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“America is a slightly greater power than Qatar”

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“America is a slightly greater power than Qatar”



Our foreign policy is looking good now.

In the Syrian conflict, international diplomacy has almost become the key role. Will the western invasion against official Damascus begin or not? In fact, this issue has become the main stumbling block in relations between Washington and Moscow, and, according to some experts, Russia wins a diplomatic duel against the United States.

In this aspect, the actions of the American and Russian presidents are commented by Mikhail Leontyev to the KM.RU portal.

Obama was forced to get involved in the Syrian history

Our foreign policy now looks brilliant, although it is judged by the final result, and the result is very dubious in perspective. Obama was forced to get involved in the Syrian history, and in an absolutely moronic and losing form for him. He was always an open opponent of just such a policy, but he was forced. This suggests that even if the American president has his own position and will and tries to carry it out gently and gently, he will still be harvested in the most wild way, and then presented as an idiot! Wild actions were done to him, and he could not help being in this situation an idiot: he had no choice. In this sense, our president has a head start.

A person who is in the position of Obama, there are human reasons to despise. It can be understood, but a normal man in his right mind should not allow this to be done with him. It is beyond all but American political ethics. Russia is a problem country. Putin has troubled relations with the Russian elites, with different wings of the power structure. He is not a revolutionary, not a sadist, but a man who is not very inclined to harsh, risky and forceful solutions to problems, primarily in his own environment. But compared to the position of the American president, he is just a king.

The functional ability of the American president is now visible very sharply. Obama tried with all his might to "throw the bones" to representatives of different groups and not to show abrupt changes in the American course. However, the situation in which he can avoid actions that he did not want to take, puts him in a worse image position than he would have done.

Obama seems to be intimidated

Over the past cycle of preparation for the Syrian operation, the American administration has gone through all phases of human humiliation, including open recognition in the implementation of paid services in relation to the flood monarchies. Who else will turn the language to somehow rationalize American goals, objectives and values ​​in this matter? America is a slightly greater power than Qatar. To hire for Qatar to do a stinky job with a gross violation of logic, common sense and international law is ... well, I don’t know ... I still thought that if the Americans did it, they would never admit it.

It’s hard to imagine that Obama’s hawk edge will calmly watch the Syrian weapon transferred under international control. There is no need for a big mind in order to pick up and spray some chemical rubbish in Syria and fabricate a two-kopeck video that allegedly exposes the Syrian army. This is even easier to do in Israel or, for example, in Turkey. And then make a deafening tantrum. It will be stated: “How can we believe the government, which, once caught by the hand, with unprecedented arrogance, does it in another country ?! A vice cannot be punished ”and so on. It is very difficult to imagine how this can be prevented. It seems that Obama is scared to disgrace.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 08: 25 New
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    What other values, what power. Who ever said that America is a great power ??? There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and wars, that’s all America.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 18 September 2013 08: 30 New
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      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and warriors, that’s all America.


      brevity is the soul of wit. good
      Hello Alexander hi
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 08: 40 New
        +6
        Quote: Apollon
        brevity is the soul of wit

        Well, yes, like all of America, some “talents” laughing
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 18 September 2013 08: 51 New
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          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Well, yes, like all of America, some “talents”

          Sasha, Apollo, hi! The problem is that these "talents" have fans, the "washes" of society.
          1. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 18 September 2013 22: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: Tersky
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well, yes, like all of America, some “talents”

            Sasha, Apollo, hi! The problem is that these "talents" have fans, the "washes" of society.


            Stop. This is the oil aristocracy and military-industrial complex barons of "washing" ??? laughing Harsh am
      2. Refund_SSSR
        Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 08: 41 New
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        Quote: Apollon
        What other values, what power. Who ever said that America is a great power ??? There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and warriors, that’s all America.

        Bend over ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 08: 48 New
          +7
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          Bend over ...

          Is it me or Apollon? If to me, then tell me what exactly is the greatness of the USA? Name, though, what can the USA be proud of?
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 18 September 2013 08: 51 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Name, though, what can the USA be proud of?

            As one teacher who visited the United States said: "Women are all ugly, food is rubber, and children are completely." That's what they can be proud of! laughing
            Hello everyone! hi
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 18 September 2013 08: 56 New
              +6
              Quote: Egoza
              As one teacher who visited the United States said: "Women are all ugly, food is rubber, and children are completely." That's what they can be proud of!


              some eloquent comments. good

              Quote: Egoza
              Hello everyone!


              good day, Elena. hi
            2. v53993
              v53993 18 September 2013 09: 28 New
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              Name, though, what can the USA be proud of?


              What normal countries prefer to be ashamed of.
              1. Mercenary
                Mercenary 18 September 2013 10: 07 New
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                The greatest invention of them is the dollar the whole world crushed under it and think about a simple toilet paper, lousy quality
          2. lewerlin53rus
            lewerlin53rus 18 September 2013 08: 55 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            What can the USA be proud of?
            Well, how is it? For example, the performance of the printing press. Although recently, its capacity is clearly not enough. Accounted for
            Engage in Qatar to do a stinky job with a gross violation of logic, common sense and international law

            Good morning, Alexander! hi
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 09: 00 New
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              Quote: lewerlin53rus
              For example, the performance of the printing press. X

              In short, financial scams can be proud of.
              Hi mutual hi
            2. Tersky
              Tersky 18 September 2013 12: 38 New
              +3
              Quote: lewerlin53rus
              Well, how is it? For example, the performance of the printing press.

              It also depends on the printing method, the less costly those are “more productive”. The most affordable and cheap screen printing, that’s how they spar; the wider the matrix, the more notes.
          3. Refund_SSSR
            Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 09: 05 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            If to me, then tell me what exactly is the greatness of the USA?

            Let's not wake up playing hats and screaming Urya!
            The United States is a fairly developed country, and it is objectively more developed than the Russian Federation both militarily and economically.
            US science is also slightly ahead of ours.
            No matter how I regard the United States as a nation and state, but I do not allow myself to underestimate ... in fact the enemy.
            And even more so, one should not be likened to the rulers of the USA who have lost their minds and declare Russian superiority over Americans.
            Or do you insist on the exclusivity of your nation?
            1. Refund_SSSR
              Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 09: 16 New
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              Funny but revealing:
              The Russian Federation, even being a larger supplier of hydrocarbons than the United States, still uses correlations and models developed in the United States in its calculations (take my word for it, I know what I'm saying).
              Even in resource extraction technologies, we are lagging behind the USA!
              And if you touch on such a painful topic as micro electronics? Pharmacology?
              1. 77bor1973
                77bor1973 18 September 2013 09: 44 New
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                The fact is different, in the states even the prident is a kind of "SLAVE", and if earlier some puppeteers were read quite veiledly, now this "tail" that steers the dog without glasses is visible. Obama is working on the master and without desire.
                1. dropout
                  dropout 18 September 2013 10: 14 New
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                  Quote: 77bor1973
                  "tail" that steers a dog without a point is visible.


                  From the very beginning it was clear that the NEGR PRESIDENT was not the result of US democratization, but another special operation of this very “tail.” It’s still not completely clear what THEY conceived, but I suppose that a BIG SHUCHER is just around the corner.
              2. FREGATENKAPITAN
                FREGATENKAPITAN 18 September 2013 10: 32 New
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                Well, probably something like that ....... and you are aware of whose engines American missiles fly? .. Right on the Samara, science in the USA is 80% promoted by immigrants from the USSR, China, India, where are the best programmers? Correctly Russia, Ukraine, China ...... far from being in the states .......... so that not everything is so bad with us in this area ..... It's nonsense. It all the same when it will end ... history has already seen this, Russia how many times has risen from scratch to the leading power ... and then everything will be different .......
                1. Refund_SSSR
                  Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 11: 01 New
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                  Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
                  science in the USA is 80% promoted by immigrants from the USSR, China, India

                  These are residents of the United States ... so you can agree even to the point that it is not yet known who the Russian is!
                  Stalin, for example, was not Russian ... Pushkin’s roots are also known to us and they are Russian only in part.
                  A lot of great figures in Russia and in general in Russian history were far from Russian, but these are ours! Russian figures!
                  What really is there! I myself am half Ukrainian, a quarter Belarusian and 1/8 Baltic, and only the remaining 1/8 Russian. And he was born at all in the Soviet Union! laughing In a country that no longer exists, but this does not stop me from considering myself Russian and contributing to the development of our Russian science!
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 11: 10 New
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                    Quote: We refund_SSSR
                    These are residents of the United States ... so you can agree even to the point that it is not yet known who the Russian is!
                    Stalin, for example, was not Russian ..

                    The difference is that Stalin and Pushkin were born in Russia, and all other US residents are simply emigrants.
                  2. Tambov we ...
                    Tambov we ... 18 September 2013 17: 17 New
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                    Russian is an adjective, and there is no determinant of nationality, or a tribal marker. Russian, this belongs to the great spiritual principle, which has existed for more than one millennium. And Russians have a great many nationalities - from the Slavs to the Chukchi. And the main thing uniting all Russians is our Russian language, the most difficult and the greatest in this world.
                    1. bomg.77
                      bomg.77 18 September 2013 21: 48 New
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                      Quote: Tambov we ...
                      Russian is an adjective, and there is no determinant of nationality, or a tribal marker. Russian, this belongs to the great spiritual principle, which has existed for more than one millennium. And Russians have a great many nationalities - from the Slavs to the Chukchi. And the main thing uniting all Russians is our Russian language, the most difficult and the greatest in this world.
                      Great comment. good hi
                  3. FREGATENKAPITAN
                    FREGATENKAPITAN 18 September 2013 17: 34 New
                    -2
                    Sasha Romanov below answered for me, exactly what I meant .....
                2. Semurg
                  Semurg 18 September 2013 13: 42 New
                  +4
                  Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
                  Well, probably something like that ....... and you are aware of whose engines American missiles fly? .. Right on the Samara, science in the USA is 80% promoted by immigrants from the USSR, China, India, where are the best programmers? Correctly Russia, Ukraine, China ...... far from being in the states .......... so that not everything is so bad with us in this area ..... It's nonsense. It all the same when it will end ... history has already seen this, Russia how many times has risen from scratch to the leading power ... and then everything will be different .......

                  and why did all these immigrants from the USSR, China, India, etc., drag themselves into this shitty country, and did not stay happy and contented at home? Any nonsense (illness) once ends, the main thing is that it does not go into the chronic stage or death. And any nonsense (illness) is needed so that immunity is strong - if immunity is a strong organism that overcomes the disease.
              3. vostok68
                vostok68 18 September 2013 19: 14 New
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                Yes, I’m a radio electronics engineer, it’s a shame, now Americans are superior to us in microchips by an order of magnitude, we have to buy microchips from them bypassing customs barriers!
                1. Tambov we ...
                  Tambov we ... 19 September 2013 19: 36 New
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                  Do not sprinkle ash on your head. But the right word was written - NOW. And next hour ???
            2. Apollo
              Apollo 18 September 2013 09: 19 New
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              Alexander will answer dinner, I.
              Quote: We refund_SSSR
              The USA is a fairly developed country,

              I agree, but the question is due to what or whom. Due to the robbery of other nations.
              Quote: We refund_SSSR
              moreover, it is objectively more developed than the Russian Federation both militarily and economically.

              You forget your colleague that it was Russia that bore the hardships of two world wars. The question is, would you, the United States pull the strap ?!
              Quote: We refund_SSSR
              And even more so, one should not be likened to the rulers of the USA who have lost their minds and claim Russian superiority over Americans.

              What did you have for breakfast ?!
              Quote: We refund_SSSR
              Or do you insist on the exclusivity of your nation?

              Alexander why are you writing between the lines. laughing
              see what conclusion was made.
              1. Refund_SSSR
                Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 09: 22 New
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                Let's not look for excuses, but speak in fact!
                Yes, the Russians endured many trials, including because of the United States.
                Yes, the United States often achieves its superiority by barbaric methods, but this does not mean that the United States does not claim a leading role in several areas at once.
                And even more so does not deny the fact that the United States is a superpower.
                1. Apollo
                  Apollo 18 September 2013 09: 29 New
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                  Quote: We refund_SSSR
                  Yes, the Russians endured many trials,

                  why do we write in the third person ?!
                  Quote: We refund_SSSR
                  And even more so does not deny the fact that the United States is a superpower.

                  we have inspired ourselves.
                  1. Refund_SSSR
                    Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 09: 34 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Apollon
                    why do we write in the third person ?!

                    Oh, well, if it hurts you, then I'm sorry ... The usual practice of business speech is not Yakat.
                    Quote: Apollon
                    we have inspired ourselves.

                    Are there any objective spells? or can google on the meaning of the definition of a given term and the criteria of the term?
                  2. Setrac
                    Setrac 18 September 2013 23: 35 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Apollon
                    why do we write in the third person ?!

                    This is called modesty. Considering that I personally did not participate, for example, in the Great Patriotic War, to say “we won” or “I won” is not just incorrect, but it means shamefully asking for other people's merits.
                2. alexng
                  alexng 18 September 2013 11: 48 New
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                  Quote: We refund_SSSR
                  And even more so does not deny the fact that the United States is a superpower.


                  Well, about the superpower, it's debatable. Maybe super-lying, more suitable.
                  Even with estimates of GDP, they are not like people, i.e. services are also included in this percentage of GDP.
                  Regarding electronics - it’s generally absurd to compare different technologies. We have different electronics, but no worse. In terms of mass production of DA, the rest is from the evil one. I know what I'm saying, since I work in the field of electronic information support. In harsh conditions, their vaunted electronics are no good, compared to Russian. So looking at what angle to look at these things. What is the use of "you have a whole horn of cartridges" if a sniper needs only one cartridge in the confrontation. This is so by the way.
                  1. Semurg
                    Semurg 18 September 2013 13: 48 New
                    +3
                    Quote: alexneg
                    Quote: We refund_SSSR
                    And even more so does not deny the fact that the United States is a superpower.


                    Well, about the superpower, it's debatable. Maybe super-lying, more suitable.
                    Even with estimates of GDP, they are not like people, i.e. services are also included in this percentage of GDP.
                    Regarding electronics - it’s generally absurd to compare different technologies. We have different electronics, but no worse. In terms of mass production of DA, the rest is from the evil one. I know what I'm saying, since I work in the field of electronic information support. In harsh conditions, their vaunted electronics are no good, compared to Russian. So looking at what angle to look at these things. What is the use of "you have a whole horn of cartridges" if a sniper needs only one cartridge in the confrontation. This is so by the way.

                    not a specialist, but it seems he read somewhere that the electronics for space are good in the USA and France and the space is in very harsh conditions?
                    1. alexng
                      alexng 19 September 2013 00: 54 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Semurg
                      not a specialist, but it seems he read somewhere that the electronics for space are good in the USA and France and the space is in very harsh conditions?


                      It is a very dubious infa, since Omron controllers (Japan) were used as on-board computers at the Shuttles, and Israeli avionics are generally used on most US aircraft. And space is not quite a good field for comparison; other conditions and methods of external protection are created there. Yes, and this is a piece production, like a Stradivarius violin. I would give some convincing examples from my practice, but so far there is neither time for this, nor desire. In general, the most valuable thing in imported Western electronic equipment is the labels. But the East for Russia is a real competitor in this area.
                  2. kargrom
                    kargrom 18 September 2013 13: 48 New
                    +4
                    I would also mention the destructive power of a sniper cartridge, seasoned with a keen sense of justice and a portion of the Russian spirit!
                3. lewerlin53rus
                  lewerlin53rus 18 September 2013 12: 26 New
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                  Quote: We refund_SSSR
                  The United States often strives for its superiority by barbaric methods, but this does not mean that the United States does not claim a leading role in several areas at once.

                  In simpler terms, the United States is striving for world domination. And once again we talked about Russian national traditions, I want to remind you that one of them is to break the backbone of such aspirants for the role of master of the world
              2. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 09: 33 New
                +3
                Quote: Apollon
                Alexander why do you write between the lines

                Apollo, damn **** I have only two eggs left, I’ll have to fly to the store am
                1. Tartary
                  Tartary 18 September 2013 15: 13 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Apollo, damn **** I have only two eggs left, I’ll have to fly to the store am


                  And I only had two and it was always ... repeat

                  Robocop ?? lol

                  From the grocery store additional "cartridges" fit? what
              3. Botanologist
                Botanologist 18 September 2013 20: 39 New
                +3
                Quote: Apollon
                The question is, to you, the United States would pull the strap ?!


                I would have pulled it.
                Mlyn, are you really seriously trying to convince yourself that the United States is a shny country? Then fig, are we listening to her? We would have come and thrown zvizdyule even in the UN, even in Washington!
                Does not work? So maybe because our Wishlist is just our Wishlist, and the first economy of the world is the first economy of the world? And it is not worth building our Wishlist in absolute truth. They were brought back even to Russian-Japanese, even to 1941. We remember how then they rested.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 18 September 2013 23: 39 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Botanologist
                  I would have pulled it.

                  I wouldn’t pull it. The United States simply could not physically deploy troops in Europe enough to defeat the Nazis, based on logistics. They would have bombed and cleared away, and there the German atomic bomb would have arrived.
            3. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 09: 25 New
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              Quote: We refund_SSSR
              The United States is a fairly developed country, and it is objectively more developed than the Russian Federation both militarily and economically.

              The greatness of the country as a power is not loot and tanks. The great power of the country has always been determined by traditions, culture, family values. A loot it is today, and tomorrow? There is no money and no army. The greatness of the country is the pillar of statehood on which it can rely in difficult times. What will America rely on, can they remember how the Indians soaked? Or they may remember that all blacks were slaves.
              1. Refund_SSSR
                Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 09: 28 New
                +4
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                The greatness of the country as a power is not loot and tanks

                from your previous posts, it can be concluded that the greatness of a nation is determined by grub wassat laughing
                There is no national cuisine, no culture

                How many Russians have truly Russian traditions left?
                1. Apollo
                  Apollo 18 September 2013 09: 42 New
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                  Quote: We refund_SSSR
                  determined by grub

                  National cuisine is an integral part of national culture. What is incomprehensible here.
                  Quote: We refund_SSSR
                  How many Russians have truly Russian traditions left?

                  I’ll write for my people, all traditions are preserved, I’m more than sure that the Russian people have preserved and, moreover, increased them. Do you yourself honor the folk traditions, do you need to start first with yourself ?!
                  1. Refund_SSSR
                    Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 09: 46 New
                    0
                    Quote: Apollon
                    I will write for my people

                    Let’s for the Russians. So:
                    How many truly Russian dishes used by wide circles of society?
                    How many truly Russian traditions respected by most representatives of the nation?
                    Only in fact, without previous fantasies on a free theme laughing
                    1. Apollo
                      Apollo 18 September 2013 09: 48 New
                      +4
                      Quote: We refund_SSSR
                      Let’s for the Russians.

                      there is no habit of going to someone else’s monastery with its own charter.
                      1. Refund_SSSR
                        Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 09: 52 New
                        +4
                        there is no habit of going to someone else’s monastery with its own charter.

                        Judging by previous posts in this topic - this habit is not just what it is, it is also zealously defending itself laughing
                        I wrote above for the Russians (to whom I refer myself), but for some reason they got into a dispute.
                        I wrote above that you should not underestimate people with a different system of values, but for some reason you answered this by looking “from your bell tower”.
                        Something like this ...
                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 10: 04 New
                        +4
                        Quote: We refund_SSSR
                        Something like this ...

                        Yes, because he lived in Russia, grew up in it, and now lives in Baku.
                      3. Apollo
                        Apollo 18 September 2013 10: 05 New
                        +2
                        Quote: We refund_SSSR
                        I wrote above for the Russians (to whom I refer myself), but for some reason they got into a dispute.


                        I asked you a question and you left unanswered.

                        Quote: Apollon
                        And you yourself honor the folk traditions, do you need to start first with yourself ?!

                        ?????
                      4. Refund_SSSR
                        Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 10: 09 New
                        -4
                        Quote: Apollon
                        ?????

                        Abide by
                        Quote: Apollon
                        I asked you a question and you left unanswered.

                        Do you have to say ?! laughing
                      5. Apollo
                        Apollo 18 September 2013 10: 27 New
                        +2
                        Quote: We refund_SSSR
                        Abide by

                        set an example.
                        Quote: We refund_SSSR
                        Do you have to say ?!

                        but do we say, we write, who else ?! wassat
                  2. Alibekulu
                    Alibekulu 18 September 2013 15: 25 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    What other values, what power. Who ever said that America is a great power ??? There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and warriors, that’s all America.
                    say ... And you (Urashniki) then who ??
                    Current turns Great Russia merged the Cold War to the idiots who have no values ​​and no elementary culture or even national cuisine .. belay
                    So who are you then ??!
                    Quote: We refund_SSSR
                    do not underestimate people with a different value system
                    good
                  3. Raiven
                    Raiven 18 September 2013 16: 55 New
                    0
                    leaked not the USSR in the struggle, but humpbacked
                  4. Alibekulu
                    Alibekulu 19 September 2013 08: 12 New
                    0
                    Quote: Raiven
                    leaked not the USSR in the struggle, but humpbacked
                    Yeah request
                    Then it was not the Russians who won the 1812 war of the year, but Kutuzov.
                    In WWII, the ridge of Nazi Germany broke the ridge of Zhukov (Stalin), and not the Soviet Union.
                    Quote: v.lyamkin
                    While there was the USSR, it was believed in the republics that they all fed and watered Russia.
                    You, my friend, do not get the hell out of your head for health ..
                    It is in the RSFSR that the mood was widespread that the national republics were "eating up" Russia. Yes, even now these slogans remained, only the Caucasus took the place of the Central Asian republics - “Stop feeding the Caucasus”
                    Here on the site you can see a lot of comments about how well (elegantly) the republics lived at the expense of Russia ..
                    Quote: v.lyamkin
                    And now the gentleman from Kazakhstan urgently forgot (or didn’t know?) That Kazakhstan itself was part of the USSR.
                    We remember everything, both good and bad ..
                    Quote: v.lyamkin
                    And to say that Russia was the one who lost the Cold War (and not the USSR and Kazakhstan together) is somehow not very fair.
                    In Belovezhskaya Pushcha, where the fall of the USSR and, accordingly, the defeat of the Soviet Union in the Cold War were actually recorded you are Kazakhs, did not happen to see ??!
                    Quote: Setrac
                    The Cold War is not over and to say that someone leaked it, and someone won - is a hoax.
                    The Cold War was confronted by 2 military-political blocs: NATO led by the United States and ATS under the leadership of the USSR ..
                    NATO and the United States at present, we can see how the subjects of world politics, but their opponents ... repeat
                  5. Setrac
                    Setrac 19 September 2013 12: 43 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Alibekulu
                    It is in the RSFSR that the mood was widespread that the national republics were "eating" Russia.

                    We ate where to go. You do not see this because Kazakhstan was self-sufficient.
                    Quote: Alibekulu
                    Here on the site you can see a lot of comments about how well (elegantly) the republics lived at the expense of Russia ..

                    The Baltic states, Georgia lived very smartly at the expense of Russian. In fact, only Belarus and Kazakhstan were self-sufficient.
              2. Setrac
                Setrac 18 September 2013 23: 43 New
                0
                Quote: Alibekulu
                Current turns Great Russia merged the Cold War to the idiots who have no values ​​and no elementary culture or even national cuisine ..

                The Cold War is not over and to say that someone leaked it, and someone won - is a hoax.
              3. v.lyamkin
                v.lyamkin 19 September 2013 05: 38 New
                -2
                Well yes. While there was the USSR, it was believed in the republics that they all fed and watered Russia. And now the gentleman from Kazakhstan urgently forgot (or didn’t know?) That Kazakhstan itself was part of the USSR. And to say that Russia was the one who lost the Cold War (and not the USSR and Kazakhstan together) is somehow not very fair.
              4. Essenger
                Essenger 22 September 2013 17: 18 New
                +2
                Quote: v.lyamkin
                that Russia lost the Cold War (and not the USSR and Kazakhstan together) is somehow not very fair.


                And the Kazakhs lost the Kazakhs on hand.
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 10: 03 New
        +5
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        How many truly Russian dishes are consumed by wide circles of society?

        Yes, many and many dishes, if you sat down on pizza, then these are your difficulties.
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        How many truly Russian traditions

        Many traditions are respected and not one of them is not associated with the dough.
        1. ziqzaq
          ziqzaq 18 September 2013 16: 23 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Yes, many and a lot of dishes, if you sat down on pizza

          By the way, the same Russian cuisine - the pie is called, just the Italians say it was a problem that they called pizza ....
      4. ksandr45
        ksandr45 18 September 2013 15: 54 New
        +3
        I will be brief, one example for each item.
        How many truly Russian dishes - dumplings, the most popular example.
        How many truly Russian traditions - the baptism of children is still massive (at least in my family and the families of my relatives and friends, everyone goes with crosses) and many bathe in the hole in baptism for baptism.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 18 September 2013 23: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: ksandr45
          How many truly Russian dishes

          Dumplings, borscht, cabbage soup, ear, cabbage rolls? ...
        2. Fornit
          Fornit 19 September 2013 12: 56 New
          0
          Quote: ksandr45

          How many truly Russian dishes - dumplings, the most popular example.


          Dumplings, by the way, crawled out from Siberia from China, but turnips - the original Russian product was completely forgotten !!! And kvass turned figs knows what!
        3. Marek Rozny
          Marek Rozny 20 September 2013 06: 51 New
          +1
          dumplings - originally a Chinese dish, got to the Russians through the Siberian peoples.
          borsch is the invention of Roman legionnaires in Dacia (if I am not mistaken), and from there it went to travel in Eastern Europe. Romanians, Poles, Lithuanians got acquainted with this dish a little earlier than Russians.
          cabbage rolls - a dish that came from the Caucasus, originally it is dolma.

          but kvass, cabbage soup, pickles, fish soup, porridge, steamed vegetables are purely Russian dishes (other peoples sometimes have similar dishes, but these are inventions independent of each other).

          Z.Y. I do not want to be accused at all of trying to insult Russian cuisine and looking for non-Russian roots in it)))) Russian cuisine is much richer than many European cuisines. For example, the Dutch have a national dish - stupidly ... herring) And that is) Kazakhs, Kyrgyz have many dishes that are considered to be their own, but are actually borrowed from the neighboring settled Turks (Uzbeks, Uyghurs) - pilaf, lagman manti. Moreover, pilaf has Tajik roots, lagman has Chinese (Dungan) roots, and manti - perhaps Chinese roots. Purely Kazakh (Turkic-Mongolian) phenomena are dishes of boiled meat, sour-milk cuisine, and exotic recipes of stews (in the skin) have almost disappeared.
          Z.Z.Y. Wrote and wanted manty))) In the evening I banged.
    2. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 18 September 2013 16: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Apollon
      And you yourself honor the folk traditions, do you need to start first with yourself ?!

      Regularly, the main measure is to know ........
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 09: 59 New
    +6
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    from your previous posts, it can be concluded that the greatness of a nation is determined by grub

    They couldn’t write anything smarter, although judging by the fact that you measure greatness with tanks and dough, it’s not surprising.
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    How many Russians have truly Russian traditions left?

    if you forgot Russian traditions, then I feel sorry for you!
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 10: 04 New
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      They couldn’t write anything smarter

      Actually, I copied your phrase from your first message in this thread ... and by the way, I hinted at the Unreasonability of this phrase with the word "Bend" ...
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      if you forgot Russian traditions, then I feel sorry for you!

      Let's in fact (only in fact, be a man, Alexander! Do not jump from the answer):
      How many truly Russian dishes are consumed by wide circles of society?
      How many truly Russian traditions are respected by most representatives of the nation?


      Typical dishes and products of American cuisine (stupid Wikipedia)

      American cheese - a dairy product that is made from rennet cheese, cheese for melting, cottage cheese, butter and other dairy products with spices and toppings by melting cheese mass (at a temperature of 75-95 ° C.) - made from a mixture of cheeses, most often colby and cheddar.

      Peanut butter
      Mashed Tomato Soup and American Cheese Toast
      Clam Chowder (Seafood Soup)
      Chili con carne - spicy meat dish with chili pepper
      Jambalaya - a dish of rice, meat and vegetables
      Taco
      Bagel
      BBQ
      Steak
      Hamburger
      Gumbo
      Mashed potatoes
      Banana bread
      Ham
      Sandwiches
      Corn Dog
      Corn bread
      Cornflakes
      Waldorf salad
      Caesar salad"
      Tabasco sauce
      Thousand Island Sauce

      Sweet
      Pecan pie
      Pumpkin Pie
      Brownie - Chocolate Cake
      Chocolate Chip Cookies - Chocolate Chip Cookies
      Donuts
      Muffin - Small Cupcake
      Banana split
      Cheesecake
      Marshmallow
      Klenovыy syrup
      Popcorn

      I’m embarrassed to ask how many of these Russians eat and how many Russian dishes Americans eat ???
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 10: 33 New
        +6
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        Actually, I copied your phrase from your first post in this thread.

        What, do you think the cuisine is not a tradition? I don’t know where you live, but ... it's an out.
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        How many truly Russian dishes are consumed by wide circles of society?

        Should I list all the soups and main dishes? Traditions in Russia are observed, many of them are holidays, such as Shrovetide or apple salvation, someone is observed by someone not. But people remember and celebrate. There are other traditions in Russia, not measuring life by money, a heightened sense of justice is ours tradition. Orthodoxy is our tradition for 1000 years. What else do you want?

        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        I am embarrassed to ask how many of all this is eaten by Russians and how many Russian dishes are eaten by Americans ??

        Rummaged in Wick laughing I don’t eat American cuisine, it’s just stupidly not. I eat normal Russian food. Tomato Soup wassat
        1. Refund_SSSR
          Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 10: 42 New
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          those. is this an answer in essence ?! laughing
          Alexander, well, this is really bad ...
          If we compare the list of traditions of America and Russia, it is not yet known who has more traditions (with such a difference in history).
          If we compare the list of dishes, then the difference will not be great either, and it is also not known in whose favor.

          So why throw loud phrases if you can’t answer without juggling and jumping off the topic?
          This is very sad Alexander ... Do not disgrace us, Russian men! For one of our traditions is to respect the enemy and speak in essence.

          And do not forget the Russian wisdom that power is in truth! Whatever the truth is - it must be able to recognize with honor and dignity, and not stupidly beat yourself in the chest and boast.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 11: 00 New
          +3
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          If we compare the list of traditions of America and Russia, it is not yet known who has more traditions

          So call your sweetheart, maybe the day of the national flag, which they themselves first celebrate, and then burn in honor of another protest.
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          If you compare the list of dishes, then the difference will not be great either

          Even greater nonsense, even nothing to comment on.
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          So why throw loud phrases if you can’t answer without juggling and jumping off the topic?

          I didn’t answer you, well, really. What is the USA proud of, what is its greatness ??? grandmothers and homosexual army, from your words this is their pride.
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          . Do not disgrace us, Russian men!

          Given that each of your comments is plus an American who sent me in a personal email that Putin and I are two SU **, I begin to doubt very much that you are Russian. And yes, Amer also said that he was Russian laughing
        3. Tartary
          Tartary 18 September 2013 15: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          So call your sweetheart, maybe the day of the national flag, which they themselves first celebrate, and then burn in honor of another protest.

          By the way ... My girlfriend comes home for a visit a few days later from there, so I ordered her the flag of the SGA (USA on Onotol) directly from the store to Chicago ...
          Grit, why? Do you want to burn? belay

          I answer: - not immediately ... lol first, for a long time, I will cut on it the Far Eastern herring, cucumbers, co-brews of the Ukrainian brand ... Then I will extinguish the bulls ... Well, then ... But later wink - Suddenly what occasion will turn up traveling ... laughing
        4. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 18 September 2013 15: 36 New
          +4
          Quote: Tartary
          ... first, for a long time I will cut on it the Far Eastern herring, cucumbers, co-brew of the brand "Ukrainian" ... Then I will extinguish the bulls ... Well, and then ... But later - suddenly what kind of excuse will turn up ...


          The level of your patriotism is simply staggering ... wassat
  3. Tartary
    Tartary 18 September 2013 15: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I don’t eat American cuisine, it’s just stupidly not. I eat normal Russian food. Tomato Soup


    ... and I eat sturgeon - simple Russian food,
    Simple ru-o-o-o-o-us food - I catch it in my pond ... laughing
  4. Fornit
    Fornit 19 September 2013 13: 00 New
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    good
    A tomato soup is tastier if it is from a can way ...
    (a hint of Warhall's light on Andy ... That's where the culture just rumbles !!!)
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 18 September 2013 12: 50 New
    +3
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Typical American Food and Products

    The fertile land of Tuscany provides excellent vegetables and fruits, as well as pastures for livestock breeding. Pork, beef and game dishes are popular. Among Tuscan dishes, Florentine beef steak gained fame
    In general, Italians, Germans, French and British were left without their national dishes, now it is all American national food, which is not surprising to me.
    I'm like a non-Russian gathering about Russian traditions
    - Bath, vodka, brown bread, herring.
    There are Russian national songs, dances, ornaments, clothes,ЫЗЫК, tales and much more that is missing from the Americans.
    But the Americans have the most powerful army, and if the General Secretary set ultimatums during the USSR, now persuading the Americans not to bomb Syria is considered a huge diplomatic success. Tomorrow Obama will change his mind, bomb the Syria, grab the Saudi grandmothers, and no one will interfere, they will only condemn, or can substitute Russia their ancient fleet with the boys, they have the same Russian spirit.
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 18 September 2013 16: 33 New
    +4
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Typical dishes and products of American cuisine (stupid Wikipedia)


    "About how many wonderful discoveries we have ..." Wikipedia can give ...
    Mashed potatoes and seasonings were especially touched.

    But that’s not even the point - here are stupidly listed "tradition to devour and help .."- which is also AMRICAN TRADITIONtradition consumer societies, but not creation.
  • Raiven
    Raiven 18 September 2013 17: 00 New
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    But did they come up with all this or did they adopt it from the emigrants?
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 18 September 2013 17: 19 New
    +5
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    I’m embarrassed to ask how many of these Russians eat and how many Russian dishes Americans eat ???


    The tradition of Russian cuisine is hot first courses: soup, cabbage soup, borsch, cereals of all sorts, which are most often cooked at home.
    Walking in restaurants is also not part of Russian traditions ...
  • Tambov we ...
    Tambov we ... 18 September 2013 17: 54 New
    +3
    Well, if you try your dishes - please:
    BORSCHT:
    Ukrainian,
    Donbass
    Rostov
    rooster borscht
    beef borscht,
    borsch with giblets,
    lean borscht,
    green borscht with sorrel and chicken eggs

    SCHI:
    lean
    meat
    red
    white cabbage soup
    nettle cabbage soup

    RESOURGES:
    list confused

    PEA SOUPS,
    BUCKWHEAT SOUPS,

    FISH !!!:
    single
    double
    triple !!!
    These are only the first dishes of the Great Country of Russia.
    Well, pizza dishes?
  • yur
    yur 18 September 2013 21: 29 New
    0
    Forgive me, but what does barbecue (spoiled kebab), steak, mashed potatoes, ham, sandwiches, chocolate cake, donuts have to do with American cuisine? All this, as well as much more from your list, existed centuries before the formation of the USA.
  • Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 19 September 2013 02: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    I’m embarrassed to ask how many of these Russians eat

    Can you eat it !? belay Well you duodorang right wassat
  • Tartary
    Tartary 18 September 2013 15: 22 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    How many Russians have truly Russian traditions left?

    if you forgot Russian traditions, then I feel sorry for you!

    Can one call it a Russian tradition - slowly harness ??

    If so, then such a tradition needs to be adjusted to a function more or less slowly, striving to achieve the absolute - instantly or always harnessed ...

    The tradition is to drive fast, it’s better to leave ...

    For example, like this: - Russians instantly harness and drive fast ... am

    In general, Putin is already somewhere close to this, because bridged the situation in Syria not very slowly and even rather very quickly ... Well, what can I say ?? request
  • FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 18 September 2013 10: 45 New
    +3
    How many Russians have truly Russian traditions left?.... And that little7 Everything remained ...... Shrovetide, Easter, Apple, Green, Honey Spas ... and other, other, other ......... Or do you think that on the night of Ivan Kupala, all 150 million should jump through the woods through the fires, showing allegiance to tradition? And pies and kulebyaki, and dumplings and okroshka ....... What have we lost then? Well, keep in mind that the 21st century in the yard, and not the 13-15th
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 18 September 2013 10: 50 New
      +4
      Do you think there are few holidays and customs in America?
      Yes, even Halloween and St. Valentine's Day, which is celebrated here, in Russia!
      And how many more ?! And Thanksgiving and Christmas, etc. etc.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 11: 15 New
        +5
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        Yes, at least Halloween and day

        Lucifer will be celebrated soon.
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        and St. Valentine's Day, which is also celebrated in Russia!

        It is celebrated by those who do not know who Saint Valentine is.
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        And Thanksgiving and Christmas, etc. etc.

        I forgot about Independence Day and that’s probably all!
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 19 September 2013 02: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          It is celebrated by those who do not know who Saint Valentine is.

          Dog canonized tongue
      2. Prorox
        Prorox 18 September 2013 12: 33 New
        +3
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        Do you think there are few holidays and customs in America?


        In the understanding of history and traditions, America behaves in such a way that before its proclamation there was no civilization, savages weren’t in order, the first were “civilized” by the Indians, the survivors of the reservations were really envious of the exterminated, since then they have not been able to stop.
        And of course, Christmas, the "American" holiday, do not tell.
        And yes, JV Stalin is Russian !!!
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 18 September 2013 14: 01 New
          +3
          America behaves like an ordinary empire at the zenith of its power, nothing new and unusual.
        2. Prorox
          Prorox 18 September 2013 14: 25 New
          +4
          Quote: Semurg
          America behaves like an ordinary empire at the zenith of its power, nothing new and unusual.


          Then why didn’t it behave (“like an ordinary empire”)? The Russian empire and peoples did not disappear, persist, develop as our country developed.
        3. Semurg
          Semurg 18 September 2013 21: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: Prorox
          Quote: Semurg
          America behaves like an ordinary empire at the zenith of its power, nothing new and unusual.


          Then why didn’t it behave (“like an ordinary empire”)? The Russian empire and peoples did not disappear, persist, develop as our country developed.

          I will not be for all the peoples at the expense of the Kazakhs under the Republic of Ingushetia there was a purely imperial policy with external management, with requisition of the best lands, with the resettlement of Slavs in the occupied lands, etc. In the USSR, the light empire, at least under Brezhnev with intensified Russification, building a new community (people ) on the basis of Russian culture and language. What would have come in 30-40 years can be clearly seen on the example of the Chuvash and Mordovians who have lost their national identity and will soon be another subsection of Russians (something like Pomors) .Well, but outside the USSR purely imperialist interfering in almost all conflicts around the world (defended his vision of the world order).
        4. Setrac
          Setrac 18 September 2013 23: 55 New
          0
          Quote: Semurg
          Well, beyond the borders of the USSR, he behaved purely imperial, interfering in almost all conflicts around the world (he defended his vision of the world order).

          This is demagogy, so as not to appear unfounded, indicate such a conflict.
        5. Semurg
          Semurg 19 September 2013 09: 43 New
          +1
          Afghanistan was the last and before it, in all parts of the world, from direct troop entry to the supply of weapons and instructors who often fought for one of the parties. But there is no need for inter. debt, etc. The USSR and the United States actually two empires sorted out relations around the world.
        6. Marek Rozny
          Marek Rozny 20 September 2013 07: 15 New
          +3
          My philosophy teacher (in Almaty) was proud of the Order of the Red Star received for participating in hostilities in Ethiopia. True, he admits that as a young kid he did not understand at all where he was and what he was doing. They dressed up in non-Soviet uniforms, gave the machine gun and said to guard the base, and if anyone appears from behind the trees - open fire to kill.
          I was familiar with people who fought in Somalia and Egypt, as Soviet soldiers.
          "The Soviet Union protests to the US government that Washington is interfering in the internal affairs of the USSR in all corners of the planet."
        7. Semurg
          Semurg 20 September 2013 09: 12 New
          +3
          hi. that the negative dynamics on the shoulder straps “pensioners and pensioners” on the site are strong to know if even you are an ardent supporter of the revival of the union drown only because you write that the first union of Russians and Kazakhs brought not only gingerbread but also slap-backs on the bill the union has not changed, the more I read the more I’m convinced that we are in a hurry with the union by 2015. Of course, the NAS says that we won’t lose a gram, but our ancestors thought the same thing, but their descendants almost became Russian with Asian faces and would soon begin to sing “Altyn Besik Aulym” and “My native village”?
  • ziqzaq
    ziqzaq 18 September 2013 16: 30 New
    0
    Quote: Semurg
    America behaves like an ordinary empire at the zenith of its power, nothing new and unusual.

    More likely closer to sunset .......
  • Semurg
    Semurg 18 September 2013 21: 23 New
    +2
    Quote: ziqzaq
    Quote: Semurg
    America behaves like an ordinary empire at the zenith of its power, nothing new and unusual.

    More likely closer to sunset .......

    Perhaps this will only show time, it may roll back, and it may intensify even more. Throughout my conscious life, I only hear that the USA is soon kirdyk and they are more alive than all the living and even managed to bury their supposedly undertaker (USSR).
  • Tambov we ...
    Tambov we ... 18 September 2013 18: 09 New
    +2
    Yes, no one disputes that there are holidays in America, BUT, you just don’t have to attribute helvin to Russia (I’m writing this way, I don’t want to distort my language for the sake of overseas propaganda), and to thank us Russians are not decent American invented traditions, but Valentine your saint Our Ivan Kupala is several thousand years older and revered.
  • Misantrop
    Misantrop 18 September 2013 13: 44 New
    +6
    Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
    All remained ...... Shrovetide, Easter, Apple, Green, Honey Spas ... and other, other, other ......... Or do you think that on the night of Ivan Kupala all 150 million Should they jump through the fires through the fires, showing fidelity to traditions? And pies and kulebyaki, and dumplings and okroshka .......
    You can open a book by Pokhlebkin, there are so many of these dishes that the forum engine will not pull lol By the way, in large cities in the United States there are quite a few Russian restaurants. And do not live in poverty, which is characteristic. And will anyone remember at least one American restaurant in the Russian Federation? Do not offer cheap over-fatty foods such as fast food, this is not food, but its surrogate, a cheap substitute.
    As for traditions, the OLD NEW YEAR is celebrated only by immigrants from the USSR, while others try to understand the essence of this holiday from tearing the roof wassat
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 18 September 2013 12: 01 New
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    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    How many Russians have truly Russian traditions left?

    1. The fundamental Russian tradition is the mutual love of children and mother, and the main component of this love is RESPECT for the mother. That is why we really do not like and despise those who are sitting on the neck of a retired mother until her last days.
    2. As a direct consequence, with such ethnic family traditions, a hole in love is perceived as an insult to an entire nation that does not even allow the thought of violence against children, same-sex marriage, and other democratic values.
    And this is only the beginning in the explanation of the Russian Traditions.
  • ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 18 September 2013 09: 51 New
    0
    By your logic, Greece, Egypt, the Great Powers, have traditions, culture, history.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 18 September 2013 11: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: ivshubarin
      By your logic, Greece, Egypt, the Great Powers, have traditions, culture, history.


      Don't you think so? And Greece and Egypt, countries with ancient history and at one time were Great Powers - is not it?
      1. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 18 September 2013 12: 13 New
        +1
        The fact of the matter is that in the past there were
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 18 September 2013 12: 38 New
          +3
          Quote: ivshubarin
          The fact of the matter is that in the past there were

          What do you think is great - a large territory, army and navy, standard of living and the presence of dough? What a purely American approach, a practical person with a lack of fundamental human values. You ask yourself, is it possible to consider a great power without history (a 200-year-old history of the United States is a story of shame), without universal values, without respect for other peoples and their rights, without traditions? Can a country be considered a great power that considers itself "exceptional" and kills millions to achieve world domination and ordinary gain?
          1. ivshubarin
            ivshubarin 18 September 2013 12: 49 New
            0
            In the context of globalization, there are no great powers, borders are erased, there are only economic interests
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 18 September 2013 11: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    The greatness of the country as a power is not loot and tanks. The great power of the country has always been determined by traditions, culture, family values. A loot it is today, and tomorrow? There is no money and no army. The greatness of the country is the pillar of statehood on which it can rely in difficult times. What will America rely on, can they remember how the Indians soaked? Or they may remember that all blacks were slaves.


    I absolutely agree with you, in addition to spiritual and moral values, I would add - the history of the country. Russia has a history, does the United States have 200 years of its existence according to Satanic principles, a sea of ​​blood, war, the destruction and plunder of entire countries and peoples - well, how can a normal person turn his tongue to call this country great? What are their “values” based on - only on the basis of profit, well, is the ability to earn a lot by heading over is the value that determines the greatness of a nation?
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  • Ossetian.
    Ossetian. 18 September 2013 18: 00 New
    +2
    Correctly noticed ... money, tanks are not a sign of power good
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  • baltika-18
    baltika-18 18 September 2013 11: 57 New
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    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Let's not wake up playing hats and screaming Urya!

    I support you in this matter. But I will express my opinion on this. The United States is currently not actually a power. It is a military-political tool in the hands of powerful transnational financial-industrial groups striving for globalization. They establish the rules of the game, according to them. forced to play everything. At the moment on planet Earth there is not a single completely independent state. Those who want to live on their own turns into an outcast.
    1. Prorox
      Prorox 18 September 2013 12: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: baltika-18
      Anyone who wants to live by himself turns into an outcast.


      Recent Syrian events show the opposite picture and this is only the beginning.
  • Misantrop
    Misantrop 18 September 2013 13: 32 New
    +4
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    US science is also slightly ahead of ours.
    It’s just that for some reason immigrants in the first generation move it for some reason, at least there are very few children of emigrants among scientific workers. Strange, right? wink
  • Phase
    Phase 18 September 2013 14: 09 New
    +6
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Let's not wake up playing hats and screaming Urya!
    The United States is a fairly developed country, and it is objectively more developed than the Russian Federation both militarily and economically.
    US science is also slightly ahead of ours.
    No matter how I regard the United States as a nation and state, but I do not allow myself to underestimate ... actually the enemy

    Lord, well, at least one sane person on the site! The haters, as it were, softer ... weary. Well, quite tired. Well, finally.
    In my opinion, the patriotism of the participant is recognized on this resource the more, the more hysterically, arrogant and stupid he speaks out against the United States.
    Yes, America is certainly our enemy. But this is our enemy number 2. And the enemy number 1 - our domestic idiots .
    1. goldfinger
      goldfinger 18 September 2013 14: 40 New
      +4
      From Minsk. Bravo, Phase! I think that there are more normal people on the site, but they are, as it were, afraid of ss..t against the wind, because of an unprecedented system of pluses, minuses, epaulets and other. Indeed, in the "field marshals" people go talking the truths, like - "Russia is the birthplace of elephants!" “Let's break the dog’s head to the liberal pederasts!” “Down with Geyrop!
      "homosexual", etc. etc. About rabid racism, I'm already silent! The "cannibal" Ellochka dictionary was richer! And, most importantly, be noted first in his correct patriotism!
      Previously, even at party meetings, such ignorant frenzy was not. I testify.
      1. Phase
        Phase 18 September 2013 15: 42 New
        +5
        Quote: goldfinger
        Indeed, in the "field marshals" people go talking the truths, like - "Russia is the birthplace of elephants!" “We'll break the dog’s head to the liberal pederasts!” “Down withGeyrop!

        This is just sad. A site where serious issues could be discussed and reasoned and informative opinions of people versed in the subject could be heard turned into a wall with emotional cheers and patriotic interjections. Moreover, not a single gram of useful information.
        Quote: goldfinger
        About rabid racism, I'm already silent!

        It amazes me too. I have to visit foreign forums, including American ones. So, if someone there said bad things about Russian, dismissive, or derogatory, then he would be immediately banned. About the fact that there someone could say about the Russians that what they say about the Americans here can not even be conceived. And the point here is not even punitive sanctions. It's just that people simply have a sense of self-esteem and they simply will not go down to hysterical cries.
        Quote: goldfinger
        "homosexual", etc. and so on

        Here is a difficult question. I am opposed to the legalization of gay movements in any form. This is a very aggressive minority that seeks to impose its laws on the majority. It got to the point that the BBC editors are not recommended to use on air ... the words "mom" and "dad"! In order not to injure children growing up in same-sex families. This krant is already in my opinion ...
        Other deviants, by the way, do not behave like that. No one had ever heard of the parades of the masturbators or sadomaschochists. Zoophile parades are also unknown to me. And the gay movement is essentially a Masonic lodge that has captured key positions in many areas of business. I would like to prevent this in Russia.
        1. goldfinger
          goldfinger 18 September 2013 16: 22 New
          +4
          Neighbor Belarus. Dear ally! To be honest, about the last problem you mentioned, which has always been in old Russia and the USSR, I almost never heard of, except for the last two or three years. She, for some reason, is pushed out, and pushed to the front roles in the media, with enviable tenacity. Anyone who thinks will understand that this is a distraction. A way to divert the unconscious protest of people in the right direction for "someone". Like a whistle in a locomotive, where you can bleed off excess steam. And this, in Belarusian "metusnya", on this issue, gives exactly the opposite result! Already kindergarteners cannot be shown beautiful Soviet cartoons - “The Blue Puppy”, “The Blue Arrow”, the song to sing “The Blue Carriage!” I heard their conversation - “and you pedalast”! Die! It is by no means necessary to copy Europe, but as if not to overdo it, as usual. We wanted the best, but ..... You just need to stop the tantrums on this issue, forget it like a bad dream. Letting social and political energy the other way. And Europe is not a decree for us. By the way, there is no such topic in the Belarusian mass media, and in the baynet. Unfortunately, only in the Russian mass media and TV channels published in our country. They bring us this problem. But people do not go in cycles. I think that the Old Man is wiser in these matters, some of whom. He spoke out against the "dovecote" once, in passing, and - hello! In my opinion, right.
          .
          1. Phase
            Phase 18 September 2013 16: 30 New
            +2
            Quote: goldfinger
            She, for some reason, is pushed out, and pushed to the front roles in the media, with enviable tenacity. Anyone who thinks will understand that this is a distraction. A way to divert the unconscious protest of people in the right direction for "someone". Like a whistle in a locomotive, where you can bleed off excess steam.

            On the whole, I agree with your remark (I do not quote it entirely, avoiding excessive quoting). Yes, this is partly a descent of steam. But only in part. Yes, the problem has always been, but what was not there before was the imposition of legalization of gays with such aggressiveness. Just because there was then no targeted funding for this.
            The bottom line: bankers artificially instill unnatural drives that dominate their environment, and our officials - yes, use this to distract people from real problems.
        2. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 18 September 2013 21: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: Phase
          It amazes me too. I have to visit foreign forums, including American ones. So, if someone there said bad things about Russian, dismissive, or derogatory, then he would be immediately banned.

          Judging by this excerpt, you are a relatively young man. Due to the fact that for insulting in the USA it is possible to fall under serious judicial sanctions, they have developed a taboo from childhood. In general, in American forums, everything is very pathological. To the question whether President Obama is right, 99 people will answer that he is right, and to the question why he is right, 99 people will answer because he is our president and he cannot be wrong. That's where it is.
  • Tambov we ...
    Tambov we ... 18 September 2013 17: 05 New
    +2
    And do not talk about hatred. Just look at the political map of the planet, you can see a significant difference in the territories of Russia and the USA. Moreover, the territory of Russia was approximately within our present borders long before the advent of the United States. And do not talk about some invented power, in some kind of ephemeral and invented economy. Just one look at the territories that JUST DO NOT HAPPEN.
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 18 September 2013 18: 44 New
    0
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    If to me, then tell me what exactly is the greatness of the USA?

    Let's not wake up playing hats and screaming Urya!
    The United States is a fairly developed country, and it is objectively more developed than the Russian Federation both militarily and economically.
    US science is also slightly ahead of ours.
    No matter how I regard the United States as a nation and state, but I do not allow myself to underestimate ... in fact the enemy.
    And even more so, one should not be likened to the rulers of the USA who have lost their minds and declare Russian superiority over Americans.
    Or do you insist on the exclusivity of your nation?

    If in our time we didn’t allow such reptiles like humpbacked and Yeltsin to spoil and destroy our country, we would talk about not how much RUSSIA is behind the USA, but how much the USA is behind the USSR in 2013, and that to do what the United States would fall into 50 parts. But alas, overslept, we were lulled with sweet speeches, and those who understood what was happening just crushed, there were few of them. But better late than never, and now we came to our senses. RUSSIA was at worse condition in 1918. But our ancestors made RUSSIA even greater then. And I have no doubt that we can regain the greatness of RUSSIA. And by the way, the US debt is not 16 dollars. Here is the data. According to the University of California, the US debt is $ 000. Does a country with such a debt have a future?
    1. GREAT RUSSIA
      GREAT RUSSIA 18 September 2013 19: 11 New
      0
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      75 000 000 000

      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      +16 000 000 000 000 XNUMX

      Sorry I'm correcting my mistake. Not 75 (billions), but 000 (trillions).
  • Manager
    Manager 18 September 2013 09: 21 New
    +6
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Name, though, what can the USA be proud of?


    Culturally, nothing special. But there are pretty pretty cities in the USA. For example, NY is a really beautiful and thoughtful city. The number of skyscrapers just rolls over. In addition, access to skyscrapers is open. Unlike Moscow unfortunate 3 skyscrapers where 3 people a week for mad grandmothers drive. Otherwise, the US was lucky with the climate. From there, and many beautiful buildings.

    I can’t say anything more positive about the USA.
    But you can say a lot of bad things, so sheets will leave 5000000. And this is only with obscenities. 4 times more without a mat.
    1. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 18 September 2013 10: 49 New
      +1
      Of course, the climate will be warmer, only now every goal of the Tornado is demolished by the whole states of construction. very recent example of New Orleans, Kansas
  • Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 18 September 2013 09: 24 New
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What can the USA be proud of?

    Good morning everyone!
    But what about the ability to discreetly discard the gold reserves and other countries too? For a long time I could not understand the reasons for the sharp decline in gold prices and the equally rapid return to their previous sizes.
  • GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 18 September 2013 09: 24 New
    +5
    “America is a slightly greater power than Qatar”


    Qatar.
    Acute respiratory viral infection (ARVI), obsolete. ARI (acute respiratory disease), CVD (catarrh of the upper respiratory tract), common cold - a common viral disease of the upper respiratory tract. The main symptoms of SARS are runny nose, cough, sneezing, headache, sore throat, fatigue.

    http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/960440

    In the language of allegories, the United States is a tumor on the body of the planet. bully
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 18 September 2013 09: 36 New
      +6
      Quote: GreatRussia
      In the language of allegories, the United States is a tumor on the body of the planet.

      Silicone! Beautiful, outstanding, made with the latest technology, and for verification repeat SILICONE!
      Good day, everyone.
    2. alexng
      alexng 18 September 2013 12: 05 New
      +1
      Here is the confirmation.
      link http://warfiles.ru/show-38885-bankam-rossii-grozit-nakazanie-za-pomosch-basharu-
      asadu.html
      US senators called for punishing Russian banks for helping Bashar al-Assad.
      And that means the end of the green candy wrapper. This is the trigger that Putin told Obama that in case of aggression, the BRICS countries will abandon the dollar, and this is a banal death for the United States.
      "World" insanity grows stronger.
      1. screw cutter
        screw cutter 18 September 2013 17: 04 New
        0
        Senator Richard Blumenthal / What to do, last name obliges.
  • Toporkoff
    Toporkoff 18 September 2013 10: 18 New
    +5
    I work in an office with Western capital. So a consultant came to us from the states, I went with him to our grain stores and elevators and showed what was built and how. A man of more than 70 years old, dangles around the states and around the world designs and builds elevators. the believer, having arrived first of all, began to look for where in Russia you can visit the Protestant (or I don’t remember Lutheran anymore) church. a person has 7 children, 20-25 grandchildren (the fact that more than 20 is for sure), how many great-grandchildren I will not tell ... here is the lack of values ​​...
    1. Prorox
      Prorox 18 September 2013 13: 16 New
      0
      Family, faith, work in America, normal people are millions, though there is a big BUT. Permanent wars, humanitarian bombing, secret prisons, comprehensive surveillance, pederasty (recorded in value) and "crown" of exclusivity. When you start comparing, you know the normality disappears as the current one or your consultant lives by two entities, such a republican or democrat (who depends on affiliation, is kind, maybe non-partisan, although they’ve been 70 years old) supporting the so-called "democracy", which is called schizophrenia .
  • tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 18 September 2013 10: 52 New
    +4
    Destruction of the indigenous population, as in the photo with skulls of bison.
    1. vlad.svargin
      vlad.svargin 18 September 2013 16: 05 New
      +1
      tilovaykrisa (3)
      Destruction of the indigenous population, like in the photo with skulls of bison

      By the way, in order to reduce the number of Indians, a prize was announced for the destruction of their food supply — hunting for bisons as well as hunting for scalps. From this photo you can judge the scale of the destruction of the indigenous population of America.
      1. vadimuch
        vadimuch 20 September 2013 12: 37 New
        0
        You’re used to what you don’t need to remember. Bison or wheat? Two hundred turkeys to feed or die cities? Chingachgooks live happily ever after. parks they own the entrance to a good site in the Grand Canyon to a hundred bucks comes.
        If you want to remember something like that about Ainu or Livs, and the Spaniards in Latin America charged natural genocide.
        If you come up with a finger to suck out how they rot there, it’s like in a joke that the smell is so good.
        Normalek they all live cool and will live. Indulge with your views on the Indians-listen and then with all the ruthlessness of internationalism will break as a provocateur.
        So Gaponit is good, but you really need to change everything in your home so that they show cookies.
  • politruk419
    politruk419 18 September 2013 15: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Is it me or Apollon? If to me, then tell me what exactly is the greatness of the USA? Name, though, what can the USA be proud of?

    Opportunity Hubble Bubble? Not..???
    Quote: Egoza
    As one educator who visited the United States said: "Women are all ugly, food is rubber, and children are all." That's what they can be proud of! laughing

    Damn .... remembered !!!!! Angelina Jolie has eight children and all have different colors ......
  • vostok68
    vostok68 18 September 2013 19: 01 New
    0
    They have good chips (very good) !, the rest is not very!
    1. GREAT RUSSIA
      GREAT RUSSIA 18 September 2013 19: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: vostok68
      They have good chips (very good) !, the rest is not very!

      All of their microcircuits are made in China. Here I bring the information, dear Andrei. Probably this information is already in your head or you don’t need it, but I’ll write it down. Understand me correctly, I’m not smart, I just say that America is losing its advantages. More 70% of the US industrial potential is already located in Asia, because there is more cheap power there, and the region is not in danger of economic collapse, besides, Asian countries have no debts of $ 75, which is why Asia is a more promising region for companies than America.
  • Botanologist
    Botanologist 18 September 2013 20: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What exactly is the greatness of the USA? Name, though, what can the USA be proud of?


    Offhand: the collapse of the USSR, the dollar as a world currency, the Internet, microelectronics, and much more. And, of course, production efficiency. Still write, or look at the wiki yourself?
    1. GREAT RUSSIA
      GREAT RUSSIA 18 September 2013 20: 54 New
      0
      they wouldn’t be able to ruin the USSR, it’s us and the USSR that have collapsed. Or did you forget what lines were behind Coca-Cola. Or did you forget the processions on Red Square with the slogan "We are for perestroika," "We are on the path of reform." This is not the West, it was we who destroyed the USSR. They sent a traitor, but it was you and me who let this reptile take power.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 19 September 2013 00: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
        .Or you forgot what queues were behind Coca-Cola. Or you forgot the processions on Red Square with the slogan "We are for perestroika", "We are on the path of reform." This is not the West, it’s us and the Soviet Union that has collapsed.

        You just don’t understand why the USSR fell apart. There were such words in propaganda - perestroika, publicity, acceleration, but there was another word that was not paid attention to - self-sufficiency. The republics and the Warsaw Treaty partners were offered to live on self-sufficiency, as they say means, they did not agree, but no one asked them. Therefore, all of our allies (except the most faithful) hated us for separating from the feeding trough. Even after the collapse of the USSR, some “allies” were re-exporting Russian resources.
  • CTEPX
    CTEPX 18 September 2013 09: 16 New
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    some fagots and warriors, that’s all America.

    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Bend over ...

    Indeed, compare the gendarme with the warrior)).
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 09: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: ctepx
      Indeed, compare the gendarme with the warrior)).

      For those who do not know how to think. I wrote some fagots and wars !!! what do the warriors have to do with it, in the USA I didn’t see anyone except the movie rambo
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 18 September 2013 09: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        , in the USA, besides the movie rambo, I have not seen anyone


        why do Americans give greater preference to non-contact warfare, and because their gut is thin for the conduct of contact warfare.
        1. Manager
          Manager 18 September 2013 11: 00 New
          +4
          Quote: Apollon
          Yes, because their gut is thin to conduct a contact type of war.


          Winners are not judged. (True, they never win))))
          But in general, we are not playing a comp game. If it is possible to destroy the enemy without endangering your soldiers, then this is cool and should be used.
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 18 September 2013 11: 11 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        , some fagots and inиus, that’s all America.


        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        For those who do not know how to think. I wrote some fagots and inйus!

        Great and powerful Russian language, but still between the letter И and the letter Й ("Ivan is short") there is a difference ... wink
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 11: 18 New
          0
          Quote: Corsair
          and yet, there is a difference between the letter I and the letter Y ("short Ivan") ..

          Of course there are, but not many comply with this rule hi
      3. Prorox
        Prorox 18 September 2013 13: 24 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I wrote some fagots and wars !!! what do the warriors have to do with it, in the USA I didn’t see anyone except the movie rambo


        Not when I could not understand the war (and how many) there are, but there are no heroic feats (perseverance, self-sacrifice).
      4. screw cutter
        screw cutter 18 September 2013 17: 08 New
        +1
        Not fagots and not war, but fighting 3,14 races.
      5. CTEPX
        CTEPX 19 September 2013 15: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I wrote some fagots and wars !!!

        A man said - a man did!
        Didn’t - said it again!)).
  • mivmim
    mivmim 18 September 2013 11: 09 New
    +1
    Exactly bends, there are no warriors there either.
  • bif
    bif 18 September 2013 12: 28 New
    0
    To sow grain of doubt in you, I recommend reading how our compatriot lived and worked 2 YEARS in the states. Here you will find all the answers. http://nskcool.narod.ru/zametki_o_amerike.htm
  • 50FEDOT
    50FEDOT 18 September 2013 12: 45 New
    0
    It may be exaggerating, but https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = L0PZIN0lRCU & list = PL6D5BB621748
    EAC30 & feature = player_detailpage
    -worthy carefully, having patience, to see.
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 18 September 2013 14: 44 New
    +3
    Well, why? In their tourist guides, in chapters on a trip to Russia, for many decades they write something like the following - "one should not show a loud burp in public or (I apologize) fart, EVEN IF YOU ARE Proud of them." Wild uncivilized Russians do not organize competitions in restaurants on the topic of who burps louder, and do not welcome such behavior in others ... There is definitely no culture.
  • dmit-xnumx
    dmit-xnumx 19 September 2013 07: 39 New
    0
    Perhaps, he goes too far, but the proverb is: “There will never be a pan out of the boor.” - just a statement of the fact of being the United States.
  • Lockbase170
    Lockbase170 18 September 2013 08: 31 New
    +7
    Plus extensively developing schizophrenia and psychological deviations among citizens .. Idols Batman, Superman, Mickey Mouse .. Coca-Cola is a national drink, a healthy lifestyle consists of jogging after taking a solid hamburger and a serving of french fries .. And other things .. Wild people, ep ..
    1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      NOBODY EXCEPT US 18 September 2013 12: 34 New
      +3
      What city do you live in? We have in VLADIMIR, I hope you know the former capital of the Vladimir-Suzdal principality, so here at the entrance to the city from the capital, the first thing that meets visitors is not a temple or a Kremlin or historical buildings, it’s McDonald's and in the center near the Kremlin it also stands MM and people it’s full there, I’ll say right away Amer’s not there, our mustache ... Wild people ???
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 12: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: NOBODY EXCEPT US
        ... wild people ??? ept

        Wrong, we have no queues for fast food
  • Crocodile
    Crocodile 18 September 2013 08: 40 New
    13
    So ped.i.ki like vampires stings in the ass and automatically fall into their number - without the opportunity to go back!
    The fight is on all fronts!
    Until we learn to snap and save friends, the amers will not calm down ...
    But the Saudis and Qatars have been asking for a long time!
  • predator.3
    predator.3 18 September 2013 08: 45 New
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and warriors, that’s all America.


    Cuisine - hamburger, culture - Hollywood!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 08: 51 New
      +6
      Quote: predator.3
      Hamburger Kitchen

      Is hamburger food?
      Quote: predator.3
      Culture - Hollywood!

      Given that most of the Hollywood stars are former pornstars, I don’t even know which culture it belongs to.
      1. Old skeptic
        Old skeptic 18 September 2013 09: 32 New
        +7
        POPPULTURE? POP is not a culture, but a part of the body.
        (c) mine
        1. alexng
          alexng 18 September 2013 12: 16 New
          0
          Quote: Old Skeptic
          POPPULTURE? POP is not a culture, but a part of the body.


          Let me disagree with you. POP is the abbreviation Traitor of the Ancestral Customs.
          And the word POP itself is offensive to the clergy.
      2. Sergh
        Sergh 18 September 2013 09: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Given that most stars are

        Hello Alexander! Right now, VAF will come and all the navigation and air-to-air, bunters and others we have shit, you and I are watching about release near Chkalada, it’s like our mistake, we’re getting down, and they are in Moscow, well, they’re not happy, well offended. Yeah, and here we plow for a kilo of sausage ...
        Yeah, they smelled goryuchki and are happy, but I know who works and how, but I can’t talk about it.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 10: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: Sergh
          Right now, VAF will come and all the navigation and air-to-air, bunters and others we have shit, you and I are watching about release near Chkalada, it’s like our mistake, we’re getting down, and they are in Moscow, well, they’re not happy, well offended. Yeah, and here we plow for a kilo of sausage

          Hi Seryoga! As I understand it, the morning began with the continuation of the evening laughing
    2. Manager
      Manager 18 September 2013 11: 09 New
      0
      Quote: predator.3
      Cuisine - hamburger, culture - Hollywood!


      I’ll support this.
      Hollywood is really a whole culture. How many masterpieces were born thanks to them? Yes, a bunch. For me, for example, this is Star Wars and the Lord of the Rings and the Predator and the Alien. And much more. How many beautiful cartoons did Disney give us at one time? And the legendary TOI and JERRY? Yes, damn it, Tom and Jerry is the only cartoon where when I was little I was always on the side of the mouse, and now I really feel sorry for the cat !! What about music? It is foolish to say that America has not given us legends in music. I don’t know about you, but I like Metallica and LED ZEPPELIN, and a million other bands that gave birth to rock!

      With regards to hamburgers, well, they are in the opera. For this alone they need to be blown up to 4324241ny! Damn saboteurs))) But at the same time once a month I buy something in the McDuck. I think like most of the inhabitants of Russia.

      So we will not sin, neither the USSR nor Russia made such a contribution to Cinema and Music as the United States. (I mean the contribution to world music and cinema) True, we made the greatest contribution to Literature.

      Conclusion, it is unnecessary to align the US government with ordinary residents. Among them are also a lot of good and talented people.
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 18 September 2013 22: 43 New
        0
        Quote: Manager
        Russia has not made such a contribution to Cinema and Music as the United States. (I mean the contribution

        I beg you !!!!!!!!!!! Music is still Tchaikovsky, Borodin, Mussorgsky, Glinka ......... Yes, and the movie is difficult to compare "The Lord of the Rings" and "Silent Don "or" War and Peace. "Let’s make comparisons of things similar in artistic value, and not bring everything together ............ Yes, and about McDonald’s you got excited, not every thing then he buys there. I would even say that those who are in demand in this institution are much less. Our people respect home cutlets more.
        1. Manager
          Manager 19 September 2013 09: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: Tverichanka
          "The Lord of the Rings" and "Quiet Don" or "War and Peace."


          And what is there to compare? How old is the Pacific Don and how old is the Lord? About 30 years will pass, no one will remember the quiet don, and the ruler will know everything as well as the one who wrote it Tolkien.

          In the provinces, the McDuck may not be respected, but in the capitals there are always lines. So do not need Lala))
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  • Sandov
    Sandov 18 September 2013 09: 28 New
    +3
    This suggests that even if the American president has his own position and will and at the same time tries to conduct it gently and delicately, he will still be squeezed in the most wild way and then presented as an idiot! Wild actions were made with him, and he could not help but be an idiot in this situation: he had no choice. In this sense, our president has a head start.

    I always suspected that there were puppeteers behind the curtains.
  • Essenger
    Essenger 18 September 2013 09: 36 New
    -3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Who ever said that America is a great power ??? There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and warriors, that’s all America.


    I can say that the USA is a great country.
    Their cuisine is varied, something from Italians, something from Mexicans, something from the French, etc.
    Culture? Is the music and film industry not a culture? The whole world listens to them and looks.
    Representatives of non-traditional orientations are everywhere. I’ll tell you a secret, they even exist in Russia)))
    War? Is this a sign that she is a great power?
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 18 September 2013 10: 03 New
      +4
      Let me disagree with you. Was great after the Second World War. And now it’s rotten, it does not bring anything breakthrough, only blood and suffering. It's like a boil on your ass. neither crouch nor lie down, one meal.
  • Mercenary
    Mercenary 18 September 2013 10: 03 New
    +3
    As for the warriors, I strongly doubt, rather, the underdeveloped children of the bandits originally expelled from England.
  • Rusi dolaze
    Rusi dolaze 18 September 2013 10: 29 New
    +3
    I agree! How can they be a great power with such genetics! Let’s remember who went to America - criminals, convicts runaway, scourges of all stripes, but poverty and misery are different. If you want, you don’t want, and ento all now rushing out :)
    Well, about the blacks, and so everything is clear, they would have a basketball for the whole day and they are happy.
    1. Che
      Che 18 September 2013 17: 49 New
      +2
      The scammers printed and brains around the world bought up - this can not be taken away. Therefore, science is still not bad. Politics and ideology neither in n - nor in the red army.
  • teleset
    teleset 18 September 2013 10: 57 New
    +4
    All their value is their dollar, as soon as their treasury bonds cease to be bought, and the dollar ceases to be a reserve currency, this nation of consumption will slide from the first place in the economy to the level of some kind of Honduras. They will not be able to build new aircraft carriers there anymore, but they will cut their aircraft carriers into metal. That current is hardly possible without the 3rd world ...
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 18 September 2013 11: 21 New
    +1
    After the police of this barbarian education, Qatar, beat our ambassador at the airport “on camera,” publicly beat a diplomat from a huge country, I don’t consider Qatar for the country at all. And in response to the possible aggression of Syria by the United States, it would be nice for Russia to deliver a “limited” blow to Qatar. And in principle, the level of "democracy" and the essence of the United States and Qatar are approximately at the same level - barbarians and savages.
    1. Canep
      Canep 20 September 2013 15: 11 New
      0
      It is much easier to find a reason to attack Qatar. Yes, even the same battered diplomat, a hundred years ago this would have been enough to declare war.
  • mejik
    mejik 18 September 2013 12: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What other values, what power. Who ever said that America is a great power ??? There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and wars, that’s all America.

    And still completely idiots in power. Exceptional idiots!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 12: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: mejik

      And still completely idiots in power. Exceptional idiots!

      You got a well-earned minus from the American laughing In his opinion, well-deserved, but in my opinion +
      1. mejik
        mejik 18 September 2013 16: 09 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You got a well-earned minus from the American laughing In his opinion, well-deserved, but in my opinion +

        I myself would also be offended if we had idiots in our power. Yes, they would have trumpeted their exclusivity. I would have minded everyone. laughing No, well, cho ... I understand him tongue
  • bereg
    bereg 18 September 2013 12: 11 New
    0
    I agree that there is no kitchen that fagots but that war is you
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 12: 25 New
      0
      Quote: bereg
      but what war are you

      Yes, how many warriors did the US unleash?
  • Gooch v. 2
    Gooch v. 2 18 September 2013 13: 45 New
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What other values, what power. Who ever said that America is a great power ??? There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and wars, that’s all America.

    You are mistaken, not all of America. :)
    American cuisine is mainly characterized by fast food, hamburgers, cheesecakes, muffins, pizza, popcorn, brownies, turkey, cheeses: cheddar, colby, barbecue, steaks, chips, sandwiches, barbecue, chip cookies - the whole world eats this food, and? Is this not a kitchen?
    Culture: film industry, Hollywood, television, blues, jazz, rap, rock, internet, the world's first mass car, information technology is not a culture? At the moment, it is these factors that determine the lifestyle of all mankind.
    Why do gays and lesbians bother you so much? Yes, and American? For example, they don’t bother me, moreover, the fagots of the Russian bottling do not bother me either, because I, like probably any normal person, nevermind who, where and how, in what places to batter, it doesn’t affect me in any way, so I’m worried There is no need to do this.
    1. yur
      yur 18 September 2013 22: 22 New
      0
      Well, if rap is art, yes, the USA is a great cultural nation.
      1. Gooch v. 2
        Gooch v. 2 19 September 2013 14: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: yur
        Well, if rap is art, yes, the USA is a great cultural nation.

        and then what is art? :) Alla Pugacheva in a duet with Sirloin Kirkorov? Or maybe Nadezhda Babkina in a compartment with Borey Moiseyev is art?
    2. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 18 September 2013 22: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Gooch v. 2
      Is this not a kitchen?

      Of course not! What is there to discuss? At all times, we had tea houses, pies, coffee houses, dumplings .... But besides this, there is also Russian cuisine !!!! Do Americans have it? that's it !!!!
      1. Gooch v. 2
        Gooch v. 2 19 September 2013 14: 55 New
        +3
        Quote: Tverichanka
        Of course not! What is there to discuss? At all times, we had tea houses, pies, coffee houses, dumplings .... But besides this, there is also Russian cuisine !!!! Do Americans have it? that's it !!!!

        Yes, on the territory of Russia, even under the primitive communal system, there were pie, tea, coffee houses and dumplings, and stupid Omerikontsa were wiped with a stone all their lives hanging on a vine. Let's go from one extreme to another :)
      2. vadimuch
        vadimuch 20 September 2013 13: 06 New
        0
        Why are you sunken for food? They are all newcomers there, so everything is in the restaurant, any kitchen. And the local, national identity is very close, from burritos and steaks (by the way dofiga species) to any seafood. They have international cuisine. If every 15 in San Diego is Russian, you think they only eat burgers there and what is Russian, Chinese, Thai dumplings do not know?
        Now we need not be measured in a stupid place, but understand the problems and understand that now we have them alone. And before, they were often alone. The middle of the 19th century, the Japanese war, the first world war, the second world war, etc.
  • DEfindER
    DEfindER 18 September 2013 13: 56 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    There is no national cuisine, no culture

    The national cuisine is McDonald's :), cowboy culture is somewhat similar to the culture of nomads, and is built on the seizure of foreign lands, and the destruction of the indigenous population .. by the way, so far nothing has changed on a global scale. They really had one normal president, Kennedy, who sold the lunar program, perhaps their only great achievement.
    1. Essenger
      Essenger 19 September 2013 14: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: DEfindER
      Ovboy culture is somewhat similar to the culture of nomads, and is built on the seizure of foreign lands, and the destruction of the indigenous population ..


      and when did the nomads seize foreign lands? when did they destroy the indigenous population? maybe vice versa?
      1. Gooch v. 2
        Gooch v. 2 19 September 2013 15: 13 New
        +4
        Quote: Essenger
        The national cuisine is McDonald's :), cowboy culture is somewhat similar to the culture of nomads, and is built on the seizure of foreign lands, and the destruction of the indigenous population .. by the way, so far nothing has changed on a global scale. They really had one normal president, Kennedy, who sold the lunar program, perhaps their only great achievement.

        Nothing has changed at all since that time, a typical aul of the “nomads”, figvahs on the horizon, pastures, rye are clearly visible ...
        Everywhere you step, a brutal nomad cowboy will grow up in such a small settlement, when these stupid Omerikonians kill the entire indigenous population and seize and dirt their lands, they gather and move on, leaving behind them unnecessary skyscrapers, bridges, freeways, railways, and many other testimonies, the bloody dictatorship of nomad cowboys, something like that.



        And yet, for those who are in the tank, the cowboys led a sedentary lifestyle.
        Cowboys worked on ranchers of cattle-farmers and were involved in driving around the ranch territory, repairing fences, finding cows that had fallen off the herd, stigmatizing young animals and many others. At first, the pastures in the West were not fenced and very often the cattle of different owners mixed and grazed together. Therefore, every year we had to produce a corral and livestock division. Participation in such a corral required considerable skill from the cowboy, and it was from the annual corrals that the cowboys favorite pastime, the rodeo, grew.

        Z. Nomads do not lead such a lifestyle and management.
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 20 September 2013 21: 06 New
          +1
          Ameria is an alien world on planet earth. Heartless, greedy, hypocritical.
          America has gone the wrong way, not that.
  • Andrey_K
    Andrey_K 18 September 2013 14: 08 New
    +3
    How is this "no kitchen"?
    What about fast food?
  • sad33
    sad33 18 September 2013 19: 04 New
    0
    this is the answer of a person who apparently lived there repeatedly .....
  • Su24
    Su24 23 September 2013 19: 49 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What other values, what power. Who ever said that America is a great power ??? There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and wars, that’s all America.


    So why write this, tell me? Do you want to collect huskies?
  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 18 September 2013 08: 26 New
    +4
    From the Don.
    Yes! A crown flied from Bambamka! And it turned out, moreover, that the king was naked! And the king was made by an entourage!
    1. Crocodile
      Crocodile 18 September 2013 08: 45 New
      +5
      This is what a person refuses from traditional nutrition leads to!
      Apparently not enough bananas!
  • Sibiryak
    Sibiryak 18 September 2013 08: 27 New
    +3
    America is a slightly greater power than Qatar. Engaging in Qatar to do a stinky job with a gross violation of logic, common sense and international law is ... well, I don’t know ... It still seemed to me that if the Americans did, they would never admit.

    This has been done, on the one hand to play on Obama's patriotism, so to speak, and on the other hand to tie him hand and foot on a forceful solution to the issue. The gray cardinals are not satisfied with Obama, therefore they are indignant!
  • My address
    My address 18 September 2013 08: 28 New
    +5
    Of course, this is a shame for a superpower. And how did they have enough sense to say about the material aid from the Arab monarchies? Indeed, as a healthy uncle on errands at the boy who does not hide his escapation.
    1. Fin
      Fin 18 September 2013 09: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: My address
      And how did they have the wisdom to say about the help from the Arab monarchies?

      Apparently the mind is out there. The Saudis and Qatar blurted out without thinking, the Yankees caught up close. You can do everything without disclosing intentions. If you pedal this topic in the media, you can be accused of mercenarism, willingness to send am. guys to death for money, etc.
    2. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 18 September 2013 11: 48 New
      0
      Quote: My address
      Of course, this is a shame for a superpower. And how did they have enough sense to say about the material aid from the Arab monarchies? Indeed, as a healthy uncle on errands at the boy who does not hide his escapation.


      Everything is simple - the meaning of the existence of the United States and Qatar in money, in profit - is beneficial for both, so you can "lie" under each other - it is profitable! You know this as in Thailand - you can “fuck” any woman you want, and even in the presence of your husband, just pay.
  • Crocodile
    Crocodile 18 September 2013 08: 31 New
    +2
    Our foreign policy is looking good now. And most importantly NOW LOOKS! It is necessary to maintain a position, to develop success. Unfortunately, it is too early to rejoice in the victory - even a cornered mouse can throw itself at the cat, and here the EMPTY states with the EMPTY President! The panic will end - they will come up with something new! It is still not the time for amers to swallow such a pill ...
    1. HAM
      HAM 18 September 2013 09: 01 New
      +4
      Well, about the "lowered" -You are wrong, that’s their ORIENTATION.
  • S-200
    S-200 18 September 2013 08: 32 New
    -4
    Kremlin propagandist ... not always adequate in assessments.
  • treskoed
    treskoed 18 September 2013 08: 36 New
    +4
    But compared to the position of the American president, he is simply the king.

    And the king plays the retinue! And here the problem is in the Russian kingdom! We need to create some kind of filter for high-ranking officials so that they work, rather than become oligarchs, destroying and robbing a subordinate resource!
  • Tersky
    Tersky 18 September 2013 08: 37 New
    +9
    "Engaging for Qatar to do a stinky job with a gross violation of logic, common sense and international law is ... well, I don't know." Where does common sense come from? If the most “democratic" state essentially turned into a political trash. Therefore, they do not stink for their "Jellied" money, they are accustomed to stench and stench.
  • waisson
    waisson 18 September 2013 08: 39 New
    0
    I didn’t read the article; I didn’t read the sayings; the headline infuriated me, I think the amers exaggerate in Qatar in Sartir paper against the background of the Amer flag, Qatar Amer uses for its intended purpose
  • Bigriver
    Bigriver 18 September 2013 08: 51 New
    0
    Plus Leontief.
    He said about everything that I feel and see, and I, too.
    Kerry’s frankness about the Basmachi’s financing of the “Greatest Power of our time” military operation was the “cover” of the summer season.
    This, just pi ... uh! Below, there’s simply nowhere to fall face!
  • krpmlws
    krpmlws 18 September 2013 08: 54 New
    +3
    Many questions. Is the demarche of the Russian Federation a success? Syria is a sovereign state, the United States threatened to strike, the Russian Federation poured and offered to abandon chemical weapons, the amers agreed and forced Syria to agree. Now, we can assume that the United States will again threaten another country and that will take the RF? Will it offer to disarm? Who benefits from it, maybe to amers, not Russia? Maybe the Russian Federation is acting “aggressively” (even introducing old BOD, BDK and tugboats into the Mediterranean Sea), with the rhetoric of international law and national interests, but in reality it’s in line with the interests of the United States, like a good and a bad guy? Maybe it was necessary to act in line with the Russian agreement with Syria from 80g on mutual assistance and not make unacceptable concessions with the United States?
    1. a52333
      a52333 18 September 2013 09: 07 New
      0
      Have you watched Assad’s interview? The destruction of chemistry will occur with a LOT of reservations, incl. and the destruction of Israeli chemistry. He is not so simple!
      1. krpmlws
        krpmlws 18 September 2013 09: 11 New
        +6
        I didn’t look. Israel has nuclear weapons, therefore, it seems to me that the refusal of Syria and Israel from chemical weapons will not have equal consequences in terms of the balance of forces. The main thing is that disarmament itself is carried out under armed pressure - this is a dangerous precedent.
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 18 September 2013 14: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: krpmlws
          I didn’t look. Israel has nuclear weapons, therefore, it seems to me that the refusal of Syria and Israel from chemical weapons will not have equal consequences in terms of the balance of forces. The main thing is that disarmament itself is carried out under armed pressure - this is a dangerous precedent.

          The Israeli army, and without nuclear weapons, is much stronger than the Syrian army, and chemical weapons are a threat to the civilian population of Israel, which they have now agreed to remove.
          1. DEfindER
            DEfindER 18 September 2013 14: 55 New
            0
            Quote: Semurg
            The Israeli army, and without nuclear weapons, is much stronger than the Syrian army, and chemical weapons are a threat to the civilian population of Israel, which they have now agreed to remove.

            Moreover, in this alignment of forces, the Syrian chemical weapon was a deterrent to Israel, and now without it, Israel may not be afraid to start a major war in the BV, which is what it needs, because he is not afraid of chaos and monkeys with machine guns, but of economically strong secular states around him.
            1. Semurg
              Semurg 18 September 2013 20: 56 New
              0
              Yes, Israel was not afraid of Syria even with a chem. a weapon even without it. The only thing Israel is afraid of is to remain without the Amer’s roof and unite all the Arabs against it, and individually, it surpasses all its neighbors by multiple.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 19 September 2013 00: 36 New
                0
                Quote: Semurg
                and individually, he surpasses all his neighbors by multiple.

                It’s just a lie, Turkey, Iran and Egypt each individually surpasses Israel by many times, without military, economic and other US assistance (including demographic), Jews will be killed quickly.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 19 September 2013 00: 47 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Setrac
                  Turkey, Iran and Egypt each individually surpasses Israel multiple times, without military, economic and other US assistance (including demographic), Jews will be killed quickly.


                  Egypt today - no ...
                  Which, in principle, fits into the outline of the theory of controlled chaos (honest democratic elections ordered?).
                2. Semurg
                  Semurg 19 September 2013 09: 59 New
                  +3
                  Of these countries, only Egypt is adjacent to the Jews. And Turkey and Iran are not neighbors or Arabs. Egypt has fought so many times and lost the war and I don’t think that something has changed dramatically. By the way, it fought not only but with the support of the Arab countries and the union.
              2. DEfindER
                DEfindER 20 September 2013 12: 58 New
                0
                Quote: Semurg
                Yes, Israel was not afraid of Syria even with a chem. weapons even without him.

                That's right, he is not afraid of Syria itself, because it is a peaceful state. He was afraid of himself that having unleashed an all-out war, he would have to pay for this with a chemical attack .. Israel equips Syria and Iran combined in quality and numerically, so the only thing he is afraid of is WMD, and threatening to destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities, he’s like a frightened beast is very dangerous .
                1. Essenger
                  Essenger 20 September 2013 13: 08 New
                  +2
                  Quote: DEfindER
                  Israel outfits qualitatively and numerically superior to Syria and Iran combined, so the only thing he is afraid of is WMD


                  WMD is not only nuclear weapons, but also chemical and bacteriological weapons. WEAPONS WHICH MASS INSPECT PEOPLE.
      2. Semurg
        Semurg 18 September 2013 14: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: a52333
        Have you watched Assad’s interview? The destruction of chemistry will occur with a LOT of reservations, incl. and the destruction of Israeli chemistry. He is not so simple!

        If Assad starts to poke around very much he will again begin to threaten to bomb, you can’t catch the word not a sparrow. You only got time to defeat the armed opposition, but the chem. any weapon will be removed.
  • sha20289145
    sha20289145 18 September 2013 08: 55 New
    +1
    Perhaps he has a fear of being a weakling. Political style is being violated. He wants but cannot because of the enormous confrontation. The question is delicate and the installation is made on the "red thread". Now, apparently, it is worth considering how to "let the brakes down" to the end of the term and with dignity to leave.
  • eplewke
    eplewke 18 September 2013 08: 57 New
    +1
    Well, yes ... America is a master at provocation. They can easily kill thousands of Turks or Israelis (thousands of them and their citizens are not sorry), the prestige of the country would not have fallen ... Nah, al-Qaeda is not the same terrorists yet - it's a bunch of boys with stones and sticks compared to the US government, where are the real terrorists !!!
  • Igarr
    Igarr 18 September 2013 08: 59 New
    +8
    It is free of you, brothers, to make fun of yourself.
    Well, let the United States have nothing - no kitchen, no brains, no self-esteem.
    But they have ... an established machine. For playing war games.
    What they constantly use.
    Our leadership .. normal, adequate people .. afraid to allow weapons to wear.
    And here - the whole state of the abnormal - is armed to the teeth.
    .
    Psycho taken isolate.
    And here - 250 million under the control of PSYCHOV.
    It is fraught, I would say.
    ..
    A week ago he spoke out - I'm afraid of new provocations against Syria.
    Well, experts confirm my fears.
  • Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 18 September 2013 09: 00 New
    +3
    Balts - prostitutes of the USA, USA - prostitute of Qatar, Qatar - ??? wassat
    1. HAM
      HAM 18 September 2013 09: 06 New
      +3
      Qatar Papa Carlo, with a golden key.
      1. My address
        My address 18 September 2013 09: 17 New
        +3
        Key in the pants?
    2. Igarr
      Igarr 18 September 2013 09: 07 New
      +5
      And Qatar is a "mother"!
      Bandera.
      Huh ...
      Very symbolic.
      Especially considering their religion. (I’m talking about Qatar. And not about Islam.)
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 18 September 2013 12: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Igarr
        I’m talking about Qatar. And not about Islam.

        Is there Islam? There God is money covered by Islam. Igor hi !
    3. alexng
      alexng 18 September 2013 12: 36 New
      -1
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      Balts - prostitutes of the USA, USA - prostitute of Qatar, Qatar - ???


      QATAR (from the Greek. Katarreo - flowing down), catarrhal inflammation, - inflammation of the fused membranes, accompanied by their redness, swelling, formation and excretion of fluid. Panoca probably.
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 18 September 2013 09: 01 New
    +5
    I fucked up amers. It’s nice to read, but is it all true? The Saxons still have a lot of tricks in their pocket, I have no doubt.
  • Stiletto
    Stiletto 18 September 2013 09: 06 New
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What other values, what power. Who ever said that America is a great power ??? There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and warriors, that’s all America.


    Militant queers are creepy. The main thing to do with this is not to turn your back on the battle, and, of course, not to surrender as a prisoner. And do not take it.
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 18 September 2013 09: 12 New
      +4
      Damn, I imagined ... how to fight with them.
      It’s not customary to shoot in the back somehow.
      You sweat while you run around such a circle. To at least shoot in the chest.
      Problem ....
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 18 September 2013 23: 12 New
        0
        [quote = igarr] you get fun while running around
        Yes, no problem, just shout after “Where are you going, active?” He will certainly turn to face you. Well, and you ... yeah, he’s right in the forehead.
  • Bekas
    Bekas 18 September 2013 09: 20 New
    +8
    Quote: krpmlws
    Maybe the Russian Federation is acting “aggressively” (even after introducing old BOD, BDK and tugboats into the Mediterranean Sea), with the rhetoric of international law and national interests, but in reality it is in line with the interests of the United States, like a good and bad guy?


    How do you like this news? Maybe a duck, maybe not.
    http://oko-planet.su/politik/politiklist/210264-pravda-o-voennoy-konfrontacii-ss
    ha-i-rossii.html
    Briefly for those who are too lazy to read:
    The two ballistic missiles allegedly launched recently by Israel to test their missile defense were actually American. And both of them were shot down by Russian anti-ballistic missiles. In order to avoid embarrassment, the United States asked Israel to take over these launches. And America in a telephone conversation clearly said: "a blow to Syria is equivalent to a blow to Moscow." And after that, Lavrov’s rescue plan appeared. Coincidence???
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 18 September 2013 09: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: bekas
      The two ballistic missiles allegedly launched recently by Israel to test their missile defense were actually American. And both of them were shot down by Russian missiles

      Here a muddy story while everyone is silent. Maybe Israel is developing its weapons with the help of amers. The professor with Pupyrchaty can explain the situation.
      1. ty60
        ty60 18 September 2013 10: 03 New
        -1
        continue in the same vein. statistics will answer cooler than diplomats
      2. wax
        wax 18 September 2013 11: 55 New
        0
        The citation of the source is incorrect. The following is true:
        were spotted by Russian radars and collided with the defense systems of Russia - so one of them exploded in the air, and the second course was diverted towards the sea ”
        those. we are talking about a different effect that caused self-destruction in one missile, and a deviation from the course in the second. It follows simultaneously that these were not ballistic targets.
        In any case, one can only laugh at the explanation of the incident by Israel.
    2. krpmlws
      krpmlws 18 September 2013 09: 39 New
      +3
      I think a duck. Why did the amers launch only two missiles? Check Moscow’s reaction, they’ve probably not amer’s traditions. Even if Moscow set a goal to shoot down what would bring down the old BPCs and BDKs in the Mediterranean Sea. We would like the amers to strike at Syria, the blow would be massive.
    3. andrei332809
      andrei332809 18 September 2013 11: 15 New
      0
      Quote: bekas
      How do you like this news

      I think they wishful thinking. as there in the article “on the source of information ...”, “as it was said ...” ... and for some reason, “unifying” were among the Arabs in the first place. centuries with 15 all Arab intelligence is British.
  • netMolotov
    netMolotov 18 September 2013 09: 20 New
    +5
    "America is a slightly greater power than Qatar!"


    90 PERCENT ARTICLES ON THIS SITE ARE DEDICATED TO THE OPPOSITION OF RUSSIA AND WHAT IS THE STATE OF THE QATAR LEVEL? . PLEASE DO NOT INSERT ME HERE TO RUSSIA. PLEASE THE STATE OF THE STATE IS DETERMINED Besides OTHER FACTORS AND THE SIZE OF ITS ENEMIES. And THEN YOU CAN THINK THE DAMN THAT.

    PS If someone does not understand then this is a joke.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 18 September 2013 13: 03 New
      0
      Quote: netMolotov
      THE SIZE OF HIS ENEMIES

      and we always had one enemy - world capital. just different hands held him. and then ...
  • DIMAS
    DIMAS 18 September 2013 09: 21 New
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What other values, what power. Who ever said that America is a great power ??? There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and warriors, that’s all America.

    clarification: fagot warriors (almost combat pid ... sy)
  • j iz sibiri
    j iz sibiri 18 September 2013 09: 33 New
    +2
    to cheat business is not tricky
    but to look at yourself is completely different
  • Belogor
    Belogor 18 September 2013 09: 46 New
    +1
    I agree with the author. There is nothing to add, as I don’t want to write crackling loud phrases, like some, which are very advanced in this.
  • S-200
    S-200 18 September 2013 09: 55 New
    +2
    Quote: treskoed
    ! We need to create some kind of filter for high-ranking officials so that they work, rather than become oligarchs, destroying and robbing a subordinate resource!

    This "filter" was invented for a long time ... corruption is cured by lead in the scruff of the neck. Harsh?
    And what is more expensive for the country ... 200 demonstrative executions or years of indicative corruption immorally affecting society? The search for a presidential national idea should be based on the trust of society - the authorities ... and if your (presidential) environment consists of an oligarchy and blyadnov ministers with their thief’s harem ... WHAT can you talk about power trust (and the ideas put forward by you)? The Russian people, at the turning points of history, rarely forgive their rulers softness and tolerance ...
  • Alexandr73
    Alexandr73 18 September 2013 09: 59 New
    +3
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    And if you touch on such a painful topic as micro electronics? Pharmacology?

    I can say one thing about pharmacology. Nobody has come up with anything new (EXACTLY NEW, but not Improved). Most drugs are slightly modified our cheap drugs, which are sold for crazy money due to strong advertising. But there is no difference. What aspirin for 3 cents, what aspirin oops for 300 rubles.
  • Double major
    Double major 18 September 2013 09: 59 New
    +5
    For a long time already the USA is not a great country. He lives with a printing press and import of brains, and then these brains cannot be used properly. But the status of a nuclear power, and the large, stupid, but well-equipped army scattered all over the world, make them reckon with, at least for all the defects of their economy, political system, mental level of politicians and others, etc. ... We just started return to those orbits that they did not leave. It’s too early to relax, and there is still something to work on, so that success does not become episodes, but the norm ... But, in any case, with initiative, gentlemen!
  • ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 18 September 2013 10: 00 New
    +1
    In the present world order there are no Great Powers. Presidents carry out the will of world financial elites who have real power. Moneybags now need cheap Qatari gas in Europe, but Assad is in the way
  • Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 18 September 2013 10: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: predator.3
    Cuisine - hamburger, culture - Hollywood!

    Fast food cuisine, Hollywood movies, it's better to rhyme, almost a slogan !!! hi
  • Vadim-Skeptic
    Vadim-Skeptic 18 September 2013 10: 20 New
    -3
    Really. They attacked the USA like a jackal. Yes, the states in the situation with Syria may have made the wrong decision, underestimated the situation, but we do not know the tasks and results achieved. Moreover, I believe that the states are a great power - to exist at the expense of the rest of the world and make this world think that it is so right - this cannot be taken from them.
    Russia ... Who is to blame for the collapse of the Soviet Union? States or traitors nurtured in Soviet society? Who is to blame for the collapse of the Russian Empire? England or the weak-willed emperor Nikolai Romanov, together with traitor noblemen who are tasting French rolls? Who is to blame for the feudal fragmentation of Russia? Tatar-Mongol yoke or "great" princes, taking care of themselves more than a united Russia? What then is the greatness of Russia? In past victories over your indifference, laziness, ignorance, obscurantism and stupidity, greed and lust? You cannot live in past victories. A society existing in the past does not move into the future, and therefore does not live. Because movement is life. Moreover, past victories were not made by us.
    1. Fin
      Fin 18 September 2013 11: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
      What then is the greatness of Russia? In past victories over your indifference, laziness, ignorance, obscurantism and stupidity, greed and lust? You cannot live in past victories. A society existing in the past does not move into the future, and therefore does not live. Because movement is life. Moreover, past victories were not made by us.

      Do you think that completely different people live outside the Russian Federation: working, enlightened, smart, giving out surpluses to the poor, and lust is unknown to them?
      Much can be said about greatness, for example, V. Klyuchevsky:
      “One of the hallmarks of a great nation is its ability to rise to its feet after a fall. No matter how hard his humiliation was, but the class hour will come, he will gather his confused moral strength and embody them in one great man or in several great people, who will lead him to the temporarily straight historical road that he left ”. Think at your leisure.
      And despite temporary setbacks and problems, to the chatter of some comrades about the fact that we’ll all rise.
    2. Ossetian.
      Ossetian. 18 September 2013 17: 07 New
      +3
      If you knew the greatness of Russia ... uh-eh, you didn’t instill in you love for the Motherland !!!
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 18 September 2013 10: 22 New
    +2
    America is a slightly greater power than Qatar. Engaging in Qatar to do a stinky job with a gross violation of logic, common sense and international law is ... well, I don’t know ... It still seemed to me that if the Americans did, they would never admit.

    This, of course, is too emotional. After all, we are talking about one situation, which, moreover, is still far from being resolved.
    And so.
    The law of the jungle - whoever is stronger is right, and who has not canceled. In our jungle, the USA with the satellites is obviously the strongest.
  • tennis
    tennis 18 September 2013 10: 36 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What other values, what power. Who ever said that America is a great power ??? There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and warriors, that’s all America.


    It is not clear - war or warrior? If it’s war, then yes. If warriors, so what kind of warriors are they? One of these was released from the Vietnamese pit - he still cannot recover. One hundred against one, so that air support was in the same proportions - here they are warriors, but only under such conditions and nothing else.
  • Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 18 September 2013 10: 38 New
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    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    There is no national cuisine, no culture, only fagots and warriors, that’s all America.

    About the warriors do not agree. Not really warriors from amers. Gouging with a huge margin any small country, this is amer's strength.
  • Lockbase170
    Lockbase170 18 September 2013 10: 44 New
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    Leontyev is a pompous turkey posing as an expert .. A horse is dancing .. I know him personally .. In the bathhouse he says the opposite .. Kommersant .. Skliz- he's nobody!
    1. Glory333
      Glory333 18 September 2013 18: 37 New
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      I personally know Leontyev too, we took girls more than once and steamed in a bathhouse :)
      So he gets drunk there all the time and starts scolding America - he says the same thing in his programs, so don’t lie :)
  • Lockbase170
    Lockbase170 18 September 2013 10: 46 New
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    As Vladimir Semenovich said, there are few real violent people, and there are no leaders! ;)
  • slacker
    slacker 18 September 2013 10: 59 New
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    “America is a slightly greater power than Qatar”


    For all my dislike of America, I would refrain from such headlines. From them carries hatred, and this is clearly premature.
  • Lockbase170
    Lockbase170 18 September 2013 11: 05 New
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    I ask the moderators to delete the article due to the fact that Leontiev is still the kindle ... He himself was noticed in fornication, hai and seduction .. Not authority! Please remove! "Ball, you!"
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 18 September 2013 11: 06 New
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    I don’t believe Leontiev either. The eye is cunning concrete weather vane. It sings sweetly and convincingly (and the stone itself keeps in the bosom)
    1. Lockbase170
      Lockbase170 18 September 2013 11: 21 New
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      Summarizing: bugger
  • Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 18 September 2013 11: 08 New
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    Our foreign policy now looks brilliant, although it is judged by the final result, and the result is very doubtful in the future.

    I agree. And I really do not like that they want to disarm Syria from chemical weapons (a nuclear bomb for the poor). Even linking with Israel’s chemical weapons is not enough, as Israel has another 200 nuclear warheads. And most of all I do not like that our leadership will participate in the disarmament of Syria.
    1. Fin
      Fin 18 September 2013 11: 17 New
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      Quote: Sergey Medvedev
      And I really do not like that they want to disarm Syria from chemical weapons (a nuclear bomb for the poor).

      The use of XO is the path to the abyss. No one will help here. It is better to get rid of it than to keep it and give rise to the Anglo-Saxons.
  • andruha70
    andruha70 18 September 2013 11: 14 New
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    America is a slightly greater power than Qatar
    that is not the name of the article is a joke. lol this makes me happy.
  • Lockbase170
    Lockbase170 18 September 2013 11: 23 New
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    Thanks to the moderators and administrators for making such a filtering system for posts .. It works!
  • IGS
    IGS 18 September 2013 11: 30 New
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    I read the forum ... damn it, everyone mixed: personal, global, Eggs, Qatar, (I wasn’t mistaken, Eggs are EGGS !, and Qatar .. come up with it yourself), oligarchs, and even everything with reverence, business tone and obscenities. .. You all read in the morning ... p..ts. The United States at this point in time is our opponent! Is anyone against this statement? Justify. From this we must proceed. Take into account its positive aspects and use the negative ones. I went to work, and you sit and think smile
    PS And, in general, got these "exceptional"!
    1. IGS
      IGS 18 September 2013 12: 01 New
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      I wrote a complaint to Roskomnadzor against a group of "in contact" bearded "fighters for democracy" in Syria, damn it refused ... I won’t spread everything
      The Office is not empowered to bring to criminal, administrative, civil law and other responsibility for the distribution of materials contributing to the aggravation of interethnic relations through sites not registered as media. Consideration of these issues is the responsibility of law enforcement and judicial authorities of the Russian Federation.
      Due to the fact that this site is not registered as a mass media, the norms of the legislation of the Russian Federation on mass media do not apply to it, and the Office is not authorized to carry out supervisory measures regarding this network resource.
      At the same time, measures are currently being applied to limit the spread of extremist materials, as provided for by the Federal Law of July 25.07.2002, 114 No. XNUMX-ФЗ On Countering Extremist Activities.
      In accordance with Art. 13 of the aforementioned federal law, the recognition of information material as extremist is carried out after the relevant court decision has entered into legal force on the basis of the submission of the prosecutor or in the proceedings in the relevant case of an administrative offense, civil or criminal case.
      Based on the foregoing, in the future, when identifying this kind of information on sites that are not registered as mass media, we recommend that you contact the law enforcement authorities to conduct, if there is reason, verification measures within the framework of the authority granted to them.
      In addition, we inform that the list of registered media names can be found on the official website of Roskomnadzor http://rkn.gov.ru in the section "Mass Communications" / "Registers".

      Deputy Head I.N. Pavlova
      Well, what's the use of them? Once they can’t block ???
      Anyone have any suggestions? Effective! the web address of this adder ... http://vk.com/freesyrianarmy
      1. domovoi
        domovoi 18 September 2013 14: 15 New
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        do not be naive:) ban ... there are thousands of them on the network. in, for example, - http://vk.com/westernclub, http://vk.com/dno_volga, http://vk.com/club_pnr and thousands of others
        1. IGS
          IGS 18 September 2013 16: 10 New
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          You know ... and we, too, are not a few, instead of writing about global problems and how to solve them, I'd rather spend 15 minutes and write to the office. website complaint. And then they will use it in silence. They are not silent. I spent 20 minutes writing to Roskomnadzor (most of it to register) and in the evening I will spend some more time. And if I, at least a little, waste my nerves, it’s not bad. Thanks for the address, I’ll include them today in the “declare” laughing With them you will become a prankster.wassat
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 18 September 2013 11: 35 New
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    Quote: It seems that Obama is frightened to disgrace.
    Maybe the life in front of him is the shadow of John F. Kennedy, who was removed when he began to pursue an independent policy. Well, indeed, on lies and falsifications on provocations, an intelligible political line is impossible to build. The world community is not as naive as it seems to the Americans. Their rough work in Syria seems plausible only to US satellites: Britain and France. So, the American president now has a hard time: you need to compose new fables, becoming an unsuccessful character in world politics.
  • vadimuch
    vadimuch 18 September 2013 12: 06 New
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    Thank you Michael article is timely. The appearance of the article is important because you finally showed that "the tail twists the dog." Since the absolutely empty President Bush came to power, all world tasks and problems have not been resolved at all in the White House. It is important that the widespread victory of pseudo-liberalism led to the actual political and economic collapse of the strongest states of the world, well, except that China and India hold on, which is easily explained - liberalism cannot be instilled in their worldview. But we, the Americans and Europeans, were fully instilled.
    In fact, as always, behind all the problems is only the global economy controlled by world speculative clans. The mess and warfare bring the greatest profits to air traders and pseudo-liberalism is their basis. Until then, insanely overweight "investors" make crazy money on market fluctuations, the "ideological tails" they hire will twist everyone in the world.
  • amp
    amp 18 September 2013 12: 09 New
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    In recent decades, the American president has always been influenced by various lobbies. The oil lobby, the military industrial complex lobby, the Israeli lobby, special services and the like. These groups of influence really rule the United States, despite the fact that they are not connected with a specific political party, they have people in both. What we see now is a natural result of the intra-elite conflict in the USA. Any US president would behave in much the same way as Obama. The military-industrial complex and perhaps the Jews want war, the Fed apparently does not. Do not forget that in a month the congress will solve the issue of raising the ceiling of the public debt. Everything is much more complicated than it seems to Leontiev.
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 18 September 2013 12: 37 New
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      Quote: amp
      In recent decades, the American president has always been influenced by various lobbies. The oil lobby, the military industrial complex lobby, the Israeli lobby, special services and the like. These influence groups really rule the United States, despite the fact that they are not associated with a specific political party., etc.

      But why?
      The features of "elephants" and "donkeys" are widely known. The first - Republicans, unite in the Congress of industrialists and the military-industrial complex. The second is the Democrats, this is a party of traders and financiers.
      But, there is a split in opinion on Syria, IMHO, not along the borders of parties, but inside them.
      A thorough analysis of who - for which by name would be interesting. But probably it's fantastic.
      However, observing the alignment of our foreign policy line, I think that we have people who counted everyone and counted everything smile
      1. amp
        amp 18 September 2013 12: 56 New
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        A thorough analysis of who - for which by name would be interesting.

        As an option: the oil industry, the military-industrial complex and the Jews for the war.

        The first is because if the oil price rises, in the first place, income growth in the second, it will be easier to obtain a permit for oil production using the fracking method, which faces some resistance from environmentalists.

        Second, of course, they always benefit from war.
        Others seem to believe that it is better to have Syria in chaos than pro-Iranian Syria. Israel will protect the iron dome from terrorist missiles. Or maybe Israel has far-reaching plans for Syria ....

        In terms of name, you just need to find out who is lobbying for these groups of influence. MIC is probably McCain.
        1. Bigriver
          Bigriver 18 September 2013 13: 09 New
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          Quote: amp
          ... As an option: the oil workers, the military-industrial complex and the Jews for the war.
          In terms of name, you just need to find out who is lobbying for these groups of influence. MIC is probably McCain.

          Hmm .. but found winked От 11.09.2013
          "... leader Republican Minority Senate Mitch McConnell said US President Barack Obama’s proposal for a military operation "is contrary to any strategy to end the Syrian civil war."

          Well and further that leaders of "elephants" will vote "against". And is McCain a Republican, therefore, a “for”?
          http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1532620/
          1. amp
            amp 18 September 2013 13: 47 New
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            McCain for the ground operation.
        2. vadimuch
          vadimuch 18 September 2013 13: 32 New
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          It’s a lie, a colleague, the general chaos will ruin exports to oil industry workers and can lead to rationing, the military industrial complex is being cut down, but Yugoslavia will not be enough to fire rockets and then the army will start to devour the military budget and not the military industrial complex, again not to the cashier, and it’s generally not profitable for the Jews to fall into a general dump with the strengthening of the Saudis -You can jump to the point that hezbollah will have to be supported. It’s not the same, but the mother-war is dear to speculators. Thousands of percent can be done on any instability. Moreover, the size of this air (not backed up by aroma) money is so large that the world economy will crack soon. Well, here the war game is even better, you can write off everything under the guise.
          1. amp
            amp 18 September 2013 13: 52 New
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            The American oil industry has a huge domestic market while domestic production. (Texas, Gulf of Mexico, Alaska, etc.). The United States as a country generally takes 3rd place in the world in oil production.

            As for speculators, it is quite possible. It is no coincidence that the aggravation around Syria almost coincided with the appointment of the new head of the Fed, and there will soon be hearings in the congress on raising the public debt. Judging by who was appointed to the leadership of the Fed, the debt will increase.
  • NOBODY EXCEPT US
    NOBODY EXCEPT US 18 September 2013 12: 39 New
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    And as one person said, "God created us equal and do not have to put ourselves above other nations, this is not good ......... yes this person is Putin (from an appeal to amers) Dear gentlemen, faithful Putiners do not boast that you Ivana do not remember kinship, respect others ....
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 September 2013 12: 49 New
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      Quote: NOBODY EXCEPT US
      ) Duck, gentlemen, the faithful Putiners do not boast that you Ivana do not remember kinship, respect others ....

      Whom to respect - USA? And in ZhO ** Obama does not kiss negative
    2. Bigriver
      Bigriver 18 September 2013 13: 13 New
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      Quote: NOBODY EXCEPT US
      ... Duck, gentlemen, the faithful Putiners do not boast that you Ivana do not remember kinship, respect others ....

      Duc, what did you want to say?
      What do Russian citizens who respect the President, their coat of arms and flag necessarily have as a sign of ignorance of their kinship?
      I know the exact sign laughing
      Man's stupidity is always accompanied by his desire to hang labels on obscure phenomena and people.
    3. Manager
      Manager 18 September 2013 17: 09 New
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      Quote: NOBODY EXCEPT US
      do not boast that you Ivana do not remember kinship, respect others ....


      For ordinary Americans, I am very good. Many on the site simply did not communicate and did not see much. For example, I live saw a city destroyed by a tornado, as the whole district helped each other. How quickly firefighters and ambulances arrived. How people shared their last meal with strangers. Who cares, I have photos from that day.

      It’s also no secret that the people rallied with them after September 11th. Many sacrificed their health and lives for help and salvation. Therefore, I also admit that it’s not very pleasant when everyone is rowed under one comb.
      I am against the US government and its policies. I am against their army of scumbags. But ordinary people, they often turn out to be more soulful even than ours. It is with us that most likely all became wolves to each other. So before you look for baby in someone else's eye, you need to get a log from your own.
      People everywhere are both good and bad.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 18 September 2013 13: 16 New
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    the United States can and disrespect, they do not care, but after the USSR they are really the first in the world, even though they are stupid but in the 80s and 90s many of us envied the standard of living, many left for the states and still live there without complaining. We still have a lot to reach at least the level of armament, to increase our armor as quickly as possible, so you can not underestimate them
  • Misantrop
    Misantrop 18 September 2013 13: 26 New
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    Quote: soldier's grandson
    many left for the states and still live there without complaining.
    I know that. He served in the Crimean MRA, pilot. He left for the USA, lived there for a long time, even managed to obtain American citizenship and was very proud of it. And ... it's already 4 years since I returned to Sevastopol. Back in the USA, now he cannot be driven out with logs, although he does not tell why exactly ... what

    But two acquaintances of a girl in the United States took root and are not going back. True, they emigrated to Israel at first, only in the USA later wink
  • vadimuch
    vadimuch 18 September 2013 13: 55 New
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    Well there, but not everyone likes it. It seemed to me not interesting there.
    But quite rightly, this is a huge machine, the most powerful in the world. It's just that she is strong like any other when she let her fight for the truth. And lately there is no truth there and interests of others.
    And I already wrote interests only pseudo-liberal, paid by speculators.
    The military-industrial complex is not profitable, since it is better to do new things than to make up for damages, and even if it is very smoky, the whole budget will begin to eat the army.
    Oil workers can also run into quotas, regulation and other problems.
    Jews, too, may lose control of the situation; strengthening Saudis is nowhere more dangerous for them.
  • Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 18 September 2013 14: 11 New
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    "... Wild actions were made with him (Obama), and he could not help being an idiot in this situation: he had no choice ...." It seems that Obama will pay for his indecision with his life (they will shoot him) and this will be the last president of the United States. And then 3-I World War. The USA, as a state, will cease to exist. There will be no America and to hell with it! Europe will suffocate from the chemical weapons used against it. And also to hell with her. And America and Europe will deserve this for their inhumanity!
    1. Gooch v. 2
      Gooch v. 2 18 September 2013 14: 50 New
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      Quote: Алексей_К
      "... Wild actions were made with him (Obama), and he could not help being an idiot in this situation: he had no choice ...." It seems that Obama will pay for his indecision with his life (they will shoot him) and this will be the last president of the United States. And then 3-I World War. The USA, as a state, will cease to exist. There will be no America and to hell with it! Europe will suffocate from the chemical weapons used against it. And also to hell with her. And America and Europe will deserve this for their inhumanity!
  • serg.
    serg. 555 18 September 2013 15: 08 New
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    The nation where the hero of Mickey is Mouse. Horror. Mouse, rat, why are they. Cat-cat, another thing
    1. Gooch v. 2
      Gooch v. 2 18 September 2013 15: 09 New
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      Quote: serg.555
      The nation where the hero of Mickey is Mouse. Horror. Mouse, rat, why are they. Cat-cat, another thing

      ohh where you bore you)
  • serge
    serge 18 September 2013 15: 20 New
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    Gooch v. 2
    American cuisine is characterized by ... hamburgers ... pizza ... cheeses ....
    Culture: the film industry ... the world's first mass car; is information technology not a culture?
    ---------------
    Hamburgers - from Germany (Hamburg), pizza from Italy, non-United States turkey invented, cheeses and even more so. So across the entire list. Cinema is not an American invention; there were such Lumiere brothers.
    Here are mass technologies - the conveyor, mass brainwashing in the USA was invented. But you won’t call it culture ... Where did you invent the protection of the rights of perverts? Also in the USA? Wow, this is also, probably, culture (just don’t talk about protecting the rights of minorities, it has never been in the USA, the example of the Indian genocide is very bright). The United States is an anticulture, which denies everything light in the history of mankind. Moreover, according to the old definition of the leader of anti-culture and, accordingly, the ideological mastermind of the current United States as “a liar and father of lies from beginning to end,” the pi (n) Dos anti-system acts under the slogans of freedom and “democracy”. George Orwell gave a classic description of the Anglo-American anti-system that was still only slightly manifesting at that time: “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is power.” America is New Carthage. America is an anti-culture. Carthago delenda est.
    1. smiths xnumx
      smiths xnumx 18 September 2013 15: 24 New
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      Two worlds, two childhoods: American school in 1957 and 2012 in eight scenarios (Galland, David)
      1 script:
      Before class began, Jack went hunting for ducks and drove into the schoolyard with a shotgun, which he put prominently in his truck.
      1957 - The deputy principal of the school approaches the car to look at Jack's shotgun, and then he goes to his car and takes out his shotgun to show Jack.
      2012 - The school is immediately evacuated, the FBI is called, Jack is dragged to prison and he will never see his truck again or his shotgun. Psychologists are called in for injured teachers and students.
      2 script:
      Johnny and Mark fight on their fists after class.
      1957 - The crowd gathers. Mark won. Johnny and Mark shake hands and become friends.
      2012 - The police are called and special forces arrive - they take Mark and Johnny into custody. They are both charged with assault and driven out of school, although Johnny started it all.
      3 script:
      Geoffrey behaves badly in the classroom and bothers other students.
      1957 - Geoffrey is taken to the director’s office, where he gives him a bashing. Then he returns to the classroom, sits quietly and no longer bothers anyone.
      2012 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin (sedative). He turns into a zombie. He then passes a test for attention deficit disorder. His family receives state benefits because Geoffrey is disabled.
      4 script:
      Billy breaks the glass in a neighbor's car and his dad sets him a belt.
      1957 - The next time Billy behaves more accurately, grows normal, graduates from college, and becomes a successful businessman.
      2012 - Papa Billy is arrested for child abuse. Billy is a shelter and becomes a member of the gang. Sister Billy tells the state psychologist that she remembers that she was also mistreated and their dad goes to jail. Mom Billy has an affair with a psychologist.
      5 script:
      Mark has a headache, and he takes aspirin with him to school.
      1957 - Mark shares aspirin with the director at the smoking area.
      2012 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug trafficking. Police search his car for drugs and weapons.
      6 script:
      Pedro gets a deuce in English.
      1957 - Pedro goes to study at a summer school, takes English and goes to college.
      2012 - The state authorities take on the cause of protecting Pedro. Newspaper articles across the country explain that compulsory English for graduation is racism. Human Rights Defenders (ACLUs) are suing the state school system and an English teacher who has taught Pedro. English is excluded from the list of compulsory subjects at school. Pedro still gets a diploma, but he has to earn a living by mowing the lawns, because he does not know English.
      7 script:
      Johnny takes apart the fireworks left over from Independence Day, puts them in a glue bottle for a model airplane, and blows up an anthill.
      1957 - Ants die.
      2012 - Representatives of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF), Department of Homeland Security, and FBI are called in. Johnny is accused of terrorism. The FBI is investigating his parents, all of his siblings are being taken away from their home and their computers confiscated. Papa Johnny is put on the list of potential terrorists, and he can never fly a plane again.
      8 script:
      Johnny falls during a break and scratches his knee. His teacher Mary finds him crying and hugs him to calm him down.
      1957 - Very soon, Johnny feels better and continues to play.
      2012 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and driven out of work. She faces three years in a state prison. Johnny has been undergoing therapy for five years.
    2. Gooch v. 2
      Gooch v. 2 18 September 2013 15: 44 New
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      Quote: serge
      Hamburgers - from Germany (Hamburg)

      "On July 27, 1900, the American deli Louis Lessing sold his first hamburger in his hometown of New Haven." lol
      Well, okay, I’ll clarify, American pizza and Italian pizza are slightly different, since when preparing pizza in the USA purely American products are used - barbecue, and bacon. OK?
      Cinema may not be an American invention, and the Lumiere brothers were not Americans, only there is such a thing as Hollywood, and the whole world is watching movies coming out of this institution, and Hollywood has become a kind of synonym - cinema, a movie that affects popular world culture .
      Brainwashing? SHIELD? Does the Internet brainwash you? I wonder how is it? The Internet is probably one of the few places where you can choose - what to listen to, what to read, what to see, you can express your point of view and be sure that you will not be held responsible for it, in general terms the Internet is the place where you can choose, but about brainwashing, it’s not your address, it’s a pity on Channel One OJSC, however. lol
      Smiled about perverts :) In Perverted America, pedophiles are chemically castrated or imprisoned, and in enlightened Orthodox Russia mother is conditionally imprisoned for a year, and God forbid, and if you’re the son of some kind of bureaucrat you can’t even steam up :) And very it is strange to talk about this kind of thing, knowing that Russia has not yet signed the European Convention for the Protection of Children from Sexual Exploitation and Sexual Abuse.
      just a stereotype imposed even under the Soviet Deputies, Omeriko, Indians - reservation, Fagots, Gomics, Lesbians, Omeriko there are in large groups of drug addicts and prostitutes. here.
      1. serge
        serge 18 September 2013 16: 04 New
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        Gooch v. 2
        "On July 27, 1900, the American deli Louis Lessing sold his first hamburger in his hometown of New Haven."
        ----------
        “In 1800 (!), A certain German merchant traveling across Asia noticed that the nomad Tatars kept meat under the saddles of horses. While the saddle was moving through the croup, the meat was beaten, becoming more edible. In his native Hamburg, the merchant told his the cook, who then cooked the meat, which delighted everyone with its taste. And the merchant called it "Hamburg meat. Together with the German emigrants, the recipe ended up in the USA. The name" hamburger "was first used by a restaurant in New York in 1834." .
        Well, okay? Like everything in American culture, it is stolen with a different name. In general, Vicki needs to read less, not everything is true there.
        1. Gooch v. 2
          Gooch v. 2 18 September 2013 18: 37 New
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          Quote: serge
          Gooch v. 2
          "On July 27, 1900, the American deli Louis Lessing sold his first hamburger in his hometown of New Haven."
          ----------
          “In 1800 (!), A certain German merchant traveling across Asia noticed that the nomad Tatars kept meat under the saddles of horses. While the saddle was moving through the croup, the meat was beaten, becoming more edible. In his native Hamburg, the merchant told his the cook, who then cooked the meat, which delighted everyone with its taste. And the merchant called it "Hamburg meat. Together with the German emigrants, the recipe ended up in the USA. The name" hamburger "was first used by a restaurant in New York in 1834." .
          Well, okay? Like everything in American culture, it is stolen with a different name. In general, Vicki needs to read less, not everything is true there.

          And here is Wikipedia? :) I took information from the same source as you, the question is different, we are talking about some kind of spherical German merchant in a vacuum who supposedly traveled to Asia, and supposedly adopted something from the Tatars of the nomads, with the same success it can be stated that 90% of the dishes that we see every day on our table were taken from the ancient Vikings, Greeks, Romans, reptilians .. (continue on yourself). I brought the fact that there really was such a grocery store, whose name was that who lived there, and who first sold a certain dish that has the same appearance as now, moreover, the first time I sold this dish and got it money. The question should be in that vein.