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Turkish expert: "The probability of intervention against Syria is zero"

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Turkish expert: "The probability of intervention against Syria is zero"



Why did a Syrian helicopter shot down on the Turkish border actually violate Turkish airspace? Why did this incident cause such a powerful information storm in Ankara? Retired Brigadier General Khaldun Solmaztyurk shared his opinion on the matter with Golos Rossii

- Immediately after the Russian-American agreement was reached in Geneva on the problem of the destruction of chemical weapons in Syria and the likelihood of intervention against the Arab Republic was virtually nullified, a Syrian military helicopter was shot down in the Turkish-Syrian border area. According to representatives of the Turkish leadership, it was necessary: ​​the Assad regime allegedly specifically sent a military helicopter to violate the border of Turkey in order to demonstrate impunity for its actions. In your opinion, is this possible?

- I do not think that Damascus specifically sent its combat helicopter to Turkey. Neither Assad, nor the Syrian government, nor the armed forces of the Arab Republic would have conducted such a provocative action in the current situation. On the other hand, it is known that the reconnaissance helicopter Mi-17 flies at a very high altitude, as a rule, at an altitude of about 5 km. And from this height it is very difficult to determine the exact line of the border. This is only possible with the help of modern technical equipment.

However, the downed helicopter is an old-fashioned machine that did not have this technology. Therefore, the helicopter crew was virtually unable to determine a clear separation between its own and foreign airspace. In this incident, a standard error occurred, from which no one who controls the old-style helicopters is insured. In addition, the helicopter was in Turkish airspace for a very short time, and after detecting the violation, it was immediately recalled by the command of the Syrian Air Force. All these facts indicate that this incident is an absolute coincidence, and not a pre-planned action.

- And, nevertheless, some (Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, - ed.) Suggest that after the incident with the helicopter the territory of Turkey, and, consequently, the territory of NATO is under threat. Do you agree with these concerns?

- In my opinion, the Assad regime is not dangerous for Turkey. The only thing that Turkey can suffer from is the consequences of the ongoing bloody civil war in Syria. Turkey is already experiencing the negative effects of this war. But this is the fault of Turkey itself, whose government has put a lot of effort into pushing the parties to the conflict.

The Turkish government almost from the very beginning became a party to the conflict and acted on the side of the opposition, thus becoming part of the Syrian crisis. Therefore, neither Ahmet Davutoglu nor the Turkish government has any reason to speak at all about the presence of any threat allegedly emanating from Damascus. The problems that Turkey faced today in connection with the Syrian crisis are the fault of the Turkish authorities.

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And the statements by Ahmet Davutoglu about the need to involve NATO in ensuring the security of Turkey are aimed exclusively at the country's internal audience. No one at NATO considers these statements by our Foreign Minister seriously.

“And yet, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen expressed his concerns about the threats posed, allegedly, by Damascus, accusing the Syrian authorities of using chemical weapons. Is it possible in this case to consider the statement of the NATO Secretary General as an indirect support of Ankara?

- No I do not think so. This is an absolutely political statement. NATO Secretary General can say anything. In any case, NATO has the right to act only by decision of the Council, that is, by decision of the national parliaments of the participating countries. Not so easy to turn the words of the Secretary General in the case. Especially in a situation where even the United States refused military intervention in Syria. Therefore, NATO will not support Turkey in practice. Therefore, the statements of the NATO Secretary General are rhetorical.

- Experts point out that when Ahmet Davutoglu spoke about the support provided to Ankara by foreign countries during the incident with the downed Syrian helicopter, he did not mention the United States. It seems that Washington simply ignored the incident. Is this due to disagreements between Turkey and the United States on the Syrian issue?

- The fact that there are deep disagreements between the United States and Turkey on the Syrian issue is an obvious fact. Today, Turkey is the only country still seeking military intervention in Syria. There is a serious divergence of views on Turkey, on the one hand, and the international community, including the United States, Great Britain, France, etc., on the other hand, on the Syrian issue. On the other hand, without the participation of the United States, there will be no military operation against Syria. However, Washington has openly stated that it does not intend to participate in anti-Syrian intervention. Therefore, in fact, there is no support from other countries, and the statements of Ahmet Davutoglu are intended exclusively for the internal audience of Turkey.

- Taking into account all the latest circumstances and statements, how much do you think is likely to be an intervention against Syria?

- The probability of intervention is zero.

Khaldun Solmazturk - former head of the International Security Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Turkey, a retired brigadier general.
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  1. experienced
    experienced 20 September 2013 16: 02 New
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    Oh experts, experts ... 20 experts say that war cannot be avoided and about the same as that it can’t be and everyone cites irrefutable data in support of laughing
    People make money and do not even apologize when their forecasts do not come true.
    - The probability of intervention is zero.

    This is not an expert, but a demagogue, a normal professional would say that 99,9% that there will be no intervention, leaving 0,1% for the “mistake” request
    1. alone
      alone 20 September 2013 16: 09 New
      12
      hi divorced all sorts of experts as fortunetellers at the station. and most importantly arranged a daisy there will be wars, there will be no wars. it’s sickening to read all this
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 20 September 2013 19: 35 New
        -1
        Quote: lonely
        arranged a daisy there will be war, there will be no war.
        type -. pregnancy test hi
      2. the polar
        the polar 20 September 2013 19: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: lonely
        hi divorced all sorts of experts as fortunetellers at the station. and most importantly arranged a daisy there will be wars, there will be no wars. it’s sickening to read all this

        The expert is the former general of the Turkish General Staff, so it cannot be ruled out that this interview is just an information cover for the upcoming, if not intervention, then massive air aggression.
        1. alone
          alone 20 September 2013 21: 12 New
          +1
          a retired general, and apparently not a supporter of Erdogan. means he knows nothing about the true plans.
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 20 September 2013 16: 11 New
      10
      ... besides, the military always after Erdogan’s reforms .. speak out against him .......
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 20 September 2013 17: 32 New
        +7
        In addition, the helicopter was in Turkish airspace for a very short time, and after a violation was discovered, it was immediately recalled by the Syrian Air Force command.
        - Well, then why was it to shoot him down? Turkish earhooks.
        Authoritatively declares that they will not bomb Syria - where does such confidence come from? I would not be so categorical - an unambiguous forecast on the further development of the situation in Syria is now impossible to do.
        1. grafrozow
          grafrozow 20 September 2013 19: 43 New
          +1
          Dear, in a 25-kilometer zone, no aircraft are allowed to fly without approval. If you don’t answer-your-alien, you must definitely shoot down. quote. In addition, the helicopter was in Turkish airspace for a very short time, and after a violation was discovered, it was immediately recalled by the Syrian Air Force command.
          1. Airman
            Airman 20 September 2013 20: 18 New
            +3
            Quote: grafrozow
            Dear, in a 25-kilometer zone, no aircraft are allowed to fly without approval. If you don’t answer-your-alien, you must definitely shoot down. quote. In addition, the helicopter was in Turkish airspace for a very short time, and after a violation was discovered, it was immediately recalled by the Syrian Air Force command.

            The wreckage of the helicopter fell on Syrian territory, and therefore the fact of violating the border is difficult to prove. If the wreckage fell on Turkish soil, then there is no arguing against the fact.
            1. grafrozow
              grafrozow 20 September 2013 20: 30 New
              -1
              Quote: Povshnik
              The wreckage of the helicopter fell on Syrian territory, and therefore the fact of violating the border is difficult to prove.
              On each radar there is a photofixation, day, time, station, this is a document. And the tales of a lost noodle helicopter are another.
              1. Airman
                Airman 20 September 2013 20: 44 New
                +2
                Quote: grafrozow
                Quote: Povshnik
                The wreckage of the helicopter fell on Syrian territory, and therefore the fact of violating the border is difficult to prove.
                On each radar there is a photofixation, day, time, station, this is a document. And the tales of a lost noodle helicopter are another.

                The accuracy of determining the coordinates by distance at stations of cm in the range of 1-1,5 km, so it’s difficult to fix a flight and landing in airspace of 20-30 km for 1-2 seconds, unless this is a missile defense system, which has better range accuracy.
                1. Patriot.ru.
                  Patriot.ru. 20 September 2013 22: 05 New
                  +1
                  1-1,5 but not kilometers, but meters. Otherwise, you won’t get anywhere. Long-wave stations
                  1. grafrozow
                    grafrozow 20 September 2013 22: 47 New
                    0
                    Quote: Patriot.ru.
                    1-1,5 but not kilometers, but meters. Otherwise, you won’t get anywhere. Long-wave stations
                    Yes, type p14 "dessert", and centimeter type "Tilt" coordinates give up to a centimeter.
                2. grafrozow
                  grafrozow 20 September 2013 23: 01 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Povshnik
                  The accuracy of determining the coordinates by distance at stations in cm of the range of 1-1,5 km, so it’s difficult to fix the flight and entry into the airspace for 20-30 km for 1-2 seconds
                  Patrol MIGs fly 1km in 50 minute, MI 8-4km and each crew knows where the border is, we no longer believe in fairy tales ...
    3. Che
      Che 21 September 2013 15: 46 New
      0
      The Turkish military is more adequate than the prime minister; it is not without reason that he spread rot on them.
  2. albanech
    albanech 20 September 2013 16: 03 New
    -15
    Syria again, Syria! Not tired of listening to and reading empty articles about Syria! Soon we will forget about it and there will be another Syria! You just need to fight back the United States and restore real order in the region with the help of the Airborne Forces, blue helmets! Glory to Russia - a true stronghold of statehood! The guarantor of peace on earth! The USA is already completely unbelted! Maybe we should go gasp already?
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 20 September 2013 16: 14 New
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      Quote: albanech
      Maybe we should go gasp


      Well, you got excited here .... laughing
      Quote: albanech
      restore real order in the region with the help of airborne forces, blue helmets!


      and then your son will be there, or you yourself will go to put things in order .... if you go, then I welcome ... hi
      1. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 20 September 2013 19: 18 New
        10
        Quote: albanech
        You just need to fight back the United States and restore real order in the region with the help of the Airborne Forces, blue helmets! Glory to Russia - a true stronghold of statehood! The guarantor of peace on earth! The USA is already completely unbelted! Maybe we should go gasp already?


        Because of such sages, a lot of guys were lost in Grozny on New Year's Eve. You need to think.
        1. grafrozow
          grafrozow 20 September 2013 19: 48 New
          +3
          Quote: Blackgrifon
          Because of such sages, a lot of guys were lost in Grozny on New Year's Eve. You need to think.

          one regiment of the airborne ...
          1. Patriot.ru.
            Patriot.ru. 20 September 2013 22: 19 New
            -1
            Before the storming of Grozny into the second Chechen one, it was announced that no one would be able to take the city of Grozny. CIA SGA.We took it.
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        3. albanech
          albanech 24 September 2013 10: 26 New
          0
          Blackgrifon Have you fought in Chechnya? I earned my epaulettes with sweat and blood! A professional will always find a way to win, a "chatterbox" will sit under the bush and "shed tears"! We will have to put things in order in Syria! The main thing is not to worry, but to plan everything correctly!
      2. major071
        major071 21 September 2013 08: 25 New
        +5
        Ah, waved with his right hand - a clean street, waved with his left - an alley. And if you still get a knife from your pants ... lol
  3. Stiletto
    Stiletto 20 September 2013 16: 06 New
    +2
    I welcome Turkey’s ability to reverse gear! Who else?!
    1. vBR
      vBR 21 September 2013 01: 21 New
      0
      "Turkey" are different. Erdogan's dudes systematically cleaned such people out of the Turkish army. Read carefully - a retired brigadier general does not look like a pensioner. There are many normal and reasonable people in Turkey, as elsewhere, but, unfortunately, they are removed from power
  4. albanech
    albanech 20 September 2013 16: 08 New
    +6
    The Turkish Sultan has always been difficult to understand!
    1. Shumka
      Shumka 20 September 2013 21: 53 New
      0
      Turkish to understand?
      Yes, who will understand him, he's a weather vane.
      then the weather vane of the Saxons, then the weather vane of Israel, the modern, then the weather vane of the USA, then the weather vane by itself. only Ataturk was a person along the way.
  5. a52333
    a52333 20 September 2013 16: 11 New
    +2
    Glory to Russia - a true stronghold of statehood! The guarantor of peace on earth! The USA is already completely unbelted! Maybe we should go gasp already?
    That is good. that a god of horns doesn’t give a sloppy cow. lol
  6. andrei332809
    andrei332809 20 September 2013 16: 21 New
    +1
    [quote] The fault of the Turkish authorities.
    you tell it to Erdogan. so many "wise men" climbed out in the wake of the Syrian war
  7. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 20 September 2013 16: 22 New
    +5
    The article "neither fish nor meat" The answers are nothing specific. And the fact that Turkey will not take a step without the United States is already understandable. And the helicopter was shot down simply by window dressing, only the pilots are sorry. In general, it would be better for Turkey to tackle its internal problems, which they have above the roof. And Assad is not up to them; he needs to finish the militants as soon as possible.
  8. moreman78
    moreman78 20 September 2013 16: 55 New
    -1
    . Enough to crush the water in the mortar.
  9. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 20 September 2013 16: 57 New
    10
    The ruling elite of Turkey is aggressively opposed to the Assad regime. She needs a small victorious war to distract Turkish society from the problems that have arisen in recent years. This is evidenced by constant protests in the capital and other cities. The Turkish authorities were very upset by Russia's proposals for a peaceful settlement of events around Syria. And so I wanted to bomb Syria, tormented by a two-year war. So even a helicopter shot down. Satisfied their pride. It’s disgusting to look at such actions by Turkey, the NATO countries. Do not expect good human behavior from NATO. Aggressor, he is the aggressor!
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 20 September 2013 20: 21 New
      -2
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      The Turkish authorities were very upset by Russia's proposals for a peaceful settlement of events around Syria. And so I wanted to bomb Syria, tormented by a two-year war. So even a helicopter shot down. Satisfied your pride
      Yes, they lied on the peace proposals of Russia, the helicopter shot down correctly, if our air defense worked like that - Rust did not land on Red Square. hi
    2. alone
      alone 20 September 2013 22: 47 New
      +2
      I’ll tell you this. Last year, Assad himself established the 10km no-fly zone for the Syrian Air Force, after shelling from Syrian territory caused the deaths of 5 Turkish citizens in a Turkish city. Asad’s order is a second time. Secondly, air defense of any country has the right to shoot down violators of its borders. But the wreckage fell on Syrian territory, to be honest, the crew were not lucky. If the helicopter and crew were in Turkey, 100% of the pilots would be alive. because the judge on the maps of military operations. the entire border with Turkey is not controlled by Assad.
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 20 September 2013 23: 14 New
        +2
        Quote: lonely
        . And here is the fact that the wreckage fell on Syrian territory, to be honest the crew were unlucky in this.
        Omar, the crew is instructed before departure, the border zone is shown on the flight map as a red line, it is not possible to get lost, because the dispatcher will immediately warn about deviation from the route, plus his air defense will make noise if the target is in the border zone.
        1. alone
          alone 20 September 2013 23: 27 New
          0
          hello count! I know it. where yesterday or the day before yesterday in one site there was a photo from the radar station, where there was a snapshot of the helicopter route. I’ll rummage around in the internet. I’ll even point to the point where the helicopter was shot down. By the way, here’s the link

          http://sandrermakoff.livejournal.com/449729.html
  10. garik77
    garik77 20 September 2013 17: 05 New
    +2
    I want to believe that there will be no intervention, but hardly the amers will abandon their goal - the change of the Syrian regime.
    1. sub307
      sub307 20 September 2013 23: 05 New
      -1
      "Relax," of course, is not worth it. Will work out other options.
  11. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 20 September 2013 17: 24 New
    +6
    I think Syria will no longer return captured commandos to Turkey. The Turks have exhausted the Goodwill limit.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 20 September 2013 20: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Yoon Clob
      I think Syria will no longer return captured commandos to Turkey.


      Where are the facts about captured commandos?
      1. Yun Klob
        Yun Klob 24 September 2013 13: 41 New
        0
        Marat Musin in an interview on Syria spoke about this episode. In August, if the memory serves.
  12. DJEIN8
    DJEIN8 20 September 2013 17: 31 New
    +5
    Upon violation of the border ......
    Woe to the commanders, stupid rank-and-file performers, (and possibly traitors-provocateurs) the same are seen in all countries .......
    At such a tense moment, giving the United States and the rest an extra reason ......... Who needs to be to substitute yourself and us including ...... What, it is so difficult to give a command not to approach the border (all the more so at the moment) (this is no longer a mistake) the distance could lead to similar incidents .... especially with the victims ..... and even possible future ..... It seems like betrayal or stupidity at the level betrayals .... their stupidity begins to get them, especially when you consider the possible consequences for the whole world .....
  13. Stepnogorets
    Stepnogorets 20 September 2013 17: 43 New
    -2
    There is an opinion that the intervention of the West in Syria began and ended at the moment when two missiles of the Anchor target were shot down by Russian air defense on September 03, more precisely one was shot down, the other was redirected to the Mediterranean Sea.
    1. alone
      alone 20 September 2013 22: 41 New
      +3
      the intervention is not over yet, but just postponed. It is still unknown what will happen.
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 20 September 2013 22: 43 New
        +1
        Omar, congratulations on receiving the Marshal. In your opinion, how will the intervention take place?
        1. alone
          alone 20 September 2013 23: 45 New
          +1
          I welcome you Andrew! Thank you for your congratulations, I look forward to becoming a marshal too!

          I’m not waiting for an intervention yet! but in order to carry out the intervention, very, very important reasons are needed. a downed helicopter is not a reason for this. but as for a good reason, 100% are sure that the special services of all interested countries are working hard so that the Assad will eventually give them a reason. And I can assume some bribery then military commanders who can help them in this matter. The East is a delicate matter. Mustafa Tlas was the most faithful person of Hafiz Asad, and his son Manaf Tlas was a close person of Bashar Asad. But now he is in the camp of his opponents.
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    1. Gennady1973
      Gennady1973 20 September 2013 20: 25 New
      -1
      I decided to learn more about my surname and distant relatives, and accidentally stumbled on Google ..... look for morons in social networks and not here .... men for minus for getting along like this. The Pepsi generation does not roll here ...
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 20 September 2013 21: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: Gennady1973
        Decidela


        How does it fit with your nickname, comment ?! winked
        1. Gennady1973
          Gennady1973 21 September 2013 08: 39 New
          0
          Above was a comment of some girl. I copied and answered these are not my words. Mine below
  15. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 20 September 2013 18: 20 New
    0
    That's right. Why is the intervention? Opposition units are engaged in continuous battles. The units are well maintained. Intelligence, rear support are satisfactory, the local opposition command has operational conditions.
  16. amp
    amp 20 September 2013 18: 27 New
    +1
    Assad needs to send special forces to attack militant bases in Turkey and Jordan. And all those who somehow help the militants in these countries. You can not be limited only to protection.
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 September 2013 19: 32 New
      0
      Assad needs to send special forces to attack militant bases in Turkey and Jordan. And all those who somehow help the militants in these countries. You can not be limited only to protection.



      This should have been done five years ago, without a chime on the entire Internet. And the ranks of Asadovsky’s special forces thinned out in two years.
      1. Guun
        Guun 20 September 2013 20: 14 New
        +1
        And Assad will immediately receive a NATO ground operation. Damascus will fall, and then the fate of Gaddafi. This is how this nonsense would end, all the more it is clear that Assad listens and makes orders to V.V. Putin to attack bases (even if terrorists) in the territory of a foreign country - this will not happen.
  17. darksoul
    darksoul 20 September 2013 18: 44 New
    0
    I feel sorry for the pilots, their heads were cut off. I just did not understand the statement that the pilots ejected. How? Only the Ka-52 has a similar system in my opinion where the blades are fired. But Assad needs to behave carefully, we have spoiled the plans of the friends of Syria. Israel, Turkey .....
  18. andruha70
    andruha70 20 September 2013 19: 06 New
    0
    A standard error occurred in this incident, from which no one who controls old-style helicopters is safe. In addition, the helicopter was in Turkish airspace for a very short time, and after a violation was discovered, it was immediately recalled by the Syrian Air Force command.
    all the same, fellow practitioners, these Turks (not the people, but the military commissars), what could not be clarified? no, they had to bang him ... am
  19. Stepnogorets
    Stepnogorets 20 September 2013 19: 06 New
    -2
    Quote: gunnerminer
    That's right. Why is the intervention? Opposition units are engaged in continuous battles. The units are well maintained. Intelligence, rear support are satisfactory, the local opposition command has operational conditions.

    ATTENTION! I urge you to carefully study all the comments on this website of the above user!
    1. NORILCHANIN
      NORILCHANIN 20 September 2013 19: 19 New
      0
      Where did such detailed intelligence come from?
    2. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 September 2013 20: 24 New
      -1
      ATTENTION! I urge you to carefully study all the comments on this website of the above user!




      Thanks for the advertisement!
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 20 September 2013 21: 49 New
        +6
        Quote: gunnerminer
        ON THIS SITE OF THE ABOVE USER!



        ... look, you haven’t been put to the wall yet ..... laughing beware tomorrow go out fellow
    3. Andrew-001
      Andrew-001 20 September 2013 20: 25 New
      +1
      Stepnogorets, and what do you dislike in the comments of this user?
      Forum rules do not violate, does not write nonsense, Hurray-patriotism is not carried away.
      I read and found nothing seditious.
      1. alone
        alone 20 September 2013 22: 36 New
        +1
        one of the few who writes quite adequate comments. and is friends with logic. if honestly, it's nice to even read
    4. Che
      Che 21 September 2013 15: 54 New
      -1
      Quote: Stepnogorets
      ATTENTION! I urge you to carefully study all the comments on this website of the above user!


      Yes muddy dude.
  20. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 20 September 2013 20: 18 New
    -2
    ... without US participation, there will be no military operation against Syria. However, Washington openly stated that it did not intend to participate in anti-Syrian intervention. Therefore, in fact, there is no support from other countries, and the statements of Ahmet Davutoglu are intended exclusively for the internal audience of Turkey.

    Everything with Akhmetka is clear, growls, throws the earth with his paws (they say I’ll bury all Syrians), because he wants to frighten the Turks, the son of a bitch knows that he does not risk anything.
  21. michajlo
    michajlo 20 September 2013 20: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: Stepnogorets
    Quote: gunnerminer
    That's right. Why is the intervention? Opposition units are engaged in continuous battles. The units are well maintained. Intelligence, rear support are satisfactory, the local opposition command has operational conditions.

    ATTENTION! I urge you to carefully study all the comments on this website of the above user!

    Good afternoon, dear nickname! Sorry, I don’t know how to call you by name?

    I looked at him. Comments, some are pleasant to me, some are not !?
    What do you think I looked through (didn’t see) in his Remarks and what should I see in yours? Please specify or write me a private message, enlighten the "trusting and misunderstanding"!

    Thanks in advance, Michael.
  22. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 20 September 2013 20: 55 New
    0
    And let's introduce an unmanned zone for NATO and be afraid.
  23. klavyr
    klavyr 20 September 2013 21: 51 New
    -1
    The title of the article inspired the "non-attack pact"
  24. 1goose3
    1goose3 20 September 2013 21: 52 New
    +2
    Quote: albanech
    Syria again, Syria! Not tired of listening to and reading empty articles about Syria! Soon we will forget about it and there will be another Syria! You just need to fight back the United States and restore real order in the region with the help of the Airborne Forces, blue helmets! Glory to Russia - a true stronghold of statehood! The guarantor of peace on earth! The USA is already completely unbelted! Maybe we should go gasp already?


    No, of course it's cool. But today the guys no longer pour Albanian. stop
  25. Black
    Black 20 September 2013 22: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: gunnerminer
    Assad needs to send special forces to attack militant bases in Turkey and Jordan. And all those who somehow help the militants in these countries. You can not be limited only to protection.

    I recall the "bearded" question about the impossibility of sex on Red Square.
    However, Friday ....
    Quote: albanech
    Maybe we should go gasp already?

    It's time. 150 each? Or not trifle? ..
  26. Hariva
    Hariva 20 September 2013 22: 22 New
    0
    The Turkish government almost from the very beginning became a party to the conflict and sided with the opposition

    Hehe. On the US side, they spoke. The opposition as such, in principle, has nothing to do with it.
  27. mirag2
    mirag2 21 September 2013 05: 18 New
    0
    All this garbage, such "experts." Because the former. Maybe he specifically voiced a different point of view from the current Turkish military (or government), in order to prove later (if that) that he was right (to remind himself) .A still in the states there too, former criminals wrote a letter to Obama not to hit Syria. Yes, there are even active soldiers against the Syrian operation. And what? The state’s policy (at least in the states) is not to rule. America caved in under the Jewish lobby ... What Israel recently admitted is that al Qaeda is better than Assad supporting Hezbollah. You can deal with Al Qaeda: after all, a gang (albeit organized) can influence it at the very least with the help of Saudi Arabia (which is again influenced by the states), at worst send Russia to another target, for example. In Israel, 77% hate us. They are in second place by the power of hatred towards us!
  28. individual
    individual 21 September 2013 08: 36 New
    -1
    The Brigadier General says obvious things and we must agree with him.
    The top of Ankara would be glad to unleash aggression in Syria, but the "dad" on NATO does not order. And the warlike statements of Turkish politicians sound for internal use and the manifestation of their own unsatisfied ambitions.
  29. vitek1233
    vitek1233 21 September 2013 11: 29 New
    0
    That would take all the Russians and did not go to Turkey to rest, as if the Turks felt themselves, maybe they would become more peaceful
  30. Stepnogorets
    Stepnogorets 21 September 2013 15: 13 New
    -1
    Quote: gunnerminer
    ATTENTION! I urge you to carefully study all the comments on this website of the above user!




    Thanks for the advertisement!

    It's my pleasure! Your knowledge of the problems in the Syrian army is surprising, as if only from there.
  31. slacker
    slacker 23 September 2013 16: 44 New
    +1
    Turks - get out of Germany! Assad, turn their neck!