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Three officers stole fuel for tank biathlon competitions

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Three officers of the Russian army are suspected of stealing seven tons of diesel fuel intended for holding tank biathlon competitions, the press service of the Main Military Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee told Itar-Tass.

“The military investigative department of the Investigative Committee on the Alabinsky garrison opened three criminal cases against military personnel of the military unit 77707 - captain Roman Belyaev and lieutenants Roman Obedkov and Vitaly Belan. They are suspected of committing a crime under the article “misappropriation or embezzlement, that is, the theft of someone else's property entrusted to the perpetrator, committed by a person using his official position,” the agency reports.

Investigation of criminal cases continues.

Tank biathlon competitions were held in August at the Alabinsky range with the participation of Russian, Kazakh, Armenian and Belarusian teams. The victory was won by Russian tankers, all crew members awarded cars "Niva".



In the tank biathlon, the total time is affected not only by the speed of overcoming the route and the mandatory defeat of all five targets, but also by successfully overcoming various obstacles and the absence of penalty points. Tanks pass barriers, ford, gauge bridge and high-speed sections. As in the regular biathlon, misses at the turn are punishable by a penalty circle.
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  1. Refund_SSSR
    Refund_SSSR 19 September 2013 10: 39 New
    46
    laughing Here are the clowns!
    There are simply NO other words!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 19 September 2013 10: 43 New
      78
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      laughing Here are the clowns!
      There are simply NO other words!

      Not clowns, but the growing Serdyukovs ... Now the position allows the solarium to be stolen, to another position, which is more, etc. A career only increases opportunities.
      1. Refund_SSSR
        Refund_SSSR 19 September 2013 10: 47 New
        53
        Apparently among your friends there are no and there were no workers of the canteens! laughing
        That's where they drag it on an industrial scale!
        And these are real clowns! I should have thought of stealing at such competitions! To which the attention of almost the whole world is riveted !!
        1. Crocodile
          Crocodile 19 September 2013 11: 11 New
          22
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          I should have thought of stealing at such competitions! To which the attention of almost the whole world is riveted !!

          And at another moment, do you think you can?
          There is a penchant for "business" - 3.14 go to the businessmen, don't hesitate to sit on the neck of the country you have to protect! Otherwise, he will soon figure out the price for military secrets with the enemy! Where are our forgotten specials?
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 19 September 2013 11: 18 New
            12
            Quote: Crocodile
            There is a penchant for "business" - 3.14 go to business

            And who said, “at the heart of every big fortune lies a crime?” So they are just novice businessmen. In all the “states” that have arisen on the ruins of the USSR, the whole business starts exactly this way. As we were told, you first need start-up capital, and then a step into big business. The main thing is to make a million dollar fortune and not get caught at the very beginning. And then no one will ask where the millions come from.
            1. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 19 September 2013 12: 34 New
              11
              I don’t know whether I will disappoint you or support you this way ... this is how ALL the big business begins. Funds for the quick promotion of any project from scratch can only ... steal. This immutable economic law has been known in the West a long time ago. Banks like to say that they support startups and run major investment programs ... all the lies from start to finish. Banks will never, under any circumstances, give a loan for a startup. Only under a heavy, full guarantee. That's when you have already untwisted ...
              There is a second way - honest earnings. Let's say $ 10 million is the cost of a business done honestly with hard work and sweat. Of these, one million a business owner earns an average of 20 years. And the other nine throughout the year. These are not some "problems of the former USSR", this is just an economic reality.
              1. Stasstoychev
                Stasstoychev 19 September 2013 12: 42 New
                0
                Well this is where such categoricality? Everything, never ... Are you a banker? Entrepreneur? And by whom was this "immutable" economic law adopted, recognized, proved?
                1. Mikhail3
                  Mikhail3 19 September 2013 14: 14 New
                  12
                  And an entrepreneur. And by whom is it proven? Well, read foreign business intelligence. Not only Forex advertising, but serious people. Look, for example, for the old text (on paper. Electronic media is so subject to change ...) "Caches for millions." There was a good translation once.
                  But in general, everything that I said is a commonplace, children of the Western elite are taught this without fail, this is the basics, without this kind of knowledge even suckers like our "oligarchs" cannot be divorced. But it's hard to find dumber guys ... But at Harvard or Yale, there is no such thing in textbooks, of course. There, the children of the bred native horse "study" ... So they read such a course to the dad's students there during the holidays.
                  By the way, I advise you to learn another truth. There is NO such science - economics. There are only sets of methods for processing enemy consciousness in one way or another. And if you know by what set of books the business partner studied, then you also fully understand how you can omit it. For this, books are written. Do not look for stiff evidence in a dirty fight ....
                  1. the polar
                    the polar 19 September 2013 17: 55 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Mikhail3

                    By the way, I advise you to learn another truth. There is NO such science - economics. There are only sets of methods for processing enemy consciousness

                    It will be even more useful if you finish writing here. Here you are not a school of scam graduates of the HSE, to urinate with such an aplomb dope, in public.
                    1. Mikhail3
                      Mikhail3 19 September 2013 20: 32 New
                      +5
                      Well, it's hard not to react to such a polite response. For HSE alumni, everything is very scientific. They give each other all the "scientific" titles. Below the "doctor of sciences" they have, in my opinion, no one there. I’m still waiting for them to finally start giving themselves the title of “three times academician”. And what kind of "research" ... tears from the eyes, snot from the nose ...
                      Have you ever heard that the research process affects the object under study? Well, a simple example - if you light a fish under study that has lived its entire life in a flooded cave, it's hard to expect natural behavior from it. Or maybe the behavior is natural ... it's hard to find out. Well, the economy lends itself to change depending on the authority of the "researcher" almost absolutely.
                      That is, it is impossible to cure the crisis. smile , but any article, and even more so a book, turns the behavior of those subjects of the economy who take them seriously, very significantly. In fact, researchers don't use the scientific analysis-synthesis method, they just try to directly influence the processes. And they influence ... Those who put a charge of mind into their "research", so to speak. Our HSE and its associates are investing what they have ... that is one laugh. Well, who listens to them then? You really have to be a fool ...
                      But people are serious ... It's the economy! That is money! The repulsed eccentrics who "worked for science" here have long since disappeared. Now they work for the pocket - the so-called. "experts" wage economic wars, directing the minds of the people to a simpler place where serious people tell them ...
                      Something like that. Excuse me, that without a mate ...
              2. alex13-61
                alex13-61 19 September 2013 13: 51 New
                +1
                Quote: Mikhail3
                .. so begins the WHOLE big business.

                For me, the right entrepreneur is Henry Ford. And his book "My Life - My Achievements" is information that will not be superfluous to get acquainted with ... and no stolen fuel trucks ...
                1. Lapotnik
                  Lapotnik 19 September 2013 15: 27 New
                  18
                  Henry Ford was supported by the government, using slave labor, including children. (also like Hugo boss, Kodak, Apple, Microsoft, etc., etc.)

                  When already people begin to think then. No supercapital is born from scratch and without external support. Tales about Supermanagery, businessmen do not give rest? Oh well.

                  At all times, honest work does not earn superprofits. Always theft, blackmail, war and other delights.

                  PS. so many times it was discussed in all the more sensible sites, including here and on those. Simpletons who believe in billionaires who started by washing sortings cannot be translated.

                  PPS For me the words entrepreneur, businessman, banker are directly associated with thieves.

                  IMHO
              3. Sergey_K
                Sergey_K 19 September 2013 15: 26 New
                0
                You know, you can write a lot, you can list hundreds of successful startups ranging from Kaspersky to Cisco. At all times there were people who create, people who give loot for it and then cut coupons and people who sit and mandate. I think you yourself know in which category you belong)
                1. Mikhail3
                  Mikhail3 19 September 2013 21: 01 New
                  +3
                  That's right. Who needs Kaspersky in the first place? Is it really for those who want to be a little bit present in any computer in the world (these are the ones I strongly support. Well done!)? By the way, I recommend to study the genealogy of such an uncle ... Bill Gates, it seems. You won’t have to climb far, it’s just on the other side, so to speak. And Tsysko is there, yeah.
                  By the way, the budgets of those non-existent organizations, which finally did not help these completely independent billionaire billionaires to become who they are, do not indulge in secret ones ... it’s very convenient, yes.
            2. dmit-xnumx
              dmit-xnumx 19 September 2013 23: 07 New
              +2
              Remember Bogdan Susik's sacramental escapade from Trembita - "Rob-deceive-steal, just become a decent man!" ...
          2. olegff68
            olegff68 19 September 2013 12: 14 New
            +5
            Quote: Crocodile
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            I should have thought of stealing at such competitions! To which the attention of almost the whole world is riveted !!

            And at another moment, do you think you can?

            Uninhabited habits of the past - now Den. the satisfaction of the RA officers is not bad enough, but in the 90s and 00s in the same Taman (Alabino) diesel from the tanks left the river to the left, as in other things and everywhere, and where there was no fuel, they carried the color met. , for example, they carried him out from Peter the Great in tons (while recognizing that they were turning a warship into a barge).
          3. optimist
            optimist 19 September 2013 19: 47 New
            +5
            Quote: Crocodile
            Where are our forgotten specialists?

            And they are also "in the share" !!! laughing
          4. phantom359
            phantom359 20 September 2013 00: 18 New
            0
            Quote: Crocodile
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            I should have thought of stealing at such competitions! To which the attention of almost the whole world is riveted !!

            And at another moment, do you think you can?
            There is a penchant for "business" - 3.14 go to the businessmen, don't hesitate to sit on the neck of the country you have to protect! Otherwise, he will soon figure out the price for military secrets with the enemy! Where are our forgotten specials?

            Yes, you need to break off immediately and moreover toughly. And the Specialists, most likely in proportion, do not do such things alone.
        2. Russ69
          Russ69 19 September 2013 15: 51 New
          +4
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          Apparently among your friends there are no and there were no workers of the canteens! laughing
          That's where they drag it on an industrial scale!
          And these are real clowns! I should have thought of stealing at such competitions! To which the attention of almost the whole world is riveted !!

          Ha .. But what is it like that at Serdyukov, with Vasilyeva run into? Apparently, for stealing a car with a solarium it’s fun, but for the train, then the guard must be shot.
          The difference in what, in the amount of stolen?
          Then, it must be admitted that the criticism of thieving officials consists only in envy of them, that they can steal so that they have enough for life, and others do not ...
        3. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 19 September 2013 17: 26 New
          +6
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          I should have thought of stealing at such competitions!

          Yes, at such events the easiest to steal. The control is minimal. Fuel is poured on demand. Even if you write off in accordance with the mileage and hours, taking into account all the coefficients, there will be surpluses, at least flood. And you don’t need to steal anything.
          Dudes probably caught trying to sell.
        4. finderektor
          finderektor 19 September 2013 19: 22 New
          +1
          DLB signalmen know this sign.
        5. Revolver
          Revolver 19 September 2013 19: 50 New
          +3
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          Apparently among your friends there are no and there were no workers of the canteens! laughing
          That's where they drag it on an industrial scale!

          General Relativity (a little off Einstein).
          Whoever can does that.
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 19 September 2013 11: 02 New
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        Quote: ...
        Three Russian army officers suspected of stealing seven tons of diesel


        7 tons is a whole fuel truck !!! And what about the stolen 6 billion? Encouraged heroes with new posts, personal cars, perks and gifts?
        1. sergeschern
          sergeschern 19 September 2013 12: 24 New
          +7
          There were no billions! - Forget !
      3. Maks111
        Maks111 19 September 2013 14: 05 New
        +4
        Direct crime of the century)))
      4. S-200
        S-200 19 September 2013 15: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: Russ69
        Not clowns, but the growing Serdyukovs ...

        Most likely, they will have time to "lean back" before Tolik with his thieves' harem - "sits down" ...
        But these guys are clearly overgrown ... negative
      5. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 19 September 2013 18: 06 New
        +1
        growing Serdyukovs

        Et Th as in "Big Difference" that the first is "Serdyukov. Beginning"?
      6. Eugeniy_369
        Eugeniy_369 19 September 2013 18: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: Russ69
        Not clowns, but the growing Serdyukovs ..

        Only who is raising these Serdyukov? Or did they come from Mars to us?
        Where did their boss look? In the army, it seems so far the principle of unity of command. It only seems to me that they stole under the impression of superior theft.
        PS Such "clowns we have half the country. Humanly they can be understood -" why "Petka Prosecutor" drives a Lexus, but I can't scrape together a "scattered" Toyota? "Nobody thinks about undermining the country's defense capability.
        See you everywhere, 7 tons of solariums? Yes, if the composition was stolen and no one would pickle.
      7. bif
        bif 19 September 2013 22: 11 New
        0
        It's time to introduce the long-forgotten terms "Link to Kolyma" and "With confiscation of ALL property" ..
      8. DS22
        DS22 20 September 2013 03: 06 New
        0
        No one thought: maybe just absolution? Did the superior boss c3.14 stay, and set up the junior officers? So, this one has to be a real woodpecker in order to steal where it will open in any way!
      9. Nick
        Nick 20 September 2013 10: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Russ69
        the growing Serdyukovs ... Now the position allows the solarium to be stolen, to another position, which is more, etc. A career only increases opportunities.

        I hope that their career in the Army will end there ... am
    2. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 19 September 2013 10: 50 New
      10
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      laughing Here are the clowns!
      There are simply NO other words!

      Unhappy weak people succumbed to a passion called greed.
      And they could have the honor of serving the Motherland!
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 19 September 2013 11: 26 New
        0
        Quote: GreatRussia
        Unhappy weak people succumbed to a passion called greed.

        Alas, this is already an inveterate habit:
        "You go home from work, take a nail,
        After all, you are the host, not the guest " laughing
    3. Crocodile
      Crocodile 19 September 2013 11: 05 New
      14
      Bad fly, after such messages, it's a shame to say the phrase: "The word of the officer!"
      A worthy change of stool is growing!
      Deprivation of all ranks, diplomas and for urgent in the army - mind gain!
      All such messages should begin with the words - "Former officers convicted by the officers' court and the law of Russia ..."
      1. alex13-61
        alex13-61 19 September 2013 12: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Crocodile
        Bad fly, after such messages, it's a shame to say the phrase: "The word of the officer!"
        A worthy change of stool is growing!
        Deprivation of all ranks, diplomas and for urgent in the army - mind gain!
        All such messages should begin with the words - "Former officers convicted by the officers' court and the law of Russia ..."

        I agree completely ... and even earlier it was necessary to start. Remembering my urgent one, an episode always pops up: our political officer issues an order to take away the oak rivet (at that time, the headquarters was undergoing repairs - the floors were repaired) and to the question: "Won't the birch go? " replied: "She ... more from oak coal ..." ... he made kebabs, you see, on the balcony ... It's a trifle, of course, but "growing up" and appetites grow.
    4. vadimus
      vadimus 19 September 2013 11: 07 New
      +3
      It's hard to call them officers ....
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 19 September 2013 15: 04 New
        +3
        Quote: vadimus
        It's hard to call them officers ....


        Sackers. True, I thought that after Serdyukov there’s nothing to steal, but no, they steal ....
    5. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 19 September 2013 11: 20 New
      16
      hi
      Not clowns, no! But petty thieves, rat-rats, who have lost all conscience and honor of an officer of the Russian Army! However, they have someone to take an example ...
    6. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 19 September 2013 11: 28 New
      +5
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      Three officers stole fuel for tank biathlon competitions

      These are not officers, these are stools .......
      1. Zerstorer
        Zerstorer 19 September 2013 15: 27 New
        +3
        Not stools, so small ottomans ... And to be honest - for the state it is insulting and embarrassing. It’s a shame when such officers serve in our guard division. For good, there should be a show case with publicity throughout the country.
      2. max702
        max702 20 September 2013 00: 56 New
        0
        HER ELITE! ...
    7. 222222
      222222 19 September 2013 11: 31 New
      20
      Not clowns, but criminals .. In the USSR we called them so sweetly "nesunami" And did not notice how we "took away" the whole country ..
    8. Scoun
      Scoun 19 September 2013 11: 49 New
      +6
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      Here are the clowns!

      Of course, clowns ... for three, if even at the full cost of a thousand, they slammed for 170000 and most likely they sold for not full 120000 ....
      only these "clowns" can really be imprisoned .... (if really it is their handiwork)
      More need to *** put "comrades" officers ... then you can even do without house arrest ...
      Ugh damn ((((
    9. honest jew
      honest jew 19 September 2013 13: 35 New
      +1
      One hundred percent in this case again the Jews and American agents (meritorians) are to blame! Russian officers (Officer honor, after all), could not do it !!!!
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 19 September 2013 14: 57 New
        +1
        it always has been hi
      2. novobranets
        novobranets 19 September 2013 16: 36 New
        +3
        С
        then the percent in this matter again the Jews are to blame
        I, I beg you, leave your bile to yourself. hi
      3. alex13-61
        alex13-61 19 September 2013 19: 00 New
        0
        Quote: Honest Jew
        One hundred percent in this case again the Jews and American agents (meritorians) are to blame! Russian officers (Officer honor, after all), could not do it !!!!

        Your post is not a minus ... because common sense slipped from you ...
        I am not looking for agents - minders ... and why should I send it ... as long as there is an international currency - the dollar ... On the day when the world moves away from it - I will be satisfied ...
    10. sonik-007
      sonik-007 19 September 2013 13: 56 New
      +1
      You yourself are a clown. Popularization of the army among the population, read the rise of patriotism, including, will never hurt.
    11. Letun
      Letun 19 September 2013 16: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      laughing Here are the clowns!
      There are simply NO other words!

      And what, they did it right, there will be no fuel for the penalty circles, more precisely they will shoot laughing
    12. svp67
      svp67 19 September 2013 17: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      There are simply NO other words!
      There are investigators. You see, on these three, they will SO recoup that Mom is not grieving ... Part of this energy, yes, the UK would have directed against Serdyukov and his state-owned company. And it turns out that this trinity, whose fault has not yet been proven, there was no trial - they will become guilty of all the troubles of the Moscow Region ...
    13. kush62
      kush62 19 September 2013 17: 37 New
      +3
      Here are the clowns!
      There are simply NO other words!

      What are these clowns. Why offend the profession in the circus. These are thieves.
      1. alone
        alone 19 September 2013 19: 11 New
        +3
        if you look at the tricks of Serdyukov and his team, then the tricks of the three officers seem to be a prank. For 7 tons of fuel they will receive in full. We will wait when Serdyukov and receive it in full.

        P.S. I personally do not believe that Serdyukov will be punished. At least under the current government.
    14. MAG
      MAG 19 September 2013 19: 16 New
      +1
      Here it is in our opinion))) they put everything on biathlon and Shoigu with a company that will watch this biathlon. To whom is war and to whom is mother dear? And it’s funny and sad.
    15. Joker
      Joker 19 September 2013 19: 16 New
      +1
      Well, we blame the power, but they themselves have a fluff, then such people become commanders, no matter what, and they steal everything that comes to hand. This is not a fish problem in the head, but in the whole fish.
  2. experienced
    experienced 19 September 2013 10: 41 New
    24
    Bugaga, for sure, the poor fellows will be put in prison, 7 tons of fuel is not several billion for which you can "wind time" under a bracelet in the center of Moscow laughing
    Let the organizers rejoice that the cartridges and shells are not "rubbed out"
    The system itself corrupts people with impunity: "They steal there in billions and they like water off a duck's back, and I'm worse? I also have the right to" pinch off "a bit ..."
    However, the authorities gave a clear signal: "We do not imprison for theft, we give the opportunity to pay off !!!" Stole, got caught, paid a fine and all the way ... We are not in 37th year wink
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 19 September 2013 10: 51 New
      31
      The system itself corrupts people

      Mortgage - took in the bank 4 million and for 20 years in shackles.
      Bank robbery - stole 100 million, served 10 years
      Compared to a mortgage, 10 years of life and 96 million are in the black ...

      Decide for yourself which is more profitable laughing wassat
      Cons put those with a sense of humor bad? laughing
      1. Sergey_K
        Sergey_K 19 September 2013 15: 28 New
        +4
        Cons are put by those who are already planning. And you shoot the whole business case ...)
    2. Babon
      Babon 19 September 2013 10: 53 New
      +5
      And we did, they caught the colonel, for 2 years I only served, I already bought an apartment and a Camry, but then, because he blocked the common feeder with the FSB, he sent them, like our territory and we do not need them. A criminal case was immediately brought against him, but the case was closed and he went on promotion to another district.
    3. klimpopov
      klimpopov 19 September 2013 10: 54 New
      10
      On it, what’s written that it’s for tank biathlon?) Then a friend told me how Ural got a new one wassat Grit cankanuli in full, came and even the tires have already been removed, the generator is gone and everything is turned out in the cockpit, while all the seals are in place wassat miracles. Sorry for the new technique. One hundred kilometer patrols (WAIs) on their 7 ke, they give a salary every other time, and still need to sell it. Well, I already talked about the Urals.
      So vrovostvo in the army, the matter is ordinary. Someone is billions, someone is tying salary.
      1. kush62
        kush62 19 September 2013 17: 47 New
        +2
        And it has always been. In the early 80s, the commander of the autos always brought the Urals on the line, and all the officers (who had) poured the written-off gasoline into their cars.
  3. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 19 September 2013 10: 41 New
    +3
    Money overshadowed the mind
    1. Walking
      Walking 19 September 2013 23: 12 New
      +1
      What kind of mind are you talking about?
      1. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 20 September 2013 01: 56 New
        0
        Do you consider officers of the Russian Army not rational creatures?
  4. xetai9977
    xetai9977 19 September 2013 10: 42 New
    +4
    The family is not without a freak. Significant surname of the lieutenant - Obedkov
  5. Stiletto
    Stiletto 19 September 2013 10: 43 New
    14
    They just take an example from older comrades. Why is it possible for Serdyukov and Vasilyeva, but not for them? Until the state answers this question for itself, theft on trifles and big will continue. And somewhere, because of = this, a show will not take place, but somewhere without support a platoon or company will die ...
    1. military
      military 19 September 2013 10: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: Stiletto
      They just take an example from older comrades. Why is it possible for Serdyukov and Vasilyeva, but not for them?

      "You go home from work - take even a nail with you!
      After all, at home you are the owner, and at work you are the guest ... " wassat
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 19 September 2013 11: 46 New
        +4
        Quote: military
        "You go home from work - take even a nail with you!
        After all, at home you are the owner, and at work you are the guest ... "


        With this "approach" it will not last long and it will slide down to this ... laughing
    2. Bort radist
      Bort radist 19 September 2013 11: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Stiletto
      They just take an example from older comrades.

      Do as I do!
    3. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 19 September 2013 12: 28 New
      +2
      Here I am about the same thing. If it is possible for a minister with close associates (I mean Serdyukov), then why not for others. The only thing is the difference in capabilities and, accordingly, in scale.
    4. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 19 September 2013 16: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: Stiletto
      Why is it possible for Serdyukov and Vasilyeva, but not for them?

      BECAUSE - OFFICERS Or is the honor of the uniform already an empty phrase? Eh, hit these "ottomans" to my company commander ... and the political commander here m.r.a.z.yu was all denunciations (on the political side) scribbled .....
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 19 September 2013 16: 44 New
        +1
        That's when Serduchka will be dragged into a prison, then these will also think.
    5. kush62
      kush62 19 September 2013 17: 51 New
      +2
      They just take an example from older comrades. Why is it possible for Serdyukov and Vasilyeva, but not for them? Until the state answers this question for itself, theft on trifles and big will continue. And somewhere, because of = this, a show will not take place, but somewhere without support a platoon or company will die ...

      Good excuse. They can, but me, what can’t? They do not take an example from anyone. A thief steals because a thief. And not because he wants to take an example from someone.
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 19 September 2013 19: 36 New
        +1
        The impunity of some gives rise to the crimes of others.
  6. Tarpon
    Tarpon 19 September 2013 10: 43 New
    10
    Three officers of the Russian army are suspected of stealing seven tons of diesel fuel intended for holding tank biathlon competitions

    A shame.
    1. ty60
      ty60 19 September 2013 12: 53 New
      +6
      at the time of the tsar-priest, an officer who was unjustly spending state money or went to court, or shot himself from the timeline .. The officer’s court of honor, where? Why is not one of the stools deprived of ranks and ranks?
  7. Jahn
    Jahn 19 September 2013 10: 43 New
    +2
    Shoot, along with Serdyukov, and Vasilyeva, others will not go well
  8. Babon
    Babon 19 September 2013 10: 44 New
    +5
    Yes, this is a trifle, I personally observed how the solarium was constantly drained and sold. Just 7 tons at a time, probably poured, that’s why they scorched, and so 7 tons were poured in a couple of weeks and was not even noticed.
    1. military
      military 19 September 2013 10: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: Babon
      Yes, this is a trifle, I personally observed how the solarium was constantly drained and sold.

      one acquaintance told how in the 90s he was on a long business trip to Tajikistan ... the equipment was powered from the network, but the diesel fuel was decommissioned and *** drunk with barrels ...
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 19 September 2013 11: 31 New
        0
        And what’s complicated, you drive one or two tanks to the landfill that created more noise, and from the rest the fuel truck went to the gas station, and even traded along the road, there were such ones near Nizhny Novgorod.
      2. novobranets
        novobranets 19 September 2013 19: 34 New
        +2
        Somehow we were driving a KAMAZ, we ran out of fuel, there was nowhere to refuel. A tank unit stood nearby, they went, found the battalion commander, offered to exchange the solarium for vegetables for the dining room. He almost burst into tears - "I am on the battalion, they allocate half a ton of diesel fuel for a week, we get one hundred to one hundred and fifty liters, my tanks have not left the park for a month." How. Here is the training of crews, and the increase in the level of defense.
  9. Strashila
    Strashila 19 September 2013 10: 44 New
    +4
    Here it is the force of habit ... do not pay the lope ... but greed is still greater.
    1. Babon
      Babon 19 September 2013 10: 46 New
      +1
      Yes it is everywhere, I knew how many "ours", all garages were bursting with state-owned diesel fuel.
    2. military
      military 19 September 2013 11: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: Strashila
      Here it is the force of habit ... do not pay the lope ... but greed is still greater.

      this is not a force of habit ... just the guys figured it out in advance and realized that the freezing of the indexation of DD is coming from 2014 well, and they took, so to speak, preventive measures to compensate ... winked
  10. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 19 September 2013 10: 45 New
    +1
    Fucking !!! not restrained .. They will have to plant them in the biathlon zone.!
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 19 September 2013 15: 50 New
      +1
      will be them in the biathlon zone.!
      No, they prefer billiards there. laughing
  11. andrei332809
    andrei332809 19 September 2013 10: 45 New
    +6
    Investigation of criminal cases continues.

    Of course, products No. 2, but they are far from Vasilieva. and in general, what a violation of traditions, why the ensign did not participate?
    1. military
      military 19 September 2013 11: 26 New
      +7
      Quote: andrei332809
      and in general, what a violation of traditions, why the ensign did not participate?

      did not have time... repeat
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 19 September 2013 11: 36 New
        +4
        Quote: military
        did not have time...

        in a big family .... don’t click. or, as the Khrushchev used to say, you want fat, don’t take it off ... oh wassat
    2. uwzek
      uwzek 19 September 2013 17: 55 New
      +1
      The ensign as a class in the modern army has been eliminated, and in the division mentioned in the article (after Serdyukov’s reforms) fuel and lubricants are managed by civilians (naturally, either Azerbaijanis or Armenians), at least a couple of years ago it was still like that.
  12. Jahn
    Jahn 19 September 2013 10: 46 New
    +3
    , shoot along with Serdyukov, so that others do not get along well
  13. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 19 September 2013 10: 46 New
    +2
    What kind of moron do you have to be "independently of each other" to shove solarium from an event of international significance? And in such quantities?
    The joke was remembered:
    The Jews gathered at the rabbi's. The question arose: "Why don't others like us Jews?" The rabbi thought and said: "Next Saturday, each of us will bring a bottle of vodka, pour it into the cauldron, drink and think about it!"
    Moisha got together on Saturday, takes a bottle, and his wife: "Why vodka? Pour water into a bottle, but pour it into a cauldron - there will be a lot of vodka, no one will understand ...".
    Moisha came, poured water into the boiler.
    The rabbi prevented in the boiler, poured the goofy, tried, and in the boiler - clear water. And the rabbi said - that’s why we Jews don’t like us ...
    So these three French dukes of the de Bill family are the same.
  14. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 19 September 2013 10: 52 New
    +6
    Well, yes, they are guilty, now they are blatantly slapped for about 8 years (I figured it offhand) so that others are not disagreeable.
    But Serdyukov passes as a witness and Vasilyeva with her friends "under house arrest."
    It was necessary to push the train of fuel, maybe then they would have mercy.
    Inverse proportions - the more you steal, the less they will give - insanity !!!
  15. pa_nik
    pa_nik 19 September 2013 10: 52 New
    +2
    Quote: Russ69
    Not clowns, but the growing Serdyukovs ...


    Yeah, the fish, as you know, "rots with ..". Metastases, you know ... have reached the peripheral "organs". request
  16. Al Asad
    Al Asad 19 September 2013 10: 53 New
    +6
    With such salaries, diesel fuel is still being stolen .......
  17. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 19 September 2013 10: 54 New
    +4
    7 tons of solarium? Yes, there is such a thing everywhere, think 7 tons, was it worth writing about it? In Chechnya, the militants were sold more, it is clear that this is for the fact that the fight against "corruption" is going on at all levels
  18. maestro123
    maestro123 19 September 2013 10: 56 New
    +7
    Quote: seasoned
    We are not in 37

    Speaking of the 37th, it turns out interestingly: Khodorkovsky is sitting, and Serdyukov, Vasilyeva are walking.
  19. ayuric
    ayuric 19 September 2013 10: 58 New
    +1
    how many times I see and think "morons", because for several months in a row there are financial and embezzlement revelations, and they do not care, they steal and steal, it looks like people's brains have atrophied into rustling paper. one was caught, the other was caught, so sit down and press your ass, no, we need money-money-money. Asking them to the fullest extent possible, and even for that comrade, may begin to think.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 19 September 2013 11: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: ayuric
      because for several months in a row there have been financially embezzlement revelations

      And what are the results? Here are the guys, taking into account the "results" and frolic.
      Quote: ayuric
      To ask them in all severity, and even for that comrade, may begin to think.

      Of course they will ask. And for that friend, and for his girlfriend in a bracelet. 7 tons, not 7 trains, punishable offense.
    2. uwzek
      uwzek 19 September 2013 18: 07 New
      0
      You would better ask: what kind of cars they ride, how much they pay on a mortgage per month. Credits, sir! Stop stealing - you will become bankrupt in a couple of months, even an increased DD will not save. I had to go to tank units of the Russian Federation on official duties - young officers (hardly among them there were general daughters) - they live clearly beyond their means ...
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      2. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 19 September 2013 21: 11 New
        0
        Quote: uwzek
        I had to go to tank units of the Russian Federation on official duties - young officers (hardly among them there were general daughters) - they live clearly beyond their means ...

        ... But I did not immediately connect this message with the following, which you wrote in 53 minutes (below).
        But this is already too much, Andrei Ivanovich ...
        If you read them together, then in your opinion it turns out that the tankers live beyond their means, they ride some kind of mafia, they throw money on a mortgage and their main task is a trade in state diesel fuel ...
        And you all know absolutely precisely, as you are in the tank units of the Russian Federation.

        WHAT THE HELL ???
        Do you take too much on yourself with such generalizations?
        Well, we met a few goats, but zafig erect poklep all ???

        And I was still looking at his posts with interest, like Tagilets ...
  20. tlauicol
    tlauicol 19 September 2013 10: 59 New
    +3
    will be doing it live soon
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 19 September 2013 11: 35 New
      +5
      Scientific and educational program "Steal your first million"
      on weekdays at TNT.
      In the evenings on REN-TV "Exposing terrible corrupt officials"
  21. kutuli4
    kutuli4 19 September 2013 11: 01 New
    +4
    Yeah, they always stole from us and will steal. Although the nineties behind and the power of habit is power!
    1. uwzek
      uwzek 19 September 2013 19: 00 New
      +3
      In the USSR they always stole, not only in the nineties of the last century, and they stole everything. At the household level (I’m talking about the notorious unsuns) this was justified by the complete absence of a huge amount of necessary items on sale (for example, pulling a nail home is redneck, but you would have searched and not found M12x1,25 bolts and nuts if you hadn’t stolen from the country or purchased from her stolen). Fuel and lubricants then, by the way, was not a shortage - to justify the assigned ton-kilometers, each driver did not know where to put the unused fuel and would be glad to sell it, but more often it was simply corny dumped into a ditch.
      Nowadays, such varieties of embezzlement of the national economy are practically obsolete. The stores have everything (for a reasonable price, by the way), and normal people have disgraced themselves because of a handful of cloves long ago. But the activity of those who have the ability to steal wagons (without much of a difference) has increased many times over ...
      But the fuel became a hot commodity, and no one began to change the consumption rates and the fuel consumption control system in the army (I will never believe that this was out of power for those who overexposed). As a result, a whole generation of tank officers was brought up, the main task of which was the sale of public diesel fuel ...
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 19 September 2013 19: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: uwzek
        As a result, a whole generation of tank officers was brought up, the main task of which was the sale of public diesel fuel ...

        Andrei Ivanovich, and what is so specific about tankers?
        The rest suddenly became delicate dandelions and only we alone became radishes?
        It is not good to cheat members of the forum, because even children drop in here ...

        Why should children be deceived?
        Oh no no no.
        Tried to be correct.
  22. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 19 September 2013 11: 02 New
    +8
    I’ll explain for those who don’t know such a thing, for those who work on diesel engines selling tanning salons is an obligatory ritual, this is not a crime
    1. Babon
      Babon 19 September 2013 11: 09 New
      +3
      With us, those who had access to diesel fuel, all moved to diesel cars. Especially in winter, consumption rates are already different, on one warm-up of a diesel engine you can already fill up your car to the eyeballs, you don’t even need to write off anything.
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 19 September 2013 11: 46 New
      +4
      I will add. We have 90% of personal tractors running on such a solarium. The remaining 10% is simply not used much. Re-export price wink diesel fuel - 20 rubles / liter. At the gas station 32 rubles.
  23. Gur
    Gur 19 September 2013 11: 03 New
    +3
    This is already a diagnosis - Klim Chugunkin. 20 years of democracy, universal theft, and continuing social injustice are paying off. Now they will be given as for "Serdyukov billions". And Serdyukov and Vasilyeva are still smiling at large.
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  25. Garrin
    Garrin 19 September 2013 11: 16 New
    +6
    Something it reminded me of this:


    Shura Balaganov: "I am not on purpose ... I am mechanically, citizens ..."
  26. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 19 September 2013 11: 19 New
    +6
    and how many funds were allocated for biathlon and how many bitten off of it no one counted
    1. Babon
      Babon 19 September 2013 11: 28 New
      +5
      Yes that's just the point, decided to arrange a show. They just found the three extreme ones, 7 tons of solariums for such a number of tanks, it was only possible to write off this, such as diesels being warmed up additionally, something could be invented. Apparently, the authorities are covering up something else.
  27. Betahon
    Betahon 19 September 2013 11: 25 New
    +5
    "Need for invention ...." They have that tank biathlon, that the soldiers have stew, that the banner is on the Arbat ....
    1. SUSANIN 777
      SUSANIN 777 19 September 2013 14: 19 New
      +4
      We have a commander, I remember, with a fuel and lubricant specialist the diesel fuel was stolen at the field exit, according to the stories of colleagues there was something about 200 tons (the scale was not small). I didn’t share with the officers, in desperation, they trampled the whole stew of the soldiers and put in a com, upon arrival. Things were agreed with the special campaign, because everything was hushed up at once.
      But the story didn’t end there, and the money from the commander from the safe was stolen by a fighter, a new contractor — he was his confidant, personal driver, and housekeeper. And since he also had access to the official seal, he himself somehow stamped the dismissal.
      But the story does not end there either, along with the fighter and the commander’s money, his wife also disappeared, in the same direction laughing ... Here is such a "santa barbara". smile .
      So that kind of money will not bring good, no matter how you say it.
  28. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 19 September 2013 11: 27 New
    +5
    At this pace, and tanks for biathlon soprut!
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 19 September 2013 11: 34 New
      +1
      and you do not have a photo from your passport ?, very cool
    2. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 19 September 2013 12: 34 New
      +1
      Think about it, the audience is coming, but the performance does not start and does not begin. And when everyone froze, the announcement follows: "The competition is canceled, the tanks have disappeared somewhere."
  29. yanus
    yanus 19 September 2013 11: 39 New
    -2
    Hmm, everyone rinsing Serdyukov in the case of his women? But think about one simple thing - what damage has it done to defenses? Yes, the amounts are large, but thieves. BUT! Sold the empty land for nothing, squeezed the percentage from cleaning parts - how it all relates to defense?
    But the crowds of gunmen who drain fuel from military vehicles, sell spare parts - this is a real threat defense! Here it is necessary to plant for abuse of power. For treason.
    1. Genur
      Genur 19 September 2013 12: 26 New
      +6
      And the liquidation of schools, the defeat of military medicine, the collapse of military intelligence, the planting of BAB at headquarters ...?!?! Etc.
      Was Vasilieva doing this?
      Obviously - not lieutenants with captains.
      1. bairat
        bairat 19 September 2013 13: 14 New
        +4
        Abandoned and already looted military airfields.
  30. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 19 September 2013 11: 52 New
    10
    For 7 tons, they would become criminals, and if they stole an oil refinery or a piece of land from the Moscow Region, they would become "respected businessmen."
  31. Sergey47
    Sergey47 19 September 2013 12: 01 New
    +5
    Everyone decides as his conscience tells him. There is nothing to look at this scum of Stool. Like he can, but why am I worse?
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 19 September 2013 15: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergey47
      Everyone decides as his conscience tells him. There is nothing to look at this scum of Stool. Like he can, but why am I worse?

      And at the same time they think that only Serdyukov is bad.
  32. pensioner
    pensioner 19 September 2013 12: 10 New
    +2
    This is a case from the series "I took it wrong ...". We somehow had one not very smart type of people who commanded 7 rear parts of torpedoes. Little of. He managed 4 pieces. take it out of the territory and hand it over at the price of non-ferrous metal! Found almost instantly ...
  33. nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 19 September 2013 12: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: Jan
    , shoot along with Serdyukov, so that others do not get along well

    For what? A simple car and it does not pull.
  34. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 19 September 2013 12: 24 New
    +1
    And why not surprise? angry
  35. Nikolski1973
    Nikolski1973 19 September 2013 12: 27 New
    +3
    What news they stole seven tones of salary !!!!! And the fact that Serdyukov and Vasilyeva and others like them robbed the entire army is normal. And where did you see the officers, you see who our VVUZ (boarding schools for noble maidens) graduate - that's the only way to call them "students", you need to return the requirements for the VHUZ that were under the USSR as a military institution, then there will be a sense.
  36. nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 19 September 2013 12: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: Nikolski1973
    it is necessary to return the requirements to the military educational institutions that were under the USSR as a military institution, then there will be sense.

    And the initial military training and not life safety in schools, TRP and circles.
  37. givigor71
    givigor71 19 September 2013 13: 02 New
    +3
    The army is a mirror of the state ...
    1. experienced
      experienced 19 September 2013 13: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: givigor71
      The army is a mirror of the state ...

      Bugaga, so far I could not read more dope wassat The army is a shield and a sword of the state, you with a mirror try against someone with a sword and a shield to speak, the result will be predictable ... laughing
      Well, by the way, here already 2/3 members of the forum can only comment on slogans. Is it interesting in life that they also communicate? laughing
      1. givigor71
        givigor71 19 September 2013 16: 04 New
        +1
        You think that if everything is stolen in the country - from simple hard workers to ..., and at this time the army should protect you, for ... who needs you. The military also wants to drive a Mercedes, there is caviar with lobsters and buy property on the Cote d'Azur. And the fact that three morons stole 7 tons of solariums, SO THEY - JUST DEBILS - they were brought up by Serdyukov with their bl .. mi. (sorry if I offended you)...
  38. ty60
    ty60 19 September 2013 13: 03 New
    +1
    not only requirements. Courts of officer honor. Do not shake hands should be stools and others like them!
  39. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 19 September 2013 13: 09 New
    +3
    I do not understand why the people on the forum are moved. YES THIEF !!! It was stolen from the state, from the army ... to strip the epaulettes and out with a wolf ticket. The only way. And even plant. Let me remind you that it was theft in the army that largely destroyed the Russian Empire.
  40. Alekseev
    Alekseev 19 September 2013 13: 10 New
    +4
    Well stole DT ...
    Straight from the "biathlon". And what, in fact, is the difference - from biathlon or from the park of military training equipment? Little by little, he, and other liquid property, was always stolen. Both in tsarist and Soviet times.
    Punish approximately and not make an ordinary case of sensation.
    The problem now is different.
    They steal a lot in many ways, but they don't smell like an approximate punishment. Say, there is no evidence ... request Not the 37th year, you know, in the yard.
  41. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 19 September 2013 13: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: maestro123
    Quote: seasoned
    We are not in 37

    Speaking of the 37th, it turns out interestingly: Khodorkovsky is sitting, and Serdyukov, Vasilyeva are walking.

    If Khodorkovsky was Serdyukov’s son-in-law, he would also walk! Puzikov is walking!
  42. vty971
    vty971 19 September 2013 13: 15 New
    +1
    The salary was increased and the habit of the GSM workers remained to live in a big way.
  43. ilya63
    ilya63 19 September 2013 13: 18 New
    +3
    the article is kind of stupid, they probably just want to distract attention from the serdyuk with the company (by the way, you don’t even hear about him, they’re sanding one of Vasilyev’s switchman, and if you think about it, it’s not without the participation of the president that Seryuk turned things around), and about 3 sheep they just want to make scapegoats, are they really so stupid that they will steal fuel at biathlon competitions, of course, it’s not clear to everyone that the stolen 7 tons wrote off the shortage from the chief of the fuel and lubrication unit (who served in the tank troops will understand that it makes no sense to steal, almost any quantity of fuel and lubricants can be attributed within the framework of the law and not a single check can be attributed, they taught in the USSR to competently cover their backside, but nachs has no access to the unit’s travel documentation and the volume is suitable-7t almost 1 fuel truck) the whole site became rotten some, maybe it’s always been, the conclusion from the article simply stole a fuel truck into prison, stole 16 billion witness until they find a new bread position, like that karapuziki dances ended, it is necessary to share with whom it is necessary.
  44. darksoul
    darksoul 19 September 2013 13: 20 New
    +2
    Oh Russia mother laughing ... don’t sleep ... he didn’t live .... what kind of people are we))))
  45. SUSANIN 777
    SUSANIN 777 19 September 2013 13: 35 New
    +2
    They drag everything from the army that is not pinned, but what is pinned, they tear it off and also drag it wassat .
  46. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 19 September 2013 13: 48 New
    +1
    dismiss deprive ranks and if there are awards
  47. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 19 September 2013 14: 24 New
    +3
    I read the comments.
    Almost swollen from almost half of the opuses ...
    They dragged both honor and conscience and the tsar the priest and mirrors and the defeat of schools and shovels and democrats remembered ...
    Shame on the whole country, to shoot everyone with dishonor ...
    Well, the scribe is simple.

    And where is the purely army - KIND?
    Units of comments, from whom the familiar spirit.

    YES CLOWNS THEY ARE REAL CLOWNS.
    I absolutely agree with the first short and capacious commentary of Sergey (We will return the USSR).

    In the Army, if "got caught and got caught" - answer in all severity.
    Let them answer.
    B.ya, but getting caught on some 7 tons of diesel fuel ... and, besides, sp.zhennye on biathlon ...
    WELL REALLY - CLOWNS. Downs are simple.

    I do not approve of them, I also exported diesel fuel, when the family EAT in the 90's had nothing, and I have 1,5 tons of fuel for only one tank.
    The defense of the country has not suffered a bit drop.
    And I will send NAH everyone who will condemn me, because even the "combatants" could not receive it normally, and when we received it, they did not leave the town on the day of issue, because they were waiting for us.
    So they took out on the sly the "saved" fuel 200 liters. barrels.

    And those who managed to fly into such stupidity and their own greedy stupidity, just ...
    CLOWNS AND DOWNS.
    Scribe. Urine in the head and not gyrus.
    And because of three deb.lov there is nothing to tear the hair on my head with a cry "everything is gone" ... "honor is lost" ...
    1. Aney
      Aney 19 September 2013 15: 37 New
      0
      7 tons of tanning salons in 23 years 7 trains wash colonel epaulettes ...
      It all starts small.
      And now they have something to eat.
    2. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 19 September 2013 17: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: Aleks tv
      And those who managed to fly into such stupidity and their own greedy stupidity, just ...
      CLOWNS and DOWNS.
      Scribe. Urine in the head and not gyrus.
      And because of three deb.lov there is nothing to tear the hair on my head with a cry "everything is gone" ... "honor is lost" ...


      I can explain to the minusers once again what I wanted to say, but in other words:

      Vasiliev sticks out at home, but here ...
      Pull out to the all-Russian (!!!) level news that 3 ave. durka stole 7 tons of diesel ...
      They are either really CLOUNDS, or this ... someone higher than the shoulder straps decided to bend to the high authorities with their zeal ... and simply set the guys up.
      Such a trifle cannot be taken out of the hut, but they solve the issue on the spot, i.e. in part.
      They are now torn to pieces by the whole angry Russian public.
      Who is seen, servicemen?
      Nah commander litter "outdoor"?
      Yes, not a joke.
      The same good-natured “public” is completely unaware that diesel fuel in the Army is “liquid money”, for which, with skillful use, guard rooms are built and paths paved with asphalt, sleepers are taken to raise equipment for storage, paint is created to ennoble the barracks.
      Do you think who built the checkpoints in the Czechs? Do you have a construction battalion with all the material means and built a defensive structure according to the approved project?
      Pipes.
      They themselves built.
      Guess - HOW?
      The army is not quite a simple mechanism, as many people think because of the monitor screen.

      So I say that if it's not a setup and they really decided on biathlon (!!!) sp.zdit diesel fuel, then they REALLY CLOWNS.
      Here it is possible - DRAWBRAIN, rather than banal theft.
      If so - they are a scribe in the current situation. And rightly so, just stupid.
  48. ZU-23
    ZU-23 19 September 2013 14: 32 New
    +2
    shameful rats, such scum even raise wages Che, they will still hide am
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 19 September 2013 14: 59 New
      +3
      I believe that they need to be scolded well so that they do not come across such
      1. military
        military 19 September 2013 15: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Soldier's grandson
        I believe that they need to be scolded well so that they do not come across such

        right! ... scolding in a general meeting ... with strict reprimands ... in their chests ... laughing
        1. ZU-23
          ZU-23 19 September 2013 15: 51 New
          +1
          put them on a crocodile, for a couple of days laughing
  49. starhina01
    starhina01 19 September 2013 14: 57 New
    +4
    who served in the army doesn’t laugh at the circus soldier and I can’t laugh from such comrades laughing
  50. maxiban
    maxiban 19 September 2013 14: 57 New
    +3
    Switchmen. Such things are not done without the knowledge of the com. Unless the communal unit is not loshara, but in Alabino (the otmazno-indicative part) there was no loshar and no.