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On a nuclear submarine in the Primorsky Territory fire occurred, no injuries

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Ignition occurred this morning on a Pacific nuclear submarine fleet "Tomsk", which is being repaired at the dock of the city of Bolshoy Kamen of Primorsky Krai, ITAR-TASS reports. It is reported that no one was injured in the fire.


According to an informed source in the headquarters of the Pacific Fleet, during welding there was a strong smoke between durable and light boat hulls. At the scene work 15 fire brigades of the Pacific Fleet and the Ministry of Emergency Situations. At the present time there is a spill of fire.

There are no casualties among the plant personnel.

Two fireboats and a radiation monitoring vessel were sent to the Zvezda factory where the submarine is located. "This is necessary to exclude an emergency situation and control over the situation," - said a source in the fleet.

“There is no threat of radiation contamination. Weapon unloaded from the boat. The situation is completely controlled. There are no threats to the residents of the city, ”the agency interlocutor assured.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 16 September 2013 08: 55
    +4
    Again carelessness? How long can you step on the same rake? Earlier, "Zvezdochka" stood out for the better ... Yes, exactly - "I decide EVERYTHING"
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 16 September 2013 10: 29
      +4
      So there are no boats, so we’re also burning ... planting for sabotage ...
  2. 31231
    31231 16 September 2013 08: 56
    0
    I drove many times past the Big Kamenyuga. I did not even suspect that the docks of the Star were there.
    1. svp67
      svp67 16 September 2013 09: 10
      +4
      Quote: 31231
      I drove many times past the Big Kamenyuga. I did not even suspect that the docks of the Star were there.
      Yes, there, in those parts, there is a lot of "interesting" things behind (under, in) hills, it's not for nothing that the adversary respects us ...
  3. ElektriK123
    ElektriK123 16 September 2013 08: 58
    -6
    When I heard about this on the news, I thought that soon the missiles in it would bomb)
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 16 September 2013 14: 58
      +1
      When I heard about this on the news, I thought that soon the missiles in it would bomb)




      What missiles? Boat under repair. In containers instead of missiles, cigarette butts and empty bottles.
  4. Ivan79
    Ivan79 16 September 2013 08: 59
    -1
    What is it then? What kind of criminal negligence again? It's good that no one else died.
    1. Klim
      Klim 16 September 2013 20: 10
      0
      This is not negligence. This is ordinary wrecking.
  5. j iz sibiri
    j iz sibiri 16 September 2013 09: 00
    +4
    Well, the Japanese god is not thank God in our country
    all through the ass
  6. Sirs
    Sirs 16 September 2013 09: 04
    +1
    they say that there was "strong smoke", which means the boat was on fire, and this is how it should be said. After such a minor incident, the boat will stay under repair for how long.
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 16 September 2013 10: 08
      +5
      Quote: Sirs
      which means the boat was burning like that and you have to say
      Yeah, and about the possible nuclear explosion, yell at the end, just the topic. You can raise a lot of panic if you want ... wassat Hand-gas cutter + lack of normal control over the work. Now they will disentangle. The nuclear submarine is under repair, but they don’t give money for it, the factory of the most crooked-handed people pokes water there ... request
      1. rolik
        rolik 16 September 2013 10: 55
        +3
        Quote: Misantrop
        Hand-gas cutter + lack of normal control over the work.

        That is a gross violation of the rules for welding. And welded, most likely, some youngsters who are not fully aware of the responsibility of the moment. The lack of cleanliness, because they did not cover the adjacent places, and the diligent master of work, most likely, was not nearby. First of all, it is necessary to ask from the management team for non-compliance with the safety rules.
        1. Coward
          Coward 16 September 2013 14: 04
          +1
          And welded, most likely, some youngsters who are not fully aware of the responsibility of the moment.
          Not the fact that young. "Old people" can be weird too. When I was a foreman, one "old man" climbed into an uncleaned and undegassed fuel tank.
          1. rolik
            rolik 17 September 2013 15: 27
            0
            Quote: Coward
            Not the fact that young.

            I also had a friend, almost a pension. When he came to work with a hangover, opened the shield and took it with his hands in one phase)))) He was so hungover, because you can’t drink at the factory)))) Guys took zero for the sake of fun and touched his neck))) A he only red face, in the direction of the joker, turned and said:
            - Do not shawl !!!
            These were such things. Now this grandfather is far in retirement and how he is now hangover I don’t know))))))
        2. Coward
          Coward 16 September 2013 14: 10
          0
          I mean, I got into the cutter when I cut the skin.
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 16 September 2013 12: 54
      0
      It seems that nothing serious happened, there was no fire, the damage is minimal, they promise to fix it on the spot in 10 days.
      This time, lucky ...

      "According to the report from the scene, there was no fire and open fire on the Tomsk nuclear submarine, which is being repaired at the Zvezda shipyard (Primorsky Krai)," the message says.

      MOSCOW, September 16 - RIA Novosti. The damage from smoke on the Tomsk nuclear submarine is minimal; repairs will be carried out on site within 10 days, a source in the Russian defense department told RIA Novosti.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130916/963451460.html#13793251568003&message=resi
      ze & relto = register & action = addClass & value = registration # ixzz2f32D2yLu
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 16 September 2013 15: 02
        +2
        It seems that nothing serious happened, there was no fire, the damage is minimal, they promise to fix it on the spot in 10 days.
        This time, lucky ...



        When the Ekaterinburg SSB in December 2011, in Roslyakov, on the SRZ-82 was on fire, they also said that the damage was minimal. But the Yekaterinburg SSB is still under repair and there is no end to this repair.
      2. rolik
        rolik 17 September 2013 15: 29
        0
        Quote: Russ69
        It seems that nothing serious happened, there was no fire, the damage is minimal, they promise to fix it on the spot in 10 days.

        At the same time, they stewed for 6 hours, a bit much for a little smoke.
        They will not tell the truth, it can only be found out by the guys who work there. And on official truth channels, 50-60 percent, and that is not a fact.
  7. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 16 September 2013 09: 18
    0
    If Gaster welders wait for bad am
  8. rugor
    rugor 16 September 2013 09: 20
    +7
    Fires on nuclear submarines during repair are already part of the technological process, according to the schedule.
  9. darksoul
    darksoul 16 September 2013 09: 34
    0
    Well, what can I say, they only talk about raising salaries for engineers and workers .... in practice ... in practice, as the story of the new gazelle was, you open the hood and it says under it how much they pay and collect ... so that there are no questions. It’s not enough to pour money into the defense industry and equipment ... they frightened away specialists ... not to send paper rats there
  10. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 16 September 2013 09: 55
    +3
    ... during welding, a strong smoke appeared ...- and those who provided where they were (those who should monitor the progress of welding work) ?, because the welded one does not see anything during operation. There is also demand from him if the rest (fire prevention measures) is all right. hi
  11. UVB
    UVB 16 September 2013 09: 55
    0
    I am not a specialist, but what can burn in the interbody space, as was reported?
    1. Darakht
      Darakht 16 September 2013 09: 57
      +1
      As reported in the news: rubber and paint.
  12. Darakht
    Darakht 16 September 2013 09: 55
    0
    Most importantly, no one was hurt! What damage is caused to the atamarine now no one will tell us - we will hope for the minimum.
  13. sasharos
    sasharos 16 September 2013 09: 58
    +1
    A complete mess, as everywhere in the country, but in general, it is possible that for all these accidents, crashes, unsuccessful launches, someone gets well ...
  14. donavi49
    donavi49 16 September 2013 10: 07
    0
    The fire of ships and boats under repair is normal practice, no one can get away from this, unfortunately. The Americans also have boats and destroyers burning in the docks. The only question is the response. This time they worked well, quickly localized and are now shed, that is, the damage is minimal.
  15. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    NOBODY EXCEPT US 16 September 2013 10: 17
    +1
    The opinion that we do not have specialists, in particular welded ones, is somewhat wrong, they need to be learned a little and that’s all, though there is one subtlety, money, I know the guys who are masters, but they’re unlikely to go for 30-40 tons. r. to the factory, for the sake of the idea, these times have passed ....
  16. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 16 September 2013 10: 55
    +5
    The submarine of project 949A was named Tomsk, with the permission of the administration of the city of Tomsk in 1993. This tradition, dating back to the First World War, the creation of the Union of Cities of the Russian Empire (ZemGor), the Navy command objected forcefully, since the rear support of the ship's crew was in collapse The administrations of Russian cities helped to supply the crews of submarines with food. So the crew of the submarine of project 671RTMK K-448 Tambov was provided by an authoritative businessman, the night governor of St. Petersburg, V. Barsukov (Kumarin), a native of Tambov. Plark Tomsk has been under repair since 2010. Despite billions of dollars in cost, the completion dates for repairs are unknown even to the Navy Command.
  17. Nitarius
    Nitarius 16 September 2013 11: 48
    0
    Tormenting me with vague doubts! and not a deviation, is it! ??? so as not to buy our boats ???
    Already painful coincidences - FIRE in India and here.
    gentlemen with the FSB need to work better so that this does not happen!
  18. Nayhas
    Nayhas 16 September 2013 12: 07
    +2
    Russian welders are demons of fire. Already the second nuclear submarine is being burned ... A safety engineer to tie to screws ...
    1. Ulysses
      Ulysses 16 September 2013 13: 16
      0
      Uh-huh.
      And crank up a dozen times.


      Serious smoke there.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 16 September 2013 22: 26
      +3
      Quote: Nayhas
      TB engineer to screw screws ...

      The idea is harsh ... in its dense nature, given that the leader is responsible for the safe conduct of hot work, that is, the builder. Fire works (welding, especially in confined spaces) are carried out exclusively on tolerance orders, with a temporary fire station and necessarily observers. At the end of the work, the welding places are spilled with water (if this does not threaten anything, i.e. it is safe) and observation is established in for 4 hours, including in an adjacent room. The safety engineer had to check the presence of the work permit, the welder’s (gas cutter) painting, and the immediate supervisor. Check the readiness of the PPB post, the availability of primary fire extinguishing means, etc. Give the go-ahead for work with an entry in the Journal of Work. If this is not done - screw it, a villain! And if done? Where to go to the direct supervisor of hot work?
  19. Ulysses
    Ulysses 16 September 2013 13: 06
    +2
    The order should be put in place at this plant.
    Elementary order.

  20. awg75
    awg75 16 September 2013 13: 14
    0
    to destroy the nuclear submarine of the Russian Navy, this is very necessary for the enemy .... but here a couple of welders and op-la thing is done .... but seriously, it’s necessary to put such a thing to the wall
    1. Darakht
      Darakht 16 September 2013 14: 21
      +1
      Quote: awg75
      to destroy the nuclear submarine of the Russian Navy, this is very necessary for the enemy .... but here a couple of welders and op-la thing is done .... but seriously, it’s necessary to put such a thing to the wall

      Do not suffer from paranoia, you first find out about the wages of people, and then put them on the wall, otherwise it turns out that they only need to put up a monument in life for the fact that they have left for work.
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 16 September 2013 15: 58
        0
        Do not suffer from paranoia, you first find out about the wages of people, and then put them on the wall, otherwise it turns out that they only need to put up a monument in life for the fact that they have left for work.



        The salary at this shipyard is designed for people with additional income, for pensioners. As well as at the Amur Shipyard. To attract young workers at Sevmash, the personnel department carries out an action, the person applying for the job receives 10 thousand rubles. workers do not line up.
        1. Darakht
          Darakht 16 September 2013 16: 31
          0
          Quote: gunnerminer
          10 thousand rubles

          Once the girl is reduced to a restaurant of average lousiness and rented a hotel room without bed bugs for the night = 10 thousand. It will not be enough!
  21. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 16 September 2013 15: 03
    0
    Disregard for the crew requirements ROZHRK (Guidelines for the organization of the struggle for the survivability of ships under repair).
  22. Dmitry Zurn
    Dmitry Zurn 16 September 2013 16: 19
    -1
    This news also has a positive result. "Tomsk" is a 949 project, until recently all combat units were mothballed. And since work is underway, then the recent message that they are going to be put into operation is true. I must say that the 949 project is a real "killer of aircraft carriers" and a real force and the so-called asymmetrical response of the United States.
    Main characteristics


    Displacement
    14 700 t

    Full displacement
    24 000 t

    Length
    154 m

    Width
    18,2 m

    Draft
    9,2 m

    Power point
    2 OK-650V reactors with a capacity of 190 MW each
    total rated power 98 liters. with.

    Surface speed
    15 nodes

    Underwater speed
    32 node

    Working depth
    500-520 m [1]

    Limit depth
    600 m [1]

    Autonomy of swimming
    120 days

    Crew
    130 people

    weaponry


    Missile weapons
    12 paired PU anti-ship missiles
    complex P-700 "Granite"
    only 24 ZM-45 missiles

    Mine torpedo armament
    2 × 650 mm and 4 × 533 mm TA
    total 28 torpedoes
    1. alone
      alone 16 September 2013 22: 56
      +1
      Quote: Dmitry Zurn
      This news also has a positive result. "Tomsk" is a 949 project, until recently all combat units were mothballed. And since work is underway, then the recent message that they are going to be put into operation is true.


      if you are going to put into operation in this way, maybe it’s not worth doing it at all?
  23. waisson
    waisson 16 September 2013 17: 33
    0
    an enterprise has become specially with the decree of the district administration wants to buy Rosneft and Gasprom first unchallenged arson and then big expenses - bankruptcy
  24. jasper
    jasper 16 September 2013 17: 51
    0
    nd mess, just like in the 30s recourse
  25. APASUS
    APASUS 16 September 2013 19: 33
    0
    Well, and the order in the enterprise. There is always a suspicion that not just burns?
    Now you need additional funding?
    1. alone
      alone 16 September 2013 22: 58
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      Now you need additional funding?


      but this is an idea. can still check what the money allocated for repairs was spent on? usually, if you need to hide the shortage, they burn the warehouse. yes