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Comrade Putin wrote in the New York Times

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September 11 under the heading "Opinion" of the newspaper "New York Times" Appeal to the American people ... no, not Barack Obama, not John Kerry, not James Clapper, or even Mikhail Gorbachev. The President of Russia addressed the Americans in the pages of one of their most popular newspapers. Vladimir Putin believes that Russian and American society is not communicating enough, and therefore he set out to clarify, through an influential newspaper, Russia's position on the Syrian issue in particular on issues of war and peace in general.


The president began with a reminder to the Americans that there was a cold war, but there was also joint opposition to the Nazis. It was established by the UN and it was established that decisions on issues of war and peace should be made only on the basis of consensus, as well as with the consent of the permanent members of the Security Council having veto power. In the future, this became the basis for the stability of international relations for decades.

Nobody wants, writes V. Putin further, that the United Nations befall the fate of the League of Nations. But such an outcome is possible - in the event that powerful countries bypass the United Nations and start military actions without the sanction of the Security Council.

A strike on Syria, according to the Russian president, will lead to innocent victims, the spread of the conflict beyond Syria, an increase in violence and a new wave of terrorism. The whole system of international law is staggering.

According to Putin, in accordance with applicable international law, the use of force is allowed only for self-defense or by decision of the UN Security Council. Everything else is unacceptable in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations and, in essence, is an act of aggression. Therefore, the president writes, it is disturbing that for the United States it has become commonplace for military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries.

As for some strategic long-term interests of America in Syria, the Russian president expressed doubt about this. Millions of people around the world, he notes in the article, are increasingly seeing in the United States not a model of democracy, but a state that implements the principle of brute force under the slogan: "Either you are with us or against us."

But only that power turned out to be ineffective and meaningless. Examples of that V. Putin sees in Afghanistan and Iraq. The conclusion that the president makes: should “stop using the language of force and return to the path of a civilized politico-diplomatic settlement”.

As for Syria, it is now possible to avoid hostilities:

“The United States, Russia and all members of the international community should take advantage of the Syrian government’s willingness to place its chemical arsenals under international control for subsequent destruction. Judging by the statements of President Obama, the United States sees this as an alternative to military action. ”


The President continues:

“If we can avoid the use of force against Syria, it will improve the atmosphere in the field of international relations and strengthen mutual trust. This will be our common success and will open the doors for cooperation on other important issues. ”


Comrade Putin further points out that he “carefully studied” the appeal made by the American president to the nation on Tuesday. Vladimir Putin disagreed with some accents placed by Obama:

“It is very dangerous to encourage people to consider themselves exceptional, regardless of motivation. There are big countries and small, rich and poor, with long-standing democratic traditions and only looking for their own way to democracy. Their policies are different. We are all different, but when we ask the Lord for blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal. ”


Below are a few characteristic comments on Putin’s address to the New York Times.

Virgil Antonov, Lancaster:
"An exceptional, modest and intelligent call for peace with Syria, received from the president of one of the most powerful military powers to the president of another."


Dan, Toronto:
“I think Putin has found the right argument. And I agree with his condemnation of the concept of "American exclusivity."
And now let's see what answer Obama will print and post on the Internet in the national Russian media. That's when the world can truly see the "civilized political and diplomatic settlement" in action. "


Mile C., Dallas:
“Although I do not agree with many Russian politicians, I welcome Putin’s call for caution. “Limited Military Strike” - a euphemism for war, which should be the last resort ... ”


Brett E., Denver:
"It is very dangerous to encourage people to consider themselves exceptional, regardless of motivation." - This is the best that communism has to offer the world.
Mr. Putin, you can find everything you need to know about American exceptionalism by studying the presidency of Ronald Reagan. ”


Don Malloni, San Francisco:
“That which is so well founded is not necessarily sincere - that is the question. It may well be that the goal of Putin’s publication is to maximize Russia's current influence. Another goal is to apply the maximum possible pressure on our political class. We must take into account the tricks with which Russia will maintain a strategic advantage. The United States has made many mistakes, being the only superpower in the world, but can you imagine Russia in this role? ”


Alvin J. Martinez, San Juan:
“By continuing his confrontational policy, Mr. Obama recalls his belligerent predecessor and loses a high moral foundation in international relations compared to other leaders of the world community. Putin has become the voice of reason on the world stage, and he is supported by many influential people. If Mr. Obama continues to rely on military power, thereby imposing American decisions on others, I am afraid he will lose even more prestige and destroy the reputation of the United States that they once had in the world. He passes the baton of world leadership to Mr. Putin. Think America. ”


Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. Refund_SSSR
    Refund_SSSR 13 September 2013 07: 08 New
    97
    Just what I said in the comments to the previous article.
    They agree with Putin and Russia. Let them not understand, they hate, but agree, and therefore the face of the country is changing, in the eyes of the West.
    And this is without the use of force, mind you ... I would like to believe that Putin has found an approach to the West and will now play on it.

    In an interesting time we live comrades.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 13 September 2013 07: 17 New
      64
      The KGB knew how to play in the political arena and knew how to learn to play. Putin is a worthy successor to his studies, a successor to Russian politics.
      1. Ivan Pavlov
        Ivan Pavlov 13 September 2013 08: 59 New
        -33
        да во времена СССР над такой политической "победой" просто посмеялись бы
        1. M. Peter
          M. Peter 14 September 2013 11: 07 New
          +8
          Цитата: Иван Павлов
          да во времена СССР над такой политической "победой" просто посмеялись бы

          А как вам деяния хрущева, который во время карибского кризиса пошёл на контакт с президентом США? Вам как важно, что бы мы(Россия) далбанула ядерной дубиной по супастату, ради не весть чего и какого то там имиджа "великой" державы, неумеющий ни с кем договариваться и всё равно спалить всех и вся и не только Сирию и Асада...
          The RF Ministry of Foreign Affairs is just the worthy heir to the USSR Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Putin and Lavrov deserve praise.
          1. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 14 September 2013 13: 13 New
            +3
            Quote: M.Pyotr
            А как вам деяния хрущева, который во время карибского кризиса пошёл на контакт с президентом США? Вам как важно, что бы мы(Россия) далбанула ядерной дубиной по супастату, ради не весть чего и какого то там имиджа "великой" державы, неумеющий ни с кем договариваться и всё равно спалить всех и вся и не только Сирию и Асада...МИД РФ как раз таки достойнный наследник МИД СССР. Путин и Лавров достойны похвалы.

            I agree with you.
            Янкесы, по скудоумию и невежеству их "политической элиты", норовят решать все мировые и личные проблемы открытой конфронтацией и силой.
            And what do they have from this? They themselves were so intimidated that their generals jump out of the windows with yells:
            - Russians are coming!
            Try to throw our general out the window. At least as much as: - Do the Yankees go? - in response you will hear only - And x ... with them, let them go.
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 13 September 2013 09: 28 New
        +8
        Quote: .....
        Comrade Putin


        But why comrade?

        More precisely, he must be called a former comrade; he left the Communist Party, and on August 20, 1991, during a speech by A. A. Sobchak against the GKChP, Putin wrote a report on his dismissal from the KGB

        although probably someone and a friend ....
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 13 September 2013 12: 18 New
          12
          Quote: Vadivak
          But why comrade?

          How else to turn to the Supreme Commander?
          1. Mouse
            Mouse 15 September 2013 15: 24 New
            -3
            Mr. President
        2. Russkiy_Prapor
          Russkiy_Prapor 13 September 2013 12: 25 New
          16
          There are no former Chekists. And the exit from the Communist Party and the dismissal from the KGB are just cover events. There is such a thing: Legend of cover. So Putin was and remains the Comrade.
          1. dropout
            dropout 13 September 2013 12: 51 New
            15
            If they say that the Chekist is dead, you don’t believe. He left on a mission!
            I remember such a song from childhood.
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 13 September 2013 17: 22 New
            +4
            Quote: Russkiy_Prapor
            There are no former Chekists.


            This is about retirees. If on your own it still happens, even at meetings of veterans are not called
          3. The comment was deleted.
          4. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 14 September 2013 13: 46 New
            +2
            Quote: Russkiy_Prapor
            There are no former Chekists. And the exit from the Communist Party and the dismissal from the KGB are just cover events. There is such a thing: Legend of cover. So Putin was and remains the Comrade.

            These are just common cliches.
            The KGB was abolished on December 3 of 1991, and all its employees were fired, so Putin would have dropped out of the KGB even without a report, automatically.
            The activities of the CPSU were terminated on November 6 of the 1991 of the year, also by the decree of Beni Reltsyn, so Putin did not need to leave the Communist Party.
            As for any normal person born in the USSR, Putin’s comrade’s appeal is acceptable more than a gentleman or something just as rotten.
          5. Uhe
            Uhe 16 September 2013 00: 44 New
            0
            Some strange legend: to destroy a country by creating a bunch of independent de facto republics, destroy its assets, sell off its liabilities, inflict a terrible blow on the main titular nation, destroy the entire social system, reduce society to the level of bestial, give real power to the hands of several Caucasian families of mountain Jews ... Yes, even manage to go under the article for dubious commercial operations for many years;) A strange legend. When will it finally end? ;)
        3. Nitup
          Nitup 13 September 2013 12: 59 New
          0
          Quote: Vadivak
          he left the Communist Party

          According to him, he did not leave, and the party ceased to exist.
          1. the polar
            the polar 13 September 2013 14: 30 New
            +6
            Quote: Nitup
            Quote: Vadivak
            he left the Communist Party

            According to him, he did not leave, and the party ceased to exist.

            According to him, it turns out that he did not leave her, but she left him. You cannot be a communist and build capitalism. So she came out of it.
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 13 September 2013 20: 29 New
            +3
            Quote: Nitup
            According to him, he did not leave, and the party ceased to exist.

            Amazing Usually you are minus. Now think about where those who have not left the party have gone. It’s just that the Communist Party remained and those who left became edros ldperyami and other Socialist Revolutionaries.

            About myself. I am not a communist, my party is the Orthodox Church.
        4. Icestar777
          Icestar777 13 September 2013 21: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: Vadivak
          But why comrade?


          Do you want them to call the LORD the LORD? lol
          I also want this in general wink
        5. elvira
          elvira 16 September 2013 10: 04 New
          0
          Quote: Vadivak
          although probably someone and a friend ....


          ..to someone the master, to someone the master ... In short, the master-master, as we want, we call it ...
      3. Natalia
        Natalia 13 September 2013 09: 38 New
        12
        Nobody wants, writes V. Putin further, that the United Nations befall the fate of the League of Nations. But such an outcome is possible - in the event that powerful countries bypass the United Nations and start military actions without the sanction of the Security Council.

        Here, it seems to me, Putin expressed our common thought with you that the UN is a wedding organization that does not solve anything ... everything is correct, as they say: if you all gentlemen do not want to abide by your own rules, then why get together constantly so that then do each in their own way.

        В этом смысле новый совбез аля-ООН мог бы быть собран вокруг стран БРИКС, ну и прежде всего тех стран которые согласны соблюдать международные правила и нормы. А страны которые считают себя исключительными, или особо сильно демократичными, таких надо отсекать и не принимать в новый "ООН".
      4. Bort radist
        Bort radist 13 September 2013 10: 37 New
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        Quote: Igor39
        The KGB knew how to play in the political arena

        Long before the KGB "ни одна пушка ни могла выстрелить в Европе без разрешения России". I mean that the KGB and the CPSU were the successors of the best political traditions. Not from scratch, so to speak.
      5. GSH-18
        GSH-18 18 September 2013 13: 00 New
        0
        Quote: Igor39
        The KGB knew how to play in the political arena and knew how to play

        The KGB is only a school. A real political presidency, with the country rising from its knees and taking it to the world political level, is an indicator of skill and professionalism! Recent world events speak for themselves - the right president in Russia. You can be proud of it.
    2. Civil
      Civil 13 September 2013 07: 17 New
      +9
      I read the article yesterday and kamenty too, Putin wrote a very cautious article, since he signed up for it.
      1. S-200
        S-200 13 September 2013 09: 25 New
        36
        Yak celebrated But father ... Putin is a delicate person (if you do not anger him wink )
        Therefore, he very delicately set out his position (for Russia) from the point of view of the foundations of international law and the perception of US forceful foreign policy in the projection of their violations ...
        Without teaching anyone HOW to live in your own country ...
        - only warning against Great Statist chauvinism.
        A clearly calibrated and neatly accented article for an American middle class audience.
        Another + To Putin!
        1. pri3rak
          pri3rak 13 September 2013 13: 58 New
          +7
          I would add that I started playing on, in a foreign field, using the main weapons of the press, imposing the rules of the game
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 13 September 2013 10: 26 New
        23
        Quote: Civil
        ... Putin wrote a very cautious article, since he subscribed to it.


        Exactly.
        Not a single double interpretation, with the finale of equality before God.
      3. Corsair
        Corsair 13 September 2013 12: 21 New
        +6
        Quote: Civil
        I read the article yesterday and kamenty too, Putin wrote a very cautious article, since he signed up for it.

        Yes, it is polite, courteous and delicate. But it is also competent and effective.
    3. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 13 September 2013 07: 18 New
      13
      Comrade Putin wrote in the New York Times

      And everything was correctly written in principle, although I am categorically not a supporter of Putin and the current government.
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 13 September 2013 07: 23 New
      62
      There are sane ones, but there are also our old friends and after reading the article they wink
      Senator Robert Menendez (a New Jersey Democrat) told CNN that after reading the article, he “practically vomited”.
      We need another article, so that he would vomit the whole lol
      Senator John McCain (Arizona Republican), often critical of Putin, said in a statement on the microblogging network that the Russian president’s column was “an insult to the intelligence of every American.”
      Oh yes, John, oh yes, about the account of the mind. I won’t repeat myself, Zadornov said everything earlierwassat news.mail.ru/politics/14744288/
      1. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 13 September 2013 07: 26 New
        +9
        I thought what gay Nazism looks like ... now I know ... phew, damn it ... wassat am wassat
      2. Refund_SSSR
        Refund_SSSR 13 September 2013 07: 27 New
        40
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        "An insult to the mental abilities of every American."

        But he is right!
        Путин обратился к Американцам как к здравомыслящим, как к равным, а МакКейн по сути сказал "Как этот "тиран" мог даже подумать о наших тупых гражданах так?"
        They cultivate them from the cradle by not being able to think broadly and analyzing. Afraid that the citizens of America will see hi

        America - Emerald City laughing Which is emerald only if you look through the green glasses))))
        1. Old bear
          Old bear 13 September 2013 07: 37 New
          25
          Greetings to all members of the forum !!! Here is another addition to the topic-
          "Сенатор Роберт Менендез (демократ от штата Нью-Джерси) сообщил CNN, что после прочтения статьи его «практически вырвало».

          Белый дом заявил, что Путин «изолирован и одинок» в своем мнении о том, что в атаке виноваты повстанцы."
          There is a strange feeling about the hidden grave ailments of the ruling America’s elite. As they say, everything is from sick nerves and manic rejection of the reality of the surrounding realities in the world. More like these articles can the whole senate go there for them to vomit lol
          1. drewlanin
            drewlanin 13 September 2013 11: 50 New
            +7
            I think that it is necessary to write such a continuation of the article from reading which they have not just vomiting but the worst diarrhea will begin !!!
          2. tor11121
            tor11121 13 September 2013 12: 08 New
            +8
            the feeling is persistent. The other day Obama loudly declared, "We say they are a super power!" I immediately remembered a super nation, a super human. somewhere it was already ... I thought. the whole president of a big country. what is it? Did the memory disappear completely? inadequate? or accepts what? sensation of loss of space and time.
            1. pri3rak
              pri3rak 13 September 2013 14: 06 New
              +4
              Quote: tor11121
              Obama loudly declared, "We say they are a super power!"

              Х


              That nihto does not mind)) only now the superpower has an opponent who can say (and not only say) it is impossible, oh I yay!
            2. Sandov
              Sandov 13 September 2013 17: 13 New
              +2
              Obama followed in the footsteps of Shilkgruber. Also was a super duper.
              1. tor11121
                tor11121 13 September 2013 18: 10 New
                +1
                so the path is one, knurled. to begin to declare to everyone in its eccentricity and its superiority over others .... and we went. there help the Francoists in Spain. and Czechoslovakia. here is afghan help alkaide in serbia.
                1. tor11121
                  tor11121 13 September 2013 18: 37 New
                  +1
                  I apologize to Syria. and the goal is one. world domination. that's just Russia to them like a bone in the throat.
            3. Muadipus
              Muadipus 18 September 2013 11: 26 New
              +1
              If it were Mrs. Merkel who spoke about the exclusivity of the nation .....))) here would be a completely different reaction from the world .... the same words but by a different nation .. So, Putin is handsome- I'm proud that we have such a president.
          3. tomas.09
            tomas.09 14 September 2013 11: 48 New
            +1
            This fast food senator gluttoned himself. Here it bears. Yes, and probably reading an article sitting in a latrine !!!
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 13 September 2013 08: 41 New
          15
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          Putin addressed the Americans as sane, as equals

          Well, he definitely didn’t turn to McKein in this article laughing
          1. 31231
            31231 13 September 2013 09: 14 New
            +7
            McCain only speaks with God, and his mortal body constantly moves his inner voice.
            1. Geisenberg
              Geisenberg 13 September 2013 09: 45 New
              +7
              Quote: 31231
              McCain only speaks with God, and his mortal body constantly moves his inner voice.


              Mackain with god? Come on :) after mushrooms only communicate with perfumes laughing
              1. Muadipus
                Muadipus 18 September 2013 11: 28 New
                0
                after mushrooms, all spirits seem to be gods. laughing
            2. builder
              builder 13 September 2013 12: 39 New
              12
              If a person speaks with heaven it is a prayer, if heaven speaks with a person it is psychiatry
              1. Bort radist
                Bort radist 16 September 2013 08: 37 New
                +2
                Quote: stroitel
                If a person speaks with heaven it is a prayer, if heaven speaks with a person it is psychiatry

                Извиняюсь в оригинале так - "Когда человек разговаривает с Богом, это молитва, а когда - Бог разговаривает с человеком, это шизофрения."
                1. builder
                  builder 16 September 2013 21: 06 New
                  0
                  Quote: Geisenberg
                  Quote: 31231
                  McCain only speaks with God, and his mortal body constantly moves his inner voice.


                  Mackain with god? Come on :) after mushrooms only communicate with perfumes laughing

                  The comrade answered why not with God.
          2. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 13 September 2013 10: 31 New
            13
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well, he definitely didn’t turn to McKein in this article


            По крайней мере, отклики на статью - "лакмусовая бумажка" о псхическом состоянии каждого отвечающего. И к доктору не ходи... laughing
          3. GSH-18
            GSH-18 18 September 2013 13: 23 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well, he definitely didn’t turn to McKein in this article

            And can McCain be called sane ?? belay Just a couple of kilograms of toll in an anti-aircraft missile was not enough to rid the world of the senile ..
        3. Bekzat
          Bekzat 13 September 2013 11: 30 New
          +5
          Greetings to all, for Sergey, as you correctly noticed about McCain, your idea should be translated into English and dropped on foreign sites, + Dear.
        4. krpmlws
          krpmlws 13 September 2013 13: 15 New
          11
          Come on you blame the amers, look in the mirror, our people also hawt everything that they are presented with. Thinking broadly and impartially to analyze is the prerogative of a few, alas.
          1. alone
            alone 13 September 2013 20: 25 New
            +4
            Quote: krpmlws
            , look in the mirror, our people also hawt everything that is presented to him


            but this is the most difficult one. It’s easier to sink the AUG and build a kirdyk to the world than to admit it))
          2. aleshka
            aleshka 13 September 2013 20: 56 New
            +3
            если у кого мозга нет,тот "схавает"
        5. skeptic
          skeptic 13 September 2013 14: 10 New
          +2
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          America - Emerald city laughing Which emerald only if you look through the green glasses))))


          Through the veil of green bucks.
      3. Tersky
        Tersky 13 September 2013 08: 14 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        the Russian president’s column was “an insult to the mental abilities of every American.”

        Quite expected from Mack laughing , как у нас говорят- "У кого что болит, тот за то и говорит". Что болит у сенатора давно известно wassat , удивляет лишь то что в его "дыне" есть чему болеть.. laughing .
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 18 September 2013 13: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Tersky
          удивляет лишь то что в его "дыне" есть чему болеть.. laughing

          Bull's-eye! laughing + + + + +
      4. rereture
        rereture 13 September 2013 08: 24 New
        14
        Of course an insult to the mind, since not every American knows about the UN, and even more so about the League of Nations.
      5. elvira
        elvira 13 September 2013 08: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I need another article, so that he would get rid of the whole lol

        Ahahaha, how ruthless you are!
      6. Bort radist
        Bort radist 13 September 2013 10: 41 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Senator Robert Menendez (a New Jersey Democrat) told CNN that after reading the article, he “practically vomited”.
        We need another article, so that he

        Now we need to write an article without any shyness in the expressions, so that it’s obos_r_sya.
      7. Corsair
        Corsair 13 September 2013 13: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Senator Robert Menendez (a New Jersey Democrat) told CNN that after reading the article, he “practically vomited”.


        And they shrink and shrink ...
    5. a52333
      a52333 13 September 2013 07: 24 New
      11
      I'll try to hang out (never succeeds) a cat against an ermine roller. The current situation reminds me of Babama-black cat, GDP-fast ermine. The ermine changes its place of attack so quickly that the cat does not keep up with him. Now I’ll try: [media = http: // http: //video.yandex.ru/search? Clid = 1955454 & text = cat% 20pro
      tiv% 20 ermine & filmId = BXk-hwKGXCI & id =] Well, as usual. am
      1. Bigriver
        Bigriver 13 September 2013 07: 54 New
        29
        Quote: a52333
        I'll try to hang out (it never works) video Cat vs Ermine. The current situation reminds me of Babama-black cat, GDP-fast ermine ...

        Good comparisonrepeat
        As soon as GDP became President in 2000, I immediately noticed how quickly and smartly he responds to operational issues in a conversation. Well-filled and well-arranged head.
        And, literally before our eyes, he became the first politician in the world from a talented politician of Russia.
        Nice fucking for Russia.
        1. eplewke
          eplewke 13 September 2013 09: 06 New
          13
          Да, Путин сейчас как никогда имеет вес в геополитике. Одна только фамилия, у заокеанских "коллег" вызывает мысли - "Почему я не как он???"...
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 13 September 2013 10: 24 New
          12
          Quote: BigRiver
          Nice fucking for Russia.


          Me too, speaks beautifully
          The Ministry of Economic Development calculated: Ten percent of the income we spend on paying for utility bills. This is more than the Finns pay, whose climate is similar to ours

          Specialists of the Ministry of Economic Development of Russia compared how Russians and Europeans pay for the communal apartment. And it turned out that in terms of utility costs we overtook many countries in Europe.

          If the Russian family spent 10% of consumer spending last year on paying for "communal", then the average European paid only 8% for gas, heating, water, etc. It is clear that residents do not have to spend much on communal Spain and Cyprus - in these countries in many houses there is not even central heating.

          But in terms of spending, Russia overtook even northern Sweden and Finland.

          By the way, such a large expenditure of Russians on housing and communal services is mainly paid by heating - it takes 34% of all payments, housing services - 19%, hot water (14%) and gas (13%).

          In general, the situation is outrageous. After all, both gas and oil are much more expensive for Europe than for us.

          Why, then, do Europeans spend less on a "communal apartment"? - When we talk about all Europeans, we must not forget that we give "average data for the hospital."


          and even shitty solarium with gasoline at a dollar per liter more expensive than in the United States and electricity there, and so all hurt
          1. 11 black
            11 black 13 September 2013 11: 11 New
            +8
            Quote: Vadivak
            Specialists of the Ministry of Economic Development of Russia compared how Russians and Europeans pay for the communal apartment. And it turned out that in terms of utility costs we overtook many countries in Europe.

            If the Russian family spent 10% of consumer spending last year on paying for "communal", then the average European paid only 8% for gas, heating, water, etc. It is clear that residents do not have to spend much on communal Spain and Cyprus - in these countries in many houses there is not even central heating.

            But in terms of spending, Russia overtook even northern Sweden and Finland.

            By the way, such a large expenditure of Russians on housing and communal services is mainly paid by heating - it takes 34% of all payments, housing services - 19%, hot water (14%) and gas (13%).

            In general, the situation is outrageous. After all, both gas and oil are much more expensive for Europe than for us.

            Why, then, do Europeans spend less on a "communal apartment"? - When we talk about all Europeans, we must not forget that we give "average data for the hospital."


            and even shitty solarium with gasoline at a dollar per liter more expensive than in the United States and electricity there, and so all hurt


            This is of course regrettable, but first of all, what does this have to do with the article ??? and secondly, the news is really beautiful and inspiring pride, we are gradually recovering strength in the international arena.

            PS Vadivak, here I am amazed, you even managed to lay a mine here and it’s completely not relevant to the topic, it’s strange that Smirnova is not yet visible laughing
            1. shpuntik
              shpuntik 13 September 2013 14: 41 New
              +7
              Major General
              11black RU Today, 11:11 ↑ The new one is certainly regrettable, but first of all, what does this have to do with the article ??? and secondly, the news is really beautiful and inspiring pride, we are gradually recovering strength in the international arena.

              Вадим прав, к сожалению. Отношение к статье прямое-Путин. Одно дело вещать на международной трибуне, другое дело-в стране порядок иметь. Хрущёв то же вещал, стучал ботинком и миллиарды раздавал соцлагерю. Результат виден или нет? Мне гордость "без штанов" не нужна, смотрите на цены и зарплату.

              1. yur
                yur 13 September 2013 21: 07 New
                +4
                And I, dear, always need pride, although I am not an oligarch, but a pensioner from that great country of the USSR.
            2. Vadivak
              Vadivak 13 September 2013 17: 27 New
              +6
              Quote: 11 black
              it is strange that Smirnova is not yet visible


              Yes, when you hear great news, sometimes look back at the harsh reality, taxes are rising, you nearly steal your defense, and great news at every turn
          2. Yon_Silent
            Yon_Silent 13 September 2013 12: 28 New
            +1
            In Kiev, uncle, in the garden - elderberry. This is completely out of place
          3. Bigriver
            Bigriver 13 September 2013 12: 42 New
            +9
            Quote: Vadivak
            ... Ten percent of the income we spend on paying for utility bills. This is more than the Finns pay, whose climate is similar to ours
            ... it turned out that in terms of utility costs we overtook many European countries.
            But in terms of spending, Russia overtook even northern Sweden and Finland.
            In general, the situation is outrageous. After all, both gas and oil for Europe are much more expensive than for us .///

            Not for disputes, but remarks For smile
            We can unleash the dispute elsewhere wink
            Of the 83-x subjects of the Russian Federation - only less than a dozen are donors, for various reasons.
            Kemerovo coal, when it falls on the Far East, grows in price by 2,5 times.
            In Sweden, Finland, ets so dear to you, are there such transfer distances?
            It often refers to the cost of importing electricity into China. Allegedly, we sell cheaper than in Russia laughing
            So you personally, aware that in Russia there are 7 OES, in which the WHOLESALE price of electricity is different everywhere? And why is it different?
            In short, think how to make a better love
            And so, no words, I agree! The situation is outrageous !!!
            How can it be? All of Europe is the size of one and a half Yakutia.
            It is necessary to ensure that subsidized regions receive the necessary resources not through the territory of the Russian Federation, but through space.
            Then happiness will come, probably.
            Ну, или, "верните ВСЕ в зад. А мы (власть) будем заниматься логистикой и планированием. belay

            PS I do not work in power structures.
            hi
            1. the polar
              the polar 13 September 2013 14: 38 New
              +3
              Quote: BigRiver

              Of the 83-x subjects of the Russian Federation - only less than a dozen are donors, for various reasons.
              Kemerovo coal, when it falls on the Far East, grows in price by 2,5 times.
              In Sweden, Finland, ets so dear to you, are there such transfer distances?
              It often refers to the cost of importing electricity into China. Allegedly, we sell cheaper than in Russia laughing
              So you personally, aware that in Russia there are 7 OES, in which the WHOLESALE price of electricity is different everywhere? And why is it different?
              In short, think how to make a better love

              My friend, at your leisure, think about the fact that in the USSR the distances were even greater than in today's Russia, and you paid 2% for housing and communal services and 20 cop for gasoline.
              Why such difference?
              In short, think how to make a better
              1. Bigriver
                Bigriver 13 September 2013 14: 48 New
                +3
                Quote: Polar

                My friend, at your leisure, think about the fact that in the USSR the distances were even greater than in today's Russia, and you paid 2% for housing and communal services and 20 cop for gasoline.
                Why such difference?
                In short, think how to make a better

                Слово "дружок", в первых строках Вашего сообщения, похоже на капитуляцию.
                I accept her! Solely out of sympathy in you!
                For details ...
                Do you want EVERYTHING in the ass, i.e., as in the USSR?
                And what can you offer? Expropriation-nationalization? And you, of course, missed the revolver?
                Думать не предлагаю. Похоже для Вас это как "в сад" laughing
                Speak as your set of cliches and slogans dictates in your head.
                1. the polar
                  the polar 13 September 2013 17: 23 New
                  +2
                  Quote: BigRiver
                  Quote: Polar

                  My friend, at your leisure, think about the fact that in the USSR the distances were even greater than in today's Russia, and you paid 2% for housing and communal services and 20 cop for gasoline.
                  Why such difference?
                  In short, think how to make a better

                  Слово "дружок", в первых строках Вашего сообщения, похоже на капитуляцию.
                  I accept her! Solely out of sympathy in you!
                  For details ...
                  Do you want EVERYTHING in the ass, i.e., as in the USSR?
                  And what can you offer? Expropriation-nationalization? And you, of course, missed the revolver?
                  Думать не предлагаю. Похоже для Вас это как "в сад" laughing
                  Speak as your set of cliches and slogans dictates in your head.

                  My friend, it’s like stamps are pouring out of you like from a holey bag. It’s you who, apart from the stamps, can’t say anything, not what to offer.
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            2. shpuntik
              shpuntik 13 September 2013 14: 56 New
              +5
              BigRiver RU Today, 12:42 PM ↑ New
              Kemerovo coal, when it falls on the Far East, grows in price by 2,5 times.

              Coal delivery at what? We take a specific state district power station for consideration: Bureyskaya and Zeyskaya-selling electric energy to China is a time bomb. To cheap labor + cheap e / energy. This gives rise to profit and production. Accordingly, we are non-competitors. Cheap e / energy is our competitive advantage, and it is not used, on the contrary it is given to competitors, so multiply it by two.
              It often refers to the cost of importing electricity into China. Allegedly, we sell cheaper than laughing in Russia

              By the way, if you own the numbers, please imagine. How much is a kilowatt in Blagoveshchensk and on what side of the Amur? I see nothing funny request .
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                Bigriver
                Bigriver 13 September 2013 15: 40 New
                -1
                Quote: shpuntik

                Coal delivery at what? We take a specific state district power station for consideration: Bureyskaya and Zeyskaya-selling electric energy to China is a time bomb. To cheap labor + cheap e / energy.
                By the way, if you own the numbers, please imagine. How much is a kilowatt in Blagoveshchensk and on what side of the Amur? I see nothing funny request .

                You have a strange logic :))
                First you draw conclusions, and then you beat evidence for them wink
                "Дарить" ничего не готов. Если хотите ЗНАТЬ, значит Вы должны быть в теме.
                I report:
                Wholesale price в "ОЭС Востока" и wholesale export price for China alone - about 1,5 rubles per 1 kW / h. Pay attention to the highlighted in bold!
                As soon as it falls for Cupid, for example, in Haihe, it grows even at the border to 2,5 rubles per 1 kW / h.
                Sinking lower to the south, it grows to 4,5 rubles.
                Вместе с тем, для южных районов Китая работает такая же "лафа" как у нас в Центральном регионе. Стоимость 1 киловатт/час может стоить 1,5 рубля на НАШИ деньги.
                Because of the PEACEFUL ATOM!laughing
                А доставка угля - ОЧЕНЬ причем! Потому-что это - до сих пор определяющий фактор нашей экономики. Спросите об этом машиностроителей на "КнААЗ", "АСЗ", "Дальэнергомаш", т.д.
                Do you think that the triple price for electricity and for materials on the Far East is negligible?
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  1. shpuntik
    shpuntik 13 September 2013 19: 10 New
    +5
    BigRiver RU Today, 15:40 PM ↑ New
    ОЭС Востока" и оптовая экспортная цена для Китая одна - около 1,5 руб за 1 кВт/час. На выделенное жирным обратите внимание!

    Пусть 1,5 руб., но населению продают со 100% маржой, по 3 рубля. Об этом и речь: бардак, кидалово. Выделили участок в виде сбытовой компании и стригут "капусту". Нет госполитики, в тех же ША запрещено повышать стоимость. Потому что все страдают. Из района наводнения люди жаловались, возле Зейской ГРЭС, мол цена для Китая не разглашается, чуть ли не по 60 копеек. Наверное слухи.
    As for Komsolsk did not understand, and the NEA? They take e-energy from the thermal power station, does it work on coal? They didn’t transfer gas from Sakhalin there?
    Speaking of Haihe, it’s opposite Blagoveshchensk, if they sell 2,5 rubles there, how much does it cost in Blagoveshchensk?
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 13 September 2013 17: 31 New
    +4
    Quote: BigRiver
    In Sweden, Finland, ets so dear to you, are there such transfer distances?


    I know that in this country the port director receives less crane operator. That's enough for me
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 13 September 2013 18: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: Vadivak
      Quote: BigRiver
      In Sweden, Finland, ets so dear to you, are there such transfer distances?

      I know that in this country the port director receives less crane operator. That's enough for me

      I know that in MY EDGE (Khabarovsk), port directors receive more crane operators, stevedores and logisticians.
      This to me ... I did not even think that this could be enough for me.
      Why are you talking about this. What is it for?
      Moreover. You are not familiar with the country at all. In Kamchatka, Sakhalin, Yakutia, Norilsk? Did you work?
      You have to be careful. Be careful in communicating with people who live in this country. Careful need to be. With a card, at least check rEgularlywink
      1. Bigriver
        Bigriver 13 September 2013 19: 12 New
        0
        Quote: BigRiver
        ...:

        Such wonderful MINUSES from people who do not know their country.
        Thanks for rating .. myself laughing
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 13 September 2013 20: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: BigRiver
        I did not even think that this could be enough for me.


        And you think sometimes you need to think,
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 13 September 2013 20: 42 New
    +3
    Quote: BigRiver
    In Sweden, Finland, ets so dear to you, are there such transfer distances?


    And what do Finns mine coal? For what he asks them. They have enough of our gas and electricity, then you will study the topic and then refuel through the komsos
  • Sadikoff
    Sadikoff 13 September 2013 13: 46 New
    +2
    The world of capitalism is not only the first world but also the third, therefore, if it’s good somewhere in Sweden, then in Africa it’s not at all. Then we are entering the different phases of development of the capital structure in the West and in Russia, we are faced with the task of creating our own elite, including in a financial sense, otherwise Russian managers bought by the Western elite will manage us. Every poor president, manager will always think, what will happen after the presidency, where to escape from any Meslin, Khodorkovsky-Berezovsky.
  • Botanologist
    Botanologist 13 September 2013 21: 42 New
    0
    Quote: Vadivak
    Why, then, are Europeans spending less on a "communal"?


    They make normal houses there, with insulation by all standards, and even people are trained to save. Save a lot, on everything. Therefore, they pay less - there the light in the kitchen does not light when the owner went to the toilet.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 13 September 2013 22: 21 New
      +7
      Quote: Botanologist
      They make normal houses there, with insulation by all standards, and even people are trained to save. Save a lot, on everything. Therefore, they pay less - there the light in the kitchen does not light when the owner went to the toilet.


      ++++++ !!!

      Купил инфракрасный бинокль, и зимой , в сумерках оглядел дом со всех ракурсов, и сразу увидел, где утечки тепла. Летом утеплил чердак изнутри, перекрыл полы, обшил стены утеплителем. Лампочки, купленные в магазине FixPrice по 37 руб. пара, освещают все второстепенные помещения. Ну и "Газпром", что нац.достояние, никогда не увидит меня в списках своих потребителей - печь, русская.
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 18 September 2013 13: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: Vadivak
    Why, then, do Europeans spend less on a "communal apartment"? - When we talk about all Europeans, we must not forget that we give "average data for the hospital."


    and even shitty solarium with gasoline at a dollar per liter more expensive than in the United States and electricity there, and so all hurt

    This is a question for the government, it manages the whole movement inside the country! It is clear that the current situation with utility bills will not be pleasant to anyone, by the way it is a disgrace. But let's separate the flies from the cutlets. Our president has proved himself on the world stage as a brilliant politician. And for this he has great respect and respect! yes
  • aleshka
    aleshka 13 September 2013 20: 58 New
    0
    so he graduated from the Higher School of KGB and before that Leningrad State University!
  • Tersky
    Tersky 13 September 2013 14: 50 New
    11
    Quote: a52333
    I'll try to hang out (never succeeds) a cat against an ermine roller.

    hi! We will help ..
  • anarh
    anarh 13 September 2013 18: 59 New
    +1
    http://rutube.ru/video/15ada7468e380e5a4a84f91fa78d2e69/ кот и горностай
  • the polar
    the polar 13 September 2013 07: 32 New
    10
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Just what I said in the comments to the previous article.
    They agree with Putin and Russia. Let them not understand, they hate, but agree, and therefore the face of the country is changing, in the eyes of the West.
    And this is without the use of force, mind you ... I would like to believe that Putin has found an approach to the West and will now play on it.

    In an interesting time we live comrades.

    Comrade Putin, as a former communist who has become an avid capitalist, needs to read Marx and Lenin in order to understand once and for all that the financial and economic crisis is an inevitable state of capital economics that can only be resolved by military expansion of spheres of influence, ruining a competitor and gaining access to cheap raw materials .
    Так что призывы к волку больше читать "божье слово" и меньше питаться сырым мясом, навряд ли убедят голодного волка питаться сеном, в связи с недостатком сырого мяса.

    Товарищу Путину надо срочно заняться самообразованием, деприватизацией и укреплением обороны за счет "добровольных пожертвований" от олигархии всех мастей.
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 13 September 2013 08: 14 New
      16
      Quote: Polar
      Так что призывы к волку больше читать "божье слово" и меньше питаться сырым мясом, навряд ли убедят голодного волка питаться сеном, в связи с недостатком сырого мяса.

      "Сила Рима не в мраморе сената, а в песке Колизея". «Завоюй толпу и получишь свободу» действий... Актуально как для Абамы, так и для Путина. Путин энд Команда, действительно выдающихся бойцов, точно поняли тенденцию, самое уязвимое место заморских волков и целенаправленно превентивно бьет по ним, на их территории, мощнейшими "стратегическими ракетами" лишая их поддержки мирового сообщества, "куй железо пока горячо". В данный конкретный момент времени это лучшее оружие.
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 13 September 2013 10: 23 New
      +5
      Очень верные мысли,насчет деприватизации и укрепления обороны за счет "добровольных пожертвований"!!!Очень созвучно моему настрою!И я думаю не только моему!
  • mejik
    mejik 13 September 2013 07: 36 New
    +4
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    In an interesting time we live comrades.
    Damn, I want to live in a calm time, but the exceptional ones will ...
    1. skeptic
      skeptic 13 September 2013 14: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: mejik
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      In an interesting time we live comrades.
      Damn, I want to live in a calm time, but the exceptional ones will ...


      Говорят, самое страшное проклятие, у китайцев: "Что бы ты жил в эпоху перемен". Вот так вот, видимо, СССР прокляли капиталисты Запада. Будем надеяться, что дальнейшая деятельность Путина поможет им захлебнуться, своим же ядом.
  • Fin
    Fin 13 September 2013 09: 36 New
    +2
    И пусть блюют и брызжат слюной наши "партнеры". А если бы он еще сказал кому выгодна эта война и все предыдущие было бы интереснее. Ждем ответного хода,что напечатают наши либерастические СМИ.
  • RussianRu
    RussianRu 13 September 2013 09: 44 New
    +5
    Конечно в интересное время живем. И читаешь их коменты на письмо Путина. Всё больше убеждаешь в американской "исключительности". Во всех коментах видно полнейший их комплекс неполноценности. Они видят какой-то подвох, какую-то не искренность, и т.д. Есть русская-народная поговорка; "Кто чем болен, тот о том и говорит". А вы господа госдеповские такие уж искренние, справедливые, честные? Ваша "исключительность" мешает вам слышать других людей. Не должно быть, что только наше (американское) мнение правильное, а другого мнения не может быть. Не ищите того, чего нет.
  • vyatom
    vyatom 13 September 2013 10: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Just what I said in the comments to the previous article.
    They agree with Putin and Russia. Let them not understand, they hate, but agree, and therefore the face of the country is changing, in the eyes of the West.
    And this is without the use of force, mind you ... I would like to believe that Putin has found an approach to the West and will now play on it.

    In an interesting time we live comrades.


    IIIIIEH. Well said, little devil
  • 222222
    222222 13 September 2013 10: 56 New
    +2
    Vladimir Putin’s good answer to Obama’s meeting with fagots in St. Petersburg ...
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  • vjhbc
    vjhbc 13 September 2013 12: 44 New
    +4
    Russian official’s song
  • Horst78
    Horst78 13 September 2013 13: 07 New
    +1
    In an interesting time we live comrades.
    Not that word smile before our eyes, the world is changing bully
    1. Aryan
      Aryan 13 September 2013 20: 35 New
      +2
      "А теперь давайте посмотрим, какой ответ Обама напечатает и разместит в Интернете в национальных русских СМИ!

      and figure it out if he’s registered here and writes an article or a comment?
      minuser record at least laughing
  • pri3rak
    pri3rak 13 September 2013 13: 51 New
    +1
    Now have to reckon.
  • Bigship
    Bigship 14 September 2013 05: 43 New
    +2
    Comrades! Let us rejoice at the victory of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Putin over the United States and prepare for a vicious and vile answer, which undoubtedly is already hatched in the minds of the political leadership of America.
    Now they will definitely take revenge on Russia, because they believe that they have been humiliated before the whole world.
  • Mr_Kundaus97
    Mr_Kundaus97 15 September 2013 21: 40 New
    +1
    Agree with you. The time is now very interesting ... America takes on too much! I read many articles about the possibility of a US attack on Syria and its attack on other countries. The domestic policy of many countries has absolutely no side to the security of the United States, but the latter say that there is a danger and it must be eliminated. Putin is good for taking the initiative of a peace agreement, and the Syrian president really liked it. And not only him. Most countries support him in this. This, I tell you, is very good. Finally, the influence of the Russian Federation in the world is growing!
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 13 September 2013 07: 09 New
    21
    although I am not an ardent fan of GDP, mainly for his liberal attitude towards the swindler around him, I admit that he will pull his eyes on the amers, and very elegantly ...
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 13 September 2013 07: 09 New
    +9
    hi +++. What can I say, a strong move on the part of the President of Russia and judging by the comments of US citizens (shown on TV), effective! good
  • phase 711
    phase 711 13 September 2013 07: 14 New
    16
    Yes, here Huseynovich blurted out without thinking that we are an exceptional nation, therefore we are exceptional ... Well, well, continue to chew your hay and move your ears, the main thing is to pop out less and kick your hooves. Wild african american mustang pancake ...
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 13 September 2013 07: 44 New
      13
      Quote: Faza 711
      we are an exceptional nation americans, therefore we are exceptional

      The fascist rhetoric of the Most Darkest is not new. One leader who spoke about the exclusivity of the Aryan nation was already remembered, as everyone knows his career ended.
      1. Ljubomir
        Ljubomir 13 September 2013 08: 04 New
        +8
        The fascist rhetoric of the Most Darkest is not new. One leader who spoke about the exclusivity of the Aryan nation was already remembered.

        This is what Putin reproached with, and on time. All of them from all sides have been pecking Abram’s hands and nervously allowing such blunders to be able to retreat to rethink the situation.
    2. Semurg
      Semurg 13 September 2013 08: 58 New
      +9
      Quote: Faza 711
      Yes, here Huseynovich blurted out without thinking that we are an exceptional nation, therefore we are exceptional ... Well, well, continue to chew your hay and move your ears, the main thing is to pop out less and kick your hooves. Wild african american mustang pancake ...

      The point about different countries and peoples (great and small, who have built and have just begun to build) needs to be read very carefully by Russians, this is said by your president and this applies equally to both Americans and Russians who do not want to see equal and full-fledged neighbors partners (often in topics Russian asked me a question do I really understand that it is not possible to build equal relations between Great Russia and Small Kazakhstan) Your president was responsible for me.
      1. alone
        alone 13 September 2013 20: 30 New
        +3
        Sagat! definitely no comment, you +
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 13 September 2013 20: 58 New
          +4
          Quote: lonely
          Sagat! definitely no comment, you +


          There will always be narrow-minded and provocateurs on both sides.
    3. eplewke
      eplewke 13 September 2013 09: 08 New
      +2
      Roofing material he, not a mustang. He came from Africa from a poor country, his brother is generally a local rapist.
    4. 31231
      31231 13 September 2013 09: 20 New
      +2
      Rather, he is a zebra. Black or white.
  • FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 13 September 2013 07: 18 New
    +5
    ВВП сильно написал. Думаю, елси бы он родился в свое время в сша после статьи были бы все шансы стать 45-м президентом от "единой америки".
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 13 September 2013 10: 36 New
      10
      Quote: FC Skif
      ВВП сильно написал. Думаю, елси бы он родился в свое время в сша после статьи были бы все шансы стать 45-м президентом от "единой америки".


      Obama was also not born in the states. So that the GDP still has a chance - pre-election posters in European capitals are already hanging laughing
  • My address
    My address 13 September 2013 07: 21 New
    16
    Very strong move.
    Why doesn't it do this inside the country? As if the other person.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 13 September 2013 17: 25 New
      +4
      Quote: My address
      Why doesn’t this be done domestically?
      Because the purpose of the actions of any organized crime group is to bite off pieces from the spheres of influence of other organized crime groups and to protect their spheres of influence.

      The well-being of milking suckers existing in territories controlled by organized criminal groups is not the goal of organized crime groups.
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 13 September 2013 18: 47 New
      0
      Quote: My address
      Why doesn’t this be done domestically?

      Emu was asked this question ....
      Его спросил владелец сайта "сделано у нас".. почему наши СМИ молчат про наши достижения, почему правительство н7е уделяет этому вопросу усиленное внимание....
      In general, the GDP responded that - if the State and the Government begin to support resources and the media in covering such events .. then all sorts of white-tape hamsters at all angles will start to yell-This is all the Kremlin’s propaganda !!!

      In general .. let the swamp hamsters starve for information hunger.
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 18 September 2013 14: 15 New
      0
      Quote: My address
      Very strong move.
      Why doesn't it do this inside the country? As if the other person.

      Inside the strona is another situation requiring a careful balanced approach without sudden movements, peace and stability is the key to the uniform progressive development of the country and society. Enough of the revolutions and rubilov from our shoulder, this only weakens the country. But the FSB and other competent authorities do not stop working. And then, one must not forget that the economic and political activities of the country are directly under the jurisdiction of the prime minister and the government! The separation of powers has not been canceled by anyone ..
  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 13 September 2013 07: 21 New
    10
    from the Don.
    The GDP again surprised Bambamka and his entourage! Although only 15 percent of Americans read newspapers, circles from the article will go! The gloss is slowly disappearing from the USA!
    1. a52333
      a52333 13 September 2013 07: 58 New
      +4
      This newspaper will have a different circulation, I think so.
      1. eplewke
        eplewke 13 September 2013 09: 10 New
        +9
        This article is already on the internet on all blogs dazzling ... So that's normal, it will reach the reader ...
    2. Bigriver
      Bigriver 13 September 2013 08: 23 New
      14
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      ... Although only 15 percent of Americans read newspapers, circles from the article will go! ...

      There is a nuance.
      Газета "Нью-Йорк Таймс" - это, пожалуй, наиболее массовая, качественная газета США, ориентированная на аудиторию принимающих решение (предприниматели, бизнесмены, банкиры, политики). Т.е., это не массовое издание для развлечения широкой публики.
      The newspaper is one of the characters of respectable America and carefully weighs its analytics.
      So, GDP has got where it should smile
      1. borisjdin1957
        borisjdin1957 13 September 2013 09: 20 New
        +4
        from the Don.
        Yes, I have no doubt. Everything was thought out! The GDP made a magnificent move! No wonder the kardonnas wondered what an unpredictable step Russia would take!
        By the way. For reviews of amer readers see.http: //politikus.ru/events/6440-ryadovye-amerikancy-o-state-vladimi
        ra-putina-v-new-york-times.html
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 13 September 2013 10: 34 New
          +6
          Yes, Putin has advisers on foreign policy, what’s needed! And what’s on the domestic one? Traitor thieves are free, people are indignant, and the authorities aren’t blowing !!! When will order be restored in the country?
  • russkymir
    russkymir 13 September 2013 07: 22 New
    +7
    The United States made a lot of mistakes, being the only superpower in the world, but can you imagine Russia in this role?


    - Here is an example of their exclusivity. Give wishful thinking and do not see the obvious.
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 13 September 2013 07: 24 New
    +2
    Think America

    apparently nothing
  • MolGro
    MolGro 13 September 2013 07: 25 New
    +8
    Very nice move !!!
    After the speech of the niger, he did not let the State Department propaganda machine turn around !!
    And his letter overshadowed the entire performance of the leader of the popuas !!
    1. eplewke
      eplewke 13 September 2013 09: 11 New
      +7
      Obama certainly did not expect such a move from GDP. Probably right now crying to his wife’s waistcoat. And curses the day when he became a rival to Vovka ... laughing
  • vadson
    vadson 13 September 2013 07: 32 New
    18
    the article is designed for Americans to press on Congress and Obama, a good move and a slap to the shed
    1. JonnyT
      JonnyT 13 September 2013 11: 28 New
      +5
      exactly!
      ВВП Осложнят жизнь "упырям кровопийцам".
      The only way out of the crisis in Syria is a change of leadership in the United States, tobish revolution .....
      And Putin is doing the right thing to discredit the leadership of the United States in the eyes of his people, they say look at what stupid ghouls are in power in your country! We have become better at informing. war !!!!

      The US authorities wanted to spit on the opinion of their people, they only care about the opinion of the local oligarchy .... well, what did you want-it is such a democracy, only the rich have the right to choose and freedom ....
  • andruha70
    andruha70 13 September 2013 07: 50 New
    +8
    информационная война : сводка с полей сражений : наши войска нанесли сокрушительное поражение врагу в битве при «Нью-Йорк Таймс» используя тактику "американская исключительность" soldier how all of them were hooked and distorted, with disagreement with their exclusivity. American comments surprised, there are still sane people.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 13 September 2013 07: 53 New
    14
    World chess tournament continues ..! Putin calculated everything correctly and hit precisely. But before, he had been silently meaningfully silent on all the attacks of the West, and now the moment has come and strikes me very strikingly! I'm not a fan of Putin, but he amazes me more and more
    1. Ljubomir
      Ljubomir 13 September 2013 08: 14 New
      +5
      But before, he was significantly silent on all attacks of the West

      They are always so strong on a counterattack. As a wrestler waited for an opponent’s mistake and .. while he made a capture. We will wait for the cut.
      1. eplewke
        eplewke 13 September 2013 09: 17 New
        +5
        In politics, no equal to him right now. I can’t imagine that under Yeltsin the mugs fled for Russia like that ... Putin has no alternative yet !!! It is a fact! And even Putin’s opponents must understand this ...
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 13 September 2013 17: 32 New
          -3
          Quote: eplewke
          There is no alternative to Putin yet !!!
          Nude nude ...

          And most importantly - the level of argumentation is simply amazing ...
        2. Ljubomir
          Ljubomir 13 September 2013 22: 40 New
          +1
          There are no alternatives to Putin yet!

          There is. Nationally-oriented Lukashenko.
          1. michajlo
            michajlo 14 September 2013 00: 21 New
            +1
            Good evening, dear Lyubomyr!

            With your choice of a worthy candidate, I completely agree. good
            В любом случае Путин хорошо смотрится в сравнении с ЕБН или ДАМ, но против Лукашенко, тут ему и "черный пояс" не поможет.
            Кроме того со временем наверное появятся и новые люди, истинные патриоты Родины а не "ловэ".

            In any case, there are no hopeless situations in life!
            1. Ljubomir
              Ljubomir 14 September 2013 06: 49 New
              +2
              Hello hi
              Putin looks good compared to EBN or DAM

              Unfortunately, this is all the head of one liberal capitalist. hydra.
  • nemec55
    nemec55 13 September 2013 08: 01 New
    +1
    Freelance correspondent of the New York Times newspaper. recourse
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 13 September 2013 10: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: nemec55
      Freelance correspondent of the New York Times newspaper


      And what about the fee? wassat
  • Dima190579
    Dima190579 13 September 2013 08: 16 New
    +1
    Judo fighter in politics.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 13 September 2013 15: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: Dima190579
      Judo fighter in politics.


      Full ippon!
  • left-wing
    left-wing 13 September 2013 08: 23 New
    13
    In general, Putin’s tactical moves amaze, there are very few such politicians. If you still manage to unravel this crazy Syrian tangle, then Putin will bring Russia to an unprecedented level
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 13 September 2013 10: 34 New
      +5
      "выведет Россию на небывалый уровень"

      Хотелось бы. В мировой политике на дипломатическом уровне Россия сейчас, бесспорно, рулит. Только что-то сокращения рабочих мест в России продолжаются тихой сапой. То в РЖД, то в аптечной сфере (знаю не по-наслышке). Великая комсомольская стройка "Сочи" завершается, о Силиконовой долине "Сколково" уже тишина, заворовавшиеся чинуши от МО меняют должности, другие томятся в застенках собственных дoxренакомнатных квартир (хвойный воздух с топором в руках где-нибудь в Мордовии, видимо, для мелких рыбёшек). Да и повышения тарифов и стоимости энергоносителей наводят на нехорошие размышления, мы ж не импортируем их и не везём на танкерах через моря-окияны. Было бы нелишним в добавок к успехам во внешней политике продемонстрировать успехи во внутренней политике.
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 13 September 2013 10: 59 New
        +3
        Quote: Black Colonel
        "выведет Россию на небывалый уровень"

        Хотелось бы. В мировой политике на дипломатическом уровне Россия сейчас, бесспорно, рулит. Только что-то сокращения рабочих мест в России продолжаются тихой сапой. То в РЖД, то в аптечной сфере (знаю не по-наслышке). Великая комсомольская стройка "Сочи" завершается, о Силиконовой долине "Сколково" уже тишина, заворовавшиеся чинуши от МО меняют должности, другие томятся в застенках собственных дoxренакомнатных квартир (хвойный воздух с топором в руках где-нибудь в Мордовии, видимо, для мелких рыбёшек). Да и повышения тарифов и стоимости энергоносителей наводят на нехорошие размышления, мы ж не импортируем их и не везём на танкерах через моря-окияны. Было бы нелишним в добавок к успехам во внешней политике продемонстрировать успехи во внутренней политике.

        With Peter1, it’s like that is when the voice of Russia sounds weighty in world politics, but not everything is good inside, probably such a trend will remain for 200-300 years, and it’s a pity that Russia has everything for its citizens to live well in their own country.
      2. Scoun
        Scoun 13 September 2013 19: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: Black Colonel
        I would like to. In world politics at the diplomatic level, Russia now undoubtedly rules. Only

        And that’s the whole thing .. you have to start at the world level first to steer .. then push your rats already ... and now you will touch the throne of Novodvorskaya ... the whole west will squeal .. what kind of Russians are bad .. plant a pocket American / western / pocket businessman. .. they generally come out in a ram ... about how the bloody regime of an honest person offends. )))
        1. alone
          alone 13 September 2013 20: 34 New
          +3
          laughing Do you think all the well-being and normal living conditions for the people of Russia depend only on whether the Novodvorskaya is sitting in the prison or not? is not great honor?
  • Predator-74
    Predator-74 13 September 2013 08: 24 New
    +2
    Наверно после того как Обама увидел реакцию внутри страны на свою внешнюю политику последнего времени он своей загорелой рукой почесал черепную коробку, не обремененную интеллектом и сказал "Да, наделал я делов, как все это разгребать?"
  • Igarr
    Igarr 13 September 2013 08: 47 New
    14
    Hi guys ..
    You, frankly, are .... like French academics in an ivory tower.
    I will not hide the last foreign policy actions of our leadership to my liking.
    Replaying the West.
    Although, this is not even a middlegame. A protracted debut for decades.
    And Putin’s letter to the Americans is also a good move.
    ..
    BUT. BUT.
    ..
    Imagine. Comes to you at work (in the family, in the company ... pick up the right one) - your competitor. Sometimes an enemy. Sometimes - so-so, even a partner, at times.
    And begins to teach you how to live. How to cook soup for your wife. How to conduct coitus. Sometimes he says - you are doing everything wrong, because you are too ... thinking about yourself. But in reality - you are nobody, and there is no way to call you.
    And this is also taking into account our mentality.
    Russian.
    We are used to poking our faces in the mud. Therefore, such an appeal .. - we will not be offended. We can give it in the face if we get it. But in general - we will remain calm.
    Americans were brought up and are brought up not so.
    From childhood, they believe in their own personal exclusivity.
    They are used to the fact that the USA is the number 1 in the world. And, accordingly, they - too - are numbered uno.
    And here, the cunning, terrible, bloodthirsty communist, the secret KGB player, and the President of Russia - poke his nose, as they do - cool, businesslike, infallible ... shit.
    They just got used to the fact that all of Russia is in their banks. That all Russian husks are in Miami.
    And here - on you. They are wrong.
    .
    Selection of quotes - does not convince. One there is clearly knocked out of the stream.
    .
    Actually, what am I talking about.
    This letter warms our souls. Successes in foreign policy - like.
    And now - let's wait - for surprises.
    God forbid that I was mistaken.
    1. a52333
      a52333 13 September 2013 09: 09 New
      +5
      Quote: Igarr
      And now - let's wait - for surprises.
      God forbid that I was mistaken.
      Понятно, что перед Бараном стоит однозначна задача. Сирия. Но выполнить эту задачу все труднее. На момент "принятия решения" он встал в позиции - "ой, у меня что-то в памперсе". В этот момент стратегическая инициатива была перехвачена. Разнообразные и непредсказуемые атаки не дают бардаку подготовить общественное мнение, создать мало-мальскую "легитимность"
    2. Eugeniy_369
      Eugeniy_369 13 September 2013 09: 44 New
      +4
      Quote: Igarr
      Actually, what am I talking about.
      This letter warms our souls. Successes in foreign policy - like.
      And now - let's wait - for surprises.
      God forbid that I was mistaken.

      More precisely and you will not tell.
    3. Bigriver
      Bigriver 13 September 2013 14: 24 New
      +3
      Quote: Igarr

      Americans were brought up and are brought up not so.
      From childhood, they believe in their own personal exclusivity.
      They are used to the fact that the USA is number 1 in the world ...

      It is so!
      Only .., the Russian people over the past 100 years, has come a long way from imperial Russian consciousness to the socialist. From him to the individually democratic. And from the extreme, again to the roots, IMHO. To the Russian-imperial consciousness. Here is a cycle for some 100 years.
      If the American people are not able to accept reality - so much the worse for him. So he does not have vitality.
  • morpogr
    morpogr 13 September 2013 08: 58 New
    +4
    Putin wrote an instructive article for Americans, take a look and think why more and more people and countries dislike you and hate your exceptionalism sideways to you.
  • Kiliny
    Kiliny 13 September 2013 08: 58 New
    +4
    One can be proud of our president! For a long time we did not have such a leader! In foreign policy, there simply is NO equal to him!
  • maxcor1974
    maxcor1974 13 September 2013 08: 59 New
    +4
    Hawks are massively sick with rage. For the first time in many years, screwed up in an information war. I won’t be surprised if McCain will soon, following the example of his foster mother Mishiko, take on ties. It looks like a gag reflex will lower him.
  • Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 13 September 2013 09: 03 New
    +5
    He passes the baton of world leadership to Mr. Putin. Think America. ”


    for now - moral leadership, but still. GDP is my respect. He showed them how to conduct long-term operations. And apparently - this is not the end of the lessons.
  • NKVD
    NKVD 13 September 2013 09: 11 New
    +3
    The wisest article, as well as the solution to the Syrian problem. May God grant our minds to find and make smart decisions in the future.
  • klavyr
    klavyr 13 September 2013 09: 31 New
    +4
    All the long-standing achievements of Western propaganda down the drain! Ah yes Putin!
  • Max otto
    Max otto 13 September 2013 09: 33 New
    +6
    If I’m not mistaken, then no one has done so, in fact, with what fright does the president of another country turn to strangers? Unexpectedly, incomprehensibly, we can conclude that talking with the official side is useless, and why the US? It turns out that in Europe there is no longer a people that can be addressed, Europe has died.
    In fact, we live in an interesting time, a protectorate of Russia in the USA? That sounds good.
    1. wax
      wax 13 September 2013 11: 10 New
      +4
      Appealed. Andropov. Only he also held material arguments in the form of a strong economy and powerful weapons. Putin has no such arguments - all the more impressive is his success in the diplomatic field. And could Medvedev have built such a line of behavior in Libya. He then lost the game on the first move.
      1. Max otto
        Max otto 13 September 2013 11: 39 New
        +2
        If you write that Putin has no significant arguments, and he knocked them down, then with the arguments, I suppose, he would have crushed them altogether. And in a couple of countries, leadership would change. Did I understand you correctly? hi
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 13 September 2013 13: 00 New
          +5
          Quote: Max Otto
          with arguments, I suppose, he would have trampled them all. And in a couple of countries the leadership would change


          Not yet evening, not yet evening ...
  • darksoul
    darksoul 13 September 2013 09: 34 New
    +4
    A small victory in the information war, it was possible to convey an undistorted message to the Americans, and people react quite adequately, agree ..... a kind of information blow to Obama on the head
  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 13 September 2013 09: 43 New
    +6
    Quote: Igarr
    This letter warms our souls. Successes in foreign policy - like.

    Ну да! Особенно после вчерашней пресс-конференции по Сирии, которая напомнила миниатюру из жизни студентов, в стиле Хазанова, где профессор (Лавров - стоящий как Кремлевская стена) пытается понять ответ студента (Керри - жистикулирующего и ищущего поддержки в аудитории). Студент, отвечая на вопрос "О технологии производства труб", рассказывает о том, что труба служит для того, чтобы в один конец вода втекала, а с другого конца вытекала. Благо, что у профессора есть право вовремя остановить бред студента, что мы и увидали в исполнении Лаврова.
    Bravo and respect to Vladimir Putin and Russian diplomacy in the person of Sergey Lavrov!
  • King
    King 13 September 2013 09: 43 New
    0
    Putin, handsome, as always, said everything correctly. wiped Obama’s nose on his own field. In September, Putin is on the run - the G20 summit, a chemical weapons initiative, and here's an article in the NY Times, which is still the middle of the month. All Putin does with Obama is beating a baby.
  • denson06
    denson06 13 September 2013 09: 52 New
    +3
    ... We are all different, but when we ask for blessings from the Lord, we must not forget that God created us equal ”

    Ох как они любят эти вещи в америке.. вот именно такие обороты влияют на них как появление сыра для Рокки из мультфильма "Чип и Дейл".. lol
    The last paragraph is beautiful .. and most importantly, even if someone blunders, which is not sincere, then to argue with its meaning in America brought up on this subject - it certainly will not work even in the CIA pumped up press .. lol
    Soulful man is our GDP .. lol my Respect to him .. hi
  • 787nkx
    787nkx 13 September 2013 09: 55 New
    +3
    I think history will remember GDP as the greatest world politics of our time.
    I wish his star would not leave the sky for as long as possible.
  • Yura
    Yura 13 September 2013 10: 00 New
    +5
    "Вначале было слово", потом всё остальное, теперь я знаю зачем голосовал за Путина и понимаю что был прав.
  • It's me
    It's me 13 September 2013 10: 13 New
    +9
    "What a brilliant letter. Most likely, it is not written by Putin personally, but still very strong."
    https://www.facebook.com/spongeboblegendpants/posts/10153229312370257

    “Putin urges the United States not to launch a military strike on Syria, arguing that“ military intervention in the internal conflicts of other states is becoming commonplace for the United States. ”Sadly, this is complete truth.”
    https://www.facebook.com/dylan.feldman.925/posts/10152202087359517

    "It's cool that an essay in 2013 could be such great news. Not an tweet, but an essay. Good job, Putin."
    https://www.facebook.com/thomas.bright.378537/posts/163945803799884

    “It's funny that Putin is seeking more peace talks than the so-called leaders of the free world. Does anyone remember the“ Left ”claims to“ cowboy diplomacy ”?
    https://www.facebook.com/griffithbk/posts/636347893071444

    "Putin is so passively aggressive. Well, at least not as spineless as Obama."
    https://www.facebook.com/oscar.delgado.7106670/posts/546710092068571

    "Putin looks like a good guy, and our president looks like a fool!"
    https://www.facebook.com/tearoy.simmons/posts/10201329958203437

    "It's funny to understand that Putin is doing more to protect America than our own government. I take off my hat to you, Putin."
    https://www.facebook.com/adam.sierz/posts/10201931408590264

    "That's how Putin put an end to the Obama war. Putin, who is a former KGB officer, stopped the Nobel Peace Prize winner from starting a war in which thousands would die. It's a funny story, isn't it."
    https://www.facebook.com/joshua.tackett.7798/posts/10201912807412859

    "Wow. The more I read and hear about Putin, the more I am impressed."
    https://www.facebook.com/joyce.harris.35/posts/10201096769838636

    "Vladimir Putin showed himself to be the leader of the free world and the defender of the rule of law. Barack Obama has shown himself to be the leader of a lawless, unscrupulous criminal government that tortures lies through his teeth and builds schemes to destroy millions of people."
    https://www.facebook.com/john.sutherland.549/posts/10201482930211695

    "Something is very wrong in that I have to take one side on the issue against the US president. While reading this article I kept in mind Putin’s actions in Georgia in 2008 (which proves that he himself is not a saint in matters of international diplomacy), everything he wrote in this article is pure truth. "
    https://www.facebook.com/caleb.covington.583/posts/698532480161780

    "Please read and spread! You may think about Putin as you please, but read what he says in his open letter to the Americans."
    https://www.facebook.com/hanuman108/posts/10151852321829323

    “While Putin’s doubts about gays to me, Russia is protecting Snowden and is now settling the issue with Syria ... I’m struck by the new identity of Russia that is now emerging. My children at school talk about Russia like a cold war in the yard. All they know is Hollywood and James Bond. "
    https://www.facebook.com/busytown/posts/10151883728552904

    "This is the week when Putin has a higher approval rating than Obama."
    https://www.facebook.com/bmmayer/posts/10200985225927953

    "Hmm, you know who I really believe? A guy with pure intentions and a clear understanding of morality. Anyone who really cares about the welfare of the States. Vladimir Putin!"
    https://www.facebook.com/stephen.witmer.1/posts/628494002561
  • shkil2010
    shkil2010 13 September 2013 10: 17 New
    +1
    Цитата: Иван Павлов
    да во времена СССР над такой политической "победой" просто посмеялись бы

    In the days of the USSR, the United States would not dare to start a single war. And now ?
    1. Led1989
      Led1989 13 September 2013 13: 12 New
      +1
      Offhand, Korea, Vietnam. They dared to untie themselves.
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 14 September 2013 17: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Led1989
        Offhand, Korea, Vietnam. They dared to untie themselves.

        The Yankees did not attack Korea and Vietnam, they supported one of the parties in the civil war. In Korea, even with UN approval.
        The forces of the parties were almost equal and USA intervention could give preponderance to the capitalist regimes if there were no USSR.
  • niksup
    niksup 13 September 2013 10: 19 New
    +2
    Good consistent policy. Hopefully it will bear fruit.
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 13 September 2013 10: 21 New
    0
    Return_SSSR (3) SU
    America - Emerald city laughing Which emerald only if you look through the green glasses))))

    ... так вот их бАнаНыч вместе с правительством сЫшЫа, усердно пытаются напялить эти "очки" всем народам планеты, что бы оправдать свою агрессию, под благовидным предлогом...
    Думаю, после публикации обращения Путина к американскому народу, бАрДак бАнаНыч весь, как его "очки" позеленел.
  • Alex66
    Alex66 13 September 2013 10: 24 New
    +6
    Quote: My address
    Very strong move.
    Why doesn't it do this inside the country? As if the other person.

    So I don’t understand, because he has a (GDP) brain fact, why is it that only our government communicates wisely with the West, but we still have miserable crumbs.

    Амеры мне напомнили развитую цивилизацию их фильма "Кин Дза Дза", которых скрипач спросил "вы тут самые умные, вам это кто-то сказал или вы сами догадались", похоже, что Путин спросил Амеров, кто им сказал что они самые умные.
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 13 September 2013 10: 24 New
    +8
    Don Malloni, San Francisco:
    “That which is so well founded is not necessarily sincere - that is the question. It may well be that the goal of Putin’s publication is to maximize Russia's current influence. Another goal is to apply the maximum possible pressure on our political class. We must take into account the tricks with which Russia will maintain a strategic advantage. The United States has made many mistakes, being the only superpower in the world, but can you imagine Russia in this role? ”


    Like this...
    Citizens of the Amyrkan Empire are no longer entering, it is already rooted in the minds of many of them that there is only one superpower in the world, and only a mattress. And now love them and break your hat? wassat
  • chushoj
    chushoj 13 September 2013 10: 28 New
    +4
    The last attempts to excite the American mass, in order to delay at least another day.
    How expensive these days are.
  • mirag2
    mirag2 13 September 2013 10: 44 New
    +1
    Therefore, they will not allow to unravel this Syrian tangle, so as not to allow Putin to become popular again (and not only here, but also in the world).
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 13 September 2013 10: 59 New
    +5
    Quote: mirag2
    Therefore, they will not allow to unravel this Syrian tangle, so as not to allow Putin to become popular again (and not only here, but also in the world).

    That's the whole trick that the states are trapped in, any move is in our favor! Beautifully done! I am sure this is not a Putin merit, the team is working.
  • Ossetian.
    Ossetian. 13 September 2013 11: 12 New
    +7
    Glory to Russia!!!
  • Zeus
    Zeus 13 September 2013 11: 23 New
    +2
    Поведение мендеза и маккейна ассоциируется у меня с поведением гопников на улице. Им что ни говори, они только оскорбления в ответ. С такими можно "общаться" только с помощью кулака в зубы. Интересно, насколько еще в омериге сильна здравая мысль.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 September 2013 11: 25 New
    +2
    Vladimir Putin believes that Russian and American society are not communicating well enough, and therefore he undertook to clarify through Russia's influential newspaper the position of Russia - on the Syrian issue in particular and on issues of war and peace in general.


    All this is good, and the article is good, and on time. But will she come to the mind of an average amer? It is painful that they all either know nothing or do not want to know, but the feeling is created that they (the mericatos) live somewhere on the far side of the moon.
    Or have they been so blinded that they can't see beyond their nose?
  • Armata
    Armata 13 September 2013 11: 26 New
    +5
    Yes Yes. Would you read the forums for mattress padding. There is generally the exact opposite. On the forum of patriots, America writes that we are all villains, the Arabs are the main enemies of the pistoras, in Iraq you just need to make genocide for every killed dance or gay player (for 1 by 100000), ED and a lot of funny things. Take a look if interested http://patriotaction.net/forum
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 13 September 2013 12: 07 New
      +1
      I agree.
      I understand it with my mind, no.
    2. Bigriver
      Bigriver 13 September 2013 13: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: Mechanic
      ... Would you read the forums for mattress padding. There in general ...

      No forum reflects anything. Unfortunately, ours too crying
      Reflects statistics and sociology. Here for them, and forums (also) and work laughing
      We’ll work, wait ...
      We, especially, have nowhere to rush. Time works for us and against the USA.
  • individual
    individual 13 September 2013 11: 39 New
    +3
    The publication in the New York Times of our president’s appeal to the American people speaks of the demand for our policy, our vision of problems in American society.
    After all, the words of President V. Putin are said by Russia and it is worth a lot.
    They publish, it means they read, so we can influence US policy. Previously, we did not have to talk about this. And this is an ideological breakthrough into foreign territory.
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 13 September 2013 14: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: individ
      Publication in the New York Times of our president’s appeal to the American people speaks of the demand for our policy, our vision of problems in American society.

      By the way, yes!
      Good point hi
      There is a fresh breeze in the sensation of a political and ideological impasse. It played to the place.
  • Neo1982
    Neo1982 13 September 2013 11: 40 New
    +1
    Gentlemen, you are witnesses to the greatest historical events - the collapse of the unipolar world led by the United States, and the formation of a multipolar world.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 13 September 2013 13: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: Neo1982
      Gentlemen you are

      Comrades are also .... smile
  • Bekzat
    Bekzat 13 September 2013 11: 45 New
    +1
    Unambiguously, the article plus, Putin + 100500, wipes Obama’s nose and writes a letter, like in chess, put a check, not knowing what account, 3 or 4, Obama will bring to the conclusion that soon, Putin will put him finally the final MAT !!!
  • wax
    wax 13 September 2013 11: 51 New
    +1
    Direct policy is the best policy. Principle policy is the most practical policy.

    Lenin, PSS, 5th ed., Vol. 14, p. 300
  • zmey_gadukin
    zmey_gadukin 13 September 2013 11: 52 New
    +1
    The article is good. + Americans comments.
  • Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 13 September 2013 12: 03 New
    +1
    Nobody wants, writes V. Putin further, that the United Nations befall the fate of the League of Nations. But such an outcome is possible - in the event that powerful countries bypass the United Nations and start military actions without the sanction of the Security Council.

    Do not forget that the credibility of the UN, like all international law, rests only on a balance of power. The USA, after the collapse of the USSR, is the most powerful military force. Therefore, they can afford not to look back on the law. This article by Putin is certainly the right move, but chatter is not enough. And Putin's finance minister is demanding a reduction in military spending. At that time !!! Now, on the contrary, we need to look for opportunities to strengthen the Armed Forces! And the strengthening of our Army will strengthen international law, the authority of the UN, and world peace.