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China pushes Russian gas

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The American news agency Bloomberg, referring to some unannounced sources, just recently said that China is going to actively participate in the privatization of Siberian oil and gas fields, which today belong to the largest Russian companies Rosneft and Gazprom. It is reported that we can talk about the purchase of the so-called minority stake in the Chinese company Petrochina, a member of the Chinese oil and gas corporation CNPC. Chayandinskoe and Kovykta deposits with total gas reserves of approximately 2,75 trillion cubic meters are called those fields where Chinese may come.


China pushes Russian gas


So far, neither Gazprom nor Rosneft have confirmed the information on the Chinese proposal, however, there are still grounds for not considering the message from Bloomberg. The fact is that only about a week ago, the Russian gas producer and processor of “blue” fuel (the second after Gazprom) Novatek signed a contract with the Chinese side for the sale of an 20% stake in the Yamal LNG project. The buyer of 20% of the shares was still the same Chinese CNPC, which, apparently, decided to more than actively come to the Russian market.

It is worth recalling that Yamal LNG is a project for the construction of an enterprise for the production of liquefied gas in the Yamal Peninsula. It is planned to deliver liquefied natural gas to the end user with the help of special gas tankers, which may not be afraid of even ultra-low arctic temperatures. One of the main importers of liquefied gas from the Yamal LNG project will be the Celestial Empire, whose oil and gas corporation has gained access to gas production at the South Tambeyskoye field and LNG production. It should also be recalled that the share of the Russian company Novatek in this project before the contract with the Chinese was not equal to 100%. Before the desire to participate in the project of a Chinese company, the French expressed a similar desire. Sayings resulted in a desire to acquire 20% of the shares, and exactly these 20% were bought out by the French. Thus, it turns out that the stake in the Yamal LNG project remained in the hands of Novatek shareholders by 60% (20% is owned by French company Total, and 20% by the Chinese CNPC).

Prior to 20, a percent of the shares of the Chinese company Petrochina is going to buy back from Gazprom also when implementing a project to produce gas in the East Siberian fields. In this case, the cost of the transaction is tentatively estimated at 10 billion dollars, which is called, live money. In other words, the Chinese are going to invest $ 10 billion now in the development of hydrocarbons in Eastern Siberia, and then, according to the letter of the contracts concluded between Russia and the PRC, to pump the negotiated volumes of gas to the Celestial Empire by creating a joint venture with the same Gazprom.

These events occur against the background of constant conversations in the Russian government about the need to attract foreign investors, which will help to pull our economy out of prestagnational state and add growth to it. It would seem that everything is just perfect: the desires of the Russian cabinet finally coincided with the desires of the very foreign investors, and the money will now flow into Russian projects by the river. However, a number of fears and questions immediately arise here (I would like to hope that the concerns about this are unfounded).

One of these concerns is this: 10 billion dollars - is this the “river” that today will give the Russian economy a full-fledged impetus for substantial development? Obviously, not the same ... Brussels with Paris and Berlin to little Greece already hundreds of billions, forgive, it is swelling, but no progress is visible. Moreover, Russia is not Greece at all, if only because the potentials of the Russian and Greek economies (with all due respect to the Greeks and their economies) are incomparable. Unlike the Greek one, there is enough money in the Russian economy, but we don’t have the mechanisms to make this money work.

Well ... Do not even need to talk about the Russian economy as a whole. It is enough to consider only Gazprom. It would be strange to assume that this giant will not find 10 billion dollars from its almost 150 billionth annual turnover for the full-scale development of the above-mentioned fields of Eastern Siberia. If it does not find it, then either the volume of capitalization of this company is voiced too high (which is unlikely, since the assessment goes far not only from representatives of Gazprom itself), or Gazprom is given the command - not to seek.

Novatek, with its more modest turnover (about 3,5 billion dollars a year), can be understood: investment assistance will be useful to it. The only thing is that Novatek and Gazprom deal with, let's say, a specific product — natural resources, which, as quoted in the Constitution (Art. 9, p. 1), “are used and protected in the Russian Federation as the basis life and activities of the peoples living in the relevant territory ". They (Novatek and Gazprom) do not seem to make pots or chewing gum to make it so easy to decide which foreign company to sell shares of the country's strategic facilities — hydrocarbon deposits ... So, the constitutional thesis itself “... is protected in the Russian Federation as the basis of life ... "already lost relevance? Who is protected by whom is protected from? Is that, PSC oil and gas companies from us with you ...

The following picture turns out: China, which has concluded multi-billion contracts with Russia for the supply of hydrocarbons, simply does not want to buy these hydrocarbons, but wants to participate in their production and transportation. What for? Yes, everything is very simple. If China bought gas from Russia as an ordinary buyer for the near future, it would simply transfer money to the accounts of Russian companies, receiving raw materials as the final consumer. That is, I would wait for Gazprom or Novatek to pump gas from Siberian fields and run it through pipes (or in tankers in the form of LNG) to Celestial. Buying shares in a joint venture on the territory of Russia, China pays not so much for the gas itself, as for the opportunity to participate in large-scale projects for the development of Russian fields with all the attendant - getting their own profits, opening jobs for their own employees, paying a certain share of taxes to China treasury, etc. Moreover, joint ventures with foreign participation may receive benefits from the Russian state due to the fact that mining is conducted in difficult conditions and is aimed at developing a strategically important region. For the Chinese side, the project is more than profitable. But for the Russian? ..

Of course, friendship with China (if there really is one) needs to be cherished. But friendship is friendship, and the snuff is apart. If it is foreign investments that are so important to the government, then why do we need to choose strategic commodity sectors? Do we have few other projects in which foreign companies could effectively invest. Yes, only foreign companies are not eager to invest their billions, for example, in Russian factories for the production of medicines, quality furniture, environmentally friendly fuel. It is much more profitable for them to invest in our raw materials, so that later we, using this raw material, sell our products, developing our own economies and opening new jobs for our fellow citizens.
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  1. predator.3
    predator.3 13 September 2013 07: 15 New
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    It is enough to consider only Gazprom. It would be strange to assume that this giant will not find 10 billion dollars from its almost 150 billion annual turnover for the full development of the above fields in Eastern Siberia. If it does not, then either the volume of capitalization of this company is voiced too high (which is unlikely, since the assessment goes far not only from Gazprom’s representatives), or Gazprom has been instructed not to find it.


    This is closer to the truth, you can not let the Chinese into our garden! It already looks like colonialism.
    1. MrFYGY
      MrFYGY 13 September 2013 07: 24 New
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      This is a betrayal.
      1. Orel
        Orel 13 September 2013 08: 09 New
        -4
        The more Chinese investment there is in Russia, the less likely it is that there will ever be a military conflict between us. I am far from thinking that China is ready to destroy the billions of dollars invested in Russia overnight through military aggression. So you should not be afraid of Chinese money. I don’t think it will hurt us ...
        1. Kibalchish
          Kibalchish 13 September 2013 08: 47 New
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          One prominent Sinologist said: "Looking at the policy of our government, it seems that there are entirely Chinese agents." am
          1. Semurg
            Semurg 13 September 2013 10: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: Kibalchish
            One prominent Sinologist said: "Looking at the policy of our government, it seems that there are entirely Chinese agents." am

            Are there Zionist, Pro-Western Chinese agents of the servant of the three masters too many? laughing
        2. vyatom
          vyatom 13 September 2013 11: 47 New
          +9
          Quote: Orel
          The more Chinese investment there is in Russia, the less likely it is that there will ever be a military conflict between us. I am far from thinking that China is ready to destroy the billions of dollars invested in Russia overnight through military aggression. So you should not be afraid of Chinese money. I don’t think it will hurt us ...

          Over time, they will simply "squeeze" the deposits and "croise into a corner". There is nothing we can do. I think this is a payment for loyalty in the situation in Syria, at the expense of a Russian citizen. We already went through this when Nikita Khrushchev handed over the atomic bomb to China, etc.
          The Asian Chinese, and they perceive such admiration as a sign of the weakness of their neighbor. 1969 proved it. When only the use of real force dotted I. And the constant "coaxing" of the eastern neighbor: giving up the disputed island, transferring technology for our weapons, in the hope that China will be our ally is very, very doubtful. Now here are the deposits.
          1. Papania
            Papania 13 September 2013 14: 18 New
            +2
            So they perceive all this as a weakness. Talk to them for a couple of bottles of prude and you will hear something else from the Chinese.
        3. creak
          creak 13 September 2013 12: 18 New
          +4
          Instead of advocating for foreign investments, including Chinese ones, one would first have to put things in order at home, maintain a domestic producer and not a foreign one, in particular, take care of the outflow of capital from the country, which, according to preliminary data for 6 months of this year, exceeded 38 billion . dollars. Then, you see, many infrastructure facilities could be implemented on their own
        4. Kyrgyz
          Kyrgyz 13 September 2013 19: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: Orel
          The more Chinese investment there is in Russia, the less likely it is that there will ever be a military conflict between us.

          In the event of such a conflict, victory in China is by no means guaranteed even by 50%, regardless of investment
        5. alone
          alone 13 September 2013 20: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Orel
          The more Chinese investment there is in Russia, the less likely it is that there will ever be a military conflict between us. I am far from thinking that China is ready to destroy the billions of dollars invested in Russia overnight through military aggression. So you should not be afraid of Chinese money. I don’t think it will hurt us ...


          The Chinese are peacefully seizing the region with all natural resources. Why should they fight?
      2. AVV
        AVV 13 September 2013 11: 08 New
        +5
        Selling a national treasure is stupid, while storing capitals in American banks, where are the brains ???
      3. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka 13 September 2013 15: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: MrFYGY
        This is a betrayal.

        This is life, or rather fear.
        With this development, China has little space, it needs resources and they are doomed to expand.
        1. Kyrgyz
          Kyrgyz 13 September 2013 19: 19 New
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          Quote: Vovka Levka
          With this development, China has little space, it needs resources and they are doomed to expand.

          India's population density is higher until it attacks anyone
          1. Conepatus
            Conepatus 13 September 2013 19: 44 New
            +1
            And they won’t attack. Hindus are only warriors against Pakistan, the rest are simply afraid.
          2. Vovka levka
            Vovka levka 13 September 2013 20: 20 New
            +1
            Quote: Kyrgyz
            Quote: Vovka Levka
            With this development, China has little space, it needs resources and they are doomed to expand.

            India's population density is higher until it attacks anyone

            Yes, but look at what lands in China and India. Not density matter.
      4. Kyrgyz
        Kyrgyz 13 September 2013 19: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: MrFYGY
        This is a betrayal.

        Believe? I would say this is a rather risky business from China, BP not so long ago had 50% of TNCs and parted with them because it could not decide anything in Russian realities, where the concept of property is very conditional and vague, but simply does not work in subsoil use, hence low ratings and business of Russia. Is this good or bad? probably bad, Russians don’t want to invest there because they know that this is a grandmother’s divorce, the Chinese probably believe in something)))
        1. 31231
          31231 13 September 2013 21: 15 New
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          BP just knew what Russian monopolism is. She received mediocre deposits from TNCs, all state oil pipelines in the country are owned by Transneft, the local market has low prices. As a result, merged.
          The Chinese are a little different, they have the main gesheft in a possible reduction in the price of hydrocarbons supplied from Russia. Here they have more chances to gain a foothold, because they did not come as BP compradors, but as consumers.
          1. not good
            not good 14 September 2013 12: 32 New
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            So buying a little, building, bringing its specialists, China leads a creeping expansion (no one remembers the term "soft power" from where?), Then clings like a tick and you can't pull it away, and behind the backs of Chinese businessmen there is the state and the army. finance is finance, and the ownership of the subsoil should be only Russian.
      5. Alibekulu
        Alibekulu 14 September 2013 14: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: MrFYGY
        This is a betrayal.
        Everything is much more prosaic.
        Most likely, China made a condition that it was ready to buy Russian gas in large volumes, but for this it was necessary to sell the shares of the Yamal LNG project ...
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  3. left-wing
    left-wing 13 September 2013 07: 46 New
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    I don’t think they will give it to the Chinese
  4. a52333
    a52333 13 September 2013 08: 09 New
    +5
    In light of recent events, change gas fields for "low-quality green toilet paper" ??? The Chinese are doing their best to get rid of it, but we have a big trash can?
  5. Enjoy
    Enjoy 13 September 2013 09: 08 New
    +1
    Guys, when France or Great Britain buys a stake in a joint venture, few people worry and protest. When Japan participates, everyone is happy, because it is a synonym for high technology, the image of the Japanese is this, despite the file with Fukushima. But once the Chinese come to their place, the stereotype comes into force that they want to capture everything and many are worried ...

    About Gazprom's budget - look how much of it is milked to support only pretentious sports teams in football, hockey, volleyball, etc., "mass sports" (we recently had a sports day under his command, a free Bi-2 concert, fireworks at night, luxurious surroundings) etc. It will not work for him to immediately give 1/15 of the turnover, not even profit, namely, the turnover somewhere else.

    Quote: Orel
    The more Chinese investment there is in Russia, the less likely it is that there will ever be a military conflict between us. I am far from thinking that China is ready to destroy the billions of dollars invested in Russia overnight through military aggression. So you should not be afraid of Chinese money. I don’t think it will hurt us ...

    +1 Do not be afraid of them within reasonable limits. A joint venture of 60% of ours, 20% of the French and 20% of the Chinese in the field, which we did not pull out to develop independently, is, in my opinion, good news. That's when under the drunk on Sakhalin, the Americans completely gave the deposits for pennies, that was the bottom ...

    PS I will not put the negative article out of respect for the regular author, but I disagree with the idea. Too superficially the situation is considered.
    1. a52333
      a52333 14 September 2013 21: 52 New
      0
      When Japan participates, everyone is happy, because it is a synonym for high technology, the image of the Japanese is this, despite the file with Fukushima.
      That, all, geese caked. Technology was intercepted from them. Outsourcing enterprises brought. External debt 215%. Corpse. This is what we think out of habit. But in fact they have seams.
  6. lotar
    lotar 13 September 2013 09: 11 New
    +1
    Investments are different. Look at this confirmation in the next article. http://topwar.ru/27919-sem-mifov-ob-inostrannyh-investiciyah-ili-zagranica-nam-p
    omozhet.html
    We need to look to whom this state of affairs is advantageous in our government, all the more so as it can potentially cause certain harm to our state.
  7. Bob
    Bob 13 September 2013 09: 54 New
    +6
    "It is much more profitable for China to invest in our raw materials, so that later we can use these raw materials to sell our products, develop our own economies and open new jobs for our fellow citizens."
    "Golden words" about the future of Russians, or that the future is so mediocrely sold for the purpose of momentary profit. Profit by all means, even by selling the Motherland! This is the slogan of the Russian reformers who received education and consultations in the United States. The same slogan is used in the reform of education in the Russian Federation - profit from each student, kindergartener, student, graduate student, teacher, teacher, professor and associate professor. Only in the end we get mediocre students and teachers, and judging by this article, we will also receive real slavery from the Chinese conquerors, who, as it turns out, will own the subsoil, and the same Chinese workers hired to develop these subsoil will declare the rights to these subsoil.
  8. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 13 September 2013 11: 16 New
    +2
    Support for Syria is believed to be free.
    When you go to visit the neighbors whom you want to thank for something, do you bring a cake with you?
    1. Bob
      Bob 13 September 2013 11: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: chunga-changa
      Support for Syria is believed to be free.

      I don’t hope for free. However, both parties can win from such cooperation. Ultimately, it's better to win together than to lose one at a time.
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 13 September 2013 12: 09 New
        0
        Well, they win their part of the collaboration, the one that interests them.
  9. erased
    erased 13 September 2013 11: 26 New
    +9
    China is clearly and consistently leading its line. He needs resources, fertile land, energy. So he gets them.
    And what is the policy of the Russian government towards China? In addition to the territories transferred to China (albeit small ones), they turn a blind eye to illegal migration from China, to the acquisition of Russian citizenship by the Chinese, to the actual occupation of the Far East by "peaceful workers and entrepreneurs." At this rate, China will climb into the Arctic, and then will demand guarantees of maintaining its strategic economic interests. In common parlance, this is the introduction of troops.
    Regarding the historical relations between the countries, China has been stealing military technologies from Russia (USSR) for half a century. True, not only in Russia, but that doesn't make it any easier. As early as 1980, Chinese advisers trained the Afghan mujahideen, helped them with weapons and money. Against who? True, against the USSR army. The Far East, Siberia, the Urals are inundated with Chinese intelligence officers ("peaceful workers").
    The fact that China is temporarily considered a partner should not deceive anyone. This is the partner whom he wants to be in charge. And he will achieve his goal in any way.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 15 September 2013 17: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: erased
      Already in 1980, Chinese advisers trained Afghan Mujahideen and helped them with weapons and money.

      Few people remember about this, for some reason it is accepted that the United States helped the mujahideen, although their role is not great, compared with China, it’s generally miserable ...
  10. 31231
    31231 13 September 2013 11: 49 New
    0
    The author sees far from this topic. Firstly, the South Tambeyskoye field. Secondly, Gazprom’s 150 turnover is neither profit nor investment, and this should not be confused. Chayanda and Tambey are very weak projects. Gazprom has more tasty projects where, with less investment, more profit. As an example, the second string is planned from Sakhalin to China and Korea.
    LNG on Tambey ?! Well Michelson knows better. He was going to throw a pipe to Yamburg through the Gulf of Ob also to Bovanenkovo. In general, Novotech is a serious office. God grant her good luck. Although LNG on Tambey I consider stupidity. At Shtokman, the LNG project was shut down due to expensive costs and obscure consumers. But since the Chinese have signed gas from the Arctic Ocean to drag themselves to them, we will see.
    In general, a stone in the garden of Gazprom about the Chinese investments is stupid. Most countries have major hydrocarbon producers with foreign capital.
  11. SAM0SA
    SAM0SA 13 September 2013 11: 59 New
    0
    Meanwhile, in Syria ...
  12. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 13 September 2013 12: 01 New
    +3
    I just want to say: "And x ... a dog’s tail along the impudent Han Han, not gas fields in Siberia!"...
    For just one thought, the Chinese should hand over Siberian deposits to the wall without trial. And I think that in the corridors of the supreme power of such applicants, a dozen and a half will definitely be typed ...
  13. vitek1233
    vitek1233 13 September 2013 13: 59 New
    +1
    Article + would be good at the top to think hard before doing such things
  14. Papania
    Papania 13 September 2013 14: 13 New
    +1
    “Novatek” and “Gazprom” deal with, so to speak, a specific product - natural resources, which, as quoted in the Constitution (Article 9, Clause 1), “are used and protected in the Russian Federation as the basis for the life and work of peoples living on relevant territory. ” They (Novatek and Gazprom) seem to produce no pots or chewing gum in order to decide so simply which foreign company to sell shares of the country's strategically important objects - hydrocarbon deposits ... Therefore, the constitutional thesis itself ... is protected in the Russian Federation as basis of life ... "has already lost relevance? Who is guarded, from whom is guarded? Unless, chop of oil and gas companies from us ...


    Yes, everything will be as always, the Chinese will grease whoever they need and they will be "good." And we only have social advertising from these companies on TV, but old people that live without gas in the villages.
  15. pensioner
    pensioner 13 September 2013 14: 36 New
    +4
    Quote: Papania
    It is much more profitable for them to invest in our raw materials, so that later we, using these raw materials, will sell our products

    A simple example: gas flowing through pipes has a price ... $ per cubic meter. And how much gas is there in Chinese lighters and cans?
  16. Severok
    Severok 15 September 2013 22: 59 New
    +1
    It is interesting when the government will begin to defend the interests of Russia and its population !?
  17. Shtv
    Shtv 17 September 2013 10: 31 New
    -1
    people and that everyone can write nonsense ??? or the author shit overeaten ???

    and it’s also a desire to write that everything in the world is PET and Scare !!!

    china buys stocks yeah china it does it on purpose and TOTAL AND STATOIL buy a stake in Rosneft's project for charitable purposes ???

    the author FROM SHIT DOES NOT MUTT ??????????????????