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People's Deputy of Ukraine

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Dear MP!


I appeal to you as a representative of the ruling party, directly responsible for what is happening in the country, the party itself, which, if you remember, has always put good-neighborly relations with fraternal Russia at the forefront of its campaign.

I am sure you know that this question is not an empty sound for your voters. They can now tell you, manipulating with numbers, about the broad support among the population of the idea of ​​unrealizable “European integration”. You may be told that now the supporters of the signing of an agreement on the phantom “association with the EU” are more than those who support the idea of ​​Ukraine joining the Customs Union with Russia. But ask the same Yevhen Kopatko, who recently conducted a solid study of Russian-Ukrainian relations: how do your voters directly relate to this choice - those who voted for the Party of Regions, for its representatives, for Yanukovych? And you will learn that the overwhelming majority of the Party of Regions ’basic, root electorate has advocated and is in favor of closer integration of Ukraine with Russia, and not with the European Union! They believed, they consider and they will consider Russia the closest ally, and not the enemy, no matter how many Ukrainian mass media, busting against Moscow, may work.

In this regard, ask yourself a question: where are you going to be elected for the next deputy term? What will your party and President Yanukovych come to with the election of the 2015 of the year? Do you really think that your voters will forgive you for the deterioration of relations with the Russian Federation? Recall that representatives of the Party of Regions have argued over the past few years! On all airs and round tables, at meetings with voters and in the press, you emphasized that “European integration” is possible only if fraternal and friendly relations with Russia are maintained. And nothing else! And now Moscow itself, through the mouths of top Russian leaders, insists: the agreement on “association” with the EU in the form that is literally imposed by Brussels, will drastically weaken Russian-Ukrainian relations, will eliminate the possibility of Ukraine’s participation in integration projects with CIS partners. Do any of you think that Putin is bluffing about this ?! Do you really not understand that, having crossed out the path to the Customs Union with this destructive agreement for Ukraine, do you lose your support among your base electorate?

Really, after the meeting of the PR faction with the president and after his words that the opponents of “European integration” “blamed themselves”, you did not understand that a project was launched on the actual discharge of both the party that you represent and President Yanukovych himself? Someone is actively working to ensure that by 2015, the current president has been deprived of support among his constituents, and the Party of Regions has lost all influence in his land - in the South-East of Ukraine. Perhaps, Yanukovych managed to instill the idea that by flirting with nationalist, anti-Russian, pro-Western currents he would gain points in the West of Ukraine, without losing much among his “God of the given” electorate. But you, I hope, understand that, no matter how much Yanukovych and your party flirted with the nationalists, you will not become “yours” for the West. The repetition of the project “Kuchma-1999” in the present conditions is impossible for a number of reasons. If only because for this purpose, it is necessary not to deduce the second place, as it is done now, but a person against whose background in the eyes of Galicia Yanukovych will seem to be a lesser evil. But you agree that before the 2015 year, this can not be done?

Why do you and your party lead to 2015 year? With its “pro-European” and, in fact, anti-Russian actions and statements, the authorities kill all confidence in the Party of Regions and Yanukovych in the South-East, completely demoralize and demobilize the basic electorate, not receiving anything in the West. You lose the support of the most active part of the population in your regions, those people who supported you in the most difficult moment. Yanukovych to the presidential election will remain virtually without any strong party!

Who benefits from this scenario? I have no doubt: those who influence Yanukovych more strongly than on the processes within the Party of Regions and the PR faction in parliament. Levochkin, Firtashi, Arbuzov, playing tricky combinations for retaining and strengthening their personal positions in power, eliminating objectionable politicians within the party and faction aimed at rapprochement with Russia (the case of Igor Markov is an illustration, you won’t make it clearer!) party that does not fit into these combinations. When a faction was told to face you at a meeting to “blame yourself” in the event of pro-Russian sentiment, is this not an indication that the line has been crossed, that the president has actually already been pushed into the path of rejection from the residents of those regions that made him president - a deputy, and from the party, the honorary leader of which he is?

I understand that after the exponential flogging arranged by Markov, many of you will decide once again not to risk, not to be substituted, not to stick out, and dutifully vote for the so-called. “European integration” laws, not only plundering the economy of Ukraine, but also crossing out the opportunity to change the situation for the better in the near future, burning bridges for cooperation between fraternal countries. Many will do it, so that later they will not “blame themselves”. But after all, at least some instinct of self-preservation must work! Think about what will happen to you, with your business, with the people who trusted you, in the event of the collapse of the project called “Party of Regions”! Collapse, inevitable in case of further deterioration of relations between Russia and Ukraine! Worsening, inevitable in the case of the signing and ratification of the agreement on the illusory "association with the EU", giving neither you nor the people of Ukraine absolutely anything but this deterioration!

Dear MP! I understand that your voice and your opinion over the past couple of years have been reduced to a minimum in the faction. I understand that the same Levochkin-Firtash-Arbuzov reduced the role of the Party of Regions itself in decision-making to a minimum. But ultimately, it is from you and your colleagues in the faction that the fate of the document called the “association agreement” will depend. The future of your faction, your party, and you personally depends on you and your pressing the button when ratifying this surrender of Ukraine! After that, “blame yourself” will not be told by President Yanukovych anymore, but by your own voters, for whom friendship with Russia is one of the key factors of choice. And I dare to assure you, this “blame yourself” already very soon will be for you and for Yanukovych himself much more painful than what you heard from his mouth.

Sincerely,

Vladimir KORNILOV, Director, Center for Eurasian Studies
Originator:
http://www.buzina.org/politics/1060-otkrytoe-pismo-partii-regionov.html
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  1. experienced
    experienced 20 September 2013 11: 04
    +2
    The site unfortunately more and more blows into politics request In my opinion, 3 articles about Ukraine-EU relations are overkill. IMHO hi
    1. Kars
      Kars 20 September 2013 11: 08
      +1
      Do you really think that your voters will forgive you for the deterioration of relations with the Russian Federation
      Of course, we’ll forgive, since this deterioration has been going on since the mid-2000s.
      The only thing that is not forgiven is the deterioration of the economic situation. And at Bankovaya (Yanukovych works there), they understand this very well. So they will be in favor of the Borotz economy, this is their ticket for a second term, and if the economy fails, and it will be difficult even for them to collapse administrative resources and falsifications in the elections will not help.
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 20 September 2013 11: 31
        +6
        As bandits, internal squabbles are transferred to political rails. Markov, bandit and reketir. The head of the gangs of the "Rodyna" association, not to be confused with the Motherland (Batkivshchyna), translated as "Family", did not share a piece of land in the prestigious area of ​​Odessa, which fagot Kivalov laid his eyes on and began raids, deciding that he had jumped into the Rada and jumped under the regionals , with parliamentary immunity, he caught the firebird. But Kivalov, close to Yanukovych, could not stand such impudence and, turning on his forces and connections, smeared Markov. He realized that in the regionals he had already settled ... and rushed to gain "popularity" among the masses, smearing the regionals in shit for refusing to follow the TS. So, do not confuse politics with b-vom.
        The fact that the regional party of crooks and bastards is the people of Ukraine know and understand. But it is not he who thinks. From a rural agitator to the Central Election Commission, covered and protected by 100 percent regional police, prosecutors and courts, regional counters will count “How much do you need?”, As they counted in Odessa for Markova.
        1. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru 20 September 2013 13: 55
          14
          hi
          The signing of the associated membership with the European Union is a frank merging of the interests of the Russian World, the Ukrainian People and Ukraine itself in front of the selfishly greedy momentary Family interests of a group of newly-minted Ukrainian gang-born oligarchs from the dashing 90's.
          "Vparivanie" in the brains of Ukrainian voters by the parliamentary corps of the Verkhovna Rada and the President - recidivist of the benefits of this Membership is a direct and brazen deception of the population of Ukraine.
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 20 September 2013 14: 20
            10
            Quote: Apologet.Ru
            hi
            The signing of the associated membership with the European Union is a frank merging of the interests of the Russian World, the Ukrainian People and Ukraine itself in front of the selfishly greedy momentary Family interests of a group of newly-minted Ukrainian gang-born oligarchs from the dashing 90's.
            "Vparivanie" in the brains of Ukrainian voters by the parliamentary corps of the Verkhovna Rada and the President - recidivist of the benefits of this Membership is a direct and brazen deception of the population of Ukraine.


            I would say the behavior of the Ukrainian elite is a betrayal of the Slavic people.
            1. nnz226
              nnz226 21 September 2013 10: 58
              +1
              It already happened: after B. Khmelnitsky, Vyhovsky came to the "hetman", spat with Russia, looked into the mouth of the West in the person of Poland (this European "forgiven" and now campaigns for intercourse with the EU), with the help of sworn friends of the Little Russian lands - the Crimean Tatars, defeated the Russian army near Konotop (the wretched little boy even tried to celebrate the anniversary of this battle, forgetting, downyoung, that the "broken army" of the Russians, the next year, fought well in full force). So what? Vyhovsky was executed by the same Poles. And "Ukraine" had a LONG PERIOD OF HISTORY UNDER THE NAME OF "RUINA" !!! Significant word !? And now something will be similar, if the signature in Vilnius, after all, is put by the new prizIdent of the Nezalezhnaya ... Here the way out of this new "Ruins" will be more dramatic.
          2. 222222
            222222 20 September 2013 20: 18
            +6
            I am surprised at the Ukrainian oligarchs trying to find salvation from Russia in Europe .. where their "hard-earned" capital "for a rainy day" is probably stored .. "Privatization" of Cypriot international deposits did not work on them .. The mouth of the "European crocodile" is open -Welcome !!!
        2. xan
          xan 20 September 2013 14: 03
          +3
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          He realized that in the regionals he had already settled ... and rushed to gain "popularity" among the masses, smearing the regionals in shit for refusing to follow the TS. So, do not confuse politics with b-vom.

          All the same, you need to support him. On bezryby and a bra belt.
          Further it will be seen what’s happening, maybe someone more serious is now daring, and this will help him. And you can always have time to merge.
          Maybe the Kremlin will figure something out.
          1. oaziss
            oaziss 20 September 2013 15: 28
            +1
            Quote: xan
            And you can always have time to merge. Maybe the Kremlin will figure something

            100% and this will happen soon.
        3. from Kiev
          from Kiev 20 September 2013 15: 44
          +8
          Markov is known for his consistent pro-Russian position long before the regionals entered Odessa. So your comment is past.
      2. revnagan
        revnagan 20 September 2013 12: 16
        13
        Quote: Kars
        And at Bankova (Yanukovych works there), they understand this very well. So they will be for the economy of Borotz

        With all my great respect to you, I will tell you that you are mistaken in this matter. Remember how and with what slogans ALL the present presidents came to power and why their people "rolled" at the next elections? I will not quote the slogans of Kuchma, Yushchenko, but immediately I will cite the slogan of the current prestige - "The destroyed life is the same this year." Was this? And the slogans of his predecessors carried the same semantic "load." But! None of the prizes could improve, really raise the welfare of ordinary people. For "breakthroughs" we constantly issued some kind of European-American and world signatures. Which REALLY GIVE ANYTHING TO THE SIMPLE UKRAINIAN. The people are shouting - "the economy, income growth, stable wages, work!" Candidates before the elections - "Yes, I heard everyone, I promise, that's it. will be! ". But after the elections, again, politics, language, associations, reforms, conventions
        1. Kars
          Kars 20 September 2013 12: 31
          +1
          Quote: revnagan
          .Recall how and with what slogans ALL the outgoing presidents came to power and why their people "rolled" in the next elections

          I remember what? Not a single president introduced slogans about joining Russia or becoming vassals. Good neighborly relations or deepening economic integration - oh my God, who is against Russia except that? And this is what the population understands. The Russian Federation is trying to fake for itself. And in fact, it is NAME of the Russian Federation that it is beneficial to worsen the economic situation in Ukraine. For example, the European Union is not profitable, as it will push Ukraine into the .. hugs of the Russian Federation. Well, or they don’t care, but they don’t specially benefit.
          Quote: revnagan
          None of the prezes was able to improve, really raise the welfare of ordinary people.

          And who will be able to do this? The Russian Federation wants to put us in the neck, and besides the Chechens? I personally do not believe in it.
          Quote: revnagan
          Why do you think Yanyk is in such a hurry to sign an association with the EU? Why, in addition to it, he will have nothing to trump at the next election.

          And he wouldn’t be able to trump this if the economy worsens from this. If the economy really improved from joining the CU, then Ukraine would strive there rather than drag it on.
          Quote: revnagan
          the standard of living in Ukraine is already much lower than Russia, I see this in my city.

          so what? What does this prove? You have your own economy, we have our own. In the EU, the standard of living is also higher than in Ukraine.
          Quote: revnagan
          Most, and overwhelming, of those who voted for Yanyk, feel cheated

          I voted for him, and I don’t feel particularly deceived - I did not expect anything special, and recognition of Russian as a regional language is enough for me.
          Quote: revnagan
          Well, they will fight for the economy, so it’s for their income. With their billions, it would be possible now to improve the lives of ordinary people, only this is not there

          Well, if you start to reason logically - that their business and income are our jobs, if their factories - then we work there, etc. If they have sales markets, then NAS will not work. If their enterprises suffer from high gas prices, then wages of ordinary workers suffer.
          As for their billions, I don’t see any special philanthropists among the milioners. In your country, the type of profit from the NEDR of the earth (which by the way is in the public domain) is honestly shared.
          Quote: revnagan
          .Because Yanyk and the company fly by on potholes, like plywood over Paris. It is only a pity that his mercenary will just as much rest on politics, forgetting about the economy and incomes of ordinary citizens.

          I don’t understand why you separate the economy and politics? what should YOUR receiver do for the economy and incomes of ordinary citizens? are you sure that such an even stronger EU should not lomits?
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 20 September 2013 15: 42
            +5
            Quote: Kars
            And who will be able to do this? The Russian Federation wants to put us in the neck, and besides the Chechens? I personally do not believe in it.

            I’m talking about Thomas, and you’s talking about Erema ... And what does the Russian Federation have to do with it. Yes, I don’t raise the issue of annexation or non-alignment. The question is that all the presidents of Ukraine presented their political tricks as victories dedicated to the people. But the people are not wants spectacles. He wants bread. And the authorities say with stupid stubbornness "what are you, people, look, the statistics say how well you began to live with ...... (insert the necessary). Here we will also sign the association, you will live, people ! "But there is no real improvement in life. That is, all the candidates, upon taking office, could not fulfill their promises, whose fault it was not MMM. They all lied. And they continue to assure that after signing the next piece of paper I will live better. But in reality, I see that many pieces of paper were signed over the years, about which fanfare was loudly droning, but for some reason the salary at my plant is still 1500 UAH, not 1000 euros. And the plant will be closed altogether when we integrate into the EU (equipment works that were taken out of Germany on reparations) .The standard of living of ordinary citizens en authorities sneeze, ordinary people are convinced of this, and the association with the EU is a bunch for them.
            1. Kars
              Kars 20 September 2013 15: 46
              +1
              Then I do not understand the point of why you wrote something.
              Quote: revnagan
              That is, all candidates upon taking office were not able to fulfill their promises, whose fault it was not me MMM. They all lied

              What do you propose in this case? Specifically.
          2. revnagan
            revnagan 20 September 2013 15: 49
            +6
            Quote: Kars
            so what? What does this prove? You have your own economy, we have our own.

            I wonder how can there be two different economies in one state? Or do we live in different Ukraine? So I live in Shostka, Sumy region. Well, "Svema", remember? There is no more "Svema", as well as 2 more large factories and a dozen small ones. And none of the papers signed by the Ukrainian presses does not revive these factories and jobs at them. Although Yusch promised to create 10 million new jobs in Ukraine and the current president also promised there.
            1. Kars
              Kars 20 September 2013 15: 59
              +1
              Quote: revnagan
              I wonder how it can be in two states two different economies?

              Well, I don’t know that you are from Ukraine, not the Russian Federation. It is necessary to make a footnote under the flag of the USSR.
              Quote: revnagan
              Well, "Svema", remember?

              Where did the cameras and film do? And Kodak is no more.
              Quote: revnagan
              And not one of the pieces of paper signed by the Ukrainian prezes resurrects these plants and their jobs.

              you can’t know exactly how, and if necessary, in these factories, whether they were cost-effective, or whether their products were in demand.
              And even more so, I will return to the topic of the article where there are guarantees that entry into the TS will revive them.
              Quote: revnagan
              Although Yusch promised to create 10 of millions of new jobs in Ukraine, the current president also promised there.

              And what can you become deputies or president without promising anything? And who has fulfilled ALL of his promises? At least 50%?
              1. revnagan
                revnagan 20 September 2013 17: 42
                +4
                Quote: Kars
                .Nado under the flag of the USSR to make a footnote.

                Can I click on a profile?
                Quote: Kars
                Where did the cameras and film do? And Kodak is no more.

                Yes, I like kodak on a drum. Moreover, that optical discs could be done. As "Kodak". No, just for the grandmother of an old woman in Europe, our leadership is destroying our enterprises.
                Quote: Kars
                you cannot know for sure

                Well, yes, I’ve been living here for so many years, and I don’t know for sure whether any of the signed presidential papers affected the restoration of city-forming enterprises.
                Quote: Kars
                And what can you become deputies or president without promising anything? And who has fulfilled ALL of his promises? At least 50%?

                Why the hell then promise? After all, people are not fools, they understood that if they wanted to, but with such a resource they could. There were industrial regions behind them, and not a pathetic subsidized Bandera. No, I didn't want to. A typical "kidok". will vote.
                1. Kars
                  Kars 20 September 2013 18: 27
                  +2
                  Quote: revnagan
                  Can I click on a profile?
                  click on the profile,
                  then click-view profile, then click back to write the answer.
                  Quote: revnagan
                  Yes, I have a kodak like a drum

                  Why are you like this, these are global trends, or for fun to drive products to the warehouse?
                  Quote: revnagan
                  Moreover, optical disks could be made.

                  And will they be cheaper than Chinese (well, that’s how I am, the topic is unfamiliar)? How many years will this reorganization, the purchase of technology and equipment, pay off?
                  Quote: revnagan
                  ". No, just for the grandmother of an old woman in Europe, our leadership destroys our enterprises.

                  How old did Europe pay for the collapse of Svema? Why was she doing this? Was she afraid of competition?
                  And enterprises are destroyed mostly without such complex structures, and this happens EVERYWHERE, even in Europe and the USA, this is the MARKET.
                  Quote: revnagan
                  Well, yes, I’ve been living here for so many years, and I don’t know for sure whether any of the signed presidential papers affected the restoration of city-forming enterprises.

                  And he signed something specifically for your enterprises? Specific? Or in general? And for example, with all his desire, no decree would return, for example, the demand for film cameras and supplies for them, but what kind of enterprise you have there I still don’t know about.
                  Quote: revnagan
                  What the hell then promise?
                  You personally never promised something that you couldn’t do? Didn’t give the girl a moon from the sky? I won’t even start about marriage.
                  Quote: revnagan
                  ? After all, people weren’t fools, they understood that if they wanted, they could with such a resource
                  Well, people are often very naive in nature, and they like to believe. But it will not be able to this difficult question.
                  Quote: revnagan
                  Behind it stood industrial regions,

                  and what? of economics, it will still remain an economy. And I personally BELIEVE - that if he could have done it, he would have made everybody a salary of 5 thousand euros, so he would secure a lifetime presidency. And not out of spite of his soul, he does not.
                  Quote: revnagan
                  Very powerful will no longer vote for him.

                  And for whom? Klitschko? Tyagnibok? Yatsenyuk?
            2. Yon_Silent
              Yon_Silent 20 September 2013 19: 37
              +1
              I recall that in Shostka there was a military factory for the manufacture of artillery gunpowder and solid rocket fuel. Is he still working or has he ordered a long life?
              1. Kars
                Kars 20 September 2013 20: 58
                +2
                Quote: Jon_ Quiet
                still working or ordered to live long?

                It works. And even with a small profit.
          3. Setrac
            Setrac 20 September 2013 21: 13
            0
            Quote: Kars
            And who will be able to do this? The Russian Federation wants to put us in the neck, and besides the Chechens? I personally do not believe in it.

            There are laws of macroeconomics, learn materiel.
            Quote: Kars
            And he wouldn’t be able to trump this if the economy worsens from this. If the economy really improved from joining the CU, then Ukraine would strive there rather than drag it on.

            For green bucks sold, excuses here sculpt.
            1. Kars
              Kars 20 September 2013 21: 47
              +1
              Quote: Setrac
              There are laws of macroeconomics, learn materiel.

              Do you believe in wizards?)))
              Quote: Setrac
              For green bucks sold, excuses here sculpt.

              Euro is also good. Pounds.
      3. Val_y
        Val_y 20 September 2013 13: 24
        +9
        What kind of economy .. my own, and ???? Repairman in the intermountain (where Yanyk lives) or new armored geldings with helicopters, and ??? Or they don’t know that 90% of the economy is directed to the CIS republics and that these 90% of the enterprises will close themselves or they will be killed by the Europeans.
        1. artem772
          artem772 20 September 2013 13: 41
          -2
          Only 25% of Ukrainian exports were sent to the Russian Federation in the first half of 2013. To Europe - about 30%.
          1. Gecko
            Gecko 20 September 2013 13: 47
            +2
            Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia, how many percent more?
          2. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 20 September 2013 14: 23
            +7
            Quote: artem772
            Only 25% of Ukrainian exports were sent to the Russian Federation in the first half of 2013. To Europe - about 30%.


            Are economic interests above spiritual, vital ties between fraternal peoples? Then what, you will fight with NATO against Russia ?! Artem, think what you put in the forefront.
            1. Kars
              Kars 20 September 2013 15: 36
              +2
              I don’t know what's with spiritual connections.

              but for example, the Swedish analogue of Glogiev))))

              The head of the Swedish Foreign Ministry, Karl Bildt, who arrived at the 10th Yalta Summit of YES, spoke about the benefits that Ukraine will receive from joining the EU.

              As it became known, Bildt noted that the path to Europe seems longer than the path to the east, however, according to him, it is more advantageous, for example, from the economic side.

              The Swedish Foreign Minister also said that joining the Common Economic Space of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan to the Customs Union will lead to a 40% drop in GDP in Ukraine, and the Free Trade Area with the EU will leave the country in positive territory: + 12%


              And who's lying here? Who can prove it with reason?
              1. Ruslan_F38
                Ruslan_F38 20 September 2013 16: 42
                +9
                Quote: Kars
                The Swedish Foreign Minister also said that joining the Common Economic Space of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan to the Customs Union will lead to a 40% drop in GDP in Ukraine, and the Free Trade Area with the EU will leave the country in positive territory: + 12%


                Swede of course, who is he? How many already the United States and the European Union have raped, and all of you there on the same rake. How do the young Europeans live? Look, they all started with free trade zones with the EU - what other arguments are needed?
                Benefit from joining the vehicle. According to most Russian and many Ukrainian experts, the entry of the former
                the Soviet republic in the new international organization will be objectively profitable
                for her:
                1. lower energy prices. By joining the Customs Union, Ukraine will be able to pay significantly less
                not only for the gas and oil necessary for it, but also for other products. Similar
                savings due to the fact that the price will not include customs duty;

                2. removal of quotas. The same goes for
                Ukrainian exports (engineering products, metal, pipes, components,
                agricultural and light industry products). Regarding him not
                no quotas will apply;

                3 positive balance of the budget balance. Over five years, the positive effect should be about $ 5 billion;

                4 benefits of geographical location. Due to its advantageous geographical position, Ukraine will be able to have
                significant benefit as a transit country through which
                to send goods from the countries belonging to the Customs Union to the powers
                The European Union;

                7. development of production infrastructure. Ukraine’s participation in the Customs Union with Russia, Belarus and
                Kazakhstan will facilitate the deployment of various
                production, “tied” into a single production cycle with these enterprises
                countries. In addition, numerous Western corporations will be able to open in
                Ukraine enterprises for the production and assembly of imported goods that will
                Intended for all countries participating in the CU.

                Ukraine will not need to learn from its mistakes. She may well
                analyze the experience gained by Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan and avoid
                numerous difficulties.
                1. Kars
                  Kars 20 September 2013 18: 34
                  +4
                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  Swede of course, who is he?

                  Yes, nothing differs from Glazyev for me.
                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  1. lower energy prices.

                  as a discount in a boutique, first they will raise the price of 50%, then they will throw off minus 20 and a discount)))
                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  2. removal of quotas

                  Yes, of course, they’ll take it off right away.
                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  3 Positive Balance Balance

                  And who will provide this?
                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  geographic benefits. Due to its advantageous geographical position, Ukraine will be able to have
                  significant benefit as a transit country through which
                  to send goods from the countries belonging to the Customs Union to the powers
                  The European Union;

                  We now have the same geographical position. And what else is the European Union? Etozh will be a hostile community, how to trade gay people, and also transit-birrr, already mercilessly with a geyropa))
                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  m will facilitate the placement on its territory of various
                  production, “tied” into a single production cycle with these enterprises
                  countries.

                  and where did he get it from? And something is poorly believed, especially against the background of Belarusian mechanical engineering.
                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  In addition, numerous Western corporations will be able to open in
                  Ukraine enterprises for the production and assembly of imported goods that will
                  target all countries participating in the CU

                  Brrr, again the Geyropean abomination.
                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  She may well
                  analyze the experience gained by Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan and avoid
                  numerous difficulties.
                  Well, yes, yes, yes, there will be no particular sense in errors, since the rules can change at any time.
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 20 September 2013 21: 37
                    +2
                    Quote: Kars
                    Well, yes, yes, yes, there will be no particular sense in errors, since the rules can change at any time.

                    The meaning of all your excuses can be described in two words - Baba Yaga against.
                    1. Kars
                      Kars 20 September 2013 21: 45
                      +1
                      Quote: Setrac
                      The meaning of all your excuses can be described in two words - Baba Yaga against.

                      what’s there to say - something in the TS Ukraine does not break, even though it is forced (which in itself is alarming), it means not only I can find the excuse offhand.
                      1. Setrac
                        Setrac 20 September 2013 22: 11
                        +1
                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, yes, yes, yes, there will not be much sense in taking into account errors.

                        Do you think this is smart? Well of course you need to step on the rake yourself.
                      2. Kars
                        Kars 20 September 2013 22: 38
                        +2
                        Quote: Setrac
                        Do you think this is smart? Well of course you need to step on the rake yourself.

                        Do you think it is smart to take a phrase out of context that affects reading?)))
                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, yes, yes, yes, there will be no particular sense in errors, since the rules can change at any time.

                        They’re rake-the RF is not a reliable partner who doesn’t behave too nicely. It’s hard to deal with today. There’s no gasoline today, there’s tomorrow. And all with a blue eye)))
                      3. Setrac
                        Setrac 20 September 2013 22: 45
                        0
                        Quote: Kars
                        Do you think it is smart to take a phrase out of context that affects reading?)))

                        The enemy must be beaten with his own weapon soldier
                        Quote: Kars
                        They are such a rake-the Russian Federation is not a reliable partner who does not behave too nicely.

                        You are just a Russophobe, everything Russian is bad for you, "and they eat Russian bacon" - this is about you.
                      4. Kars
                        Kars 20 September 2013 22: 57
                        +1
                        Quote: Setrac
                        The enemy must be beaten with his own weapon

                        Well, if so, then maybe you’ll show a phrase that I took out of context and interpreted differently. And next you’ll bring the original - how did I catch you? Or pain?
                        Quote: Setrac
                        You are just a Russophobe, everything Russian is bad for you, "and they eat Russian bacon" - this is about you.

                        Or maybe you are just a Ukrainophobe? And I eat local fat, and if I honestly don’t like it especially. From the latter, I bought chicken liver from Brazil, just for fun.
                        And if it goes like this, maybe I’ll start to deny such a nationality - Russian, as the Ukrainian here like to deny nationality.
                      5. Setrac
                        Setrac 20 September 2013 23: 26
                        +1
                        Quote: Kars
                        And if it goes like this, maybe I’ll start to deny such a nationality - Russian, as the Ukrainian here like to deny nationality.

                        Why deny it? It was not so appear, all nations once appeared.
                      6. Kars
                        Kars 20 September 2013 23: 31
                        +1
                        Quote: Setrac

                        This means the question of ... the same weapon .. is falling away? You can’t show my twitches?

                        Quote: Setrac
                        Why deny it?

                        Well, this is not a question for me.
                    2. Che
                      Che 21 September 2013 10: 52
                      +2
                      There is no such nationality Ukrainian sucked from one place. We are one people - that’s it.
                    3. Kars
                      Kars 21 September 2013 12: 02
                      +1
                      Quote: Che
                      We are one people - that’s it.

                      Relatives in the xnumth knee may be
  2. washi
    washi 20 September 2013 16: 48
    +6
    Quote: Kars
    I don’t know what's with spiritual connections.

    but for example, the Swedish analogue of Glogiev))))

    The head of the Swedish Foreign Ministry, Karl Bildt, who arrived at the 10th Yalta Summit of YES, spoke about the benefits that Ukraine will receive from joining the EU.

    As it became known, Bildt noted that the path to Europe seems longer than the path to the east, however, according to him, it is more advantageous, for example, from the economic side.

    The Swedish Foreign Minister also said that joining the Common Economic Space of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan to the Customs Union will lead to a 40% drop in GDP in Ukraine, and the Free Trade Area with the EU will leave the country in positive territory: + 12%


    And who's lying here? Who can prove it with reason?

    You will listen to each bastard - you will not eat anything
    You are already big. Your "state" is ALREADY 22 years old. This is, according to the laws of the Ukrainian SSR and the Central Asian SSR, the time of marriage (from 17 years old).
    Kalym will be paid to your management (more precisely, their finances will not be taken). Well, the daughter’s problems do not bother anyone except her ex-fiancé (Rus).
    Imagine that people are not countries.
    How do you feel about your bride, who, with her tacit consent, was given to marry and, of course, was raped by anyone.
    1. Kars
      Kars 20 September 2013 18: 35
      +1
      Quote: Vasya
      You will listen to each bastard - you will not eat anything

      In, in, I’m talking about different eyeballs and so on.
  • washi
    washi 20 September 2013 16: 34
    +1
    Quote: artem772
    Only 25% of Ukrainian exports were sent to the Russian Federation in the first half of 2013. To Europe - about 30%.

    what a blessing. the smaller the healthier we are
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 20 September 2013 13: 46
    +9
    In my opinion, in Ukraine, everyone will forgive everyone and will not even notice. Because no one cares about anyone or anything. They will calmly go to work as they do now. Only zapadentsy will proudly walk around Kiev and explain how to spell "in Ukraine".
  • washi
    washi 20 September 2013 16: 29
    +4
    The last deputies shot EBN in 1993.
    There were no people's deputies in the national republics. There were nat and economy deputies. They grabbed their own.
    Where is the Council of People's Deputies? AU
    The latter was with IVS, it seems. The rest is fiction.
    Where are the trade unions, which under Garny Gorbachev began to sell workers ’property.
    Where KP are the fighters for equality, now humiliating their workers at their enterprises.
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  • anton 42
    anton 42 20 September 2013 18: 43
    +1
    And now it’s easy ??? this summer I met quite a few Ukrainian guest workers from Chernivtsi, Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopol, etc. Age, everything is younger and younger, and this probably says something. Is not it.
  • rolik
    rolik 21 September 2013 00: 13
    0
    Quote: Kars
    so that they will be for the Borotz economy,

    The remains of the economy))))) And while they are, in this struggle, lose.
  • Che
    Che 21 September 2013 10: 47
    +2
    Kars.
    Here is an excerpt from L. Niederle's work "Slavic Antiquities".
    Ukraine requires recognition of its language and its people as equally valuable and equal with the language and people of Great Russia. However, this differentiation, fueled mainly by political factors, has not yet gone so far as to refute the actual unity of the Russian people, which, unlike other Slavic peoples, always reliably connects its individual branches. Until today, as a rule, A. Meye notes, a remarkable connoisseur of comparative Slavic linguistics, as a rule, the differences in the Russian language of these three branches are less significant than the differences in German or French dialects, and Belaya Rus, Ukraine and Great Russia, even if each of them gains political independence, will remain branches of one people ...

    Everything else is the notion of our enemies and just crap that does not deserve neither time nor attention.
    1. Kars
      Kars 21 September 2013 12: 03
      +1
      Quote: Che
      Great Russia.

      What is this? Homeland of elephants?
      1. Che
        Che 21 September 2013 15: 30
        +1
        You are probably not a Slav. Read smart people on this topic, but not nationalists.
        1. Kars
          Kars 21 September 2013 15: 34
          +1
          Quote: Che
          You are probably not a Slav

          In general, I comb myself to the Ukrainians
          Quote: Che
          Read smart people on this topic, but not nationalists.

          Why? And it turns out you are not a nationalist? How strange is it - the Slovens are not a nation?
          1. Che
            Che 21 September 2013 15: 38
            0
            The Slavs are an ethnos, like the Turks, and the Semites, however.
            1. Kars
              Kars 21 September 2013 16: 04
              +1
              Quote: Che
              Slavs are an ethnos

              Are you an ethnonist?
              Quote: Setrac
              It’s just not entirely clear where such an illiterate person as you made a mistake in the word

              try to.
          2. Setrac
            Setrac 21 September 2013 15: 44
            0
            Quote: Kars
            Why? And it turns out you are not a nationalist? How strange is it - the Slovens are not a nation?

            It’s just not entirely clear where such an illiterate person as you made a mistake in the word
            Quote: Kars
            slovenians

            Slavs? Or maybe the Slovenes, or Slovaks, Slovoins as an option I will not offer.
  • GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 20 September 2013 11: 15
    17
    Quote: seasoned
    In my opinion, 3 articles about Ukraine-EU relations are overkill. IMHO hi


    That's it! It would be better to write at least once about another Slavic state:


    Serbia may join the Customs Union and the CSTO


    A number of Serbian parties declared the need to abandon the course of integration with the European Union. At the same time, they demanded that the country's leadership should go for closer integration with Russia and the Customs Union. This was announced by representatives of Serbian parties at the congress of Russian-Serbian friendship, which was held in Serbia. Moreover, what specific party representatives were not mentioned in the press release.

    More:
    http://telegrafist.org/2013/09/18/87603/
    1. MG42
      MG42 20 September 2013 17: 06
      +1
      Quote: GreatRussia

      That's it! It would be better to write at least once about another Slavic state:
      Serbia may join the Customs Union and the CSTO

      Serbia has no common borders with Russia and the CU, like Syria, while it will enter after the Baltic states, Georgia and Moldova will sign an association agreement with the EU in 2014, this is how it will be "exchange" .. winked
  • zmey_gadukin
    zmey_gadukin 20 September 2013 17: 15
    +6
    Quote: seasoned
    In my opinion, 3 articles about Ukraine-EU relations are overkill.

    today there are already 5 articles about Ukraine ...
    and this is really strange.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 20 September 2013 21: 40
      +2
      Quote: zmey_gadukin
      today there are already 5 articles about Ukraine ...
      and this is really strange.

      Prepare public opinion for serious events.
  • Garrin
    Garrin 20 September 2013 18: 46
    +4
    Quote: seasoned
    In my opinion, 3 articles about Ukraine-EU relations are overkill. IMHO

    Articles about the situation in Syria do not bother you? So, the events taking place now in Ukraine are no less significant for Russia than what is happening in Syria. Hence, so many articles. hi
  • starshina78
    starshina78 20 September 2013 19: 48
    +7
    And I think it's not overkill! And more, it is necessary to write even more about Russia and Ukraine. How can you divide us? In Ukraine and Russia, probably almost every twentieth family has relatives living on both sides of the border. Isn't that enough? As Russia cannot live without Ukraine, so Ukraine cannot live without Russia. It's like two sisters. separate them, and the longing of separated sisters will begin. We are so connected that to break the link with one stroke of the pen is like a terrorist act. Many factories in Russia work in close integration with factories in Ukraine, and the signing of an agreement with the EU entails breaking these ties. Who will benefit from this? To the European Union! But not to us. Yanukovych will sign the agreement - that's for sure, but maybe time will pass, the politicians will change, and everything will return to "normal".
  • svp67
    svp67 20 September 2013 11: 09
    +3
    And in how many copies is this appeal propagated? Have you already transferred to Ukraine?
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 20 September 2013 11: 35
      +5
      Red for
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 20 September 2013 11: 20
    +4
    Your own voters, for whom friendship with Russia is one of the key factors of choice. ,
    Let's hope that the Ukrainian authorities come to their senses .. And they won’t push their people into the abyss of degradation and disintegration of the spiritual and territorial multi-color geyevropa ...
    1. eplewke
      eplewke 20 September 2013 15: 07
      +2
      The Association of Ukraine and the EU will go down in history as "Ukrainian rake" or a log floating against the tide ...
  • major071
    major071 20 September 2013 11: 22
    15
    Perhaps Yanukovych managed to instill the idea that by flirting with nationalist, anti-Russian, pro-Western trends, he would gain points in the West of Ukraine without losing much of his electorate, “God given”.
    Yes, he will earn a point and bunks from his own associates. following the example of Tymoshenko.
    1. Stamp
      Stamp 21 September 2013 15: 08
      +3
      Quote: major071
      Yes, he will earn a point and bunks from his own associates. following the example of Tymoshenko

      So he doesn’t get used to it, he has already shook his term twice.
  • Airman
    Airman 20 September 2013 11: 26
    +4
    That in Ukraine, that in Russia everything is decided by those in power, therefore it is very difficult to put the issue to a referendum. Therefore, the people became a "swamp", and until the roasted rooster pecked, it (the people) will not move. In Russia, since 2014, they decided to freeze the tariffs of the monopolists, but then they decided to freeze only for the oligarchs, and raise the tariffs for the population, but what about the people? - the people are silent!
    1. Ustas
      Ustas 20 September 2013 13: 34
      +2
      Quote: Povshnik
      but then they decided to freeze only for the oligarchs, and increase the tariffs for the population,

      From where infa?
      1. Airman
        Airman 20 September 2013 20: 07
        0
        Quote: Ustas
        Quote: Povshnik
        but then they decided to freeze only for the oligarchs, and increase the tariffs for the population,

        From where infa?

        Listen and watch the news on the mailbox.
    2. yur
      yur 20 September 2013 23: 03
      0
      For the population, tariffs will also decrease strongly. They will be calculated at the rate of 0,7 percent of inflation (4-5%, and not 10-15% as it is now).
  • Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 20 September 2013 11: 39
    10
    Appetite comes with eating
  • Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 20 September 2013 11: 40
    18
    Family coat of arms.
    1. washi
      washi 20 September 2013 16: 55
      +2
      Why are you mocking the temporary emblem of the northern Slavs (the attacking falcon) (including the Rurikovich).
      The fact that the newly formed territorial entity appropriated the Polish anthem and the Russian symbol does not allow you to mock the symbols of the states that have taken place.
  • erased
    erased 20 September 2013 11: 43
    -6
    Well, to hell with this news here?
  • knn54
    knn54 20 September 2013 11: 55
    15
    The situation is the same as in Batista in Cuba: the mafia ONLY built resorts and entertainment venues, laundered money, robbed and humiliated ordinary people. I think there’s FIDE
    1. Ustas
      Ustas 20 September 2013 13: 36
      +4
      Quote: knn54
      I think there will be “your own” Fidel SOON ...

      God bless your words!
  • vektor77
    vektor77 20 September 2013 12: 15
    0
    When the director of the Center for Eurasian Studies in the first sentences makes a spelling mistake for the student, then I no longer read, for either delirium or linden.
  • individual
    individual 20 September 2013 12: 43
    10
    Ukraine enters the waiting room of the European Union, where Ukrainians are assigned the role of a servant - to submit slippers to the owners of their saunas.
  • IGS
    IGS 20 September 2013 12: 59
    +6
    Regrettably, but Ukraine has already made its choice, and, alas, it is not in Russia's favor. And it is not necessary to say that this is a choice only of those in power, this choice is supported by a significant part of the population. It's a shame, but everyone has their own way ... Ukraine is again stepping on the same rake, time will pass, Ukraine will turn to Russia again, we will accept it ... but, I'm afraid, Ukraine's betrayal will divide us for a long time. And it is unlikely that we will accept it back in the same role as in the USSR, or even now. Now Ukraine is like a cheap political prospect .. costs, is sold and traded. Why "cheap"? Because he cannot take it and not sell to anyone, he will die of hunger. Why simple ... huh? Who? If their beloved EU partners are seriously discussing whether Ukraine is an independent state (or just a state) ... You know, the truth is, this Ukraine got it, let it go wherever it pleases, otherwise there are a bunch of articles about it. Ukraine has made its choice. It is necessary to talk about her and her fate not with her, but with the EU and those who are building biological laboratories on its territory (so far on its territory).
    1. shark
      shark 20 September 2013 13: 35
      +4
      I agree. Let it roll where its small bunch of zapadentsev rolls. Only territorial issues need to be addressed
      1. morpex
        morpex 20 September 2013 13: 58
        +2
        Quote: shark
        Let it roll where its little bunch of zapadentsev rolls

        Yes, you STRATEG !!! In recent years, 20 have been fouling everything that has been acquired since the tsarist times. And the army and military bases and territories. Now we’ll merge Ukraine into the toilet in Europe. Then. what? The territory of Russia along the Garden Ring? And what territorial claims are you talking about? Russia was the first in its time to GUARANTEE the territorial integrity of Ukraine. And this is an international treaty, whatever one may say.
      2. T-130
        T-130 20 September 2013 15: 34
        +3
        So among the zapadentsev there are Rusyns, as I understand it, they are also not enthusiastic about what is happening!
      3. washi
        washi 20 September 2013 16: 57
        +1
        Quote: shark
        I agree. Let it roll where its small bunch of zapadentsev rolls. Only territorial issues need to be addressed

        Where will she go?
        Will return we will talk. How to pay her debts. Due to what territory.
    2. Genur
      Genur 20 September 2013 13: 49
      +3
      He is not a crest who does not deceive himself.
    3. smirnov
      smirnov 20 September 2013 14: 18
      +2
      Please do not confuse the concept of "Ukraine and its vlast" and "Ukraine and its population, narod", these are different things, I assure you ... In order to declare that the choice has been made can first hold a referendum, and only then talk about betrayal?
      1. IGS
        IGS 20 September 2013 16: 22
        +6
        Alas, Ukrainians themselves are not very eager for Russia, many are so brainwashed that they think, having separated from us, get away from our corruption and thieves. That joining the EU and its principles will enable these thieves to win in their own future. But they do not understand that this accession will plunder and plunder Ukraine without thieves, on legal grounds, with a European smile and care for a person. They are thieves "outside the law", "de jure" for sure, and they began to plant them little by little. But what will happen to Ukraine will be within the framework of the law, in the name of “democratic and European values.” “European,” mind you, not “Ukrainian” ones. Ukraine is not considered a European country in the EU, just like Russia, however ... Ukrainians should look at the fate of Greece (an EU member) and its ordinary people. Was the Ukrainian SSR, Ukraine ... will ... but will there be?
  • shurup
    shurup 20 September 2013 13: 03
    +2
    If voters do not have the right to recall a deputy, he will not listen to them.
    If I do not know the source of funding for the center, then I will not listen to its director.
    For the rest, I agree with Experienced - do not clog the site.
  • Jarilo
    Jarilo 20 September 2013 13: 10
    +4
    Why is not a referendum held on this crucial, by the way, not only for Ukraine issue. The decision is made behind the scenes, because of which I foresee the problems: God forbid they stumble at least a little.
  • shtanko.49
    shtanko.49 20 September 2013 13: 10
    +7
    The entire political elite resembles pigs at the trough.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 20 September 2013 13: 11
    +4
    Quote: individ
    Ukraine enters the waiting room of the European Union, where Ukrainians are assigned the role of a servant - to submit slippers to the owners of their saunas.

    If ... When slippers are served, it’s necessary to bend down .. and in geyeurope it’s still necessary to perform additional services .. (politicians don’t mind, but people will start raping ..)
  • vadimuch
    vadimuch 20 September 2013 13: 48
    +4
    Does anyone seriously suggest that Ukraine, Serbia, Bulgaria, etc. Europe needs the Slavs somehow differently than the restriction of Russia? The problem is only one, that it is national betrayal from the point of view of Slavic interests and nightmarish national betrayal from the point of view of state interests. Teasing a bear for thirty pieces of silver will not work for a long time, and there is no resource. And then what? Mom please forgive me? The anti-Russian run is about fifteen years maximum, and beyond.
  • bubla5
    bubla5 20 September 2013 14: 21
    -2
    Yes, to hell with him with Ukraine
    1. washi
      washi 20 September 2013 17: 03
      +1
      Quote: bubla5
      Yes, to hell with him with Ukraine

      not properly.
      they must be closely watched and conclusions drawn. No wonder many local journalists fled there. A smaller population is easier to handle.
      It is necessary in the news to constantly cover events on the western and southwestern outskirts.
  • pamero
    pamero 20 September 2013 14: 48
    0
    right "seasoned" as long as you can already say. Until the ukraine is divided into western and eastern as under Ivan 4 (the terrible) no one will calm down neither England nor Russia !!! Until the primordial Little Russian lands leave, everything will continue.
  • michajlo
    michajlo 20 September 2013 14: 54
    +6
    Quote: morpex
    Quote: shark
    Let it roll where its little bunch of zapadentsev rolls

    Yes, you STRATEG !!! In recent years, 20 have been fouling everything that has been acquired since the tsarist times. And the army and military bases and territories. Now we’ll merge Ukraine into the toilet in Europe. Then. what? The territory of Russia along the Garden Ring? And what territorial claims are you talking about? Russia was the first in its time to GUARANTEE the territorial integrity of Ukraine. And this is an international treaty, whatever one may say.

    Good afternoon, dear Valery!

    I completely agree with your conclusions. good

    I would like to add that many Russians and members of the forum (thank God, not all), after all the "theatrical orchestrated squabbles" (Kiev-Moscow), are happy to send Ukraine (along with its people), "where to go" to the West !? fool

    And while they all forget that exactly the same "psycho-sabotage methods", strengthening the "controlled discontent with the people" of the situation in the USSR, numerous performers had prepared the ground in advance for a bloodless (in their terms / for the political elite of the Union itself and traitors from the top of the KGB) - the collapse of the USSR and the surrender of all wealth to the West.
    And the people of the USSR were dispersed across "15 new countries" and their majority (except for the top 2%) were "lowered" to the level of animals forced to fight every day "for a crumb of bread" in order to feed themselves and their families.

    Well, people who are hungry and agree to any humiliation can even "chop a tree on their heads", though only for the time being !!!

    Before that, dear members of the forum, how can we squabble among ourselves and "insult brother brother",
    - First, think about who gets GREATEST JOY from this bickering?

    - Is it really our Ivan da Mykola?

    - Or customers from the "world government" and their heralds from the Soviets, Kiev and Moscow?

    Sincerely, Mikhailo.
    1. morpex
      morpex 20 September 2013 15: 14
      +3
      Quote: michajlo
      - Or customers from the "world government" and their heralds from the Soviets, Kiev and Moscow?

      Respect to you Mikhailo. I have been trying for a long time to prove that everything that is happening with Ukraine and with Russia and in due time with the USSR is not a "round of history", but a clearly planned action or plan, call it what you want, and the puppeteers from the above instances, just pull the strings Slightly adjusting it. And some users here, without realizing it, play along with their phobia, both from one side and the other ...
      1. Che
        Che 21 September 2013 20: 57
        +1
        Yes, the West is blessed to divide and rule.
    2. washi
      washi 20 September 2013 17: 06
      +1
      Wanted - received.
      Stop babysitting, coaxing.
      It’s not us, but they decided to leave us.
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 20 September 2013 14: 55
    +4
    We Russians are deeply worried about the split that is emerging between our states - Russia and Ukraine. But in my deep conviction between nations, ordinary people, brothers - there will be no split. We, both Russians and Ukrainians, are children of a great civilization - Kievan Rus. We have good neighborly and friendly relations in our genes. Yes, we understand that a certain part of Ukrainians have a negative attitude towards Russia. But the overwhelming majority of the Ukrainian people are kind to Russians. So, in spite of everything, to be normal good neighborly relations!
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 20 September 2013 16: 04
      10
      Correctly ! Do not confuse people and power. The people and the authorities live in different dimensions and do not understand each other.
    2. vladek64
      vladek64 20 September 2013 20: 24
      0
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      But the overwhelming majority of the Ukrainian people are kind to Russians.

      Well, how else can we relate to the Russians, if we all have relatives in Russia?
      Therefore, it is very unpleasant to read some comments of Russians, where the Ukrainian people are treated as some kind of idiots and parasites.
  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 20 September 2013 15: 37
    +1
    Quote: Ivanovich47
    So, in spite of everything, to be normal good neighborly relations!

    Not with this power! For eight years, from the 2004 year, they nodded towards Russia, and when they got to the presidency they showed their true face - or rather, the ass to their voters. Alas, the family and party community is the main goal of these wolves in blue!
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  • washi
    washi 20 September 2013 17: 09
    0
    Tired of the theme of the southwestern outskirts. Let's get back in a year.
  • Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 20 September 2013 18: 02
    0
    Perhaps the deputy is able to read, it is possible that he is able to understand and comprehend what he read, but certainly he cannot influence the situation.
  • vikov
    vikov 20 September 2013 18: 04
    0
    Not with this power! For eight years, since 2004, they nodded toward Russia, and when they got to the presidency they showed their true face - or rather, an ass to their voters. Alas, the family and party obschevyak is the main goal of these wolves in blue! [/ Quote]

    There were a lot of years before 2004, and alas, it is impossible to change this family-party common fund in another way, even by joining the Russian Federation, because Chernomyrdin was right about the same common side: Whatever party is created, it turns out the CPSU.
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 20 September 2013 18: 27
    +2
    Ukrainian MPs and Russian MPs. What's the difference? For me, none. Today in the car I heard - Golikova became the head of the Accounts Chamber of Russia. Opposite-five. The rest are in favor, including the deputies from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. She so "supported" healthcare in Russia that even the "communists" are in favor. And my wife is disabled, I know not by hearsay what she was the Minister of Health. This will be the head of the Accounts Chamber. And how to be treated and live for a disabled person. Sometimes it seems that without a weapon you will not find the truth. If my wife had not been an invalid, maybe I would have gone to seek the truth as a Narodnik. Serdyukov, fear nothing! Nobody will touch you - neither the authorities, nor the deputies. Seek the conscience of a deputy - ask for snow from a miser in winter. What's in Russia, what's in Ukraine.
  • darksoul
    darksoul 20 September 2013 18: 38
    0
    We need to talk less about this topic, the brothers set off for free swimming, I am sure they will return 100% sooner or later, though with a torn jo ... sing. The people will figure out what to do with the supporters, they always charge us for so long, they will quickly drive and then Yushchenko’s Yushchenko’s Yanukovych’s will run to dad ... apparently the sponsor of these sch ... y ... x one
  • komel
    komel 20 September 2013 19: 06
    0
    Grybauskaite called on Kiev to solve the problem of selective justice, implement reforms in the field of justice, amend election laws, improve business conditions and strengthen the fight against corruption. In this case, the head of the country, the current EU chairman, said Brussels would be ready to sign an association agreement with Ukraine in November in Vilnius.
    The EU has a landslide fall in exports to crisis countries. If Europeans want to live well in the future due to export supplies, then a new country is needed. In this case, Ukraine. There was an MMM pyramid, replaced by a new European. Ukrainians need to hold a referendum.
  • mithridate
    mithridate 20 September 2013 19: 17
    +2
    everything, pi ... c Ukraine
  • vladek64
    vladek64 20 September 2013 19: 55
    0
    Does the author of the article really believe that Ukrainian MPs read his articles?
    Among those who comment on the article, is there at least one Ukrainian MP?
  • jasper
    jasper 20 September 2013 20: 21
    0
    It’s time to forget about ukroin long ago, neither ukroin Russia is not in allies, not economic partners, until through the ruin and healing hunger they remember that they are not ukrointsy, but Russian people and live on Russian (Little Russian) land
  • individual
    individual 20 September 2013 20: 30
    0
    In the 90s, the Ukrainian press wrote that RADA was glad that it was not DUMA.
    Now it's time to write that "RADA" will be a guest worker in Brussels. crying
  • Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 21 September 2013 02: 19
    +2
    I know Kornilov as a brilliant political scientist and expert analyst, but, in this case, this article is the voice of one crying in the desert! Awaken conscience? And what is it??? Who needs Ukraine and its people from these parasites-deputies? They have one shrine - the Golden Taurus. Everything that can and cannot be sold for him. Both mother and motherland with the people, due to which faces like sows were killed and ten mansions built. Gay.opeys have been substituting their z.opa with their pants down for a long time ... and they use it without hesitation.
  • Corsair
    Corsair 21 September 2013 10: 31
    +1
    Quote from the article:
    Someone is actively working to ensure that by the 2015 year the current president is deprived of support among his voters, and the Party of Regions has lost all influence in their patrimony - in the South-East of Ukraine.

    On the "Independence Day" I visited the Donetsk region, talked with friends, classmates. I will note in advance that among this circle of acquaintances there are representatives of a very wide spectrum - from people who are quite successful in the civil service and business, ordinary miners and to practically homeless people (the 90s have ruined their fate ...).
    And from almost EVERYONE with whom I managed to see and talk, I heard (in one or another expression, and almost always "not in print") that YANUPONCHIK "BLOWED" request
    And no one helped him in this. His mediocre work as president turned away the bulk of voters from him, and the "work" to deepen the gap between Yanukovych and his voters is increasingly intensifying ...
  • Che
    Che 21 September 2013 15: 40
    +1
    Quote: Che
    The Slavs are an ethnos, like the Turks, and the Semites, however.


    Read Lyubor Nekderle, maybe change something in your attitude to the Russians.