There is no point in the further existence of the USA

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I remember one autumn evening of 1991, I, still a Soviet pioneer, watched on TV a children's party - a carnival from Canada. The action was bright and colorful, people smiled, they are well dressed in foreign clothes. The words of the commentator sounded like a mockery: "Due to bad weather, the participants of the action took hot chocolate with them in thermos so as not to catch a cold."

Pancake! We have sugar on coupons, there is nothing in the store except sprat and birch sap, and they have hot chocolate for ODS prevention! As I was jealous of Canadian children, and my mother sat next to her and envied Canadian mothers. I wonder what Malchish - Kibalchish about bourgeois cookies would be for me - jam said.

I no longer wanted soda pop and sweets bird's milk, give me a Coke and Snickers and I was sure that sandwiches in McDonalds are much more delicious than my mother's meatballs. At that time, her own country seemed somehow ridiculous, absurd, her story a series of bloody mistakes, the present is dull, and it was better not to think about the future.

This is what I mean: the sense of the Soviet Union in building a just state of free people, in building socialism, and later on, of communism. It sounds a bit punchingly, but as long as we believed in these ideals, the USSR was unbreakable.

Then gradually they gradually ceased to believe in the ideals of socialism at the highest levels, having seen enough of the attempts of capitalism, they also wanted to “want to persecute”. There they spoke from the stands about the inevitable world victory of communism, about a classless society, about a five-year plan for three years, etc., but the people, having seen enough of their full faces, eventually stopped believing in all this.

All ... They took out the meaning from the country and it crumbled. I didn’t need solemn promises in a red tie, but hot chocolate, and yesterday’s Komsomol and Communists were more important than clothes, cars, grandmothers, and not some ideals.

For a hundred years our country was called the Russian Empire. Her brave soldiers followed the Faith, the Tsar and the Fatherland. When these ideals were shared by the overwhelming majority of the population, then in almost all wars we had success (of defeats, we can only recall the Crimean War, and taking into account the strength of the parties and the lack of territorial concessions, it can be credited in victory). By the time of the Russian –Japanese war in the army and society, these ideals had noticeably faded and, as a result, a heavy defeat was not from the strongest country. This event caused even greater distrust of the tsar and during the first world "public confidence in the government" dried up.

Instead of Orthodoxy, detestation and aggressive atheism were cleverly slipped, and the Fatherland, in the sense of its forests, fields and rivers, remained almost the same. Again, as at the end of the 20th century, in the absence of the original meaning, the country collapses.

After the terrible World War II, he no longer wanted and could not bear the "white man's burden", and the colonial system collapsed. The British with the French, probably, chose hot chocolate instead of harsh transitions through the jungle and desert. In the XVI century, many Europeans no longer believed in the infallibility of Catholicism (or did not see the point in giving tithe to distant and greedy Rome), and Luther only formulated people's doubts. Many times in history, wild tribes conquered civilized countries, but then they adopted, along with writing, a higher culture, and the worst from their new vassals - a thirst for luxury, laziness, drunkenness, gluttony. As a result, more warlike tribes threw them into the garbage of history. As we see, betraying one’s ideals (the meanings of existence) leads to the weakening of states, the death of countries and peoples.

Now back to the USA. Initially, the ideals of America "cling" to so many. The dream country, which immediately after the beginning of its existence, became not some kind of monarchy in Europe, but a democratic state, where any citizen, as once in Greek policies, participates in the election of a ruler, where every person is born free, the right to property is sacred, there is a right to freedom of religion, individual freedom and bla-bla-bla, bla-bla-bla.

The term “American Dream” means personal success at any cost — it’s just an egoist’s dream. Nobody despises him for egoism, on the contrary, they envy him, he is popular, he is a role model (admiration).

To live as you want, to live for yourself - this is the main purpose of your existence. "Do not worry" spiritual experiences, but you do not have time to "take everything from life." Modern consumer society is just an evolved American egoism lavishly mixed with envy - eat more than your neighbor, buy a cooler colleague car, get a new mobile phone first in class.

Now I will not particularly recall the freely cut and democratically expelled Indians, about the “equality” of the white planters and their black slaves and how the United States chopped off California and Texas — these are all things of the bygone days. Let's look at the declared ideals of democracy today.

Nowadays, states are rapidly turning into a police state. The shell is the same, until no one has canceled the marvelous (everyone accepts the stress itself) constitution, nobody has canceled any amendments there, but in fact there hasn't been a smell of democracy for a long time. Even the election of the main showman of the country - the president, and then not covered with fraud. Everyone probably remembers an armored car with bulletins about Florida in 2000 - m, more than 100% for Obama in 2012 - in some districts, and other absurdities.
And how is democracy combined with a prison in guantanamo, with total surveillance of its own citizens, the dictates of all sorts of minorities, the detention of objectionable, beating, torture?

In the international arena, the United States generally creates chaos, based on its own selfish considerations. You can remember Bout, Yaroshenko, Drones -murderers, but these are all trifles compared with interventions in different countries under, at times, absolutely ridiculous reasons. What kind of "creative" terms come up: "enduring freedom", "humanitarian bombing", "unmanned zone", which in fact turn flourishing cities into piles of rubble.

So, in the US, more and more people see the difference between the declared state ideals and the real picture. All conceivable rights and freedoms are violated then at home, which is abroad. But this is half the trouble, the fact of beating a neighbor with a baton is not so outraged as on a lack of work, mass eviction for debts and lack of prospects is not an “American dream”, but an “American horror” of some kind.

For this reason, the population of the United States is almost unanimous against the war in Syria on the far-fetched pretext, army veterans do not agree with Obama’s plans to “remove” another state, acting soldiers YET hide their faces behind posters: “I don’t want to fight for al-Qaeda,” t. to. it goes against the ideals on which they were brought up since childhood. That is, Americans are rapidly losing faith in their values, more and more people are convinced that the United States is not the “ray of light”. In fact, there is no longer any sense in the existence of the United States, since this country has already lost its inner meaning.

It is possible that the states will simply fall apart and instead appear North Mexico, the Texas Republic, West Zululand, New Aria, the Federation of Indian Tribes, Free Las Vegas, etc. Each such formation will have its own sense of existence, its own, nationalistic and racial ideals. In this case, there will be nothing good, because each “state” will have every reason to be admitted to the nuclear club, and the world will not face a gorilla on tank, and with a gang of mad macaques with grenade launchers.

Another option: America finally dumps its democratic masquerade and builds a "normal", legally decorated system of something like the one described in the "Star landing". One trick: I feel that the role of terrible in every sense arachnidov prepared in the first place to us.

P.S. Somehow, your humble servant in the articles on the All-Russian Association “What do they need from Syria?” And “Kurdistan as Poland of a century ago” expressed the idea that true puppeteers and “beneficiaries” of chaos on greater BV are some circles dreaming of a great Israel from Nil to Euphrates.

It turns out that the United States is used by them as a big stick, methodically crushing all neighboring states to fine dust (the same Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and so on. The great democracies of the Persian Gulf are now used "in the dark," they themselves pay a significant part of the costs of dismantling their neighbors. the queue will come later, when “suddenly” it becomes clear that human rights are not very much there).

It is likely that the true meaning of the United States is to clear the "living space" for one people. If this is so, then in the case of the Syrian bombing raids, contrary to custom, the Americans will abandon the use of impoverished uranium in order not to lose the meaning of the whole idea.

PS.S .: And what is the meaning of the existence of Russia, its national idea, without which no country will last long?
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  1. serge-68-68
    +20
    16 September 2013 07: 05
    Hmm ... If everything in the world was so easily solved. But a bumblebee, for example, does not know that according to the laws of physics it cannot fly - and flies to itself ... That is, Americans do not see anything from what the author of the article living in another country saw. They live happily ever after and are not going to fall apart.
    1. Quiet
      +14
      16 September 2013 07: 36
      Those. Americans do not see anything from what the author of the article living in another country saw. They live happily ever after and are not going to fall apart.

      Not always an ostrich helps the option of a head in the sand. Problems will only increase further. And their people (in the bulk) are trying to get away from them - to hide in the sink like a snail ...
      1. 755962
        +34
        16 September 2013 08: 47
        And what is the meaning of the existence of Russia, its national idea, without which no country will last long?
        1. +8
          16 September 2013 09: 21
          There is no point in the further existence of the USA
          the Yankees listened to the author, scratched the cowboy turnip with their coarse fives and .... went to implement in iron the program of building three new heavy nuclear aircraft carriers like "Gerald R. Ford" ..... wings, legs, the main thing - a tail !!! ...... but seriously, everyone, in the face of eternity and his own conscience, must choose for himself the meaning of his life personally and not suffer about sinful and lost Americans ..... earthly life is fleeting and the world is not ruled by the Rothschild family and Rockefellers, and the Lord God ... and everyone will be rewarded according to his deeds
          1. Natalia
            +3
            16 September 2013 10: 09
            It is enough to see what the US economy is ... and there is no US economy, their whole economy is transnational capital, the heads of the largest transnational corporations set the vector for US policy. For example: WTI West Texas Intermediate stock indices fell, also known as Texas light sweet, a brand of oil produced in Texas (USA). In order to give an impetus to growth, any military tension is needed anywhere in the world ... Syria, is it simply perfectly not true.
          2. +10
            16 September 2013 11: 35
            Quote: strannik595
            the Yankees listened to the author, scratched their cowboy turnips with hard-nosed five and

            Without reference to the meaning of the article, the title of the article itself causes rejection, offhand a couple of the same names:
            "There is no sense in the future existence of Papua New Guinea"
            "In the future, the existence of the author does not make any sense"
            Let the author explain what is the meaning of the existence of other countries?
        2. +1
          16 September 2013 09: 43
          Briefly and succinctly. hi
        3. S_mirnov
          +4
          16 September 2013 12: 14
          Quote: 755962
          And what is the meaning of the existence of Russia, its national idea, without which no country will last long?

          Improving the well-being of present and future generations of citizens was the meaning of the USSR. This is socialism.
          The meaning of the existence of the state of Russia is to ensure the material benefits of the oligarchic elite and protect their interests (do not confuse oligarchs and capitalists, unlike capitalists, oligarchs do not generate capital (means of production) - their welfare is stolen during the collapse of the USSR, according to the results of privatization).
          Accordingly, so that the people do not become indignant, their educational level is artificially lowered (EG, the reduction of schools, universities, changes in the curriculum), and further along the classic path - "bread (privatized apartment, a second-hand foreign car, a lot of tasteless sausage) and spectacles (Olympiad, president with storks, media matrix, religious activities in temples) ".
    2. +4
      16 September 2013 09: 47
      We must lend a helping hand to them (in the collapse) laughing
      The collapse of the USSR was a shock to the Americans, even the CIA did not virilize it, however it happened, everything is real in this world.
    3. vladikmamcha
      +9
      16 September 2013 09: 56
      If the bumblebee still flies, then we do not know all the laws of physics, but they operate regardless of our knowledge or ignorance. So are the "humming" Americans. They still live, but the law has already started working. That's all.
      1. +4
        16 September 2013 11: 59
        Yes, as much as possible, damn it, with this bumblebee! It is well known how it flies, already about 50 years. Here, for those interested (though in English, but quite intelligibly)
        http://www.ox.ac.uk/document.rm?id=1003

        or simpler here http://www.origins.org.ua/page.php?id_story=356
      2. +1
        17 September 2013 00: 22
        Quote: vladikmamcha
        They still live, but the law has already worked.

        They just do not know one wise quote: "Do you see a gopher? - No. - And I do not. And he is!"
    4. +3
      16 September 2013 10: 43
      Apparently you had in mind that a bumblebee flies contrary to the laws of aerodynamics, he is unlikely to be able to break the laws of physics. If this is so, then the reasons are most likely in the imperfection of the laws themselves, and not in the ignorance of the bumblebee.
      I agree with the second part of the statement, as long as there are McDonald's and a sense of superiority over others, that is, living well and life is good, America is little threatened.
    5. +3
      16 September 2013 11: 47
      About the collapse is not so simple. More than once in the history of the United States there have been conflicts of individual states with Washington. Texas recently started talking about secession. The USA is a union of individual states. Each state has its own laws, often different from the center, and their division can happen much easier than the collapse of the USSR. The referendum, and all, Texas is independent of Washington. Would rather fall apart! You look then they will not bark so much to the whole world!
      1. eplewke
        +2
        16 September 2013 12: 27
        The United States will soon be projecting a rogue country. The era of their dominance is over. is over!
        1. ElektriK123
          0
          16 September 2013 16: 51
          This era will end when rockets fly from Siberia on phasington ...
      2. S_mirnov
        +6
        16 September 2013 12: 31
        Quote: starshina78
        Would rather fall apart! You look then they will not bark so much to the whole world!

        Then China will begin to "bark", and it is generally at our side, they do not even need to cross the ocean. How the collapse of the United States will backfire for the Russian economy (tied to the dollar) is generally difficult to predict.
        The solution in this situation is not to shake foreign states (or even fall under their rubble), but to create your own strong state in the post-Soviet space. A state oriented towards protecting the interests of its own citizens, a state of power of the People. Then the unification process will go!
        In the meantime, alas, think for yourself why Ukrainian oligarchs unite with Russian oligarchs or Kazakhs? They are all well and good.
      3. +1
        16 September 2013 20: 55
        Quote: starshina78
        Referendum and everything texas is independent of washington


        There was a petition from Texas. Got more than 100.000 signatures on the site https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/

        Something has not come out yet.
    6. +2
      16 September 2013 13: 51
      We were not going to fall apart either, dialectics however ...
  2. Valery Neonov
    +4
    16 September 2013 07: 18
    Quote: serge-68-68
    They live happily ever after and are not going to fall apart.

    Once they fall apart, you can, after all, "push" that would fall apart quickly ... feel

    In America, as in "The Wizard of the Emerald City" or "The Wizard of Oz" everyone took off their green glasses and saw everything in real light ... hi
    1. +2
      16 September 2013 07: 40
      an art duet from curator Mamin and artist Denis Saunin settled on the concept of “Russia - Nevalyashka. Vanka-Vstanka Country ”, which was offered by a marketer from Moscow Vitaliy Saburov
      300 tr gave. for this "national idea". Rave. We haven't found it yet, but we need it. While it is not there, they will promote the idea of ​​consumption. LGBT, I believe, at the moment, anti-globalism can become a national idea cementing the nation. In the course of the next one will be formed.
      1. ksandr45
        0
        16 September 2013 09: 26
        Anti-globalism and access to the stars. hi
        1. 0
          16 September 2013 11: 52
          Quote: ksandr45
          Anti-globalism and access to the stars.

          These are two conflicting concepts, in order to reach the stars you need to be united.
        2. eplewke
          +2
          16 September 2013 13: 32
          Obama is Gorbachev 2 "return" ... Finally, the evil empire has come to an end!
      2. +2
        16 September 2013 10: 30
        Quote: a52333
        at the moment, anti-globalism may become a national idea cementing a nation.

        Can not. We do not live in a socialist country, unfortunately. Remember at least the pathological desire in the WTO. The national idea cannot contradict state policy. The current state system does not imply any national ideas, therefore no one can find it. Look at Europe - where are the national ideas? And the United States will soon blow off its idea, or rather, it will transform itself, shrinking from a national American to a standard inherent in any consumer society.
  3. +18
    16 September 2013 07: 45
    from the Don.
    In my opinion, the meaning of the existence of Russia consists in a constant battle for justice on Earth!
    1. +1
      16 September 2013 10: 46
      It seems to me "independence and justice" is more accurate.
    2. me
      me
      0
      16 September 2013 16: 38
      Do you think Russians are special? Remember what Putin said in an appeal to amers.
  4. Paul 23rus
    +2
    16 September 2013 07: 53
    I remember as a child I read the prediction (I don’t remember whose) that America would fall apart on the 44th president. It’s not long to wait, we hope that it will come true ...
    1. Belogor
      +5
      16 September 2013 08: 14
      Edgar Cayce predicted that the 44th US president would be the last ...
      Casey predicted a gigantic global cataclysm. As for America, he predicted, in particular, that New York, Connecticut and the entire east coast of the United States would shake so that they simply disappear from the face of the earth. Some of his prophecies concerned events of world significance that came true. In his prophecies, Casey predicted the start and end dates of the 1st World War, then he also accurately predicted the start and end of the 2nd World War. They predicted and called the years of the “Great American Depression”: 1929-1933. Even described in detail the panic on the exchanges.
      1. Sadikoff
        +4
        16 September 2013 09: 02
        It will be so, it was not only Casey who spoke, by cross comparisons with others, it is. December 21, 12 has passed, but this does not mean that there will be no global changes, but it will affect Russia less than others. They recall the Mormons, they have in their charter that everyone should create reserves for six months of autonomous life, in NZ. So there are also state strategic reserves. I recommend to every sane person to start a house in the village for logistics.
      2. +2
        16 September 2013 10: 10
        "Edgar Cayce predicted that the 44th President of the United States will be the last ..." After the 44th, there will be the 1st Fuhrer! stop
  5. 0
    16 September 2013 07: 54
    It seems that there was no author in America, and if there was, then Brighton Beach did not go further. His views on things are reminiscent of the idea of ​​the average "scoop" about America, well, maybe adjusted for modern news read on the Russian-language Internet. He would write better about what he understands, if there are such objects. The article is a bold minus.
    1. Vashestambid3
      -1
      16 September 2013 09: 10
      Quote: Nagan
      It seems that there was no author in America, and if there was, then Brighton Beach did not go further. His views on things are reminiscent of the idea of ​​the average "scoop" about America, well, maybe adjusted for modern news read on the Russian-language Internet. He would write better about what he understands, if there are such objects. The article is a bold minus.


      I totally agree smile Are you tired of writing weekly or even daily articles? laughing for 15 years they have been whining that America does not let them live quietly !! LOL smile
      1. Toporkoff
        +4
        16 September 2013 10: 24
        Write an article. as it really is, if you live in the states.
        1. +7
          16 September 2013 11: 49
          He cannot write an article "As is", otherwise he will have to go into hiding just like Snowden and ask for political asylum.
        2. +1
          16 September 2013 19: 33
          Quote: Toporkoff
          Write an article. as it really is, if you live in the states.

          There is neither mood nor time to write an article. In short, America will not fall apart, as long as the Americans themselves, without any compulsion, buy American flags at their own expense and hang them on their homes. And not on the occasion of the holiday, but every day. If the inhabitants of prosperous white suburbs and, to put it mildly, not too prosperous towns populated by not too white people, are at least somewhat united, then this is exactly what.
          Have you seen many tricolors posted private individuals, well, even if not on weekdays and not on "ordinary" holidays, but on the most seemingly patriotic Victory Day? Although I personally think that on this day it is not even the tricolor that should be hung out, but the red flag under which the Great Victory was won. But this is not about that, but about the fact that the Americans are very patriotic, and to change this, a simple jump in gasoline prices, and even an economic crisis, like the one in 2008, is not enough.
          1. +3
            16 September 2013 22: 06
            hanging flags is all external, ostentatious as an American smile. The main thing to be a patriot is inside (I think this is real)
            1. Alex US
              0
              17 September 2013 18: 56
              https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=547058871997673&id=10000080695
              3597
  6. Paul 23rus
    +2
    16 September 2013 07: 54
    found this edgar casey was
  7. +1
    16 September 2013 07: 56
    I agree that the beneficiaries are the so-called "orthodox" (or, more honestly and easier to say, nationalist-radical) forces of Israel. And the excuses on their part are babble.
  8. +1
    16 September 2013 08: 07
    It will not fall apart for a long time, unfortunately (if not pushing), inform PR, the restriction of bureaucracy (just to harass those who have real estate abroad), study, if not strange, our brains should work here.
  9. +3
    16 September 2013 08: 08
    Judging by how people in the United States begin to protest against modern US policies, as well as serious discontent in a number of states with the economic situation and the decline in their social level, the United States may well fall apart into separate states. They destroyed the USSR - so the boomerang will return!
    1. +11
      16 September 2013 08: 38
      Quote: Egoza
      The United States may well fall into separate states. They destroyed the USSR - so the boomerang will return!


      All the time, the United States was driven by one goal - the destruction of the USSR and the entire socialist camp. Having achieved their goal, the United States weakened itself.having lost motivation and having established hegemony throughout the world, the United States was left alone with itself, turning from a multi-polar world into one polar. The progressive development of a state depends primarily from competitionThe USA never considered China as a serious rival. The USSR was seen as an enemy. No matter how paradoxically my idea is, it is the revival of Russia that will help the United States resist. I didn’t make a reservation; historically, the USSR was the main competitor to the USSR and now the successor of Russia. And that means strengthening of Russia and its prosperity will serve as an incentive for its development and save the United States from agony.
      1. Vashestambid3
        -3
        16 September 2013 09: 16
        Quote: Apollon
        All the time, the United States moved one goal-the destruction of the USSR
        Well, yes, starting in 1788, when they wrote in the constitution a plan for the destruction of the social camp !! lol Hey wait, then the USSR did not exist !! How then? ... LOL smile
        1. +3
          16 September 2013 10: 01
          Quote: Vashestambid3
          Well, yes, starting from the 1788 of the year when they wrote in the constitution a plan for the destruction of the social camp !! Hey wait, then the USSR did not exist !! How then? ... LO



          Teach history, this is not the first time that Russia has saved the United States.
          1. Baboon
            +2
            16 September 2013 11: 55
            Well, what were they like before? But Britain didn’t give us rest, why shouldn’t they spoil them in return?
        2. +4
          16 September 2013 11: 57
          Quote: Vashestambid3
          then the USSR did not exist !! How then?

          If you know the history within the framework of the American school (the impression is in the form of delirium), then I can explain that the USSR is one of the forms of government in Russia along with Kievan Rus, the Russian Empire, and the Russian Federation at the present time. changed over the centuries.
      2. +5
        16 September 2013 09: 22
        All is correct. History has the property of repeating in one form or another. Unless in the last at least the millennium there has always been one thing: Russia’s confrontation against the encroachments of various kinds of applicants for world domination or at least for Russian lands. The Tatar-Mongols, Lithuanians, Poles, Germans have repeatedly, Swedes, the British (usually not directly, but through puppets), Japanese. Well, where are they all? Russia every time, like a phoenix, rises from the ashes, and aggressors become ordinary states. Now here is America. We look forward to repeating it.
        1. Baboon
          +2
          16 September 2013 11: 58
          Only in the 20th century Russia has suffered such material and human damage, and indeed all the states that were with us. So it’s getting worse and worse.
  10. sheih_merden
    +8
    16 September 2013 08: 18
    PS.S .: And what is the meaning of the existence of Russia, its national idea, without which no country will last long?


    I will answer the author; The national idea of ​​Russia by default are; - EDUCATION, CREATION, CONSENT. The fact is that we are already realizing this national idea, and our ancestors embodied and our descendants will embody and the great Russian thinkers always support us in this. Gogol N.V. spoke especially well, and Pushkin, too, and Dostoevsky.

    I do not accept variants of the National Idea, in which, in different versions and definitions, they are considered to fill up the belly, to rot up neighbors, to become the main godfather, etc., etc.

    The national idea of ​​Russia should be the basis for the existence of the entire earthly civilization in general, and then everything else will follow by itself.
    1. VDV 80-82
      +1
      16 September 2013 08: 37
      not bad idea! but why then will the authorities not convey it to the people in intelligible form?
    2. -1
      16 September 2013 08: 59
      Quote: sheih_merden
      The fact is that we are already realizing this national idea

      In Russia, according to the latest census, there are more than 200 nationalities.
      It would be interesting to know - what ideas of a nation are we already embodying?
      1. true love
        +5
        16 September 2013 09: 34
        Russia has always been multinational and at the same time remained Russia. Russians, as bearers of ideology, have not gone anywhere. I have a friend, he is Armenian by nationality, was born in Moscow, graduated from MGIMO, trained in Egypt, works in a bank ... So he considers himself Russian and is very worried about everything that happens to HIS Motherland, Russia. Nationality is a diagnosis! A person of any nationality can be in any capacity - a hero or a murderer, a traitor or a winner. We must stop thinking of a person as someone of a certain nationality. He is either a creator or a destroyer of himself and everyone around him. Stalin was a Georgian and what do we need to idolize all Georgians? Absurd. Stalin was a wise ruler, and the fact that Russia under his leadership won the Second World War, we still cannot forgive the Anglo-Saxons. Anglo-Saxons are not a nationality - they are a diagnosis. And Russian is an adjective and it can be "applied" to any nationality.
        1. +1
          16 September 2013 10: 04
          Quote: true love
          Russia has always been multinational, while remaining Russia


          I almost agree with all of the above.

          And yet, as long as there is such a thing as nationality, there will also be a division along ethnic lines. Stalin called himself Russian Georgian. Many of the USSR associate themselves in the same way, which cannot be said about the current generation ... (24 is enshrined in the constitution of Russia national republics)

          If we talk about a common idea, then not about the idea of, say, one nation that has flooded all the media and imposing "our" idea on us, but about the Russian civilizational idea - Russian civilization.

          (all words have a certain meaning. if you want to be understood correctly, degenerate with words uniquely understandable to everyone)
          1. true love
            +3
            16 September 2013 12: 48
            Belinsky said the best about the concept of "Russian" (unfortunately, I cannot quote, I forgot. But the essence is this: Russian is a mentality, a state of mind, a kind of awareness, conviction. JUSTICE), and there is nothing to add here. And the concept of Russian civilization is the concept of JUSTICE.
      2. Baboon
        +1
        16 September 2013 12: 02
        In fact, the world is full of multinational states, and they live normally, nations simply complement each other. If you try to seek out directly the idea of ​​a specific nation, this is nationalism, so far Russia will certainly not go so far.
    3. true love
      +1
      16 September 2013 09: 19
      Without God it is very difficult to follow the national idea in the head. Whatever she is.
    4. +3
      16 September 2013 10: 14
      The values ​​of enlightenment, creation, harmony are important, but more for Western Europe. I agree with those who support the priority for Russia of truth, justice and conscience, which determine the self-determination of the Russian people, their mission. At the same time, it must be borne in mind that the question of a national idea is a question of the hierarchy of values. For a believer, God is the highest value, and then the value of the Motherland should be. Therefore, for a non-believer, the highest value should be love for the Motherland. All other values ​​are secondary, because, when cultivated excessively, absolutized values ​​can turn into damage to the interests of the motherland. Therefore, our national idea: love for the motherland, activities for its benefit on the basis of justice, truth and conscience.
      1. true love
        0
        16 September 2013 15: 01
        Any person is a believer. Even if he is an atheist, he believes that there is no God. A reasonable person questions everything and tests in practice what is and what is not, after which actions certain consequences will follow. A person following spiritual practice understands that nationality is limited, this is the rope connecting him with the clan mentality. To be Russian means to be above national dogma.
    5. Asan Ata
      +1
      16 September 2013 20: 13
      Very general, no targeting. Personally, I believe that a national idea is a model of a society in which one would like to live. Paradoxically, as a Kazakh, I am satisfied with two ideas for Kazakhstan - one Soviet, the second fascist: "Man to man is a friend, comrade, brother" and "Kazakhstan is above all." The first creates an internal comfortable climate, the second gives a shock to aggressors and enemies. I think that for you Russians, this is also suitable.
      1. 0
        18 September 2013 05: 51
        And what about the idea: separately we are weak, our strength is in unity? "Kazakhstan is above all" - why not, but Kazakhstan will only win in unity with Russia and always won. This is my opinion. Sovereign and independent Kazakhstan is someone who needs it, small nationalists, yes, no real Kazakh patriots.
        1. Asan Ata
          +1
          18 September 2013 08: 49
          Union indestructible republics of free. Of course, mutual respect, back to back.
  11. +9
    16 September 2013 08: 40
    Tell me the American, what is the strength! Is it in the money? So the brother says that in money. You have a lot of money, and why? I think that power is in the truth: whoever has the truth is stronger! So you deceived someone, made money, and why - have you become stronger? No, I didn’t, because there is no truth for you! And the one whom he deceived is behind him the truth! So he is stronger!
    BROTHER 2
    1. +2
      16 September 2013 12: 08
      + + +
      In the battle for Syria, Russia won a local victory, and much can still change there. But the main thing is that Russia, being weaker than the United States in the military and economic sense, gained the upper hand relying on the principle of "Truth is power". And this will have long lasting consequences. Well, for example, in the west, ordinary people will become more and more interested in and trust RT and other Russian media. At the same time, there is no need to spend frenzied funds on intrusive propaganda. The audience has already matured there. And within a few years Russia may have a powerful lever of pressure to the west.
  12. +7
    16 September 2013 08: 51
    The article is good. Put a plus. But again, the Jews are to blame. I believe that the "puppeteers" do not identify themselves with any nation. They are always supranational. As a result, the Jewish people will be disposed of as having fulfilled their task and are no longer needed.

    I consider the meaning of the existence of Russia to be truth (for the peoples living in our country this has always been an important aspect, justice, conscience and much more fit into the position of truth), creation, example and guideline for all other peoples of the world (this has been shown more than once in the history of the world , and now the same thing is observed: for an adequate European we are now, as the holder of family values).
  13. +2
    16 September 2013 09: 10
    The catastrophic destruction of the United States such as the USSR is generally undesirable. Too many are tied to them now, especially in the global economy. According to this, the fragments of this colossus, if not on clay feet, but not on reinforced concrete ones, can fill many people in the world. But smooth stagnation to the level of Canada or Australia is already an option. It seems that people do not live badly, but the threat to peace is minimal.
    1. +2
      16 September 2013 09: 23
      This requires a new reserve currency. Yuan is actively preparing for this.
    2. 0
      16 September 2013 09: 43
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      The catastrophic destruction of the United States such as the USSR is generally undesirable. Too many are tied to them now, especially in the global economy. According to this, the fragments of this colossus, if not on clay feet, but not on reinforced concrete ones, can fill many people in the world. But smooth stagnation to the level of Canada or Australia is already an option. It seems that people do not live badly, but the threat to peace is minimal.

      I agree with you! good America must stay. But its views and principles must change. In accordance with the precepts of Martin Luther King and the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen, as the "founding fathers" of the United States wrote. But for this it will apparently be necessary that the American people planted on the peak of the Washington hawks, and half of the US Congress. And it won't work otherwise. The reactionary forces in America hold power and money tightly. In short, the states need a revolution!
      PS Something died out rumors about the branch of Texas. Maybe the initiators of the process are already buried in plastic coffins, in accordance with "US democratic policy"?
  14. +1
    16 September 2013 09: 36
    Article minus. I dumped everything in a heap. The main idea of ​​the article is expressed in the title. And there are a few lines at the end and everything else, as the saying goes, water for volume. The topic is not disclosed, but it's a pity, because in principle Skif is right. But the emphasis is not on personal memories had to be done, but how it all began and how the project developed, starting from the 17th century, at least briefly. It would be much more interesting and then it would be something to talk about. And so ...
  15. 0
    16 September 2013 09: 37
    According to Putin’s behavior, it’s clear that Russia is primarily for observing world law, this is a national idea, we will always be on the side of law. We are right - that means we will win.
  16. +3
    16 September 2013 09: 57
    Quote: serge-68-68
    ... They live happily ever after and are not going to fall apart.


    The FBI is about to go home for a full week, the Pentagon is about to fire almost a million employees, many programs to develop weapons, families, because of debts, are being rolled out, tens of thousands of people are thrown out of their homes a month, etc. etc.
    Is this something "singing along"?
    As for "not going to", the aforementioned FBI, the Pentagon and families also did not intend to live worse.
    The United States defeated the social camp on credit. Now it's time to return the money. But there’s nothing to pay.
  17. +3
    16 September 2013 10: 29
    Quote: 755962
    And what is the meaning of the existence of Russia, its national idea, without which no country will last long?


    Plus a million dollars, as my friend puts it. Let's start with ourselves, with the upbringing of our children, you see, after two or three generations, it will be possible in the bulk of the people to form contempt for money-grubbing, the desire to chop off more than is necessary for living, and through this - a rejection of bribes, from where - resistance to offers "emissaries of free countries" and so on. I give out pink glasses for free, :-) but the course is clear for myself.
    1. true love
      +1
      16 September 2013 15: 07
      "To form a contempt for money-grubbing" is not possible without an all-consuming idea. What is this idea? As long as a person thinks that there is nothing after death, he will constantly desire "for himself a loved one ...".
  18. Vityaz68
    +3
    16 September 2013 10: 41
    YES PEOPLE, A GREAT ERROR WE MADE WHEN THE USSR COLLAPSED. We are the EASTERN PEOPLES.
    COMMUNISM IS A THING EASTERNALLY EASTERN AND ARTICALLY RUSSIAN. AMERICOS DARK TO DECEIVE US.
    And FOR THE USA - LET DECLINE AND DECAY, HELL THEM!
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  22. +4
    16 September 2013 11: 03
    RUSSIA is the design of GOD, that is, for what it exists in the world. Understanding this plan and embodying it in your life is the duty of every Orthodox person.
    GO RUSSIA WITH US GOD !!!
  23. +4
    16 September 2013 11: 12
    And what is the meaning of the existence of Russia, its national idea, without which no country will last long?

    The meaning of the existence of Russia is life in good conscience (rightly, God is not in power, but in truth) only when citizens trust their leaders, when the conditions are the same for everyone, when one for all and all for one.
    And he seeks the meaning of life, only one who does not see this who has no conscience.
  24. +6
    16 September 2013 11: 17
    I will not be lazy and repeat:

    "... Russia is not human dust and not chaos. It is, first of all, a great people who did not squander their forces and did not despair in their vocation. This people is starving for free order, for peaceful labor, for property and for national culture. bury him prematurely!

    The historic hour will come, he will rise from an imaginary coffin and claim back his rights! "
    Ilyin I.A.
  25. Peaceful military
    +3
    16 September 2013 11: 29
    There is a lot of pioneer enthusiasm, but, alas, there is not enough depth of knowledge. From this very superficial, a kind of Darwinist conclusions. Although the article I put +
    Everything is much deeper and more complex. One thing is clear that the reformatting of the Anglo-Saxon empire and goodness awaits us, alas it will not bring.
    I again return my colleagues to the study of this very process by M. Leontiev - "The Big Game":
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWBo9mEOiaU
    By the way, I especially recommend the author to this author to broaden his horizons.
    I also recommend A. Fursov to everyone. He delved into this topic very well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXtbATyGZpU&list=PL8D020338B76CBA8E
    Have a good week friends!smilehi
  26. +2
    16 September 2013 11: 34
    Quote: true love
    Russia has always been multinational and at the same time remained Russia. Russians, as bearers of ideology, have not gone anywhere. I have a friend, he is Armenian by nationality, was born in Moscow, graduated from MGIMO, trained in Egypt, works in a bank ... So he considers himself Russian and is very worried about everything that happens to HIS Motherland, Russia. Nationality is a diagnosis! A person of any nationality can be in any capacity - a hero or a murderer, a traitor or a winner. We must stop thinking of a person as someone of a certain nationality. He is either a creator or a destroyer of himself and everyone around him. Stalin was a Georgian and what do we need to idolize all Georgians? Absurd. Stalin was a wise ruler, and the fact that Russia under his leadership won the Second World War, we still cannot forgive the Anglo-Saxons. Anglo-Saxons are not a nationality - they are a diagnosis. And Russian is an adjective and it can be "applied" to any nationality.


    But in order for the Armenian, Chechen, Tajik to feel Russian, one needs to be introduced to the general culture, language, mentality, if you take Russian as in Ukraine and hamper that he is Ukrainian, give him opposite ideas and he all became Ukrainian, an hour even Russians begin to isolate themselves in Siberians, Far Easterners, and what can we say about nationality.
    The state has long had to do something with national politics, otherwise we won’t multiply the lost territories, but we won’t save Russia in the form that exists now. Here is one of the directions of the national idea.
    A country in which the state-forming nation is not respected, and other countries are not respected, may be in this crisis with Ukraine and Belarus.
    1. true love
      +1
      16 September 2013 15: 40
      Everything is much simpler. As the ancients said - "start with yourself." Until each citizen realizes his personal responsibility for his own destiny, it is practically impossible to convey to him the idea of ​​"global goodness". Jesus said: - "Save yourself and thousands will be saved by your side." Why are there so many at the forum who sympathize with Putin? Because he is a leader? Before that, there were many "leaders", but few fans, only critics. So why are we so sympathetic to Putin? Does he "collect" the Great Empire? Because he is able to talk without aspiration with the leaders of the United States, Britain, Germany and hedgehogs with them? For the fact that he is ready to revive the army and navy? Probably more to our liking that he, in spite of the "swamp" brotherhood, says that the Caucasus is a part of Russia, and the bandits "we will soak in the toilet" and no matter what nationality he is. He is a Russian leader! And most importantly, he has a team! You can't do it alone. So much for the national idea. Without a leader, it may not exist at all, even if it is on everyone's lips!
  27. +3
    16 September 2013 11: 35
    Article "About nothing". I hope the author sees my opinion.
    Hmm ... Generation Snickers are trying to strain their brains. Does not work. He never had Soviet in his Consciousness. Can't earn money HONESTY.
    And, most importantly - the complete absence of logic. I'm sorry. The article is empty. With respect.
  28. +3
    16 September 2013 12: 18
    Normal essay.
    Read interesting.
    ..
    Here is another annoying me. And why are you all, as an investment in a bank, trying exactly to calculate - what is the meaning of the existence of America, Russia?
    Such a calculation is essentially meaningless.
    Man is born to die. No one, for some reason, at least 300 years did not live.
    At the same time - a person must - at least try to make life better. And, even when we translate the granny across the street, the soul becomes cleaner.
    How many states, powers, empires or Reichs were there ... there? Everyone completed their cycle. Differently.
    The same will be with the USA. Dates - not determined.
    And here is Russia ....
    Russia-this is something .. obscure. In common terms. As a state, the state arose and collapsed many times. Those. stubbornly demonstrated all the laws of dialectics. At the same time, I note, other territories also demonstrate. But - they have no such territory as Russia.
    My opinion, purely my opinion ... Russia is a kind of battery for the WORLD. A kind of - a source of backup revival.
    After all, remember .... Russia is an eternal irritant for everyone. The eternal engine of progress.
    But worth it.
    And it will stand.
    This is the historical mission of Russia.
    I think so.
    ...
    ..
    Yes. And, in my opinion, the most significant.
    I was not in vain stressed about the territory. As long as Russia has it, there is Russia.
    Therefore, the primary task, the national idea is to preserve the integrity of Russia.
    1. true love
      +1
      16 September 2013 15: 47
      Russia is the soul of the planet. Therefore, the Western materialists are eager to destroy it. After all, when there is a Soul of the World, it is very difficult to do disgusting things, there is always someone nearby who, by his presence alone, will say that you cannot be called a person if you live an animal life.
  29. true love
    +1
    16 September 2013 12: 31
    Quote: Ossetian.
    RUSSIA is the design of GOD, that is, for what it exists in the world. Understanding this plan and embodying it in your life is the duty of every Orthodox person.
    GO RUSSIA WITH US GOD !!!


    I would correct you ... the duty of every person of any faith. The main thing is a believer in God!
  30. olviko
    +2
    16 September 2013 12: 31
    "In fact, there is no longer any sense in the existence of the United States, because this country has already lost its inner meaning."

    Dear, how could you write this? A nightmare !!! Where will we keep our stabilization fund? Unhappy Europe! Who will take her poodles for a walk, to all sorts of Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, etc. And you thought about Israel that after such words the God-chosen people may say ... collective diarrhea. In the states, over there, from a single letter from Putin, Senator Robert Menendez, she began to feel sick, and McCain was generally worried about the mental abilities of every American. Write another article about future prospects, taking into account the comments made, and this article is a plus.
  31. sheih_merden
    0
    16 September 2013 12: 33
    Strange, it gives a message that "the message contains text that is not valid for publication", and it was not possible to post a comment on Alex66's comment. I just wrote about conscience, truth and justice. Maybe some phrase seems unacceptable to someone.

    So what?
  32. chushoj
    -1
    16 September 2013 13: 17
    When the "boss" offers a subordinate to quit because the "boss" saw a more needed person on the horizon, then all this is perceived as normal.
    Today this idea of ​​the "boss" is understandable and familiar to everyone, but not to me.
    Talking about "the violinist is not needed" when it comes to the whole country of the United States, it does not fit into any framework. It's not even genocide anymore.
  33. +3
    16 September 2013 13: 34
    It’s interesting that Malchish - Kibalchish about bourgeois cookies - tell me jam.

    I’ll say that you don’t give a damn about bourgeois sweets.
    1. +3
      16 September 2013 13: 45
      The jam with the cookies is over. There were crackers.

      Food stamps are handed out in the USA, and stratification in society has reached record levels
      "... At the moment in the United States, over 47,7 million citizens live according to the rationing system, which was so actively criticized in the USSR. This exceeds the total population of Spain (47,3 million), Ukraine (44,5 million), Argentina ( 42,6 million), Poland (38,3 million), Canada (34,5 million) and Iraq (31,8 million) ... "

      the entire text: http://79.111.164.190/page.php?id=223
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  35. +2
    16 September 2013 13: 53
    belay
    Foul written. The author DREAMED about cocoa. And there was only tap water, which they did not have time to drink to the end. And crackers.
    PS Now, I suppose, goes everywhere with a thermos with "hot chocolate", that is - cocoa.
    negative
  36. georg737577
    -1
    16 September 2013 14: 01
    Obviously, the author of "Snickers" did not finish it in childhood ... Tragedy, of course (sorry for the guy), but not a reason to write articles.
  37. 0
    16 September 2013 14: 56
    the meaning of the Soviet Union is to build a just state of free people, to build socialism, and subsequently, communism.
    ...
    Then gradually the ideals of socialism gradually ceased to believe at the top
    ...
    The meaning was taken out of the country and it crumbled.

    Just like that, milestones of a long way !!! .... For propaedeutics of the history course in the 3rd grade of the school. And the conclusion is
    betrayal of its ideals (meaning of existence) leads to the weakening of states, the death of countries and peoples.
    With all due respect to the author ...
    The country lost the idea, and hence the base in 1917. The rest is natural.

    In America ...

    The term "American Dream" means personal success at all costs.
    Well that's not true. Most of American society has had spiritual restrictions, and there are no cliches about the unloved ...
    Nowadays, states are rapidly turning into a police state.- from the same opera.
    The country's intelligence services began to work "deeper and wider" ... Ours would not hurt to work the same way (I would feel much calmer. The "bogies" would have dried up even at the zygote stage, on the "rush-guantanoma" on the Solovetsky Islands for such as McCain is ready to donate ...

    ...

    It is possible that the states simply fall apart and instead appear Northern Mexico, the Texas Republic, ....

    I, like you, = FOR !!!, but who will ask us that!
  38. 0
    16 September 2013 15: 05
    I read about KakaVU - I immediately remembered Bumbarash laughing
  39. +2
    16 September 2013 15: 55
    In order to draw the right conclusions, we need the right data, prerequisites and a clear understanding of the causes and effects.
    In the article, in my opinion, this is just not there.
    Starting with the title, the author begins to replace the real with the desired. What does it mean there is no point in the existence of the USA? But what's the point of existence? Any country, people, humanity? What is the meaning of the existence of man and society. We do not know ... It is not given to us to understand.
    No, at our level we find meanings. But why everything was created on a global scale is not clear.
    Why on earth did the author decide that he could determine the need for the existence of the United States?
    Based on the assertion that the American dream faded, you can certainly make predictions, but if you distort the very meaning of the American dream, then the conclusion will not be true
    The term "American Dream" means personal success at all costs - it is simply a dream of an egoist.

    Actually
    The American dream is the ideal of freedom or opportunity, ..... ... the American dream of a country where everyone’s life will be better, richer and fuller, where everyone will have the opportunity to get what he deserves ......
    Since people are created equal ... then everyone’s life should be better, richer and fuller, with opportunities for everyone in accordance with his abilities or achievements - regardless of social class or circumstances of birth ......
    The concept of the “American dream” is often associated with immigrants who have arrived in the United States in search of a better life. The fact that they were leaving countries where, unlike the United States, there was a rather rigid social system that limited social mobility, determined their commitment to the philosophy of individual freedom and free enterprise. The concept of the American dream is closely connected with the concept of "self-made person", that is, a person who, through hard work, achieved success in life ......
    The components of the “American Dream” are also ideal equality of all before the law, regardless of ethnic origin and social status , ....

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Dreamer


    The author calls all this "the dream of an egoist" Let it be so .... But is it not selfish desires that people strive to live better tomorrow than yesterday? Is it not selfish aspirations that determine the desires for change, career growth, money, power, power and influence that are inherent in Russian industrialists, the Russian elite, Russian rulers, and the population of Russia?
    So for clarity, let's leave selfishness alone.
    Yes, we would like the United States to stop being a superpower, to stop dictating its will to the rest of the world. Yes, the exploitation by the ruling class of America of ideas formulated under the term "American Dream" has led to some loss of confidence in them in the whole world. But nevertheless, at the grassroots level in America itself, these ideas work, and if sensible politicians come to control in the USA, then this state will exist for a long time (unfortunately)
  40. +3
    16 September 2013 16: 14
    One hundred percent agree with the author! I have been living in America for 15 years and have experienced all this fake freedom more than once in my own skin.
  41. +1
    16 September 2013 18: 49
    Quote: Normal
    What is the meaning of the existence of man and society. We do not know ... It is not given to us to understand.


    In this sense, M. Weller has a good theory, following which, the meaning of human existence, especially society, is in TRANSFORMATION until entropy reaches zero.
    T.ch. Based on this, the United States is what we need !!!
    1. +1
      16 September 2013 21: 38
      Quote: Chen
      In this sense, M. Weller has a good theory


      "General theory of everything", if I'm not mistaken ....
      The theory is interesting and quite convincing, but just a theory ....
      If we assume that man was created for the final reorganization of the world up to the new "Big Bang", then the creation of a single state under the control of a world government is a necessary stage. But if God created man for this action, then this action is beyond the power of God himself. Some kind of contradiction ...
      Quote: Chen
      T.ch. Based on this, the United States is what we need !!!


      Not at all necessary. Maybe the United States is just one of many empires in the history of mankind. Maybe the United States is not intended to become a world state? If they say, wait and see ... If we survive ....
  42. Asan Ata
    +2
    16 September 2013 20: 27
    States live exploiting the ball. Protest moods in the world are gradually depriving them of food, but this is not the reason that will cease to exist. I think, building their socialism (35% of the US budget goes to benefits), the Americans are at a standstill. Do not feed - it is impossible, there will be a revolution, feed - paper is not enough to print money. The future of the United States, and very soon - a civil war, as it is not sad. Why is it sad? Yes, because in America there are a lot of normal people, they fought in World War II, they are engineers, scientists, musicians, and so on. But they do not rule, they are bent just as the whole ball.
  43. -1
    16 September 2013 20: 34
    We have sugar on coupons, nothing but sprats and birch juice in the store

    Well, 2 91 we didn’t have any coupons anyway, about birch sap it’s all nonsense
    Another option: America finally discards its democratic masquerade and builds a “normal”, legally formalized system of the kind described in Star Troopers.
    and after reading this, the interest in the article has generally faded away, it’s interesting that HePlayn Heinlain read? !!!
    1. 0
      16 September 2013 21: 01
      Read, read. Actually, "Starship Troopers" and the story was also a bonus, I don't remember the name, but there a group of teenagers to pass the adult exam ends up on an uninhabited planet, the connection is interrupted and the young Robinsons are trying to survive. And Starship Troopers describe the police state, terribly militarized and unpleasant. I kind of talk about it.
      1. +1
        16 September 2013 22: 05
        Quote: FC Skif
        A star landing describes a police state, terribly militarized and unpleasant

        Apparently, they either didn’t read or understand, the police society as well as the militarized there is not at all, in the society described by the author, only those who served in the army had the right to vote
        1. +1
          16 September 2013 22: 56
          Well, one of us did not read this book, but it is on my shelf. Sincerely.
          1. +1
            16 September 2013 23: 27
            I have a medical encyclopedia on my shelf, this does not mean that I carefully read it all
  44. HERMAJOR4IK
    +2
    16 September 2013 21: 41
    you know, I don’t like America, but I respect and never scum) America is, in the full sense of the word, a world empire a direct modern analogue of the Roman empire since its heyday and the beginning of sunset)) the Romans also let in a bunch of migrants and dispersed into them like a strong nation ) the army also recruited barbarians because they didn’t want to serve because it was possible to get a warmer on a citizen) then all sorts of alien horseradish began to become emperors (see USA and Obama) in general the USA follows the path of the Roman Empire) would learn better from her rather on her mistakes ) And even such a moment is pinned on me by the majority of ardent anti-bombers eating and praising something from American food, hamburgers, cheeseburgers, french fries, hot dogs, all kinds of chikens, or go to the VKontakte page and there almost all of the playlist is clogged by Western performers; these observators are hanging jeans drooling delight in American computer games) and, on occasion, forget about their urapatriotism and are not averse to the opportunity to merge into this fucking school), but I don’t want to be ordinary) and the local marshal, too)) in general, the United States has great culture and literature in terms of classics not worse than ours, but I don’t speak about show business so glimpses of a grain of gold on the heap (_) and in the USA you know) Kobzon is no match for Elvis Presley and Pugachev Tine Turner but there is a chile project, for example) and most Americans are good guys and girls are sure) against the war in Syria more than 60 percent of the US population) it’s good to unite with them in the fight against the invasion of migrants by these barbarians of the new era so that they do not ruin our great European-American civilization and do not overthrow the civilized world in the new dark Middle Ages)
    1. Asan Ata
      0
      17 September 2013 00: 09
      If you delve into your story, you will be surprised to find that many of your esteemed heroes are not titular, but, as you say, there will be migrants. As for European-American civilization, they won’t let you on the doorstep, you are a migrant just like everyone else.
      And on creativity I would argue. Kobzon is certainly not Elvis, but he also has a different role. But Pugacheva Tina and the floor would not take. She, though Jewish, is ours, Russian.
      1. HERMAJOR4IK
        0
        17 September 2013 14: 55
        migrants, to migrants, hatred, I spoke out about chock (chocks are a certain circle of nationalities, by the way, is it interesting to you or not, but I don’t have Kazakhs among them, I have a Kazakh wife and Kazakhs don’t ride jeeps in the center of Moscow and they don’t shoot their heads in the center of Moscow so a small remark) and among my esteemed heroes chock migrants excuse me not observed
        1. Asan Ata
          +1
          17 September 2013 22: 25
          Take a closer look at your story. Once they called Pushkin chock and Lermontov Scottish roots, Alexander Nevsky was related to Batu, Bagration from the Georgian princes, Alexander Matrosov Bashkirs, but how many of them, the heroes who glorified Russia, Russia, the USSR, and again, Russia? I’m talking about: not to sow discord among compatriots, but to find that common, for which they will give all their lives.
  45. +1
    16 September 2013 22: 33
    The title of the article:
    There is no point in the further existence of the USA

    Without going into arguments about how "America feels", I will note (and this is my personal-subjective assessment) that the United States is becoming a kind of "tool" in the hands of states capable of paying for the services of a "bouncer" in order to achieve their own economic, religious, political and other interests.
    That's the point ...
    1. +1
      16 September 2013 22: 57
      I have in P.S. There is something on this subject.
  46. +1
    17 September 2013 00: 58
    Quote: S_mirnov today 12:31, _130916 / pon
    Quote: starshina78
    Would rather fall apart! You look then they will not bark so much to the whole world!

    Then China will begin to "bark", and it is generally at our side, they do not even need to cross the ocean. How the collapse of the United States will backfire for the Russian economy (tied to the dollar) is generally difficult to predict.
    The way out in this situation is not to shatter foreign states (or even fall under their rubble), and in creating your own strong state in the post-Soviet space. A state oriented towards protecting the interests of its own citizens, a state of power of the People. Then the unification process will go!
    In the meantime, alas, think for yourself why Ukrainian oligarchs unite with Russian oligarchs or Kazakhs? They are all well and good.

    Good evening, dear Alexander! I agree with you completely. good

    On my own behalf, I will add that the "world of cash and money chase / for the most part strangers, by stealing" imposed on us to the Soviet people is like a plague for us! The sooner we return to our HUMAN principles, laid down both on the good units from the socialism of the USSR and on the Orthodox orders, the better it will be for us all and we will quickly UNITE.
    And to all of us together, no enemies and constantly unsatisfied "world government" will not be dangerous! good

    On the topic of faith in God, forum users said well on a different branch, forgot his name, which is when evaluating the activities of political officers in the Second World War "there were no atheists under the shelling"!

    In addition to you, many members of the forum have expressed very good ideas and thoughts, with which I agree without hesitation.
    It's good that we are all here exchanging thoughts and learning from each other. After all, it is written in the Scripture "man does not live by bread alone"! good