US intelligence agencies are not worth a penny

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US intelligence agencies are not worth a penny


As a result of the shooting in the US Navy headquarters, at least 12 people died. This was stated by Washington Mayor Vincent Gray. Previously reported only affected. One of the criminals allegedly killed. The police and the FBI continue to search for two more alleged participants in the crime.



Previously, the police distributed an orientation: a white man with a pistol and a black man with a rifle are wanted. Both are dressed in camouflage suits and are probably former military personnel. They are suspected of having opened fire this morning in local time in Washington, DC, on the 4th floor of the administrative building, which deals with the ceremonial and administrative affairs of the Navy. fleet USA.



Police forces and firemen are concentrated near the US Navy building, the traffic in the area of ​​the special operation has been blocked. CNN reports that the same special forces officers who participated in the seizure of Johar Tsarnaev in Boston were involved in the operation. The police decided to close all the schools in the area of ​​the incident. In the sky above the area are fighting helicopters.



One of the attackers is currently neutralized, but it remains unclear whether it is a question of his arrest or liquidation. The other two shooters are still hiding in one of the shipyard buildings. On the territory of the shipyards in Washington is the operational headquarters of the US Navy, which is the main control body of the Navy, various structures of the US Navy command, as well as a naval stories.

The incident occurred in the building where the headquarters of Naval Sea Systems is located - the largest command in the Navy responsible for the production and procurement of military ships, submarines and their weapons.



It is a building located on the banks of the Anacostia River. This is the oldest building of the US Navy, here are the old shipyard and arsenal weapons. The office houses the ceremonial and administrative center of the Navy: the headquarters of the Naval Command, the military tribunal, as well as cultural institutions - the Maritime Historical Center, the Department of Maritime History and the Navy Corps. The Navy Yard office employs about 3 thousands of people who died could have been significantly more. It is also reported that “for security reasons” all flights at the capital’s airport were canceled. Reagan.



The situation was commented by US President Barack Obama. He said that as a result of a mass execution several people were shot and wounded. Obama also said that both military and civilians were injured. The US President expressed his condolences to the relatives of the victims of this crime and said that this fact would be as thoroughly investigated as in the rest of the mass executions in the United States.



I can already hear how lovers of everything American, from chips to democracy, will shout together, and that there were no terrorist attacks in Russia? Yes they were. But we must understand that you will not surround a school of protection with every school and every theater of protection, as in the states, you will not put a battery of anti-aircraft installations on each skyscraper. This is an attack on the main headquarters of the US Navy!

The US Navy has at its disposal reconnaissance and counterintelligence, special forces and a dozen more special services, the headquarters itself is surrounded by three lines of defense.
And in the afternoon, three with weapons, pass through numerous posts, metal detectors, penetrate the 4 floor, and open fire to kill.
13 September 2013g., There was a leak in the media that My webpage

I am sure that this information was laid on the table of analysts of the main US special services. What, thought a joke? Yes, even if it smacks of dissoi, then on the threshold of war it is necessary to increase vigilance at times. And here is just amazing carelessness. In any army, special services are cream, and if the cream is spoiled, then the milk is sour.

If we take, and transfer, in our time, the legendary group "Alpha" (of that first convocation), then it is able to take on not only Amin’s palace but also the White House in Washington, with such approaches to the performance of their duties by American specialists.
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  1. +15
    18 September 2013 06: 50
    US intelligence agencies are not worth a penny


    I would not be so categorical in evaluations. When a loner acts, especially in a country where weapons are freely sold, it is almost impossible to predict its actions, you can’t get into everyone’s head. In this regard, to reveal and prevent the actions of a group of people is much easier than the actions of a loner. The group always leaves many times more marks and spends more time on preparation.
    1. +29
      18 September 2013 06: 59
      from the Don.
      The fact of the matter is that we are talking about a group that penetrated a carefully guarded object. These: eagles: -speakers spending Amer’s papers are not worth a damn! Indeed, some show-offs !!!
      1. +20
        18 September 2013 07: 15
        something tells me that they won’t take anyone alive laughing
      2. -4
        18 September 2013 11: 10
        Quote: borisjdin1957
        : eagles: -Speakers spending Amer’s papers aren’t worth a cent!

        Your post is capricious, as is the title of the article. We have been shot, blown up and killed in the Caucasus for more than 10 years. If you apply your logic, do our special services also not cost a penny and eat their bread in vain?
        I would not say so. The enemy of underestimating is extremely harmful and dangerous.
        1. +13
          18 September 2013 12: 44
          Quote: baltika-18
          Quote: borisjdin1957
          : eagles: -Speakers spending Amer’s papers aren’t worth a cent!

          Your post is capricious, as is the title of the article. We have been shot, blown up and killed in the Caucasus for more than 10 years. If you apply your logic, do our special services also not cost a penny and eat their bread in vain?
          I would not say so. The enemy of underestimating is extremely harmful and dangerous.

          You are somewhat confused, it’s not about the area with the militants, where it is not known where and what they are doing, it’s about military facility (!)where even employees surrender their weapons at the checkpoint. That is, this person (it doesn’t even matter who he is - a teraryuga or a madman) in the worst case had to arrange shooting maximum on the 1st floor with 1-2 victims (by the guards). And meanwhile, he passed up to 4 floors, and filled up 12 people, just because they were unarmed. So the article emphasizes the point correctly.
      3. goldfinger
        -14
        18 September 2013 12: 30
        From Minsk. Sometimes anti-Americanism outweighs common sense. As if not in Russia there was nothing like it. only for 2012
        March, 6. The terrorist act in Karabudakhkent. The widow of the militant Zaura Zagirova, who was killed in February, Aminat Ibragimova, was blown up at an entry police station in the village of Karabudakhkent, Dagestan. Five policemen were killed and two wounded were taken to hospital. [98]
        May 3 Double terrorist attack in Makhachkala. First, a passenger car under the control of a suicide bomber exploded near a traffic police post. After about 15 minutes, when policemen, rescuers and passers-by gathered at the scene, the Gazelle exploded. According to some reports, the car was parked at the post, according to others it broke through the cordon and drove to the place of the first explosion. The victims of the attack were 13 people, among whom were police, firemen and local residents. About 90 people were taken to hospitals with injuries of varying severity. [99]
        August 6th. In the city of Grozny, Chechnya, at the entrance to the Voentorg store at 13:00 Moscow time, suicide bombers Yusup Gekhaev, born in 1990 and Ali Demilkhanov, born in 1983, blew up the Gazelle, which was leaving the territory of the military unit. The attack killed three military personnel and one civilian, three others were injured. [100]
        August 19. The terrorist act in Ingushetia. Khamzat Aldiev, a 34-year-old suicide bomber, set off an explosion in a crowd of police officers awaiting the release of a funeral procession. Seven policemen became victims of the explosion, another 15 were injured. All the victims served in the PPS regiment. Khamzat Aldiev, a 34-year-old resident of the Arshty village of the Sunzhensky district, who disappeared exactly a year ago, turned out to be a suicide bomber. According to investigators, the organizer of the crime was Arthur Gatagazhev, a 37-year-old native of the village of Sagopshi, known by the nickname Vati ("senior"). In 2010, his gang was defeated, and the offender himself was hiding until he met Doku Umarov, who allowed him to recruit a new brigade of terrorists. The group was formed in the spring of 2012 and again returned to the Malgobek district.
        August 28. Act of terrorism in Chirkey. In the village of Chirkey, Buinaksky district, Dagestan at around 16:50 local time, 74-year-old spiritual leader of Muslims of Dagestan, Said Afandi Chirkey, was blown up in his own house. Suicide bomber Aminat Andreevna Kurbanova (Saprykina), born in 1982, entered his house under the guise of a visitor and detonated an explosive device attached to his belt, stuffed with striking elements in the form of balls from bearings. The power of the explosion was one and a half kilograms of TNT. The attack killed seven people: a sheikh and six parishioners. Another person was taken to hospital. [101]
        October 23. At about 4:20 local time, at a traffic police post in the village of Chermen in North Ossetia, during a document check, a suicide bomber Adam Ekazhev, born in 2109, was driving a bomb with a capacity of about 1988 kilograms of TNT while driving a VAZ-30 car. As a result, he died, as well as junior police lieutenant Zaur Dzhibilov. Four more policemen were injured. [102]
        1. +13
          18 September 2013 12: 53
          Yes, you are also confusing, you are describing cases that actually take place at the site of the counter-terrorist operation, where there are no attacks on the headquarters (even a group of militants are not suicides) and here the main object in the center of a peaceful city is a huge difference. In the comments above, I answered.
        2. +14
          18 September 2013 13: 15
          But - mind you - not a single undermining of the military headquarters ... But not to get there, because. Well, the checkpoint can be shot or blown up ... But to the 4th floor ...
        3. +1
          18 September 2013 13: 15
          Everything that you quoted here is not on that topic at all. Have you ever read the previous dialogue. We are not discussing September 11th.
        4. kavkaz8888
          +10
          18 September 2013 13: 51
          Brother Belarus, you didn’t understand a little. You do not compare our Dagestan and Ingushetia with such an office as the headquarters of the Navy. Our bandits are familiar ravines, as they walk around their garden. This, apart from roadblocks, rarely blows up. And here the Navy STAFF !!! This is not a headquarters, but a mess. The mess is huge.
          And the arrows not only survived, did not merge right away. From the 4th floor, they managed to dump some shipyard. IN THIS INSTALLATION THEIR IMMEDIATELY WERE NOT NEUTRALIZED !? What is the protection?
        5. +1
          18 September 2013 18: 18
          Quote: goldfinger
          As if not in Russia there was nothing like it. only for 2012

          Devil's Advocate ?
          Iraq statistics even more fun !
        6. 0
          19 September 2013 07: 27
          I can already hear how lovers of everything American, from chips to democracy, will shout together, and that there were no terrorist attacks in Russia? Yes they were. But we must understand that you will not surround a school of protection with every school and every theater of protection, as in the states, you will not put a battery of anti-aircraft installations on each skyscraper. This is an attack on the main headquarters of the US Navy!

          I think there’s nothing to add.
      4. +3
        18 September 2013 22: 40
        Quote: borisjdin1957
        The fact of the matter is that we are talking about a group that penetrated a carefully guarded object. These: eagles: -speakers spending Amer’s papers are not worth a damn! Indeed, some show-offs !!!


        Now look at the picture in profile. Presumably, four former military men who have no connection with crime and terrorism, that is, those who are guaranteed to exist below the radar, are planning to mass kill those who have great complaints, people working in the building of the headquarters of the Navy. People for whom no one is watching and who, by definition, are considered trustworthy, are arming, negotiating and shooting.

        Where is the cant of special services ??? Do you think that it is necessary to monitor everyone totally ?? Then, just do "some cops will remain"?

        Now someone will again say that the headquarters is a very sensitive facility. Right. He is protected only from strangers, and these are almost his own. They pulled a pass or passes into a familiar building and put someone ... they just didn’t put it for some reason, but apparently because the guards worked and laid it out not for schoolchildren, but for trained and armed people.

        I think the trouble here is different. Who will tell me what needs to be done with a military pensioner so that he takes up arms and goes to kill clerks at headquarters? Wash what happened - indicative of the United States, for this country, this is in the order of things. The country finances terrorism, but humiliates its military and someone else will be surprised that this happens there?

        hi
      5. honest jew
        -9
        18 September 2013 23: 17
        This is the Russian special services are not worth a penny !!! bombings of houses in Moscow, capture of Nordost, Beslan, explosions at airports and train stations, abduction by militants of high-ranking figures, not to mention ordinary people, the list goes on endlessly In a stranger's eye they noticed a speck, but you don’t see your whole log !!!


        blue - the number of terrorist attacks, red - the number of victims
        1. -1
          19 September 2013 17: 55
          Quote: Honest Jew
          This is the Russian special services are not worth a penny !!!

          What are you talking about colleagues?
          We come from

          CCCP!
    2. -6
      18 September 2013 07: 06
      Quote: Orel
      In this regard, to reveal and prevent the actions of a group of people is much easier than the actions of a loner

      Revealing the actions of a loner is practically impossible, especially if it is not about an explosive device (the manufacture of which can be tracked at least somehow), but with firing in a country where there are more weapons on hand than in the whole world. Predicting the actions of a schizoid who took the trunk and started firing right and left - is not realistic.
      Moskvich shot on passers-by and cars from the apartment window

      14:29 28.08.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX - NTV
      The police found out that the man already has a criminal record. Why he opened fire is unclear. Metropolitan police detained a Muscovite, who opened fire from the window of his apartment.

      In Rostov-on-Don a drunk man from a window shot passers-by with airguns

      In Lviv region a teenager started shooting at passers-by, several people were injured

      Evsyukov’s case - a criminal case on charges of police major Denis Yevsyukov of 2 murders and 22 attempted murders (including attempts on police officers) on the night of April 27, 2009, as well as illegal possession of weapons and ammunition. The bulk of the events took place at the Ostrov supermarket in Moscow on Shipilovskaya street, house 50, building 1 [1] and around it. As a result of the shooting, one person (the driver of the car that brought him up - Sergey Evteev) was killed and seven wounded, one of whom, the cashier Elmira Turdueva, died on the spot, and kept several more Yevsyuk as hostages.
      1. +17
        18 September 2013 07: 14
        We have a democratic shooting, and in the USA the fight against the bloody regime of Obama.
        Do not confuse!
      2. eplewke
        0
        18 September 2013 10: 35
        Who puts Jews on the site? It is time to introduce a visa regime for all kinds of foreign trolls ... stop
        1. +6
          18 September 2013 12: 56
          Quote: eplewke
          Who puts Jews on the site? It is time to introduce a visa regime for all kinds of foreign trolls ... stop

          First, do not let them go to the site, then to the cafe-cinema-restaurant, then to transport, then to evict on the reservation ... Someone has already gone this way, and everything was sad. Do not get excited about writing right away, take 3-5 deep breaths, it helps. hi
          1. eplewke
            +10
            18 September 2013 14: 07
            I have not yet seen a single quote with the Jewish flag which, as it were, on the positive side was described by the Russian state ... I myself am absolutely tolerant of the Zionists, but they don’t particularly share tolerance for the Russians. Have you been to their forums? The Nazis and then not so Russian hated ...
            1. +11
              18 September 2013 14: 34
              They are, look bad. Tolerance towards the Russians is not shared by their leadership, which, by the way, sold them offal, they still do not understand that they are all right, because Putin stopped Obama, this will be seen in 10-15 years. Do not mix people with a corrupt government.
              I personally not only
              Quote: eplewke
              tolerant to Zionists
              but I also grew up with Jews in a Jewish city, so among the Jews I know not only store managers, but also a lot of workers. I had an excellent teacher - Sheikman Isaak Izraelevich, my first mentor in the working profession Gotsman Solomon Yakovlevich, cabinetmaker with golden hands and the Order of the Badge of Honor, my first partner in assembly wime - Geller Mikhail Abramovich. There are no bad nationalities, there are fucking nationalists. And when I was visiting friends (in childhood) in Israel (in 2004), I didn’t especially notice something that would treat me badly, but on the contrary, everything was great.
              1. -3
                18 September 2013 17: 11
                Quote: Max Otto
                They are, look bad.

                Everyone sees what he wants to see. He sees only negatively from the side of the Israelites.

                Quote: Max Otto
                Tolerance towards Russians is not shared by their leadership, which, by the way, sold them with giblets

                No nonsense. By the way, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, as well as the deputy (of Israel) come from Russia (like 5 other ministers)

                Quote: Max Otto
                they don’t understand yet that they’re okay because Putin stopped Obama

                Everything is in order with us, not because of Obama or Putin, but because of the IDF.
                1. +4
                  18 September 2013 17: 25
                  Quote: atalef

                  No nonsense. By the way, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, as well as the deputy (of Israel) come from Russia (like 5 other ministers)

                  Well, there I bent a little of course, you can’t buy the whole government, but Netanyahu is sold, how to give, they say better from the side.
                  Quote: atalef

                  Everything is in order with us, not because of Obama or Putin, but because of the IDF.

                  And here I had in mind on a more global scale, the IDF IDF, did not mean that Israel would cease to be, but with such an arson of the east, you would sleep in gas masks and with M16, but this is not life, you will agree.
                2. 0
                  19 September 2013 13: 23
                  Quote: atalef
                  Quote: Max Otto
                  They are, look bad.

                  Everyone sees what he wants to see. He sees only negatively from the side of the Israelites.



                  "Negative", for reference, is a criminal element firmly embarked on the path of banditry and rejecting the very possibility of cooperation with the authorities. I understand that you wanted to say "negative", but it sounded very appropriate here. Apparently your hypothetical Israeli is so drunk that he sees bandits around him. No wonder the Arabs dislike you so much.

                  Again, for reference, being a Russian and a native of the Russian Federation is not the same thing, just here you can be a Jew born in Russia and living in Israel laughing

                  Everything is in order with you because they cannot touch you because of the USA and its tomahawks. And so, with your external policies, they would have long ago strangled ...
            2. rolik
              +3
              18 September 2013 16: 06
              Quote: eplewke
              I have not yet seen a single quote with the Jewish flag which, as it were, on the positive side, characterized the Russian state ...

              For example, it is very interesting to communicate and argue with the Professor)))) He reminds me of Kupetman from the Interns))))
      3. +2
        18 September 2013 13: 20
        Another clown. "... And our cow crossed the road in the wrong place ...", Do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs.
      4. +1
        18 September 2013 18: 24
        Quote: atalef
        Predicting the actions of a schizoid who took the trunk and started firing right and left - is not realistic.

        You know better .
        In an interview with The Jerusalem Post, Israeli Ambassador to the USA Michael Oren said, reports Lenta.ru.
        The victory of the rebels (even including the al-Qaeda militants), the diplomat said, would be less evil than the preservation of the Syrian-Iranian alliance. The ambassador said: “From the very beginning, we said that Bashar Assad should leave. Better bad guys without ties with Iran than with them. ”
    3. +19
      18 September 2013 07: 27
      Come on! They missed Snowden, they could not substitute Syria with "Zarin", they slept yesterday - great job !!! Over the past two months wink
      1. +28
        18 September 2013 07: 36
        I will even say more.
        These special services overslept the largest terrorist attack in history (9.11).

        (Or belay they themselves did it ?!)
        They overslept the Boston terrorist attack, while ours warned them.
        (Or belay they themselves planned everything and the boys were framed?)
        Apologized for the shitty little mistake with WMD in Iraq
        (Or belay did they intentionally distort the facts ?!)
        Or maybe they now wanted to substitute someone, but the client turned out to be faster and decided to shoot back?
        1. Turik
          +4
          18 September 2013 08: 12
          This was done by one psycho-reservist. 12 (13) corpses and a terrible raucer for the entire state.

          I recently saw an article about the possibility of Syrian special forces entering the United States. Of course, this is a disinformation from the Syrian patriots, for which they certainly glory and honor. But what would happen if such specialists leaked to America in fact?
          1. +3
            18 September 2013 12: 20
            Quote: Turik
            But what would happen if such specialists leaked to America in fact?
            Neither you. nor would we know that. Only after the fact, after fifty years.
          2. rolik
            +1
            18 September 2013 16: 09
            Quote: Turik
            Of course, this is a disinformation from the Syrian patriots, for which they certainly glory and honor.

            Well, why disa ??? Nothing needs to be claimed at 1000% .... what if ??
        2. 0
          18 September 2013 11: 16
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          I will even say more

          That in parentheses is closer to the truth.
    4. 0
      18 September 2013 08: 32
      A lot of pictures, a little text, I don’t really like such articles.
    5. +5
      18 September 2013 09: 02
      Well it’s really very difficult for a loner to uncover until he starts acting, but here it’s about headquarters !!! 3 levels of protection !!! framework, people trained ... this of course is not a failure of special services at the operational level. but as a cover for a particularly important object - unconditional failure
    6. eplewke
      +4
      18 September 2013 10: 32
      Alpha would surely have been brought out ... soldier
    7. +4
      18 September 2013 11: 15
      Quote: Orel
      I would not be so categorical in evaluations.

      I’ll support you. There are enough schizoids around the world.
      And besides, whoever knows him, maybe they will find a Syrian trace there. The guys there are also cunning, they should not be underestimated. But they aren’t afraid either. Our specialists in Soviet times more than once circled their fingers, only there was noise.
      1. 0
        18 September 2013 23: 26
        So tell it to Yitzhak Shulman
    8. +12
      18 September 2013 11: 47
      On duty, until he went into reserve, had to be at our headquarters at different levels. I can’t imagine that an outsider could enter there, and even reach the 4th floor ... I would have to shoot from the checkpoint.
    9. +2
      18 September 2013 12: 31
      The task of special services is prevention. Preventing an idiot with criminal problems from government objects is what the US special services should have done.
      Although, I think that there are practically no normal sane people left in the United States. But the special services are made up of "ordinary Americans."
    10. Ruslan_F38
      0
      18 September 2013 19: 47
      Now imagine what will happen to America if Assad carries out his threats and begins a guerrilla war in the United States.
    11. honest jew
      -8
      18 September 2013 23: 09
      If we take, and transfer to our time, the legendary group "Alpha", (of that first convocation), then it can take not only Amin's palace but also the White House in Washington ...

      Alpha’s gut is thin, Alpha can only show window dressing for superiors. Why didn’t she take the vaunted Alpha palace with Dudaev?

      Alpha has no particularly outstanding operations, and that says a lot !!!
      1. +1
        18 September 2013 23: 13
        If YOU are honest, then you should think with your head. And it’s completely dishonorable to rattle
      2. +2
        19 September 2013 02: 45
        Quote: honest Jew


        Alpha has no particularly outstanding operations, and that says a lot !!!


        something from this phrase straightforward Hollywood blew! what do you mean by this phrase (especially outstanding) -the storm of the moon chtoli?
        something just for the interpretation of such a particularly outstanding ?? alpha is for you that a collection of outstanding artists or poets chtoli!
        and if you don’t know anything about the so-called outstanding operations of this special unit, this means that posters with their successes and failures do not hang out in the city center.
        this is not the same to you Amerov special forces about the act of which the film is shot before the special forces manage to enter the battle!
      3. 0
        19 September 2013 18: 08
        Quote: Honest Jew
        Alpha has no particularly outstanding operations, and that says a lot !!!

        What he says, he says.
        He doesn’t need rabid advertising.
        Somewhere I met _ noisy and dead these are synonyms here.
    12. 0
      20 September 2013 10: 36
      This is straight today!
      MOSCOW, 20 Sep - RIA News. Eleven people, including a three-year-old child, received gunshot wounds as a result of firing in the south of Chicago, Illinois, the Chicago Tribune website reported on Friday, citing city emergency services.
      According to preliminary information, the shootout occurred in the area of ​​the basketball court in the Cornell Square park (Cornell Square). Representatives of city hospitals have not yet reported the severity of injuries.
      The reasons for the shootout are unknown. At the scene of the incident are about 60 law enforcement officers.


      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20130920/964575966.html#ixzz2fPcXL811
  2. +2
    18 September 2013 06: 56
    amers are rapidly degrading. Zadornov is right, they have only lawyers and psychiatrists.
    1. +13
      18 September 2013 07: 00
      Quote: andrei332809
      they have only lawyers and psychiatrists.

      Who do we have? Although, I would add more economists, accountants and managers.
    2. kavkaz8888
      +2
      18 September 2013 14: 01
      Not psychiatrists. Psychoanalysts.
  3. +23
    18 September 2013 06: 57
    If we take, and transfer to our time, the legendary Alpha group (of that first convocation), then it can take not only Amin's palace but also the White House in Washington, with such approaches to the performance of their duties by American specialists.

    Yes, I don't care about the US intelligence service. For me, "Alpha" and the GRU Spetsnaz would be restored to their original form, to attract veterans to train and educate new fighters, to equip them in accordance with the latest achievements, a decent salary, etc. Then I would be glad.
    1. +3
      18 September 2013 08: 57
      "If we take, and transfer to our time, the legendary group" Alpha "(of that first convocation), then it can take not only Amin's palace but also the White House in Washington!"

      I have no doubt about the abilities of "Alpha", they would have become quite.
      1. +4
        18 September 2013 12: 55
        Quote: Stiletto
        they would have become quite

        yes it would become, it was ... the whole question was keeping the enemy in suspense ... and, excuse me, the Central Committee did not have personal interests behind the hill ... and the amina palace is still being studied in all the world's special sub-specialties (specialists for them are tense (well, maybe only Jews) is the standard. And the West takes a long walk to this standard. And the reason is simple - the West values ​​its own ass (any soldier), and we have the Motherland
  4. +6
    18 September 2013 06: 57
    The US is reaping the benefits of its foreign policy. AND .
  5. +6
    18 September 2013 07: 01
    I think in this situation there are two scenarios, either the United States bullies its citizens with such actions in order to justify its military actions abroad (as in the explosion in Boston, the CIA stirs up water again), or former American warriors again rolled off the coils on some or for reasons, for example, they threw with citizenship (they take into the army all who hit).
    1. stroporez
      +1
      18 September 2013 14: 54
      I think you're right. For the Reich, now, literally, it is vitally important to keep your people in a state of extreme fear. They did not bark much about the increase in the budget for the military ..........
  6. +3
    18 September 2013 07: 08
    Don't be so hassle-free, because this "Rambo" is also from the same special services and he knew all their weak points. Another thing is that the work of "recruiting personnel" has definitely failed.
  7. +3
    18 September 2013 07: 16
    If we take, and transfer to our time, the legendary Alpha group (of that first convocation), then it can take not only Amin's palace but also the White House in Washington, with such approaches to the performance of their duties by American specialists.

    Well, if you take "Alpha" then why not take "Brandenburg 800"? The special forces of the past are always cooler than the security services of the present. That is life.
    If we talk about the present day, then when the special services are engaged in provoking, or even real terrorism (in the sense they themselves are engaged in the construction of terrorist acts, and not the fight against them), neither the forces, nor the time, nor the intellectual resources to counter real terrorists remain. Of course, it is possible to gloat over the US special services, but we ourselves have rather sad experience in this matter.
  8. +3
    18 September 2013 07: 17
    Accordingly, these costs are named in the publication "black budget". Their amount for the current 2013 financial year is estimated at 52,6 billion. It is reported that in 16 various intelligence services that make up the US intelligence community are working 107 035 people. At the same time, 21 575 of them work in the CIA.
    The numbers are impressive, the results of their work, too.
  9. Lech from ZATULINKI
    +10
    18 September 2013 07: 17
    A bullet from a firearm becomes a convincing argument in civil society in disputes between opponents.
    Psychos both in the USA and in Russia do not see the difference between whom to kill a soldier or a young child.

    In the future, such killings will be repeated indefinitely until an antidote is found from the crazy killers or radical fanatics of various kinds.

    Maybe the reasons for all this lie in the society itself where the PRICE OF HUMAN LIFE has fallen to the cost of chicken in the bazaar.
    1. +4
      18 September 2013 07: 34
      Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
      Maybe the reasons for all this lie in the society itself where the PRICE OF HUMAN LIFE has fallen to the cost of chicken in the bazaar.

      90 percent, this is one of the main reasons for what happened.
  10. predator.3
    +2
    18 September 2013 07: 21
    The US President expressed his condolences to the relatives of the victims of this crime and said that this fact will be investigated as thoroughly as in other cases of mass executions in the United States.


    The words are scary "for the rest of the cases of mass executions in the United States", well, yes, what else to do if the population has millions of barrels in its hands, there are always itching hands.
  11. +1
    18 September 2013 07: 24
    allegedly killed

    two alleged participants in the crime

    and are probably former military personnel

    Where is the specifics? Probably, presumably ... They themselves still don’t know. There will be a version - Syrian government saboteurs or the machinations of Russian special services. laughing
    The US Navy has at its disposal intelligence and counterintelligence, special forces and a dozen special services, the headquarters itself is surrounded by three lines of defense.
    And in the afternoon, three with weapons, pass through numerous posts, metal detectors, penetrate the 4 floor, and open fire to kill.
    September 13, 2013, there was a media leak that My Webpage

    With a dozen special services .. Hmm. Enough ONE good intelligence agency. There is nothing left to say, how- Well, you give a pancake!. belay With such "special services" of theirs, Russia is definitely not in danger. At least our FSB has never screwed up like that.
    1. +3
      18 September 2013 13: 56
      Yeah, remember the Belgorod shooter? Caught per day.
  12. C-600
    +4
    18 September 2013 07: 26
    If the short barrel were legalized in our country, I think the local special services would have sucked no less.
    1. +1
      18 September 2013 07: 32
      You can also kill with a slingshot. I think this is hardly a "clinical" case. They were clearly pursuing a goal. Everything was calculated, everything was organized. No, they are not crazy.
    2. Lech from ZATULINKI
      +7
      18 September 2013 07: 33
      Dmitry nonsense - people are not only killed by shotguns (knives, axes, stools, ropes, and even imagine hunting weapons).
      Therefore, the question is not about weapons, but about the moral of society (let’s take at least a showdown on the roads between drivers, it’s a quiet horror when people get crazy out of the slightest wrong maneuver)
      Let’s take for example ISRAEL whose citizens are stuffed with weapons to the very dismantling eggs using weapons there are extremely small.
      1. +14
        18 September 2013 08: 15
        Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
        Dmitry nonsense - people are not only killed by shotguns (knives, axes, stools, ropes, and even imagine hunting weapons).

        This is true .... The worst weapon is a stool, with its help you can not only to the bad head, but also the army, well, if you do not kill then weaken ....
        1. +5
          18 September 2013 08: 43
          Yeah! "Stool" is an undeniable argument. good
          1. 0
            18 September 2013 18: 14
            Quote: alexneg
            Yeah! "Stool" is an undeniable argument.

            Suitable name for next-generation weapons of mass destruction.
    3. +2
      18 September 2013 13: 22
      Fig fig - a shotgun, an automatic rifle ... Well, yes - those are still short barrels ...
    4. 0
      18 September 2013 18: 35
      Quote: C-600
      If we have legalized the short barrel

      The deadliest weapon is a kitchen knife!
      Statistics.
      Quote: C-600
      local special services would be scummed no less.

      Shoot from a registered barrel? How about adequacy to reality?
  13. +6
    18 September 2013 07: 28
    US intelligence agencies are not worth a penny

    Does this surprise anyone? Specialists, who were already sparse, after the end of the Cold War, were dispersed. In the role of experts are incomprehensible individuals with hand-drawn diplomas (the last example is the so-called "expert on Syria"). The rest are engaged in sawing and rolling back the state budget, together with PMCs. A surprisingly familiar situation.
    1. +3
      18 September 2013 08: 05
      Quote: Rattenfanger
      The experts are incomprehensible persons with hand-drawn diplomas (the last example is the so-called "expert on Syria").

      She was simply made extreme, although with such external data, I think she is an expert not only in the field of "Syria"!
  14. +5
    18 September 2013 07: 42
    I recently watched the films "The Fall of Olympus" and "The Assault on the White House," and then I thought that such an incredible bullshit could not be. In the same place, the president's specialists are guarding, and even a mouse will not slip past them. That's what I thought. But no, they were almost documentaries.
    The Soviet Union is gone, Russia is not taken into account. So the Yankees relaxed. That's it, I'm starting to prepare a detachment of guest workers for the capture of the Pentagon.
  15. +4
    18 September 2013 07: 45
    What kind of specialists are there? Killed, Negro african american Aaron Alexis, a typical loser with a moving roof. Of the other two who were under suspicion, one was already found and released, because it turned out that he had nothing to do with it. The second is still being sought, but purely for the sake of formality, and most likely it also does not relate to shooting at any side. And certainly no relation to Syria.
    1. Lech from ZATULINKI
      +1
      18 September 2013 07: 50
      So I say too many psychopaths-losers began to appear who, due to some sort of personal insults, begin to kill, notice TOTALLY OUTSIDE PEOPLE.
      1. Lech from ZATULINKI
        +1
        18 September 2013 10: 30
        On Tuesday, a spokesman for the US authorities said that Aaron Alexis suffered from a number of mental disorders, including paranoia. According to him, the relatives of Alexis said that the man suffered from sleep disorders and heard voices. Since August of this year, he was undergoing psychiatric treatment. He received medical assistance from the Veterans Affairs Office.

        RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20130918/963906567.html#ixzz2fDtuTHgH
    2. 0
      18 September 2013 08: 22
      Now yes. People like Robert Gates or Bush Sr. can’t be found there during the day with fire, judging by the results.
  16. soldier's grandson
    +1
    18 September 2013 08: 02
    and they forgot to report that the attackers were Chechens
    1. +2
      18 September 2013 08: 48
      Quote: Soldier's grandson
      the attackers were Chechens

      Not relevant. Bayan will turn out. Then the Syrians. (although amer with fantasy is not very, remember the test tube Powell)
    2. +2
      18 September 2013 13: 26
      They will now investigate and find the Syrian trace ...
  17. StrateG
    +3
    18 September 2013 08: 11
    I don’t know, but I, as well as the author, are confused by the fact that the criminals quietly entered the guarded object. And my version is:
    1) They were employees of the same facility or proxies.
    2) They were professionals (Although hardly the pros would have lost theirs)
    3) This is the beginning of another provocation in the spirit of the Americans themselves. Now they will establish the identity of the captured and he will be a Syrian, they will find a reason to attack, etc.

    The attack strikingly looks like a Boston attack, where the security service could not find the installed bomb and allowed an explosion.
    1. +3
      18 September 2013 08: 29
      Quote: StrateG
      1) They were employees of the same facility or proxies.


      Is not a fact. At one time, Dick Marchenko with the fighters of Team 6 "conditionally destroyed" the headquarters of the US Navy base Coronado in San Diego, along with all command personnel, entering the protected area by taxi.
    2. +1
      18 September 2013 10: 28
      Quote: StrateG
      looks like a Boston attack,

      What is called the "Boston terrorist attack" is already called "theatrical production." Or rather, they immediately began to call it. http://earth-chronicles.ru/news/2013-04-21-42631
  18. +5
    18 September 2013 08: 22
    Psycho loser. Oh how, they hooked a label. And who stuck? False, corrupt media, prompted by false, corrupt military, politicians and US police. You can look somewhere on the list of victims by name, what position they held, in what rank were? Will everyone prove that it is difficult to track down a loner? Ha and carry a bag full of trunks and notice not compact ladies' pistols easy? In my opinion it is even more difficult. Well, there is definitely one conclusion, they will be silent about a real attack on the headquarters of the US Navy.
    1. +3
      18 September 2013 08: 46
      Quote: regdan
      Psycho loser. Oh how, they hooked a label. And who stuck? False, corrupt media, prompted by false, corrupt military, politicians and US police. You can look somewhere on the list of victims by name, what position they held, in what rank were? Will everyone prove that it is difficult to track down a loner? Ha and carry a bag full of trunks and notice not compact ladies' pistols easy? In my opinion it is even more difficult. Well, there is definitely one conclusion, they will be silent about a real attack on the headquarters of the US Navy.


      Most likely you are right. Among those killed, there are certainly responsible and aware of the failed game in Syria. Clean the ends. Even the "correct" specialists were brought in. It's like in the movie "The Negotiator", I recommend watching.
    2. 0
      19 September 2013 04: 30
      Ha and carry a bag full of trunks and notice not compact ladies' pistols easy? In my opinion it is even more difficult.

      If there was a thorough preparation, then they could gradually be carried in a disassembled form.
      1. 0
        19 September 2013 07: 41
        Quote: kush62

        If there was a thorough preparation, then they could gradually be carried in a disassembled form.

        Write nonsense. There are metal detectors. Yes, here I’m carrying a handful of cartridge, disassembled trunks. Oh yes, any guard will put him at the entrance with such spare parts for the trunks. If he secretly carried a disassembled weapon, it means not a psychopath, but well thought out and planned his actions.
  19. soldier's grandson
    +5
    18 September 2013 08: 42
    it seems to me that this is the same as the fall of the Boeing on the Pentagon, after which the funding of the special services increased 300 times
  20. +5
    18 September 2013 09: 04
    Recently, in the states, more and more people are sitting on depressants, because they are constantly drawn (see pushing through) by doctors. People are slowly moving out. Hence the wave of executions. Plus weapons are on sale.
  21. Asan Ata
    +1
    18 September 2013 09: 17
    When there was a terrorist attack in the subway in Moscow, I called a friend, I ask how are you? Yes, no, everything is fine, THIS IS NOT ON OUR METRO. Megacities give rise not only to psychosis, but also to indifference. But the Amers have always had this, but now Obama simply has a desire to remove weapons from the population, well, just in case, all of a sudden, it will be necessary to place them in concentration camps.
  22. Shellback
    +8
    18 September 2013 09: 48
    It is not excluded that the US intelligence services will "discover" the Syrian trail during the investigation. What is not a reason for an invasion outside of any UN Security Council mandates? History clearly shows that the United States is a master at attacking itself. September 11 is a prime example of this.
    1. Peaceful military
      0
      18 September 2013 10: 30
      It is not excluded that the US intelligence services will "discover" the Syrian trail during the investigation. What is not a reason for an invasion outside of any UN Security Council mandates? History clearly shows that the United States is a master at attacking itself. September 11 is a prime example of this.

      Taken off the tongue, I just wanted to add this to my post smile soldier
      1. Shellback
        +1
        18 September 2013 10: 42
        Quote: Peaceful military
        Taken off the tongue, I just wanted to add this to my post

        drinks
  23. Larus
    +2
    18 September 2013 10: 20
    When special services are imprisoned for organizing provocations abroad, we don’t expect this in our country, especially if this is a prepared loner, and not an Internet poser.
  24. Peaceful military
    +1
    18 September 2013 10: 28
    Too amateurish, which means superficial and flat.
    Of course, against the background of what has been happening in our country over the past 30 years, and by and large since the death of Stalin, I would like to rejoice in the failures of the "partners", but this is petty and very childish.
  25. albanech
    +8
    18 September 2013 10: 40
    What naive! The loner is not noticeable ...! It's ridiculous! smile Have you seen houses in the USA with an eye sign on the wall - interaction with the police - rude snitch Have you been to the USA? There are cameras around, at the airport all are recorded and suspicious persons are taken under control in the computer and are monitored throughout the entire stay in the USA! All the explosions, terrorist attacks in the United States are done by the intelligence services themselves on the orders of 200 corporations that rule the world with the approval of the US President’s apparatus (look at his eyes - I know, but I’m not like that). All traces that the intelligence services find have an order of 200 corporations if it is beneficial to them and the United States: September 11, 2001 (the reason for the war), the Boston Marathon (rallying people - keep at bay), Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. The US intelligence services are a prostitute who does everything to control the lives of ordinary citizens - when the issue of food is resolved in the country, no one will say that Obama is ko * zel, n * d * r - people are silent, and if they oppose, this is agreed - show of freedom of speech in the USA - a real derm * cratia!
  26. +1
    18 September 2013 10: 54
    some window dressing
  27. slacker
    +4
    18 September 2013 11: 28
    US intelligence agencies are not worth a penny

    This is a terrorist attack of a loner, such as the Moscow office killer, who killed 6 people.
    It is almost impossible to track and prevent such cases.
    After what Snowden told about their capabilities, I think that these are the leading intelligence agencies of the world with such potential that no one else has, including and the FSB.
    So either blind or frankly stupid people can be so dismissive of the possibilities of Americans.
    1. +1
      18 September 2013 14: 53
      This is a terrorist attack of a loner, such as the Moscow office killer, who killed 6 people.
      And how many, did the office you mentioned have protection levels? If at all.
    2. 0
      18 September 2013 17: 04
      Do not find absurdity in your words, comparing some office with the headquarters of the Navy (which has 3 security levels) ???
  28. +2
    18 September 2013 11: 43
    until the meaning of what happened is clear, few people have suffered (for three pros with rifles) - that means the goal was different.
    1. Lech from ZATULINKI
      0
      18 September 2013 12: 05
      Yes, there is no point here.
      Firstly, to go on the assault of such an object with one rifle is complete stupidity.
      Secondly, the attacker's short-lived resistance means poor preparation.
      Thirdly, attacking an object without any chance of success or staying alive is done only by crazy or suicidal fanatics.
      So I am inclined to the version of a psycho with greetings in brain convolutions.
  29. +7
    18 September 2013 12: 00
    I don’t understand only one thing, why when neutralizing such a dangerous US criminal they didn’t use combat helicopters and carrier-based aircraft ???? And where there were shock drones and tamahawks. LET IT HAS BEEN ZARIN !!!!!!!!!
  30. +3
    18 September 2013 12: 03
    Why so:
    US intelligence agencies are not worth a penny
    ... We, on this site, have long ago "smashed" the amerikosov, but, as Kozma Prutkov said: "Look at the root." It was not the United States that broke up in 1991. (Guys from our special services - no offense)
  31. +3
    18 September 2013 12: 19
    It’s not necessary to whitewash the Amers, they have fallen ... but they got it in their faces. You don’t need to talk about psychopaths of loners, whose actions are not realistic to calculate, imagine such a picture in Russia, get the trunk, and go mock at least at the fence of the Navy Headquarters or at the General Staff of the MO. Fantastic. And America is a rotten country and its end is one inglorious.
  32. +2
    18 September 2013 14: 04
    Quote: goldfinger
    From Minsk. Sometimes anti-Americanism outweighs common sense. As if not in Russia there was nothing like it. only for 2012
    March, 6. The terrorist act in Karabudakhkent. The widow of the militant Zaura Zagirova, who was killed in February, Aminat Ibragimova, was blown up at an entry police station in the village of Karabudakhkent, Dagestan. Five policemen were killed and two wounded were taken to hospital. [98]
    May 3 Double terrorist attack in Makhachkala. First, a passenger car under the control of a suicide bomber exploded near a traffic police post. After about 15 minutes, when policemen, rescuers and passers-by gathered at the scene, the Gazelle exploded. According to some reports, the car was parked at the post, according to others it broke through the cordon and drove to the place of the first explosion. The victims of the attack were 13 people, among whom were police, firemen and local residents. About 90 people were taken to hospitals with injuries of varying severity. [99]
    August 6th. In the city of Grozny, Chechnya, at the entrance to the Voentorg store at 13:00 Moscow time, suicide bombers Yusup Gekhaev, born in 1990 and Ali Demilkhanov, born in 1983, blew up the Gazelle, which was leaving the territory of the military unit. The attack killed three military personnel and one civilian, three others were injured. [100]
    August 19. The terrorist act in Ingushetia. Khamzat Aldiev, a 34-year-old suicide bomber, set off an explosion in a crowd of police officers awaiting the release of a funeral procession. Seven policemen became victims of the explosion, another 15 were injured. All the victims served in the PPS regiment. Khamzat Aldiev, a 34-year-old resident of the Arshty village of the Sunzhensky district, who disappeared exactly a year ago, turned out to be a suicide bomber. According to investigators, the organizer of the crime was Arthur Gatagazhev, a 37-year-old native of the village of Sagopshi, known by the nickname Vati ("senior"). In 2010, his gang was defeated, and the offender himself was hiding until he met Doku Umarov, who allowed him to recruit a new brigade of terrorists. The group was formed in the spring of 2012 and again returned to the Malgobek district.
    August 28. Act of terrorism in Chirkey. In the village of Chirkey, Buinaksky district, Dagestan at around 16:50 local time, 74-year-old spiritual leader of Muslims of Dagestan, Said Afandi Chirkey, was blown up in his own house. Suicide bomber Aminat Andreevna Kurbanova (Saprykina), born in 1982, entered his house under the guise of a visitor and detonated an explosive device attached to his belt, stuffed with striking elements in the form of balls from bearings. The power of the explosion was one and a half kilograms of TNT. The attack killed seven people: a sheikh and six parishioners. Another person was taken to hospital. [101]
    October 23. At about 4:20 local time, at a traffic police post in the village of Chermen in North Ossetia, during a document check, a suicide bomber Adam Ekazhev, born in 2109, was driving a bomb with a capacity of about 1988 kilograms of TNT while driving a VAZ-30 car. As a result, he died, as well as junior police lieutenant Zaur Dzhibilov. Four more policemen were injured. [102]


    Is it okay that you compare an unstable post-war region with a "prosperous and developed" region? =)
    1. +2
      18 September 2013 14: 33
      Is it okay that you compare an unstable post-war region with a "prosperous and developed" region? =)
      +. And in pursuit: in the capital, at a "carefully" guarded facility. Joke! You can't just go to our barn! You can get salt in the ass. laughing
  33. +3
    18 September 2013 15: 40
    Some crazy picture looms ... The headquarters of the Navy, a secure facility, and suddenly three armed men out of nowhere walk up to the 4th floor, lazily shooting at those around them. It smells like something rotten. In the style of a talentless Boston production. It seems that all amers who knew how to make provocations have retired, and now "girls living in the network" are doing this based on stupid shooting toys.
  34. DuraLexSedLex.
    +2
    18 September 2013 15: 51
    Ah, people are enough.
    Here amers cut out amers interestingly! And not some "Tsarnava brothers" but really former employees of the SAME FMS !!! Yes, you just think it's a parodox yes it's like an FSB officer in the Lubyanka starts firing. This is the whole trick, psychos in their armies learn to kill, and then they kill, because they were forbidden to kill))) It's just a kapets!)
  35. 0
    18 September 2013 18: 15
    Rave! The question is, was there a boy?
    1. 0
      18 September 2013 18: 23
      Quote: sined0707
      Rave! The question is, was there a boy?

      The question is not this, but who will be appointed to the role of those two hiding!
      In general, the situation is in limbo.
  36. Tambov we ...
    0
    18 September 2013 18: 44
    Quote: borisjdin1957
    These: eagles: -Speakers spending Amer’s papers are not worth a damn! In fact, some show off !!!


    It is, especially when one continuous PR
  37. d_trader
    0
    18 September 2013 20: 22
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    I will even say more.
    These special services overslept the largest terrorist attack in history (9.11).

    (Or belay they themselves did it ?!)
    They overslept the Boston terrorist attack, while ours warned them.
    (Or belay they themselves planned everything and the boys were framed?)
    Apologized for the shitty little mistake with WMD in Iraq
    (Or belay did they intentionally distort the facts ?!)
    Or maybe they now wanted to substitute someone, but the client turned out to be faster and decided to shoot back?

    I heard today on the radio: in Austria they took by storm a poacher who shot and killed 4 people including police officers and took refuge in the house. Caught up with a bunch of police, troops with special equipment, a man fired not from one from the barrel but from the barrel, you know what he did? never guess in life, he committed suicide by self-immolation! Poacher with trunks set fire to himself! Believe it? Probably not to know ...
  38. +1
    18 September 2013 22: 39
    Pancake! They are there terrorists at headquarters, as they go to work. Here at the airport the whole soul is taken out, while the inspection pass
    1. +1
      19 September 2013 04: 38
      Here at the airport the whole soul is taken out, while the inspection pass

      This is taken out from us. And whoever needs it desperately will always find "incorruptible".
  39. +1
    18 September 2013 23: 23
    All this is a show because of green candy wrappers, now you can safely yell in Congress: "That's what your b ..... th sequestration has brought!" And demand green candy wrappers. There was a path inside the object. What's on the fourth floor?
  40. Marek Rozny
    0
    19 September 2013 18: 26
    Probably, the shooters were familiar with the guards or other people in the building. Therefore, they were able to freely carry weapons (if they did not get hold of them inside the building).

    I go into some sensitive buildings without inspection, just because they seem to know me. Moreover, I’m sure that even if I go to these institutions and someone finds out that I’m with a weapon, everyone will pretend that they haven’t noticed. Like, what is there for formalities, your own ...