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On an extremely clear awareness of the coming war

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A few days ago a post was published. The inscription on the third table Vladislav Vladyslavovich Shurygin (shurigin), in which he very vividly, capaciously and accurately described our quite probable future: “The war will be transferred to us like a plague through the fortress wall: ... all this“ darkness ”rises to our borders and falls upon us, and behind the“ darkness ”, Covering it with their latest missiles and airplanes, saturating it with the most modern weapons, the "Neo-Crusaders" will go!


You can't say more precisely, right? I note only that the word “darkness” could not be quoted. The darkness became quite real, the darkness became our everyday empiricism, having lost all metaphysical meaning.


Surprisingly, of course, but for almost a quarter of a century, American hegemony did not bring peace and peace to the “Eurasian Balkans”: on the contrary, the zone of instability is expanding permanently, drawing in all new countries. This scheme, taken from the book by the American politician Zbigniew Brzezinski "The Great Chessboard", first published in 1997, is incredibly outdated. Largely due to the verified and precise policy of the world hegemon ...

But the darkness has not yet come to our borders, therefore, we can try to hold it at distant approaches, counterattack in all environments — on land and at sea, in the air and space, in cybernetic and information spaces! You can grind the avant-garde there, in the "zone of instability" around the "Eurasian Balkans" (in the terminology of the theorist of this instability - Zbignev Brzezinski)!

In this regard, a quite reasonable question arises: how can our country help Syria? How could we beat the enemy there, thousands of kilometers from our borders?
Answering this question, it is necessary, as it seems to me, to raise the guiding documents of those very "neo-Crusaders", these "masters of darkness." In the Western, or rather, in the American military terminology, there are two very interesting concepts:

- the threat of accessibility to the area of ​​warfare (anti-access challenge) - these are factors that hinder or completely prohibit the penetration of troops into the area of ​​military action (factors may be geographical, military or diplomatic);

- the threat of counteraction within the areas of conduct of military operations (area denial challenge) are the factors affecting the ability of troops to effectively carry out their combat missions (in essence, this is the technical and technological ability of the enemy to stifle the actions of the US military).
As part of the study of this issue, the US Army Command even ordered a separate study of one of the world's largest think tanks - the RAND corporation (see the report "2013," The Army's Role in Overcoming Anti-Access and Area Denial Challenges ").

So, based on the analysis of the governing documents and research works, it can be argued that Russia has a serious potential to significantly reduce the likelihood of the onset of foreign aggression against Syria. Another question is that, by moving in this manner along the razor's blade itself, we can one day get several carrier strike groups near our border or even join another world. By the way, I do not rule out such a scenario, when they will punish us for a position on Syria by purely economic and informational means, causing destabilization of the internal political situation that could lead to a change of political regime. As the wonderful Russian writer Alexander Prokhanov noted in one of his speeches, "the Syrians themselves said that they understand that Russia will not start a world war because of them."

So how can we help Syria?

From the point of view of the “threat to the accessibility of the area of ​​military operations”, these are, of course, diplomatic means: active work on the UN Security Council’s platform, as well as holding bilateral talks with all countries located in the region, primarily the Islamic Republic of Iran, or measures depending on the region, for example, the People’s Republic of China and Japan. The intensification of diplomatic work with Muslim countries - the position of the President of Indonesia, voiced during the G-20 summit, came as a complete surprise to our President, as was the position of the political leadership of India. So, we still have room to fight, and we can maneuver, look for new allies.

In addition, we provide the transit of cargo and military equipment, and in the near future we will probably ensure the withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan - a very painful topic for them, and we should not forget about this either.

If we talk about the military and geographical factors that can prevent the access of "neo-Crusaders" to the area, then everything is much more complicated. There can be no geographical interference, however, from the point of view of military resistance, we could provide the Syrians:

- additional supplies of weapons of all types, by signing relevant agreements;

- military instructors who are able in a short time to train the staff of the Syrian army to work on the most modern Russian equipment and counterguerrilla actions;

- reconnaissance information received from satellites and radio intelligence satellites, reconnaissance ships operating in the Mediterranean and Black seas, undercover intelligence;

- I am not afraid of this word - "volunteers".

In essence, we could raise the archives and see what Comrade Stalin was doing when he defended the interests of the first proletarian state in the world on distant approaches - in the struggle for the freedom of Spain!
However, the most effective, in my opinion, would be the signing of an additional agreement with the Syrian government and the rapid deployment within the framework of this agreement of parts and units of air defense required under the conditions of probable intervention to protect Russian military facilities - the same point of logistics of the Navy ships. At the same time, the “civilized world community” will have to be made clear that, in conditions of tension, any unidentified target within the range of the air defense weapons will be confused - as an object representing a threat to the Russian military (citizens).

What is the affected area for the C-300 complex: from 5 to 150 kilometers depending on the modifications? And for the C-400 complex - all 400 kilometers? I will note that according to the information in the Atlas of the Officer reference supplement, the length of the entire Syrian coastline is the entire 173 kilometer. Thus, we could, albeit purely speculative, close a significant part of the territory of Syria from the attacks of sea-based and air-based cruise missiles. But this is only in theory.

To talk about another important tool for preventing aggression against Syria is essentially not to form an operational squadron: according to media reports, it is already slowly coming together. Of course, this will not be the famous Mediterranean squadron, but it will certainly become a factor.

From the point of view of "the threat of counteraction within the areas of conduct of hostilities," then in this case, as follows from the statements of the American military-political leadership, there will be no ground phase. Consequently, the struggle with the new force will unfold between the subjects already present in the clearing - government troops and gangster formations of all stripes and breeds brought, apparently from all over the world.

I believe that most of what has been said above is already being implemented: it is likely that negotiations are currently under way for the supply of additional parties. weapons - first of all necessary to repel an air strike and fight against bandit formations; probably, the Syrian military is assisted by our specialists - representatives of industry and military experts. Probably, intelligence is also not asleep, and will report at the right time about the rapidly approaching killer bombers.
However, let's repeat the key question: how could we help Syria? But how can we ourselves not get into the thick of war? How to push the "day of the coming of darkness under the walls of our fortress" for as long as possible?

In my opinion, the way out lies not in the military plane, to a greater extent today we are talking about the struggle for the minds, for the consciousness of the masses of people! The fight goes on in the information space, the fight is on the air and on the pages of the world's leading media. It is in this plane that we must finally learn to fight, to fight for real! Imagine a situation where, after the G20 meeting, the leaders of many other countries, for example, Vietnam, which remembers carpet bombing, defoliants and napalm bonfires, Algeria, which itself hangs in the balance of events in Syrian or Egyptian, would follow the example of the leaders of India and Indonesia. the script. Interestingly, how does the German public relate to possible US aggression against Syria — the Germans, one of our key economic partners, understand very well their strategic position in the world against the background of the presence of American military bases on their territory.

Imagine just for a minute that the slogan of Comrade Ernesto Guevara de la Serna (Che Guevara), adapted to the conditions of the struggle in the information space, worked out: “Let's create two, three, many Vietnam!”? And each of these “vietnams” would be decorated in a single information key, that is, planned according to place and time, verified, became an element of the very new type of weapon - the organizational weapon, which the United States has so successfully used for many years.
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  1. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 16 September 2013 15: 33
    +7
    How scary it all began: "darkness has become quite real, darkness has become our daily empiricism, having lost all metaphysical meaning," how everything continued in an amateurish way: "What is the affected area for the S-300 complex: from 5 to 150 kilometers, depending on the modifications "And for the S-400 complex - all 400 kilometers? I will note that according to the reference supplement" Atlas of the officer "the length of the entire Syrian coastline is only 173 kilometers. Thus, we could, albeit purely speculative ...". And how it all ended banally: "In my opinion, the way out does not lie in the military plane, to a greater extent today we are talking about the struggle for the minds, for the consciousness of the human masses! The struggle is in the information space, the struggle is on the air and on the pages of the world's leading mass media. It is in this plane that we need to finally learn how to fight, to fight for real! " Even English terms didn't help.
    Curiously, on what fronts this "general" received the title?
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 16 September 2013 17: 04
      +4
      Quote: serge-68-68
      How scary it all began: "darkness has become quite real, darkness has become our daily empiricism, having lost all metaphysical meaning",


      Although the article does not shine with bright thoughts, nevertheless, we should not forget about the image of darkness ...
      More specifically, this image is disclosed and a diagram of how THEY (servants of the yellow devil) will try to control it in the video by the military correspondent Musin Marat -
      http://www.myvi.ru/watch/Chej-zarin--Marat-Musin-Bdix0_BQbj7o4iMUWHo_Azq5Pr7g2
      or -


      beginning with approximately 31 = 00
      1. alone
        alone 16 September 2013 21: 02
        +1
        I listened to the musin and you know what came to mind? you have to build a concrete bunker))) I think the doctor of economic sciences, Mr. Marat Musin, should seriously deal with all the same economic issues. Nevertheless, everyone should do what he knows well. hi
    2. zart_arn
      zart_arn 16 September 2013 18: 13
      +2
      Curiously, on what fronts this "general" received the title?

      So it's autumn in the yard, the aggravation of the "general" began.
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 16 September 2013 20: 43
      +3
      Quote: serge-68-68
      How scary it all began: "the darkness has become quite real, the darkness has become


      C'mon ... normal article, you need to mature in the root. Questions are posed in the right questions. All you need to look back and use proven methods.
      1. GREAT RUSSIA
        GREAT RUSSIA 16 September 2013 22: 35
        0
        I agree, the story was created in order to take it into account.
  2. rate
    rate 16 September 2013 15: 35
    +3
    Che Guevara failed to create "three Vietnam". This will also fail. The mentioned states (India, Algeria, Indonesia) will resist the imposed chaos on their territory. Syria is an example for them.
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 16 September 2013 15: 55
      +1
      Yes, it was already under the USSR, maybe not Vietnam, but it was, under the auspices of the struggle, some for "communism", some for "democracy" ... military support also sucks a lot of "bucks", which are then written off, tk. "heroes of the war for a just cause" are not able to return them !!! bully
  3. matross
    matross 16 September 2013 15: 53
    0
    Yeah ... General Evidence
  4. Max otto
    Max otto 16 September 2013 15: 57
    +1
    Interestingly, what can be exacerbated in Kazakhstan? It seems that everything is (well, relatively) in order? The article falls to the side of paranoid delirium.
    1. ale-x
      ale-x 16 September 2013 16: 16
      0
      Uyghurs. A lot of them. They are evil.
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 17 September 2013 00: 45
        +1
        Quote: ale-x
        Uyghurs. A lot of them. They are evil.

        Uighurs against Kazakhs ??? I, a Kazakh, did not even know that we had problems with them)))) And that they are evil))) Throughout my whole life, I’m not like in real life, I haven’t even heard a single bad word from the Uyghur on the Internet. address of Kazakhs. The Uyghurs, who moved in several waves from neighboring China (more precisely, East Turkestan, aka Xinjian), have no reason for dissatisfaction - they have access to school education in their native language, there are Uyghur theaters, half of the stage are Uyghurs, Uyghur cuisine in KZ - on every corner , Uighur Karim Massimov was the head of the government of Kazakhstan for many years until recently, the Uyghurs live very well financially, no one interferes with their culture. So why are they "angry" at the Kazakhs? ))) They have no time to get angry - they work.
        Z.Y. Maybe you mixed Kazakhs with Chinese? It is there that the Uighurs buragozyat, and the Kazakh Uighurs for Kazakhstan will tear any buragoz zop to the British flag. Even taking into account their peacefulness.
        1. ale-x
          ale-x 17 September 2013 13: 53
          0
          What do you think? If, God forbid, of course, a mess starts in China (Xinjian-Uigur Autonomous Region), Kazakh Uyghurs will behave like that? And how will this affect the whole of RK?
          1. Marek Rozny
            Marek Rozny 17 September 2013 18: 06
            +4
            And how will they behave towards the Kazakhs? Where is the logic? If the Uyghur-Chinese massacre begins in the XUAR, then the Uyghurs in Kazakhstan will start fighting against the Kazakhs?
            If full-scale hostilities begin in the XUAR, the Uighurs, Kazakhs and other Turks will volunteer there to fight against the Chinese (although in words the Kazakh government will condemn "Uyghur separatism" so as not to worsen relations with the neighbor). In addition, the theme of "Islamic jihad" is being used here, under which all sorts of Wahhabis are creeped out. And the most remarkable thing is that the USA will willingly assist the Turkic-Muslim uprising in the XUAR of the PRC. So it makes no sense for the Americans to make a storm inside the KZ in this case.
            It is also unprofitable for the Chinese to arrange a storm in the KZ before the start of such a scenario of "anti-Chinese uprising in the XUAR". It is more profitable for them to conduct trade relations in order to receive resources from Kazakhstan. Wanting them to threaten the oil and gas pipelines stretching from Western Kazakhstan across the entire steppe to China? Why should they spoil relations with the Kazakhs if they understand that if something happens, the Kazakhs and the Russians will simply block China along the perimeter (given that the Americans and Indians have almost built a block along the lower edge). China is huge, but very vulnerable. it can be relatively easily squeezed within its own boundaries. Moreover, they have few allies - North Korea and Pakistan.
            There remains one more hypothetical troublemaker in Kazakhstan - this is Russia. But here, I think, you yourself understand that Moscow generally doesn’t need to arrange bucha and anarchy in the country with which it has the longest land border in the world. And any deterioration in relations with Astana will lead to the departure of the Kazakhs to another camp. Simply put, under Orenburg and Omsk in this case, American or Chinese troops can easily appear. Is the Russian Central Military District ready for such a scenario? Of course not.
            The Kazakhs built a system in which none of the geopolitical giants is unfavorable for the Afghanization of Kazakhstan.
            There may be some sharp points, but overall it is not profitable for anyone to allow exacerbations in the KZ.
    2. Hudo
      Hudo 16 September 2013 16: 25
      15
      Quote: Max Otto
      Interestingly, what can be exacerbated in Kazakhstan?


      The Phishington craftsmen have a particularly vile talent for finding those who will rebel for a pack of cut green paper even in paradise.
    3. Egor.nic
      Egor.nic 16 September 2013 17: 07
      +1
      Any relative stability will eventually become absolute instability. No need to go far for examples.
      In addition, Kazakhstan has a widespread Islamist radical underground, actively and widely fueled from the Caucasus and Arabia. While they are being grinded with our help by the local special services. Overthrow Nazarbayev, have already tried more than once, is it otherwise.
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 17 September 2013 01: 01
        +4
        Quote: Egor.nic
        Any relative stability will eventually become absolute instability. No need to go far for examples.

        Kazakh does not fight with Kazakh. This is the credo of the Kazakh nation. We never had civil wars.
        Quote: Egor.nic
        In addition, Kazakhstan has a widespread Islamist radical underground, actively and widely fueled from the Caucasus and Arabia.

        Islamists are, it is a fact. But much less than in Russia or the UK. And society condemns the Kazakhs, who mow down under the Arabs, because the Kazakhs (and indeed the Turks) are distinguished by the fact that they have never been particularly religious. Of course, we are mostly Muslim believers, but without fanaticism. And those who strongly hit the religion - most often in a couple of years depart from their ardent beliefs. Themselves. And who is inflated to the limit - fall on the pencil to the committee members.
        Quote: Egor.nic
        While they are being grinded with our help by the local special services.
        Just do not put it as if, thanks to the Russian special services in Kazakhstan, they are successfully fighting radicals. Our KNBs eat bread for good reason. We also transfer to the hands of the FSB schnicks your radicals who were hiding in the KZ.
        There are individuals who dream of Sharia, but if their hands itch, they usually go to fight with the Americans in Afghanistan, and they don’t make a mess at home. Those who tried to mingle at home got what they deserved.

        Quote: Egor.nic
        Overthrow Nazarbayev, have already tried more than once, is it otherwise.
        You did not confuse with Karimov?
        1. Pensioner
          Pensioner 17 September 2013 20: 55
          -3
          As for the overthrow of Nazarbayev, it is the Kazakh oppositionists themselves who write that they already have the first to be list, of the Kazakh blood-sucking millionaires and other close associates of Nazarbayev. Regarding the transfer of the capital by Nazarbayev from Almaty to Astana, many Kazakhs are considered a betrayal of the common people. In the event of cataclysms: earthquakes, floods, Chinese attacks — that simple people will be left to their own devices, and the entire elite of power, the entire Nazarbayev clique — will have the opportunity to be saved. Still closer to the defense of the Russian if that. Akayev, too, did something for himself in order to hide from the reprisals of his own Kyrgyz people in Russia. And the Uighurs are not quiet and humble, they are just smart. They do not demonstrate their strength stupidly and openly. They are somewhere like Russian, seemingly simple. But they can withstand the cunning omnipotent Chinese. They have a future, and you will still hear about them. I would like the Russians to understand the Uyghurs they became friends with them fraternally.
          1. Pensioner
            Pensioner 17 September 2013 22: 50
            -3
            I am here, on this site from time to time, but as soon as the truth about the Kazakhs - so some minuses .. Directly some kind of rabid clique here. On other websites and forums, there are at least different Kazakh opinions. And here some kind of pro-Nazarbayev ambitions - and don't say a word against - the Kazakhs will "minus". You are the wreckers of your people. Here you turn Russians against Kazakhs.
          2. Marek Rozny
            Marek Rozny 19 September 2013 09: 24
            +3
            I doubt that you know at least one surname of the Kazakh politician besides Nazarbayev, and you are all getting into discussions about domestic politics.
            About the transfer of the capital - absolute and dumb crap, giving out to you a person unfamiliar with the realities of Kazakhstan.
            Kazakhs saved Akayev and Bakiyev, and both Kazakhs and Kyrgyz know this. And this is one of the reasons for the Kyrgyz to mutter when they remember who brought the disgraced presidents out of their country.
            About Uyghurs - not tryndi. Neither good nor bad. You're stupidly not in the subject.
            Quote: Retired
            I’m here on this site from time to time, and as soon as the truth is about the Kazakhs, there are only minuses .. It’s just some kind of frantic clique here.

            Whoever writes adequately, the Kazakhs do not put minuses (and here different Kazakhs are both supporters of integration with Russia and opponents of Eurasianism, and supporters of Nazarbayev and his opponents). Well, if you write stupidity, then call, a pensioner, they will let you know that you wrote stupidity.
            In short, not bzdi, Kazakhs have never had and never will have internal conflicts. Our people do not fight with the people.
            Take care of your grandchildren and gardening. Well, or at least delve into the question before expressing something on this topic.
  5. Ddhal
    Ddhal 16 September 2013 16: 24
    +1
    What incoherent nonsense .. You see, the author, as I have not yet read Max Otto’s previous comment, called the article ...

    Everyone and sundry wants to earn a rating on the trouble of the people of Syria ..
  6. ATATA
    ATATA 16 September 2013 16: 26
    12
    There will be a war, this is certain.
    But to read such feuilleton as this article is, to be honest, disgusting.
    It’s unfortunate that professional military analytics is not published on the site.
    What can be done to prevent war I already wrote.
    To do this, you need PHYSICALLY Eliminate 500 families of Zionist warfare oligarchs.
    On the bowl is the death of 5-000 people, or several hundred million?
    The choice is obvious. hi
    1. zart_arn
      zart_arn 16 September 2013 18: 30
      +1
      Alas, this will not help. Remember the Soviet film "Kill the Dragon", when the killer of this dragon himself becomes him. It will be the same in your proposed situation - not the executioners themselves, so someone else will immediately turn into a Zionist oligarch. Narodnaya Volya also naively believed that with the assassination of the tsar freedom would come - it did not work out.
      In order to eliminate evil, you must first of all eliminate it in yourself. Read the comments - how much evil is in them, I have no doubt that English-language sites will also contain the same amount of evil in relation to us. Why all this? And then, so that we gnaw and hate each other, and the generals who "drink and eat our death" (BB Grebenshchikov) will reap the fruits of their vile work. Take McCain, for example, a notorious bastard, but we have more than enough of our own, and we often extol them as heroes. Enough about the scoundrels, what I wanted to say with this, but that there will be victory, but it will not be in clashes, but in victory over our own dragons and our own evil.
      1. VDV 80-82
        VDV 80-82 16 September 2013 20: 17
        0
        you do not touch old Mac, please! he is our boyfriend! alone brought harm to the Amer that when they were captured, their whole army breathed a sigh of relief wassat
      2. alexdol
        alexdol 16 September 2013 20: 59
        +1
        zart_arn RU "Alas, that won't help."
        -------------------------------------------------- ----
        And we are talking about the statement of ATATA: What I can do to prevent war, I already wrote.
        To do this, PHYSICALLY eliminate 500 families of Zionist warfare oligarchs.
        I, unlike you, fully agree with him! What's the use of talking about uselessness, you have to TRY to do something, and these "TVARI" have long earned themselves such a GRACE by their deeds! In any case, it won't make us any worse. This world behind the scenes has been pursuing anti-human policies for a long time. Here is a link to the material that I posted on my lit page on poetry.ru, it is called "On Western Civilization" http://stihi.ru/2010/01/02/2731
  7. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 16 September 2013 16: 48
    +1
    And what does the coast of Syria have to do with it? A cruise missile is not a bullet flying in the direction of a shot! Amateur you are my friend! A missile can fly in from any DIRECTION, as the route is programmed taking into account the delivery range of the hotel. fellow
    1. S-200
      S-200 16 September 2013 18: 12
      +1
      Quote: a.hamster55
      And what does the coast of Syria have to do with it? A cruise missile is not a bullet flying in the direction of a shot! Amateur you are my friend! A missile can fly in from any DIRECTION, as the route is programmed taking into account the delivery range of the hotel. fellow

      Of course, the physical principles of the flight of the Kyrgyz Republic allow this to be done, however ...
      Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq - closed their airspace for the US and NATO operations ... This means that it is FORBIDDEN to fly any military air targets, and unidentified intruders will be intercepted ...
      Why is this done?
      No friend or foe answering machine is installed on a cruise (etc.) missile
      therefore, it is impossible to determine whose rocket and for what purpose it flies over your territory ...
      For example, if several missile launchers (NATO nuclear submarines) are flying from the Mediterranean Sea in the direction of Israel (to fly to Syrian targets), then WHO will guarantee that it is not an Iranian submarine (neutral ship) that launched "under the guise" to cover carefree Jews fellow to the very heart of their defense?
      And no one will forbid the Syrians to bring down American KR over the territory of Israel or Turkey (if possible) ...
      Therefore, the practical passageways of the American KR were opened far on the entire perimeter of the Syrian border ...
      Of course, the Americans could not ignore this fact when planning raids ...
  8. leon-iv
    leon-iv 16 September 2013 17: 02
    +2
    - additional supplies of weapons of all types, by signing relevant agreements;
    "volunteers".

    Mdya
    It is important not only to deliver weapons, but to teach them how to use them. Put on the database maybe say. Syria receives all the necessary weapons.
    - military instructors who are able in a short time to train the staff of the Syrian army to work on the most modern Russian equipment and counterguerrilla actions;

    All this is and have always been involved with them.
    - reconnaissance information received from satellites and radio intelligence satellites, reconnaissance ships operating in the Mediterranean and Black seas, undercover intelligence;

    Well, but the group in the Middle East catches a sprat for beer.
    - I am not afraid of this word - "volunteers".

    Assad has repeatedly mentioned that he does not need volunteers and is right. What language will they speak? How will they coordinate their actions. Russians do not even know the Syrian obscene.

    Threat Putin can be blamed for a lot. BUT how does he act in Syria for this he is huge fat +
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 16 September 2013 18: 31
      +1
      And how did the Russians fight in Spain, ignorant of the Spanish language? Learn and very fast.
  9. Troy
    Troy 16 September 2013 17: 03
    0
    And what was new in this article?
  10. optimist
    optimist 16 September 2013 17: 06
    +5
    God forbid us to get into this boodyag! In 1914, too, they harnessed themselves for the "Serbian brothers" and lost the country. A war is easy to start, but very difficult to end. At the beginning of the century, RI held out for 3 years: the modern Russian Federation with a serious "mess" and 3 months will not last ...
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 16 September 2013 18: 26
      +1
      Quote: optimist
      In 1914, they also harnessed themselves for the "Serbian brothers"

      Are you serious?
      Quote: optimist
      At the beginning of the century, RI held out for 3 years: the modern Russian Federation with a serious "mess" and 3 months will not last ...

      How serious?
      If in full, then CIVILIZATION and 3 HOURS will not last.
      Quote: optimist
      God forbid we get into this bodyagi!

      Will we fit in after this?

      Will it be too late ?!
      1. optimist
        optimist 16 September 2013 18: 44
        0
        Quote: Cynic
        Will we fit in after this?

        Well then, go to the draft board and write a report with the appropriate request.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 16 September 2013 18: 48
          -1
          Quote: optimist
          Well then, go to the draft board and write a report with the appropriate request.

          Ah, you are one of these ...
          1. optimist
            optimist 16 September 2013 19: 35
            +1
            Quote: Cynic
            Ah, you are one of these ...

            Yes, of these. Which are friends with the head. Or at least try to do it.
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 16 September 2013 19: 50
              +2
              Quote: optimist
              Yes, of these. Which are friends with the head. Or at least try to do it.

              They don't seem to be friends, only if they try. In my opinion it is unsuccessful.
              Quote: Cynic
              Ah, you are from these
              that
              “No matter what happens!”

              Overall
              1. optimist
                optimist 16 September 2013 21: 02
                +1
                Well, why are you so worried? I’m not stopping you from going to the draft board ...
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 17 September 2013 14: 32
                  -1
                  Quote: optimist
                  Well, why are you so worried? I’m not stopping you from going to the draft board ...

                  Nu-nu, familiar notes erupted.
                  Military ticket ГГ No. ХХХ992, personal number Н-ХХХ624, and who are you?
                  Yes, why ask and it is so clear that in life you are only concerned about your rights, and that you do not want to know that there are obligations at all.
          2. alone
            alone 16 September 2013 21: 05
            0
            Do you think if 3MB starts, will you survive? all will perish, everything is absolute.
            1. optimist
              optimist 16 September 2013 21: 37
              0
              Quote: lonely
              Do you think if 3MB starts, will you survive? all will perish, everything is absolute.

              You cannot escape fate! laughing
              1. alone
                alone 16 September 2013 22: 24
                -1
                Do you know how many people think so? many people know how to shandarahnut from missiles in America, in every possible way excluding retaliation)))
                1. optimist
                  optimist 16 September 2013 22: 35
                  0
                  What exactly do you offer? Do you have any brilliant plan? Personally, I’m not afraid to die: my best years are already behind us. But if you fertilize the soil, then wisely. And not like our ancestors did in the years 1914-1917 ... Read the binder of the newspapers in the summer of 1914: you will find many interesting things ...
    2. Arabist
      Arabist 16 September 2013 22: 47
      0
      What is the basis for such a conclusion that Russia will not last three months?
      1. optimist
        optimist 16 September 2013 22: 59
        +1
        Quote: Arabist
        What is the basis for such a conclusion that Russia will not last three months?

        I'll try to explain. As soon as we get into a serious fight, the West will immediately cut off our food supplies and much more, take over our officials and military leaders through their accounts and real estate abroad, stop buying raw materials, etc. And since snickering Muscovites and St. Petersburg residents do not want to eat 30-year-old stew from the warehouses of NZ, they will take to the streets with the appropriate requirements. As they say: "game over". And note: I didn't say anything about the military component. And it is such that it will be necessary to carry out a partial mobilization of l / s and private material resources. I doubt that the military registration and enlistment offices will have crowds of people wishing to die for Putin-Medvedev-Abramovich-Deripaska, etc. And business will sabotage by all means. Enough arguments? I will also add that the army has not recovered from the "reforms" and it is not known when this will happen ....
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 16 September 2013 23: 07
          +1
          No, not enough. There were no more reasons and desires to fight for Stalin than for Putin. If you take products in a store, you can learn with interest that the vast majority of products of foreign firms are made in Russia. About the military, even the unfortunate Libya lasted six months, and comparing the Libyan army with the Russian army will be a sign of a very big mind. How much came out to support the opposition and how much the current regime probably know for yourself. I see no reason to panic.
          1. optimist
            optimist 16 September 2013 23: 29
            +1
            Quote: Arabist
            I see no reason to panic.

            And no one panics. We will not argue: time will judge us. A small anecdote in the subject: The captain of the boatswain's cruiser calls: "Listen, -the torpedo is coming at us, -have the crew with something. The boatswain gathers the sailors: Do you want me to knock on the deck and the cruiser will sink? the device knocks, the cruiser breaks and sinks. The captain swims up to the boatswain in the water: you shouldn't have done that, the torpedo passed by ...
            1. Arabist
              Arabist 16 September 2013 23: 31
              +1
              Something a joke is not funny. Don't know better? And time will judge us, Chronos does not give preference to anyone.
              1. optimist
                optimist 16 September 2013 23: 53
                +2
                Quote: Arabist
                Something a joke is not funny.

                May be. But on the other hand, vital: no need to x .. on the deck (to climb into Syria). You look, and the "torpedo" will pass by. Learn history, dear: very useful !!!
                1. Arabist
                  Arabist 17 September 2013 15: 59
                  0
                  Do you teach jokes about history? I know history without you. And is it here at all?
  11. Blondin nikonov
    Blondin nikonov 16 September 2013 17: 33
    0
    we have already climbed into this tramp and reversing will mean the inability of our great country to defend its nat. interests, which in turn will only warm the appetite of the aggressor .....
  12. jasper
    jasper 16 September 2013 17: 42
    0
    "bodyaga" has already chosen us
    1. 31231
      31231 17 September 2013 06: 09
      0
      Oga, both with Vietnam and Korea. And the third world is all dumb!
      Because everyone is aware that the age of nuclear weapons has come.
  13. pahom54
    pahom54 16 September 2013 17: 48
    0
    Fuck ... The fact that the world is in a state of tension is clear to everyone. However, surrendering to Syria and not taking measures to protect it, Russia will simply show itself as a weak fighter (so far on the diplomatic fronts) and AGAIN will allow itself to dictate terms on the part of the States and their allies. Therefore, the policy of our president is clear: Syria - HELP !!!
    Well, as for the intimidation of the encirclement of Russia with "darkness" and the fifth column ... Not everything is so bad. The states love to wave a club and bark, BUT VIETNAM WILL BE AFRAID ON ITS TERRITORY, and it will happen anyway if they involve Russia in any hostilities, even indirectly ... And if someone recalls how Russia got involved because of Serb brothers in the First World War, then we should not forget that the States, as part of the Entente, then fought on foreign territories, AND NOW THE WAR MAY COME TO THEM ON THE TERRITORY IN MINUTES !!! The threat is now coming (not just to Russia, although she too) from those who were soaked by the crusaders in ancient and old centuries ... And in the article they say that Russia is threatened by Neo-Crusaders ... You are looking for a threat in the wrong place, the Yankees with their own hands (and feet) to us, the mind should be enough, but the paws of others ... And from here the CONCLUSION: it is necessary not to talk about, but to carry out a tough foreign policy of achieving the goals Russia needs, and for this to arm, arm and arm, which is now doing President Putin. GOOD SHOULD BE WITH FISTS and then the so-called "darkness" are not terrible for us, and the fifth column should be driven under the bunks by force, up to expulsion from the country. While they are barking here on Bolotnaya, the Yankees are feeding them, but in the USA and Geyrop they will become useless to anyone at once ... Let the tread be harder to keep the GDP, and the patriots of Russia will support it.
  14. slacker
    slacker 16 September 2013 18: 03
    0
    Strengthen primarily the nuclear missile shield. Then air defense and air force. The next priority is the Ground Forces. And at the end of the list is the fleet.
  15. Arkan
    Arkan 16 September 2013 18: 11
    0
    The author is right, it is necessary to respond to the strategy with a STRATEGY.
  16. coserg 2012
    coserg 2012 16 September 2013 18: 12
    +1
    I have to do with everything only in connection with urgent service. But excuse me, the article reminds me of an old woman at a broken trough. And then her lamentations "Everything, darkness, war, sentries are coming at us! The threat of accessibility, the threat of opposition, etc." Of course , this is my personal opinion, but he wrote a typical "parquet" general, if he really is a general. How will he flatten and sausage a real general after reading this article? I put (-).
  17. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 16 September 2013 18: 27
    -3
    Quote: Max Otto
    Interestingly, what can be exacerbated in Kazakhstan? It seems that everything is (well, relatively) in order? The article falls to the side of paranoid delirium.

    You probably don’t know or don’t remember how pogroms against Russians were organized during the Soviet era in Kazakhstan, cut, burned, or simply killed! Yes, this republic was worse than modern Chechnya, because Russian then could not answer!
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 17 September 2013 00: 23
      +2
      Are you from a fool?
  18. ing
    ing 16 September 2013 18: 38
    0
    It seems to me that it is best to oppose economically, that is, to get out of the dollar and organize a CU with as many participants as possible, as well as to strengthen the SCO, including the military component. This is more in line with the idea of ​​survival in the conditions of "the creeping of darkness2 ALSO ME IT SEEMS "THOUGHT TOV STALIN.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 16 September 2013 18: 42
      +2
      Quote: ing
      that is, to get out of the dollar to organize ...

      Muammar Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein just hinted.

  19. 31231
    31231 16 September 2013 18: 50
    +1
    These crazy arrows on the map remind me of Chapaya potatoes.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 16 September 2013 19: 15
      +4
      Quote: 31231
      Chapaya potatoes remind me


      And who says _ Doesn't work?
  20. them
    them 16 September 2013 18: 54
    +2
    Yes, no Syria volunteers are needed! And the S-300 if they don’t save it. But if you block oxygen to the sponsor of the war and the main threat to our oil-dependent economy, the Saudis and Qatar ... From the realm of fiction? Maybe. But you cannot win a war with just one defense.
  21. NMDzAM
    NMDzAM 16 September 2013 19: 27
    0
    It is necessary to actively use all the opportunities to help Syria.
    The United States will collapse at one point if people around the world stop using dollars. The process is already underway ...
  22. individual
    individual 16 September 2013 21: 28
    +1
    After Yeltsin’s time of humiliating the army and reforming the stools in the army, Russia is rearming and the army is gaining a new face. But there is another problem of real threats.
    We will believe that we will survive this misfortune.
    We must have less faith in the various prophets and their predictions.
    Less mysticism, more real affairs, and it’s never too late to turn to the Stalinist legacy of foreign policy.
  23. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 16 September 2013 22: 27
    0
    The arrows on the map, in some places in the wrong direction. And the fact that there will be war in the region, for some reason I have no doubt.
    smile
  24. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 16 September 2013 22: 44
    0
    Some kind of mixture of soft and warm ...
    IMHO
  25. stranik72
    stranik72 17 September 2013 06: 20
    +1
    That's right, maybe the language of presentation is peculiar, but the fact that such states as the USSR do not fall apart by themselves, and all these colored velvet revolutions cannot do without the participation of our "bosom" partners is a fact. There are serious factors in favor of the author's arguments, the existence of a serious 5th column in Russia and the not very wise policy of the authorities to oppose it. The situation in the Caucasus, the injection of money into the opponents (to put it mildly) of Russia. The economic (mediocre) policy is primarily in the production sphere, the most striking example is Roscosmos and the United Aircraft Corporation. Rearmament of the army, money is often invested in weapons that are worse than existing ones. Well, the human factor, until a sound social policy is carried out, until there is a struggle for the people (and not a talking shop), especially in Russian villages, we will be in danger.
  26. Shdo
    Shdo 17 September 2013 07: 44
    +1
    Not an article, but a vinaigrette. From easy Trotskyism to messianism and vice versa.
    How can we help Syria? And who knows the real extent of our assistance, and not only ours, but also China, Iran? Who knows how much more we have to invest in this conflict? Who can say with confidence that Assad will not die tomorrow at the hands of traitors or suicide bombers and that the regime will not collapse in 2 of the day? and who then will get all that we bring Syria?
    It is clear that help is necessary, but Russia is already doing more than anyone could have expected from it. And what the author offers is direct participation in the conflict. And how many of us will suffice in this case? With Afghanistan, it all started in a similar way. What led everyone knows.

    Separately about volunteers. This is utter nonsense. I would not mind if the "Vostok" battalion was sent there, but our marines and paratroopers would be sent ...