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Analytical program "However" with Mikhail Leontiev 18 September 2013

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Everyone knows how we love the Old Man - Alexander Grigorievich Lukashenko, our closest ally. Leader of fraternal Belarus. Naturally it is a shame when, between the brothers get up, forgive, potash fertilizers. Recall.

Russians: Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich, Suleiman Kerimov, Uralkali’s main owner, Alexander Voloshin, head of the board of directors of the same company, and Vladislav Baumgertner, Chairman of the supervisory board of Belarus Potash Company, were invited by the Belarusian Prime Minister Myasnikovich to the conflict talks in August originated between Uralkali and Belaruskali. One Baumgertner was able to arrive, who was arrested on August 8 by 26 on charges of abuse of official authority.

That the Old Man is cool is well known. However, the taking of hostages in official negotiations is too much. Even between brothers, not that fraternity. So what should have happened to such passions? Our Uralkali together with Belaruskali - and this, by the way, almost half of the world market - have been trading very successfully for many years - through the joint order created by 50 at 50 Belarusian Potash Company (BPC).

Supervisory Board which led the captured hostage.

And everything went well. But then prices began to subside, the Old Man began to lack money ... Here it should be noted that Belaruskali is the largest donor of the Belarusian budget. Well, more important than for us Gazprom. In December last year, Lukashenko, by his own decree, permits the shipment of the product to bypass the joint venture. The results of the initiative, by the way, are clearly visible on the graph. Partners beg dad not to tear down the market, cancel the decree. But it was not there. 22 July The Old Man changes the director of a joint venture with his own will, note the joint-stock company.

Actually after this, a joint stock company loses all meaning, as well as joint activities. Uralkali announces termination of cooperation. Here the nightmare begins. Belarusians do not have their own trading network, there is no time to create it. And half of the market is closed for them.

The budget is cracking, turning into pure potassium.

Give me more! More! .. Have mercy, save, save.

And who will answer for this all ?! And nothing personal. Especially against Russia! The problem is that telling Alexander Grigorievich about the market, the world situation is meaningless. What market? What is the market? Alexander G. we have like the Lord. He commands the elements.

- I'm increasingly thinking about conversion.
- What?
- Everything in the world. Including love. If at the end the fire of feelings flashes, it means that it was not God who lit it, but man. And therefore, we are equal.
- Oh, here you are competing with someone ...

In such a difficult competition, we are unlikely to help Alexander Grigorievich. Which, by the way, does not prevent our presidents from conducting joint military exercises "West-2013". The main thing - do not confuse potassium with our Union and defense cooperation. Separate, as already mentioned, flies from cutlets.
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  1. Garrin
    Garrin 19 September 2013 09: 59 New
    87
    Russians: Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich, Suleiman Kerimov, the main owner of Uralkali, Alexander Voloshin,

    It is a pity that they were not "tied" either.
    1. Crocodile
      Crocodile 19 September 2013 10: 17 New
      47
      Old Man is cool, but not stupid!
      Seen for the case went to the representatives of the joint venture!
      I personally heard more than one speech by Lukashenko, and I can’t say that a person does not understand the significance of market relations!
      But the old man does not tolerate thieves, neither his own nor anyone else's!
      Quote: Garrin
      It is a pity that they were not "tied" either.

      FATTY +
      1. Ejik_026
        Ejik_026 19 September 2013 12: 53 New
        28
        In fact, these cadres started the fraud with shipments. Moreover, spreading rumors that Belarus had no potash fertilizers and everyone should switch to UralKali. The budget of the Republic of Belarus didn’t receive the money, the shares fell, then they would be bought by the Urals Potassium = Normal raid capture for the Russian Federation.
        We need it?
      2. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 20 September 2013 00: 00 New
        +4
        Quote: Crocodile
        But the old man does not tolerate thieves, neither his own nor anyone else's!

        For this, the parahatites ganged up! They are trying to put into the heads of the Russians out of a subtlety that the fight against Russian thieves is an insult to Russia!
    2. Docent1984
      Docent1984 19 September 2013 11: 18 New
      21
      Especially the first and third. If only they immediately "tower" with the execution within 12 hours - no matter how much g *** on immediately floated away.
    3. Normal
      Normal 19 September 2013 12: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: Garrin

      It is a pity that they were not "tied" either.

      And Leontiev as an accomplice laughing
      1. experienced
        experienced 19 September 2013 12: 46 New
        +1
        Let's take a sober view of things. All "prosperity" of Belarus is kept exclusively at the expense of Russia, I am not against the fact that we help our neighbors, I am against the fact that the "business executive" Lukashenko is promoting himself on this. There is a lot of "bubbles" of happiness here about how he protects the country from Russian oligarchs, but remember how he sold Russian oil to the West, dumping Russia with combines and tractors .... Now it looks like he overflowed the cup of patience winked Everyone is outraged that Ukraine sucks from two queens, but did not see any indignation from yesterday’s news in one comment that Lukashenko takes a loan of $ 1,3 billion from China. hi
        The same people praise Leontiev and sing him hosanas for his programs and immediately begin to despise him for this program. Leontiev is a journalist and be aware that you do not like not the journalist Leontiev, but the news that he took as the basis of the program. hi
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 19 September 2013 16: 37 New
          +5
          Quote: seasoned
          Leontiev journalist and be aware that you do not like not the journalist Leontiev, but the news that he took as the basis of the program


          Yes, how to say. How to place accents, a lot depends on this. You can completely change the essence.
          Remember, the old joke about how Leonid Brezhnev and Jimmy Carter ran a race out of sports interest? Very instructive.

          Old Brezhnev barely reached the finish line, and Carter, who was younger, was ahead of the competitor without any effort. It was interesting not so much to observe the process as to read the headlines in different countries the next day. The American press published the headline "Carter came first, and Brezhnev - the very last." Soviet journalists were more modest. "Leonid Ilyich confidently came second in the track and field race, and weakling Carter was completely exhausted and as a result finished penultimate."
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 19 September 2013 14: 55 New
        +8
        Quote: Normal
        And Leontiev as an accomplice laughing

        Leontiev is still a dog. Wherever they say, there and gavchet.
      3. Orik
        Orik 19 September 2013 15: 07 New
        +5
        In-in, so as not to say "Donai" type leontiev, Khazin trust in these individuals is not. Here is a different description of the conflict http://ruskline.ru/analitika/2013/09/12/kerimovwina_rossii/ but who let the moysh on television with this lie ?!
    4. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 19 September 2013 12: 38 New
      17
      Quote: Garrin
      Russians: Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich, Suleiman Kerimov, the main owner of Uralkali, Alexander Voloshin,

      It is a pity that they were not "tied" either.


      These are not the dad, but the niches of "rights guardians" should have long ago not only bind, but also confiscate the loot and send to Siberia forever - to spill hemp.
      1. matross
        matross 19 September 2013 16: 39 New
        +5
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        "The guardians' rights" should have long ago not only bind, but also confiscate the looted and send to Siberia forever - to spill hemp.

        Yes, with great pleasure !! At least to Siberia, at least when trying to escape! Yes, such things are not done without a special command "from there" ... caste, bleat, untouchable ghouls!
      2. Hudo
        Hudo 19 September 2013 16: 53 New
        12
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        These are not the dad, but the niches of "rights guardians" should have long ago not only bind, but also confiscate the loot and send to Siberia forever - to spill hemp.


        I live in the Russian ancestral lands, which are now called "Ukraine" due to some idiotic misunderstanding. And this is how I see what happened from here - early VVP calmed down after the landing of Khodorkovsky and rested on its laurels. Oh early !!! What kind of integration (to my regret) can we talk about if the Dvorkovichs with the Chmyrkovichs, the Kerimovs and other Suleimans, together with the Voloshin and Baumgertners, ruin all its (GDP) integration initiatives to the root with their Gesheft? Anything that you don’t say sounds unconvincing after this event and the reactions to it. Or did the false Dmitry Anatolyich Medvedev get scared? Or is there not enough space in the sewing workshop? Or Mother Siberia cannot provide the scope of work for hard labor? Looking at this circus is disgusting in my heart, very disgusting.
    5. My address
      My address 19 September 2013 12: 52 New
      +3
      Garrin - it is a pity that these were not "tied" either.


      Here is a comment so a comment!
      Before you, Igor, hi !!!
    6. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 19 September 2013 12: 58 New
      +4
      And on the other hand I’ll come: well, the rest were lucky, otherwise they would have gotten too.
    7. Vadivak
      Vadivak 19 September 2013 15: 09 New
      19
      Quote: Garrin
      It is a pity that they were not "tied" either.


      Misha sticks his nose where the dog doesn’t shit, he found the Russians, isn’t it yourself disgusting?

      Uralkala founders

      Kaliha finance ltd (Cyprus)
      The Bank of New York International Nominees (United States)
      Becounioco holdings limited (Cyprus)
      Aerellia investtments limited (Cyprus)
      Madura Holding limited (Cyprus)
    8. drop
      drop 19 September 2013 22: 39 New
      +2
      Igor, I agree with you. Those three in front of the detainee, in the photo, it is also desirable to detain and bring charges in full.
  2. domokl
    domokl 19 September 2013 10: 01 New
    +5
    So far, I see only a talking room on both sides. There are no real actions. Besides arrest. So there’s nothing to discuss yet.
    1. Nick
      Nick 19 September 2013 10: 57 New
      +7
      Quote: domokl
      So far, I see only a talking room on both sides. There are no real actions. Besides arrest. So there’s nothing to discuss yet.

      And I can note that despite all this fuss around fertilizers, the military community continues to strengthen.
    2. Mairos
      Mairos 19 September 2013 12: 43 New
      +2
      Well .. like it's just a talking shop. They took away 22% of Uralkali from Kerimov - which is not a result. True, in favor of another oligarch - but this is a separate showdown. I advise you to read Khazin.
      1. alone
        alone 19 September 2013 19: 36 New
        +3
        there is an ordinary section of the sphere of influence. from the fact that they took away from Kerimov 22% of the ordinary citizen from this, not a penny of profit. One thief replaced another.
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 19 September 2013 14: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: domokl
      So far, I see only a talking room on both sides. There are no real actions. Besides arrest. So there’s nothing to discuss yet.

      When such full names are in co-owners, they are unlikely to introduce us to the course of the investigation. Or do you believe in independent media?
      1. 31231
        31231 19 September 2013 20: 18 New
        +1
        And what can the defendants not publish the circumstances of the case for resonance in the media ?! If they are certainly right.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 19 September 2013 21: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: 31231
          And what can the defendants not publish the circumstances of the case for resonance in the media ?! If they are certainly right.

          Of course they are. Judging by the surnames, it simply cannot be otherwise!
  3. Max otto
    Max otto 19 September 2013 10: 02 New
    +4
    Some kind of provocation. Causal ties were broken, at first a mysterious drain of shares in Switzerland was discovered, and then Lukashenko issued a decree.
    Belaruskali is the largest donor of the Belarusian budget. Well, more important than Gazprom for us.

    Yes, Gazprom is not important for Russia, of course. Labuda.
  4. DMB 1995
    DMB 1995 19 September 2013 10: 05 New
    44
    Old Man is the only one in the post-Soviet space who puts a squat on a thief who calls himself successful businessmen.
    And what is planting this scum is for him sincere respect and respect.
    1. Fantomac
      Fantomac 19 September 2013 10: 16 New
      12
      Lukoshenko in the Emperors of All Russia.
      1. Crocodile
        Crocodile 19 September 2013 10: 29 New
        18
        About that, real, LOVE for its LEADER, which ordinary Belarusians show in relation to Lukashenko, we can only dream of our GDP! Belarusians have long advocated a closer union, but do not want to connect themselves with our real power!
        That's where you feel a real sense of returning to the USSR!
        Yes, they live poorly, but they have everything of their own!
        Amazed by the presence of toothpaste pearls - 10 types!
        And the warm attitude of ordinary people - even aroused envy!
        Quote: Fantomac
        Lukoshenko in Emperors of All Russia
        1. goldfinger
          goldfinger 19 September 2013 15: 35 New
          18
          Neighbor is Belarusian. I don’t want to sound like Batkin’s singing along, but very, very many respect him, in spite of his “cockroaches in my head”. We see how we live and our neighbors in the CIS. A small example.
          Belarusians managed to reach the Soviet level in life expectancy - 70,6 years. And the amount of real incomes of the population exceeded the level of 1990 even by 3,1 times, the real size of wages - 3,2 times, the real amount of pensions assigned - 3,0 times.
          In the list of countries by the Human Development Index (HDI), Belarus ranks 65th out of 187 countries and 1st out of the CIS countries (2011 data).

          The level of social gap in income of Belarusians fell almost to the Soviet level, amounting to 5,6 times versus 6,6 times. For comparison: in Russia, the income differentiation coefficient in 2011 was 16,1. The share of the population with incomes below the subsistence level has decreased over the years of Lukashenko’s reign by 10 times - from 53% to 5,2%. The country managed to get out of complete poverty and bankruptcy, and this is a huge achievement.

          The registered unemployment rate decreased from 2,4% to 0,6%, and in general, the social rate improved significantly compared to the 90s.

          For example, in Russia the number of families that received housing and improved their living conditions in 2011 amounted to 244 thousand (or 171 families / 100 thousand people). In Belarus - 47,7 thousand (503 families / 100 thousand people) - the figure is 3 times higher! At the same time, the expenditures of the consolidated budget of Belarus in 2010 amounted to 32,2% of GDP (in Russia - 39,2% of GDP). That already speaks of either a greater social orientation of the Belarusian state, or a lesser degree of plundering of the state treasury. But rather both that, and another at the same time.
          In more detail - http://igpr.ru/lukashenko1994-2011
          And they invest a lot in the republic. Unfortunately, Russian capital wants to work according to "Kerimov's" schemes - "bought - sucked - resold", but we don't need it. And the fact that all exports go to Russia is a slight delusion. 60% goes to the EU. But there is also Lat. America, Asia and others. For example, our light industry covers the entire police force and the Bundeswehr in Germany. And on how many products sold in the EU are labels of all sorts of "Dolce and Gabbano", etc.? Especially female "personal belongings". So we are working. Thank you guys for your understanding.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 19 September 2013 16: 02 New
            +6
            Quote: goldfinger
            And the fact that all exports go to Russia is a little misleading. 60% goes to the EU.

            UralKaliy-BelarusKaliy products are regularly shipped to Norway through Klaipeda, and not only to Norway.
            The question is why Kerimov and Co. Doesn't load Russian ports?
            1. 31231
              31231 19 September 2013 20: 33 New
              0
              To Norway ?! Hmm, for some reason I watched some expert on TV and he said that the largest consumers of our potash fertilizers were China and India.
          2. 31231
            31231 19 September 2013 20: 30 New
            0
            I didn’t quite understand about housing for families ?! Budget ?! Or is everything new ?!
            Regarding the budget: can I give you more details ?! Whose budget is it and what are the expense items and revenue.
            1. goldfinger
              goldfinger 19 September 2013 22: 34 New
              +2
              Neighbor Belarus. This is from your site. Open http://igpr.ru/lukashenko1994-2011. A huge article with numbers, graphs and other calculations. I was even surprised at such meticulousness. For two years from 2011 to 2013 something has changed, our ruble has collapsed. But people, by and large, did not feel this at the level of their lives, s / n even grew from $ 500 to $ 700. Just the numbers in the currency exchangers increased. Currency is exchanged quite calmly. The devaluation even brought some benefit to the economy, but it is a long song. Sincerely.
      2. blonde
        blonde 19 September 2013 11: 50 New
        +9
        I wanted to put a plus, but I have not earned it yet
        1. Djozz
          Djozz 19 September 2013 14: 55 New
          +3
          I'll put it for you.
  5. Cpa
    Cpa 19 September 2013 10: 06 New
    15
    It didn’t occur to Leontiev that Lukashenko could have provoked such actions. You read him, it’s just like a very tight old man. It doesn’t happen, even Bush had analysts. Hasty actions happen right after an emergency and provocations.
  6. Stiletto
    Stiletto 19 September 2013 10: 09 New
    36
    Minus Leontyev - for the first time in a long time. You can't sell talent so opportunistically. It is clear that loot triumphs over evil. It is clear that there is an order that needs to be beautifully worked out. But the fraternal peoples should not be "brought to the bathhouse" in the battles of the oligarchs.
    1. Crocodile
      Crocodile 19 September 2013 10: 32 New
      14
      Quote: Stiletto
      Minusna Leontiev - for the first time in a long time.

      Yes, Misha is clearly wrong here! negative
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 19 September 2013 11: 30 New
        13
        Quote: Crocodile
        Yes, Misha is clearly wrong here!

        He only says what he was allowed to do. But at the same time, at the very beginning, he nevertheless hung out the faces of these well-known and now out of court thieves. What is called "smart enough" lol
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 19 September 2013 12: 46 New
          13
          I fully support. Honest business performed by Dvorkovich ... laughing wassat "Mom, I am dying in polished shoes" ... And the angelic Kerimov suddenly sells his share. Obviously Baumgertner said something about his crystal honest work ...
    2. Genur
      Genur 19 September 2013 12: 31 New
      +5
      Constantly - a nose in the wind .... Has become a type of Zhirinovsky.
    3. Mairos
      Mairos 19 September 2013 12: 45 New
      +5
      Salvage creates evil, and does not win. Banks are the basis and source of crap in the modern world.
  7. Strashila
    Strashila 19 September 2013 10: 13 New
    17
    To hide our homegrown oligarchs in relation to their patronymic behave like occupiers with the connivance of the authorities, out of habit, they decided to brew their porridge in someone else's bowler ... got it on their ears and began to wrap their snot on their fists ... the authorities would have no prejudice to deal with the matter , the same climbed ... current is another state there its laws that need to be respected, but the strength of habit ... its own drum.
  8. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 19 September 2013 10: 13 New
    +3
    Such a squabble between fraternal countries will not bring any good to both sides. Moreover, after all, the republics that choose their development path are looking at this squabble: if in the customs union such squabbles do I need to go there? Therefore, the Russian oligarchs and the Belarusian leadership need to be respected partners!
  9. dmb
    dmb 19 September 2013 10: 16 New
    26
    Interestingly, Leontyev forgot who Voloshin is. But I recall how angrily he convicted him, and, horror, even said that he was the right hand of the devil Berezovsky. But today, apparently, Voloshin has become a bright soul and has taken care, along with Dvorkovich and the other well-being of the Russian people. Only this can explain the pathos of Leontiev's article. It’s hard to understand what it’s really getting into the affairs of a sovereign state
    1. Normal
      Normal 19 September 2013 12: 42 New
      12
      Quote: dmb
      Interestingly, Leontyev forgot who Voloshin is.

      Of course not. We began to forget who Leontyev is. And he is a pro-government nightingale that they order will sing ... and even dance ....
  10. patriot2
    patriot2 19 September 2013 10: 19 New
    +6
    A thief should be in prison, Sharapov!
    V.V. Vysotsky from the movie
  11. Asgard
    Asgard 19 September 2013 10: 19 New
    30
    Misha Leontyev says "crap" ... (tame Kremlin dog))))
    Kerimov, fulfilled the will of his masters, tried to get Belorusskali into his own and Voloshin's hands, it was from him that the "negotiators" came and offered the Old Man money))))
    Dvorkovich and Sechin blundered something there, but shut up .....
    Old Man is far from a stupid person .....
    And this landing on the "ass" is a signal to the rest that the position is shaky))))
    Leontiev - did not understand this .....
    1. Normal
      Normal 19 September 2013 13: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: Asgard
      Misha Leontyev says "crap" ... (tame Kremlin dog))))

      Right, the namesake. As always... drinks
      1. Djozz
        Djozz 19 September 2013 14: 58 New
        +2
        They wouldn’t let another on a cannon shot on TV.
  12. ing
    ing 19 September 2013 10: 20 New
    +6
    All the time, we are told through the media the point of view of Uralkali, and this is not all of Russia. Can someone give a link to the point of view of Belarus? Thanks in advance
    1. Petergut
      Petergut 19 September 2013 12: 18 New
      +2
      Can someone give a link to the point of view of Belarus?

      http://news.tut.by/politics/363351.html
  13. pensioner
    pensioner 19 September 2013 10: 25 New
    +9
    I noticed this. When amers Bout tied up our very actively tried to rescue him. The hype was good. And then - silence. Or almost silence. It is understandable that oligarchs and "successful managers" do not mind sitting on the bunk a little (to begin with ...). Did they come to this at the top too?
    1. IGS
      IGS 19 September 2013 12: 38 New
      +2
      This is not amers and our Booth. This is a dispute between business entities. laughing
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 19 September 2013 13: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: IGS
        This is a dispute between business entities.

        Hmmm ... Well, if THIS is just a dispute, then I can imagine WHAT will happen if abuse starts. In our case, disputes somehow usually end with her ...
        1. Ustas
          Ustas 20 September 2013 11: 48 New
          0
          Quote: retired
          WHAT will happen if abuse starts. In our case, disputes somehow usually end with her ...

          I boil for any, if only all of our oligarchs and theirs were transplanted. Since Putin only stopped at Khodorkovsky, then let Old Man transplant everyone else.
          Respect Lukoshenko!
  14. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 19 September 2013 10: 27 New
    +9
    [b] And everything went well. But then prices began to sag, Old Man was not enough money .. [b]
    Still used data on prices ... [/ b] bully

    [b] ... The budget is cracking, turning into pure potassium ... [/ b]
    And what about the budget of the Russian Federation with a huge surplus?

    Old Man, maybe he went too far ... But his motives are clear.
    But in our own government, only "... blah blah blah ..." are heard and seen. And how did the monopolists get alarmed when they first decided to freeze tariffs? I do not mention the "guardians" of the "Russian land" ...
  15. kostik1301
    kostik1301 19 September 2013 10: 36 New
    +4
    Stop blaspheming Belarusians, a mongrel not worthless ....
  16. Koronik
    Koronik 19 September 2013 10: 41 New
    +5
    Prior to that, M. Leontyev respected, he is a political observer, but here the issue is controversial between the two entities. It is a pity that someone wants to drive a wedge between two fraternal peoples.
    1. Genur
      Genur 19 September 2013 12: 36 New
      +1
      Apparently, the old WEDGES became dull and had to be sharpened.
  17. bistrov.
    bistrov. 19 September 2013 10: 49 New
    +5
    In Ukraine, the nationalist media immediately used this event to cool the Customs Union. Like, Russia spits on the interests of Belarus. That's how they turned it over. And imagine, many believe.
  18. Kubanets
    Kubanets 19 September 2013 10: 49 New
    18
    Ba familiar all faces! Kerimov Voloshin Dvorkovich And behind them, probably DAM It is a pity Batko did not tie the whole gang. They fully deserved
  19. treskoed
    treskoed 19 September 2013 10: 53 New
    +8
    Apparently Belarus (Lukashenko) is not for sale or bought !!!
  20. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 19 September 2013 10: 54 New
    +3
    How one-sided, don't you find? The Old Man is to blame for everything, but all sorts of butler and kerimov somewhere near the edge remained, oh how! Waiting for the real facts of the batch, Well, a friend can’t be suddenly.
  21. labendik
    labendik 19 September 2013 10: 56 New
    -23
    Here, a rare case when Leontyev is right.
    1. Ustas
      Ustas 20 September 2013 11: 51 New
      0
      Quote: labendik
      Here, a rare case when Leontyev is right.

      Is your last name accidentally not Karimov or Dvorkovich?
  22. sxn278619
    sxn278619 19 September 2013 11: 02 New
    -8
    The great economist Lukashenko.
    2011 inflation of 300%.
    2012 - inflation of 42%.
    1. andr1966a
      andr1966a 19 September 2013 12: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: sxn278619
      The great economist Lukashenko.
      2011 inflation of 300%.
      2012 - inflation of 42%.

      if you remove oil from Russia. gas. then inflation in Russia will be 10000%
      1. fisherman
        fisherman 19 September 2013 20: 00 New
        +2
        if you remove oil from Russia. gas. then inflation in Russia will be 10000%


        wow, really?
        Are you probably an economist? :)
        1. 31231
          31231 19 September 2013 20: 36 New
          +1
          Og. Bernarke learned Russian and is chatting here with us.
  23. pa_nik
    pa_nik 19 September 2013 11: 02 New
    +3
    You shouldn't be like that, Mikhail. If the “locals” have all their interests tightly intertwined with the “young Russian finintern-business-oligarchius”, this does not mean that one can apply one's “liberal” views to the neighbors, whom this karosta has not yet overtaken. sad
  24. gansik
    gansik 19 September 2013 11: 09 New
    +6
    A thief should sit in jail! A.G. Lukashenko +10005000
    1. alexng
      alexng 19 September 2013 12: 28 New
      +5
      And the rest of the Russian oligarchs do not have a joint business in Belarus? If not, then very sorry.
      1. alone
        alone 19 September 2013 19: 41 New
        +4
        wassat do you want Old Man to put all the Russian oligarchs in?))) after that they won’t come to Belarus for a cannon shot. He’ll put him in the air, I’ll not regret anyone
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 19 September 2013 19: 49 New
          +6
          Quote: lonely
          Do you want Old Man to put all the Russian oligarchs in?)
          IMHO then the grateful Russians will pay him the whole budget in a crinkle. And separately they will be thrown off for the lifelong maintenance of these pretzels laughing
          1. fisherman
            fisherman 19 September 2013 20: 03 New
            +1
            then the grateful Russians will pay him the whole budget in a squad. And separately they will be thrown off for the lifelong maintenance of these pretzels


            I also hope for this, as well as the fact that not too much will ask for it :)
  25. apro
    apro 19 September 2013 11: 15 New
    +2
    All that AGLukashenko did on potassium is most likely a contractual action, if he arrests Mr Putin and the government is silent, it means that it was conceived.
  26. uhu189
    uhu189 19 September 2013 11: 17 New
    22
    Yes, only Mr. Leontiev for some reason is silent that Uralkali brought down fertilizer prices with his sole decision to exit the joint venture, and before that he transferred all the assets to himself, letting Belarusians go around the world. And before that, they insistently offered the Old Man to sell Belaruskali at a not very market price to say the least. Apparently later they tried to overcome it, but they did not take into account a little that they were dealing with a normal peasant, and not with anyone of their kind. Therefore, I’m for the Old Man here with all my heart — at least someone should understand our thieves. Speaking of Dvorkovich - the kid made a formidable statement to Belarus - he threatened to cut oil supplies, resume business with the resale of Russian oil products to Belarus and a bunch of consequences ... But in the end, Sechin sent him away and refused to reduce oil supplies, no one cares did not renew, and Karimov sold his stake in Uralkali. And the dvorkovich shut up. And now, after that, will anyone argue that the Old Man did this without the go-ahead from the Kremlin?
    1. Skarte
      Skarte 19 September 2013 11: 48 New
      +5
      By the way, yes. I think the action was planned and joint, ours seemed to mumble something and shut up, the media scored. We leaked for business, another call, your ass, for dirty deeds we will not save. Where did the Karimov disappear, not really in London shed to friends oligakhrenam ???
      If the ass was important, they would have pulled it out with all the truths and not the truths, and here it is silent, dispersed the gang-watering can.
      1. uhu189
        uhu189 19 September 2013 11: 53 New
        +3
        He cannot blame London, he is declared wanted by the interpol. He’s not going anywhere from Russia.
    2. Akhtuba73
      Akhtuba73 19 September 2013 12: 12 New
      +4
      Quote: uhu189
      And now, after that, will anyone argue that the Old Man did this without the go-ahead from the Kremlin?

      Given the relations that have developed between countries, and even more so presidents, such unilateral actions are in principle impossible. Lukashenko is not so stupid that he would slice the head of a Russian oligarch off his shoulder. But for jointly knocking this hornet's nest, special thanks. There are still places where you need to cheat, you are welcome ...
  27. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 19 September 2013 11: 20 New
    +6
    I think Lukashenko is right .. Insolent to see these scumbags at the end .. And in Russia you need to !!! But alas, they dug too deeply into Russia with your fingers .. here you need a scalpel (and it will hurt ..)
  28. Apollo
    Apollo 19 September 2013 11: 26 New
    +9
    I don’t understand one thing. Mikhail Leontyev pluses for what ?! winked For working out the bread of the oligarchs. am

  29. Lech
    Lech 19 September 2013 11: 46 New
    +7
    Apollon, I agree with you, what Leontiev carries for garbage ... It seems like a normal man. Not him
    paid ...?
    1. slaventi
      slaventi 19 September 2013 12: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: Lyokha
      Apollon, I agree with you, what Leontiev carries for garbage ... It seems like a normal man. Not him
      paid ...?

      What is interesting is "such garbage" as for Belarus and Lukashenko, he has been carrying from the beginning of the creation of "However". He seems to be an objective journalist, but for some reason his objectivity does not apply to the old man.
    2. alexng
      alexng 19 September 2013 12: 34 New
      +4
      Quote: Lyokha
      Apollon, I agree with you, what Leontiev carries for garbage ... It seems like a normal man. Not him
      paid ...?


      It seems to play the role of temporary SHOR. Or maybe it's a planned trick?
    3. alone
      alone 19 September 2013 19: 43 New
      +2
      Alexei! The media is all corrupt! almost everything. who pays and orders. leont'ev non-exclusion.
  30. vadimuch
    vadimuch 19 September 2013 12: 01 New
    11
    Leontiev natural minus. All this bad-smelling story to him, as a brow with excellent knowledge and understanding of the economy should be understood for one or two.
    The dead Uralkali was bought by the Karimov clan and comrades for three pennies, raised, and after a lot of dough brought the sandalwood sold with a good amount. Bravo to Sechin, who did not allow himself to be stewed with this happiness. A dad razrulit competently.
    The dream of the entire petty oligarchic Russian society. Ever since we watched the film "Pretty Woman" they have dreamed of three actions - to buy, cut, sell for more and marry a prostitute. True, Richard Gerov is not to be seen among them.
    1. Normal
      Normal 19 September 2013 12: 59 New
      +4
      Quote: vadimuch
      All this bad-smelling story to him, as a brow with excellent knowledge and understanding of the economy should be understood for one or two.

      Is not a fact. More recently, Leontiev proposed selling Gazprom for one dollar, since shale gas is about to become cheaper than natural gas and Gazprom must be disposed of as an unnecessary burden
      Quote: vadimuch
      dream of three actions - to buy, cut, sell more expensive and marry a prostitute. P

      Correct a little; not to buy, but to privatize, marrying not a prostitute (she at least works with her own body, but she earns money), but with a silicone whore with bitchy principles
  31. bubla5
    bubla5 19 September 2013 13: 06 New
    +1
    It was necessary for Lukashenko to take all this 3,14 good fortune, at least something was doing pleasant, still to the wall with a spell of immediate execution.
  32. sergey261180
    sergey261180 19 September 2013 13: 23 New
    +9
    However, hostage-taking in official negotiations is too much
    Oh how! It is now the PZhiV (Urkagan) authorities call this arrest. It is understandable. The judge soldered to Navalner for 5 years, so shish you and not on the zone - let's try as mayors! About Tolka Serduchka so it is generally without comment. Well, I would advise Mishana to start programs like this: "But hello in nature! ..."
  33. Altona
    Altona 19 September 2013 14: 03 New
    +4
    If our "traders" of potassium, by manipulating the market, bring down the prices of this product, simultaneously devastating the budget of our union republic, then apparently they should be treated in exactly the same dastardly way, throwing off diplomatic masks ... Moreover, there are many precedents already accumulated, planes of presidents are planted contrary to the rules, the deposed presidents themselves are killed on the air ... And here? Just think, some kind of baumgartner ...
  34. Alex66
    Alex66 19 September 2013 14: 16 New
    +5
    Without even going into the intricacies of the case, I’ll say that I’m for the Old Man, he worries about his people, and not the pocket of the oligarchs. That our Baumgertner and Karimov themselves created Uralkali from scratch? As Uralkali received, they also wanted to clean Belaruskali, but received it through playful hands, not all are sorry.
  35. Stalinets
    Stalinets 19 September 2013 14: 23 New
    +6
    Old Man is a wise man. Leontiev should hold his horses. The wrong mouth opened. To stand for the Zionist underground means to be on their side. But Dvorkovich, yes, a Zionist. yes
    1. experienced
      experienced 19 September 2013 14: 28 New
      -4
      Quote: Stalinist
      Old Man is a wise man. Leontiev should hold his horses. The wrong mouth opened

      Lukashenka was already "blown away", apparently realized that he could not last long without Russian subsidies. Now he is looking for how to get out of the situation into which he drove himself "saving face".
      President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko did not rule out that Minsk will extradite Uralkali CEO Vladislav Baumgertner to Moscow, if Russian law enforcement authorities conduct necessary investigations against him.

      «If Russian investigators are interested in the extradition of the Russian citizen Baumgertner, who was detained by us, then I see no particular obstacles. We are absolutely not holding on to him.", - said Lukashenko, reports RIA" Novosti ".

      According to Lukashenko, “Potash dispute” should not become a stumbling block not only between Belarus and Russia, but also between presidents.


      You can do something if you have the strength, but sitting on someone’s neck also has the right to swing ... winked
      Yesterday, from the side of the GDP, another "hint" was about agricultural machinery from Belarus, apparently this was the "last straw" ...
      1. Current 72
        Current 72 19 September 2013 15: 09 New
        +6
        Experienced. And what do you know about Belarus ??? If we had such resources and opportunities as Russia’s, then WE would have lived better than somewhere in the WORLD. But alas, we don’t have such resources, and we live WITH OUR WORK and BRAIN, and potassium is a good appendage to our WORK. And more a question for you: WHERE THE ALL INDUSTRY AND AGRICULTURE IN THE POST-SOVIET SPACE HAVE BEEN SAVED? That's when you answer, maybe then you will understand the FATHER.
        1. ramsi
          ramsi 19 September 2013 16: 10 New
          0
          a possible (in principle!) alternative to the Old Man - the Baltic states, Georgia, Central Asia ... as they say, choose who you like more? ..
        2. fisherman
          fisherman 19 September 2013 20: 13 New
          0
          I remember that before the collapse of the Union, one warrant officer from the BSSR very meticulously explained to me that the BSSR would only win in the event of a "divorce" ...

          not only is the people working, it has its own oil (and it really is), and even its own gold (somewhere in the Soviet press an article slipped on finding gold dust).

          and here again I hear the old intonations, thank you, pleased ...
      2. alone
        alone 19 September 2013 19: 44 New
        +6
        when Old Man with finances is tight, we (Azerbaijan) always help him))) so Old Man will not give insult to him))
        1. Ustas
          Ustas 20 September 2013 12: 01 New
          0
          Quote: lonely
          when Old Man with finances is tight, we (Azerbaijan) always help him))) so Old Man will not give insult to him))

          That is correct.
  36. Black
    Black 19 September 2013 14: 39 New
    +5
    fellow Old Man! Most of the Russians are with you! Keep it up! Maybe these people will even sit in your prisons, we hope that the conditions of sitting are domestic.
    Old Man, Vasiliev is not needed for negotiations, .. otherwise we will send, Serdyukov - he is conducting ...
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 19 September 2013 16: 05 New
      +7
      Quote: Chen
      Old Man, Vasiliev is not needed for negotiations, .. otherwise we will send, Serdyukov - he is conducting ...

      In the spring I already posted ... I repeat.
      If the GDP in the near future does not shorten the "guardians for the Russian land", then they, these "guardians" tomorrow will float us into the EU after Ukraine.
  37. Stalinets
    Stalinets 19 September 2013 14: 42 New
    +1
    Notice the investigation ...... About "on the neck", I would not rush to rush to such conclusions. yes
  38. Andrii
    Andrii 19 September 2013 14: 47 New
    -1
    The heavy friendship of fraternal peoples. What will happen next? They made friends with Ukraine. Maybe the plan of united Europe goes according to a different scenario. GDP will play muscle. And for a long time? They give after all to play. While losing. ($$$)
  39. michajlo
    michajlo 19 September 2013 14: 58 New
    +8
    Good day to all!

    An article from me "fat minus". angry I understand that mister journalist has popularity, his name, he also probably did not earn it for one or two articles, but like this "making a public lawyer" scammers and criminals, in my opinion, this is too much even for "an all-understanding and sympathetic hard life aligarfs "of the Russian public.

    I personally really liked the video (from Apollon AZ Today, 11:26) very informative and a note from Asgard (2) SU Today, 10:19 Misha Leontiev says "crap" ... (tame Kremlin dog))))
    Kerimov, fulfilled the will of his masters, tried to get Belorusskali into his own and Voloshin's hands, it was from him that the "negotiators" came and offered the Old Man money))))
    Dvorkovich and Sechin blundered something there, but shut up .....
    Old Man is far from a stupid person .....
    And this landing on the "ass" is a signal to the rest that the position is shaky))))
    Leontiev - did not understand this .....


    I am personally very happy, besides the general negative reaction of the members of the forum "to the attempts of a journalist", although so far only by individual members of the forum, the understanding that in my / our conviction, the majority of Russians are aligarhof (99,99%), like Kerimov, etc., these are not real owners, but only "hired managers and actors"which, from behind the theatrical curtain, are controlled by "pulling the strings" real rich and influential people, special services and criminal groups.

    It's nice to see that in Belarus, as long as the AHL is in power, laws are in force and not "decisions of gatherings of brothers"!
    I personally want to wish Comrade Lukashenko good health! And God forbid that he did not make the mistake of Stalin, and even during his lifetime he nurtured and left behind a worthy successor who would continue and develop his undertakings and popular methods of government.
    One more Khrushchev and God forbid Gorbachev and Yeltsin-Belarus and the TS will not survive.
    And for us Ukrainian citizens, the already 22-year-old "insane independent theater" in Kiev from the "political elite" that changes every 4 years is enough ... fool
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 19 September 2013 15: 07 New
      +3
      Lukashenko called Baumgertner’s extradition condition to Russia
      President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko has not ruled out that Minsk will extradite Uralkali CEO Vladislav Baumgertner to Moscow if Russian law enforcers hold against him necessary investigations.
      http://vz.ru/news/2013/9/19/651104.html

      The question is, will the Russian government agree to this?! Actually, Alexander Lukashenko put the Russian government in an awkward position with this statement.
      1. Garrin
        Garrin 19 September 2013 23: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Apollon
        The question is, will the Russian government agree to this ?!
        Well, maybe in a year, 2037m commercials.
  40. EtickayaSila
    EtickayaSila 19 September 2013 15: 06 New
    +6
    Lies! The collapse of the North-Western Administrative Okrug came because Kerimov conducted the bulk of transactions bypassing Belaruskali and dumped Uralkali products with the aim of stuffing his pocket. Belarus had no choice - Belaruskali is really a budget-forming concern. And I’d like to remind the Kremlin’s mongrel that the money stolen from Belaruskali didn’t go to the Russian budget, but to the pockets of the Russian oligarchs - thieves (thieves are not just megavors. Who cares - google Kerimov’s biography, you will find out a lot of interesting things)
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  42. Black
    Black 19 September 2013 15: 33 New
    +2
    Quote: Apollon
    The question is, will the Russian government agree to this?! Actually, Alexander Lukashenko put the Russian government in an awkward position with this statement.

    The raven will not peck out the crow !!!
    The oligarchy and the Kremlin put the entire people of Russia in a "delicate" position.
    Lukashenko: "... this swindler has caused much more harm and damage to Russia than to Belarus ..."
  43. Altona
    Altona 19 September 2013 15: 50 New
    +2
    In general, it is high time for our oligarchs to finish a song from the 90s with the words "we are cool, we will buy everything, they are waiting for us everywhere and everywhere" and seek consensus with the people ... Of course they are waiting, right in impatience ... With a noose in England , with plastic handcuffs in Guantanamo and in the Belarusian KGB ...
  44. amp
    amp 19 September 2013 15: 57 New
    +3
    Yes, I respect Lukashenko a thousand times more than the milestones of these kerimovs and butlers.
  45. EGORKA
    EGORKA 19 September 2013 16: 48 New
    0
    Lukashenko goes too far, it’s clear that he plays on the fact that Moscow needs Minsk as an ally and benefits from it, but it’s not worth it to flirt, although this whole situation could also be beneficial for Russia if it is properly ruined.
  46. wowapa
    wowapa 19 September 2013 19: 30 New
    +1
    Well, after all, Interpol is connected to the search for Kerimov, so Lukashenko has the evidence base
    and Leontyev is simply a murzilka talking about what the owners are ordering, that’s what he’s talking about. And who is the owner of Channel One?
  47. 31231
    31231 19 September 2013 20: 39 New
    0
    I would like to hear a debate on this subject from those who are versed in this from Belaruskali and Uralkali. And so it's all just a chatter.
    1. Jogan-xnumx
      Jogan-xnumx 19 September 2013 22: 10 New
      0
      Yeah. And it is very desirable - in the face-to-face mode and in jail conditions ... lol
  48. rudolff
    rudolff 19 September 2013 21: 33 New
    +4
    It's just that everything is banal. Belaruskali never had its own trading company and it never was an independent player in the market. For some time, trade went through the IWC, registered in Switzerland. Fertilizer prices fluctuated around 150-180 dollars per ton and never exceeded 200. The creation of the BPC is, by and large, a giant scam, an international cartel conspiracy, and it is even strange that no one has sued this company. By combining the assets of Belaruskali, Uralkali and Silvinit, it turned out to create a monster that controlled almost half of the global production of potash fertilizers. And the main violin in the BKK was played by Belarusians. Taking advantage of its dominant position, and in a number of markets as a monopoly, BKK inflated the prices of its products several times. From less than 200 to 600-800 dollars per ton. In some periods, the price reached almost 1000 green. This circus with pricing naturally quite suited other potash producers in the world. Money flowed and such nonsense as the cost of production, the profitability of production ceased even to remember. Farmers certainly hung themselves, but who cares! And this sweet life would go on forever, if not crisis. In Belarus, where the situation in the economy became catastrophic, they started talking about the possible sale of part of Belaruskali's assets, but the price that Alexander Grigoryevich broke down was too much for even Russian bigwigs. 30 mlr. dollars. More than a market valuation of Uralkali and Silvinit combined. Moreover, he warned that further the price will only increase. Then the game began on the nerves. The possibility of selling assets to the Chinese or Indians, that is, the main consumers of BPC products, began to be openly discussed. This was the first part of the Marlezon ballet.
  49. rudolff
    rudolff 19 September 2013 22: 46 New
    +3
    The tragicomedy continued with the appearance of Kerimov. Taking advantage of the fact that due to the crisis, prices for potash fertilizers dropped, and, consequently, for the assets of potash companies, he first bought Uralkali, and after a while also Silvinit. Moreover, he merged their assets into one company, increasing the capitalization to amounts exceeding the capitalization of Belaruskali. Of course, Lukashenko did not like such a change of roles in the joint business, but at first he received Kerimov demonstratively warmly and with hugs to the camera. This did not last too long. Having bargained for a short time and apparently unsuccessfully for Belaruskali, Kerimov focused on sales policy, "pulling the blanket" from BPC to his subsidiary Uralkali Trading, bringing the sales of his potash through it to 80%. Seeing such a card ballet, AG signs a decree allowing Belaruskali to sell products bypassing the BPC and at free prices. I mean dumping. This became the declaration of a thermonuclear war. Kerimov responded in the spirit of the classic "shark capitalism". He pulled Uralkali out of the BPC, bringing down the potash market. I must say that prices have not fallen as much as the noise is about it. They did not reach the price level of the times of the IWC (less than 200 per ton) and most likely they will not fall below 300 dollars per ton. The calculation was simple. Producers of potash fertilizers with a production cost of $ 200 and above will be forced to stop production and, accordingly, their assets can be bought at a price below the market price, and by increasing their market share to a size comparable to that of BPC, product prices could be raised to the sky again. Classics of the genre. Business, nothing personal. And everything would be unkempt, but bearable, if not for one thing! During the entire existence of Belaruskali, the Belarusians have not even tried to learn how to trade on their own, have not acquired their own sales network and have not even studied the logistics of supplies. Sales are up. We entered into a quick contract with a Qatari trading company, but that was engaged in nitrogen trading and had no experience with potash. The result is zero.
  50. Captain216
    Captain216 19 September 2013 23: 06 New
    +1
    There was earlier suspicion that Leontyev was watered. a prostitute, but doubted ... Now I have no doubt!