Yevkurov becomes tougher: demolishing a house and selecting land for aiding extremists

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Since 8 September, Yunus-Bek Yevkurov officially took office as head of the Republic of Ingushetia. This is the second presidential term for Yevkurov. During the first term, the head of Ingushetia was subjected to large-scale criticism not only in terms of the administration of economic policy in the region entrusted to him to govern, but also in terms of countering extremist activity. At the same time, the critics of the economic direction of the Ingush President’s work perfectly understood that it is almost impossible to raise production, raise the standard of living and develop small and medium-sized businesses in the republic given the numerous foci of cultivating the extremist underground. On it also did, as they say, a discount.

Yevkurov becomes tougher: demolishing a house and selecting land for aiding extremists


In a recent article on the Military Review “Terrorist activity in Ingushetia does not decrease” Lists numerous terrorist acts that were carried out by representatives of gangs on Ingush territory in recent months. The number of terrorist attacks in Ingushetia made it possible to say that Yunus-Bek Yevkurov did not control the situation and did not have that effective plan that could lead to the defeat of the terrorist underground, which had long roots in the republic. The criticism of the relative anti-terrorist softness of the Ingush president, by the way, came from his colleagues.
One of these critics was and, apparently, continues to be a "big friend" of Yevkurov, Ramzan Kadyrov. In various interviews, Kadyrov often claimed that bandits come to Chechnya from Ingushetia, and that Yevkurov needs to be tougher with representatives of terrorist groups. Yevkurov himself did not always respond to such attacks of Kadyrov. However, to leave them without any attention at all, clearly could not. Inside Evkurov, obviously, everything was floundering, - Kadyrov's criticism clearly hurt the President of Ingushetia.


It is not known whether Yevkurov was exclusively influenced by Kadyrov’s speeches, or whether the general negative background of his work in the sector of ensuring republican security simply began. However, it was after his re-election-appointment to the post of head of Ingushetia Yevkurov decided to respond to all his critics with a tough security innovation. After another terrorist act on the territory of the republic (undermining a suicide bomber in a car stuffed with explosives), as a result of which law enforcement officials Yunus-Bek Yevkurov went on a real path of war with a bandit underground. His innovation concerns, first of all, those who somehow sympathize with the militants, provide them with housing, shelter, and supply food and medicine. For such "sympathizers", in other words, accomplices of terrorists, the Ingush security officials will now firmly take on. Yevkurov promised to demolish houses and take land from those who support gangs.

Yevkurov:
For the edification of people who sympathize and help criminals, the homes of families who sheltered the bandits will be torn down and land plots taken away.


Similar actions will be applied not only to, say so, outside supporters, but also to their own families and to themselves as well.

Yevkurov:
The house in which the gangster lived will be demolished and the land withdrawn. At this place we will build an apartment building for the village specialists. In addition, all those who will provide shelter, food and other assistance to gangsters will become defendants in criminal cases of aiding the militants. It should be clear to everyone: if you let a person into a house, you are responsible for him.


But the decision, frankly, non-standard. It is tough and unequivocally forcing those very “sympathizers” to think ten times before giving the basement of their house for a caches. weapons or to treat the militants with fresh lamb ... Such a solution in the conditions of the most difficult situation in Ingushetia in terms of security looks like one of the possible effective moves. Yevkurov is a military officer, and he shows that he is ready to begin governing the republic with genuine military methods, since the situation in the region itself is literally obligating to that.

Naturally, our hyperliberal "colleagues" immediately broke out with materials dedicated to the fact that Yevkurov, with his statements, literally spits on the Criminal Code. Like, in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, no article prescribes such a punishment as the destruction of dwellings and the selection of land property of criminals, members of their families and other persons who, one way or another, knew about criminal persons. With his threats, Yevkurov allegedly plunges Ingushetia into the Middle Ages, implants something from the field of fascism. In general, the hyperliberals in their repertoire ... It is only terrorists, in their opinion, everything is allowed to be razed to the ground. And all the rest should obedient sheep to contemplate what they do these nonhumans. You can’t touch - the law, you know ... Twenty people were broken by shrapnel, fifteen of them - deadly, damage to property - a hundred million, dozens of children left orphans, and the court, you see, thinks: give life or find it insane and "treat a little" ... However, we have a humane law against those who create lawlessness, and what a severe law we sometimes have for those who try to live by the law ...

Yes, Yevkurov, with its innovation, of course, steps over certain legislative norms. But if, for more than five years now, extremists have been trying to step over him, what is his way out: to continue to threaten with a finger and say that our courts will punish you? Obviously, for the head of Ingushetia, that very hour X came, after which either HE or HIS ...

By the way, the idea of ​​demolishing the houses of terrorists and their accomplices, by and large, does not even belong to Evkurov. This practice was actively used by Israel during the so-called retaliation against the terrorists associated with Hamas and other extremist organizations. Huge bulldozers demolished houses that belonged to the militants and their accomplices. True, today this practice had to be at least suspended, since after these actions, the situation in the region was heating up with a new force - persons left homeless opened into the ranks of terrorist organizations. Even the glorification of those whose housing was destroyed by Israeli special equipment was being discussed in the Gaza Strip.
This Israeli experience cannot be ignored by Yevkurov. Of course, the Israel-Hamas relationship is not at all the same as the Ingushetia-motley militant relationship. Israel is trying to defend and strengthen the borders of its state, fighting, mainly, with the enemy outside. And Yevkurov perfectly understands that he needs to fight, first of all, with the internal enemy. In such a struggle, you will have to be tough and, at the same time, extremely attentive, in order to avoid mistakes that can lead to an even greater tension of the situation.

Frankly, I would like to hope that Yunus-Bek Yevkurov will restore order in his republic, after which it is already possible to talk about the possibility of an economic boom. In the meantime, masked people armed and tied up with explosives under the banner of radicalism are hosted in Ingushetia, you can talk for a long time about the rule of law and strict observance of his letter ...
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  1. +45
    19 September 2013 08: 35
    For the edification of people who sympathize and help criminals, the homes of families who sheltered the bandits will be torn down and land plots taken away.

    It is advisable to demolish houses along with their contents, directly with accomplices "with children and households" -then the result will be.
    1. Crocodile
      -33
      19 September 2013 09: 17
      Of course, it’s better not to demolish, but to level with the inhabitants!
      But when will the long-WRITTEN laws work in our country, and not momentarily invented by another "celestial-servant of the people"?
      For the edification of people who sympathize and help criminals, the homes of families who sheltered the bandits will be torn down and land plots taken away.
      What for all laws are passed fool angry wassat stop
      Then it’s easy to accept one - at the discretion of the next gentleman!
      1. +36
        19 September 2013 11: 09
        Quote: Crocodile
        Of course, it’s better not to demolish, but to level with the inhabitants!

        Of course, aligning with the inhabitants is not legal, but isolating them from society for long periods and with confiscation of property is necessary. If there is no such article in the Law, then it must be adopted. The response to the crime must be adequate and have an educational effect.
        1. +7
          19 September 2013 17: 17
          Quote: Nick
          with confiscation of property necessary

          The introduction of confiscation of property into the law will make it possible to seize houses and lands.
          1. +9
            19 September 2013 17: 18
            You can still bury tovarisch in pigskin
            1. biglow
              +7
              19 September 2013 19: 30
              Quote: Pilat2009
              You can still bury tovarisch in pigskin

              good pig farming in Russia must be objected
              1. surveyor
                -1
                21 September 2013 02: 00
                Well this is not our method! not Brazilian like that! Evkurov MAN. After all, they kept foreign tanks in RPG in Yugoslavia.
            2. +1
              20 September 2013 17: 34
              Quote: Pilat2009
              You can still bury tovarisch in pigskin

              It is possible if he denies traditional Islam. Or just pretends to be a believer.
              The concepts of the Koran should be explained not by representatives of new movements (like Protestants in Christianity) but by preachers of the original interpretation of the Koran.
          2. +15
            19 September 2013 17: 30
            Quote: Pilat2009
            The introduction of confiscation of property into the law will make it possible to seize houses and lands.

            Sales legislation does not need to be changed - such houses and the land beneath them, from the point of view of the Criminal Code, are not property, but instruments of crime (like a fomka or a pistol) - since terrorist acts are committed with their help.
            And the instrument of crime must be seized and destroyed.
        2. +3
          19 September 2013 21: 32
          Quote: Nick
          Of course, aligning with the inhabitants is not legal, but isolating them from society for long periods and with confiscation of property is necessary. If there is no such article in the Law, then it must be adopted.


          right. the letter of the law should work. and Yevkurov began to act by Kadyrov’s methods. And what? Do you think after that those who run with guns in the mountains and forests will become smaller?
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          2. +1
            24 September 2013 08: 15
            Quote: lonely
            Quote: Nick
            Of course, aligning with the inhabitants is not legal, but isolating them from society for long periods and with confiscation of property is necessary. If there is no such article in the Law, then it must be adopted.


            right. the letter of the law should work. and Yevkurov began to act by Kadyrov’s methods. And what? Do you think after that those who run with guns in the mountains and forests will become smaller?

            To deprive the militants of supply and shelter is not Kadyrov’s method, but the Russian general Ermolov’s. And it worked with 100% efficiency.
      2. +12
        19 September 2013 14: 03
        Quote: Crocodile
        What for all laws are passed fool angry wassat stop


        What buddy laughing shaved beard itches ??
        1. +1
          19 September 2013 22: 36
          High five drinks Well, okay, what about beer, I’ll break the regime
      3. bif
        +5
        19 September 2013 20: 37
        Recently there has been a tendency - The severity of Russian laws is compensated by their NON-COMPLIANCE ... As soon as they begin to comply with at least half of the laws, it will be purely like in paradise ... a precedent is needed for someone to start, then go "like clockwork" .. .)))
      4. 0
        19 September 2013 21: 09
        It’s immediately obvious that next to you your comrades didn’t die and they didn’t blow you up in the car.
      5. Crocodile
        +2
        19 September 2013 21: 47
        Looks badly explained ...
        Why bother? Housing and land are also property that can be confiscated in accordance with applicable law!
        The adopted laws and legal measures are quite enough to restore order, just work, and do not throw the next slogans!
        Quote: Geisenberg
        What buddy shaved beard itches ??

        laughing Have fun from the heart! love
        Quote: Geisenberg
        Yevkurov, oh well done.

        And how much did he do while in power?
        This is Evkurov’s second presidential term.
        Ali was missing something to improve his situation?
        When will we start judging by business, and not by words and slogans? Breaking does not build ...
        1. +1
          20 September 2013 12: 06
          As we all love to find the weed in someone else’s garden, and we don’t pay attention to our overgrowth. When you’re allies even want to put sticks in the wheels of a stick, you don’t understand right away. And Yevkurov was in that position. And the liberals, those who shouts, they say that criminal law is being violated, I would advise to relocate them to Dagestan together with their families. Now, when they felt themselves and their families safe, what did they shout?
      6. Dovmont
        +2
        19 September 2013 21: 47
        Terrorists and their accomplices outlaw themselves by their activities! Without recognizing the laws of the state against which they are fighting, they cannot claim that they would be subject to the laws of that state protecting the rights of citizens, i.e. they must be illegal.
      7. clinic1
        +2
        19 September 2013 22: 45
        In the end, the animals themselves realized that to put an end to all this can only be Stalinist methods!
      8. +3
        20 September 2013 12: 58
        Question Yevkurov raised is not entirely simple. Hard's opinion.

        Probably aware of new initiatives? I must say right away that I am against it. At least because it is very difficult to find out whether the owner of the house knew that he was a bandit (of course, most often they either know or understand - it can be seen from their behavior), and if he knew, did he voluntarily help them? After all, one cannot demand heroism from the average man. When a person realizes that his family will be threatened, it is very difficult for him to act as heroes. He might have stayed away from all this with all his soul. But when a barrel is put to your head, and your wife and children are looking at all this, who after your death there will be no one to protect and they will be left alone with those who kill you - it is difficult to refuse the "tempting offer".

        At the same time, we must not forget that there are also accomplices who immediately report to the law enforcement authorities about the fact of coercion to aiding. And no one, of course, advertises this. They continue to help with the approval of the operas, which allows them to identify the whole chain and take the bandits directly for the genitals. And the opera, of course, for the safety of man and his family, will not tell anyone that he helped authorized. And how can they look into the eyes of a person who helped develop a group of bandits, and they demolished the house for this?

        All residents of the republic already know that they can be left without a home if we suddenly storm. To avoid unnecessary sacrifices - without remorse, we can roll out the house with armored personnel carriers to zero. All are well aware of this. Once they took one bandit, he said that he hid in one house for three days and hid it in the basement of the IED. We arrived, bombers withdrew a bomb. When the owner of the house was brought to confrontation - he rushed to strangle the bandit. And when he was handcuffed, he nevertheless managed to ride his face out of his face. The bandits do not care much for the families of accomplices. They cherish their skin in the first place. Scary to drag an IED with you? I stop in the house of the one who sheltered me. And if the explosion engineers did not dare to pull out? Three children would be left without a roof over their heads.
        1. andruha70
          +1
          20 September 2013 18: 47
          But when a barrel is put to your head, and your wife and children are looking at all this, who after your death there will be no one to protect and they will be left alone with those who kill you - it is difficult to refuse the "tempting offer".
          very correct remark. beautiful "words", of course, can be uttered, but where is the mechanism for their implementation? how and who, will determine, find out, prove - voluntarily or under duress was complicity? and where is the guarantee that some "werewolf in uniform" whose "nephew" is engaged in the construction business will not ask his accomplice - come on, take this "lemon", sit with that neighbor for an hour, we'll slap you both , we will otmazh then you, and we will roll in aiding him. maybe it's better to work out some other option? for example, every militant who handed over a "colleague" a cash prize and a ticket to Qatar or Saudi ... wink
      9. 0
        20 September 2013 17: 28
        Quote: Crocodile
        Of course, it’s better not to demolish, but to level with the inhabitants!
        But when will the long-WRITTEN laws work in our country, and not momentarily invented by another "celestial-servant of the people"?
        For the edification of people who sympathize and help criminals, the homes of families who sheltered the bandits will be torn down and land plots taken away.
        What for all laws are passed fool angry wassat stop
        Then it’s easy to accept one - at the discretion of the next gentleman!

        Quote: Crocodile
        Of course, it’s better not to demolish, but to level with the inhabitants!
        But when will the long-WRITTEN laws work in our country, and not momentarily invented by another "celestial-servant of the people"?
        For the edification of people who sympathize and help criminals, the homes of families who sheltered the bandits will be torn down and land plots taken away.
        What for all laws are passed fool angry wassat stop
        Then it’s easy to accept one - at the discretion of the next gentleman!

        There are state laws (adopted under Western influence), but there are human laws. In the Caucasus - blood feud, and the Slavs had a choice or repay with blood or give All that you have. And here there is a choice: either in action movies and without everything you will remain, or work. Less money, but not taken away.
    2. vadimus
      +27
      19 September 2013 09: 42
      I agree! If evil is not stopped in the bud, then it is of little use. And these creatures understand only power ...
      1. +1
        20 September 2013 07: 34
        And not just power. To give a slap in the face in response is not enough. They only understand the power of a staggeringly cruel one. Almost in the style of Genghis Khan. Because they themselves are mentally in the Middle Ages or even in the Middle Ages. Despite using all the benefits of modernity.
        This is the whole difficulty of dealing with them. Stalin understood this and acted accordingly. Therefore, the result was in a relatively short time.
        Alas. But it is so.
    3. -10
      19 September 2013 12: 37
      What, the end justifies the means, yes?
      1. +7
        19 September 2013 13: 50
        Quote: Damask
        What, the end justifies the means, yes?

        Yes, to a certain extent, it justifies!
        The situation is extreme, however!
        In such times, emergency measures were always introduced in normal states!
        Remember, at least, Prime Minister Stolypin P.A.
        And these measures should be introduced legally, so that later liberals (rather their owners) did not write off everything to Yevkurov.
        The militants' accomplices are worse than the terrorists themselves, and they must know for sure what they are doing when helping bandits. The fact that the bandits are their brothers, sisters, uncles, etc., is their problem.
        We didn’t impose such a kindred on them!
        1. 0
          23 September 2013 15: 12
          Extremes are always bad. Learn history, with the same Shamil, Kadyrov senior agreed, because doing so stupidly cheaper, bloodless and calmer in the long run.
          Demolish houses need to be very careful, with an understanding of what you are doing.
          In the short term, it sounds cool, but in general a hat.
          If there is no trust in the authorities, the youth will go to the mountains.
          Give people work, education, they will work and study.
          Take down his house - he will be angry and hungry.
      2. +4
        19 September 2013 14: 03
        Quote: Damask
        What, the end justifies the means, yes?


        In this case, the end generates funds.
        1. 0
          23 September 2013 15: 14
          Here you can’t figure out where the chicken is and where the egg is.
          We need a strong power, able to solve problems, demolish a house - this is not a solution.
      3. +1
        19 September 2013 16: 35
        In this case, yes.
      4. Kubanets
        +6
        19 September 2013 16: 43
        Respect. I will answer. With the disappearance of the Article on the right of society to have social (general moral) protection from persons presenting threats to it (see execution), we deprived society of adequate protection
      5. 0
        20 September 2013 17: 40
        Quote: Damask
        What, the end justifies the means, yes?

        No. Hit one cheek, turn the other. And he himself in the face.
        They love the weak and are afraid of the strong. If we show strength, they will go to Europe, the USA. Where it’s easier to kill and rob.
    4. honest jew
      +12
      19 September 2013 13: 39
      well done Yevkurov, he’s taking an example from us, he would still be with us in Israel for an internship !!! hi
      1. +15
        19 September 2013 14: 05
        Quote: honest Jew
        well done Yevkurov, he’s taking an example from us, he would still be with us in Israel for an internship !!! hi


        ... oh hell ... I never thought I'd say that: Thanks to Israel for the idea of ​​how to fight terrorism.

        hi

        PS: Why should he go to your internship? He is not a terrorist ...
        1. Current 72
          +13
          19 September 2013 17: 29
          So you do not confuse terrorism with the struggle for independence of Palestine for self-determination. Example: Israel was allocated, according to the UN decision, 14000 square kilometers of Palestinian territory, and at the moment, Israel already occupies 28000 square kilometers of Palestinian territory. Israel is in fact, a terrorist-invader, and should not be confused with gangs in Ingushetia. And Yevkurov did the right thing at this stage. And there’s nothing for us, he is learning from Israel, like that.
          1. netMolotov
            +1
            20 September 2013 11: 53
            Current 72 - Palestinian independence struggle for self-determination. Do not confuse him with gangs in Ingushetia.


            Sorry for the question - why are the gangs fighting in Ingushetia? After all, they also scream for independence - only from Russia.
            1. In the reeds
              -1
              22 September 2013 10: 22
              For free Syria, the Caucasus, Palestine, penguins ...
        2. AVV
          +1
          19 September 2013 17: 29
          For an internship, you can be much closer to Kadyrov !!!
          1. +1
            19 September 2013 20: 12
            About Kadyrov is not necessary. An example is the explosion in Sernovodsky and the situation around Assinovskaya. District 13.
        3. biglow
          +3
          19 September 2013 19: 29
          Quote: Geisenberg
          Quote: honest Jew
          well done Yevkurov, he’s taking an example from us, he would still be with us in Israel for an internship !!! hi


          ... oh hell ... I never thought I'd say that: Thanks to Israel for the idea of ​​how to fight terrorism.

          hi

          PS: Why should he go to your internship? He is not a terrorist ...

          not Israel came up with such methods. Under Yermolov in the Caucasus, similar methods were also in use.
      2. +3
        19 September 2013 15: 59
        Quote: Honest Jew
        it would still be to us in Israel for an internship !!! hi

        Cool!!! We teach some to blow up, others to mine. Well, however!
      3. +3
        19 September 2013 16: 30
        well done Yevkurov, he’s taking an example from us, he would still be with us in Israel for an internship !!!
        Here you are not the first, there is an article on Ermolov on VO, so Yevkurov recalls his methods.
        Ermolov punished the “non-peaceful” highlanders mercilessly, according to the law of wartime - settlements were destroyed, all those who resisted were destroyed, residents were resettled on flat lands. Fines were taken from auls that were found to be robberies, as a rule, part of herds, cattle went to feed the troops. According to Eastern customs, the Caucasian governor ordered the taking of hostages from the families of the local nobility, the elders - Amanats.
        hi
      4. GREAT RUSSIA
        +2
        19 September 2013 17: 59
        Yevkurov is good, he knows his business. But Kadyrov is surprised that most of the militants appear in him in Chechnya and then they spread throughout the Caucasus. The question is not where they appear. It's like a disease, first you need to find out the medical history, then study the symptoms, and then heal. And then the militants in all the republics of the Caucasus appear.
        1. +3
          19 September 2013 21: 37
          Well, as a person living in the North Caucasus, you probably know local customs. Here, from Kadyrov’s actions, militants appear and crawl through the northern Caucasus. Hundreds of people were abducted and then found dead only because they were suspected of something. You Ibrahim know that such is blood feud. here is the replenishment of bearded men. and bearded men are not fools, they instantly take advantage of the situation in their bloodthirsty goals
    5. +6
      19 September 2013 14: 02
      Quote: Greyfox
      For the edification of people who sympathize and help criminals, the homes of families who sheltered the bandits will be torn down and land plots taken away.

      It is advisable to demolish houses along with their contents, directly with accomplices "with children and households" -then the result will be.


      It will be of course. Then the bandits will begin to lay such houses up to the roof with hexagen.

      Yevkurov, oh well done.

      Demolition of houses and selection of land in my opinion is not enough, it requires complete confiscation and seizure of accounts, plus a link wherever you go to the world.

      Everything is true extremism must be deprived of the halo of the struggle for justice, it must be made of it an unprofitable, shameful and dangerous occupation.

      In my memory, this is the first person who realized how to deal with extermism. May God grant him the strength to cope and convey this thought to the rest.
      1. +5
        19 September 2013 17: 14
        Quote: Geisenberg
        In my memory, this is the first person who realized how to deal with extermism.

        An emergency requires emergency measures. Yevkurov is the first person who did not flirt with bandits. If our in the Chechen company would behave like that. Many of our soldiers would not have got a bullet in the back.
    6. Ruslan_F38
      +9
      19 September 2013 14: 04
      "Evkurov:
      The house in which the bandit lived will be demolished and the land confiscated. At this place we will build an apartment building for the village specialists. In addition, everyone who will provide shelter, food and other assistance to the bandits becomes defendants in criminal cases of aiding militants. It should be clear to everyone: if you let a person into the house, you are responsible for him. "- the right decision, only it was necessary to make it yesterday. And houses should be demolished and apartments with land should be seized in other regions of the Russian Federation - the benefit of accomplices throughout the country There are many, and not only in the Caucasus. Firms to take away, to devastate accounts, property, in short, to brand everything in public with shame! So that the earth would burn under your feet!
      1. goldfinger
        +4
        19 September 2013 18: 30
        Neighbor Belarus. It was easier for the Israelis to carry out this operation. The enemy is against the enemy. And who will be put behind the leverage of the bulldozer? Ingush? Believed with difficulty, knowing the mountain customs. Migrant workers from the Smolensk region? It’s also hard to imagine. If only the army, special forces in masked balaclava. Or miners. Again, a surge of hatred for servants. And it’s not a soldier’s business. I'm afraid the next one is blah blah blah.
        1. goldfinger
          +4
          19 September 2013 20: 09
          And the most important thing. As long as there is a huge, overwhelming number of traitors (I can’t find another word), their Slavic people - bandits, traitor policemen, thieves at all levels, bribes from the hospital to the cemetery, it’s ridiculous to demand law-abidingness from more “criminal” peoples.
        2. OPATOP
          +1
          20 September 2013 13: 59
          Quote: goldfinger
          And who will be put behind the leverage of the bulldozer?

          Bulldozer. And around there will be representatives of the authorities taking to isolation cells and initiating new criminal cases on aiding terrorism, those who will interfere with this process.
    7. 0
      19 September 2013 20: 28
      Quote: Greyfox
      It is advisable to demolish houses along with their contents, directly with accomplices "with children and households" -then the result will be.

      and here you work for the public, you are minus from me! killing children, women and the elderly is the last thing to do! But it is normal for the whole society to refuse to live on the territory of people who raised the territory, having demolished their house and send them with a knife to another country, even to Africa, they have not learned how to live humanly!
      1. +2
        19 September 2013 21: 40
        if a person is guilty of something, there is a law. The law enforcement system must prove guilty, bring him to court and punish. Let us reason with logic. If someone's father helped the bandits with something, this does not mean that both the wife and children are to blame. and destroying their house will lead to the fact that the son will also join those who blow up houses and metro stations. And what good fellows are these unfortunate rulers7
    8. +1
      19 September 2013 23: 00
      Oh, they’ll kill a man ...
    9. Quiet
      0
      20 September 2013 20: 04
      It is advisable to demolish at home

      And can act as the French ??? They began to bury the remains of the carcasses of terrorists previously wrapped in pork skins !!! am And the mustache has stopped !!! And our grief rulers of will power are not enough .....
      1. 0
        20 September 2013 20: 30
        Quote: Quiet
        And can act as the French ??? They began to bury the remains of the carcasses of terrorists previously wrapped in pork skins !!! And the mustache has stopped !!!

        They were English, in Indonesia, in my opinion. The French have nothing to do with this.
    10. -1
      20 September 2013 22: 41
      no, there was a smart proposal to enclose and apply small aircraft in the Czech Republic before dusting dust decay 50 years clean territory
    11. IT
      IT
      0
      20 September 2013 23: 24
      there may be children.
      There is also always the possibility of a miscarriage of justice. If the country can repeal laws, then lawlessness will come. It's worse
    12. +1
      21 September 2013 04: 22
      and the court and the investigation, they didn’t seem to be canceled - the question is what they do, what they want and nothing happens - confiscate it to normal people - do massive open processes for aiding - the result will be no less
  2. +20
    19 September 2013 08: 36
    The articles of the law on the punishment for aiding terrorists do not work ... to equate accomplices with terrorists and for life ... you watch the interview, the accomplices are bleating like they didn’t know ... but they took the loot properly. The seizure of houses and land is legal ... how instrument of crime.
    1. Pit
      Pit
      +15
      19 September 2013 08: 46
      Quote: Strashila
      Articles of the law on punishment for aiding terrorists do not work ...
      they did not know did not know ... but they took the loot regularly.

      It's time to return an exceptional measure of social protection for the terrorists.
      And accomplices to hard labor, in order to work out the damage done.
      1. +7
        19 September 2013 08: 53
        "It's time to return an exceptional measure of social protection for terrorists." ... then not by shooting, but by hanging with the addition of domoki about Ermolov's pork skin.
    2. +7
      19 September 2013 14: 28
      -Demolition of the house and the selection of land for ASSUMPTION to extremists.
      An employee of the justice system / “major” committed an unlawful act against a representative of a weaker kind. Where to go? And who will establish the accomplices, the most humane court in the world? When your family is behind you, and the thugs demand food and overnight, refuse, they say, Yevkurov does not allow. There will be something to profit for everyone who catches a fish in the muddy Caucasian water ... Someone liked the site, and someone's wife / sister of the "accomplice". In Israel, this is the case with the homes of terrorists, but that would be accomplices. And for whose means to demolish and build ???
      It is necessary to arrest the closest relatives, parents, brothers and sisters, FOR COMMUNITY TO TERRORISM according to article 205.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. AND TAKE A BUSINESS!
      Under Stalin, in this situation, the whole family felled ... and since "now is not 37 years old" - deported to Europe, to human rights defenders.
      PS Strange, the "fighters" receive titles of awards, and the "bandits" for some reason more and more. Stability, in a word ...
      PP.S Cancel moratorium on death penalty for bandits (ALL MASTS).
      1. 0
        19 September 2013 17: 14
        Quote: knn54
        When your family is behind you, and the thugs demand food and overnight, refuse, they say, Yevkurov does not allow.

        You are right, there are situations when you will not refuse. They’ll kill simply. And you and the family. In each situation it is necessary to understand, and not immediately with a bulldozer.
        Quote: knn54
        It is necessary to arrest the closest relatives, parents, brothers and sisters, FOR COMMUNITY TO TERRORISM according to article 205.1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. AND TAKE A BUSINESS!

        And here they are right. Relatives should be in charge. This is exactly in the Caucasian tradition. This will understand.
        Quote: knn54
        deport to Europe, to human rights defenders.

        And I do not agree with this. Soft. Let them sit here.
        And on the subject, at the place of serving the sentence: in the Caucasian national republics, it is necessary to eliminate all correctional facilities, convicted of any crimes, to be transported to regions with a more "favorable" climate. Tongues have already been spoken about serving the sentence "at home", but there is no sense yet, although this decision is on the surface. However, the "opinion of the diasporas" outweighs common sense and the logic of the struggle.
  3. +26
    19 September 2013 08: 39
    It’s a normal decision, and the death row remains to be buried publicly, in the pork skin. Have you forgotten Yermolov’s experience? What kind of paradise will Muslims know for such an Islamist. The only thing now is howl will not rise comic everywhere. Human rights and other crap ...
    1. Pit
      Pit
      +10
      19 September 2013 08: 49
      Quote: domokl
      Human rights and other crap ...

      And it's time to forget about this crap and those who, with these theses, begin to justify ghouls, judge as accomplices, indicatively and without alleviating.
      1. +9
        19 September 2013 09: 13
        Quote: Pit
        Права человека

        Quote: Pit
        And it's time to forget about this crap and those who with these theses begin to justify ghouls

        Or, on the contrary, remember, it's about the rights of those innocent people who are kidnapped, killed and blown up by these bandits, people who are forced to live in constant expectation of all this.
      2. +15
        19 September 2013 11: 40
        Quote: Pit
        And about this crap it's time to forget

        The fact of the matter is that a war is going on, and we judge by peaceful laws. It’s necessary to clearly say that terrorists are outlawed and will not be judged as bandits, but as it should be judged by murderers in wartime. Without any discounts on peace and laws. I must say. And then there would have been Budanov, there would have been many other soldiers and officers sold by the authorities for their honesty and loyalty to duty.
        1. +4
          19 September 2013 15: 50
          If someone who is not empowered with authority to carry military weapons takes it into his hands, he is already a criminal, a bandit and a threat to the population. And it is no longer necessary to extend human and civil rights to it. Having taken up a machine gun, he goes to war, but in a war, enemies are not judged, they are destroyed. No jury and no witnesses. This is the law of war. It's just time to understand that the territory of the Caucasus republics is a special zone in which wartime never passes. And live with it. So it will be better first of all to the civilians of these republics themselves, and at the same time to all the inhabitants of our country. There are examples in history when this situation led to success.
    2. +9
      19 September 2013 08: 53
      Quote: domokl
      And the remains of suicide bombers must be buried publicly, in pig's skin.

      And to re-educate accomplices of terrorists, feeding fat in the zone. fellow
      1. +5
        19 September 2013 11: 42
        Quote: GreatRussia
        And to re-educate accomplices of terrorists, feeding fat in the zone.

        We have not mastered a lot of islands in the Arctic Ocean ... There you can feed anything ... pioneers laughing
        1. +3
          19 September 2013 12: 27
          Quote: domokl

          We have not mastered a bunch of islands in the Arctic Ocean.

          I agree. To demolish the homes of terrorist accomplices, confiscate plots of land, while the relatives of the accomplices should pay for the demolition of the house (so that everyone understands what the complicity of the Shaitans is) The very remaining homeless to resettle in ... Russia .... for the Arctic Circle. For fraternal assistance to the northern peoples in the cause of reindeer husbandry, reproduction of the population and the fight against rampant drinking. They realized that they would arrange propagandists for a healthy, saver lifestyle, popularizers for reindeer husbandry and send them on creative business trips to the North Caucasus.
    3. +9
      19 September 2013 09: 03
      Now the howl rises not comic everywhere. Human rights and other crap ...

      I completely agree with you. Having communicated with these ... individuals by occupation, I can say that it will be so. Howling, tantrums, public fainting, drooling, snot, foam from the mouth, shaking the head and all limbs for various murderers and rapists, i.e. those whom these same p.z. considered "prisoners of conscience" (well, they paid for it). But if you ask a question head-on about
      Twenty people were shattered by fragments, of which fifteen were fatal, .. dozens of children left orphans
      - what to do with these people and who will protect them ... ohhh, I’ll inform you, here the show will continue with renewed vigor.
      What, however, is the humane law we have for those who commit lawlessness, and what sometimes we have a harsh law for those who try to live by the law ...
      Yes. A hundred times - yes. Unfortunately.
      1. +7
        19 September 2013 11: 45
        Quote: Alvin
        - what to do with these people and who will protect them ... ohhh, I will report to you, here the show will continue with renewed vigor

        I repeat ... The President must clearly say that war is going on and the laws of war will be applied to terrorists. Without any discounts. In my opinion, it is high time for our soldiers and officers to understand that they are doing the right and necessary thing. That they will not be abandoned and will not surrender, for the sake of any political goals ...
    4. yan
      +7
      19 September 2013 13: 40
      when houses are blown up, peaceful ones are at home, in Russia the supporters of liberalism don’t even remember much about human rights, so why look back at the howl destroying the lair of non-human beings. Well done Yevkurov.
    5. +5
      19 September 2013 14: 07
      Quote: domokl
      The normal decision. And the remains of suicide bombers must be buried publicly, in the pig


      You cannot bury terrorists. Burn in pork fat, lower the ashes into the sewers, so that they rest as they lived - in shit.
      1. +5
        19 September 2013 15: 41
        We must stop looking to the west and the so-called human rights defenders who for some reason protect only bandits and terrorists.
        1. +5
          19 September 2013 17: 30
          Quote: Hiking
          which for some reason protect only bandits and terrorists.

          "Human Rights Defenders" are paid bawlers. Who paid for it? The West. Those who benefit from destabilization in Russia. Terrorists and all sorts of trash are financed and used by the West in their own interests, and while we look back at the screams and howls about "human rights" and the courts "play justice", there will be no peace in the country, but houses with sleeping residents will explode, idlers will use our money to build palaces and mosques. Slobbering media and "human rights activists" are enemies of Russia.
        2. GREAT RUSSIA
          +4
          19 September 2013 18: 05
          I have already said this, but I will say it again. As Molotov said: "If the West condemns us, then we are following the right path. But if the West praises us, then we must immediately turn off and find other ways."
          1. +2
            19 September 2013 18: 27
            I completely agree with you, And if from the western side you can hear a howling dog whose pinch yay ..., well, say the tail, the door. Then you need not stop, but rather increase the pressure. hi
            1. GREAT RUSSIA
              +2
              19 September 2013 18: 33
              I agree. I think that they need not only to push the tail. They are not only jackals. They are generally a hybrid of all animals. Tear off the tail, it will grow like a lizard.
              1. +4
                19 September 2013 18: 48
                Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
                They are generally a hybrid of all animals

                Well, not everyone, among animals there are many who may be offended by such a comparison. laughing
                1. GREAT RUSSIA
                  +2
                  19 September 2013 18: 57
                  Yes, I agree. For example, a RUSSIAN bear or a wolf (understand one of the symbols of my people among young people). There are many examples. I completely agree.
        3. 0
          24 September 2013 11: 00
          So it’s like that, though only in order to stop looking back to the west, you don’t have to depend on it in any way. In our realities, any action unwanted by the West entails opposition in the form of various kinds of sanctions.
  4. Kavosh
    +5
    19 September 2013 08: 43
    It is necessary to take property and deprive of citizenship. And exported abroad.
    This will work one hundred%.
    If the family has more than one fanatic, you need to deprive the whole family of citizenship and property.
    Humans breed through women, and terrorists through fools.
    1. +6
      19 September 2013 08: 55
      It doesn’t work ... look at the experience of the Kungaevs (Budanov’s case) ... there they will appoint a pension and provide a house.
  5. brewhouse
    +19
    19 September 2013 08: 44
    Yevkurov becomes tougher: demolishing a house and selecting land for aiding extremists


    Well done, Comrade Colonel! Keep it up! Gangster weeds must be uprooted.
    1. +2
      19 September 2013 11: 07
      Yes! He now needs not a limousine, but a tank to give out! Because if it works, they will hunt him!
    2. avt
      +3
      19 September 2013 11: 27
      Quote: Brewhouse
      Well done, Comrade Colonel! Keep it up!

      He’s actually a general, a paratrooper from the GRU.
  6. +9
    19 September 2013 08: 51
    Eradicating banditry is a must.
    God grant that he himself was alive!
  7. Transbaikal
    +3
    19 September 2013 08: 54
    But the solution, frankly, is non-standard.
    ----------------------------------------------
    The solution is very standard. For example, in Israel, this practice has existed for a very long time.
    1. +8
      19 September 2013 09: 30
      Quote: Transbaikal
      But the solution, frankly, is non-standard.
      ----------------------------------------------
      The solution is very standard. For example, in Israel, this practice has existed for a very long time.

      as practice shows, this is one of not many measures that, if it does not stop a potential terrorist, at least makes the survivors think about the well-being of their relatives, forcing them to report on the bandyugan. In Israel, this has been working for a long time, there was a time when, under the influence of humanoids, they seemed to achieve that they would demolish a house, but only walled up the terrorist's room. as practice has shown, such a solution is not effective. Another measure that was introduced (10 years ago). Deprivation of the terrorist's family (in the event of his death) benefits for the loss of the breadwinner (that’s because there was nonsense, he went to blow up people, and the state paid his family a pension for the loss of the breadwinner) + of course deprivation of citizenship of those accused of ter. activities (although the deprivation procedure itself is extremely complicated and to this day no more than 10 people have been deprived)
      In fact, without proper intelligence work, all these tools are not very effective, since it is more correct to prevent a terrorist attack than to let the house explode later. Such a warning about the possibility of consequences - the beginning of proper work and getting potential agents - fear for your well-being - an excellent mechanism for recruitment
      1. +5
        19 September 2013 09: 39
        Quote: atalef
        as practice shows, this is one of not many measures that, if it does not stop a potential terrorist, at least makes the survivors think about the well-being of their relatives, forcing them to report on the bandyugan.

        I remember how the Russian Foreign Ministry was wildly indignant at the practice of demolishing the houses of terrorists in Israel and the targeted liquidation. Now they are adopting this practice one to one, and for some reason they are not indignant. I won’t know why ...

        In fact, without proper intelligence work, all these tools are not very effective, since it is more correct to prevent a terrorist attack than to let the house explode later.


        You are absolutely right here. Demolition works poorly. In general, this measure is from the area of ​​collective punishment - there is a lot of noise, but the effect is the opposite. For example, at the age of 18, a son left his father's house, joined the terrorists five years later, and committed a terrorist attack after another 5 years. And now the authorities with a bulldozer at the dad's house who are not dreaming about the new adventures of their son. Like if the son knew what they would do with his house, would he change his mind and change his mind about being a martyr? This is bullshit. Israel's experience shows that demolition measures are only a small element in a broad counter-terrorism effort. the greatest effect is the punishment of organizers and recruiters. By the way, FSB officers are frequent visitors to Israel, they "exchange" experience.

        1. ed65b
          +11
          19 September 2013 10: 38
          Quote: professor
          For example, a son left his home at the age of 18, five years later joined the terrorists, and another 5 years later he committed a terrorist attack. And here is the authorities with a bulldozer at the dad’s house which is neither sleep nor spirit about the new adventures of his son.

          Maybe this is so in your country in Israel, but here our dad knows and knows everything. And for five years, an 18-year-old piece of meat does not skip through the forests, they finish it earlier. So Yevkurov is right. sheltered the goat answer.
          1. 0
            19 September 2013 12: 31
            Quote: ed65b
            Maybe this is so in your country in Israel, but here our dad knows and knows everything.

            Yeah. That's why I see how many "Caucasians" cuts across the vastness of Russia and their dads, of course, at every moment know where their sons are ... Don't tell me this, I grew up in the Caucasus and I know what's what.
            1. +4
              19 September 2013 12: 58
              Actually, we are talking about those who hide bandits in their homes. Or do you think that the owners of the house are so naive that they don’t know who came to their house, why he doesn’t leave the house during the day, that he’s rattling in his bags and why should these bags be stored in a secret place in the basement?
            2. eplewke
              +5
              19 September 2013 15: 18
              Where only the Jews did not grow. Born in the Caucasus, papa is Russian, mom is Ukrainian, Jew himself live in Israel ... laughing
              People without kind, country and history ...
              1. -4
                19 September 2013 15: 48
                Quote: eplewke
                Where only the Jews did not grow. Born in the Caucasus, papa is Russian, mom is Ukrainian, Jew himself live in Israel ...
                People without kind, country and history ...

                Clever able to say anything?
                1. -3
                  19 September 2013 17: 41
                  Quote: professor
                  Clever able to say anything?

                  Oleg, do not even hint, not capable request
                  1. eplewke
                    0
                    20 September 2013 08: 26
                    That does not pinch eyes ??
                2. +1
                  19 September 2013 20: 16
                  so this statement is not smart and not stupid, it's just true !!!
                3. eplewke
                  +1
                  20 September 2013 08: 24
                  Able dear professor! Do not worry for me, I have enough mind. with two higher educations. Therefore, the post is the most offensive to you ...
                  1. 0
                    20 September 2013 08: 56
                    Quote: eplewke
                    Able dear professor!

                    So shine with intelligence.

                    Quote: eplewke
                    Do not worry for me, I have enough mind. with two higher educations.

                    Waiting for you to demonstrate this.

                    Quote: eplewke
                    Therefore, the post is the most offensive to you ...

                    Why did you get the idea that he is offensive, and even as much as possible? Do not flatter yourself in vain. So, chatter, no more.
                4. 0
                  22 September 2013 19: 34
                  What's so stupid? Or is that not true? Assimilate !!!
      2. In the reeds
        0
        22 September 2013 10: 39
        And start with the Israeli Court of Justice, which is ahead of the rest. How an honest Jew!
  8. +8
    19 September 2013 08: 56
    Good for you, but I wouldn't back down!
    But the liberals will begin to interfere with their whining for the rights of bandits. And maybe they, as accomplices, start private houses to demolish? Obviously, Alekseeva and the Gozmans with the Nemtsovs have summer cottages.

    And when something like that starts for corrupt officials?

    Special thanks to Volodin for clever articles!
  9. Airman
    +3
    19 September 2013 08: 59
    To demolish a house is a simple matter. The whole family of accomplices, including young children, is 10-15 years old at Kolyma, and the people who need housing are put in the house, then the neighbors will not be silent.
  10. +3
    19 September 2013 09: 02
    The bandits and their accomplices:
    House to demolish
    take the land
    to deprive of citizenship,
    deport at their expense with things that can be carried away.
    1. +5
      19 September 2013 09: 40
      Quote: Alex66
      deport at their expense with things that can be carried away.

      Where will you deport Russian citizens natively living on its territory?
      1. Alexander 1958
        +3
        19 September 2013 10: 32
        Good afternoon! No need to deport anywhere! But the construction of capitalism in the regions of the far north? Relocate there, give them lifting and let them master the vastness of their native and immense!
        1. +1
          19 September 2013 12: 25
          Quote: Alexander 1958
          But the construction of capitalism in the regions of the far north? Relocate there, give them lifting and let them master the vastness of their native and immense!

          We have already gone through this. The families of "enemies of the people" were building socialism. Nothing good came of it.
          Why are younger brothers and sisters to blame for their older brother urooooood? They are also on Kalymu?
          1. Alexander 1958
            +6
            19 September 2013 13: 33
            Why didn’t this happen? Very good cities turned out in Siberia and the Far East.
            .... Why are younger brothers and sisters to blame for their older brother urooooood? ...
            And what is the fault of the sleeping people whom they blew up in a train, subway or at home? Your fellow countryman ATALEF correctly says that for Kakaz people the family is everything. If he is not supported by his family or dissociates himself from him, having informed the authorities that their relative is a terrorist and they are not responsible for him, this relationship will be broken. Very many, though not all, will refuse to change their family for jihad. And that's good!
            1. +1
              19 September 2013 14: 18
              Quote: Alexander 1958
              And what is the fault of the sleeping people whom they blew up in a train, subway or at home?

              They are not to blame for anything. And you accepting methods of terrorists (to punish children) become like terrorists. This is not the fight against terrorism. It is necessary to educate the children there. There are no other options.
              1. +2
                19 September 2013 16: 16
                It is necessary to educate the children there. There are no other options.

                Do you offer to take away children from fathers and mothers and raise them? This thought did not occur to me.
              2. Alexander 1958
                0
                19 September 2013 16: 30
                Quote: professor
                It is necessary to educate the children there. There are no other options.

                Well, what will it look like? Will you select children from the family, like the janissaries, or will you send propagandists for families and tell them how to live and raise children? Many Israel brought up children in Palestine? As you look at the pictures of 5-year-old kids with martyrs' belts, your offer is immediately remembered.
                1. +2
                  19 September 2013 17: 38
                  Quote: Alex66
                  Do you offer to take away children from fathers and mothers and raise them? This thought did not occur to me.

                  Quote: Alexander 1958
                  Well, what will it look like? Will you select children from the family, like the janissaries, or will you send propagandists for families and tell them how to live and raise children?

                  To take classes at school from morning till night, mugs, sections, summer camps, etc., and all at the expense of the state, not Arab sponsors.

                  Quote: Alexander 1958
                  Many Israel brought up children in Palestine?

                  Is Palestine the territory of Israel? They have their own education.
                  1. Alexander 1958
                    +2
                    19 September 2013 17: 47
                    Quote: professor
                    To take classes at school from morning to evening, circles, sections, summer camps, etc., and all at the expense of the state, not Arab sponsors

                    And how to ensure turnout 7 Deliver by force? I no longer expected such an offer from one of the bastion states of personal freedom! You, my friend, are trying to solve the problem by Bolshevik methods! Half an hour ago, you were against deportations, and here you are offering to ensure the appearance and keep the children all day. You already somehow decide that you better remove the cross (or pile) or put on your underpants ... feel
                    1. -1
                      19 September 2013 20: 07
                      Quote: Alexander 1958
                      And how to ensure turnout

                      4 meals a day, the best equipment, the best teachers, scholarships for applicants to universities outside the Caucasus and Russia ... Children and their parents will stand in line.

                      You already somehow decide that you better remove the cross (or pile) or put on your underpants ...

                      Are you for a red word?
                      1. Alexander 1958
                        +1
                        19 September 2013 20: 48
                        Wow, then everyone will want to declare themselves terrorists! And where to get the money for this holiday? And who should be taken away to give these alleged terrorists? For those who live quietly and work? Good plan! Only it is unlikely that they will support him outside the North Caucasus.
                      2. 0
                        25 September 2013 18: 51
                        And the rest of the Russians where to turn in line ...?
          2. +1
            20 September 2013 14: 48
            But where do you come from, like a virus under the star of David, you won’t shut your mouth, everywhere you’re bustling with your snobber, you’ve got it with your humanism. then be tolerant, but for now it’s not inappropriately Evkurov to rob ...
      2. ed65b
        +1
        19 September 2013 10: 39
        Quote: professor
        Quote: Alex66
        deport at their expense with things that can be carried away.

        Where will you deport Russian citizens natively living on its territory?

        To the Kolyma.
        1. +3
          19 September 2013 12: 27
          We don’t need to go to Siberia, a ray to Qatar or to the Saudis ...
          1. eplewke
            +1
            19 September 2013 15: 23
            What would they come back a couple of years trained terrorists?
      3. +1
        19 September 2013 14: 37
        Well, if they don’t want to be accepted by those for whom they worked (why should they live in a country that doesn’t suit them, whose citizens they kill and often these citizens have nothing to do with their problems), there’s a more traditional option - to settle in vast expanses of our homeland.
      4. In the reeds
        0
        22 September 2013 10: 55
        And ask Stalin, he dealt quickly. And the lands were found. We would have found someone better than may Allah forgive me and his governor on Earth a moderator
  11. soldier's grandson
    +2
    19 September 2013 09: 10
    here it’s such a thing that you don’t know what to do, there are accomplices of personal conviction, but there are those who put in a hopeless situation and it turns out that he and his family will suffer anyway and therefore some flee to Russia from their homes
  12. +8
    19 September 2013 09: 15
    Yevkurov himself, after the blast, was collected in pieces. Well done man, did not break.
    1. largus886
      0
      19 September 2013 10: 09
      Well done, he is well done, but the bandit Kadyrov is in order in the republic, and the military general has almost relatives running through the forests. About Dagestan, I generally keep quiet, it's a complete mess, it's time to carry out CTO throughout the republic! Where to find such "Kadyrovs" throughout the Caucasus and I deeply do not care what methods order will be achieved! Divide and rule this imperial principle has not yet been canceled. All operations against the bandits must be done by the hands of local security forces with the support of heavy weapons and aviation of our army if the need arises.
      1. Alexander 1958
        +3
        19 September 2013 11: 56
        Good afternoon! Yes, it is quite quiet in Chechnya, compared to Dagestan and Ingushetia, but this is a deceptive silence ... Today it is beneficial for them to be quiet because it pays well, but how will it be tomorrow .. And is this "tomorrow" not being prepared today, moreover, with the money of the federal center allocated for the development of Chechnya?
      2. +3
        19 September 2013 17: 44
        Quote: largus886
        Where to find such "Kadyrovs" throughout the Caucasus and I deeply do not care what methods order will be achieved!

        Here the country does not have enough money for one "Kadyrov", and you offer to support two more.
    2. eplewke
      +1
      19 September 2013 15: 25
      The man is strong! And his actions are decisive! He engaged in the underground! Approve! Everyone who helps the bearded - the term and the demolition of the house! They themselves will be discouraging their sons from baradatism! Only here still to distinguish good accomplices from selfish and evil. Maybe a person was forced to aiding. They threatened to kill relatives, etc. This must be worked out ...
  13. dmb
    +9
    19 September 2013 09: 31
    Dear A. Volodin, lately you have been completely overwhelmed by something. Well, I'll start with the most "innocent" passage, about the "order" brought about in Chechnya. Can you guess which areas in Chechnya were the most peaceful after the end of the main battles? Correctly mountain, where the bandits lay down, were treated and ate. And they carried out attacks in flat areas, where they were not so actively supported. Several birds with one stone were killed at once. When conducting special operations in mountainous areas, democrats and Kadyrov - the Pope howled in unison about "bloody" warriors, and in plane ones it led to an increase in the number of bandits due to "injustice". The aliens did, but we answer. Kadyrov-son brought about the same "order". Passage two, about not figs with bandits to comply with the laws. Or maybe it is worth adopting such a law so that not Yevkurov, but the author of such an idea, bears responsibility. And then this is somehow completely "Gorbachevski". He did not know about the troops in Tbilisi, and did not send Alpha to Vilnius, and in general he was a great democrat. Not obey the laws. Well, today it is possible with terrorists, tomorrow with journalists. the day after tomorrow with dissatisfied housing and communal services and further down the list.
    1. +7
      19 September 2013 11: 57
      I would like to hear from you just one answer: Do you seriously think that in our country the laws are observed and everyone is equal before these laws? If yes, then I think you want to fool yourself. If the laws worked as expected, then Yevkurov would not even think about "demolition and selection". Conclusion: it turns out that in our country it is still easier to demolish a house and take away the land than to put things in order in compliance with the laws. As they say, the fork is for the same Evkurov.
      1. dmb
        +1
        19 September 2013 12: 39
        Naturally, I don't think so. But in the event of demolition and selection without the law, the Guarantor is obliged (and will do) send both Yevkurov and the performers to court and to the bunk. If he approves of Yevkurov's actions, then again he is obliged to initiate the adoption of a law, according to which Yevkurov will not bear responsibility for his actions. And so it turns out: "You do it, I don't know anything, but if I have problems because of this, then you can go to the zindan instead of terrorists." And what about the journalists? I really don't like the words and actions of Mitkova and Sorokina, who supported the bandits. Maybe we'll start to evict them?
        1. +2
          19 September 2013 13: 09
          Quote: dmb
          Maybe we will start evicting them.

          Well, we will definitely not start with you - we do not have the authority ...

          In general, we all seem to forget that Russia is like a federation, and therefore Yevkurov (well, in the sense of the Ingush parliament), in principle, nothing prevents to prepare and adopt an internal (republican) law on eviction and demolition.
          1. dmb
            0
            19 September 2013 13: 56
            In this regard, the current legislation clearly regulates everything. The subject of the Federation is not entitled to adopt such laws, so such a law can only be federal and constitutional. So the Guarantor and his immensely loving Duma majority, coupled with the Federation Council. By the way, if you have a federal law that vests such powers, we can do so.
  14. +4
    19 September 2013 09: 35
    And how, strictly speaking, does an accomplice of terrorists differ from terrorists? Brought 10 kg. plastid, put it where indicated and left. Another man tore, people died. One terrorist is another accomplice. Who drew this line? In Muslim countries, they say, there is such a law: rapists of young children are not tried, they are given to the parents of these children, without any consequences for the parents. And somehow there are no pedophiles. All were cut out. Maybe we can do this too: hand the terrorists and their accomplices into the hands of the relatives of the people they killed. I wonder what will happen to these "warriors of Allah"?
  15. field_07
    +1
    19 September 2013 09: 38
    This has long been practiced by Kadyrov, but the question is whether they don’t give a damn about those who are going to demolish the house, that is, their residents, that is, their parents. After all, they are not always aware of what their child is involved in.
    1. +4
      19 September 2013 09: 43
      It was necessary to bring up your "child" correctly. And not in the spirit: you are a horseman, you are always right. Moral values ​​should be the same for everyone. Rather, there should be moral values.
    2. +12
      19 September 2013 09: 49
      Quote: alan_07
      This has long been practiced by Kadyrov, but the question is whether they don’t give a damn about those who are going to demolish the house, that is, their residents, that is, their parents. After all, they are not always aware of what their child is involved in.

      believe me, everyone knows what their children are doing. You do not know Muslim families, separation from the family for a Chechen, Dagestan. as for the Arab, this is the loss of everything and the connection between members of the clan (we cannot talk about them as a family - these are clans united by rondo tribal relations) I am talking about peoples living at a lower social level. development such as the peoples of the Caucasus (excluding Azerbaijan, which is at a higher stage of social development or Russian Tatarstan) If we recall the Chechen war, then how the military determined the number of militants killed - after the battle on freshly dug graves. a Muslim must be buried before sunset and, oddly enough, these graves often arose in quite kind of peaceful villages, in quiet teips (as they positioned themselves), sometimes even tens of kilometers from the battlefields. That is, it was necessary during the day to receive news of death, bring the corpse and bury it in the family cemetery, and you say not in the know
      1. ed65b
        +2
        19 September 2013 10: 50
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: alan_07
        This has long been practiced by Kadyrov, but the question is whether they don’t give a damn about those who are going to demolish the house, that is, their residents, that is, their parents. After all, they are not always aware of what their child is involved in.

        believe me, everyone knows what their children are doing. You do not know Muslim families, separation from the family for a Chechen, Dagestan. as for the Arab, this is the loss of everything and the connection between members of the clan (we cannot talk about them as a family - these are clans united by rondo tribal relations) I am talking about peoples living at a lower social level. development such as the peoples of the Caucasus (excluding Azerbaijan, which is at a higher stage of social development or Russian Tatarstan) If we recall the Chechen war, then how the military determined the number of militants killed - after the battle on freshly dug graves. a Muslim must be buried before sunset and, oddly enough, these graves often arose in quite kind of peaceful villages, in quiet teips (as they positioned themselves), sometimes even tens of kilometers from the battlefields. That is, it was necessary during the day to receive news of death, bring the corpse and bury it in the family cemetery, and you say not in the know

        One hundred percent agree with you Alexander. hi
  16. waisson
    +1
    19 September 2013 09: 50
    Yes, Kadyrov will criticize this version of wat and Yevkurov went the same way, I wonder where the accomplices will certainly run to Russia
  17. soldier's grandson
    +3
    19 September 2013 09: 57
    and if an accomplice lives in a 5-story building, then what will be demolished there, the whole house or doors with a wall and a balcony?
    1. +2
      19 September 2013 12: 16
      take away property (akin to taking land)
  18. +1
    19 September 2013 10: 02
    This is a normal international practice, used in particular in Israel ...
  19. +3
    19 September 2013 10: 13
    Yevkurov is a combat officer, and he shows that he is ready to begin to control the republic with truly military methods, since the situation in the region literally obliges him to do so.

    You will not envy Yevkurov now, he now, more than ever, needs the support of the center, otherwise the peasant will "crash". Now there would be, on the good, at one time remove and replace all the heads of administrations, people devoted to him.


    Naturally, our hyperliberal "colleagues" immediately burst out with materials dedicated to the fact that Yevkurov literally spits on the Criminal Code with his statements.

    But these hyper-liberal "colleagues" would be sent to the mountains, to run after the militants. And behind, that would be a barrier. detachment and "not a step back."
  20. +1
    19 September 2013 10: 17
    Hard wrote on this subject not badly, as a person who faced both accomplices and militants. Although I am not against demolitions, I also have to do it wisely.
  21. de bouillon
    +8
    19 September 2013 10: 33
    uh keep the horses ..

    Here is the opinion from the commandos of the explosives directly of the person who is faced with all this

    And I agree with him, here read:


    ____________________________________________________________
    Probably aware of new initiatives? I must say right away that I am against it. At least because it is very difficult to find out whether the owner of the house knew that he was a bandit (of course, most often they either know or understand - it can be seen from their behavior), and if he knew, did he voluntarily help them? After all, one cannot demand heroism from the average man. When a person realizes that his family will be threatened, it is very difficult for him to act as heroes. He might have stayed away from all this with all his soul. But when a barrel is put to your head, and your wife and children are looking at all this, who after your death there will be no one to protect and they will be left alone with those who kill you - it is difficult to refuse the "tempting offer".

    At the same time, we must not forget that there are also accomplices who immediately report to the law enforcement authorities about the fact of coercion to aiding. And no one, of course, advertises this. They continue to help with the approval of the operas, which allows them to identify the whole chain and take the bandits directly for the genitals. And the opera, of course, for the safety of man and his family, will not tell anyone that he helped authorized. And how can they look into the eyes of a person who helped develop a group of bandits, and they demolished the house for this?

    All residents of the republic already know that they can be left without a home if we suddenly storm. To avoid unnecessary sacrifices - without remorse, we can roll out the house with armored personnel carriers to zero. All are well aware of this. Once they took one bandit, he said that he hid in one house for three days and hid it in the basement of the IED. We arrived, bombers withdrew a bomb. When the owner of the house was brought to confrontation - he rushed to strangle the bandit. And when he was handcuffed, he nevertheless managed to ride his face out of his face. The bandits do not care much for the families of accomplices. They cherish their skin in the first place. Scary to drag an IED with you? I stop in the house of the one who sheltered me. And if the explosion engineers did not dare to pull out? Three children would be left without a roof over their heads.

    In short, it's not that simple. We confront creatures who have no honor, no conscience, or moral principles. They are like the orcs in The Lord of the Rings, like the zombies in The Walking Dead. They are driven by one need - to be satisfied with human blood and flesh. There is no point in taking revenge on them for the same reason that no one takes revenge on worms and lice. There are, of course, accomplices who earn money in this way, believing that there is no blood on their hands, because they just gave something, hid, passed something on to someone. But, firstly, there are few of them, and secondly, there is no point in demolishing their houses either. There is already an article of the criminal code for accomplices and it is enough. You just need to give a person to comprehend the ways of earning. In a quiet, intimate atmosphere, when no one bothers him to reflect on ethics and morality. 5-6 years is enough for thinking.

    Therefore, there is a suspicion that this is more an emotional statement than a guide to action. Children cannot be held responsible for the fact that their dad is an unwise person. And how many helpers who help voluntarily? You can count on the fingers. Is it worth it to raise such a buch because of them?

    hardingush.livejournal.com


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    1. eplewke
      +2
      19 September 2013 15: 34
      Damn, great words! I am joining!
  22. ROA
    ROA
    +2
    19 September 2013 10: 39
    The only leader in the North Caucasus to be respected.
  23. +2
    19 September 2013 10: 45
    I do not believe that he has strayed from his family and become a terrorist (suicide bomber), etc. has no contacts with relatives, the Caucasian mentality is not the same as in the Gaza Strip, everyone knows about everyone. Ermolov led the right policy, a hard whip and some gingerbread.
  24. pa_nik
    +1
    19 September 2013 10: 46
    It is unfortunate that Yevkurov was forced to resort to the above measures. Apparently, he says that he cannot use the laws of the Russian Federation (sabotage within the system?), They (the laws) do not work there (all around - if not relatives, then close friends) .. as, in fact, throughout the country recourse
  25. pa_nik
    +1
    19 September 2013 10: 48
    Quote: de Bouillon
    opinion from the commandos of the explosives directly of the person who is faced with all this


    just about .. it's good to be happy for the "new tool" for putting things in order, when it does not concern YOU personally or your loved ones. There is no need to oversimplify the situation. hi
  26. +1
    19 September 2013 10: 51
    I don't think that Evkurov will actually demolish houses. Most likely, this is an emotional "outburst" (picked up by journalists with an "unknown" purpose), when the courts release accomplices under the guise of legality, using legal casuistry. In any case, he is not an enemy to his people and is doing a great job to stabilize the situation. It is not just that they kill muftis and officials of the Internal Affairs Directorate of Ingushetia, who return militants from the "green".

    I see something else here. This is the impossibility of putting things in order with the help of "legal" verbiage, lawyer games in legality in matters of safety of life of ordinary citizens, when everything is decided by the availability of money, and the restoration of the concept liability social group (family) for the acts of a member of this group. And it's ok.

    And further. The official reaction of Russian politicians is interesting. After all, this is the creation of a precedent in modern conditions, when the actions of an official who caused material damage to the state cause actions to compensate for the damage with the participation of the immediate environment. The parallel action-official (thief) is very transparent.
  27. ed65b
    +1
    19 September 2013 10: 52
    Everything right is done by Yevkurov. It’s just easier for Kadyrov, his faithful nukers family jumped under the knife. everything, no man no problem. therefore he has silence. the bandit and his methods are gangster, but effective.
  28. +1
    19 September 2013 11: 06
    It is necessary to accustom yourself to work, both in the years 30-50, and Siberia and the Far East will turn into developed and prosperous regions. It is necessary to adopt the experience of Stalin and then at least something will move off the ground. And there will be peace and harmony. And so only the money allocated to these republics is thrown to individual bureaucrats and bandits in your pocket.
    1. +1
      19 September 2013 13: 55
      These "bandits without nationality" will do the same thing in Siberia as they do at home — to engage in banditry.
      "Entry to the gas-producing capital of Russia - Novy Urengoy - has been seriously restricted since autumn 2012 for both foreigners and all Russians. To get to this city, you need to present a special pass or an invitation from relatives. illegal migration and countering extremist organizations spreading everywhere "
  29. +3
    19 September 2013 11: 12
    hardingush commando, who is just working in this region, spoke on this subject, I agree with him. often accomplices do this not of their own free will, but under the threat of reprisal against their family. and from the hardingush article I liked his statement.
    "All the inhabitants of the republic already know that they can be left without a home if suddenly we storm"

    http://hardingush.livejournal.com/108051.html
  30. 0
    19 September 2013 11: 22
    Quote: de Bouillon
    uh keep the horses ..

    Thoughts similar to those expressed in your post came, really a double-edged sword. But all the same, Yunus-Bek Evkurov is a local person and will not use this norm from right to left. Well, at least in the form of a "Domokles sword" it makes sense.
  31. 0
    19 September 2013 11: 32
    So far, these are just the words of the head of the Republic of Ingushetia, Yunus-Bek Yevkurov. To eliminate the terrorist underground in Ingushetia, thoughtful effective actions are necessary, taking into account the national characteristics of the peoples of Ingushetia.
  32. dc120mm
    +5
    19 September 2013 11: 39
    I don’t know my opinion is interesting to you BUT I really respect Yevkurov !!!
    1. +2
      19 September 2013 11: 55
      Quote: dc120mm
      I don’t know my opinion is interesting to you

      Yeah interesting.
      Quote: dc120mm
      BUT I really respect Yevkurov !!!

      And this says a lot, in a good way, we respect him too.
    2. +1
      19 September 2013 12: 36
      Greetings to you dc120mm! Something is not often you and your friends visit the site .... Now it is rarely possible to communicate with adequate (no offense) Georgians ...
  33. +3
    19 September 2013 11: 40
    Yevkurov is well aware of the specifics and subtleties of the region that he leads. Demolition and confiscation of land is not a panacea. This (here I agree with the respected professor) is just part of an extensive list of events ...
    And by the way, I would also introduce such a practice as deprivation of parental rights for terrorists and their accomplices. Children in orphanages somewhere in central Russia or Siberia ...
    As for Yevkurov himself, this is a rare example of a truly loyal leader among the heads of regions of the North Caucasus ...

    And a little more about the "expert" in anti-terrorist struggle, Comrade General-Major of Police Kadyrov Jr.
    This zealous fighter and "lover of truth" recently unveiled a monument to the Chechens who fought in the Caucasian War. Who fought about, by the way, against the Russian troops ...
    Sooner or later, having the arrogance (and they won’t occupy it!), They will erect a monument to those who fought against the federal forces in the Chechen wars. And the central government will remain silent ...
  34. +3
    19 September 2013 11: 48
    The East is a THIN business, and the CAUCASUS is DARK ...
  35. SIT
    +5
    19 September 2013 12: 30
    The methods of Ermolov and Stalin are of course time-tested, although they are not included in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. But the courtyard is still the 21st century, not the 19th. Now it is possible to organize the receipt of information by technical means no less than undercover. Instead of swapping billions to the local princes of the North Caucasus, you need to develop a project and implement a system of total collection of information about all the actions of terrorists in this region. For this, it is necessary, first of all, to clearly articulate the legislative and legal foundations of the regional counter-terrorism. Terror is a modern method of conducting full-fledged military operations and only dumb women from human rights defenders or paid terrorist accomplices can approach it from the peacetime criminal code. In regions of direct antiterrorist actions, the legal regime should not be based on the Declaration of Human Rights, but on the Manual on counter-guerrilla actions. In all the houses of terrorist suspects, establish technical means of collecting audio and video information. On mountain trails, install motion sensors with the transfer of information to a single collection center where the entire territory in the form of 3-dimensional digital space images is on the screens of computers on duty shift. In case of receiving a suspicious signal, immediately suspend a drone over this place with an IR scanner for night time and a regular video for the day. No detentions and prosecutors. Everyone should deal exclusively with military counterintelligence in contact with the FSB. All the local Ministry of Internal Affairs only on supporting roles and receives a narrow Old only at the time of direct use. All armed groups, bombers, leaders and direct instructors of suicide bombing are destroyed on the spot. If necessary, their express interrogation is preliminarily conducted again, using counterintelligence methods without any regard to the criminal code. This system of information collection and decision making should be distributed so that only a small circle of decision-makers can see all the information in general. No intermediate links should have access to information. Terrorists will simply disappear, take off into the air, get a sniper bullet completely unpredictable and incomprehensible to them. It’s not clear where to take the grandmas to bribe. Only if directly to Moscow, but there are no system terminals there. Nevertheless, orders from above to local executives should pass only through the system and be fixed in it. Otherwise, when executing an oral order that has not passed through the system, direct executors, when executing an illegal verbal order on the spot, will be warned by the system that the algorithms laid down in the instruction have not been fulfilled and the Supreme Commander can always receive information about this. Technically, this is quite feasible at the present level and is quite comparable in terms of money to what is now swelling into the Caucasus. Counteraction to such a system will require the use of advanced technologies that can only be implemented by specialists with high training, which our mountaineers simply can not master, because This is a few years of study at a special technical university.
    1. +1
      19 September 2013 12: 56
      The methods of Ermolov and Stalin are of course time-tested, although they are not included in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. But the yard is still the 21st century, not the 19th .....
      .... Counteraction to such a system will require the use of advanced technologies that can only be implemented by specialists with high training, which our mountaineers simply can not master, because it's a few years of study at a special technical university

      You wrote everything correctly, I read your message with pleasure and I will subscribe to your every word. But the fact is that in the current situation in the Caucasus, we do not have time, these "several years" for training specialists. Therefore, now the "stretch" installed on the trail of the militants is much more effective than motion sensors. And the methods of Ermolov and Stalin will not be superfluous. As the saying goes: "To live with wolves, howl like a wolf."
      1. SIT
        +1
        19 September 2013 13: 37
        Quote: Garrin
        we do not have time, these "several years" for training specialists

        We have just such specialists, only now they work in different commercial offices, tk. they pay more there. Collect them in a single center, give them a competent technical specification for the development of the system, drawn up by professionals based on the analysis of the needs of end users, conduct a comprehensive discussion by specialists with the tolerance of the resulting system design, so that later they do not bother, correcting along the way, develop software and choose for it " hardware ", at the final stage to ensure the implementation of tough leadership from the top with the acceptance by specialists of the developers of exams for system ownership from operators and support services. It will be such a know how that after the first combat use of the system, it will be difficult to find mercenaries for jihad in Russia.
        1. +1
          19 September 2013 17: 05
          Quote: SIT
          We have just such specialists

          Incidentally, I wrote without any irony that I read your message with pleasure and I’m not going to dispute it, because I see that you own the question better than me. However, in connection with this, further questions arise. Really in the leading structures, there are no such people, advisers, who could convince our guarantor and the prime minister of the need to recreate these units and actively use them. Maybe it's time for Allah to share funds between Chechnya and the counter. terrorist units? Or is the fight against terrorism in the Caucasus simply declarative statements of the guarantor? The more you think, the more questions.
    2. 0
      21 September 2013 17: 11
      Definitely - FOR! In my opinion, this is a very true approach to the problem of Caucasian terrorism. Not arguments about the responsibility of accomplices and relatives, but an offer to the other side to play according to the strict, or rather cruel, rules of war: you are at war with us - get an adequate answer and be prepared for the fact that you will encounter a soulless SYSTEM that simply crushes you, not especially- then noticing how. Only such an answer can be to these nonhumans!
  36. +1
    19 September 2013 12: 33
    Kind! Normal move! And no one needs Lala about human rights and their infringement! The exclusive right of a person is to live as a decent citizen, a good family man and an honorary member of a cultural society, and to punish those sub-people who help to kill our children, women! I support the article! Roll a bulldozer at home and live as you want, if you do not want as a person! Then local people themselves will restore order.
  37. 0
    19 September 2013 12: 41
    Everything should be dressed in the form of law, lawlessness will only aggravate the situation and give rise to new problems.
    In no case should children and innocent family members suffer.
  38. +1
    19 September 2013 12: 44
    Quote: Nick
    Quote: Crocodile
    Of course, it’s better not to demolish, but to level with the inhabitants!

    Of course, aligning with the inhabitants is not legal, but isolating them from society for long periods and with confiscation of property is necessary. If there is no such article in the Law, then it must be adopted. The response to the crime must be adequate and have an educational effect.

    There is an article of aiding, and this is already complicity in the commission of a crime!
  39. +1
    19 September 2013 12: 44
    The direction itself is right.
    The question is different. Unfortunately, we often have initiatives come from people who put forward these initiatives as an answer to any events or in order to increase their popularity, without taking into account specific conditions, experience and analysis. Therefore, the outcome of many undertakings is usually sad - the goals are not achieved, moreover, sometimes the results are negative. As they say, the medicine turned out to be worse than the disease.
    I think it’s high time to pass the institute (not in the sense of an educational institution, but as a kind of body) that would analyze the current situation and, based on the available information, taking into account psychological motives, local traditions, perceived religious rules, offer effective tools to destroy the foundations of such phenomena of both terrorism and mitigation of national contradictions.
    Unfortunately, this is not now.
    Maybe Yevkurov as a person of action will start all the same with this? I would like to think so.
    In my opinion, he has some inclinations, but he needs to be helped.
  40. +1
    19 September 2013 12: 59
    In the Middle East, in the recent past, the British buried assassins in pig skins, as a warning to others ... acted.
  41. +6
    19 September 2013 13: 11
    As soon as the first house is demolished, human rights defenders of all stripes will run from all the cracks like cockroaches. All newspapers and all television will be in their snot and drool. And then the West will also connect. After all, nowhere without them, and here the "Stalinist" repression.
  42. -1
    19 September 2013 13: 12
    It’s better to shoot all the relatives ... right up to the little ones.
    1. vkrav
      +1
      19 September 2013 14: 07
      Just do not shoot, but hang ... The gunman will go to the Muslim paradise, but the hanged man will not.
  43. +2
    19 September 2013 13: 31
    And this is an approach .... for a long time it was necessary to do so ...... common sense
  44. +3
    19 September 2013 13: 45
    This approach is correct if it is prescribed in the law !!! And by and large, he spits on the law and does what he wants, and if tomorrow he wants to do something else ??
    Let them write in the law what kind of aiding terrorists the demolition of the house, the seizure of land, the expulsion to Magadan or something else, BUT only within the law !!
  45. Ddhal
    +3
    19 September 2013 13: 45
    Well done, for a long time it was necessary to take an example from Ermolov.
  46. +3
    19 September 2013 14: 07
    Yes, Evkurov with his innovation, of course, steps over certain legislative norms.

    Where is the Duma? What- The Law on Education to enter the country on December 31 under the Christmas tree, there is enough courage and conscience in place. And here, if something happened, Yevkurov is substituted.
  47. +3
    19 September 2013 14: 16
    Correctly, Evkurov decided, most importantly, that his words be realized! And about the absence of such a norm in the legislation of the Russian Federation, it’s not long to adopt it, since our legislators, when necessary, are able to work very quickly!
  48. +2
    19 September 2013 14: 16
    Yevkurov, unlike Kadyrov, arouses only respect. In Ingushetia, both Chechen companies were the rear base of the militants and here the questions are not to Yevkurov, who is now raking it all, but to our leaders.
  49. Romario_Omsk
    +1
    19 September 2013 15: 23
    all these radicals, whatever faith and nation they are, must be sentenced to the highest measure, and by hanging !!! and not after 2 years of investigation, but 2 weeks ..... "especially distinguished" - to cut like lambs))))) so that they do not get to their paradise)))))))
  50. +1
    19 September 2013 15: 41
    I think the measure is right now the relatives will think before letting the militant out of the woods and where they will live. Yevkurov gives them a chance to come and surrender if they did not surrender to his bodies and could not persuade them to blame themselves.
  51. Hulk
    -6
    19 September 2013 15: 47
    Quote: vedmeddd
    Correctly, Evkurov decided, most importantly, that his words be realized! And about the absence of such a norm in the legislation of the Russian Federation, it’s not long to adopt it, since our legislators, when necessary, are able to work very quickly!

    We pass laws quickly, no doubt about it, the law on the Russian Academy of Sciences was passed in three readings at once. Well, now we will have a Doctor of Science living in every entrance? And for every house - a Nobel laureate?

    In the Caucasus, due to the lack of any legality, there is a civil war. The author suggests turning a blind eye to the worsening lawlessness. The author doesn’t have enough of Basayev’s security guards in Moscow; apparently the Yevkurovskys also need to be brought. Then he will remember (when it affects him) that in Central Russia there will be a need for legality, it turns out.
    By the way, nothing prevents the president from introducing a state of emergency in the Caucasus. In law. But the president is busy with the problems of the world far away. Syria seems to be more important. There you can earn points on the international stage
    And so my opinion is that Russia and the Caucasus are not on the same path.
    Are you on the same path with a region where the law is nothing and the boss is everything?
    1. +5
      19 September 2013 16: 01
      Quote: Hulk
      And so my opinion is that Russia and the Caucasus are not on the same path

      Today it’s not on the way with the Caucasus, tomorrow with whom?.. Russia is within the borders of the Moscow Ring Road - so what?
      Are you on the same path with a region where the law is nothing and the boss is everything?

      Name at least one region of Russia where the “boss” (as you put it) is nothing, and the law is everything... Maybe yours?..

      And did I understand correctly that you identify Yevkurov with Basayev - well, based on the phrase
      “The author doesn’t have enough of Basayev’s security guards in Moscow; apparently the Yevkurovskys also need to be brought in.”
      ?
  52. amp
    amp
    +1
    19 September 2013 15: 54
    The Caucasus needs a new Ermolov with the right to do whatever he sees fit.
  53. 12061973
    +2
    19 September 2013 16: 13
    understand, Ingushetia is not Israel, if these are not just words, then in Ingushetia there may only be one Evkurov’s house left, since even in the government of the republic there were at least accomplices.
  54. 12061973
    +2
    19 September 2013 16: 17
    first of all, Ermolov needs to be installed as president of Russia, so that he can clean it up a little, and only then to the Caucasus, if he is immediately the head of Chechnya, then he will be put in prison, disgraced and killed like Budanov.
  55. +1
    19 September 2013 16: 33
    It would also be possible to change the family surnames of Kam and his children to new, dissonant and humiliating ones.
  56. +1
    19 September 2013 16: 40
    Well done Evkurov! The federal government is obliged to help its authorized representative in the person of Yevkurov, who was recently re-elected to this highest position in the republic. But it is possible and necessary to counter the militants and their accomplices using economic methods: a terrorist attack occurred, the court determined (through authorized representatives of the authorities) material and moral damage in multiples and seized bank accounts, movable and immovable property, and sold these assets through auctions or other mechanisms. All! In practice, this has long been used by the customs committee and by bailiffs and other departments...
  57. Hulk
    -3
    19 September 2013 18: 07
    Quote: Volodin
    Today it’s not on the way with the Caucasus, tomorrow with whom?.. Russia is within the borders of the Moscow Ring Road - so what?

    Tomorrow I would like to see Russia as a national Russian state made up of Russian regions. Unitary state. Without division into subjects. If anyone from the republics wants to join, you are welcome. But with the holding of a referendum in the national Russian state. The results of the referendum on the Caucasus are not difficult to predict. Or will the will of the majority of the people not be a decree for the author?
    Quote: Volodin
    Name at least one region of Russia where the “boss” (as you put it) is nothing, and the law is everything... Maybe yours?..

    I am for the boss not to be nothing, but to be equal to everyone else. An example is where the bosses got too deep and they were given equal rights with the rest - Tula region - two governors were given equal rights by court decision. According to the law that you belittle so much.

    Quote: Volodin
    And did I understand correctly that you identify Yevkurov with Basayev - well, based on the phrase

    Wrong. It’s hard to even call Basayev a human being. As a smart person, you probably realized that this was a typo. Of course, the guards are not Basayev, but Kadyrov. I apologize.
  58. 0
    19 September 2013 18: 25
    >>
    You need to listen less to home-grown liberals and, in order to please the West, follow the lead in terms of lawmaking from the sexually preoccupied super-liberal Geyropa, for whom nothing is more important than the universal provision of complete freedom for LGBT scum to impose their moral norms and their gamemocratic values ​​on society. It is necessary to pass laws and act based on the interests of exclusively Russian society and the complex crime situation in the country, which, by the way, exists not without the participation of Western disseminators of universal human values, sponsoring various kinds of gangster Islamist rabble under the guise of fighters against dictatorship, and NOT PAY attention to the screams and howls of all this liberal the trash that will begin when Russia begins to seriously CRUSH this scum!
  59. Hulk
    0
    19 September 2013 18: 28
    Quote: Chicot 1
    By the way, I would also introduce such a practice as deprivation of parental rights for terrorists and their accomplices. Children in orphanages somewhere in central Russia or Siberia...

    Since you offer, you will adopt them. Or are you relying on someone else's uncle?
    Or just wag your tongue. Like I’m chatting, and you’re squandering government money according to my whims.
  60. 0
    19 September 2013 19: 57
    In my opinion, as always, it is not the severity of the punishment, but its inevitability. You cannot fight lawlessness with lawlessness; it is a dead end. And there are articles in the Criminal Code and, as a rule, the criminal is released. And this is not only in the Caucasus, but also in Moscow, we have only heard about high-profile cases, but how many have we not heard about? Here are young scumbags who feel their impunity and fight without measure. The Slavic golden youth are exactly the same, only they are less visible.

    What to do? Maybe, like in Georgia, fire everyone and hire new ones? The police are now paid normally, there will be many people willing. Question two: why are they releasing people in Moscow? Just look at the names of the police chiefs and everything will become clear to you. I once heard a phrase in a hospital: “Take one Caucasian into the department, in three years the entire department, except for the service personnel, will be filled with them. Matchmaker, brother, etc.” If a respected authority asks a Caucasian for help, will he refuse? No, it’s even hard to imagine, even to your own detriment, that’s the mentality.

    What to do with it? And in the USSR a solution had already been found: the second person in any more or less significant structure was a Slav, although there were no official indications on this topic. Moreover, as a rule, the first person had a mainly decorative function, and the second one worked. We agreed to replace it with locals in Uzbekistan, which everyone remembers. And now? Are there any Slavs in power in the Caucasus at all? I doubt. Where to find those willing? Send for several years for ranks, pay allowances, maybe even combat allowances.
  61. goldfinger
    +1
    19 September 2013 20: 00
    Neighbor Belarus. It was easier for the Israelis to carry out this operation. The enemy is against the enemy. And who will be put behind the leverage of the bulldozer? Ingush? Believed with difficulty, knowing the mountain customs. Migrant workers from the Smolensk region? It’s also hard to imagine. If only the army, special forces in masked balaclava. Or miners. Again, a surge of hatred for servants. And it’s not a soldier’s business. I'm afraid the next one is blah blah blah.
    And the most important thing. As long as there is a huge, overwhelming number of traitors (I can’t find another word), their Slavic people - bandits, traitor policemen, thieves at all levels, bribes from the hospital to the cemetery, it’s ridiculous to demand law-abidingness from more “criminal” peoples.
  62. -1
    19 September 2013 20: 25
    Quote: author
    Yevkurov:
    The house in which the gangster lived will be demolished and the land withdrawn. At this place we will build an apartment building for the village specialists. In addition, all those who will provide shelter, food and other assistance to gangsters will become defendants in criminal cases of aiding the militants. It should be clear to everyone: if you let a person into a house, you are responsible for him.

    Here is finally a man in this semi-impotent government of the Kremlin liberals!!!!! I respected Evkurov 1000 times more! Personally, I’ve been talking about such measures against terrorism for a long time in my circle of friends, but by and large there was no understanding, yet the flimsy people around me became like girls straight up. And of course, especially the women did not understand me, countering in approximately the same way as is written in this article. Evkurov is a handsome man, with banditry and accomplices of the Zionist West it is necessary only this way, HARD!
    To Alexey Volodin, the author of the article, a huge “+” and a deep bow for such material. I have been following his works for a long time and find them to be rarely appropriate to the times, bold and decisive! good
  63. 0
    19 September 2013 21: 00
    Evkurov is great, the authorities need to support him and extend him, by adopting the Federal Law, to the entire country; the stronger the reaction of society, the Ingush themselves and other Caucasians to terrorism and extremism, the more effective the war will be. It would be good for Yevkurov to put into circulation, in addition to the carrot, to raise and rely on those families who suffered from terrorists, organizing, together with the clergy, the movement of Yevkurovites, setting up militants against Islam, society, traditions, they will demolish houses , take away property from relatives of militants.
    The state really should, based on blood feud, take revenge on the militants, the family and clan in the Caucasus should be responsible for their members, there can be a lot of options (adults should be judged as accomplices to huge sentences, reviving hard labor, children, changing the installation data, put in orphanages or special schools). Many people will think that it is possible from one brat to lose the entire family; they themselves will kill him or hand him over.
    It is necessary, by creating a specialized institute or giving the task to the Institute of Oriental Studies, based on the experience of older generations, Caucasian traditions and customs, to create a comprehensive program to normalize the situation in the Caucasus for at least 20 years.
    1. 0
      19 September 2013 21: 48
      [quote = repytw]
      ... relying on the experience of older generations, Caucasian traditions...

      Regarding the experience of older generations and Caucasian traditions, there is a good article in the Russian Messenger:
      http://www.rv.ru/content.php3?id=616
  64. +1
    19 September 2013 21: 17
    What Evkurov intends to do, unfortunately, is absolutely illegal. Although, from my personal point of view, such events can be beneficial if implemented wisely. First, it is necessary to provide a legislative basis for Evkurov’s idea. State of emergency, special powers, tribunals. Only in these tribunals it should not be local Vainakhs, but professional lawyers sent from Russia. At the same time, it is necessary to prepare methodological recommendations and differentiate responsibility for voluntary and forced complicity, and determine the types of punishments. Perhaps, in addition to the tribunal, I would introduce another structure - something like a deportation commission in order to extrajudicially expel persons related to terrorists from outside... well, let's say, the federal district. Place these deportees in small towns, 10-15 thousand inhabitants, under the supervision of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
    In short, you need to do everything according to your mind, and not as always...
    And since Evkurov is trying to do this (good health and long life to him), the matter is more reminiscent of shaking the air and waving his fists in front of the mirror. Unfortunately.
    1. 0
      19 September 2013 23: 22
      Why the hell are they needed in small towns across RUSSIA. Yes

      the Arctic and the Arctic coast are where we should settle.
  65. +2
    19 September 2013 22: 16
    Demolishing houses, etc. is not even Yevkurov’s powerlessness in the fight against local terrorism. This is the absence of a strong central government.
    As long as the locals rule, there will be no sense. And Evkurov is ONE - in the entire Caucasus. Sorry for him.
    It won't work alone.
    I believe that most of those who are advocating here for the demolition of houses and eviction have not been there themselves, and have not personally shown their prowess to the mountaineers.
    1. Lakkuchu
      0
      20 September 2013 09: 14
      Quote: Des10
      I believe that most of those who are advocating here for the demolition of houses and eviction have not been there themselves, and have not personally shown their prowess to the mountaineers.

      All their daring begins and ends in virtual space.
  66. 0
    19 September 2013 22: 19
    Quote: Bully
    Regarding the experience of older generations and Caucasian traditions, there is a good article in the Russian Messenger:
    http://www.rv.ru/content.php3?id=616



    I read the article, I already know these calculations, so I pointed to:
    "... a family and clan in the Caucasus must be responsible for its members, there can be a lot of options (adults can be judged as accomplices to huge sentences, reviving hard labor, children, changing their settings, sent to orphanages or special schools). Many will think that it is possible from one brat, lose the whole clan, they themselves will kill him or hand him over."
    1. +1
      19 September 2013 23: 00
      By definition, they will never give him away and cut him. This is the essence of teip consciousness, he is a hero for them, they are the same.
  67. clinic1
    +1
    19 September 2013 22: 41
    In the end, the animals themselves realized that to put an end to all this can only be Stalinist methods!
    1. Lakkuchu
      -1
      20 September 2013 09: 10
      Quote: klinok1
      In the end, the animals themselves realized that the only way to put an end to all this was by Stalin’s methods.

      A self-critical look at yourself is good..)))
  68. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    0
    19 September 2013 23: 36
    The stupidity on the site is off the scale, answer the question, the man did not allow the bandits into the house, which means he and all his servants will be slaughtered as opponents of the fight against infidels, and the bandits will still be in the house, in this case, on whose conscience will those innocently killed be?? ???Question for the eccentrics (I wanted to say to the eccentrics)....Well, they will blow up hell anyway during the assault. By the way, I suddenly remembered “for aiding the partisans, every 10th person will be hanged, and the family that sheltered them too...., I can’t remember where did I read this before...
    1. 0
      20 September 2013 00: 15
      Yes, they will let you in. Because the health of my children is more valuable than a house and a plot. I will let you in, but on the condition of permission to leave home with my family to visit relatives. They know my relatives, so I will remain silent. If they don’t let me go, then my family and I are hostages.
      By the way, under the threat of execution of the whole family, during the Second World War, in Belarus and Ukraine, neighbors - Jews - were hidden. This is what you read about.
      These are such stupid people.
    2. +1
      20 September 2013 08: 03
      Quote: NOBODY BUT US
      The stupidity on the site is off the charts

      What's the problem?
      There are “non-moronic” sites where militants are considered rebels and fighters against the regime, and they also see nothing wrong with same-sex marriage and the actions of pedophiles.
      Everyone is free to choose their own preferences.
  69. +2
    19 September 2013 23: 57
    From a legal point of view, everything is correct. If the court decides to confiscate property, then the confiscated property becomes state income.
    In this case, on a site previously occupied by a single-family residential building, a facility more needed by the state is being built.
    Yevkurov is the main representative of the Russian state, elected from the Republic of Ingushetia.
    His right and duty is to make such decisions.
  70. +3
    20 September 2013 00: 49
    Honor and respect to General Yevkurov from all sensible people, well, if they don’t mean it well, then it’s a disaster for your “house”...
  71. +2
    20 September 2013 01: 32
    Good luck to Evkurov in his endeavor. It would be nice to project this innovation onto all subjects of the Russian Federation.
  72. +1
    20 September 2013 07: 59
    But the solution, frankly speaking, is non-standard. It is tough and definitely forces those same “sympathizers” to think ten times before providing the basement of their house for a cache of weapons or treating militants with fresh lamb... Such a decision, given the most difficult security situation in Ingushetia, looks like one of the possible effective moves. Yevkurov is a military officer, and he shows that he is ready to begin governing the republic using truly military methods, since the very situation in the region literally obliges him to do so.

    Yes, exactly like that, in Yermolov’s way, in the language of bandits. When peaceful and legal methods no longer work, amputation must be resorted to.
    I support Yevkurov. Only potential criminals and bandits can be against it.
  73. 0
    20 September 2013 14: 17
    Jews have been practicing similar methods for a long time, but this has not solved the problem of terrorism.
    And there are still 2 questions left
    1. What to do with those who were forced at gunpoint to shelter bandits?
    2. What to do with those who cooperate with the Ministry of Internal Affairs and, while hiding bandits, transmit information to the security forces before choosing whether to demolish the house or everyone will know that you work for the Ministry of Internal Affairs?
  74. 0
    20 September 2013 14: 49
    Right. Jews have been demolishing terrorist houses for a long time.
    1. In the reeds
      0
      22 September 2013 11: 33
      It won’t help they chip in and build a new house faster than D9 warmed up
  75. Gur
    0
    20 September 2013 15: 13
    If there was no positive in the first term, why did they give him a second, apparently there is no alternative, and may God give him the strength to confirm his words with action.
  76. 0
    20 September 2013 16: 21
    Quote: Crocodile
    Looks badly explained ...
    Why bother? Housing and land are also property that can be confiscated in accordance with applicable law!
    The adopted laws and legal measures are quite enough to restore order, just work, and do not throw the next slogans!
    Quote: Geisenberg
    What buddy shaved beard itches ??

    laughing Have fun from the heart! love
    Quote: Geisenberg
    Yevkurov, oh well done.

    And how much did he do while in power?
    This is Evkurov’s second presidential term.
    Ali was missing something to improve his situation?
    When will we start judging by business, and not by words and slogans? Breaking does not build ...

    Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side.
  77. +1
    21 September 2013 02: 40
    Quote: Pilat2009
    You can still bury tovarisch in pigskin

    there is no need to scrape the pigs and lard is not lard without the skin
  78. 0
    22 September 2013 10: 00
    Well done, Evkurov. The issue needs to be resolved radically. Why can they and we can’t? May God grant him determination and firmness. And so that those demolished are not left without a land allotment, allot them a land allotment on the Kolyma River, forcibly, for life. And nothing about the pork skin either, it’s fine.
  79. 0
    22 September 2013 19: 31
    There is no need to interfere with Yevkurov, he didn’t come up with anything new, it’s a common “global practice of liberoids” or what do you want the Vahabzdites to come to Voronezh. Terrorism was not declared a global threat by us. We will fight by all means. We also need to introduce a definition (by law) of a family member of an enemy - Oh, a terrorist. That's right, the Far East still needs to be revived. This fertile people will be an alternative to quiet Chinese expansion. You need to give a person a choice: either the house is to be demolished or you are a resident of remote and sparsely populated areas. And his house will be bought by the state for the price of buying a shack there (according to social norms).
  80. 0
    25 September 2013 10: 44
    Evkurov - keep it up!

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