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Israel suspected of having chemical weapons

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The declassified CIA document found indications that Israel at the beginning of 1983 had allegedly engaged in the manufacture of a chemical weapons. Perhaps Israel possesses it even now. According to an archival document that was dated 1983 year, American intelligence did not have reliable information on the production of chemical weapons by Tel Aviv. But she had some indications that at the disposal of the Israeli military there were at least mustard gas, toxic substances of a nerve agent, as well as a number of gases to suppress riots. Moreover, in Israel there were also delivery systems for these weapons.


According to a published document, in 1982, US satellites supposedly recorded the location of the chemical weapons production plant and its warehouse in the Negev desert near the town of Dimona, southeast of Beersheba. In addition, intelligence data pointed to the fact that for Israel’s well-developed chemical industry, it does not pose any difficulty in setting up the production of various types of toxic substances in other places.

The original CIA documents were published by The Foreign Policy magazine. It becomes clear from them that the United States has been following the Israeli chemical weapons program for several decades, trying not to advertise its presence. The CIA document, which published information about Israeli chemical weapons, was declassified as early as 2009, and related mainly to chemical weapons stocks in the USSR. Most of the information on programs for the development of chemical weapons in the Middle East was excluded from this document, and there are no satellite photographs of Israeli chemical weapons production facilities there either.

Israel suspected of having chemical weapons

Presumably, the repository that appeared in the CIA documents no longer exists. According to The Foreign Policy, it was located near the town of al-Kilab in the Negev desert. On the satellite images of the area from Google, it is clear that this place is empty, at least from 2004 year. All pictures of the area, which are in the public domain, are quite strongly exposed, it is impossible to look at any details on them. However, according to the magazine, in the early photographs of the desert, it was possible to detect well-protected bunkers before 50.

According to The Foreign Policy, it is likely that over the past years after the publication of the CN's 30 report, Israel could well have destroyed its own stocks of nerve agents and mustard gas, as their safe storage requires substantial funds and forces aimed at maintaining and protecting objects. Rumors have also circulated for a long time that in 1960, Israel, with the help of South Africa, could create its own stockpile of nuclear warheads (and it was reported that they were also manufactured in the Negev desert near Dimona in the nuclear research center). Official Tel Aviv does not confirm or deny the fact that a country has nuclear weapons.

Interest in chemical weapons in the Middle East has greatly increased after the well-known events of 21 August 2013, when, according to American intelligence, due to the use of chemical weapons by Syrian government forces in the suburbs of Damascus, from 300 to 1400 people died. In this case, the Syrian authorities have repeatedly stated that they did not use chemical weapons. The US response to this event was the planning of a military operation against Syrian military and administrative facilities. However, at present the world community is actively discussing the proposal of Russia for the transfer of Syrian chemical weapons under the control of international observers, followed by their destruction. Such a decision can help avoid the interference of other countries in the civil war in Syria, which has been going on there since the 2011 year.


Against this background, Israel made a statement that it does not intend to ratify treaties that would concern international supervision of chemical and other types of weapons of mass destruction - weapons of mass destruction, which Tel Aviv may ask the international community in connection with the situation in neighboring Syria. According to sources in the Israeli Foreign Ministry, over the past few days, high-ranking Russian officials several times drew a parallel between Syrian chemical weapons and Israeli military capabilities (in the West they are practically convinced that Israel possesses not only chemical but also nuclear weapons).

In particular, Vladimir Putin, in an interview with one of the Russian media, said that Syria had armed itself with chemical weapons in response to strengthening Israel’s military potential. In turn, the Russian ambassador in Paris on the air of a local radio station said that the main goal of the Syrian chemical weapons is the balance of forces in the region, a kind of "deterrence effect against Tel Aviv, which possesses nuclear weapons."

It is worth noting that Israel signed the Convention on the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons as far back as 1993, but has not ratified it since. For this reason, Israel is not obliged to allow international inspectors into its territory, nor to refrain from steps that would violate this convention. At the same time, Syria, which today possesses one of the largest arsenals of chemical weapons, did not sign the convention.


The information that Israel possesses chemical weapons, as well as nuclear weapons, is also supported by the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) of Russia. This information is currently contained on the official website of the Ministry. In particular, it says that Israel is a state that unofficially possesses nuclear weapons, as well as their means of delivery. The leadership of the Jewish state does not confirm or deny information about the presence of nuclear weapons in Israel. At the same time, Israel, as a member of the IAEA, in every way evades joining the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Israel has also signed but not ratified the Convention on the Physical Protection of Nuclear Material. In addition, Tel Aviv is not a party to existing international agreements on control over nuclear exports.

The Foreign Intelligence Service also believes that Israel possesses its own stockpiles of chemical weapons. The development of chemical weapons in Israel could begin in the middle of the 60-s of the last century. In 1990, the Israeli Defense Minister said that the country possesses chemical weapons and can use it in the event of an attack, for example, from Iraq.

At present, Israel is able to industrially release toxic substances of all kinds, including skin-blistering, nerve-paralytic, temporarily incapacitating, and so on. To do this, Israel has qualified specialists, highly developed chemical and petrochemical industries and reserves of raw materials. At the same time, according to the information of Russian intelligence officers, large-scale research in the field of the synthesis of new physiologically active substances (including in the interests of the military) does not stop in Israel.

Information sources:
-http: //rus.ruvr.ru/2013_09_11/Doklad-CRU-Izrail-mozhet-obladat-zapasom-himoruzhija-2498/
-http: //www.armtoday.info/default.asp? Lang = _Ru & NewsID = 96229
-http: //svr.gov.ru/material/2-13-6.htm
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  1. kafa
    kafa 13 September 2013 07: 07 New
    +7
    Yes, Israel has both chemical and nuclear weapons and the CIA just woke up with good morning fellow
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 13 September 2013 07: 27 New
      14
      Jews have gas, but it’s kosher, not forbidden by law or god smile
      1. Dober
        Dober 13 September 2013 07: 45 New
        +4
        Quote: Igor39
        there is gas but it is kosher

        Kosher means suitable for kashrut.
        There is an inaccuracy in the article - the Jews have gas (even the "little Reuben" knows about this), but it is not for "sale", but exclusively for their own consumption ... On Yom Purim, instead of booze ...

        It remains to ask the Germans, the "Rheinmetall AG" company, a couple of dozen modern, high-quality Gazen-vagens.
        1. S-200
          S-200 13 September 2013 18: 00 New
          +3
          Quote: Dober
          It remains to ask the Germans, the "Rheinmetall AG" company, a couple of dozen modern, high-quality Gazen-vagenes ...

          again you incite respectable Michel to the next "euro" - payments up to the 7th generation! ... wassat
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 13 September 2013 19: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: Dober
          a couple of dozens of modern, high-quality Gazen-vagenov ...

          Reading for the first time, I somehow did not react to "Gazen-vagen", but now, the brake is released.
          After all, this device has never been produced even in a small series. Maybe there was some kind of homemade work, but even no one was able to see it. She is not in any museum of history. Most likely this is the fruit of a perverted fantasy.
          Quote: COUNT OF Jurgen "WORLD ORDER CRASH"
          Based on an analysis of the special literature on this disinfection agent, he found that in the case of gas massacres described in the stories of witnesses in inadequately sealed and not equipped with ventilation rooms, such as the notorious “gas chambers”, this would immediately lead to a chemical disaster in the whole camp.
          R. Forisson compared imaginary Nazi gas chambers with real gas chambers, which in some states of the USA until recently were used to execute criminals using hydrocyanic acid.
          Execution with hydrocyanic acid is a technically complex process and, if security measures are not followed, death threatens not only the criminal, but also the prison staff and witnesses to the execution.
          Even if the execution of one person with hydrocyanic acid in a prison equipped with special protective equipment is such a difficult process, how could they kill thousands of people with gas in Auschwitz without such precautions without solving the inevitable problems of gas removal? - R. Forisson wondered.

          And these words, as you understand, about gas chambers.
          1. Denis
            Denis 13 September 2013 20: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: Hedgehog
            After all, this device has never been produced even in a small series. Maybe there was some kind of homemade work, but even no one could see her
            If about cars, then they were enough
            from wiki
            The choice of the name Gaswagen for gas chambers has a fairly simple basis. During the war, Germany experienced a serious shortage of motor fuel, and non-responsible transportation was carried out using vehicles powered by generator gas. These cars were called "gas generators" or simply "gas engines." If they worked on a burnt tree (and there were most of them), then they were also called "holzgazvagenami", which literally means "wood gas vans." In English-speaking countries, such cars were usually called producer gas vehicles. However, no less suitable name for them would be “cars using toxic gas” - for the simple reason that the gas they produce was extremely toxic.
            It is known about the production of 2 types of vans - for 30-50 people and 70-100 people (the latter provides information that a special device for unloading corpses was developed for him). The vans were installed on a truck chassis with a carrying capacity of about 3,5 tons (small van) - Opel Blitz, Diamond Reo, Renault, and the 6,5-ton Zaurer, a large van. The chassis and engine were modified and retrofitted in a special way.
            there is a photo
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 13 September 2013 21: 13 New
              0
              Quote: Denis
              If about cars, then they were enough

              You know, there is an interesting fact, According to the Europeans, no blueprints were found for this punctual German car. And the proposed photo clearly shows that there are at least two manufacturers. If this is really the very Gazwagen. Personally, these foty do not convince me.
              1. Denis
                Denis 13 September 2013 21: 34 New
                0
                Quote: Hedgehog
                from punctual Germans, according to Europeans, no drawings were found.
                They are punctual, not bad. And so some kind of company for their manufacture after the war was pretty rotten. They burned everything
                The first one seems to be like a van with a gas generator, after which it is adapted for a gas chamber
                1. Ezhaak
                  Ezhaak 13 September 2013 21: 44 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Denis
                  after fitted

                  This phrase is closer to the truth. Surely the drawings of the bus were, but it was adapted without drawings. That speaks of piece (if it was) production, without drawings and especially flow, series.
                  Documentation was found on missiles, but not on the typewriter. Isn't that weird?
                  Good night. drinks
              2. Zeev
                Zeev 15 September 2013 09: 52 New
                +1
                And the thousands of Slavs killed in these gas cars in the camp of Maly Trostenets, do not convince you either?
          2. Denis
            Denis 13 September 2013 20: 20 New
            +1
            Quote: Hedgehog
            nobody was able to see her
            also one of them
          3. Zeev
            Zeev 15 September 2013 09: 47 New
            +4
            Are you aware that before mass use of "Cyclone B" for the destruction of Jews was tested on Soviet prisoners of war, choosing the concentration and method of use? Weren't your relatives among these prisoners?
    2. mejik
      mejik 13 September 2013 07: 49 New
      +6
      while the boats are there, urgently needed in a democratic, limited way, without entering the war, bombing along Izgael. Do not drive to idle AUGs. Yes, and Lag will pay twice as much as for Syria, again.
      1. Orel
        Orel 13 September 2013 08: 05 New
        +4
        In a declassified CIA document, evidence was found that Israel was allegedly engaged in the manufacture of chemical weapons in early 1983. Perhaps Israel possesses it now.


        Add to your chemical weapons a nuclear arsenal and biological weapons. Israel has all this, they just do not advertise it.
      2. mejik
        mejik 13 September 2013 10: 02 New
        +4
        Quote: mejik
        while the boats are there, urgently needed in a democratic, limited way, without entering the war, bombing along Izgael. Do not drive to idle AUGs. Yes, and Lag will pay twice as much as for Syria, again.

        Lord chosen people! Well, what are you really that you did not like about my proposal? Well, for purely humanitarian reasons, do not think that I am bloodthirsty. I just tried to apply the ideas of your government to you. That's all. And since Sashka did not manage to earn extra money in Syria, why did you refuse an ally to earn so little on Izgael?
        But in general it is not my idea to make money on the bombing of countries, if cho. Sorry for plagiarism.
        1. Aryan
          Aryan 13 September 2013 12: 19 New
          +2
          I remember last year the Zionists muddied by the fall
          the so-called hamnomet-dristabol
          fire truck with hose
          to disperse the expected mass rallies of peaceful Palestinians
          wanted to water the protesters with a mixture of liquid
          in color and smell similar to diarrhea
          is this not a chemical weapon?
          Moget biological?
          request
        2. Professor
          Professor 13 September 2013 13: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: mejik
          Lord chosen people!

          You are allowed to call God's chosen people. After all, he chose the Jews? wink
          1. mejik
            mejik 13 September 2013 21: 32 New
            +1
            Quote: Professor

            You are allowed to call God's chosen people. After all, he chose the Jews? wink

            Excuse me, only the people of the Jewish nation speak of God's chosen people. And people, that ... when they don’t lie directly, they can simply be mistaken ... wink Well, we understand that. lol
            1. Professor
              Professor 14 September 2013 22: 19 New
              +1
              Quote: mejik
              Excuse me, only the people of the Jewish nation speak of God's chosen people.

              This is indicated by the holy bible. Quote?
              1. Mature naturalist
                Mature naturalist 15 September 2013 21: 41 New
                0
                The text of the Bible has changed from edition to edition.
                The word "snowy" in the description of the weather in Jerusalem (Ostrog Bible, 1581) is very curious in it, replaced by the word "rainy" in the synodal version.
                And since it is "rainy", then you can push Jerusalem into the desert.
                Although, last winter, I saw the snow in Jerusalem with my own eyes. They say the first time in the history of observations ...
                1. Professor
                  Professor 15 September 2013 21: 52 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Mature Naturalist
                  The text of the Bible has changed from edition to edition.

                  The text of the Bible (Tanah) has never changed. If the copyist is mistaken at least for one letter during the rewriting of the Tanach, then the whole scroll is rejected. I’m talking about Bible translations. There everyone does what he wants.
                  1. mejik
                    mejik 16 September 2013 13: 28 New
                    0
                    And the Bible, the Bible, her man wrote, and he, I repeat
                    when he doesn’t lie directly, he might just be mistaken ...

                    I can declare that the Jewish people were chosen by God, to show others what qualities a people should not have in order to avoid suffering. God is chosen for punishment, so to speak! Such an election ... tongue
                2. atalef
                  atalef 15 September 2013 22: 17 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Mature Naturalist
                  Although, last winter, I saw the snow in Jerusalem with my own eyes. They say the first time in the history of observations ...

                  Well, snow in Jerusalem quite often, at least once every 4-5 years
      3. Hug
        Hug 5 October 2013 22: 10 New
        0
        Quote: mejik
        while the boats are there, urgently needed in a democratic, limited way, without entering the war, bombing along Izgael. Do not drive to idle AUGs. Yes, and Lag will pay twice as much as for Syria, again.


        Try it, risk your health and the few that remain of the fleet. I think that quite sensible people, unlike you, are sitting in the main headquarters of the Russian Navy.
    3. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 13 September 2013 14: 27 New
      +1
      They have everything and chemical weapons, both nuclear and biological, and conventional ones up to x and more - what's next? As comrade Katz suggests in one film - give up? Do not wait.
    4. komunist
      komunist 13 September 2013 23: 26 New
      0
      for the communists and ische not beat !!!
  2. Denis
    Denis 13 September 2013 07: 20 New
    +2
    In 1990, the Israeli defense minister said that the country has chemical weapons and can use it in case of attack, for example, from Iraq.
    Will they apply?
    It will immediately make extreme
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 13 September 2013 07: 36 New
      +8
      Quote: Denis
      Israel suspected of having chemical weapons

      laughing Americans are simply required to conduct a three-day bombardment (without the introduction of armed forces on the territory of the adversary) wassat
      1. 0255
        0255 13 September 2013 09: 31 New
        +1
        Americans are simply required to conduct a three-day bombardment (without the introduction of armed forces on the territory of the adversary)

        Yes, don’t worry, remember that you recently wrote that Israel had only 10-15 years to live, if not less. So it remains to be seen what the Americans will do with their ally.
        1. atalef
          atalef 15 September 2013 22: 18 New
          +3
          Quote: 0255
          don’t worry, remember that you recently wrote that Israel had to live on the strength of 10-15 years, if not less

          Yes, I don’t worry. it's been 2500 years written laughing
          1. Hug
            Hug 5 October 2013 22: 14 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: 0255
            don’t worry, remember that you recently wrote that Israel had to live on the strength of 10-15 years, if not less

            Yes, I don’t worry. it's been 2500 years written laughing


            Great answer!
      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 13 September 2013 12: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: self-propelled
        americos are simply required to conduct a three-day bombardment

        I can assist by providing the coordinates of the point. If you start to be interested in this place among the Israelis, they start talking fish. So:
        31 ° 48'14.28 "N
        34 ° 52'19.64 "E
        If you take these coordinates as the center, then you need to "wet" everything within a radius of ~ 300 meters
        I can offer a couple more points for closer examination.
  3. Sergeant
    Sergeant 13 September 2013 07: 24 New
    +4
    A parasitic country that actually produces nothing but diverse weapons.
    No bowels, no resources ..
    Everything is obscured and clouded ...
    In other matters, as in the joke:

    Abram, where do you get the money?
    - Sarah gives.
    - And where does Sarah get it?
    - in the nightstand.
    - and who puts it in the nightstand?
    - I lay down.
    - where do you get it?
    - Sarah gives.
    .... and in a circle.
    1. Professor
      Professor 13 September 2013 09: 34 New
      +8
      Quote: Sergeant
      A parasitic country that actually produces nothing but diverse weapons.

      Literacy means not only the ability to put letters into words, but words into sentences, but to understand what they read. Start at least with a wiki: Israeli economy

      Quote: Sergeant
      No bowels, no resources ..

      The main resource of Israel is the gray matter that you personally do not have, although recently hydrocarbons have also been found on the shelf.

      Quote: Sergeant
      Everything is obscured and clouded ...

      Only that which relates to the military sphere is classified and that is far from everything, and some commentators here are clouded in consciousness. fool
      1. uhu189
        uhu189 13 September 2013 17: 30 New
        +5
        Dear Professor, I would like to hear your opinion on the issue raised - if the state of Israel rejects the right of neighboring countries to possess nuclear technology (which has been repeatedly confirmed by Israeli air strikes on Iraq and Syria), then how correctly is Israel possessing such weapons? From the point of view of international law, how is Israel different from Syria or Iran? Or, according to various estimates, warheads ranging from 200 to 500 are required exclusively for defense, as well as medium-range missiles? Why are you better than Iran? Or is the situation like in a well-known story - all animals are equal, but are animals even more equal? And why, then, crying to the whole world about the inadmissibility of Iran possessing nuclear technology, your state considers it possible to simply ignore all the rules and treaties associated with it in relation to itself? Do you personally think this is right? Or do you, as a true patriot, declare that my country is not right, but this is my country?
        1. Professor
          Professor 13 September 2013 19: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: uhu189
          if the state of Israel rejects the right of neighboring countries to possess nuclear technology

          It’s not true, Iran built the Bushehr nuclear power plant and, as you see, Israel did not bomb it. It is only about nuclear weapons.

          Quote: uhu189
          From the point of view of international law, how is Israel different from Syria or Iran?

          so that it does not threaten to destroy anyone. In general, then let’s distribute nuclear weapons and their delivery vehicles to all countries. Georgia, Afghanistan, Congo, etc. Equity in action.

          Quote: uhu189
          And why, then, screaming to the whole world about the inadmissibility of Iran possessing nuclear technology, your state considers it possible to simply ignore all the rules and treaties associated with it in relation to itself?

          What treaties does Israel violate? List pliz.
          1. uhu189
            uhu189 13 September 2013 21: 32 New
            0
            Quote: Professor
            It’s not true, Iran built the Bushehr nuclear power plant and, as you see, Israel did not bomb it. It is only about nuclear weapons.


            Do you seriously say that? But didn’t Mr. Natanyahu threaten to launch a preemptive strike on enrichment centrifuges? Just because, in his opinion, uranium is being enriched there to a weapon level. But then, sorry, did Israel send weapons-grade uranium to Israel? Or does it not enrich you? I repeat the question - why are you better than Iran? And why was Osirak and the reactor in Syria bombed? Was he also for nuclear weapons? In my opinion, you are now showing a typical example of double standards on the principle that they are bad and they can’t, but we are good and they can ... And again, do not express your opinion, unfortunately

            Quote: Professor
            so that it does not threaten to destroy anyone. In general, then let’s distribute nuclear weapons and their delivery vehicles to all countries.


            Dear Professor, with all due respect to you and your arguments, which often sound very sensible, I can’t agree with you now, because recently Israel has been pursuing the most aggressive policies in the region, it is the Israeli Air Force that makes regular attacks on Syria, Sudan, Lebanon . It is Israel that provokes the United States to launch a preemptive strike on Iran. Of course, all this is justified allegedly by the fight against Hezbollah, but nevertheless, the same Iran does not bomb its neighbors and does not fire at them with missiles, and objectively, unlike Israel, it behaves much more peacefully. Although I think you will now begin to talk about Hamas and Hezbollah, which Iran supports. But honestly, sometimes it seems to me that the leadership of Israel is very beneficial for Hezbollah, and I’m sure that if they wanted to in Israel, then with all your might, they would have solved this problem once and for all ...

            Quote: Professor
            What treaties does Israel violate? List pliz.
            Yes, you’re right, I didn’t formulate the idea correctly - you don’t violate them, you simply ignore them (nuclear non-proliferation treaty) And I don’t understand the situation, for example, around North Korea, which is carried in the tail and mane for missiles and nuclear weapons , and at the same time, Israel, which has significantly larger arsenals and technological power, is simply not visible. Again double standards.

            But in general, it would be interesting for me to hear your opinion, and not the answers to specific phrases taken out of the question.
            1. Professor
              Professor 14 September 2013 21: 44 New
              +2
              Quote: uhu189
              But didn’t Mr. Natanyahu threaten to launch a preemptive strike on enrichment centrifuges?

              Excuse me, for what purpose do uranium enrich in centrifuges and why doesn’t anyone bombard Bushehr?

              Quote: uhu189
              But then, sorry, did Israel send weapons-grade uranium to Israel? Or does it not enrich you?

              And did someone see that Uranus? wink

              Quote: uhu189
              lately, Israel has the most aggressive policy in the region, it is the Israeli air force that makes regular attacks on Syria, Sudan, Lebanon

              Is there evidence or is it an OBS?

              So, why did the Soviet Union create nuclear weapons in 15 republics, and only Russia got it? Not fair however. Share it with Georgia, Lithuania and others. And also urgently the Taliban to give it to other cannibals. Since without double standards, then for everyone.

              Quote: uhu189
              But honestly, sometimes it seems to me

              When it seems, then get baptized, and writing nonsense that Hezbollah is beneficial to Israel is not necessary. Of course, why does Israel need Middle East Switzerland as a neighbor when you can have Hezbollah near at hand. It is economically, politically and generally beneficial. fool

              Quote: uhu189
              you don’t violate them, you simply ignore them

              When Russia abandons its nuclear weapons then we'll talk.

              Quote: uhu189
              But in general, it would be interesting for me to hear your opinion

              Here for some reason I doubted it.
              1. uhu189
                uhu189 15 September 2013 00: 29 New
                +1
                They doubted in vain, but this is your right ... Sometimes the lack of answers speaks more than the answers themselves. In any case, thanks for the discussion, it was interesting to read hi
          2. Denis
            Denis 13 September 2013 21: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: Professor
            let's distribute nuclear weapons and their delivery vehicles to all countries. Georgia, Afghanistan, Congo, etc.
            It is not enough to have a bomb, it must be stored and able to. But how ... it will!
            Is South Africa voluntarily abandoned nuclear weapons of peace? Only due to difficulties in keeping, there are no specialists left
            1. Professor
              Professor 14 September 2013 21: 45 New
              +2
              Quote: Denis
              Is South Africa voluntarily abandoned nuclear weapons of peace? Only due to difficulties in keeping, there are no specialists left

              Not for this reason. Mandela did not want to leave such a gift.
          3. bif
            bif 14 September 2013 00: 13 New
            0
            In general, then let’s distribute nuclear weapons and their delivery vehicles to all countries I fully support you and I have long believed that the first Poplars should be delivered to Iran before the onset of winter, and Lebanon should be so ... several Iskanders on New Year's Day ... a worthy gift.
            1. Zeev
              Zeev 15 September 2013 09: 56 New
              +1
              Just do not be surprised if, after another dispute over the Caspian shoal, where sturgeons spawn, one of these "Topols" returns from Iran to their homeland. Or not one.
              1. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 15 September 2013 11: 12 New
                0
                Quote: Zeev
                from the Caspian shallows where sturgeons spawn

                Do you have the opportunity to show this sandbank? As far as I know, fish spawning in the Caspian live rivers pool. Sturgeon is no exception. A trifle, like a goby or sprat does not count.
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 13 September 2013 19: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: cool
          What treaties does Israel violate?

          And yet, yes, he, the cool man, is right, Israel does not violate what he signed and does not sign what was supposed to be violated from ancient times. And if he signs, then he will not ratify it at all. What gives the right to non-performance of the contract.
          He doesn’t read me. I'm on his blacklist. wassat
          1. The Indian Joe
            The Indian Joe 13 September 2013 21: 08 New
            +1
            Hedgehog (1) RU Today, 19:23 ↑ New
            Quote: cool
            What treaties does Israel violate?
            And yet, yes, he, the cool man, is right, Israel does not violate what he signed and does not sign what was supposed to be violated from ancient times. And if he signs, then he will not ratify it at all. What gives the right to non-performance of the contract.
            He doesn’t read me. I'm on his blacklist. wassat
            - Well, she loves Israel is not obliged to fulfill unratified treaties. Like Syria unsigned.
      2. alekss30
        alekss30 14 September 2013 17: 57 New
        -1
        can live to see such bright days when they’ll even smash Israel. For illegal possession of chemical and nuclear weapons
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      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 13 September 2013 12: 59 New
        -4
        Quote: DezzeD
        ... black caviar is exported ...

        Well, yes, of course, Israel exports radishes, however, grown in Cyprus or even in Argentina. And much more, under the guise of their own manufacture. But essentially the same Ford, only in Russia assembled.
        1. Forest
          Forest 13 September 2013 13: 43 New
          +5
          No, they have hectares of greenhouses: "Plato is my friend, but the truth is a path."
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 13 September 2013 14: 35 New
            -1
            Quote: Forest
            "Plato is my friend, but the truth is the track"

            Bon voyage to Pyaterochka or a similar store, buy a package of radishes there, it won't hit your pocket hard, and carefully read the sticker on the package. They are not able to produce enough to feed Russia with their goods. By the way, carrots coming from there, the producer is not important, makes up no more than 7% of Russia's needs.
            1. Forest
              Forest 13 September 2013 16: 10 New
              0
              We do not have "Pyatyorochek").
              The most interesting thing is that they grow, but do not use it themselves, but "drive" to Russia. After I learned this, I look at the country of origin.
              1. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 13 September 2013 16: 29 New
                +1
                Quote: Forest
                looking country producer

                And I just have to take my word for it. Last year, I repeatedly posted photos of these stickers on the network with an emphasized place of origin of the product. And more recently, I cleaned the computer from unnecessary and seemingly unnecessary photos. They take up a lot of space. And among them removed stickers. If you wish, wait until winter, when we begin to buy an imported product, remind me and I will definitely show you such stickers. They are glued in accordance with Russian standards, importers of products. And we eat greens in large quantities.
              2. ruslan207
                ruslan207 13 September 2013 20: 56 New
                +1
                And which one do we use?
                Someone does not ask you to use, Onishchenko is always on guard!
            2. patrianostra
              patrianostra 13 September 2013 17: 12 New
              +4
              However, in this entrant male state, 3-4 harvests of vegetables are harvested, and sacromental chicken and milk are simply megatons. The truth is that beef from Argentina is imported by consumption, which is not surprising that the national sport in Israel is EAT. the cycle is swept. In the photo early. AOI General Staff.
              1. ruslan207
                ruslan207 13 September 2013 21: 05 New
                +2
                patrianostra-So you do not like to eat, as I understand it, or do you judge by yourself?
                Skewer there a shot glass with a beam miss one another
            3. Zeev
              Zeev 15 September 2013 10: 05 New
              +1
              Here is the sticker.
              1. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 15 September 2013 11: 21 New
                0
                Yes, it is the most, I propose to carefully deal with the "Manufacturer" line. The picture is hard to read. However, it is very similar to Spanish. Give the exact name and everything will become clear. Very much like Argentina. Like I saw something like that.
                I am sure that he is not in Israel. And it is packed in Israel. I always talked about this! hi
                1. Rumata
                  Rumata 15 September 2013 19: 57 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Hedgehog
                  Yes, it is the most, I propose to carefully deal with the "Manufacturer" line. The picture is hard to read. However, it is very similar to Spanish. Give the exact name and everything will become clear. Very much like Argentina. Like I saw something like that.
                  I am sure that he is not in Israel. And it is packed in Israel. I always talked about this!

                  That is not too lazy and checked.
                  Vicente carbajo
                  The company began its existence in 1991 as a packer and exporter of pears and apples. It has a place and equipment for packaging and packing 5 kg of pears and apples, refrigeration units, with a capacity of 000 cases. In 000, the company engaged in agricultural activities, growing pears of various varieties. The company annually exports approximately 150 packages of fruit to Europe and Brazil.
                  Activities: Equipment, packaging for the fruit and vegetable market, Equipment, packaging suppliers, Export of fruits, vegetables, berries and mushrooms, Meat exporters


                  Now, the country of origin is where the radish is grown, or for example a cow, if we are talking about meat.
                  The manufacturer is those who sell the finished product, that is, packs, transports. Take a look at their website, they grow mainly apples, pears, as well as seafood.
                  It is this company that practically does not grow vegetables, in Israel they buy products, for example, in kibbutzim, which are not profitable to transport, packs and sells mainly to Russia and the countries of the former CIS.

                  By the way, this is normal practice. Most of the cherry tomatoes, for example, come from Israel, where they were bred by the way, but on the packaging in the column "producer" you can find anything, from Chile to Belarus ...
                  1. Ezhaak
                    Ezhaak 15 September 2013 20: 54 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Rumata
                    The company began its existence

                    Why engage in verbiage, just write that this company is from Argentina.
                    Mailing address: Rio Negro, Chacra 409 Lote 5T0. Ing. Huergo.

                    And the Israelis just packed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    But did not grow !!!!!!!!!!!!
                    Why carry so much nonsense, the last paragraph was enough.
                    1. Rumata
                      Rumata 15 September 2013 21: 02 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Hedgehog
                      And the Israelis just packed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      And not grown !!!!!!!!!!!!
                      Why carry so much nonsense, the last paragraph was enough.

                      Yes, yes, the country of origin is written in black and white, and the country is PRODUCER. Take a package of coffee and read at your leisure what is written there, there is a difference between the one who produces a product called Nescafe, it may even be Mongolia, and the one where coffee is grown. If such obvious things are not understood, then the conversation does not make sense. Redmond, WA, United States of America is written on a Microsoft website; discs are stamped in China, the analogy with the address is clear, or how in the first class, do you have to explain it on your fingers?
                      Z.Y
                      I am already silent about the fact that this company does not grow radishes at all ... Magic !!!
                      1. Ezhaak
                        Ezhaak 15 September 2013 22: 54 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Rumata
                        I'm already silent about the fact that ....

                        It would be better if you were generally silent. I suspected that you speak such a rich language as Russian, but it turns out that you have only a superficial concept of it. Unusual for an Israeli !!!
                        The fact is that many Russian craftsmen use primitive English, where a lot of concepts are hidden behind one word. This and the same "produced", "adapter" and much more. In Russian, there is "grown", "packaged and packed", which is equated by fools with "produced". Which probably doesn't exist in Hebrew either.
                        It remains only to say that if not for Israel, the whole world would have died of hunger. Our breadwinners and breadwinners. And how much grain you produce, do not count. Especially those Israelis who sit on the forums. I'm just sorry for you, with your megalomania.
                      2. Rumata
                        Rumata 15 September 2013 23: 26 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Hedgehog
                        The fact is that many Russian craftsmen use primitive English, where a lot of concepts are hidden behind one word. This and the same "produced", "adapter" and much more. In Russian, there is "grown", "packaged and packed", which is equated by fools with "produced". Which probably doesn't exist in Hebrew either.

                        Double three, for slowpock. Vicente Carbajo DOESN'T GROW HERDIES. In Israel, they pack radishes, which, according to your logic, the company directly takes out from Astral. He opened all the chakras and opa !, 1000 tons of radish, you can teleport it to Israel, where the Jews will pack it, having appropriated all the glory. And what nonsense about the Russian language, and Russian craftsmen, so you can carry any nonsense, and when you are poked into it, tell tales. In general, Argentines are handsome, in March they harvest, they transport it across the floor of the planet to pack in Israel. CONSPIRATION, so that no one would guess
                      3. Ezhaak
                        Ezhaak 16 September 2013 09: 55 New
                        0
                        Quote: Rumata
                        Double three, for slowpock. Vicente Carbajo DOESN'T GROW HERDIES.

                        For slowpocs, you say? So wise guy, the company simply does not mention small-scale production, and that says EVERYTHING. But about
                        High tech
                        High tech. (Eng. Hi-tec; from high technology - perfect technology) A style of architectural design practice.
                        or about his absence, who would doubt it? It's nothing and not possessing it, just a disgrace. Here is your hi-tech http://the-day-x.ru/v-rossiyu-postavlyayut-izrailskie-ovoshhi-vzrashhennye-na-st

                        ochnyx-vodax.html
                        But boast of it, the level of a macaque sitting on a palm tree.
                        Quote: Rumata
                        CONSPIRATION, so that no one would guess

                        Well, just like Aunt Sarah at Privoz. No higher. And stupid.
                      4. Rumata
                        Rumata 16 September 2013 21: 59 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Hedgehog
                        For slowpocs, you say? So wise guy, the company simply does not mention small-scale production, and that says EVERYTHING. But about

                        Yes, pears are indicated, and thousands of tons of radishes, potatoes and carrots, this is small-scale production, why mention it. And to carry this very radish across the floor of the planet just to be packed in Israel is normal ... in some alternative reality, judging throughout.
                        Quote: Hedgehog
                        But boast of it, the level of a macaque sitting on a palm tree.

                        The link will not open, but if Hi-Tech in Israel is the level of a monkey, then Russia has not advanced further than the snails. Here I will not even give examples when the opponent is not completely literate in the matter is a waste of time. If a company that does not grow radishes, in general, exports it to you in thousands of tons, packed in Israel, then there’s no point in raising the topic of stem cells, nanotechnology and biomotors or angiogenic drugs, for example ... An argument with a stupid troll, a waste of time
      2. Rumata
        Rumata 15 September 2013 20: 19 New
        0
        Quote: Hedgehog
        Bon voyage to Pyaterochka or a similar store, buy a package of radishes there, it won't hit your pocket hard, and carefully read the sticker on the package.

        Stickers still need to be read correctly. Wiki is not an argument, but it says for example that Israel provides itself with food at 95%, while most of it is exported. Each person working in this sector is able to feed 95 compatriots. For comparison: in the USA this indicator is 1:79, in Russia - 1: 14,7, in China - 1: 3,6.

        If you do not read the wiki, how do you like that fact. Israel is one of the largest exporters of tulips and roses, and in general, in terms of flower export, it came out on the fourth place in the world this year.
        Only in Europe and only by Valentine's Day, Israel exported 60 million flowers ...
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 15 September 2013 20: 49 New
          0
          Quote: Rumata
          Stickers still need to be read correctly

          What would we do without you? After all, only you are one of those who can!
          Quote: Rumata
          Wiki is not an argument, but it says for example

          Wiki must also be read correctly! But that’s what you don’t know. Narrow specialization on stickers interferes.
          Quote: Rumata
          in terms of flower export, came out in fourth place in the world this year.

          Just do not tell me that the Israelis eat the same flowers. I do not believe!
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 15 September 2013 21: 13 New
            +2
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Just do not tell me that the Israelis eat the same flowers. I do not believe!

            Well this is not serious. I gave an example of exported products manufactured in Israel. In addition to radishes and carrots, there is much more, or according to your logic, flowers, chocolate, wine or for example polyethylene in Israel are produced and sold for export, but there is no radish because you didn’t like it for some reason?
            1. Professor
              Professor 15 September 2013 21: 17 New
              +2
              Quote: Rumata
              In addition to radishes and carrots, there is much more, or according to your logic, flowers, chocolate, wine or for example polyethylene in Israel are produced and sold for export, but there is no radish because you didn’t like it for some reason?

              How could you forget the grain exported by Israel?
            2. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 15 September 2013 22: 59 New
              0
              Quote: Rumata
              Well that's not serious

              Yes it is. I'm trying to mock a steep Rumata.
              But if we talk about radish specifically, I would prefer a product from the Caucasus. I don’t like what Rumata advertises, but for want of a better one I have to take the worst. Similarly with wine.
              1. Rumata
                Rumata 15 September 2013 23: 34 New
                +2
                Quote: Hedgehog
                Yes it is. I'm trying to mock cool Rumata

                Mock? =)) I have long been looking at such "experts" purely philosophically. One here recently proved to me that there is no Hi-Tech in Israel, I also thought that he was mocking me, and I am so stupid talking nonsense, working in this very Hi-Tech.
                How can I now survive the stream of consciousness of another fat troll, I won’t fall asleep.
  • il grand casino
    il grand casino 13 September 2013 10: 04 New
    +6
    Quote: Sergeant
    A parasitic country that actually produces nothing but diverse weapons.
    No bowels, no resources ..
    Everything is obscured and clouded ...


    When I read such a comment as an economist, my hair stood on end even under my armpits ... how can you be so naive ... Lord. Do you really think that only the bowels and resources make the economy? But what about the strongest economy of the Netherlands? Probably kept on water ... Ignorance ...

    P.S. RELATED: And someone doubted that Israel has a chemical or nuclear weapon?)))
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 13 September 2013 10: 20 New
      +3
      Oh, why, why, how unfortunate smilebut you won’t refuse the brains of the Jews.
      1. mejik
        mejik 13 September 2013 10: 37 New
        +3
        Quote: Vladimirets
        and you won’t refuse the brains of Jews.


        I would definitely refuse one for a famous statement.

        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 13 September 2013 12: 52 New
          0
          Quote: mejik
          I would definitely refuse one for a famous statement

          But he voiced what the swamps scream loudly about. Only. Or is it that the swamps started yelling at his idea?
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 13 September 2013 14: 41 New
            0
            Quote: Hedgehog
            But he voiced what the swamps scream loudly about. Only. Or is it that the swamps started yelling at his idea?


            What's the difference? It is not the lack of "brains" in him or them that is to blame, but a perverted perception of the world, perverted psychology, lack of principles, norms of morality and ethics. From Zhvanetsky, I did not expect such statements, I thought he was wiser, although maybe this is just senile maraz. But the audience was uncomfortable from some moments of his performance, at least it seemed to me so.
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 13 September 2013 15: 05 New
              0
              Quote: Ruslan_F38
              Who cares?

              The difference is huge. Whether to consider him a provocateur or to assume that he is stupid like a traffic jam, following the lead and has no opinion of his own. Although the first option frankly suggests itself.
            2. olviko
              olviko 15 September 2013 07: 36 New
              +1
              This is not insanity, it is just that in this Jew a Jew finally erupted. It can be seen for a long time that he carried this in himself, because in the Union it was impossible to say this, it was possible to logging in the forest. And now a freethinker, freedom of speech and conscience, that's all r ... and pops up.
        2. pensioner
          pensioner 13 September 2013 15: 07 New
          +2
          It would be a bastard to straighten him ... But everyone in the studio giggled and clapped their hands! am
      2. wax
        wax 13 September 2013 10: 44 New
        +3
        in the brains of the Jews you will not refuse

        in our time, only those brains are visible where there is a powerful recharge from financial flows.
  • kafa
    kafa 13 September 2013 13: 33 New
    +3
    I am Russian ! And I'll tell you a little joke laughing
    it doesn’t matter which country YOU are from, but there are Jews and not the very last people there (even in Ethiopia). THERE ARE NO BAD PEOPLES — there are simply people who are bad. there are among the Russian zhida. and you try to grow a garden city in the desert and do not offend good neighbors (Arabs)
    1. mejik
      mejik 13 September 2013 21: 45 New
      0
      NO BAD PEOPLES - there are just people

      Here, many will agree with me that no one is against the good people of the Jewish nation who have grown a garden city and have good neighborly relations with Arabs, Turks, Russians, Ethiopians. But when good people choose bad people for themselves in a government that cannot or does not want to live peacefully with the above nations, they must be aware that the attitude to the actions of their government will also be projected onto them. But they, the people of the Jewish nation, are offended that they do not understand, do not accept, and blame them for all sins. There is no smoke without fire.
      Peace to all good, and let the bad perish.
  • Zeev
    Zeev 15 September 2013 09: 54 New
    +1
    Do you have ICQ in your computer? Erase immediately - this program was invented in Israel.
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 13 September 2013 07: 28 New
    +2
    It would be good to squeeze the snickering sixes of amers, and even now, against the background of hysteria about chemical attacks in Syria. hi
    1. wax
      wax 13 September 2013 10: 46 New
      +1
      snickering sixes amers

      who at sixes walks another question
    2. bif
      bif 14 September 2013 00: 52 New
      0
      The USSR has always found a way, so Russia will find it now.
      In the early morning of October 8, at an emergency cabinet meeting, she announced her final verdict: “No surrender. We will use nuclear weapons and destroy Cairo and Damascus! ”

      Indeed, Israel had eighteen atomic bombs at its disposal. The ministers realized that the "iron lady" had lost her sense of reality and no one could convince her. There was a deathly silence in the hall. Golda Meir interpreted the silence of her comrades in her own way. Without hesitating a second, she gave the order to Moshe Dayan to immediately bring the entire nuclear arsenal on alert ... "http://oko-planet.su/politik/politikarm/193941-odin-mig-nad-tel-avivom-ili-plan-
      po-prinuzhdeniyu-izrailya.html
  • FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 13 September 2013 07: 35 New
    +3
    The arrogance and arrogance of the Jews is surprising. I wonder what they will do when the amers can not cover them?
    1. mejik
      mejik 13 September 2013 07: 53 New
      +7
      Quote: FC Skiff
      The arrogance and arrogance of the Jews is surprising. I wonder what they will do when the amers can not cover them?

      It was already in biblical times, wandering around the world.
  • Atenon
    Atenon 13 September 2013 07: 54 New
    +1
    So you have to bomb Israel, and then suddenly civilians poison.
  • basil200
    basil200 13 September 2013 08: 57 New
    +3
    Something in recent days there are no user comments from Israel.
    1. 0255
      0255 13 September 2013 09: 34 New
      0
      Something in recent days there are no user comments from Israel.

      probably they were banned))) and you really need their comments?
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  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 13 September 2013 08: 57 New
    +3
    And what is there only in Israel ... The country is not visible on the map, but a complete set of all types of weapons of mass destruction (there is also bacteriological) And they get away with it (I hope so far) ..
    1. Professor
      Professor 13 September 2013 09: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      And what is there only in Israel ... The country is not visible on the map, but a complete set of all types of weapons of mass destruction (there is also bacteriological) And they get away with it (I hope so far) ..

      There is a bacteriological agent KGB agent revealed it 20 years ago. Get away with it? Does Russia get away with it too? wink

      High-ranking Soviet spy released in Israel

      Klingberg, 83, is serving a 20-year sentence for issuing Israeli secrets to the Soviet Union. Since 1998, he has been under house arrest. The preventive measure was changed in connection with the state of health of the prisoner - by 1998 he suffered several strokes.

      Klindberg emigrated to Israel in 1948. At the time of his arrest in 1983, he worked as deputy director of the Secret Biological Institute in Nes Tsiona south of Tel Aviv.


      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 11: 47 New
        +7
        Good uncle, done the right thing good
        1. Professor
          Professor 13 September 2013 13: 06 New
          +4
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          Good uncle, done the right thing

          Traitor, he is a traitor in Africa. However, in another country he would have been put up against such a wall. That's interesting how Shabak calculated it. Do you know? wink
          1. kafa
            kafa 13 September 2013 13: 40 New
            +2
            yes I read repeat he slipped out of the ideological and through the sieve of the Shabak hi
          2. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 14: 09 New
            +2
            This is for you he is a traitor, but for us, a scout and patriot of his country laughing By the way, share how he got into the dungeons of your Security Council?
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 13 September 2013 15: 15 New
              +3
              Comrade Stalin! soldier Do you see how the Professor skillfully switched the topic from weapons of mass destruction to insignificant details about the capture of a KGB agent? Although, in general, it seems that I should repent about the presence of weapons of mass destruction in Israel. The article is actually about chemical weapons. The Professor should be tortured about him ... Let him enlighten: "Why does Israel have the right to him?"
              1. Professor
                Professor 13 September 2013 16: 32 New
                +1
                Quote: retired
                Although, in general, it seems like I should repent about the presence of WMD in Israel.

                I will repent right after you.

                Vaanunu passed information about nuclear weapons, Klingberg about bacteriological. No one has yet passed on the chemical. Just speculation and gossip.

                Let him enlighten: "Why is Israel entitled to it?"

                Enlighten us, why did the USSR use chemical warfare agents against its citizens?
                1. uhu189
                  uhu189 13 September 2013 21: 49 New
                  0
                  Dear Professor, what are you talking about, if not secret? About Tukhachevsky and the suppression of the uprising of peasants near Tambov - as you know the fate of Tukhachevsky - he got what he deserved ... Or do you have other facts of application? Do not introduce?
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 14 September 2013 22: 21 New
                    +2
                    Quote: uhu189
                    About Tukhachevsky and the suppression of the uprising of the peasants near Tambov - as you know the fate of Tukhachevsky - he got what he deserved ...

                    Applied not Tukhachevsky, but the USSR.
            2. Professor
              Professor 13 September 2013 16: 29 New
              +1
              Quote: tilovaykrisa
              He is a traitor for you, but for us, a scout and patriot of his country. By the way, share how he got into the dungeons of your Security Council?

              What kind of scout is he? He doesn't even pull on a spy. Nobody even sent him to Israel. Typical traitor.
              The KGB helped to catch him. He did not get in touch for a long time and to check what happened to him they sent another agent whom Shabak had already split. He immediately split and for a long time served as a double agent, already in prison and leading the KGB by the nose ...
              1. atalef
                atalef 15 September 2013 01: 03 New
                +1
                In general, he (the shore wedge) was recruited quite intresno. Already working at the institute he needed documents about higher education .without. He couldn’t move up the career ladder, he turned to the USSR Embassy (then there were. Deep. Relations), and then it’s recruited technology. retire him. As the Colonel IDF (or Lt. Colonel) continue to pay
              2. olviko
                olviko 15 September 2013 07: 46 New
                0
                Only Jonathan Pollard da Larry Franklin and the rest are traitors in our scouts.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 15 September 2013 07: 54 New
                  +2
                  Quote: olviko
                  Only Jonathan Pollard walks in scouts.

                  Give at least one official Israeli source where Pollard would be called a scout.
  • Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 13 September 2013 09: 37 New
    +6
    now there is a real, untwisted chance for the whole world to poke a claim into the impudent, lying Israeli mug - why should Syria be controlled by chemical weapons, and Israel not?
    and rinse this postulate around the world and as loud as possible: Israel has a nuclear bomb and a chem. there are weapons and no one can say a word to them. to the answer of the Jews for rashness, arrogance and fascism in the region !!!
  • klip07
    klip07 13 September 2013 09: 40 New
    +1
    Maybe they have chemical weapons .... maybe they have nuclear weapons ... a lot of "maybe" ... maybe worth reading "Blow of the Russian gods - Istarkhov"???
  • Hedgehog
    Hedgehog 13 September 2013 10: 10 New
    0
    I thought the Jews had a gas phobia.
  • Tommygun
    Tommygun 13 September 2013 10: 27 New
    0
    Quote: DezzeD
    dear sergeant!

    you are right, of course, Israel is populated by parasites that export:

    weapons (and love rush, bpl.)
    Technology
    Food
    prg. security
    honey. technology, drugs

    Well, you know, stupid stupid.


    but I almost forgot. black caviar exported to your fucking table
    http://www.vip-ikra.ru/index.php?productID=675


    I don’t understand how the land wears them.


    and you comrade exporting weapons, oil, gas, forest. everything. if you remove the weapon
    it’s just like an African country,
    Gabon.

    here is your level.


    And you export black caviar, because she is not kosher.
    On you, God, that we are worthless !!!
  • Sirs
    Sirs 13 September 2013 10: 28 New
    +6
    Israel is a country actively proving that it is, but the more actively it proves it, the more it does not want to be there. IMHO
    1. atalef
      atalef 13 September 2013 15: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Sirs
      Israel is a country actively proving that it is, but the more actively it proves it, the more it does not want to be there. IMHO

      Envy is one of the worst sins. laughing
  • wax
    wax 13 September 2013 10: 54 New
    +4
    The non-ratification of Covenant unequivocally confirms the reluctance to let inspectors enter Israel. It follows that in Israel there is where to look at stockpiles and chemical weapons and centers for its development and improvement. In general, if by analogy with the human body, then only cancer cells, which, in the end, kill the body, multiply uncontrollably. Israel in relation to WMD is perhaps the only state that is allowed to do whatever it wants, especially after the collapse of the USSR.
    1. atalef
      atalef 13 September 2013 16: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Wax
      Neratification of Covenant unequivocally confirms unwillingness to send inspectors to Israel
      Do you want a list of conventions to which Russia has not joined?
      By the way, Assad, well, he himself refused the chem. weapons (by the way, only words so far) Not framed in front of the states, so far I would have kept the largest arsenal in the world.


      Quote: Wax
      Israel in relation to WMD is perhaps the only state that is allowed to do whatever it wants, especially after the collapse of the USSR.

      All thanks to the tireless care of the USSR and the desire of 400 million Arabs to destroy us.
      Do not help the Arabs of the USSR, there would be no wars with Israel (as well as their shameful defeats) We would not need weapons.
      By the way, unlike Assad, Israel is only suspected, we have a strong chemistry. The simplest weapon to synthesize if desired is not a problem.
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 17: 12 New
        +5
        the desire of 400 million Arabs to destroy us

        Why do they have such a desire? Do not tell me? It’s like you live quietly, even get fenced off so that neighbors don’t interfere.
        1. atalef
          atalef 13 September 2013 19: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          Why do they have such a desire? Do not tell me? You seem to live quietly, there you’re even fencing off with a wall so that neighbors don’t interfere

          Without touching on the religious essence of the conflict, Explain to me why ---, let's say Germany attacked Russia 2 times in 40 years and especially the second time they distinguished themselves at the request of extermination and the Slavs did the same.
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 19: 32 New
            +1
            Well, since "YOU" then I explain, for the first time due to the fact that our Emperor was a fool and fell for the promises of the Entente, entered into an absolutely unnecessary war for us and fought against their own former ally, and the dividends were divided as planned by others.

            For the second time, humiliated Germany was specially prepared by the same Britons + United States, 0 pumped up with money, pushed to war, even surrendered all his allies to suit interests, the general in the Wehrmacht did not want a war with the USSR, at least its adequate majority. Only this time, the Rockefel and the Rothschilds and the barracks did NOT break off in power was a much wiser rule than Nikosha.

            Therefore, comparing these examples is somewhat incorrect.

            But your situation is completely different .... and religion here is not in the first place far.
            1. atalef
              atalef 14 September 2013 11: 05 New
              +6
              Quote: tilovaykrisa
              For the second time, humiliated Germany was specially prepared by the same shaves + USA, 0 pumped it with money, pushed to war

              I don’t know how things are behind you and what the story is, but it seemed to me that England had declared war on Germany (because of Poland) as early as 1941. This is what happens. England, fighting Germany, pumped it with money to push the war with Russia. Since you certainly * Mine Kampf * read. What is written there about the expansion of the Reich to the east and about the Slavs in particular?
              But he wrote it in 1925.
              Well, yes, everything has been turned upside down on you (with regards to history) and, in general, causal relations have been completely disrupted.
          2. revnagan
            revnagan 13 September 2013 21: 20 New
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            Explain to me why ---, let's say Germany attacked Russia 2 times in 40 years and especially the second time they distinguished themselves at the request of extermination and the Slavs did the same.

            And, yes, yes, yes, I recall, Russia pinned uninvited on the territory where ethnic Germans lived for centuries and captured them, spreading them more and more with truths and falsehoods. That's the Germans. Apparently there was nothing left to do ...
  • mizantrop22
    mizantrop22 13 September 2013 11: 26 New
    +7
    It just touches how much passion, how much desire to deal with Israel. If earlier it was still possible to say that instability in the BV results from the Arab-Israeli conflict. Now, after the events in Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, the constantly smoldering Lebanon, it is absolutely clear why all the problems in this region are. Arabs are not ready to exist peacefully, not only with Israel, but with themselves! Shiites hate Sunnis, Muslims, Christians, etc. What remains to Israel? Arm yourself to the teeth.
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 17: 22 New
      +1
      Have you ever wondered why this is exactly what happens? The principle of divide and conquer works and now, for whom it’s up to someone, and Israel is definitely not at hand strong strong people with a stable economy and a powerful army, they may want revenge.
      1. atalef
        atalef 13 September 2013 19: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        for whom to whom, and Israel certainly is not in the hands of strong neighbors with a stable economy and a powerful army, they may also want revenge

        I am not against Yogdania and Egypt with an excellent economy (let them develop). And why do we want this? After the 5 wars? Tell me who started it. Or maybe you want to say Georgia or the Baltic states a strong economy and army? And this is to be noted despite the fact that none of these countries specifically attacked Russia.
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 19: 53 New
          +1
          You drove into a communal apartment, and according to the people living there, it was not legal and it doesn’t matter that you said that you once lived there, after entering you began to make repairs there that interfered with the rest and immediately began to beat your teeth when you asked to stop it to their neighbors, naturally, they tried to get together and evict the impudent tenant, but you have a friend, a policeman, with the help of whom you beat your neighbors again and this happens every time, you don’t talk and try to come to an agreement, you hit and beat him right away, which is why you and your neighbors do not like.

          Personally, this is how I see the reason for the love of Arabs for you, although I do not pretend that my position is a priori true, this will be repeated once again my vision of the problem.
          1. atalef
            atalef 13 September 2013 19: 59 New
            +6
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            You moved into a communal apartment, and according to the people living there, it wasn’t legal

            The State of Israel is a full member of the United Nations; no one (except you and some Arab friends) raises its legitimacy; the USSR was one of the founders (or rather revivers) of the state of Israel.
            By the way, if your knowledge did not extend a little further than your nose. Then ask yourself at least a simple question. Where is Jesus from? who was he by nationality, where did he live and ... were there Arabs at that time.
            at the request of you to stop it, you immediately began to beat your neighbors in the mouth

            The day after the proclamation of the city of Israel, the armies of the 8 Arab countries came in and declared war.
            Naturally, they tried to get together and evict the impudent tenant, but you have a friend, a policeman, with the help of whom you beat your neighbors again and this happens every time, you don’t talk and try to agree, you hit and beat him right away, that’s why they don’t like you your neighbors.

            Such nonsense. such knowledge of neither history nor facts. At least read something on the topic, or is there nothing in the head besides 70's political information so far?
            1. tilovaykrisa
              tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 20: 23 New
              +1
              You are too emotional, I gave you an example "naturally exaggerated" that is understandable for you, I know the history of your state education no worse, and most likely better than you.
              That is why I do not give you "Proofs, links and other things"
              1. UN recognizes if they ask the United States anyone.
              2. You do not need to see any anti-Semitic statements in my commentary.
              3.You so violently see everyone as a source of aggression for your country that you become absolutely blind.
              1. atalef
                atalef 13 September 2013 20: 42 New
                +2
                Quote: tilovaykrisa
                I know the story of your state education no worse, but most likely better than you.

                Do not flatter yourself, you do not know her absolutely

                Quote: tilovaykrisa
                .UN recognizes if they ask the United States anyone

                Another pearl. But what about the right * veto * of Russia?

                Quote: tilovaykrisa
                There is no need to see any anti-Semitic statements in my commentary.

                Of course, especially considering
                Quote: tilovaykrisa
                your government education

                those. the word Israel is not exactly pronounced. not even able to write
                Quote: tilovaykrisa
                .You so violently in all see the source of aggression for your country that you become absolutely blind.

                No, this is what you see around enemies. Muslims to me, and Arabs have never been enemies. Exclusively regimes trying to destroy my country and their supporting countries.
                1. tilovaykrisa
                  tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 20: 45 New
                  +2
                  Let the last word be yours, this discussion is not for me hi
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 13 September 2013 20: 52 New
                    +1
                    Quote: tilovaykrisa
                    Let the last word be yours, this discussion is not for me

                    As always, I decided to sit out in the rear laughing By the way. why is the nickname in English? belay
                    1. tilovaykrisa
                      tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 21: 09 New
                      +3
                      Got Habits Abroad laughing And about sitting out ... well, how do you imagine our further discussion? Well, for example, I’ll give you proofs, links to the fact that the USSR sent volunteers and carried bulk carriers to you (conditionally) and some countries of the Warsaw Pact that without this help the Arabs would have drowned you in blood and dumped into the sea, that it’s Brits and the United States was not on your side at that moment, but you will argue that this is only your victory and that the USSR betrayed you, and that’s why you went under the wing of the United States. all this is meaningless. I am not against Israel, not against the Jews, I am not even opposed to your goals, namely to ensure my own security and I can understand this, I don’t like your methods and the fact that you, like the United States, have only usurped the right to decide who is good in your region who is bad. But this, as they say, is a topic for a separate discussion.
                  2. bask
                    bask 13 September 2013 21: 05 New
                    0
                    Quote: tilovaykrisa
                    Let the last word be yours, this discussion is not for me


                    tilovaykrisa, I'm sorry to interfere with your discussion with Mr. Atalef.
                    You thought it was a simpleton, it was an opponent hardened in discursive battles ,,, a pity. It’s a pity that all his appanions were banned, which he immediately blacklisted. It’s me, Mr. Atalef, you can rejoice at your local victory.
                    Quote: atalef
                    By the way. why is the nickname in English?

                    I'm not in English, in Basque. am
                    1. tilovaykrisa
                      tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 21: 16 New
                      0
                      I did not think that he was a simpleton, by and large I do not care who he is, but at least a veteran of forum battles, the issue of bans does not interest me because I do not slip into emotions, the reason is simple this topic has exhausted itself for me at the moment, there is no "professional" , and without it it's boring sad
                      1. bask
                        bask 13 September 2013 21: 34 New
                        0
                        Quote: tilovaykrisa
                        nya, there is no "professional", but without him it's boring

                        Agree good , pan prof ... can ignite on the topic !!!
                        It is interesting to conduct discussions with him.
                        bully
                        And Israel needs to stock up gas masks thoroughly.
                        After the strike on Syria, it will be for anyone. From Iran, everything that flies and poisons will fly from Israel to Israel.
                      2. tilovaykrisa
                        tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 22: 00 New
                        0
                        For gas masks, look at my kament and the professor’s answer to it in another topic. This question was raised jokingly by me, but he answered it extremely interestingly.
                    2. atalef
                      atalef 14 September 2013 00: 29 New
                      +4
                      Quote: tilovaykrisa
                      the question of bans does not interest me because I do not slip into emotion

                      The character is nordic, persistent, not subject to emotions laughing
                      belay

                      Quote: tilovaykrisa
                      You are stupid and wretched, and this is not only visible to me.
                  3. atalef
                    atalef 14 September 2013 00: 27 New
                    +3
                    Quote: bask
                    . It is a pity all his appanas banned

                    Half revived, by the way were banned solely for violations of the rules of the forum. Like sowing nat. discord. insults, etc. Apparently, when your former homies run out of arguments, nothing smarter

                    Quote: tilovaykrisa
                    You are stupid and wretched, and this is not only visible to me.

                    They cannot say.
                    Specially for the rat, no weapons were delivered to Israel through the countries of the Warsaw lair. through the Austro-Hungarian empire of Czechoslovakia the same there once entered. And much earlier than the events you describe.
                  4. atalef
                    atalef 14 September 2013 11: 24 New
                    +2
                    Quote: bask
                    Quote: atalef
                    By the way. why is the nickname in English?
                    I'm not in English, in Basque.

                    Dear BASK, I would not want to upset you, but Basque (in Basque) -
                    BASQUE
                    g / em
                    euskaldun
                    Quote: bask
                    BASQUE
                    g / em
                    euskaldun

                    Therefore, your nickname has nothing to do with the Basque language or the Basques themselves. Could write in Russian (which would be much more correct) from an etymological point of view, and not write this word in the AMERICAN LANGUAGE laughing

                    Quote: bask
                    This is me, Mr. Atalef, you can rejoice at your local victory.

                    Not the last time, with respect. hi
            2. atalef
              atalef 13 September 2013 21: 01 New
              +4
              Quote: tilovaykrisa
              .You so violently in all see the source of aggression for your country that you become absolutely blind.

              It is strange to hear this from a connoisseur of the history of Israel. Blind? For Xnumx Years
              We have a peace treaty from 4's countries surrounding us with 2, and even if they are wonderful, but fairly equal relations. Tell me, in 25 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, how many friends did Russia make (from former enemies)? As long as I see that friends (from the former social camp, to countries that have been fed for decades from the USSR feeding trough - who have remained faithful to friendship) from the 15 republics of the USSR, partly hates Russia, partly latently. Former satellites of Russia, still part of the Russian empire and living side by side with the Russians, turned into open enemies (Georgia, the Baltic states, Moldova), part in * chock of uninhabited * as many say on the site .A * enemies * became even more of them.
              Even Ukraine, about which on the site recently just a sea of ​​frankly provocative articles, the apotheosis of which was today's about the possibility of war. Read the comments.
              We are not blind, you are blind in your hatred and hypertrophied conceit.
              1. tilovaykrisa
                tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 21: 17 New
                +2
                Let's get back to you, OK? otherwise we didn’t drink together in my memory hi
              2. uhu189
                uhu189 13 September 2013 22: 22 New
                0
                Dear Atalef, a small question - have you been in Russia for a long time? I’ll venture to suggest, for your judgment, that for a long time. But about this poetry.
                Did Russia have friends? Real friends who were ready, if anything, to support any decision of the USSR and completely share it? Only Mongolia, Vietnam and Bulgaria come to my mind, that's all. Well, maybe Syria and Algeria are from Arab countries, and even then with an interference. The rest of the countries simply took advantage of the situation, and when the country collapsed, they simply changed their bearings. Everything fell into place. And let me suggest that they no longer hate the country, but the leadership that brought the great country to a miserable existence during many years of "reforms", you don't know. And a certain amount of nationalism (but by no means hatred) is just the reaction of people to the policies that are going on in the country. You can hardly imagine how tired of hearing the news every day about how one "oligarch" bought shares of an enterprise from another, to the creation of which they had never had anything to do, how the government once again speaks of the need to develop technologies, industry, etc. .d. And at the same time, he doesn't do it, and if he does, it turns out as always, as in business forums from year to year they pour from empty to empty - and nothing happens? When, walking in the evening across the Lieutenandt Schmidt Bridge in my native St. Petersburg, I meet 19 out of 16 people I meet - natives of the southern republics? And only 2 girls are tourists and only one Russian guy? Do you think that in such conditions you will not become a nationalist? Will you write slogans? Yes, because all this has gotten people. Because you want justice, not hypertrophied conceit. No one in Russia has a desire for world domination, there is no sense of superiority over everyone else - there is only a desire to live normally, in a normal country and in a normal world, where at least countries are not bombed just like that, because it was beneficial for someone, where neighbors play on small things, even to the detriment of themselves, and where they live normally in the world ... And you say blind, conceit ...
                1. atalef
                  atalef 13 September 2013 23: 08 New
                  +5
                  [quote = uhu189] Dear Atalef, a small question - have you been to Russia for a long time? [/ quote
                  ] a month ago, (by the way, and in Ukraine)
                  [quote = uhu189] I’ll venture to suggest from your judgment that for a long time. But about this poetry [/ quote]
                  They took a chance. I didn’t slip - it happens (I just don’t understand the essence of the claim) I really liked Russia (as well as Ukraine). By the way I travel regularly
                  [quote = uhu189] True friends who, if something happened, were ready to support any decision of the USSR and completely divide it? Only Mongolia, Vietnam and Bulgaria come to my mind, and that’s it. Well, maybe Syria with Algeria - from the Arab countries, and even then with an interference. [/ Quote]
                  By the way, Mongolia is interesting. Being in Russia (a month ago), my friend’s mother just returned from a trip to Mongolia (she is a labor veteran in Russian Railways). They (Mongols) have not been friends for a long time. (her words. not mine)
                  [quote = uhu189] The rest of the countries - just took advantage of the situation, and when the country fell apart - just changed their guidelines [/ quote]
                  What are you saying, but I thought disinterestedly. By the way, not so long ago there was a Bulgarian (nickname warrior) on the site - his spread rot in the best traditions of friends. (by the way, he answered in the same way) Do not drag Syria into friends. The same thing stuck, grandmothers would end - friendship would end. By the way, remind me (the same Syria) of what Russia supported? When? Where?
                  [quote = uhu189]. You probably hardly imagine how tired it is to listen to the news every day and at the same time doesn’t do any fucking, and if it does, it turns out as always, how is it watered from empty to empty from year to year in business forums - and nothing happens? [/ quote]
                  This is what you choose. Or someone voted for you

                  [quote = uhu189] When I, walking in the evening on the Leytenandt Schmidt bridge in my native St. Petersburg, meet from 19 people I met 16 - natives of the southern republics? And only 2 tourist girls and just one Russian guy? [/ Quote]
                  I liked Peter (I myself am from there), there are a lot of southern peoples (if you drive through the countries of Europe, you will see), and there is no need to exaggerate. Walking around Peter I saw a quite adequate number of people of normal Slavic appearance.
                  [quote = uhu189] Do you think that in such circumstances you will not become a nationalist? [/ quote]
                  No, I have Arabs at work, and there are enough of them around. this does not mean that I should hate them. By the way, many of the people of non-Slavic appearance are the same Russian citizens as you are.
                  [quote = uhu189] Yes, because it’s all people already got it. [/ quote]
                  Vote - or lose.
                  [quote = uhu189] Because justice is wanted [/ quote]
                  And not the Slavs here? Or is it they in the intervals between cleaning the streets, turn into oligarchs or give non-selling campaign promises.

                  [quote = uhu189] No one in Russia has a desire for world domination, there is no feeling of superiority over all others [/ quote]
                  Come on . read the comments well, at least about the brothers Ukrainians
                  [quote = uhu189] - there is only a desire to live a normal life in a normal country [/ quote]
                  All in your hands. When I met with my friends (for this I go, once in 2-3 of the year) I wish them never to work how they work in Israel (in the heat and 12 hour workday is almost normal) Although I understand that you don’t work it will turn out, but with the work (more precisely, the attitude towards it, you (in Russia) are a little tight), I know what I'm talking about
                  [quote = uhu189], where at least countries would not be bombed just like that, [/ quote]
                  Do you cry. Have you ever heard an air raid siren? Or sat in a bomb shelter * Or the Grad crashes from you in 50m. torn apart. or a hurricane worked in a kilometer or in broniks in order to give Palestinians electricity, (and they will fire at you for that). What do you cry for? Oil sea, superpower, Veto right to the UN, the people of 180 million, territory half the globe, the entire periodic table. Who should cry? To you? Do not make me laugh.
                  1. uhu189
                    uhu189 14 September 2013 01: 10 New
                    +1
                    Okay, close my eyes to poking, it's on your conscience. There is no atalef, even if you come regularly to us, you do not see a lot, do not be offended. This is not a complaint, I just read your comments and see it. Apparently, the outlook has changed a little. I will try to give small remarks - about working 12 hours a day - there is no need to put emphasis on this, I know a lot of people who work for 14 hours, and it happens without days off, and not only in the heat, but also in the cold, you don't need to introduce everyone like stupid lazy people. He who wants to work works. Second, I did not cry, as you misunderstood, but tried to explain where people got such a mood from. I judge by myself - thank God I am not in poverty, I live normally, I have a job, I have a house, my family is not hungry, but when I think about what is happening in the country, I want to kill many. And the desire for justice arises not in relation to oneself, but in relation to the entire society. And this justice has nothing to do with non-Slavs, just migrants in a huge number of cities and even more suburbs (not the ones that clean the streets and work in stores, but completely different ones who don't even try to speak Russian and live in their communities ) is another annoying factor that causes rejection in people in the form of expressions such as "chocks", etc. I think this is wrong, but I can perfectly understand such people. In St. Petersburg, thank God, there are many Russians, but over the past year and a half, the number of migrants has increased greatly, even if it hasn't caught your eye ... But as for hail, hurricanes - no, of course, not. But I happened to get caught up in bandit shootouts by accident, I have some idea ... Comments about domination are not from a great mind, and again from an overabundance of emotions. They are also present in your comments, I think you can see it yourself.
                    Here with the elections - you really made fun of it))))). There are hardly any people inside the ruling now elite who are ready to put this elite into consumption, and so far this elite has not allowed people from outside into the leadership. But this is only for now ...
                    Okay, don’t be offended if you say anything, I didn’t mean to offend you, it’s always interesting to read your comments
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 14 September 2013 10: 58 New
                      +2
                      Quote: uhu189
                      Okay, I close my eyes to poking, it's on your conscience.

                      about poking, believe me, I didn’t want to offend anyone and have already written dozens of times. It's just that in Hebrew there is no appeal to you and 20 years left an imprint. My poking in no way reduces my respect for both you and other site participants

                      Quote: uhu189
                      then you don’t see much, don’t be offended

                      Well, it has long been known - not to confuse tourism with permanent residence. But I can only talk about my impressions and God forbid I do not act as an expert.

                      Quote: uhu189
                      do not imagine everyone as stupid idlers

                      Lazy people are not always stupid, but at work in Russia they don’t bother. I must admit the obvious

                      Quote: uhu189
                      And the desire for justice arises not in relation to oneself, but in relation to the whole society

                      If everyone starts with himself -
                      will change much faster. The desire to ennoble everyone and everything ends as a rule with terror and dictatorship
                      Quote: uhu189
                      just migrants in a huge number filling cities and even more suburbs

                      You know, a million came to Israel in 90 (in 6 years), 17% of the population (it would seem that millions of 6 would have arrived in Russia in 30 years), I think in their eyes we are not very different from chocks. Neither language, nor mentality - nevertheless, there were no excesses such as Russian with Gaster, and over the past 20 years * Russians * have taken leading roles in Israeli society. Oddly enough, but when I have a son or daughter of an employee (native of Israel) marry * Russian * in my district, this is now said with pride


                      Quote: uhu189
                      . Comments about domination are not from a great mind and, again, from an overabundance of emotions.

                      If you are talking about comments on the topic of Ukraine - it seems like 70% of site members have no brain as an organ at all

                      Quote: uhu189
                      Here with the elections - you really made fun of it))))). There are hardly any people inside the ruling elite who are ready to spend this elite


                      I have nothing to make fun of, our prime minister usually changes every 3 of the year, in Europe and the States presidents and premieres change regularly. Moreover, their standard of living is somehow still higher, like everything else.
                      Of course, only STABILITY laughing no, the truth is not clear what Putin is investing in this sense.
                      Quote: uhu189
                      Okay, don’t be offended if you say anything, I didn’t mean to offend you, it’s always interesting to read your comments

                      That's why the forum and you !!! they didn’t offend me. Good luck !!!!!
                    2. Ezhaak
                      Ezhaak 14 September 2013 11: 22 New
                      0
                      Quote: atalef
                      our prime minister usually changes every 3 years

                      http://guide-israel.ru/country/10365-spisok-premer-ministrov-izrailya/
                      Well yes. Everything fits with the latter. But soon he will be replaced. It seems that the Israelis are very fond of this supporter of the "hawks".
            3. largus886
              largus886 15 September 2013 10: 37 New
              0
              And Russia has only two friends Army and Navy!
    2. ruslan207
      ruslan207 13 September 2013 21: 19 New
      +2
      atalef -America you covered the whole Middle East with blood, it’s not beautiful. Lithuania, for example, received Klaipeda and Belarussian Vilnius, Georgia was saved from the Ottoman Empire, and in general the USSR supplied weapons to Israel through Czechoslovakia in 1948
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 22: 04 New
        0
        Delivered and directly and through the Warsaw Pact countries. But now, doesn’t it matter anymore?
        1. atalef
          atalef 13 September 2013 23: 17 New
          +2
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          Delivered both directly and through the Warsaw Pact countries. But now, doesn’t it matter anymore?

          Deuce to you once again (as an expert on the history of BV and Israel in particular)
          Warsaw Pact - 1955 year. Only in an inflamed mind, it can seem that in the 1955 year the USSR sent weapons to Israel
          In February 1955, Great Britain refused to sell weapons to Egypt, which worsened relations between the countries. Egypt concluded an agreement on the supply of various types of weapons with the allies of the USSR.

          You want to say that the USSR sold weapons to both Israel and Egypt belay
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 14 September 2013 00: 12 New
            0
            You are narrow-minded, and this is visible not only to me, add your complete illiteracy and sources in the wiki, I am disappointed in you, learn to be interesting as a "professor" against his background, you are nothing that does not even deserve a passing comment.
      2. atalef
        atalef 13 September 2013 23: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: ruslan207
        atalef -America you covered the whole Middle East with blood, it’s not beautiful. Lithuania, for example, received Klaipeda and Belarussian Vilnius, Georgia was saved from the Ottoman Empire, and in general the USSR supplied weapons to Israel through Czechoslovakia in 1948

        USSR - Konigsberg and the Kuril Islands. By the way, afterwards they supplied weapons to the Arabs with the sole purpose of destroying Israel (so that, due to the fault of the USSR, the same blood was spilled on the BV).
        By the way, in the Second World War, America put quite a few weapons on lend-lease., But thank you somehow from you (I mean the 0 forum users have never heard
    3. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 14 September 2013 10: 41 New
      0
      Quote: atalef
      Or maybe you want to say Georgia or the Baltic states a strong economy and army? And this is to be noted despite the fact that none of these countries specifically attacked Russia.

      First, why not wish them a strong economy,
      And further, continuous propaganda. What will Israel do if killing of Israeli citizens, Jews in particular, begins in a neighboring country?
      With Georgia, Sasha, you never know, Lieberman and Netanyahu did not tell you that there was an attack on Russian peacekeepers and many of them were shot in the back. A truly masculine act, isn't it? And you do not know that most of the inhabitants of South Ossetia have Russian passports. And this is an attack on Russian citizens. No commitment to double standards. Do it stealthily, as usual.
      1. atalef
        atalef 14 September 2013 12: 02 New
        +5
        Quote: Hedgehog
        First, why not wish them a strong economy,

        Well, so wish it, so openly, with words like- I want a strong economy in Europe, Georgia and the States (you are the same neighbors) By the number of minuses you will understand whether your impulse corresponds to the general mood
        Quote: Hedgehog
        And further, continuous propaganda. What will Israel do if killing of Israeli citizens, Jews in particular, begins in a neighboring country?

        It’s strange that in Israel there are more Russian citizens than in Ossetia, Abkhazia, Syria, Lebanon, in the entire BV — taken together. Nevertheless, in the 2-th Lebanon (started by Hezbollah) and in which Russian citizens died (including mine friend Cyril)
        and the last two days in the battles with terrorists in southern Lebanon, two reservists were killed, both returnees from the former USSR, Kirill Kazhdan and others. Game Rotshtein. They became the first reservists killed in the current war.



        26-year-old Corporal Kirill Kazhdan from Haifa. He was killed in battle near the village of Aita a-Shaab, when terrorists fired an anti-tank missile into the building in which our soldiers were operating. In this battle, four more soldiers were injured.

        Cyril was a fighter of the Golani brigade, which he was very proud of, as his aunt, Lyudmila, told the Ynet correspondent. In reserve, he belonged to the Alexandroni company. He received a summons last Sunday when he returned with his girlfriend from a vacation spent in Eilat. He knew that he would go to war in Lebanon, and was ready for this. “He had no fear,” said Lyudmila. “He is the son of a former military man and learned from his father to be a good soldier. He always dreamed of military units and knew that he would go to Lebanon, like everyone else. As soon as he received the summons, he immediately appeared. ”

        Nevertheless, there wasn’t a single statement from Russia towards Lebanon, but about Russian weapons (ATGM and so on) that ended up in Hezbollah’s hands (via Syria, in violation of the end-user certificate - if you know what this is about) and I killed a lot of Russian citizens generally keep quiet
        Quote: Hedgehog
        Lieberman and Netanyahu did not tell you that there was an attack on Russian peacekeepers and many of them were killed by shots in the back

        Saakashvili - URO.D., Medvedev, by the way, is no better. We must be able to bring two fraternal peoples to open hostility and war. And for some reason, Russia, as a great country, didn’t have the intelligence and the will to crush it radically by political methods and diplomacy. As a result, everyone lost. But this is not your personal business.

        Quote: Hedgehog
        And this is an attack on Russian citizens

        Not a hypocrite. There are over 600t of Russian citizens in Israel (of which 25% are just Russians). Nevertheless, half of the site is ready to erase us from the face of the earth using any available type of weapon.

        Quote: Hedgehog
        No commitment to double standards. Do it stealthily, as usual.

        Who are you talking about? In my opinion about myself.
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        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 14 September 2013 13: 28 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Well, so wish it, so openly, with words like- I wish a strong economy in Europe, Georgia and the States

          And here is a huge sign "STOP" Above about Europe separately and about states there was no speech !!! And I wish the Georgians and the Baltic states !!! With all my heart.
          Quote: atalef
          Israel Russian citizens more than in

          Honestly, this does not shake me, especially if they are, in addition, the citizens of another country. The likes of Nevzlin, who are supposed to be in prison, yes, are hiding in Israel.
          Quote: atalef
          26-year-old Corporal Kirill Kazhdan from Haifa

          He chose his own path, or rather, his parents, who knew where and why their children were being taken. After all, many of you were brought to Israel in infancy. Thank your parents for giving you the opportunity to die is unknown for what. By the way, what did that corporal do near the village of Aita a-Shaab? This is Lebanon, but Russia did not send its citizens there.
          And are you sure that he did not have time to kill one of the Libyans or to contribute to this?
          and about Russian weapons (anti-tank systems and so on) that ended up in the hands of Hezbollah

          You never know where weapons get from somewhere. Like Afghanistan and Russian weapons fall through the states.
          Quote: atalef
          But this is not your personal business.

          How does this not apply? And what a demon the Israelis are preparing for the Georgian warriors before the attack on Tskhinval. Well, no, either be responsible for everything, or be silent in a rag.
          Quote: atalef
          In Israel, more than 600 tons of Russian citizens (of which 25% are just Russians)
          I have already noted above that I am indifferent to those who have acquired a second citizenship; they are Russians just in case. But Ossetians are ONLY Russians without a second citizenship. Feel the difference! And the killed peacekeepers were in the service in Russia.
          Quote: atalef
          Who are you talking about? In my opinion about myself.

          About you, the Israelis, in mass. If it were my will, I would force the returning Israelis to take the oath of Russia, and for violating it I would simply drive them back to Israel, depriving them of Russian citizenship.
          And at the end of the conversation, explain to me very dark, what is shown in the picture and in what language of the inscription. I'd like to know. It’s a pity, the second is not inserted, I will throw it off the next post.
          1. atalef
            atalef 14 September 2013 14: 36 New
            +2
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Honestly, this does not shake me, especially if they are, in addition, the citizens of another country. The likes of Nevzlin, who are supposed to be in prison, yes, are hiding in Israel.

            Well of course. I just didn’t hear that Ossetians and Abkhazians would renounce Georgian citizenship

            Quote: Hedgehog
            He chose his own path, or rather his parents, who knew where and why their children were being taken

            Of course. so if you read. I would understand

            Quote: atalef
            Cyril was a fighter of the Golani brigade, which he was very proud of, as his aunt, Lyudmila, told the Ynet correspondent. In reserve, he belonged to the Alexandroni company. He received a summons last Sunday when he returned with his girlfriend from a vacation spent in Eilat. He knew that he would go to war in Lebanon, and was ready for this. “He had no fear,” said Lyudmila. “He is the son of a former military man and learned from his father to be a good soldier.

            There is something to envy. he went to defend his second homeland.

            Quote: Hedgehog
            How does this not apply? And what a demon the Israelis are preparing for the Georgian warriors before the attack on Tskhinval.

            Israel is the only country that stopped the export of arms to Georgia after the war (unlike the friends of Russia - Ukraine. Bulgaria. Partly Serbia, etc.)
            But what about the weapons supplied by Russia to the enemies of Israel? Already at the worst end a draw. But Russia has never given a damn about Russians in Israel

            Quote: Hedgehog
            I have already noted above that I am indifferent to those who have acquired a second citizenship; they are Russians just in case.

            Yes ? But what about the Russians with Syrian citizenship ? With Georgian, with Moldavian. with the citizenship of the republics of Central Asia?

            Quote: Hedgehog
            If it were my will, I would force the returning Israelis to swear an oath to Russia, and for breaking it I would simply drive them back

            Your will. while somehow going to Israel more than back. Oddly enough, we do not demand this, and yet people in the bulk of the patriots of Israel. Or do you think the oath will achieve something?

            Quote: Hedgehog
            And at the end of the conversation, explain to me very dark, what is shown in the picture and in what language of the inscription.

            I don’t know where the pictures are from. It is written TNT flooded (more precisely, pouring) And?
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Here it is, I suspect it's ammo
            Even a hedgehog is clear, there is a caliber written. AND?
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 14 September 2013 14: 56 New
              0
              Quote: atalef
              I just didn’t hear that Ossetians and Abkhazians would renounce Georgian citizenship

              - Do you see a gopher?
              -not
              -And it is!
              Quote: atalef
              he went to defend his second homeland

              And, probably, having previously refused to defend his FIRST Homeland. Leaving her.
              Quote: atalef
              With Georgian, with Moldavian. with the citizenship of the republics of Central Asia?

              Many of them NEVER lived in Russia and would very much like to move here. For a second year my acquaintance from Baku cannot sell an apartment for normal money to buy here.
              They did not repatriate from Russia. I voiced my attitude towards the fugitives. You should understand the difference, which many of you do not know how.
              Quote: atalef
              as it goes to Israel more than back

              I do not deny it, but they also leave Israel for more prosperous countries.
              Quote: atalef
              Even a hedgehog is clear, there is a caliber written. AND?

              It remains only to voice the language. The answer is not complete. I guess, but shy to pronounce. what
              1. atalef
                atalef 14 September 2013 15: 04 New
                +3
                Quote: Hedgehog
                And, probably, having previously refused to defend his FIRST

                Refused? And that the school had to take a gun?
                Did you serve it yourself? Well, at least in Chechnya?

                Quote: Hedgehog
                Many of them NEVER lived in Russia and would very much like to move here

                Not a fact. far away

                Quote: Hedgehog
                I do not deny, but also from Israel leave for more prosperous countries

                I do not deny the same thing, but I never called them traitors.

                Quote: Hedgehog
                It remains only to voice the language

                Even the blind to the touch will understand that Hebrew. Photos from where?
                1. Ezhaak
                  Ezhaak 14 September 2013 15: 26 New
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  Did you serve it yourself? Well, at least in Chechnya?

                  Oh, when Chechnya began, I was already completely unapproachable. In no way. The rest does not play a role.
                  Quote: atalef
                  Not a fact. far away

                  The exception here is the Baltic states. But there is no question of them.
                  Quote: atalef
                  never called them traitors

                  For the sake of curiosity, type this word in the search on this page. In this sense, NO ONE except you used it!
                  Quote: atalef
                  Photos from where?

                  These are not pictures, these are frames pulled from videos. One of Damascus, and the second of one of the cities of Syria freed from bandits. Something like this.
                  Anyway. Thank you very much for the truth.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 14 September 2013 15: 54 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Hedgehog
                    Oh, when Chechnya began, I was already completely unapproachable. In no way. The rest does not play a role.

                    Of course !!!!! When it came to Kirill (and the defense of the homeland) despite the fact that he was a schoolboy and in Russia (the USSR) it was quiet and calm - this is regarded by you as a refusal. But in your case - when the war was on the territory of the Republic of Russia, your supposedly not conscript age is such a reason. which prevented you from fulfilling your patriotic duty.
                    Cyril was a reservist for a long time, long served, but on the first agenda he went to fight and died. You - a patriot (in words) beautifully hid behind his not recruiting age. - how easy it is to judge others without noticing yourself

                    Quote: Hedgehog
                    These are not pictures, these are frames pulled from videos. One of Damascus, and the second of one of the cities of Syria freed from bandits. Something like this.

                    Well ? This is what anti-personnel mines and a box of ammunition. Thousands were left both in Lebanon and delivered to dozens of countries. I remember Musin’s story in which rolls of toilet paper with inscriptions in Hebrew were presented almost as advanced weapons. From that series, probably, but what can you say about this
                    Cornets captured during the 2-th Lebanon war
                    Hezbollah: C-802 anti-ship Iranian cruise missile, Grad multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) of Iranian and Chinese production. Missiles of the Fajar, Zilsal, Raad-1 class - missiles are launched with metal balls to enhance the damaging effect; "Competition", "Metis-M" produced by the USSR, "Cornet" of Russian production, Russian RPG-29 grenade launchers [74] и
                  2. Ezhaak
                    Ezhaak 14 September 2013 16: 11 New
                    0
                    Quote: atalef
                    your supposedly not conscription age

                    Sasha, it looks like you're trying to unbalance me!
                    Moreover, you are rude to the elders. Did your parents teach you this ??? חֻצְפָּה is it called, or what?
                    Quote: atalef
                    This is what anti-personnel mines and a box of ammunition

                    That's what I asked you about, you answered, what is the problem?
                  3. atalef
                    atalef 14 September 2013 19: 17 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Hedgehog
                    Sasha, it looks like you're trying to unbalance me!
                    Moreover, you are rude to the elders. Did your parents teach you this ??? חֻצְפָּה is it called, or what?

                    And why did you decide that you (sorry for poking, but we have known each other for a long time) are older than me, and if older, by a lot?

                    Quote: Hedgehog
                    That's what I asked you about, you answered, what is the problem?

                    Do not understand ? So what? In our store, Russian-made vodka is sold, so that in all cases of Israeli alcoholism is Russia to blame?
                  4. Ezhaak
                    Ezhaak 14 September 2013 19: 36 New
                    0
                    Quote: atalef
                    And why did you decide that you (sorry for poking, but we have known each other for a long time) are older than me, and if older, by a lot?

                    There is reason to believe that there is a 20 year difference. I am not at all offended by "you". Internet, you see.
                    Quote: atalef
                    In our store, Russian-made vodka is sold

                    DOES NOT play any role. We have a Habana club for sale and no one is blaming Cuba.
                  5. atalef
                    atalef 14 September 2013 19: 51 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Hedgehog
                    There is reason to believe that there is a 20 year difference. I am not at all offended by "you". Internet, you see.

                    I doubt it deeply, of course my mother scribbles the same on the forums, and if you get close to 70, of course, respect, but nevertheless, I believe a little

                    Quote: Hedgehog
                    DOES NOT play any role. We have a Habana club for sale and no one is blaming Cuba.

                    So I'm talking about it, but where are the pictures from? Really in Syria they captured whole warehouses, and even with the date of manufacture after 2001 (I recall in 2001 (or 2000) I don’t remember Israel left Lebanon. Musin was like an Israeli jeep (Sufa 1, which was finished in 2003) , passing him off as deliveries of modern SSA weapons, only so stupidly that he even managed to show the date of the last T.O., glued to the glass 2000 year laughing. A jeep thrown in Lebanon was dragged to Syria and shown to those not burdened by intellect under the guise of undeniable evidence, like with toilet paper, or pasta with Israeli markings - as evidence of the transfer of SSA food.
                    Weak for evidence
                    Do you see a gopher?
                    - Not
                    in this case, he’s really not there tongue
                  6. Ezhaak
                    Ezhaak 14 September 2013 21: 17 New
                    0
                    Quote: atalef
                    I doubt it deeply

                    And here you are frankly pierced with disbelief. 70 not yet, but a little left.
                    Quote: atalef
                    as with toilet paper or pasta with Israeli labeling - as evidence of the transfer of CCA food.

                    It is not difficult to buy this evidence in a nearby shop. But what is in my pictures is only in the "Young Technician" stores, which do not exist in Syria.
                  7. Botanologist
                    Botanologist 14 September 2013 22: 21 New
                    0
                    Guys, what are you so passionately about? About the right of Israel to its policy or about whom it is time to bomb?
                    Enough already, let's go wasting a furrow.
                  8. Ezhaak
                    Ezhaak 15 September 2013 10: 38 New
                    0
                    Quote: Botanologist
                    Enough already, let's go wasting a furrow.

                    We are just talking. Nilzya ??? You can simply skip and not read. laughing
                2. atalef
                  atalef 14 September 2013 22: 35 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Hedgehog
                  And here you are frankly pierced with disbelief. 70 not yet, but a little left.

                  I respect old age, but not cooked (3-musketeer).

                  Quote: Hedgehog
                  But what is in my pictures is only in the "Young Technician" stores, which do not exist in Syria.

                  Read the political information of 70's to grandchildren. In 70, there is nothing else but frantic stamps imprinted by 50's years of propaganda. Yours faithfully hi
                3. Ezhaak
                  Ezhaak 15 September 2013 10: 42 New
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  In 70 tons there is nothing but frantic stamps,

                  Well, what kind of sick fantasies? Show me one. Well, I didn’t even say anything about the pictures, although I could. And you sculpt and sculpt. As if the anti-Soviet had read. hi
    4. largus886
      largus886 15 September 2013 10: 58 New
      +1
      WELL YES, try not to defend the second homeland instantly in jail, but on the first you can easily otmazatsya, fortunately doctors and lawyers are all your Jewish brothers !!!!! Something I did not observe conscripts in Chechnya.
    5. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 15 September 2013 11: 26 New
      0
      Quote: largus886
      Something I did not observe conscripts in Chechnya.

      Do not wait! good
  • Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 14 September 2013 13: 30 New
    0
    Here it is, I suspect it's ammo
  • Mature naturalist
    Mature naturalist 15 September 2013 22: 18 New
    +1
    If anyone remembers, it was like this with South Ossetia: about a week before the Georgian attack, women and children started to be taken out by buses. It turns out that they knew about the attack? Why not prevented? Maybe because it was necessary to get what we have on the world map today. Big politics at the expense of the lives of peacekeepers?
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 September 2013 11: 58 New
    +3
    The leadership of the Jewish state does not confirm or deny information about the presence of nuclear weapons in Israel. At the same time, Israel, being a member of the IAEA, in every possible way evades joining the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.


    Yes, these are those rogues. "We are not to blame, our hut is on the edge!"
    But neither the Merikatos, nor their henchmen, will "spin" these affairs. Because other "fried" facts will come out, but they do not want this.
  • Tommygun
    Tommygun 13 September 2013 13: 46 New
    +3
    Do not dare to shoot Damascus!
    Better together e-him in Tel Aviv!
    1. Dober
      Dober 13 September 2013 14: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: Tommygun
      Let's

      A tempting idea, and it has millions of followers, but if (in your words) "fuck around Tel Aviv together" and then be friends at home ... what
      After all, spiders will scatter around the planet, but does anyone need it? stop
      Let it be better to keep the prepared dust with them until "E hour". And they themselves are crowded together.
      Wishing to e-nut enough.
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 13 September 2013 21: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Dober
        After all, spiders will scatter around the planet, but does anyone need it?

        Yes, first you need to wait. Until the fence itself is built around the perimeter, and everyone will gather ... laughing
    2. atalef
      atalef 13 September 2013 19: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: Tommygun
      Do not dare to shoot Damascus!
      Better together e-him in Tel Aviv!

      Of course, because in Tel Aviv there are more Russian citizens in 8 times than in all of Syria.
      1. il grand casino
        il grand casino 13 September 2013 20: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Tommygun
        Do not dare to shoot Damascus!
        Better together e-him in Tel Aviv!

        Of course, because in Tel Aviv there are more Russian citizens in 8 times than in all of Syria.

        Atalef, in order to understand this, you need to understand at least some of the essence of the matter. Do not expect this from most commenters. I’m sorry for expressing crap with dislike of Israel ... in real life, I have never seen such a thing anywhere))) Interesting ...
  • S-200
    S-200 13 September 2013 14: 22 New
    +6
    Quote: Professor
    You are allowed to call God's chosen people. After all, he chose the Jews?

    oh, don't make atheists laugh with Darwin! ....
    after all, even a schoolboy knows that Jews evolved either from the Arab, or from the African monkeys ... wassat ( like everyone else)
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 14: 27 New
      +2
      If you combine both of your positions, you get something like "God's chosen descendants of either Arab or African monkeys"
      Nonsense, of course, is not all this, we are all aliens, so to speak, migrants on planet Earth laughing
      1. S-200
        S-200 13 September 2013 16: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        If you combine both of your positions, you get something like "God's chosen descendants of either Arab or African monkeys"
        Nonsense is certainly not all this.

        and you go to any department of biology and directly state THIS to them! ... fellow
        maybe for your scientific postulate immediately nominated for the Shnobel Prize .. lol
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 17: 14 New
          +1
          They don’t pay for shnobelevke wassat and for free I put out brilliant thoughts only here on the forum, and in vain you’re talking about monkeys, they don’t behave like that like some representatives of the human race laughing
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 13 September 2013 15: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: S-200
      it is known that Jews evolved from the Arab, or from the African monkeys.

      Well, let them be a little proud of their origin and election. Speaking of selectness. This has nothing to do with ordinary Jews, for they do not praise their god in prayers. Rather, it is directly related to Jewish Orthodox. But there are none.
      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE_%E5%E2%F0%E5%FF%F5_%E8_%E8%F5_%EB%E6%E8
      1. S-200
        S-200 13 September 2013 16: 55 New
        0
        hi Of course, this is a friendly teasing of former compatriots with a very similar mentality ... wink
      2. atalef
        atalef 13 September 2013 19: 48 New
        -1
        Quote: Hedgehog
        for they do not praise their god in prayers.

        An ordinary hedgehog is a small animal. The length of his body is 20 — 30 cm, tail - about 3 cm, [3] body weight - 700 — 800 g. [4] Ears are relatively small (usually less than 3,5 cm). The muzzle is elongated. The nose of the animal is sharp and constantly moist..

        In fact, God is one, although who knows, maybe he has his own hedgehogs. laughing
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 13 September 2013 21: 29 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Actually, God is one, although who knows, maybe he has his own hedgehogs

          YES there is no god.
          But about the hedgehogs do not need so primitive. Hedgehogs are many different. Only in Russia there are at least three species. Learn at your leisure. Here you have a clear lack of knowledge.
          Subfamily Hedgehogs real
          Subfamily real hedgehogs - Erinaceinae
          African Hedgehogs (Atelerix)
          African pygmy hedgehog (Atelerix albiventris)
          Algerian hedgehog (Atelerix algirus)
          South African hedgehog (Atelerix frontalis)
          Somali hedgehog (Atelerix sclateri)
          Hedgehogs (Erinaceus)
          Amur hedgehog (Erinaceus amurensis)
          White-bellied Hedgehog (Erinaceus concolor)
          European hedgehog (Erinaceus europaeus)
          Eared Hedgehogs (Hemiechinus)
          Ethiopian Hedgehog (Hemiechinus aethiopicus)
          Long-eared Hedgehog (Hemiechinus auritus)
          Indian Eared Hedgehog (Hemiechinus collaris)
          Long-Needle Hedgehog (Hemiechinus hypomelas)
          Indian hedgehog (Hemiechinus micropus)
          South Indian Hedgehog (Hemiechinus nudiventris)
          Daurian hedgehogs (Mesechinus)
          Daurian hedgehog (Mesechinus dauuricus)
          Central Chinese hedgehog (Mesechinus hughi)
          Subfamily Rat Hedgehogs
          Subfamily rat hedgehogs or gimnures - Hylomyinae
          Woolly hedgehog, anthem (Echinosorex gymnura)
          Small Gimnures (Hylomys)
          Hylomys hainanensis
          Hylomys megalotis
          Hylomys parvus
          Hylomys sinensis
          Hylomys suillus
          Philippine Anthem (Podogymnura)
          Podogymnura aureospinula
          Podogymnura truei
        2. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 22: 03 New
          +1
          Who do you worship?
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 14 September 2013 10: 25 New
            0
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            Who do you worship?

            A little unclear to whom the question is. But it’s not difficult for me to answer either.
            I worship my family. Family, children - this is the most important thing in life. Everything else is secondary and inconsequential.
            1. GREAT RUSSIA
              GREAT RUSSIA 14 September 2013 15: 39 New
              0
              Sorry, of course. I support you about the family and its values. But Motherland, friends, they are also important.
              1. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 14 September 2013 15: 46 New
                +1
                Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
                . But homeland, friends, they are also important.

                A good family man has family in the first place. IMHO.
                Friends, this is secondary, the Motherland is identified with the family. All this is IMHO and not otherwise. smile
                1. GREAT RUSSIA
                  GREAT RUSSIA 14 September 2013 15: 57 New
                  0
                  Well now it’s clear, with respect hi .
    3. Rumata
      Rumata 14 September 2013 17: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: S-200
      oh, don't make atheists laugh with Darwin! ....
      after all, even a schoolboy knows that Jews evolved either from the Arab, or from the African monkeys ... (like everyone)

      Blasphemy!!! According to the new rules, there should be perm-ban =)
  • pensioner
    pensioner 13 September 2013 15: 02 New
    +3
    It is necessary to show the first picture of Kerry. Great evidence of Israel’s chemical weapons. It can be seen that a Jew in a gas mask:
    -tricky glance;
    thick eyebrows;
    gas mask of Jewish design.
    The presence of rubber overalls in the background proves that he, as part of the brigade, has just poured sarin into small containers. And what? With Syria, such evidence was rolled (until recently).
    But seriously, no one doubted that Israel has a wide range of WMDs.
  • kafa
    kafa 13 September 2013 15: 31 New
    +5
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: mejik
    Lord chosen people!

    You are allowed to call God's chosen people. After all, he chose the Jews? wink

    professor stop hokhmite there are very nervous and poorly mannered males (neither in the SA nor the RA or the IDF did not consist but such cool ayvai as I’m afraid, they’ll give a bullet out of a game ..........
  • kafa
    kafa 13 September 2013 15: 49 New
    0
    Quote: kafa
    Yes, Israel has both chemical and nuclear weapons and the CIA just woke up with good morning fellow

    YOU remember the beginning of the topic! even the last Peruvian gopher knew yes there !!! I said so right away! decided to measure the butterscotch? !! Well, none of you will be there, but those who saw the ship on TV about the army will start pheasanting. A neighbor, a front-line soldier, personally destroyed two cellars of poisoned wine .................
  • tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 17: 10 New
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: retired



    Vaanunu passed information about nuclear weapons, Klingberg about bacteriological. No one has yet passed on the chemical. Just speculation and gossip.


    Don’t worry, there will be good people who will hand over your chemistry too, for several thousand sheikels laughing
    1. Professor
      Professor 13 September 2013 17: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      Don’t worry, there will be good people who will hand over your chemistry too, for several thousand sheikels

      Both traitors were ideological and worked for free.
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 17: 19 New
        +1
        Right now, there are no ideological left, continuous progmatism and craving for profit in the heads wassat
  • olviko
    olviko 13 September 2013 17: 32 New
    +4
    atalef (2) IL

    “All thanks to the tireless concern of the USSR and the desire of 400 million Arabs to destroy us.
    Do not help the USSR to the Arabs, there would be no wars with Israel (as well as their shameful defeats) We would not need weapons. "

    An interesting topic, let's look at the classics:
    David Ben Gurion once said to Naum Goldman, President of the World Jewish Congress: “If I were an Arab leader, I would not seek compromises with Israel. No wonder: we took their country from them ... We came from Israel, but two thousand years have passed since then - what do they care? We have seen anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but what was their fault? They see only one thing: we came and stole their land. Why on earth should they put up with this? ”

    Yitzhak Shamir, a terrorist who later became prime minister, said that "neither Jewish ethics nor Jewish tradition condemn terrorism as a means of warfare."
    As prime minister, Golda Meir made her famous remark: “There are no Palestinians” ...
    1. Professor
      Professor 14 September 2013 22: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: olviko
      David Ben Gurion once told Naum Goldman

      Do you still have the link?

      Quote: olviko
      Yitzhak Shamir, terrorist,

      What terrorist acts did he carry out? He blew up a school, a disco, took a plane hostage?

      Quote: olviko
      who later became prime minister, said that "neither Jewish ethics nor Jewish tradition condemn terrorism as a means of warfare."

      A link to his words in the studio.

      Quote: olviko
      As prime minister, Golda Meir made her famous remark: “There are no Palestinians” ...

      Well, why didn't you finish her phrase? And it sounded like this: "There is no nation like the Palestinians; they never existed. Until 1948, we were Palestinians."(June 15, 1969)

      But the "Minister" of Internal Affairs and Security of the Hamas government in Gaza Fathi Hamad made a statement on the air of Al-Hekma TV.

      Half of the Palestinians are Egyptians, and the other half are Saudis! Who are the Palestinians? Yes, these are people whose ancestors moved here from Cairo, Alexandria, from Aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are all Egyptians! We are all Muslims! We are a part of you!

      Hamas: Half the Palestinians are Egyptians, half are Saudis
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 14 September 2013 22: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        Do you still have the link?


        Oleg, good evening hi
        You and I can write old-timers on the forum anyway. I can’t understand why such hostility towards you
        1. Because of your flag ?!
        2. Because of your personality ?!
        3. Due to your comments ?!
        4. And maybe the first, second and third ?! winked

        In any case, I give you credit, in terms of engaging in all-round defense, as well as how you fight back. laughing
        1. atalef
          atalef 14 September 2013 22: 36 New
          +3
          Quote: Apollon
          . And maybe the first, second and third ?!

          Hi Apollo, it's like in the answers on the theory of driving - all the answers are correct hi
        2. Professor
          Professor 14 September 2013 22: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: Apollon
          You and I can write old-timers on the forum anyway. I can’t understand why such hostility towards you

          You have long been beckoning to know to understand that I am not interested in being attractive to the public and unpleasant. I always uphold my point of view, even when it does not go in the general direction. I do not pass by urapatriotov and Natsik.
          A check mark is an irritant. I would have removed all of these flags altogether. Personality? Personally, no one here knows me, not even the administration.
          Maybe I am like that

          maybe this


          wink
          1. atalef
            atalef 14 September 2013 22: 59 New
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            maybe this

            and I probably like that
        3. Botanologist
          Botanologist 14 September 2013 23: 04 New
          0
          Quote: Apollon
          I just can’t understand why such hostility towards you


          It seems to me for several reasons:
          1. Cultural In Russia, a touch of anti-Semitism has always been present. And, I think, will always be present.
          2. The professor argues "head-on", and this way of arguing in the Russian tradition immediately turns the discussion into a showdown. And the showdowns, accordingly, pass on to the individual.
          3. The professor clearly occupies one side (Jewish, of course), because of this, his position cannot be flexible and debatable. And any inflexible position makes you want to jump on it wassat
          4. Many on the forum remember well how the USSR fought with Israel and helped everyone around. It was a dispute between two camps - the USA and the USSR. There is no USSR, the world has become different, but we all remember simple things (friend or foe). And that is left. It will remain for a long time.
          5. Israel, from the point of view of the Russian people, does not always behave honestly. I mean, the bombing of Syria during the civil war is a rather vile thing in the perception of Russian people. Therefore, the Professor can argue with anything, but the sediment remains. And this precipitate extends to the Professor when he defends the right of Israel to do anything when he wants.
          Something like that.
      2. atalef
        atalef 14 September 2013 22: 30 New
        +2
        Hi Oleg . ......................
        It's nice to see you after fasting alive, healthy and full of energy. hi
        1. Professor
          Professor 14 September 2013 22: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          It's nice to see you after fasting alive, healthy and full of energy.

          What you won’t do for the sake of enhancing the sensations of the Murphys jar after fasting. drinks
          1. atalef
            atalef 14 September 2013 22: 48 New
            +1
            Quote: Professor
            What you can’t do for the sake of enhancing the sensations from Bucky Murphys after fasting.

            According to the rules of the site, foreign words are deleted. Have a nice record.
      3. olviko
        olviko 15 September 2013 09: 02 New
        +1
        About Ben Gurion. Such a refined Jew as you should know all the statements of the first Prime Minister of Israel by heart. The authority and importance of Ben Gurion in Israel is no less than George Washington in America.



        "The Palestinians are descendants of the indigenous people of Palestine who lived here even before the settlement of the land by Jews in the 8th century BC [9]. This is the opinion of the leftist Israeli politician and journalist Uri Avnery. [7] According to these authors, the Palestinians are descendants Canaanites and Philistines, mixed with the descendants of other peoples who invaded Canaan throughout history - Babylonians, Hittites, Egyptians, Jews, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs and Turks.According to this version, in the XNUMXth century after the Arab invasion, the local population converted to Islam and gradually switched to Arabic "Wikipedia

        Yitzhak Shamir initiated such Lehi operations in 1944 as the attempted assassination of the British ruler of Palestine, Harold McMichael, and the assassination of Lord Edward Guinness. Even as the Prime Minister of Israel, he continued to be on the British terrorist list. Notice the professor, the Zionist Shamir was killing the British at the time when England was at war with Nazi Germany, destroying the Jews!
        A poster of the British police in Palestine, offering a reward for the capture of members of the "Stern gang" (Lehi). Yitzhak Jezernitsky (Shamir) is depicted in the center of the poster.
        1. Professor
          Professor 15 September 2013 09: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: olviko
          About Ben Gurion. Such a refined Jew as you should know all the statements of the first Prime Minister of Israel by heart.

          So, a link to his statements in the studio.

          Quote: olviko
          Yitzhak Shamir initiated such Lehi operations in 1944 as the attempted assassination of the British ruler of Palestine, Harold McMichael, and the assassination of Lord Edward Guinness.

          So you want to say that Shamir was a terrorist because he fought with the British military, and not civilians? And he did it not in Britain ...

          Quote: olviko
          "The Palestinians are descendants of the indigenous people of Palestine who lived here even before the settlement of the land by Jews in the 8th century BC [XNUMX]. This is the opinion of the leftist Israeli politician and journalist Uri Avneri

          Strong source. You will not say anything. It is strange why, before the creation of the state of Israel, it was the Palestinians who called the Jews living there? Guess what the Bank of Palestine is called today? And the most interesting thing is when the Arabs first called themselves Palestinians? Jibril Rajub and Pope Assad to quote? laughing
          1. olviko
            olviko 15 September 2013 12: 37 New
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            Your perseverance, about the link, is already getting ridiculous, why do you need it? because you consider only the source that confirms your innocence to be strong, everyone else is either doubtful or false. Although, if you please, I’m not sorry: http://zvezda.ru/geo/2007/09/21/israel.htm
            About the terrorist Shamir. "So you want to say that Shamir was a terrorist because he fought the British military." Agree, a strange argument, Israel, for example, recognizes all Palestinians fighting against the Israeli occupation as terrorists, although they kill IDF soldiers in Palestinian territory. And Count Bernadotte is somehow not drawn to the British military. "He again became one of the leaders of Lehi. He was among those who were preparing the assassination of Count Folke Bernadotte, the UN mediator in the Middle East. On September 17 of the same year, the militants from Lehi (according to some Shamir was among them) they shot him in Jerusalem.
            After this assassination, Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion banned the activities of Lehi. But to this day, many Israelis regard the extremist organization as "a dark spot on the country's history." pliz link: http://www.peoples.ru/state/minister/israel/shamir/
            As for Rajub and Pope Assad - why do I need them? Wikipedia is a fairly strong source.
            1. Professor
              Professor 15 September 2013 12: 47 New
              +1
              Quote: olviko
              Your perseverance, about the link, is already getting ridiculous, why do you need it?

              find out where you get false information.

              Quote: olviko
              Although, if you please, I’m not sorry: http://zvezda.ru/geo/2007/09/21/israel.htm

              Do you really think that I didn’t google Ben Guruin’s supposed line? It's bullshit, he didn't say that. Nobody indicated the source, only "somehow ..".

              Quote: olviko
              About the terrorist Shamir

              Was Shamir recognized as a terrorist by any court? Arab terrorists are recognized as terrorists by the court, and they have the right to a free lawyer, etc. Not all accused are recognized by the court as such ...

              Quote: olviko
              He was among those who prepared the assassination of Count Folke Bernadotte, the UN mediator for the Middle East.

              evidence of preparation or rumors again?

              Quote: olviko
              Wikipedia is a fairly strong source.

              Everything is clear with you, I take my leave. Wiki in your arms.
              1. olviko
                olviko 15 September 2013 13: 56 New
                +1
                Well, understand, understand! So they would immediately say that you get information directly from mines. Israel’s defense and the Mossad, and Ben Gurion pronounced his pearls only strictly in your presence. Let me also take your leave, mutually.
  • Ross
    Ross 13 September 2013 18: 02 New
    +3
    Quote: Ruslan_F38
    What's the difference? It is not the lack of "brains" in him or them that is to blame, but a perverted perception of the world, perverted psychology, lack of principles, norms of morality and ethics.


    It is laid by their religion since childhood.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 13 September 2013 20: 11 New
    +1
    Soon, articles will come from the secrets of the CIA that Israel has a nuclear bomb. Everyone knows about it and the CIA doesn’t. That's with chemical weapons ........
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 13 September 2013 20: 21 New
    +2
    While reading comments (especially professors) I remembered an article on the forum (Israel asks the USA for additional funding for armaments and not a feeble amount ..) I remember professors asking where so much and why (Israel is so full of all kinds of weapons) It was before 21 August ... An interesting situation ... is not it ...? And the professor rarely began to appear on the site .. (it’s hard for them now to notice traces there ..))
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 20: 30 New
      +3
      "Profesor" is the most adequate in his own way, he will shield the actions of the leadership of his country with foam urta until the last blow of his heart, and in my own way, I understand him, I hope he does it disinterestedly laughing But other comrades pour in emotions but do not shine with logic.
      1. Professor
        Professor 14 September 2013 22: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        "Profesor" is the most adequate in his own way, he will shield the actions of the leadership of his country with urta foam until the last blow of his heart

        There is no gag. I am critical of the actions of the Government of Israel more than you can imagine. For example, I was against the cancellation of the operation in Gaza.
  • Roman_999
    Roman_999 13 September 2013 20: 41 New
    0
    I think I guess where these political dwarfs come from with chemical warfare compounds.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 13 September 2013 20: 53 New
    +7
    Quote: tilovaykrisa
    "Profesor" is the most adequate in his own way, he will shield the actions of the leadership of his country with foam urta until the last blow of his heart, and in my own way, I understand him, I hope he does it disinterestedly laughing But other comrades pour in emotions but do not shine with logic.

    I respect professors and always read his comments (I’m not even pleased with the pleasure) .. he writes realistically (in his understanding (and you need to read them too and shake them .. .. (it’s hard for him here ..) they should be here .. adequate people ... It makes you think and compare .. Here so something bully
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 21: 11 New
      +1
      Plus, I agree with you, I also never minus him, even if I do not agree with him.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 13 September 2013 22: 14 New
    -3
    Quote: tilovaykrisa
    "Professor" is the most adequate in his own way, he will shield the actions of the leadership of his country with urta foam until the last blow of his heart and in my own way I understand him, I hope he does it disinterestedly

    Comrade Stalin! soldier I’m sure not. Not for free. stop The professor is a project created to create through the Internet the sphere of the image of the IDF as an invincible, high-tech army, as well as to discredit all forces opposing Israel. am The assumption that repeatedly repeated information will cause people to hesitate in assessing certain events. recourse Moreover, all this is wrapped in an attractive wrapper of extensive technical and historical knowledge, plus witty remarks. Here the Professor is strong, you can’t say anything ... Well, and (perhaps) even with the help of the Professor some information is being fished out, which someone could accidentally lay out in the polemic fervor. God grant that it would be in vain to fish out ... Although without it, of course, it is boring.
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 22: 33 New
      0
      He as a forum celestial is simply necessary, if it were not for him, it would be worth creating hi
      And about the fact that he’s a spy, it’s so normal, all the Jews in their hearts are scouts laughing
    2. Professor
      Professor 14 September 2013 22: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: retired
      true no. Not for free.

      If you are sure, pay so. You can throw off on paypal. It seems that you were present when I received the money. Do you know what it's called? Slander. In a decent society for such a face beat.

      Quote: retired
      Then the Professor is strong, you can’t say anything ...

      Duc and you are teaching materiel to you who is stopping you from doing this? Severe childhood or Tsahal?

      Quote: retired
      .Well and (possibly) with the help of the Professor some information is being fished out, which someone could have accidentally laid out in the polemic fervor.

      Paranoia is already being treated today. fool
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 13 September 2013 22: 14 New
    0
    And yet, you can’t believe Israel. !!! We are waiting for provocations ... ISRAEL RULES IN THE WORLD! RUSSIA must fix it all .. And we will do it sooner or later .. (disarmament of Israel .. under the auspices of the peacekeeping forces !! it sounds fabulous ... heh heh .. and yet it is possible ..)))
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 22: 34 New
      0
      It is desirable that the current is not with our hands stop
      there are 400 mulen artists.
      1. mvg
        mvg 22 September 2013 03: 51 New
        0
        so these 400 are periodically destroyed .. ArIz wars, peacekeeping operations, gundosh themselves in the form of revolutions ... All the same, you need to help .. But they know how to fight when among themselves. But how to send the God's chosen ones back (to God), they mess up :-( So maybe Israel doesn’t suffer terrorists, but their Arabs, for training?
  • Roman_999
    Roman_999 13 September 2013 22: 15 New
    +3
    Quote: Roman_999
    I think I guess where these political dwarfs come from with chemical warfare compounds.

    I’m being minus, it turns out we have an Israeli lobby here. Yes, like everywhere else, however, or the state did not ruin a political dwarf .... I wonder what the minus signifies - is it like against ALL !?
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 13 September 2013 22: 36 New
      +1
      The lobby of the sons of Israel exists, a fact, they wipe my koments. But at minus you score, the rating on this forum does not mean anything, your position is more important.
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 14 September 2013 10: 12 New
      0
      Quote: Roman_999
      they minus me

      Do not worry! in such topics, this can be considered a hidden plus. Your post to someone very strongly presses on the crotch and creates some inconvenience. This means that sometimes you are right as never before. Take a look at my posts, I don’t worry, it will all pass and there will certainly be someone who likes your words.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 14 September 2013 00: 40 New
    0
    Quote: Roman_999
    Quote: Roman_999
    I think I guess where these political dwarfs come from with chemical warfare compounds.

    I’m being minus, it turns out we have an Israeli lobby here. Yes, like everywhere else, however, or the state did not ruin a political dwarf .... I wonder what the minus signifies - is it like against ALL !?

    And here + -...? Write simply and that's it .. squealing here is useless ... (no offense ...))
  • olviko
    olviko 14 September 2013 06: 01 New
    +1
    "Profesor" is the most adequate in his own way, he will shield the actions of the leadership of his country with urta foam until the last blow of his heart. "

    Well then, it’s not adequate, and the lawyer - Israel, of course. His position certainly deserves respect, unlike our all sorts of "swamp hamsters" and others like him. Learn, gentlemen, how to love your homeland! Israel has no less nasty things than Russia, but you won't hear that from the "professor", for him Israel is the best country in the world. Not surprisingly, this is the Jewish upbringing. Jews are a nation - where
    everyone considers himself a prophet, and Israel is the center of the universe. Something like this.
    1. Professor
      Professor 14 September 2013 22: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: olviko
      ! There is no less nasty in Israel than in Russia, but you won't hear it from the "professor", for him Israel is the best country in the world

      And you read my articles. About bullying in Tsakhal, etc., and only then draw public conclusions.
      1. olviko
        olviko 15 September 2013 14: 04 New
        0
        Professor (1)
        "And you read my articles"

        So, a link to your articles in the studio.
        1. Professor
          Professor 15 September 2013 21: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: olviko
          So, a link to your articles in the studio.

          But what about your favorite Wikipedia? Have you been looking there? wink

          The case of bullying in the Israeli army
  • faraon
    faraon 14 September 2013 07: 51 New
    +4
    Yes, Israel has the above types of weapons and even more than necessary.
    And you dear forum users wondered why and why?
    Probably not, but think so lgically. Since the establishment of the state of Israel, there have been only six wars to destroy the state, not counting numerous military conflicts. But now someone has street plans for the destruction of Israel. For this, Israel has a strong prepared army with defense doctrine. more than once confirmed on the battlefields. But for some reason none of the members of the forum want to admit it.
    You speak for the professor, and he is a true patriot of his own country, who tells you in his comments about the true situation in the Middle East, and at the same time gives undeniable arguments.
    All of these weapons are available, but they are not intended to rattle them like some countries do, but only for that. in order to cool hotheads. For Israel, the use of this weapon will be the last argument and no one is hiding it, but Israel does not threaten anyone and does not tremble on every corner like Iran about the use and purpose of this weapon.
    Now about the export of its products. Israel exports and produces not only weapons but also agricultural and high-tech products, as well as cooperates with Russia in the medical, agricultural, space, military and other high-tech fields. Israel, that you are ready to raze it to the ground.
    You cry for Palestine, you advocate the creation of a state of Palestine. Have you ever made an attempt to understand this conflict, and what will happen after the creation of this state.
    In short, I will try to explain to you the essence.
    Since the creation of the state of Israel, the country has transformed from a small town called Tel Aviv into a high-tech state. Well, and that Palestine still remained at the level of 1948, I think that in 65 years it was possible to create industrial infrastructure, social institutions to demand independence.
    Regardless of what? From UN Permanent Assistance, from begging money from the world community while not yielding anything in return. Imagine such a paradox that Israel collects taxes for autonomy, while in order to prevent a humanitarian catastrophe, it supplies water, electricity, gas to autonomy and the Gaza Strip (Khamostan) at the expense of taxpayers in Israel. At the same time, while providing jobs to residents of the autonomy. So what kind of state are we talking about. A beggar who will sit on the scruff of his tongue as a parasite to the entire international community.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 14 September 2013 10: 01 New
      0
      Quote: faraon
      telling in your comments the true situation in the Middle East, and at the same time gives undeniable arguments

      But who doubts this ??? All of the above is true, except for some small things. And he and you personally are silent, bypassing what Israel exposes in a bad light. Example? The other day I gave you a couple of pictures. but you personally did not answer. And if I'm not mistaken, one photo came to you again. This already suggests that talking about pictures is simply unprofitable for you personally and for Israel in particular. You are frankly silent about some of the goals of Zionism.
      Quote: faraon
      only six wars to destroy the state have passed

      Is it a little or a lot? B in general, how many should pass from your point of view? Given the fact that Israel acted as an aggressor.
      1. atalef
        atalef 14 September 2013 22: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: Hedgehog
        Given the fact that Israel acted as an aggressor.

        Grandfather, VIKI read who started the war. Or the meaning is somehow not clear. The aggressor being attacked is your invention? You see, I’m already on you
        My uncle is the most honest rules .... well continued you know laughing
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 15 September 2013 10: 53 New
          -1
          Quote: atalef
          WIKI read who started the war

          In February 1949, an Egyptian-Israeli truce was concluded on the island of Rhodes ...
          In July 1956, Gamal Abdal Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal, which belonged to England and France. Egypt, Syria and Jordan entered into a military alliance. Israel, dedicated to Anglo-French intervention plans for the return of the Suez Canal, decided to launch a preemptive strike to capture the Sinai Peninsula.
          On October 29, 1956, the Israeli offensive began, taking the Egyptians by surprise. By November 5, most of Sinai was under Israeli control. The Egyptian army was demoralized and retreated, dropping weapons and equipment. 6 thousand Egyptians were captured.


          But with us, I don’t know about you, there are examples of more modern nationalizations in my memory, and the neighboring countries did not start wars there!
          My uncle is the most honest rules

          I don’t know, I don’t know, I can answer ONLY for his uncle. And I had a lot of them.
    2. mvg
      mvg 22 September 2013 04: 04 New
      +1
      All members of the forum respect the Israeli army, probably the most experienced of all on the planet .. And reconnaissance and the Air Force are about 2-3 in the world (in the USSR they thought, what did the aerobatic teams have to do with that their flyers were the most prepared!), Well, after ours, of course: - ), it is simply clear that the "professor", "afalet" and the hedgehog with them, as they are arguing more reasonably, (probably envy) the knowledge .. :-), so they rush :-) I wonder if they "erase "who will the Arabs choose for their enemies?
  • olviko
    olviko 14 September 2013 08: 40 New
    +1
    Well you give faraon! Just an oil painting, Israel, you got some kind of fabulous, white and fluffy. Of course, we respect patriotism, but why make fools out of the members of the forum. Thinner you need to work respected, finer!
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 14 September 2013 17: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: olviko
      but why from the members of the forum to make fools

      Have you read the comments, at least, to this article ?? It is too late to make fools of members of the forum, everything has been done for a long time. You will go over your eyes at the comments, and you get the impression that you got into the house of the mentally ill ...
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 14 September 2013 17: 32 New
        -1
        Quote: Rumata
        one gets the impression that he got into the house of the mentally ill ...

        You're right dear, there are many Israelis here. Such topics cannot do without them. They do not let you forget about yourself. fellow
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 14 September 2013 15: 36 New
    +1
    Israel suspected of having chemical weapons
    And no one suspects Israel of having the largest illegal stockpile of nuclear weapons? And no one suspects of stockpiles of biological weapons?
    1. atalef
      atalef 15 September 2013 07: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      Israel suspected of having chemical weapons
      And no one suspects Israel of having the largest illegal stockpile of nuclear weapons? And no one suspects of stockpiles of biological weapons?

      Illegal reserves can only be in countries such as Libya, South Africa, Brazil (I write about countries that have brought my program to create a bomb), but at the last moment they stopped or India (having created it) in Pakistan (they were all in the NPT treaty Israel never signed this treaty, therefore, it doesn’t violate anything a priori, for which it (Israel) is denied access to nuclear technologies, student training, etc. submitted by the IAEA, and is forced to develop all of itself technologies. Like no one can deprive Iran Rights to a Peaceful Program to a member of the NPT), and no one has the right to deprive Israel of the right to develop their own programs outside the framework of this treaty. If Israel violated any of the posts of this treaty, it would have long ago come under the sanctions of the Soviets without the United Nations. As in the case of Iran, unnecessarily the main co-sponsors and guarantors of the NPT treaty America and Russia.
  • mvg
    mvg 22 September 2013 02: 23 New
    0
    That's who Snowden studied with
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 10 November 2013 05: 48 New
    0
    Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
    Israel suspected of having chemical weapons
    And no one suspects Israel of having the largest illegal stockpile of nuclear weapons? And no one suspects of stockpiles of biological weapons?


    No more illegal than in Russia tongue
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 10 November 2013 05: 56 New
      0
      Sir, Ass Russia is a member of the nuclear club and is strictly observing its obligations. What can you say about your country? love That's right, don’t say anything, so keep quiet