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The aircraft carrier Vikramaditya completes sea trials. What does this mean for our fleet

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In the Barents Sea, the test cycle of the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier is successfully completed. Now the flight tests of the deck are ending aviation. MiG-29K / KUB fighters take off and board the deck from the ship. For the first time, night landings on an aircraft carrier were made. Testing of aeronautical systems is being completed. In the near future, the aircraft carrier will be transferred to the Indian Navy. Thanks to this, the Indian fleet will receive new opportunities - it will become an aircraft carrier.


Now about what Vikramaditya means to us. This ship was actually built anew for the Indian Navy based on the Baku Baku TAVKR hull. Modernization of the warship in this volume was not carried out anywhere in the world. Sergey Novoselov, head of production at the Sevmash military-technical cooperation, believes that it would be easier to build the ship again. At the same time, the specialists of Sevmash completely lacked the experience of building aircraft carriers. All Soviet aircraft carriers were built and put into operation on the territory now separated from Russia. "Vikramaditya" - this is the first aircraft carrier built with us in the North. He was needed not only by the Indians, but also by us. Now we can build such ships for ourselves. The successful trials of Vikramadithi leave no doubt about this. Thus, we restored the reproduction of another class of weapons, which was lost after the collapse of the USSR.

But that is not all. Now we have not only aircraft capable of operating from the deck, and not only ships from which aircraft can take off. We have a living experience in the operation and use of such equipment. We got this experience long and hard. And fortunately, he was not lost. Accumulated and transmitted during the combat services of the TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov". Therefore, India will now receive not only the ship and aircraft, but also the experience gained by Russian sailors and pilots. The other day, the management of the aircraft carrier took Commodore Barry. Now Indian sailors under the direction of the seamen of the White Sea naval base begin to master the ship.

So India increases the capabilities of its armed forces. China goes the same way, having completed the Soviet Varyag TAVKR and is now putting it into operation. True, China goes this way more independently, and therefore many difficulties still await Chinese sailors and pilots. Nevertheless, for countries that are striving to take a leading position in the future, it is necessary to develop the armed forces - otherwise, those who now dominate the world simply will not allow them to rise. Strengthening statehood and strengthening defense are almost synonymous.

China and India until recently it was difficult to call developed countries - only the USSR could challenge the Western world in terms of advanced technologies and the power of the armed forces. But today we are forced to recover from a disaster. And in a sense, we are following a similar path. Some types of weapons, such as aircraft carriers, we could build independently in the recent past. Now we are again able to build such ships. Thanks to cooperation, the Indians were able to reduce the time required to obtain a combat-ready unit. And we have restored the capabilities of the industry (in fact, the production complex was created anew). It now remains to use the existing experience and industry opportunities for yourself.
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  1. sined0707
    sined0707 16 September 2013 15: 33
    24
    God help you
    1. astra
      astra 16 September 2013 15: 48
      25
      Now we can build such ships for ourselves.

      Now it remains to decide on the construction of aircraft carriers for themselves.
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 16 September 2013 16: 07
        17
        Quote: astra
        it remains to decide on the construction of aircraft carriers for themselves.

        Guys !!! Wikromadia is the last century, it's time to build more modern, advanced, technological ..., well, at least with an e-magnet catapult. This is the same progress !!!!
        Or another four-thread cooler! Run after amers ,,,, dumb, because there are brains and we know where they are!
        1. Rustam
          Rustam 16 September 2013 16: 46
          23
          Sergh-Guys !!! Wikromadia is the last century, it is time to build more modern, advanced, technological.


          Naturally, this is the last century, only now the construction of a new aircraft carrier will completely bury the entire failed OSK shipbuilding program, and it will eat down the entire Navy budget

          -There would arrange the construction of ships in 2-4 tons, infrastructure, berths, bring AL and DL to mind, think about naval aviation (upgrade), upgrade equipment in the Marine Corps, learn how to use and maintain future French UDC - here is the primary and primary task

          -design and begin construction of new destroyers in exchange for 956 (although 956 can be restored and repaired, excellent ships)

          -when these tasks are solved, and the shipyard is built or updated, you can think (just think and weigh everything) about the construction of a new Aircraft Carrier

          - the reference is the USA and their creations - especially the future CVN-78 "Gerald R. Ford (The aircraft carrier, numbered CVN78, represents the first US aircraft carrier design since the 1960s. The ship will have a smaller crew than previous ships, and will receive new technologies, including an electromagnetic aircraft launch system, an improved aerofinisher and a dual-band radar)

          And the fantastic construction dates were laid in 2009, the transfer to the Navy in 2015 is 6 years, a fool of 100000 tons, we will not say anything about our long-term construction projects.
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 16 September 2013 18: 58
            +9
            Quote: Rustam

            Naturally, this is the last century, only now the construction of a new aircraft carrier will completely bury the entire failed OSK shipbuilding program, and it will eat down the entire Navy budget

            Plus, from the heart! So much common sense in one comment is rare!
        2. Arthur 775
          Arthur 775 16 September 2013 18: 53
          +4
          The strategy is exactly the same, to accumulate and digest technology. Because it’s not so easy to get out of a complete ass. As they say, it’s in a hurry. And about aircraft carriers, I think this is the last century. Most likely, in the next 15 years, the doctrine of wars will change, which we are already observing (NATO begins to slip).

          (The floating base is noticeable already from the constellation of hounds of dogs)
          1. Patriot.ru.
            Patriot.ru. 16 September 2013 22: 49
            +1
            Correctly, the USSR was developing a system for destroying aircraft carrier groups, with ballistic missile strikes, with multiple, maneuvering, warheads. We threw it, but China did.
        3. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 16 September 2013 19: 48
          +4
          Quote: Sergh
          Guys !!! Wikromadia is the last century, it's time to build more modern ones,

          And how many such ships have we built for ourselves in the "last century"?
          Quote: Sergh
          advanced, technological ..., well, at least with an e-magnet catapult. This is the same progress !!!!

          Yeah, progress. And the devastated collective farms, MTS and the return to farming is a regression! And if there is a regression in the economy, then there is no progress in shipbuilding!
          Quote: Sergh
          Run after amers ,,,, dumb, because there are brains and we know where they are!

          The trouble is that we are not the only ones who know where they are! Therefore, our sworn "friends" are waiting for talented programmers and scientists with open arms!
        4. Revolver
          Revolver 16 September 2013 22: 44
          +1
          Quote: Sergh
          Wikromadia is the last century, it's time to build more modern, advanced, technological ..., well, at least with an e-magnet catapult. This is the same progress !!!!

          In the meantime, they plan atomic destroyers and diesel (or even some non-nuclear) aircraft carriers.
          Shish kebab should be hot, and vodka cold. And not vice versa!
        5. vyatom
          vyatom 17 September 2013 09: 00
          0
          Quote: Sergh
          Quote: astra
          it remains to decide on the construction of aircraft carriers for themselves.

          Guys !!! Wikromadia is the last century, it's time to build more modern, advanced, technological ..., well, at least with an e-magnet catapult. This is the same progress !!!!
          Or another four-thread cooler! Run after amers ,,,, dumb, because there are brains and we know where they are!

          I do not agree completely. The same Americans, when designing, lay huge potential for the modernization of their warships. That's why they have combat units in service, built back in the 50s and re-equipped with modern electronics. The project of the Soviet aircraft-carrying cruisers is unique in that it is not just an aircraft jack, but a full-fledged warship with an attack wing on board. For our proposed theater of operations, it fits perfectly.
          And let's not forget that the construction and operation of aircraft carriers such as the Enterprise costs a lot of money. In the doctrine of the defensive policy of our state, I would place more emphasis on the development of the multipurpose submarine forces, which very effectively deterred and restrain the offensive impulse of the American AUG. One torpedo with a nuclear warhead is capable of completely destroying an aircraft carrier group.
      2. Genry
        Genry 16 September 2013 17: 50
        +1
        Carriers are good only against the Papuans with weak air defense. With the modern development of air defense, the aircraft performs the function of the first stage of a missile, outside the reach of air defense.
        Already, aircraft carriers are just beautiful boats with which the United States did not even dare to attack Syria.
        With the advent of universal energy weapons (all kinds of fig-zers), the Air Force will completely lose its significance. Their main function is a storage of weapons and resources.
        1. astra
          astra 16 September 2013 19: 55
          +9
          Quote: Genry
          Already, aircraft carriers are just beautiful boats with which the United States did not even dare to attack Syria.

          Maybe the Americans didn’t intend to attack Syria at all, but scared them to destroy chemical weapons with the help of Russia. Otherwise, in the event of an attack, there would be a serious risk of endangering the chemical attacks of its allies bordering Syria.
        2. Algor73
          Algor73 16 September 2013 19: 56
          +2
          I agree in part. As long as aircraft carriers lose their advantage, more than a decade will pass. Its superiority, when compared with the times of the Second World War, has already significantly decreased, but nevertheless it is a formidable weapon of retaliation, this weapon is not offensive. But for Russia, with its vast borders, such ships need at least two
          1. Patriot.ru.
            Patriot.ru. 16 September 2013 23: 01
            0
            Aircraft carriers are an offensive weapon - one-to-one. But our DBKs (large missile boat). The defensive ones cannot go far. But they will destroy anyone on their shores, they have 8 Granites on board.
      3. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 16 September 2013 18: 56
        +4
        Quote: astra
        Now it remains to decide on the construction of aircraft carriers for themselves

        no, then the money for the Olympics is not enough! And parts on the Mistral go are expensive! We don’t let it out at home, we write it out from France. Myself, while we block the motorboat!
        "
        At the shipbuilding plant "Vympel" (Rybinsk) 5 September 2013, the modernized boat of the project 12150 "Mongoose" was launched. According to the press service of the shipbuilding enterprise, this is the second boat of the series, built for the Russian Navy in 2013.
        "
        http://topwar.ru/33378-na-ssz-vympel-spuschen-vtoroy-specialnyy-kater-mangust-dl
        ya-vmf-rossii.html
        sad of course, if you do not scuffle!
      4. AVV
        AVV 16 September 2013 19: 57
        +1
        And we need such ships, but more advanced ones, created from scratch, in a modular scheme, with new weapons systems, with a new power plant, with a TTX superior to similar systems of its potential adversary !!!
      5. Revolver
        Revolver 16 September 2013 22: 19
        +3
        Quote: astra
        Now it remains to decide on the construction of aircraft carriers for themselves.

        Quote: V. Vysotsky
        Where is the money?

        The decision to take it as 2 fingers. But to collect money, taking into account traditional kickbacks and cuts - this is the task. Putin, it seems, cannot solve it, but Stalin has been gone for 60 years. If there had been Stalin, all these money-sawers would have been sawing trees for a long time at the logging site, and haulers would have rolled wheelbarrows with rocks in the mines - that would have been money.
        1. Arti
          Arti 17 September 2013 06: 10
          -2
          Quote: Nagan
          If there had been Stalin, all these money-sawers would have been sawing trees for a long time at the logging site, and haulers would have rolled wheelbarrows with rocks in the mines - that would have been money.


          Yes, that's just bad luck - money would be found, but he (Stalin) would lose everyone (sharashka, deserters and frightened people) - not the best atmosphere for the work of educated and smart people, at least in peacetime.
          1. Selevc
            Selevc 17 September 2013 14: 01
            +2
            but he (Stalin) would have lost everyone (sharashka, deserters and frightened people) - not the best atmosphere for work
            But how did he lose it - the same Korolev and the company launched wooden gliders into the sky as early as the 30s, and in the 50s they launched a satellite into space ... Where is it even cooler? And so the whole world was overtaken ...
            And by the way, almost all Soviet scientists, having left their sharazhki for some reason, did not run abroad and worked further in their country - and now they are fleeing to the West even without sharazhki ... Maybe it's not the leader of the country but the banal crisis of patriotism?
  2. aleks.baa2012
    aleks.baa2012 16 September 2013 15: 34
    +2
    Hindus whined long-term, here you have an Aircraft Carrier drinks this would not hurt us what
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 16 September 2013 16: 39
      12
      Quote: aleks.baa2012
      The Hindus were whining long-term, here you hold the Aircraft Carrier, we wouldn’t be hurt

      The building complex and the equipment were created anew, we trained at the "Gorshkov", now it is possible to put Kuznetsov on a deep modernization. There is a team, the technology has been worked out on a foreign order, now God himself commands to please himself, loved ones. And by the time Kuznetsov is overhauled and modernized, I think that a working project for the next generation AV will be drawn up.
  3. rugor
    rugor 16 September 2013 15: 39
    +2
    in fact, the production complex was re-created


    I'd love to believe.
    At most enterprises of the military-industrial complex, technological equipment has long lived out. This is one of the reasons for the high cost of production (the second most important after theft).
  4. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 16 September 2013 15: 44
    +2
    I understand. But still I’ll say: this means that our Navy has lost a possible military unit.
    1. VAF
      VAF 16 September 2013 16: 41
      11
      Quote: serge-68-68
      But still I’ll say: this means that our Navy has lost a possible military unit.


      I agree completely! +!

      And I would like to ask the author (or maybe he is aware), for ourselves, the MiG-29K / KUB will be built with the same "minced meat" as the Hindu or ourselves .. as always ... "from what was recourse "
      1. Rustam
        Rustam 16 September 2013 17: 04
        +2
        vaf (1)
        for ourselves MiG-29K / KUB we will build with the same "minced meat" as the Hindu or ourselves .. as always ... "from what was


        Uncle greetings drinks

        this is one of those questions that I was interested in, for stuffing, THALES helmets, for our ship Migs

        generally talked with ours and with RSK Mig and got to the Thales stand - they vowed that the equipment as in Indian with French Thales-Sagem systems (acre israeli systems) - I already have experience on both SMT and the new SU-30SM also with French filling - there is no hanging guidance container (but this is not the point sad ) although Max advertised with might and main, verified Damocles

        and most importantly, this is also awakening (here in the photo, clickable) -Thales TopSight -thing
        as you know On July 11, 2012, OJSC Russian Aircraft Corporation MIG and the Thales group signed a contract for the supply of 24 units of the Thales TopSight helmet-mounted target designation and display system for completing the MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB naval fighters planned for delivery to the Russian Navy.


        I hope everything will be as they said, although? it remains to wait a long time at the end of the year they promised to transfer the first two to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and we'll see
        1. Tamagon
          Tamagon 16 September 2013 17: 18
          0
          And electronics will not refuse at the wrong time to say the least?
        2. VAF
          VAF 16 September 2013 18: 01
          +5
          Quote: Rustam

          this is one of those questions that I was interested in, for stuffing, THALES helmets, for our ship Migs


          Hi Rustam, I haven't "heard" for 1000 years drinks Yes, I talked with the Korotkovskys .... it seems like yes ... yes, and "everything" the rest is the same acre of Israeli electronic warfare systems, the same will be like an Indian ... so .. let's see.
          Himself did not "climb out" in the comment asked the author a question, maybe he is aware of what will be from "minced meat".

          But behind all this "front door" there is .... well, what is called not very much, this is just for everyone fellow patriots, about the article ... as ours gave to ask ... to Ameri Kiti-Hawk wassat
          Uh .. how much was- yes we have them and so and so ..... and to land, and they are for toilet paper lol

          Well, read and see ... "takalki" (Rustam does not concern you) drinks

          So, on the afternoon of August 21, 2013, MiG test pilot Andrei Shishov completed the take-off and landing of the MiG-29K with the customer’s typical combat load.
          At the request of the Indian side, the pilot hooked onto the first (closest to the stern) aerofinisher cable.
          Take-off time - 14:35 Moscow time, landing - 15:40 Moscow time.
          The rather long stay of the aircraft in the air is explained by the need to perform a difficult flight mission as part of the test of the ship and its aviation weapons.
          Well, it’s like fellow But belay

          Shortly before Shishov’s take-off, at a distance of less than 100 meters from the aircraft carrier, following a parallel course at an altitude of about 50 meters, a base marine patrol aircraft of the P-3 Orion type, flight number 3298 of the Norwegian Armed Forces, with the inscription “Viking” flew over. belay

          Well, then it’s not interesting, they reported to Monchegorsk, with the DE, the MiG-31 took off to intercept, came ........



          Awww I can't hear request
          1. gispanec
            gispanec 16 September 2013 22: 11
            +1
            and what ??? sprinkle with ashes or shoot yourself?
      2. jasper
        jasper 16 September 2013 17: 46
        +4
        Unfortunately. without an Indian order, we would not have had a combat unit. no experience of similar work hi
      3. Shturmovik
        Shturmovik 16 September 2013 23: 09
        +1
        I don’t know what about the purchase, but in Lipetsk the issue of retraining teachers on the MiG-29K / KUB is already being considered.
  5. Lone wolf
    Lone wolf 16 September 2013 15: 44
    0
    This ship is actually rebuilt for the Indian Navy
    and for the Russian Federation itself one Kuznitsov ??? Better built for yourself!
  6. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 16 September 2013 15: 49
    +7
    Handsome! The Indians will now have a real aircraft carrier, and not the troughs that are now. Unfortunately, this aircraft carrier, like Kuzya, is not a full-fledged aircraft carrier due to the absence of an AWACS aircraft on it. Because of this, they are losing to the American aircraft carriers. At the same time, the Indians were greedy and were left without air defense. According to the contract with Rosoboronexport, in the basic configuration, as a self-defense system against an air attack, it is envisaged to equip an aircraft carrier with an automatic 30-mm six-barreled artillery mount AK-630. In addition to this, it was planned to install an Israeli-made shipborne air defense system, the Barak-8 (LR-SAM) ship air defense system, but the project for its development was delayed. And Israel will put it on "Vikramaditya" only in three years when the first medium repair is planned .... It is clear that both the MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB on the "Vikramaditya" are being worked out for "Kuznetsov". Because it's no secret that the SU-33 is an excellent aircraft, but it was designed for Ulyanovsk. And only intrigues put him on the deck of "Kuznetsov" from which he was forced to start, at best, with three quarters of ammunition, but when there were problems with the propulsion system, they flew empty altogether. So now everything is back to square one. And the Indians still have to give this aircraft carrier, otherwise it smells bad already - the way they pull and pull.
  7. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 16 September 2013 15: 51
    11
    ... What does this mean for our fleet ...

    It is annoying for Gorshkov, but:

    This means that we can modernize Kuznetsov.
    This means that we can build more ships of this class on our own.
    Ships gained invaluable experience.

    IMHO, I'm not special.
  8. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 16 September 2013 15: 53
    +2
    Experience is a good thing .. It’s only as if this experience had not been torn to pieces to pieces (potential opponents) India China is arming heavily .. If they themselves can’t produce, they’re buying the necessary weapons (aircraft carrier ships) .. Time is now tense. At any moment, a world carnage can begin .. And we are first of all arming foreign countries and ourselves in the last turn .. I don’t like all this to be honest.
  9. Dmitry Zurn
    Dmitry Zurn 16 September 2013 15: 54
    +7
    Somehow very optimistic. You think we will continue to build, I wanted to count on it. However, it is haunted by the fact that our Navy adopted the last Cheetah 13 years ago, it is good that the Nerpa was designed for the Indians before. And you write that qualified personnel have appeared, in our country they think about people only if there is someone's financial or political interests. I think the workers at the shipyards of Komsomolsk on the Amur are also somewhat hooked. If you remember our nuclear-powered ships and in Nizhny Novgorod, we also had qualified personnel. And today "Severodvinsk" will not float from year to year. Let's hope that the author will be right and we will see pennants in the raid. I hope that the crisis around Syria will open our eyes, otherwise our poor cruiser Moskva, like Figaro, is here and there showing the St. Andrew's flag in the vast world ocean. I think Russia's western partners do not understand our insolence, especially looking at the passing Bosporus large landing craft "Minsk", they could paint over the rust on foot. They do not understand our insolence and are probably afraid of our unpredictability. For now, let's hope so.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 16 September 2013 19: 27
      +8
      Quote: Dmitry Zurn
      If you remember, we built nuclear powered ships in Nizhny Novgorod,

      He served 37 calendar years in the navy, but kill me: I DON'T REMEMBER that nuclear-powered ships were DESIGNED in Nizhny (Gorky). They built - yes, but they were designed at SPMBM, and then SKB-143, "Malakhit", located in St. Petersburg (Leningrad), st. Frunze, 18. Now part of the USC. He developed 17 submarine projects, according to which 110 submarines were built, of which 84 were atomic.
      I believe Dmitry, you just made a slip of the tongue.
  10. Odonushka
    Odonushka 16 September 2013 15: 55
    +1
    Now for myself I would still have to build ... or, as usual, while they decide to build or not, everything will become obsolete or plundered ...
  11. slacker
    slacker 16 September 2013 15: 57
    +7
    All Soviet aircraft carriers were built and put into operation in the territory now separated from Russia. Vikramaditya is the first aircraft carrier built here in the North. He was needed not only by Indians, but also by us. Now we can build such ships for ourselves. Successful trials of Vikramaditya leave no doubt about it. Thus, we have restored the reproduction of another class of weapons that was lost after the collapse of the USSR.


    Gold words! And Sevmashzavod deservedly can celebrate its rebirth and Russia can rightfully be proud of its Northern Machine-Building Plant!
  12. Rustam
    Rustam 16 September 2013 15: 59
    +6
    quote from the authorThanks to this, the Indian fleet will receive new opportunities - it will become a carrier- Yes, of course it is strong, it must be said so


    fill in the blanks



    In general, the history of the Indian carrier fleet is more than 50 years old.

    -the first aircraft carrier of the Indian Navy received already in 1957- “Vikrant” (INS Vikrant) former English “Hercules” (HMS Hercules) -in the USSR at that time only dreamed about aircraft carriers

    - the second in 1987, the Indian Navy received the second aircraft carrier, “Viraat” (INS Viraat)
    former Hermes (HMS Hermes),
    1. smiths xnumx
      smiths xnumx 16 September 2013 16: 42
      +7
      Moreover, the Indians have experience in the combat use of carrier-based aircraft
      The first Indian aircraft carrier was Vikrant, which India acquired from Britain in 1961. Before the Indian phase of its service, the aircraft carrier was called Hercules (R11). The ship, built in 1945, belonged to the Glory class (the total displacement of an aircraft carrier is 19 tons, the highest speed is 500 knots). The air group, in addition to a squadron of 24,5 French anti-submarine Alize aircraft, included Sea Hawk fighter-bomber (4 aircraft) and four Allouette multi-purpose helicopters). The aircraft carrier took part in two Indo-Pakistani wars of 10 and 1965. Particularly active aircraft were used in 1971. During this period, the aircraft carrier Vikrant was off the coast of Bangladesh. Aircraft were used for night attacks on ground targets, setting minefields and patrolling coastal waters.
      Sea Haw deck-based attack aircraft from the Wykrant aircraft carrier launched two attacks on East Pakistan’s main naval base in Chittagong. Each strike involved 8 aircraft. As a result, 2 patrol boats were sunk, and port facilities and railway lines were damaged. In total, from December 5 to 11, carrier-based aviation made about 400 sorties to strike at naval bases and ports. Were destroyed 2 vehicles, 8 medium vessels, many small vessels, boats, motorbots, barges and ferries.

      http://militera.lib.ru/h/dotsenko/05.html

      Alize anti-submarine aircraft bombed at night, acting alone or in small groups. During one of these sorties, the Alize crew managed to sink a Pakistani submarine of the Daphne type, which was also of French origin. The boat was on the surface and was destroyed by bombs and missile attack. In total, during the military operations, Br.1050 completed 70 sorties. On the mines exhibited by these aircraft, 11 ships were blown up before the end of the war. In addition to the submarine, Alize crews managed to sink six gunboats, armed steamboats and boats, as well as eight merchant ocean vessels with bombing and missile attacks. One of the Alize Indians lost. The Pakistani F-104 intercepted an Indian plane southeast of Karachi, where it made a patrol flight. From a direct hit of a rocket, Alize exploded in the air.
      After the start of production of Sea Harrier, they became interested in the Indian Navy. In 1979, a contract was signed for the supply of six single and one two-seat aircraft, which were supposed to be based on the Indian aircraft carrier Vikrant, replacing the outdated English Sea Hawk. Sea Harrier for India received the designations Sea Harrier FRS Mk. 51 (single) and Sea Harrier T Mk.60 (double). They slightly differed from the British counterparts in radio communication and oxygen equipment, as well as in the composition of their weapons. After India acquired the British aircraft carrier Hermes, in 1986 another 11 Sea Harrier FRS Mk.51 was ordered to equip it. Currently, they form the basis of Indian carrier-based aviation.
      The first Indian aircraft carrier Vikrant
      1. Rustam
        Rustam 16 September 2013 17: 12
        +1
        blacksmiths 1977 (2) Today, 16:42 ↑
        Moreover, the Indians have experience in the combat use of carrier-based aircraft


        +1 wink
  13. Ross
    Ross 16 September 2013 16: 36
    +2
    Quote: Sergh
    Quote: astra
    it remains to decide on the construction of aircraft carriers for themselves.

    Guys !!! Wikromadia is the last century, it's time to build more modern, advanced, technological ..., well, at least with an e-magnet catapult. This is the same progress !!!!
    Or another four-thread cooler! Run after amers ,,,, dumb, because there are brains and we know where they are!


    Electro-magnetic must first be created.
  14. honest jew
    honest jew 16 September 2013 16: 40
    +1
    Quote: Dmitry Zurn
    I think the workers in the shipyards of Komsomolsk-on-Amur


    Komsomolsk on Amur flooded actually
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 17 September 2013 10: 22
      +1
      Quote: Honest Jew
      Komsomolsk on Amur flooded actually

      It will soon pass.
      1. Tartary
        Tartary 17 September 2013 11: 03
        +1
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        Quote: Honest Jew
        Komsomolsk on Amur flooded actually

        It will soon pass.


        In topic:

        We are drowned in the black waters of the Amur ...
        The river went wild like an old fool ...
        She tests our city for strength
        Which did not flinch and is still young ...
        Settlements and summer residences go under water ...
        The river went wild like hell! Not otherwise!...
        Amuru groundwater to help.
        When will it all end!? .. By golly ?!
        You have to stand firm! Although there is no order ...
        The federal highway went under the water ...
        People fight, as in youth ardently ...
        And again, a threat ... On Lake Mylki ...
        Bags ... Tippers ... And black faces ...
        Men not sleeping ... No time to shave ...
        Dump trucks fly to the dams of Amur ...
        And the battle does not have that smoke break! ...
        Everything is mixed in the sea! ... Rivers, ducts ...
        That is the peak of the flood in the Far East ...
        Soldiers ... Rescuers ... And volunteers ...
        Sand and rocks have already been brought by mountains ...
        Students ... Workers ... And MOE ...
        Are two hydroelectric power plants to blame for everything? ...
        The platform ... Victory ... And Khorpinka is drowning ...
        And the wind is already blowing clouds across the sky ...
        And the rain in the morning drums on the roof ...
        Cupid rises ... Level Up ...
        Ordinary people save our city ...
        And those who fear no one will condemn ...
        The city has no choice ...
        And even though the situation is severe today ...
        Patience! ... Courage! ... Pep!
        Do not believe, friends, alarmists and rumors!
        Our city lives! Although the level is higher ...
        Thanks to all those who hear us today ...
        He enters the battle with a crazy element ...
        Thanks to the Heroes born of Russia!
        Irina Kuzmina. 12.09.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX.
  15. Arkan
    Arkan 16 September 2013 16: 54
    +2
    A good article, and the topic raised in it is timely. When building aircraft carriers for ourselves, we need to take into account foreign experience, we don’t need them.
  16. nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 16 September 2013 16: 56
    0
    And what did it cost us and how much was it brought to mind?
  17. cryloff.il
    cryloff.il 16 September 2013 17: 00
    +2
    I read articles and comments on them and I get the impression that here some wise guys gathered. They know what to build, when and to whom. Well done! HOORAY!
  18. xomaNN
    xomaNN 16 September 2013 17: 03
    +2
    SMP is, of course, the diversified center of the Russian Federation’s shipbuilding industry. Well done, fellow shipbuilders, who were able to build surface monsters in addition to the usual submarines. Inconveniently just located very north of St. Petersburg and their design bureau. repeat
  19. Walking
    Walking 16 September 2013 17: 45
    +1
    Built, built and finally built. Let's see how much we will build for ourselves
  20. mithridate
    mithridate 16 September 2013 18: 10
    +1
    experience is always valuable
  21. Ivan79
    Ivan79 16 September 2013 18: 13
    +1
    Soon, the Indians will smash a shampoo on its board ... But we need to move on. We need to build ourselves!
  22. Cuba86
    Cuba86 16 September 2013 18: 34
    +2
    It’s necessary to take Shoigu’s DNA and freeze it ... and then clone Sergei Kozhugetovich’s health, but Shoigu alone will not restore the army and navy in our country (((
  23. kanifas
    kanifas 16 September 2013 18: 34
    0
    Very arrogant article.
  24. mak210
    mak210 16 September 2013 18: 35
    +1
    Explain not to a sailor why floating targets with the proud name "Aircraft Carrier" are needed at all. You don't even need to drown it, just get into the runway once (or whatever it is called) and you get a metal rest house for the pilots. Of course, if you do not need to scare the Papuans, but the missile can be launched by the submarine, which will not be reflected on the radars. And any destroyer will shoot back until the end is gouged. Here on the site I recently read about an American virtual exercise, when a mass of low-flying airplanes and high-speed boats destroyed a group of aircraft carriers in an instant.

    Money to a fig? Show off? Or are general (admiral) posts required? I don’t accept explanations about the budget cut. lol
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 16 September 2013 20: 48
      +4
      Do you understand what military AVIATION is for? If you understand, then you will understand what aircraft carriers are needed for, they are needed for aviation, not for show-offs. There will be no need for combat aircraft, and there will be no need for aircraft carriers, as well as for land-based airfields, with all their infrastructure and kilometer-long runways.
    2. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 22: 53
      0
      Well, you still need to be able to get there. besides there are different papuans laughing
  25. Free Island
    Free Island 16 September 2013 18: 46
    +5
    I don’t understand - why is everyone so obsessed with aircraft carriers for Russia? what are they for us? The Americans need them - the Sesheans live far from a tidbit (the Mainland of Eurasia, Africa and everything else), because the Americans need to drag their flying democracy delivery carriers on aircraft carriers to the shores of Europe, the Middle and Far East, and so on ... Russia has all enemies (except The United States), all these enemies with Russia have land borders (except for the apple tree, but you don’t have to fly to it, you can hammer it from strategists) .. still chase the West? we don’t need aircraft carriers, it’s better to really invest this loot in missile defense and strategic missile forces
  26. mak210
    mak210 16 September 2013 18: 59
    +1
    In, finally realized, as I wrote: scare the Papuans with a terrible scream. But what kind of Papuans will we scare, or will we again drag socialism into the masses? Those. accumulated money, it’s time to ponte ponte.
  27. gameover65
    gameover65 16 September 2013 21: 08
    +1
    Well, yes, right now we just need aircraft carriers! all the forces to build aircraft carriers !!!
    take a look at the Pacific Fleet, how many ships of the first rank?
    destroyers decommissioned!
    no cruisers, no destroyers. the entire Pacific Fleet is represented by two BODs, tugboats and a tanker knows which year.
    the flagship of the Pacific Fleet Varyag, when was the last time you went to sea? and can he, after so many years of docking, go out to sea?
    what kind of aircraft carriers, with a tufty pile of money for their construction and maintenance, we can speak of when there are practically no ocean (ships of the first rank) ships in the fleets!
    the ships that are being built belong to the mosquito fleet class!
    1. gispanec
      gispanec 16 September 2013 22: 19
      0
      Quote: gameover65
      the flagship of the Pacific Fleet Varyag, when was the last time you went to sea?

      Duc he is in Australia on a visit ...... you are just a Troll, and inadequate
      1. gameover65
        gameover65 17 September 2013 05: 00
        0
        dear man, does that mean you said that the Varangian is already in Australia?
        at the end of August, preparations for the campaign were just begun.
        you are inadequate, not me laughing
  28. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 16 September 2013 21: 21
    +3
    Now we possess not only aircraft capable of operating from the deck, and not only ships from which aircraft can take off.

    The statement is somewhat incorrect. De facto, we have one TAVKR "Kuznetsov", and "Vikramaditya" is the property of the Indian Navy. What the author of the article confirms below:
    The other day, the control of the aircraft carrier took Commodore Barry. Now, Indian sailors under the guidance of sailors of the Belomorsky naval base begin to master the ship.

    Again, this is not entirely correct statement. Indian sailors, having completed basic training and passing exams, become understudies for naval specialists. This means that the ship's crew and the commissioning plant crew, plus the Indian crew, are on watch at the operating mechanisms, gaining experience in its "independent" maintenance. The pros, having made sure that the sons are "stuck" and are able to independently carry the watch, quietly shed into the cabins. Remains ours and comrades. Then ours, under the pretext: "I'm running to the latrine, you stay here a little", follow the working class. Finally, the moment comes when the receiving crew takes over the watch. We skated, reported on the identified malfunctions. We eliminated them, completed all the exercises, carried out the CBU at the control exit. The State Commission signs the acceptance certificate. I don’t know how now, before the ship went for revision: everything was cleaned, painted, brought to shine, nameplates in the "English language" were screwed wherever it was supposed to.
    Then a solemn ceremony of the official transfer of the ship. The sailors - in the BMK to the disco, the officers - to the Baltiya hotel for a buffet on behalf of the plant and the Fleet Command. At least that was the case when the first Indian frigate, in my opinion the Talwar, surrendered. It was a long time ago, I could be wrong with the name.
  29. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    NOBODY EXCEPT US 16 September 2013 21: 42
    +3
    Go ahead! Create an underwater aircraft carrier! Secrecy is provided, though the landing will be vertical and take off too .... if you can have fun, you can probably come up with, what do you think, gentlemen, specialists?
  30. m0roder
    m0roder 16 September 2013 21: 58
    -4
    Vikramaditya ... I would rather see you at the bottom of the sea than in the Indian fleet !!!!!! am
    1. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 22: 55
      0
      enemy? noticeably noticeable
  31. dmit-xnumx
    dmit-xnumx 16 September 2013 22: 09
    0
    I can imagine how the guys-shipbuilders "fell off their shoulders"! Well done! Our Fleet will need aircraft carriers - they will not need them, they will decide, naval ones, but our masters will be able to build already!
  32. garik77
    garik77 17 September 2013 01: 58
    +2
    It is a pity that this magnificent ship leaves us. Somewhere deep down I unconsciously wanted the Indians to abandon him ...
  33. So_o_tozh
    So_o_tozh 17 September 2013 05: 23
    0
    Yes, yes, but we delivered a Varangian to China, he had no reason for Russia ???
  34. Admiral 013
    Admiral 013 17 September 2013 07: 58
    0
    The Indians, so the T-90 tanks more than ours! Yes, with our help, they will overtake us on aircraft carriers!
    1. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 22: 56
      0
      so on occasion, even if they are at war, is it not clear that in the case of any mess with China ...
  35. 006 Feliks
    006 Feliks 17 September 2013 08: 03
    0
    or maybe we’ll start building aircraft carriers ourselves? soldier
    1. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 22: 57
      0
      maybe when we finish the project
  36. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 17 September 2013 11: 17
    +1
    Here again, these idle talks about how it turns out to simply destroy the AUG. Tired of reading this nonsense. Answer then why in PEACEFUL I emphasize PEACEFUL conditions for the CONDITION again I emphasize the CONDITIONAL destruction of AUG Lyachin (blessed memory of him) was given the Hero of RUSSIA. After all, this is such a trifle. After all, the AUG can only be fought with the Papuans.
  37. Selevc
    Selevc 17 September 2013 14: 01
    0
    Quote: Selevc
    but he (Stalin) would have lost everyone (sharashka, deserters and frightened people) - not the best atmosphere for work
    But how did you lose it? - the same Korolev and the company launched wooden gliders into the sky as early as the 30s, and in the 50s they launched a satellite into space ... Where is even cooler? And so the whole world was overtaken ...
    And by the way, almost all Soviet scientists, having left their sharazhki for some reason, did not run abroad and worked further in their country - and now they are fleeing to the West even without sharazhki ... Maybe it's not the leader of the country but the banal crisis of patriotism?
  38. chushoj
    chushoj 17 September 2013 15: 17
    0
    For Russia, this means: no matter what the child is amusing, the spoon is the road to dinner.
    http://svpressa.ru/war21/article/74359/