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Syria admitted that its helicopter violated Turkish airspace: it flew by mistake

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Syria admitted that its military helicopter violated Turkish airspace.


A statement by a spokesman for the SAR Armed Forces said that the pilot of the helicopter "followed the group of terrorists who had infiltrated into the border area of ​​Yunisiya (Lattakia Province), and by mistake slightly dived into Turkish airspace," ITAR-TASS reports.

"The helicopter did not perform combat missions and, having received an order from the center, immediately turned back, but was shot down over a Syrian territory by a rocket fired by a Turkish aircraft," the communiqué states.

The Syrian command regards the reaction of the Turkish side to the incident as "evidence of the desire of the government of Tayyip Erdogan to aggravate the situation on the border of the two countries."

According to the Deputy Prime Minister of Turkey, Bulent Arinc, the rotary-winged aircraft violated the border, invading Turkish airspace to a depth of 2 km.

The Syrian pilots, according to Ankara, "did not respond to the warning, and their helicopter was shot down by a rocket from a plane that took off from the air force base in Malatia."
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  1. klimpopov
    klimpopov 17 September 2013 08: 46 New
    18
    In, a new occasion. This is the Turks for their downed revenge.
    In general, Assad must be extremely careful now, because the West is waiting for him to press the rocket launch buttons.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 17 September 2013 08: 54 New
      16
      Quote: klimpopov
      This is the Turks for their downed revenge.

      Well, if he really was over someone else’s territory, then the actions of the Turks are quite logical and understandable, which is really cunning. Syrians just do not have to provoke them once again.
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 17 September 2013 08: 58 New
        +2
        Well, I'm talking about too. Since I’ve made a mistake ... I don’t argue. Reasons just do not need to be given.
      2. Akim
        Akim 17 September 2013 09: 09 New
        21
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Well, if he really was over foreign territory, then the actions of the Turks are quite logical and understandable

        2 km - a drop dead distance for a helicopter, especially since it was returning back. The Turks simply do not want the regular Syrian army to control the border at all. Such a convenient way to deliver militants.
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 17 September 2013 10: 32 New
          +5
          Quote: Akim
          Turks simply do not want the regular Syrian army to control the border at all

          Well, judge for yourself, the Syrians are shooting down a plane that violated the border, the Turks are shooting down a helicopter that committed a similar violation.
          Demand from others, do not break yourself. Is not it? What prevents patrolling the border? Nothing! Just don't break boundaries. I assume that they will not shoot down for accidental crossing and deepening of 10-20 meters!
          1. DEfindER
            DEfindER 17 September 2013 15: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: Hedgehog
            I assume that they will not shoot down for accidental crossing and deepening of 10-20 meters!

            Turks will not bring down? when their hands itch to start a war, with a helicopter speed of up to 400 km / h. and the irregularities of the border, an accidental flight of several kilometers is more than possible, the more the helicopter immediately went to its territory, and immediately open fire to defeat, clearly fomenting conflict. The Turkish plane was shot down over Syrian waters, and the Syrian helicopter over its territory, which contradicts all international laws.
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 17 September 2013 15: 35 New
              0
              Quote: DEfindER
              its territory, which contradicts all international laws.

              We cannot do anything with our air shocks. They will figure it out. Is not it? what
            2. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 17 September 2013 16: 49 New
              +1
              Quote: DEfindER
              at a helicopter speed of up to 400 km / h.

              belay But what, if not a secret, is the Syrian helicopter flying at that speed?
              1. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 17 September 2013 17: 00 New
                +1
                Quote: Vladimirets
                This is what, if not a secret

                Yes, it makes no sense to pay attention to such trifles. Judging by the errors, this helicopter has already managed to go deep and return for 2000 km. We say we are warming ourselves. Autumn is already in the yard. wassat
              2. DEfindER
                DEfindER 18 September 2013 13: 02 New
                0
                Quote: Vladimirets
                But what, if not a secret, is the Syrian helicopter flying at that speed?

                Yes, I got excited, combat helicopters fly up to 350 km / h .. if it was so decisively shot down then it should be combat, so it rounded up to 400 km / h :)
            3. alone
              alone 17 September 2013 19: 27 New
              0
              belay 400km \ h. Interesting for a helicopter like this?

              As for the incident, I’ll say that it’s not necessary to break the borders. Let the Syrians themselves shoot down the Turkish f-4 for this. But the fact that the helicopter fell into Syria is not surprising. It’s not uncommon. The main thing is that the Syrian authorities do not deny the violation
              1. GREAT RUSSIA
                GREAT RUSSIA 17 September 2013 23: 27 New
                0
                Quote: lonely
                400km \ h. Interesting for a helicopter like this?

                Damn yourself speed. With such speed and Justin Bieber would not have fled from the Caucasians in the Caucasus.
      3. DEfindER
        DEfindER 17 September 2013 12: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Well, if he really was over foreign territory, then the actions of the Turks are quite logical and understandable

        Well, apparently, the helicopter pilot obeyed the orders of Turkish dispatchers or pilots and left Turkey, why should he be shot down over Syrian territory .. it’s more like revenge and not an adequate reaction .. By the way, why doesn’t they say which helicopter, if not military, then Syria can protest at the UN, because according to international law, it is possible to shoot down only if the aircraft does not respond and does not respond to orders, but here it clearly responded, and to arrange a hunt for it, this is an obvious aggravation of the situation ..
      4. i_vam_ne_hvoratj
        i_vam_ne_hvoratj 18 September 2013 14: 17 New
        0
        Dear Vladimir I cannot but agree with you. But I would not judge the Syrians so categorically. The East, as Comrade Sukhov used to say, is a delicate matter. He always was and probably will be a boiling cauldron. Here, on a territory comparable in area to the territory of sultry Yakutia or sunny Chukotka, the interests of dozens of countries have intertwined (European, American and Asian. binomial Newton.). Taking into account the "good neighborly" relations, as in an old communal apartment, a cigarette butt thrown by a thorn can be regarded as a reason for a return shot. As an old Russian proverb (or saying) says, "A pig will always find dirt" (I emphasize that this is not a stone in the national or religious feelings of the Turks. But this is folklore.) But navigational errors have always been, are and will be. At current speeds, even for relatively slow-moving aircraft such as a helicopter, confusion in a fraction of a minute will lead to errors in kilometers. The point is not only and not so much that the helicopter flew two kilometers deep into Turkish territory. I would appreciate where this helicopter was shot down. If he was shot down over Turkey, then this is one thing, but if he was shot down over Syrian territory, then a comparison suggests itself - a neighbor's chicken stuck its head into your garden between the fence boards, and for this you chase it around the entire neighbor's estate. With the same success, they could have shot down this helicopter over an airfield somewhere in the Damascus region, or wait until it flies up to the firing range next time ..
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 17 September 2013 14: 50 New
      +1
      Here you can find the operational environment from September 9 to 13. There are cards.



      http://warsonline.info/siriya/siriya-operativnaya-svodka-za-nedeliu-s-9-po-15-se

      ntyabrya-2013-goda.html
      1. a52333
        a52333 17 September 2013 16: 55 New
        0
        Well done. Two months ago, the map was more pessimistic. They (government troops) would still cut off the bearded from Turkey. It would be even easier to "finish talking".
    3. Army1
      Army1 17 September 2013 17: 23 New
      +1
      Of course, the triumph of Russian diplomacy was recognized all over the world, I don’t want to sound like a pessimist, but I’m afraid that our "" "partners" "" will not just leave, they will only be stopped by force.
  2. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 17 September 2013 08: 46 New
    +4
    Turks just to press the rocket launch button, in revenge for the downed plane ....
  3. Apollo
    Apollo 17 September 2013 08: 47 New
    +4
    downed helicopter and paratrooper

    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 17 September 2013 10: 42 New
      +5
      In the ancient Bible, it seems that there are words: Do not remember the name of the Lord in vain. It seems that the basics of Islam are taken from there with some changes. I understand that the cry to Allahu akbar is accepted as Combat(!). But what kind of participation did those who pointlessly shout at him repeatedly. I repeat, he is accepted as fighting, but not joyful. Interestingly, at weddings or celebrations, his (cry) is now shouting? I do not recall this!
      1. kirieeleyson
        kirieeleyson 17 September 2013 23: 55 New
        +1
        I wonder how the West would behave if we blasted Turkey in all seriousness (air force bombing + OTRK strikes) In a couple of days, you can turn Turkey into a sea of ​​fire, actually. Will NATO decide on a third world war, with these "Alahuvbar"?
        Bl, how do you want the denouement, comrades already, at least press the button yourself ...
  4. Trailer
    Trailer 17 September 2013 08: 47 New
    +5
    Don’t feed the Turks with bread - let them fight. Nevertheless, it is interesting to watch how today the most modern armies act as mercenaries for the oil sheikhs. It seems that the 21 century. But in reality - everything is as before.
  5. darksoul
    darksoul 17 September 2013 08: 50 New
    +6
    We couldn’t find an official reason for the invasion, attacks from under the silence begin to be undertaken, and the Turkish aircraft recalled ....... six American
  6. Strashila
    Strashila 17 September 2013 09: 14 New
    11
    It deepened, it deepened, but the fact where it was shot down ... over the territory of Syria ... and this is terrorism in an open form. Yes and openly confirmed that the Turkish army is an aggressor and provides fire support to terrorists ... because the helicopter was monitoring the militants ... actually located in Turkey.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 17 September 2013 10: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: Strashila
      over the territory of Syria

      Well, just not like that. It seems that he just fell already into Syria. And the rocket was probably fired when it was over Turkish territory. Evidence will be found. I guess so.
      1. mealnik2005
        mealnik2005 17 September 2013 13: 38 New
        +2
        In the video, the remains of the helicopter fell almost steeply - it is understandable this is not a fighter. So the helicopter could not fly after a couple of kilometers more.
  7. Gur
    Gur 17 September 2013 09: 24 New
    +9
    They dogs do not understand that then they themselves will fight against these fighters
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 17 September 2013 10: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: Gur
      They dogs do not understand that then they themselves will fight against these fighters

      They will transport them to Russia. Via Georgia or Azerbaijan.
  8. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 17 September 2013 09: 47 New
    11
    Anything can happen ...
    October 21, 1970 - the US Air Force U-8 Seminol light aircraft lost its way and violated the airspace of the USSR, after which it was intercepted and forced to land in Armenia. In addition to the pilot, there were two American generals and a Turkish colonel on board. After landing, the plane tried to take off again, but the airfield services blocked the runway with a tanker. After the investigation, the pilots and passengers were released.
    November 28, 1973 - the phantom II reconnaissance aircraft RF-4C (Shah Air Force of Iran) invaded the airspace of the USSR in Transcaucasia. The MiG-21SM intercepting it unsuccessfully used up its missiles, after which the pilot made a supersonic aerial ram. The crew of the Iranian plane (Iranian and American) ejected and was released by the Soviet side after 2 weeks (the Iranian pilot subsequently died in the Iran-Iraq war). Pilot Gennady Eliseev for his interception was posthumously awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union.
    August 24, 1976 - 2 F-100 Super Saber (Turkish Air Force) fighter-bomber invaded the airspace of the USSR. One of them was shot down by a Soviet air defense system - the pilot ejected and landed in Turkey.
    July 21, 1978 - 4 transport helicopters CH-47 Chinook (Shah Army of Iran) invaded the airspace of the USSR over Turkmenistan. They were intercepted by a MiG-23 fighter (pilot - Shkinder), who shot down one helicopter with missiles (8 crew members were killed), and damaged another helicopter by fire from an air gun. The damaged CH-47 made an emergency landing on the territory of the USSR. Subsequently, the car and crew were returned to Iran.
    July 18, 1981 - the Soviet interceptor Su-15TM rammed the Argentine transport aircraft CL-44, which made a secret transport flight on the route Tel Aviv-Tehran and unintentionally invaded the USSR airspace over Armenia. All 4 members of the CL-44 crew died, including a British subject. Pilot - Valentin Kulyapin successfully ejected, for the ram was awarded the Order of the Red Banner.
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D1%EF%E8%F1%EE%EA_%E8%ED%F6%E8%E4%E5%ED%F2%EE%E2_%
    F1_%F3%F7%E0%F1%F2%E8%E5%EC_%E8%ED%EE%F1%F2%F0%E0%ED%ED%EE%E9_%E0%E2%E8%E0%F6%E8
    %E8_%ED%E0%E4_%D1%D1%D1%D0_%281946%971991%29

    In April 1982, the USSR crossed the Iranian border, 79 battalions landed in 6 Mi-8 / Mi-12 helicopters, destroyed a local asphalt plant and entered into battle with Iranian aircraft and infantry ... All this happened as a result of a navigational error - the Soviet Troops from OKSV were thrown 23 km beyond the Iranian border. Iranian "Phantoms" fired helicopters with missiles and cannons. At this time, the MiG-2 cover finally achieved a sustainable capture of the Phantoms, but without direct orders from Moscow they did not open fire. Meanwhile, the Iranians were rebuilt and, maneuvering, began methodically watering helicopters from their six-barreled guns. The landing party, having organized air defense, began to shoot at the Phantoms from everything that was at hand and even grenade launchers. One of the Phantoms was damaged by machine gun fire and was forced to leave with a partner. Phantom shells damaged 8 Mi-8s and had to be destroyed. Losses were avoided. The Mi-8 navigator pilot was slightly injured. When the Iranian motorized infantry battalion with tanks and armored personnel carriers pulled up to the parking spot of Soviet helicopters, they managed to leave Iran. Due to the rush, the Mi-6 fell to the left side and only thanks to the aft hatch dropped on time did the crew and the landing escaped. The Mi-XNUMX tanker, which was going to refuel towards it, ran into an ambush and was shot down. The crew managed to land a damaged car and took up defense. He was rescued by PSS helicopters, closing the group, and the car itself was destroyed from the air.
    http://military-kz.ucoz.org/news/sovetskoe_vtorzhenie_v_iran_v_aprele_1982_goda/
    2012-07-10-2817
  9. pahom54
    pahom54 17 September 2013 09: 59 New
    +6
    After all, Russia has a simple economic and power leverage against Turkey. Why should our tourists softly-hard NOT RECOMMEND a year to go to Turkish resorts? There are many options, smart people will find ways to do this without accusing Russia of something like that ... And ours are immeasurable there, and they feed many Turks ...
    1. Yarik
      Yarik 17 September 2013 10: 17 New
      +2
      Good day. TOTALLY true. As if in
      There are no places to relax in Russia.
    2. Akim
      Akim 17 September 2013 10: 43 New
      -1
      Quote: pahom54
      Why should our tourists softly-hard NOT RECOMMEND a year to go to Turkish resorts?

      Well, there was still not enough new "iron curtain" to introduce. What does not recommend? Let's then recommend everyone to dress the same and live honestly))).
    3. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 17 September 2013 11: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: pahom54
      DO NOT RECOMMEND a year to go to Turkish resorts

      Thought is good. Full of Russian vacation spots. But, a little trifle. What to do to those entrepreneurs who provide people with these permits to Turkey and tickets for travel. After all, they also earn their own piece of bread with caviar, provide some of their employees with jobs and salaries, pay significant taxes, unlike ordinary hard workers. Will you take their problems upon yourself?
      I used to relax in Russia. Someone has never seen a menagerie, now he is not allowed to visit the menagerie if he has a cat at home?
  10. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 17 September 2013 10: 28 New
    0
    So after all, the Americans did not bother about this ... Oh, Turkey, the "mecca" of Russian "tourism", Erdogan went along the path of Egypt ... fool
  11. individual
    individual 17 September 2013 10: 28 New
    +3
    Political games continue between Russia and the United States.
    Between Turkey and Syria, diplomacy is over.
    Any mistake aggravates the situation and is equal to the death sentence for any oversight.
    Now there will be an eye for an eye.
  12. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 17 September 2013 11: 07 New
    +1
    It begins!
    1. JonnyT
      JonnyT 17 September 2013 13: 39 New
      +1
      Yes, it did not end)
  13. andruha70
    andruha70 17 September 2013 12: 08 New
    +1
    Syria admitted that its helicopter violated Turkish airspace: it flew by mistake
    Well, it was necessary to hammer some sort of military object ... also, by mistake ... anyway, they shot down laughing
  14. kostya_a
    kostya_a 17 September 2013 12: 32 New
    0
    Maybe the pilots saw something that they should not have seen on the border! 2 km for a wing-driven car is not much. 000-10 minutes.
    1. screw cutter
      screw cutter 17 September 2013 12: 57 New
      0
      / 2 km for a wing-driven car is not much. minutes 000-10./
      Let's hope that this is a typo, but actually, to shoot down without warning even a lost helicopter is a state of war, it seems to me. PS "The crew ejected, but was destroyed by militants on the ground," is this how to understand? the border is simply teeming with militants and for Turkey this is normal, moreover, she / Turkey / protects them.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 17 September 2013 15: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: screw cutter
        it means that the border is just teeming with militants and for Turkey this is normal

        quite right, the Turks do not even hide it, do not disguise it. Turkey is on the side of the bandits.
    2. alone
      alone 17 September 2013 19: 39 New
      +1
      maximum speed mi-8 (171) - 250km \ hour
      maximum speed mi-24 (25) - in horizontal flight-325km \ hour

      to go 2000km you need 8 hours for mi-8 and 6 with a little hours for mi-24. you do not confuse anything?
  15. Docent1984
    Docent1984 17 September 2013 12: 54 New
    +2
    In war, as in war. This is, apparently, simple non-professionalism - they could not "follow the thread" ...
  16. Yeraz
    Yeraz 17 September 2013 13: 03 New
    +4
    in such a tense relationship, even a couple of meters deepening is suicide, well, I flew in and got it.
    Respect the borders of others, applies to everyone.
  17. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 17 September 2013 14: 47 New
    0
    According to the video, it seems he did not expect an attack. He walked high enough, without anti-missile tricks. Although it may be more likely there from the ground.
  18. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 17 September 2013 14: 51 New
    0
    The fact of the matter is that Turkey does not respect the borders and sovereignty of Syria. In fact, fighting, helping the Mujahideen.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 20 September 2013 00: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergei Medvedev
      The fact of the matter is that Turkey does not respect the borders and sovereignty of Syria. In fact, fighting, helping the Mujahideen.

      Well then, let's not forget who the Assad family helped before Turkey began to get involved in the affairs of Syria. And they helped the PKK very actively. That's the boomerang and returned.
  19. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 17 September 2013 16: 04 New
    0
    Media: USA PLANNING ANTI-TERRORIST OPERATION IN SYRIA USING UAVS (at http://warfiles.ru/show-38820-boycy-siriyskoy-armii-i-kurdskie-opolchency-segodn
    ya-unichtozhili-bolee-80-boevikov.html)
    "The sky over Syria can become a battlefield against global terrorism: the United States is preparing a plan for the destruction of al-Qaeda leaders with the help of drones, who moved to Syria after the start of the armed conflict," RIA Novosti reported on Tuesday with reference to the German newspaper Bild.

    According to the publication, which cites sources in the American intelligence services, to prevent the creation of "Mediterranean Somalia" in close proximity to the borders of NATO, the CIA is considering the possibility of an air strike against terrorist leaders using combat drones. Now CIA analysts track down the leaders of the militants and collect data on them - names, clandestine nicknames, phone numbers, email addresses, coordinates of the places where they appeared, descriptions of the cars they drove by.

    As noted by Bild, in recent months, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria grouping has seriously strengthened in northern Syria, thousands of its supporters fought against the US military during the Iraqi campaign. Most of its fighters came to the region from Saudi Arabia, North Africa and Chechnya. According to a study by the British company IHS Jane's, cited by Bild, one in ten out of 100 Syrian rebels are fighting in groups close to al-Qaeda, and 30-35 thousand of them are radical Islamists. "

    I wonder who in the USA will now be called militants and how will they coordinate the flights of their drones with the Syrian authorities so that they are not destroyed by air defense?
  20. AlSuGe777
    AlSuGe777 17 September 2013 16: 11 New
    +3
    This is a conscious and very competent creation of a precedent by the ATS. The bottom line is that the Turks shot down a helicopter over their territory and it seems like Damascus recognizes the legitimacy of their actions, while even the pilot ejected. Since then, any Turkish aircraft above the border of Syria can automatically be destroyed, while the Turks will not be able to declare the “treachery” of the air defense system of the SAR.
    P.S. This is a good example of information warfare supported by real actions.
  21. starhina01
    starhina01 17 September 2013 16: 46 New
    +1
    such errors of death are similar what it was necessary to instruct the crew as soon as possible but it was too late recourse
  22. Vikmay16
    Vikmay16 17 September 2013 22: 17 New
    +1
    Turks cover militants! This is clear to the blind!
  23. Druid
    Druid 17 September 2013 23: 22 New
    +2
    Quote: Vikmay16
    Turks cover militants! This is clear to the blind!
    Turks are doing what is beneficial to them, like any other country.
    You wrote so, as if Russia itself, when necessary in its interests, does not support separatists or terrorists. Yes, even erase a hundred Syria from the face of the earth, if there is no one's interests, no one will lead an eyebrow, including Turkey and Russia.