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Syrian compote instead of Syrian cocktail

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No, no, do not rush to fix me! I understand everything - the risk should always be commensurate with the possible benefit. And provoking a war with the United States, even for the sake of the most useful ally, would be, to put it mildly, not entirely rational ...


But, nevertheless, I am very interested in one question, and what could we do in the current situation if our leadership would venture to counter the "empire of good" not only with the main caliber of our diplomacy, but also with a certain amount of conditional gunboats? Are there any opportunities to annoy the foe and help an ally with some practical military or paramilitary measures, or is it so impossible that you should not even discuss it?

Well, let's talk ...

To begin with - a small geographical and geopolitical retreat.

I think the regular visitors of this resource know perfectly well where Syria is. Its direct environment, including the political environment, is well known - all of the US satellites are ready, if necessary, to provide the American peacemaker with a table, shelter, and a list of targets on the territory of the Syrian neighbor. And the possibilities of direct military opposition to American peacemaking are limited, if not to take extremes, unless a small stretch of the Syrian coast, to which a squadron of our ships could approach.

Someone will surely say: “The squadron came up, so what? We will fight with the sixth fleet USA? We’ll hit the adversary with anti-ship missiles, and ourselves to the bottom under a retaliatory strike. ” And then he still advises me to fix me, away from sin, as they say, away ...

However, my scenario is a little less bloodthirsty. I just think that large-scale bilateral exercises with the Syrian Navy could be arranged on this stretch of the Mediterranean Sea. Thus, we and the legitimate government of Syria would support and complicate the implementation of his plans to the probable aggressor by transferring a considerable “piece” of air and sea space adjacent to Syria from the category “comfortable” to the category “problematic”. The maximum possible control of airspace on the approach to the Syrian ter. waters, timely warning of Syrian air defense systems of approaching air targets, self-targeting of targets that are confidently identified as unmanned - I am sure that this would be a great help for the Syrian army. Moreover, the Americans, having received some kind of preliminary signal about the possibility of such a development of events, would have thought about it ten times, and should they even use this sector of air and sea space at all, or is it more prudent to bypass it somehow?

To a reasonable observation that this sector is too small to drastically change the situation, I will answer simply - of course, you should not limit yourself to just that. Some methods of counteraction will be discussed below, but for now there are a few nuances.

Having blocked the Syrian coast, we will put the American command before a choice - either to refuse altogether from using the forces and means of the sixth US fleet, or to act mainly through the territory of Israel. Here we are unlikely to be able to interfere so well with quality, but ... First, the Israeli direction has been the highest priority for Syrian air defense systems over the past decades. If this defense is at least something worth, then it is there. And if one of the main attacks will be directed across the borders of Israel, it will at least slightly, but facilitate the task facing the Syrians in the event of a possible strike on their country.

But that's not all. In my humble opinion, for Russia, for its future policy in the region, it is extremely important to fix the role of Israel as one of the accomplices of the aggression. Along with others, namely our main well-wishers in the region - Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc. It is necessary not only to seat them in the same boat - they already have been sitting in it for decades - but also to demonstrate this most clearly and unequivocally. Here, America is bombing Arabs with Saudi money, using Israeli airspace. The picture needs to be drawn, made volumetric and fixed, so that the role and efforts of each could be read without the prompters even by not very politically literate spectators.

Why do we need it? No, not for shitty Israel. It is necessary, in fact, with only one purpose - then, when the American "Arab Spring" exhales and the time comes to the Russian, it will be easier for us to recruit international brigades to overthrow Saudi autocracies. One way or another, these bad regimes violate the rights of women and gays, and we cannot look at it any other way except through the slot of the Kalashnikov assault rifle ...

Although, of course, you can and bargain, that's someone like more. But bargaining will be more successful, the darker the sky over Riyadh. And a little ink of Israeli ferment in the clouds hanging over it will not prevent us ...

Having made this small lyrical digression, let us return to the current situation. Are our capabilities limited to blocking only one direction of a possible strike? Or even more extensively - what else can we do, playing on the verge of a foul, in order to make it difficult for the Americans to conduct “peacekeeping bombardment” of Syria and, accordingly, make it easier for Syrian air defense to protect the airspace of their country?

Of course, I have often heard that our troops should be sent directly to Syria. I think I heard it not only me - the Internet is overflowing with such sentences of varying degrees of responsibility and argumentation. Send, they say, a couple of regiments MiG-29 and a couple of C-300 complexes, but with our staff, and under the banners unfolded and with greased drums - everyone will be scared right away and ask for peace. However, this option seems to me the most problematic at once for several reasons. Besides the fact that this is purely logistical problematic, there is one more nuance ...

In my opinion, with this scenario, the stakes will increase very much. Excessive involvement in the conflict threatens the leadership of Russia with too large reputational losses in case of defeat. And it is no longer so important that this defeat will be from the rebels, who in this case will simply be overwhelmed with any weapons, finances and other resources they need for an endless war of attrition, or defeat in direct confrontation with the Americans. In any case, it will foul on both political instability in Russia itself and a sharp decline in its prestige in the international arena. And if so, then the temptation of Americans will be extremely high. And this, as practice shows, will certainly lead to a sharp escalation of the conflict in any of the scenarios that are unfavorable for us.

I think, playing on the verge of a foul, it is extremely important to see this edge. To clearly separate the political game, even the most risky, from a bluff that threatens us with military defeat. And the option of sending troops to Syria, in my humble opinion, is just a bluff. Moreover, the bluff is just one in which no one will believe - there is not enough to have a stony face, you also need to hope for the impassable stupidity of the enemy.

I see a completely different situation with a possible "workaround", the essence of which is to conduct joint exercises of the Russian and Iranian Air Forces. The air corridor over Iranian territory for our DRLO planes and their methodical patrol of the Persian Gulf, as well as the adjacent waters of the Indian Ocean - this is “what the doctor prescribed”, and it fits in with the definition of “cheap and angry”. The maximum benefit at the lowest cost, the collection of the most up-to-date information about the actions of the American army in the Gulf region, its timely transfer to the Syrian army — this is very tangible assistance to Syria, and demonstration of the possibility of rapprochement with Iran in the event that Americans ignore our interests in the Middle East.

The only weak point in this “maneuver” seems to me to be some unpredictability of Iran itself. It may well be that his leadership, inspired by the roar of our aircraft, will start to inflame passions above the degree prescribed by Russian doctors. And this, again, is fraught for us with too burdensome involvement in the conflict, which we, let's not forget about it, still want to avoid ...

However, by acting in this way, we pinch the Americans into peculiar ticks. Yes, more often than not, they will be purely “informational”, aimed more at complicating the actions of Texas “peacekeepers” than at direct opposition to them. Yes, they will have a north-western and southern direction at their disposal, from where they can act without looking back at us. But even this will be a great help for Syria’s air defense, which can both more intelligently maneuver and meet the enemy in a sighted way, and concentrate its forces on those directions that, alas, we cannot cover with our radar fields yet. Will this help be effective? Probably a little less than we would like. But, I am sure, much more than our overseas partners in the geopolitical corps de balde would like ..

And, in conclusion, such an important aspect as the possible reaction of the Americans. That is, more specifically - can they, outraged by our arrogance, “take it and shy away”?

Certainly, technically, they can. In any case, our ships off the coast of Syria will be quite vulnerable, and in the event of a massive strike, they are unlikely to resist for any long time. However, it will not be easy for Americans who have lost their shores to decide on this. Because we will, as they say, "in their own right." That is, in international law. Openly ignoring international law is one thing. Disregarding it with weaponsYes, in relation to who can and answer - the case is quite another. And, having received in response a pair of anti-ship missiles in the board of any Nimitz, it will be very difficult to justify their next steps in front of the allies. Anyway, it will be difficult to make some steps. For a nuclear exchange with Russia, the Americans, I am sure, do not want even now. A full-scale non-nuclear war with the Russian Federation also seems problematic and of little interest. What to do? Shelling another Russian ship? Get back a couple more rockets? Is this with the complete unpreparedness of the United States for its own losses, with their obvious unwillingness to dispel the myth of their own invulnerability and omnipotence? Oh, come on, because ...

Here I wanted to write - “and after all not fools are sitting”, but thought it over. They sit there all sorts, Bush or Biden will not let lie. But smart, I think, still more. And if not smart, then at least cautious. And this is the best guarantee that a well-calculated boldness in the Syrian direction offers us much more advantages than disadvantages. The only thing we should avoid is attacks of manned aerial targets that could lead to the loss of US Air Force personnel. At least, you should not start first ...

Well, quite, very “in conclusion”. Of course, I am very pleased with the obvious success of our diplomacy. So gracefully break the basket, in which the naglo Saxons put all their information nervously-paralytic "eggs" - it's just bravo! I really hope that the fervor of the “peacekeepers” will actually subside, and direct external aggression will stop threatening the Syrian people. However, it is hard to believe in it, and it is clear that, just in case, we must prepare for the next round of the information war. Personally, I put on provocation with an air strike on one of the neighboring countries of Syria as an occasion to push the resolution on the unmanned zone. Although I do not rule out that the CIA will wise up and come up, finally, something original ...
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  1. v.lyamkin
    v.lyamkin 20 September 2013 08: 16 New
    +6
    Thank you for the article. Interesting layout. As a whole, I agree with the arguments of the author.
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 20 September 2013 08: 21 New
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      At least you should not start first ...

      This, I suppose, is not even discussed.
      By the way, what prevents the Russian Federation from delivering demonstrative missile attacks on militant positions in the event of NATO attacks on Syria?
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 20 September 2013 08: 24 New
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        Quote: GreatRussia
        By the way, what prevents the Russian Federation from delivering demonstrative missile attacks on militant positions in the event of NATO attacks on Syria?

        It would be interesting to know what?
        1. GreatRussia
          GreatRussia 20 September 2013 08: 50 New
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          Quote: Vladimirets
          It would be interesting to know what?

          TU-22, for example.
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 20 September 2013 08: 57 New
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            Quote: GreatRussia
            TU-22, for example.

            Это называется "из пушки по воробьям".
            1. 31231
              31231 20 September 2013 10: 47 New
              -2
              Well, at the firing range, they will shoot back or at the wahs, is there no difference ?! True, it is necessary for a reliable goal, so that among civilians there is less noise.
          2. a52333
            a52333 20 September 2013 10: 58 New
            0
            A Th not a vigorous bomb?
          3. alone
            alone 20 September 2013 16: 14 New
            +3
            and on what route will these Tu-22s strike Syria? do you think someone will give an air corridor for this?
            1. Black Colonel
              Black Colonel 20 September 2013 17: 17 New
              +1
              Through Iran, it’s real.
              1. alone
                alone 20 September 2013 17: 22 New
                +1
                belay and where will you go to Iraq? look at the map. Do you think the pro-American power of Iraq, which is sitting there thanks to the Americans, will let Russian troops into Syria? and you think you get there through Turkey? fellow
                1. velikoros-xnumx
                  velikoros-xnumx 20 September 2013 23: 27 New
                  +1
                  Quote: lonely
                  and where will you go to Iraq? look at the map. Do you think the pro-American power of Iraq, which is sitting there thanks to the Americans, will let Russian troops into Syria? and you think you get there through Turkey?

                  In the variant of the attack using the Tu-160 (and why not) as carriers of the X-55 KR (in my opinion there were variants with a non-nuclear warhead, although I could be mistaken), given the flight range of which, it would not be necessary to go beyond Iranian airspace. But, but all this is purely speculative, no one will do it, and the Persians are very doubtful Allies, although for now we are on one side of the barricades. As the author rightly suggests, they can easily use our military support to realize their geopolitical ambitions in the region.
        2. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 20 September 2013 10: 27 New
          0
          At least one minuser can make a responsible answer, how can we effectively hit the militants in Syria without conducting a ground operation? Maybe we’ll beat Iskanders in quarters, where are the militants and government troops mixed up? Americans want to hit government targets. And what about militants that have air defense facilities, military depots, airfields or ships?
          1. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 20 September 2013 15: 37 New
            +6
            Quote: Vladimirets
            And what about militants that have air defense facilities, military depots, airfields or ships?


            there is. camps, military depots. You can hit them with cruise missiles.

            I did not minus if Che.
          2. alone
            alone 20 September 2013 16: 17 New
            +2
            and minusers here on the drum for all sorts of arguments. the main thing is that you expressed your opinion and this opinion is different. some here even suggested sending ground troops there through Iran, without even knowing that Iran and Syria do not have common borders.
      2. vlad_pr
        vlad_pr 20 September 2013 08: 43 New
        +5
        This would be a direct intervention. Those. a complete loss in diplomatic terms. Then for ten years, do not wash off the slops that will be poured onto the country. To enter into conflict - to give the Americans a necessary reason, right there NATO will quickly fall under their banner. And then Syria will not stay long.
        Sincerely.
      3. washi
        washi 20 September 2013 12: 53 New
        -2
        Of course, I have heard more than once that our troops must be sent directly to Syria. I think it’s not just me who heard it - the Internet is full of such offers
        And now they are obliged to control chemistry. Where will the chem. the ammunition of the Syrians is their problem, but We should not let anyone in there. And protect Your troops from Any attack.
        I have not heard about a retaliatory strike, but I think it will be political in the beginning. Then we'll see.
    2. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 20 September 2013 17: 50 New
      +1
      I really hope that the ardor of the "peacekeepers" will actually cease, and direct external aggression will cease to threaten the Syrian people. However, it is hard to believe in this, and it is clear that just in case you need to prepare for the next round of the information war. Personally, I put on a provocation with an air strike on one of the states neighboring with Syria as an excuse to push through a resolution on an unmanned zone. Although I do not exclude that the CIA will grow wiser and come up with, at last, something original ...
      - автору плюс, за альтернативные, вполне разумные, более активные и главное выполнимые предложения по действиям России по ситуации в Сирии. А всем "умникам" предлагаю не расслабляться - все ещё далеко не закончено.
      1. alone
        alone 20 September 2013 17: 52 New
        +2
        unfortunately still to come!
    3. Che
      Che 21 September 2013 16: 01 New
      +2
      To author +
      There is a rational kernel. But again, we are late with this matter.
  2. domokl
    domokl 20 September 2013 08: 22 New
    +3
    Interestingly, I probably missed somewhere that Syria is our ally. Who and when did you talk about it? Assad? Didn’t say it? Putin? Didn’t say it either. The article is readable, but theorizing is practically pure.
    1. Petrix
      Petrix 20 September 2013 11: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: domokl
      Interestingly, I probably missed somewhere that Syria is our ally. Who was talking about this and when?

      Do not cling to words. The confrontation is not due to the fact that Syria is our ally, but because the United States and NATO are our adversary.
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 20 September 2013 08: 23 New
    +3
    No, the author still needs to be fixed.
    1. optimist
      optimist 20 September 2013 10: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      No, the author still needs to be fixed.

      Причём не только автора. Ещё кучу людей, у которых чешутся руки и другие органы. И прописать им качественное изучение российской истории хотя бы за период 1914-1917г.г.... Одно дело комментами "воевать", другое дело в Сирии оказаться в качестве "пушечного мяса". what
      1. Arabist
        Arabist 20 September 2013 17: 36 New
        +1
        Do not believe the Optimist, for the first time I agree with you.
      2. varov14
        varov14 20 September 2013 19: 27 New
        0
        So write those who are clearly not going there
    2. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 20 September 2013 17: 45 New
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      Quote: Vladimirets
      No, the author still needs to be fixed.


      В оперативном деле ФСБ видимо как лицо неблагонадежное и опасное для действующей власти? Вы видимо сами оттуда, потому что если нет смотрите как бы вас самого не "зафиксировали". laughing
  4. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 20 September 2013 09: 00 New
    +2
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Это называется "из пушки по воробьям".

    This is called application practice.

    Combat application

    Limited use at the end of the Afghan war (in 1988-1989), as well as in the early stages of the first war in Chechnya.
    During the war in South Ossetia in August 2008, the Tu-22M3 group launched targeted air strikes at the ammunition depots of the Georgian army
    1. GDP
      GDP 20 September 2013 09: 20 New
      +2
      If the Syrian army knew where the rebels stored their ammunition, it would have destroyed them, by aviation or artillery - it doesn’t matter ... Alkaida is not a regular army, they have no goals worthy of long-range aviation or cruise missiles ...
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 20 September 2013 09: 28 New
        0
        Quote: GDP
        If the Syrian army knew where the rebels stored their ammunition, it would have destroyed them, by aviation or artillery - it doesn’t matter ... Alkaida is not a regular army, they have no goals worthy of long-range aviation or cruise missiles ...

        You did not read what I wrote earlier:

        ... deliver demonstrative missile attacks on militant positions in the event of NATO attacks on Syria?


        The United States, striking targets in Syria, will primarily disable airfields, respectively, aircraft.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 20 September 2013 13: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: GreatRussia
          You did not read what I wrote earlier:

          ... deliver demonstrative missile attacks on militant positions in the event of NATO attacks on Syria?

          Where are these positions? What is the nomenclature of Tu-22 weapons for attacking militants? Often, military action videos are posted on the VO, government troops fight the militants on them, and buses and cars drive 100 meters along the road. How can the Tu-22 be used so that civilians and SAR troops are not affected? What are you talking about?
      2. 31231
        31231 20 September 2013 10: 50 New
        0
        But what about the Anna News reports on bombed headquarters with Turkish and other instructors ?!
        1. alone
          alone 20 September 2013 16: 19 New
          +2
          I personally do not trust any information channels. all illuminate one-sided and biased.
        2. smersh70
          smersh70 20 September 2013 16: 40 New
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          Quote: 31231
          But what about the Anna News reports on bombed headquarters with Turkish and other instructors ?!

          ..... better watch other videos .....
          It turns out that for Maalulu serious fights were going on and she was covered by a sickly group of Asadites. ISIS is still concrete fighters, no words. The above half-hour video with the storming of the city is worth watching.
          At 21-45, the Asadite tank turns the tower to the left without seeing anything, and the Ishilovites are sitting at the tank, then one of them climbs onto the tank, opens the hatch and destroys the crew.
          in the 25th minute and after, some of Assad's killed soldiers under the beds were hiding there apparently.
          From the video, even the very spirit of this war can be seen, the difference between the dedication and fanaticism with which the Islamists are fighting, and the mess that the Assad army has.
          1. alone
            alone 20 September 2013 16: 57 New
            +2
            the militants have vast experience in conducting such kind of military operations. almost every operation begins with an explosion at a suicide checkpoint. Many call these people mercenaries. A mercenary will never blow himself up to kill his enemies. These people are crazy fanatics. And they fight for their ideas. It was enough to see how they captured the T-72. by the way, not with desert camouflage. I hope you noticed all this (I think this tank is one of the new deliveries). This enemy is very serious. And apparently the army will have to tinker with them for a long time. Several groups of pickups took the whole city in a very short time. these are professionals in their dirty work.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 20 September 2013 17: 07 New
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              Quote: lonely
              it was enough to see


              ... oh, I'm afraid ... get the maximum of cons laughing because I didn’t shoot something .... wassat
              1. alone
                alone 20 September 2013 17: 26 New
                -1
                and the Uryalkins are on the drum))) thanks to the Vurgun for the video. very instructive material. I personally looked at this video purely from a military point of view.
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 20 September 2013 22: 10 New
                  -1
                  Quote: lonely
                  highly instructive material


                  and the video was removed)))))))) I wonder who)))))
              2. Ruslan_F38
                Ruslan_F38 20 September 2013 19: 20 New
                +2
                Quote: smersh70
                ... oh. I'm afraid ... to get the most out of laughing because I didn’t shoot something .... wassat

                Вы находите этот ролик смешным? Те кто нападет на этот христианский городок - это не люди, это отбросы и фекалии, варвары и дикари. Вы чем то от них отличаетесь? Судя по ролику и по вашим комментам к нему - не сильно. Они убивают солдат, взрывают христианские храмы, превращают жизнь благополучного городка в ад. Молодые солдаты там не прятались под кровати, достойно погибли с оружием в руках защищая свою землю и жизнь. А вот ваши эти сатанисты, исламские свиньи, это зверье - что там делали и как это оправдать? Есть что ли у вас оправдания, герой в берете? Вам лечится нужно и всем кто это поддерживает и вообще оценивает как "крутость". И ничего смешного я в этом не вижу.
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 20 September 2013 23: 22 New
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                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  Those who attack this Christian town are not people, they are scum and feces, barbarians and savages.


                  I completely agree with you .. below I put the video, I hope you have English in order .. see how the Assad troops bombed the church ....

                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  And I see nothing funny in this.


                  but I don’t mean funny because of the video .. you’re wrong ... I’m one of the few who opposes the supporters of Assad ... objectivity requires a comprehensive approach to the analysis of the situation ..... so if you look at the rubbish with Anna-News, then you need to look the other side .... and fewer shortcuts, please, you are not a political officer, but I am not a rookie))))
                  1. Ruslan_F38
                    Ruslan_F38 20 September 2013 23: 51 New
                    +2
                    Quote: smersh70
                    I completely agree with you .. below I put the video, I hope you have English in order .. see how the Assad troops bombed the church ....

                    How quickly your opinion changes - we already agree. The video, apparently the next propaganda of the militants will now see.
                    I mean that I am one of the few who oppose the supporters of Assad ... objectivity requires a comprehensive approach to the analysis of the situation ....

                    that is, you are still a supporter of Satanists and militants? Bravo.
                    Regarding the political officer - of course you do not pull, however, as well as the rookie. But on the radical completely-proved.
          2. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 20 September 2013 18: 02 New
            +4
            Quote: smersh70
            in the 25th minute and after, some of Assad's killed soldiers under the beds were hiding there apparently.
            From the video, even the very spirit of this war can be seen, the difference between the dedication and fanaticism with which the Islamists are fighting, and the mess that the Assad army has.


            Judging by the nature of the commentary, as you understand, are you satisfied with the fact that bloody, without ideological Islamists mercenaries, barbarians and murderers get up with soldiers who defend their homeland? If not, what kind of dedication and concreteness are we talking about? How can one put on one level the bloody murderers and defenders of the homeland who have fulfilled their duty to the homeland? Those who cut off their heads and ate internal organs are good professionals in your opinion, right?
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 20 September 2013 18: 55 New
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              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              Judging by the nature of the comment, as you understand, you are satisfied

              ... I ascertain the facts from the above material ..... let these soldiers better defend their homeland better !!!!!!!!!! and their commanders burst during the regime .... rebuilt the villas ... all generals ..... quit orders and medals ... it would be better to be engaged in combat training and political education .... by the way there were no opposition parties ... there was only the Baath Party ... so they had all the cards in their hands hi
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              Those who cut off their heads and ate internal organs

              can you put a video of the government’s troops .... where they do the same thing ... and one calls mom. and says don’t take the phone off ... right now I’ll fill up the 12 year old boy ...... so everything moved there .. ALL Crossed the red line !!!!!!!!! as in civilian in 18020 .... there are no right and guilty. ALL GUILTY !!!!!!!!!!!!
              1. Ruslan_F38
                Ruslan_F38 20 September 2013 19: 29 New
                +3
                Quote: smersh70
                can you put a video of the government’s troops .... where they do the same thing ... and one calls mom. and says don’t take the phone off ... right now I’ll fill up the 12 year old boy ...... so everything moved there .. ALL Crossed the red line !!!!!!!!! as in civilian in 18020 .... there are no right and guilty. ALL GUILTY !!!!!!!!!!!!


                Once again, I repeat such as you place in a psychiatric hospital. Is everyone to blame ??! Someone called these fighters there? Maybe they bring freedom and democracy there? Better life? Is this their land? Already comparing the soldiers who defend their land and the cannibals of the killers, finding excuses for them, you are on the same level as the Satanists and cannibals. And the truth is there alone and she is on the side of Assad’s troops.
                I will answer you the same way Putin answered Cameron:
                “We must let the Syrian people decide their fate on their own,” Cameron said. “It is necessary to create a transitional government and stop the bloodshed.”

                “I think you will not deny that you should not support people who not only kill their enemies, but open their bodies and eat their insides.” Do you want to support these people? Do you want to supply them with weapons?
                It is clear that sleek British pig did not like Putin’s remark. Therefore, he prefers to pretend that he did not notice this. Standard technique for unethical dialogue. Cutting out a wounded heart and devouring it, brutally raping and killing six girls - this is from the point of view of Cameron and the NATO cesspool - is perfectly normal and correct. Inhumans.
                Read the full article here: http://zergulio.livejournal.com/432060.html
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 20 September 2013 21: 21 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  such as you place in a mental institution


                  if my place is in a hospital, then your place is definitely in a psychiatric hospital laughing
                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  Is this their land?

                  ... without the support of local authorities. we have nothing to do there .. for example, Belarusian partisans and Che guevara ...
                  Quote: Ruslan_F38
                  And the truth is there alone and she is on the side of Assad’s troops.

                  civil war, everyone has their own truth .... hi and their story will judge ......
                  1. Ruslan_F38
                    Ruslan_F38 20 September 2013 22: 12 New
                    +2
                    Quote: smersh70
                    if my place is in a hospital, then your place is definitely in a psychiatric hospital

                    В связи с чем? Я в отличии от вас не восхищаюсь "крутостью", сатанистов и людоедов.

                    ... without the support of local authorities. we have nothing to do there .. for example, Belarusian partisans and Che guevara ...


                    Do you really think so? Are local people supporting mercenaries who blow up their temples (as shown in the video you posted), kill their citizens, children, execute them publicly, introduce Sharia?
                    civil war, everyone has their own truth .... hi and judge their story ......


                    In your opinion, is this a civil war when less than 5% of the country's population is fighting on the side of mercenaries, and the remaining inhuman mercenaries? Rave.
                    1. smersh70
                      smersh70 20 September 2013 22: 58 New
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                      Quote: Ruslan_F38
                      when less than 5% of the country's population is fighting on the mercenary side,

                      Well, as you say, Assad should have won for a long time)))
                      Quote: Ruslan_F38
                      mercenaries who blow their temples

                      here's another video from malulu .. Here's an interview with a nun from the Al Jazeera monastery where she tells that the rebels did not touch anyone and did not touch the mausoleum and left the city.
                      1. Ruslan_F38
                        Ruslan_F38 21 September 2013 00: 06 New
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                        Quote: smersh70
                        here's another video from malulu .. Here's an interview with a nun from the Al Jazeera monastery where she tells that the rebels did not touch anyone and did not touch the mausoleum and left the city.

                        Well, what are you superficial, you are the first movie that you yourself placed (capture of the city), it is also clearly visible in the same place as militants blow up one of the bell towers with a cross, but everywhere it was shown, including on euronews. This is your video yet another propaganda of militants - well, who is the correspondent talking to, with a photo of a mythical nun? Bandits on one of the streets of the city, so what? The gunman in a jeep with a machine gun apparently says - don’t be afraid, people, we won’t touch you, are we for world peace right? Where is your evidence? Before posting this yourself look and analyze carefully, turn on your brains or are you counting on fools? Wrong address.

                        Quote: Ruslan_F38
                        when less than 5% of the country's population is fighting on the mercenary side,

                        Well, as you say, Assad should have won for a long time)))

                        Not funny, 5% Syrians other mercenaries well trained supported by specialists from Israel, Qatar, the United States, Turkey - by the way, special forces secretly takes part in battles with government troops - it has been repeatedly proven including and pro-Western media and religious fanatics and all of their order of one hundred thousand, according to various sources, well, how easy is Assad to deal with them?
                      2. Che
                        Che 21 September 2013 16: 11 New
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                        Surprisingly, the smersh was led to this production by the nuns. Do you seriously believe that the rats are true?
                    2. alone
                      alone 20 September 2013 23: 04 New
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                      Quote: Ruslan_F38
                      In your opinion, is this a civil war when less than 5% of the country's population is fighting on the side of mercenaries, and the remaining inhuman mercenaries? Rave.


                      if only 5% would have fought on the side of the militants, the conflict would have long been resolved by defeating the militants. And I’ll also tell you that the first jihadist militants began to appear there in 2012. Asad had a whole year to pacify the rebellious part of the population .if you say that there, besides the jihadist fanatics, no one is fighting for the Assad, who then fought with him before they appeared? aliens? and yet, enclosing the asad, you will forget one thing. Asad, as the leader of the state, is fully responsible for everything that is happening in his country. As for example, GDP is responsible for Russia, and Obama for America.
                      1. Ruslan_F38
                        Ruslan_F38 21 September 2013 00: 24 New
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                        Quote: lonely
                        if only 5% would have fought on the side of the militants, the conflict would have long been resolved by defeating the militants.


                        I repeat for those who do not see obvious things or do not want to: 5% are Syrians, the rest of the mercenaries are well trained and supported by specialists from Israel, Qatar, the United States and Turkey - by the way, special forces secretly participates in battles with government forces - it has been repeatedly proven, incl. and pro-Western media. There are also religious fanatics. And all of their order is one hundred thousand according to various sources, and how easy is Assad to deal with them?
                        the first jihadist militants began to appear there in 2012. Assad had a whole year to pacify the rebellious part of the population.

                        He has been doing this, and is still doing it - but there is whose support and which one read above. They would only pacify their 5%. Yourself and contradict.
                        if you say that there, besides jihadist fanatics, no one is fighting for the Assad, who then fought with him before they appeared? aliens?

                        I did not say that jihadists are fighting for Assad, why did you get this? The whole conflict was provoked by mercenaries with the help of the usa, israel, turkey and their mercenaries, they were there from the very beginning - I repeat, this is not a civil conflict but an attack by mercenaries on the country, and you can prove it with your own comments - bravo! Be careful and delve into at least what you write. hi
                        and yet, enclosing the asad, you will forget one thing. Asad, as the leader of the state, is fully responsible for everything that is happening in his country. As for example, GDP is responsible for Russia, and Obama for America.
                        - Of course it does, if mercenaries from around the world supported by special services and weapons of Western countries, religious fanatics and other nonhumans attack the country, any normal leader such as a real man and hero Assad who is ready to die for his country and his people will be responsible and fight with enemies. I think and hope that Putin will not abandon his country and will not take responsibility for it in the event of an attack (God forbid, of course, although it is likely that some of these scumbags of the unfinished can fall on Russian soil), just as Bashar Assad did .
                      2. alone
                        alone 21 September 2013 23: 25 New
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                        Quote: Ruslan_F38
                        He has been doing this, and is still doing it - but there is whose support and which one read above. They would only pacify their 5%. Yourself and contradict.


                        this means that they are not 5% .a much more))
              2. smersh70
                smersh70 20 September 2013 23: 03 New
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                Quote: Ruslan_F38
                Already comparing soldiers defending their land



                but this special video for YOU found .... the Assad army poured fire on Maalulya and set fire to houses there with fire. There is a bombing of the very monastery where the nuns said in an interview that the rebels did not touch them and that the Asadists were lying.
                1. Ruslan_F38
                  Ruslan_F38 20 September 2013 23: 45 New
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                  Quote: smersh70
                  but this special video for YOU found .... the Assad army poured fire on Maalulya and set fire to houses there with fire. There is a bombing of the very monastery where the nuns said in an interview that the rebels did not touch them and that the Asadists were lying.


                  In addition to supporting the militants, you bring poorly made videos collected from different fragments - there is our Russian TV channel and the militants shouting for your allah, and when they shoot at a building, it’s clearly not the church. The arrows on the video apparently set themselves and wrote comments. Could you find something better - only hardly - well, Assad soldiers do not kill innocent people, don’t cut their heads, they don’t eat guts - it’s insulting to you. And they shoot at religious objects in case of emergency - respecting both mosques and churches, which you will not get from your Satanists. Minus to you from me - this is not an argument - in vain you posted this fake, and that first clip about the true face of the militants - in vain, showed your true face.
                  1. smersh70
                    smersh70 20 September 2013 23: 57 New
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                    Quote: Ruslan_F38
                    from your satanists

                    ..they are not mine, they are Alkaids smile
                    Quote: Ruslan_F38
                    in vain you

                    I swear, it’s not in vain))) judging by the answers, the video all the same touched you, made you think better !!!!!!!! this is good ....
                    Quote: Ruslan_F38
                    you support the militants

                    where did you get this .... hi I also dealt with bearded men to get up on different barricades ...
                    the fact is that the Wahhabis are HOW the Bolsheviks at the beginning of the 20th century .. if you give up the slack - they immediately fill up that poverty that remained unfilled .... so Assad slapped the beginning of all this tragedy ... and put it all to it father (I already wrote a lot here about the execution of communists in 83 by his father, but in the east this is not forgotten) ....
                    1. Ruslan_F38
                      Ruslan_F38 21 September 2013 00: 46 New
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                      Quote: smersh70
                      ..they are not mine, they are Alkaids

                      Well, apparently, and your time to promote al-Qaeda for her fighters hi

                      Quote: Ruslan_F38
                      in vain you

                      I swear, it’s not in vain))) judging by the answers, the video all the same touched you, made you think better !!!!!!!! this is good ....

                      Of course it hurt - the atrocities of the militants you defend and the mockery of Christian shrines cannot leave a normal person indifferent. As for thinking, this is my normal state, which is why I advise you. And henceforth I recommend you not to post artificially mounted videos and cheap evidence, of course, in addition to the first video that shows the barbaric capture of the city, the killing of innocent soldiers and the destruction of a Christian shrine. hi
                      where did you get this .... hi with bearded men I also had to get up on different barricades ...
                      Now I don’t believe it, I rather believe that it’s one barricade, above you have clearly proved your preferences hi
                      so Assad slapped the beginning of all this tragedy ... and put all this to his father (I already wrote a lot here about the execution of communists in 83 by his father, but in the east this is not forgotten) ....
                      once again I tell you do not confuse what is happening in Syria now, and this is clearly a planned attack from outside, with what was with Assad's father - this is incommensurable. hi
          3. Che
            Che 21 September 2013 16: 07 New
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            Ruslan, I think that Muslims themselves must be cleansed of these Wahhabi imperfections. And the world community should help them in this matter, and not rats, as is happening now.
    2. washi
      washi 20 September 2013 13: 00 New
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      In my humble opinion, for Russia, for its further policy in the region, it is extremely important to fix the role of Israel as one of the partners in the aggression. Along with others, namely our main well-wishers in the region - Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc. It is necessary not only to put them in the same boat - they have already been sitting in it for decades - but also to demonstrate this as clearly and unequivocally as possible. Well, America is bombing Arabs with Saudi money, using Israeli airspace for this. The picture needs to be finished, made voluminous and fixed, so that the role and efforts of each could be read without prompters even by not very politically competent viewers.
      So everything is stored on the territory of neighboring states. They are being treated and armed.
      In Our Chechen fled to Georgia, then treated in Turkey and Ukraine.
      Thanks Baku. They were not allowed through their territory.
  5. Petrix
    Petrix 20 September 2013 11: 25 New
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    Quote: GreatRussia
    This is called application practice.

    Yeah. We will help the Syrian people! Our missiles will fly in line with the NATO Tomahawks. Let's bomb the neighborhoods captured by terrorists. Syria is just waiting for this. Some stupidity.
  • Altona
    Altona 20 September 2013 09: 17 New
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    Aerial reconnaissance, a flag demonstration, designation of airborne forces - that’s all we can do now ... The hospital and emergency fleet are still in case of a humanitarian catastrophe ... In general, our main war in the media field is to expose the arsonists of the war from MI6, the CIA and Mossad, who take fake trump cards from their sleeves and throw them on the UN table (old Soviet shells watered with sarin and other lies) ...
  • Denis_Rossiya
    Denis_Rossiya 20 September 2013 09: 22 New
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    Красивое рассуждение на тему Если-бы, да как бы.....Автор забыл упомянуть про Турцию, которая тоже рвется показать как сильно любит "папу". И если уж начнется полномасштабная война. то сюда сбегутся все кому не лень....и каждый в поисках своей выгоды. Также хотел напомнить...что авиация израиля провела ряд успешных вылазок на территорию сирии...из чего делаем вывод: либо скопление ПВО Сирии у израильских границ это миф, либо оно не эффективно.
    1. alexng
      alexng 20 September 2013 09: 54 New
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      Or they were allowed to bomb false targets, while they did not light up their air defense positions, but were held for a large skuher. Go and get it right now.
    2. Gur
      Gur 20 September 2013 10: 45 New
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      Turkey loves dad but it’s not easy for them to say how because climbing on forks against Russia Turkey will not quarrel with Russia it’s extremely unprofitable
  • a52333
    a52333 20 September 2013 09: 52 New
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    It seems to me that we need to focus on the cause, not the consequences: financially bleed sysyya. And so - the struggle with the consequences, but not the cause.
    1. Petrix
      Petrix 20 September 2013 11: 27 New
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      Quote: a52333
      It seems to me that we need to focus on the cause, not the consequences: financially bleed sysyya. And so - the struggle with the consequences, but not the cause.

      Exactly. This is what Putin is doing. See the root.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 20 September 2013 18: 54 New
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      Quote: a52333
      financially bleed sysyya

      It will not work out for one simple reason: the Saudis are paying for this war. And their oil fountain will not dry up soon, much to our regret.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 20 September 2013 11: 05 New
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    The State Department, with its clumsy ponds, drove the United States into a corner from which they do not know how to get out. America does not need to participate in this war, they even understand their thugs. Financing, yes. Arms supplies? Of course! Business is business. Participation in military operations? No . Exhaustion of investment costs does not materialize. For America's business. But those who press on the Yankees, they will have a lot of things.

    PS: A sensible article in general.
  • eplewke
    eplewke 20 September 2013 12: 23 New
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    the fact that they drag some kind of provocation is zero doubt! She will be! The question is whether we will be ready for these provocations! And will our diplomats be ready? I hope that Machiavelli in the service of Putin will calculate everything ... winked
  • StrateG
    StrateG 20 September 2013 12: 28 New
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    This is all theory, but as practice shows, everything is accurate, but vice versa.
  • amp
    amp 20 September 2013 12: 39 New
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    In fact, it is high time to organize in CA and Qatar everything that they organize in Syria.
    Or in another scenario: to send there simply saboteurs. Let the pipelines and oil derricks explode. And there and under the guise of blowing up a Kator gas liquefaction plant ..... then present them with an ultimatum: hands off Syria, or wake up fighting at home. Best defense is attack.
    By the way, Iran will help us very well in this.
    1. alone
      alone 20 September 2013 23: 07 New
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      and how saboteurs get into sa and qatar? do you even know that these countries do not have land borders. you know that in qatar and sa, the Iranians are, as it were, persons-non-grata. they are allowed into sa only during the hajj. and they are watching all over.
  • Horst78
    Horst78 20 September 2013 12: 39 New
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    and we cannot look at it otherwise than through the slot in the sight of a Kalashnikov assault rifle ...
    Milo smile You need to remember this wording laughing
    And then
    One way or another, but these bad regimes violate the rights of women and gays
    let them then try to say that we offend gays wassat
  • washi
    washi 20 September 2013 13: 13 New
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    Сирия готова поставить свою химию на контроль сторонним странам. Одна из стран - Россия. Одной "международное" "сообщество" доверять не может. Вывод: эта страна не должна поставлять оружие боевикам и оказывать им моральную поддержку.
    From the EU, almost everyone (where there is an armed forces) got dirty, except Germany, but they will not allow it (they will sing and there will be a EUROPE'S NIGHTMARE). British dominions omitted.
    There are Latinos.
    Although I would like the Germans.
  • T-130
    T-130 20 September 2013 13: 37 New
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    There was an interesting article yesterday, so if you believe it, then only one diesel submarine alone can take out the entire American AUG completely. So consider how you can answer, another question is how many such boats we have that can withstand the enemy and whether they exist at all today! And if you transfer such boats to Iran, this is a guarantee that not a single tanker will leave the Persian Gulf and not one will enter aircraft carrier, naturally with proper training for boat crews
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  • Horst78
    Horst78 20 September 2013 16: 09 New
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    It seemed to me, or is someone a troll? what
  • Stepnogorets
    Stepnogorets 20 September 2013 18: 22 New
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    Quote: amp
    In fact, it is high time to organize in CA and Qatar everything that they organize in Syria.
    Or in another scenario: to send there simply saboteurs. Let the pipelines and oil derricks explode. And there and under the guise of blowing up a Kator gas liquefaction plant ..... then present them with an ultimatum: hands off Syria, or wake up fighting at home. Best defense is attack.
    By the way, Iran will help us very well in this.

    100%
  • StrateG
    StrateG 20 September 2013 19: 00 New
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    It seemed to me, or is someone a troll?

    Someone has an itch in one place. I look deliberately cons sets.