogues in the countries undermined by them, arming them with a network strategy of a "non-violent" coup d'état. The main tool of this strategy is the “progressive import goods” being promoted to the attacked country - the “western model of democracy”. It performs the function of a “Trojan horse”: it “blows up” the country from the inside, plunging it into an acute large-scale crisis, and, as a result, into the abyss of corruption. The next "dish" to the table of "world democracy" is served ...


Orange network policy uses a commercial strategy for the sale of goods by network companies. The fact is that commercialization in the West has spread today to the sphere of politics. Political leaders, from Obama to Cameron and Hollande, have already become “political goods”, which are “sold” to society in elections through political-commercial networks. This proven technology is being transferred by the West to its henchmen around the world.

Ordinary members of political networks, as in commercial companies, receive money and bonuses for "promoting" the main "product" of the network, "selling" it to the public. Therefore, the issues of financing political network companies, the sophistication of “sales” technologies, and the use of the Internet are becoming major issues, pushing aside ordinary political programs and parties. Roughly speaking, in political network companies, the amount of money decides everything. Remember the question of “Brother-2”: “You have a lot of money, and what will you do? “I will buy everyone,” brother-Sukhorukov answers, and this is the main strategy of the grid companies - to buy the greatest number of agitators, and through them the buyers, or the votes in the elections.

In any commercial network company, its “product” is literally a subject of worship, ordinary networkers are required to unconditionally believe in the unique properties of their product, because without such a belief, it will not “infect” the buyer — he will not believe and will not buy a wonderful product. Therefore, network companies really resemble totalitarian sects, and their followers are often simply insane and aggressively impose their goods on customers. On the other hand, the network violently protects its goods from any criticism, does not respond to any arguments.

We see all these features in A.Navalny’s recent political campaign, in which his network “sold” to Navalny’s society. Observers noticed this, and the networkers called him “the witnesses of Navalny”, and in this they are closer to the truth than they themselves write about it, because they write about it “with a smile”, they consider as if frivolous. It is very serious.

Orange Revolution. Annihilation Instructions - 3


After all, the “product” in network policy is associated with a living person, the leader of the network, therefore the totalitarianism of the political network increases dramatically. And soon we can see real totalitarian political sects, with all the following circumstances ... And there are already political scientists who write benevolently about Navalny, like Zlobin, they directly say that the future is behind political movements, which Navalny opens the door. But they are silent that this will be a new edition of political totalitarianism.

By the way, Obama’s statement about the “exclusivity” of America and its democracy is not a reservation or inaccuracy, it is a statement of the main, unique “product” of the American political network. Political scientists in the United States explain that V.Putin will never achieve understanding at this point from the American man in the street - he understands his dependence on the success of America, his “network”, that is, he is already quite zombied by it.

However, let us return to our main task: how can we annihilate (“destroy”) a political commercial network? To do this, as in the commercial network, you need to debunk its main "product". And this is possible, since it is also its Achilles' heel, since it always seems to be “unique”, with an enormous range of applications. In the political network, it is necessary to debunk both the leader of the “network sales” and the “political product” promoted by the network.

In the case of Navalny, this is obvious, and a scandalous demagogue, with a dark legal past: fraudsters cannot be trusted at all, nothing. Navalny, on the other hand, has a conflict of interests: politics and the “fight against corruption”. Even if such people speak the truth, then only to cover it with another lie. A more difficult task is to expose the "political goods", which is always hiding behind a demagogue, defending them from criticism. Therefore, by the way, “hamsters”, even agreeing that Navalny is a liar, innocently forgive him: “he also contributes to the promotion of Western democracy in the country (political goods), and this alone is fighting Putin’s dictatorship”. The end justifies all means.

The “political commodity” of the West for all of Eastern Europe is the “Western model of democracy”. The spread of Western democracy in the world is the official doctrine of the United States. Although this is not necessary, in the Arab world as a “commodity” of democracy, the United States supports the “Islamic model” (Islamist movements). The fact is that with the help of Islam (Sharia), it is impossible to control modern society, even in Egypt, Islamic “democratic” rulers deprive the country of development prospects, cannot cope with the country's technological, secular problems, and destabilize society; which is what happened in Egypt, and ended with the military coup of General Al Sisi. The same problem threatens to blow up Turkey, where secular national social forces are opposing Erdogan’s Islamists for the same reason.

The “Western model of democracy” is the same simulacrum, in principle, like the “Islamic model”. There are American, French and other “democratic mechanisms” of governing society, but there is no universal “Western model”. All working models are adapted to specific countries, historically, and therefore work.

“Model democracy” as an aggregate of the best, is nowhere in the world, it’s like sewing a jacket, and declaring that it is suitable for any person. For each person, the jacket must be customized, as well as the "democratic mechanism" is individual for each nation. But the “democrats” cannot say about this - then, after all, you are not selling “universal democracy”, and they simply lie to us about its universal values ​​that this “democratic jacket” can be put on any country, people.

When the “model democracy” is put on the country, it binds all its life movements, needs, aggravates all problems, gives rise to unprecedented corruption, but for dogmatists from democracy, liberal reformers, this is another reason to accuse their own people of barbarity and immunity. to “normal” democratic institutions ...

However, more importantly, in the West, the “democratic mechanism” with its election, parties, separation of powers and other things is just a facade, behind which lies the “ruling class”, a certain oligarchic republic grouping. A kind of United America CJSC, whose shareholders are the real power, non-elected and irremovable, hiring US presidents through elections to perform representative functions.

The presidents are well aware that they are “caliphs for an hour,” that you can always impeach the president, at worst you can kill him (like Kennedy). This may seem strange, but in Russia today there is more political freedom than in the USA: our home-grown “Occupy” participate in elections, are represented in the AP of Yaroslavl (Nemtsov), and in the homeland, in the USA, they are dispersed.

Further, the “democratic mechanism” cannot work by itself without the control center in the form of United America CJSC. After all, in order to manage, we need, as Woland said, at least some plan, a program for the foreseeable future. And this plan cannot depend on the arbitrariness of the next demagogue who has won the presidential election.

To the world, the West offers “democracy as the power of the people,” that is, the power of demagogues a la Yushchenko or Saakashvili. Having come to power, they overturn the country in a crisis of “model democracy”, the country becomes “democratic” and, as it were, naturally begins to need external management from United America CJSC in order not to fall apart from the arbitrariness of its own demagogues. (It was “United America” that helped “to leave” those who did not live up to the hopes that lost their rating, Yushchenko and Saakashvili, replacing them with other people.) This is how the sales circle of this “Trojan horse” - the “western model of democracy” closes with network orange companies, and CJSC United America "extends its rule to the next young" democracy. "

The only way out for a country subjected to such ideological aggression is to spit on “model democracy”, and urgently push the “democratic mechanism” to suit you, as is done in Western countries, that is, to move on to an independent “sovereign democracy”. What Putin did with his like-minded people, for which he received the title of "dictator" in the West, and called Russia "an authoritarian country." This is absolutely logical: the public refusal of the sacred democratic product CJSC United America is a sacred crime in terms of the uniqueness of this commercial offer.

If Russia managed to get rid of this "straitjacket" - the "unique" democratic jacket, Ukraine is still in it, and therefore already in step (we will be optimists) from colonial status. However, every abomination has its limits, and the orange "controlled chaos" is controlled only to a certain extent. Orange demagogues quickly lose the confidence of the people, and then the power, as happened in Russia, and recently in Egypt. Let's hope that sooner or later this will happen in Ukraine. The resources of United America CJSC for all their demagogues in the world are clearly not enough: the global financial crisis is knocking at all ...
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  1. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 23 September 2013 09: 24 New
    +4
    In a word, a pyramid. And sooner or later she comes kirdyk.
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 23 September 2013 09: 31 New
      15
      Quote: Vrungel78
      In a word, a pyramid.

      Better - like the Egyptian. And in it, in the sarcophagi, Navalny, Nemtsov, Kasparov, Sobchak .... Although Sobchak is too much, the Egyptians did not bury the horses.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 23 September 2013 10: 32 New
        +3
        And Udaltsov ...
        Well, the Egyptians did not bury, so sound Russians will bury both horses and riders.
    2. Victor Kamenev
      23 September 2013 10: 15 New
      10
      Unfortunately, this is not a pyramid, it is a network that has a pyramidal structure, and the entire network works for the leader of "network sales" (or a group of leaders). This changes things very much, and makes network organizations in politics very dangerous, more tenacious and sophisticated than in the commerce from which they are copied.

      With financial support, they can exist indefinitely, because these are essentially religious sects, only with secular, political creeds. Without antisecting work, sects are capable of crushing the "mother church", which is why religious wars in Europe were so fierce.
      1. Vyalik
        Vyalik 23 September 2013 13: 57 New
        +9
        Russia is at least lucky. You have Putin. But we don’t even have anyone to vote for. All the time, out of two or three evils, you have to choose at least the lesser. For some reason, the lesser is the odds.
        1. kavkaz8888
          kavkaz8888 23 September 2013 18: 27 New
          +1
          And you vote for the neighbor. For Lukashenko.
      2. Botanologist
        Botanologist 23 September 2013 14: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        makes network organizations in politics very dangerous, more tenacious and sophisticated than in the commerce from which they are copied.


        In politics, there is an antidote against “rotten goods” - politics, unlike commerce, should be based on morality and values. You will notice how Putin launched an offensive in the direction of Russia's moral imperatives - the struggle against foreign agents, against perverts of all stripes, etc. I will not speak about the quality of this struggle, but the fact of such pressure forces the hamsters to correlate the moral of the bulk with the values ​​of the country. Fools, of course, cannot be cured, but politics is a long matter, and a smooth rethinking gives a result.
        This is what distinguishes a political product from a commercial one. If I bought rotten fruit - I just threw it away. In an extreme case, poisoned, so you still regret it. And if he became an adept of the bulk - no one will regret. Himself wanted to be a moron.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 23 September 2013 15: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: Botanologist
          You will notice how Putin launched an offensive in the direction of Russia's moral imperatives - the struggle against foreign agents, against perverts of all stripes, etc.

          Yes, 10 years later ... Of course it’s better late than never, but HE tightened something. Or again not allowed?
        2. Victor Kamenev
          23 September 2013 15: 20 New
          +1
          You are right about the importance of the general moral background, the national idea about which Putin spoke. But ... I probably could not convey, we are really entering a new reality, an information age, so to speak. And she dictates her rules ...
          In this new era, network organizations will have advantages over traditional parties with their programs.
          If we do not understand this, we lose. It is necessary to work on the network organizations by their methods, then the chances will equalize. It is always easier to destroy than to build, and to maintain the livelihood of society, so you can not relax.
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 23 September 2013 15: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        With financial recharge, they can exist indefinitely

        That's it, that's why you need to hit the customers, not the performers. And then it seems to some myopic that he came, the liberator of Russia. And this is another false Dmitry. And I don’t really understand why, being a practically monopolist in the supply of resources to Europe, our government does not use this lever for political pressure on the west. They are not shy.
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 23 September 2013 15: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          that’s why you need to beat by customers, not performers


          It is impossible ... according to customers request . This is a Kremlin project bully
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 23 September 2013 15: 19 New
            0
            Quote: Botanologist
            This is the Kremlin project bully

            Except that.
    3. Sadikoff
      Sadikoff 23 September 2013 13: 01 New
      0
      There has always been a hierarchy and will be. Russia must and is building its own part. Westerners are trying to embed their people in it. This is possible if they embed their pro-Russian people. Besides Navalny, there are still Chubais, some more.
  2. RussianRu
    RussianRu 23 September 2013 09: 35 New
    +5
    It’s very sad that some people still believe this talker. All his demagogy is designed for emotions. Inhales Navalny and "his witnesses-you"))))) people opinion about the facts. But young people do not know how to distinguish a fact from an opinion about a fact.
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 23 September 2013 11: 23 New
      +2
      I understand you can vtuhivat something if the saint himself, but when the stigma itself is no longer where to put what to talk about
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 23 September 2013 15: 22 New
      0
      Alain Dulles- "We will bet on youth." It has long been said.
  3. Xmypp
    Xmypp 23 September 2013 10: 16 New
    0
    And I thought they would put him in prison.
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 23 September 2013 11: 27 New
      +1
      If there wasn’t Navalny, the authorities would have to create it, and there’s a super-oppositionist who’s ready
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 23 September 2013 14: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: ivshubarin
        If Navalny were not there, the authorities would have to create it

        Good idea ...

        And let's suppose that there was never a bulkier as an independent figure - this can be explained by his awareness, clearly strong funding, inexplicable walking around at liberty after the sentence, contradictory rhetoric (one part of which forces him to support, and the other disgusts - which leads to its apparent vivid opposition with a XNUMX% guarantee of its failure in any election), etc.?
  4. stpv1
    stpv1 23 September 2013 10: 18 New
    -12
    I didn’t even read this article completely; they again want to denigrate the opposition. You need to understand that there cannot be one correct opinion, there must be several points of view, only then there will be development. GDP with the EP party completely subjugated the power in Russia, and what did it lead to? To the unprecedented heyday of corruption, the economic growth rate is declining, the country is rolling into the abyss. Bulk fellow, he states the facts, he shows corruption, he shows all interested people which people rule the country. Read about Yakunin's cottage, about Golikova, about Serdyukov and so on. All these are approximate GDP. They need to be stopped.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      23 September 2013 10: 27 New
      +6
      In Russia now there are no less opinions than in America. But Russia has a leader who already envies the whole world, and America. Russia's industrial and military potential is growing, Russia has risen from its knees, has reached the Soviet level in practice. It is difficult for our opposition members to compete with such a state leader; he is too strong.
      Corruption is everywhere in the world, and no less than in Russia, and to make a “policy” on it, to represent Putin as an “enemy of the people” is meanness, there is no such “bulk” policy anywhere in the world, here Navalny is just a son of McCain, and our "fifth column".
      1. dmb
        dmb 23 September 2013 12: 07 New
        +7
        Dear V. Kamenev! Apparently in the second sentence you made a typo. They wanted to say that the whole world is jealous of Russia, and they wrote that he is jealous of her "leader." This, of course, is closer to reality, because only in our country tariff increases, the introduction of standards restricting energy consumption, "reform" of defense and education, instead of numerous protest rallies, cause only grumbling on the Internet, and be touched by the way this "leader" graciously deigned to joke on a gathering of gentlemen who are clearly not interested in the Greatness of our country and the prosperity of its people (well, not to be considered the national guardians of Zlobin and Karaganov). Certainly, Navalny absolutely meets his last name; heaped and dumped. But if you put the surname "Putin" instead of his last name, then the latter will even surpass the part of network demagogy. After all, it is so simple, instead of solving internal problems, to tackle Syria. Of course, we do not live in isolation, and we also need to deal with Syria. But first of all, you should deal with your own country. In order to deal with it in the interests of the people, Putin would have to forget about the interests of Shuvalov, Golikova, Surkov and other "normal boys" from his circle. But he is not going to do this. Those who disagree may give examples of the opposite.
        1. Victor Kamenev
          23 September 2013 12: 51 New
          0
          Everyone thinks he is a strategist, seeing the fight from the side ...
          And from the outside it is clear that Putin started with the war, in Chechnya, and today we are already engaged in the fight against corruption, as in the whole world, this is a huge progress. You would recommend your “boys” to Putin, and let him deal with his “boys”.
          As Stalin said, I have no other "boys", I work with those who know how to do something. By the way, they forgot to mention Rogozin, and I think that there will be more and more such boys, and fewer bad ones.
          There is no need to build utopias, and the meaning of the work of the leader is not to "plant everyone". It is just possible to plant, but if the country becomes, if it becomes? Remember Peter, when he was informed about the theft of Menshikov, what did he say?
          There are no saints, the wisdom of the leader, in order to do business with the unholy, to move Russia forward.
          1. dmb
            dmb 23 September 2013 14: 43 New
            +5
            Did I write somewhere that the point of the head’s work is to put everyone in prison? It is necessary to imprison those who violate the law, and the point of the Guarantor’s work is to ensure that his subordinates treat all the "boys" equally by law. In addition, the meaning of the Guarantor’s work is to pass laws not in the interests of his “boys”, but in the interests of the majority of the people who elected him. If you believe that the examples of Putin’s activities that I have cited are committed in the interests of the majority of the population of our country, then you are more likely to build utopias. About the fight against corruption is strong. Just probably do not confuse imitation with the struggle. The fight will be when he signs the Law on Confiscation of Property. as a punishment for a crime, but for now this is pure profanity. In the dock mostly ill-fated traffic policemen sit, and Madame "Arbidol" headed the Accounts Chamber.
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 23 September 2013 15: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: Victor Kamenev
            Everyone considers himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side ..

            Naturally, the more visible. Do not believe me, go to judo competitions, or any other fight. From the side of error and achievement is always more noticeable.
            Quote: Victor Kamenev
            As Stalin said, I have no other “boys”, I work with those who know how to do anything

            Stalin said this after he put all the devils to the wall. And ours hangs on something. When you sit Khabarov with Kvachkov, and free Chubais with Serdyukov, I want to ask- Have you put those in error, Vovochka? Of course I want to believe that the ice has finally broken, but V.Vysotsky is remembered- Something that I came across horses ...
          3. bogumil
            bogumil 12 October 2013 18: 34 New
            0
            I have a wish for you: at least when you go to bed, take off your cap and epaulettes. Your scoop and training manual are so caveful, so unbridled and indecently flaunted, you so openly disrespect the local forum users that you allow yourself to rave aloud and do not hesitate to call black White. You recklessly think that since there are a lot of military people here, they think strictly according to the charter. As if they are blind and do not know how to look and draw conclusions. The lopsidedness of your judgments and conclusions clearly shows what organization you are from and for what purpose you are here.
      2. Eugeniy_369
        Eugeniy_369 23 September 2013 13: 36 New
        +3
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        went to the Soviet level almost

        Do you understand what you wrote? What is the Soviet level?
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        The industrial and military potential of Russia is growing

        Well, this is generally beyond.
        “Urya Patriot” remove your glasses.
        Putin will appoint a successor after himself then will you idolize them? Well, that's right, here on the forum I already read that autocracy should be introduced - "people, bylo. He cannot go to the toilet without a king."
        1. Victor Kamenev
          23 September 2013 15: 26 New
          -2
          I read not only our sources, but also foreign ones, they are much more objective than, for example, you.
      3. vveco
        vveco 23 September 2013 20: 47 New
        +1
        The industrial and military potential of Russia is growing, Russia rose from its knees, went to the Soviet level. Hooray comrades!
        I’ll only ask - in which industries, enlighten, pliz. How is the raw materials appendage of Omerika? And the greatest breakthrough of our time is the Olympics and how skolkovo, of course? We bake missile carriers and nuclear submarines like pies, and sell surpluses to all Indians? Or .. Only Indians and sell? And why do we need it - we have Putin and his team!
        Do you have a snag. For this "team" Russia is just a business. And nothing personal. Their families no longer live here and will not live. And while the citizens of this great country will once believe in myths about someone’s potential there and sit on TV even on election day, her fate will be sad.
        And, yes .. The fight against corruption is possible in a country where there is justice. In Russia, he is not.
    2. Alew
      Alew 23 September 2013 11: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: stpv1
      I didn’t even read this article completely; they again want to denigrate the opposition.

      In Russia, instead of an opposition, foreign agents bought with US State Department money
      1. ben gun
        ben gun 23 September 2013 14: 44 New
        +2
        And behind the noise made by these agents, normal opposition people who have at least some viable program and life plan are not visible.
    3. Botanologist
      Botanologist 23 September 2013 14: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: stpv1
      there cannot be one correct opinion, there must be several points of view, only then there will be development.


      Firstly, the correct opinion is always the same. In fact. And for any question. And your "point of view" is an attempt to find a place for chatter and demagogy. Type: "Prove to me that I am wrong." What for? There's no point.


      Quote: stpv1
      GDP with the EP party completely subjugated the power in Russia, and what did it lead to? To the unprecedented heyday of corruption, the economic growth rate is declining, the country is rolling into the abyss.


      GDP party EP is not really needed. Even without her, he will determine how he wants. EP is a union of loyal officials with whom it is necessary to put up.
      As for "crushed power" - a phrase devoid of meaning. Power either exists or does not exist. Everything else is bumbling. Moreover, GDP is power.

      "The country is rolling into the abyss" crying . A beautifully said set of beeches. 5 world economy, by the way. Through one place, we are also developing, and we are building roads and arming ourselves. Want to see how the country is heading into the abyss? - go to Detroit, see.
      1. ben gun
        ben gun 23 September 2013 14: 46 New
        0
        Unfortunately, in the short term, it seems that we will see a slide into the abyss as an example of Ukrainian neighbors.
      2. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 23 September 2013 14: 48 New
        +3
        Quote: Botanologist
        GDP party EP is not really needed
        Wrong.

        Even without her, he will determine how he wants. EP is a kind of union of loyal officials that you have to put up with
        EP is a mechanism for sending bills through the Duma.

        5 world economy, by the way
        Judging by the PPP GDP.

        And judging by the distribution of income - we are Africa.
        If we compare the growth of the locomotive of inflation - tariffs - with the growth of nominal GDP, then we conclude that there is every reason to believe that over the past 12 years, production as a whole could have decreased to 25% to the level of the 99th year (statistics on this issue, alas no).

        Through one place, we are also developing, and we are building roads and arming ourselves.
        Yeah - with the saying "will be": it will be done, it will be built, will enter the army, etc.
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 23 September 2013 15: 26 New
          +3
          Quote: Yarosvet
          EP is a mechanism for sending bills through the Duma.


          Well, like LDPR or SR is always against lol Moreover, the mechanisms of wire bills through the State Duma are a dime a dozen. And usually everything is supported (2 percent cause controversy, no more).


          Quote: Yarosvet
          And judging by the distribution of income - we are Africa.
          If we compare the growth of the locomotive of inflation - tariffs - with the growth of nominal GDP, then we conclude that there is every reason to believe that over the past 12 years, production as a whole could have decreased to 25% to the level of the 99 year (statistics on this issue, alas not)


          As for the distribution of incomes, we have bypassed Europe, we cannot reach America (if about a decile ratio), and you ... Africa. Do not play the fool and do not fool your head.

          What about tariffs and nominal GDP growth - what are you talking about? If GDP growth was determined solely by tariffs, we would observe a bubble - a sharp decline in imports / exports amid hyperinflation. And 6% per year is not particularly scary, although not in joy. But - holding a strong ruble is also dangerous, we will not master it.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 23 September 2013 16: 43 New
            0
            Quote: Botanologist
            Well, like LDPR or SR is always against
            That is, to mask actions diverging from promises and to have an absolute majority, it seems, like it is not necessary?

            Moreover, the mechanisms of wire bills through the State Duma - a dime a dozen
            The mechanism is only 1 - approval of the bill by a majority vote.

            And usually everything is supported (2 percent cause disputes, no more)
            Not 2, but much more - this is the first.
            Second - you can get your gesheft and relax when the absolute majority is with EP and therefore everything is decided. But if no one has the majority, then seditious thought may arise to play in independence (and most likely will arise, since the feeder is more solid in the Kremlin).

            (if about decile coefficient)
            I am about the distribution of income.
            I like to compare the minimum wages of countries as a percentage of GDP per capita, and until recently I used data on the Russian Federation for the 10th year, but for 2 weeks I came across an article saying that the Russian Federation caught up with Portugal in terms of PPP GDP per capita and I recounted.
            So - in Portugal, the minimum wage is 32% of GDP per capita PPP (not taxed), and in Russia (a social state, by the way laughing ) in the 10th year, the minimum wage was 12% of the PPP GDP per capita, and in the 12th and 13th - 8%.

            Do you have something to rejoice about?

            we would observe a bubble
            GDP is market COST final goods and services, or the total amount of all transactions in a particular territory over a period of time, it has an indirect relation to production volumes.
            Example: we reduce production by 10%, by administrative decision we increase prices by 20% - we have a 10% GDP growth with a reduction in production.

            And 6% per year is not particularly scary
            Housing and utilities - this is something that no household or enterprise can do without. Since 2000, tariffs have grown 16 times, and nominal GDP 8 - what 6%?
            PPP GDP has grown 3 times, the difference between it and the nominal one gives real inflation - more than 40% per year, but I talked about reducing production.

            We look: in the growth of tariffs and nominal GDP, we have a difference of 100% for which to write it off? We will write off a quarter for saving, a quarter for optimization, a quarter for cutting profits - where else can 25% be spent?
            Since I don’t have accurate calculations, I’m doing a snap calculation, but it turns out that a possible reduction in production is up to 25%, which is made up for by import - which is cheaper and which is more profitable to engage in than own production (from the point of view of the entrepreneur).
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            2. Botanologist
              Botanologist 23 September 2013 21: 47 New
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              Quote: Yarosvet
              The mechanism is only 1 - approval of the bill by a majority vote.


              So that you know - the bill still needs to get into the thought. And this is done through the Council of the Duma. And in front of him is a profile committee. The deputies get percent of 10 bills, if not less. And why do you need a majority of votes if an unnecessary project simply does not come to him?

              Quote: Yarosvet
              But if no one has a majority, then seditious thought may arise to play in independence (and most likely will arise, since the feeder is more solid in the Kremlin).


              lol . Come to the Duma and play lol . Very quickly you will no longer be invited to committees, and you will have to wipe your pants in the meeting room. And you do not decide anything there - everything is decided, as I wrote above, on the Council and in the committees.
              And about the feeding trough in the Kremlin - what is a Duma without a majority and what is the way to the Kremlin, we saw in 1993. And in Ukraine almost daily lol


              Quote: Yarosvet
              we reduce production by 10%, by administrative decision we increase prices by 20% - we have a GDP growth of 10% with a decrease in production.


              Have you fallen for a long time? Increase the prices of VAZ by 10000% or steel by 500% - and what, get rich? I doubt it.
              That's why I gave an example through import / export, so that you do not write nonsense. But it didn't seem to help request

              Quote: Yarosvet
              PPP GDP has grown 3 times, the difference between it and the nominal one gives real inflation - more than 40% per year, but I talked about reducing production.


              The difference between it and the nominal is just a different withdrawal of assets, ranging from the stabilization fund to projects abroad by an offshore business. Who taught you economics at school?
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 24 September 2013 10: 49 New
                0
                Quote: Botanologist
                So that you know - the bill still needs to get into the thought. And this is done through the Council of the Duma. And in front of him is a profile committee.

                And you do not decide anything there - everything is decided, as I wrote above, on the Council and in the committees.
                The Council of the Duma of whom consists?

                Have you fallen for a long time?
                And you, my friend, hamlo laughing
                Once again, for the gifted: tariffs are rising, and without electricity, sewage, water supply and other things, not a single enterprise is working and not a single household is functioning.
                Tariff growth over 12 years - 1500% of housing and communal services and 1000% of electricity. Working in this system, both the manufacturer, the seller, and the intermediary - are forced to raise prices despite optimization, saving and cutting the rate of profit (which, admittedly, was initially overstated) - the same VAZ 21213 has grown in price (in dollars since 2000) ) by 250-300% (which gives at least 20% inflation per year for this model), and this despite the fact that the car is not a primary commodity and mass consumption, and the model and brand are not particularly popular.

                The difference between it and the nominal is just a different withdrawal of assets, from the stabilization fund to projects abroad in the offshore business.
                What the hell is a dog’s asset withdrawal if, on the one hand, we have an increase in the amount of completed transactions correlated with purchasing power parity, and on the other, nominal growth?
                All officially withdrawn assets are preliminarily accounted for in nominal GDP (on the basis of which PPP GDP is then calculated), and offshore assets are not taken into account in GDP at all (as well as for example illegal drug and arms trafficking).

                Who taught you economics
                Apparently the one to whom your teacher is not suitable for soles.
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  6. ZU-23
    ZU-23 23 September 2013 11: 14 New
    +3
    damn so tired of the face of this bulkhead fool, such an opposition does not even need to give a word, it is better to listen to simple and honest people.
  7. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 23 September 2013 11: 20 New
    +1
    How can you wish evil to the country in which you live, some kind of stupidity
  8. Vorkot cat
    Vorkot cat 23 September 2013 11: 35 New
    +4
    The author forgot to clarify that all of the above figures - Saakashvili, Yushchenko. Navalny were trained at Yale
    This famous US university is known for producing orange revolutionaries on the assembly line. And a joke in the subject

    "A candidate for mayor of Moscow, Navalny categorically denied that while studying at Yale, he was recruited by the CIA, and in evidence presented a certificate from the CIA that he was not an agent of this serious organization."
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 23 September 2013 15: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Cat Workot
      The author forgot to clarify that all of the above figures - Saakashvili, Yushchenko. Navalny were trained at Yale
      This famous US university is known for producing orange revolutionaries on the assembly line.

      Quote: ALEW
      Quote: stpv1
      I didn’t even read this article completely; they again want to denigrate the opposition.

      In Russia, instead of an opposition, foreign agents bought with US State Department money

      It’s just curious - what for does the State Department buy someone in the opposition (or create this opposition) if, according to Fedorov (which almost all Zaputintsy believe in), the State Department’s agents are the lion's share of Duma deputies, members of the government and members of the Federation Council? laughing
  9. AvadraCedavra
    AvadraCedavra 23 September 2013 11: 47 New
    -9
    The complete nonsense! I read and cried. I wonder what sources confirm the information specified in the article. Probably only the conclusions of the author. I especially liked the author’s statement that Islamic “democratic” rulers deprive the country of development prospects. Well yes ... the UAE and Saudi Arabia are very backward countries. Enough in the article and outright slander. The author aims to denigrate Navalny, who has done a lot to fight corruption in Russia. In general, Russia is turning into a backward country of the Third World, led by the irreplaceable tsar - Putin. The totalitarian regime, censorship, the lack of a fair trial, the level of corruption at all levels, the backward draft army, which until recently went in foot cloth, but a lot of things ... It seems that everything Putin has done is work for the public when a trifle is done (like reforms in the army by reducing personnel, arming and taking a new form, a small victorious war with Georgia showing the backwardness of the army, the fight against migration by declaring amnesty for illegal immigrants or ostentatious successes in current policy), but in general the situation in the country remains deplorable.
    People like Navalny who are not afraid to fight the Putin regime and be repressed for this are very rare.
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 23 September 2013 12: 13 New
      +3
      who has done a lot to fight corruption , and he actively participated in it in the Kirov region
    2. klavyr
      klavyr 23 September 2013 12: 52 New
      +1
      They are trying to turn Russia into a country of the 3rd world, and Putin is like a bone in the throat of "democratizers". And do not la la about the fact that in Russia everything is bad. Are you by any chance not one of people like Navalny who are not afraid to fight the Putin regime? If not a secret, what is the purpose of your struggle?
    3. Victor Kamenev
      23 September 2013 13: 29 New
      0
      A number of experts wrote about the prospects of precisely “Islamic development”, and about its Egyptian deadlock, theoretically - A.A. Zinoviev. Saudi Arabia, Qatar - very backward countries, oil kingdoms, armed with the United States, rich, given their not very large population. And most importantly - there is no democracy at all, even the Syrian shadow.
      About the "totalitarian regime", "censorship" ... Yes, you, my friend, from the Navalny sect, another son of McCain. For you, the situation will be increasingly pitiable, we will try ...
    4. Botanologist
      Botanologist 23 September 2013 14: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: AvadraCedavra
      The author aims to denigrate Navalny, who has done a lot to fight corruption in Russia.


      Please, pliz, give a few criminal cases against corrupt officials who began and won bulk (except for Kirovles, of course).

      Quote: AvadraCedavra
      Russia is turning into a backward country of the Third World led by the irremovable tsar - Putin. The totalitarian regime, censorship, the absence of a fair trial, the level of corruption at all levels, the backward draft army, in which until recently went in footcloths,


      Totalitarian regime? My friend, you use the term, but don’t even know its meaning. MINUS for this one.
      And about footcloths - generally a pearl. Have you ever done a throw march in your boots? And how did your socks hold?
      I'm not saying that footcloths are a miracle, but then the belt in the Chinese army is a sign of backwardness and hopeless lagging behind modern life. Do you know what the belt was put into soldier uniform for?
      1. Eugeniy_369
        Eugeniy_369 23 September 2013 18: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: Botanologist
        Please, pliz, a few criminal cases against corrupt officials, which bulk began and won

        But is he already the prosecutor general, or can anyone who wants to bring a case to another person have a case? Why are you talking nonsense? Probably you filed a case about Kirovles.
        The logic is iron- Bulk shpien, a thief and finally hire a western and at the same time from evidence of studying in Yale (Nabiullina identity hire?) And a set of rumors from the category of OBS.
        Quote: Botanologist
        belt in the chinese army

        And then what about the belt, or besides "dur.k" itself, is there nothing more to write? The man brought the fact about the footcloths, and you, in addition to the demagogue about the march of throws, have essentially nothing to answer.
        Quote: Botanologist
        You never made a march in your boots

        They did ... and washed the footcloths and sweeping the parade ground with crowbars.
        Quote: Botanologist
        And how your socks held

        This is finally a pearl - but what for me how will they hold? Make quality shoes and socks. I defend my homeland, and not think about the safety of socks.
        According to your logic, the toilet and birdhouse at the bus station should be proud of.
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 23 September 2013 21: 56 New
          0
          Quote: Eugeniy_369
          But is he already the prosecutor general, or can anyone who wants to bring a case to another person have a case?


          You will be surprised, but maybe. Read the Code of Criminal Procedure.

          Quote: Eugeniy_369
          Logic of iron - Bulk spyen, a thief and finally hire a western


          I wrote that this is a Kremlin project. Take a closer look with the arguments.

          Quote: Eugeniy_369
          The man brought the fact about the footcloths, and you, in addition to the demagogue about the march of throws, have essentially nothing to answer.


          "The man brought the fact about footcloths" what He did not cite the fact, but sentenced the country because of footcloths. Like, everyone is backward and are heading for the abyss. I just continued the logic in his system of arguments. So demagoguery - you look for it at home.


          Quote: Eugeniy_369
          This is finally a pearl - but what for me how will they hold? Make quality shoes and socks. I defend my homeland, and not think about the safety of socks.


          As for "I'm defending my homeland," are you talking about? If you had served even a day, you would not have written the answer to my words abstractly. And if they ran at least 100 meters in socks and boots, they would also not carry nonsense.
  10. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 23 September 2013 12: 06 New
    -2
    And that our country’s budget is still not being sawn and ruthlessly not stolen. But what about the glorious reformer Serdyukov with his assistant, not jurisdictional prosecutors outside Moscow, the winter Olympics in southern Sochi, poorly taking off satellites of the Russian cosmos. With this, how?
    It is very strange that no one has accused Navalny of lying and slandering for his RosPil. Why?
    Unfortunately, the "Western model of democracy" has long been with us. In the 90s we firmly embarked on these rails. Everything that was created by the hard work of the people is now in the hands of business, even the country's natural wealth is the same. See what happened to medicine and education. Yes, and there are already so many migrants on the streets of our cities that they can be compared with the European level (this is the question of the “Islamization” of the country), which, by the way, is slowly squeezing Russians out of workers (while workers) with crazy dumping in the labor market.
    So not everything is so simple.
    And most importantly, it is not necessary to give fertile soil to the enemies of Russia. And if the thief stole it, he drank it in jail! Just not in words but in deed! And then the vile machinations of the Americans will not be scary!
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 23 September 2013 15: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Dimon-chik-79
      See what happened to medicine and education. Yes, and migrants on the streets of our cities

      Bulk is not the cure for this disease. With the same success, you can drink a laxative for diarrhea. Izborsk club is suitable, only the dose should be three more than now.
  11. Lech
    Lech 23 September 2013 12: 10 New
    +2
    AvadraCedavra: The author aims to denigrate Navalny, who has done a lot to fight corruption in Russia
    Stunned, it turns out that selling himself to the Americans, he is fighting corruption. I am simply amazed at this world, it is definitely crazy. What else did not put Navalny ...?
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 23 September 2013 12: 15 New
      +1
      Whoever planted him, he’s the “monument” of the opposition
    2. Dimon-chik-79
      Dimon-chik-79 23 September 2013 13: 06 New
      +2
      It’s interesting, but besides Navalny, does anyone publicly and openly fight corruption in Russia?
      In fact, for example, I would be glad if a project similar to RosPil would not have appeared at Lesha Navalny but on the website of the Investigative Committee with ticks about the measures taken and saved budget funds!
      And for example, no cars for 5-7 lyam for the regional "belly button"!
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 23 September 2013 13: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: Dimon-chik-79
        It’s interesting, but besides Navalny, does anyone publicly and openly fight corruption in Russia?

        Honestly, the fight against corruption in Russia often resembles the struggle of clans for a feeding trough. And Bulk bright representative of one of these clans ...
      2. Victor Kamenev
        23 September 2013 13: 23 New
        +1
        The Accounting Chamber is really fighting corruption (Stepashin). Many facts for Rospil Navalny (his company) were taken precisely from the website of the Accounts Chamber, and made a scandal on this, Stepashin himself said.
    3. Eugeniy_369
      Eugeniy_369 23 September 2013 13: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Lyokha
      Stunned, it turns out that selling himself to the Americans, he is fighting corruption. I am simply amazed at this world, it is definitely crazy. What else did not put Navalny ...?

      Damn, here they are the fruits of frequent viewing zomboyaschika. Lech you share information for how much Navalny sold, if possible then the screen payment from the State Department. If you know that Navalny has sold, then it will not be difficult for you.
  12. AvadraCedavra
    AvadraCedavra 23 September 2013 12: 29 New
    -2
    Quote: Lyokha
    selling himself to americos he is fighting corruption


    I wonder where you got such information. Share the source. Or stop talking nonsense.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      23 September 2013 13: 18 New
      +4
      Internship Navalny in the United States, in the same institute as Saakashvili is a fact. The support of his very high shtatovskih figures, and odious, such as McCain - a fact. All his tactics of “fighting the regime” are based on Gene Sharp's training manual, funding from around the world on the Internet, unique for Russia financing. His "brother" Kozlovsky (I think so), had just arrived from the United States, where he studied, immediately became one of its main staff officers, dealt with leaflets at the "strange apartment" ... The list can be continued, but why? All the hatred McCain recently spewed has long been spewing Bulk. Irrefutable fact.
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist 23 September 2013 14: 34 New
      0
      Quote: AvadraCedavra
      and where did you get such information. Share the source. Or stop talking nonsense.


      Maybe you can refute? Well, there, publish the sources of bulk income, a list of property of him and his relatives, expenses for political activity, etc.
      Do you even know how much the election campaign of one lousy deputy costs in Moscow? Not to mention mayors, etc.
      1. Eugeniy_369
        Eugeniy_369 23 September 2013 17: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Botanologist
        Maybe you can refute? Well, there, publish the sources of bulk income, a list of property of him and his relatives, expenses for political activity, etc.

        Why disprove? Have you heard about the presumption of innocence? Actually, here they say that Navalny
        sold to amers, so prove it, documented. But you can’t do this, and you dodge, write garbage like you have to prove Disprove that someone was not for sale there. An amusing thing - a citizen must prove that he is innocent, read somewhere that the prosecution proves guilty, it’s a pity that in our state a person should prove to you "truth-loving public prosecutors" that he is not a thief, and not vice versa as in the whole civilized world.
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 23 September 2013 22: 00 New
          0
          Quote: Eugeniy_369
          Actually, here they say that Navalny
          sold to amers, so prove it, documented. But you can’t do this, and you dodge, write garbage like you have to prove, REFUT that someone was not for sale there.


          I wrote that this is a Kremlin project, do not distort. They just found a tupar with a complex and use it, that's all. What is incomprehensible here?

          Quote: Eugeniy_369
          An amusing thing - a citizen must prove that he is innocent, read somewhere that the prosecution proves guilty, it’s a pity that in our state a person should prove to you "truth-loving public prosecutors" that he is not a thief, and not vice versa as in the whole civilized world.


          He owes me nothing. I only state my opinion.
          As for the "civilized world" - in America the bulk would have been sitting for a long time. And, I suspect, in an electric chair. Just for one insult to the President.
  13. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 23 September 2013 12: 41 New
    +2
    There is probably a truth that Navalny is convenient for the authorities because of his outrageousness, predictability and messy CV. Somewhere he resembles the leader of the Kurds, to whom the verdict has been passed and can be carried out at any moment. It is much harder to fight ideological communists. They do not steal, they are pure, thoughts are also pure, behind the back is the experience of professional revolutionaries. Yes there are none. crying. Yes, probably already.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      23 September 2013 13: 37 New
      0
      It’s really hard to find ideological communists, because what is communism? Utopia, it has exhausted itself, but the name remains. There will always be people who believe in utopia, and those who earn money from it, there are both in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. In our re-division there are communist-businessmen, and with a very muddy past. Yes, and the feds: it is necessary to live today ...
  14. Lech
    Lech 23 September 2013 12: 51 New
    +2
    I wonder where you got such information. Share the source. Or stop talking nonsense.


    Here, without any sources, everything is visible, it will be enough for you to use Wikipedia, because judging by your statements, you are not the person who understands everything adequately ... Counter-question: where did you get the info that Navalny is fighting corruption? And what did he do, except to report to his American masters who and how many had stolen and not only. I think you would have done well. It seems to me that you are talking nonsense and what is insolent.
    1. Eugeniy_369
      Eugeniy_369 23 September 2013 13: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Lyokha
      Here, and without any sources, everything is visible, for you Wikipedia is enough

      The iron argument. Well, without words sad .
      PS It seems that all the "Kremlin bots", "Nashistiki" and footcloths, when mentioning the name Navalny, are running from everywhere.
      Yes figs with him Bulk, not he will be so different. Here the whole point is that he dared to roll a barrel on Solntselikov. Why didn’t they change the constitution and arrange castling?
  15. stpv1
    stpv1 23 September 2013 13: 02 New
    +1
    Bulk makes me respect. It seems to me that he is the only one who has found the courage to fight against today's uncontested power. He is the only one who speaks openly of bureaucratic theft, of the lawlessness of judges. On this site there are many who are not indifferent to the fate of our armed forces. But answer me, where is Serdyukov and his team? Have they been punished for theft and undermining the fighting efficiency of our army? No! They just moved to another warm place, sit and relax
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 23 September 2013 13: 15 New
      0
      Quote: stpv1
      ? Have they been punished for theft and undermining the fighting efficiency of our army? No! They just moved to another warm place, sit and relax

      The trial will end, and then we will discuss what concerns Serdyukov and K.
      And Navalny, what is sitting at the distillery and other things?
      1. Eugeniy_369
        Eugeniy_369 23 September 2013 13: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Russ69
        And Navalny, what is sitting at the distillery and other things?

        About the distillery of the deputy "ER" put under arrest with roots. You probably heard the ring, but did not understand where he is wink . Google to the rescue. Although the GDP itself was wrong, but oh well, it’s been hanging the people’s ears many times, so we pretend that we believe.
    2. Ulysses
      Ulysses 23 September 2013 13: 24 New
      +3
      C'mon, the only one.
      Baba Lera is cooler, only pushed her "creative generation". laughing
    3. Victor Kamenev
      23 September 2013 13: 44 New
      0
      Absolutely unique, and courageous, and no alternative. You are already singing a hosanna, tomorrow you will begin to pray, the new God is Navalny! Opened repeating all gosdepovskie proclamations! And Serdyukov has already been suspended and under investigation, and not Navalny, but Putin, he himself said about this ..
      1. Eugeniy_369
        Eugeniy_369 23 September 2013 17: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        And Serdyukov is already suspended and under investigation

        Killed laughing . "Under investigation"as a witness, damn I can’t fuck)))))))
        Do you have any specific sources of information? lol .
    4. Botanologist
      Botanologist 23 September 2013 14: 36 New
      0
      Quote: stpv1
      It seems to me that he is the only one who has found the courage to fight with today's uncontested power


      Yes, you Solovyov "to the barrier" look - there is no place to drop an apple from such wrestlers. And everyone is bold - I'm already trembling.
  16. FIRE
    FIRE 23 September 2013 13: 14 New
    +1
    In any commercial network company, its “product” is literally a subject of worship, and ordinary networkers are required to unconditionally believe in the unique properties of their product, because without such faith it will not “infect” the buyer

    Looks very bad at the Cooperative "Lake", if even his own adherents do not seem to believe in the "unique properties" of his product.



    As Stanislavsky said: I DO NOT BELIEVE!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 23 September 2013 13: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: FIRE
      Looks very bad at the Cooperative "Lake", if even its own adherents do not seem to believe in its "unique properties".

      See the fans of the Navalny sect, "Light from Ivanov", for all occasions, as the main argument ... laughing
      1. Mikola
        Mikola 23 September 2013 13: 31 New
        +1
        for interest in Ukraine, Navalny is considered a Russian Nazi and does not see much difference between Putin’s policy towards Ukraine and his statements.
    2. Ulysses
      Ulysses 23 September 2013 16: 14 New
      +1
      Well, a fool, what to take from her ??
      Along, except. recourse
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 24 September 2013 02: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Ulysses
        Well, a fool, what to take from her ??
        Along, except. recourse

        No vodka is enough ... laughing
    3. I
      I HAVE T 24 September 2013 06: 58 New
      0
      We fulfill the order, hamsters? I got you here. Just work clumsily like that. Already the Light from Ivanovo dragged. I suggest - on this site zhezhnoe trolling does not work well, turn on the brain!
  17. Mikola
    Mikola 23 September 2013 13: 43 New
    -2
    Using the methods of the author, it is possible to form an anti-orange counter-revolution in the project of the so-called Russian world that promoted Russian leadership and the Russian Orthodox Church and which conceded the grandiose fiaxo in Ukraine, the Baltic states, and Moldova. Since the rozungas of color revolutions are fair elections, salaries, pensions, courts, the recognition of peoples' right to their history and language, the counter-revolution of the Russian world is total corruption, a single story based on only the “truth” from the Kremlin and one language, unequal relations between countries. And this counter-revolution was generously funded from Moscow through various public funds. The main stake in the counter-revolution of the Russian world was made on the Russian-speaking population of the CIS countries and the Baltic states. Does everyone already know the failure of the counter-revolution of the Russian world?)) For some reason, Russian speakers did not support it ... am That is why such articles appear to justify the failure of their counter-revolution of the Russian world.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      23 September 2013 13: 51 New
      0
      Do not remind with what rating Yushchenko released the Ukrainian people? 3%! You out of these three percent, it seems, and soon will be even less when the homosexual hand of Europe covers the kindergartens and schools of Ukraine. Do you even think about your children. The material on the experience of Latvia, see this site above.
      1. Mikola
        Mikola 23 September 2013 14: 03 New
        -2
        I have long been waiting for such a question)))) Yushchenko is considered in Ukraine to be Judas, whom he betrayed the Orange Revolution, this time. After the Orange Revolution, all new parties (all opposition) became focused only on European integration, these are two. And the third, most ridiculous, the main opponents of Ukraine’s European integration into the EU are pedaristic movements of Europe. Do you happen to agree with them your point of view?))
        1. Victor Kamenev
          23 September 2013 14: 36 New
          +4
          Yushchenko is Judah, well, and his revolution is not his, then whose? Is revolution itself? In the 1 Instructions, I wrote why Ukraine was able to be hooked, and why the orange parties, without Yushchenko, are getting bitter. The Sharpe Manual says that first you need to create a network of NGOs and NGOs, they form a network with which the hook does not break, they form a new orange, without Yushchenko. There are no Russian NGOs and NGOs in Ukraine.
          The pederastic forces of Europe cannot be opponents of Ukraine’s European integration, they need new victims for defilement. They demand "their" Ukraine, this is another matter. And do not exaggerate their political significance, they are only extras, decisions are made by United Europe. You don’t want to be in United Russia; you’ll be in United Europe, that is, in a ... ne.
        2. mehmeh
          mehmeh 7 December 2014 00: 50 New
          0
          And what in Ukraine without revolutions in any way?
          Court parliament political process
          Obama recently spoke at the World Tribal Congress
          Who was there from the Ukrainian tribe?)
          Tribalism of some kind)
  18. stpv1
    stpv1 23 September 2013 14: 16 New
    -1
    Quote: Victor Kamenev
    Do not remind with what rating Yushchenko released the Ukrainian people? 3%! You out of these three percent, it seems, and soon will be even less when the homosexual hand of Europe covers the kindergartens and schools of Ukraine. Do you even think about your children. The material on the experience of Latvia, see this site above.


    It seems to me that you are obsessed with peda .... oh hand of Europe. You look at the standard of living in Europe, it is an order of magnitude higher. And then look at Russia, how pensioners live, how young people can’t find a normal job to allow themselves to live and feed their families. And then compare the resources that Russia has and let's say Poland. Russia is a rich country, and lives worse than countries in which there is practically nothing. The most important issue for Russia now is demography. Russia is dying out. How does the state help the birth rate, I’ll tell you nothing! No, to solve real issues, to help families give birth to children, our government is fighting gay pride parades.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      23 September 2013 14: 50 New
      +1
      About homosexuals recalled the material on the site from Lithuania, it is terrible ... The standard of living in Europe was formed before the 1991 year, thank God, there were no 90's there.
      You look better at the standard of living in the same Baltic states, Bulgaria. The Baltic states are falling into neglect, in Bulgaria - a crisis and unrest.
      We still had growth, although it stops.
      Russia is the richest country in terms of resources, but not rich in budget, do not rush stereotypes! Brazil, India and others are also rich in resources! And our resources are all in permafrost, they still need to be mined, and we must also maintain space and defense, otherwise we will remain without resources and the country! In terms of consumption, Russia has already become
      on par with Europe, latest statistics,
      formed "consumer values" ...
      Last, Russia is no longer dying! Check out the statistics ... And the anti-pederastic laws give hope that they will not die out, although their guides are trying ... Gay parades need to be fought first: create, corrupting the youth, it will not work.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 23 September 2013 16: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        Last, Russia is no longer dying! Check out the statistics ... And the anti-pederastic laws give hope that they will not die out, although their guides are trying ... Gay parades need to be fought first: create, corrupting the youth, it will not work.

        You are an optimist, my friend. Statistics, especially official ones, are published with an eye to power. It was the Russians who did not increase the birth rate. I agree with the rest.
        1. Victor Kamenev
          23 September 2013 17: 04 New
          +2
          It seems to you that only the American one, it is objective ... Russia is Russia, not only Russians, but also other Russian peoples, as everyone in the world considers us, and enlightened Europe. And every time I see the birth rate in my park, in wheelchairs, without any statistics.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 23 September 2013 17: 45 New
            0
            Quote: Victor Kamenev
            other Russian peoples, which everyone in the world considers us to be,

            Exactly. Others. Now a lot of money is being allocated for the development of national autonomies, for their cultural development with a great emphasis on their national identity. But for some reason they forgot about the development of the state-forming nation. And about strollers, I don’t know about you, I live in Tolyatti, so there are about 20 chernyavki in strollers. Over time, this percentage will only increase.
            Quote: Victor Kamenev
            It seems to you that only the American serve, it is objective ...

            Are you kidding me? WHEN IS THE AMERICAN STATISTICS SINNELY SINNED?
        2. Russ69
          Russ69 24 September 2013 02: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          You are an optimist, my friend. Statistics, especially official ones, are published with an eye to power. It was the Russians who did not increase the birth rate. I agree with the rest.

          Statistics, would look for a start ... If you do not like the official, bring another.
  19. AvadraCedavra
    AvadraCedavra 23 September 2013 14: 39 New
    -4
    Quote: Victor Kamenev
    Victor Kamenev

    Quote: Victor Kamenev
    Navalny's internship in the USA ...


    What is bad is that Navalny studied at Yale University - this is one of the best educational institutions in the world, to which the best Russian universities are like the moon. And the fact that Saakashvili was studying there still does not say anything except him, 5 US presidents or Elvira Nabiullina, the chairman of the Central Bank of Russia, studied there. Support from US political figures also does not mean anything, given that this is a real opponent of the Putin authoritarian system, and the pressure of Navalny and his people makes it possible to finance his activities only from abroad. No one wants to be held criminally liable in a trumped-up case for supporting the opposition. It is not surprising that Navalny uses in his work the works of great public figures, including D. Sharpe (methods of non-violent struggle with authoritarian regimes), he studied in the United States. So there are no facts confirming that there is no and cannot be the bulk protege of the USA. Navalny is perhaps the only person who openly entered the fight against the Putin regime, despite the threat to his security. And it deserves respect.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      23 September 2013 15: 01 New
      +2
      This is nothing bad for you, you seem to be from the same university. I also have universities in the background, and I remind you that there are many faculties at universities, they are different, there is a separate department for Navalny and Saakashvili.
      If for you Sharpe is a great public figure, this ideological demolition man, then who are you? Really ... too? Yes, that is right. How, "Putin's authoritarian system", Navalny simply must receive funds to undermine it!
      And in general, the United States is a stronghold of democracy, and they wish Russia prosperity and happiness, as the great Democrat McCain said. What are you, too, McCain? There are far fewer fools in Russia than you think, let's see who will be the last to laugh ...
    2. FIRE
      FIRE 23 September 2013 15: 32 New
      0
      I have graduates of the Jewish Academy named after Maimonides cause more concern.



      Although for the cheers, they are certainly "their own", "politically close."

      Z.Y. Of the 18 detained Chichs who attacked police officers, Russian “justice” condemned only 2, measuring out 1 and 2 years of imprisonment in a penal colony
      http://www.m24.ru/articles/13366
      Compare this with 4,5 years, "given" for chipped "tooth enamel", "pitching" and "strangler" with Bolotnaya - Maxim Luzyanin, despite the fact that he pleaded guilty, the case was examined in a special manner and there are dependents on Luzyanin minor child.
      1. Victor Kamenev
        23 September 2013 16: 58 New
        +1
        And you compare, the Chechen battalions in the 8-day war with Georgia played a big role, our expert from KP Baranovsky noted this, and your “real patriots”, political friends to you, continued to sling “authoritarian regime” at this time.
        1. FIRE
          FIRE 23 September 2013 18: 26 New
          +4
          Quote: Victor Kamenev
          the Chechen battalions in the 8-day war with Georgia played a big role, our expert also noted

          In the 90s, liquidity and liberalism inspired us to think that without American Landlize we would have lost the German war.
          Today, Putin’s "imperial" propagandists are bringing in "Chechen battalions" (in fact, two companies of the Vostok Special Forces battalion), in fact, not even military units, but mercenary units without which rodents would have spoiled everything until Rostov " .
          What is interesting - in spite of the "large role" of these ethnic "guard units" of the ruling regime, they have not been called up to the regular army of chicha, nor have they been called up. What would characterize the level of their reliability.
  20. AvadraCedavra
    AvadraCedavra 23 September 2013 17: 07 New
    -3
    Quote: Botanologist
    Maybe you can refute? Well, there, publish the sources of bulk income, a list of property of him and his relatives, expenses for political activity, etc.


    It is easy, given that he was a candidate for mayor of Moscow, according to paragraph 3 of Article 33 of the Federal Law of 12.06.2002 N 67-ФЗ "On Basic Guarantees of Electoral Rights and the Right to Participate in the Referendum of Citizens of the Russian Federation", parts 4 and 5 of Article 47 The law of the city of Moscow dated 11.06.2003 N 36, he provided information about income for himself and his family members. You can see for yourself, this information is in the public domain. As for the cost of the election campaign for deputies, then about $ 30 per voter.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 23 September 2013 17: 50 New
      0
      Quote: AvadraCedavra
      He provided information about income for himself and his family members.

      HA, HA, HA. Do you believe that yourself?
    2. I
      I HAVE T 24 September 2013 07: 05 New
      0
      He provided information, but forgot about the company in Montenegro.) It is very amusing that they are bulked up when they cite the laws of the Russian Federation favorably and when it is not profitable - they call the same laws Putin, anti-people, etc.
  21. In
    In the book 23 September 2013 17: 25 New
    0
    Quote: Wyalik
    Russia is at least lucky. You have Putin. But we don’t even have anyone to vote for. All the time, out of two or three evils, you have to choose at least the lesser. For some reason, the lesser is the odds.


    Yes, do not choose the lesser evil, it is better not to choose at all. To come to the polling station and vote either against everyone (these deliberately removed such an item in the ballot) or vote for a worthy candidate or just ruin the ballot. No one is to blame for the fact that in our most beautiful country, in Ukraine, we allow such bad people to rule (as it were softer).
  22. mithridate
    mithridate 23 September 2013 17: 26 New
    +1
    it is necessary to burn the fifth columns in Slavic countries with hot iron. To develop a strategy of one’s own development path that is fundamentally different from the model of Western “democracy”
  23. AvadraCedavra
    AvadraCedavra 23 September 2013 17: 35 New
    -4
    Quote: Botanologist
    Totalitarian regime?


    Totalitarianism is a form of relationship between society and power, in which political power takes complete (total) control of society, completely controlling all aspects of human life. Manifestations of the opposition in any form are brutally and mercilessly suppressed or suppressed by the state. Another important feature of totalitarianism is the creation of the illusion of full approval by the people of the actions of this government. The authoritarian regime is not much different from the totalitarian one. I think the parallels from the definition with the current situation in Russia are obvious. The forecasts for the surging for the country are sad. While Putin controls the legislative, executive and judicial branches, the country has no future. And the transition from an authoritarian to a totalitarian regime is only a matter of time.
    The march is a good run and in berets, it all depends on the quality of the shoes. Maybe tell me, soldiers, which army besides Russia go in footcloths?
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 23 September 2013 17: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: AvadraCedavra
      While Putin controls the legislative, executive and judicial branches, the country has no future.

      Putin is certainly not ideal, BUT depending on who to compare. On the contrary, Lukoshenko is weak of course, and next to Navalny, well, practically a saint.
      Quote: AvadraCedavra
      The throw march and in berets runs quite well, it all depends on the quality of the shoes

      Question. Did he go in footcloths?
    2. Victor Kamenev
      23 September 2013 18: 01 New
      +2
      So I say, the United States is a totalitarian state, the political “two-party system” took the whole of America under its hood (the Democrats are fundamentally different from the Republicans, only the Fed knows), the archaic electoral system allows unlimited manipulation in elections, the lobbying system is legalized corruption, this is how the fight against corruption in an American way. The law legalizes all this crap.

      The real "occupy" opposition is destroyed by the CIA-NSA mercilessly and mercilessly. Compare with free Russia!

      Snowden opened the electronic cap over America, which already resembles Orwell's anti-utopia, she was taken as a sample. Snowden declared an enemy of the people, as democratic ...
      Armed to the teeth, the country that has unleashed all the recent wars speaks ... about democracy! This Goebbelslow propaganda, the future of America - an exclusive reservation.
      The financial collapse of the United States is inevitable, and the world will applaud him, especially Latin America, who knows American pinochet well. But we will send Yankee humanitarian aid - footwoman.
      1. Eugeniy_369
        Eugeniy_369 23 September 2013 19: 01 New
        -1
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        The financial collapse of the United States is inevitable, and the world will applaud him, especially Latin America, who knows American pinochet well. But we will send Yankee humanitarian aid - footwoman.

        In one great country, too, the orators screamed from the stands. As a result, in the early 90s, humanitarian aid (which remained after Amer’s Desert Storm) received and remained silent about the “rotten West”.
    3. Eugeniy_369
      Eugeniy_369 23 September 2013 19: 38 New
      -4
      Quote: AvadraCedavra
      Maybe tell me, soldiers, which army besides Russia go in footcloths?

      They won’t say lol . Only on babble about the Chinese belt and demagoguery about the march of throws in porn they could scrape together wink .
      The fact is stubborn, except for Russia everyone has long abandoned the footcloths, you can’t blame Navalny for that ... but I'm proud of the footcloths .... I'd rather be proud of the Hermitage or the "USSR Super Series - Canada 1972", and not a porno. But if anyone wants to be proud .... in a free country, we live wink or not already?
      1. 7ydmco
        7ydmco 24 September 2013 00: 09 New
        +2
        For a real hand-shake creak, the main question of our time is how to walk in footcloths? Apparently this is such a scary, dark, totalitarian word that causes a terrible horror in a Europoid person smile
  24. Altona
    Altona 23 September 2013 18: 34 New
    +3
    I do not understand American success, based on perpetual credit ... What kind of success is it when you constantly owe big money to someone? I saw one movie star about a “successful” American who developed a network of timeshares through constantly borrowing loans for the development and maintenance of zombie managers, who actually vacated the poor for a week on a poor ... As soon as there was a serious payment crisis, the shop immediately collapsed like a pack from cookies ... I don’t know, all this is a vanity fair in my opinion ...
    1. Eugeniy_369
      Eugeniy_369 23 September 2013 19: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Altona
      I do not understand American success, based on perpetual credit ... What kind of success is it when you constantly owe big money to someone?

      I agree about the loan. But just why, right after the Great Patriotic War, they predicted a collapse, and as a result, the Union collapsed? Yes, and they had a hand in it, but why didn’t we have a hand in their sunset or had little to do? Why are these “debtors” still on the map? Explain who the thread is why these mattresses have not yet fallen apart.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 23 September 2013 19: 29 New
        +1
        Quote: Eugeniy_369
        But just why immediately after the Great Patriotic War they predicted a collapse ...
        Because the collapse is the logical outcome of the socio-economic model that is now operating throughout the world.

        ... but in the end the Union fell apart? Yes, and they had a hand ...
        What they attached is like an elephant shot. laughing
        The reason for the collapse of the USSR was the desire of part of the Soviet nomenclature to transfer into personal property what it could only manage before.
        1. Eugeniy_369
          Eugeniy_369 23 September 2013 19: 59 New
          +2
          Quote: Yarosvet
          The reason for the collapse of the USSR was the desire of part of the Soviet nomenclature to transfer into personal property what it could only manage before.

          I agree. But I think this is not the main reason.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 23 September 2013 20: 07 New
            0
            I don’t see others - for example, the “mistakes” in the economy are so stupid that they could only be committed with purpose. All other jambs from the same series.
  25. klm-57
    klm-57 23 September 2013 20: 14 New
    0
    Firstly, the author has problems with the Russian language: "... we will be optimists." "Where did you, blue, study at the Central School of Art?" Secondly, the author in the article resorts to a metaphor (for the illiterate - to a figurative comparison), and this already suggests that his goal is - "dusting the brain." The rest, I agree. :)
  26. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 23 September 2013 22: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: stpv1
    again want to denigrate the opposition

    Dear OPOSITIONER. The word "position" is written with two P. Well, that's not what I mean. Why blacken already black?
  27. 7ydmco
    7ydmco 24 September 2013 00: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Eugeniy_369
    But just why immediately after the Great Patriotic War they predicted a collapse,


    Who predicted?
  28. BLACKKKJACKKK
    BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 01: 37 New
    0
    Dear supporters of the current regime and opposition fighters, please answer why, under the honest, “sovereign democrat” Putin who favors Russia and his clique (Surkov (Dudaev), Sechin, Rotenberg and associates) Serdyukov lives in a two-story house under the protection of the FSO, and not in Magadan?
    Why do deputies teach us to "love the motherland," and in the houses themselves in Miami, accounts in Cyprus, and the children study in England and Switzerland?
    Why do we annually increase tariffs by 10-15% in natural monopolies owned by the president’s friends? What, on January 1, oil production costs suddenly increase? Or do Siberian rivers require additional payment for their flow?
    There are many such questions ...
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 24 September 2013 02: 13 New
      0
      Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
      Serdyukov lives in a two-story house under the protection of the FSO, and not in Magadan?

      Let's wait until the case is over. And then let's say.
      And the counter-question is why are many opposition members not in the same Magadan?
      Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
      Why do deputies teach us to "love the motherland," and in the houses themselves in Miami, accounts in Cyprus, and the children study in England and Switzerland?

      And who told you that such deputies are comrades?
      Although, a law would be passed on the prohibition ...
      And again the question is why ardent opponents, real estate and cars are no less. But that's where they work is not clear. And many even refused to answer this question?
      Why do we annually raise tariffs by 10-15% in natural monopolies owned by the president’s friends

      For industry, tariffs were frozen; for residents, a reduction coefficient was driven from inflation.
    2. I
      I HAVE T 24 September 2013 07: 07 New
      0
      Well, right by the training manual, you’re spoiling, well done, +10 shekels!
  29. BLACKKKJACKKK
    BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 02: 33 New
    0
    [quote = рус69] [quote = BLACKKKJACKKK] Serdyukov lives in a two-story house under the protection of the FSO, and not in Magadan? [/ quote]
    Let's wait until the case is over. And then let's say.
    And the counter-question is why are many opposition members not in the same Magadan?
    [quote = BLACKKKJACKKK]
    Well, yes, we’ll wait 15-20 years ... Until the statute of limitations ends ... In addition, he is still a witness ... People are already sitting behind tooth enamel chips ..
    Why is the opposition not sitting? Maybe not at all? If it were for what would have been planted ...
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 24 September 2013 02: 45 New
      0
      Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
      Why is the opposition not sitting? Maybe not at all? If it were for what would have been planted ...

      It's my pleasure...?smile
      Unlike the opposition, the majority have a desire to plant both of them. But for some reason the opniks are considered their thieves, they are considered "victims of the bloody regime" .... smile
      Well, wait 15-20 years ...

      Next year, the case is already over. Such things do not quickly get settled ...
  30. BLACKKKJACKKK
    BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 02: 40 New
    +1
    [quote = BLACKKKJACKKK] Why do the deputies teach us to "love the motherland", and in Miami’s own house we have accounts in Cyprus, and the children study in England and Switzerland? [/ quote]
    And who told you that such deputies are comrades?
    Although, a law would be passed on the prohibition ...
    And again the question is why ardent opponents, real estate and cars are no less. But that's where they work is not clear. And many even refused to answer this question?
    [Quote]
    Well, such deputies are supported by Putin, and therefore those who support him. And which opposition have real estate in Miami? Examples in the studio! Navalny lives in a simple treshka in Maryino.
  31. Russ69
    Russ69 24 September 2013 02: 41 New
    0
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Yes, 10 years later ... Of course it’s better late than never, but HE tightened something. Or again not allowed?

    Everything has its time...
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 24 September 2013 10: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Russ69
      Everything has its time...

      So I would like to catch it myself, and not hope that the great-grandchildren will see.
  32. BLACKKKJACKKK
    BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 02: 45 New
    +2
    [quote] Why do we annually increase tariffs by 10-15% in natural monopolies owned by the president’s friends [/ quote]
    For industry, tariffs were frozen, for residents they were driven down by inflation, from inflation. [/ Quote]
    From 2001 to the present day, which tariffs have been frozen, and which reduction factor have you introduced? Enlighten us, please? You began to pay less for an apartment?
  33. BLACKKKJACKKK
    BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 02: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Russ69
    Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
    Why is the opposition not sitting? Maybe not at all? If it were for what would have been planted ...

    It's my pleasure...?smile
    Unlike the opposition, the majority have a desire to plant both of them. But for some reason the opniks are considered their thieves, they are considered "victims of the bloody regime" .... smile

    You give examples, otherwise everything is unfounded ...
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 24 September 2013 02: 54 New
      0
      Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
      You give examples, otherwise everything is unfounded ...

      Writing about Navalny in the hundredth is not worth it, and so everyone knows.
      Nemtsov, at one time famously screwed up with loans in N. Novgorod, and even the sale of enterprises for pennies, to his American partners. Although, Che Nemtsov, perhaps everyone from the government of the beginning and the mid-90s can safely smear his forehead with green paint ...
  34. BLACKKKJACKKK
    BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 02: 51 New
    0
    Quote: Russ69
    Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
    Why is the opposition not sitting? Maybe not at all? If it were for what would have been planted ...

    It's my pleasure...?smile
    Unlike the opposition, the majority have a desire to plant both of them. But for some reason the opniks are considered their thieves, they are considered "victims of the bloody regime" .... smile
    Well, wait 15-20 years ...

    Next year, the case is already over. Such things do not quickly get settled ...

    Exactly, your business is being “concocted”, and we would like a legal investigation. Are you an "employee"?
  35. Russ69
    Russ69 24 September 2013 03: 01 New
    0
    Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
    Exactly, your business is being “concocted”, and we would like a legal investigation.

    I repeat, once again it is legal to investigate such cases, even for six months it will not work. Smaller and then stretch for 2 years. On the same Navalny a few years ago they tried to start a business, but Belykh was covering up.
    I don’t remember the name of the ex-governor, who was recently imprisoned for 10 years with a lawsuit of several million rubles and one episode, and then dragged for a year and a half. There are several episodes here, only expert examinations need to be done there.
  36. FIRE
    FIRE 24 September 2013 03: 04 New
    -2
    Industrial production is declining, small enterprises are closing down, the outflow of capital from the country is breaking records, money, there are no treasury bills to fulfill Putin’s election promises ...
    Therefore, since 2014, the country has introduced a “social norm” of electricity consumption, frozen salaries for state employees (including the military), pensions are indexed more than once / half a year, and once / a year, they plan to abolish "maternal capital" ...
    And this at an oil price> $ 100

    And what will happen when the oil runs out ???



    Z.Y. I’m sure that even then there will be “true patriots” who will scream that it’s Navalny who stole all the oil
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 24 September 2013 03: 16 New
      0
      Quote: FIRE
      Therefore, since 2014, the country has introduced the "social norm" of electricity consumption,

      It is still not known exactly what it will be.
      freeze salaries to state employees (including the military)

      Not yet decided, many are against.
      plan to abolish "maternal capital" ...

      There was only a proposal, as there was a proposal to extend to 35 years.
      And what will happen when the oil runs out ???

      Z.Y. I’m sure that even then there will be “true patriots” who will scream that it’s Navalny who stole all the oil

      And what will happen when the sun goes out? probably then Putin will be to blame ...
  37. BLACKKKJACKKK
    BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 03: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: Russ69
    Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
    You give examples, otherwise everything is unfounded ...

    Writing about Navalny in the hundredth is not worth it, and so everyone knows.

    Well, I see ... Are you talking about Kirovles? So on such charges, you can put the leadership of any store and its advertising agent! Years, in 100500 ...
  38. BLACKKKJACKKK
    BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 03: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: Russ69
    Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
    Exactly, your business is being “concocted”, and we would like a legal investigation.

    I repeat, once again it is legal to investigate such cases, even for six months it will not work. Smaller and then stretch for 2 years. On the same Navalny a few years ago they tried to start a business, but Belykh was covering up.
    I don’t remember the name of the ex-governor, who was recently imprisoned for 10 years with a lawsuit of several million rubles and one episode, and then dragged for a year and a half. There are several episodes here, only expert examinations need to be done there.

    Why, then, are the smaller ones sitting during the investigation, and the person who destroyed the country's defense capability lives on state housing? And he is not accused of high treason, but passes through the case as a witness?
  39. Russ69
    Russ69 24 September 2013 03: 11 New
    0
    Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
    Well, I see ... Are you talking about Kirovles?

    Yes, God bless him, Kirovles. There is a distillery, can you imagine how hamsters would squeal if, like a correspondence of Belykh-Navalny, was between any United Russia people? And you should not forget about the Italian company. Things are still not closed, but how much time has passed ...
  40. BLACKKKJACKKK
    BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 03: 16 New
    +1
    That RUS69 so what tariffs have frozen and introduced a reduction factor?
  41. Russ69
    Russ69 24 September 2013 03: 20 New
    0
    Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
    That RUS69 so what tariffs have frozen and introduced a reduction factor?

    They froze for production, including for small business. After all, we shout that they are jamming him constantly, well, they supported him ...
    For the population, there will be a coefficient of 0,75, to official inflation.
  42. BLACKKKJACKKK
    BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 03: 25 New
    0
    Quote: Russ69
    Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
    Well, I see ... Are you talking about Kirovles?

    Yes, God bless him, Kirovles. There is a distillery, can you imagine how hamsters would squeal if, like a correspondence of Belykh-Navalny, was between any United Russia people? And you should not forget about the Italian company. Things are still not closed, but how much time has passed ...

    About the Italian company in more detail ... and what matters about them? In addition to incomprehensible correspondence, hacked, or forged, there seems to be nothing.
    1. I
      I HAVE T 24 September 2013 07: 11 New
      0
      So well faked that even DKIM authentication passes, oh yes kremlezhuliki!
  43. BLACKKKJACKKK
    BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 03: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: Russ69
    Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
    That RUS69 so what tariffs have frozen and introduced a reduction factor?

    They froze for production, including for small business. After all, we shout that they are jamming him constantly, well, they supported him ...
    For the population, there will be a coefficient of 0,75, to official inflation.

    Do you have anything to do with small business? If so, they would not quote stupidity.
    By the way, why did you decide that the tariffs were frozen? Putin said?
  44. Russ69
    Russ69 24 September 2013 03: 32 New
    0
    Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
    About the Italian company in more detail ... and what matters about them? In addition to incomprehensible correspondence, hacked, or forged, there seems to be nothing.

    Googled Navalny’s correspondence with the Whites. Don't you really know ... That's what blind faith does ... smile
    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/txt.asp?id=282023

    Correspondence http://matveychev-oleg.livejournal.com/239450.html
    1. BLACKKKJACKKK
      BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 03: 44 New
      +1
      I don’t care, you’d still give a link to the first channel)))
      And as for the correspondence of Navalny with the Whites ... Do we have laws on private correspondence or not? To refer to a hacked resource is somehow indecent ...
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 24 September 2013 10: 22 New
        0
        Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
        I don’t care, you’d still give a link to the first channel)))
        And as for the correspondence of Navalny with the Whites ... Do we have laws on private correspondence or not? To refer to a hacked resource is somehow indecent ...
        If by
        the law cannot put both against the wall, this does not mean that I should consider them honest.
        After all, EP is called PIVIV, so present evidence. But I didn’t see something, so that someone would bother, the main thing is to push the slogan.
        Well, it’s understandable, when the power is nonsense - then God bless him ...
        How long?

        Well, yes ... The truth can only be spoken by the Lezhelesospirt Plant. laughing
        I don’t care, you’d still give a link to the first channel)))

        Their heap, what a stump a difference.
  45. BLACKKKJACKKK
    BLACKKKJACKKK 24 September 2013 03: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: Russ69
    Quote: BLACKKKJACKKK
    Well, I see ... Are you talking about Kirovles?

    Yes, God bless him, Kirovles. There is a distillery, can you imagine how hamsters would squeal if, like a correspondence of Belykh-Navalny, was between any United Russia people? And you should not forget about the Italian company. Things are still not closed, but how much time has passed ...

    Well, it’s understandable, when the power is nonsense - then God bless him ...
    How long?
  46. pensioner
    pensioner 24 September 2013 11: 20 New
    0
    Quote: IRBIS
    Although Sobchak is a bust, the Egyptians did not bury the horses.

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! +++++++++++++ good laughing hi
  47. intsurfer
    intsurfer 26 September 2013 09: 39 New
    0
    That’s because the light converged on Navalny ... When will Serdyukov and Vasilyeva finally be assigned the Heroes of Russia for the purchase of French equipment and discussion of the procurement of German tanks? Why do deputies and officials of the family + real estate + accounts in the mayam? Why do they prefer Mercedes and do not drive a Lada, our "patriots"?
  48. mehmeh
    mehmeh 7 December 2014 00: 34 New
    0
    Putin through the word elite sparkles ((
    Beria is not enough but not the shooter but the organizer. we need to organize a society and the Putin elite cannot do this; there is nothing in it from it in the engineer
    Here, Beria, in his youth, worked at Nobel’s company and learned how to do projects. I saw how it’s at least minus Putin in that he gives everything to his subordinates.