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In the US, working on the creation of a large transport airship

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After the famous disaster of the German airship "Hindenburg", which occurred in 1937, the era of airships began to move towards its sunset. These "heavenly whales" in the sky were replaced by planes and helicopters, they began to appear much less often in the air. At the same time, the airships were probably a safer vehicle (even in the Hindenburg crash, 2/3 of all passengers escaped) than the airplanes, they are also much more energy efficient, since there is no need to burn fuel to maintain the airship. It is the energy efficiency of this solution that prevents the airships from dying, even in the era of supersonic aviation.


The American company Worldwide Aeros is currently actively working on a prototype of a new transport airship, which will be deprived of the shortcomings of its predecessors. Based in California, the company created the Aeroscraft airship, which can continue the traditions of the famous German "zeppelins" at a much higher environmental and technological level. The airship can be used for solving civil and military tasks. The airship Aeroscraft has a very spacious cargo compartment, it can make a vertical take-off and landing, which allows its use in a war zone or in areas of natural disasters, where there are no prepared sites.

Safety of the airship is ensured by the use of compressed non-combustible helium, the rigid frame of the airship is made of carbon fibers and ultra-light bullet-proof aluminum. Thus, the preservation of its form does not depend on the fullness of helium. Depending on the modification, the maximum carrying capacity of the airship will be 66, 250 or even 500 tons. The customers of this airship are the US Department of Defense and NASA.

In the US, working on the creation of a large transport airship

The Pentagon intends to use this airship to transport payloads for its tactical brigades around the globe. Although the speed of the airship is only about 115 miles per hour, which is significantly inferior to the speed of modern transport aircraft, this disadvantage is compensated by the ability to land on unequipped land and a large aircraft carrying capacity. Without refueling in the air, the range of the airship Aeroscraft can be about 3000 nautical miles. It is reported that the first airships of this project will move to the world market, starting with 2015 year.

The creators of the airship Aeroscraft, related to the new type, have begun to conduct test flights. The new airship is not inferior to the largest modern military transport aircraft in terms of carrying capacity, and is also able to travel thousands of kilometers through the air, using much less fuel for this. According to experts, the development of the Californian company Aeros can be easily adapted for the transportation of goods that are currently transported by land by train and truck, and by sea by container ships.

American engineers have been working on building their revolutionary airship for several years. According to the developers, the project is currently in its final stage. The engineers have already completed the construction of a prototype, which should in practice prove the efficiency of the chosen concept and give the engineers the opportunity to carry out additional configuration of all the airship systems. The length of the built prototype is almost 77 meters. At the same time it is in 2 times smaller than the model, which in the end will have to go into mass production. But in the built demonstration machine, the same hull structure is used, as well as a similar chassis and flight control system.


American engineers are ready to demonstrate the ability of the vertical take-off and landing of the Aeroscraft airship, which allows for the rapid delivery of goods by air. As planned by the creators, this function can make the airship an ideal option for trade and transport companies. It is reported that the full-fledged version of the Aeroscraft airship will be ready for the first flight in the next 3 years, that is, to the 2015 year. Even in the smallest version, the airship can transport cargo weighing up to 66 tons at a speed of the order of 220 km / h. The airship will be able to travel up to 3000 nautical miles in one flight without refueling and fly at altitudes up to 5,5 km. For reference, the largest of the existing military transport aircraft An-124-100-150 "Ruslan" is able to transport cargoes weighing up to 150 tons by air.

The new airship is perfect for the transport of goods and passengers in those regions, access to which for one reason or another is significantly limited. Aeroscraft can be used to transport oil production equipment to remote areas, to deliver humanitarian aid to areas affected by natural disasters and to transport huge turbines to remote hydroelectric power stations, as well as to transport heavy military and civilian equipment through the air.

Unlike airships, which must maintain their zero buoyancy and maneuver due to variable-angle propellers, the American airship Aeroscraft will exchange the unique system of gas-filled tanks COSH (Control of Static Heaviness), by means of which the static lifting force is controlled relative to the air. This system functions in exactly the same way that ballast tanks of submarines and other similar devices operate.


The revolutionary internal ballast control system is one of the key features of the Aeroscraft airship. All airships of previous generations at the time of unloading had to be tied to the docking site or loaded with additional ballast so that they would not fly away. However, the Aeroscraft ballast control system allows pilots to control the vertical position of the airship by compressing helium inside the cylinders, which in turn allows the gas to become heavier than air and bring the airship closer to the ground.

As soon as loading or unloading is completed, the pressure of helium in the tanks decreases, and the airship soars into the sky, adjusting its direction of movement in the air with the help of turboprop engines installed on it. Thanks to this revolutionary system, the Aeroscraft airship does not need an aerodrome or docking matches - it only needs a free piece of land, which should be large enough for the vertical take-off and landing of the airship and its subsequent unloading.

The airship Aeroscraft can be used on any flat platform and perform instant unloading. It is planned to apply the following technology for this: when the airship approaches the ground, the transport container, hidden for better aerodynamics in the airship's hull, is advanced, and at the moment of contact with the earth's surface, it is detached. After this, the airship, raising its buoyancy, abruptly gains altitude, and the transport container simply remains on the ground.


Among the features of the new airship Aeroscraft Dragon Dream can be noted its flight control system using the Fly-by-Light bus. Fiber optic cables are used in this bus for data transmission, which allows for data transfer at a higher speed and makes the ship's control system more protected from various electromagnetic interference. At the same time, the Fly-by-Light tire will be used for both automatic and manual control of the airship.

With a minimum tonnage of 66 tons, the airship does not require a ready runway or a specially equipped platform. Thanks to this, Aeroscraft airships can become an indispensable means of delivering goods to the most inaccessible corners of the planet. Aeros Corp. Calculates to build the Aeroscraft 3 airship models: ML866 (payload 66 tons), ML868 (payload 250 tons) and ML86X (payload 500 tons). In addition to the usual delivery of goods from point A to point B, these airships can also be used as flying hotels, whose residents will be able to travel around the world by air in 80 days.

It should be noted that the first experienced airship Aeroscraft Dragon Dream took to the air, being tied to the surface of the Earth by a series of safety cables 7 September 2013 of the year. This airship will make its first independent flight in the coming weeks.

Information sources:
-http: //energysafe.ru/environment/electric_vehicles/1340
-http: //1big.ru/news/technology/1619-alyuminievyy-zhestkiy-dirizhabl-samolet-aeroscraft-sovershat-pervyy-ispytatelnyy-polet.html
-http: //www.militaryparitet.com/ttp/data/ic_ttp/6092
-http: //diskolet.ru/airship-aeroscraft-dragon-dream-worldwide-aeros-corporation-usa
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  1. MG42
    MG42 17 September 2013 07: 30 New
    +6
    Aeros CEO and founder Igor Pasternak comes from the USSR. The Pentagon has allocated this company a tidy sum for the implementation of the project >>
    ML 866 Dragon Dream Aeroscraft. Los Angeles
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 17 September 2013 13: 56 New
      +5
      Quote: cobalt
      . We are seriously behind in these developments.

      Really?




      Specialized Skolkovo Foundation experts evaluated the new Atlant Aerostatic Transport Aircraft project.

      According to the Avgur Aeronautic Center company: “this is a combined aircraft combining the best qualities of an airship, airplane, helicopter and hovercraft.” The development company claims that commissioning of this aircraft will again put Russia in a number of world leaders in aircraft manufacturing.


      "The Atlant project received the highest positive score from the expert council. At the initial stage, the state represented by the Skolkovo Fund incurs 75% of all project implementation costs. At the final stage - testing and commissioning of the device, government participation will decrease to 25% . The remaining funds will come from private investors, "the company said.


      To implement the Atlant project, the Avgur Aeronautical Center established a subsidiary, the Atlant Design Bureau, which received the status of a Skolkovo Foundation resident. According to the Atlant developers, it will have unique properties in carrying capacity - up to 250 tons, flight range up to 5 thousand km and the ability to take off and land from any surface, including water.

      http://www.i-mash.ru/news/nov_otrasl/29023-jeksperty-fonda-skolkovo-ocenili-leta

      telnyjj.html





      In 2015, an unmanned airship will be built for Rosatom

      Next year, on the order of Rosatom, the construction of a lenticular unmanned airship will begin, said the Director General of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise Dolgoprudninsk Design Bureau of Automation
      http://vz.ru/news/2012/6/2/581842.html

      Etc.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 17 September 2013 14: 06 New
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        VLADIMIR, August 8. / Corr. ITAR-TASS. The presentation of the reconstructed airship "Kirzhach" near the city of the same name took place today in the Vladimir region. The site will become a test and experimental unit of a large aeronautical center. This was reported by ITAR-TASS, the press officer of the company "Aeronautical center Avgur" Alexei Mitrofanov.

        The only specialized airship in Russia was built in the middle of the last decade, and aerial scanning and photographing of the area were carried out on its basis. Due to the 2008 crisis, the facility had to be closed, and now the new owners are ready to give a second life to a unique airfield. In addition to the redevelopment of the site, the owners managed to restore the AU-30 airship with a carrying capacity of one and a half tons, the largest in Russia and one of the largest in the world.

        "In the near future, we are going to install modern equipment on this airship and resume aerial photography in order to create 3D maps with it," said Alexei Mitrofanov.

        A different fate awaits the Kirzhach airship. It will become a testing platform for the Atlant innovation project, which is a Skolkovo resident. “This is a new word in aeronautics, a cross between an airship, an airplane and a helicopter. An aerostat is equipped with an air cushion, so it can land on almost any terrain,” he added.

        http://www.itar-tass.com/c19/834165.html
        1. vadim dok
          vadim dok 17 September 2013 20: 05 New
          +1
          These are all airships of the usual, traditional type, like the late Hindenburg. A b USA is a fundamentally new device. Therefore, the comparison is incorrect.
      2. vadim dok
        vadim dok 17 September 2013 19: 58 New
        +2
        These so-called "news in the future"! Everything in the project, everything once, not now
  2. cobalt
    cobalt 17 September 2013 07: 56 New
    +5
    For several years now, the US Army has been actively using balloons to monitor the environment around military units. The cameras installed on them detect a person for 8-10 km, and for 4 km you can see the details of his equipment, uniforms and weapons. Over 20 km a vehicle is detected. In terms of costs, it’s a means of operating cheaper than reconnaissance helicopters and other equipment. It hangs all day at the base and does not ask for bread. We are seriously behind in these developments.
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 17 September 2013 08: 23 New
      +6
      Airships are a very necessary thing! From the category of undeservedly forgotten ... Economical and load-lifting. Useful everywhere.
      1. Nukem999
        Nukem999 17 September 2013 08: 38 New
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      Nukem999 17 September 2013 08: 42 New
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    4. avdkrd
      avdkrd 17 September 2013 14: 59 New
      +4
      We lagged behind not in development but in implementation. In addition, we still do not have a clear concept in the field of drones, airships and many useful devices. In the absence of a concept, the manufacturer himself is forced to come up with both application and implementation, and at his own expense. Considering the priest in which the Russian aviation industry is currently located, it is clear that there is no extra money for experiments and developments such as the same EKIP and Atlanta are gathering dust on the shelves, and the defense customer has no special fantasies, and most importantly he orders the competent authority according to the principle - I want like the Americans, it’s only better ..... The Russian military-industrial complex does not invest in comprehensive research of new directions. The military-industrial complex lives in a half-strangled state and can experiment with impunity only in a rut of defense orders.
  3. Ruslan
    Ruslan 17 September 2013 08: 11 New
    +3
    I heard this project was going to close, but he is alive however. such whoppers would be useful for the northern delivery in Russia. and if he can wind up in the wind and in the mountains, in general, an excellent apparatus would be for freight and passenger traffic in the Far East and Siberia.
    1. Nukem999
      Nukem999 17 September 2013 08: 41 New
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  4. Strashila
    Strashila 17 September 2013 09: 41 New
    +5
    Thing ... a long-range air-to-air system + air-to-air system and there will be no price for it.
  5. Wedmak
    Wedmak 17 September 2013 09: 49 New
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    How many enthusiastic words. Unless they write poetry. In fact, they have been experiencing for several years now, they can’t bring to mind the elementary structure. Just because he's big doesn't mean he's so good.
    Compressing helium for landing ... gorgeous, that's just the weight of the compressor, engine with fuel and cylinders for compressed helium, as if it would not have zeroed all the benefits of compression.
    We had a wonderful hybrid airship project. The upper part is helium, the lower part is ordinary heated air. We heat, rises and flies, stop heating, gradually decrease. Simple and cheap. Nothing to compress. Load up to 100 tons. Unfortunately, they didn’t give a mind ...
  6. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 17 September 2013 11: 42 New
    +6
    The author repeats the same details many times, for the length of the article, or what? Or is it, so to speak, a translation without proofreading?
    What is this "ultra-light bulletproof aluminum"? It’s a pleasure to bring down such vessels, I would say, even boring. The armada of escort, without which it is just nonsense, will eat all the money saved. From the point of view of passive safety, the wind load is crazy, so you have to look for a passing train, and it is far from always along the way, "zigzag road." There is no talk about typhoons and other things, because without a garage it will take her somewhere to Siberia, and look for fistulas. And to sit down on the ground to discharge the load is also not an easy task, just think of stabilization efforts in the light breeze? Just our Jewess erodes the budget of the US Defense Ministry.
  7. Tamagon
    Tamagon 17 September 2013 12: 02 New
    +1
    Of course, airships are quite vulnerable when used for military purposes. However, in the civilian sector, with our open spaces they will be very effective. Mastering the Far North, patrolling borders, hunting poachers, protecting marine resources, etc.
    1. Syrdon
      Syrdon 17 September 2013 13: 55 New
      +2
      Well, why, an airship of this type can for example become a carrier of unmanned aerial vehicles, for various purposes from reconnaissance to shock. He will not have to enter the air defense defeat zone, he can hang on a permanent basis in the conflict zone and exercise its control, and much more can be invented.
      1. Tamagon
        Tamagon 17 September 2013 14: 18 New
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        All the same, it is very easy to bring down, so I think it can be used as a supply transport in the rear, without reaching directly to the front line, or as a flying hospital, for example, to evacuate the wounded from field hospitals.
  8. rolik
    rolik 17 September 2013 13: 49 New
    +7
    We did something similar, called Thermoplan. At what stage this product is now unknown. Thermal plan photo ALA-40
    The idea of ​​academician Yuri Ryzhov was revolutionary. As you know, the classic cigar-shaped airships, completely filled with gas, could not land. They moored to special masts in the air. And the thermoplane developed by Ryzhov has a fundamentally innovative design: this is a disk similar to UFOs from science fiction films. And gas - helium - is not filled with its entire volume, but only 2/3. The remaining 1/3 is the heated air, cooling which can ensure a full landing and loading-unloading on the ground.
    Type: Thermoplane ALA-40 (combined gas-thermal)
    Title: "Russia"
    Registration: no
    Production: Design Bureau "Thermoplan" and Ulyanovsk Aviation Plant
    Year of first flight: 1993 (only approaches)
    Volume: 10660 cc meters (376 cu. ft.)
    Length: 40,00 meters (diameter)
    Engines: 2 × GTD-350 (2 × 400 hp); 1 × M-14P (360 hp); 2 × EDUVT (2 × 50 h.p.)
    Crew / passengers: 2/0
    Notes: The airship did not fly. Conclusions were made on the airfield and approaches.
    In the next koment I will continue about this interesting product.
  9. rolik
    rolik 17 September 2013 13: 51 New
    +7
    I continue.
    And the most daring version was proposed by the honored inventor of Russia Viktor Konstantinovich BOGATYREV (b. 1935), who designed a "plate" of kilometer diameter with ship steel walls, nuclear engines and a load capacity of thousands of tons. A nuclear engine is necessary for heating the working fluid (superheated water vapor), which creates lift, and for the operation of marching and steering electric motors. Autonomy of work (it is possible to refuel with nuclear fuel once a year.
    It would seem that it would be pointless to book an aircraft, because modern shells and missiles even break through tank and ship armor, the existing means of destruction easily penetrate the steel armor of the thermal plane! But if penetrating a tank’s armor means at least defeating its crew, and a hole in the ship means a real danger to go to the bottom, then a hole in a flying thermoplane ... will not even knock him off course. The fact is that no country has adopted anti-aircraft missiles with the same penetrating power as anti-tank or anti-ship missiles - this is simply not necessary to defeat planes. To get an anti-ship or anti-tank missile or projectile into a flying target is almost impossible. The usual air missile explodes in 10 — 30 meters from the plane body, showered with shrapnel — for any combat or civilian plane, this is fatal. Remember how in October 2001, a Ukrainian C-200 rocket accidentally shot down a peaceful Russian Tu-154 aircraft over the Black Sea, after being redirected and exploded in 15 meters above the fuselage. For an armored thermoplane, an explosion and shedding such shrapnel as an elephant is a pellet. And the number of hits of missiles in an armored surface-view vehicle can be calculated only by the scratches on its body. For example, after the appearance of armored thermal plans, someone will plan to reprogram anti-aircraft missiles so that they explode not in front of the target body, but when they hit the target body. Indeed, a direct hit by an anti-aircraft missile (the one that blows the plane into shreds) will make a hole in the steel case of the armored plane approximately the size of an 1 square. m. A leak of hot air will begin through this hole, but it will take several days for such a meager compared to the volume of leakage to lead to a loss of buoyancy. During this time, the ship's engine is able to generate hot gas in 100 times larger in volume. In other words, to knock down a thermoplan, you need to hit it at least 100 times. And this on the condition that the enemy will have these 100 missiles in one place (the usual stock of the anti-aircraft division from 6 to 20 — 40 missiles), provided that the crew of the thermoplane will not maneuver, shoot out and repair the holes (this is exactly the case when a hole can be plugged by an ordinary gas welder). And in this case, the "downed" thermoplane will not collapse, but very gently plans to the selected site. Falling at such a sail is almost impossible.

    Such a flying "monster" would be able to withstand the impact of hundreds of earth-to-air missiles at once, the occurrence of a hole of more than 100 square. m! In addition to this nightmare, he is still able to survive even a direct collision with stone rock at speeds in excess of 80 km / h. According to calculations, a ship inflated like a soccer ball will simply rebound from a solid obstacle, the crew will of course fall to its feet, but the ship will endure! A more invulnerable armored cruiser, capable of carrying dozens of combat aircraft, is hard to imagine: torpedoes are powerless against it, all existing anti-ship systems and all anti-aircraft missiles, except nuclear anti-aircraft missiles. The speed of such an aircraft carrier is several times higher than that of its ocean counterpart, so with such a counter air pressure, conventional combat aircraft can take off from a steel kilometer (!) Back and sit back on the Thermoplane, and not just specially built in the deck version .
    1. rolik
      rolik 17 September 2013 14: 01 New
      +5
      Completion.
      So imagine which aircraft carriers or cruisers should be more wary of - ordinary sea or air, capable of high speed to get not only to distant islands, but also to any point of land? Only the summits of the Himalayas in the days of hurricane winds will be inaccessible to armored thermal planes ...
      The world's first thermoplane - a large-sized cargo airship with air ballasting - was created at the Aviastar plant in Samara. Its development began in 1982 under the leadership of chief designer Yuri Ishkov. This project was led by the Ministry of Defense, which subsequently hoped to create a thermoplane with a carrying capacity of 2000 tons, on which it was possible to quickly transfer entire divisions - up to 9000 people, together with equipment. The ALA-40 thermoplane (“aerostatic aircraft”) with a diameter of 40 m and a height of 16 m was completely ready in 1992. The device has a rigid structure and was designed to carry 5-6 tons of cargo. It has a control system for heating gas in the shell: inside the rigid case there were two compartments. One for helium, the other for engine exhaust. In 2005, entrepreneur Kirill Lyats reanimated this project: he found developers led by Ryzhov, rented a workshop at Aviastar and allocated funding - $ 5 million (for starters). Lyats dreams of an airship that will lift 600 tons of cargo, like 10 railway wagons. As of 2010, the development of an ALA-500 thermoplane with a diameter of 200 m and a payload of 500-600 tons was underway. It is very important that the device does not require any special ground equipment, it is environmentally friendly and can be used for transporting timber, oil equipment, as a flying hotel for tourists, a rescue tool in emergency situations, for fighting fires, as a field hospital, etc. d.
    2. alean245
      alean245 17 September 2013 16: 00 New
      0
      And can you learn more about how thick the armor can be hung on this wunderwaffle?
      An ordinary aerial rocket explodes 10-30 meters from the aircraft body, showering it with fragments - for any military or civilian aircraft this is fatal.

      I think that developing a missile with a powerful warhead (say 100-200 kg), piercing the hull of the body of such a mega-plan and being blown up inside is not such a big problem. When it comes to guided missiles, it is generally difficult to miss on such a colossus (even if it moves at a speed of about 200 km per hour).
      1. rolik
        rolik 18 September 2013 16: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: alean245
        I think that developing a missile with a powerful warhead (say 100-200 kg), piercing the hull of the body of such a mega-plan and being blown up inside is not such a big problem.

        You can of course, but you can make a second building (like a submarine) on such a giant thermoplane, besides there are a lot of materials with good ballistic protection now. In the end, you can glue the DZ thermoplane body)))) fantasy is inexhaustible.
        1. alean245
          alean245 18 September 2013 20: 28 New
          0
          You can of course, but you can make a second building (like a submarine) on such a giant thermoplane, besides there are a lot of materials with good ballistic protection now. In the end, you can glue the DZ thermoplane body)))) fantasy is inexhaustible.
          The second building, ballistic materials, DZ ... All this weighs, and pretty well for the airship. You would try to calculate what minimum amount of helium (or of another gas) is required to lift a certain body (for simplicity we will consider it weightless with absolutely thin walls and without payload) sheathed with at least 50 mm steel plates. After calculating, it turned out that such a minimum volume is equal to the volume of a ball of radius just over 900 meters. And how much will such a colossus cost? Where and how to collect it? Will it fall apart under the influence of wind loads? And if you add a lot of payload, then in general the seams turn out ...
          As for protection against missiles with penetrating warheads, neither armor nor even a layer of concrete several meters thick can provide it.
  10. Svetlana
    Svetlana 17 September 2013 13: 56 New
    +2
    Quote: Tamagon
    Mastering the Far North, patrolling borders, hunting poachers, protecting marine resources, etc.

    and also with a similar airship ML868 (carrying capacity 250 tons), you can successfully carry out an air launch of the Polet rocket (mass 102 tons, length more than 30 meters, see http://topwar.ru/32976-rossiya-rabotaet-nad-sozdaniem- vozdushnogo-starta.html)
  11. washi
    washi 17 September 2013 14: 48 New
    +1
    Airships can have a great future. As in the military reg. so in civilian. Their scope depends only on imagination
  12. Gato
    Gato 17 September 2013 16: 19 New
    +1
    The Americans apparently forgot the fate of USS Akron and USS Macon. Although, if you add new technologies to the old idea, it can turn out interesting.
  13. repytw
    repytw 17 September 2013 21: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: rolik
    Completion.
    So imagine which aircraft carriers or cruisers should be more wary of - ordinary sea or air, capable of high speed to get not only to distant islands, but also to any point of land? Only the summits of the Himalayas in the days of hurricane winds will be inaccessible to armored thermal planes ...
    The world's first thermoplane - a large-sized cargo airship with air ballasting - was created at the Aviastar plant in Samara. Its development began in 1982 under the leadership of chief designer Yuri Ishkov. This project was led by the Ministry of Defense, which subsequently hoped to create a thermoplane with a carrying capacity of 2000 tons, on which it was possible to quickly transfer entire divisions - up to 9000 people, together with equipment. The ALA-40 thermoplane (“aerostatic aircraft”) with a diameter of 40 m and a height of 16 m was completely ready in 1992. The device has a rigid structure and was designed to carry 5-6 tons of cargo. It has a control system for heating gas in the shell: inside the rigid case there were two compartments. One for helium, the other for engine exhaust. In 2005, entrepreneur Kirill Lyats reanimated this project: he found developers led by Ryzhov, rented a workshop at Aviastar and allocated funding - $ 5 million (for starters). Lyats dreams of an airship that will lift 600 tons of cargo, like 10 railway wagons. As of 2010, the development of an ALA-500 thermoplane with a diameter of 200 m and a payload of 500-600 tons was underway. It is very important that the device does not require any special ground equipment, it is environmentally friendly and can be used for transporting timber, oil equipment, as a flying hotel for tourists, a rescue tool in emergency situations, for fighting fires, as a field hospital, etc. d.


    Cool!!! Give an aircraft carrier to the American counterpart and cheaper. Well, why do we spend money in the country with such stupidity. Again, praise Stalin, but in the 1930s such a monster would be built and proud of the country, the capitalists would tremble with envy and fear, the boys would dream of airships, why not build one for at least 500 tons of experiments.
  14. studentmati
    studentmati 17 September 2013 23: 13 New
    0
    Our armored train (M-55) stands on a siding ...
  15. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 18 September 2013 12: 37 New
    0
    Found an article - the original about the armored vehicle:
    http://topwar.ru/901-proekt-boevogo-bronirovannogo-termoplana.html - Проект боевого бронированного «Термоплана».
    And the plan is not bad, though at that time the probable adversary did not have various missile options for missile defense, as it is now. Those. if you use it, then over land, away from the sea.
    Yes, but where to collect it, such an apparatus?
  16. USNik
    USNik 18 September 2013 12: 44 New
    +1
    rolik Thank you, interesting projects. But this statement is not true
    To get an anti-ship or anti-tank missile or shell into a flying target is almost impossible.
    In the Iraqi wars there were cases of the effective use of anti-tank missiles with the Mi-24 bot on helicopters (and even, sort of like an airplane). If memory serves, these were modified helpers.
  17. lilit.193
    lilit.193 18 September 2013 14: 50 New
    0
    I don’t know whether it will ever come in handy or not, but the thing itself is beautiful and even magnificent. And interesting too.
  18. alex86
    alex86 18 September 2013 20: 32 New
    +4
    It brought you, gentlemen, comrades, with armored airships, just your ears fade. Very roughly: a load capacity of 1 m3 of helium is 1 kg, a weight of 1 m2 of a 10 mm thick skin (armor, after all) is 78,5 kg. For a load capacity of 50 tons, usable volume is 50 m000 (excluding dead weight), taking into account - 3 100m000, i.e. roughly 3x100x30, surface area 30 m12000. Armor weight 2x78 = 12000 kg, i.e. 936000 tons, increase the volume to raise its own weight to 936x936000 = 78 73 008 m000 - and then I find it ridiculous - is it really so difficult to estimate that the meaning of any airship design is the ease of its construction. And armor and lightness are incompatible things.
    Like children, I swear ...
  19. Basarev
    Basarev 24 September 2013 21: 12 New
    0
    Have you heard about the Tsiolkovsky’s airship? This is really a revolution in airship building, not like that miserable Amer’s airship