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Nowhere to "wake up." On the inevitability of a new political language for the West and Russia

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Dear Readers,


Recently, in the wake of the confrontation between societies and the leadership of Western countries on Syria, the gay boycott of our Olympics and other topics related to Russia, entertainment such as reading and reprinting the opinions of ordinary Western readers of Western media articles has spread in Runet.

From reading these opinions ("Now I begin to respect the Russians," "Damn, we just run out of arguments against this KGB officer," "Jesus, what we have reached! The Russians defend our traditional values ​​better than us!") Many have the impression that America (France, Britain, Eastern Europe) is "slowly waking up."

If you are wondering what these opinions actually show, let's talk about it.

The point, in short, is. We have already written about the fact that Western elites operate with not quite adequate concepts. The fact that the Eastern European elites who repeat behind them like their asses are even more inadequate - too.

But there is a nuance. The comments of Western readers - so nicely approving of Russia - painfully demonstrate the same inadequacy. All these simple Western guys with a conservative bias, who are against wars, gay propaganda and the dictatorship of Wall Street, use the “conceptual alphabet” from some past era. More truly, even from several.

For example, they scold Obama for the fact that attention is a communist. And they add a hammer and sickle to it on their demotivators.

At the same time, American conservative commentators blamed Communist Obama also for the fact that the laying of Wall Street - the citadel of Jewish speculative capital, bought the US government in the bud.

At the same time, they curse the communist and the litter of speculators also for the desire to fight for the Islamists, because the Arab sheiks also bought the US government at the root.

It all means: “ordinary Americans” also have no adequate language for describing the modern world.

That is, the inability to identify phenomena and call them is a problem not only of the conditional “Western elite”, but also of “civil society”.

That is, in the strange throwing that engulfed the Western world, we are not just seeing a crisis of elites. This is a crisis of the elite production system itself. And since the elites are formed for specific values ​​and goals, this means that they have problems with the production of goals and values.

Roughly speaking, until recently everything was simple and clear. The highest value in the world is labor. Those who work hard have a lot of money. Who has a lot of money - that and power. Who else deserves it, except for workaholics.

And we will be fair. This formula at one time spawned a great American business.

And when, for example, the great American business mastered the new boundless country of America, built cities and laid railroads - the formula worked: the money really was for those who worked on development tasks, and naturally they were transferred to power.

And relatively recently, when the great Western business was engaged in the "neocolonization" of the rest of the world, including Eastern Europe and the former USSR, and seized its markets - this formula also has not yet disproved itself. Let then not only the tasks of development, but the tasks of mastering external spaces were solved - but there was no expansion in this.

But now, having survived its peak and having fallen into a global crisis, this formula for selecting elites and goals generates natural glitches. Because the money that the authorities here and there end up in the hands of groups and individuals who received them according to the rules of Western society, but all the others (the main ones, in fact) saw their values ​​in a coffin.

It was not only financial speculators or gay lobbyists from this very world that got into power over the Western world, but the types were completely outside it - like the oil billionaires from the Arabian Peninsula. Which European civilization installation development and knowledge to the lantern.

The degeneration of the formula "labor-success-power" in the so-called. the civilized world is manifested in a whole placer incidents - from small to global. From last year’s Christmas tree scandal in the Danish town of Kokkedal, where it was forbidden to celebrate Christmas with Muslim taxpayers in the local council. And up to the global glitch, under which the US administration, 10 for years, fought tightly against Islamist terrorism, today this terrorism - in its literally cannibalistic form - supports it in its struggle against a secular tolerant republic.

…So. These glitches, of course, the Western "simple guys" and the conservative publicists generated by them are aware. But at the same time, the very buggy formula is stitched in their basic worldview. And therefore, it is as possible to dispute it for them as it was for the late Soviet conservatives who opposed the “people's fronts” in the national republics and the “Yeltsin democrats” in Moscow, it was possible to critically rethink Marxist dogmas in the only known Suslov edition.

As a result, the war of words of these Western conservatives for returning to good old America (or Europe there) more and more resembles the hopeless heroic war of words “Anpilovskie attendants” for our Soviet homeland in 90.

“Anpilovskie grandmothers”, drawing posters against the dermokrats and unwrapping red banners on the avenues, also did not notice that they were marching among the very specific redistribution of privatized state property, hindering the passage of jeeps. They did not notice that they speak the language of a dead reality, using concepts that are insignificant for their own children and grandchildren, who are busy surviving and embedding in a new ugly world.

The current Western "conservatives" - about whom they write about us saying that it’s necessary, America is slowly waking up - in many of its manifestations the same Anpilov activists. Only with the Internet and own radio stations instead of leaflets and newspapers sold at the metro.

Just as our belated conservatives appealed to the times of “correct socialism,” they appeal to some times of “fair and honest business,” when speculators were separated from normal businessmen and did not have the will.

They have their own Stalin (by the name of Roosevelt), who, I remember, pressed these speculators.

And even there are recipes for restoring justice that are thrifty, like “restoring Soviet power and returning enterprises to the people” - for example, I don’t know, “canceling the Bretton Woods system and returning to the gold standard.” And the other arsenal of concepts that seem to have meaning and significance, but - have no mechanisms for practical implementation.

And this, dear readers, is the very case when America (France, Germany, Britain) has no place to wake up. For the language of their “traditional society” describes 2010's reality is no more practical than the language of “Labor Russia” of the middle of 90's - the reality of privatization. That is, the emotions seem to be correct, but not applicable to practice.

Well, simply because all their honest labor capitalism was just the same development tool as our Stalinist labor Marxism. And not the main content of the development. And the tool is good only when it solves the tasks set by the era in an adequate way.

And if the prescription of salvation offered to them by society is reduced to the fact that society should cease to be as it is now, and with a strong effort to wind back, at the moment when the formulas worked, then the tool is outdated and has become obsolete.

Today, in developed countries, there is no longer the agrarian-industrial majority, nor the giant draft armies, nor the threat of overpopulation, nor the constant threat of epidemics with crop failure. So, the era poses no tasks at all that a hundred years ago, when all this happened. Now the majority is occupied by others, and the armies have become a tiny tech-based class, and overpopulation is not visible. And the very concept of labor has now changed, and the concept of well-being, and even the concept of property.

Now the era is much more interested in how to build a new techno-layout; how to make mass research work; how to translate into reality his work and how to synchronize with each other obtained in the branching branches of knowledge; how, at the same time, one should not lose the cultural unity of society and preserve its very reproduction at a simple biological level.

In the face of these tasks, many confrontations become irrelevant. Including such venerable ones as enmity between “private initiative” and “communism”, between “religion” and “secular state”, between “individual freedom” and “public interests”. In the new world, individual freedom can easily be in the interests of society, the implementation of communist ideals desperately requires private initiative, and religion and a secular state clearly need each other to survive.

This means that any society that claims the status of an advanced one needs a new set of conceptual tools. Which would cease to sculpt contradictions where there are none, and could embody the original basic values ​​in modern reality.

There is no such new language of concepts in the Western world. They all think "dictatorships", "democracies", "free enterprise" and "government intervention", and measure well-being in dollar GDP per capita.

But, oddly enough, the chances of being the first to invent this language are with us. Far greater than that of the more informationally and intellectually powerful West.

Because we, unlike him, have no ideology yet. So, we just start from scratch. And not from the minus, which is undoubtedly the ideology that exists, but deeply inadequate.
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  1. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 16 September 2013 13: 02 New
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    Well, uv. VO, this is a statement of the axiom, like, the water is wet, it’s good when it’s good and bad, if it’s bad.
    Of course, it is fatal for a state to live in conditions of vicious deideologization for more than 25 years. The fruits are obvious, the USSR is not there and Russia is on its way, miraculously still holds on (as General Field Marshal Khristofor Antonovich Minich said: “Russia is controlled directly by the Lord God. Otherwise it is impossible to imagine how this state still exists”).
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 September 2013 13: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: Author Victor Marakhovsky
      “Jesus, what have we come to! Russians defend our traditional values ​​better than us! ”


      Well, now they are also attributing universal values ​​to themselves. People have no conscience, at first they vote for fagots and then cry about lost values
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 16 September 2013 20: 38 New
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        Quote: Vadivak
        People have no conscience, at first they vote for fagots and then cry about lost values

        Concept Value and conscience , for the like, is equivalent to a bank account, which outside of it is unattainable for them, not with a mind or a heart. They have neither the first nor the second.
      2. jasper
        jasper 17 September 2013 20: 14 New
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        what is the holy news? they have long been praying for mammon hi
    2. seller trucks
      seller trucks 16 September 2013 14: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: Peaceful military
      Well, uv. VO, this is a statement of the axiom, like, the water is wet, it’s good when it’s good and bad, if it’s bad.


      (+) this is right, you are a granny from me, but to the article (-), he is not for what I am against, just for, minus for nothing.

      and this

      let's talk about it.


      like at a psychiatrist’s appointment
      1. Alexei
        Alexei 16 September 2013 18: 14 New
        +1
        And I (+) set. Quite correctly, the author described the "dead end" that is now taking place in the world. Yes, each of us sits deep in the brain the ideal of how everything should be around. Norm, only
        neither the threat of overpopulation nor the constant threat of epidemics
        You can argue with that.
      2. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 16 September 2013 22: 21 New
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        (+) this is right, you are a granny from me, but to the article (-), he is not for what I am against, just for, minus for nothing.

        I have the honor, Vital!soldier
        good laughing
    3. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 20: 16 New
      +1
      25 years to live in a vicious deideologization

      Well, you are driven, de-ideologization is possible in only one case. we all came to the liturgy, mass, at the same time, liberalism is the same leftist ideology as communism
  2. Sewer
    Sewer 16 September 2013 13: 04 New
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    It’s possible to listen to whoever writes in a degrading West, but don’t just wind it up! Is it a consequence of degradation that is already turned out, in part it’s songs of flatterers who just wait for the moment to drive a knife in the back and so on, good from them in any There will be no case! Of course there is a part that understands that the Western world is rapidly flying to hell, moreover, constantly coming up with ways to accelerate the fall-pallet!
    But we don’t have any ideologies now! No, it does exist, but these are disparate groups of patriots, each of which claims to be more patriotic than the other and all taken together! We need a state will to create a universal ideology, but something our rulers are doing it’s okay, but it’s not a problem either, or from not knowing how to get it out, or most likely from the fact that they don’t need it, since they protect the interests of a completely different people, and certainly not ours!
    1. Tarpon
      Tarpon 16 September 2013 13: 38 New
      +6
      It is necessary to listen and analyze!
      Article +
    2. eplewke
      eplewke 16 September 2013 13: 57 New
      +4
      General ideology needs a very powerful push! Very strong social shock! Those in the 20th century were usually wars and revolutions. But in the 21st century, it really hurts like he wants ...
      1. jasper
        jasper 17 September 2013 20: 18 New
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        Yeah, arrange another massacre in the glory of freedom, equality and fraternity, and then discover. what do Jews rule around? angry
      2. Just
        Just 18 September 2013 14: 04 New
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        Wars and revolutions were a fruit or an instrument, not a cause. Reasons always lie in the economic plane. What before, what now.
    3. kargrom
      kargrom 16 September 2013 14: 07 New
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      “It’s possible to listen to whoever writes in a degrading West, but don’t just wind up on the mustache.” - I would change it to need and wind up on the mustache.
      1. Sewer
        Sewer 16 September 2013 15: 11 New
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        I am in the sense of listening but not relaxing! It was probably not expressed correctly in the first post!
    4. habalog
      habalog 16 September 2013 20: 32 New
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      Quote: Sewer
      We need a state will to create a universal ideology


      Breaking the logical chain or shifting responsibility? The state is the essence of a highly organized tool (social) for the survival and maintenance of the aspirations of the people (s) or certain sections of the population. The tool told the master about how the master should live?
      There will be no national idea from above. Because the state, like any tool, is clamped within its functionality. An idea from him will be clamped by the same framework. The National Idea, in my opinion, is obliged to expand the borders, to encourage the development of new "concepts", "spaces". Where can she come from? Probably from the collective conscious.

      Perhaps, under the will of the state, did you mean the People’s Will?
      1. jasper
        jasper 17 September 2013 20: 19 New
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        our terrorists? Most of the Jews?
    5. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 20: 17 New
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      Do you think in the 20s we were better from a moral point of view? Is it in vain that the IVS restored the imperial article of the Criminal Code on pederasty in 34?
  3. Reasonable, 2,3
    Reasonable, 2,3 16 September 2013 13: 33 New
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    The article is incomprehensible. Well, and what conclusion did the author make? -None. Regarding ideology, I disagree. For example, I and Ko-she have it is Russian statehood. Russia is a separate civilization, and generally accepted dogmas are never quoted here.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 September 2013 13: 58 New
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      Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
      Russia is a separate civilization


      Definitely, as soon as we merge in European or American ecstasy, that's all,

      We will find our like-minded people, our allies and assistants in Russia itself. Episode by episode will be played out with a grandiose scale tragedy of the death of the most rebellious people on Earth, the final, irreversible fading of their self-consciousness. Literature, theater, cinema - everything will depict and glorify the most base human feelings. We will do our best to support everyone who will instill in the human mind a cult of sex, violence, sadism, betrayal - in a word, all immorality.

      Alain Dallas, former CIA Director
      1. jasper
        jasper 17 September 2013 20: 20 New
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        and began in the 18th century, a fascination with the French Revolution and Masonry
    2. matross
      matross 16 September 2013 15: 01 New
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      The article is excellent. For a long time there were none. That's what is missing - the conceptual apparatus of modern realities, any, political, economic, even social! And without it, the national idea is not formulated in any way. I foresee, they will object, on the topic Russian-Russian-Russian (regarding the idea). I’ll answer: it doesn’t channel and doesn’t punish if we want to see our Homeland within its current borders, at least. Internationalism, or rather the concept that will replace it, is extremely possible, in view of its attractiveness to all peoples, a form of arrangement of Russia.
      1. jasper
        jasper 17 September 2013 20: 20 New
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        yes there is everything, just cross your forehead hi
  4. Bigriver
    Bigriver 16 September 2013 13: 35 New
    +4
    That's it, kanets kina :)
    Western elites have been very concerned about brainwashing their supernatural people for a very long time. They invented all these templates, badges, tags, which were supposed to indicate complex phenomena in simple words. And they themselves became a victim of this language of symbols.
    The world is rapidly changing, and their development is not keeping pace with it.
    As Lavrov Sarkozy said about Saakashvili: “This fucking lunatic ...” Here they are, the whole Western elite are such lunatics.
    I just strongly disagree with this phrase:
    "... we have the first chances to invent this language. Much greater than that of more informational and intellectually powerful West"
    In terms of information - for now, yes. And about the mighty Western intelligence - this is probably a joke.
    1. piotr534
      piotr534 16 September 2013 17: 35 New
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      That's it, kanets kina :)
      Western elites have been very concerned about brainwashing their supernatural people for a very long time. They invented all these templates, badges, tags, which were supposed to indicate complex phenomena in simple words. And they themselves became a victim of this language of symbols.
      The world is rapidly changing, and their development is not keeping pace with it.
      As Lavrov Sarkozy said about Saakashvili: “This fucking lunatic ...” Here they are, the whole Western elite are such lunatics.
      I just strongly disagree with this phrase:
      "... we have the first chances to invent this language. Far greater than the more informational and intellectually powerful West."
      In terms of information - for now, yes. And about the mighty Western intelligence - this is probably a joke.
      I completely agree with you. The USSR and the USA as two mythological titans, created only to confront one another and remained clutching, when one went to the bottom the second followed him. In the case of Russia, the critical point is apparently passed and the country begins floating up from the bottom, but the United States is in the process of immersion. And the faster the amers cease to think in terms of the Cold War, the faster they will go through the crisis period, and if not, the process will drag on. One thing is not in doubt, the world will never be the same, and whoever lives in the past is simply doomed. hi
    2. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 20: 21 New
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      the technological era has changed, the books and newspapers published by the Politburo can no longer be taxied out, as well as tivi
  5. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 16 September 2013 13: 37 New
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    Well, honesty!
    "... smashed all the brains into pieces, swept all the convolutions ..." wassat
    And for me like this:
    - Being forms consciousness, i.e. accustomed to eating sweet and tasty drink, no one will voluntarily sit on any form of diet (food, economic, propaganda);
    - the presence of huge amounts of bank accounts, in the context of stagnation of the global economy, and the disinterest of a certain group of people in their standard application, gives the latter the opportunity to "invest" this money in the "newest" type of investment - redistributing the geopolitical world map in their own interests with the wrong hands of those whose army and economy have come to a critical point, beyond which only the collapse of the existing world order;
    - Forced coercion to consume genetically modified foods, as well as homosexual “reproduction” of homo sapiens, allows us to conclude that the current number of people living on the earth does not suit anyone very much.
    1. matross
      matross 16 September 2013 15: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      being forms consciousness accustomed to eating sweet and tasty drink, no one will voluntarily sit on any form of diet (food, economic, propaganda);

      This is true only as long as there is something to eat and drink. And as there will be nothing, here it is not voluntary, but by necessity. And if there are no fighting skills (they ate and drank their fill from childhood), then that's it - the collapse of life.
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      the presence of tremendous amounts in bank accounts

      That's for sure. All evil is from extra money.
    2. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 20: 23 New
      0
      world israel, the answer? laughing
  6. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 16 September 2013 13: 41 New
    +4
    Unfortunately, there are even more opinions on the large number of opinions that “I now respect Russians”, where the Russian Federation is fired both in the tail and in the mane. But all this is just a drop in the informational American river. Therefore, no one is particularly "waking up." Most Americans don’t give a damn about everything outside their borders if this “everything” does not hit their well-being. And the health care reform, which Obama seems to have dragged along, was much more debated than about Syria and Russia's position.
    As for the “modernization” of the political language, the idea is true, but they have been talking about it for about ten years (“it’s time for us to abandon the rhetoric of the Cold War” and “it’s time for us to abandon the rhetoric of the unipolar world” - we are the Yankees.). At the same time, under this rhetoric, both the Russian Federation and the USA are more or less successful in handling their affairs.
    As for the political language of the everyday level - it can be especially not taken into account in serious games.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 September 2013 14: 03 New
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      Quote: serge-68-68
      there are even more opinions where the Russian Federation is fired both in the tail and mane


      And very good. Only those who are worse than us speak badly of us.
    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 16 September 2013 14: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: serge-68-68
      Unfortunately, a large number of opinions that "I now respect Russian

      This by the way does not surprise me, because the American company Ketchum is the PR-agent of our government. They pay it pretty well, up to $ 20 million a year. Plus, separately for analytical notes and studies, about 50 million. In reality, such personalities as Peter Witt, former deputy ambassador of Germany, Tim Alan, worked in the press service of Tony Blair, Engus Roxberg, a journalist, but in 1988 he was expelled from the USSR as an English spy. Recently, the company engaged in advertising with the Kremlin was Gplus Europe ", a European company.
      1. jasper
        jasper 17 September 2013 20: 25 New
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        live with wolves howling with wolves, unfortunately Nicholas II did not understand this, it cost him too much Russia
    3. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 20: 24 New
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      so is the misfortune of our Westerners that are modern. that the 19th century (including Marxists) that we look in the mouth "west" and are waiting for approval
  7. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 16 September 2013 14: 07 New
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    Because we, unlike him, have no ideology yet. That means we should start from scratch.
    I do not agree a bit. We have an ideology. At least that America quickly bent. As a starting point for the formation of the ideology of "so-all-the-world-lived-by-the-rules-of-Russia" is suitable.
    1. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 20: 26 New
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      Third Rome hi We are the Empire, the opinion of the rest is violet!
  8. RUS96
    RUS96 16 September 2013 14: 23 New
    +4
    Quote: Peaceful military
    "Russia is ruled directly by the Lord God. Otherwise, it is impossible to imagine how this state still exists."

    To the point.
    1. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 20: 27 New
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      I repeat the Third Rome, the second fell, there will be no fourth!
  9. IGS
    IGS 16 September 2013 14: 30 New
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    "Reboot" will not help them, only formatting and installing a new "OS". But about our ideology ... here I do not agree with the author radically. Any ideology should be based on the set of internal values ​​and ideals that are accepted and supported in the mass for which this ideology is intended ... But we have these values ​​are far from 0, and any ideology had to and must be reckoned with, they are tested history, but human values ​​and ideals in the same USA were temporary, historically short (perhaps even erroneous, like taking a drug, high, but eventually killing). I did not write as a sociologist how I could smile The article is "+" anyway.
    1. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 20: 29 New
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      new? i.e. not perfect? and even how is communism borrowed in the west? maybe it’s better to take the old time-tested and capable of self-development?
  10. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 16 September 2013 15: 44 New
    +1
    And we will be fair. This formula at one time spawned a great American business.

    The author is unfair. Great American business has generated profit in two world wars. But not great work at all. This site does not need fairy tales about the great American dream and the founding fathers. These "fathers" were not able to achieve independence from England without the help of Russia and other countries. The rebellious colonies were doomed. They were saved by our Declaration on Armed Neutrality. And in general, this project called "USA" is very swollen, like a soap bubble. Perhaps it will burst soon.
    1. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 20: 29 New
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      Well, they took first place in industrial production before WWI, the absence of internal taxes helped and the absence of serious wars
  11. Cpa
    Cpa 16 September 2013 15: 46 New
    +2
    I think the best ideology is development, scientific and moral, coupled with all that it provides and protects. Any other ideology, as well as religion, no matter how good it may lead to a substitution of concepts. Examples of this substitution are seen from the article. ordinary people do not see ideology as seditious in bombing people (freedom), world fires of revolution (equality), ethnic crime, political clubs and lodges (brotherhood).
    At the moment, without an ideology in the country, the Russian consciousness is awakening. And this has nothing to do with nationalism and chauvinism, as it is based on justice. It is put into judgment exactly when they try to seize on the old (ideologists, religion). Any ideology does not live long because it is artificial in nature.
    Now there are more and more people who think without patterns and standards that call into question the priority of basic human needs, such as safety, food, procreation, self-affirmation in society. Their basicity is already in doubt, this base is characteristic of the animal, and does not distinguish it from him.
    A new man according to Vernadsky is something more than an animal. That’s why I understood and felt, for that, the future. The main thing to support and protect such people from those who are ready to kill for their animal needs.
    Then our country will become the cradle of a new mentality, the author of a new conceptual series, an incentive for the development of all mankind.
    1. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 20: 30 New
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      thinking without patterns? standards? gay men or something? hi
      denying yourself and your ancestors, you cannot build a future
  12. slacker
    slacker 16 September 2013 18: 08 New
    +1
    My version of ideology for our country is simple and straightforward: "The main value of the Russian people is Russia. The main value of Russia is the Russians." Everything else is a logical consequence of this postulate.
    1. jasper
      jasper 17 September 2013 20: 31 New
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      national socialism ??? (vomiting smiley) don't talk
  13. jasper
    jasper 17 September 2013 20: 13 New
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    For example, they scold Obama for the fact that attention is a communist. And they add a hammer and sickle to it on their demotivators.

    so this is the true truth, he with his reform of social medicine is building real communism for niggas loafers
  14. Just
    Just 18 September 2013 14: 02 New
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    Quote: Peaceful military
    Well, uv. VO, this is a statement of the axiom, like, the water is wet, it’s good when it’s good and bad, if it’s bad.
    Of course, it is fatal for a state to live in conditions of vicious deideologization for more than 25 years. The fruits are obvious, the USSR is not there and Russia is on its way, miraculously still holds on (as General Field Marshal Khristofor Antonovich Minich said: “Russia is controlled directly by the Lord God. Otherwise it is impossible to imagine how this state still exists”).

    Strange conclusion. Is the above article not the opposite?