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"Kurganmashzavod" began mass production of 18-SAI 2С31 "Vienna" ordered by Azerbaijan

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"Kurganmashzavod" began mass production of 18-SAI 2С31 "Vienna" ordered by Azerbaijan



The 2C31 ACS “Vienna” was first presented at the IDEX-97 arms exhibition as early as the 90s, but there was no customer for this very advanced development for its time. Serially, “Vienna” was not produced, several machines were located in various test centers in the Russian Federation, although there were reports of the delivery to the Armed Forces of the installation party.

But it seems that “the ice has broken” and “Kurganmashzavod” began mass production of 18-SAU ordered by Azerbaijan.

Earlier, Russia has already begun supplying a new batch of military equipment to Azerbaijan, which includes Tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and artillery.



According to Vedomosti sources, the contracts provide for the supply of X-NUMX T-94 tanks, approximately X-NUMX infantry combat vehicles BMP-90, 100 self-propelled artillery Msta-S, 3 launchers of multiple launch rocket systems Smerch, same self-propelled artillery mounts artillery guns "Vienna" and six heavy flamethrower systems TOC-18A "Solntsepek". At the same time, along with tanks and artillery, all the vehicles necessary for their maintenance are purchased.

2С31 “Vienna” is a Russian 120-mm self-propelled artillery gun mounted on the BMP-3 chassis. Developed in the city of Perm at Motovilikha plants.

2С31 "Vienna" is designed to suppress live forces, artillery and mortar batteries, rocket launchers, armored targets, fire weapons and control points at a distance of 13 km, while it is able to automatically adjust its fire according to the results of notches, independently carry out reconnaissance of targets during the day and at night, conduct aimed fire from closed positions and direct fire without prior preparation of the firing position.
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  1. Pon69
    Pon69 16 September 2013 06: 36 New
    +6
    And only "Nona-SVK" is mastered in the troops themselves, they shot at Chelbinsk. While the “Kurganets” will be released and the troops will be saturated with some “trays”, we’ll stay
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 16 September 2013 08: 03 New
      +6
      I really like the "veins". Moreover, they say better than the "Hosts." At least as Lopatov explained here.
  2. svp67
    svp67 16 September 2013 07: 28 New
    +1
    According to Vedomosti sources, the contracts provide for the supply of 94 T-90S tanks, approximately 100 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles, 18 Msta-S self-propelled artillery systems, 18 Smerch multiple launch rocket launchers, as many self-propelled artillery guns “Vienna” and six heavy flamethrower systems TOS-1A “Solntsepek”.
    Judging by the quantity and quality, obviously such a grouping may be enough to finally solve the "Karabakh" issue .. Here is the "pain in the neck" for our diplomats ...
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 16 September 2013 10: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      Judging by the quantity and quality, obviously such a grouping may be enough to finally resolve the "Karabakh" issue.

      Given the number and type of purchased MLRS, attack helicopters, this can be done in a short time!
      But the question is different, for anybody it is clear that the start of hostilities is a political issue!
      I think for a long time there is no parity!
      But there is an opinion of countries that influence and want to influence in this region!
      it’s more clear that sooner or later Armenia will have to change its position and go for the liberation of the territories, but the later they do it, the more they will lose!
      1. genisis
        genisis 16 September 2013 14: 40 New
        +1
        Russian-made self-propelled artillery 2С7 "Peony" arrived in Armenia.

        SAU 2S7 "Peony", equipped with a 203,2 mm 2A44 gun, as well as a 12,7 mm NSVT Utes anti-aircraft machine gun and Strela-2 portable anti-aircraft missile system, today remains the most powerful self-propelled artillery mount in the world. The installation is designed to destroy enemy targets in tactical depth relative to the front line.

        Self-propelled guns "Peony" can use fragmentation, high-explosive, active-reactive, nuclear, as well as concrete and chemical shells. The firing range of the installation is up to 37,5 km, and in the case of the use of active rockets - up to 47,5 km. Rate of fire - 2,5 rounds per minute.

        The self-propelled guns "Peony" delivered to Armenia have already managed to take part in the joint military exercises of the Armenian army and the military personnel of the 19nd Russian military base in Alagyaz mountain range from August 24-102.
        1. Apollo
          16 September 2013 15: 26 New
          +2
          Quote: genisis
          Russian-made self-propelled artillery 2С7 "Peony" arrived in Armenia.


          and where in the article we are talking about "peonies" and Armenia fool
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 16 September 2013 23: 36 New
            +5
            Quote: Apollon
            and where in the article we are talking about "peonies" and Armenia


            ... as they say their answer to Chamberlain ..... laughing
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 16 September 2013 16: 07 New
          +4
          Quote: genisis
          Russian-made self-propelled artillery 2С7 "Peony" arrived in Armenia.

          So in Azerbaijan these Pions were heaps))))
          For 2012, even on Wiki 12 or 15 units))))))))
          Scared the hedgehog with a wet booty))))
          And here it’s generally cunningly written * in Armenian * - they arrived in Armenia ... it can also be for the Russian contingent))))))))) so I won’t believe it))
          And why is this weapon to the Armenian region ??
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 16 September 2013 23: 40 New
            +4
            Quote: Yarbay
            And why is this weapon to the Armenian region ??


            ... why why ..... Pion’s gun is great for persecuting Armenian moonshine fellow .... in large quantities, besides)))))
  3. lotar
    lotar 16 September 2013 07: 37 New
    -1
    But I’m wondering what the deliveries will be made at her expense. And lately, it’s more and more heard that we are increasing the export of military equipment, but at the same time, some countries get loans almost free of charge for this very military equipment. I would like to believe that all this equipment does not harm our security.
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 16 September 2013 08: 01 New
      +5
      Unlike other "friends" of Russia, Azerbaijan always pays in cash and on time. Very few buyers of Russian weapons do this.
      1. Apollo
        16 September 2013 08: 21 New
        +7
        Good morning everybody hi
        Quote-2С31 “Vienna” - Russian 120-mm self-propelled artillery gun on the BMP-3 chassis.
        Additional related videos


        Developed in the city of Perm at Motovilikhinsky plants.

        A little about the plant itself
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 16 September 2013 08: 37 New
          +6
          Quote: Apollon
          Quote-2S31 “Vienna” - Russian 120-mm self-propelled artillery gun



          .. we also have NONA .... what's the difference ... the caliber is the same .... NONA-super have shown themselves in Karabakh .... the only difference is the chassis ..... and that's it .... like that can also ride))))))))))
          1. alone
            alone 19 September 2013 23: 06 New
            +2
            hello vurgun! Vienna surpasses even Amos in some respects, not to mention Nona. And yet, Nona is designed for the Airborne Forces, and Vienna fully complies with the requirements of modern conditions of combined arms combat
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 19 September 2013 23: 18 New
              0
              Quote: lonely
              hello vurgun!


              ..good evening !!!! sorry, here my friend Stoik appeared ..))) I waited 3 days for him ... otherwise they turned off the light ... cannot answer smile
              Quote: lonely
              nona is intended for airborne


              I agree! but NONA AND VIENNA still on the battlefield do not go open to the enemy, but use the opportunities from a hidden position ...

              Quote: lonely
              Vienna is fully compliant

              recently, unfortunately, all the new samples of the CIS countries are a continuation of the technological and design solutions laid down in the USSR .. well, they’ll finalize a little something ... well, they will add on different machine guns ... replace the engine with diesel ... and a qualitative breakthrough all no and no .... hi Vienna has the main gun .... so such a gun is on NONE .... the tip, too, as far as I know, is through a traffic light (there are 3 buttons, like a traffic light) .... well, the only difference is probably in the reservation enclosures ... for NONA, an ordinary bullet makes a sieve ..... and then they strengthened it ... that's all .....
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 16 September 2013 08: 35 New
      +6
      Quote: lotar
      But I’m wondering at what expense these deliveries will be made.



      Friend! You do not confuse us with our neighbors laughing we have money in the morning, and in the evening ..-- Vienna .. fellow hi
    3. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 16 September 2013 10: 01 New
      +2
      These pay on time and on time, there is serious preparation and the money they have. They have already bought 4 billion, probably they have the most modern army from the CIS countries in terms of technology.
    4. Arminian power
      Arminian power 16 September 2013 10: 35 New
      -3
      Russia is arming its enemies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hi
      1. Apollo
        16 September 2013 11: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Arminian power
        Russia Arms their enemies


        write correctly first laughing and yet, it speaks of your disrespect for the Russian language am The request to visitors from Azerbaijan not to respond to provocations.
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 16 September 2013 17: 47 New
        +3
        Judging by your logic, you are also our enemy, and judging by the behavior of your state, if not an enemy, then certainly not an ally.
  4. Aeneas
    Aeneas 16 September 2013 08: 31 New
    +2
    Russia’s campaign is “fomenting” a mess in Karabakh.
    1. Arminian power
      Arminian power 16 September 2013 10: 41 New
      -1
      Quote: Aeneas
      Russia campaign "kindles" mess in Karabakh
      hi
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 16 September 2013 11: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: Aeneas
      Russia’s campaign is “fomenting” a mess in Karabakh.

      It seems to me on the contrary .. Russia is not profitable for them in the present situation, but they also understand that it cannot go on for so long!
      And they sell weapons, because it is clear that we will buy from others if that!
      Would not sell tanks, would buy from Ukraine or Korea for example!
      The bigger thing is that there is a Russian base in Armenia, it has much more benefits for Armenia than the Armenian army!
    3. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 16 September 2013 12: 09 New
      +5
      The Russian Federation, on the contrary, slows down this mess, but the equipment is just a personal business, they won’t buy from us, they will buy from Israel, China, Turkey, there are many sellers.
    4. Essenger
      Essenger 16 September 2013 17: 40 New
      +4
      Quote: Aeneas
      Russia’s campaign is “fomenting” a mess in Karabakh.

      She has been doing this for over 20 years.
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 16 September 2013 17: 51 New
        +2
        What have you been doing for 20 years?
        1. Essenger
          Essenger 16 September 2013 18: 02 New
          +6
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          What have you been doing for 20 years?


          Certainly we are not starting a war, we are not sponsoring the underground in the Volga region
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 17 September 2013 10: 49 New
            0
            The fact of the matter is that you have not been doing anything for 20 years. But soon you will have to do something, they close the baikonur laughing
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 17 September 2013 13: 57 New
              +2
              Quote: tilovaykrisa
              Baikonur then close


              do not close .... GDP will not close) tipun to your tongue laughing forever you have optimistic comments ... but now they went in reverse))))))))))))
            2. Essenger
              Essenger 17 September 2013 16: 50 New
              +5
              Quote: tilovaykrisa
              The fact of the matter is that you have not been doing anything for 20 years. But soon you will have to do something, they close the baikonur


              I with two hands FOR. If only you would not poison us with your heptyl.
  5. nsws3
    nsws3 16 September 2013 08: 33 New
    +3
    And when are our art. divisions that are in the shelves, staff? And the device is good, especially the platform with the 3 infantry fighting vehicle, which corresponds to the principle of unification.
    1. Apollo
      16 September 2013 10: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: nsws3
      And when our art. divisions who are in the shelves, staff? And the device is good, especially the platform with the 3 infantry fighting vehicle, which corresponds to the principle of unification.



      by the way, about the division
  6. darksoul
    darksoul 16 September 2013 10: 22 New
    +5
    Oh .... firstly, let's equip ourselves with new equipment, well, and secondly, why arm two opposing sides, Azerbaijan and Armenia .... or right now 10 silver coins will work and tomorrow they’ll need to separate them into a bloody meat grinder? .... bureaucrats mine reflex one to the loot .. the rest is ignored
  7. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 16 September 2013 10: 26 New
    +5
    Great car! OMS like an adult howitzer. And the price, I suppose, is comparable. Maybe Vienna is even redundant for battalion artillery? Moreover, Azerbaijan already has a BMP-3. So in this case, problems with the chassis should not be special. CARDOM is not cheap, but it is several times cheaper than the approximate analogue of Vienna - AMOS.
  8. ALEXXX1983
    ALEXXX1983 16 September 2013 11: 14 New
    -1
    Another confirmation of the saying “shoemaker without boots” - everything is exported, but we don’t need anything fool
    Soon the army will be like the Baltic states!
  9. slacker
    slacker 16 September 2013 19: 28 New
    +4
    A solvent client can be met. For Azeris, weapons; for Russia, money; for the Transcaucasus, the possibility of resolving a long-standing conflict.
    It is better to have a business partner in the person of Aliyev Jr., who is able to pay for his orders, than a fake "friend" in the face of the leadership of a poor Armenia, which, in addition to problems, has brought nothing good to Russia. The only thing Armenia pays Russia for its patronage is the export of an unwanted crime-prone element and its guest workers such as Hrachya Harutyunyan, who killed dozens of Russians with a broken dump truck for a penny.
    It is enough to recall the anti-Russian hysteria in Armenia after this incident, when the local public was most outraged by the woman’s dressing gown on the murderer of driver Arutyunyan, and not by the massacre of Russian people that he committed.
  10. Vigen-1973
    Vigen-1973 18 September 2013 03: 00 New
    0
    Dear Azerbaijanis, it’s very interesting for me when you call those who live in Karabakh the separatists that you want to crave for, do you mean the children, or are they not people for you?
    Have you ever thought for a moment that the war can come to your safe houses, located far from Karabakh. Of course, many of you will say that they are ready for it, but in reality, no sane person can be ready for this.

    What do you think will happen to the civilian population of Karabakh, if we assume Azerbaijan will return these territories by force of arms, will the population live in peace with you, or you will kill Safarov and those who carried out the pogroms in Baku, Sumgait and Kirovabad. The population of Karabakh knows what will happen to them if you "liberate" the territory and it is because of this that they will stand to death. Do not hope for an easy victory in a couple of days, there will be a sea of ​​blood.
    And about technology, in the beginning of the 90s Azerbaijan had a lot of tanks, helicopters and airplanes incomparable with Armenia, do you know where your tanks are? Scrape the paint on the tanks of the Karabakh army and there you will see your crescent.

    Sorry for my Russian, still not my native language.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 18 September 2013 07: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Vigen-1973
      What do you think will happen to the civilian population of Karabakh if ​​we assume Azerbaijan will return these territories by force of arms


      And why did dear Vigen not think about it when they expelled and destroyed the Azerbaijani population in this region!
      Did you really think about women and children, about a million refugees !?
      Quote: Vigen-1973
      You will cheat Safarov and those who pogroms in Baku, Sumgait and Kirovabad did

      No, we will call Eduard Grigoryan and other Armenians who led and organized the pogroms in Sumgait!
      Quote: Vigen-1973
      And about technology, in the beginning of the 90s Azerbaijan had a lot of tanks, helicopters and airplanes incomparable with Armenia, do you know where your tanks are?
      it’s nonsense of the Armenian agitation industry! I several times gave an interview here to the NKAR commandants and Soviet and Russian generals in which they clearly explain how the Armenians prepared, how they armed themselves! The difference was that you were eating our bread for a long time, but we weren’t ready!
      1. genisis
        genisis 18 September 2013 17: 56 New
        0
        No, we will call Eduard Grigoryan and other Armenians who led and organized the pogroms in Sumgait.


        The indictment in criminal case 18/60233 on charges of:
        1. Akhmedov Akhmed Imani oglu in committing a crime, provided for by Article. Art. 72, 15, 94 p. 2, 94 p. 2,6, 15, 94 pp. 2, 4, 17, 94 pp. 2, 4, 6,8 of the Criminal Code of the Azerbaijan SSR;
        2. Ismailova Ilgama Azat oglu in committing crimes under the articles of Art. 72 and 94 paragraphs. 2, 6 of the Criminal Code of the Azerbaijan SSR;
        3. Jafarova Yavara Giyas oglu in committing crimes under Article. Art. 72, 94 pp. 2, 6, 15, 94 pp. 2, 4, 6, 17, 94 pp. 2, 4, 6, 8, 94 pp. 2, 4, 6, 8 of the Criminal Code of the Azerbaijan SSR.
        1. genisis
          genisis 18 September 2013 18: 03 New
          0
          Another "hero" is Sumgait. I won’t be surprised if your son and his portrait are hanging with Ibad Huseynov.
          1. genisis
            genisis 18 September 2013 18: 15 New
            -1
            More from the same tribe. Rzayev identifies the "guide" Mehdiyev.
            A total of 89 different oglu cases took place in the case.
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 20 September 2013 12: 22 New
          -1
          Quote: genisis
          The indictment in criminal case 18/60233 on charges of:


          And there, besides Grigoryan, another 5 Armenians were arrested!
          Including an Armenian passportist named Jeanne, who passed on to her Armenians the address of the Armenians who did not pay money for society * Krunk * is all well-known facts dear Davidik)))

          1. genisis
            genisis 20 September 2013 22: 48 New
            0
            Joan? And she did in the criminal case, how simple is Jeanne? Without a surname? ))))) Alibyakushka, you better tell me if your idol Ibadushka died? It’s time for him to go to hell.
  11. Vigen-1973
    Vigen-1973 18 September 2013 20: 14 New
    +1
    Dear forum users,

    Nobody has the right to blame exclusively Armenians for these purges because "love" was mutual.
    What happened in those years in Karabakh, Azerbaijan and Armenia does not do anyone honor, the Azerbaijanis expelled the Armenians from Azerbaijan and Nakhichevan, and the Armenians of Azerbaijanis from Armenia and Karabakh. A similar picture was in India, as a result of which Pakistan was created. And I thought about the fate of women and children both then and now. Among the Armenians there were many people who helped Azerbaijanis, the same is true with respect to Azerbaijanis.

    As for Grigoryan, I read about it. It turns out that the Armenians were cutting each other, and Azerbaijani tolerant nationalists (these two words somehow do not fit) stood and watched. The same thing probably happened in Tyrcia at the beginning of the 20th century.

    As for the Armenian propaganda industry, we are far from you, the finances invested are not the same. Personally, I personally read a lot of Azerbaijani, Russian and Turkish (ATP translator Googl-a) information sites and can distinguish between what lies and what is true. By the way, I really like your jokes about the Foreign Ministry, there is something interesting to emphasize there. As for the tanks, it’s not interesting for me to say what, who and where I said, I believe my eyes, they don’t lie.

    As for your bread that we ate, then for me this is news :)

    I do not want to turn the forum into a srach, and therefore I ask you to refrain from insults of this nature.
    1. genisis
      genisis 18 September 2013 21: 18 New
      0
      The passage about "ate our bread" also made me laugh. It remains to add "drank our water and breathed our air." I still can’t understand, it’s genetic something, if a Turk is standing next to something, he immediately declares it to be his. They migrated from Altai to the Armenian Highlands in the 12th century, and now it turns out that it is not they who eat the bread of Armenians, Lezgins, Talysh, Avars, Udis, they do not destroy our monuments and appropriate the cultural heritage of Muslim autochthons, but those who by the will of fate endured them beside him all this time.
      As for Grigoryan, instead of repenting for hundreds of his fellow tribesmen who suddenly turned into beasts in Sumgait, Kirovabad, Baku, they grabbed one single dish with an Armenian surname and now they shout: “He’s the organizer, he robbed everyone, raped everyone and killed. " And nothing that no less than 80 Azerbaijanis were convicted only on Sumgayit events. As the organizer, Akhmedov (not an Armenian at all) was shot, but the tolerant Trans-Arctic townships still say that it was "the Armenians who killed the Armenians."
      And about the equipment that we captured in that war, S. Basayev said best of all in an interview in 2000, speaking about the Azerbaijanis with whom he had a chance to fight in the 92nd: "Those who fled (from Armenians) were the heroes on technology, because there were those who managed to quit technology. "
      What can I say, look at the Defense Ministry of Armenia Seyran Ohanyan and the Defense Minister of Tsiapov (as I call him Lezghins) Azerbaijan Safar Abiyev. We all remember the liberation of Berdzor in 1992
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 19 September 2013 23: 06 New
        0
        Quote: genisis
        What can I say, look at the Armenian Defense Ministry Seyran Ohanyan


        ..... and without you he sings completely different songs laughing Peaceful settlement of the Karabakh conflict through negotiations is an important direction for Armenia. This was stated by Armenian Minister of Defense Seyran Ohanyan at a meeting with students and faculty of YSU.
        As Armenia Today reports, the minister believes that the Karabakh conflict can be resolved only through dialogue. “If there are certain concessions, then they must be mutual, understanding that the states that won even the biggest wars, at the final stage, also had certain painful moments when signing the peace treaty,” Ohanyan noted. In this regard, according to him, the first step should be the formation of an atmosphere of trust, thanks to which it will be possible to take steps so that the situation on the contact line does not interfere with the negotiation process.
        In the matter of creating an atmosphere of trust, the Minister noted the importance of recalling snipers from the contact line, refraining from sabotage reconnaissance, creating opportunities to maintain communications through the hotline, and establishing ties at the level of defense ministers.
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 19 September 2013 22: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Vigen-1973
      Azerbaijanis expelled Armenians from Azerbaijan and Nakhichevan, and Armenians of Azerbaijanis from Armenia and Karabakh


      .. go away from the topic .. but all the same a few words .. firstly, not the Azerbaijanis started this bloody massacre !!!! ... if the Armenians got something, then for their separatist and nationalist actions against the territorial integrity Union republic, entailing the destruction of the foundations of the integrity of the USSR ..... they were the first to expel Azerbaijanis from Armenia .... the first to carry out sabotage and terrorist acts against civilians and law enforcement agencies ...
    3. Yarbay
      Yarbay 20 September 2013 12: 16 New
      -1
      Quote: Vigen-1973
      As for Grigoryan, I read about it. It turns out that the Armenians were cutting each other, and Azerbaijani tolerant nationalists (these two words somehow do not fit) stood and watched.

      No vigen it was both easier and more complicated at the same time !!
      People were expelled from Armenia by violence against them, including by killing! These people were placed in Sumgait, where people like Grigoryan rallied them, led them and led them to the pogroms!
      The usual provocation!
  12. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 19 September 2013 23: 29 New
    -1
    Hot Azerbaijani guys want to fight? .. I think it’s not worth it. Now it’s not up to your petty showdowns (no offense) ..
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 19 September 2013 23: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Hot Azerbaijani guys want to fight?


      laughing Yes, what are you ... God forbid))) the enemy is not the one)))) no arguments. No arguments .... some squeals)))).
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Now is not up to your little showdowns


      ..as the WIL said ... a flame will ignite from a spark wassat and if it’s curious, it’s our comments that break all records, by the way)))))) look - for the last 6 days - one is boring here))) well, except for that in Syria)))) and then there’s only one of my opponents give a little heat ... wassat
      1. Vigen-1973
        Vigen-1973 20 September 2013 00: 14 New
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        I don’t see any point in talking about these topics, anyway everyone will remain with their own opinion. I’m waiting for everyone to fight in Karabakh, and we’ll "talk" there. This confrontation has gotten, or rather, how it is used by politicians: yours, ours, Russians and Americans.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 20 September 2013 12: 25 New
          -1
          Quote: Vigen-1973
          I’m waiting for everyone to fight in Karabakh, and we’ll "talk" there.

          I don’t think we’ll talk)))) run away, heels will sparkle already))))))
          And do not run the minced meat from you)))))))))
          1. Vigen-1973
            Vigen-1973 20 September 2013 18: 05 New
            0
            Once we already “ran” and so we grabbed 7 districts and fled so that we didn’t even see your heels. Then they also said that we would make mince :)))) It’s easy for you ... in front of the monitor, and run into the field first if you ever come to the front.

            And you can ask about the "heroism" of Azerbaijani soldiers from the Chechens, Muslims of Afghanistan and Pakistan who fought on your side.
            You have so few war heroes that you are forced to make a hero out of killers who have no idea what an officer’s honor is. The proverb correctly says: centuries pass and the Turk remains a Turk.
            I noticed that there are a lot of Azerbaijanis on the forum, so don’t hesitate, we come and put a minus to me.
          2. Arminian power
            Arminian power 4 October 2013 20: 10 New
            -1
            Your atts and brethren escaped from agdam as a sprinter, not so you scored a Turk
            wassat wassat
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 20 September 2013 12: 23 New
      -1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Hot Azerbaijani guys want to fight? .. I think it’s not worth it. Now it’s not up to your petty showdowns (no offense) ..

      And we somehow do not care about your showdown !!
      What you call small showdowns is the tragedy of millions!
  13. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 19 September 2013 23: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: smersh70
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Hot Azerbaijani guys want to fight?


    laughing Yes, what are you ... God forbid))) the enemy is not the one)))) no arguments. No arguments .... some squeals)))).
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Now is not up to your little showdowns


    ..as the WIL said ... a flame will ignite from a spark wassat and if it’s curious, it’s our comments that break all records, by the way)))))) look - for the last 6 days - one is boring here))) well, except for that in Syria)))) and then there’s only one of my opponents give a little heat ... wassat

    I agree! and this is alarming .... I like your patriotism! I respect for this! But the main thing is not to overdo the guys .. Peace and prosperity to your people! It is sincerely and sincerely!
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 19 September 2013 23: 59 New
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      It is sincerely and sincerely!


      Thank you! drinks I hope there will still be many topics under which in the comments we will come to hand to hand using the keyboard fellow
      1. Arminian power
        Arminian power 4 October 2013 20: 12 New
        0
        ara roman kak derlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
  14. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 20 September 2013 00: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: smersh70
    Quote: MIKHAN
    It is sincerely and sincerely!


    Thank you! drinks I hope there will still be many topics under which in the comments we will come to hand to hand using the keyboard fellow

    It's my pleasure! it’s better to converge into melee and sort things out than in real life without understanding .. Good luck!
    1. Vigen-1973
      Vigen-1973 20 September 2013 00: 21 New
      +1
      As history shows, politicians decide (for me this word is equivalent to prostitutes) and not the people. If in due time nobody would intervene then nothing would happen. Mamutili worse nowhere.
      No matter how this story ends, we live side by side with you and the sooner everything is settled, the better for everyone.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 20 September 2013 12: 27 New
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        Quote: Vigen-1973
        No matter how this story ends, we live side by side with you and the sooner everything is settled, the better for everyone.

        This is unlikely!
        you have overfilled the cup of patience and you are unlikely to live near .. I think you have to migrate to the lower Euphrates to your historic homeland!
        1. Vigen-1973
          Vigen-1973 20 September 2013 18: 06 New
          +1
          In your case, dreaming is bad.
  15. Vigen-1973
    Vigen-1973 20 September 2013 00: 27 New
    +1
    On the subject of the complex "Vienna", I really liked, in addition to general characteristics, a very good angle for raising the trunk. They know how to make weapons in Russia :)