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Syrian failure of America: two "simpleton" and one "doctor"

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A new character has appeared in the media: a girl named Elizabeth O'Bagy (Elizabeth O'Bagy), 26 years old, Ph.D., a respected and authoritative expert on Syria. Despite her youth, Elizabeth is well versed in the Syrian conflict, knows for sure that the war was unleashed by Assad, and not at all by hired elements and Al-Qaeda. As an expert, O'Beigi is so good that both John, Kerry and McCain both refer to her opinion. And not somewhere they link, but directly in the US Senate.




But what a bad luck: the other day it turned out that young Elizabeth is not only not an expert on Syria, but not even a doctor.

According to the resource Pravda.ru, O'Beigi was fired - immediately after it became clear that her doctoral degree was a lie. This was written by the newspaper "Politico".

The institution in which she worked from September 2012 of the year until her dismissal made a corresponding statement: “The Institute for Military Studies (ISW) found out that O'Beigi never actually awarded a degree at Georgetown University.”

However, the forgery of a scientific degree is not yet being discussed. In an interview with “Politico”, she said that she had defended her thesis and was awaiting confirmation from the university.

It is interesting here another.

As you know, Comrade Snowden, the famous NSA whistleblower, also composed fables about his education. But his goal was clear (he himself did not hide it): to penetrate the holy of holies and then report on what he saw and heard to society. More precisely, the whole world.

Where did this adventurer want to go?

On TV. Not otherwise, she built a political career. Moreover, since her opinion was found authoritative even by such pillars of the US political establishment, as Secretary of State Kerry and Senator McCain, she had every chance to break through to the very Olympus "analysts", and from there all the roads were open. The main thing is to give the “right” opinion, which in a moment will be picked up by those who need such experts as a traveler in the desert.

And it cannot be said that the Institute for Military Studies, following the disclosure, completely rejected all the opinions of O'Beigi. ISW founder Kimberly Kagan told Politico that this was “a very sad situation,” but she assured the reporter that she was ready to subscribe to O'Beyghi’s comment on Syria: “Everything was thoroughly checked, all her materials are trustworthy.” .

Now it is in some sense difficult to refute: after all, the statements of the “expert” were consecrated by two John. Okay, McCain, but - Kerry!

Channel "RT", referring to The Huffington Post, notes that, having appeared on American TV, E. O'Beigi presented herself as an expert on Syria. Her credibility jumped as soon as McCain and Kerry began to refer to her work during a congressional discussion on the possibility of military intervention in Syria.

The trouble is that statements in the United States alone are not enough. The other day, Joe Biden discovered Neanderthals in the US, but we call for an objective assessment of the situation: a reasonable person is still found in the States.

Charles Lister, lead analyst at IHS Jane's Terrorism & Insurgency Center, criticized the work of the impostor Elizabeth via Twitter. And he was not the only one who took up criticism.

While Mr. Kerry was telling the Congress about O'Beyghi’s experience, journalist Janine Giovanni suggested that the young researcher exaggerated her Syrian experience:

“Everyone who works in Syria as correspondents or researchers are incredibly cautious people. We try to protect each other. Many were shocked when the 26-year-old Ph.D., the so-called expert on Syria, who, as it turned out, had never been to Syria and about whom no one had ever heard, appeared on CNN and other channels. ”


Channel CNN reports that O'Beigi worked at the Institute of Military Studies as a senior analyst for a year. And earlier she worked here for several months as an intern. The above-mentioned K. Kagan called her an exceptional researcher, and noted that she was “happy and proud” of her achievements, and promoted her in the service.

The 30 of August in the Wall Street Journal published a review of O'Beigha, the same one that Kerry subsequently referred to and John McCain. According to the material, “extremists” and “moderates” in Syria exercise control over various areas of the country, and checkpoints are often set up only to differentiate influence. In addition, there are areas in Syria that are moderately controlled by moderate rebels. About this O'Beigi herself told CNN in an interview. Both Kerry and McCain agreed with the conclusions of the “expert,” and McCain even called her review “important.”

At first, the Wall Street Journal recognized O'Beygi only as a “senior analyst” from the institute, but later added an explanation that she belongs to the Syrian Emergency Task Force (“Syrian Emergency Group”), a non-profit organization that supports free Democratic Syria and based in Washington. (Here, let's add on our own where the dog is buried. NPO!).

O'Beigi herself tweeted that she never tried to hide her ties with the opposition and rebel commanders. These ties ensure her safety in Syria. September 7 Elizabeth wrote: "I am not trying to deceive America in this."

As for education, O'Beigi received a Master of Arts degree from Arabic Studies at Georgetown University in May 2013. O'Beigi now claims that she completed her Ph.D. thesis in late August.

CNN's editorial also notes that O'Beigi has appeared on several TV channels, including Fox, BBC, CNN and PBS. After exposing a fake doctor, they no longer let me go to CNN.

Channel Fox also renounced the "expert" in Syria. Here they indicate that O'Beigi is an analyst who is not just loyal to the Syrian opposition, but also once sponsored for a group of extremist militants, on whose website anti-American images can be found - for example, with burning Capitol.

It is clear that now the analyst has been ordered on Fox too.

Daniel Greenfield ("Frontpage Mag") points out that the “Syrian Emergency Group”, with which O'Beigi is associated, is an Islamist organization that is pushing American intervention in Syria today. The girl selling the product under the name "Sunni Islamist rebel agenda," perfectly suited the "Group" - until her career collapsed overnight.

And now the “Group” needs someone else who would go to CNN and explain to the public that the majority of the rebels are such moderate freedom fighters.

Stephen Al ("Examiner") bluntly writes that the Syrian Emergency Group is in favor of al-Qaida.

In the Western media, you can also stumble upon the statement that, they say, two naive - one senator and the other state executive of the highest echelon - turned out to be simple, believing O'Beighi’s impostor. This is as ridiculous as, for example, belief in the statement that the Earth is flat and stands on whales and a tortoise. Another thing is that young Elizabeth was at the right time in the right place. Do not let her lie with a doctoral degree, she would probably have played the role of a button that would trigger the flywheel of the war in Syria.

As for the chemical attack in Syria, which could turn out to be a supply for US intervention, then, as noted by Dmitry Kiselyov and Anastasia Popova ("Vesti"), lawyers, journalists and eyewitnesses tried to separate the truth from lies at a conference on chemical weapons at the UN Geneva Office.

“I watched about two hundred videos from the site, I know Arabic, I understand the accent and I can determine exactly where they are made. I have access to witnesses and victims. On the basis of all this, I can say that I have great doubts that this is not fake or falsification, ”said Mother Superior Agnes of St. Jacob in Syria, an eyewitness to the events.

It is also curious that Fahed Awad, the spokesman for the Al-Farouq Brigade (the one whose leader ate the organs of the dead Syrian soldier), acted as the affected residents of Guta. Facebook has another victim - a member of the Syrian National Council abroad (Turkey). What did this man do in Guta? Finally, another victim in the video pretends to be a doctor from Idlib. Why, just this “doctor” in the photos on Facebook ... tortures hostages.

Captive supporters of Bashar al-Assad, who were sentenced to execution, were among those killed in Gut.

As for the opposition insurgents themselves, in a recent interview with the Associated Press, they admitted that chemical weapon in Gutu they were brought from Saudi Arabia, and twelve people from the detachment were poisoned during transportation.

Not surprisingly, the members of this opposition, we add, are opposed to international control over chemical weapons in Syria. This is all the same as if the owner of production decided to suddenly abandon its own means of production. And, again, it is not surprising that Bashar Asad is in favor of such control.

But the trouble is that Kerry and McCain are quite sufficient statements of some young art expert like Liz O'Beigi ...

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. Civil
    Civil 17 September 2013 07: 34 New
    +1
    All the same, the United States will bomb Syria, do not even hesitate.
    1. Crocodile
      Crocodile 17 September 2013 07: 57 New
      19
      Quote: Civil
      All the same, the United States will bomb Syria, do not even doubt it

      It is possible that it will be so ...
      But today we won time - this is so far the main thing! Time in this matter is playing on us.
      At the moment, it is obvious that the states have lost their unconditional influence in the world. Amers need to look for another "reason" for strikes against Syria. Further promotion of the chemical attack on 21.08.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX increasingly puts the Yankees at a disadvantage in the whole world. Here is another major "specialist" pierced tongue , so the amers seem to have begun to lose their heads, since they did not even bother to give out a diploma to such a necessary person! wassat So for now, you can be happy for our special services and diplomats - they made the amers to the fullest angry
      1. eplewke
        eplewke 17 September 2013 11: 22 New
        +6
        I don’t think they will bomb now. There are a lot of contradictions, a fragmented coalition, and even Russia and China. Too much on the scales. American international expansion is under attack, and Obama's advisers are well aware of this, and on the other side is the huge amount of Saudi and Qatari capital invested in the Syrian war, and a bunch of different interests. I think the US prestige is more important for themselves, they can easily throw countries, not the first time. And the current state of affairs says that the bombing of Syria will hurt US prestige, fortunately, our president tried ...
        1. vlad1
          vlad1 17 September 2013 14: 45 New
          +3
          yes, and the latest allegations that Assad should leave anyway, and the experience of Serbia shows how much Milosevic did not concede, and in the end they threw him off and took him to the Hague for trial
        2. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 17 September 2013 17: 11 New
          +5
          Quote: eplewke
          I don’t think they will bomb now. Already a lot. ...


          will be. Impossibly at the moment they wiped their nose, now they will act more subtly. clearly said - the main thing. Americans have already stated that they do not believe Assad in terms of the number of objects and the volume of chemistry. if the Syrians can use the time that has been vibrated for them to good use and completely then there will be a chance, but for now only a delay. to my great regret.
          1. old man54
            old man54 17 September 2013 18: 01 New
            +1
            no, they will not bomb, everything will gradually resolve, the United States has sensed the formation of a coalition against them and understands that the more they persevere and become impudent, the more it, the coalition of countries, grows stronger.
    2. ultra
      ultra 17 September 2013 11: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: Civil
      All the same, the United States will bomb Syria, do not even doubt it

      Unfortunately, I have to agree with you! The shotgun is already loaded, it remains only to find a reason for the shot, and this is a matter of time!
      1. Andrew 447
        Andrew 447 17 September 2013 12: 17 New
        +1
        And if the use of the "gun" in the scenario has changed. Imagine such a fantastic scenario that this "gun" is used against the sponsors of all this mess of SA and Qatar. Although ......
        1. ultra
          ultra 17 September 2013 23: 36 New
          0
          Quote: Andrew 447
          that this "gun" is used against the sponsors of all this mess of SA and Qatar.

          Let your words be to God’s ears!
      2. alexng
        alexng 18 September 2013 00: 51 New
        0
        Quote: ultra
        Unfortunately, I have to agree with you! The shotgun is already loaded, it remains only to find a reason for the shot, and this is a matter of time!


        And there was already a shot (two shot down missiles in the Mediterranean Sea) sobering up the overwhelming jackals completely.
        One rocket exploded in the air, and the other changed course to the bottom of the sea. After that, the Americans had no desire to attack Syria, realizing the consequences for themselves. The evil empire finally collapsed in September 2013. Now we are just watching the agony.
    3. Politician
      Politician 17 September 2013 20: 17 New
      +2
      I apologize, I wanted to put a plus, clicked on the minus! (I also think that the states will definitely bomb Syria, the question is when? I think that in their sweetest dreams they did not dream that Syria itself would refuse chemical weapons, and here is such an offer They gladly clung to this opportunity. When the chemical weapons are taken out, there is another reason, it doesn’t matter which one. Syria is guilty only of wanting blood in a star-striped skin!
  2. Ivan79
    Ivan79 17 September 2013 07: 46 New
    +5
    But the trouble is that Kerry and McCain are quite sufficient statements of some young art expert like Liz O'Beigi ...

    They just had a reason. Any.
    1. Humen
      Humen 17 September 2013 09: 39 New
      +5
      And they are now looking hard for him.
      1. Hariva
        Hariva 17 September 2013 21: 43 New
        +2
        They are even likely to re-organize it.
    2. Horst78
      Horst78 18 September 2013 07: 30 New
      0
      They just had a reason. Any.
      it remains to find the Reichstag and then it will rush sad
  3. Tersky
    Tersky 17 September 2013 07: 50 New
    19
    If the first persons of the state give out a lie for truth, then what can we say about ordinary citizens of a free country. And "free" in the literal sense of everything. From truth, from responsibility for world-wide “revolutions” and terrorist attacks both in other countries and in our own territory, from conscience and humanity. So Elizabeth O'Baigie had someone and something to learn from. And here is actually the “doctor” of sciences, “respected” and “authoritative” “specialist” in Syria, (photo below). Is it not sisters by chance?
    1. RussianRu
      RussianRu 17 September 2013 09: 12 New
      +9
      One more. Chin gift for a boxer.
      1. Alexxeg73
        Alexxeg73 17 September 2013 09: 20 New
        +2
        And this character is like an elderly gay. Why, why?
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      4. Alexxeg73
        Alexxeg73 17 September 2013 09: 26 New
        +1
        He is not the only one ..

        Here zhezh! I'm trying to insert a photo of Steve Fry - the site does not give! Fry and Kerry are like twins.
      5. Gari
        Gari 17 September 2013 11: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: Russian
        One more. Chin gift for a boxer.

        So from the heart a cool uppercut and asks
    2. Alexxeg73
      Alexxeg73 17 September 2013 09: 20 New
      +7
      Amer’s gloom will still be more sympathetic.
    3. Egen
      Egen 17 September 2013 09: 22 New
      +6
      Quote: Tersky
      And here is actually the "doctor" of sciences, a "respected" and "authoritative" "specialist" in Syria

      What is this "institute FOR the study of war"? I have not heard about this, see smart things for the General Staff are developing :)
      In general, I am amazed at the Western comrades: some youngster came from the forest and opened her eyes to a bunch of venerable men in the government! It's just funny, only in the West this is possible :(
    4. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 17 September 2013 11: 21 New
      +3
      ++. Here is her nature ...
    5. ultra
      ultra 17 September 2013 11: 24 New
      +3
      And the "doctor" is quite a !!! I guess how she got on the "Fox"! laughing
    6. bif
      bif 17 September 2013 13: 24 New
      +7
      It would be better if she studied with Monica Lewinsky, how to break into power ..
    7. Horst78
      Horst78 18 September 2013 07: 31 New
      0
      Eeee, so they have their own horse or something? lol
  4. Vasily T.
    Vasily T. 17 September 2013 07: 53 New
    +4
    The reason will be and most likely in the near future. Turkey or Israel will help in this. It’s unprofitable to keep such a navy group inactive. Something will happen.
    1. Hariva
      Hariva 17 September 2013 21: 47 New
      +2
      "don't go to the grandmother"
  5. Jurgen s
    Jurgen s 17 September 2013 07: 56 New
    +5
    YES forget about all these moans. They will not be. There is only one right - the right of the strong. And as soon as the tan considers it necessary, it will surely hit anyone. And then the base for this business will fail.
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 17 September 2013 08: 29 New
      +4
      Quote: Jurgen S
      ... There is only one right - the right of the strong. And as soon as the tan considers it necessary, it will surely hit anyone.

      Well no. Not so simple. These times have passed when a subject with great military potential was considered strong.
      West loses outreach company. It is obvious. And in a situation where there is neither in the Governments, nor in the people, the overwhelming opinions regarding aggression, to start it is to chop the bitch on which they sit.
      Only the so-called U.S. can push the US into escalation. "discovered facts" and new arguments that will convince the audience of the correctness of the proposed solution.
      I think that now there will be a long period of regrouping of all forces (advocating the force option), against Russia.
  6. CHIM SMOKE
    CHIM SMOKE 17 September 2013 07: 57 New
    +2
    "..... As for the opposition rebels themselves, in a recent interview with the Associated Press, they admitted that they brought chemical weapons to Guta from Saudi Arabia, and twelve people from the detachment were poisoned during transportation ....."

    Interesting, and how so THEY admitted ??? And after all, their North Atlantic "master" was not afraid !!!
  7. Kavosh
    Kavosh 17 September 2013 08: 06 New
    +5
    US intelligence estimates that 21 people died in the chemical attack on August 1429, including about 400 children.

    How so many children ended up in one place at one time?
    Does anyone have the coordinates of the chemical attack site? I want to see through wikimapia.
  8. left-wing
    left-wing 17 September 2013 08: 29 New
    +1
    Lies and lies are the main weapons of Western aggressors!
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  10. 311ove
    311ove 17 September 2013 08: 36 New
    +1
    Yes, the amers have long been “sewing with white thread” - you don’t have to go far for examples - Iraq, Ossetia, Libya, etc. The main thing is that this time it still didn’t work, thanks to Russia and other normal countries. Geyropa and she began to understand something ...
    1. Memorandum
      Memorandum 17 September 2013 23: 19 New
      0
      But has this already been discussed somewhere? http://mixednews.ru/archives/41785. Give me a reference ...
  11. Boris55
    Boris55 17 September 2013 08: 38 New
    +5
    Marat Musin on a chemical attack in Syria. Amazing details of a strange chem. attacks. A laboratory was found where they "cooked" sarin for attack.

    1. carbofo
      carbofo 17 September 2013 12: 09 New
      +2
      I strongly advise everyone to watch this video, believe me, although it is a little messy in the linearity of the narrative, it’s a good story about what is happening.
  12. mushtuc
    mushtuc 17 September 2013 08: 38 New
    +5
    There is no difference between Kerry and Makein - the mental abilities of both are on the same level.
  13. darksoul
    darksoul 17 September 2013 09: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: Civil
    All the same, the United States will bomb Syria, do not even hesitate.


    But for now, everything has been delayed by Russia and Syria has time to prepare and give a decent answer
    1. waisson
      waisson 17 September 2013 09: 40 New
      +4
      soon the Chinese fleet will approach India
      1. Bekzat
        Bekzat 17 September 2013 15: 01 New
        +1
        I greet everyone, for Vasily, it’s very unfortunate that the Indian Navy does not succeed in pulling up, as disputes are being waged from the border territories between China and India, and quite tough ones. And I would very much like to see it.
        1. alone
          alone 17 September 2013 18: 59 New
          +4
          as if later we wouldn’t have to separate the Chinese and Indians off the coast of Syria
  14. Yon_Silent
    Yon_Silent 17 September 2013 09: 48 New
    +3
    "As for the opposition rebels themselves, in a recent interview with the Associated Press, they admitted that they brought chemical weapons to Guta from Saudi Arabia, and twelve people from the detachment were poisoned during transportation ..." they first decided to check for themselves ?
  15. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 17 September 2013 11: 16 New
    0
    "... a reasonable person is still found in the States."-aaaaaa ... as for the leadership of amers, a dubious statement ... recourse
  16. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 17 September 2013 11: 32 New
    0
    Honestly, it’s just disgusting to look at this lie, emotions have ended a long time ago, indifference has appeared and the desire to hasten it all as soon as possible. This can not continue. Have to fight? well, for the sake of my children not growing up as liars, you can sacrifice yourself.
  17. poccinin
    poccinin 17 September 2013 11: 39 New
    +3
    shredded something by the CIA. the Soviet Union did not and the specialists all fled. there were only "positive trainees" and they would find a reason to bomb SYRIA.
  18. Sunjar
    Sunjar 17 September 2013 13: 12 New
    +3
    Previously, the amers did not pay much attention to the jambs with photos, videos and other evidence, and now they pierce according to the old habit, only now their vile faces are immediately poked in falsification, like a naughty kitten, and they look the same after that. Previously, the Soviet Union pulled them up, looked after them, poked sticks in the wheels ... Then the Soviet Union collapsed and no one watched them, in contrast did not say anything and did not do anything, and so they relaxed. And here is such a setup ... Putin openly signs their politicians under piz ***** s. So they started to get nervous, and when you get nervous, you make even more mistakes.
    On this site they wrote that it is quite possible that those who attack Syria will face an international court. At first I thought that it was the author’s dreams, but no. It turns out that the EU has the right to issue an arrest warrant even to presidents, prime ministers, chancellors, etc. (those who are members of the EU) for war crimes.
    And the Syrian expert is even nothing. If she is such a careerist, she can make a knight's move: to say that it was her CIA that made all these things say that they threatened her if she refused, and that is why she came up with impersonating a doctor of science, because she knew that pro-bar people find out her forgery, and she will again be free. It goes without saying that it is against war. Here you can throw such a fortel, looking, and again on central television will be in the top.
  19. Djozz
    Djozz 17 September 2013 13: 22 New
    +1
    In the photo, the children are least like the dead, skin color and where are the hollow bellies?
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 17 September 2013 13: 32 New
      +7
      Quote: Djozz
      In the photo, the children are least like the dead, skin color and where are the hollow bellies?

      No questions - flash mob "... I gave Leshka for a piece of potato ...".
      If you add an old-time repost of a photo from Iraq, take into account the “strange” awareness of Al-Arabiya (a piano in the bushes), and the synchronized howl of engaged media (remember - posters pre-posted in Tbilisi "Russia. Stop!" BEFORE the strike on Tskhinval?), Then we can say with confidence - WHERE THE THREAT TO THE WORLD IS FROM.
  20. wax
    wax 17 September 2013 13: 53 New
    +1
    Here about two ballistic missiles - "targets" of Israel
    http://warfiles.ru/show-38803-vsya-pravda-o-voennoy-konfrontacii-ssha-i-rossii.h
    tml
    Hmm, it seems blocked access. It said that the missiles were launched by the States, and their destruction occurred with the intervention of Russia. After that, the process of chemical disarmament started.
    1. El13
      El13 17 September 2013 18: 36 New
      +1
      Have you read this article yourself? But this is generally pearl:
      the second course was rejected towards the sea

      true, not a word about psi rays ...
      Terry yellowness.
  21. wax
    wax 17 September 2013 14: 08 New
    +3
    The whole truth about the military confrontation of the United States and Russia
    Posted by: KAZAKHSTAN | Date: 17.09.2013/1076/XNUMX | Source | XNUMX A well-informed diplomatic source told the As-Safir newspaper that “the US war against Syria began and ended when two ballistic missiles were launched, leaving behind conflicting information - when Israel denied the launch and Russia confirmed it. The confrontation continued until an Israeli statement was issued indicating that missile launches were conducted as part of a joint Israeli-American exercise, and that the missiles then fell into the sea, and the launches themselves were not related to the Syrian crisis. ”

    The source also told the Lebanese diary that “the US army launched these two missiles from a NATO base in Spain, they were instantly spotted by Russian radars and collided with Russian defense systems - so one of them exploded in mid-air, and the second was deflected to the side seas"...

    these are only the first two paragraphs
  22. Makarov
    Makarov 17 September 2013 14: 23 New
    0
    Dumb Irish eternal pig ...
  23. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 17 September 2013 14: 41 New
    +6
    The article once again confirms: American politicians compose and rig the facts to justify the attack on Syria. At the same time, they do not shun direct lies. all sorts of fabrications. A lot of money has already been spent on a missile strike on Syria. Therefore, the Americans will seek (read: compose regular tales) any reason to carry out their evil deeds. There is almost no doubt about this, unfortunately ...
    1. chushoj
      chushoj 17 September 2013 15: 55 New
      +2
      It went lies against lies. Syria will not even show the location of the chemistry. There is no evidence that Syria has applied this. Syria is supposed to sign the agreement on October 15th. The UN will never allow an investigation to the level where it becomes clear that the chemistry was done in Georgia and delivered through Turkey. Time is won - this is a great victory for Russia, the victory of which paved the way for Syria itself. You need to take off your hat to Syrian courage. Syria itself understands to the marrow of bones that it is doomed. This is the conscious courage of all Syrians from small to large.
  24. shark
    shark 17 September 2013 15: 15 New
    +2
    This situation has clearly demonstrated to what paradoxes and heights of idiocy the civilization of semi-literate single-minded single-minded individuals can reach. Marasmus will grow stronger in the United States. It is perfectly clear that in the next hundred years this state formation will cease to exist. If only the whole world would not be pulled by itself. there is someone to make responsible decisions
  25. mar.hanafi
    mar.hanafi 17 September 2013 15: 15 New
    +3
    Is it really impossible to stop them ?! How long will the world endure ???
  26. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 17 September 2013 15: 53 New
    +1
    It is also curious that the role of the affected residents of Guta was made by Fahed Auad, spokesman for the Al-Farouk brigade (the same one whose leader ate the organs of the murdered Syrian soldier). Another victim is listed on Facebook - a member of the overseas Syrian National Council (Turkey). What was this man doing in Ghouta? Finally, another victim in the video pretends to be a doctor from Idlib. But this “doctor” in the photographs on Facebook ... is torturing the hostages. Among the dead in Gut were captive supporters of Bashar al-Assad, sentenced to death.

    It is not surprising that in spite of all these disclosures, Kerry and McCain are ready to "believe" some false doctor, a certain girl, Elizabeth O'Beighi. And they need it so that there would be a reason (Oh, how you need it!) To begin a "peacekeeping action" against Syria (It doesn’t matter that there will be a lot of blood!).
    The main thing is to start, a fraud will be revealed, but it will be later, the main thing is that the “winners” will not be judged! As has happened more than once after Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya. That's just a problem: the Russians and the Chinese interfered with their fleet, but while hesitating, Putin made a peaceful proposal!
    The whole world saw this, there is nothing to do, I had to "agree" - time has been missed.
    But in order to “save face” they promised to continue to exert pressure on Assad so that “others would not be disgraced”
  27. Vitmir
    Vitmir 17 September 2013 16: 45 New
    -5
    So this is official.
    UN experts confirmed that in August, land-to-ground missiles with sarin poison gas were used to attack civilians in a suburb of Damascus.
    Chemical weapons were used, inter alia, against civilians and children "on a relatively large scale."
    The number of victims is about 1400 people.
    The caliber of missiles is 122 mm (140 mm according to other sources), the opposition does not have such. On the remnants of missiles - Cyrillic markings, which indicates their Soviet (Russian) origin.
    The UN Secretary General rightly called the attack a "war crime."
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 17 September 2013 16: 50 New
      +6
      Quote: VitMir
      The UN Secretary General rightly called the attack a "war crime."


      Tell me what you want, and you will find it.
      1. Vitmir
        Vitmir 17 September 2013 16: 53 New
        -5
        Do you want to say, poisoning with war gas one and a half thousand of your peacekeeper is NOT a war crime?
        And then who will you be after that?
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 17 September 2013 17: 26 New
          +6
          Quote: VitMir
          And then who will you be after that?

          Look at the mirror for a start ...
          The fact of the crime has a mass of living witnesses ... but are you smarter than all smart ones - have you gathered in mattresses?
        2. Glory333
          Glory333 17 September 2013 17: 52 New
          +3
          Zarin against the Syrian citizens was used by the US allies with the full support and assistance of the American special services, this is clear to any sane person.
    2. olviko
      olviko 17 September 2013 18: 18 New
      +2
      "So that's official.
      UN experts confirmed that in August, land-to-ground missiles with sarin poison gas were used to attack civilians in a suburb of Damascus.
      Chemical weapons were used, inter alia, against civilians and children "on a relatively large scale."
      The number of victims is about 1400 people.
      The caliber of missiles is 122 mm (140 mm according to other sources), the opposition does not have such. On the remnants of missiles - Cyrillic markings, which indicates their Soviet (Russian) origin.
      UN Secretary-General rightly calls the attack a "war crime"

      Why did you stop? Let's continue the topic:
      In one of the photographs of the dossier, parts of the rocket are marked with the Cyrillic alphabet. Most likely, these are fragments of the Soviet M-14 missile. This weapon is obsolete, back in the late 1950s, the Syrian army has long abandoned it. Inspectors do not exclude the possibility that warheads for shells could be made at all handicraft. In addition, there are suspicions that someone could have been manipulating the wreckage before the commission arrived.
      More details: http://globalconflict.ru/geopolitics/34491-zapad-snova-obvinil-asada-v-zarinovoj
      -atake Do you think maybe they brought from Libya, so to speak, a gift from "friends of Libya" to "friends of Syria"

      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 17 September 2013 18: 26 New
        +4
        Quote: olviko
        What do you think, maybe they brought from Libya, as it were, a gift from "friends of Libya" to "friends of Syria"

        By marking it is not at all difficult to establish when and where the ammunition was sent, and how it was started.
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 17 September 2013 18: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          By marking it is not at all difficult to establish when and where the ammunition was sent, and how it was started.
          If it’s not false, specially applied for the purpose of provocation
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 17 September 2013 18: 46 New
            +6
            Quote: Misantrop
            If it’s not false, specially applied for the purpose of provocation

            The problem is that ALL the "evidence" found at the scene of the "crime" is not worth a penny against the testimonies of living witnesses. But they did not find a place in the report.
          2. olviko
            olviko 17 September 2013 18: 56 New
            +1
            Here is information from an American intelligence officer, from which friends Sarin came. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0O083OumfA
  28. Gur
    Gur 17 September 2013 17: 23 New
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    How many children in the photo there are no words .............
    1. Glory333
      Glory333 17 September 2013 20: 02 New
      +4
      It’s your business (democrats) that you poisoned these Syrian children to get an occasion to attack Syria, there are no crimes that you would not have committed for the sake of profit; in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you have burned 100 thousand civilians alive.
    2. d_trader
      d_trader 17 September 2013 20: 17 New
      +4
      America will burn in hell!
  29. dld35057
    dld35057 17 September 2013 20: 27 New
    0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjCz1G5cMjU
  30. alex popov
    alex popov 17 September 2013 21: 39 New
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    A girl can be a simple “mouthpiece”, through which the “behind the scenes” announces disinformation and creates the necessary information background from “many independent sources” without illuminating itself. And if Russia hadn’t made a fuss, they would have begun to sort out the qualifications of this “Syrian specialist” in the USA, and even in the context of the fact that the “great Joe” themselves called her “analysis” IMPORTANT! Yes, and in terrible time trouble? I doubt it. 10 years ago, I am sure, there were such "independent experts" who created an information background in support of the invasion of Iraq. And nothing, even after exposing Mr. Powell with his famous test tube, no one was in a hurry and was in no hurry to bring such "doctors" to clean water ...
  31. Arkan
    Arkan 17 September 2013 22: 06 New
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    How liquid it was .... smiling two old cocks, crowing to the beat of a dumb chicken. Once again, showing the whole world his rotten gut.
  32. major071
    major071 17 September 2013 22: 44 New
    +7
    The girl decided to successfully settle down. She gave it to her, she gave it to another, and now she is already "EXPERT !!! in Syria and chemical weapons." Two old senility, simply speaking, decided to "shake the cottage" and settled on the whole world. But this is not the main thing. After all, this bl.dushka could start a war, amusing her ambitions. And the Amersky people shat all. negative
  33. Serg 122
    Serg 122 17 September 2013 23: 20 New
    +1
    Apparently this girl has everything in place and everything is in order. If it's so good
  34. D_L
    D_L 18 September 2013 00: 10 New
    0
    So far, we have won time, and this is not bad!
  35. Bakht
    Bakht 18 September 2013 02: 26 New
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    Zadolbali these specialists with an incomprehensible education. And in any industry. The classic was right: "the amount of reason on the planet is a constant value. And the population is growing." To refer to the opinions of experts becomes bad manners. It’s better to think yourself somehow.

    The situation in Syria is as follows. The refusal of the United States to use force will be seen as a manifestation of weakness (this is not obvious), and as the most unpleasant for America, as a victory for Russia. Considering just the last factor - a forceful decision of the West is simply inevitable. Well, the West cannot admit even for a moment that Russia has weight in some region. This will erase all their work on creating a unipolar world in the last 20 years.

    So under any conditions, the next UN Commission recognizes that chem. weapons used by government troops. And this time they will find more significant "experts". Russia in this situation can only protest. An adequate response is not acceptable. Well, you can’t fight over Syria. Moreover, in the presence of an official UN report.

    Here it is necessary to apply "indirect actions". Through the efforts of the West, Russia has been turned into a raw materials appendage of the West. So we must use the weapons that are available. That is, simply introduce an embargo on the supply of raw materials to Europe. This will hit the economy and the income of Russian billionaires. But these are the inevitable sacrifices to make. In the end, the prestige of the state costs immeasurably more. And losing money is not the same as shedding blood. And the losses may not be so significant, as prices immediately jump to the sky.

    Otherwise, Russia may forget about the multipolar world.
  36. sha20289145
    sha20289145 18 September 2013 02: 40 New
    0
    After some time, it may turn out that this girl is an “expert”, in fact, the agent was “thought out” in the script as a waste maneuver. One can hardly rely only on the naivety of people of this rank. This is a military operation and the “expert” could not, on sympathies, go so far without checking. It looks like a duck.
  37. maklaut007
    maklaut007 18 September 2013 05: 33 New
    +1
    Again the intern))) it’s interesting and the blue dress will be, with traces of snot McCain and Keri ?? The main thing is done, now he will scribble memoirs and life is ensured. Creatures with a calculator in the heart.
  38. Snoop
    Snoop 18 September 2013 05: 45 New
    0
    I agree, they will find a reason and hit Syria. Or they themselves give rise to an attack. After all, everything has already been paid. How interesting, the US Army as a mercenary)))